[gentoo-user] Re: gcc compiler cantcreate executables!

2003-06-05 Thread Jonathan Chocron
On jeu, 05 jun 2003, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 21:05, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot 
> > create executables.
> 
> I got this error when I had a line break in my cflags.  Check it.
> 
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Thanks for you response. It pointed me towards an answer. In fact, my
CFLAGS were fine (anyway, I checked the avifile ebuild and it does not
take the flags into account). I edited avifile configure script, and
it appears it was looking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++, I looked up g++
and it lied in a directory called i586-pc-linux-gnu, so I went into my
make.conf and changed the 6 to a 5 in my host variable. It works now,
although I don't really understand why. Do you have any clue as to
what happened ? Why are all the other apps comiling alright ?

Thanks again, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-05 Thread MrPaulAR
Try the current spamassassin (2.54).

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge dev-perl/Mail-SpamAssassin

Looking for bayesian only then bogofilter may be a better choice (I prefer 
spamassassin on the server & popfile on the client).

emerge net-mail/bogofilter

Paul

At 08:31 AM 06/05/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin. 
Everything
works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's accuracy.
I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable.
Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really like
to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with
qmail/maildir?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-05 Thread Ryan
I've been using bogofilter (http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/) with
procmail with great success. A few false negatives now and then but I
haven't seen a false positive yet. The only thing I don't like about the
setup is that I have to go to a commandline to mark the spam that slipped
through bogofilter as spam. I wish that I could just throw something in a
cron job that every couple hours it would re-compute its wordlists based
on the contents of my spam folders and my other folders. Does anyone have
a script that does this? I hear that spamprobe
(http://spamprobe.sourceforge.net/) (not used it yet) has this capability
built-in. Maybe I'll try switching to see how it works.

Ryan
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> I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin.
> Everything
> works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's
> accuracy.
> I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable.
> Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really
> like
> to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with
> qmail/maildir?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-05 Thread wes chow

bogofilter might be what you're looking for.  I'm using it on my 
postfix+mailfilter system, but it should work fine with procmail.

Wes


On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Larry Wright wrote:

> I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin. Everything 
> works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's accuracy. 
> I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable. 
> Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really like 
> to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with 
> qmail/maildir?
> 
> Thanks,
> Larry
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AW: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device

2003-06-05 Thread Meidinger Christopher
try root(hd0,2)

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> Betreff:  [gentoo-user] cannot open root device
> 
> I've installed gentoo successfully several times before, but this time
> I'm getting the following when I try to boot the first time:
> 
> VFS: Cannot open root device "hda3" or 03:03
> 
> I have the following in my grub.conf:
> 
> title=Gentoo  
> root (hd0,0) 
> kernel (hd0,0)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hda3 
> 
> /dev/hda3 is fine becuase I can mount it when I boot from the CD.
> I've rebuilt the kernel 3 times, double checking that I have the IDE
> driver and reiserfs support built in, not as a module.
> 
> What else could I be missing?
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[gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-05 Thread Larry Wright
I am currently running qmail + fetchmail + procmail + spamassassin. Everything 
works pretty well, but I'm a little dissapointed in spamassassin's accuracy. 
I'd ideally like something similar to spambayes, which is trainable. 
Unfortunately spambayes does not appear to work with maildir. I'd really like 
to keep qmail, does anyone know of a bayesian filter that works with 
qmail/maildir?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables

2003-06-05 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
Although correct, you need to make sure that you insert into the firewall
(iptables) at a point where it will actually matter (for instance, an
explicit accept before it will pretty much make your new entry useless).

Tom Veldhouse

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> Hi.
>
> Quick question. I would like to block an ip temporarily. I would like to
> accomplish this without modifying my firewall just on the fly. I am
> banking that all I would need to do is type
>
> iptables -I INPUT -s [ip] -j DROP
>
> Am I on the right track or is this not correct. Any help would be
> appreciated Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to start wm from console

2003-06-05 Thread David Dorward
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:23:32PM -0700, Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

> How can I start my favorite wm (KDE) from the console after login as
> a second user. My SuSE command: WINDOWMANAGER=kde3; startx -- :1
> doesn't seem to work. With it I end up in twm instead.

Something like this in ~/.xinitrc should do the trick:

#!/bin/bash
if [ -n "$WINDOWMANAGER" ]; then
exec $WINDOWMANAGER
else
exec startkde
fi

... but give the name of the excutable rather then a keyword
(startkde, not kde3) and lose the semi-colon.

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[gentoo-user] vi/imacs (was: Postfix vs. Qmail)

2003-06-05 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, DE SMET Bram (BDSR) wrote:

> Let us try to stop this before it gets into a flamewar.
> Next thing we know, people are going to say that emacs is better than vi ;-)

http://www.vimacs.cx  :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
On Thursday 05 June 2003 04:22 am, Mark Fisher wrote:
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> On Thursday 05 Jun 2003 3:08 am, Klaus D. Neumann wrote:
> > modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
> > iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `nat': iptables who? (do
> > you need to insmod?)
> > Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
> >
> > What did I do wrong?
>
> What happens when you type the command:
>
> insmod ip_tables
>
After recompiling my kernel, iptables as module this time, the comand gives my 
this:
bash-2.05b# insmod ip_tables
Using /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: 
unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt_Rsmp_09a77aa2
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: 
unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt_Rsmp_7569bdc4
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: 
unresolved symbol remove_proc_entry_Rsmp_3740881b
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: 
unresolved symbol proc_net_Rsmp_8ee840e3
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: 
unresolved symbol create_proc_entry_Rsmp_b28c3205
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: 
unresolved symbol irq_stat_Rsmp_fb5eda84

Any idea what that means?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: mbox vs maildir

2003-06-05 Thread Stephen Turner
while were talking about mail, whats a good lightweight setup? im looking
for a yahoo like web access mail program that can also do a pop3 or
similiar function. Is apache still the best webserver?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread brett holcomb
Good to know.   Thanks.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 00:27:00 -0400 (EDT)
 "Rev. Jeffrey Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> What made Postfix so good you never looked back.  Or 
what
> made Qmail such that you never wanted to go back to 
it?

Primarily, the configuration.  Postfix's configuration 
seems alot more
straight forward to me.  Qmail was not HARD to 
configure, but I feel alot
more comfortable with postfix.
Sorry for the "me too" post, but, after two all-nighters 
this week dealing
with qmail/vpopmail nightmares, I can honestly say that 
if I ever have to
deal with qmail again, it will be too soon.

It's postfix on all of -my- servers.  Some of my clients 
that I provide
admin services to are already entrenched in existing MTA 
configurations.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-05 Thread Anthony Ventimiglia
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On Friday 06 June 2003 01:09 am, Luke Ravitch wrote:
> On 2003-06-05 20:45, Anthony Ventimiglia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's what I mean by buckets, Popfile lets you have as many as you want,
> > which I like so I can sort normal mail, work related, mailing lists,
> > spam, etc.. as many categories as I want.
>
> Well, you were right about bogofilter being "more *nixy" ;-)
>
> Normally I would use procmail rules for sorting based on mailing
> lists, work related, etc.  On the other hand, doing all that sorting
> based on Bayesian filtering sounds pretty cool.  And, for that matter,
> such a capability probably wouldn't make bogofilter any less *nixy.
> It would still be doing one thing (Bayesian filtering) and (hopefully)
> doing it well.
>

It's a fairly simple thing to enable it to work with more "buckets" 
the Bayesian formula allows for any amount. When I first read about
Bayesian filters, I wrote my own fairly quickly, and I actually have
an almost complete filter that allows for any amount of 'buckets', I
just recently set up this Gentoo system, so I installed Popfile so I
didn't have to install my library and filter. I really like the
popfile interface, so I'll probably end up doing something similar
with my own filter, once I get back to finishing it.


> I guess simple things like To and From headers work well enough for
> mailing lists (and I would normally keep a separate address for work
> vs. home) that I hadn't even thought of using Bayesian filtering for
> anything but spam.  Only with spammers can I not trust the simple
> things!
>
> Spammers should [fate far worse than anything I can think of]!

Anyone who hasn't looked at Bayesian filters should, They give
excellent results with a very simple algorithm, and all you have to do
is train it when you start out. Using more categories makes it learn a
little slower, but usually after seeng just a handful, a Bayesian
filter already predicts with about 80% accuracy. The one I have setup
now has 5 categories and is at 94% accuracy after about 1200 messages.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clear Screen

2003-06-05 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Jamie Dobbs wrote:

> How can I make it so that whenever I log out of a console and return the
> the login prompt the screen clears ie. the login prompt is always at the
> top of a 'clear' screen.

Put this in your .bash_logout:

case "`tty`" in
/dev/vc/[0-9]) clear
esac


This will only clear for console logins.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clear Screen

2003-06-05 Thread blade-
Jamie Dobbs wrote:

How can I make it so that whenever I log out of a console and return the
the login prompt the screen clears ie. the login prompt is always at the
top of a 'clear' screen.
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Hi,
put "clear" (without the quotes) into .bash_logout in your home directory.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-05 Thread Luke Ravitch
On 2003-06-05 20:45, Anthony Ventimiglia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's what I mean by buckets, Popfile lets you have as many as you want, 
> which I like so I can sort normal mail, work related, mailing lists, spam, 
> etc.. as many categories as I want. 

Well, you were right about bogofilter being "more *nixy" ;-)

Normally I would use procmail rules for sorting based on mailing
lists, work related, etc.  On the other hand, doing all that sorting
based on Bayesian filtering sounds pretty cool.  And, for that matter,
such a capability probably wouldn't make bogofilter any less *nixy.
It would still be doing one thing (Bayesian filtering) and (hopefully)
doing it well.

I guess simple things like To and From headers work well enough for
mailing lists (and I would normally keep a separate address for work
vs. home) that I hadn't even thought of using Bayesian filtering for
anything but spam.  Only with spammers can I not trust the simple
things!

Spammers should [fate far worse than anything I can think of]!

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Re: [gentoo-user] ls -l shortcut ll

2003-06-05 Thread Pat Kerwan


On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:47:34PM +1000, blade- wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> In mandrake and other distros? typing ll will produce the same as ls -l
> same as l is ls, that was easy by doing ln -s /bin/ls /bin/l
> but I cant work out how to to ls -l
> 
> I know its lazy but I became accustomed to it.
> 

Add the following to your .bashrc file:

alias ll="ls -l"

- PK

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 install

2003-06-05 Thread Adam Dunstan
mark, tis' ok :)

So what im thinking is "emerge -e world", wont recompile the dependences of
every thing, or will it? So will "emerge -ed world" be better?

And does a stage 3 install have all the required source code to recompile
everything?


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[gentoo-user] Clear Screen

2003-06-05 Thread Jamie Dobbs
How can I make it so that whenever I log out of a console and return the
the login prompt the screen clears ie. the login prompt is always at the
top of a 'clear' screen.


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Re: [gentoo-user] qpopper (again)

2003-06-05 Thread Jamie Dobbs
I got that sorted out - just had to add a '-p 2' to the runline for
'popper' to tell it to accept passwords in a secure format or cleartext.


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[gentoo-user] ls -l shortcut ll

2003-06-05 Thread blade-
Hi all,

In mandrake and other distros? typing ll will produce the same as ls -l
same as l is ls, that was easy by doing ln -s /bin/ls /bin/l
but I cant work out how to to ls -l
I know its lazy but I became accustomed to it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error

2003-06-05 Thread Mark Fisher
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On Thursday 05 Jun 2003 3:08 am, Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

> modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
> iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `nat': iptables who? (do
> you need to insmod?)
> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
>
> What did I do wrong?

What happens when you type the command:

insmod ip_tables

I tend to write a bash script which contains my rules in the format you 
describe, the first 3 things being to load the modules, flush the old rules 
and set the default policies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc compiler cantcreate executables!

2003-06-05 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 21:05, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot 
> create executables.

I got this error when I had a line break in my cflags.  Check it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-05 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 01:53, Ing. Bernardo Lopez O. wrote:
> Which java sdk should i use?

emerge sun-jdk

It's good with browsers and for compilation.


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[gentoo-user] qpopper (again)

2003-06-05 Thread Jamie Dobbs
Well, I've got getmail and qpopper set up on a box here acting as a mail
server (of sorts). I have no problem getting email from the 'server' box
here if I am using something like Evolution to get the mail from it, but
if I try and use any windows clients (like Outlook Express) the server
returns an error message that it requires a client to have APOP support.
I have looked everywhere that I can think of in Outlook and there is no
option for APOP, and I have also tried to find how to make my qpopper
server handle standard POP3 but haven't been able to. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] question here

2003-06-05 Thread Anthony Ventimiglia
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On Thursday 05 June 2003 11:08 pm, Rick Sivernell wrote:
>I am writing a program and I have several shared libs. The code was
> written on my machine using Caldera eWorkstation 3.1.1. Now on gentoo and
> code can not find the libs now. I have put path in /etc/ld.so.conf and no
> joy. I went looking for LD_LIBIRARY_PATH, is there such variable in gentoo
> or is there some other place or way for my program to use my libs.  Many
> thanks

Silly question, but did you run ldconfig after installing the shared libs ?
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[gentoo-user] Re: [lists] [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Anthony Ventimiglia
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On Thursday 05 June 2003 10:42 pm, Klaus D. Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just tried to start krusader as su:
>
> bash-2.05b# krusader &
> [1] 19671
> bash-2.05b# Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
>
> krusader: cannot connect to X server :0.0
>
>
> How can I fix this?

Add the following to /root/.bash_profile 

export XAUTHORITY=/home/ant/.Xauthority

Replace "ant" with your login 
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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Joel Brauer
that's an OpenGL extention for getting 3d working with your graphics
hardware... if your using 4.3 and have a card that's supported you can 
emerge xfree-drm

and that should fix the error
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On Thursday 05 June 2003 08:18 pm, David Friggens wrote:
> > just tried to start krusader as su:
>
> I would say that your easiest option is to use kdesu:
> $ kdesu krusader &

It's still complaining about something I don't understand :
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[2]   Donekrusader
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread Ulrich Plate
Short addendum to the links in my previous post:

http://info.lindows.com/mobilepc/mobilepc.htm

Ok, ok, think whatever you want. It's Debian inside after all... :)

One fervent Gentooist (goes by the name of oniq in the Gentoo forums)
has set up a Linux notebook compatibility website here:

http://www.linuxonthego.com

Linux on Laptops is back in shape since Kenneth Harker started updating
much more frequently than before:

http://www.linux-laptop.net

And last but not least, TuxMobil (formerly known as Mobilix) has an
excellent list of supported laptops across all distributions, a page
about Centrinos, and an entire collection of installation reports about
Gentoo on mobile computers, right here:

http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
http://tuxmobil.org/centrino.html
http://tuxmobil.org/gentoo_mobile.html

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [lists] [gentoo-user] Bayesian spam filtering

2003-06-05 Thread Anthony Ventimiglia
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On Thursday 05 June 2003 09:43 pm, Luke Ravitch wrote:
> On 2003-06-05 07:15, Anthony Ventimiglia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If you mean classification buckets, Bogofilter can be set to classify
> mail as spam, not spam (ham), and not sure.  That's three.

That's what I mean by buckets, Popfile lets you have as many as you want, 
which I like so I can sort normal mail, work related, mailing lists, spam, 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone out there like to settle an argument

2003-06-05 Thread Jim Bailey
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
> I must say that you can run ASP and vbscripts on a *nix platform.
> Sun have a product called Chili-ASP  witch is designed to run as a M$  IIS server, 
> and does so. I have copied ASP files from a M$ machine to a *nix with chili-asp and 
> they work.

Not sure of stability and reliablity in a production environment but
what about the Fox pro stuff running under wine, of course I could be
talking rubbish here since it is not my area of expertise.

Peace Jim

> > 
> > > Rev. Jeffrey Paul wrote:
> > > > far, it's not possible to run exchange or ASP/VBScript on any unix i know
> > > > of).
> > >
> > > http://www.apache-asp.org/


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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Joel Brauer
thats because it should be 
xhost +localhost 
not 
xhost +local
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On Thursday 05 June 2003 07:47 pm, Matthew Graybosch wrote:
> Klaus D. Neumann wrote:
> > How can I fix this?
>
> By default, only the user who started the X session can open X apps in
> that section. If you're not concerned about security, you can disable
> all access control by issuing an "xhost +" command. Or, if you're on a
> network, try using "xhost +local" to let localhost's root account open X
> apps.

Must be something missing on my system:
bash-2.05b# xhost +local
bash: xhost: command not found
bash-2.05b# xhost +
bash: xhost: command not found


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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Matthew Graybosch
Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

bash-2.05b# /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +local
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
/usr/X11R6/bin/xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"

Oups?
/me scratches head. Try taking off the "local"; I might have misread the 
man page. Sorry.

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
On Thursday 05 June 2003 08:18 pm, David Friggens wrote:
> > just tried to start krusader as su:
>
> I would say that your easiest option is to use kdesu:
> $ kdesu krusader &

It's still complaining about something I don't understand :
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[3] 20704
[2]   Donekrusader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] klaus $ Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Chris Black
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:28:08 -0700
"Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> bash-2.05b# /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +local
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: No protocol specified
> 
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"
> 
> Oups?

You run xhost as the user that can open the display (ie, your regular user in this 
case).

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
On Thursday 05 June 2003 08:18 pm, David Friggens wrote:
> > just tried to start krusader as su:
>
> I would say that your easiest option is to use kdesu:
> $ kdesu krusader &

Yeah! That works! Thanks!


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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
On Thursday 05 June 2003 08:16 pm, Matthew Graybosch wrote:
> Klaus D. Neumann wrote:
> > What is the correct way to add  /usr/X11R6/bin/
>
> Root *should* have a .bash_profile file in /root. root's $PATH should be
> set there; just read it to get familiar with it, and then add an "EXPORT
> PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" line to the file. Either that, or you could
> just type "/usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +", or try issuing the "xhost +" command
> as a mortal user; my ~/.xinitrc includes an "xhost +local" that causes
> no trouble.

bash-2.05b# /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +local
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

/usr/X11R6/bin/xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"

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RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread DE SMET Bram (BDSR)
Hehehe glad you understand my point!

> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: donderdag 5 juni 2003 12:05
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail
> 
> 
> Npw wait a minute, are you trying to say that there is some 
> other editor 
> *besides* emacs?
> 
> :)
> 
> On Thursday 05 June 2003 04:51 am, DE SMET Bram (BDSR) wrote:
> > Let us try to stop this before it gets into a flamewar.
> > Next thing we know, people are going to say that emacs is 
> better than 
> > vi
> > ;-)
> >
> > Bram
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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread David Friggens
> just tried to start krusader as su:

I would say that your easiest option is to use kdesu:
$ kdesu krusader &

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Matthew Graybosch
Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

What is the correct way to add  /usr/X11R6/bin/
Root *should* have a .bash_profile file in /root. root's $PATH should be 
set there; just read it to get familiar with it, and then add an "EXPORT 
PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin" line to the file. Either that, or you could 
just type "/usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +", or try issuing the "xhost +" command 
as a mortal user; my ~/.xinitrc includes an "xhost +local" that causes 
no trouble.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Larry Wright
Npw wait a minute, are you trying to say that there is some other editor 
*besides* emacs?

:)

On Thursday 05 June 2003 04:51 am, DE SMET Bram (BDSR) wrote:
> Let us try to stop this before it gets into a flamewar.
> Next thing we know, people are going to say that emacs is better than vi
> ;-)
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
On Thursday 05 June 2003 07:56 pm, Matthew Graybosch wrote:
> Klaus D. Neumann wrote:
> > Must be something missing on my system:
> > bash-2.05b# xhost +local
> > bash: xhost: command not found
> > bash-2.05b# xhost +
> > bash: xhost: command not found
>
> Are you running this as root or with your mortal account?

As root(su)

>  I'm using
> Libranet, so YMMV, but my system claims that xhost lives in either
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xhost or /usr/bin/X11/xhost.
>
> Are either of these directories in your $PATH?

I don't think so:
bash-2.05b# $PATH
bash: /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin: No such file or directory

What is the correct way to add  /usr/X11R6/bin/

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[gentoo-user] question here

2003-06-05 Thread Rick Sivernell

   I am writing a program and I have several shared libs. The code was written on
my machine using Caldera eWorkstation 3.1.1. Now on gentoo and code can not find
the libs now. I have put path in /etc/ld.so.conf and no joy. I went looking for
LD_LIBIRARY_PATH, is there such variable in gentoo or is there some other place
or way for my program to use my libs.  Many thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] newbie question about starting X

2003-06-05 Thread Marcin Dec
On Thursday 05 of June 2003 08:41, John wrote:
>
> Sounds like a font issue in XF86Config file.
>
> Maybe could resolve by using XFS?  Might be worth a try:
> Run this as root:
> # rc-update add xfs default
> # /etc/init.d/xfs start
>
> Then log back in as regular user, and try startx again.
>

Hi

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RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread DE SMET Bram (BDSR)
Let us try to stop this before it gets into a flamewar.
Next thing we know, people are going to say that emacs is better than vi ;-)

Bram

> -Original Message-
> From: Frank Tegtmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: donderdag 5 juni 2003 11:45
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail
> 
> 
> Jonathan Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Never used qmail, but I've heard the author/license/etc is a 
> > bit..odd..
> 
> If you never tried qmail you may have read nothing from the 
> author. If this is the case why do you spread this nonsense then?
> 
> The discussion Postfix vs. qmail nearly always comes down to 
> the point where someone says that either the qmail license or 
> Bernstein sucks. But personal feelings or FUD feeded 
> knowledge are not the base to choose an MTA.
> 
> For technical reasons both are a good choice. There are some 
> cases where Postfix might be better and there are some where 
> qmail wins. Both are supported well through their communities 
> and commercial support is available too for both.
> 
> Everyone who has to make the decision should create a list of 
> criteria that has to be met. Then the software can be checked 
> in test installations against his list.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I change the Home and End keys in X?

2003-06-05 Thread Andy Smith
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 09:13:38AM +0100, Mark Fisher wrote:
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> On Wednesday 04 Jun 2003 12:54 am, Andy Smith wrote:
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> > Just installed gentoo over the weekend and now I notice that my Home
> > and End keys seem to produce different escape sequences when in X
> > compared to from the console.
> 
> I found I had a simpilar thing and posted a fix on the gentoo forums:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=53721

I finally worked out how to change it:

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rxvt*keysym.0xFF57: \e[4~

and then making sure that the same escape codes are set in
/etc/inputrc for xterm (because rxvt sets your TERM to xterm).  Now
my machine produces the same escape codes for Home and End whether I
am in X or at console, and things like mutt are happy.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Harald Arnesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I didn't manage to set up qmail at all. Totally confusing for me.
> 
> Postfix is dead easy.

Such is life. For me its the opposite :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Matthew Graybosch
Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

Must be something missing on my system:
bash-2.05b# xhost +local
bash: xhost: command not found
bash-2.05b# xhost +
bash: xhost: command not found
Are you running this as root or with your mortal account? I'm using 
Libranet, so YMMV, but my system claims that xhost lives in either 
/usr/X11R6/bin/xhost or /usr/bin/X11/xhost.

Are either of these directories in your $PATH?

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
On Thursday 05 June 2003 07:47 pm, Matthew Graybosch wrote:
> Klaus D. Neumann wrote:
> > How can I fix this?
>
> By default, only the user who started the X session can open X apps in
> that section. If you're not concerned about security, you can disable
> all access control by issuing an "xhost +" command. Or, if you're on a
> network, try using "xhost +local" to let localhost's root account open X
> apps.

Must be something missing on my system:
bash-2.05b# xhost +local
bash: xhost: command not found
bash-2.05b# xhost +
bash: xhost: command not found


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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Jonathan Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Never used qmail, but I've heard the author/license/etc is a bit..odd..

If you never tried qmail you may have read nothing from the author. If
this is the case why do you spread this nonsense then?

The discussion Postfix vs. qmail nearly always comes down to the point
where someone says that either the qmail license or Bernstein
sucks. But personal feelings or FUD feeded knowledge are not the base
to choose an MTA.

For technical reasons both are a good choice. There are some cases
where Postfix might be better and there are some where qmail
wins. Both are supported well through their communities and commercial
support is available too for both.

Everyone who has to make the decision should create a list of criteria
that has to be met. Then the software can be checked in test
installations against his list.

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RE: [gentoo-user] stage3 install

2003-06-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 19:17, Rex Young wrote:
> >If were to install gentoo from stage3, can I run emerge -e world to
> >recompile every using my optimizations and USE flags?
> >
> yes.  it's always good to add the -p flag like so:
> 
> emerge -pe world.
> 
> -p means pretend, so that you get a listing of what will be
> emerged.  -e is the shortform of --emptytree.  
> 
> -rex

Cool. Please disregard my last message. I certainly didn't know this
would work. (And it looks like a huge list of things to update on my
system.)

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Matthew Graybosch
Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

How can I fix this?
By default, only the user who started the X session can open X apps in 
that section. If you're not concerned about security, you can disable 
all access control by issuing an "xhost +" command. Or, if you're on a 
network, try using "xhost +local" to let localhost's root account open X 
apps.

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[gentoo-user] starting programs as su?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
Hi,

just tried to start krusader as su:

bash-2.05b# krusader &
[1] 19671
bash-2.05b# Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

krusader: cannot connect to X server :0.0


How can I fix this?

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AW: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread Meidinger Christopher
These sites are excellent. I used an a31p for almost a year with
linux, ran like a charm.

http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/ibm/thinkpad/a31p/

IBM, incidentally, has not stopped supporting linux, they just
stopped preloading it because every user wants a different distro anyway.

But they are getting their notebooks certified.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread Ulrich Plate
MIKE MacMartin wrote:

> > I was wondering if there was any laptop vendors that officially
> > supports
> > linux?
> 
> Eurocom.

I suppose you're referring to this:
http://www.eurocom.com/support/linux/comchart.htm...

Err - that's not my idea of official support... All I can see are a few
lame installation notes (they even dropped testing with Mandrake, it's
now RH 9.0 only) and unsolved problems I suspect would simply go away if
they tried hard enough and/or used different components.

SuSE has a list of "certified hardware" that includes notebooks from
Fujitsu-Siemens, Dell and others, but even those certifications contain
a few caveats (mostly unsupported winmodems). Even IBM, no matter how
busily deploying Linux on servers, didn't continue their former Linux
notebook line. They were putting OpenLinux on ThinkPads at a time, and
maybe SCO wouldn't have set their legal chihuahuas on their heels if
those A and T models had actually sold well... *grin*

So if you can't get official support, all that's left is the assumption
that just about every piece of hardware out there should be supported by
the right kernel configuration. The only way to be absolutely certain of
a given laptop's compatibility with Linux seems to be buying one with
Linux preinstalled. Here's a list of vendors shipping those, from the
top of my head (or my bookmark file, more precisely):

http://xtops.de
http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2000.html
http://www.aslab.com/products/laptops/laptops.html
http://www.emperorlinux.com
http://qlilinuxpc.com/products/laptops/index.html
http://www.kachinatech,com/US/portare.html

And my personal favourite, the yummy Apple PowerBooks with dual-boot Mac
OS X and Gentoo preinstalled:

http://qlilinuxpc.com/products/apple/index.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I start a program on startup from SSH?

2003-06-05 Thread Martin Lesser
Jeff Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey,
> 
> I'm trying to get a program to startup right when I log in remotely
> into a bash shell through SSH. I looked at the bash manual and I tried
> all of the files (~/.bash_rc, ~/.bash_profile, etc.) or at least most
> of them.

Look at man ssh into the FILES section instead:

  $HOME/.ssh/rc
  Commands in this file are executed by ssh when the user logs in
  just before the user's shell (or command) is started.  See the
  sshd(8) manual page for more information.

HTH, Martin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone out there like to settle an argument

2003-06-05 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
I must say that you can run ASP and vbscripts on a *nix platform.
Sun have a product called Chili-ASP  witch is designed to run as a M$  IIS server, and 
does so. I have copied ASP files from a M$ machine to a *nix with chili-asp and they 
work.

Patrick


On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 04:19:02 -0400 (EDT)
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> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> 
> > Rev. Jeffrey Paul wrote:
> > > far, it's not possible to run exchange or ASP/VBScript on any unix i know
> > > of).
> >
> > http://www.apache-asp.org/
> 
> That page -clearly- states it's an ASP/Perl interface -only-.  When
> most people say "ASP", what they really mean is ASP/VBScript.
> 
> Active Server Pages is a method of embedding a script in a page to be
> executed serverside.  99.% of such scripts are written in VBScript
> (for execution on a Microsoft IIS webserver).  I have never heard of a
> VBScript implementation for unix, nor have I ever heard of anyone trying
> to make one.  The "ASP for Apache" module strikes me as totally bogus when
> you can't run any of the scripts that people are talking about when
> they're talking about ASP.
> 
> Thank you, drive through,
> -j
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone out there like to settle an argument

2003-06-05 Thread Rev. Jeffrey Paul
On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

> Rev. Jeffrey Paul wrote:
> > far, it's not possible to run exchange or ASP/VBScript on any unix i know
> > of).
>
> http://www.apache-asp.org/

That page -clearly- states it's an ASP/Perl interface -only-.  When
most people say "ASP", what they really mean is ASP/VBScript.

Active Server Pages is a method of embedding a script in a page to be
executed serverside.  99.% of such scripts are written in VBScript
(for execution on a Microsoft IIS webserver).  I have never heard of a
VBScript implementation for unix, nor have I ever heard of anyone trying
to make one.  The "ASP for Apache" module strikes me as totally bogus when
you can't run any of the scripts that people are talking about when
they're talking about ASP.

Thank you, drive through,
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AW: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread Meidinger Christopher
IBM supports Linux heavily too.
I have run Linux on numerous IBM laptops with very little problem.
Just be sure to avoid WinModems

But just check http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/

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> Betreff:  Re: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports
> linux?
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Wednesday 04 June 2003 07:35 pm, Cedric Veilleux wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >   I was wondering if there was any laptop vendors that officially
> supports
> > > linux?
> > >
> > >   I know linux can work, with more or less tweakings, on most laptops,
> but
> > > which brand actually have enough guts to officially say that linux
> works
> > > well on some or all of their laptops?
> > >
> 
> In Germany Siemens laptops can be bough with Suse pre installed :)
> 
> ~~mvg
> Fi
> nne Boonen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread Finne Boonen

> 
> On Wednesday 04 June 2003 07:35 pm, Cedric Veilleux wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if there was any laptop vendors that officially supports
> > linux?
> >
> > I know linux can work, with more or less tweakings, on most laptops, but
> > which brand actually have enough guts to officially say that linux works
> > well on some or all of their laptops?
> >

In Germany Siemens laptops can be bough with Suse pre installed :)

~~mvg
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Re: [gentoo-user] newbie question about starting X

2003-06-05 Thread John
> I have "very newbie question".

I have a newbie answer!

> When I type startx as non-root user it says me
> that it couldn't load "fixed" font and it backs to console. Running startx
as
> root works fine. At the moment I log in as root into my linux and run kdm.
I
> configured kdm to log in into kde as non-root user. But I prefer logging
as
> non-root user and startx. I'd would be very grateful for any help.
>
> Thanks

Sounds like a font issue in XF86Config file.

Maybe could resolve by using XFS?  Might be worth a try:
Run this as root:
# rc-update add xfs default
# /etc/init.d/xfs start

Then log back in as regular user, and try startx again.

I'm a linux newb myself.. I'm trying to make the transition from both
FreeBSD (server) and XP (desktop)...
So far, I've come a long ways!

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[gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?

2003-06-05 Thread Ing. Bernardo Lopez O.
Which java sdk should i use?

blackdown, sun or ibm? 

Also I want the best performance and the less memory usage (for the jre)

also version 1.2 1.3 1.4? 

Which is the most compatible today 1.3 or 1.4??

Could i use one jdk and a different jre? (like sun - ibm?)

Thanks in advance!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Lincoln A. Baxter
I have to say, I am quite happy with qmail.  It takes a little bit to
wrap one's head around all the little pieces, but the design is really
elegant, and totally unix in philosophy: simple tools that do simple
things reliably, that you string together to do what you want.

I too have implemented spam filtering. I use qconfirm. It works great. I
found qmail quite will documented. Even without the book, with the book
it should be a peice of cake.  I submitted an ebuild for qconfirm in
response to a bug requesting one, but I do not think the bug has even
been looked at by any one on the gentoo team.  It is bug #21580. The
bugs.gentoo.org seems to be down at the moment or I would paste a url.
The ebuild can be downloaded from the attachment, and put in your
portage overlay dir to install with emerge.  Per the requirements for
new ebuilds it is masked.

I love that fact that qmail never runs as root, and will not even
deliver mail to root.

I have to admit I have never played with postfix.

Lincoln


On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 01:06, Gour wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > > What made Postfix so good you never looked back.  Or what
> > > made Qmail such that you never wanted to go back to it?
> > 
> > Primarily, the configuration.  Postfix's configuration seems alot more
> > straight forward to me.  Qmail was not HARD to configure, but I feel alot
> > more comfortable with postfix.
> 
> Interesting. That's the reason why I choose qmail over Postfix when leaving
> Sendmail on my SuSE box.
> 
> I bought Dave Sill's book (it's a Life With Qmail-based install) and following the 
> instruction installed qmail without a problem. Today qmail is running on a 
> production 
> server, with searchable Mailman lists, vpopmail, qmailadmin...
> 
> On my box I also have integrated anti-spam filter as well as anti-virus engine.
> 
> All in all, the lack of clear documentation for Postfix made me to choose Qmail and 
> never looked back :-)
> 
> Sincerely,
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to start wm from console

2003-06-05 Thread Louis C. Candell
"Klaus D. Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> How can I start my favorite wm (KDE) from the console after login as a second 
> user. My SuSE command: WINDOWMANAGER=kde3; startx -- :1
> doesn't seem to work. With it I end up in twm instead.
> -- 

  * echo exec startkde >> ~/.xinitrc
  * startx

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[gentoo-user] how to start wm from console

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
Hi,

How can I start my favorite wm (KDE) from the console after login as a second 
user. My SuSE command: WINDOWMANAGER=kde3; startx -- :1
doesn't seem to work. With it I end up in twm instead.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone out there like to settle an argument

2003-06-05 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Rev. Jeffrey Paul wrote:
far, it's not possible to run exchange or ASP/VBScript on any unix i know
of).
http://www.apache-asp.org/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Gour
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> > What made Postfix so good you never looked back.  Or what
> > made Qmail such that you never wanted to go back to it?
> 
> Primarily, the configuration.  Postfix's configuration seems alot more
> straight forward to me.  Qmail was not HARD to configure, but I feel alot
> more comfortable with postfix.

Interesting. That's the reason why I choose qmail over Postfix when leaving
Sendmail on my SuSE box.

I bought Dave Sill's book (it's a Life With Qmail-based install) and following the 
instruction installed qmail without a problem. Today qmail is running on a production 
server, with searchable Mailman lists, vpopmail, qmailadmin...

On my box I also have integrated anti-spam filter as well as anti-virus engine.

All in all, the lack of clear documentation for Postfix made me to choose Qmail and 
never looked back :-)

Sincerely,
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Re: [gentoo-user] YahooPOPS

2003-06-05 Thread Norberto BENSA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Maxime Larocque}
Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:43 pm


> It means that when I suscribed to Yahoo!, I asked to receive special
> offers from Yahoo! Mail. (I do not receive a lot of those, maybe one per
> month...). This choice gave me access to Yahoo! Direct, which give
> access to mail forwarding and POP access... It has been configured since
> september, so I forgot some of the details...
>

Yup... Just like @yahoo.com.ar. They let you use pop3 and smtp if you accept 
their spam ;-)

Norberto


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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Rev. Jeffrey Paul
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > What made Postfix so good you never looked back.  Or what
> > made Qmail such that you never wanted to go back to it?
>
> Primarily, the configuration.  Postfix's configuration seems alot more
> straight forward to me.  Qmail was not HARD to configure, but I feel alot
> more comfortable with postfix.

Sorry for the "me too" post, but, after two all-nighters this week dealing
with qmail/vpopmail nightmares, I can honestly say that if I ever have to
deal with qmail again, it will be too soon.

It's postfix on all of -my- servers.  Some of my clients that I provide
admin services to are already entrenched in existing MTA configurations.

-j

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone out there like to settle an argument

2003-06-05 Thread Rev. Jeffrey Paul

I administrate gentoo-only installs at two medium-sized companies.

the first company grosses about 10M annually.  the gentoo servers are used
for dns, public websites, in-house databases (mysql), file sharing
(netatalk), VPN, automated offsite backups, the internal web application
(apache+mod_php+mod_ssl+mysql), etc.

the second is much smaller but, as a provider of IT consulting and
hosting, relies on the stability of gentoo a lot more.  all internal and
customer dns is done on gentoo, all customer email
(qmail+vpopmail+sqwebmail), all non-asp customer websites, etc.  all of
their unix servers are gentoo (there are several NT machines because, thus
far, it's not possible to run exchange or ASP/VBScript on any unix i know
of).

the decision to use gentoo in these situations was mine (i am a freelance
consultant), so the companies themselves don't really advertise their use
of gentoo (they aren't advocates like i am, they just like that it works).

-j

On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, David wrote:

> Just thinking, I might have seen one like that before. Do a search on
> 'enterprise'  or 'production'
>
> Dave
>
> On Wednesday 04 June 2003 03:13 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> > This would make an interesting topic. I'd like to see it go!
> >
> > (BTW, I gave up my dignity years ago)
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Wednesday 04 June 2003 03:55 pm, David wrote:
> > > I don't have any real life enterprise environments. But I found of all
> > > the distro's that this was the most stable. I found it so stable, that I
> > > moved my finances over here finally. If I were going to use a linux
> > > distro for an enterprise situation I would take Gentoo. Just my two cents
> > > since you didn't seem to be getting any responses. If I were you I would
> > > post at the Gentoo Forum under 'Other Things Gentoo' and see what comes
> > > up.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:58 am, Jim Bailey wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > due to a lapse in concentration I appeared to of gotten myself into an
> > > > flame over whether it is technically possible to run Gentoo in a large
> > > > datacentre or other enterprise environment.
> > > >
> > > > Ideally I would like to win this debate with some links to real Gentoo
> > > > deploys in such environments if not I will offer an apology and retreat
> > > > with my dignity intact.
> > > >
> > > > Peace Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] su for users?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
Thank you! That worked great.

Next question: How do I login as a second user using kde as my wm? In SuSE I 
did this from the console with: WINDOWMANAGER=kde3; startx -- :1

In Gentoo I get twm instead. :-(

On Wednesday 04 June 2003 09:04 pm, blade- wrote:
> Klaus D. Neumann wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >How can I enable "su" for normal users? Do they have to belong to a
> > certain group?
>
> They have to belong to the wheel group.
>
> Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] su for users?

2003-06-05 Thread blade-
Klaus D. Neumann wrote:

Hi,

How can I enable "su" for normal users? Do they have to belong to a certain 
group?
 

They have to belong to the wheel group.

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[gentoo-user] su for users?

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
Hi,

How can I enable "su" for normal users? Do they have to belong to a certain 
group?
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[gentoo-user] iptables error

2003-06-05 Thread Klaus D. Neumann
Hi,
I emerged iptables, compiled into my kernel everything that smelled like 
forwarding, filtering, iptables, (no modules), and yet, when I issue:

compaq root # iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE

I get:

modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `nat': iptables who? (do you 
need to insmod?)
Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

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Re: [gentoo-user] YahooPOPS

2003-06-05 Thread Norberto BENSA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date ; echo ${Shawn}
Wednesday 04 June 2003 08:34 pm

> Hmm, did you pay yahoo? I get:
> "-ERR Error logging in. Please visit http://mail.yahoo.com";
>
> You must have a premium setup. Or maybe you're making a political
> statement...
>

Or he doesn't have a .com account. For example, if you get a yahoo.com.ar, you 
can use pop, forwarding, and smtp... The wonders of living in Argentina ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread bryce verdier
On Wednesday 04 June 2003 17:38, MIKE MacMartin wrote:
I might recommend powernotebooks.com. Damn nice prices for the hardware as 
well.

bryce
> > I was wondering if there was any laptop vendors that officially supports
> > linux?
>
> Eurocom.
>
> > I know linux can work, with more or less tweakings, on most laptops, but
> > which brand actually have enough guts to officially say that linux works
> > well on some or all of their laptops?
>
> Eurocom.  They have a list of all their laptops, and which versions of
> RedHat they have tested on them - and what works, what doesn't.  Gentoo
> will be about the same - that is, those laptops they say don't work likely
> won't work with G or RH.
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cedric
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound question

2003-06-05 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:47:00 -0500
Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Brett
> 
>This is al I could find about audio on my system
> Did check man devfs and devfs.conf
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # grep audio /proc/pci
>  Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 
>  [AudioPCI-97] (rev 7).
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # 
> 
>my question is what device in dev with devfsd running  is 
>   tied to the sndcard.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # ll /dev/sound
>   total 0
>   drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 .
>   drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # more /etc/modules.devfs
> # /etc/modules.devfs
> # Richard Gooch  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24-MAR-2002
> #
> # THIS IS AN AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED FILE. DO NOT EDIT!!!
> # THIS FILE WILL BE OVERWRITTEN EACH TIME YOU INSTALL DEVFSD!!!
> # Modify /etc/modules.conf instead.
> # This file comes with devfsd-v1.3.25 which is available from:
> # http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/
> # or directly from:
> # ftp://ftp.atnf.csiro.au/pub/people/rgooch/linux/daemons/devfsd-v1.3.25.tar.gz
> 
> #
> ###
> #   Sample configurations that you may want to place in
> #   /etc/modules.conf
> #
> #alias  sound-slot-0sb
> #alias  /dev/v4lbttv
> #alias  /dev/misc/watchdog  pcwd
> #alias  gen-md  raid0
> #alias  /dev/joysticks  joystick
> #probeall   scsi_hostadaptersym53c8xx
> 
> #
> ###
> #   Generic section: do not change or copy
> #
> 
> # Soundcard
> alias /dev/soundsound-slot-0
> alias /dev/audio/dev/sound
> alias /dev/mixer/dev/sound
> alias /dev/dsp  /dev/sound
> alias /dev/dspW /dev/sound
> alias /dev/midi /dev/sound
> 

I just have CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371=y in my kernel config. 

You should see something like this in /var/log/messages

jun  4 18:08:03 richeypc3 kernel: es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274
device id 0x5880 revision 0x02 
Jun  4 18:08:03 richeypc3 kernel: es1371:
found es1371 rev 2 at io 0xe400 irq 10 
Jun  4 18:08:03 richeypc3 kernel:
es1371: features: joystick 0x0 Jun  4 18:08:03 richeypc3 kernel:
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: CRY20(Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev B)

The only I modify in /etc/devfsd.conf is

REGISTERsound/.* PERMISSIONS root.audio 666
REGISTERsnd/.*   PERMISSIONS root.audio 666

On the other hand, if you add your user to group audio (/etc/group),
this may not be necessary.

-> The number one gotcha is that linux likes mute sound by default
(bummer ), so you need to have a mixer program installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing qpopper under 1.4_rc4

2003-06-05 Thread Mathew L. Alexander
You will also need to take out the line in /etc/xinetd.conf that states 
host_only = localhost *or something like that*.


On Wednesday 04 June 2003 03:15 pm, Shawn wrote:
> Make disable = "no" in /etc/xinetd.d/pop-3 and make sure xinetd is
> emerged, and "rc-update xinetd add default" then /etc/init.d/xinetd
> start.
>
> On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 16:32, Jamie Dobbs wrote:
> > Have just emerged qpopper into my system but cannot work out how to get
> > it running. The instructions at the end of the install refer to editing
> > the file /etc/initd.conf but I do not appear to have such a file -
> > where/how do I add whatever command that I require to start qpopper?
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread MIKE MacMartin
>   I was wondering if there was any laptop vendors that officially supports
> linux?

Eurocom.

>   I know linux can work, with more or less tweakings, on most laptops, but
> which brand actually have enough guts to officially say that linux works
> well on some or all of their laptops?

Eurocom.  They have a list of all their laptops, and which versions of RedHat 
they have tested on them - and what works, what doesn't.  Gentoo will be 
about the same - that is, those laptops they say don't work likely won't work 
with G or RH.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Cedric
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[gentoo-user] Which laptop vendors officially supports linux?

2003-06-05 Thread Cedric Veilleux
Hi,

I was wondering if there was any laptop vendors that officially supports 
linux?

I know linux can work, with more or less tweakings, on most laptops, but 
which brand actually have enough guts to officially say that linux works well 
on some or all of their laptops?


Thanks,

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[gentoo-user] X 4.3 DRM new issue

2003-06-05 Thread mike
> I just had to get rid of the radeon driver compiled into the kernel and now
> it works.

... Well, sorta.  For some reason, when I have DRI enabled, and try to exit 
back to GDM, the system freezes up.  Yes, the *system* freezes up - I've 
tried sshing in to the box afterward, and it doesn't like it.  So, after much 
hard rebooting and finding where the kmailrc lives (for some reason, kmail 
keeps forgetting settings info), I think I'm set to go hunting for why.

KDM and GDM both display the system freeze issue, but using startx from the 
prompt does not.

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[gentoo-user] Alsa: ftp.alsa-project.org down - mirror here.

2003-06-05 Thread Ta^3 Deftkore
All day ftp.alsa-project.org was down, n' i'm unable to download the new version (9.4) 
but i found a mirror here:

http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/lib/

Gentoo mirrors are not actualized yet, and dont have the 9.4 version.

:-D

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Re: [gentoo-user] YahooPOPS

2003-06-05 Thread Shawn
Hmm, did you pay yahoo? I get:
"-ERR Error logging in. Please visit http://mail.yahoo.com";

You must have a premium setup. Or maybe you're making a political
statement...

On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 18:05, Maxime Larocque wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I may be missing something, but setting my Mozilla Messenger to fetch 
> from pop.mail.yahoo.com works great for me!
> 
> Maxime
> 
> 
> Shawn wrote:
> 
> >I see hotwayd is in portage, but I'd like to see yahoopops in there too.
> >
> >Should I take a crack at making an ebuild and submitting it somewhere,
> >or what? (keep in mind it would be my first)
> >
> >I like POP access to my old webmail accounts. It makes evolution happy
> >too.
> >
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RE: [gentoo-user] Laptop + Gentoo

2003-06-05 Thread William Kenworthy
Dell Inspiron 8200 with a radeon card.  xfree was/is a pig, especially
trying to use the LCD at high resolution and the external at a lower one
for a projector, and an ext monitor at a different res again.  Nvidia
cards were less fuss!  (by the way, does anyone have an XF86Config that
will allow the LCD to run at a different resolution to the the external
monitor AT THE SAME TIME with on a radeon M9?) When dell first released
the 8000, there were lots of problems with the hardware (no
drivers/setups available), so steer clear of newest models - desktop
hardware is relatively constant and evolutionary, laptops   

Expect some fun when trying to set it up as lots of issues that desktops
dont generally have (odd hardware, suspend, moving across networks,
int/ext monitors/keyboards/mouse, touchpads.  Overall, Mandrake (8.2
days!) was less fuss at first (most things were already set up), but
gentoo is far better once that hurdle is over.  You just keep emergeing,
instead of blotting the disk every 6 months when a new distro comes out,
and then go through the whole setup thing again and again.  Gentoo is
for the long haul!

BillK


On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 23:08, Wrolstad, Andy wrote:
> I have gentoo running on a Dell Inspiron 8200.
> (1.8mhz 256 meg)
> 
> Really no issues that I ran across that were in anyway laptop specific.
> (I have it on four other desktop systems)
> 
> Just user error/ignorance of a general sort. :^)
> 
> My only concern was heat...a 14+ hour compile can generate alot of heat in a
> laptop.
> But that also never seemed to be an issue. 
> Hardwareno problems (modem, DVD, ethernet, nvidia card, etc)
> 
> So I'd say give it a go
> 
> Happy Gentoo'ing
> 
> -Andy-
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Johnny Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] Laptop + Gentoo
> 
> 
> I'm getting a laptop soon. Not the latest model, but reasonably useable 
> (aiming for somewhere around 800 MHz, 256 meg). 
> 
> I'm using Gentoo on my desktop machine and I like it. I wonder if any of you
> 
> have opinions on Gentoo on a laptop. I realize that the usual 
> set-aside-a-day-to-compile-kde rules apply, but other than that, is Gentoo a
> 
> wise choise for laptops? My theory is that as Gentoo is very customizable, 
> and as you _have_ to compile your own kernel, the odds that you're gonna get
> 
> your hardware working is good.
> 
> Any comments? Or does anyone have good experiences with other distros on 
> laptops?
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Re: [gentoo-user] bin2iso problems

2003-06-05 Thread Heschi Kreinick
The reason .bin/cue pairs are better than .iso files is that bin/cue can
encode multiple tracks. So when you convert b/c to .iso, you end up with as
many iso files as there were tracks on the original cd. Presumably this is
what -01 and -02 are. I would guess that 01 is ~600mb and 02 is ~50? You are
probably trying to mount an audio track. 01 will definitely be iso9660. This
page seems to be a good reference on the VCD format:
http://www.dvdrhelp.com/vcd
-Heschi

> burned to a cdr, i should be right to assume that the filetype is
> iso9660.. what am i doing wrong???
>
> help is appreciated


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[gentoo-user] newbie question about starting X

2003-06-05 Thread Marcin Dec
Hi

I have "very newbie question". When I type startx as non-root user it says me 
that it couldn't load "fixed" font and it backs to console. Running startx as 
root works fine. At the moment I log in as root into my linux and run kdm. I 
configured kdm to log in into kde as non-root user. But I prefer logging as 
non-root user and startx. I'd would be very grateful for any help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop and Network under Gentoo

2003-06-05 Thread D.J. Bolderman
On wo, 04 jun 2003, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote:

> Now, since my laptop has a network card I just want to connect it to
> eth1 in the server (a card already reserved for my laptop). eth0
> connects to an ethernet LAN with coaxial cable. eth1 is a RJ45 cable
> connecting directly to the laptop network card. I would like laptop to
> access network card through my server. 

> Do I need to modify anything on the server to share internet to the
> laptop?
> Laptop comes with winXP, I already resized partition to install Gentoo.
> But I need a network connection to install gentoo from stage 1, so I'll
> have to configure it also on the laptop. Any ideas on how to do this?

You must use IP Masquerading on the server to forward IP packets from
and to the laptop. (look for a howto on the net)

> I'm noticing with ethereal in server that if I ping 192.168.0.4 from
> laptop my server won't answer and If I ping 192.168.0.5 (laptop) from
> server nothing returns also. 

Does this happen when you're running XP or Gentoo ? If XP detected
your card, then it must be the IP Masquerading issue.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop + Gentoo

2003-06-05 Thread Jason Nielsen
> 
> Hmmm... isn't this kind of tough if you use KDE/Gnome (they like to keep 
> control of sound with arts/esd)?
> 
> If I can get sound compiled into the kernel, will that help?
> 
> Wes
> 

Good point, I don't use either so that slipped my mind...  but to answer
your question sound will unload properly if you compile the sound into the
kernel.  I'm not sure why that is but probably has something to do with
the kernel suspending and resuming properly.. no running module gets hung!  
I found OSS to suck ass though for my intel8x0 so I switched back to
alsa... you can't compile alsa into the kernel unless you are using 2.5.*
and I had trouble with pcmcia-cs with these kernels.. could be fixed now
but I haven't tried as everything is working fine.  All you really have to
do is find out how to stop esd/arts and restart it on resume.  Basically
in /etc/apm/suspend.d you would have a script that stops all apps running
sound and shuts down esd/arts then runs a '/etc/init.d/alsasound stop' and
in /etc/app/resume.d you would '/etc/init.d/alsasound start' and restart
esd/arts and all sound apps you like to have running and all should work
nice.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] YahooPOPS

2003-06-05 Thread Maxime Larocque
Hi,

I may be missing something, but setting my Mozilla Messenger to fetch 
from pop.mail.yahoo.com works great for me!

Maxime

Shawn wrote:

I see hotwayd is in portage, but I'd like to see yahoopops in there too.

Should I take a crack at making an ebuild and submitting it somewhere,
or what? (keep in mind it would be my first)
I like POP access to my old webmail accounts. It makes evolution happy
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Re: [gentoo-user] bin2iso problems

2003-06-05 Thread Jarrett Graham
Do you have loop compile in the kernel?  If you compile it as a module,
do a modprobe loop.  Try that command again.



On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 18:35, Brian Reichholf wrote:
> i have a bin file, and wanted to extract one file from it,
> so i emerged bin2iso and converted it to an iso file (at least so i
> hoped)
> 
> strangely enough the result was: -01.iso and -02.iso
> (the bin is an image of an SVCD)
> 
> i wasn't that surprised though and just though `what the hell' and
> wanted to mount the -02.iso as a loopback device...
> 
> so here goes:
> 
> $ mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
>or too many mounted filesystems
> 
> i doubt it is the latter (too many filesystems) as i only have 10
> mounted filesystems (including tmpfs that is) and i have no problem to
> mount another network drive. i do have loopback support compiled into
> the kernel (not as module) and seeing as the svcd-bin is inteded to be
> burned to a cdr, i should be right to assume that the filetype is
> iso9660.. what am i doing wrong???
> 
> help is appreciated
> 
> cheers,
> -bri
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[gentoo-user] emerge avifile fails

2003-06-05 Thread Jonathan Chocron
Hi, I have a bit of a problem with a message I don't understand. When
I do an emerge avifile, I get this :

checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++... i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++
checking for C++ compiler default output... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot 
create executables

 
!!! ERROR: media-video/avifile-0.7.32.20030219 failed.
!!! Function econf, Line 303, Exitcode 77
!!! econf failed

I really don't understand, as I can compile everything else !

Does anyone have any pointers ?

Thanks in advance,

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[gentoo-user] Laptop and Network under Gentoo

2003-06-05 Thread Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos
Hi all,

Today I've bought a laptop FujitsuSiemens E7110 with wireless lan, modem
and network card. It came with winXP. I've 3 computers. a server running
gentoo linux and two others (one for my mum and other for my little
brother) running windows.
My server has 3 netword cards.
eth0 - Home LAN
eth1 - Laptop PC
eth2 - Internet

My server PC eth0 is 192.168.0.1, eth1 is 192.168.0.4 and eth2 is
dynamic. With IPtables I provide internet to the windows machines
192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3.The line I have is:
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth2 -j MASQUERADE

Now, since my laptop has a network card I just want to connect it to
eth1 in the server (a card already reserved for my laptop). eth0
connects to an ethernet LAN with coaxial cable. eth1 is a RJ45 cable
connecting directly to the laptop network card. I would like laptop to
access network card through my server. 

Do I need to modify anything on the server to share internet to the
laptop?
Laptop comes with winXP, I already resized partition to install Gentoo.
But I need a network connection to install gentoo from stage 1, so I'll
have to configure it also on the laptop. Any ideas on how to do this?

I'm noticing with ethereal in server that if I ping 192.168.0.4 from
laptop my server won't answer and If I ping 192.168.0.5 (laptop) from
server nothing returns also. 

I'd like any ideas or oppinions on this.

Best regards,

Paulo J. Matos


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[gentoo-user] GkrellM mail watch and KMail Maildirs

2003-06-05 Thread Timothy Grant
Is anyone successfully using GkrellM's Mail/Biff applet with KMail and 
Maildirs?

I've got it configured correctly, I think, it recognizes the directories I 
have setup as maildirs and one folder that is mbox as an mbox file. However, 
it refuses to acknowledge the existence of new email in any of the Maildirs.


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[gentoo-user] bin2iso problems

2003-06-05 Thread Brian Reichholf
i have a bin file, and wanted to extract one file from it,
so i emerged bin2iso and converted it to an iso file (at least so i
hoped)

strangely enough the result was: -01.iso and -02.iso
(the bin is an image of an SVCD)

i wasn't that surprised though and just though `what the hell' and
wanted to mount the -02.iso as a loopback device...

so here goes:

$ mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
   or too many mounted filesystems

i doubt it is the latter (too many filesystems) as i only have 10
mounted filesystems (including tmpfs that is) and i have no problem to
mount another network drive. i do have loopback support compiled into
the kernel (not as module) and seeing as the svcd-bin is inteded to be
burned to a cdr, i should be right to assume that the filetype is
iso9660.. what am i doing wrong???

help is appreciated

cheers,
-bri


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Re: [gentoo-user] sound question

2003-06-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
In /etc/devfsd.conf there should be some entries for sound such as 
/dev/sound, etc. - or at least they will show up once you install the 
drivers.  They did for me with my CMI built into the motherboard.

It looks like it will be /dev/sound.


> Brett
>
>This is al I could find about audio on my system
> Did check man devfs and devfs.conf
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # grep audio /proc/pci
>  Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371
>  [AudioPCI-97] (rev 7).
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick #

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # more /etc/modules.devfs
> # /etc/modules.devfs
> # Richard Gooch  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24-MAR-2002
> #
> # THIS IS AN AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED FILE. DO NOT EDIT!!!
> # THIS FILE WILL BE OVERWRITTEN EACH TIME YOU INSTALL DEVFSD!!!
> # Modify /etc/modules.conf instead.
> # This file comes with devfsd-v1.3.25 which is available from:
> # http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/
> # or directly from:
> #
> ftp://ftp.atnf.csiro.au/pub/people/rgooch/linux/daemons/devfsd-v1.3.25.tar.
>gz
>
> ###
> #   Sample configurations that you may want to place in
> /etc/modules.conf #
> #alias  sound-slot-0sb
> #alias  /dev/v4lbttv
> #alias  /dev/misc/watchdog  pcwd
> #alias  gen-md  raid0
> #alias  /dev/joysticks  joystick
> #probeall   scsi_hostadaptersym53c8xx
>
> ###
> #   Generic section: do not change or copy
> #
>
> # Soundcard
> alias /dev/soundsound-slot-0
> alias /dev/audio/dev/sound
> alias /dev/mixer/dev/sound
> alias /dev/dsp  /dev/sound
> alias /dev/dspW /dev/sound
> alias /dev/midi /dev/sound

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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thanks. I'll need to run something like that and I wondered if it was some 
bigger issues.


> > What made Postfix so good you never looked back.  Or what
> > made Qmail such that you never wanted to go back to it?
>
> Primarily, the configuration.  Postfix's configuration seems alot more
> straight forward to me.  Qmail was not HARD to configure, but I feel alot
> more comfortable with postfix.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo system really slowing down and using swap file more than ever! SOLVED!

2003-06-05 Thread David
I would only worry about the swap if like what was happening to you before; slowing
down. You fixed that though. 
I have 512MB of Ram and 500Meg swap and it is hardly used either. I am not going
to worry about it unless stuff starts going slow. Right now I have mozilla, kmail, 
gkrellm,
konqueror, foldingathome and two terminals going and this is top:

Mem:514248k total,   364768k used,   149480k free,45240k buffers
Swap:   489940k total,0k used,   489940k free,   142756k cached


Dave


On Wednesday 04 June 2003 04:09 pm, Carlos C. Gonzalez wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am happy to report that my memory problems have been SOLVED!  Yipee!
>
> I tried just about everything suggested with nothing unusual showing up to
> my limited Linux ability.  I then did one last thing...I rebooted.
>
> Boy oh boy was my system messed up or what.  I couldn't even get X to start
> after the reboot.  Apparently the "emerge -u system" that I had done with
> cart-blanche updating of all my files back on May 22 had messed it up more
> than I had thought.
>
> My mouse wouldn't work.  X wouldn't start.  I couldn't log into KDE. 
> Internet connectivity wouldn't work on me.  You name it.  Forturnately I
> was still able to log in at a root prompt.  I had to carefully go through
> most of the basic files (like modules.autoload, profile, fstab,
> resolve.conf, etc.. and kinda rebuild everything either from memory, notes,
> or backup).
>
> Now my swap file is NOT being used once again.  AT ALL!  Memory is down to
> HALF of what it was in terms of the amount being used (including all
> cacheing, buf, and applications) and my computer even seems to be running
> much faster.
>
> I kinda surprised myself at being able to get everything running again :). 
> I didn't think I could do it but I guess this Linux thing is growing on me
> more than I had thought.  I think the knowledge read in posts to this list
> is sorta getting into me by osmosis or something :).
>
> Thanks again everyone!
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix vs. Qmail

2003-06-05 Thread Harald Arnesen
"Bobby R. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I thought I would poll the masses and see what the groups take is on
> these two.  I am currently contemplating either of the two for mail at
> the ISP level. I like Postfix, but have been told Qmail is the way to
> go.  
>  
> What do you think? Pros and Cons for both. 

I didn't manage to set up qmail at all. Totally confusing for me.

Postfix is dead easy.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing qpopper under 1.4_rc4

2003-06-05 Thread Shawn
Make disable = "no" in /etc/xinetd.d/pop-3 and make sure xinetd is
emerged, and "rc-update xinetd add default" then /etc/init.d/xinetd
start.

On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 16:32, Jamie Dobbs wrote:
> Have just emerged qpopper into my system but cannot work out how to get
> it running. The instructions at the end of the install refer to editing
> the file /etc/initd.conf but I do not appear to have such a file -
> where/how do I add whatever command that I require to start qpopper?
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] sound question

2003-06-05 Thread Rick Sivernell
Brett

   This is al I could find about audio on my system
Did check man devfs and devfs.conf


[EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # grep audio /proc/pci
 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 
 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 7).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # 

   my question is what device in dev with devfsd running  is 
  tied to the sndcard.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # ll /dev/sound
  total 0
  drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 .
  drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31  1969 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rick # more /etc/modules.devfs
# /etc/modules.devfs
# Richard Gooch  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24-MAR-2002
#
# THIS IS AN AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED FILE. DO NOT EDIT!!!
# THIS FILE WILL BE OVERWRITTEN EACH TIME YOU INSTALL DEVFSD!!!
# Modify /etc/modules.conf instead.
# This file comes with devfsd-v1.3.25 which is available from:
# http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/
# or directly from:
# ftp://ftp.atnf.csiro.au/pub/people/rgooch/linux/daemons/devfsd-v1.3.25.tar.gz

###
#   Sample configurations that you may want to place in /etc/modules.conf
#
#alias  sound-slot-0sb
#alias  /dev/v4lbttv
#alias  /dev/misc/watchdog  pcwd
#alias  gen-md  raid0
#alias  /dev/joysticks  joystick
#probeall   scsi_hostadaptersym53c8xx

###
#   Generic section: do not change or copy
#

# Soundcard
alias /dev/soundsound-slot-0
alias /dev/audio/dev/sound
alias /dev/mixer/dev/sound
alias /dev/dsp  /dev/sound
alias /dev/dspW /dev/sound
alias /dev/midi /dev/sound



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