Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC
Upayavira is not a good example of anonymity, as he is not. I think his name is sometimes prefixed by Dh and he is quite open about his identity. [1],[2],[3] I trust the Foundation knows the true identity of rgb-es. IIRC, any legal document signed by an incognito is not binding, and we should have have all signed CLA's as individuals. Ian 1 http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=upayaviraw=alls=intreferer_searched=1 2 http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/Upayavira 3 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dh-upayavira/1b/5a3/7a6 On 2 October 2012 10:13, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No, just like Upayavira doesn't. Oh, I thought he was just a person-of-single-name, like a number of people I've met (often from Indonesia). From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: FYI - This is being done in public! Who or what is an RGB.ES? Don't PMC members have to disclose an identity? Regards, Dave Begin forwarded message: From: Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com Date: October 1, 2012 3:38:03 PM PDT To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC Reply-To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org delivered-to: mailing list ooo-...@incubator.apache.org This is a call for vote on selecting the following list as the starting membership for the Apache OpenOffice PMC, to be listed in the TLP resolution. The voting is for the entire slate as listed. Apache OpenOffice PMC Starting Membership: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) The balloting will be until UTC midnight Thursday, 4 October: 2012-10-04T24:00Z. Approval requires a majority of +1 over -1 votes cast by members of the PPMC. [ ] +1 approve [ ] 0 abstain [ ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons: The [DISCUSS] for this vote was enthusiastically in favor. There were no concerns expressed other than issues with the timeframe of discussions, which were suitably extended. (note: All members of this list, except for Drew and Raphael, accepted their nomination to this list. I have left Drew and Raphael on the list as neither declined, and they still have the ability to decline later) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC
On 2 October 2012 10:58, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Relax, we aren't that dumb as an org to accept signatures from fictitious entities. The board knows everyone's identity, and ultimately they are the ones who ratify these PMC rosters. Sorry, (I *was* being dumb :), I should have checked, feel free to tell me to RTFx) Ian From: Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC Upayavira is not a good example of anonymity, as he is not. I think his name is sometimes prefixed by Dh and he is quite open about his identity. [1],[2],[3] I trust the Foundation knows the true identity of rgb-es. IIRC, any legal document signed by an incognito is not binding, and we should have have all signed CLA's as individuals. Ian 1 http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=upayaviraw=alls=intreferer_searched=1 2 http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/Upayavira 3 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dh-upayavira/1b/5a3/7a6 On 2 October 2012 10:13, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No, just like Upayavira doesn't. Oh, I thought he was just a person-of-single-name, like a number of people I've met (often from Indonesia). From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: FYI - This is being done in public! Who or what is an RGB.ES? Don't PMC members have to disclose an identity? Regards, Dave Begin forwarded message: From: Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com Date: October 1, 2012 3:38:03 PM PDT To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC Reply-To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org delivered-to: mailing list ooo-...@incubator.apache.org This is a call for vote on selecting the following list as the starting membership for the Apache OpenOffice PMC, to be listed in the TLP resolution. The voting is for the entire slate as listed. Apache OpenOffice PMC Starting Membership: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) The balloting will be until UTC midnight Thursday, 4 October: 2012-10-04T24:00Z. Approval requires a majority of +1 over -1 votes cast by members of the PPMC. [ ] +1 approve [ ] 0 abstain [ ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons: The [DISCUSS] for this vote was enthusiastically in favor. There were no concerns expressed other than issues with the timeframe of discussions, which were suitably extended. (note: All members of this list, except for Drew and Raphael, accepted their nomination to this list. I have left Drew and Raphael on the list as neither declined, and they still have the ability to decline later) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
On 4 Dec 2010, at 22:43, Dan Peterson wrote: Ian, Isabel (and anyone else I missed), sorry about that Dan, np, just wanted to make sure you got all the credit due. Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULTS][VOTE] Wave accepted into the ASF incubator
On 4 Dec 2010, at 01:50, Tad Glines wrote: 2010/12/3 Dan Peterson dpeter...@google.com The 18 binding votes: Andrus Adamchik, Ant Elder, Bernd Fondermann, Bertrand Delacretaz, Chris A. Mattmann, Christian Grobmeier, Davanum Srinivas, Dave Johnson, Doug Cutting, Emmanuel Lecharny, Jim Jagielski, Kevan Miller, Luciano Resende, Mark Struberg, Michael McCandless, Ralph Goers, Tim Williams, and Upayavira The 8 non-IMPC members who are ASF members: Ate Douma, Brett Porter, Leif Hedstrom, Marcel Offermans, Niklas Gustavsson, Richard Hall, Santiago Gala, and Vincent Siveton Wow! Did we set some sort of record? I didn't realize that so many ASF people had voted. Congrats lots of support from all corners. Just incase it is a record, long may it stand but it may be even more than that, I see Paul Lindner name in the list of non members, I thought as Shindig PMC Chair he was a member, with me that makes 10, there may be others. ? (well done, I thought it was painful counting just ten on a release votes) -Tad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Wave Protocol group. To post to this group, send email to wave-proto...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wave-protocol+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol?hl=en. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept Wave into the incubator
On 30 Nov 2010, at 06:52, Dan Peterson wrote: [X ] +1 Accept Wave for incubation Ian (non-binding) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation
Yes, might even be able to persuade my employer to let me slice out some time, but even it I cant help actively, very interested. Ian On 24 Nov 2010, at 18:15, Dan Peterson wrote: Ian, Cool -- I imagine this project could be rather useful for some of your education projects. -Dan On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: +1 Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time) Ian On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote: Hello all, We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator. The draft proposal is available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below) A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communication. It can be used like email, chat, or a document. Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment, which is a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and provides a rich web client. This project also includes an implementation of the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances). As a result of the recent Wave Summit, beyond growing a few new committers, we've put together the following proposal for migrating the community into the ASF incubator. More details on the summit Wave in a Box progress in this blogpost: http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/11/this-weeks-wave-protocol-summit-updates.html We are looking forward to your feedback and suggestions. By the way, if you're looking to learn more about the technology related to wave, you can see the videos and presentations from the recent Wave Summit in: https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+rwFyiw47A Kind regards, -Dan, on behalf of the Wave Community P.S. For those on the wave-protocol Google Group (that aren't yet on general@incubator.apache.org), please participate in this discussion by sending a message to general-subscribe at incubator dot apache dot org Apache Wave Proposal (Apache Incubator) = Abstract = Apache Wave is the project where wave technology is developed at Apache. Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment, which is a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and provides a rich web client. This project also includes an implementation of the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances). = Proposal = A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communication. It can be used like email, chat, or a document. WIAB is a server that hosts waves. The best analogy for this is a mail server with a web client. WIAB is comprised of a few high-level components: the client and the server. They have the following major functionality (though this is not an exhaustive list): * Client *A dynamic web client for users to create, edit, and search waves. Users can access this client by directly visiting the server in a browser. * Gadgets provide the ability to insert, view, and modify the UI -- exposing the Wave Gadgets API ( http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html) * A console client that can create and edit waves via a command-line-like interface. * Server * Hosts and stores waves. WIAB comes with a default storage mechanism. The administrators of the server may configure it to use alternative storage mechanisms. * Indexing, allowing for searching the waves a user has access to. * Basic authentication, configurable to delegate to other systems. * Federation, allowing separate Wave in a Box servers to communicate with each other using the Wave Federation Protocol ( http://www.waveprotocol.org/federation). * Robots, using the Wave Robots API, ( http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/) may interact with waves on a WIAB instance. = Background = Wave expresses a new metaphor for communication: hosted conversations. This was created by Lars and Jens Rasmussen after observation of people's use of many separate forms of communication to get something done, e.g, email, chat, docs, blogs, twitter, etc. The vision has always been to better the way people communicate and collaborate. Building open protocols and sharing code available in an open and free way is a critical part of that vision. Anyone should be able to bring up their own wave server and communicate with others (much like SMTP). We hope this project will allow everyone to easily gain the benefits of Wave with a standard implementation of Wave – in a box. = Rationale = Wave has shown it excels at small group collaboration when hosted by Google. Although Wave will not continue as a standalone Google product, there is a lot of interest from many organizations in both running Wave and building upon
Re: [PROPOSAL] Accept Wave for incubation
+1 Would be happy to help of you need any (and if I can find time) Ian On 23 Nov 2010, at 20:16, Dan Peterson wrote: Hello all, We'd like to propose Wave for entry into the ASF incubator. The draft proposal is available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WaveProposal (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below) A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communication. It can be used like email, chat, or a document. Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment, which is a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and provides a rich web client. This project also includes an implementation of the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances). As a result of the recent Wave Summit, beyond growing a few new committers, we've put together the following proposal for migrating the community into the ASF incubator. More details on the summit Wave in a Box progress in this blogpost: http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/11/this-weeks-wave-protocol-summit-updates.html We are looking forward to your feedback and suggestions. By the way, if you're looking to learn more about the technology related to wave, you can see the videos and presentations from the recent Wave Summit in: https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+rwFyiw47A Kind regards, -Dan, on behalf of the Wave Community P.S. For those on the wave-protocol Google Group (that aren't yet on general@incubator.apache.org), please participate in this discussion by sending a message to general-subscribe at incubator dot apache dot org Apache Wave Proposal (Apache Incubator) = Abstract = Apache Wave is the project where wave technology is developed at Apache. Wave in a Box (WIAB) is the name of the main product at the moment, which is a server that hosts and federates waves, supports extensive APIs, and provides a rich web client. This project also includes an implementation of the Wave Federation protocol, to enable federated collaboration systems (such as multiple interoperable Wave In a Box instances). = Proposal = A wave is a hosted, live, concurrent data structure for rich communication. It can be used like email, chat, or a document. WIAB is a server that hosts waves. The best analogy for this is a mail server with a web client. WIAB is comprised of a few high-level components: the client and the server. They have the following major functionality (though this is not an exhaustive list): * Client *A dynamic web client for users to create, edit, and search waves. Users can access this client by directly visiting the server in a browser. * Gadgets provide the ability to insert, view, and modify the UI -- exposing the Wave Gadgets API ( http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html) * A console client that can create and edit waves via a command-line-like interface. * Server * Hosts and stores waves. WIAB comes with a default storage mechanism. The administrators of the server may configure it to use alternative storage mechanisms. * Indexing, allowing for searching the waves a user has access to. * Basic authentication, configurable to delegate to other systems. * Federation, allowing separate Wave in a Box servers to communicate with each other using the Wave Federation Protocol ( http://www.waveprotocol.org/federation). * Robots, using the Wave Robots API, ( http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/) may interact with waves on a WIAB instance. = Background = Wave expresses a new metaphor for communication: hosted conversations. This was created by Lars and Jens Rasmussen after observation of people's use of many separate forms of communication to get something done, e.g, email, chat, docs, blogs, twitter, etc. The vision has always been to better the way people communicate and collaborate. Building open protocols and sharing code available in an open and free way is a critical part of that vision. Anyone should be able to bring up their own wave server and communicate with others (much like SMTP). We hope this project will allow everyone to easily gain the benefits of Wave with a standard implementation of Wave – in a box. = Rationale = Wave has shown it excels at small group collaboration when hosted by Google. Although Wave will not continue as a standalone Google product, there is a lot of interest from many organizations in both running Wave and building upon the technology for new products. We are confident that with the community-centric development environment fostered by the Apache Software Foundation, WIAB will thrive. = Initial Goals = The initial goals of the project are: 1. To migrate the codebase from code.google.com and integrate the project with the ASF infrastructure (issue management, build, project site,
Re: Mystery fax received
IBM Uk Winchester Hursley ? On 28 Oct 2010, at 16:42, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Which would appear to come from the UK, if that gives anyone a better clue. On 10/28/2010 10:15 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: Sorry for the noise. A bit more information: Caller-ID: 441962815000 On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi, We received an empty two page fax with this identifying information: 28/10/2010 08:42 01962816898 If you know of anyone who is trying to send us a document please ask them to retransmit. Thanks, Craig Craig L Russell Secretary, Apache Software Foundation Chair, OpenJPA PMC c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Review-Then-Commit
On 12 Nov 2009, at 03:16, Greg Stein wrote: Not a strong opinion, but I think that RTC hampers the free-flow of ideas, experimentation, evolution, and creativity. It is a damper on expressivity. You maneuver bureaucracy to get a change in. CTR is about making a change and discussing it. But you get *forward progress*. I also feel that RTC will tend towards *exclusivity* rather than the Apache ideal of *inclusivity*. That initial review is a social and mental burden for new committers. People are afraid enough of submitting patches and trying to join into a development community, without making them run through a front-loaded process. I've participated in both styles of development. RTC is *stifling*. I would never want to see that in any Apache community for its routine development (branch releases are another matter). My opinion is that it is very unfortunate that Cassandra feels that it cannot trust its developers with a CTR model, and pushes RTC as its methodology. The group-mind smashes down the creativity of the individual, excited, free-thinking contributor. +1, having experienced both, IMVHO RTC shrinks a community to a core team of dedicated and highly knowledgeable committers. CTR expands and educates a community not least because committed mistakes demand fixing by the committer and then anyone who can fix the bug. The only downside is that occasionally trunk wont build/run and if trunk is close to production that probably matters. Shindig is mostly RTC, and was very close to big production. Sling is mostly CTR Ian Cheers, -g On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:09, Matthieu Riou matth...@offthelip.org wrote: Hi guys, What's the take of other mentors and the IPMC on podlings practicing RTC? I'm asking because some seem to see it as a blocker for graduation whereas I see it much more as a development methodology with little community impact and therefore no real influence on graduation. Strong opinions here? Thanks, Matthieu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing
Openmeetings looks very interesting. I notice Red5, and see Paul Querna asked a question. I have 2 questions for my own education more than anything, What's the status of OpenLazlo wrt Apache Projects? I see it has a long list of dependencies with all sorts of licenses [1] but have no idea if there is a runtime or distribution binding that matters ? I hate to bring this up , but I have to ask (sorry) Also, are there any problems between Red5 and Adobe in terms of patents on the Flash Media Server protocols. IIRC Adobe have some patents in this area but I have no idea if they are relevant and enforceable or would want to enforce them against an open source project? Ian 1 http://www.openlaszlo.org/lps4.2/docs/developers/licenses.html On 27 Oct 2009, at 11:22, Sebastian Wagner wrote: hi, we would like to propose Openmeetings project to join the incubator. Full Proposal: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Quick summary: OpenMeetings is Web Conferencing application that fits into educational or business sector. You can make conference sessions in different room- types with up to 100 peoples in a Room. It contains all main features of Web Conferencing: Audio/Video, Whiteboard, Screen Sharing, Chat and Moderation System. It is translated into more then 20 languages and its a basic goal of OpenMeetings to be easy to embed into existing environments. It already uses many of Apache Technologies like Tomcat, Mina, Velocity, Commons, ... You may find all existing documents and further material on the GoogleCode pages: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal. sebastian wagner -- Sebastian Wagner http://www.webbase-design.de http://openmeetings.googlecode.com http://www.laszlo-forum.de seba.wag...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenMeetings incubator for Web Conferencing
On 28 Oct 2009, at 14:18, Sebastian Wagner wrote: hi, OpenLaszlo is used for compiling the Client. You don't need it to run the Application. So it is not needed to re-destribute OpenLaszlo. It is linked into the Application as Library, when you have compiled the code you can remove OpenLaszlo's Framework. Red5 does no transcoding. That is why its not relevant for Adobe Patents. Red5 actually acts like a Proxy. It just takes what you send there and broadcasts it to others. Besides that the RTMP Specification is meanwhile an Open Specification published by Adobe: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/rtmp/ So there should be no Issue in red5 itself. But anyway, we use Red5 just like a Library, we don't modify Red5-Code. We use the API that it provides to connect to the clients and the other way round. Ok, thanks I am informed and educated, sorry for digging. sebastian 2009/10/28 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Also, are there any problems between Red5 and Adobe in terms of patents on the Flash Media Server protocols. IIRC Adobe have some patents in this area but I have no idea if they are relevant and enforceable or would want to enforce them against an open source project? We (ASF) has no need to know. If the contributors has been contacted by Adobe, they should mention it, otherwise it is nothing we go around digging in. Our position is that there are no problems, until contacted of otherwise. Ok, position clarified, thanks. Ian Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Sebastian Wagner http://www.webbase-design.de http://openmeetings.googlecode.com http://www.laszlo-forum.de seba.wag...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: gadget architecture question
Oliver, shindig-dev is going to be a better place to ask this sort of question. General is for managing *all* incubator projects. cc'd to Shindig (but you will need to subscribe there to see the response :)) Ian On 26 Aug 2009, at 15:32, okrohne wrote: Hi, We are thinking of providing an OpenSocial Container. I wonder if a gadget provided by social network A which runs in our container can access the opensocial api implementation of social network A or can only access the opensocial implementation of our network? Thanks, Oliver -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/gadget-architecture-question-tp25151390p25151390.html Sent from the Apache Incubator - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Google Wave - anyone?
On 30 Jul 2009, at 12:30, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Btw, it feels that wookie is quite similar to Apache Shindig - is it? IIUC, Wookie contains Shindig to provide OpenSocial Gadget Rendering and I would assume the OpenSocial API. Wookie also contains a W3C gadget renderer. Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig 1.0 (RC4)
Hi, On the advice of our mentors the abandoned vote to release Apache Incubator Shindig 1.0 (RC4) was left open pending other votes from the IPMC or -1 votes blocking the release. We have now received sufficient votes to release, being 2 non binding, and 3 binding +1 votes, no 0 or -1 votes as listed below in addition to the 7 +1 binding votes from the podling. Paul Lindner +1 (non binding) Ian Boston +1 (non binding) Ant Elder +1 (binding) Leo Simons +1 (binding) Sylvain Wallez +1 (binding) I would like to take the opportunity to thank everyone who gave their time to review this release, especially Sebb who's forensic observation identified many of the problems. Thank you everyone at this very busy time leading up to your members meeting. Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE ABANDONED] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)
Hi, This vote has now been in progress for 14 days and has not received the necessary number of votes from the IPMC to make a release. There has been 1 +1 binding vote, 1 +2 non-binding vote and no other votes. The vote on shindig-dev resulted in 7 +1 binding votes, no +0 or -1's Votes so far Paul Lindner +1 (non binding) Ian Boston +1 (non binding) Ant Elder +1 (binding) Given the period of time that this vote has been open, it is unlikely that any more votes will be received and therefore I am closing this vote as abandoned. If there is a reason why members of the IPMC have decided not to vote on this release, I would like to hear them, before spending the time doing another release and wasting the IPMC's time. I will obviously fix the confirmed non blocker issues identified by Sebb, but the PPMC and Shindig community has been wanting and trying to release since January and the expenditure of more effort appears futile *if* there is something fundamentally wrong with the release that is not being said. Thank you Ian Boston. On 8 Jun 2009, at 10:24, Ian Boston wrote: Hi, This vote has been in progress for more than 72 hours now. AFICT although we have a number of non binding votes from the PPMC, we have no votes from the Incubator PMC. Votes so far Paul Lindner +1 (non binding) Ian Boston +1 (non binding) There were some other non binding votes cast by members Shindig community, but unfortunately the did not make it to gene...@incubator Having read the voting documentation, which does not mention lazy consensus for releases, I suspect that we should just abandon this vote and start all over again. However before I do that, I would like some advice from the Incubator PMC indicating that is the right thing to do? Thank you Ian On 4 Jun 2009, at 12:28, Ian Boston wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial applications. Vote Thread. http://markmail.org/thread/mrk4uwe7mg5e3uho Proposed release: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-002//org/apache/shindig/shindig/1.0-incubating/ SVN Tag is http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ revision 780648 Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 Thanks, Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)
Hi, This vote has been in progress for more than 72 hours now. AFICT although we have a number of non binding votes from the PPMC, we have no votes from the Incubator PMC. Votes so far Paul Lindner +1 (non binding) Ian Boston +1 (non binding) There were some other non binding votes cast by members Shindig community, but unfortunately the did not make it to gene...@incubator Having read the voting documentation, which does not mention lazy consensus for releases, I suspect that we should just abandon this vote and start all over again. However before I do that, I would like some advice from the Incubator PMC indicating that is the right thing to do? Thank you Ian On 4 Jun 2009, at 12:28, Ian Boston wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial applications. Vote Thread. http://markmail.org/thread/mrk4uwe7mg5e3uho Proposed release: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-002//org/apache/shindig/shindig/1.0-incubating/ SVN Tag is http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ revision 780648 Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 Thanks, Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)
On 8 Jun 2009, at 14:04, ant elder wrote: Having read the voting documentation, which does not mention lazy consensus for releases, I suspect that we should just abandon this vote and start all over again. However before I do that, I would like some advice from the Incubator PMC indicating that is the right thing to do? I don't think you should give up on this vote yet, its only been 4 days and that includes a weekend so as theres been no -1 yet i think it'd be worth trying to get another couple of votes for a bit longer. ...ant Thank you, (and for the +1) I wont close the vote just yet. Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)
On 4 Jun 2009, at 21:08, sebb wrote: On 04/06/2009, Paul Lindner lind...@inuus.com wrote: I don't see these as release blockers... I'd like to see us get the 1.0 release out the door and then immediately work to apply the release process to 1.1 snapshots. This was a frequent request from multiple people at Google I/O. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: -- snip -- These are probably not supposed to be in the source archive, they must have slipped trough during the build process, which does have filters in place to exclude them, but thats obviously not working. I will file a bug. The maven-clean-plugin config lists the file names without any path info, so will only delete files in the working directory. They are generated by JPA when it build the tests giving the default database schema for the samples project. It would be better if the test files were generated in a directory which is exclusively used for temporary test items, e.g. a work directory under target/. There would then be no need to remove the files later. Good point, I will fix. -- snip -- IYO, are any of these release blockers ? The source archive is supposed to be derivable from SVN, which is why I asked where the extra files came from. I suppose this is true here. It's not ideal to leave test output in the source archive; but it is probably not a release blocker. However, if I were the RM, I would create another release candidate. Your call. In light of Paul's comment and the amount of time we (I) have taken over getting this release out, I would like to leave the release as is, and fix all the problems identified so far in this release, in the 1.1 release asap. Thanks Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)
Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial applications. Vote Thread. http://markmail.org/thread/mrk4uwe7mg5e3uho Proposed release: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-002//org/apache/shindig/shindig/1.0-incubating/ SVN Tag is http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ revision 780648 Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 Thanks, Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Incubator Shindig version 1.0 (RC4)
On 4 Jun 2009, at 16:21, sebb wrote: On 04/06/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial applications. Vote Thread. http://markmail.org/thread/mrk4uwe7mg5e3uho Proposed release: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-002//org/apache/shindig/shindig/1.0-incubating/ SVN Tag is http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ revision 780648 There are 3 files in the source archive that are missing from SVN: java/samples/create.sql java/samples/derby.log java/samples/drop.sql It looks like these are not supposed to be in the source archive. These are probably not supposed to be in the source archive, they must have slipped trough during the build process, which does have filters in place to exclude them, but thats obviously not working. I will file a bug. They are generated by JPA when it build the tests giving the default database schema for the samples project. Where do the SQL files originate? I could not find how these were created from the files in SVN. = The file README.svn has a misleading name; it ought to be called README_svn.txt or similar otherwise it won't be easily usable on some OSes, e.g. Windows. Thank you will fix. Some missing SVN properties (not a release blocker): svn ps svn:eol-style native LICENSE svn ps svn:eol-style native NOTICE svn ps svn:eol-style native features/LICENSE svn ps svn:eol-style native features/NOTICE Thank you, will fix in svn. IYO, are any of these release blockers ? Ian Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 Thanks, Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0
On 12 May 2009, at 00:24, sebb wrote: Some NOTICE files start with: = = = == == NOTICE file corresponding to the section 4 d of== == the Apache License, Version 2.0, == == in this case for the Apache Shindig distribution. == = = = == This is wrong, it should start with the text as described here: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice ok, will fix. The top-level NOTICE file (and java/NOTICE) also contains details of the crypto requirements. These are supposed to be in a README file, see: http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html#inform will fix. NOTICE mentions opensocial-resources, PHPUnit and Zend, but LICENSE mentions PHPUnit, Zend and jsmin.php. I would expect LICENSE to include a mention of opensocial-resources NOTICE should probably have a mention of jsmin.php will fix, verifying the exact license text of the OpenSocial Resources at the moment. Release archives There is no need for .asc.md5 and .asc.sha1 hashes; delete them before deployment Ok will do. Binary archives === The war file contains lots of 3rd party libraries. None of these are mentioned in the NOTICE or LICENCE files. I was reliably informed that this was discussed on the Maven list in March 2008 (subject: legal-discuss) and for binary distributions that are created by the war packager that contained 3rd party libraries the DEPENDENCIES file was sufficient to comply with ASF rules. For source distributions, if any were bundled, they would require mention in NOTICE or LICENSE in the appropriate form, but AFAIK, there are no 3rd party libraries included that are not in those files. please advise on this one. The N L files in the java jar files are mostly OK, except java-features has an incorrect NOTICE file. Source archives === The tgz and zip files have the same files as each other, and the same files as SVN. However, most of the files in the archives are different from the files in SVN. The source files have additional empty lines at the end, and the PNG files are unusable. There's clearly something wrong with the way the files have been added to the archives. Will fix, thanks for spotting this one. README.svn has 3 spelling mistakes: 6: supliment = supplement 15,29: it's = its I've not tried building or testing the release Will fix. Thanks for reviewing, Sorry to have brought this to the PMC with these errors. First releases are liable to have problems but thank you for you continuing patience. Ian On 11/05/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: On 11 May 2009, at 18:11, sebb wrote: On 11/05/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial applications. Vote Thread. http://markmail.org/message/ncwat7aiyfkxq6jf Proposed release: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-013/ Binaries: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-013/ org/apache/shindig/shindig/1.0-incubating/ SVN Tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ I see you have reused the same SVN tag as in the previous vote. Tags are supposed to be immutable. How are we to know which particular version of the tag really relates to the archives? Please can you provide at least the svn revision of the tag, so people can check that they are voting on the same items. From the commit log The Tag was created at revision 772601 on at Thu May 7 10:45:55 2009 GMT verification of the tag version can be found here http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ Ian Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 Thanks, Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail
Re: [VOTE] Approve the release of Shindig Incubator 1.0
On 11 May 2009, at 18:11, sebb wrote: On 11/05/2009, Ian Boston i...@tfd.co.uk wrote: Hi, Please review and vote on approving the first release of Apache Shindig version 1.0-incubating. Apache Incubator Shindig is a JavaScript container and implementations of the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial applications. Vote Thread. http://markmail.org/message/ncwat7aiyfkxq6jf Proposed release: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-013/ Binaries: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/shindig-staging-013/ org/apache/shindig/shindig/1.0-incubating/ SVN Tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ I see you have reused the same SVN tag as in the previous vote. Tags are supposed to be immutable. How are we to know which particular version of the tag really relates to the archives? Please can you provide at least the svn revision of the tag, so people can check that they are voting on the same items. From the commit log The Tag was created at revision 772601 on at Thu May 7 10:45:55 2009 GMT verification of the tag version can be found here http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/shindig/tags/shindig-project-1.0-incubating/ Ian Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 Thanks, Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
