Re: Wallstreet start up

2005-01-30 Thread Mikael Byström
James Sanderson said:

What would keep a WS from starting up with a fully charged battery?  
The battery indicates that it is fully charged.  The computer starts up 
just fine with the adaptor connected.  When the computer is on the 
indicator says that the battery is fully charged.  I have started the 
computer with the battery only before.  The PMU has been replaced; I 
know it works cause before I replaced it this battery that I have was 
discharged.  The charging unit (or whatever it's called) is also new to 
the computer.

Suggestions please?

Unfortunately I have none, but I can share identical experiences with a
WS II/PDQ that I used to own. It wouldn't startup unless it had the
powercord plugged into the wall. Then it could stay up for 2 and half
hours or so. On the other hand it could be moved with no or empty battery
in to another outlet or let me change to a fresh battery, even in the
same bay, while in sleep.
I suppose something in the battery charge is too little to be able to
handle an increased request of power during the startup or there could be
a hardware setting somewhere that prevents startup without a powercord
plugged in. But I wouldn't count on that. Maybe others have better
suggestions. 


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Wallstreet start up

2005-01-27 Thread James Sanderson
What would keep a WS from starting up with a fully charged battery?  
The battery indicates that it is fully charged.  The computer starts up 
just fine with the adaptor connected.  When the computer is on the 
indicator says that the battery is fully charged.  I have started the 
computer with the battery only before.  The PMU has been replaced; I 
know it works cause before I replaced it this battery that I have was 
discharged.  The charging unit (or whatever it's called) is also new to 
the computer.

Suggestions please?
J Sanderson
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Re: Wallstreet start up

2005-01-27 Thread Ben Dyer
How old is the battery? If you start the computer up, then pull the 
power cable out, does it stay on? Sometimes old batteries get confused 
about their charge status, and say they're full when they are in fact 
holding no charge at all.

Cheers,
Ben
On 28 Jan 2005, at 14:06, James Sanderson wrote:
What would keep a WS from starting up with a fully charged battery?  
The battery indicates that it is fully charged.  The computer starts 
up just fine with the adaptor connected.  When the computer is on the 
indicator says that the battery is fully charged.  I have started the 
computer with the battery only before.  The PMU has been replaced; I 
know it works cause before I replaced it this battery that I have was 
discharged.  The charging unit (or whatever it's called) is also new 
to the computer.

Suggestions please?
J Sanderson
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Re: Wallstreet start up

2005-01-27 Thread James Sanderson
On 27 Jan 2005, at 21:38, Ben Dyer wrote:
How old is the battery? If you start the computer up, then pull the 
power cable out, does it stay on? Sometimes old batteries get confused 
about their charge status, and say they're full when they are in fact 
holding no charge at all.

Cheers,
Ben
I don't know the age of the battery.  I can disconnect it from the 
adapter and it stays on and gives my a full run of 3+ hours.  I've done 
this several (3-4) times since I've gotten this computer.

Ta
Jim
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Re: Wallstreet Start-Up Problem

2003-08-05 Thread Wayne
I am 95% sure the Diagnostic Disk was not included, where can this be had?


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Wallstreet Start-Up Problem

2003-08-04 Thread Wayne
I want to see if anyone can shed some light on the problems I have been
having with my Powerbook:

Powerbook Wallstreet, upgraded with Powerlogix 466, 256 Ram, IBM 20gig hd,
Running system 9.1

Problem: After the system has been shut down overnight, the Powerbook will
have several start up problems including bombs with various errors such as
bus error, illegal instruction, etc. and freezes. It takes several forced
re-starts but it eventually goes through and makes it to the end. Once a
successful start-up is done, it runs all day fine without any problems.

So far, I have re-installed the system software twice (I was running OSX,
but removed it thinking the problem was in there), checked everything that
was possible with Techtool Pro, tried with extensions off, without any
peripherals connected, without battery or cd in bays, zapped the PRAM, all
to no avail. I saw about resetting the Open Firmware command and tried this
also. I was not able to bring up the screen using the key command, using
System Disk utility from Apple, I can check the command manually and hold
the keys down to bring up the screen, but then it will not allow any typing
to give commands (frozen?).

I have seen some feeds referring to the PMU unit as a possible culprit. I
think the back up battery is also history (it is a few years old now), does
anyone have any ideas or had similar problems that can give some insight?
And, is there anyway of checking boards such as the PMU outside of shipping
the system off to a service center?

I appreciate any help, thanks.

Wayne 

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Re: Wallstreet Start-Up Problem

2003-08-04 Thread Thomas J Peterson
My wallstreet was pulled from the dumpster, not able to startup.
FN CTL SHIFT Power cycling would bring it up after a while. I assumed 
it to be a bad Backup battery or PMU. I replace the PMU (it came to me 
before the battery) and all has been swell since. Most of the symptoms 
below were experienced by me. I found my PMU on ebay from a pull a part 
guy. Peace
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 01:43 PM, Wayne wrote:

I want to see if anyone can shed some light on the problems I have been
having with my Powerbook:
Powerbook Wallstreet, upgraded with Powerlogix 466, 256 Ram, IBM 20gig 
hd,
Running system 9.1

Problem: After the system has been shut down overnight, the Powerbook 
will
have several start up problems including bombs with various errors 
such as
bus error, illegal instruction, etc. and freezes. It takes several 
forced
re-starts but it eventually goes through and makes it to the end. Once 
a
successful start-up is done, it runs all day fine without any problems.

So far, I have re-installed the system software twice (I was running 
OSX,
but removed it thinking the problem was in there), checked everything 
that
was possible with Techtool Pro, tried with extensions off, without any
peripherals connected, without battery or cd in bays, zapped the PRAM, 
all
to no avail. I saw about resetting the Open Firmware command and tried 
this
also. I was not able to bring up the screen using the key command, 
using
System Disk utility from Apple, I can check the command manually and 
hold
the keys down to bring up the screen, but then it will not allow any 
typing
to give commands (frozen?).

I have seen some feeds referring to the PMU unit as a possible 
culprit. I
think the back up battery is also history (it is a few years old now), 
does
anyone have any ideas or had similar problems that can give some 
insight?
And, is there anyway of checking boards such as the PMU outside of 
shipping
the system off to a service center?

I appreciate any help, thanks.

Wayne

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Re: Wallstreet Start-Up Problem

2003-08-04 Thread Meg St. Clair
On 8/4/03 4:43 PM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (edited for length):

 Powerbook Wallstreet, upgraded with Powerlogix 466, 256 Ram, IBM 20gig hd,
 Running system 9.1
 
 Problem: After the system has been shut down overnight, the Powerbook will
 have several start up problems including bombs with various errors such as
 bus error, illegal instruction, etc. and freezes. It takes several forced
 re-starts but it eventually goes through and makes it to the end. Once a
 successful start-up is done, it runs all day fine without any problems.
 

I realize that OS 9 is much more forgiving of RAM than X but have you tried
taking out any additional RAM? I don't know if that model shipped with the
Apple Hardware Diagnostic disk. If it did, you might try that.

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-13 Thread Taylor McLaren
MEEP! Andrew Johnson wrote:
 Since this is an old world machine, the os 9 loader begins and loads 
 the software that boots os x.
Just out of curiosity, when did this old world to new world (great 
terms, by the way) transition happen? I'm still getting used to my 
first Mac (an iBook 800), and originally made the jump from PCs after 
getting sick of the increasing reliance of every user on service techs, 
product-activation phone lines, etc., and I'm still getting used to the 
idea that you can't necessarily build a Mac from scratch without a hell 
of a lot of experience with its hardware and software.

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-13 Thread Andrew Johnson

On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 08:12  AM, Taylor McLaren wrote:

 Just out of curiosity, when did this old world to new world (great
 terms, by the way) transition happen? I'm still getting used to my
 first Mac (an iBook 800), and originally made the jump from PCs after
 getting sick of the increasing reliance of every user on service techs,
 product-activation phone lines, etc., and I'm still getting used to the
 idea that you can't necessarily build a Mac from scratch without a hell
 of a lot of experience with its hardware and software.

Apparently the Lombard was the first New World architecture (4MB ROM in 
RAM) according to LEM.

-Andrew


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Wallstreet start up problem (BIG!)

2003-03-13 Thread Geno Endicott
I am having a problem with my Wallstreet. When I start it up. It goes 
thru all the normal stuff. Gray screen with apple and then when it goes 
to the OS X start up screen where you see what is loading it goes dim. 
Where you can barely see what is on the screen after that loads the 
screen goes black and you can't do anything. Anyone know how to fix 
this?

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Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Geno Endicott
I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the little happy 
mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray apple. Why 
is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 12/03/03 11:45, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the little
 happy 
 mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray apple. Why
 is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas?

It seems from your description that when it starts, it tries to boot from OS
9, but at some point fails and then restarts in OS X.

Did you set your startup in the 'Startup Disk' pane in 'System Preferences'?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Geno Endicott
I just installed the system. and I didn't install OS 9.

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 12/03/03 11:59, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just installed the system. and I didn't install OS 9.

So, you did erase the hard disk first and then proceeded to install X? In
the first 8 GB partition of your drive? 10.1? 10.2?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Geno Endicott
I erased the hard drive, and installed 10.2. And it's the original 8gig hard 
drive.

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 12/03/03 12:11, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I erased the hard drive, and installed 10.2. And it's the original 8gig hard
 drive.

OK, so, I don't remember clearly from your description, but are you able to
boot into 10.2? If so, did you check that you have your OS X system selected
in the 'Startup Disk' preference pane in 'System Preferences'? What does
that say?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Andrew Johnson

On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 11:45  AM, Geno Endicott wrote:

 I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the 
 little happy
 mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray 
 apple. Why
 is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas?

 geno.


 From what I understand, the wallstreet is an 'old world' machine, 
meaning that the boot rom is just that, rom. New World machines (like 
my TiBook) actually store the contents of the boot rom on disk (correct 
me if I am wrong.) Since this is an old world machine, the os 9 loader 
begins and loads the software that boots os x. On my Wallstreet, this 
sequence of Happy Mac - Apple Logo only happens after a PRAM reset, if 
this is happening to you every time you shut down, your PRAM battery 
may have gone south.

-Andrew


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