Re: [gentoo-user] printing from KDE

2003-07-14 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 17:25 schrieb ext Jan Kuipers:
 On Friday 11 July 2003 16:23, Gëzim wrote:
  The question is how do I do this? I went to
  /usr/portage/kde-base/ but then had no way of knowing
  which piece of kde uses CUPS.

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I would have used grep :-)
cd /usr/portage/kde-base  grep -l cups */*.ebuild

Bye...

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[gentoo-user] SSH and VNC

2003-07-14 Thread Bryce
Has anyone tried setting up a VNC session through SSH, from a windows box to a 
linux box? Can you point me to any good documentation and or tips?

thanks in advance,
bryce


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Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?

2003-07-14 Thread Norberto BENSA
Robin H.Johnson wrote:
 Total of 4 processors activated (21272.97 BogoMIPS).

:-P~~

My poor P31G

Detected 1000.175 MHz processor.
Calibrating delay loop... 1990.65 BogoMIPS

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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH and VNC

2003-07-14 Thread Norberto BENSA
Bryce wrote:
 Has anyone tried setting up a VNC session through SSH, from a windows box
 to a linux box? Can you point me to any good documentation and or tips?

Which one is the server? Windows or Linux?

I did it with Windows being the server.

Emerge (ee... doble click) on OpenSSH setup program. Add the passwd and 
group. Setup winvnc to listen ONLY on loopback.

Then on the Linux box (client) 

$ ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 windowsbox
$ vncviewer -encondings tight localhost:0
(I'm using tightvnc)

The other way around can't be that hard. I guess you can use PuTTY on Windows 
to open the tunnel, the rest is almost identical.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH and VNC

2003-07-14 Thread Bryce
Thanks for the info, unfortinitly, i wasn't detailed enough about the setup, 
its a windows viewer to a linux server.

Sorry for the miscommunication.

bryce


On Monday 14 July 2003 07:00 am, Norberto BENSA wrote:
 Bryce wrote:
  Has anyone tried setting up a VNC session through SSH, from a windows box
  to a linux box? Can you point me to any good documentation and or tips?

 Which one is the server? Windows or Linux?

 I did it with Windows being the server.

 Emerge (ee... doble click) on OpenSSH setup program. Add the passwd and
 group. Setup winvnc to listen ONLY on loopback.

 Then on the Linux box (client)

   $ ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 windowsbox
   $ vncviewer -encondings tight localhost:0
   (I'm using tightvnc)

 The other way around can't be that hard. I guess you can use PuTTY on
 Windows to open the tunnel, the rest is almost identical.

 HTH,
 Norberto


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[gentoo-user] creative webcam

2003-07-14 Thread Laurence Baldwin
Hi,
Has any one got a Creative WebCam Go working on linux. After following 
the instructions I dont seem to end up with a video device file. I think 
this is me not looking in the correct place on my devfs.
Any ideas?

Cheers
   Laurence
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[gentoo-user] Portage group issues

2003-07-14 Thread Bryce
Hi all, when i'm emerging some ebuild, portage talks about how the account i'm 
using to build things isn't in the portage class... the funny thing about 
this is that i build things under root( and root is in the portage class).

Any ideas??

Thanks in advance ;),
bryce


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[gentoo-user] LinuxTag

2003-07-14 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
  I took some photos [1] of the GENTOO booth at LinuxTag, Europe's biggest
  Linux and Open Source / Free Software event that was held the last
  couple of days in Karlsruhe, Germany.

  It seemed that the people at the GENTOO booth made the same mistake we
  (the people of the PHP booth) made at the previous LinuxTag events but
  fixed this time: the booth was too crowded by GENTOO people hacking
  and ignoring visitors. I told several friends how much I like GENTOO
  so they went to your booth were they were ignored, because none of the
  hackers felt responsible to deal with interested visitors.

  We remedied this mistake this year by limiting the number of PHP people
  at the booth drasticaly and used other locations to do the hacking.
  That way the booth personnel could accomodate the visitors to their --
  and our -- satisfaction.

  Hope to see you next year,
Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] LinuxTag

2003-07-14 Thread Mikhail P.
Sebastian,

Nice photos! Thanks for letting us know!

regards,
Mikhail.

On Monday 14 July 2003 08:05, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
   I took some photos [1] of the GENTOO booth at LinuxTag, Europe's biggest
   Linux and Open Source / Free Software event that was held the last
   couple of days in Karlsruhe, Germany.

   It seemed that the people at the GENTOO booth made the same mistake we
   (the people of the PHP booth) made at the previous LinuxTag events but
   fixed this time: the booth was too crowded by GENTOO people hacking
   and ignoring visitors. I told several friends how much I like GENTOO
   so they went to your booth were they were ignored, because none of the
   hackers felt responsible to deal with interested visitors.

   We remedied this mistake this year by limiting the number of PHP people
   at the booth drasticaly and used other locations to do the hacking.
   That way the booth personnel could accomodate the visitors to their --
   and our -- satisfaction.

   Hope to see you next year,
 Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge problem

2003-07-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Andrei Ivanov wrote:
emerge -uDp world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuildU ] app-editors/vim-core-6.2-r1 [6.1-r5]
emerge -uD world

world updated...

emerge -uDp world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuildUD] app-editors/vim-core-6.1-r5 [6.2-r1]
What can I do ?
Three options.

(1) File a bug on bugs.gentoo.org.
(2) Upgrade vim to newer version and inject a stub for older one.
(2) Do nothing and wait for problem to be resolved in time.
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[gentoo-user] About kmail

2003-07-14 Thread Juan ngel
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Hello all,
I've using kmail along 4 years now, and since i've never had a complain. And 
neither do now, but i found some problems I couldn get rid of.
The first one is that spellchecking isn't enabled. I emerged ispell, and 
aspell too, but it seems not to work. In the kmail's help is stated that the 
spellchecking facility is achieved though kspell, but I couldn't find that 
either.
The second one is about gpg. I emerged the packages that i'm supposed to need 
to make pgp/mime work with kmail, but it doesn't. I've checked the maillist 
to find similar problems, and made what some other people did to fix the 
problem, but it didn't work for me. When i try to sign messages using the 
external facility I get a No passfhrase error, without asking me for it.
Following the instructions in [1], i discovered that the command echo test 
| gpg -ase -r 0xDEADBEEF | gpg which is supposed to ask me for a passphrase 
twice, don't work at all.
Well, the email got long enough. If anybody could tell me what I possibly did 
wrong, I'd appreciate it very much.
Thank you, cheers,

[1]: http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] About kmail

2003-07-14 Thread kospi
Juan Ángel wrote :
 Hello all,
 I've using kmail along 4 years now, and since i've never had a complain.
 And neither do now, but i found some problems I couldn get rid of.
 The first one is that spellchecking isn't enabled. I emerged ispell, and
 aspell too, but it seems not to work. In the kmail's help is stated that
 the spellchecking facility is achieved though kspell, but I couldn't find
 that either.
 The second one is about gpg. I emerged the packages that i'm supposed to
 need to make pgp/mime work with kmail, but it doesn't. I've checked the
 maillist to find similar problems, and made what some other people did to
 fix the problem, but it didn't work for me. When i try to sign messages
 using the external facility I get a No passfhrase error, without asking
 me for it. Following the instructions in [1], i discovered that the command
 echo test

The easy way :
http://www.cs.kun.nl/~pauldv/kmailgentoo.php

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[gentoo-user] Mailmain setup installation

2003-07-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Hello

I wish to install and use mailman and am following the official guide 
[1] to install it.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml#doc_chap12

However, the first step of this guide asks to edit the ebuild to change 
MAILGID=daemon to MAILGID=280.  Is this really necessary?  If it was 
necessary why does the ebuild not do so?

Also, is there any need to create a new user and group manually or will 
ebuiild do so automatically?

How has mailman been for you?

With regards.
Dhruba Bandopadhyay.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on laptops

2003-07-14 Thread Jonathan C.
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Matt Broughton wrote:

 I'm running dell on an i81k...It would be great if you could sum everything
 you did into a how-to or what not...

I'll do it then.
 I havent gotten as far as tinkering with
 APM or ACPI and the i8k tools but I know I will in the future.  Im
 interested to know what kernel you are running?  I'm currently running a
 self compiled 2.4.21 that is working nicely for me atm.

I am using 2.4.21_rc8-gss.
 
 -Matt

Jonathan 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in worldupgrade!???

2003-07-14 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:02:45 -0700
Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 However, I also have a headless server that does nothing but serve
 apache(+mod_perl +php), squid, samba and postfix (I have USE=-X
 -gnome -kde) suddenly wants to install things like gnome-print,
 gnome-libs, etc.


I think the devil in this deal could be samba depending on CUPS, with
cups restorting to gimp-print for drivers that i doesn't support
internally..

But, could you please check this a bit further?  Full output of emerge
-pu world, then  iterate through the list with emerge -puv for each
Update package until you have the one that is pulling in the printer
applications?


 
 Any reason for these changes?  Or is there any sort of review process
 that these go through to see if people need the extra deps?  Normally
 I wouldn't mind, but I am using gentoo on this little server (3G of
 drives) because of it's (former) ability to strip things down to the
 bare bones.

Usually such changes come in because an upstream package moves from one
library-version to another, in the recent Grip case where people kept
whining they moved the dependencies from gnome-libs-1.4 to libgnome,
ORBit2 instead of ORBit ..   

The reason people kept seein more packages was that gnome-libs has
been torn apart into at least 4 different packages to further separate
the code.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???

2003-07-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I did an emerge sync and then emerge -u --deep system -p which listed rsync 
as the only package to be upgraded - I did upgrade it.  I then did emerge -u 
--deep world -p and get a long list of stuff - most of it Gnome stuff marked 
N.
Exactly the same thing happened to my server just now which has no X or 
gnome or GUI installed at all.  The reason was the tcl/tk use flag. 
Once I disabled it they all disappeared leaving only upgrades.  What a 
relief!

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Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router - solved!

2003-07-14 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:28:21 -0500
Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:09:17 -0600
 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm not sure what the difference is, but I never have to specify DNS
  on my Win98 boxes behind a router.
  
 Are you running your Win98 box DHCP or static?
 
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DHCP.  The router handles everything.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo is slow

2003-07-14 Thread Keppy
Mark Knecht wrote:

Daniel,
  One sort of urban legend that's out there in the Linux audio
community has to do with the value of a dual vs. single processor
systems and how much they can help in this area. 

  The argument seems to go that on a DP machine one processor will
handle the GUI/OS/drivers and the second processor will handle the audio
application. However, no one (that I know of anyway) has really measured
this quantitatively and shown it to be true. (It might be to subjective
anyway...) Any thoughts?
  My concern has generally been that every SMP machine I've looked at
(admittedly not that many) seems to be a generation behind in chipsets
and memory technology which goes against the goal. If I agree to pay
more money for a second processor I'd at least like the rest of the
machine to be equivalent technology.
  I've never used a Linux SMP machine, so I have no idea how one tells
the system to run a certain app on a certain processor, but I can see it
should be possible I suppose.
  Thanks for any thoughts you might have.
 

The Australian Partnership for Advanced Computing has researched that 
little dilemma:

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php?id=1748055127

The article says they now have 150 clustered single-processor Dell boxes 
and didn't go with SMP boxes for price/performance reasons.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Serious Texmacs ebuild Problem

2003-07-14 Thread Frank Hellmuth
On Monday 14 July 2003 01:28, Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos wrote:
 Hi all,

 No matter which texmacs version I emerge I always get:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] pmatos $ texmacs

 Fatal error: guile seems not to be installed on your system in
 'install_texmacs'

 I've tried to emerge emacs in a new gentoo system (just after
 bootstraping it) and I get the same after emerge.
 Any ideas what's this about?

 Was anybody able to solve this situation?

TeXmacs works now for me, after setting a symlink:

# ln -s /usr/share/guile/1.6/ /usr/share/guile/1.6.4

I found this after checking with

$ strace -e open texmacs

what files are opened during the startup. That log ended with

open(/usr/share/guile/1.6.4/ice-9/boot-9.scm, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)

So I just made a try in linking the missing 1.6.4 directory to the existing 1.6.
It worked for me, so I guess it can't be to wrong, although I'm no expert
in guile.

Hope it works for you, too. Please tell if it works so we can do a bug report.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?

2003-07-14 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Daniel Robbins wrote:
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 09:47:15PM -0400, Jerry McBride wrote:

Absolutely fantastic.

Dan, can you do me a favor? Next time you boot the opteron, make a note what
the bogomip number is and let us know... I'm curious what it reports.
Thanks and I can't wait to jump into the next generation AMD...


Calibrating delay loop... 2778.72 BogoMIPS
Calibrating delay loop... 2785.28 BogoMIPS
Total of 2 processors activated (5564.00 BogoMIPS).
That is from CyberLogic's dual Opteron 240 system.
Calibrating delay loop... 3591.37 BogoMIPS
Calibrating delay loop... 3591.37 BogoMIPS
Total of 2 processors activated (7182.74 BogoMIPS).
This is a dual Athlon MP 2200+ system.

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[gentoo-user] how to prevent apacheto upgrade ?

2003-07-14 Thread Sylvain
Hello !

I'm affraid my question is a faq, but i have had a look at the
Portage Manual, and what i tried doesn't work :
i use axkit and apache, and i don't want to upgrade apache, since
axkit doesn't know how to work with apache2.
so i fixed the apache version in my /var/cache/edb/world file :
...
=net-www/apache-1.3.27-r3
...

but when i try 'emerge -up world', portage still want to upgrade apache :-(

I know apache1 and apache2 use different slots, so it won't uninstall my apache-1.3.27
but i really don't want this apache2 when upgrading world.


Any idea about that ?
(Im using Portage 2.0.48-r1)

Regards,

sylvain

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[gentoo-user] Excessive caching hardware or software ?

2003-07-14 Thread Jonathan C.
Hi all,

A few months ago I talked with some people on this list about
excessive caching on laptop computers. We could not find a
solution. Howevber, the title of the thread was cryptic, so I hope
that with the new title more people will react.

We noticed that that copying a file or making extensive access to the
hard drive ate up all the memory. For instance, when I copy a 200Mo
file from one partition to another (same physical HD), the file copies
fine but 200Mo of RAM get eaten up in the process. The question is :
Is this gentoo related ? Is this kernel related ? Is this hardware
related ? I may add that this seems to be vendor independent since
both Dell and Toshiba laptops seem to have the same problem.

Thanks in advance,

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[gentoo-user] lots of duplicates in /usr/lib

2003-07-14 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Hi!

on one  system I have found lots of duplicate libs in /usr/lib:

-rw-r--r--1 root root  1303154 May 25 02:48 cracklib_dict.pwd
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1303154 May 25 02:48 cracklib_dict.pwd
...
-rw-r--r--2 root root  561 Apr 28 22:42 gnomemmConf.sh
-rw-r--r--2 root root  561 Apr 28 22:42 gnomemmConf.sh
...
-rw-r--r--2 root root 1006 Mar 26 19:22 libBrokenLocale.a
-rw-r--r--2 root root 1006 Mar 26 19:22 libBrokenLocale.a
...
-rw-r--r--2 root root37294 Jan 27 16:14 
libORBitCosNaming.a
-rw-r--r--2 root root37294 Jan 27 16:14 
libORBitCosNaming.a
...

there are 307 duplicates found within /usr/lib (using ls /usr/lib ! 
uniq -d ! wc -l).

Any idea where these come from?

Kernel: 2.4.21

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[gentoo-user] Issue installing xfree

2003-07-14 Thread Sergy Vasiliev
Hi all
I'm installing my Gentoo box without internet access. I download files where it's 
possible and then copy them to $DISTDIR (/usr/portage/distfiles). Everything was good 
until emerge xfree. Compilation started but then it tried to look 
XFree86-compose.dir.bz2 in internet, and of course stoped (no connection). I thorouly 
checked that this file is REALLY exists in $DISTDIR. Having read the bug about this 
file I downloaded new one, checked that this file is the same on all the mirrors. But 
anyway... Emerge xfree starts with Resuming download no error messages.
Any ideas about what is going on?

Looking forward to hear from you,
Best regards, Sergy Vasiliev
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Re: [gentoo-user] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stablestatus

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Watson
Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 -- quoting Bjorn Sodergren --
 I would rather see apache 2.0 ebuild renamed to apache2 , so if we
 wanted to use apache 2.0 we could, than make a mistake like this.

 Emerge apache2 instead of just apache

 I second that! Wouldn't it be possible to make an extra ebuild 
 apache2 for that? Or with a USE flag, like its now (is it so now?)?

I third this, also potentially for other packages, like mysql (just
gone from 3.x to 4x) and not to mention VMware where upgrading will
break *everyone's* configuration unless they first go out and buy a
licence for the new version. 

IMO this kind of upgrade should happen on purpose because someone
chose to do it, not as the result of emerge -u.

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[gentoo-user] Background in gnome...

2003-07-14 Thread Budd, Tracy
I set the background image from the background option in the main menu. If
I restart gnome, first the new background comes up, then a blank desktop
comes up on top of the background image. If I use the background app
again, and select the drop down list that selects gradients for the desktop,
the image pops up again. The image also comes up if I use nautilus. Any
ideas how to fix this? BTW, I would like the background image to come up and
stay up.
TIA
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[gentoo-user] qmail + virus scan

2003-07-14 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
Hi all,

I am setting up a new qmail server, but have a dumb problem with it. I 
want to integrate uvscan (McAffee virus scanner), but w/o 
qmail-scanner/procmail/whatever. So I mv'ed my bin/qmail-queue to 
bin/qmail-queue.orig and made my own bin/qmail-queue (which calls 
bin/qmail-queue.orig).

This setup made no problem with SpamAssassin, so I call uvscan from 
within this new qmail-queue as well. Now I have the problem, that 
every mail is scanned, but I get return code 127 (??) and the 
following output in my log:

/usr/local/bin/uvscan: error while loading shared libraries: 
libc.so.6: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate 
memory

If I call uvscan from a normal user account, I get no error (and 
correct return code), but if I call it from qmail-queue (as user 
vpopmail), I get RC 127 and this error log.

Has somebody an idea? I think it's a file permission problem, but I 
have no idea why I don't get this error, if I call uvscan from cmd 
line...

Greetings and TIA, Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Feature- Systrace Support?

2003-07-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Mystilleef wrote:
Hello Gents,

I apologize for the rather trivial question. There is a feature in the 
Linux kernel called Systrace Support. It is found under General 
Setup in the kernel menu configuration table. I'd appreciate it 
anyone could explain what this feature's functions are, and if I do, 
or do not, need it. 

I use the gentoo-sources version 2.4.20 revision 5 Linux kernel and 
the help dialog for the feature doesn't provided any explanation as 
to Systrace Support's benefit or function. Thank you in advance to 
for time and assistance. 

Regards,

Mystilleef

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http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/provos/systrace/
http://www.systrace.org/
Under normal circumstances you probably don't need it.  Do perform a 
google search when you are in doubt.

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Re: [gentoo-user] qmail + virus scan

2003-07-14 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Matthias F. Brandstetter --
 Has somebody an idea? I think it's a file permission problem, but I
 have no idea why I don't get this error, if I call uvscan from cmd
 line...

one thing: If I sudo the uvscan call from my qmail-queue file, then I 
get the correct RC and no error -- maybe this info helps somebody...

Greetings, Matthias

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[gentoo-user] sa-learn learning for all users

2003-07-14 Thread Christian Herzyk
Hello,

when I installed SpamAssassin I had a look at the docs and some related 
websites. I found a line that should be added to make sa-learn a central 
file of the learned email instead of one for every user that uses sa-learn.
At that time I thought: Let's try it first and configure it later if you 
decide to use it.

My problem is: I can't find this entry anywhere now.
Can someone help here?
Thanks

Christian

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[gentoo-user] Courier Imap

2003-07-14 Thread Christian Herzyk
Hello again,

here is another mail problem.

I would like to sort my mail (using procmail) into several folders of a 
maildir.
Something like the following:
user
user/test
user/gentoo/
usr/somethingelse
...

procmails adds the folders new/cur/tmp to each (sub-)directory.
This works fine.
But courier-imap only displays the contents of the maindir (user) 
respectively its new/cur/tmp subdirs.
I cannot acces anything in test and so on.

What do I have to do to get these?

Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?

2003-07-14 Thread Terje Kvernes
Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [ ... ]

 Dan, can you do me a favor? Next time you boot the opteron, make a
 note what the bogomip number is and let us know... I'm curious what
 it reports.

  bogomips aren't worth anything in real life.  they tend to reflect
  the clock frequency of the CPU and little else.  at work we've just
  ordered a dual 1.8Ghz Opteron to do numbercrunching.  we've also
  bought a dual 3.06Ghz P4 Xeon with HyperThreading to compare it
  with, but there is very little doubt that the Opteron will come out
  first.

  have a peek at this review from Toms Hardware:
  url: http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030422/index.html 

  (sigh, I three more days until the boxes come to me.  but they won't
  be running Gentoo though.)

  [ ... ]


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Re: [gentoo-user] lots of duplicates in /usr/lib

2003-07-14 Thread Terje Kvernes
Thomas Schweikle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi!
 
 on one  system I have found lots of duplicate libs in /usr/lib:
 
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  1303154 May 25 02:48 cracklib_dict.pwd
 -rw-r--r--1 root root  1303154 May 25 02:48 cracklib_dict.pwd
 ...
 -rw-r--r--2 root root  561 Apr 28 22:42 gnomemmConf.sh
 -rw-r--r--2 root root  561 Apr 28 22:42 gnomemmConf.sh
 ...
 -rw-r--r--2 root root 1006 Mar 26 19:22 libBrokenLocale.a
 -rw-r--r--2 root root 1006 Mar 26 19:22 libBrokenLocale.a
 ...
 -rw-r--r--2 root root37294 Jan 27 16:14 
 libORBitCosNaming.a
 -rw-r--r--2 root root37294 Jan 27 16:14 
 libORBitCosNaming.a
 ...
 
 there are 307 duplicates found within /usr/lib (using ls /usr/lib ! 
 uniq -d ! wc -l).
 
 Any idea where these come from?

  file system corruption?  what does 'ls -i' tell you about the
  identical files?

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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH and VNC

2003-07-14 Thread Elton Algera

You can also use PuTTY on windows with an X viewer. You then connect to the 
linux server via SSH with X-forwarding enabled.

On Monday 14 July 2003 02:19, Bryce wrote:
 Thanks for the info, unfortinitly, i wasn't detailed enough about the
 setup, its a windows viewer to a linux server.

 Sorry for the miscommunication.

 bryce

 On Monday 14 July 2003 07:00 am, Norberto BENSA wrote:
  Bryce wrote:
   Has anyone tried setting up a VNC session through SSH, from a windows
   box to a linux box? Can you point me to any good documentation and or
   tips?
 
  Which one is the server? Windows or Linux?
 
  I did it with Windows being the server.
 
  Emerge (ee... doble click) on OpenSSH setup program. Add the passwd
  and group. Setup winvnc to listen ONLY on loopback.
 
  Then on the Linux box (client)
 
  $ ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 windowsbox
  $ vncviewer -encondings tight localhost:0
  (I'm using tightvnc)
 
  The other way around can't be that hard. I guess you can use PuTTY on
  Windows to open the tunnel, the rest is almost identical.
 
  HTH,
  Norberto

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Re: [gentoo-user] Courier Imap

2003-07-14 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
You need to sort like this

BAD: user/test

GOOD:  user.test/

Note the trailing slash.


Tom Veldhouse


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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:18 AM
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 Hello again,
 
 here is another mail problem.
 
 I would like to sort my mail (using procmail) into several folders of a 
 maildir.
 Something like the following:
 user
 user/test
 user/gentoo/
 usr/somethingelse
 ...
 
 procmails adds the folders new/cur/tmp to each (sub-)directory.
 This works fine.
 But courier-imap only displays the contents of the maindir (user) 
  respectively its new/cur/tmp subdirs.
 I cannot acces anything in test and so on.
 
 What do I have to do to get these?
 
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[gentoo-user] xconsole

2003-07-14 Thread tobias . edler
I want to have a window, which displays my log lessages. So i tried to
setup xconsole:
mkfifo /dev/xconsole
chgrp users /dev/xconsole  chmod 775 /dev/xconsole
I added this to syslog.conf
daemon.*,mail.*;\
news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   | /dev/xconsole
and restarted sysklogd 
now i run 'xconsole -f /dev/xconsole' ad all i get is: couldn't open
console. I changend /dev/xconsole to 777, didn't help. But when i run 'sudo
xconsole -f /dev/xconsole', it doesn't complain. But it also doesn't show
any log messages :-(

Regands, 
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Re: [gentoo-user] qmail + virus scan

2003-07-14 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Matthias F. Brandstetter --
 Has somebody an idea? I think it's a file permission problem, but I
 have no idea why I don't get this error, if I call uvscan from cmd
 line...

Finally ... I got it :)

The problem was, that my softlimit call for the qmail-smtpd was too 
low. I raised it to 5000, and now everything works like a charm!

Greetings, Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That's interesting.  I'll have to remember this.  In my case getting rid of 
evolution fixed it.

My concern is what changed to suddenly cause all this Gnome junk to be 
needed??


 Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
  I did an emerge sync and then emerge -u --deep system -p which listed
  rsync as the only package to be upgraded - I did upgrade it.  I then did
  emerge -u --deep world -p and get a long list of stuff - most of it Gnome
  stuff marked N.

 Exactly the same thing happened to my server just now which has no X or
 gnome or GUI installed at all.  The reason was the tcl/tk use flag.
 Once I disabled it they all disappeared leaving only upgrades.  What a
 relief!

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Re: [gentoo-user] win98 config behind Gentoo router - solved!

2003-07-14 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 05:21:43 -0600
Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:28:21 -0500
 Ian Truelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:09:17 -0600
  Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'm not sure what the difference is, but I never have to specify
   DNS on my Win98 boxes behind a router.
   
  Are you running your Win98 box DHCP or static?
  
  -- 
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 DHCP.  The router handles everything.
 
Then that is why. The DHCP server is exporting the DNS information to
your system automatically.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
That's exactly my question which hasn't been answered yet.  Why all of a 
sudden do I need tons of Gnome junk for the same apps that have been happily 
running without it??  Is it a Gnome issue in that Gnome has decided to 
include the world for every little thing or is it a Gentoo setup?

 Nothing on the server use flag wise has changed since the last upgrade,
 so this is a bit perturbing, and annoying.

 Any reason for these changes?  Or is there any sort of review process
 that these go through to see if people need the extra deps?  Normally I
 wouldn't mind, but I am using gentoo on this little server (3G of drives)
 because of it's (former) ability to strip things down to the bare bones.

 alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Ahh, I see.  Thank you.  It sounds like the Gnome people are the culprit.  
What a hassle to have to pull in tons of stuff for one app.


 Usually such changes come in because an upstream package moves from one
 library-version to another, in the recent Grip case where people kept
 whining they moved the dependencies from gnome-libs-1.4 to libgnome,
 ORBit2 instead of ORBit ..

 The reason people kept seein more packages was that gnome-libs has
 been torn apart into at least 4 different packages to further separate
 the code.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent apacheto upgrade ?

2003-07-14 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:02:24 +0200
Sylvain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello !
 
 I'm affraid my question is a faq, but i have had a look at the
 Portage Manual, and what i tried doesn't work :
 i use axkit and apache, and i don't want to upgrade apache, since
 axkit doesn't know how to work with apache2.
 so i fixed the apache version in my /var/cache/edb/world file :
 ...
 =net-www/apache-1.3.27-r3
 ...
 
 but when i try 'emerge -up world', portage still want to upgrade
 apache :-(
 
 I know apache1 and apache2 use different slots, so it won't uninstall
 my apache-1.3.27 but i really don't want this apache2 when upgrading
 world.
 
Create the file /etc/portage/profiles/package.mask and put the following
in it:

=net-www/apache-2.0.45

That will stop the system from trying to upgrade to apache2.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent apacheto upgrade ?

2003-07-14 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Sylvain wrote:

Hello !

I'm affraid my question is a faq, but i have had a look at the
Portage Manual, and what i tried doesn't work :
i use axkit and apache, and i don't want to upgrade apache, since
axkit doesn't know how to work with apache2.
so i fixed the apache version in my /var/cache/edb/world file :
...
=net-www/apache-1.3.27-r3
...
but when i try 'emerge -up world', portage still want to upgrade apache :-(

I know apache1 and apache2 use different slots, so it won't uninstall my apache-1.3.27
but i really don't want this apache2 when upgrading world.
Add net-www/apache-2 to /usr/portage/profiles/default-x86-1.4/packages

:)

I had this exact same problem the other day, this fix worked for me. It 
will tell Gentoo to *not* upgrade to Apache 2...



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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH and VNC

2003-07-14 Thread Gary Davis
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:43:14 +0200
Elton Algera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 You can also use PuTTY on windows with an X viewer. You then connect to the 
 linux server via SSH with X-forwarding enabled.
 
 On Monday 14 July 2003 02:19, Bryce wrote:
  Thanks for the info, unfortinitly, i wasn't detailed enough about the
  setup, its a windows viewer to a linux server.
 
  Sorry for the miscommunication.


tightvnc makes it real easy to do what you want.   
Check out http://www.tightvnc.com/vncserver.1.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] Courier Imap

2003-07-14 Thread Christian Herzyk
Thanks, I will give that a try.

Christian

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

You need to sort like this

BAD: user/test

GOOD:  user.test/

Note the trailing slash.

Tom Veldhouse

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excessive caching hardware or software ?

2003-07-14 Thread Phil Barnett
On Monday 14 July 2003 8:03 am, Jonathan C. wrote:
 Hi all,

 A few months ago I talked with some people on this list about
 excessive caching on laptop computers. We could not find a
 solution. Howevber, the title of the thread was cryptic, so I hope
 that with the new title more people will react.

 We noticed that that copying a file or making extensive access to the
 hard drive ate up all the memory. For instance, when I copy a 200Mo
 file from one partition to another (same physical HD), the file copies
 fine but 200Mo of RAM get eaten up in the process. The question is :
 Is this gentoo related ? Is this kernel related ? Is this hardware
 related ? I may add that this seems to be vendor independent since
 both Dell and Toshiba laptops seem to have the same problem.

Well, it's used, and it's available.

Unused ram is wasted ram. Since Linux can't possibly know when you'll use a 
disk read more than once, it uses all available spare ram to cache it. If you 
need that ram for something else, it becomes instantly available (within 
reason).

This is a Linux design issue and is perfectly normal operation.

Here's a ram snapshot from my server:

11:07am  up 41 days, 20:42,  1 user,  load average: 0.15, 0.24, 0.32
Mem:  1023108K av, 1008392K used,   14716K free,   0K shrd,   71596K buff
Swap:  610384K av,   23352K used,  587032K free 778280K cached

As you can see, Linux maintains a small amount of free ram (around 15 meg 
here), and all other ram is used. In this case, 778M is just used as disk 
cache, which means that over the long run, my server needs about 1/4th of the 
ram that I have given it. However, this large disk cache means that many disk 
reads come from ram instead of the hard drives. On a server, this is a great 
thing.

May I suggest that you run xosview and be concerned with the area in green.

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[gentoo-user] Kernel depends

2003-07-14 Thread Cristiano Paris
The xconfig of kernel 2.4.x series depends on wish, the TCL/TK visual
interpreter. Sinci TCL/TK is not installed by default, I think is should
be included in the dependency list of any kernel.

Cristiano


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel depends

2003-07-14 Thread Mike Wojcikiewicz
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On Monday 14 July 2003 11:41, Cristiano Paris wrote:
 The xconfig of kernel 2.4.x series depends on wish, the TCL/TK visual
 interpreter. Sinci TCL/TK is not installed by default, I think is should
 be included in the dependency list of any kernel.

 Cristiano


No, this is a bad idea... xconfig assumes you want to run X in addition to 
tcl/tk.. I cant tell you how many people use gentoo with no X environment 
(myself included on several production machines) but there are a lot, and to 
make the kernel depend on having that installed is excessive.  If you need 
xconfig you probably know enough to emerge tcl/tk anyways.. I live in 
menuconfig quite happily, as I'm sure most people do:)

just my $0.02CDN

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel depends

2003-07-14 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:51:19 -0400
Mike Wojcikiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 14 July 2003 11:41, Cristiano Paris wrote:
  The xconfig of kernel 2.4.x series depends on wish, the TCL/TK
  visual interpreter. Sinci TCL/TK is not installed by default, I
  think is should be included in the dependency list of any kernel.
 
 No, this is a bad idea... xconfig assumes you want to run X in
 addition to tcl/tk.. I cant tell you how many people use gentoo with
 no X environment (myself included on several production machines) but
 there are a lot, and to make the kernel depend on having that
 installed is excessive.  If you need xconfig you probably know enough
 to emerge tcl/tk anyways.. I live in menuconfig quite happily, as I'm
 sure most people do:)
 
 just my $0.02CDN


oh, emerve -vp vanilla-sources  shows the tcltk USE flag. now I dearly
wonder what that might do , and why USE=tcltk emerge -p
vanilla-sources will enable X?   *ho humm*  

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[gentoo-user] Starting Zope via xinetd

2003-07-14 Thread Thorsten Kampe
Hi,

I want to start Zope on my one computer via xinetd. This is obviously
not as trivial as [1] as the startup scripts /etc/init.d/zope-2_6_1
and /etc/conf.d/zope-2_6_1 are rather long and complicated.

Does anyone know how to achieve this?

Thorsten

[1] service zope
{
type= UNLISTED
port= 8080
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= zope
server  = python z2.py
server_args = whatever
disable = no
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[gentoo-user] X Screen

2003-07-14 Thread John Lowell



One very positive aspect of using Gentoo in my 
opinion is that, when initiating X, one sees a black background with a white 
mouse X rather than the traditional gray, cross-hatched backround with a black 
X. Am I right to to assume that some entry in /etc/X11/Sessions/Xsession is 
responsible for the black background or is some other file involved?How is 
this result achieved, anyway?

John Lowell


Re: [gentoo-user] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stablestatus

2003-07-14 Thread cal
Richard Watson said:
 Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 IMO this kind of upgrade should happen on purpose because someone
 chose to do it, not as the result of emerge -u.

But emerge -u IS on purpose. Nobody just has that in their cron to run
every night. (At least I HOPE nobody does) Shouldn't it be the admin's
responsibility to make sure he/she knows what packages are being upgraded
BEFORE the upgrade? Why must portage save them from themselves?

BTW, there is a simple and well publicized way to avoid this problem.
(I've done it on 9 of my 10 gentoo servers) simply populate package.mask
with the proper info. If you nail it to never install apache 2.0.xxx then
it never will but you will continue to to get any updates that come out
for the 1.x series.

Sorry but I disagree with you. Apache 2 is not a different product. It's a
major version change to Apache. (Same with mysql and PHP)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [DEBATE] Gentoo on laptops

2003-07-14 Thread Fredrik Jagenheim
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 04:49:10PM +0200, Christian Aust wrote:

 [Snip about FS on laptops]
 
 Exactly, esp. when you happen to have a ACPI-only laptop: Sometimes you 
 don't know when your battery runs out.

I know exactly when my laptop will run out of battery using ACPI.
Since ACPI gives me a) the powerdrain in mW from the battery and b)
how much power in mWH there's left in the battery. The calculation is
left as an excerise to the reader (and my ruby-script ;).

Of course, it could be lying. 

  3) APM or ACPI ?
 
 ACPI will supersede APM one day, until then APM has much better features 
 (sleep, hibernate). 

ACPI has sleep and hibernate.
'echo -n 3  /proc/acpi/sleep' for sleep
'echo -n 4  /proc/acpi/sleep' for hibernate
Not sure about the numbers or hibernate. I don't have any partition
on which it can save the RAM.

ACPI also gives me access to throttling and performance stepping. And
atleast performance stepping is crucial to squeeze a few extra hours
out of that battery. Throttling doesn't do that much though, just
makes the machine slower. ;)

E.g. I can get lower power consumtion by stepping down my 2Ghz
processor to 1.2Ghz, than using the throttle. I can still watch movies
with mplayer with the stepdown, but not with throttling. YMMV
ofcourse. :)

  4) Which kernel to use ?

gentoo-sources and development-sources, just to check what's in queue
for the next linux release. 

  5) Framebuffer or not ?

No framebuffer... Used to run it, but figured it was just a waste of
powercycles since I'm booting into X anyway.

As for the windowmanager, I use Ion (devel version). It's /the/
keyboard driven windowmanager, and since all mice suck on laptops
(whether it's a touchpad or the that rubbery g-spot on the middle of
the keyboard), I like to stick to keyboards. Ion is not for everyone,
and I doubt it's even usable for most people, but it suits my needs
perfectly...

Just my two ören (pending conversion to Euro cents)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel depends

2003-07-14 Thread Anthony de Boer
  ...
 //Spider
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  # emerge irate
  Calculating dependencies   
  emerge: there are no masked or unmasked ebuilds to satisfy irate.

  !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

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Re: [gentoo-user] About kmail

2003-07-14 Thread Juan ngel
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Thank you very much,
it says basically the same as in the kmail official webpage, but i solved the 
problem looking at the script it provides to start gpg-agent. Now it works.
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Re: [gentoo-user] backup ntfs volume from gentoo boot cd

2003-07-14 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
would it not be easyer to use norton ghost? I use this for my Windows servers.
Boot from that Cd and create the ghost file, restore just the same way.

Patrick

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:21:43 +0100
Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to create a simple disaster recovery solution for a server, but 
 before I started I wanted to check the theory.
 
 The server uses a set of 2 SCSI disks (36GB each) mirrored using hardware 
 RAID-1.  There are two partitions, the system C and data D.
 
 If I boot the system using a gentoo cd, load the correct scsi module can I 
 just
 
 cat /dev/sda1  /dev/backup
 
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[gentoo-user] apache2 and mailman

2003-07-14 Thread Shane Hickey
Well, I decided to go for it and migrate to apache2.  Things are, for
the most part, looking good.  I didn't read closely enough about
mod_perl, though, so I just decided to do without it for now.  I was
only using it to speedup MRTG anyway.

But, I can't seem to get mailman to work.  Has anyone had any luck in
this regard?  I copied the config lines from
/etc/apache/conf/addon-modules/mailman.conf to my
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf and restarted apache2.  Now I can view my
admin CGIs by doing www.sitename.com/mailman/admin/listname.  But,
mailman says that my list doesn't exist.  When I su to the mailman user
and do a './bin/list_lists' it shows that they are still there.  

What am I missing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] X Screen

2003-07-14 Thread Andrew Farmer
At 14 July, 2003 John Lowell wrote:
 One very positive aspect of using Gentoo in my opinion is that, when
 initiating X, one sees a black background with a white mouse X rather
 than the traditional gray, cross-hatched backround with a black X. Am
 I right to to assume that some entry in /etc/X11/Sessions/Xsession is
 responsible for the black background or is some other file involved?
 How is this result achieved, anyway?

I believe the black background is actually the result of an X patch -
I'm not at my Gentoo machine right now, but I think the name is
something like stupid-*-die-die-die.patch.

Heh. That's why I happened to notice it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 and mailman

2003-07-14 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
I wouldn't recommend using the mailman port (it is still masked, right?).
Mailman upgrades become very problematic as the build process will upgrade
mailing lists for you, and that can not be done in the sandbox.  The result
will be that many things are built as if it were a new installation and
installing over the top of your current one would result in something less
than good.  It is better to build mailman yourself in /usr/local (or
whereever) and maintain it yourself.  It really isn't too hard to do.

Tom Veldhouse

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Subject: [gentoo-user] apache2 and mailman


 Well, I decided to go for it and migrate to apache2.  Things are, for
 the most part, looking good.  I didn't read closely enough about
 mod_perl, though, so I just decided to do without it for now.  I was
 only using it to speedup MRTG anyway.

 But, I can't seem to get mailman to work.  Has anyone had any luck in
 this regard?  I copied the config lines from
 /etc/apache/conf/addon-modules/mailman.conf to my
 /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and restarted apache2.  Now I can view my
 admin CGIs by doing www.sitename.com/mailman/admin/listname.  But,
 mailman says that my list doesn't exist.  When I su to the mailman user
 and do a './bin/list_lists' it shows that they are still there.

 What am I missing?

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[gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Dmitry Suzdalev
Hello!
I had just emerged latest stable baselayout-1.8.6.8-r1, did etc-update, 
carefully updated all 23 files and rebooted.

And I received a whole bunch of errors. Please, someone help. Here they are:

During boot:

* Calculating module dependencies
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/hd/cd
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/host0/cd
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/cd
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/generic
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/input

[ I have a CD-RW as a primary slave, I have option hdb=ide-scsi passed to 
kernel at boot. All worked great till now. And I have no idea what is 
/dev/input...]

SNIP

* Setting system clock to hwclock [LocalTime]
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc

SNIP
INIT: Entering runlevel 3
* Couldn't get dependency info for consoletrans!
[repeated 4 times]
*ERROR: consoletrans doesn't have a start function

*Starting lircd...
modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/lircd
END

Suggestions? Fixes? 
Any help is *very* appresiated.

I'm running vanilla-sources-2.4.20.
And had no problem until I emerged new baselayout.

Thanks in advance, guys.

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RE: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Rex Young
Hello!
I had just emerged latest stable baselayout-1.8.6.8-r1, did 
etc-update, 
carefully updated all 23 files and rebooted.

And I received a whole bunch of errors. Please, someone help. 
Here they are:

During boot:

* Calculating module dependencies
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/hd/cd
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/host0/cd
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/cd
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/generic
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/input

Not really a help, but I did the same thing with the same result.  They
don't seem
to hinder operation of the box at all, though, so I was going to be patient
and see
if updating baselayout in a day or two fixes things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Alan
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 08:59:10PM +0400, Dmitry Suzdalev wrote:
 Hello!
 I had just emerged latest stable baselayout-1.8.6.8-r1, did etc-update, 
 carefully updated all 23 files and rebooted.
 
 And I received a whole bunch of errors. Please, someone help. Here they are:
 
 During boot:
 
 * Calculating module dependencies
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/hd/cd
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/host0/cd
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/cd
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/generic
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/input
 
 [ I have a CD-RW as a primary slave, I have option hdb=ide-scsi passed to 
 kernel at boot. All worked great till now. And I have no idea what is 
 /dev/input...]
 
 SNIP
 
 * Setting system clock to hwclock [LocalTime]
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/rtc
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/misc/rtc
 
 SNIP
 INIT: Entering runlevel 3
 * Couldn't get dependency info for consoletrans!
 [repeated 4 times]
 *ERROR: consoletrans doesn't have a start function
 
 *Starting lircd...
   modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/lircd
 END
 
 Suggestions? Fixes? 
 Any help is *very* appresiated.
 
 I'm running vanilla-sources-2.4.20.
 And had no problem until I emerged new baselayout.

Sounds like your modules aren't being loaded on boot properly.  Make
sure that /etc/modules.autoload had the right modules in it (IE: rtc 
and ide-scsi based on the errors above) and if it does, try to load them
manually with modprobe rtc.  If you get errors from that you may need
to rebuild your kernel modules with cd /usr/src/linux ; make modules
modules_install (assuming that /usr/src/linux points to the current
kernel directory).  Either that or /etc/init.d/modules isn't being run
on start for some reason... are all the other services on the box being
started correctly?

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 and mailman

2003-07-14 Thread Shane Hickey
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:55:36 -0500
Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The result will be that many things are built as if it were
 a new installation and installing over the top of your current one
 would result in something less than good. 

Hmm... I don't believe that's what I'm seeing right now.  My lists are
still there and my members still exist.  Could you be more specific as
to what might have gotten overwritten?  I'm past the point of no return
now, so I just need to fix this.

 It is better to build mailman yourself in /usr/local (or
 whereever) and maintain it yourself.  It really isn't too hard to do.

I agree that it isn't hard to do, but I figured it might help the devs
out if people were actually using and testing the ebuild.  I'm probably
not the best candidate for that position, though.  ;)  Anyway, does
anyone have any ideas as to what might be borked?  My mailman aliases
are still in place, the cgis run but don't see my lists.  The lists
exist, though, according to everything I can run in /var/mailman/bin

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Re: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Phil Barnett
On Monday 14 July 2003 1:08 pm, Alan wrote:

 Sounds like your modules aren't being loaded on boot properly.  Make
 sure that /etc/modules.autoload had the right modules in it (IE: rtc
 and ide-scsi based on the errors above) and if it does, try to load them
 manually with modprobe rtc.  If you get errors from that you may need
 to rebuild your kernel modules with cd /usr/src/linux ; make modules
 modules_install (assuming that /usr/src/linux points to the current
 kernel directory).  Either that or /etc/init.d/modules isn't being run
 on start for some reason... are all the other services on the box being
 started correctly?

I did see over the weekend that if I emerge alsa, it wipes out my kernel 
modules and I have to rebuild them with the step mentioned above.

Ugly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X Screen

2003-07-14 Thread johnlowell
Andrew Farmer wrote:

I believe the black background is actually the result of an X patch -
I'm not at my Gentoo machine right now, but I think the name is
something like stupid-*-die-die-die.patch.
Heh. That's why I happened to notice it.

 

Thanks for your reply, Andrew. Would it be too much to ask that you 
confirm that for me when you when you get to your Gentoo box?

Thanks again.

John Lowell

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Re: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Renat Golubchyk
Hi!

On Monday 14 July 2003 18:59, Dmitry Suzdalev wrote:
 Hello!
 I had just emerged latest stable baselayout-1.8.6.8-r1, did etc-update,
 carefully updated all 23 files and rebooted.

 And I received a whole bunch of errors. Please, someone help. Here they
 are:

snip

 Suggestions? Fixes?
 Any help is *very* appresiated.

I get similar error messages on startup. I believe I've seen a discussion on 
this in the forums. The error was found to be caused by the updated devfsd. I 
think devfsd was patched to send more messages to syslog. I don't know if it 
is caused by it, but the error messages appear to be related.

Check /usr/portage/sys-apps/devfsd/ChangeLog and bug #17319:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17319


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Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron anyone?

2003-07-14 Thread Daniel Robbins
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:22:06PM +0200, Terje Kvernes wrote:
   ordered a dual 1.8Ghz Opteron to do numbercrunching.  we've also
   bought a dual 3.06Ghz P4 Xeon with HyperThreading to compare it
   with, but there is very little doubt that the Opteron will come out
   first.

I wouldn't make that assumption. I could very easily see the dual Xeon
outperforming the dual Opteron -- make sure to test the specific application
first. In fact, I would wager that the dual Xeon will outperform the Opteron
in most situations, based on my experience. The Opteron 240 seems to be
performing somewhere between an XP 2000+ and XP 2200+; not even up to Athlon
MP levels yet -- based on my testing, which is by no means exhaustive. And
hyperthreading can make a very significant difference for many types of
loads, too.

Be sure to benchmark what you are actually going to be using the machine
for. A lot of us work under the assumption that 64-bit is faster, and
that's not necessarily true.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Dmitry Suzdalev
Thanks Alan, Rex for your answers...

On Monday 14 July 2003 21:08, Alan wrote:
 Sounds like your modules aren't being loaded on boot properly.  Make
 sure that /etc/modules.autoload had the right modules in it (IE: rtc
 and ide-scsi based on the errors above) and if it does, try to load them
 manually with modprobe rtc.  If you get errors from that you may need
 to rebuild your kernel modules with cd /usr/src/linux ; make modules
 modules_install (assuming that /usr/src/linux points to the current
 kernel directory).  Either that or /etc/init.d/modules isn't being run
 on start for some reason... are all the other services on the box being
 started correctly?

Yes, all other thingies are running nicely :). I mentioned only those which 
reported errors...
I edited /etc/modules.d/i386 and commented out the line:
alias char-major-10-135 rtc 
May be this line caused problems? I haven't compiled in /dev/rtc support in 
kernel, IIRC.
Now I'll go on and reboot and tell you how it will react.

On Monday 14 July 2003 21:08, Rex Young wrote:
 Not really a help, but I did the same thing with the same result.  They
 don't seem
 to hinder operation of the box at all, though, so I was going to be patient
 and see
 if updating baselayout in a day or two fixes things.

We'll hope :). 
I must say that my box works great too. But still, I don' want to see those 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Dmitry Suzdalev
On Monday 14 July 2003 21:26, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
 Check /usr/portage/sys-apps/devfsd/ChangeLog and bug #17319:
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17319

Thanks, I'll give it a look.

Btw, commenting out rtc's alias didn't help -- same errors appear.
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[gentoo-user] xinerama on a dualhead (ati radeon)

2003-07-14 Thread daniel
i've seen this question asked before both in the forums and on this list, but 
after going through all the answers i found, it still isn't working, and so i 
post:

i have a celery box here running an ati radeon (/proc/pci says its an: ATI 
Technologies Inc Radeon VE QY).  the thing is dual-headed, (one svga, one 
lcd) and a (former) coworker had it working in windows xp, so i know what i 
want is possible.  all i want is the typical dual-monitor setup.  drag mouse 
from one screen onto the next (xinearama is what i want right?)

but here's the problem:  from the start of this whole thing (ie. when i 
started the gentoo install) the both displays have been active as a clone of 
each other.  ie, what you see on one screen is exactly the same as on the 
other).  i figured that this would go away once i installed x with xinerama, 
but instead, i just get two identical x windows.  move the mouse in one, and 
the mose moves in both.  any enlightenment would be helpful.  here's a copy 
of my x config:

(~) # cat /etc/X11/XF86Config

Section ServerLayout
Identifier  XFree86 Configured
Screen  Screen0
Screen  Screen1 RightOf Screen0
InputDevice Mouse0 CorePointer
InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
Option  Xinerama true
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  extmod
Load  dri
Load  dbe
Load  record
Load  xtrap
Load  glx
Load  speedo
Load  type1
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/mouse
EndSection


Section Monitor

Identifier  Monitor0
VendorName  DEL
ModelName   DELL E772c

HorizSync   30-170
VertRefresh 50-160

#   Option  DPMS

EndSection


Section Monitor

Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   LG
ModelNameStudioworks 775N

HorizSync   30-70
VertRefresh 50-160

EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  ati
VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName   Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
BusID   PCI:1:5:0
Option  AGPMode   4
Option  AGPFastWrite  true
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Card1
Driver  ati
VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName   Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
BusID   PCI:1:5:0
Option  AGPMode   4
Option  AGPFastWrite  true
EndSection


# this is the onboard video card.  the X config detected it, so i left it in
# here, but it's not being used for anything and isn't included in any
# layouts.

Section Device
Identifier  Card2
Driver  i810
VendorName  Intel Corp.
BoardName   82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset Integrated Graphics 
Device
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen0
Device  Card0
Monitor Monitor0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1024x768
Viewport0 0
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen1
Device  Card1
Monitor Monitor1
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   1024x768
Viewport0 0
EndSubSection
EndSection




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[gentoo-user] stage3 tarball for a celeron

2003-07-14 Thread RVick



I am lookging for
a 
stage3 taball for my celeron, but am uncertain as to which one to grab. 
Below is a snippet from dmesg, can anyone tell which tarball I should get with
the information below?

PIIX4: IDE 
controller at PCI slot 00:14.1PIIX4: chipset revision
1
CPU: L1 I cache: 
16K, L1 D cache: 16KCPU: L2 cache: 128KCPU: 
After generic, caps: 0183f9ff   
CPU:
Common caps: 0183f9ff   CPU: Intel Celeron 
(Mendocino) stepping 00

Thanks-Ryan

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove packages from packet management

2003-07-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Florian Huber wrote:
Hello ML,
is there an official method of removing a certain packet from the
packet management system, i.e. unmerge a package, but don't delete
the files.
ATM I just delete its entry in /var/db/pkg.

TIA
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another location and unmerge it.  Portage wasn't really intended for 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???

2003-07-14 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Ahh, I see.  Thank you.  It sounds like the Gnome people are the culprit.  
What a hassle to have to pull in tons of stuff for one app.
Indeed.  I think KDE are superior in that they include fewer larger base 
packages rather than zillions of smaller dependencies like gnome.  Let 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel depends

2003-07-14 Thread Cristiano Paris
 No, this is a bad idea... xconfig assumes you want to run X in
addition to
 tcl/tk.. I cant tell you how many people use gentoo with no X
environment
 (myself included on several production machines) but there are a lot,
and to
 make the kernel depend on having that installed is excessive.  ...
 menuconfig quite happily, as I'm sure most people do:)

Yes, I always use menuconfig to configure my kernels. But I was writing
an howto on how to build a honeypot with UML for people with little
knowledge about kernel configuration/compilation.

For such people xconfig would be a better alternative to menuconfig. So
I tried to replicate each step in the howto and make xconfig ... uh! wish
not found.

I think that if you already have X installed then kernel sources
should depend on TCL/TK... I don't know if this is possible... here we
are talking about conditional dependencies.

think about a newbie in its X favorite environment trying to configure
the kernel... it tries menu xconfig (as stated in many kernel howtos)
and the not-so-user-friendly kernel build scripts complain about not
finding wish.

The user gets confused (which ebuild wish is in? The doesn't suggest
much) and eventually gives up rebuilding the kernel... that's no good
advertisement for Gentoo :-)

As you said, just my two cents...

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Re: [gentoo-user] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stablestatus

2003-07-14 Thread Richard Watson
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 Richard Watson said:
 Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 IMO this kind of upgrade should happen on purpose because someone
 chose to do it, not as the result of emerge -u.

 But emerge -u IS on purpose. 

What I mean is that I want to do major upgrades when I'm ready, not
when the package maintainers decide that I'm ready. I'm only talking
here about upgrades that may break the application concerned which is
not very often. 

I agree that the admin is responsible, I carefully read every list of
potential upgrades before I commit, but I think it would be a good
safety measure to not allow things to upgrade where potential
breakages might occur. That seems to me to be allowing portage to make
life a little easier for the admin. 

 Nobody just has that in their cron to run every night. (At least I
 HOPE nobody does)

Quite.

 Shouldn't it be the admin's responsibility to make sure he/she knows
 what packages are being upgraded BEFORE the upgrade? Why must
 portage save them from themselves?

I'm not suggesting this. What I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense
to unnecessary upgrades which may break something the default action. 

 BTW, there is a simple and well publicized way to avoid this problem.
 (I've done it on 9 of my 10 gentoo servers) simply populate package.mask
 with the proper info.

Maybe I do the wrong thing but I've been using
/etc/make.profile/packages wherein it says:

# So, what happens to /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask?  It's still around,
# and still useful.  But it should mainly be used for broken ebuilds only.
# package.mask continues to function as normal, masking out ebuilds from *all*
# system profiles.

 Sorry but I disagree with you. Apache 2 is not a different product. It's a
 major version change to Apache. (Same with mysql and PHP)

It applies to different applications to different extents. In the case
of vmware everyone who upgrades will have their installation broken
until they go to purchase a licence. They are clearly therefore
different products since they are not covered by the same license. 

I think it all boils down to whether you think that checking through
lists of packages is reliable enough and how much portage should help
the admin. I think most professional admins will know about many
upgrades before they arrive enough to know whether they want them or
not and to have prepared accordingly. 

But since we have many duplicated ebuilds - (e.g. gaim and gaim-cvs,
mozilla-firebird, mozilla-firebird-cvs) to make life convenient for
those who want to stay on the cutting edge, could a little
reorganisation not make it more convenient for those of us who don't?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bunch of Gnome junk to be added in world upgrade!???

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, fewer but large as you said.   xfce is my choice!


 Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
  Ahh, I see.  Thank you.  It sounds like the Gnome people are the culprit.
  What a hassle to have to pull in tons of stuff for one app.

 Indeed.  I think KDE are superior in that they include fewer larger base
 packages rather than zillions of smaller dependencies like gnome.  Let
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[gentoo-user] ReiserFS said to repaired but isn't :-(

2003-07-14 Thread Heribert Slama
Currently the file system check during startup (/etc/init.d/checkfs
+checkroot) _always_ runs reiserfsck against the root (/) file
system.

The check finds an error in the (free/used space) bitmap, which
should be fixable. But the program says:
--fix-fixable ignored
so nothing gets fixed. Nonetheless checkfs/checkroot says
* File system repaired:-

I had tried reiserfsck earlier from the command line and didn't
succed either (see below, items 3ff).

***

How it all began...

1) While I ran an 
emerge -uD system | tee logfile
after an rsync, the speaker started to beep continuously. I panicked
(CPU overheated?) and cut the power.

2) On the next boot, reiserfsck considered the filesystem as clean!
But the last 30 lines of logfile were wrong data!

3) Now I wanted to run the file system check manually. I forced the
system to single-user mode by telinit 1 (maybe not the correct
way), re-mounted / read-only and ran
reiserfsck --check /dev/hda8
This reported 2 fixable errors in the bitmap.
Note: --check would refuse to run on the writeable reiserfs.

4) Next command:
reiserfsck --fix-fixable /dev/hda8
--fix-fixable rejected for a read-only reiserfs (of course;-)
Re-mounted /dev/hda8 r/w, re-issued above command...
Cannot run check on a file system with write permission.
Termination!
FYI: reiserfsck is quite current (3.6.8), reiserfs is v3.6.25
(vanilla-kernel 2.4.19), installed 10 months ago.
Note: I'm writing this under Windows; all data come from memory;-)

5) But reiserfsck must have turned some kind of unclean bit on (in
the superblock?), triggering a complete check at each startup.

== What must I do to make reiserfsck _repair_ the file system?

(Just occured to me: since this is the root file system, could it be
necessary to free (unmount) all mount points?)

Best regards,
-Heribert

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[gentoo-user] transcode - divx problem

2003-07-14 Thread Bryce
Hey all, trying to use transcodw with DVD::RIP, and having an issue:

Copied by hand cause dvd::rip doesn't deal with the clipboard :( :

transcode v.0.6.8 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Ostreich
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.7 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
libdvdread: Can't open file VIEDO_TS.IFO.
[import_vob.so] v0.5.8 (2003-06-11) (video) MPEG-2 | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM | 
(subtitle)
[export_ogg.so] v0.0.3 (2003-03-06) (video) null | (audio) ogg
[export_divx5.so] v0.1.7 (2003-06-12) (video) Divx5.xx | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM
[export_divx5.so] libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory

SO, has anyone else had this problem?? And should this be forwarded on to 
bugs.gentoo.org?

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] ReiserFS said to repaired but isn't :-(

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
You may need to unmount the system to do the repair.


 Currently the file system check during startup (/etc/init.d/checkfs
 +checkroot) _always_ runs reiserfsck against the root (/) file
 system.

 The check finds an error in the (free/used space) bitmap, which
 should be fixable. But the program says:
   --fix-fixable ignored
 so nothing gets fixed. Nonetheless checkfs/checkroot says
   * File system repaired:-

 I had tried reiserfsck earlier from the command line and didn't
 succed either (see below, items 3ff).

 (Just occured to me: since this is the root file system, could it be
 necessary to free (unmount) all mount points?)

 Best regards,
   -Heribert

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[gentoo-user] [OT?] Weird CVSUMASK problem

2003-07-14 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
   I'm trying to setup a CVS server with ssh access and I'm facing a 
strange problem. I want to have several projects in my repository and 
control the access to those projects using group permissions (as 
explained in CVS documentation). I want to deny access to any user that 
doesn't belong to the group that owns the files of a certain project 
inside the repository, so I want to give no permissions for others.

   The problem comes when trying to do this. I put CVSUMASK=007 in a 
file in /etc/env.d/, run env-update, and add a directory to the 
repository. The new directory is created with rwxrwsr-x permissions (I 
guess taken from umask and the permissions from parent directory, that 
is rwxrws---) ignoring the CVSUMASK variable. If I put the definition of 
the variable in .bashrc with export CVSUMASK=007, then the directory is 
created with the right permissions (rwxrws---). In the tow cases, if I 
login (through ssh) with the user I'm creating the directory, and 
execute echo $CVSUMASK, I obtain the same result: 007.

   I'm really puzzled about this, and would really appreciate if 
somebody could explain me why this is happening, as I don't want to have 
to include the export CVSUMASK=007 in every .bashrc of every user with 
CVS access.

   Regards
   Jose
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[gentoo-user] Error compiling and using GTK+2, but awfully fixed.

2003-07-14 Thread Javier Villavicencio
Hi ppl. this is the error i get compiling gtk+2.2.2-r1

make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.2.2-r1/work/gtk+-2.2.2/demos/gtk-demo'
make[3]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.2.2-r1/work/gtk+-2.2.2/demos'
(topdir=`cd ..  pwd` ; curdir=`pwd` ; \
  cd . \
  GDK_PIXBUF_MODULE_FILE=$topdir/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.loaders 
$topdir/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-csource --build-list \
apple_red apple-red.png gnome_foot gnome-foot.png 
$curdir/test-inline-pixbufs.h || (rm -f $curdir/test-inline-pixbufs.h  false))
failed to load apple-red.png: Failed to load image 'apple-red.png': Unsupported TGA 
image type
make[3]: *** [test-inline-pixbufs.h] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.2.2-r1/work/gtk+-2.2.2/demos'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.2.2-r1/work/gtk+-2.2.2/demos'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.2.2-r1/work/gtk+-2.2.2'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 76, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

As I searched and debugged,  I've found the fix, but not the reason:
there is a config file in /etc/gtk-2.0 named gdk-pixbuf.loaders, and this file 
contains the header and magic data to recognize a image file type. When 
compiling, this file is obviously not used, but a sample of it is used during 
compilation.
So the fix is, if I change this file before this test reaches during the 
compilation, the compilation goes on, and all work fine, but what I've did, I'm not 
proud of it :+)

I changed the magic/header data between png and tga:
from:
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so
png 1 gtk20 The PNG image format
image/png 
png 
\211PNG\r\n\032\n  100

to:
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.2.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so
tga 0 gtk20 The Targa image format
image/x-tga 
tga targa 
 \001\001 x   100
 \001\t x   100
  \002 xz  99
  \003 xz  100
  \n xz  100
  \013 xz  100

After doing that in both the /etc config file, and the sample during the compilation, 
the build goes on, and work, but as you can see, the png format is recognized as a TGA 
header, and if you look into a .png file and a .tga image, you will see the BIG 
difference between headers.
I also had this same problem in debian, but I didn't discovered it, just an upgrade (I 
was using unstable) fixed it.

Somebody else with the same error and a good reason for that

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Re: [gentoo-user] opera 7.11 and flash

2003-07-14 Thread Steven
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My first guess is that you need to figure out where to make the symlink to the
plugin for flash in one of Opera's directories.

You might try emerging netscape-flash over again, this symlinking is done
after that emerge finishes automatically as best as I can tell.

On Tuesday 08 July 2003 23:21, Gëzim wrote:
 Hello guys,
 I just merged (silly me, was gonna say installed)
 opera 7.11, but my flash doesn't work.
 Can anyone help?

 Thank you in advance,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!

2003-07-14 Thread Dmitry Suzdalev
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 00:05, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
 Have you got all ide, scsi and enhanced RTC compiled into kernel?

Not sure about RTC, but all my current settings worked quite well before 
update. IDE  SCSI support is compiled in -- I was able to write cd's w/o 
any problems.


  SNIP
  INIT: Entering runlevel 3
  * Couldn't get dependency info for consoletrans!
  [repeated 4 times]
  *ERROR: consoletrans doesn't have a start function

 The new baselayout has better error checking and dependency checking so
 will be more verbose in cases where previous one would have said
 nothing.  So either report bugs about the init scripts that appear in
 errors or wait for a fix.

Thanks for explanation   suggestion :).


  *Starting lircd...
  modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/lircd

 Once again, at first sight it seems the kernel support is missing.  Did
 you get the classic xargs: environment too large for exec error on boot?

And once again, it worked with old baselayout, I have support for btXXX 
chipset support enabled in kernel and lircd part is built as modules.
And, yes, I have that xargs problem, but I recall seeing discussion about it 
on this list and decided to dig in archives later -- after I get rid of these 
modprobe errors.

And thanks for reply. You've been helpful as always, Dhruba :).

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Re: [gentoo-user] **HEADS UP** Apache2 + MySQL4 moving to stablestatus

2003-07-14 Thread Owen Gunden
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 08:47:16PM +0100, Richard Watson wrote:
  Richard Watson said:
  Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  But emerge -u IS on purpose. 
 
 What I mean is that I want to do major upgrades when I'm ready, not
 when the package maintainers decide that I'm ready.  

The package maintainers do not decide when you're ready to type emerge -u
world.

 I agree that the admin is responsible, I carefully read every list of
 potential upgrades before I commit, but I think it would be a good
 safety measure to not allow things to upgrade where potential
 breakages might occur. That seems to me to be allowing portage to make
 life a little easier for the admin. 

emerge -u world *always* introduces potential for breakage.  emergers
beware!

  Shouldn't it be the admin's responsibility to make sure he/she knows
  what packages are being upgraded BEFORE the upgrade? Why must
  portage save them from themselves?
 
 I'm not suggesting this. What I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense
 to unnecessary upgrades which may break something the default action. 

I don't see the difference between upgrading apache and upgrading, say,
baselayout, portage, X, or anything else for that matter.  They all might
break something..

  Sorry but I disagree with you. Apache 2 is not a different product. It's a
  major version change to Apache. (Same with mysql and PHP)
 
 It applies to different applications to different extents. In the case
 of vmware everyone who upgrades will have their installation broken
 until they go to purchase a licence. They are clearly therefore
 different products since they are not covered by the same license. 

Yes, you're right about vmware, but I'm with Matthias about apache.  Gentoo
wants to say we suggest apache 2 for the general case.  

 I think it all boils down to whether you think that checking through
 lists of packages is reliable enough and how much portage should help
 the admin. I think most professional admins will know about many
 upgrades before they arrive enough to know whether they want them or
 not and to have prepared accordingly. 

The sysadmin who is watching his server carefully will certainly be
checking through his lists of packages before he upgrades, and for the
forseeable future he should definitely be expected to do so.  The
less-concerned user who runs the gentoo-recommended version of things
should get apache2 when the gentoo devs decide it's a good general time to
upgrade. 

To me, the issue is that emerge apache should emerge the version of
apache that gentoo recommends, not an old compatibility version.  

 But since we have many duplicated ebuilds - (e.g. gaim and gaim-cvs,
 mozilla-firebird, mozilla-firebird-cvs) to make life convenient for
 those who want to stay on the cutting edge, could a little
 reorganisation not make it more convenient for those of us who don't?

It looks to me that Gentoo is trying to understand the exact roles of and
relationships between USE flags, package versions, and arch KEYWORDS.  It's
going to take time, but hopefully when it's all figured out we'll have
reached some nice intuitive definition which makes it very clear how to
get the safety you're asking for.  Bear with the devs while this gets
worked out.

Cheers,
Owen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error compiling and using GTK+2, but awfullyfixed.

2003-07-14 Thread Javier Villavicencio
By the way, I have already re-emerged the dependencies of gtk+ (emerge -uo gtk+) and 
the dependencies of libpng, and the other image handling related libraries and their 
dependencies.
There are my USE flags, such if somebody asks:

USE=acpi aavm apache2 cdr dvd dga directfb fbcon gd gtk2 lirc maildir matrox mysql 
usb \
 samba sse mmx imlib tiff gif jpeg png truetype oggvorbis ssl zlib opengl 
offensive \
 -3dnow -arts -qt -cups -kde -gnome -motif -spell -svga

And my CFLAGS (I already tryed without these, just -O2 -march=pentium3, and yes, I 
have a P3)

CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O2 -mmmx -msse -mfpmath=sse -maccumulate-outgoing-args 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -finline-limit=2000
 -falign-functions=4 -fprefetch-loop-arrays -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe

They are from the WOLK kernel compilation if somebody wants to know.
I'm using the ~x86 of GCC, GLIBC, and Binutils (and yes, I tryed with the stable 
versions,
I have this little problem long ago, but as I see that 2.2.2 went stable, so I'm 
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[gentoo-user] iptables trouble

2003-07-14 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
  I'm using the Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and iptables 1.2.8-r1.

  When I use iptables -L I get

bash-2.05b# iptables -L
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o
failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
insmod ip_tables failed
iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who?
(do you need to insmod?)
Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

  Any idea what's wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables trouble

2003-07-14 Thread donnie berkholz
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On Monday 14 July 2003 16:29, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
   I'm using the Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and iptables 1.2.8-r1.

   When I use iptables -L I get

 bash-2.05b# iptables -L
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
 unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
 unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
 insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o
 failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
 insmod ip_tables failed
 iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who?
 (do you need to insmod?)
 Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

   Any idea what's wrong?

Have you emerged iptables since last time you recompiled your kernel? If not, 
try that. Also double-check your kernel config to make sure it's correct. If 
all else fails, save your .config, make mrproper, rm -rf 
/lib/modules/thatkernel, and rebuild.

Take the last suggestion with a grain of salt, as it's somewhat of a blackbox 
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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 tarball for a celeron

2003-07-14 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi RVick,

Nachricht vom Montag, 14. Juli 2003, 20:29:42:

 I am lookging for a stage3 taball for my celeron, but am uncertain
 as to which one to grab.  Below is a snippet from dmesg, can anyone
 tell which tarball I should get with the information below?
 
 CPU: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 00

Have a look at the stages in:
ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc4/x86/x86/stages/
of the last official release 1.4rc4. It doesn't really matter which
version you have when you install from stage 1. Since you seem not to
like that, you should take the best fitting actual version, which is
the generic (i guess its i386 or even i586, but that wouldn't matter)
stage3 for you. Since you son't want to recompile, i would strongly
vote against taking the older i686-optimized-stage3 from 1.4_rc2 (that
was AFAIK the last rc where they build all stages). I would choose a
stage1-install. 

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables trouble

2003-07-14 Thread Prabhat Gupta
I had the same problem.

Did you emerged iptables??



Sebastian Bergmann wrote:

 I'm using the Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r5 kernel and iptables 1.2.8-r1.

 When I use iptables -L I get

bash-2.05b# iptables -L
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o
failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o:
insmod ip_tables failed
iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who?
(do you need to insmod?)
Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
 Any idea what's wrong?

 

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 tarball for a celeron

2003-07-14 Thread Ted Goodridge, Jr
A celeron is a Pentium with less cache.  If it is a p4 celeron, you can use 
the p4 CFLAGS for gcc.  If it is a p3 celeron, you use the p3 flags.  Same 
goes for optimized stages.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Problems - Reboot on Load

2003-07-14 Thread Prabhat Gupta




put 

vga=ask 

in grub configuration.

Loopingz wrote:
  
  
 
  
 

  I'm a newbie on Gentoo, i've made the
installation  from stage 1, compile everything and when i reboot the system,
i see Grub then  when i choose to load the linux, it seems to load the kernel,
but the screen go  black and after 2 seconds the system is rebooting. I think
it's a kernel  compilation problem but i don't know the solution.
 
  
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] transcode - divx problem

2003-07-14 Thread Prabhat Gupta
rebuild the dependencies for transcode

Bryce wrote:

Hey all, trying to use transcodw with DVD::RIP, and having an issue:

Copied by hand cause dvd::rip doesn't deal with the clipboard :( :

transcode v.0.6.8 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Ostreich
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.7 for DVD access
libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
libdvdread: Can't open file VIEDO_TS.IFO.
[import_vob.so] v0.5.8 (2003-06-11) (video) MPEG-2 | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM | 
(subtitle)
[export_ogg.so] v0.0.3 (2003-03-06) (video) null | (audio) ogg
[export_divx5.so] v0.1.7 (2003-06-12) (video) Divx5.xx | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM
[export_divx5.so] libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No 
such file or directory

SO, has anyone else had this problem?? And should this be forwarded on to 
bugs.gentoo.org?

thanks,
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[gentoo-user] portage upgrade - xine-lib problems

2003-07-14 Thread Mikhail P.
Hello,

I'm currently upgrading system, and found this really annoying problem about 
xine-lib:

(after emerge sync):

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/xine-lib-0.9.13-r3
[ebuildU ] net-www/mozilla-1.4 [1.3-r2]
[ebuildU ] net-mail/mailbase-0.00-r5 [0.00-r4]
[ebuildU ] net-mail/exim-4.14 [4.12]
[ebuildU ] net-misc/d4x-2.4.1-r1 [2.03]
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta12
[ ... snip ...]

As you can see portage tries to install media-libs/xine-lib-0.9.13-r3 first, 
but then it will install media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta12. However, this does not 
work well when it comes to media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta12, after emerging d4x:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp # emerge -uUD world
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 emerge (6 of 30) media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta12 to /
 md5 src_uri ;-) xine-lib-1-beta12.tar.gz
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking xine-lib-1-beta12.tar.gz to 
/var/tmp/portage/xine-lib-1_beta12/work
 Source unpacked.
 * Please uninstall older xine libraries.
 * The compilation cannot proceed.

!!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta12 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 55, Exitcode 0
!!! (no error message)

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anyone came accross the same problem?

regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 tarball for a celeron

2003-07-14 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Ted,

Nachricht vom Montag, 14. Juli 2003, 23:50:54:

 A celeron is a Pentium with less cache. If it is a p4 celeron, you
 can use the p4 CFLAGS for gcc. If it is a p3 celeron, you use the
 p3 flags. Same goes for optimized stages.

If you have a look at
http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html
you see that the Mendocino that the original poster was saying to
have, is a pentium2 (celeron1), so it gets P2-flags.

 Timo

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage upgrade - xine-lib problems

2003-07-14 Thread Spider
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:05:20 +
Mikhail P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  * Please uninstall older xine libraries.
  * The compilation cannot proceed.
 
 !!! ERROR: media-libs/xine-lib-1_beta12 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 55, Exitcode 0
 !!! (no error message)
 
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 anyone came accross the same problem?

emerge -C xine-lib; emerge xine-lib



however it might be that you have a package that depend on the old xine
libraries, in case it will ask you to install that when you do emerge
-up world again.

This is because Xine seems to be inherently broken in how it changes the
interface towards other packages (might also be that it is alpha and
beta software that people insist on building and using applications
for..)


//Spider


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[gentoo-user] Re: ReiserFS said to repaired but isn't :-(

2003-07-14 Thread Heribert Slama
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:11:28 -0400, in gmane.linux.gentoo.user,
Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You may need to unmount the system to do the repair.

Would that mean to start from a different Linux, e.g. from the
LiveCD? (Because it's the root file system; when unmounted, no more
programs)

Best regards,
-Heribert

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Re: [gentoo-user] [DEBATE] Gentoo on laptops

2003-07-14 Thread Rasmus Wiman
Fredrik Jagenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:

 ACPI also gives me access to throttling and performance stepping. And
 atleast performance stepping is crucial to squeeze a few extra hours
 out of that battery. Throttling doesn't do that much though, just
 makes the machine slower. ;)

I have experienced quite some problems with ACPI om my ASUS L8400. I
think the root of the problem has with heat to do, it behaves really
wierd when the CPU load is high and the CPU becomes hot. The temperature
thresholds change repeatedly, all of a sudden lm_sensors say the alloed
interval is between 0 and -99, and the temperature is 0, which makes the
fan shutdown. Then it might throttle down to cool down, all of a sudden
the temperature scale has changed anew and the temperature alarm goes
off. Sometimes this starts the fan, sometimes it shuts down.

With APM enabled I only notice jerky performance, the whole system
appears to freeze every now and then, but it doesn't shut down, the
sensor values remain sensible and the fan runs all the time as long as
the machine is hot. The drawback is that the clock drags severely during
things like huge emerges and such.


/Rasmus Wiman

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ReiserFS said to repaired but isn't :-(

2003-07-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yes, it would.  You would need the LiveCD or another partition that can be 
booted.

 On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:11:28 -0400, in gmane.linux.gentoo.user,

 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You may need to unmount the system to do the repair.

 Would that mean to start from a different Linux, e.g. from the
 LiveCD? (Because it's the root file system; when unmounted, no more
 programs)

 Best regards,
   -Heribert

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Re: [gentoo-user] transcode - divx problem

2003-07-14 Thread Bryce
I have rebuilt all the dependencies for transcode, and the problem still 
exists. Just a side note, this problem only occurs when one chooses divx, not 
ffmpeg or anything like that.

Is this a bug with the divx4linux ebuild?

bryce

On Monday 14 July 2003 09:41 pm, Prabhat Gupta wrote:
 rebuild the dependencies for transcode

 Bryce wrote:
 Hey all, trying to use transcodw with DVD::RIP, and having an issue:
 
 Copied by hand cause dvd::rip doesn't deal with the clipboard :( :
 
 transcode v.0.6.8 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Ostreich
 libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.7 for DVD access
 libdvdread: Couldn't find device name.
 libdvdread: Can't open file VIEDO_TS.IFO.
 [import_vob.so] v0.5.8 (2003-06-11) (video) MPEG-2 | (audio) MPEG/AC3/PCM
  | (subtitle)
 [export_ogg.so] v0.0.3 (2003-03-06) (video) null | (audio) ogg
 [export_divx5.so] v0.1.7 (2003-06-12) (video) Divx5.xx | (audio)
  MPEG/AC3/PCM [export_divx5.so] libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 SO, has anyone else had this problem?? And should this be forwarded on to
 bugs.gentoo.org?
 
 thanks,
 bryce
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] creative webcam

2003-07-14 Thread Daz-Manu
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:18:21 +0200
Laurence Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 Has any one got a Creative WebCam Go working on linux. After following 
 the instructions I dont seem to end up with a video device file. I think 
 this is me not looking in the correct place on my devfs.
 Any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 Laurence

  Can you see something about your webcam at boot ?

usb.c: registered new driver ov511
ov511.c: v1.61 for Linux 2.4 : ov511 USB Camera Driver
hub.c: new USB device 00:04.2-2, assigned address 2
ov511.c: USB OV511 video device found
ov511.c: model: Creative Labs WebCam 3
ov511.c: Sensor is an OV7610
ov511.c: Device registered on minor 0

Did you load OV511 driver ?

Does your webcam appear in /proc/bus/usb ? =  Driver=ov511

Did you enable V4L in your kernel ?

Afterwards, try to emerge gnomemeeting and see if your webcam is detected by 
gnomemeeting.

Manu-BE
 
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