Re: [Audyssey] games on a business PC - Re: The importance ofpatronage
when i did my degree, my student equipment grant did buy me a laptop. That was the laptop I started playing web rpgs and interactive fiction on which taught me a lot about it. I certainly would've had no compunction about using it for games, afterall it wasn't as if they wanted it back ;D. the laptop which this new one of mine is replacing was actually the one bought in 2005 by the equipment grant for my masters. I wrote all my ma essays on it, and indeed took it to conferences which was what it was for, however as everyone will know I also played games on it too, right up until the point the headphone sockit died over christmas. ddid I refrain from putting games on it? heck no! did I work on it, yes certainly! Did I get the state to buy it for me just! to put games on, certainly not indeed! however it didn't cost them any extra cash at all. Actually it's a real shame the chap who sorted out all my equipment grants actually died recently. He was fantastic, and certainly had no objection to people having fun with computers, his view was the option was available to sited people so why not, so long as it didn't come out of the budgit. It's a great shame though sinse I really think he would've approved of audio games, not the least because he also sorted out teaching and equipment for primary school children, he probably would've deffinately approved fof accessible games as a way of learning just as Charles said. I actually think this is an interesting issue, and probably needs a place in my phd somewhere sinse it's such a general thought, and one of the issues I wish to raise in chapter 4 is the responsability of a disabled person to everyone else which certainly covers this fact. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
I've encountered the atitude that I don't use a cane because it shows I'm blind Actually this came up when i was applying for a guide dog last year (I'm stil on the list). the thing I find odd, is that I use a cane not for anyone else, or for appearence, but just for me! My sense of space (or lack of), frequently means I can't judge the distance of something even if I perceive or see it (and it'd have to be pretty close for me to see it). Looking as though I'm blind? I think i'd look far more stupid falling down a flight of stairs and breaking my nose, and as for danger, - well see the above comment! In terms of other people and taking up more pathway that rather confuses me, sinse certainly with the technique I use the cane tip is only 2 foot in front of my own feet and as wide as my body. There are certainly people, - , lets say larger in gurth than i am who probably take up more space overall ;D. I sometimes run into complaints when i'm out and about, not of me, just of disabled people in general (I think such people would complain equally if there was someone in a wheel chair coming down the street), but usually such people will get a very sharp answer indeed. beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
That's really quite bad Sean, and also probably not ultimately in your best interests, sinse I've found if you show yourself to be incapable people will (understandably), treat you as such, give no weight to your opinions, and not really reguard you as a person. last night I was at a lecture in the department and afterwards I went for a drink with people. yes, if i'd played the pathetic card I probably could've got someone to get me a chair, and probably a drink too, but would they have taken any comments I had on the paper seriously? hell no! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Quentins playroom documentation?
Hi, ok, thanks. In the readme it says to press ctrl+f1 for help and that gave me a 404 too, but I'll try just pressing f1 and hope it works. Thanks and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Groom Hunter, Mysteries of the royal wedding.
Yes Sean, the cyber queen! ;D. Deffinately someone who has removed all emotion I think. I actually once had a discussion with someone about whether the Queen could pass the turin test ;D. In fairness half of my objection to the royal family is actually based entirely upon there wellbeing. it seems just as unfair that they should be forced into such responsability and insanity just by an accident of birth, as that they get so much privilidge by that same accident. I've met aristocrats, lords and such (durham is that sort of university), and generally they've been horrendously unpleasant people who see themselves as entitled and better than everyone else , in fact the only members of the Aristocracy I have any time for are those who do something else of note, like Professor/lord winston the famous biologist who i've seen on a couple of occasions giving talks, and who I ertainly respect far more as a scientist and academic, which he has worked to achieve than as a lord which he's done nothing for. And in the current financial crysis, when the government is stripping money from everyone they can, to have these people stil supported by the state, not to mention the expense on the blasted wedding is to my mind insane! not to mention unfair in the extreme. On the subject of the royals being gits, i actually had a friend share a tent with prince william in the air training core, and he said he was the most completely unpleasant, self obsessed scumbag you could possibly imagine, then again given the upbringing, childhood and family he has that probably isn't entirely his fault. My objection to the monarchy is also tied up with some of my thoughts about the nastiness of patriotism (I make a point of never standing should the national anthem be played). I actually would like to meet the queen, I would take great pleasure in calling her Mrs. Windser, ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Groom Hunter, Mysteries of the royal wedding. Oh god dark. I saw the epesode about dr who and the cyber king a couple days ago. Now you will give me nightmares. We will all be upgraded. anything else will get deleted. Oh well at least its not the dalecs or borg though both of those are usually noisy races. At 03:16 a.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote: Well, sinse the queen lacks all emotion and is probably a robot, --- maybe short circuite her! You also missed out her having to cope with the prince being a git (I had a friend of mine share a tent with him on a military exercize, and apparently this is true, though given the members of the aristocracy I've met myself I find it quite believeable). Can you tell I'm not a fan of the British monarchy? ;D. Stil lovely idea for a game phil, I particularly like the idea of the fanfare band and their trumpets of doom! Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Groom Hunter, Mysteries of the royal wedding. Games we'd like to play by Phil Vlasak Groom Hunter: Mysteries of the royal wedding. In this fast action game, you Are Kate Middleton, a daring groom hunter, willing to risk everything to find and merry the long time bachelor, Prince William of Wales. Her mission will not be an easy one as she must start at the University of Saint Andrews, first encountering the Prince. In later levels she must continue to be friends, rekindling their relationship. Once she gets to the marriage announcement level, she must design her coat of arms, pick from several Seating plans, and decide where to put the Azalea, lilac and rhododendron flowers. Along the way she will collect a huge oval sapphire engagement ring, try on dozens of wedding dresses, and plan the decorations for the Abbey. On the day of the wedding, she must avoid such traps as the rainy Weather forecast, a bumpy Rolls-Royce Phantom procession, to finally make her way through the 20-foot trees adorning the aisle. She will also encounter thousands of media representatives, two choirs, the London Chamber Orchestra, and a fanfare team from the Central Band of the Royal Air Force performing the music. If Catherine finally makes it to Westminster Abbey, she must face her greatest challenge, coming face to face with the ultimate Boss, The Queen. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of audio games
True indeed Che. Actually I've frequently used arcade or basic puzle games as a concentration aide, quite a lot of my undergrad disertation was thought up while playing marrio brothers or tetris, sinse I could essentially just think over the issues while my mind was busy. then of course, there are some games that actually are great ways of practicing skills. I only realized the other day, that my comprehention of routes and memory of landmarks (which in my case substitute for spacial memory), was something I started to develope at the age of 9 while playing exploration games like turrican. No in game maps, and only a limited view of what's on screen, want to teach a visually impared person routes with limited mobility? Couldn't think of a better way actually. I've even noticed that card games or stratogy games improve my logic skills too, which for academic study is pretty essential. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Hi Thomas, That's cool that you broke all the rules. But you know some clients, especially maybe newly blind, may be feeling overwhelmed and so when their BSVI counselor told them not to use the new very expensive equipment that they just bought for them for anything other than what it was bought for, they may have been afraid that the counselor would find the games on the computer and take it all back. And then of course there are the clients that just try to get every single bit of stuff that they can suck out of the system. And maybe they didn't even want the stuff and don't care how they use or treat it all. And then maybe there are people like me that BSVI did not buy a single thing for. So since I bought every single bit of access technology that I own, I just make my own rules. TGIF and BFN Jim If you play by the rules, you're gonna miss all the fun. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)!
This looks fake. We received a fabulous feedbacks. Instead of that, they could have written. We received great feedback on our games. This doesn't look real, and I don't know how the person did this. I saw this on the audio games.net forum. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! Notice how the author of this Email switched from the past to the present or future? Even at the very beginning, questions arise: bavisoft was a fair enterprise, committed towards the development of high quality computer games for the blind. Question: Was?? You mean that they no longer are?? we received a rather fabulous feedbacks regarding the both games we have created certainly, we had plans for the future. Question: A rather fabulous feedbacks?? Would that be singular?, or plural. And that's just for starters. The very first thought I had was that I am reading something on a hijacked site, done by someone in a foreign country who isn't taking care to hide the fact that this is a phony. JMO, though. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: bryant walker bryantwalk...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! Hello everyone Recently on the audiogames forum there was a message from an audiogamer who recently sent a message to bavisoft and he actually got a reply. But judging from the many gramatical errors in the email message, i'm begining to think this may not be bavisoft that actually replyed. I'm begining to also wonder if someone has taken over there company. ANyway, the email is below for those of you who want to read it. Feel free to leave your thoughts in this topic. But if this is indeed bavisoft, well, we at least know they are alive. Note again, this email was not directed to me, but to someone else. hi sid. we have read your email and would not like to say anything much. bavisoft was a fair enterprise, commited towards the development of high quality computer games for the blind. we received a rather favulous feedbacks regarding the both games we have created certainly, we had plans for the future. so initially, we started as a rather fine business, managing to get enough proffits to meet the costs involved in the process of development. in addition, we had also drawn certain plans for the future about development of new games and continution of old or existing games . with the progressing years, our potential kept falling down, plus we had to face a lot of extreme financial, residential, and social crisis. for sure, that was a period of uncertainty, for all of us in fact, but we couldn't do anything when we find ourselves burried in a really outragious heap of troubles, through wich, it was almost impossible to get out of it. as the time advanced, our managing system kept falling like a soap from wett hands. around the time in mid-2010, the things had totally gone out of hands. so finally, we had to give up, i hope that we will soon get rid of all the crisis that we have to face around. as for the concern, bavisoft may seem to be currently absorved below in the heaps of marshes, but one day, it will surely be on the top audio games development. we know that what exactly a newer audiogamer feels when they are discouraged from trying our games, but in that case, nothing much could be done right at this moment. we are still recovering from all these crisis, but we promise to release chillingham2, and a few more titles in the audiogaming industry, in the later coming years. acknowledgements, the bavisoft team --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Hi Jim, Same here. Other than a few pieces of access software like Jaws, Megadots, and Openbook as well as a braille printer I purchased my first IBM PC and HP scanner out of my own money with some help from my family since it was to be used primarily for college etc. So since it was mine I could do anything i wanted to do with it, and BSVI etc had no say in the matter. I suppose some people feel that if they didn't pay for it themselves BSVI or whomever has the final say how that technology is to be used. I was never under that restriction. On 4/29/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, That's cool that you broke all the rules. But you know some clients, especially maybe newly blind, may be feeling overwhelmed and so when their BSVI counselor told them not to use the new very expensive equipment that they just bought for them for anything other than what it was bought for, they may have been afraid that the counselor would find the games on the computer and take it all back. And then of course there are the clients that just try to get every single bit of stuff that they can suck out of the system. And maybe they didn't even want the stuff and don't care how they use or treat it all. And then maybe there are people like me that BSVI did not buy a single thing for. So since I bought every single bit of access technology that I own, I just make my own rules. TGIF and BFN Jim If you play by the rules, you're gonna miss all the fun. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of audio games
HI Charles, You are right. I can think of a number of cases where games can be very educational. For example, I've never been the worlds greatest speller for some reason. Yet I've found since playing Hangman my spelling has improved. the main reason is you have to be good at guessing and spelling to play that game and if you get it wrong you'll want to see how the word is correctly spelled and remember it. Its a way of practicing spelling that is fun and entertaining. If you are playing a trivia game that might require an entire genre of topics from history, to music, to television, to geography, to whatever you are not only playing a game, but learning as you go. If you get a question like name the longest river in the world and you guess wrong the computer opponent might say what is the Nile and get it right. You suddenly learned something about rivers you didn't know before. Cheers! On 4/28/11, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Games can actually be educational. Get someone playing a game, and they learn keyboard commands and tasks without realizing they are learning what they couldn't grasp before learning the game. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Groom Hunter, Mysteries of the royal wedding.
Hi Dark, What you say makes perfect sense. I think the attitude you just describe could describe a number of Aristocratic families in the United States as well. Not to mention big name celebrities who think they are better than anyone else because he or she is a big name acter, actress, musician, or athlete. Some of them can be quite unplesent to be around socially I've heard. For instance, when Britney Spears came out in the late 90's she marketed herself as a sort of teenage schoolgirl pop star. Dressed up in a nice black skirt, white blouse, and black knee high stockings for the album cover, and the two poneytails. Nice decent photo of her, and a lot of teenage girls worshipped her. In reality time has proven to show that Britney Spears is a complete git. There has been one news story after another of the crazy/stupid things the woman has done. Got drunk and threw beer bottles at the police when they came to take her kids to visit their dad. Got caught driving with a baby on her lap without it being properly secured in a infant car seat. In and out of drug rehab multiple times. Her new tatoo make over where she looks like street trash rather than the clean teenage pop star image she presented in the 90's. Then, of course, her former husband did give an interview to some magazine or other about his relationship with Britney and he basically said she was a witch. She had a very nasty attitude about a lot of things. So what's a person to say about all that? Answer, not much. Probably not someone I'd like to meet in person based on what I've heard. She is someone who has let fame and fortune go to her head. Maybe in the beginning she was what she claimed to be, but not now. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Yes Sean, the cyber queen! ;D. Deffinately someone who has removed all emotion I think. I actually once had a discussion with someone about whether the Queen could pass the turin test ;D. In fairness half of my objection to the royal family is actually based entirely upon there wellbeing. it seems just as unfair that they should be forced into such responsability and insanity just by an accident of birth, as that they get so much privilidge by that same accident. I've met aristocrats, lords and such (durham is that sort of university), and generally they've been horrendously unpleasant people who see themselves as entitled and better than everyone else , in fact the only members of the Aristocracy I have any time for are those who do something else of note, like Professor/lord winston the famous biologist who i've seen on a couple of occasions giving talks, and who I ertainly respect far more as a scientist and academic, which he has worked to achieve than as a lord which he's done nothing for. And in the current financial crysis, when the government is stripping money from everyone they can, to have these people stil supported by the state, not to mention the expense on the blasted wedding is to my mind insane! not to mention unfair in the extreme. On the subject of the royals being gits, i actually had a friend share a tent with prince william in the air training core, and he said he was the most completely unpleasant, self obsessed scumbag you could possibly imagine, then again given the upbringing, childhood and family he has that probably isn't entirely his fault. My objection to the monarchy is also tied up with some of my thoughts about the nastiness of patriotism (I make a point of never standing should the national anthem be played). I actually would like to meet the queen, I would take great pleasure in calling her Mrs. Windser, ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Hi Shaun, Oh, was it now? I hate to burst your bubble, but Jaws was not the first screen reader. Just the only one to gain national attention and claimed they were the first and only one for the blind. this is exactly the kind of ignorance BSVI and other agencies promote. For instance, when Windows 3.0/3.1 came out Slimware managed to put out Windowbridge before Jaws For Windows did. However, the state agencies were still buying Jaws for Dos since apparently ASAP, Vocal-Eyes, Dosbridge, etc didn't matter. When Jaws for Windows came out the state agencies rushed to snap it up even though there was another screen reader available for Windows at that time which was a good year or two further along in development.. If we go back to dos we can see similar things. There were other solutions available before Jaws for Dos, but it really was the best speech access solution at the time and that's why BSVI switched and other agencies started buying it. That's not true any more though. To give you an example of what I mean. Before I lost my vision I can remember using an Apple II-E with an Echovox which was out before Jaws. Granted the thing was a piece of crap, I'm not denying that, but the fact still remains speech access for the blind was there years before JFD was on the scene so to speak. On 4/29/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well It was for a while. Just like norton was the best software. But it all went down hill sort of. No one is the best now in this reguard. all readers have the same features. jaws has been round the longest and is recognised and recomended by most orgs and others as the standard which it is because it was the first. I should mention that I am extremely bias having only met about 3 others like myself in my life well 5. All of these bar 1 were in not the best situations. Though its fair to say the org I run with is still quite good, it has shifted some what from the old days but then everything has to shift and I can't really blame it. Its still not like the rnib but then its all opinion and I have never got anything from them bar books. I have just had bad experiencees with various agencies in the past so I am more to the against point of view than for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Groom Hunter, Mysteries of the royal wedding.
Hi Tom. Celebrity cult status is really a bad thing generally, it just seems to make people unpleasant. I think it's in the hitchhikers guide where douglas adams says the worst thing about power is that anyone who seaks it should never be allows to have it, maybe fame and status are in a lot of ways similar. Actually my objection to Britney spears is also based on music, sinse imho someone getting paid millions for something which has a range of at most a fifth, sounds pretty much like every other thing made, is tied so much in the industry and image and sponsership it's ridiculous is a bad thing in itself, whether they're a git or not, but that's an entire other arguement. The old Us money families I actually would count just as much aristocrats as people over here, despite lacking a word from the state, certainly judging by what I've seen of them myself, and no they don't appear to behave or have any better atitudes. Remind me to remember all this when either writing or singing has made me famous, ;d. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Heck, I remember amigar workbench came with it's own tts and voice back in the very early 90's, and often this was used by amigar developers to add a litle extra atmosphere to their games. there was for instance a public domain space war game called war, which mixed real time spaceship flying stratogy when you fought the enemy, with economic resource management and a litle military map stratogy thrown in. Actually it was quite cool spending money on developing your fleet than physically flying it into battle and dodging your opponents fire, it'd probably make a pretty cool audiogame. The thing that always amused me though, was that all text messages and turn reports were spoken by the very sarcastic, and not good quality amigar work bench tts voice. It was actually rather amusing when playing against the computer and you got an emotionless voice saying the human fleet has been destroyed, I am so sad I think I will commit suicide or I think your joystick is made of concrete as well as lots of other amusing commentss, --- -actually the badness of the synth voice made them funnier. Anyway, that game must've been around 1991 or 92, but the screen reading tech was there. About Hal's Early history and when versions came out i really don't know, sinse I first used a laptop with hal 3.1 and windows 3 in about 1994 at school at the age of 12, but obviously sinse that was Hal version 3, there were previous ones. In fact dolphin are celibrating their 25th aniversary at the moment so presumably they started in 1986! Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage Hi Shaun, Oh, was it now? I hate to burst your bubble, but Jaws was not the first screen reader. Just the only one to gain national attention and claimed they were the first and only one for the blind. this is exactly the kind of ignorance BSVI and other agencies promote. For instance, when Windows 3.0/3.1 came out Slimware managed to put out Windowbridge before Jaws For Windows did. However, the state agencies were still buying Jaws for Dos since apparently ASAP, Vocal-Eyes, Dosbridge, etc didn't matter. When Jaws for Windows came out the state agencies rushed to snap it up even though there was another screen reader available for Windows at that time which was a good year or two further along in development.. If we go back to dos we can see similar things. There were other solutions available before Jaws for Dos, but it really was the best speech access solution at the time and that's why BSVI switched and other agencies started buying it. That's not true any more though. To give you an example of what I mean. Before I lost my vision I can remember using an Apple II-E with an Echovox which was out before Jaws. Granted the thing was a piece of crap, I'm not denying that, but the fact still remains speech access for the blind was there years before JFD was on the scene so to speak. On 4/29/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well It was for a while. Just like norton was the best software. But it all went down hill sort of. No one is the best now in this reguard. all readers have the same features. jaws has been round the longest and is recognised and recomended by most orgs and others as the standard which it is because it was the first. I should mention that I am extremely bias having only met about 3 others like myself in my life well 5. All of these bar 1 were in not the best situations. Though its fair to say the org I run with is still quite good, it has shifted some what from the old days but then everything has to shift and I can't really blame it. Its still not like the rnib but then its all opinion and I have never got anything from them bar books. I have just had bad experiencees with various agencies in the past so I am more to the against point of view than for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Well what really saddens me are those that nver started off on a text based terminal like dos when they were young. If something went wrong you could change a file, reinstall part or all of the system including system files only, and other modules. The registry is heaven and hell. Its heaven because everything is in one place. Its hell for the same reason. If something dies chances are your os has had it. Basically in the old days well forget with windows. If something screws up and usually its quite big, reformatting will fix things. However its all it will do. You can't easily recover bits and pieces like you used to. And most don't even know what the command console is these days. They just run their systems. If it breaks, put in a disk, and reformat and the problem goes away. Fine, but no one is learning. Unless you do linux or take a course or both unless you were born in the early 90s like me or earlier you won't be able to handle things. In some ways I prefured a more modular approach to the system like dos though simple it never really crashed self. If the configs crashed you could skip it and clear it. Ofcause security wise with everything in the same place and all those linked libraries well thats another thing. ANd registry language is like an os in itself. At 05:24 p.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote: Other thing relating to keyboard usage is that since started using computers, in my sighted days long before there was really such a thing as a mouse, and since spent most of my time later on typing code, I never really liked moving hands off the keyboard to use a mouse for something simple, so there are a couple of keyboard shortcuts have always used in windows that some relatively computer literate sighties don't seem to know exist, but I've always used them - simple examples are shift + delete to ignore/bypass recycle bin, and backspace to browse one level up in windows explorer, etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage yeah. Thats a point. The sighted use the mouse when the keyboard is faster. So being blind has some advantages. And we can do crazy things on our devices and can be the only one that knows what its all about. At 08:30 p.m. 28/04/2011, you wrote: A waiter at a restaurant this side once said the following to me after I explained some simple things to him like pouring level indicators, cellphones, our money measuring slide things, general living workarounds, etc.: you're not disabled - you're differently enabled Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage Hi Dark, Well, I think there are always a few that do meet the stereotypical view no matter where you go. I've met more than my share of the kind that want everything done for them etc at summer camp, blind conventions, etc but there are also plenty of people who don't meet this stereotypical view as well. I think a lot of it is just how you, as an individual are raised, and weather or not you were educated in a public school or a specialized school etc. I myself had had several years of useful vision so I was raised during my formative years as a normal child. I would help my dad out working on cars, computers, and other general electronics he would fix for friends at work etc. When I lost my sight my dad didn't go, I have a blind son who is helpless. No, on the contrary he incurraged me to continue helping him work on things in his work shop. Even if it was something as simple as locating the right size socket, rench, or screw driver, he wanted me to know and understand I was anything but helpless. In fact, he put me to work changing transmissions etc at age 17 without any useful vision at all which goes to prove how I had that little extra push some of the more institutionalized blind don't get I think. If you aren't actively incurraged to overcome the blindness thing you'll never quite get passed the I'm helpless mentality. Cheers! On 4/27/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Well Tom, I'm not sure how it is in the states, but over here there is one group of young blind people who do! conform to stomething of a sterriotype. I've noticed that some blind people (especially those who went to specialist schools), are! pretty useless, expect everything to be done for them, only associate with other blind people etc. That aside though I do know what you mean about organizations having specific ideas of blind people. For instance when I asked the rnib about using a
[Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Thomas, There is a third option, which will let you maintain the current keyboard layout. You can first perform a check to see if the ctrl key is pressed, if this is the case then interrupt the speech. This should obviously be a key pressed rather than a key down check, so that it only reports true again if the user releases the key and then pushes it down once more. Then you can check if the w key is pressed, and if this is the case check if the ctrl key is down. This is what I do in my upcoming game to solve this issue and it works very well. Just make strategic use of key down versus key pressed and there won't be a problem. What will end up happening, of course, is that speech is first interrupted when the control key is pressed but then immediately restarted again if w is pressed and control is still down. However speech won't be interrupted again on the next loop iteration because control will just be down, but not newly pressed. similarly the status command won't be restarted over and over again because w has not been newly pressed either. Using a key pressed rather than a key down check would also solve the slight quirk where holding down one of the number keys starts a violent stutter of the weapon name as it gets retriggered on every single loop iteration. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games on a business PC - Re: The importance ofpatronage
Well its sad that all the good people that actually knew what they were doing and that cared have gone. The admin I knew at the educational instatution has left due to budget cuts, he had his own business anyway. The computer and carriers advisers that had creative minds and ideas and really made the organisation I had actually run over the poor blind aspect and become more normal left, or got premoted. Now we have organisations for the poor blind. Its not their fult that its all for poor and super poor blind per say unless they are like well just like it. But I am sad all the good people are gone, even the coms person that got my phone has gone away and the new one runs by procedure only. Basically everything is done as is with no modification. Basically the poor blind get what they get because thats whats on paper. This may sound harsh but whatever has changed the good people that can think outside the square have no wish to work in these places though there is preasure and loads of burnout at least in some places. ANd before I get flamed to a crisp, I tried both ways once with creative people when they were still there and the second with the hum drum people. Its why I don't consolt the orgs, by the book and always by the book. Worse, I know most of it, because I have read the book basically verbatum. Guidelines for the poor blind to be adjusted for whatever is needed. Now its like robots reading procedures and executing them. And I am sad that most won't know or give a frak about it. I'm not sure what to do about this but clearly something needs to be done somehow and somewhere though after I got robots reading stuff at me I have pushed myself mostly out the loop bar esentual services like equipment perchace and library service. At 05:56 p.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote: when i did my degree, my student equipment grant did buy me a laptop. That was the laptop I started playing web rpgs and interactive fiction on which taught me a lot about it. I certainly would've had no compunction about using it for games, afterall it wasn't as if they wanted it back ;D. the laptop which this new one of mine is replacing was actually the one bought in 2005 by the equipment grant for my masters. I wrote all my ma essays on it, and indeed took it to conferences which was what it was for, however as everyone will know I also played games on it too, right up until the point the headphone sockit died over christmas. ddid I refrain from putting games on it? heck no! did I work on it, yes certainly! Did I get the state to buy it for me just! to put games on, certainly not indeed! however it didn't cost them any extra cash at all. Actually it's a real shame the chap who sorted out all my equipment grants actually died recently. He was fantastic, and certainly had no objection to people having fun with computers, his view was the option was available to sited people so why not, so long as it didn't come out of the budgit. It's a great shame though sinse I really think he would've approved of audio games, not the least because he also sorted out teaching and equipment for primary school children, he probably would've deffinately approved fof accessible games as a way of learning just as Charles said. I actually think this is an interesting issue, and probably needs a place in my phd somewhere sinse it's such a general thought, and one of the issues I wish to raise in chapter 4 is the responsability of a disabled person to everyone else which certainly covers this fact. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
well the cane has limitations. Using it is not that bad. Some people are just rood thats all. Ofcause any big crouds and I can't really use any cane like funding events. Yes I can use it for so long but after that not a chance. I don't mind people noticing me being blind. Mostly its a blessing. people move out of my way, they chat to me for a while. They are friendly towards me. On the other hand people will critisise me for being blind or think I am helpless but at least in new zealand that almost never happens. At 06:09 p.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote: I've encountered the atitude that I don't use a cane because it shows I'm blind Actually this came up when i was applying for a guide dog last year (I'm stil on the list). the thing I find odd, is that I use a cane not for anyone else, or for appearence, but just for me! My sense of space (or lack of), frequently means I can't judge the distance of something even if I perceive or see it (and it'd have to be pretty close for me to see it). Looking as though I'm blind? I think i'd look far more stupid falling down a flight of stairs and breaking my nose, and as for danger, - well see the above comment! In terms of other people and taking up more pathway that rather confuses me, sinse certainly with the technique I use the cane tip is only 2 foot in front of my own feet and as wide as my body. There are certainly people, - , lets say larger in gurth than i am who probably take up more space overall ;D. I sometimes run into complaints when i'm out and about, not of me, just of disabled people in general (I think such people would complain equally if there was someone in a wheel chair coming down the street), but usually such people will get a very sharp answer indeed. beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Hi, Besides the fact computers were very expensive in the 80's and 90's PC Dos and MS Dos really didn't get home users interested in computers. It actually forced the user to type something, a valid command like cd docs rather than just pointing and clicking on it. People are, well, sort of lazy, and for some people that was too much effort and to much to remember. IBM did try and resolve this issue starting with PC Dos 5 by introducing a graphical user interface for Dos called the Dos Shell that allowed them to point and click on things. However, computers really didn't become a household item until Windows 3.1 or 3.11 came out and the price of owning a PC came down in price and you could do a lot of stuff by point and clicking on buttons, icons, menus, etc. I admit when I was sighted I prefered a graphical user interface over Dos too. That's until I lost my sight and the commandline environment was more friendly, and pointing and clicking was not an option for me. However, Windows is popular because it makes things easy. You don't have to think about what your doing and can click on the little trash can to remove files from the recycle bin, or click on the little notebook icon to launch Notepad. Cheers! On 4/29/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well what really saddens me are those that nver started off on a text based terminal like dos when they were young. If something went wrong you could change a file, reinstall part or all of the system including system files only, and other modules. The registry is heaven and hell. Its heaven because everything is in one place. Its hell for the same reason. If something dies chances are your os has had it. Basically in the old days well forget with windows. If something screws up and usually its quite big, reformatting will fix things. However its all it will do. You can't easily recover bits and pieces like you used to. And most don't even know what the command console is these days. They just run their systems. If it breaks, put in a disk, and reformat and the problem goes away. Fine, but no one is learning. Unless you do linux or take a course or both unless you were born in the early 90s like me or earlier you won't be able to handle things. In some ways I prefured a more modular approach to the system like dos though simple it never really crashed self. If the configs crashed you could skip it and clear it. Ofcause security wise with everything in the same place and all those linked libraries well thats another thing. ANd registry language is like an os in itself. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Well I have changed since then. Don't think I would play the lazy card unless I was really tired, but then I know better now. At 06:22 p.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote: That's really quite bad Sean, and also probably not ultimately in your best interests, sinse I've found if you show yourself to be incapable people will (understandably), treat you as such, give no weight to your opinions, and not really reguard you as a person. last night I was at a lecture in the department and afterwards I went for a drink with people. yes, if i'd played the pathetic card I probably could've got someone to get me a chair, and probably a drink too, but would they have taken any comments I had on the paper seriously? hell no! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Off hand, what about the `/~ key for interrupt - unless you've already got it mapped to something else? Stay well Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
I'm less of a fan of shifting the ctrl modifyers, sinse we're generally used to them as function or control commands, though I'm not %100 tied to this and could move over to using shift of course. Given the choice though I do have a miner preference for another key to interupt speech and cutscenes. i'd personally suggest either space bar or one of the f keys. i would suggest escape sinse it's often a common key for interupting document read or aborting other functions in a screen reader, but obviously that is used for exiting the game. That would be my preference, space bar or another f key for interupt rather than moving the ctrl modifyer, though if it gets done that way I'm not going to go ballistic. Beware the Grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
I got this from an hj interview cast released. All the big projects are mentioned the smaller ones were mentioned as not being that good. I wander if there is or should be a history of screenreaders since noone really knows what came first. jaws was the first big reader. But all the smaller ones are forgotten. keynote was the only reader for dos, mastertouch was big. But the rest I never heard about. At 11:06 p.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Oh, was it now? I hate to burst your bubble, but Jaws was not the first screen reader. Just the only one to gain national attention and claimed they were the first and only one for the blind. this is exactly the kind of ignorance BSVI and other agencies promote. For instance, when Windows 3.0/3.1 came out Slimware managed to put out Windowbridge before Jaws For Windows did. However, the state agencies were still buying Jaws for Dos since apparently ASAP, Vocal-Eyes, Dosbridge, etc didn't matter. When Jaws for Windows came out the state agencies rushed to snap it up even though there was another screen reader available for Windows at that time which was a good year or two further along in development.. If we go back to dos we can see similar things. There were other solutions available before Jaws for Dos, but it really was the best speech access solution at the time and that's why BSVI switched and other agencies started buying it. That's not true any more though. To give you an example of what I mean. Before I lost my vision I can remember using an Apple II-E with an Echovox which was out before Jaws. Granted the thing was a piece of crap, I'm not denying that, but the fact still remains speech access for the blind was there years before JFD was on the scene so to speak. On 4/29/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well It was for a while. Just like norton was the best software. But it all went down hill sort of. No one is the best now in this reguard. all readers have the same features. jaws has been round the longest and is recognised and recomended by most orgs and others as the standard which it is because it was the first. I should mention that I am extremely bias having only met about 3 others like myself in my life well 5. All of these bar 1 were in not the best situations. Though its fair to say the org I run with is still quite good, it has shifted some what from the old days but then everything has to shift and I can't really blame it. Its still not like the rnib but then its all opinion and I have never got anything from them bar books. I have just had bad experiencees with various agencies in the past so I am more to the against point of view than for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
well a game like that would rock. I wouldn't mind something like that. At 11:17 p.m. 29/04/2011, you wrote: Heck, I remember amigar workbench came with it's own tts and voice back in the very early 90's, and often this was used by amigar developers to add a litle extra atmosphere to their games. there was for instance a public domain space war game called war, which mixed real time spaceship flying stratogy when you fought the enemy, with economic resource management and a litle military map stratogy thrown in. Actually it was quite cool spending money on developing your fleet than physically flying it into battle and dodging your opponents fire, it'd probably make a pretty cool audiogame. The thing that always amused me though, was that all text messages and turn reports were spoken by the very sarcastic, and not good quality amigar work bench tts voice. It was actually rather amusing when playing against the computer and you got an emotionless voice saying the human fleet has been destroyed, I am so sad I think I will commit suicide or I think your joystick is made of concrete as well as lots of other amusing commentss, --- -actually the badness of the synth voice made them funnier. Anyway, that game must've been around 1991 or 92, but the screen reading tech was there. About Hal's Early history and when versions came out i really don't know, sinse I first used a laptop with hal 3.1 and windows 3 in about 1994 at school at the age of 12, but obviously sinse that was Hal version 3, there were previous ones. In fact dolphin are celibrating their 25th aniversary at the moment so presumably they started in 1986! Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage Hi Shaun, Oh, was it now? I hate to burst your bubble, but Jaws was not the first screen reader. Just the only one to gain national attention and claimed they were the first and only one for the blind. this is exactly the kind of ignorance BSVI and other agencies promote. For instance, when Windows 3.0/3.1 came out Slimware managed to put out Windowbridge before Jaws For Windows did. However, the state agencies were still buying Jaws for Dos since apparently ASAP, Vocal-Eyes, Dosbridge, etc didn't matter. When Jaws for Windows came out the state agencies rushed to snap it up even though there was another screen reader available for Windows at that time which was a good year or two further along in development.. If we go back to dos we can see similar things. There were other solutions available before Jaws for Dos, but it really was the best speech access solution at the time and that's why BSVI switched and other agencies started buying it. That's not true any more though. To give you an example of what I mean. Before I lost my vision I can remember using an Apple II-E with an Echovox which was out before Jaws. Granted the thing was a piece of crap, I'm not denying that, but the fact still remains speech access for the blind was there years before JFD was on the scene so to speak. On 4/29/11, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well It was for a while. Just like norton was the best software. But it all went down hill sort of. No one is the best now in this reguard. all readers have the same features. jaws has been round the longest and is recognised and recomended by most orgs and others as the standard which it is because it was the first. I should mention that I am extremely bias having only met about 3 others like myself in my life well 5. All of these bar 1 were in not the best situations. Though its fair to say the org I run with is still quite good, it has shifted some what from the old days but then everything has to shift and I can't really blame it. Its still not like the rnib but then its all opinion and I have never got anything from them bar books. I have just had bad experiencees with various agencies in the past so I am more to the against point of view than for. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi philip, Thanks. That's a good suggestion. Although that means a major rewrite of the G3D input code. At least for Windows. I'm not really willing to put that many hours into bug fixes right now. As I explained on the USA Games list I'm looking for quick and simple solutions to bugs so I can get MOTA 1.0 out of the door. I can worry about rewriting input handling at some other point. I've already got my hands full completing the Windows version let alone finish updating the Linux version of the G3D engine and releasing a cross-platform version of MOTA. Cheers! On 4/29/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Thomas, There is a third option, which will let you maintain the current keyboard layout. You can first perform a check to see if the ctrl key is pressed, if this is the case then interrupt the speech. This should obviously be a key pressed rather than a key down check, so that it only reports true again if the user releases the key and then pushes it down once more. Then you can check if the w key is pressed, and if this is the case check if the ctrl key is down. This is what I do in my upcoming game to solve this issue and it works very well. Just make strategic use of key down versus key pressed and there won't be a problem. What will end up happening, of course, is that speech is first interrupted when the control key is pressed but then immediately restarted again if w is pressed and control is still down. However speech won't be interrupted again on the next loop iteration because control will just be down, but not newly pressed. similarly the status command won't be restarted over and over again because w has not been newly pressed either. Using a key pressed rather than a key down check would also solve the slight quirk where holding down one of the number keys starts a violent stutter of the weapon name as it gets retriggered on every single loop iteration. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi, Well, using the spacebar in this case is not a good idea. That' is of course the fire key. Although, I love your suggestion to use the escape key. I can always remap quit game to q. That might throw a few people at first, but I can think of a number of games where q brings up a quit prompt. Still I'll see what everyone else has to say first. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I'm less of a fan of shifting the ctrl modifyers, sinse we're generally used to them as function or control commands, though I'm not %100 tied to this and could move over to using shift of course. Given the choice though I do have a miner preference for another key to interupt speech and cutscenes. i'd personally suggest either space bar or one of the f keys. i would suggest escape sinse it's often a common key for interupting document read or aborting other functions in a screen reader, but obviously that is used for exiting the game. That would be my preference, space bar or another f key for interupt rather than moving the ctrl modifyer, though if it gets done that way I'm not going to go ballistic. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Interestingly enough this came up recently. my mum asked someone she knows a computer related question of how to setup an E-mail account, on the basis that this person always uses her pc for chatting on msn and buying stuff online so she should know. the friend knew nothing because all she knew how to do was open something by point and click and type in the boxes. While I was a litle too young to get into command line options, after it was proved to me that computers could do more than just word process and could be fun, I actually started trying stuff out just to see what certain items and such did, as well as trying Hal commands. while I'd not claime to be a wizard at these things, i do at least know enough to for instance try a couple of things if something goes wrong and be able to fix basic problems now and again, such as the other day when my laptop decided to mute itself. This however does not seem to be the norm at all, people don't evenseem to know what certin things are called or where they are and the same goes for training. It really bothers me that when my mum was taught it skills, she was taught just to open ms word. She actually didn't even know what a folder was and that my documents was a folder in windows, rather she thought she could only get there by using word. This got even worse when she wanted to start using a digital camera and storing pictures on her hard drive sinse she had no idea about basic file moving skills at all as all she'd been taught to do was open word, none of actually what was going on undernieth. On one ocasion on the phone to bt who provide my internet, when trying to fix connection problems, they were telling me to click on a certain icon. i asked if they meant network connections, and they didn't know, sinse they didn't know what the icon was called only what it did, much less that there are other ways to getting to that particular page of settings than clicking the desktop icon. A shame really, especially when things go wrong. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
Yes you can just change language in the main menu! Cheers, Jorge Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 4/29/2011 11:56 AM, william lomas wrote: as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neilharmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list'gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Thomas, I am not part of the USA Games mailing list so didn't see that message, I only saw this request for suggestions and figured I'd throw my own in with the rest. Smile. Of course I don't know how your code is structured so my comments may be completely off, but it is actually very simple to put a key pressed function into place on top of key down. You just have a separate array with all keys, where each array entry corresponds to a state of the key. In my implementation 0 means not down before, 1 means just pushed down and 2 means already down. So when key_pressed is called in BGT, for instance, it simply calls key_down and updates the state in the second array accordingly. Again, of course I have no clue how your code is structure so if this suggestion still would require major rewriting, just ignore it and change the keyboard layout based on what you feel is best and what other people on the list may want. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: phi...@blastbay.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi philip, Thanks. That's a good suggestion. Although that means a major rewrite of the G3D input code. At least for Windows. I'm not really willing to put that many hours into bug fixes right now. As I explained on the USA Games list I'm looking for quick and simple solutions to bugs so I can get MOTA 1.0 out of the door. I can worry about rewriting input handling at some other point. I've already got my hands full completing the Windows version let alone finish updating the Linux version of the G3D engine and releasing a cross-platform version of MOTA. Cheers! On 4/29/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Thomas, There is a third option, which will let you maintain the current keyboard layout. You can first perform a check to see if the ctrl key is pressed, if this is the case then interrupt the speech. This should obviously be a key pressed rather than a key down check, so that it only reports true again if the user releases the key and then pushes it down once more. Then you can check if the w key is pressed, and if this is the case check if the ctrl key is down. This is what I do in my upcoming game to solve this issue and it works very well. Just make strategic use of key down versus key pressed and there won't be a problem. What will end up happening, of course, is that speech is first interrupted when the control key is pressed but then immediately restarted again if w is pressed and control is still down. However speech won't be interrupted again on the next loop iteration because control will just be down, but not newly pressed. similarly the status command won't be restarted over and over again because w has not been newly pressed either. Using a key pressed rather than a key down check would also solve the slight quirk where holding down one of the number keys starts a violent stutter of the weapon name as it gets retriggered on every single loop iteration. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi, Currently I have it mapped to control since that's usually what screen readers use to silence speech. Thing is I've got this little technical quark where it shuts up any status command asigned to any control+letter combo. Reasigning it to something else is the obvious solution for that problem, but there is no key that stands out in my mind as an obvious alternative. Dark suggested the escape key which means remapping exit/quit to q and shuffling things slightly. On 4/29/11, Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za wrote: Off hand, what about the `/~ key for interrupt - unless you've already got it mapped to something else? Stay well Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Philip, Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.I'm definitely looking for a more effective way to handle this as I've never quite got the hang of DirectInput's keyboard handling. I've found SDL much more easy to do what I want to do as its much more self-explanitory and simple. On 4/29/11, Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com wrote: Hi Thomas, I am not part of the USA Games mailing list so didn't see that message, I only saw this request for suggestions and figured I'd throw my own in with the rest. Smile. Of course I don't know how your code is structured so my comments may be completely off, but it is actually very simple to put a key pressed function into place on top of key down. You just have a separate array with all keys, where each array entry corresponds to a state of the key. In my implementation 0 means not down before, 1 means just pushed down and 2 means already down. So when key_pressed is called in BGT, for instance, it simply calls key_down and updates the state in the second array accordingly. Again, of course I have no clue how your code is structure so if this suggestion still would require major rewriting, just ignore it and change the keyboard layout based on what you feel is best and what other people on the list may want. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
All right. The public link is below. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4231099/quentinc-playroom-install.exe -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 22:17 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? Better post it for anyone who might want it. Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Know what you mean. I used to install games on the college computers when I was still there, even though I'd already heard that playing games was forbidden in the library. No one took them off though, which was kind of cool. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 28 April 2011 23:16 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage Hi Jim, Interesting. That could always be. Perhaps some rehab counselors have some opinion that their clients should not put games on their machines. That's an attitude that is rediculous since they aren't hurting anything by being there, and as has been stated that doesn't stop the client from scanning books, using Office, or anything else that needs to get done for college, work, etc. Of course, if my counselor had told me something like that I'd have gone and done it anyway. My opinion use to be rules are made for breaking, and I broke a lot of them growing up. Lol! On 4/28/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I have talked with people who told me that they had been told that since BSVI bought their computer that they were not allowed to put games on it. So it may not be the individuals but some of the rehab people telling them such things. But I do know of other rehab councilors that put my games on the clients computers. BFN Jim Don't ever argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] No fighting games.
Ah, Super egg hunt or the great toy robbary. saygilar sevgiler. - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] No fighting games. How about l-works's super egg hunt. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] No fighting games. Hi Imbar, Actually, you misunderstood my comments about Srith. The game I was talking about Sryth, always did have some fighting/combat in it, but there was a lot of exploration as well to make up for the violence and combat. However, the most recent additions to the game are almost exclusively combat/fighting oriented with very little to do with any exploration or puzzle solving. This is what I don't like about the recent versions of the game. Anyway, if you want some games that don't have a lot of violence in them you might want to try Packman Talks and Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry by PCS Games. PCS Games also has a game called Super Dog's Bone Hunt. All of these games seemed to be aimed towards children to young adult without hacking, slashing, or shooting your way through the games. In Packman you mainly have to avoid the ghosts, and in Sarah you can stun but not kill the ghosts with Sarah's magic wand. I think this might be something you are looking for. Cheers! On 4/25/11, Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il wrote: Hi, Are there any action or adventure games without fighting? I am asking following Thomas's comments about a game that used to be without combat and now is getting more and more violent. Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] how to stop the whining: was Re: Derek the Claric
Is it extent or something like that? saygilar sevgiler. - Original Message - From: The Addictor kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 AM Subject: [Audyssey] how to stop the whining: was Re: Derek the Claric Well, you know how to stop all that whining and complaining? Simple. Just abandon your game. Then you'll hear how great and wonderful it is. As much as I like Self District for example, it's nothing compared to current projects such as MOTA or even Battle Zone--but since it's gone people want it bad. I remember the big deal people were making about Science Invasion. Then I played it and thought how much better that new game is--can't remember its name, but it has a dog that can guide you to different places, and everything is round--and no doors. You don't hear that game mentioned on list hardly at all--people too busy praising and looking for Science Invasion. Of course, I'm not really suggestion that developers abandon their games, I'm just being sarcastic. Have to point that out though or we'll hear complaints about this post. Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com - Original Message - From: Angela Lerma amle...@roadrunner.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Derek the Claric I had no trouble at all. I'm so tired of everybody whining and complaining like babies on this list. People go to lots of trouble to create games and all everyone on here does id complain and whine and gripe about this and that. Nobody is ever happy. Just for you game developers out there, I say keep up the great work and just ignore all the babies and whiners. Angela - Original Message - From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Derek the Claric I aggree. I use to have an acount on 4 shared and I hated it. - Original Message - From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Derek the Claric This game really needs a better download site. IT took me for ever to find the download link and I almost gave up. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:54 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Derek the Claric Hi Folks, Searching the forum for a game that is miss-spelled is no fun. it is, Airik the Cleric, It also has a home page at, http://pawlosoft.webs.com/airikthecleric.htm Home of Airik the Cleric, the Demo version. A new Audio Adventure game series! Featuring an all new real-time navigation and platforming system. As Airik, you can collect treasures, fight enemies and earn abilities. The game is entirely self read, and the characters are easily identifiable. This game is one hundred percent accessible to visually impaired gamers. The game allows visually impaired gamers the chance to play closely to the elements of a 3D platform game with the four way navigation of a classic RPG. Airik is a young Cleric Apprentice. He lives in a small village on the outskirts of the great Sky Kingdom. He wishes more than anything to become a real Cleric. With the help of his robot friend Scout, Airik must fight off a group of mysterious adversaries and reclaim the items which they stole. Only Airik can save the people from the darkness that has befallen them and unearth the reason why it must be him. Is there any hope? Perhaps, if Airik can find a way to keep Scout from opening his big mouth and talking up a storm at every corner. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. _ NOD32 EMON 6065 (20110423) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com _ NOD32 EMON 6065 (20110423) information _ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Greetings Thomas. You might consider assigning the grave accent to interrupt speech. It's a key that's rarely used in games, and has the merit of being near your operating hand, and is readily accessible. The grave accent key, for example, is at the left-hand corner of most keyboards, clearly delineated from the escape key. It's also not that far of a reach from the control key, so you could still keep your thumb on the control or shift key while reaching up to silence speech. Jacob suggested using the slash, but that one is surrounded by a multitude of keys, making it less accessible (even for the right hand. Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Tom I'd go for the first option, the control key seems to be a universil shut-up key for speach in both windows and audio games, so it might be easier for people if it's kept like that. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
HI Dark, As someone who does tech support for a living I can say I've been their done that. I hate to sound critical or negative about my clients as they pay me to help them with things, but your points are very valid ones. Since the introduction of graphical operating systems like Windows the general skill level of the average user is abismal. they don't know what something is called half the time and only know how to get their by clicking on a certain icon, and you have to describe it to them. Which of course changes from version to version of Windows and desktop theme to desktop theme. So its pretty hard for me as a blind user who can't see all that eye candy to help them. I usually have to make them read the text on the icon so they click on the right thing. Usually, as you pointed out, it is basic things like dragging and dropping files, cutting and pasting documents from folder to folder, that these people lack. I think in many cases they just purchased their computer from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Office Max, whatever turned it on and started pointing and clicking without any idea what in Hades they were doing. So as a result of any kind of training they just never figured out that the way they are using their computer is pretty limited and amateurish. Unlike Dos where you had to read a starters manual to do anything Windows lets them feel like they are doing something by clicking on icons and getting immediate results. What's this little notepad icon do? Oh, I can write text here. What's this little picture of a music cd do? Oh, I can play music cds with this program. What's this picture of a deck of cards do? Oh, its a game of Solitaire. That's how they find things out, and its limited as it doesn't really tell them how their computer works or gives them any real experience using all its functionality. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Interestingly enough this came up recently. my mum asked someone she knows a computer related question of how to setup an E-mail account, on the basis that this person always uses her pc for chatting on msn and buying stuff online so she should know. the friend knew nothing because all she knew how to do was open something by point and click and type in the boxes. While I was a litle too young to get into command line options, after it was proved to me that computers could do more than just word process and could be fun, I actually started trying stuff out just to see what certain items and such did, as well as trying Hal commands. while I'd not claime to be a wizard at these things, i do at least know enough to for instance try a couple of things if something goes wrong and be able to fix basic problems now and again, such as the other day when my laptop decided to mute itself. This however does not seem to be the norm at all, people don't evenseem to know what certin things are called or where they are and the same goes for training. It really bothers me that when my mum was taught it skills, she was taught just to open ms word. She actually didn't even know what a folder was and that my documents was a folder in windows, rather she thought she could only get there by using word. This got even worse when she wanted to start using a digital camera and storing pictures on her hard drive sinse she had no idea about basic file moving skills at all as all she'd been taught to do was open word, none of actually what was going on undernieth. On one ocasion on the phone to bt who provide my internet, when trying to fix connection problems, they were telling me to click on a certain icon. i asked if they meant network connections, and they didn't know, sinse they didn't know what the icon was called only what it did, much less that there are other ways to getting to that particular page of settings than clicking the desktop icon. A shame really, especially when things go wrong. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
I seem to remember the original Prince of Persia was one such game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi, Well, using the spacebar in this case is not a good idea. That' is of course the fire key. Although, I love your suggestion to use the escape key. I can always remap quit game to q. That might throw a few people at first, but I can think of a number of games where q brings up a quit prompt. Still I'll see what everyone else has to say first. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I'm less of a fan of shifting the ctrl modifyers, sinse we're generally used to them as function or control commands, though I'm not %100 tied to this and could move over to using shift of course. Given the choice though I do have a miner preference for another key to interupt speech and cutscenes. i'd personally suggest either space bar or one of the f keys. i would suggest escape sinse it's often a common key for interupting document read or aborting other functions in a screen reader, but obviously that is used for exiting the game. That would be my preference, space bar or another f key for interupt rather than moving the ctrl modifyer, though if it gets done that way I'm not going to go ballistic. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Bryan, Yeah, it was. Many of the classic Dos games used q for quit. Many Linux games use q or control+q for quit so there is certainly plenty of history for using that as a quit key. On 4/29/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I seem to remember the original Prince of Persia was one such game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] No fighting games.
Hi Bryan, Hmm...Well, as soon as I have a little free spending cash I'll see about renewing my Sryth subscription. At least its Linux compatible. Grin. Cheers! On 4/26/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Yeah. I can understand that. But the Mad's probably the most enjoyable adventure I've played. It includes its fair share of fighting but the puzzles are quite enjoyable. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
That's right on both cases. People could go in and use their computers. I think there were 8 of them. And, yes, it was insane. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage Yet the center was open pon saturdays and people came to use their computers there? very insane! Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage I was asked to try to get some blind people who frequently visited a center for the blind interested in audio games. I agreed. So I took some games, copied onto a CD, to the center and was going to install them onto their computers that the people were allowed to use during the week and on Saturdays. I was told that I could not do that because these were computers for business! use! only! I asked how these people are going to get interested in games that they cannot try out? The answer was, Well, don't you have them on your computer? You could bring your computer here, play the games while explaining what you're doing, then invite them to your house instead of having them come here on a Saturday, couldn't you? My answer, in great disgust, was a flat! out! no! It really made me disgusted, because the man that ran the center was totally blind himself. He would not install any games on his computer, either, because it, too was supposedly for business only. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage Hi Thomas, I have talked with people who told me that they had been told that since BSVI bought their computer that they were not allowed to put games on it. So it may not be the individuals but some of the rehab people telling them such things. But I do know of other rehab councilors that put my games on the clients computers. BFN Jim Don't ever argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
I only actually meant the same key you just suggested, but since it's either the ` or the ~ key depending on your use of it (shift key changes it off hand) that's why I put a slash inbetween the two possible names for it - didn't think of what I was thereby suggesting...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Kai kaixi...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Greetings Thomas. You might consider assigning the grave accent to interrupt speech. It's a key that's rarely used in games, and has the merit of being near your operating hand, and is readily accessible. The grave accent key, for example, is at the left-hand corner of most keyboards, clearly delineated from the escape key. It's also not that far of a reach from the control key, so you could still keep your thumb on the control or shift key while reaching up to silence speech. Jacob suggested using the slash, but that one is surrounded by a multitude of keys, making it less accessible (even for the right hand. Kai --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importance of patronage
I have known people that would not use a cane or a dog because it made them, heh heh heh, look blind? One of them used to walk past a gas station on a regular basis, and he got a bit side tracked one day and fell into a grease pit. A guy came running out of the station yelling, Hey! Are you OK? After being assured that he was, the guy then asked, Why the heck, although he used another word, don't you use a dog or a cane? The guy told him that it would draw attention to the fact that he was blind. The response? Oh. In that case, are you bombed? What are you doing in that grease pit? What are you, blind or something? To me, these kind of people should receive a Darwin award after their importance of appearance has killed them. I'm not ashamed of my blindness. The fact is, I'm blind. I'm mobile. That's what Carolina's for. She's a good German Shepherd Guide Dog. I don't care if people notice that I'm blind, because it's a fact. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage I've encountered the atitude that I don't use a cane because it shows I'm blind Actually this came up when i was applying for a guide dog last year (I'm stil on the list). the thing I find odd, is that I use a cane not for anyone else, or for appearence, but just for me! My sense of space (or lack of), frequently means I can't judge the distance of something even if I perceive or see it (and it'd have to be pretty close for me to see it). Looking as though I'm blind? I think i'd look far more stupid falling down a flight of stairs and breaking my nose, and as for danger, - well see the above comment! In terms of other people and taking up more pathway that rather confuses me, sinse certainly with the technique I use the cane tip is only 2 foot in front of my own feet and as wide as my body. There are certainly people, - , lets say larger in gurth than i am who probably take up more space overall ;D. I sometimes run into complaints when i'm out and about, not of me, just of disabled people in general (I think such people would complain equally if there was someone in a wheel chair coming down the street), but usually such people will get a very sharp answer indeed. beware the grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importance ofpatronage
Ah yes, the Darwin awards. Those who improve our gene pool by removing themselves from it. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:12 AM Subject: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importance ofpatronage I have known people that would not use a cane or a dog because it made them, heh heh heh, look blind? One of them used to walk past a gas station on a regular basis, and he got a bit side tracked one day and fell into a grease pit. A guy came running out of the station yelling, Hey! Are you OK? After being assured that he was, the guy then asked, Why the heck, although he used another word, don't you use a dog or a cane? The guy told him that it would draw attention to the fact that he was blind. The response? Oh. In that case, are you bombed? What are you doing in that grease pit? What are you, blind or something? To me, these kind of people should receive a Darwin award after their importance of appearance has killed them. I'm not ashamed of my blindness. The fact is, I'm blind. I'm mobile. That's what Carolina's for. She's a good German Shepherd Guide Dog. I don't care if people notice that I'm blind, because it's a fact. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage I've encountered the atitude that I don't use a cane because it shows I'm blind Actually this came up when i was applying for a guide dog last year (I'm stil on the list). the thing I find odd, is that I use a cane not for anyone else, or for appearence, but just for me! My sense of space (or lack of), frequently means I can't judge the distance of something even if I perceive or see it (and it'd have to be pretty close for me to see it). Looking as though I'm blind? I think i'd look far more stupid falling down a flight of stairs and breaking my nose, and as for danger, - well see the above comment! In terms of other people and taking up more pathway that rather confuses me, sinse certainly with the technique I use the cane tip is only 2 foot in front of my own feet and as wide as my body. There are certainly people, - , lets say larger in gurth than i am who probably take up more space overall ;D. I sometimes run into complaints when i'm out and about, not of me, just of disabled people in general (I think such people would complain equally if there was someone in a wheel chair coming down the street), but usually such people will get a very sharp answer indeed. beware the grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importance of patronage
Hi exactly i agree with you on that one. at the end of the day if you need a aid weather it is a cane or a dog and it gives you mobility then you should use it to it's potential. if your blind you need something to help you get around not using a cane or a dog is just putting your self in a more vonrable possission. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importance ofpatronage
I'm one of those who also refuses to try hide it as such - I won't necessarily wear it in public, except to the right type of fancy dress party, but since my primary cane is electric blue, I have a matching darth vader helmet, after quite a few kids kept asking where I got the light saber from, and I also have braille tattoos on forearms, which is partly a statement, but also lets me actually show sighties what braille looks like. The other joke relating to the blue cane, and the helmet is my version of the well known darth vader statement (Luke, I am your father): Look, I can see no farther! I am who I am - take it or leave me the heck alone! smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importance ofpatronage I have known people that would not use a cane or a dog because it made them, heh heh heh, look blind? One of them used to walk past a gas station on a regular basis, and he got a bit side tracked one day and fell into a grease pit. A guy came running out of the station yelling, Hey! Are you OK? After being assured that he was, the guy then asked, Why the heck, although he used another word, don't you use a dog or a cane? The guy told him that it would draw attention to the fact that he was blind. The response? Oh. In that case, are you bombed? What are you doing in that grease pit? What are you, blind or something? To me, these kind of people should receive a Darwin award after their importance of appearance has killed them. I'm not ashamed of my blindness. The fact is, I'm blind. I'm mobile. That's what Carolina's for. She's a good German Shepherd Guide Dog. I don't care if people notice that I'm blind, because it's a fact. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage I've encountered the atitude that I don't use a cane because it shows I'm blind Actually this came up when i was applying for a guide dog last year (I'm stil on the list). the thing I find odd, is that I use a cane not for anyone else, or for appearence, but just for me! My sense of space (or lack of), frequently means I can't judge the distance of something even if I perceive or see it (and it'd have to be pretty close for me to see it). Looking as though I'm blind? I think i'd look far more stupid falling down a flight of stairs and breaking my nose, and as for danger, - well see the above comment! In terms of other people and taking up more pathway that rather confuses me, sinse certainly with the technique I use the cane tip is only 2 foot in front of my own feet and as wide as my body. There are certainly people, - , lets say larger in gurth than i am who probably take up more space overall ;D. I sometimes run into complaints when i'm out and about, not of me, just of disabled people in general (I think such people would complain equally if there was someone in a wheel chair coming down the street), but usually such people will get a very sharp answer indeed. beware the grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Thomas, I also prefer escape to silence speech, and q to quit. Phil - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi Bryan, Yeah, it was. Many of the classic Dos games used q for quit. Many Linux games use q or control+q for quit so there is certainly plenty of history for using that as a quit key. On 4/29/11, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: I seem to remember the original Prince of Persia was one such game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3604 - Release Date: 04/29/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
hi thomas, I have read through this thread and I personally wouldn't use the slash or grave key to interrupt speech. Escape, however, would be ok. Another option would be alt, that's what sound rts uses and you can get used to it quickly enough. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
I like the idea of using the escape key to interrupt speech. To quit the game, using the q makes sense. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi, Well, using the spacebar in this case is not a good idea. That' is of course the fire key. Although, I love your suggestion to use the escape key. I can always remap quit game to q. That might throw a few people at first, but I can think of a number of games where q brings up a quit prompt. Still I'll see what everyone else has to say first. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: I'm less of a fan of shifting the ctrl modifyers, sinse we're generally used to them as function or control commands, though I'm not %100 tied to this and could move over to using shift of course. Given the choice though I do have a miner preference for another key to interupt speech and cutscenes. i'd personally suggest either space bar or one of the f keys. i would suggest escape sinse it's often a common key for interupting document read or aborting other functions in a screen reader, but obviously that is used for exiting the game. That would be my preference, space bar or another f key for interupt rather than moving the ctrl modifyer, though if it gets done that way I'm not going to go ballistic. Beware the Grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
You just hit on the number one way Microsoft got so big with the pc. They made it moron proof by just click. I am currently training someone with sight on the computer. They are not doing to bad. I did get them to start thinking that just because the info shows up on the browser it is still not on the computer. Now if I could only get this mouser not to be so right click happy. At 08:38 AM 4/29/2011, you wrote: HI Dark, As someone who does tech support for a living I can say I've been their done that. I hate to sound critical or negative about my clients as they pay me to help them with things, but your points are very valid ones. Since the introduction of graphical operating systems like Windows the general skill level of the average user is abismal. they don't know what something is called half the time and only know how to get their by clicking on a certain icon, and you have to describe it to them. Which of course changes from version to version of Windows and desktop theme to desktop theme. So its pretty hard for me as a blind user who can't see all that eye candy to help them. I usually have to make them read the text on the icon so they click on the right thing. Usually, as you pointed out, it is basic things like dragging and dropping files, cutting and pasting documents from folder to folder, that these people lack. I think in many cases they just purchased their computer from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Office Max, whatever turned it on and started pointing and clicking without any idea what in Hades they were doing. So as a result of any kind of training they just never figured out that the way they are using their computer is pretty limited and amateurish. Unlike Dos where you had to read a starters manual to do anything Windows lets them feel like they are doing something by clicking on icons and getting immediate results. What's this little notepad icon do? Oh, I can write text here. What's this little picture of a music cd do? Oh, I can play music cds with this program. What's this picture of a deck of cards do? Oh, its a game of Solitaire. That's how they find things out, and its limited as it doesn't really tell them how their computer works or gives them any real experience using all its functionality. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Interestingly enough this came up recently. my mum asked someone she knows a computer related question of how to setup an E-mail account, on the basis that this person always uses her pc for chatting on msn and buying stuff online so she should know. the friend knew nothing because all she knew how to do was open something by point and click and type in the boxes. While I was a litle too young to get into command line options, after it was proved to me that computers could do more than just word process and could be fun, I actually started trying stuff out just to see what certain items and such did, as well as trying Hal commands. while I'd not claime to be a wizard at these things, i do at least know enough to for instance try a couple of things if something goes wrong and be able to fix basic problems now and again, such as the other day when my laptop decided to mute itself. This however does not seem to be the norm at all, people don't evenseem to know what certin things are called or where they are and the same goes for training. It really bothers me that when my mum was taught it skills, she was taught just to open ms word. She actually didn't even know what a folder was and that my documents was a folder in windows, rather she thought she could only get there by using word. This got even worse when she wanted to start using a digital camera and storing pictures on her hard drive sinse she had no idea about basic file moving skills at all as all she'd been taught to do was open word, none of actually what was going on undernieth. On one ocasion on the phone to bt who provide my internet, when trying to fix connection problems, they were telling me to click on a certain icon. i asked if they meant network connections, and they didn't know, sinse they didn't know what the icon was called only what it did, much less that there are other ways to getting to that particular page of settings than clicking the desktop icon. A shame really, especially when things go wrong. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
I created a new account and I got the validation email but when I click on the email link it does not open. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importance of patronage
Even though you have a impairment. Tools made to enhance and make life and mobility a little better. Should always be used or your just another episode on 1000 ways to die! At 09:12 AM 4/29/2011, you wrote: I have known people that would not use a cane or a dog because it made them, heh heh heh, look blind? One of them used to walk past a gas station on a regular basis, and he got a bit side tracked one day and fell into a grease pit. A guy came running out of the station yelling, Hey! Are you OK? After being assured that he was, the guy then asked, Why the heck, although he used another word, don't you use a dog or a cane? The guy told him that it would draw attention to the fact that he was blind. The response? Oh. In that case, are you bombed? What are you doing in that grease pit? What are you, blind or something? To me, these kind of people should receive a Darwin award after their importance of appearance has killed them. I'm not ashamed of my blindness. The fact is, I'm blind. I'm mobile. That's what Carolina's for. She's a good German Shepherd Guide Dog. I don't care if people notice that I'm blind, because it's a fact. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage I've encountered the atitude that I don't use a cane because it shows I'm blind Actually this came up when i was applying for a guide dog last year (I'm stil on the list). the thing I find odd, is that I use a cane not for anyone else, or for appearence, but just for me! My sense of space (or lack of), frequently means I can't judge the distance of something even if I perceive or see it (and it'd have to be pretty close for me to see it). Looking as though I'm blind? I think i'd look far more stupid falling down a flight of stairs and breaking my nose, and as for danger, - well see the above comment! In terms of other people and taking up more pathway that rather confuses me, sinse certainly with the technique I use the cane tip is only 2 foot in front of my own feet and as wide as my body. There are certainly people, - , lets say larger in gurth than i am who probably take up more space overall ;D. I sometimes run into complaints when i'm out and about, not of me, just of disabled people in general (I think such people would complain equally if there was someone in a wheel chair coming down the street), but usually such people will get a very sharp answer indeed. beware the grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Tim trouble Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. --Sam Brown Blindeudora list owner. To subscribe or info: http://www.freelists.org/webpage/blindeudora --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator: Off Topic Posts
HI all, Ok, I think its time the moderators step in. I know we all have had fun talking about this that and the other thing, but really guys things are starting to get way way off topic. So let's please get back to gaming and close down all the off topic threads. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi, Hmmm...It ssounds like the majority are in favor of using the escape key. Sounds fair enough to me. That leaves the shift, control, and alt keys open as modifiers. Which I need all of them for MOTA 3D when I release that version of the game which also will be using the G3D engine of course. On 4/29/11, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I also prefer escape to silence speech, and q to quit. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hmmm most cunning! i wonder if the keypressed vs key down option is what's causing the bouncing angela problem when you hold the jump keys? Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi Thomas, There is a third option, which will let you maintain the current keyboard layout. You can first perform a check to see if the ctrl key is pressed, if this is the case then interrupt the speech. This should obviously be a key pressed rather than a key down check, so that it only reports true again if the user releases the key and then pushes it down once more. Then you can check if the w key is pressed, and if this is the case check if the ctrl key is down. This is what I do in my upcoming game to solve this issue and it works very well. Just make strategic use of key down versus key pressed and there won't be a problem. What will end up happening, of course, is that speech is first interrupted when the control key is pressed but then immediately restarted again if w is pressed and control is still down. However speech won't be interrupted again on the next loop iteration because control will just be down, but not newly pressed. similarly the status command won't be restarted over and over again because w has not been newly pressed either. Using a key pressed rather than a key down check would also solve the slight quirk where holding down one of the number keys starts a violent stutter of the weapon name as it gets retriggered on every single loop iteration. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
Disconnect the mouse and put it in a drawer. Get students to be able to use the keyboard. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage You just hit on the number one way Microsoft got so big with the pc. They made it moron proof by just click. I am currently training someone with sight on the computer. They are not doing to bad. I did get them to start thinking that just because the info shows up on the browser it is still not on the computer. Now if I could only get this mouser not to be so right click happy. At 08:38 AM 4/29/2011, you wrote: HI Dark, As someone who does tech support for a living I can say I've been their done that. I hate to sound critical or negative about my clients as they pay me to help them with things, but your points are very valid ones. Since the introduction of graphical operating systems like Windows the general skill level of the average user is abismal. they don't know what something is called half the time and only know how to get their by clicking on a certain icon, and you have to describe it to them. Which of course changes from version to version of Windows and desktop theme to desktop theme. So its pretty hard for me as a blind user who can't see all that eye candy to help them. I usually have to make them read the text on the icon so they click on the right thing. Usually, as you pointed out, it is basic things like dragging and dropping files, cutting and pasting documents from folder to folder, that these people lack. I think in many cases they just purchased their computer from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Office Max, whatever turned it on and started pointing and clicking without any idea what in Hades they were doing. So as a result of any kind of training they just never figured out that the way they are using their computer is pretty limited and amateurish. Unlike Dos where you had to read a starters manual to do anything Windows lets them feel like they are doing something by clicking on icons and getting immediate results. What's this little notepad icon do? Oh, I can write text here. What's this little picture of a music cd do? Oh, I can play music cds with this program. What's this picture of a deck of cards do? Oh, its a game of Solitaire. That's how they find things out, and its limited as it doesn't really tell them how their computer works or gives them any real experience using all its functionality. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Interestingly enough this came up recently. my mum asked someone she knows a computer related question of how to setup an E-mail account, on the basis that this person always uses her pc for chatting on msn and buying stuff online so she should know. the friend knew nothing because all she knew how to do was open something by point and click and type in the boxes. While I was a litle too young to get into command line options, after it was proved to me that computers could do more than just word process and could be fun, I actually started trying stuff out just to see what certain items and such did, as well as trying Hal commands. while I'd not claime to be a wizard at these things, i do at least know enough to for instance try a couple of things if something goes wrong and be able to fix basic problems now and again, such as the other day when my laptop decided to mute itself. This however does not seem to be the norm at all, people don't evenseem to know what certin things are called or where they are and the same goes for training. It really bothers me that when my mum was taught it skills, she was taught just to open ms word. She actually didn't even know what a folder was and that my documents was a folder in windows, rather she thought she could only get there by using word. This got even worse when she wanted to start using a digital camera and storing pictures on her hard drive sinse she had no idea about basic file moving skills at all as all she'd been taught to do was open word, none of actually what was going on undernieth. On one ocasion on the phone to bt who provide my internet, when trying to fix connection problems, they were telling me to click on a certain icon. i asked if they meant network connections, and they didn't know, sinse they didn't know what the icon was called only what it did, much less that there are other ways to getting to that particular page of settings than clicking the desktop icon. A shame really, especially when things go wrong. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
You can also try turning off the screen. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: 29 April 2011 15:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage Disconnect the mouse and put it in a drawer. Get students to be able to use the keyboard. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage You just hit on the number one way Microsoft got so big with the pc. They made it moron proof by just click. I am currently training someone with sight on the computer. They are not doing to bad. I did get them to start thinking that just because the info shows up on the browser it is still not on the computer. Now if I could only get this mouser not to be so right click happy. At 08:38 AM 4/29/2011, you wrote: HI Dark, As someone who does tech support for a living I can say I've been their done that. I hate to sound critical or negative about my clients as they pay me to help them with things, but your points are very valid ones. Since the introduction of graphical operating systems like Windows the general skill level of the average user is abismal. they don't know what something is called half the time and only know how to get their by clicking on a certain icon, and you have to describe it to them. Which of course changes from version to version of Windows and desktop theme to desktop theme. So its pretty hard for me as a blind user who can't see all that eye candy to help them. I usually have to make them read the text on the icon so they click on the right thing. Usually, as you pointed out, it is basic things like dragging and dropping files, cutting and pasting documents from folder to folder, that these people lack. I think in many cases they just purchased their computer from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Office Max, whatever turned it on and started pointing and clicking without any idea what in Hades they were doing. So as a result of any kind of training they just never figured out that the way they are using their computer is pretty limited and amateurish. Unlike Dos where you had to read a starters manual to do anything Windows lets them feel like they are doing something by clicking on icons and getting immediate results. What's this little notepad icon do? Oh, I can write text here. What's this little picture of a music cd do? Oh, I can play music cds with this program. What's this picture of a deck of cards do? Oh, its a game of Solitaire. That's how they find things out, and its limited as it doesn't really tell them how their computer works or gives them any real experience using all its functionality. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Interestingly enough this came up recently. my mum asked someone she knows a computer related question of how to setup an E-mail account, on the basis that this person always uses her pc for chatting on msn and buying stuff online so she should know. the friend knew nothing because all she knew how to do was open something by point and click and type in the boxes. While I was a litle too young to get into command line options, after it was proved to me that computers could do more than just word process and could be fun, I actually started trying stuff out just to see what certain items and such did, as well as trying Hal commands. while I'd not claime to be a wizard at these things, i do at least know enough to for instance try a couple of things if something goes wrong and be able to fix basic problems now and again, such as the other day when my laptop decided to mute itself. This however does not seem to be the norm at all, people don't evenseem to know what certin things are called or where they are and the same goes for training. It really bothers me that when my mum was taught it skills, she was taught just to open ms word. She actually didn't even know what a folder was and that my documents was a folder in windows, rather she thought she could only get there by using word. This got even worse when she wanted to start using a digital camera and storing pictures on her hard drive sinse she had no idea about basic file moving skills at all as all she'd been taught to do was open word, none of actually what was going on undernieth. On one ocasion on the phone to bt who provide my internet, when trying to fix connection problems, they were telling me to click on a certain icon. i asked if they meant network connections, and they didn't know, sinse they didn't know what the icon was called only what it did, much less that there are other ways to getting to that particular page of settings than
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Dark, No, it isn't. That problem/issue has already been fixed. In fact quite a while ago. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm most cunning! i wonder if the keypressed vs key down option is what's causing the bouncing angela problem when you hold the jump keys? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] help with science invasion
You have to shoot it or hhit it with your racket - Original Message - From: The Addictor kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: [Audyssey] help with science invasion Hey all, how do I get the taxi driver out of the street before the motorcycle driver kills him? I'm not usually one to ask for spoilers, but I've tried everything--sicking the dog on the driver, running out in front of the bike to save the drivers life etc. Thoughts? Ken Downey The Addictor www.TheAddictor.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
no idea. you could probably go to your inbox and see if an email was sent. On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I created a new account and I got the validation email but when I click on the email link it does not open. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail
[Audyssey] The Logitech f510 came intoday's mail.
Hi to all. The logitech f510 came in today's snail-mail. Can anyone tell me what the large round button is that's in the center of the pad? Many Many thanks. Ron who's still getting his feet wet to a gamepad once again. Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] online play rooms
Hey, I have a question about something. instead of BlindAdrenaline card room, quentinc play room, rsgames, and all in play. Is there any other online game rooms out there? And does anyone know if all in play will let you have private games with just people you know like rs games does? And does quentinc play room do the same aswell? Thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] online play rooms
In quentic playroom you can hide a table with control+H. And also you can kick players if you are the game master with control+k. In any game you can press f1 to know the key commands of the game. Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 4/29/2011 11:08 PM, michael barnes wrote: Hey, I have a question about something. instead of BlindAdrenaline card room, quentinc play room, rsgames, and all in play. Is there any other online game rooms out there? And does anyone know if all in play will let you have private games with just people you know like rs games does? And does quentinc play room do the same aswell? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
Yeah I activated it got one that said it was activated but amazingly I still can't connect. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. you could probably go to your inbox and see if an email was sent. On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I created a new account and I got the validation email but when I click on the email link it does not open. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are
Re: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importanceof patronage
Besides, it's not just the cane that shows your blind. Sliding your hand along a table looking for a glass for instance will do that too. that's another reason why i've found people who refuse to use mobility aides rather odd. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] don't draw attention? Sheesh! - Re: The importanceof patronage Hi exactly i agree with you on that one. at the end of the day if you need a aid weather it is a cane or a dog and it gives you mobility then you should use it to it's potential. if your blind you need something to help you get around not using a cane or a dog is just putting your self in a more vonrable possission. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Glad to here it, that one was quite a pest and made the analogue system more trouble to use which was quite a shame. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi Dark, No, it isn't. That problem/issue has already been fixed. In fact quite a while ago. Cheers! On 4/29/11, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hmmm most cunning! i wonder if the keypressed vs key down option is what's causing the bouncing angela problem when you hold the jump keys? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] For all F510 owners.
My dad just read to me what the cenbter round button is. In direct mode no function to the button But in X mode its Keyboard home So home that helps everyone out. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] The importance of patronage
well I have always learned what i call mouse to keyboard translation. I know left click is same is arrowing to highlight the item. double is enter on it right click is the app key. Learning what things are layout is important also the menus. If someone tells me click on this icon in the corner of the screen with a blue envelope then I can't really know that. If they tell me the name, or simular visual refference then I know what I need to do to get to what they mean though I tell them that it may take a couple seconds to get there. One thing with windows is the fact stand controls have shortcuts and stuff so you may tell me to click this and that and fill in this stuff and hit that button however as long as its standard controls and labeled, it may take me time but I am translating it to blind or keyboard procedures to the point where I tell even blind people to click and point to this and that. If they don't know I tell them my translation key. You do need to know standard controls and keyboard layout of a semi modern board though. At 12:03 a.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: Interestingly enough this came up recently. my mum asked someone she knows a computer related question of how to setup an E-mail account, on the basis that this person always uses her pc for chatting on msn and buying stuff online so she should know. the friend knew nothing because all she knew how to do was open something by point and click and type in the boxes. While I was a litle too young to get into command line options, after it was proved to me that computers could do more than just word process and could be fun, I actually started trying stuff out just to see what certain items and such did, as well as trying Hal commands. while I'd not claime to be a wizard at these things, i do at least know enough to for instance try a couple of things if something goes wrong and be able to fix basic problems now and again, such as the other day when my laptop decided to mute itself. This however does not seem to be the norm at all, people don't evenseem to know what certin things are called or where they are and the same goes for training. It really bothers me that when my mum was taught it skills, she was taught just to open ms word. She actually didn't even know what a folder was and that my documents was a folder in windows, rather she thought she could only get there by using word. This got even worse when she wanted to start using a digital camera and storing pictures on her hard drive sinse she had no idea about basic file moving skills at all as all she'd been taught to do was open word, none of actually what was going on undernieth. On one ocasion on the phone to bt who provide my internet, when trying to fix connection problems, they were telling me to click on a certain icon. i asked if they meant network connections, and they didn't know, sinse they didn't know what the icon was called only what it did, much less that there are other ways to getting to that particular page of settings than clicking the desktop icon. A shame really, especially when things go wrong. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
escape exits the game though. At 01:25 a.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: hi thomas, I have read through this thread and I personally wouldn't use the slash or grave key to interrupt speech. Escape, however, would be ok. Another option would be alt, that's what sound rts uses and you can get used to it quickly enough. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
copy the link and open it that way. At 01:36 a.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: I created a new account and I got the validation email but when I click on the email link it does not open. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator: Off Topic Posts
yeah it was fun. At 01:41 a.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: HI all, Ok, I think its time the moderators step in. I know we all have had fun talking about this that and the other thing, but really guys things are starting to get way way off topic. So let's please get back to gaming and close down all the off topic threads. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
Sometimes we can't connect to quentinc playroom because we don't have the last version. Make sure you have the latest version and all should be fine. Cheers, Jorge Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 4/29/2011 11:27 PM, Mike Maslo wrote: Yeah I activated it got one that said it was activated but amazingly I still can't connect. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. you could probably go to your inbox and see if an email was sent. On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I created a new account and I got the validation email but when I click on the email link it does not open. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list'gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
I got validated but when I try to connect it says cannot connect to server -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? copy the link and open it that way. At 01:36 a.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: I created a new account and I got the validation email but when I click on the email link it does not open. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
Hi Thom, I too like the idea of the esc key for silencing speech. But here is another suggestion. Would it be possible to think about using the caps lock key to silence speech? Just thinking if it is possible it might mean less recoding. rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:51 AM Hi, Hmmm...It ssounds like the majority are in favor of using the escape key. Sounds fair enough to me. That leaves the shift, control, and alt keys open as modifiers. Which I need all of them for MOTA 3D when I release that version of the game which also will be using the G3D engine of course. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)!
Hi, Like soap from wet hands? What is this supposed to be, simile hour? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! This looks fake. We received a fabulous feedbacks. Instead of that, they could have written. We received great feedback on our games. This doesn't look real, and I don't know how the person did this. I saw this on the audio games.net forum. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! Notice how the author of this Email switched from the past to the present or future? Even at the very beginning, questions arise: bavisoft was a fair enterprise, committed towards the development of high quality computer games for the blind. Question: Was?? You mean that they no longer are?? we received a rather fabulous feedbacks regarding the both games we have created certainly, we had plans for the future. Question: A rather fabulous feedbacks?? Would that be singular?, or plural. And that's just for starters. The very first thought I had was that I am reading something on a hijacked site, done by someone in a foreign country who isn't taking care to hide the fact that this is a phony. JMO, though. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: bryant walker bryantwalk...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! Hello everyone Recently on the audiogames forum there was a message from an audiogamer who recently sent a message to bavisoft and he actually got a reply. But judging from the many gramatical errors in the email message, i'm begining to think this may not be bavisoft that actually replyed. I'm begining to also wonder if someone has taken over there company. ANyway, the email is below for those of you who want to read it. Feel free to leave your thoughts in this topic. But if this is indeed bavisoft, well, we at least know they are alive. Note again, this email was not directed to me, but to someone else. hi sid. we have read your email and would not like to say anything much. bavisoft was a fair enterprise, commited towards the development of high quality computer games for the blind. we received a rather favulous feedbacks regarding the both games we have created certainly, we had plans for the future. so initially, we started as a rather fine business, managing to get enough proffits to meet the costs involved in the process of development. in addition, we had also drawn certain plans for the future about development of new games and continution of old or existing games . with the progressing years, our potential kept falling down, plus we had to face a lot of extreme financial, residential, and social crisis. for sure, that was a period of uncertainty, for all of us in fact, but we couldn't do anything when we find ourselves burried in a really outragious heap of troubles, through wich, it was almost impossible to get out of it. as the time advanced, our managing system kept falling like a soap from wett hands. around the time in mid-2010, the things had totally gone out of hands. so finally, we had to give up, i hope that we will soon get rid of all the crisis that we have to face around. as for the concern, bavisoft may seem to be currently absorved below in the heaps of marshes, but one day, it will surely be on the top audio games development. we know that what exactly a newer audiogamer feels when they are discouraged from trying our games, but in that case, nothing much could be done right at this moment. we are still recovering from all these crisis, but we promise to release chillingham2, and a few more titles in the audiogaming industry, in the later coming years. acknowledgements, the bavisoft team --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web,
[Audyssey] using mush z question
Hi list. I'm changing clients. Can someone please tell me how to add games to mush z? and how do you get the sound packs for the games if there are any? Thanks and sorry if this topic has already been covered. i know certain moderators hate that. Thanks in advance. Jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners.
Greetings Ron et al. Not sure that it'll have any great effect, but I've posted a message to the Logitech forums requesting that the center button be updated so that it functions like a thirteenth button. I could definitely think of good uses for such an addition. MotA, for instance, could use the thirteenth button as a modifier for multiple occasions. Kai - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. My dad just read to me what the cenbter round button is. In direct mode no function to the button But in X mode its Keyboard home So home that helps everyone out. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners.
I agree with you. For TDV, it could be for keeping a eye on your ALT and or to keep a eye on your speed or to make sure you're level. I still say that there ought to be a duel gamepad with about fifteen to twenty buttons. Well, at least fifteen. Anyone agree with me on that? Kay, how would we know if there's a up grade and how would we be able to clame it? Thanks. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: Kai kaixi...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. Greetings Ron et al. Not sure that it'll have any great effect, but I've posted a message to the Logitech forums requesting that the center button be updated so that it functions like a thirteenth button. I could definitely think of good uses for such an addition. MotA, for instance, could use the thirteenth button as a modifier for multiple occasions. Kai - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. My dad just read to me what the cenbter round button is. In direct mode no function to the button But in X mode its Keyboard home So home that helps everyone out. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] A NOte on the Bavisoft is Still Alive Topic
Hi, I can safely say that that was a fake: the very poster on the forum admitted to posting. So as of now, things still look grim as it comes to Bavisoft being alive and kicking. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners.
One more point Kay. My dad also told methat the button that's to the left of the force feed back button. So we're talking about the lower left hand button from the roud button that's in the center. He told me that this button is a multi button and depending on how many times you press it will be in that mode it is in. It is a flight button and sport button and a coupld of other's that I can't remember. To bad there's not some type of audio upper and lower pitch to at least tell you which way you're going through the list. That way you could at least come up with a personal system to find the mode that you want to play or fly in. Just a thought. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: Kai kaixi...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. Greetings Ron et al. Not sure that it'll have any great effect, but I've posted a message to the Logitech forums requesting that the center button be updated so that it functions like a thirteenth button. I could definitely think of good uses for such an addition. MotA, for instance, could use the thirteenth button as a modifier for multiple occasions. Kai - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. My dad just read to me what the cenbter round button is. In direct mode no function to the button But in X mode its Keyboard home So home that helps everyone out. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] A NOte on the Bavisoft is Still Alive Topic
I just went to their web site and I received the following message: Account Suspended Account Suspended This Account Has Been Suspended -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Hayden Presley Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:08 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] A NOte on the Bavisoft is Still Alive Topic Hi, I can safely say that that was a fake: the very poster on the forum admitted to posting. So as of now, things still look grim as it comes to Bavisoft being alive and kicking. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners.
Greetings Ron. Small point of clarification: My name's Kai, not Kay. I'm most definitely male, not female. Assuming any updates are made (don't hold your breath, it is Logitech after all), I'll post relevant data to the list. Kai - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. I agree with you. For TDV, it could be for keeping a eye on your ALT and or to keep a eye on your speed or to make sure you're level. I still say that there ought to be a duel gamepad with about fifteen to twenty buttons. Well, at least fifteen. Anyone agree with me on that? Kay, how would we know if there's a up grade and how would we be able to clame it? Thanks. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: Kai kaixi...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:03 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. Greetings Ron et al. Not sure that it'll have any great effect, but I've posted a message to the Logitech forums requesting that the center button be updated so that it functions like a thirteenth button. I could definitely think of good uses for such an addition. MotA, for instance, could use the thirteenth button as a modifier for multiple occasions. Kai - Original Message - From: Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com To: Audyssey gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: [Audyssey] For all F510 owners. My dad just read to me what the cenbter round button is. In direct mode no function to the button But in X mode its Keyboard home So home that helps everyone out. Ron Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] blind adrenaline, was: Re: online play rooms
blind adrenaline will allow you to have private tables as well. you can invite other players, and an email will be sent to them letting them know of the game, as well as a link to the game page. come check us out, we've got by far the most features of any online game room for the blind, at half the price of all in play, and you get a full month to try it free. also,unlike all in play, we're completely owned, managed and programmed by the blind, so we know where your coming from. and currently we're holding 4 tournaments a week with spades, hearts, hold em and draw with our built in tournament system, you can't beat it with a stick. feel free to email me with any questions if you like. che blindadrenal...@gmail.com http://www.blindadrenaline.com/cardroom/ -Original Message- From: Jorge Gonçalves Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] online play rooms In quentic playroom you can hide a table with control+H. And also you can kick players if you are the game master with control+k. In any game you can press f1 to know the key commands of the game. Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 4/29/2011 11:08 PM, michael barnes wrote: Hey, I have a question about something. instead of BlindAdrenaline card room, quentinc play room, rsgames, and all in play. Is there any other online game rooms out there? And does anyone know if all in play will let you have private games with just people you know like rs games does? And does quentinc play room do the same aswell? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA
those keys work for me. Tim - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:28 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA Hi all, Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However, I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts on this matter? Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] online play rooms
www.zonebbs.com - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: [Audyssey] online play rooms Hey, I have a question about something. instead of BlindAdrenaline card room, quentinc play room, rsgames, and all in play. Is there any other online game rooms out there? And does anyone know if all in play will let you have private games with just people you know like rs games does? And does quentinc play room do the same aswell? Thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)!
nope! There pretty dead to me. - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! Hi, Like soap from wet hands? What is this supposed to be, simile hour? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shiny protector Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! This looks fake. We received a fabulous feedbacks. Instead of that, they could have written. We received great feedback on our games. This doesn't look real, and I don't know how the person did this. I saw this on the audio games.net forum. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! Notice how the author of this Email switched from the past to the present or future? Even at the very beginning, questions arise: bavisoft was a fair enterprise, committed towards the development of high quality computer games for the blind. Question: Was?? You mean that they no longer are?? we received a rather fabulous feedbacks regarding the both games we have created certainly, we had plans for the future. Question: A rather fabulous feedbacks?? Would that be singular?, or plural. And that's just for starters. The very first thought I had was that I am reading something on a hijacked site, done by someone in a foreign country who isn't taking care to hide the fact that this is a phony. JMO, though. --- Laughter is the best medicine, so look around, find a dose and take it to heart. - Original Message - From: bryant walker bryantwalk...@hotmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:07 AM Subject: [Audyssey] bavisoft is alive (i think but am not sure)! Hello everyone Recently on the audiogames forum there was a message from an audiogamer who recently sent a message to bavisoft and he actually got a reply. But judging from the many gramatical errors in the email message, i'm begining to think this may not be bavisoft that actually replyed. I'm begining to also wonder if someone has taken over there company. ANyway, the email is below for those of you who want to read it. Feel free to leave your thoughts in this topic. But if this is indeed bavisoft, well, we at least know they are alive. Note again, this email was not directed to me, but to someone else. hi sid. we have read your email and would not like to say anything much. bavisoft was a fair enterprise, commited towards the development of high quality computer games for the blind. we received a rather favulous feedbacks regarding the both games we have created certainly, we had plans for the future. so initially, we started as a rather fine business, managing to get enough proffits to meet the costs involved in the process of development. in addition, we had also drawn certain plans for the future about development of new games and continution of old or existing games . with the progressing years, our potential kept falling down, plus we had to face a lot of extreme financial, residential, and social crisis. for sure, that was a period of uncertainty, for all of us in fact, but we couldn't do anything when we find ourselves burried in a really outragious heap of troubles, through wich, it was almost impossible to get out of it. as the time advanced, our managing system kept falling like a soap from wett hands. around the time in mid-2010, the things had totally gone out of hands. so finally, we had to give up, i hope that we will soon get rid of all the crisis that we have to face around. as for the concern, bavisoft may seem to be currently absorved below in the heaps of marshes, but one day, it will surely be on the top audio games development. we know that what exactly a newer audiogamer feels when they are discouraged from trying our games, but in that case, nothing much could be done right at this moment. we are still recovering from all these crisis, but we promise to release chillingham2, and a few more titles in the audiogaming industry, in the later coming years. acknowledgements, the bavisoft team --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers
[Audyssey] free game rooms
Hey, first thanks for the info that different ones have gave me. Here is one last quick question that I have. Can someone give me a list of all the free game rooms, play rooms? If someone would be so nice to give me those sites that would be great. I have rsgames and quentinc play room. Thanks. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Braille Lite Games?
Going old school, well ... sort of. I have been working on a multi-language translator for quite sometime to help me easily support multiple devices, old and future without much code modifications. It basically takes any PAC Mate program I've written in Basic4ppc and translates it into equivalent Python code that is compatible with the BraillePlus. I am updating the Translator with a much needed update, and this update now includes Android, Windows, Linux, and Mac code generations. I won't be releasing new titles until I have a decent working translator. If I add Braille Lite code generation using its BASIC interpreter, would anyone play any new titles? Lots of text-based ideas come to mind. If a particular program can't be translated for one platform, it forgets that platform and tries the others before giving up. Once the Android version works properly I hope to release a better update, though I haven't decided if I want to keep it Open-Source or charge for the time I spent writing this product and its required code templates. I've been also talking with my wife about getting an Intel-based Apple with 10.6 or better. Once we have one, iOS devices will be of course added. And any Android program from BrailleSoft will run on an iOS device. HTH. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Playroom?
you probably need to uninstall and uninstall the old version delete the program folder and reload the game using the latest download though its supposed to autoupdate. At 12:32 p.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: I got validated but when I try to connect it says cannot connect to server -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:12 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? copy the link and open it that way. At 01:36 a.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: I created a new account and I got the validation email but when I click on the email link it does not open. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 7:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? no idea. had to create another account just to connect. On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Mike Maslo wrote: I cannot connect to this game. I registered but now cannot connect. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:56 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? as i speak french fluently can i use the games in french? On 29 Apr 2011, at 10:50, Lori Duncan wrote: Hi I've been away on holiday in Abu Dabhi so have missed the first email about this thread, what is this game about? Thanks from Lori - Original Message - From: Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playroom? I don't have the URL, but I can send the English installer if you like in a private e-mail, or even better, I think its on my public dropbox thing, so I can just post the link up here for those who want it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Imbar Golt Sent: 28 April 2011 21:24 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Playroom? Hi, Is that a site? If it is, can someone write the address please? Cheers, Imbar Ms Imbar Golt im...@netvision.net.il --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave
Re: [Audyssey] blind adrenaline, was: Re: online play rooms
Che: I think the time has come to address an issue here. The private table feature, which use to work for holdem, does not work anymore for some reason. Can you look in to it? Ciao, David On 4/29/11, Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com wrote: blind adrenaline will allow you to have private tables as well. you can invite other players, and an email will be sent to them letting them know of the game, as well as a link to the game page. come check us out, we've got by far the most features of any online game room for the blind, at half the price of all in play, and you get a full month to try it free. also,unlike all in play, we're completely owned, managed and programmed by the blind, so we know where your coming from. and currently we're holding 4 tournaments a week with spades, hearts, hold em and draw with our built in tournament system, you can't beat it with a stick. feel free to email me with any questions if you like. che blindadrenal...@gmail.com http://www.blindadrenaline.com/cardroom/ -Original Message- From: Jorge Gonçalves Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] online play rooms In quentic playroom you can hide a table with control+H. And also you can kick players if you are the game master with control+k. In any game you can press f1 to know the key commands of the game. Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 4/29/2011 11:08 PM, michael barnes wrote: Hey, I have a question about something. instead of BlindAdrenaline card room, quentinc play room, rsgames, and all in play. Is there any other online game rooms out there? And does anyone know if all in play will let you have private games with just people you know like rs games does? And does quentinc play room do the same aswell? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Braille Lite Games?
hmmm Well I may concider paying a small ammount if you could add old qbasic and gwbasic games to the mix. If you could convert these to python code, that I could play on windows that would rock. On that note, If you could have something that could convert to c++ and actual c that could rock python will do for now but it opens up a number of possabilities. I'd like to play my .bas files again not sure how it would work for windows though. At 03:46 p.m. 30/04/2011, you wrote: Going old school, well ... sort of. I have been working on a multi-language translator for quite sometime to help me easily support multiple devices, old and future without much code modifications. It basically takes any PAC Mate program I've written in Basic4ppc and translates it into equivalent Python code that is compatible with the BraillePlus. I am updating the Translator with a much needed update, and this update now includes Android, Windows, Linux, and Mac code generations. I won't be releasing new titles until I have a decent working translator. If I add Braille Lite code generation using its BASIC interpreter, would anyone play any new titles? Lots of text-based ideas come to mind. If a particular program can't be translated for one platform, it forgets that platform and tries the others before giving up. Once the Android version works properly I hope to release a better update, though I haven't decided if I want to keep it Open-Source or charge for the time I spent writing this product and its required code templates. I've been also talking with my wife about getting an Intel-based Apple with 10.6 or better. Once we have one, iOS devices will be of course added. And any Android program from BrailleSoft will run on an iOS device. HTH. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] blind adrenaline, was: Re: online play rooms
no, the private tables are working fine there david. if you invite someone, they get an invitation, and a seat is reserved for them, as it is supposed to work. the table is no longer hidden, as it used to be, because you can use the block feature to keep folks you don't want playing from seeing the tables. In other words, you can have your cake, and eat it to. later, che -Original Message- From: David Chung Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blind adrenaline, was: Re: online play rooms Che: I think the time has come to address an issue here. The private table feature, which use to work for holdem, does not work anymore for some reason. Can you look in to it? Ciao, David On 4/29/11, Che blindadrenal...@gmail.com wrote: blind adrenaline will allow you to have private tables as well. you can invite other players, and an email will be sent to them letting them know of the game, as well as a link to the game page. come check us out, we've got by far the most features of any online game room for the blind, at half the price of all in play, and you get a full month to try it free. also,unlike all in play, we're completely owned, managed and programmed by the blind, so we know where your coming from. and currently we're holding 4 tournaments a week with spades, hearts, hold em and draw with our built in tournament system, you can't beat it with a stick. feel free to email me with any questions if you like. che blindadrenal...@gmail.com http://www.blindadrenaline.com/cardroom/ -Original Message- From: Jorge Gonçalves Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] online play rooms In quentic playroom you can hide a table with control+H. And also you can kick players if you are the game master with control+k. In any game you can press f1 to know the key commands of the game. Cheers Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 4/29/2011 11:08 PM, michael barnes wrote: Hey, I have a question about something. instead of BlindAdrenaline card room, quentinc play room, rsgames, and all in play. Is there any other online game rooms out there? And does anyone know if all in play will let you have private games with just people you know like rs games does? And does quentinc play room do the same aswell? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] using mush z question
Not sure. I'm using VIP mud here. Although I have got mush installed somewhere in the depths of my pc's hard drive. To be honest, its quicker to just tab and go up and down using the pc cursor than it is to kep routing jaws to pc if you miss something or want to find something quickly. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jess Varnell Sent: 30 April 2011 02:02 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] using mush z question Hi list. I'm changing clients. Can someone please tell me how to add games to mush z? and how do you get the sound packs for the games if there are any? Thanks and sorry if this topic has already been covered. i know certain moderators hate that. Thanks in advance. Jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] using mush z question
mush has a vipmud like output window as well, just hit ctrl tab. On 4/30/11, Harmony Neil harmon...@googlemail.com wrote: Not sure. I'm using VIP mud here. Although I have got mush installed somewhere in the depths of my pc's hard drive. To be honest, its quicker to just tab and go up and down using the pc cursor than it is to kep routing jaws to pc if you miss something or want to find something quickly. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jess Varnell Sent: 30 April 2011 02:02 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] using mush z question Hi list. I'm changing clients. Can someone please tell me how to add games to mush z? and how do you get the sound packs for the games if there are any? Thanks and sorry if this topic has already been covered. i know certain moderators hate that. Thanks in advance. Jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
