Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
And of course it wouldn't be star trek without the captain falling in love and his newly beloved dying of a disrupter shot to the head or something! Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. - Original Message - From: Richard Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi Thom, I had a thought (and boy does it hurt). Last night's episode of TNG was where Q returns and gives Ryker the power of the Q. Is it possible that you could incorporate Q as a wild card in there. For example, Q would randomly pop up and cause something unusual to happen. He could cause the Enterprise to suddenly have Borg shields. Everything the romullans did would be the reverse of what they wanted. Something like that. Just a thought. *ouch, my brain hurts!* Rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi Raul, An alternate universe or mirror universe sounds good. Even possably the universe in yesterday's Enterprise where the Federation was at war with the Klingons. On our little side note I believe Insurection. happened in Deep Space 9 season 6. Maybe it was the book where one of the Enterprise crew congradulated Warf on his marriage to Dax. That would indicate it takes place sometime after their marage but sometime before Jadzia's death in the sixth season. One thing I can tell is that First Contact and Insurection. happpen very near to each other in the timeline. Probably not more than a year or two between them. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.0/609 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi, I believe you are talking about the epasode Hide and Q. In any case I could add Q, but I'd rather not. Smile. Richard Sherman wrote: Hi Thom, I had a thought (and boy does it hurt). Last night's episode of TNG was where Q returns and gives Ryker the power of the Q. Is it possible that you could incorporate Q as a wild card in there. For example, Q would randomly pop up and cause something unusual to happen. He could cause the Enterprise to suddenly have Borg shields. Everything the romullans did would be the reverse of what they wanted. Something like that. Just a thought. *ouch, my brain hurts!* Rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi Raul, An alternate universe or mirror universe sounds good. Even possably the universe in yesterday's Enterprise where the Federation was at war with the Klingons. On our little side note I believe Insurection. happened in Deep Space 9 season 6. Maybe it was the book where one of the Enterprise crew congradulated Warf on his marriage to Dax. That would indicate it takes place sometime after their marage but sometime before Jadzia's death in the sixth season. One thing I can tell is that First Contact and Insurection. happpen very near to each other in the timeline. Probably not more than a year or two between them. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Shaun, I am both a fan of Star Wars and Star Trek, but I am not a fan of crossover type games. If I am doing Star Wars I am doing Star Wars. If I am doing Star Trek I am doing Star Trek. shaun everiss wrote: What do people think about a trek/starwars crossover since we are talking about mirror universes. I have seen such things on sites like darkerprojects.com and pendantaudio.com, both of which I download all trek projects. ANyway Would be cool to have this type. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Raul an Richard, Yeah, it sure would be funny. certainly unique. Raul A. Gallegos wrote: That would be funny. However, Q would have to be a random factor which could also be bad for the Federation. Like, for example, when the Enterprise fires on an enemy ship, the torpedos go and hit a friendly ship. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Tom, I mentioned the enemy starbasis and wondered if you could capture them. Lets say, once the shields were put out of action in a battle, you could send an away team over and use them as federation outposts. Using the letter A in the tactical menu for Away Team. Any damage would be inherited until the repair time elapsed of course. That does make me wonder what would happen if Earth station McKinley was about to be captured...would Itself destruct or would I be forced to fire on my own base? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi Shaun, I am both a fan of Star Wars and Star Trek, but I am not a fan of crossover type games. If I am doing Star Wars I am doing Star Wars. If I am doing Star Trek I am doing Star Trek. shaun everiss wrote: What do people think about a trek/starwars crossover since we are talking about mirror universes. I have seen such things on sites like darkerprojects.com and pendantaudio.com, both of which I download all trek projects. ANyway Would be cool to have this type. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Mark, That would certainly be an interesting concept for version 2.0. To be honest I don't think capturing a starbase is that practical in the long run. There are hundres even thousands of support personelle abord those bases. To successfully take a station you would have to force enemy to abandon the base and would intale all of there support craft was destroyed, they had no weapons, and you offer a surrender or die polacy. The Romulans have proven they'd rather self-destruct than surrender. The Klingons would never surrender, and choose death. The Cardassians though would likely surrender as they did DS9 on DS9. Smile. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Thom, That's just fine. We'll call it programmer's prerogative. Rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi, I believe you are talking about the epasode Hide and Q. In any case I could add Q, but I'd rather not. Smile. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Richard, I know, and thanks for the suggestion. Richard Sherman wrote: Hi Thom, In the time the universe has been around the overlap time is quite small. Quit splitting hairs. Captain Picard doesn't have that many. ha, ha, ha, ha Just use your best judgement #1. Captains perogative to go take a nap now. *big grin with a snicker* Rich ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Raul, An alternate universe or mirror universe sounds good. Even possably the universe in yesterday's Enterprise where the Federation was at war with the Klingons. On our little side note I believe Insurection. happened in Deep Space 9 season 6. Maybe it was the book where one of the Enterprise crew congradulated Warf on his marriage to Dax. That would indicate it takes place sometime after their marage but sometime before Jadzia's death in the sixth season. One thing I can tell is that First Contact and Insurection. happpen very near to each other in the timeline. Probably not more than a year or two between them. Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hello Tom. If the story line was made around 2369/70 that would be great. The Duras family could be the Klingons the Federation has to fight against. I like that idea. On one quick side note, you are probably more right than me on the year of Insurection. I remember Picard saying the Federation needed more allies because of the Dominion war. That indicates that Insurection happens during the Dominion war, possibly during season 7 of DS9, season 5 of Voyager, year 2375. Now that I think on this a little more. You could always use destroyed ships and full out war against the Klingons by stating at the beginning of the game that this is an alternate reality. This way even if the war we play in the game takes place in let's say year 2366 or 2367, right in the middle of TNG, then by using an alternative reality, you could get away with using ships like the Yomato which was destroyed. What do you think? ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hmmm I can think of anouther reason to use Runabouts. They are lightly armed, slow, an could be used as bate. In addition, they would be of little los to the overall fleet. Ken the Crazy wrote: Now using runabouts is an excellent idea--scouting for data would give you an awesome advantage in the game. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Thom, I had a thought (and boy does it hurt). Last night's episode of TNG was where Q returns and gives Ryker the power of the Q. Is it possible that you could incorporate Q as a wild card in there. For example, Q would randomly pop up and cause something unusual to happen. He could cause the Enterprise to suddenly have Borg shields. Everything the romullans did would be the reverse of what they wanted. Something like that. Just a thought. *ouch, my brain hurts!* Rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi Raul, An alternate universe or mirror universe sounds good. Even possably the universe in yesterday's Enterprise where the Federation was at war with the Klingons. On our little side note I believe Insurection. happened in Deep Space 9 season 6. Maybe it was the book where one of the Enterprise crew congradulated Warf on his marriage to Dax. That would indicate it takes place sometime after their marage but sometime before Jadzia's death in the sixth season. One thing I can tell is that First Contact and Insurection. happpen very near to each other in the timeline. Probably not more than a year or two between them. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
That would be funny. However, Q would have to be a random factor which could also be bad for the Federation. Like, for example, when the Enterprise fires on an enemy ship, the torpedos go and hit a friendly ship. * Richard Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-30 12:38]: Hi Thom, I had a thought (and boy does it hurt). Last night's episode of TNG was where Q returns and gives Ryker the power of the Q. Is it possible that you could incorporate Q as a wild card in there. For example, Q would randomly pop up and cause something unusual to happen. He could cause the Enterprise to suddenly have Borg shields. Everything the romullans did would be the reverse of what they wanted. Something like that. Just a thought. *ouch, my brain hurts!* -- Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them. -- Exodus 15:12 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Raul, That is it exactly. Some type of unpredictable action. Good and/or bad for the Federation ships. Rich - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. That would be funny. However, Q would have to be a random factor which could also be bad for the Federation. Like, for example, when the Enterprise fires on an enemy ship, the torpedos go and hit a friendly ship. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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mixed would really rock, it means we will have to think before tasking bits and pieces. At 12:27 PM 12/29/2006, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi all, I've been doing allot of thinking about STFC 2.0, and I have decided personally to redesign STFC 2.0 as a strictly TNG game. This means the ships, bases, etc will be based on the STING series. However, I have one question about this. On TNG they often attempted to show off the new Galaxy class such as Enterprise and Yamato, but often as not most of the ships seen on the show Hood, Magellan, Repulse, and many others were based on the older Excelsior and Myranda-class designs. The Ambassador-Class also made an appearance or two. So the basic question is would you like your entire fleet comprised of the Galaxy-class, or would you like the fleet to be more realistic being made up of various different ships with different weapons payloads, speeds, shielding sensors, etc. Personally, I think the mixed fleet is more interesting. With the fleet being mixed up it completely changes the tactical situation. An Excelsior could easily face off with a Cardassian being of the same general weapons payload and speed, could probably handle Klingons, but would be really out gunned when taking on Romulans and Borg. The Galaxy-class being the top-of-the-line for the series would of course be the best for taking on the Romulans and Borg. Better shielding, phasers, speed, more torpedoes, etc... What do you all think. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Absolutely mix the ship classes, the more the better. What about providing different numbers of friendly and enemy ships as an option to increase difficulty, rather than varying the enemy's toughness? Christopher Bartlett ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Phil, Yes, on TNG, DS9, etc you would from time to time see older classes of enemy vessels, but they were not identified by name. I'd really have to dig find names and technical info about them if I chose to use them. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Tom, I hope you put as much variety in the enemy ships! They must be using some old clinkers too. Except for the Borg, that is. Of course the Borg could be in some Galaxy class Federation ships that they took over! Phil ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Richard, Actually, TNG, DS9, and Voyager covers aproxamatly a 15 year period of time with some over lap, but stardates would have to be compared to find how much overlap there is. For example the first show of TNG, Encounter at Farpoint,was sometime in the year 2364. The first show of DS9 began in 2368/2369 the year following the Borg invasion at Wolf-359, which is around TNG season 4/5 and DS9 season one. Voyager's first voyage which landed them in the delta quadrant happened sometime after TNG season 7 and TNG Generations. Around DS9 season 3/4. The last show of Voyager was in 2378, and a year later in 2379 the Enterprise E was sent by Admiral Janeway to meet with Picard's Romulan clone who had overthrown the Romulan Senate. Richard Sherman wrote: Hi, I personally would like to see as many ships from the TNG, Voyageur, and DS 9 era ships as much as possible since they all take place around the same time. just a thought if it is possible. Rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward Hi Charles, Yeah, I would think having different kinds of ships would make for some very interesting battles. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Richard, Never heard that one before, but that sounds like truth. Smile. On Star Trek they often use a variety of craft in engagements. Especially in the Dominion War they had several classes represented at the mager engagements. Each kind of ship has it's own strengths and weaknesses. The Excelsior class seams to be mass produced since we saw them in every TNG series except Enterprise of course. TheAmbassidor class has been seen around as well, and the Galaxy-Class seams quite uncommon for TNG and DS9.Although 12 ships of the Galaxy-class are assumed to have been built by the end of the Dominion War. Of course, I don't know how many of those 12 were destroyed. Yamato was destroyed during TNG, Enterprise D in Generations, and on DS9 Odyssey, Venture, and a couple of others bit the dust. During the TNG engagement at the battle of Wolf-359 from what I have best gathered the 40 ship taskforce was comprised of Constitution, excelcior, and Ambassidor ships which were all lost Well, most of them as Excalibur according to later TNG epasodes state she was in drie-dock for repairs/upgrades do to the Borg invasion, and a Voyager epasode had Janeway and the crew discover former members of Excalibur's crew who had been assymalated at Wolf-359. Excalibur went on to appear in a DS9 epasode against the Dominion. Richard Sherman wrote: Hi Thom, They say that variety is the spice of life. So variety it is. Rich ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Shaun, It definately changes the dinamics of a battle situation. For example even the upgraded Excelsior's are no real threat to Romulan warbirds or Klingon birds of prey, but an Ambassidor or Galaxy-class is better to stand up to them. However, the Cardassians are so wimpy even theExcelsiors should be able to handle them in a fair firefight. shaun everiss wrote: mixed would really rock, it means we will have to think before tasking bits and pieces. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Max and all, Well, I have been going through my TNG epasodes on dvd and it seams most of the starships were of the Excelsior-class or the Ambassidor-class. There is quite a number of ships to choose from, and I guess the matter now is picking out which ships will go in the fleet. I am immediately offing ships like Melborn and Yamagachi since they were toasted by the Borg. Yamato was cool, but the Iconeon insodent seen to it Yamato was toasted as well. What I am finding out is that many of the starships in TNG were destroyed either to a crash, got whiped out by something like the iconeon weapon or the Borg, or they were rarely seen. For example the USS Zhukov was seen for a little while in Data's Day. Repulse was seen two or three times transfering personelle or supplies to Enterprise D, and the Crazy Horse was seen briefly in Descent. The Excalibur went under refit after Wolf-359 and was used in TNG to fight in the Klingon civil war. So if we mark off destroyed ships we get a short list. If we include destroyed ships then the list is much larger. So what do you all think? Should we use destroyed ships, or stick with only ships known to be in service without being destroyed in the shows? ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Tom, yes I think a mixture of different classes of ships would be more challenging and realistic. Would a more modern ship such as a galaxy class be equipped with better sensors? Good enough to give a warning of a cloaked enemy when close enough?...Just thinking allowed you understand. Attacking the enemy starbasis isn't worthwhile at the moment. There's not enough reward in destroying them and risking damage in doing so. Maybe awarding points? rewarded with an extra ship added to your fleet?Not sure about that. Cheers. Mark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi all, I've been doing allot of thinking about STFC 2.0, and I have decided personally to redesign STFC 2.0 as a strictly TNG game. This means the ships, bases, etc will be based on the STING series. However, I have one question about this. On TNG they often attempted to show off the new Galaxy class such as Enterprise and Yamato, but often as not most of the ships seen on the show Hood, Magellan, Repulse, and many others were based on the older Excelsior and Myranda-class designs. The Ambassador-Class also made an appearance or two. So the basic question is would you like your entire fleet comprised of the Galaxy-class, or would you like the fleet to be more realistic being made up of various different ships with different weapons payloads, speeds, shielding sensors, etc. Personally, I think the mixed fleet is more interesting. With the fleet being mixed up it completely changes the tactical situation. An Excelsior could easily face off with a Cardassian being of the same general weapons payload and speed, could probably handle Klingons, but would be really out gunned when taking on Romulans and Borg. The Galaxy-class being the top-of-the-line for the series would of course be the best for taking on the Romulans and Borg. Better shielding, phasers, speed, more torpedoes, etc... What do you all think. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hello Tom. A couple of things. 1. Using current or destroyed ships. I think that using current ships would be the way to go. However to do this, you might need to expand the range of years so this means you might not be able to stick with just TNG era. Otherwise, the number of ships will be limited. One ship you did not mention was the USS Kyro commanded by Captain Edward Jellico. This ship and captain were featured in the two part story in season six, Chain of Command. I don't know if I have the name of the ship or the captain spelled correctly. In any case, there is another ship to use. 2. Klingons. One of the nice things about Klingon ships is they don't advance as much as Romulan and other enemy ships. I think by TNG's time, the K12 or K14 ships were in service. In Enterprise, they talk about K3 and K5 ships. In original series I think it's the K7 ships. So you see, if 80 years later they are just at K12, then there were a few advancements, but not much. -- Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion. -- Isaiah 52:8 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
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Hi Raul, Thanks for the date corrections. I also never figured out why Warf was away from DS9 in Insurection, but I believe Insurection was suppose to be in 2374 during the Dominion war. If so that doesn't discount his Ambassidor status, and his presents in Nemesis is explained by him being at Riker and Troi's wedding when all heck broke loose. Anyway, like you said none of this has any bearing on the game so let's get back to the game. Smile. Raul A. Gallegos wrote: TNG was from 2364 to 2370 DS9 was from 2369 to 2375 Voyager was from 2371 to 2377 Generations was in 2371 First contact was in 2373 initially anyway smile Insurection was in 2376 or 2377, I have not verified this Nemesis was in 2379 They messed up on Worf. At the end of DS9, he was to be the new embassedor. Although it was not clear where he was to be stationed, it was referred that he would mainly be located in the Klingon home world. Why is it then, that in Insurection, he was said to be away from DS9 temporarily. Also, in Nemesis, he was re-assigned to the Enterprise. Did the Klingon Embassedorship not work out then? I have not looked into this deeply and it really does not concern the game, but was more of a side note when I was writing the years above. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Raul, Snip I think that using current ships would be the way to go. End snip I think so as well as it is is more realistic. Still destroyed ships could be used in a pinch. Snip However to do this, you might need to expand the range of years so this means you might not be able to stick with just TNG era. End snip Well, I am hoping to place the game sometime around 2369 or so. Around that time line we had the House of Duras causing problems for the Federation so they could be used to explain away the Klingons. Also around that time the Cardassians may have just moved out of Bajoran space, but they still caused problems for the Federation. Then in seasons 6 and 7 2369 and 2370 we still had encountered with the Romulans. There is shows like Face of the Enemy where the Kahzara came from and the one show Commander Sela captured Geordi. So during that time line we can easily put in place our little war. How the Cardassians, Romulans, and House of Duras hook up would have to be explained, but interesting concept right? Snip One ship you did not mention was the USS Kyro commanded by Captain Edward Jellico End snip I do remember it. As I recall it was an Excelsior class Explorer.They were quite common on TNG. We had Repulse, Hood, Kyro, Melborn, Crazy Horse, and several others were Excelsior-Class in design. Snip One of the nice things about Klingon ships is they don't advance as much as Romulan and other enemy ships. End snip Well, what I have observed is the Klingons like the Federation use both modern and older classes of ships. For example, during Redemption the Vor'cha was featured, but the House of Duras forces were using much older classes and designs. Since I am thinking of using them as the Klingons those older classes could be used. Good luck getting synthetic speech saying Klingon names of ships though. They often don't come out right no matter the synth being used. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi, Well, that is one possability and one way of looking at it. If you have the beginner level you might have say 8 ships and by level expert you only have 4 or something like that. I'll stick it in my cap to think about. Christopher Bartlett wrote: Absolutely mix the ship classes, the more the better. What about providing different numbers of friendly and enemy ships as an option to increase difficulty, rather than varying the enemy's toughness? ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hello Tom. If the story line was made around 2369/70 that would be great. The Duras family could be the Klingons the Federation has to fight against. I like that idea. On one quick side note, you are probably more right than me on the year of Insurection. I remember Picard saying the Federation needed more allies because of the Dominion war. That indicates that Insurection happens during the Dominion war, possibly during season 7 of DS9, season 5 of Voyager, year 2375. Now that I think on this a little more. You could always use destroyed ships and full out war against the Klingons by stating at the beginning of the game that this is an alternate reality. This way even if the war we play in the game takes place in let's say year 2366 or 2367, right in the middle of TNG, then by using an alternative reality, you could get away with using ships like the Yomato which was destroyed. What do you think? * Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-12-29 13:00]: Well, I am hoping to place the game sometime around 2369 or so. Around that time line we had the House of Duras causing problems for the Federation so they could be used to explain away the Klingons. Also around that time the Cardassians may have just moved out of Bajoran space, but they still caused problems for the Federation. Then in seasons 6 and 7 2369 and 2370 we still had encountered with the Romulans. There is shows like Face of the Enemy where the Kahzara came from and the one show Commander Sela captured Geordi. So during that time line we can easily put in place our little war. How the Cardassians, Romulans, and House of Duras hook up would have to be explained, but interesting concept right? -- And the king of Israel answered and said, Tell him, Let not him that girdeth on his harness boast himself as he that putteth it off. -- 1 Kings 20:11 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Mix 'em up. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi all, I've been doing allot of thinking about STFC 2.0, and I have decided personally to redesign STFC 2.0 as a strictly TNG game. This means the ships, bases, etc will be based on the STING series. However, I have one question about this. On TNG they often attempted to show off the new Galaxy class such as Enterprise and Yamato, but often as not most of the ships seen on the show Hood, Magellan, Repulse, and many others were based on the older Excelsior and Myranda-class designs. The Ambassador-Class also made an appearance or two. So the basic question is would you like your entire fleet comprised of the Galaxy-class, or would you like the fleet to be more realistic being made up of various different ships with different weapons payloads, speeds, shielding sensors, etc. Personally, I think the mixed fleet is more interesting. With the fleet being mixed up it completely changes the tactical situation. An Excelsior could easily face off with a Cardassian being of the same general weapons payload and speed, could probably handle Klingons, but would be really out gunned when taking on Romulans and Borg. The Galaxy-class being the top-of-the-line for the series would of course be the best for taking on the Romulans and Borg. Better shielding, phasers, speed, more torpedoes, etc... What do you all think. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Now using runabouts is an excellent idea--scouting for data would give you an awesome advantage in the game. Ken Downey President DreamTechInteractive! And, Coming soon, Blind Comfort! The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hello Tom. I think having different class ships will be a better way to go. I was thinking, there is also the intrepid class ships like Voyager and a few others. Small, but fast. What about run about class shuttles? Basically, they are beefed up shuttles, no match for a Klingon, but many run abouts can be used to gather data on enemy where abouts, and several of these can take on one or two enemy ships. Then there is the Promethius class ships. I think it was a class in any case. They were designed as fighting ships during the Dominion war. Can't remember if Promethius was the name of the ship or if it was the class. Cheers. -- For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; -- 1 Corinthians 15:3 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi all, I've been doing allot of thinking about STFC 2.0, and I have decided personally to redesign STFC 2.0 as a strictly TNG game. This means the ships, bases, etc will be based on the STING series. However, I have one question about this. On TNG they often attempted to show off the new Galaxy class such as Enterprise and Yamato, but often as not most of the ships seen on the show Hood, Magellan, Repulse, and many others were based on the older Excelsior and Myranda-class designs. The Ambassador-Class also made an appearance or two. So the basic question is would you like your entire fleet comprised of the Galaxy-class, or would you like the fleet to be more realistic being made up of various different ships with different weapons payloads, speeds, shielding sensors, etc. Personally, I think the mixed fleet is more interesting. With the fleet being mixed up it completely changes the tactical situation. An Excelsior could easily face off with a Cardassian being of the same general weapons payload and speed, could probably handle Klingons, but would be really out gunned when taking on Romulans and Borg. The Galaxy-class being the top-of-the-line for the series would of course be the best for taking on the Romulans and Borg. Better shielding, phasers, speed, more torpedoes, etc... What do you all think. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hello Tom. I think having different class ships will be a better way to go. I was thinking, there is also the intrepid class ships like Voyager and a few others. Small, but fast. What about run about class shuttles? Basically, they are beefed up shuttles, no match for a Klingon, but many run abouts can be used to gather data on enemy where abouts, and several of these can take on one or two enemy ships. Then there is the Promethius class ships. I think it was a class in any case. They were designed as fighting ships during the Dominion war. Can't remember if Promethius was the name of the ship or if it was the class. Cheers. -- For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; -- 1 Corinthians 15:3 Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Raul, The Intrepid-class and the Prometheus-class were not launched until after TNG had ended. The Intrepid-class was first introduced in ST Voyager, and so was the Prometheus-class for that matter. However, after being introduced on voyager they were seen during the Dominion war on DS9. I am thinking somewhere during the later seasons of TNG. For example the Romulan warbird Kahzara was seen in season 6. The Goraxus in season 5 and again in season 7. The Devoras was in the epasode with the Romulan spy posing as a Vulcan. The Terix was seen in the epasode with the Pegasus. So most of the ships in the game are from TNG mid series. I'd of course have to pick Fed ships that were still hopefully active by then. The Yamato is one of those examples I would like to use, but I think it might have been blown apart by the iconian weapon by the time of when most of this takes place. Not to mention Wolf-359 which pretty much fried everything from seasons 1 through 3. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Thom, They say that variety is the spice of life. So variety it is. Rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question. Hi all, I've been doing allot of thinking about STFC 2.0, and I have decided personally to redesign STFC 2.0 as a strictly TNG game. This means the ships, bases, etc will be based on the STING series. However, I have one question about this. On TNG they often attempted to show off the new Galaxy class such as Enterprise and Yamato, but often as not most of the ships seen on the show Hood, Magellan, Repulse, and many others were based on the older Excelsior and Myranda-class designs. The Ambassador-Class also made an appearance or two. So the basic question is would you like your entire fleet comprised of the Galaxy-class, or would you like the fleet to be more realistic being made up of various different ships with different weapons payloads, speeds, shielding sensors, etc. Personally, I think the mixed fleet is more interesting. With the fleet being mixed up it completely changes the tactical situation. An Excelsior could easily face off with a Cardassian being of the same general weapons payload and speed, could probably handle Klingons, but would be really out gunned when taking on Romulans and Borg. The Galaxy-class being the top-of-the-line for the series would of course be the best for taking on the Romulans and Borg. Better shielding, phasers, speed, more torpedoes, etc... What do you all think. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi Charles, Yeah, I would think having different kinds of ships would make for some very interesting battles. Charles Rivard wrote: I would think that, in all games, the more realistic and versatile, the better. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] A quick STFC 2.0 question.
Hi, I personally would like to see as many ships from the TNG, Voyageur, and DS 9 era ships as much as possible since they all take place around the same time. just a thought if it is possible. Rich - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward Hi Charles, Yeah, I would think having different kinds of ships would make for some very interesting battles. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
