RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Randy Lyons]

I haven't played since my mother died. I was occupied with other things for
a couple of weeks and since I'm now too far behind.
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
 
Sure you do! :-) Have you spoken to Randy yet so we can pick against his
picks? :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
Well, I mean it this time! 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _  

From: Shane Ford  
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:04:38 -0700
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
 
Bah humbug! You've been saying that for weeks now. I don't believe you! :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore! 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _  

From: "John Bowers"  
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400
To: ; 
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
 
Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday
in
Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.
And
a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4.  
 
For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit,
John Dee,
John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.
 
They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,
Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer
at 31-17.
 
We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at
Oklahoma State,
so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning
to get your picks in.  
 
http://pickem.g8r.com
 
John and Oz
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Oliver Barry]

I was thinking of getting a chicken and some cracked corn.  

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Platt
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:13 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Close eyes, throw darts, hope for best!

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Sure you do! :-) Have you spoken to Randy yet so we can pick against his
picks? :-)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

Well, I mean it this time! 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


  _  


From: Shane Ford  

Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:04:38 -0700

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Bah humbug! You've been saying that for weeks now. I don't believe you! :-)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore! 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


  _  


From: "John Bowers"  

Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400

To: ; 

ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday
in

Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.
And

a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4.  

 

For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit,
John Dee,

John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.

 

They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,

Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer
at 31-17.

 

We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at
Oklahoma State,

so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning

to get your picks in.  

 

http://pickem.g8r.com

 

John and Oz

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Ti

RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Oliver Barry]

Zookish would look good to me.  I'm bringing in a Phat Phil 4-8!

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Cecilia
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:26 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Dumbest game ever.  I don't know why we keep torturing ourselves by playing
it.  

 

Right there with the Zookish 7-5... in fact, that's my overall average.  I
hate this game.

 

Cee

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: oli...@bobparks.com 

To: Gator   Talk 

Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:45 PM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore! 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


  _  


From: "John Bowers"  

Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400

To: ; 

ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday
in

Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.
And

a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4.  

 

For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit,
John Dee,

John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.

 

They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,

Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer
at 31-17.

 

We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at
Oklahoma State,

so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning

to get your picks in.  

 

http://pickem.g8r.com

 

John and Oz

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

[gatortalk] Kentucky Game + Father's Day

[Randy Lyons]

Other than missing the GatorNet Tailgate (which was EXTREMELY
disappointing), I had an absolutely amazing weekend!
 
My daughter purchased tickets to the game as a Father's Day gift some time
back. Little did I know the tickets were in Champions Club seating. I was
blown away by the accommodations, the food, the air conditioning, the
escalator, the view. I could go on and on, but more on that later. J
 
Anyway, Steve sent me the GPS coordinates for the tailgate before I left
Chattanooga. I punched them in and saw that they indeed took me to
Gainesville. I didn't zoom in, which was a mistake. We got to Gainesville
around 2:30 and made a couple of stops to pick up Gator paraphernalia
(jerseys, etc) since the game would be over so late and our hotel room was
in Lake City.
 
Around 3:00, we started looking for the tailgate. The GPS took me down 13th
street. Wayy down 13th. It almost appeared to be taking me down to
Paynes Prairie area, so I called Steve. Voicemail. He called me. Gave me
rough verbal directions. Did I mention I am TERRIBLE with verbal directions?
L
 
Got back to campus and traffic was horrendous! Headed toward Lake Alice and
ran into a detour. Followed detour signs, got turned around, lost, GPS
dying, verbal directions gone, and starting to get worried we wouldn't find
a place to park.
 
Suddenly, I saw a landmark I recognized! We were back at University Ave and
13th St! How did we do THAT? Sigh. Bladder about to bust. Stopped at gas
station. Leon called. "Where are you?" I tried to recount my last hour of
traffic-hell and gave up. It was now getting close to 4:00. We needed to
find a parking spot soon before they filled up.
 
Found a lot at 10th St and 4th Ave with room left. Long hike, but I didn't
care. I was bummed out by missing the tailgate. We started walking toward
University Ave, and I started feeling better just being out of the car and
the traffic. THIS was familiar! THIS was great! THIS is the way it SHOULD
be!
 
Anyway, as we made our way down University Ave to BHGSAFF, I felt like I had
died and gone to heaven. I realized later that that was just the "foyer".
The REAL heaven was up in the Champions Club!
 
We rode up three different escalators to get to the Champions Club and the
last 20-30 feet, we were greeted with a blast of air conditioning. I was
amazed! Air conditioning? At a gator game? 
 
We arrived in the lobby of the Champions Club and it looked like a small
airport. There was carpeting, couches, wall monitors everywhere with the
Bama-Arkansas game playing, and a buffet at each end of the club area that
was to die for! We loaded up on carbs for the game, and then stepped through
the glass doors to our seats. AMAZING view of the field! I was almost moved
to tears. I don't know how many times I thanked my daughter, but it wasn't
enough.
 
Anyway, one of the things that I found interesting is that there were only
about 500 people in that section, and we shared four (2 men and 2 women)
HUGE restrooms in the air conditioning. No lines. Again, heaven. J
 
The game was, as you know, the best of the season so far. Gators dominated
and made the trip even better than I could ever imagined. After the game, we
began our walk back to car, stopped to enjoy the post-game band celebration
with a crowd of 500-600 people, then followed the band as we made our way
back to 4th Ave.
 
It was an absolutely amazing weekend with an amazing daughter! It was truly
a "once in a lifetime experience" because as cheap as I am, I would NEVER
pay for Champions Club seating. My apologies to Steve and the rest of the
group of tailgaters for my being a no-show. I REALLY missed seeing all of
you. L
 
I uploaded a couple of real short videos to www.qik.com/randylyons. Due to
using the GPS so much before the game, my battery was going dead in my
phone, or I would've taken more videos.
 
One more time. "Thank you, Heather!" J
 
Randy
 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

[gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

  UF-Blog-666x100.jpg


Gator offense finds its identity



By
 LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now
that we have confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna
go."




-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Keith Baldwin]

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense
finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

  Image removed by
sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg


Gator offense finds its identity



By
 LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now
that we have confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna
go."



-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<>

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Darlene Goodfellow]

Uh, Keith, Debose's injury involved his hamstring becoming completely 
unattached from the bone. Last season for him involved surgery and rehab, not 
exactly condusive for learning a system. In addition, Urban indicated they had 
to simplify things for Debose, which allowed him to practice well enough this 
week to earn playing time. 

:D
  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Baldwin 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:23 AM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


  We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years - 
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have 
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

   

  That says - serious coaching problems.  

   

  Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?  And 
have confidence in them?

   

  Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen 
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

   

  How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at 
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

   

  Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these excuses 
- for why players are not ready to play after several years in the system.  

   

  Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?  What 
the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn't they 
have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing him on 
the plays?

   

  There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard are 
excuses.

   

  I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good things. 
 But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of a major 
problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not being paid $3 
million (or whatever) to fix it.  

   

  We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap 
the ball. 

   

  Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

   

  This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

   

   

  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity

   

  Scott,

  I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field passes 
you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

   

   

  Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

  Real Estate Broker

  Bob Parks Realty

  1517 Hunt Club Blvd

  Gallatin TN 37066

  Phone: 615-826-4040

  Fax: 615-822-2027

  Mobile: 615-972-4239

   

   

   



  Gator offense finds its identity

  By LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

  Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to the 
Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I want to 
say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had. (We had) a 
lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the play action pass 
and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now that we have 
confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna go."



  -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


  -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<>

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Jay Cicone]

The two headed QB is back. We will see much more Burton. It will be just
like Leak and Tebow all over again. Brantley will run a pro style
offense and Burton will run the spread. That's a lot to prepare for
defensively.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:29 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Uh, Keith, Debose's injury involved his hamstring becoming completely
unattached from the bone. Last season for him involved surgery and
rehab, not exactly condusive for learning a system. In addition, Urban
indicated they had to simplify things for Debose, which allowed him to
practice well enough this week to earn playing time. 

 

:D

- Original Message - 

From: Keith Baldwin   

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:23 AM

Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com]
Gator offense finds its identity

 

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system
for years - and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight
- we don't have confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true
freshmen?  And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing
true freshmen on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the
system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and
Richardson at Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of
these excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several
years in the system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the
plays?  What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around
rehabing?  Why didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there
next to the hot tub quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all
I've heard are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some
good things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable
and speaks of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then
again I am not being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run
routes, and snap the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use
to do to develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were
ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
[mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com]
Gator offense finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down
field passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready
to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

   


Gator offense finds its identity



By LARRY VETTEL
 
FightinGators.com  

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was
critical to the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going
forward. "I want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big
drives we had. (We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the
drop back and the play action pass and we're going to move in that
direction. We have to. Now that we have confidence in our receivers
that's the direction we're gonna go."

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball
Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball
Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny
Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatorn

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Steve McKibben]

---  Keith Baldwin  wrote:
There are serious problems in developing these studs – and
all I’ve heard are excuses.

I've read some analysis, from someone that has a much greater understanding of 
what goes into player development, and the game in general at this level than I 
do. And while not completely giving the coaches a pass on all of this, he does 
detail a lot of the "reasons" that he believes are behind the offense's 
sluggish start to the season.

It makes sense to me, but if "reasons" always equals "excuses" to you, then 
it's probably not worth anyone's time to list them for you, or yours to read 
them.

To each his own.

Steve
 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"...  
It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.

How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.


 




From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years – and 
now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don’t have 
confidence in them or they don’t have confidence ?!?!
 
That says – serious coaching problems.  
 
Why is the defense able to play – and now start – so many true freshmen?  And 
have confidence in them?
 
Granted defense is easier than offense – but we are comparing true freshmen on 
defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 
How are other teams – like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at 
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina – able to do it?  

 
Oliver – I am not going off on you – but on this topic - all of these excuses – 
for why players are not ready to play after several years in the system.  

 
Debose sat out all last year – and this year he doesn’t know the plays?  What 
the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn’t they 
have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing him on 
the plays?
 
There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
excuses.
 
I am not calling for firing the coaches – obviously they do some good things.  
But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of a major 
problem.   I don’t know what the fix is – but then again I am not being paid $3 
million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 
We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap the 
ball. 

 
Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
develop 
 players so that once they hit the big time – they were ready.
 
This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
 
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds 
its identity
 
Scott,
I think this might be why we haven’t seen a lot of the long down field passes 
you’ve been wanting.  It’s the receivers who weren’t ready to go.
 
 
Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 
 
Gator offense finds its identity

By LARRY VETTEL
FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to the 
Gator win and it’s something fans will see more of going forward. “I want to 
say 
we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had. (We had) a lot of 
first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the play action pass and 
we’re going to move in that direction. We have to. Now that we have confidence 
in our receivers that’s the direction we’re gonna go.”


-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us<>

[gatortalk] bama

[Jay Cicone]

They will take us to the woodshed.


-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Darlene Goodfellow]

Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but there 
are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the angst 
some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming clearer 
that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat of our SEC 
schedule. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Lucas 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


  Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"... 
 It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.

  How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.


   



--
  From: Keith Baldwin 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


  We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years – 
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don’t have 
confidence in them or they don’t have confidence ?!?!



  That says – serious coaching problems.  



  Why is the defense able to play – and now start – so many true freshmen?  And 
have confidence in them?



  Granted defense is easier than offense – but we are comparing true freshmen 
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  



  How are other teams – like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at 
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina – able to do it?  



  Oliver – I am not going off on you – but on this topic - all of these excuses 
– for why players are not ready to play after several years in the system.  



  Debose sat out all last year – and this year he doesn’t know the plays?  What 
the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn’t they 
have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing him on 
the plays?



  There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
excuses.



  I am not calling for firing the coaches – obviously they do some good things. 
 But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of a major 
problem.   I don’t know what the fix is – but then again I am not being paid $3 
million (or whatever) to fix it.  



  We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap 
the ball. 



  Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
develop  players so that once they hit the big time – they were ready.



  This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  





  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity



  Scott,

  I think this might be why we haven’t seen a lot of the long down field passes 
you’ve been wanting.  It’s the receivers who weren’t ready to go.





  Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

  Real Estate Broker

  Bob Parks Realty

  1517 Hunt Club Blvd

  Gallatin TN 37066

  Phone: 615-826-4040

  Fax: 615-822-2027

  Mobile: 615-972-4239









  Gator offense finds its identity

  By LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

  Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to the 
Gator win and it’s something fans will see more of going forward. “I want to 
say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had. (We had) a 
lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the play action pass 
and we’re going to move in that direction. We have to. Now that we have 
confidence in our receivers that’s the direction we’re gonna go.”



  -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


  -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

  -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Steve McKibben]

Scott, I think you have it backwards. Until they *are* perfect, none of us 
should be willing to accept their inherent mediocrity.

--- Scott Lucas  wrote:

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"...  
It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.

How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
lousy/players are lousy". 

I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.

The team is very young, talented or not.

11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.

O line was injured in first two games.

All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.

Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!

If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.

What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
we have a long shot at doing it this year! 

What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't we
beat the Packers?

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
are 4-0.


How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
perfect.

 


 

 

  _  

From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator offense finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

  Image removed by
sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg


Gator offense finds its identity



By
 LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now
tha

RE: [gatortalk] bama

[Oliver Barry]

I'm not even going to watch!!

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:58 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] bama

 

They will take us to the woodshed.

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Jay Cicone]

I agree. We saw some glimmer of what this offense really is on Saturday.
The first 3 games were pretty much vanilla/win ugly affairs.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:06 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of
the angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also
becoming clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense
for the meat of our SEC schedule. 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Scott Lucas   

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com]
Gator offense finds its identity

 

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an
"entitlement fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are
really happy we are 4-0.


How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after
all, perfect.

 


 

 





From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com]
Gator offense finds its identity

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system
for years - and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight
- we don't have confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true
freshmen?  And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing
true freshmen on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the
system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and
Richardson at Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of
these excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several
years in the system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the
plays?  What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around
rehabing?  Why didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there
next to the hot tub quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all
I've heard are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some
good things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable
and speaks of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then
again I am not being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run
routes, and snap the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use
to do to develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were
ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
[mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator offense finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down
field passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready
to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

   


Gator offense finds its identity



By LARRY VETTEL
 
FightinGators.com  

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was
critical to the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going
forward. "I want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big
drives we had. (We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the
drop back and the play action pass and we're going to move in that
direction. We 

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it
matters, he's a lousy player anyway.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the
angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming
clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat
of our SEC schedule. 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Scott   Lucas 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
are 4-0.


How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
perfect.

 


 

 


  _  


From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator offense finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

  Image removed by
sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg


Gator offense finds its identity



By
 LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now
that we have confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna
go."

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerf

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

And here I sit like a happy dummy being really pleased with the rapid 
development of the team and thrilled that Dubose is back and doing so well.  
Perhaps I need therapy to develop more cares and worries.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Steve McKibben 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:41:36 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


--- Keith Baldwin  wrote:

There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
excuses.
>

I've read some analysis, from someone that has a much greater understanding of 
what goes into player development, and the game in general at this level than I 
do. And while not completely giving the coaches a pass on all of this, he does 
detail a lot of the "reasons" that he believes are behind the offense's 
sluggish 
start to the season.

It makes sense to me, but if "reasons" always equals "excuses" to you, then 
it's 
probably not worth anyone's time to list them for you, or yours to read them.

To each his own.

Steve
 -- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

Scott has seen the light and become an evangelist.   :)
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Scott Lucas 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:52:30 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"...  
It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.

How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.


 




From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years – and 
now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don’t have 
confidence in them or they don’t have confidence ?!?!
 
That says – serious coaching problems.  
 
Why is the defense able to play – and now start – so many true freshmen?  And 
have confidence in them?
 
Granted defense is easier than offense – but we are comparing true freshmen on 
defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 
How are other teams – like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at 
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina – able to do it?  

 
Oliver – I am not going off on you – but on this topic - all of these excuses – 
for why players are not ready to play after several years in the system.  

 
Debose sat out all last year – and this year he doesn’t know the plays?  What 
the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn’t they 
have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing him on 
the plays?
 
There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
excuses.
 
I am not calling for firing the coaches – obviously they do some good things.  
But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of a major 
problem.   I don’t know what the fix is – but then again I am not being paid $3 
million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 
We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap the 
ball. 

 
Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
develop 
 players so that once they hit the big time – they were ready.
 
This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
 
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds 
its identity
 
Scott,
I think this might be why we haven’t seen a lot of the long down field passes 
you’ve been wanting.  It’s the receivers who weren’t ready to go.
 
 
Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 
 
Gator offense finds its identity

By LARRY VETTEL
FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to the 
Gator win and it’s something fans will see more of going forward. “I want to 
say 
we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had. (We had) a lot of 
first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the play action pass and 
we’re going to move in that direction. We have to. Now that we have confidence 
in our receivers that’s the direction we’re gonna go.”


-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
20

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Darlene Goodfellow]

He injured his foot when a UTn defensive lineman stepped on it and didn't 
appear to be obviously limping when he went to the locker room on Saturday. 
I've heard he's wearing an inflatable cast and that he will likely try to play 
but it may be a nagging, season-long injury. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Oliver Barry 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


  Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it 
matters, he's a lousy player anyway.

   

  Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

  Real Estate Broker

  Bob Parks Realty

  1517 Hunt Club Blvd

  Gallatin TN 37066

  Phone: 615-826-4040

  Fax: 615-822-2027

  Mobile: 615-972-4239

   

   


--

  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity

   

  Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but there 
are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the angst 
some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming clearer 
that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat of our SEC 
schedule. 

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Scott Lucas 

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator 
offense finds its identity

 

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement 
fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 
4-0.


How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, 
perfect.

 


 

 




From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator 
offense finds its identity

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years - 
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have 
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?  
And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen 
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at 
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these 
excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the 
system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?  
What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn't 
they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing 
him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard 
are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good 
things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of 
a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not being 
paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap 
the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field 
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 



Gator offense finds its identity

By LARRY VETTEL
FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balan

Re: [gatortalk] bama

[Arthur Polhill]

I'm glad you pointed that out.  

I think the drinking should begin immediately and we should start focusing 
on LSU. I started last night with shrimp etoufee at Harry's.  Paula's 
pecan-encrusted catfish was to-die-for.  Even if LSU beats us, we eat and 
drink well with them in the conference.


A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:57:41 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] bama


They will take us to the woodshed.-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

Somebody here must be using sarcasm.  Am I right, Jay?
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Steve McKibben 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:07:34 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity
 

Scott, I think you have it backwards. Until they *are* perfect, none of us 
should be willing to accept their inherent mediocrity.

--- Scott Lucas  wrote:


>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"...  
>It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect. 
>-- 
>
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] bama

[Arthur Polhill]

Why cheer.  There is absolutely no way we can win.  I think I'll go to the 
beach 
and snorkel.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Oliver Barry 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:07:46 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] bama


I’m not even going to watch!!
 
Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
GallatinTN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 



From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:58 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] bama
 
They will take us to the woodshed.-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

That bum's had a sprained foot for more than two weeks.  Whines and runs, 
whines 
and runs...then gets in the hot tub and scedules a massage...it's getting old.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Oliver Barry 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:09:25th AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it 
matters, 
he’s a lousy player anyway.
 
Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
GallatinTN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 



From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
Of Darlene Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity
 
Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but there 
are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the angst 
some 
fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming clearer 
that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat of our SEC 
schedule. 

 
 
- Original Message - 
>From:Scott Lucas 
>To:gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent:Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>Subject:Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds its identity
> 
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"...  
>It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.
> 
>
> 
> 
>


>From:Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds its identity
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years – and 
>now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don’t have 
>confidence in them or they don’t have confidence ?!?!
> 
>That says – serious coaching problems.  
> 
>Why is the defense able to play – and now start – so many true freshmen?  And 
>have confidence in them?
> 
>Granted defense is easier than offense – but we are comparing true freshmen on 
>defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>How are other teams – like Cam Newton at Auburn , Ingrahm and Richardson at 
>Alabama ,  Lattimore at South Carolina – able to do it?  
>
> 
>Oliver – I am not going off on you – but on this topic - all of these excuses 
>– 
>for why players are not ready to play after several years in the system.  
>
> 
>Debose sat out all last year – and this year he doesn’t know the plays?  What 
>the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn’t 
>they 
>have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing him on 
>the plays?
> 
>There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
>excuses.
> 
>I am not calling for firing the coaches – obviously they do some good things.  
>But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of a major 
>problem.   I don’t know what the fix is – but then again I am not being paid 
>$3 
>million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap the 
>ball. 
>
> 
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
>develop 
> players so that once they hit the big time – they were ready.
> 
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
> 
> 
>From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On 
>Behalf 
>Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds 
>its identity
> 
>Scott,
>I think this might be why we haven’t seen a lot of the long down field passes 
>you’ve been wanting.  It’s the receivers who weren’t ready to go.
> 
> 
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>Real Estate Broker
>Bob Parks Realty
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>GallatinTN 37066
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> 
> 
>Gator offense finds its identity
>
>By LARRY VETTEL
>FightinGators.com
>
>Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to the 
>Gator win and it’s something fans will see more of going forward. “I want to 
>say 
>we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had. (We had) a lot 
>of 
>first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the play action pass and 
>we’re going to move in that direction. We have to. Now that we have confidence 

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

Thanks for that analogy, Jay; it reminded me of a girl I dated at UF.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


I agree. We saw some glimmer of what this offense really is on Saturday. The 
first 3 games were pretty much vanilla/win ugly affairs.
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Darlene Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:06 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity
 
Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but there 
are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the angst 
some 
fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming clearer 
that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat of our SEC 
schedule. 

 
 
- Original Message - 
>From:Scott Lucas 
>To:gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent:Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>Subject:Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds its identity
> 
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"...  
>It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.
> 
>
> 
> 
>


>From:Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds its identity
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years – and 
>now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don’t have 
>confidence in them or they don’t have confidence ?!?!
> 
>That says – serious coaching problems.  
> 
>Why is the defense able to play – and now start – so many true freshmen?  And 
>have confidence in them?
> 
>Granted defense is easier than offense – but we are comparing true freshmen on 
>defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>How are other teams – like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at 
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina – able to do it?  
>
> 
>Oliver – I am not going off on you – but on this topic - all of these excuses 
>– 
>for why players are not ready to play after several years in the system.  
>
> 
>Debose sat out all last year – and this year he doesn’t know the plays?  What 
>the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn’t 
>they 
>have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing him on 
>the plays?
> 
>There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
>excuses.
> 
>I am not calling for firing the coaches – obviously they do some good things.  
>But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of a major 
>problem.   I don’t know what the fix is – but then again I am not being paid 
>$3 
>million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap the 
>ball. 
>
> 
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
>develop 
> players so that once they hit the big time – they were ready.
> 
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
> 
> 
>From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>Of 
>Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds 
>its identity
> 
>Scott,
>I think this might be why we haven’t seen a lot of the long down field passes 
>you’ve been wanting.  It’s the receivers who weren’t ready to go.
> 
> 
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>Real Estate Broker
>Bob Parks Realty
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> 
>Gallatin TN 37066
> 
>Gator offense finds its identity
>
>By LARRY VETTEL
>FightinGators.com
>
>Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to the 
>Gator win and it’s something fans will see more of going forward. “I want to 
>say 
>we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had. (We had) a lot 
>of 
>first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the play action pass and 
>we’re going to move in that direction. We have to. Now that we have confidence 
>in our receivers that’s the direction we’re gonna go.”
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 Natio

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Jay Cicone]

.I sure don't.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:31 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

And here I sit like a happy dummy being really pleased with the rapid
development of the team and thrilled that Dubose is back and doing so
well.  Perhaps I need therapy to develop more cares and worries.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 



From: Steve McKibben 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:41:36 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

---  Keith Baldwin  wrote:

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've
heard are excuses.


I've read some analysis, from someone that has a much greater
understanding of what goes into player development, and the game in
general at this level than I do. And while not completely giving the
coaches a pass on all of this, he does detail a lot of the "reasons"
that he believes are behind the offense's sluggish start to the season.

It makes sense to me, but if "reasons" always equals "excuses" to you,
then it's probably not worth anyone's time to list them for you, or
yours to read them.

To each his own.

Steve

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

Well, he told Rainey's girlfriend that one of his own linemen stepped on it.  
That sounds right.  I don't think too many UK players were able to get that 
close.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:21:24 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


He injured his foot when a UTn defensive lineman stepped on it and didn't 
appear 
to be obviously limping when he went to the locker room on Saturday. I've heard 
he's wearing an inflatable cast and that he will likely try to play but it may 
be a nagging, season-long injury. 

 
 
- Original Message - 
>From: Oliver Barry 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds its identity
>
>
>Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it 
>matters, 
>he’s a lousy player anyway.
> 
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>Real Estate Broker
>Bob Parks Realty
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>GallatinTN 37066
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> 
>


>From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On 
>Behalf 
>Of Darlene Goodfellow
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>finds its identity
> 
>Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but there 
>are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the angst 
>some 
>fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming clearer 
>that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat of our 
>SEC 
>schedule. 
>
> 
> 
>- Original Message - 
>>From:Scott Lucas 
>>To:gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>>Sent:Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>>Subject:Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>>finds its identity
>> 
>>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement 
>>fan"...  
>>It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.
>>
>>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
>>


>>From:Keith Baldwin 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>>finds its identity
>>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years – 
>>and 
>>now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don’t have 
>>confidence in them or they don’t have confidence ?!?!
>> 
>>That says – serious coaching problems.  
>> 
>>Why is the defense able to play – and now start – so many true freshmen?  And 
>>have confidence in them?
>> 
>>Granted defense is easier than offense – but we are comparing true freshmen 
>>on 
>>defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>>
>> 
>>How are other teams – like Cam Newton at Auburn , Ingrahm and Richardson at 
>>Alabama ,  Lattimore at South Carolina – able to do it?  
>>
>> 
>>Oliver – I am not going off on you – but on this topic - all of these excuses 
>>– 
>>for why players are not ready to play after several years in the system.  
>>
>> 
>>Debose sat out all last year – and this year he doesn’t know the plays?  What 
>>the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why didn’t 
>>they 
>>have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub quizzing him 
>>on 
>>the plays?
>> 
>>There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
>>excuses.
>> 
>>I am not calling for firing the coaches – obviously they do some good 
>>things.  
>>But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks of a major 
>>problem.   I don’t know what the fix is – but then again I am not being paid 
>>$3 
>>million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>>
>> 
>>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap 
>>the 
>>ball. 
>>
>> 
>>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to 
>>develop 
>> players so that once they hit the big time – they were ready.
>> 
>>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>> 
>> 
>>From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>Behalf 
>>Of Oliver Barry
>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
>>finds 
>>its identity
>> 
>>Scott,
>>I think this might be why we haven’t seen a lot of the long down field passes 
>>you’ve been wanting.  It’s the receivers who weren’t ready to go.
>>

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Keith Baldwin]

With all that sitting around - Debose can't study the playbook, watch a ton
of film, practices - and learn the plays?  Seems to me like - that is what
you do if you are injured?  If you're injured - don't you spend more time
studying - not less time?

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:29 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Uh, Keith, Debose's injury involved his hamstring becoming completely
unattached from the bone. Last season for him involved surgery and rehab,
not exactly condusive for learning a system. In addition, Urban indicated
they had to simplify things for Debose, which allowed him to practice well
enough this week to earn playing time. 

 

:D

- Original Message - 

From: Keith Baldwin   

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:23 AM

Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense
finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

  Image removed by
sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg


Gator offense finds its identity



By
 LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now
that we have confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna
go."

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Footbal

RE: [gatortalk] bama

[Keith Baldwin]

Don't know about that - but we don't have to win this game.  

 

If we can avoid getting our butts kicked and play a respectful game - and
then win out in the SEC East - maybe we can develop enough by the SEC CG -
to win that game.  

 

The second Alabama game is the important one.  

 

This game will be a good measuring stick.  

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:58 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] bama

 

They will take us to the woodshed.

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

[gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Arthur Polhill]

The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy Lyons; 
that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently got lost 
while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I did tell 
them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.


A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Keith Baldwin]

You know me - I just like to "stir the pot" occasionally.  

 

Isn't this a gator discussion group?  

 

Or is this a - let's all not think - let's only say the Gators are great -
group ;-)

 

I wish we had more gator technical discussions - not less.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:53 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
are 4-0.


How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
perfect.

 


 

 

  _  

From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator offense finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

  Image removed by
sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg


Gator offense finds its identity



By
 LARRY VETTEL
  FightinGators.com

Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now
that we have confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna
go."

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 Nationa

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

Have you seen Randy?
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:32:51 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


…..I sure don’t.
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:31 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity
 
And here I sit like a happy dummy being really pleased with the rapid 
development of the team and thrilled that Dubose is back and doing so well.  
Perhaps I need therapy to develop more cares and worries.
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
 
 



From:Steve McKibben 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:41:36 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity
--- Keith Baldwin  wrote:
There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
excuses.

I've read some analysis, from someone that has a much greater understanding of 
what goes into player development, and the game in general at this level than I 
do. And while not completely giving the coaches a pass on all of this, he does 
detail a lot of the "reasons" that he believes are behind the offense's 
sluggish 
start to the season.

It makes sense to me, but if "reasons" always equals "excuses" to you, then 
it's 
probably not worth anyone's time to list them for you, or yours to read them.

To each his own.

Steve 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Jay Cicone]

I heard a fraternity dropped him off naked in Paynes Prairie?

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

 

The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy
Lyons; that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he
frequently got lost while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be
in Argentina.  I did tell them that he had sounded confused that last
time I talked to him.

 

 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Kentucky Game + Father's Day

[Keith Baldwin]

WOW.  You know what I learned from all of this?  I needed to go kick my
daughters in the butt.  

 

They're claiming they're only 10 and 12 years old.  They don't have jobs,
blah, blah, blah, blah.   

 

I told them to quit acting like girls.  

 

They're like - "but we are girls"

 

I looked them in the eye and told them - "that's no excuse". 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Lyons
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:18 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Cc: Heather; lly...@cbmtn.com; Vonda Lyons; 'Frieda'; Erik; Chris Bevil;
clusa...@yahoo.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Kentucky Game + Father's Day

 

Other than missing the GatorNet Tailgate (which was EXTREMELY
disappointing), I had an absolutely amazing weekend!

 

My daughter purchased tickets to the game as a Father's Day gift some time
back. Little did I know the tickets were in Champions Club seating. I was
blown away by the accommodations, the food, the air conditioning, the
escalator, the view. I could go on and on, but more on that later. J

 

Anyway, Steve sent me the GPS coordinates for the tailgate before I left
Chattanooga. I punched them in and saw that they indeed took me to
Gainesville. I didn't zoom in, which was a mistake. We got to Gainesville
around 2:30 and made a couple of stops to pick up Gator paraphernalia
(jerseys, etc) since the game would be over so late and our hotel room was
in Lake City.

 

Around 3:00, we started looking for the tailgate. The GPS took me down 13th
street. Wayy down 13th. It almost appeared to be taking me down to
Paynes Prairie area, so I called Steve. Voicemail. He called me. Gave me
rough verbal directions. Did I mention I am TERRIBLE with verbal directions?
L

 

Got back to campus and traffic was horrendous! Headed toward Lake Alice and
ran into a detour. Followed detour signs, got turned around, lost, GPS
dying, verbal directions gone, and starting to get worried we wouldn't find
a place to park.

 

Suddenly, I saw a landmark I recognized! We were back at University Ave and
13th St! How did we do THAT? Sigh. Bladder about to bust. Stopped at gas
station. Leon called. "Where are you?" I tried to recount my last hour of
traffic-hell and gave up. It was now getting close to 4:00. We needed to
find a parking spot soon before they filled up.

 

Found a lot at 10th St and 4th Ave with room left. Long hike, but I didn't
care. I was bummed out by missing the tailgate. We started walking toward
University Ave, and I started feeling better just being out of the car and
the traffic. THIS was familiar! THIS was great! THIS is the way it SHOULD
be!

 

Anyway, as we made our way down University Ave to BHGSAFF, I felt like I had
died and gone to heaven. I realized later that that was just the "foyer".
The REAL heaven was up in the Champions Club!

 

We rode up three different escalators to get to the Champions Club and the
last 20-30 feet, we were greeted with a blast of air conditioning. I was
amazed! Air conditioning? At a gator game? 

 

We arrived in the lobby of the Champions Club and it looked like a small
airport. There was carpeting, couches, wall monitors everywhere with the
Bama-Arkansas game playing, and a buffet at each end of the club area that
was to die for! We loaded up on carbs for the game, and then stepped through
the glass doors to our seats. AMAZING view of the field! I was almost moved
to tears. I don't know how many times I thanked my daughter, but it wasn't
enough.

 

Anyway, one of the things that I found interesting is that there were only
about 500 people in that section, and we shared four (2 men and 2 women)
HUGE restrooms in the air conditioning. No lines. Again, heaven. J

 

The game was, as you know, the best of the season so far. Gators dominated
and made the trip even better than I could ever imagined. After the game, we
began our walk back to car, stopped to enjoy the post-game band celebration
with a crowd of 500-600 people, then followed the band as we made our way
back to 4th Ave.

 

It was an absolutely amazing weekend with an amazing daughter! It was truly
a "once in a lifetime experience" because as cheap as I am, I would NEVER
pay for Champions Club seating. My apologies to Steve and the rest of the
group of tailgaters for my being a no-show. I REALLY missed seeing all of
you. L

 

I uploaded a couple of real short videos to www.qik.com/randylyons. Due to
using the GPS so much before the game, my battery was going dead in my
phone, or I would've taken more videos.

 

One more time. "Thank you, Heather!" J

 

Randy

 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOI

Re: [gatortalk] bama

[Arthur Polhill]

We must focus on a team we can beat...LSU.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:50:07 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] bama


Don’t know about that – but we don’t have to win this game.  
 
If we can avoid getting our butts kicked and play a respectful game – and then 
win out in the SEC East – maybe we can develop enough by the SEC CG – to win 
that game.  

 
The second Alabama game is the important one.  
 
This game will be a good measuring stick.  
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:58 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] bama
 
They will take us to the woodshed.
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Keith Baldwin]

<< What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
season>>

 

Go back and read my post why offense is so important THIS year.  Since we
losing most of our offensive line and the end of this year - I expect next
year to be worse than this year.  

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:07 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
lousy/players are lousy". 

I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.

The team is very young, talented or not.

11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.

O line was injured in first two games.

All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.

Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!

If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.

What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
we have a long shot at doing it this year! 

What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't we
beat the Packers?

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
are 4-0.


How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
perfect.

 


 

 

  _  

From: Keith Baldwin 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!

 

That says - serious coaching problems.  

 

Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
And have confidence in them?

 

Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  

 

How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  

 

Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
system.  

 

Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
quizzing him on the plays?

 

There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
are excuses.

 

I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  

 

We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
the ball. 

 

Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.

 

This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator offense finds its identity

 

Scott,

I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

 

  Image removed by
sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg


Gator offense finds i

Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Arthur Polhill]

...in the gene pool!?
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:59:26 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?


I heard a fraternity dropped him off naked in Paynes Prairie?
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?
 
The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy Lyons; 
that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently got lost 
while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I did tell 
them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.
 
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players were 
lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.   
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.  
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half of 
what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.  I 
am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be more 
imaginative and not lump everyone together.  

So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is not 
a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our 
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't match 
your own?  

Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>lousy/players are lousy". 
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
>develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.
>
> 
>
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsfl

Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

[Arthur Polhill]

Don't watch Sunday ball...it's dumb.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:33:43 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow


He was inactive for the game (something about NFL 3rd QB rules) and was 
therefore ineligible to play. 

- Original Message - 
>From: Cecilia 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow
>
>
>Morons... they've got the secret weapon and didn't use it???
> 
>Cee
>- Original Message - 
>>From: Helen Huntley 
>>To: gatortalk 
>>Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:43 PM
>>Subject: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow
>>
>>Did you see the Broncos failed to score in four attempts from the Colt's 
>>one-yard line?  
>>
>>Somehow it did not occur to them to let Tebow have a chance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>Helen Huntley
>>(727) 823-3801www.helenhuntley.com
>>-- 
>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>>2008 National Football Champions | 
>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Randy Lyons]

LOL! Yes, he was a little confused. Normally, I spend the night before a
game in MacClenny, and then drive down to Mecca in plenty of time for
several hours of tailgating, etc. This time, however, I drove down from
Atlanta the day of the game and barely got there in time for the gates to
open. I was feeling a little pressure to say the least. J
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?
 
The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy
Lyons; that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently
got lost while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I
did tell them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.
 
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

Their record is perfect.  I thought you would see and understand the tongue in 
cheek aspect.  But apparently differing opinions are no longer welcome here or 
respected.

But thank you for stating my case for me.  I have been saying all along we 
shouldn't be accepting mediocrity and have been lambasted.  It should be 
interesting how the list moderator is treated for stating the same.



"Steve McKibben"  wrote:

>Scott, I think you have it backwards. Until they *are* perfect, none of us 
>should be willing to accept their inherent mediocrity.
>
>--- Scott Lucas  wrote:
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement fan"...  
>It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we are 4-0.
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, perfect.
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Shane Ford]

Oh, I'm sorry Randy! Now I see why Oliver is sucking so bad at pick em this 
year! How was your bike ride to your dad's hometown.

Shane 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:26 AM, "Randy Lyons"  wrote:

> I haven’t played since my mother died. I was occupied with other things for a 
> couple of weeks and since I’m now too far behind…
> 
>  
> 
> Randy
> 
>  
> 
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Shane Ford
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:34 PM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
> 
>  
> 
> Sure you do! :-) Have you spoken to Randy yet so we can pick against his 
> picks? :-)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
> 
> Well, I mean it this time!
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> From: Shane Ford 
> 
> Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> 
> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:04:38 -0700
> 
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> 
> ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> 
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
> 
>  
> 
> Bah humbug! You've been saying that for weeks now. I don't believe you! :-)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
> 
> This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore!
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> From: "John Bowers" 
> 
> Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> 
> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400
> 
> To: ; 
> 
> ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> 
> Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
> 
>  
> 
> Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday in
> 
> Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.  And
> 
> a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4. 
> 
>  
> 
> For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit, John 
> Dee,
> 
> John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.
> 
>  
> 
> They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,
> 
> Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer 
> at 31-17.
> 
>  
> 
> We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at Oklahoma 
> State,
> 
> so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning
> 
> to get your picks in. 
> 
>  
> 
> http://pickem.g8r.com
> 
>  
> 
> John and Oz
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow 

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Shane Ford]

Steve, what source are you referring to? I'm curious as I would love to read it 
for my own understanding. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Steve McKibben  wrote:

> ---  Keith Baldwin  wrote:
> There are serious problems in developing these studs – and all I’ve heard are 
> excuses.
> 
> I've read some analysis, from someone that has a much greater understanding 
> of what goes into player development, and the game in general at this level 
> than I do. And while not completely giving the coaches a pass on all of this, 
> he does detail a lot of the "reasons" that he believes are behind the 
> offense's sluggish start to the season.
> 
> It makes sense to me, but if "reasons" always equals "excuses" to you, then 
> it's probably not worth anyone's time to list them for you, or yours to read 
> them.
> 
> To each his own.
> 
> Steve
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Arthur Polhill]

I always knew there was a bed for you in MacClenny.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Randy Lyons 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:08:16 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?


LOL! Yes, he was a little confused. Normally, I spend the night before a game 
in 
MacClenny, and then drive down to Mecca in plenty of time for several hours of 
tailgating, etc. This time, however, I drove down from Atlanta the day of the 
game and barely got there in time for the gates to open. I was feeling a little 
pressure to say the least. J
 
Randy
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?
 
The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy Lyons; 
that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently got lost 
while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I did tell 
them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.
 
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

Find where I said that.  Or we can continue these petty games you pollyannas 
want to play.   

And yeah, I pulled out pollyanna.  Old school reference.  I'm sure you 
remember  


"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it
>matters, he's a lousy player anyway.
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
>there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the
>angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming
>clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat
>of our SEC schedule. 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>- Original Message - 
>
>From: Scott   Lucas 
>
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>  _  
>
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
>develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.
>
> 
>
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
> ] Gator offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Scott,
>
>I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
>passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  Image removed by
>sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg
>
>
>Gator offense finds its identity
>
>
>
>By
>&feedID=4320> LARRY VETTEL
>  FightinGators.com
>
>Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
>the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
>want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
>(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
>play action pass and we're going to

RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Jay Cicone]

The frat boys claim to have his jorts. They caught him accosting the SAE
lion.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:06 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

 

...in the gene pool!?
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 



From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:59:26 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

I heard a fraternity dropped him off naked in Paynes Prairie?

 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

Couldn't agree more.  

Pass the kool-aid. 


"Keith Baldwin"  wrote:

>You know me - I just like to "stir the pot" occasionally.  
>
> 
>
>Isn't this a gator discussion group?  
>
> 
>
>Or is this a - let's all not think - let's only say the Gators are great -
>group ;-)
>
> 
>
>I wish we had more gator technical discussions - not less.
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
>develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.
>
> 
>
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
> ] Gator offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Scott,
>
>I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
>passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  Image removed by
>sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg
>
>
>Gator offense finds its identity
>
>
>
>By
>&feedID=4320> LARRY VETTEL
>  FightinGators.com
>
>Florida head coach Urban Meyer says the offensive balance was critical to
>the Gator win and it's something fans will see more of going forward. "I
>want to say we were fifty-fifty run, pass on all those big drives we had.
>(We had) a lot of first down mixing (the run with) the drop back and the
>play action pass and we're going to move in that direction. We have to. Now
>that we have confidence in our receivers that's the direction we're gonna
>go."
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions | 
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> 
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions | 
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier

RE: [gatortalk] bama

[Scott Lucas]

I've already said we can win this one  for the first time this season, I 
believe that. 

But you can't talk Xs and Os when its all about yes'es and no's here...



"Keith Baldwin"  wrote:

>Don't know about that - but we don't have to win this game.  
>
> 
>
>If we can avoid getting our butts kicked and play a respectful game - and
>then win out in the SEC East - maybe we can develop enough by the SEC CG -
>to win that game.  
>
> 
>
>The second Alabama game is the important one.  
>
> 
>
>This game will be a good measuring stick.  
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Jay Cicone
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:58 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] bama
>
> 
>
>They will take us to the woodshed.
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions | 
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

Speaking of MajorDumo, has anyone seen the Randoo0?
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Scott Lucas 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:08:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players were 
lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.  
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.  
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half of 
what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.  I 
am 
not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be more 
imaginative and not lump everyone together.  


So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is not 
a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our 
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't match 
your own?  


Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>lousy/players are lousy". 
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>of a major problem.  I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV 

Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Scott Lucas]

He was at the game Saturday.  He has been posting on facebook. I would say he 
is just fine, and probably glad he retired before watching fellow gators run 
off other gators. 

Anyone heard from Woody?  Oh wait, his entitlement ran out

"Arthur Polhill"  wrote:

>The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy Lyons; 
>that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently got lost 
>while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I did tell 
>them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.
>
>
>A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
>I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

[Oliver Barry]

I find I'm sick of football by Sunday.  Especially after watching the Gators
on the late game.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:11 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Don't watch Sunday ball...it's dumb.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 

  _  

From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:33:43 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

He was inactive for the game (something about NFL 3rd QB rules) and was
therefore ineligible to play. 

- Original Message - 

From: Cecilia   

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:27 AM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Morons... they've got the secret weapon and didn't use it???

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: Helen Huntley   

To: gatortalk   

Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:43 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Did you see the Broncos failed to score in four attempts from the Colt's
one-yard line?  

Somehow it did not occur to them to let Tebow have a chance.

 



-- 

Helen Huntley

(727) 823-3801

www.helenhuntley.com  

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Oliver Barry]

Hey, the season's not over yet!  Besides, I wanted to give you a chance to
do well then lower the boom later on!

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:39 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Oh, I'm sorry Randy! Now I see why Oliver is sucking so bad at pick em this
year! How was your bike ride to your dad's hometown.

 

Shane 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:26 AM, "Randy Lyons"  wrote:

I haven't played since my mother died. I was occupied with other things for
a couple of weeks and since I'm now too far behind.

 

Randy

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Sure you do! :-) Have you spoken to Randy yet so we can pick against his
picks? :-)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM,  
oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

Well, I mean it this time! 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


  _  


From: Shane Ford < 
goufgat...@bellsouth.net> 

Sender:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:04:38 -0700

To:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com<
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com>

ReplyTo:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Bah humbug! You've been saying that for weeks now. I don't believe you! :-)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM,  
oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore! 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


  _  


From: "John Bowers" <  jbowe...@cfl.rr.com> 

Sender:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400

To: <  gatortalk@googlegroups.com>; <
 gatorn...@googlegroups.com>

ReplyTo:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday
in

Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.
And

a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4.  

 

For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit,
John Dee,

John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.

 

They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,

Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer
at 31-17.

 

We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at
Oklahoma State,

so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning

to get your picks in.  

 

  http://pickem.g8r.com

 

John and Oz

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at  
www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at  
www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at  
www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at  
www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National

RE: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

[Jay Cicone]

You should have been on the lake with me at 6:45

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:24 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

I find I'm sick of football by Sunday.  Especially after watching the
Gators on the late game.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 



From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:11 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Don't watch Sunday ball...it's dumb.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 



From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:33:43 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

He was inactive for the game (something about NFL 3rd QB rules) and was
therefore ineligible to play. 

- Original Message - 

From: Cecilia   

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:27 AM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Morons... they've got the secret weapon and didn't use it???

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: Helen Huntley   

To: gatortalk   

Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:43 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Did you see the Broncos failed to score in four attempts
from the Colt's one-yard line?  

Somehow it did not occur to them to let Tebow have a
chance.

 



-- 

Helen Huntley

(727) 823-3801

www.helenhuntley.com  

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National
Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National
Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966),
Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball
Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball
Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny
Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] bama

[Jay Cicone]

I thought this was an if's and but's place. No wonder I'm confused.

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:21 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] bama

I've already said we can win this one  for the first time this
season, I believe that. 

But you can't talk Xs and Os when its all about yes'es and no's here...



"Keith Baldwin"  wrote:

>Don't know about that - but we don't have to win this game.  
>
> 
>
>If we can avoid getting our butts kicked and play a respectful game -
and
>then win out in the SEC East - maybe we can develop enough by the SEC
CG -
>to win that game.  
>
> 
>
>The second Alabama game is the important one.  
>
> 
>
>This game will be a good measuring stick.  
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Jay Cicone
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:58 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] bama
>
> 
>
>They will take us to the woodshed.
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions | 
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball
Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball
Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball
Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball
Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

[gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

[Steve McKibben]

I really enjoyed spending some time with the list members that were able to 
make it to the tailgate on Saturday.

Compared to the last two picnics, this was a very low key affair, and, one 
might even say, a bit of a bust. I'll take the blame for that - the planning 
was certainly less than stellar. 

I waited too long to let everyone know the where/when details for one thing. I 
wanted to have it when Randy L. would be in town, and he'd told me quite some 
time ago that the Kentucky game was likely the only one he'd be able to make it 
to.

Of course it wasn't until a couple of weeks ahead of time that they announced 
the game time. The late kickoff afforded the opportunity to meet before the 
game, but as I found out, that presents its own set of issues. People have 
their own pre-game rituals, places to park, etc.

Despite all of the obstacles, we had a smallish, but nice gathering. I got to 
our chosen spot by Lake Alice just about noon, in plenty of time to secure a 
spot near one of the picnic tables there. 

The frame for our canopy had been wrecked by high winds at our Relay For Life 
event back in May, but Leslie bought me a replacement frame not long after. As 
soon as we parked, Jason and I started setting up the canopy and as we tried to 
raise it, pieces of it were breaking off left and right! Great - now we 
wouldn't have shelter when those predicted rainstorms swept through. You know - 
the rainstorms that caused me to abandon plans to bring my grill and cook out.

If you were in Gainesville on Saturday you're probably wondering, "what 
rainstorms?".  Exactly. Turns out it would have been a perfect day for grilling 
- mea culpa!

No doubt the biggest disappointment was that Randy L. and his daughter were 
unable to join us. A disclaimer (excuse) here - I don't own anything that has 
GPS capabilities and have never used them when traveling. My son who lives a 
ten minute walk from the tailgate spot told me he'd get me GPS coordinates so 
that I could provide them to Randy. To my absolute shock, he never got around 
to doing that. 

I googled "UF bat house GPS coordinates" and, at a site called wikimapia.org, 
coordinates ( 29°38'39"N   82°21'45"W ) were returned that looked reasonably 
close to Gainesville on my map (remember maps?) and there was a satellite image 
of the roof of the bat house. So I felt secure in the knowledge that what I 
sent to Randy could lead him to us...until I got his phone call saying that he 
was WAY south of town!

Bottom line - I enjoyed spending some time with Helen, Leon & Paula, Darlene 
and her husband Todd, and Randy Platt and his friend Jim. I pledge to try and 
do a better job next time with the planning and execution phases of this event.

In the meantime, any of you are welcome to stop by and say hello, visit, have a 
cold beverage or two, and a bite to eat (weather permitting!) before any late 
games or after any early ones. You can find us directly across the street from 
the bat house (if you need GPS coordinates you're on your own) by the shores of 
lovely Lake Alice.

All Gators are welcome - be they pollyannas, worry warts, or anything in 
between.

Steve






-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the players
are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
expressing themselves?"
Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
to.
Is that "running you off?"
What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half
of what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  

So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
match your own?  

Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>lousy/players are lousy". 
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't
we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around re

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

Sorry, I meant to say he's a lazy player, anyway.

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:15 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Find where I said that.  Or we can continue these petty games you pollyannas
want to play.   

And yeah, I pulled out pollyanna.  Old school reference.  I'm sure you
remember  


"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it
>matters, he's a lousy player anyway.
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
>there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the
>angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming
>clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the
meat
>of our SEC schedule. 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>- Original Message - 
>
>From: Scott   Lucas 
>
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>  _  
>
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>of a major problem.   I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am
not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
>develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.
>
> 
>
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
> ] Gator offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Scott,
>
>I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
>passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  Image removed by
>sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg
>
>
>Gator offense finds its identity

RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Jay Cicone]

HAH!!!

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

He was at the game Saturday.  He has been posting on facebook. I would
say he is just fine, and probably glad he retired before watching fellow
gators run off other gators. 

Anyone heard from Woody?  Oh wait, his entitlement ran out

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Oliver Barry]

I hear he found it.  It's still out there some where.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:12 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

 

The frat boys claim to have his jorts. They caught him accosting the SAE
lion.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:06 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

 

...in the gene pool!?
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 

  _  

From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:59:26 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

I heard a fraternity dropped him off naked in Paynes Prairie?

 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] bama

[Oliver Barry]

It might help if you talked x's and o's instead of calling the play
"sickening".

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:21 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] bama

I've already said we can win this one  for the first time this season, I
believe that. 

But you can't talk Xs and Os when its all about yes'es and no's here...



"Keith Baldwin"  wrote:

>Don't know about that - but we don't have to win this game.  
>
> 
>
>If we can avoid getting our butts kicked and play a respectful game - and
>then win out in the SEC East - maybe we can develop enough by the SEC CG -
>to win that game.  
>
> 
>
>The second Alabama game is the important one.  
>
> 
>
>This game will be a good measuring stick.  
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Jay Cicone
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:58 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] bama
>
> 
>
>They will take us to the woodshed.
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions | 
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Steve McKibben]

Keith - let's suppose that he (Debose) did sit around and learn the playbook 
while he was injured.

Don't you think that;

With Tebow being replaced by Brantley as starting QB and, with Azzanni 
replacing Gonzalez as WR coach, that a lot of things, such as route trees, etc. 
may have changed?

Do you think book and film study can negate the need for real life application 
of what one has learned? 

And don't you think that he'd need to prove that he's ready in practice before 
he's given a chance to possibly hurt the team by messing up badly in a game?

Debose was the target for several passes on our first couple of drives. Did you 
notice that they were very simple patterns where the ball was delivered very 
quickly to him? I believe that was a reward for him having, according to Meyer, 
his best week of practice ever.

I don't think they could continue throwing the ball to him in the same way all 
night long because the element of surprise was gone, and UK was probably 
defending him in a way that would neccessitate him reading the defenses and 
making the proper route tree adjustments - something he's said to not have a 
firm grasp on yet, therefore he seemed to disappear again.

--- Keith Baldwin wrote:



 
 







With all that sitting around – Debose can’t study the playbook,
watch a ton of film, practices – and learn the plays?  Seems to me like – that 
is
what you do if you are injured?  If you’re injured – don’t you spend more time
studying – not less time?

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Shane Ford]

Oh, I see! Thanks for being such a gentlemen! :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:26 AM, "Oliver Barry"  wrote:

> Hey, the season’s not over yet!  Besides, I wanted to give you a chance to do 
> well then lower the boom later on!
>  
> Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
> Real Estate Broker
> Bob Parks Realty
> 1517 Hunt Club Blvd
> Gallatin TN 37066
> Phone: 615-826-4040
> Fax: 615-822-2027
> Mobile: 615-972-4239
>  
>  
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Shane Ford
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:39 AM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
>  
> Oh, I'm sorry Randy! Now I see why Oliver is sucking so bad at pick em this 
> year! How was your bike ride to your dad's hometown.
>  
> Shane 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:26 AM, "Randy Lyons"  wrote:
> 
>> I haven’t played since my mother died. I was occupied with other things for 
>> a couple of weeks and since I’m now too far behind…
>>  
>> Randy
>>  
>> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Shane Ford
>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:34 PM
>> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
>>  
>> Sure you do! :-) Have you spoken to Randy yet so we can pick against his 
>> picks? :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I mean it this time!
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> From: Shane Ford 
>> Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:04:38 -0700
>> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
>>  
>> Bah humbug! You've been saying that for weeks now. I don't believe you! :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
>> 
>> This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore!
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> 
>> From: "John Bowers" 
>> Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400
>> To: ; 
>> ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
>>  
>> Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday 
>> in
>> Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.  And
>> a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4. 
>>  
>> For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit, 
>> John Dee,
>> John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.
>>  
>> They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,
>> Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer 
>> at 31-17.
>>  
>> We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at 
>> Oklahoma State,
>> so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning
>> to get your picks in. 
>>  
>> http://pickem.g8r.com
>>  
>> John and Oz
>> -- 
>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>> 2008 National Football Champions | 
>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>> -- 
>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>> 2008 National Football Champions | 
>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>> -- 
>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>> 2008 National Football Champions | 
>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 
>> -- 
>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>> 2008 National Football Champions | 
>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>> -- 
>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>> 2008 National Football Champions | 
>> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>> -- 
>> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>> 1996 Nation

RE: [gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

[Oliver Barry]

Don't get a gps.  I find I can't even drive home from the office any longer
without turning mine on.  
They are helpful when you've got a good address, though.

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:23 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

I really enjoyed spending some time with the list members that were able to
make it to the tailgate on Saturday.

Compared to the last two picnics, this was a very low key affair, and, one
might even say, a bit of a bust. I'll take the blame for that - the planning
was certainly less than stellar. 

I waited too long to let everyone know the where/when details for one thing.
I wanted to have it when Randy L. would be in town, and he'd told me quite
some time ago that the Kentucky game was likely the only one he'd be able to
make it to.

Of course it wasn't until a couple of weeks ahead of time that they
announced the game time. The late kickoff afforded the opportunity to meet
before the game, but as I found out, that presents its own set of issues.
People have their own pre-game rituals, places to park, etc.

Despite all of the obstacles, we had a smallish, but nice gathering. I got
to our chosen spot by Lake Alice just about noon, in plenty of time to
secure a spot near one of the picnic tables there. 

The frame for our canopy had been wrecked by high winds at our Relay For
Life event back in May, but Leslie bought me a replacement frame not long
after. As soon as we parked, Jason and I started setting up the canopy and
as we tried to raise it, pieces of it were breaking off left and right!
Great - now we wouldn't have shelter when those predicted rainstorms swept
through. You know - the rainstorms that caused me to abandon plans to bring
my grill and cook out.

If you were in Gainesville on Saturday you're probably wondering, "what
rainstorms?".  Exactly. Turns out it would have been a perfect day for
grilling - mea culpa!

No doubt the biggest disappointment was that Randy L. and his daughter were
unable to join us. A disclaimer (excuse) here - I don't own anything that
has GPS capabilities and have never used them when traveling. My son who
lives a ten minute walk from the tailgate spot told me he'd get me GPS
coordinates so that I could provide them to Randy. To my absolute shock, he
never got around to doing that. 

I googled "UF bat house GPS coordinates" and, at a site called
wikimapia.org, coordinates ( 29°38'39"N   82°21'45"W ) were returned that
looked reasonably close to Gainesville on my map (remember maps?) and there
was a satellite image of the roof of the bat house. So I felt secure in the
knowledge that what I sent to Randy could lead him to us...until I got his
phone call saying that he was WAY south of town!

Bottom line - I enjoyed spending some time with Helen, Leon & Paula, Darlene
and her husband Todd, and Randy Platt and his friend Jim. I pledge to try
and do a better job next time with the planning and execution phases of this
event.

In the meantime, any of you are welcome to stop by and say hello, visit,
have a cold beverage or two, and a bite to eat (weather permitting!) before
any late games or after any early ones. You can find us directly across the
street from the bat house (if you need GPS coordinates you're on your own)
by the shores of lovely Lake Alice.

All Gators are welcome - be they pollyannas, worry warts, or anything in
between.

Steve






-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Oliver Barry]

That's me, gentleman.  Now, go  yourself!!  :-)

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:37 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Oh, I see! Thanks for being such a gentlemen! :-)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:26 AM, "Oliver Barry"  wrote:

Hey, the season's not over yet!  Besides, I wanted to give you a chance to
do well then lower the boom later on!

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 


  _  


From:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com
[mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:39 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Oh, I'm sorry Randy! Now I see why Oliver is sucking so bad at pick em this
year! How was your bike ride to your dad's hometown.

 

Shane 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:26 AM, "Randy Lyons" < 
gatorspo...@epbfi.com> wrote:

I haven't played since my mother died. I was occupied with other things for
a couple of weeks and since I'm now too far behind.

 

Randy

 

From:   gatortalk@googlegroups.com
[mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To:  
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Sure you do! :-) Have you spoken to Randy yet so we can pick against his
picks? :-)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM,  
 oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

Well, I mean it this time! 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


  _  


From: Shane Ford < 
 goufgat...@bellsouth.net> 

Sender:  
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:04:38 -0700

To:  
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com<
  
gatortalk@googlegroups.com>

ReplyTo:  
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Bah humbug! You've been saying that for weeks now. I don't believe you! :-)

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM,  
 oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore! 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


  _  


From: "John Bowers" < 
 jbowe...@cfl.rr.com> 

Sender:  
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400

To: < 
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com>; <
  
gatorn...@googlegroups.com>

ReplyTo:  
 gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

 

Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday
in

Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.
And

a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4.  

 

For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit,
John Dee,

John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.

 

They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,

Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer
at 31-17.

 

We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at
Oklahoma State,

so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning

to get your picks in.  

 

    http://pickem.g8r.com

 

John and Oz

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at  
 www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Footbal

RE: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

[Oliver Barry]

I bet it was beautiful.

I haven't had my canoe/kayak out this year.  We're finally getting some
cooler temps, so it will be more fun now.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:26 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

You should have been on the lake with me at 6:45..

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:24 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

I find I'm sick of football by Sunday.  Especially after watching the Gators
on the late game.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:11 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Don't watch Sunday ball...it's dumb.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 

  _  

From: Darlene Goodfellow 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:33:43 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

He was inactive for the game (something about NFL 3rd QB rules) and was
therefore ineligible to play. 

- Original Message - 

From: Cecilia   

To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:27 AM

Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Morons... they've got the secret weapon and didn't use it???

 

Cee

- Original Message - 

From: Helen   Huntley 

To: gatortalk   

Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:43 PM

Subject: [gatortalk] Broncos and Tebow

 

Did you see the Broncos failed to score in four attempts from the Colt's
one-yard line?  

Somehow it did not occur to them to let Tebow have a chance.

 



-- 

Helen Huntley

(727) 823-3801

www.helenhuntley.com  

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (199

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Steve McKibben]

--- Scott Lucas wrote:

> From: Scott Lucas 

> But apparently differing opinions are no
> longer welcome here or respected.



I'm confused (not that that's anything new).

Yeah, I disagree with some of your opinions. Aren't you advocating for a forum 
where differing opinions can be aired. You can say I'm wrong, I can say you're 
wrong.

At the end of the day, in the big picture, I'm pretty sure that we want the 
same thing.

Some people will find a silver lining in a winless season. Some will find flaws 
in an undefeated one.

Life goes on...

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Arthur Polhill]

What!?  Did he have a paint brush.  He was last seen only two blocks from the 
GatorTalk gathering?
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:12:09 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?


The frat boys claim to have his jorts. They caught him accosting the SAE lion.
 
From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of 
Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:06 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?
 
...in the gene pool!?
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
 
 



From:Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 11:59:26 AM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?
I heard a fraternity dropped him off naked in Paynes Prairie?
 -- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

[Jerry Belloit]

Actually, I think meeting at a pre-game on-campus location is a good idea
for the future.  It should reduce the parking problem since people would be
getting to the area a little earlier to come to the function.  I like the
idea of meeting somewhere on a somewhat regular basis so it becomes a
"tradition".  If it’s a noon game, perhaps we could have a Breakfast
cookout.  Meeting sufficiently early would allow people to do some of their
own pre-game things after the GatorNet activity.

Perhaps we could try something like this during BB season as well,
especially if it is in January.

Jerry

p.s.  I just wish the drive from PA was shorter! 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

I really enjoyed spending some time with the list members that were able to
make it to the tailgate on Saturday.

Compared to the last two picnics, this was a very low key affair, and, one
might even say, a bit of a bust. I'll take the blame for that - the planning
was certainly less than stellar. 

I waited too long to let everyone know the where/when details for one thing.
I wanted to have it when Randy L. would be in town, and he'd told me quite
some time ago that the Kentucky game was likely the only one he'd be able to
make it to.

Of course it wasn't until a couple of weeks ahead of time that they
announced the game time. The late kickoff afforded the opportunity to meet
before the game, but as I found out, that presents its own set of issues.
People have their own pre-game rituals, places to park, etc.

Despite all of the obstacles, we had a smallish, but nice gathering. I got
to our chosen spot by Lake Alice just about noon, in plenty of time to
secure a spot near one of the picnic tables there. 

The frame for our canopy had been wrecked by high winds at our Relay For
Life event back in May, but Leslie bought me a replacement frame not long
after. As soon as we parked, Jason and I started setting up the canopy and
as we tried to raise it, pieces of it were breaking off left and right!
Great - now we wouldn't have shelter when those predicted rainstorms swept
through. You know - the rainstorms that caused me to abandon plans to bring
my grill and cook out.

If you were in Gainesville on Saturday you're probably wondering, "what
rainstorms?".  Exactly. Turns out it would have been a perfect day for
grilling - mea culpa!

No doubt the biggest disappointment was that Randy L. and his daughter were
unable to join us. A disclaimer (excuse) here - I don't own anything that
has GPS capabilities and have never used them when traveling. My son who
lives a ten minute walk from the tailgate spot told me he'd get me GPS
coordinates so that I could provide them to Randy. To my absolute shock, he
never got around to doing that. 

I googled "UF bat house GPS coordinates" and, at a site called
wikimapia.org, coordinates ( 29°38'39"N   82°21'45"W ) were returned that
looked reasonably close to Gainesville on my map (remember maps?) and there
was a satellite image of the roof of the bat house. So I felt secure in the
knowledge that what I sent to Randy could lead him to us...until I got his
phone call saying that he was WAY south of town!

Bottom line - I enjoyed spending some time with Helen, Leon & Paula, Darlene
and her husband Todd, and Randy Platt and his friend Jim. I pledge to try
and do a better job next time with the planning and execution phases of this
event.

In the meantime, any of you are welcome to stop by and say hello, visit,
have a cold beverage or two, and a bite to eat (weather permitting!) before
any late games or after any early ones. You can find us directly across the
street from the bat house (if you need GPS coordinates you're on your own)
by the shores of lovely Lake Alice.

All Gators are welcome - be they pollyannas, worry warts, or anything in
between.

Steve






-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Arthur Polhill]

Remember!?  Oliver?  He's the founder of the Polyanna Tabernacle Choir.  A 
grand Poohbah of the angelic hummers, and I don't mean vehicles, and smilers 
union.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Scott Lucas 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:14:30 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity

Find where I said that.  Or we can continue these petty games you pollyannas 
want to play.  


And yeah, I pulled out pollyanna.  Old school reference.  I'm sure you 
remember  



"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it
>matters, he's a lousy player anyway.
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
>there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the
>angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming
>clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the meat
>of our SEC schedule. 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>- Original Message - 
>
>From: Scott   Lucas 
>
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>  _  
>
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>of a major problem.  I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
>develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.
>
> 
>
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
> ] Gator offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Scott,
>
>I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down field
>passes you've been wanting.  It's the receivers who weren't ready to go.
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  Image removed by
>sender. UF-Blog-666x100.jpg
>
>
>Gator offense finds its 

RE: [gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

[Oliver Barry]

How long of a drive is that, Jerry?
It has got to be a couple of days.  It takes me about 10 from here to
Pittsburg, if I remember correctly.

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jerry Belloit
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:55 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

Actually, I think meeting at a pre-game on-campus location is a good idea
for the future.  It should reduce the parking problem since people would be
getting to the area a little earlier to come to the function.  I like the
idea of meeting somewhere on a somewhat regular basis so it becomes a
"tradition".  If it’s a noon game, perhaps we could have a Breakfast
cookout.  Meeting sufficiently early would allow people to do some of their
own pre-game things after the GatorNet activity.

Perhaps we could try something like this during BB season as well,
especially if it is in January.

Jerry

p.s.  I just wish the drive from PA was shorter! 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] GatorTalk Gathering

I really enjoyed spending some time with the list members that were able to
make it to the tailgate on Saturday.

Compared to the last two picnics, this was a very low key affair, and, one
might even say, a bit of a bust. I'll take the blame for that - the planning
was certainly less than stellar. 

I waited too long to let everyone know the where/when details for one thing.
I wanted to have it when Randy L. would be in town, and he'd told me quite
some time ago that the Kentucky game was likely the only one he'd be able to
make it to.

Of course it wasn't until a couple of weeks ahead of time that they
announced the game time. The late kickoff afforded the opportunity to meet
before the game, but as I found out, that presents its own set of issues.
People have their own pre-game rituals, places to park, etc.

Despite all of the obstacles, we had a smallish, but nice gathering. I got
to our chosen spot by Lake Alice just about noon, in plenty of time to
secure a spot near one of the picnic tables there. 

The frame for our canopy had been wrecked by high winds at our Relay For
Life event back in May, but Leslie bought me a replacement frame not long
after. As soon as we parked, Jason and I started setting up the canopy and
as we tried to raise it, pieces of it were breaking off left and right!
Great - now we wouldn't have shelter when those predicted rainstorms swept
through. You know - the rainstorms that caused me to abandon plans to bring
my grill and cook out.

If you were in Gainesville on Saturday you're probably wondering, "what
rainstorms?".  Exactly. Turns out it would have been a perfect day for
grilling - mea culpa!

No doubt the biggest disappointment was that Randy L. and his daughter were
unable to join us. A disclaimer (excuse) here - I don't own anything that
has GPS capabilities and have never used them when traveling. My son who
lives a ten minute walk from the tailgate spot told me he'd get me GPS
coordinates so that I could provide them to Randy. To my absolute shock, he
never got around to doing that. 

I googled "UF bat house GPS coordinates" and, at a site called
wikimapia.org, coordinates ( 29°38'39"N   82°21'45"W ) were returned that
looked reasonably close to Gainesville on my map (remember maps?) and there
was a satellite image of the roof of the bat house. So I felt secure in the
knowledge that what I sent to Randy could lead him to us...until I got his
phone call saying that he was WAY south of town!

Bottom line - I enjoyed spending some time with Helen, Leon & Paula, Darlene
and her husband Todd, and Randy Platt and his friend Jim. I pledge to try
and do a better job next time with the planning and execution phases of this
event.

In the meantime, any of you are welcome to stop by and say hello, visit,
have a cold beverage or two, and a bite to eat (weather permitting!) before
any late games or after any early ones. You can find us directly across the
street from the bat house (if you need GPS coordinates you're on your own)
by the shores of lovely Lake Alice.

All Gators are welcome - be they pollyannas, worry warts, or anything in
between.

Steve






-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SU

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Keith Baldwin]

<< Keith just accused anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".>>

Please show me where I said that ...

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the players
are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
expressing themselves?"
Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
to.
Is that "running you off?"
What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half
of what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  

So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
match your own?  

Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on 
>this list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are 
>lousy/players are lousy".
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the 
>team has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in 
>the pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a 
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next 
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy 
>coaches we have a long shot at doing it this year!
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why 
>can't
we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator 
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement 
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really 
>happy we are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, 
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator 
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for 
>years - and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - 
>we don't have confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true 
>freshmen on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for
years.
>
> 
>
>How are other teams 

Re: [gatortalk] bama

[Arthur Polhill]

Speaking of confused, have you seen Randy?
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Jay Cicone 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:22:34 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] bama

I thought this was an if's and but's place. No wonder I'm confused.

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:21 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] bama

I've already said we can win this one  for the first time this
season, I believe that. 

But you can't talk Xs and Os when its all about yes'es and no's here...



"Keith Baldwin"  wrote:

>Don't know about that - but we don't have to win this game.  
>
> 
>
>If we can avoid getting our butts kicked and play a respectful game -
and
>then win out in the SEC East - maybe we can develop enough by the SEC
CG -
>to win that game.  
>
> 
>
>The second Alabama game is the important one.  
>
> 
>
>This game will be a good measuring stick.  
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Jay Cicone
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:58 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] bama
>
> 
>
>They will take us to the woodshed.
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions | 
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball
Champions
>2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball
Champions
>2008 National Football Champions  |  
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball
Champions
2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball
Champions
2008 National Football Champions  |  
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel
(1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions  |  
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Arthur Polhill]

But, Woody just got season tickets.  Where's his game report?  Maybe he's with 
Randy.
 A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 





From: Scott Lucas 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:22:50 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

He was at the game Saturday.  He has been posting on facebook. I would say he 
is 
just fine, and probably glad he retired before watching fellow gators run off 
other gators. 


Anyone heard from Woody?  Oh wait, his entitlement ran out

"Arthur Polhill"  wrote:

>The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy Lyons; 
>that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently got lost 
>while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I did tell 
>them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.
>
>
>A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
>I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions  |  
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions  |  
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

What facts?  I am stating opinions...  you are the only one saying things 
without checking facts, and to your own admission.

I'm not afraid of disagreement.  This list used to be great about that, open 
dialogue, discussions, now its just personal at...@ks when you have a differing 
opinion...

Nice.  All kinds of weather? 



"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the players
>are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
>anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
>I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
>you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
>But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
>expressing themselves?"
>Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
>to.
>Is that "running you off?"
>What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>Real Estate Broker
>Bob Parks Realty
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>Gallatin TN 37066
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
>were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
>Apparently, most have an issue with that...
>
>I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.
>Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half
>of what I send.
>
>I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
>I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
>more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  
>
>So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
>not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our
>opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
>match your own?  
>
>Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  
>
>
>
>
>"Oliver Barry"  wrote:
>
>>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>>lousy/players are lousy". 
>>
>>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>>
>>The team is very young, talented or not.
>>
>>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>>
>>O line was injured in first two games.
>>
>>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>>
>>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
>>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>>
>>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>>
>>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
>>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>>
>>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't
>we
>>beat the Packers?
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>>
>>Real Estate Broker
>>
>>Bob Parks Realty
>>
>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>>
>>Gallatin TN 37066
>>
>>Phone: 615-826-4040
>>
>>Fax: 615-822-2027
>>
>>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>  _  
>>
>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>>offense finds its identity
>>
>> 
>>
>>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>>are 4-0.
>>
>>
>>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>>perfect.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>  _  
>>
>>From: Keith Baldwin 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>>offense finds its identity
>>
>>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>>
>> 
>>
>>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>>And have confidence in them?
>>
>> 
>>
>>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>>on defen

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

I'm not offended by the Pollyanna label.  Actually, I'm proud of it.  

I've already been looking for a couple of Bammy fans I know to try to harass
them a little.

No one will be more surprised than me if we lose Saturday.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Remember!?  Oliver?  He's the founder of the Polyanna Tabernacle Choir.  A
grand Poohbah of the angelic hummers, and I don't mean vehicles, and smilers
union.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 

  _  

From: Scott Lucas 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:14:30 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Find where I said that.  Or we can continue these petty games you pollyannas
want to play.  

And yeah, I pulled out pollyanna.  Old school reference.  I'm sure you
remember  


"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it
>matters, he's a lousy player anyway.
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
>there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the
>angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming
>clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the
meat
>of our SEC schedule. 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>- Original Message - 
>
>From: Scott   Lucas 
>
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>  _  
>
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>of a major problem.  I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do to
>develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.
>
> 
>
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday,

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

Or is this a - let's all not think - let's only say the Gators are 
>great - group ;-)

You didn't write this sentence, Keith?
Then, please forgive me for my error.

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Baldwin
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

<< Keith just accused anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".>>

Please show me where I said that ...

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the players
are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
expressing themselves?"
Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
to.
Is that "running you off?"
What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half
of what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  

So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
match your own?  

Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on 
>this list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are 
>lousy/players are lousy".
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the 
>team has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in 
>the pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a 
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next 
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy 
>coaches we have a long shot at doing it this year!
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why 
>can't
we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator 
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement 
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really 
>happy we are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all, 
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

Yes, you are afraid of disagreement.  That's why you're defending yourself
so vehemently now.
Personal attacks?  You just called me a Pollyanna!  :-)

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:00 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

What facts?  I am stating opinions...  you are the only one saying things
without checking facts, and to your own admission.

I'm not afraid of disagreement.  This list used to be great about that, open
dialogue, discussions, now its just personal at...@ks when you have a
differing opinion...

Nice.  All kinds of weather? 



"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the
players
>are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
>anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
>I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
>you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
>But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
>expressing themselves?"
>Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
>to.
>Is that "running you off?"
>What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>Real Estate Broker
>Bob Parks Realty
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>Gallatin TN 37066
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
>were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
>Apparently, most have an issue with that...
>
>I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you
want.
>Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read
half
>of what I send.
>
>I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
>I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
>more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  
>
>So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
>not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice
our
>opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
>match your own?  
>
>Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  
>
>
>
>
>"Oliver Barry"  wrote:
>
>>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>>lousy/players are lousy". 
>>
>>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>>
>>The team is very young, talented or not.
>>
>>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>>
>>O line was injured in first two games.
>>
>>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>>
>>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in
the
>>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>>
>>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>>
>>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy
coaches
>>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>>
>>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't
>we
>>beat the Packers?
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>>
>>Real Estate Broker
>>
>>Bob Parks Realty
>>
>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>>
>>Gallatin TN 37066
>>
>>Phone: 615-826-4040
>>
>>Fax: 615-822-2027
>>
>>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>  _  
>>
>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>>offense finds its identity
>>
>> 
>>
>>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy
we
>>are 4-0.
>>
>>
>>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>>perfect.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>  _  
>>
>>From: Keith Baldwin 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Mon, September 27, 

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Jay Cicone]

Don't forget that he's a charter member of The Southern Hog Polers
Association and a virtuoso on the Swinette.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:57 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 

Remember!?  Oliver?  He's the founder of the Polyanna Tabernacle Choir.
A grand Poohbah of the angelic hummers, and I don't mean vehicles, and
smilers union.
 

A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 

 

 



From: Scott Lucas 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:14:30 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Find where I said that.  Or we can continue these petty games you
pollyannas want to play.  

And yeah, I pulled out pollyanna.  Old school reference.  I'm sure you
remember  


"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it
>matters, he's a lousy player anyway.
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
>there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of
the
>angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also
becoming
>clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the
meat
>of our SEC schedule. 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>- Original Message - 
>
>From: Scott   Lucas 
>
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really
happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>  _  
>
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for
years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't
have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true
freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true
freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for
years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson
at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in
the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?
Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot
tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've
heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and
speaks
>of a major problem.  I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am
not
>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>
> 
>
>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and
snap
>the ball. 
>
> 
>
>Maybe we should go back to a JV team?  That is what schools use to do
to
>develop  players so that once they hit the big time - they were ready.
>
> 
>
>This is what I hope Foley is asking Urban Meyer.  
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Oliver Barry
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:22 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
> ] Gator offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Scott,
>
>I think this might be why we haven't seen a lot of the long down f

[gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face prosecution

[Oliver Barry]

Well, I guess Meyer will get to earn his $3,000,000 now.  What does he do?
The "victim" stood up in court on his behalf.  The charges were lowered to
misdemeanor.  But, Rainey gets six months of probation and counseling.

I'd bet Meyer keeps him off the team for the rest of this year then lets him
back on for next season.  If, he does all the double secret probation stuff
Meyer thinks up for him to get back on the team.

I don't know about you all, but I feel sorry for Rainey.  Sure, it was
stupid, and he should be punished, but I don't think he should have to
sacrifice the whole season if he gets his act back together.

In light of all the arrest stories, I'd guess, as I said earlier, he won't
be back this year.

 

 

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

  _  

From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:05 PM
To: GatorNews
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face
prosecution

 





UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face prosecution

Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:01:33 EDT,

Gator wide receiver Chris Rainey will not face prosecution on a stalking
charge if he stays out of trouble with the law for six months, performs 10
hours of community service and undergoes an anger-management evaluation and
possible counseling, under an agreement reached today with State Attorney
Bill Cervone.

But head football coach Urban Meyer said earlier today that Rainey would not
play in Saturday's game against the University of Alabama.

"Chris Rainey is still not a part of this team," Meyer said. "He's
definitely out this week."

Rainey was arrested Sept. 14 for sending a text message that said "Time to
Die (expletive)" to a women he had dated. He was suspended from the team
following the arrest.

While Rainey had faced a third-degree felony charge of aggravated stalking,
Cervone said in a written statement that he dropped the charge to a
misdemeanor to better reflect the facts of the case. The victim said "she
was more annoyed than threatened" and did not want prosecution, Cervone
said.

"I am not going to consider any request that the case be dropped in its
entirety, however, because I am concerned when young people act in this way
and believe that we should intervene at least to the point of forcing a
cooling off period and some professional counseling on anger management and
related coping skills," he said.

The victim in the case also released a statement, which said she had known
Rainey for three years and he had not displayed violent or threatening
behavior in that time.

"His actions that night were out of character for reasons unknown to us,
which is why we stood up in court on his behalf," the victim said.

Shane Ford

Sent from my iPhone

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Keith Baldwin]

 

<>

 

He has nine months to study the changes to the offense since Tebow and
Gonzalez left.  I doubt the routes have changed completely.  

 

Don't you think anyone that wants to learn the plays and routes - anyone
whose job it is to learn the plays and routes - would pick it up in nine
months?  How did Thompson, Moore, Hines, and all the other WRs do it?  How
did Burton do it?

 

<< And don't you think that he'd need to prove that he's ready in practice
before he's given a chance to possibly hurt the team by messing up badly in
a game?>>



I definitely think that.  I'm not saying put him in the game before he is
ready.   My question is - why isn't he ready?  Why are so many of these guys
on offense - not ready?

 

I don't think that Debose is the answer to our problems.  Maybe one day he
will be.  From what little bit I have read - I think he has mental problems
getting back into the game after being injured.  I also think he has
reservations about getting hit.  

 

 From what I have seen - I would have Hines start at slot, Hammond and Moore
start out wide.  Moore has very few yards after the catch - but grabs most
everything thrown near him.  I love watching Hines run with the ball.  I
think Hammond is a playmaker and our third best receiver.  

 

The problem is - we wasted three games - getting these guys ready to play
this fall.  We could have better used those games for trying new things,
working out kinks, etc.  

 

Seems like our offense was not ready to play till the Kentucky game.

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:37 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

 


Keith - let's suppose that he (Debose) did sit around and learn the playbook
while he was injured.

Don't you think that;

With Tebow being replaced by Brantley as starting QB and, with Azzanni
replacing Gonzalez as WR coach, that a lot of things, such as route trees,
etc. may have changed?

Do you think book and film study can negate the need for real life
application of what one has learned? 

And don't you think that he'd need to prove that he's ready in practice
before he's given a chance to possibly hurt the team by messing up badly in
a game?

Debose was the target for several passes on our first couple of drives. Did
you notice that they were very simple patterns where the ball was delivered
very quickly to him? I believe that was a reward for him having, according
to Meyer, his best week of practice ever.

I don't think they could continue throwing the ball to him in the same way
all night long because the element of surprise was gone, and UK was probably
defending him in a way that would neccessitate him reading the defenses and
making the proper route tree adjustments - something he's said to not have a
firm grasp on yet, therefore he seemed to disappear again.

--- Keith Baldwin wrote:

With all that sitting around - Debose can't study the playbook, watch a ton
of film, practices - and learn the plays?  Seems to me like - that is what
you do if you are injured?  If you're injured - don't you spend more time
studying - not less time?

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face prosecution

[Steve McKibben]

Without saying what the punishment "should be" (I will for $3M a year), my 
guess is  that Rainey will be back on the team within a month. 

--- Oliver Barry  wrote:
Well, I guess Meyer will get to earn his
$3,000,000 now.  What does he do?  The “victim” stood up in court
on his behalf.  The charges were lowered to misdemeanor.  But, Rainey gets six
months of probation and counseling. 

I’d bet Meyer keeps him off the team
for the rest of this year then lets him back on for next season.  If, he does
all the double secret probation stuff Meyer thinks up for him to get back on
the team. 

I don’t know about you all, but I feel
sorry for Rainey.  Sure, it was stupid, and he should be punished, but I don’t
think he should have to sacrifice the whole season if he gets his act back
together. 

In light of all the arrest stories, I’d
guess, as I said earlier, he won’t be back this year. 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Darlene Goodfellow]

Debose had been training for the slot receiver but has been moved to "X" 
receiver, so he's learning new routes and blocking schemes. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Keith Baldwin 
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity


   

  <>

   

  He has nine months to study the changes to the offense since Tebow and 
Gonzalez left.  I doubt the routes have changed completely.  

   

  Don't you think anyone that wants to learn the plays and routes - anyone 
whose job it is to learn the plays and routes - would pick it up in nine 
months?  How did Thompson, Moore, Hines, and all the other WRs do it?  How did 
Burton do it?

   

  << And don't you think that he'd need to prove that he's ready in practice 
before he's given a chance to possibly hurt the team by messing up badly in a 
game?>>



  I definitely think that.  I'm not saying put him in the game before he is 
ready.   My question is - why isn't he ready?  Why are so many of these guys on 
offense - not ready?

   

  I don't think that Debose is the answer to our problems.  Maybe one day he 
will be.  From what little bit I have read - I think he has mental problems 
getting back into the game after being injured.  I also think he has 
reservations about getting hit.  

   

   From what I have seen - I would have Hines start at slot, Hammond and Moore 
start out wide.  Moore has very few yards after the catch - but grabs most 
everything thrown near him.  I love watching Hines run with the ball.  I think 
Hammond is a playmaker and our third best receiver.  

   

  The problem is - we wasted three games - getting these guys ready to play 
this fall.  We could have better used those games for trying new things, 
working out kinks, etc.  

   

  Seems like our offense was not ready to play till the Kentucky game.

   

   

   

  From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
  Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:37 PM
  To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity

   

Keith - let's suppose that he (Debose) did sit around and learn the 
playbook while he was injured.

Don't you think that;

With Tebow being replaced by Brantley as starting QB and, with Azzanni 
replacing Gonzalez as WR coach, that a lot of things, such as route trees, etc. 
may have changed?

Do you think book and film study can negate the need for real life 
application of what one has learned? 

And don't you think that he'd need to prove that he's ready in practice 
before he's given a chance to possibly hurt the team by messing up badly in a 
game?

Debose was the target for several passes on our first couple of drives. 
Did you notice that they were very simple patterns where the ball was delivered 
very quickly to him? I believe that was a reward for him having, according to 
Meyer, his best week of practice ever.

I don't think they could continue throwing the ball to him in the same 
way all night long because the element of surprise was gone, and UK was 
probably defending him in a way that would neccessitate him reading the 
defenses and making the proper route tree adjustments - something he's said to 
not have a firm grasp on yet, therefore he seemed to disappear again.

--- Keith Baldwin wrote:

With all that sitting around - Debose can't study the playbook, watch a 
ton of film, practices - and learn the plays?  Seems to me like - that is what 
you do if you are injured?  If you're injured - don't you spend more time 
studying - not less time?
   

  -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us


  -- 
  GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
  1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
  2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
  2008 National Football Champions | 
  Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
  Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver ChrisRainey won't face prosecution

[oliver]

And, I think he should be. Just send me the $3 mill in small bills. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Steve McKibben 
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:40 
To: 
Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]:   UF wide receiver Chris
 Rainey won't face prosecution

Without saying what the punishment "should be" (I will for $3M a year), my 
guess is  that Rainey will be back on the team within a month. 

--- Oliver Barry  wrote:
Well, I guess Meyer will get to earn his
$3,000,000 now.  What does he do?  The “victim” stood up in court
on his behalf.  The charges were lowered to misdemeanor.  But, Rainey gets six
months of probation and counseling. 

I’d bet Meyer keeps him off the team
for the rest of this year then lets him back on for next season.  If, he does
all the double secret probation stuff Meyer thinks up for him to get back on
the team. 

I don’t know about you all, but I feel
sorry for Rainey.  Sure, it was stupid, and he should be punished, but I don’t
think he should have to sacrifice the whole season if he gets his act back
together. 

In light of all the arrest stories, I’d
guess, as I said earlier, he won’t be back this year. 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Steve McKibben]

How did Thompson, Moore, Hines, and all
the other WRs do it?  How did Burton do it? 

 

Thompson, Hines, and Moore all had the advantage of having done these kind of 
"on the fly" adjustments, in games, before. So there should be less of a 
learning curve. Burton has a limited package as well, but, according to the 
coaches, his football IQ is "off the charts". 

 

I definitely think that.  I’m not saying put him in
the game before he is ready.   My question is – why isn’t
he ready?  Why are so many of these guys on offense – not ready? 

I believe that it's a combination of things. I don't think the coaches are 
completely free of blame in this, but I don't think that it's entirely their 
fault either. As I alluded to earlier, there's a very knowledgeable poster on a 
pay site I subscribe to, that addressed a lot of the details on our offense's 
slow start in a manner that blows away what I could do. I have sent him a 
private message seeking permission to post it here. Even on that site there 
were responses that labled it as nothing more than eloquent excuses, but I 
found it informative, and hopefully, if you get a chance to see it, you will as 
well.

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver ChrisRainey won't face prosecution

[Shane Ford]

I think he should be to! What he did was stupid, but he should get a second 
chance. I don't think his future should be decided by others actions, trends, 
etc. I think each case should be handled separately. I'll bet Meyer gives him a 
second chance this season, but it will come with alot of strings attached. 

Shane Ford
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2010, at 10:24 AM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:

> And, I think he should be. Just send me the $3 mill in small bills. 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> From: Steve McKibben 
> Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
> To: 
> ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris Rainey 
> won't face prosecution
> 
> Without saying what the punishment "should be" (I will for $3M a year), my 
> guess is  that Rainey will be back on the team within a month. 
> 
> --- Oliver Barry  wrote:
> Well, I guess Meyer will get to earn his $3,000,000 now.  What does he do?  
> The “victim” stood up in court on his behalf.  The charges were lowered to 
> misdemeanor.  But, Rainey gets six months of probation and counseling.
> I’d bet Meyer keeps him off the team for the rest of this year then lets him 
> back on for next season.  If, he does all the double secret probation stuff 
> Meyer thinks up for him to get back on the team.
> 
> I don’t know about you all, but I feel sorry for Rainey.  Sure, it was 
> stupid, and he should be punished, but I don’t think he should have to 
> sacrifice the whole season if he gets his act back together.
> 
> In light of all the arrest stories, I’d guess, as I said earlier, he won’t be 
> back this year.
> 
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
> -- 
> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
> 2008 National Football Champions | 
> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
> Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

But, we did try new/old things and work out kinks.  

You forget Meyer only likes to win.  He's not Steve Spurrier.  He's not
going to display lots of offensive fire power if it isn't called for.

How about that fake punt against Tennessee?  He waited until late in the
game, after he had already gone for it on 4th down earlier, to use that.

Why?  He was playing the percentages.  He knew Tennessee was worn down by
then and the fake punt would have the desired effect of taking them out of
the game.  And, that's just what happened.

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 

The problem is - we wasted three games - getting these guys ready to play
this fall.  We could have better used those games for trying new things,
working out kinks, etc.  

 

Seems like our offense was not ready to play till the Kentucky game.

 

 

 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Oliver Barry]

That's not Gatorcountry, is it?  If so, where the heck do you find such
insight?

 

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI

Real Estate Broker

Bob Parks Realty

1517 Hunt Club Blvd

Gallatin TN 37066

Phone: 615-826-4040

Fax: 615-822-2027

Mobile: 615-972-4239

 

 


I believe that it's a combination of things. I don't think the coaches are
completely free of blame in this, but I don't think that it's entirely their
fault either. As I alluded to earlier, there's a very knowledgeable poster
on a pay site I subscribe to, that addressed a lot of the details on our
offense's slow start in a manner that blows away what I could do. I have
sent him a private message seeking permission to post it here. Even on that
site there were responses that labled it as nothing more than eloquent
excuses, but I found it informative, and hopefully, if you get a chance to
see it, you will as well.

 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Keith Baldwin]

That is two entirely different statements.  I don't care if people agree
with me.  I just want people to discuss and argue - like adults.  The more
we discuss and argue - the more we learn.  The more we all just sit around
and agree "it's great to be a Florida Gator" - we fail to learn anything.

My concern lies in people that think we don't have any problems, willing to
accept whatever excuses they hear and don't want to think through what their
eyes are seeing.




-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:05 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Or is this a - let's all not think - let's only say the Gators are 
>great - group ;-)

You didn't write this sentence, Keith?
Then, please forgive me for my error.

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Baldwin
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

<< Keith just accused anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".>>

Please show me where I said that ...

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the players
are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
expressing themselves?"
Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
to.
Is that "running you off?"
What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half
of what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  

So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
match your own?  

Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on 
>this list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are 
>lousy/players are lousy".
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the 
>team has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in 
>the pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a 
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next 
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy 
>coaches we have a long shot at doing it this year!
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why 
>can't
we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face prosecution

[Keith Baldwin]

I'm just glad I am not a football player in this day and time.  Today things
are blown way out of proportion - compared to the way things flew under the
radar and were handled 30 years ago.  

 

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve McKibben
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:19 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris
Rainey won't face prosecution

 


Without saying what the punishment "should be" (I will for $3M a year), my
guess is  that Rainey will be back on the team within a month. 

--- Oliver Barry  wrote:

Well, I guess Meyer will get to earn his $3,000,000 now.  What does he do?
The "victim" stood up in court on his behalf.  The charges were lowered to
misdemeanor.  But, Rainey gets six months of probation and counseling.

I'd bet Meyer keeps him off the team for the rest of this year then lets him
back on for next season.  If, he does all the double secret probation stuff
Meyer thinks up for him to get back on the team.

I don't know about you all, but I feel sorry for Rainey.  Sure, it was
stupid, and he should be punished, but I don't think he should have to
sacrifice the whole season if he gets his act back together.

In light of all the arrest stories, I'd guess, as I said earlier, he won't
be back this year.

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] bama

[Scott Lucas]

But it was sickening and I think it was fairly obvious.   Are you upset 
that I called some of our plays and play calling sickening?  At times, it has 
been. 

I can break down the plays, pull apart the blocking schemes, check the 
personnel packages all day long, but what this list has sunk to is nothing put 
sunshines and roses, that would be lost as well and a waste of my time.  

I was unaware of this requirement to have a differing opinion.  We didn't use 
to have to do this can we get it added to the monthly email? 




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>It might help if you talked x's and o's instead of calling the play
>"sickening".
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>Real Estate Broker
>Bob Parks Realty
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>Gallatin TN 37066
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:21 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] bama
>
>I've already said we can win this one  for the first time this season, I
>believe that. 
>
>But you can't talk Xs and Os when its all about yes'es and no's here...
>
>
>
>"Keith Baldwin"  wrote:
>
>>Don't know about that - but we don't have to win this game.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>If we can avoid getting our butts kicked and play a respectful game - and
>>then win out in the SEC East - maybe we can develop enough by the SEC CG -
>>to win that game.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>The second Alabama game is the important one.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>This game will be a good measuring stick.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>>Behalf Of Jay Cicone
>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:58 AM
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: [gatortalk] bama
>>
>> 
>>
>>They will take us to the woodshed.
>>
>>-- 
>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>>2008 National Football Champions | 
>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>>
>>-- 
>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

Valid points and probably in hand with my theory that the scripted offense is 
more dynamic than Adazzio coaching and playcalling on the fly

Its almost as if he is overwhelmed with all his options and keeps going back to 
the same 5 plays.

"Steve McKibben"  wrote:

>Keith - let's suppose that he (Debose) did sit around and learn the playbook 
>while he was injured.
>
>Don't you think that;
>
>With Tebow being replaced by Brantley as starting QB and, with Azzanni 
>replacing Gonzalez as WR coach, that a lot of things, such as route trees, 
>etc. may have changed?
>
>Do you think book and film study can negate the need for real life application 
>of what one has learned? 
>
>And don't you think that he'd need to prove that he's ready in practice before 
>he's given a chance to possibly hurt the team by messing up badly in a game?
>
>Debose was the target for several passes on our first couple of drives. Did 
>you notice that they were very simple patterns where the ball was delivered 
>very quickly to him? I believe that was a reward for him having, according to 
>Meyer, his best week of practice ever.
>
>I don't think they could continue throwing the ball to him in the same way all 
>night long because the element of surprise was gone, and UK was probably 
>defending him in a way that would neccessitate him reading the defenses and 
>making the proper route tree adjustments - something he's said to not have a 
>firm grasp on yet, therefore he seemed to disappear again.
>
>--- Keith Baldwin wrote:
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>With all that sitting around – Debose can’t study the playbook,
>watch a ton of film, practices – and learn the plays?  Seems to me like – that 
>is
>what you do if you are injured?  If you’re injured – don’t you spend more time
>studying – not less time?
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

Can you support that with facts, Xs and Os, or ifs and butts, or whatever?


"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I'm not offended by the Pollyanna label.  Actually, I'm proud of it.  
>
>I've already been looking for a couple of Bammy fans I know to try to harass
>them a little.
>
>No one will be more surprised than me if we lose Saturday.
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:57 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Remember!?  Oliver?  He's the founder of the Polyanna Tabernacle Choir.  A
>grand Poohbah of the angelic hummers, and I don't mean vehicles, and smilers
>union.
> 
>
>A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
>I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Scott Lucas 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:14:30 PM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>Find where I said that.  Or we can continue these petty games you pollyannas
>want to play.  
>
>And yeah, I pulled out pollyanna.  Old school reference.  I'm sure you
>remember  
>
>
>"Oliver Barry"  wrote:
>
>>Speaking of the offense, anyone hear any more about Demps?  Not that it
>>matters, he's a lousy player anyway.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>>
>>Real Estate Broker
>>
>>Bob Parks Realty
>>
>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>>
>>Gallatin TN 37066
>>
>>Phone: 615-826-4040
>>
>>Fax: 615-822-2027
>>
>>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>  _  
>>
>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>>Behalf Of Darlene Goodfellow
>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
> ] Gator
>>offense finds its identity
>>
>> 
>>
>>Come on Scott, no one is saying our players or coaches are perfect, but
>>there are legitimate and reasonable circumstances that explain a lot of the
>>angst some fans are experiencing. Despite protestations, it's also becoming
>>clearer that the coaches were saving quite a bit of the offense for the
>meat
>>of our SEC schedule. 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>
>>From: Scott   Lucas 
>>
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
>>
>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:52 AM
>>
>>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>>offense finds its identity
>>
>> 
>>
>>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>>are 4-0.
>>
>>
>>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>>perfect.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>  _  
>>
>>
>>From: Keith Baldwin 
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>>offense finds its identity
>>
>>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>>
>> 
>>
>>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>>And have confidence in them?
>>
>> 
>>
>>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>>
>> 
>>
>>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>>system.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>>quizzing him on the plays?
>>
>> 
>>
>>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>>are excuses.
>>
>> 
>>
>>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obviously they do some good
>>things.  But to not have these guys ready to play is inexcusable and speaks
>>of a major problem.  I don't know what the fix is - but then again I am not
>>being paid $3 million (or whatever) to fix it.  
>>
>> 
>>
>>We just wasted four games teaching guys how to block, run routes, and snap
>>the ball. 
>>
>> 
>>
>>Maybe we shoul

Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Scott Lucas]

He's on entitlement exile.  I don't think you can get voted off though, only 
on.  



"Arthur Polhill"  wrote:

>But, Woody just got season tickets.  Where's his game report?  Maybe he's with 
>Randy.
> A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
>I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Scott Lucas 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:22:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?
>
>He was at the game Saturday.  He has been posting on facebook. I would say he 
>is 
>just fine, and probably glad he retired before watching fellow gators run off 
>other gators. 
>
>
>Anyone heard from Woody?  Oh wait, his entitlement ran out
>
>"Arthur Polhill"  wrote:
>
>>The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy Lyons; 
>>that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently got lost 
>>while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I did tell 
>>them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.
>>
>>
>>A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>>"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
>>I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
>>
>>-- 
>>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>>1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
>>2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
>>2008 National Football Champions  |  
>>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions  |  2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions  |  2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions  |  
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Scott Lucas]

And you just said you ARE a proud pollyana so that wouldn't be an attack.  That 
would be calling a kettle black...

In fact, I may have complimented you with that.  It is not bad to be a 
pollyanna, but it seems to be if you don't agree with a pollyanna.  


"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>Yes, you are afraid of disagreement.  That's why you're defending yourself
>so vehemently now.
>Personal attacks?  You just called me a Pollyanna!  :-)
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>Real Estate Broker
>Bob Parks Realty
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>Gallatin TN 37066
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
> 
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:00 PM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>What facts?  I am stating opinions...  you are the only one saying things
>without checking facts, and to your own admission.
>
>I'm not afraid of disagreement.  This list used to be great about that, open
>dialogue, discussions, now its just personal at...@ks when you have a
>differing opinion...
>
>Nice.  All kinds of weather? 
>
>
>
>"Oliver Barry"  wrote:
>
>>No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the
>players
>>are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
>>anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
>>I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
>>you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
>>But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
>>expressing themselves?"
>>Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
>>to.
>>Is that "running you off?"
>>What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?
>>
>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>>Real Estate Broker
>>Bob Parks Realty
>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>>Gallatin TN 37066
>>Phone: 615-826-4040
>>Fax: 615-822-2027
>>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>> 
>> 
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>>offense finds its identity
>>
>>Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
>>were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
>>Apparently, most have an issue with that...
>>
>>I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you
>want.
>>Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read
>half
>>of what I send.
>>
>>I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
>>I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
>>more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  
>>
>>So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
>>not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice
>our
>>opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
>>match your own?  
>>
>>Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Oliver Barry"  wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>>>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>>>lousy/players are lousy". 
>>>
>>>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>>>
>>>The team is very young, talented or not.
>>>
>>>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>>>
>>>O line was injured in first two games.
>>>
>>>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>>>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>>>
>>>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in
>the
>>>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>>>
>>>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>>>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>>>
>>>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>>>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy
>coaches
>>>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>>>
>>>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't
>>we
>>>beat the Packers?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>>>
>>>Real Estate Broker
>>>
>>>Bob Parks Realty
>>>
>>>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>>>
>>>Gallatin TN 37066
>>>
>>>Phone: 615-826-4040
>>>
>>>Fax: 615-822-2027
>>>
>>>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  _  
>>>
>>>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>>>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>>>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>>>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>>>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face prosecution

[Scott Lucas]

The media will crucify Meyer if he comes back, but I could see him allowing him 
back.  Its times like this which sickened us about ol' Bobby.  He always let 
them back because to do otherwise was failing that young man.  

Rainey has had more than his share of an unfair and difficult life...  I hope 
he does come back, but after a serious counseling program for everything he is 
struggling with, not just this incident.  He clearly needs help.  Let's help 
him, and then allow him a chance to prove it later.  

"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>Well, I guess Meyer will get to earn his $3,000,000 now.  What does he do?
>The "victim" stood up in court on his behalf.  The charges were lowered to
>misdemeanor.  But, Rainey gets six months of probation and counseling.
>
>I'd bet Meyer keeps him off the team for the rest of this year then lets him
>back on for next season.  If, he does all the double secret probation stuff
>Meyer thinks up for him to get back on the team.
>
>I don't know about you all, but I feel sorry for Rainey.  Sure, it was
>stupid, and he should be punished, but I don't think he should have to
>sacrifice the whole season if he gets his act back together.
>
>In light of all the arrest stories, I'd guess, as I said earlier, he won't
>be back this year.
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatorn...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatorn...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Shane Ford
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:05 PM
>To: GatorNews
>Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face
>prosecution
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>UF wide receiver Chris Rainey won't face prosecution
>
>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:01:33 EDT,
>
>Gator wide receiver Chris Rainey will not face prosecution on a stalking
>charge if he stays out of trouble with the law for six months, performs 10
>hours of community service and undergoes an anger-management evaluation and
>possible counseling, under an agreement reached today with State Attorney
>Bill Cervone.
>
>But head football coach Urban Meyer said earlier today that Rainey would not
>play in Saturday's game against the University of Alabama.
>
>"Chris Rainey is still not a part of this team," Meyer said. "He's
>definitely out this week."
>
>Rainey was arrested Sept. 14 for sending a text message that said "Time to
>Die (expletive)" to a women he had dated. He was suspended from the team
>following the arrest.
>
>While Rainey had faced a third-degree felony charge of aggravated stalking,
>Cervone said in a written statement that he dropped the charge to a
>misdemeanor to better reflect the facts of the case. The victim said "she
>was more annoyed than threatened" and did not want prosecution, Cervone
>said.
>
>"I am not going to consider any request that the case be dropped in its
>entirety, however, because I am concerned when young people act in this way
>and believe that we should intervene at least to the point of forcing a
>cooling off period and some professional counseling on anger management and
>related coping skills," he said.
>
>The victim in the case also released a statement, which said she had known
>Rainey for three years and he had not displayed violent or threatening
>behavior in that time.
>
>"His actions that night were out of character for reasons unknown to us,
>which is why we stood up in court on his behalf," the victim said.
>
>Shane Ford
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions | 
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results

[Randy Lyons]

The bike ride was AWESOME! Even got a little cold-weather riding in the
morning I left to come back. It was around 50 degrees in Northern Kentucky
and after subtracting 15 degrees for the wind chill, it was 35 degrees on
the interstate. J 
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:39 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
 
Oh, I'm sorry Randy! Now I see why Oliver is sucking so bad at pick em this
year! How was your bike ride to your dad's hometown.
 
Shane 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2010, at 5:26 AM, "Randy Lyons"  wrote:
I haven't played since my mother died. I was occupied with other things for
a couple of weeks and since I'm now too far behind.
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Ford
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:34 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
 
Sure you do! :-) Have you spoken to Randy yet so we can pick against his
picks? :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:15 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
Well, I mean it this time! 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _  

From: Shane Ford  
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:04:38 -0700
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
 
Bah humbug! You've been saying that for weeks now. I don't believe you! :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM, oli...@bobparks.com wrote:
This is a dumb game and I'm not playing anymore! 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

  _  

From: "John Bowers"  
Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:03:10 -0400
To: ; 
ReplyTo: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'Em results
 
Congratulations to Randy Platt, who went 10-2 to take first place yesterday
in
Pick 'Em.  Second place at 9-3 was shared by Eric Bunce and Ken Kirkley.
And
a whole bunch of peeps went 8-4.  
 
For the year, we've got a logjam at the top: Anna Picano, Jerry Belloit,
John Dee,
John McInnes, and Kevin Fraze all sit at 32-16.
 
They're followed by Alex Cabanilla, Carlos Martinez, Ed Kling, Jeff Picano,
Kathy Byrd-Hohn, Ryan Marcus, Shane Ford, Steve Lindauer, and Teebo Fischer
at 31-17.
 
We'll play again this week.  The Thursday night game is Texas A&M at
Oklahoma State,
so we'll probably skip that one, meaning you'll have until Saturday morning
to get your picks in.  
 
http://pickem.g8r.com
 
John and Oz
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us 
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions | 
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions
2

RE: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

[Randy Lyons]

Did my post on GT about Saturday not get sent out? It came back to me, so I
assumed...

Randy


-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Anybody seen Randy?

He was at the game Saturday.  He has been posting on facebook. I would say
he is just fine, and probably glad he retired before watching fellow gators
run off other gators. 

Anyone heard from Woody?  Oh wait, his entitlement ran out

"Arthur Polhill"  wrote:

>The University Police just called and asked if I'd seen a Mister Randy
Lyons; 
>that he'd been reported as missing. I told them that he frequently got lost

>while hiking on the Appalachian Trail but might be in Argentina.  I did
tell 
>them that he had sounded confused that last time I talked to him.
>
>
>A. Leon Polhill, Gator
>"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
>I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
>
>-- 
>GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
>1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
>2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
>2008 National Football Champions   |   
>Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
>Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Randy Lyons]

I feel like a ghost! I am here! LOOK OVER HERE! I'm waving to you! Do you
not see me?
 
Randy
 
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Polhill
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:16 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity
 
Speaking of MajorDumo, has anyone seen the Randoo0?
 
A. Leon Polhill, Gator
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain 
 
 
  _  

From: Scott Lucas 
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 12:08:36 PM
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half
of what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  

So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
match your own?  

Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>lousy/players are lousy". 
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't
we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com
 ] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Richardson at
>Alabama,  Lattimore at South Carolina - able to do it?  
>
> 
>
>Oliver - I am not going off on you - but on this topic - all of these
>excuses - for why players are not ready to play after several years in the
>system.  
>
> 
>
>Debose sat out all last year - and this year he doesn't know the plays?
>What the heck was he doing last year while sitting around rehabing?  Why
>didn't they have some graduate assistant sitting there next to the hot tub
>quizzing him on the plays?
>
> 
>
>There are serious problems in developing these studs - and all I've heard
>are excuses.
>
> 
>
>I am not calling for firing the coaches - obvious

RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[Randy Lyons]

Whew! I sure don't miss this! I'm so glad I retired... :)

Poor Steve...

Randy


-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Oliver Barry
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

No, you didn't say "the team is going to hell in a handbasket or the players
are lousy.   But, you did say one player was lazy.  And, Keith just accused
anyone who doesn't agree with him as "not thinking".
I don't want to run anyone off, but if you think you can just say anything
you want without really researching the facts first, you're crazy.
But, isn't that what you just said you wanted, people "passionately
expressing themselves?"
Nor, am I lumping everyone together.  You are precisely who I was talking
to.
Is that "running you off?"
What, you're afraid of anyone disagreeing with you?

Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
Real Estate Broker
Bob Parks Realty
1517 Hunt Club Blvd
Gallatin TN 37066
Phone: 615-826-4040
Fax: 615-822-2027
Mobile: 615-972-4239
 
 

-Original Message-
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Lucas
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:09 AM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
offense finds its identity

Talk about words in someone's mouth!  I never said the coaches or players
were lousy.  I have always said there is still much room for improvement.
Apparently, most have an issue with that...

I'm sure you can take something out of context and skew it however you want.
Apparently you already have.  From your comment, it seems you only read half
of what I send.

I challenge you to find one quote from me that says our coaches are lousy.
I am not sured who this tirade is against [liver, but at least YOU can be
more imaginative and not lump everyone together.  

So what is wrong with this list that you all want to run off anyone that is
not a pollyanna and drinking your kool-aid?  We are not allowed to voice our
opinions?  We are not allowed to passionately express them if they don't
match your own?  

Cmon...  this is not the list I remember from the majordomo days.  




"Oliver Barry"  wrote:

>I don't know about labels, but you two are the latest incarnation on this
>list of "everything's going to hell in a handbasket/coaches are
>lousy/players are lousy". 
>
>I just don't understand your unrealistic expectations.
>
>The team is very young, talented or not.
>
>11 players from last year are playing in the NFL this year.
>
>O line was injured in first two games.
>
>All these and many more are logical reasons, not excuses for why the team
>has "underperformed" according to Gator Nation's expectations.
>
>Yes, several media outlets were saying great things about the Gators in the
>pre-season.  Surprise!  They, like you do the same thing every year!
>
>If you're going to be the harbingers of disaster I just wish you'd be a
>little imaginative in it and not be just like everyone else, every year.
>
>What are you going to say when we win the NC?  It will happen by next
>season.  With the improvement we've seen in the team by those lousy coaches
>we have a long shot at doing it this year! 
>
>What then?  Why aren't we blowing everybody out by 70 or more?  Why can't
we
>beat the Packers?
>
> 
>
> 
>
>Oliver Barry CRS,GRI
>
>Real Estate Broker
>
>Bob Parks Realty
>
>1517 Hunt Club Blvd
>
>Gallatin TN 37066
>
>Phone: 615-826-4040
>
>Fax: 615-822-2027
>
>Mobile: 615-972-4239
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Scott Lucas
>Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:53 AM
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
> 
>
>Careful Keith... talk like this will get you labelled an "entitlement
>fan"...  It will also raise questions about whether you are really happy we
>are 4-0.
>
>
>How dare we question anything about this team?  They are, after all,
>perfect.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Keith Baldwin 
>To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 10:23:49 AM
>Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator
>offense finds its identity
>
>We have 4 and 5 star receivers and QB that have been in system for years -
>and now that it is their turn to step up into the limelight - we don't have
>confidence in them or they don't have confidence ?!?!
>
> 
>
>That says - serious coaching problems.  
>
> 
>
>Why is the defense able to play - and now start - so many true freshmen?
>And have confidence in them?
>
> 
>
>Granted defense is easier than offense - but we are comparing true freshmen
>on defense versus offensive guys that have been in the system for years.  
>
> 
>
>How are other teams - like Cam Newton at Auburn, Ingrahm and Ric

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity

[jlimb]

I would imagine the scripted offense works because the offensive coaches spot 
some weakness during the week and exploit it until the opposing defensive 
coaches adjust. When they do, you won't be able to keep calling the same plays. 
You see this type of thing all the time. The 2005 Georgia game is a good 
example. We scored on the first two drives, then didn't do anything else the 
rest of the game. 




That being said, although I wouldn't call Addazzio the most imaginative 
playcaller I've ever seen, there are plays, were they executed better, that 
would have made the offense look more dynamic. Specifically, I'm thinking of 
Thompson's drops in the end zone or several Brantley passes that were too high 
on midrange routes. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Lucas"  
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:02:52 PM 
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense 
finds its identity 

Valid points and probably in hand with my theory that the scripted offense is 
more dynamic than Adazzio coaching and playcalling on the fly 

Its almost as if he is overwhelmed with all his options and keeps going back to 
the same 5 plays. 

-- 
GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY!
1996 National Football Champions   |   2006 National Basketball Champions
2006 National Football Champions   |   2007 National Basketball Champions
2008 National Football Champions   |   
Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996),
Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us