Re: Wallstreet start up
James Sanderson said: What would keep a WS from starting up with a fully charged battery? The battery indicates that it is fully charged. The computer starts up just fine with the adaptor connected. When the computer is on the indicator says that the battery is fully charged. I have started the computer with the battery only before. The PMU has been replaced; I know it works cause before I replaced it this battery that I have was discharged. The charging unit (or whatever it's called) is also new to the computer. Suggestions please? Unfortunately I have none, but I can share identical experiences with a WS II/PDQ that I used to own. It wouldn't startup unless it had the powercord plugged into the wall. Then it could stay up for 2 and half hours or so. On the other hand it could be moved with no or empty battery in to another outlet or let me change to a fresh battery, even in the same bay, while in sleep. I suppose something in the battery charge is too little to be able to handle an increased request of power during the startup or there could be a hardware setting somewhere that prevents startup without a powercord plugged in. But I wouldn't count on that. Maybe others have better suggestions. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet start up
What would keep a WS from starting up with a fully charged battery? The battery indicates that it is fully charged. The computer starts up just fine with the adaptor connected. When the computer is on the indicator says that the battery is fully charged. I have started the computer with the battery only before. The PMU has been replaced; I know it works cause before I replaced it this battery that I have was discharged. The charging unit (or whatever it's called) is also new to the computer. Suggestions please? J Sanderson A. M. G. D. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up
How old is the battery? If you start the computer up, then pull the power cable out, does it stay on? Sometimes old batteries get confused about their charge status, and say they're full when they are in fact holding no charge at all. Cheers, Ben On 28 Jan 2005, at 14:06, James Sanderson wrote: What would keep a WS from starting up with a fully charged battery? The battery indicates that it is fully charged. The computer starts up just fine with the adaptor connected. When the computer is on the indicator says that the battery is fully charged. I have started the computer with the battery only before. The PMU has been replaced; I know it works cause before I replaced it this battery that I have was discharged. The charging unit (or whatever it's called) is also new to the computer. Suggestions please? J Sanderson A. M. G. D. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up
On 27 Jan 2005, at 21:38, Ben Dyer wrote: How old is the battery? If you start the computer up, then pull the power cable out, does it stay on? Sometimes old batteries get confused about their charge status, and say they're full when they are in fact holding no charge at all. Cheers, Ben I don't know the age of the battery. I can disconnect it from the adapter and it stays on and gives my a full run of 3+ hours. I've done this several (3-4) times since I've gotten this computer. Ta Jim A. M. G. D. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Start-Up Problem
I am 95% sure the Diagnostic Disk was not included, where can this be had? Wayne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet Start-Up Problem
I want to see if anyone can shed some light on the problems I have been having with my Powerbook: Powerbook Wallstreet, upgraded with Powerlogix 466, 256 Ram, IBM 20gig hd, Running system 9.1 Problem: After the system has been shut down overnight, the Powerbook will have several start up problems including bombs with various errors such as bus error, illegal instruction, etc. and freezes. It takes several forced re-starts but it eventually goes through and makes it to the end. Once a successful start-up is done, it runs all day fine without any problems. So far, I have re-installed the system software twice (I was running OSX, but removed it thinking the problem was in there), checked everything that was possible with Techtool Pro, tried with extensions off, without any peripherals connected, without battery or cd in bays, zapped the PRAM, all to no avail. I saw about resetting the Open Firmware command and tried this also. I was not able to bring up the screen using the key command, using System Disk utility from Apple, I can check the command manually and hold the keys down to bring up the screen, but then it will not allow any typing to give commands (frozen?). I have seen some feeds referring to the PMU unit as a possible culprit. I think the back up battery is also history (it is a few years old now), does anyone have any ideas or had similar problems that can give some insight? And, is there anyway of checking boards such as the PMU outside of shipping the system off to a service center? I appreciate any help, thanks. Wayne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Start-Up Problem
My wallstreet was pulled from the dumpster, not able to startup. FN CTL SHIFT Power cycling would bring it up after a while. I assumed it to be a bad Backup battery or PMU. I replace the PMU (it came to me before the battery) and all has been swell since. Most of the symptoms below were experienced by me. I found my PMU on ebay from a pull a part guy. Peace On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Wayne wrote: I want to see if anyone can shed some light on the problems I have been having with my Powerbook: Powerbook Wallstreet, upgraded with Powerlogix 466, 256 Ram, IBM 20gig hd, Running system 9.1 Problem: After the system has been shut down overnight, the Powerbook will have several start up problems including bombs with various errors such as bus error, illegal instruction, etc. and freezes. It takes several forced re-starts but it eventually goes through and makes it to the end. Once a successful start-up is done, it runs all day fine without any problems. So far, I have re-installed the system software twice (I was running OSX, but removed it thinking the problem was in there), checked everything that was possible with Techtool Pro, tried with extensions off, without any peripherals connected, without battery or cd in bays, zapped the PRAM, all to no avail. I saw about resetting the Open Firmware command and tried this also. I was not able to bring up the screen using the key command, using System Disk utility from Apple, I can check the command manually and hold the keys down to bring up the screen, but then it will not allow any typing to give commands (frozen?). I have seen some feeds referring to the PMU unit as a possible culprit. I think the back up battery is also history (it is a few years old now), does anyone have any ideas or had similar problems that can give some insight? And, is there anyway of checking boards such as the PMU outside of shipping the system off to a service center? I appreciate any help, thanks. Wayne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Start-Up Problem
On 8/4/03 4:43 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (edited for length): Powerbook Wallstreet, upgraded with Powerlogix 466, 256 Ram, IBM 20gig hd, Running system 9.1 Problem: After the system has been shut down overnight, the Powerbook will have several start up problems including bombs with various errors such as bus error, illegal instruction, etc. and freezes. It takes several forced re-starts but it eventually goes through and makes it to the end. Once a successful start-up is done, it runs all day fine without any problems. I realize that OS 9 is much more forgiving of RAM than X but have you tried taking out any additional RAM? I don't know if that model shipped with the Apple Hardware Diagnostic disk. If it did, you might try that. Meg -- PowerBook 12-inch 10.2.6 640 MB RAM iChat: megsaint -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
MEEP! Andrew Johnson wrote: Since this is an old world machine, the os 9 loader begins and loads the software that boots os x. Just out of curiosity, when did this old world to new world (great terms, by the way) transition happen? I'm still getting used to my first Mac (an iBook 800), and originally made the jump from PCs after getting sick of the increasing reliance of every user on service techs, product-activation phone lines, etc., and I'm still getting used to the idea that you can't necessarily build a Mac from scratch without a hell of a lot of experience with its hardware and software. -me __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 08:12 AM, Taylor McLaren wrote: Just out of curiosity, when did this old world to new world (great terms, by the way) transition happen? I'm still getting used to my first Mac (an iBook 800), and originally made the jump from PCs after getting sick of the increasing reliance of every user on service techs, product-activation phone lines, etc., and I'm still getting used to the idea that you can't necessarily build a Mac from scratch without a hell of a lot of experience with its hardware and software. Apparently the Lombard was the first New World architecture (4MB ROM in RAM) according to LEM. -Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet start up problem (BIG!)
I am having a problem with my Wallstreet. When I start it up. It goes thru all the normal stuff. Gray screen with apple and then when it goes to the OS X start up screen where you see what is loading it goes dim. Where you can barely see what is on the screen after that loads the screen goes black and you can't do anything. Anyone know how to fix this? geno. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wallstreet start up question.
I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the little happy mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray apple. Why is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas? geno. http://www.barbaloot.com AIM: BARBALUT when you die, says a dark-haired woman at the next table, they can make you into diamonds now. It's scientific. That's how I want to be remembered. I want to shine. -neil gaiman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
On 12/03/03 11:45, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the little happy mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray apple. Why is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas? It seems from your description that when it starts, it tries to boot from OS 9, but at some point fails and then restarts in OS X. Did you set your startup in the 'Startup Disk' pane in 'System Preferences'? -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * fear and loathing n.: [from Hunter S. Thompson] A state inspired by the prospect of dealing with certain real-world systems and standards that are totally brain-damaged but ubiquitous -- Intel 8086s, or COBOL, or EBCDIC, or any IBM machine bigger than a workstation. Ack! They want PCs to be able to talk to the AI machine. Fear and loathing time! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
I just installed the system. and I didn't install OS 9. geno. http://www.barbaloot.com AIM: BARBALUT when you die, says a dark-haired woman at the next table, they can make you into diamonds now. It's scientific. That's how I want to be remembered. I want to shine. -neil gaiman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
On 12/03/03 11:59, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed the system. and I didn't install OS 9. So, you did erase the hard disk first and then proceeded to install X? In the first 8 GB partition of your drive? 10.1? 10.2? -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
I erased the hard drive, and installed 10.2. And it's the original 8gig hard drive. geno. http://www.barbaloot.com AIM: BARBALUT when you die, says a dark-haired woman at the next table, they can make you into diamonds now. It's scientific. That's how I want to be remembered. I want to shine. -neil gaiman -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
On 12/03/03 12:11, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I erased the hard drive, and installed 10.2. And it's the original 8gig hard drive. OK, so, I don't remember clearly from your description, but are you able to boot into 10.2? If so, did you check that you have your OS X system selected in the 'Startup Disk' preference pane in 'System Preferences'? What does that say? -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wallstreet start up question.
On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 11:45 AM, Geno Endicott wrote: I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the little happy mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray apple. Why is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas? geno. From what I understand, the wallstreet is an 'old world' machine, meaning that the boot rom is just that, rom. New World machines (like my TiBook) actually store the contents of the boot rom on disk (correct me if I am wrong.) Since this is an old world machine, the os 9 loader begins and loads the software that boots os x. On my Wallstreet, this sequence of Happy Mac - Apple Logo only happens after a PRAM reset, if this is happening to you every time you shut down, your PRAM battery may have gone south. -Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---