Re: wireless router security
I have a D-Link wireless router - there are options to change from the WEP 128 bit encryption to WPA personal.Would doing this create enough of a wall for most people trying to hack in ? I think I'd be prefer MAC address filtering, as I understand it both WEP and WPA require some CPU time for the encryption which might be enough to slow down the connection to a slower computer. MAC address filtering is done at the router and should have no effect on connection speed. This thread has got me motivated to figure out how to enable MAC address filtering on my Linksys... Andrew in Ann Arbor technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security re: file sharing/networks (was Re: Wireless router that handles AppleTalk)
At 6:00 PM -0800 01/13/2006, John Siple wrote: There are a few considerations here. I've thought about this a bit. I have a neighbor who is running an unencrypted network. I sometimes log on to see if network problems are because of my ISP or because of my hardware. Mostly my connection is handier so I use mine. I also have an unencrypted network. She could log onto mine if her ISP gets goofy. I don't think she knows that. But the legalities of exactly who owns bandwidth are undefined. No, they're not. The bandwidth is owned by the ISP. You're permitted to use it based on the limitations set in the AUP/TOS. AUP = Acceptable Use Policy TOS = Terms of Service For instance let's say that I pay an outrageous fee for my connection, which I do, but I need to go on a little trip and while visiting relatives I find an unencrypted access point that connects to my original comcast ISP. Am I stealing bandwidth to use it? I would be doing the same stuff at home but ... In the case of Comcast... Sharing your connection beyond your premises is Theft Of Services. Using a Comcast connection that someone has left open is Theft Of Services. Being a Comcast customer in one area does not give you carte blanche to jack in anywhere. And what is the situation of my own home use? I have 4 Macs and a printer all clawing their way to my router. Sometimes, like during Christmas when my girls are home with their own laptops, I have five. It's all my own family. I still pay rent for all these kids. Woohoo! Kids that you can return when the lease expires! This is why I don't mind babysitting -- you get to give them back when they get cranky! :) Why shouldn't they be able to use my WAN the way they can use the heat inside my house? You mean yer LAN. Even with a wireless hop, it's still local. They should, do, and are permitted per the Comcast agreements. Comcast will not provide technical support your LAN, unless you pay for that support. But you're certainly allowed to fill your home with your kids (leased or owned) and their equipment. ...I remember the early @Home days, when in many areas the TOS specifically stated you could not use NAT. To connect multiple computers, you had to purchase an individual IP for each, for a few bucks per month. Entre the Bells and xDSL - who permitted NAT. The pressure made @Home change their policy. Havoc then occured in some areas because the MSOs had used the 192.168/16 block for some of their intranet (local routers and such)... it made routing interesting when customers misconfigured their home routers! And why should the woman next door, who has one, maybe two computers and no family be paying the same rate I pay? Is she getting ripped off? I kind of think so. She has the same service level caps that you do. She can use the same amount of bandwidth as you. So of course she should pay the same. Same goes for her phone line, sewer, water, gas, and electric hookups. +/- metering. Beware them people what live alone. They're often the heavy gamers or p2p'ers that eat all the upstream bandwidth on your drop! I have also gone down the block to a free internet zone sponsored by the city and connected there. Sometimes I go to the library and they have open connections. Is it somehow unfair use that my neighbor can't take her PC downtown and connect with it? She pays the same taxes I pay. Why can't she take her PC downtown? I know someone who borrows her neighbor's wireless connection for free. He knows about it. She admits it would be better if she got her own. Interesting ethos there. If you saw two people steal merchandise worth, say $45, each month, don't you have an obligation to report them? And if you keep mum about it, doesn't that make you liable as part of their criminal conspiracy? Oh there are just sooo many annoying things you could do to this person. Change your SSID to a racial slur. Change it to something that pokes her politics. hum. hum? hum! oOOOo *chuckle**cough**LOL**ROFL**cough**lung**cough**LOL* - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless router that handles AppleTalk
There are a few considerations here. I've thought about this a bit. I have a neighbor who is running an unencrypted network. I sometimes log on to see if network problems are because of my ISP or because of my hardware. Mostly my connection is handier so I use mine. I also have an unencrypted network. She could log onto mine if her ISP gets goofy. I don't think she knows that. But the legalities of exactly who owns bandwidth are undefined. For instance let's say that I pay an outrageous fee for my connection, which I do, but I need to go on a little trip and while visiting relatives I find an unencrypted access point that connects to my original comcast ISP. Am I stealing bandwidth to use it? I would be doing the same stuff at home but ... And what is the situation of my own home use? I have 4 Macs and a printer all clawing their way to my router. Sometimes, like during Christmas when my girls are home with their own laptops, I have five. It's all my own family. I still pay rent for all these kids. Why shouldn't they be able to use my WAN the way they can use the heat inside my house? And why should the woman next door, who has one, maybe two computers and no family be paying the same rate I pay? Is she getting ripped off? I kind of think so. I have also gone down the block to a free internet zone sponsored by the city and connected there. Sometimes I go to the library and they have open connections. Is it somehow unfair use that my neighbor can't take her PC downtown and connect with it? She pays the same taxes I pay. I find it all a bit fuzzy. I leave my network open and my firewall up and watch my router lights. I know someone who borrows her neighbor's wireless connection for free. He knows about it. She admits it would be better if she got her own. And the real disadvantage is that the borrower is at a serious disadvantage because the wireless net owner has no particular obligation to keep the network up. Sometimes it crashes and the owner doesn't care because he's out of town. The borrower has no way to fix it. Tough luck. I wouldn't want that kind of an arrangement even if it were free. Your neighbor isn't going to get access to your machine. You could make her life much more miserable than she could make yours. If you are getting upset with this person why not open your connection (unencrypt it), but then close it down during times when you see her connected. Watch your wireless light on the router. Pretend you have no idea what's going on but just flip the switch now and then. Or go into the config screens and disable the wireless network that way so that you can stay connected over wires. You could really drive up her stress levels and she would probably go out and buy her own service just for the comfort of being able to control it. Oh there are just sooo many annoying things you could do to this person. Change your SSID to a racial slur. Change it to something that pokes her politics. Change it to a number, then make it invisible. You could have her begging for a cable company to charge her an installation fee. Good barbwire fences make good neighbors ya'know. At any rate don't let this person raise your own stress levels one tiny tick. Not worth it. You da boss. Having that Mac gives you the big stick. John On Jan 12, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Clark Martin wrote: No, I'm not looking, I found one, by accident. I was trying to answer a question on Usenet about looking up AppleTalk info today. As I was playing around with the CLI AppleTalk commands (atlookup, atstatus and others) I realized I was seeing AppleTalk nodes besides my laptop and I have no wired connection at the moment. I pulled up both Interpol and Timbuktu and they both showed AppleTalk stuff too. And Timbuktu actually worked. My wireless router is a Motorola WR850G model. It's fairly current. So if you are looking for something that will do AppleTalk check it out. I was rather particular when I went looking for this router, it has quite a few features that are rare, including support for other routers (IPNetRouter providing a MacIP connection). It is a good router and today it turns out it's even better. It's an 802.11g router and connectivity is quite good. I bought it at a Target store for around $60. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: Wireless router that handles AppleTalk, oops
oops. Sent that last message to the wrong subject line. It was supposed to be for Amber and her snoopy neighbor. Sorry, John -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wireless router that handles AppleTalk
No, I'm not looking, I found one, by accident. I was trying to answer a question on Usenet about looking up AppleTalk info today. As I was playing around with the CLI AppleTalk commands (atlookup, atstatus and others) I realized I was seeing AppleTalk nodes besides my laptop and I have no wired connection at the moment. I pulled up both Interpol and Timbuktu and they both showed AppleTalk stuff too. And Timbuktu actually worked. My wireless router is a Motorola WR850G model. It's fairly current. So if you are looking for something that will do AppleTalk check it out. I was rather particular when I went looking for this router, it has quite a few features that are rare, including support for other routers (IPNetRouter providing a MacIP connection). It is a good router and today it turns out it's even better. It's an 802.11g router and connectivity is quite good. I bought it at a Target store for around $60. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Netgear Pre-N Wireless router
On Jul 31, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Harry Corsover wrote: CompUsa.com has a deal I saw on dealmac.com for a Netgear WGM124 Pre-N Wireless Router for $40 after rebate. http://dealmac.com/ artclick.html?92380,132898. This router uses a preliminary version of the 802.11n standard, which provides for increased range (up to 20%) and speeds over 802.11g. (It's backward-compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b.) Deal ends August 6. Well, you'll not get any of the 'Pre-N' features, so your range may not improve. Second, you don't need a PC slot to use the router, only the card for the PC. (which you're not using.) -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Netgear Pre-N Wireless router
On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 31, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Harry Corsover wrote: CompUsa.com has a deal I saw on dealmac.com for a Netgear WGM124 Pre-N Wireless Router for $40 after rebate. http://dealmac.com/ artclick.html?92380,132898. This router uses a preliminary version of the 802.11n standard, which provides for increased range (up to 20%) and speeds over 802.11g. (It's backward-compatible with 802.11g and 802.11b.) Deal ends August 6. Well, you'll not get any of the 'Pre-N' features, so your range may not improve. Their web site indicates an improvement in range for 802.11b and g of up to 20%. The claims for increased range for Pre-N are significantly higher.I guess I could buy it and return it if this turns out not to be the case. I'm still trying to get info on how many Ethernet ports the device has. I've sent CompUsa an email and left a voice mail. Second, you don't need a PC slot to use the router, only the card for the PC. (which you're not using.) Right. I was talking about the Pre-N PC card. So at least theoretically, one could get the Pre-N features with this card. Their spec sheet for the router includes Mac OS, but the one for the card does not. I'd still llike to hear from anyone who has experience with Netgear. Thanks, Harry Corsover = Empower Your Future www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Netgear Pre-N Wireless router
You might want to wait until the N standard is, well, standardized. This was in today's Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2005/08/01/tgn_sync_wwise_join_forces/ -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Netgear Pre-N Wireless router
On Aug 1, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: You might want to wait until the N standard is, well, standardized. This was in today's Register: http://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2005/08/01/tgn_sync_wwise_join_forces/ -- Bruce Johnson Thanks, Bruce. Since what I was after was a boost in range, I went with a Hawkings Technologies 6 DB antenna for a fraction (less than half, with the $10 rebate) of the price of the Netgear Pre-N. http://dealmac.com/ artclick.html?92410,132951. I even sprang for a 7 ft. extension cable so I can locate the antenna that much closer to where I typically use my PowerBook. Regards, Harry Corsover = Empower Your Future www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
Hi Jim You'll undoubtedly get a lot of advice. One thing I've done with my local SBC DSL 2Wire modem/router/coffeemaker is to make my wi-fi account private or closed. I set it up using the 2Wire software, and you'll have to see if your DLink permits the same thing. That means the name of my local network isn't broadcast. Even though someone else can see there's a wi-fi network, they first have to get the network's name, then crack the password. It's not impossible to crack, but a private/closed network just adds another roadblock and keeps the honest folks honest. -- Jim Thanks for your reply - I am ditching the DLink Router. It has caused no end of problems for me. Initially it was working great but within a couple of days, it just became really erratic. Sometimes it would work fine - then I would have no connection at all and trying to restore it was a pain in the neck. So, I am returning it and hoping to find something a little more reliable. Of course, the Airport Express would be the easiest to deal with but it just costs so much. I appreciate all your suggestions regarding security though- I am going to try the settings you recommended with whichever new router I decide to go with. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
Thanks for your reply - I am ditching the DLink Router. It has caused no end of problems for me. Initially it was working great but within a couple of days, it just became really erratic. Sometimes it would work fine - then I would have no connection at all and trying to restore it was a pain in the neck. So, I am returning it and hoping to find something a little more reliable. Of course, the Airport Express would be the easiest to deal with but it just costs so much. Factor in your two days of frustration, plus the time to return the dlink. Maybe the Airport Extreme or Airport Express might not look so expensive. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Amber wrote: Hi Jim You'll undoubtedly get a lot of advice. One thing I've done with my local SBC DSL 2Wire modem/router/coffeemaker is to make my wi-fi account private or closed. I set it up using the 2Wire software, and you'll have to see if your DLink permits the same thing. That means the name of my local network isn't broadcast. Even though someone else can see there's a wi-fi network, they first have to get the network's name, then crack the password. It's not impossible to crack, but a private/closed network just adds another roadblock and keeps the honest folks honest. -- Jim Thanks for your reply - I am ditching the DLink Router. It has caused no end of problems for me. Initially it was working great but within a couple of days, it just became really erratic. Sometimes it would work fine - then I would have no connection at all and trying to restore it was a pain in the neck. So, I am returning it and hoping to find something a little more reliable. Of course, the Airport Express would be the easiest to deal with but it just costs so much. I appreciate all your suggestions regarding security though- I am going to try the settings you recommended with whichever new router I decide to go with. FWIW... I've bought and sold two Linksys boxes because they simply didn't work well with my Macs (lots of intermittent but recurring problems). Have retired my Netgear because it was not reliable, but I'll keep it as a backup. My Asante wireless router works just right, all the time. It has the advantage of explicitly supporting Macintosh, meaning I can upgrade the firmware from the Mac (impossible with Linksys, Netgear) and it routes AppleTalk so I can make my old standalone HP LaserJet 6MP a network printer by using an AsanteTalk box. The Asante router is also very configurable, and does not use the standard IP addressing or admin passwords that are so common on most cheap wireless routers. I've configured and used both AirPort Express and AirPort base stations and they are good - better, even, in some ways than the Asante. But for performance/price, the Asante is the best I've used. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
Amber, Have you checked D-Link's website for a firmware upgrade for your router? The behaviour you describe sounds exactly like my router. Of course, I didn't find out about looking for a firmware upgrade until AFTER I had purchased a new router! Oh well, now I have an extra one. Presently I am using a Belkin and it has been more reliable than my Linksys (the spare) or my Apple Airport Base Station (replaced because I wanted more speed). My 2ยข John Thanks for your reply - I am ditching the DLink Router. It has caused no end of problems for me. Initially it was working great but within a couple of days, it just became really erratic. Sometimes it would work fine - then I would have no connection at all and trying to restore it was a pain in the neck. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:07 PM, David Lesher wrote: A) WEP is roughly the equal of the hookeye on a screen-door. The designers made some major errors and it's not secure by any means. B) WPA is far better, but I've read of cracks there as well. If you are serious about security, you need to run a VPN. If all you want to do is block casual users, either will do... Another option is to limit the number of concurrent connections to just what you're likely to be running. If you have just the one computer, limit it to just one connection. Then even if the neighbor kid hacks your WEP key and MAC address, he's still denied access. If you get on and are denied access, reset the airport. That kicks him and you can connect. Truthfully though, 50% of all the 'wireless borrowing' I've seen wasn't even intentional. someone gets a wireless router, they hook it up, connect to 'Linksys' or 'Dlink' or whatever, not realizing they connected to their neighbors not theirs. In markets like Tucson, where cable modem connections far outstrip dsl (Qwest uucks!) , most folks don't even notice any difference. Most of the rest are people who turned it on at home, realized they got an internet connection, and never even think about it, just 'Cool!'. I even had one of our users indignantly accuse us of throttling her dial-up connection to unusable levels. She'd connected the phone line and dialed in, but her wireless adapter was already connecting at a much higher speed. Then her neighbor with the wide open router moved...and she started using the modem for real. Since the wireless had come with a new, faster computer, she naturally thought the higher speed was due to the new computer. I'd wager 90% of the home wireless routers out there are still named their default name, *still* have 'admin' as the administrative password, and have no security enabled whatsoever. -- Bruce Johnson No matter where you go, there you are, B. Banzai -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
security on wireless router
I just bought a DLink Wireless Router (DI-524). It was actually not too bad to set up but I do have a couple of concerns re: security. I am wondering which settings I need to be attentive to so I can ensure I don't get outsiders surfing or exploring on my bandwidth. Right now, in the OS X.4 Airport settings under system preferences, I just have the network set to default. Trying to set up any other kind of network seems to cut my connection completely. I only have the Powerbook - no other computers right now so of course, the cable modem cable runs directly into the router, allowing me to surf wirelessly from anywhere in my place. When I ran the set up program for the router, I used the lower encryption level. Any recommendations on security settings would be much appreciated, Thanks, Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Amber wrote: I am wondering which settings I need to be attentive to so I can ensure I don't get outsiders surfing or exploring on my bandwidth. The bad news it, its pretty trivial for anyone to do anything, no matter what security you set. It used to take 100k packets or so for them to be able to decrypt the WEP encoding but new software can usually do it in a few seconds now. MAC address restrictions are fine but if someone has their card in promiscuous mode, they can see what MAC addresses are being allowed 'cos that part is sent in the clear, outside of any WEP encryption. And then they just clone the address of someone who is allowed. Mac users are at a disadvantage for hacking into other peoples' base stations, the Airport card cannot be put into a promiscous mode (where it reads and records all traffic) unlike regular cards. so if your neighbors are al Mac users, turn on MAC address filtering and you are free from them, anyway :) I use MAC address filtering, without WEP, and figure it's good enough. If someone wanted in, or to snoop, they are in, I just make it a little hard for regular folks and it's enough to keep most out. IMO the most important thing for you to do for real security is make sure your base station has remote administration turned off; so people on the wired internet cannot try and telnet into it (and believe me, they will). Setting up MAC filtering or WEP is helpful but not really that protective. HTH. Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
On Jul 2, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Amber wrote: I just bought a DLink Wireless Router (DI-524). It was actually not too bad to set up but I do have a couple of concerns re: security. I am wondering which settings I need to be attentive to so I can ensure I don't get outsiders surfing or exploring on my bandwidth. Right now, in the OS X.4 Airport settings under system preferences, I just have the network set to default. Trying to set up any other kind of network seems to cut my connection completely. I only have the Powerbook - no other computers right now so of course, the cable modem cable runs directly into the router, allowing me to surf wirelessly from anywhere in my place. When I ran the set up program for the router, I used the lower encryption level. Any recommendations on security settings would be much appreciated, Thanks, Amber You'll undoubtedly get a lot of advice. One thing I've done with my local SBC DSL 2Wire modem/router/coffeemaker is to make my wi-fi account private or closed. I set it up using the 2Wire software, and you'll have to see if your DLink permits the same thing. That means the name of my local network isn't broadcast. Even though someone else can see there's a wi-fi network, they first have to get the network's name, then crack the password. It's not impossible to crack, but a private/closed network just adds another roadblock and keeps the honest folks honest. -- Jim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
A) WEP is roughly the equal of the hookeye on a screen-door. The designers made some major errors and it's not secure by any means. B) WPA is far better, but I've read of cracks there as well. If you are serious about security, you need to run a VPN. If all you want to do is block casual users, either will do... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
I guess the answer depends on where you live. If you are in a house that is relatively far from other houses which prevents people from snooping on your net from comfort of their homes you will be fine with WEP and if you want MAC address filtering (adding little more steps for the hacker). If you have only AirPort Express or other WiFi G machines connected you could use WPA insted of WEP (it is little more secure). I use WEP + MAC address filtering on my network which is sufficient in my neighborhood. I figured that there are not many hackers around me. But if I lived in large city I would probably have something stronger setup. -- Honza www.lesninoviny.com - Blog z lesu a haju Pennsylvanie (.mac: musiljan) (ICQ: 134361915) (Y!: musiljan) (M: +1 610 570 9349) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: security on wireless router
Correction: The AirPort Extreme card can't. The normal AirPort card can. Most 3rd party USB/PCMCIA ones can on Macs with the supported chipsets. And it's RFMon mode, not promiscuous mode. Promiscuous mode is getting all the packets on a network. RFmon mode is getting all the packets from every network. Check this out: http://kismac.com/ On 03/07/2005, at 5:16 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: On Jul 2, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Amber wrote: I am wondering which settings I need to be attentive to so I can ensure I don't get outsiders surfing or exploring on my bandwidth. The bad news it, its pretty trivial for anyone to do anything, no matter what security you set. It used to take 100k packets or so for them to be able to decrypt the WEP encoding but new software can usually do it in a few seconds now. MAC address restrictions are fine but if someone has their card in promiscuous mode, they can see what MAC addresses are being allowed 'cos that part is sent in the clear, outside of any WEP encryption. And then they just clone the address of someone who is allowed. Mac users are at a disadvantage for hacking into other peoples' base stations, the Airport card cannot be put into a promiscous mode (where it reads and records all traffic) unlike regular cards. so if your neighbors are al Mac users, turn on MAC address filtering and you are free from them, anyway :) I use MAC address filtering, without WEP, and figure it's good enough. If someone wanted in, or to snoop, they are in, I just make it a little hard for regular folks and it's enough to keep most out. IMO the most important thing for you to do for real security is make sure your base station has remote administration turned off; so people on the wired internet cannot try and telnet into it (and believe me, they will). Setting up MAC filtering or WEP is helpful but not really that protective. HTH. Brian -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless router woes
The National Enquirer reports at 12:53 AM -0600 1/15/05, Claire Hart wrote: We have five computers connected through a Netgear wireless router to DSL. The wireless computers are my PowerBook and my son's PC laptop. The wired computers are my iMac and my sons' PC towers. Last summer when we made the switch to DSL, everyone said, Get a Netgear router! While the wired computers are always able to be online, the wireless connection sometimes doesn't work. The fix was to disconnect the router's power for a moment, then plug it back in, and the two wireless computers would have the signal restored. Since mid-December, the wireless part hasn't worked at all. Well, let me take that back: one day out of the clear blue it did work. Of course, now everyone is telling us, Why did you get a Netgear? You should have gotten a Linksys! Our ISP suggested looking for firmware updates on the router, which we did. Netgear's tech support explained a fix, which didn't help, then sent us to critical care tech support and they recommended the same fix as the first group. We are currently ping-ponging emails back and forth trying to determine the problem. I am really thinking of buying an Airport Extreme base (or that pre-N router with the three antennas) for the wireless computers, and leaving the wired computers on the existing system. However, I hate to have to buy another router when we already have one. (Planned obsolescence?) Does anyone have a suggestion? Sorry about your troubles with the Netgear router, Claire. Without trying to rub it in, I'm afraid I agree with Kyle. Not everyone experiences problems when they use a router from a company that is not really Apple oriented. But it seems to be too frequent. Let me be the first to warn you away from LinkSys. A number of local user's in my area have had their (LinkSys) router fail on them after a year or so. If Apple's ABS options (even used ones) are out of your price range, Kyle's suggestion of a Buffalo unit would be my second recommendation as well. They have been Mac supporters for some time and their equipment is good. My only question would be if you need to use an AppleTalk printer on your network. I don't remember off the top of my head whether the Buffalo router passes AppleTalk or not. I hope you have better luck with your next router, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless router woes
On 1/15/05 1:53 AM, Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, now everyone is telling us, Why did you get a Netgear? You should have gotten a Linksys! Does anyone have a suggestion? I think each region has its own refrain. At the college computer club it is, You should never have bought a Linksuck! Get Netgear or Buffalo. I suspect whichever router is most popular in a particular area that's the one that gets dissed. I also suspect that all consumer wireless stations are marginally specced and marginally crafted to be as cheap as possible. Remember, two years ago the going price was about $150 and now it is $40 at WalMart. (And that's a rant for another day.) Suggestions? If it is still under warranty start making noises at customer service for a replacement. When a unit has been working and then suddenly stops (and no configuration changes preceded the failure) a firmware update isn't likely to fix it. The most likely fix is a powerdown or resetting to defaults. You've tried the first, have you tried the second? If so, beginning demanding warranty replacement. If the unit is out of warranty then it is time to buy a new one. I'd been buying Airports for personal use mostly for the convenience factor but next time around I'll buy a Buffalo unit unless Apple's has dropped below $100. Why Buffalo? I bought several Buffalo printer servers this summer and had a couple problems. Tech and customer service were beyond good. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Linksys wireless router, favorable data point
Let me be the first to warn you away from LinkSys. A number of local user's in my area have had their (LinkSys) router fail on them after a year or so. I've had good luck with linksys, specifically a BEFW41 (?) wireless 4 port 802.11b model. I've been using it for at least 3 years with a Wallstreet and a Lombard as well as a couple of PC notebooks. I think there may be a problem with passing appletalk packets but I've never had more than one Mac connected at once so I've never had to deal with it. I do like the browser based setup utility, I can get into the router from any computer with any operating system using any browser. -- Andrew in South-East Ann Arbor -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless router woes
While the wired computers are always able to be online, the wireless connection sometimes doesn't work. The fix was to disconnect the router's power for a moment, then plug it back in, and the two wireless computers would have the signal restored Yeah, mine does that too. I have an Airport Extreme base unit waiting for me to get round to slotting it into place instead of the netgear router. I've had a Netgear router for 3 years now. It's worked well for me, both with my Pismo and my new 15 AlBook. I rarely wireless problems, but when I do, a computer restart usually solves it. Kate -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wireless router woes
We have five computers connected through a Netgear wireless router to DSL. The wireless computers are my PowerBook and my son's PC laptop. The wired computers are my iMac and my sons' PC towers. Last summer when we made the switch to DSL, everyone said, Get a Netgear router! While the wired computers are always able to be online, the wireless connection sometimes doesn't work. The fix was to disconnect the router's power for a moment, then plug it back in, and the two wireless computers would have the signal restored. Since mid-December, the wireless part hasn't worked at all. Well, let me take that back: one day out of the clear blue it did work. Of course, now everyone is telling us, Why did you get a Netgear? You should have gotten a Linksys! Our ISP suggested looking for firmware updates on the router, which we did. Netgear's tech support explained a fix, which didn't help, then sent us to critical care tech support and they recommended the same fix as the first group. We are currently ping-ponging emails back and forth trying to determine the problem. I am really thinking of buying an Airport Extreme base (or that pre-N router with the three antennas) for the wireless computers, and leaving the wired computers on the existing system. However, I hate to have to buy another router when we already have one. (Planned obsolescence?) Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks, Claire -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless router woes
On 1/14/05 10:53 PM, Claire Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: We have five computers connected through a Netgear wireless router to DSL. The wireless computers are my PowerBook and my son's PC laptop. The wired computers are my iMac and my sons' PC towers. Last summer when we made the switch to DSL, everyone said, Get a Netgear router! While the wired computers are always able to be online, the wireless connection sometimes doesn't work. The fix was to disconnect the router's power for a moment, then plug it back in, and the two wireless computers would have the signal restored. Since mid-December, the wireless part hasn't worked at all. Well, let me take that back: one day out of the clear blue it did work. Of course, now everyone is telling us, Why did you get a Netgear? You should have gotten a Linksys! Our ISP suggested looking for firmware updates on the router, which we did. Netgear's tech support explained a fix, which didn't help, then sent us to critical care tech support and they recommended the same fix as the first group. We are currently ping-ponging emails back and forth trying to determine the problem. I am really thinking of buying an Airport Extreme base (or that pre-N router with the three antennas) for the wireless computers, and leaving the wired computers on the existing system. However, I hate to have to buy another router when we already have one. (Planned obsolescence?) Does anyone have a suggestion? Yes. Dump the Netgear and get a Buffalo. Either that or an Apple Branded base station, but they are expensive. Kyle Hansen -- The best way out is always through. -- Robert Frost -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wireless router woes
Claire Hart wrote: While the wired computers are always able to be online, the wireless connection sometimes doesn't work. The fix was to disconnect the router's power for a moment, then plug it back in, and the two wireless computers would have the signal restored Yeah, mine does that too. I have an Airport Extreme base unit waiting for me to get round to slotting it into place instead of the netgear router. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...a state of suspended disaster... things go round looking for me to happen to -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: wireless router
The National Enquirer reports at 10:46 PM -0700 9/6/04, Kathryn Odell wrote: I am the proud owner of a PowerBook laptop--15! I'm really enjoying it! My question---I'm currently using a NetGear 11.b wireless router, but I would like to upgrade to g for the speed. Has anyone done this? I noticed that you can get a NetGear for about $29. Has anyone tried it? Thanks for your comments, kate I don't know how long you've been on the list, Kate, or how much attention you've paid to recent posts, but I'll reiterate something this has been said here often. Unless you are planning on transferring numerous files of very large size ** (i.e. Gigabytes) from one computer one your network to another computer on your network**, you really won't benefit from upgrading to the 802.11g hardware. You absolutely won't see any speed increase on your Internet connection despite having any form of broadband. Its not even utilizing the full transfer-rate of your 802.11b hardware. Now if you were to say that you like color of the 11g model better, or that its shape fits your decor better...well, hey, I'm married. (*_*) But just to change for the speed, that comes down to logic, not taste. On the other hand $29 is not much. So whatever makes you happy. I'm just trying to help your expectations meet your reality. HTH, Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
wireless router
I am the proud owner of a PowerBook laptop--15! I'm really enjoying it! My question---I'm currently using a NetGear 11.b wireless router, but I would like to upgrade to g for the speed. Has anyone done this? I noticed that you can get a NetGear for about $29. Has anyone tried it? Thanks for your comments, kate -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wireless router troubles
I have been struggling to get a Netgear MR814v2 router to stay connected to my two ethernet connected iBooks and my Airport connected TiBook using DSL. I spent a couple hours talking to Netgear service, installed a firmware upgrade, restarted everything so many times it makes my head spin. Netgear support doesn't offer warranty-covered support for Macs unless you agree to pay by the minute so they are essentially useless. I am ready to give up on this product and try something else. I have two wired connections and one wireless, so I need a Mac supported router to handle this configuration. Does anyone have experience with the following brands: Belkin, D-Link, Asanta or Buffalo? Is the Airport Base Station worth considering? Many thanks for your input. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
problems with wireless router
I am running 10.2.3. I have a cable modem hooked up to a D-Link wireless router and using an Apple airport card. Many times when I wake up my Pismo it won't pick up the wireless connection until I disconnect the modem, then the router, plug them back in and turn Airport back on. This only occurs when the unit is put to sleep. Thank you. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
At 11:56 PM -0800 11/29/2002, Kevin Stevens wrote: On Friday, Nov 29, 2002, at 23:42 US/Pacific, Clark Martin wrote: Which routers support AppleTalk between the wireless and wired LAN. This is a must for me, just to be able to print. I don't know why but this should be difficult but it seems like the device should transfer ANY Ethernet packets. Not packets, frames. AppleTalk uses it's own frame type, which isn't the same as normal Ethernet. Some devices support it, others don't. Also, note that you won't be *routing* between the wireless and wired LAN segments, you're bridging. The routing is between either of those segments and the internet segment of the router. Just FYI. I know it's bridging, I just call it a router as that is what they are generally refered to as. They are really router/bridge/switch/accesspoint if not more things too. As a general question can the wireless routers be used simply as an access point. That is, to connect a wired LAN to wireless computers. It seems some at least should be able to based on looking at some features. I have a software router now and want to stick with it unless I can find a hardware router than can do as much. Yep. Just ignore the internet side port/segment. I'm using a Netgear MR814 like this right now. Are there any low cost routers that not only do port mapping but also remap the port numbers. I think this is a big limitation of the ones I've seen so far. They'll map one port number to a computer on the LAN but what if you have two or more computers you want to make available. For example you can have multiple computers accessible by AppleShare IP or Timbuktu by mapping them to different port numbers (549, 550,... and 408, 409, ... respectively). Now I'm confused. If you want a router in between the wireless and wired sides of the internal LAN, the cheap internet routers won't do this. You could put the single-port Internet side on one side of the LAN and the wireless on the other, but that seems in conflict with what I understood you to be saying above. This is in case I use the router to connect to my broadband connection. However, all of the internet routers I've dealt with *can* map different port maps to different internal IP addresses; not just one. The limitation they usually have is that they'll only pass unfiltered traffic to one IP address. But they don't seem to be able to map from the WAN IP address/port to a LAN IP address and a different port. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
On Saturday, Nov 30, 2002, at 00:51 US/Pacific, Clark Martin wrote: I know it's bridging, I just call it a router as that is what they are generally refered to as. They are really router/bridge/switch/accesspoint if not more things too. Ok, I always throw that in there because a lot of people are confused about it. Now I'm confused. If you want a router in between the wireless and wired sides of the internal LAN, the cheap internet routers won't do this. You could put the single-port Internet side on one side of the LAN and the wireless on the other, but that seems in conflict with what I understood you to be saying above. This is in case I use the router to connect to my broadband connection. Ok again... However, all of the internet routers I've dealt with *can* map different port maps to different internal IP addresses; not just one. The limitation they usually have is that they'll only pass unfiltered traffic to one IP address. But they don't seem to be able to map from the WAN IP address/port to a LAN IP address and a different port. Sure, that's exactly what they do. Both my Netgear and a super-cheap Gigafast internet router I have do this, as well as of course my Cisco 806 router which is what I actually use. You can define a source port, a destination port, and a destination IP address. The source IP address is determined by what you assigned to the WAN interface. I just went and double-checked to be sure - obviously the more common need is to simply forward an incoming port to the same port at a different address, but they do allow for changing the destination port as well. I imagine you should check the docs for the specific device you're considering, but it is a generally available feature. I don't recommend the Netgear only because some people report that it doesn't bridge AppleTalk frames (I don't use AppleTalk). Rumor is the older MR 314 does, but I wouldn't recommend that either because it's been obsoleted by the 814. KeS -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
On Saturday, Nov 30, 2002, at 04:10 US/Eastern, Kevin Stevens wrote: I imagine you should check the docs for the specific device you're considering, but it is a generally available feature. I don't recommend the Netgear only because some people report that it doesn't bridge AppleTalk frames (I don't use AppleTalk). Rumor is the older MR 314 does, but I wouldn't recommend that either because it's been obsoleted by the 814. Yeah, like the SE was obsoleted by the Classic BTW, the MR314 does support AppleTalk, it still works. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
On Saturday, Nov 30, 2002, at 04:48 US/Pacific, P.F.Grenier wrote: On Saturday, Nov 30, 2002, at 04:10 US/Eastern, Kevin Stevens wrote: I imagine you should check the docs for the specific device you're considering, but it is a generally available feature. I don't recommend the Netgear only because some people report that it doesn't bridge AppleTalk frames (I don't use AppleTalk). Rumor is the older MR 314 does, but I wouldn't recommend that either because it's been obsoleted by the 814. Yeah, like the SE was obsoleted by the Classic BTW, the MR314 does support AppleTalk, it still works. I don't understand your analogy (I don't know/care about old Macs); my point was that the 814 is a newer model than the 314, but is functionally similar, and thus is more likely to be supported by Netgear for a longer period. KeS -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 23:42:24 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (G-Books) Subject: Wireless Router options I have a New Powerbook G3 (no Series). I want to put a Orinoco Gold card in it and get a wireless router to connect it to the network. Some questions: First does anyone know someplace to get an Orinoco Gold for less than $65. Which routers support AppleTalk between the wireless and wired LAN. This is a must for me, just to be able to print. I don't know why but this should be difficult but it seems like the device should transfer ANY Ethernet packets. As a general question can the wireless routers be used simply as an access point. That is, to connect a wired LAN to wireless computers. It seems some at least should be able to based on looking at some features. I have a software router now and want to stick with it unless I can find a hardware router than can do as much. Are there any low cost routers that not only do port mapping but also remap the port numbers. I think this is a big limitation of the ones I've seen so far. They'll map one port number to a computer on the LAN but what if you have two or more computers you want to make available. For example you can have multiple computers accessible by AppleShare IP or Timbuktu by mapping them to different port numbers (549, 550,... and 408, 409, ... respectively). TIA -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
If you must print there are routers with built in printer servers, or you could get a wireless print server. SMC is having a big sale on these routers now at most retailers on and offline. -- Mike Amato -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 06:42 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Which routers support AppleTalk between the wireless and wired LAN. This is a must for me, just to be able to print. I don't know why but this should be difficult but it seems like the device should transfer ANY Ethernet packets. I have a D-Link DI-614+, and it does all that you mention. I forward a variety of ports to the SSH ports on a few machines on my LAN, so I can get at all my machines remotely. I also have a beige G3 and an ethernet print server connected via a cable to the 614+ and I regularly browse shares on the G3 and print from wireless devices. It was occasionally flaky when my ADSL dropped out when I first got it, but a firmware update to fix that appeared on the D-Link site very quickly. I have nothing but love for this device now. http://www.dlink.com/products/digitalHome/wireless/11b+/di614+/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Wireless Router options
I have a New Powerbook G3 (no Series). I want to put a Orinoco Gold card in it and get a wireless router to connect it to the network. Some questions: First does anyone know someplace to get an Orinoco Gold for less than $65. Which routers support AppleTalk between the wireless and wired LAN. This is a must for me, just to be able to print. I don't know why but this should be difficult but it seems like the device should transfer ANY Ethernet packets. As a general question can the wireless routers be used simply as an access point. That is, to connect a wired LAN to wireless computers. It seems some at least should be able to based on looking at some features. I have a software router now and want to stick with it unless I can find a hardware router than can do as much. Are there any low cost routers that not only do port mapping but also remap the port numbers. I think this is a big limitation of the ones I've seen so far. They'll map one port number to a computer on the LAN but what if you have two or more computers you want to make available. For example you can have multiple computers accessible by AppleShare IP or Timbuktu by mapping them to different port numbers (549, 550,... and 408, 409, ... respectively). TIA -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Wireless Router options
On Friday, Nov 29, 2002, at 23:42 US/Pacific, Clark Martin wrote: Which routers support AppleTalk between the wireless and wired LAN. This is a must for me, just to be able to print. I don't know why but this should be difficult but it seems like the device should transfer ANY Ethernet packets. Not packets, frames. AppleTalk uses it's own frame type, which isn't the same as normal Ethernet. Some devices support it, others don't. Also, note that you won't be *routing* between the wireless and wired LAN segments, you're bridging. The routing is between either of those segments and the internet segment of the router. Just FYI. As a general question can the wireless routers be used simply as an access point. That is, to connect a wired LAN to wireless computers. It seems some at least should be able to based on looking at some features. I have a software router now and want to stick with it unless I can find a hardware router than can do as much. Yep. Just ignore the internet side port/segment. I'm using a Netgear MR814 like this right now. Are there any low cost routers that not only do port mapping but also remap the port numbers. I think this is a big limitation of the ones I've seen so far. They'll map one port number to a computer on the LAN but what if you have two or more computers you want to make available. For example you can have multiple computers accessible by AppleShare IP or Timbuktu by mapping them to different port numbers (549, 550,... and 408, 409, ... respectively). Now I'm confused. If you want a router in between the wireless and wired sides of the internal LAN, the cheap internet routers won't do this. You could put the single-port Internet side on one side of the LAN and the wireless on the other, but that seems in conflict with what I understood you to be saying above. However, all of the internet routers I've dealt with *can* map different port maps to different internal IP addresses; not just one. The limitation they usually have is that they'll only pass unfiltered traffic to one IP address. KeS TIA -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: problems with LinkSys wireless router.
(G-Books) wrote: -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com] On Behalf Of george ruta Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: help! with router i decided to go wireless after reading the previous posts. my pismo works fine directly connected to earthlink cable modem. it talks to and configures the linksys router (befw11s4 ver 2), but i can't get to the internet via the router, even though the wan led is lit on the router. i tried both the suggested automatic ip address and typing in the numbers manually. the isp says they don't support home networks, and i have not gotten through to linksys. any ideas out there? thanks -- george ruta - northcountry kayak George I have the same router and have used it with Comcast cable and Earthlink DSL. The key in my case was cloning the MAC address so that the router identified itself as the same device that the cable modem (or DSL modem) was originally hooked up with. I had to upgrade the router firmware to 1.37.9b on my original non-wireless Linksys router to enable MAC address cloning. I think the wireless router came with the later firmware. Open the configuration page for your router and look for an advanced tab in the upper right corner. Once you've selected advanced you should have a tab labeled MAC Addr. clone where you can type in the MAC from your pismo. For what it's worth I have nothing entered in host name or domain name and I have obtain an IP address automatically selected. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Belkin wireless Router Feedback
On 5/9/02 19:15, Diane Gamm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: p.s. CompUSA has a Belkin wireless router on sale for $99 this week. I use the the Belkin wireless router at home, and connect to it with my TiBook and Orinoco Gold PC Card. Works just fine, but it seems to loose connection to our DSL router once a day, or so. I suspect it's something to do with the DSL router, though, since our D-Link residential gateway would do the same thing. But I can't be for sure. I'd say it's probably worth 99 bucks, though. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
