Re: WiFI antenna

2006-01-28 Thread Andrew in Ann Arbor

Has anyone ever come up with a way of connecting some kind of external
antenna to the PB to boost signal connectivity?  I've got the G4 AL
15 machine, and I don't even see a decent place to attach something
to a screw.  It would have been nice if there had been a plug or port
on the side of the screen that could have done this!


If your card slot is free you could look for a PC card adapter with an 
antenna port.

Not as slick as the internal card though.
Probably easier to get a higher gain antenna on the access point.

Andrew in Ann Arbor
technology is the answer, what was the question?


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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Howard Katz
On 1/26/06, Tom Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My 12 AL book gets far less range than my 12 iBook because it has a
 smaller antenna, or so the people at MacWorld told me. I would suggest
 getting a better antenna for the WIFI and leave the AL book as it is.

Trouble is, these aren't my basestations, so I can't do any
modifications, including adding antennas, thus my wanting to boost the
PB's reception abilities.

Debra--could you share the item # of the antenna you bought for your
Pismo?  I took a look at their website, and couldn't see anything that
might be for a 'book.


Later...Howard

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Debra Platt
I ordered the YSC-REO5ET with the MC-card connector for the airport 
card.


I first clicked on 2.4 GHz Antennas for 802.b/g WiFi, under the left 
hand menu. If you look under range extenders, and click on a model, 
there is a pull down menu that lets you choose the proper adapter for 
the airport extreme, if that's what you have. If you have questions, 
you can email the contact, he answers pretty promptly. For some reason, 
they don't list all the options under the Apple Airport Compatible 
section.


On Jan 27, 2006, at 9:12 AM, Howard Katz wrote:


On 1/26/06, Tom Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My 12 AL book gets far less range than my 12 iBook because it has a
smaller antenna, or so the people at MacWorld told me. I would suggest
getting a better antenna for the WIFI and leave the AL book as it is.


Trouble is, these aren't my basestations, so I can't do any
modifications, including adding antennas, thus my wanting to boost the
PB's reception abilities.

Debra--could you share the item # of the antenna you bought for your
Pismo?  I took a look at their website, and couldn't see anything that
might be for a 'book.


Later...Howard

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Howard Katz
This still requires a physical connection to the card.  I'm not keen
on making this kind of adaptation.  Besides, if I read it correctly,
one of the ways to attach the antenna is to go thru the PC card slot? 
I'm using my slot with a CF card.

I was told about, but haven't had a chance to track down, a USB
antenna--thin design, could fit easily into a carrying bag.  I don't
know if these just use the physical connection to grab signal, or if
they need software drivers to work.


laterHoward

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Caleb Cupples
On 26/01/06, Tom Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My 12 AL book gets far less range than my 12 iBook because it has a
 smaller antenna, or so the people at MacWorld told me. I would suggest
 getting a better antenna for the WIFI and leave the AL book as it is.

 Tom

The real reason behind the weakness of the G4 'Books wireless
reception is the metal case. The Pismo/Lombard and all the iBooks have
a significant advantage, for this reason alone.

Caleb

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Tom Ethen
That is not what I was told by Apple at MacWorld!

On 1/27/06 3:55 PM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The real reason behind the weakness of the G4 'Books wireless
 reception is the metal case. The Pismo/Lombard and all the iBooks have
 a significant advantage, for this reason alone.
 
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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Tom Ethen
If you look at a parts page on the 12 powerbook, the antenna only goes
around the bottom and up to the grey tabs on the side of the display.

The iBook and Pismo antenna goes all the way around the display, this giving
a larger area to receive WIFI signals.

Tom 
 The real reason behind the weakness of the G4 'Books wireless
 reception is the metal case. The Pismo/Lombard and all the iBooks have
 a significant advantage, for this reason alone.
 
 Caleb
 


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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Caleb Cupples


On Friday, Jan 27, 2006, at 17:11 America/Chicago, Tom Ethen wrote:


If you look at a parts page on the 12 powerbook, the antenna only goes
around the bottom and up to the grey tabs on the side of the display.

The iBook and Pismo antenna goes all the way around the display, this 
giving

a larger area to receive WIFI signals.

Tom


I goofed. Then again, I haven't had an AlBook or a TiBook to test with, 
other than my limited experience with a friend's 15 AlBook that he let 
me borrow while we were in CA last year, since the 190 didn't have 
ethernet or WiFi.  Apple still made a dumb move in the antenna design 
on the G4 PowerBook, though. Just my humble opinion, though.


Caleb

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-27 Thread Tom Ethen
I agree completely!

This bizarre design change forces me to take my iBook when traveling and not
my Albook so I can get stronger WIFI connections. Now, my Pismo, because of
its larger size and much larger antenna (compared to a 12) is the WIFI
champ, but too big to travel with, for me anyway.

Tom

On 1/27/06 5:18 PM, Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I goofed. Then again, I haven't had an AlBook or a TiBook to test with,
 other than my limited experience with a friend's 15 AlBook that he let
 me borrow while we were in CA last year, since the 190 didn't have
 ethernet or WiFi.  Apple still made a dumb move in the antenna design
 on the G4 PowerBook, though. Just my humble opinion, though.
 
 Caleb


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Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Howard Katz
I've got a situation where I'm trying to use the wifi connection in my
'book with a weak base station signal--too much brick and steel in the
way--I can get connected, but it's not stable.

Has anyone ever come up with a way of connecting some kind of external
antenna to the PB to boost signal connectivity?  I've got the G4 AL
15 machine, and I don't even see a decent place to attach something
to a screw.  It would have been nice if there had been a plug or port
on the side of the screen that could have done this!


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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Brian McEwen


On Jan 26, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Howard Katz wrote:



Has anyone ever come up with a way of connecting some kind of external
antenna to the PB to boost signal connectivity?  I've got the G4 AL


http://www.smalldog.com/product/32826

http://www.macwireless.com/html/products/antennas_boosters/whips.php

Are a couple.  I've read good things about the Quicktek one  
(QuickerTek, whatever it is).  No direct experience.  I thought I'd  
seen homebrew things (put cable just alongside the lid or something)  
but did not find them in a quick google.


HTH.

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Howard Katz
I wasn't aware of those--thanks.  Tho to be honest, at $40-50, I might
just put up with a weak signal--those are a bit pricy--the peecee at
work needed an external antenna, and we got a decent one for under
$10--granted, it's not being used on a book, but that's a major price
difference.  :)

I wonder if I could adapt an external antenna with a clip of some sort
on the TNC connector end to work with the 'book..?


Later...Howard

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread sandra ragan


On Jan 26, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Howard Katz wrote:


I've got a situation where I'm trying to use the wifi connection in my
'book with a weak base station signal--too much brick and steel in the
way--I can get connected, but it's not stable.


I've noticed that the older dual USB iBook and the 17 Big Al were 
getting different reception sitting in the same spot but the 
solution wasn't with the machine... I got a better external antenna for 
my Linksys on the recommendation of a techie and that solved the 
problem... something about the quality of the signal from better 
quality hardware than what ships with the unit.


Sandra Ragan
www.plumdigital.com


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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Harry Corsover
What kind of base station or WAP do you have? If it has an external  
antenna, you're in luck. There are hi-gain antennas avaiable,  
sometimes featured at http://dealmac.com for about $10. There are  
ominidirectional ones and directional. I tried an omnidirectional one  
first, but since my WAP is at one end of a long house and downstairs,  
and the place I often use my 15 AlBook is upstairs in a location  
with some interferrence, that didn't work well enough.


I then got a Hawkings dirctional anteanna and that works much better  
for me. I also bought an antenna extension cable so I could mount the  
antenna in the optimal location, high up on a wall downstairs and  
pointing slightly upward.


Regards,

Harry Corsover
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On Jan 26, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Howard Katz wrote:


Has anyone ever come up with a way of connecting some kind of external
antenna to the PB to boost signal connectivity?  I've got the G4 AL
15 machine, and I don't even see a decent place to attach something
to a screw.  It would have been nice if there had been a plug or port
on the side of the screen that could have done this!




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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread dan_A


On Jan 26, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Howard Katz wrote:


I wasn't aware of those--thanks.  Tho to be honest, at $40-50, I might
just put up with a weak signal--those are a bit pricy--the peecee at
work needed an external antenna, and we got a decent one for under
$10--granted, it's not being used on a book, but that's a major price
difference.  :)


One thing that you can do, which I did, is get a second router, there  
are some inexpensive ones that you might find on ebay or at one of  
the usual places. You set up that router as an AP, access point, at  
another location in your apartment. This will extend your signal. You  
do have to connect it via ethernet cable to your router My apartment,  
a duplex with 6 thick concrete floors and ceilings and cinderblock  
walls, didn't interfere with my Belkin Pre N router until a next-door  
neighbor installed the same router. I could not get a signal anymore  
in certain parts of the house, but his came through strong enough for  
me to accidentally lock on. He had no security and a slow cable  
service. Fortunately I still had my older Belkin 54g. Creating an AP  
on that solved the problem. I also got him to secure his network.


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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Debra Platt

http://sharperconcepts.zoovy.com/

I just ordered a antenna for my Pismo for $9.  from this place (plus 
another 8 for shipping). I  haven't received it yet, so I can't report 
anything, but it's worth checking out. They have antennas that attach 
to airport cards and airport extreme cards by attaching to the card 
itself and running the wire out of the card slot on the side.



On Jan 26, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Howard Katz wrote:


I've got a situation where I'm trying to use the wifi connection in my
'book with a weak base station signal--too much brick and steel in the
way--I can get connected, but it's not stable.

Has anyone ever come up with a way of connecting some kind of external
antenna to the PB to boost signal connectivity?  I've got the G4 AL
15 machine, and I don't even see a decent place to attach something
to a screw.  It would have been nice if there had been a plug or port
on the side of the screen that could have done this!


Later...Howard

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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Tom Ethen
My 12 AL book gets far less range than my 12 iBook because it has a
smaller antenna, or so the people at MacWorld told me. I would suggest
getting a better antenna for the WIFI and leave the AL book as it is.

Tom



 I've got a situation where I'm trying to use the wifi connection in my
 'book with a weak base station signal--too much brick and steel in the
 way--I can get connected, but it's not stable.


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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Brian Steere
I have recently got an AL Powerbook and the signal upstairs can fluctuate
quite a lot. (to the point of losing it) Other times in the exact same spot
(in bed) I get full strength. It can change from one moment to anothr. No
idea why.
No other networks impinging as far as I can tell.

Have a d-link 604t ADSL router - Can any of these signal boosting kits work
with any wifi router? I will look some more but didn't see how they fit -is
it a standard fitting?
Scuse me if I am a bit dumb - I am only a few days into portable Mac life.
Its really noce.

all the best
Brian






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Re: Wifi antenna

2006-01-26 Thread Brian McEwen


On Jan 26, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Brian Steere wrote:


No other networks impinging as far as I can tell.



What type of phone system do you have?  the 2.4GHz can be wiping out  
your 802.11, as they hop around.  Or your neighbors phone, even,  
depending.  Or your household items, like microwave.


Have a d-link 604t ADSL router - Can any of these signal boosting  
kits work
with any wifi router? I will look some more but didn't see how they  
fit -is

it a standard fitting?


If you see an easy way to unplug the external antenna on the WAP you  
can likely figure something out.


Try putting your WAP on a different channel.

B


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