[gentoo-user] Re: Mouse Problems...

[Charlie Gehlin]

I would suspect that this might be a power-issue,
especially as you said that HDD's gone offline.
Observe your +12V and +5V voltages from PSU via
lm_sensors or in BIOS to if your values are OK.
Keyboards and mice are powered w. +5V (both PS/2
and USB) so that might be the voltage to focus on.
Regarding the HDD: you might find a spin-up delay
setting in SCSI-BIOS, to prevent all devices being
powered-up all at the same time.

/Charlie

On Wed, February 9, 2005 13:58, Alex Lambert said:
> I am being slowly driven insane by my mouse. When in X.org (GNUStep) I
> am having problems with my mouse losing synchronisation and doing odd
> stuff (randomly moving, selecting, clicking etc). Sometimes (and for
> varying degrees fo time in both fixing and before it becomes
> unfixable) I can fix this by removing the psmouse module and reloading
> it (It is now a mosule to avoid me having to reboot every time it did
> this). I have tried different mice and different kernels (in kernel
> and module), but nothing seems to fix this. I have come to the
> conclusion it's a hardware problem (unless anyone knows of any
> problems with mice doing this in latest portage (~x86) x.org or
> GNUStep).
>
> I have also noticed that sometimes, when I do have to reboot over this
> issue, one of my SCSI harddrives is "Not Ready" (from the Advansys
> "BIOS" screen) and I have to leave it for a while before rebooting
> again. Could this be tied into the problem? If so, I need to remove it
> from my LVM before I can take it out and was looking to see if anyone
> had any other ideas before I bring the house down with my screaming.
>
> Alex


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[Nicolas Bailey]

> 
> Nope. I'm not mistaken:
> 
> "In Ultra quality, we load each texture; diffuse, specular, normal map
> at full resolution with no compression. In a typical DOOM 3 level,
> this can hover around a whopping 500MB of texture data. This will run
> on current hardware but obviously we cannot fit 500MB of texture data
> onto a 256MB card and the amount of texture data referenced in a give
> scene per frame ( 60 times a second ) can easily be 50MB+. This can
> cause some choppiness as a lot of memory bandwidth is being consumed.
> It does however look fantastic :-) and it is certainly playable on
> high end systems but due to the hitching that can occur we chose to
> require a 512MB Video card before setting this automatically."

Still slightly mistaken, I'm afraid.  Re-read that: it requires a 512
MB Video card before it is set /automatically/.  I can definitely run
at Ultra Quality, albeit unplayably choppy.  I've seen a very high-end
system run it with only 256 MB Video.  It was quite playable, but I'd
still set it down to High Quality for the busier areas.

Nick

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[gentoo-user] Qmail: relaying is not working

[Stefan Onken]

Hello,

I am following the Howto at: 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/qmail-howto.xml


1) Access to pop3 accounts is working fine
2) I installed qmail without the need of a TLS auth

mail root # equery uses qmail
[ Found these USE variables for mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r15 ]
 + + ssl : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer 
connections
 - - noauthcram  : If you do NOT want AUTHCRAM to be available
 + + notlsbeforeauth : If you do NOT want to require STARTTLS before 
offering AUTH
 - - selinux : !!internal use only!! Security Enhanced Linux 
support, this must be set by the selinux profile or breakage will 

3) I  changed  /var/qmail/control/conf-smtpd

a) 
QMAIL_TCPSERVER_PRE="${QMAIL_TCPSERVER_PRE} envdir /etc/relay-ctrl 
relay-ctrl-chdir"
QMAIL_SMTP_PRE="${QMAIL_SMTP_PRE} relay-ctrl-check"

b) 
(in 2 lines)
QMAIL_SMTP_AUTHHOST=$(<${QMAIL_CONTROLDIR}/me)
[ -z "${QMAIL_SMTP_POST}" ] && QMAIL_SMTP_POST=/bin/true

one line each:
QMAIL_SMTP_CHECKPASSWORD="/var/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw"
QMAIL_SMTP_POST="${QMAIL_SMTP_AUTHHOST} ${QMAIL_SMTP_CHECKPASSWORD} 
${QMAIL_SMTP_POST}"


for 3a) I added of course "relay-ctrl-check" and added it to 
courier-pop3 and authdaemonrc.

mail root # grep authvchk /etc/courier-imap/authdaemonrc
authmodulelist="authvchkpw relay-ctrl-allow"
authmodulelistorig="authcustom authcram authuserdb authvchkpw 
authmysql authpam"

4) when trying to send an email:

mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts 
(#5.7.1)

any ideas left ?

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail Problems

[Stefan Onken]

Am Donnerstag, 10. Februar 2005 00:20 schrieb Frank Tegtmeyer:

> Increase the memory limits for qmail-smtpd (set by softlimit or
> ulimit). For the ebuild its in /var/qmail/control/conf-common
> (SOFTLIMIT_OPTS).
>
> Regards, Frank

thanks !

I still have another question, but I started a new thread for this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] what is i686-pc-linunx-gnu?

[John Myers]

On Monday 07 February 2005 08:35, Vitaly Ivanov wrote:
> Can I replase pc with server or home_router?
I think you may wany to look at /etc/conf.d/hostname

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Re: [gentoo-user] System Freeze

[Jamie Dobbs]

>
> HI
>
> After About 10 min after Xscreensaver is launched  my system freezes. Does
> anybody had this before?

Yes, re-remerge xscreensaver and make sure you are running the correct
opengl (if your card supports opengl).



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[gentoo-user] System Freeze

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HI
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anybody had this before?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks to all who replied [ was Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice ]

[bluebird_zenith]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 02:16:11AM +, Qian Qiao wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:11:57 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 08:00:23PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 09 February 2005 01:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > G'day All;
> > 
> > >
> > > Joel... depending on what you are upgrading from... your new machine will
> > > probably blow your socks off... As for the sata hardware, I've no 
> > > practical
> > > experience.
> > 
> > Will be picking up the new box on Saturday went to 754 socket as I
> > couldn't find a decently priced 939 socket motherboard, by the time I
> > want to upgrade again the 939 socket will probably be OOD anyway.
> > 
> > I'm upgrading from a Celeron 700 w' 256Mb RAM. last time I installed Gentoo
> > it took approx 4 days (including X, fvwm and teTeX) I think my new
> > box will take somewhat less time :-)
> > 
> 
> You could keep the old box, and run distcc, gonna save you some time.
> 
> Good luck

Thats' what I was planning to do, might even try to set some sort of
diskless openMosix thingo using the old box, if I can get it setup
before I start my new job...

Cheers

Joel

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Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue

[Ian K]

My answers are bold for easy reading.
Thanks again!
Ian

  Hey Holly, sorry about the lack of
information.

I got the error:

Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy

It was repeated twice throughout the dmesg at the times when I did the
modprobes.

I modprobed the following:

(I wont include the .ko or path)

  
  
No, you don't modprobe using the .ko or path anyway, so no need to
include it.
  
  
  snd-mpu401-uart

snd-opl3-synth

snd-opl3-lib

snd-rawmidi

snd-hwdep

snd-seq-instr

snd-seq-midi-emul

snd-ainstr-fm

snd-seq-midi

snd-opl3sa2ÂÂÂ <-That gives me the DMESG error

  
  
  
And what does lsmod say at this point: is the module loaded (meaning
that it is in fact "busy"), or not (meaning that it is in fact "not
found")? Well, true, this is not a strict test, as the module might
have been loaded by the kernel, in which case it does not seem to
appear in an lsmod (annoying as it is), but it is someplace to start.
  

Well, when I go Modprobe snd-opl3sa2 I get this lovely output:
FATAL: Error insetring snd_opl3sa2
(/lib/modules/2.6.10-rc3-love1/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No
such device

(IN DMESG):
Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy.

The other modprobes seem to have survived a restart, and seem to have
loaded. The snd-opl3sa2 is not on the list.
However, I will still put the list in this mail:
ModuleÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ SizeÂÂ ÂÂ Used By
snd_opl3_libÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ 10208Â Â ÂÂ 0
snd-hwdepÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂÂ 9060ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ 1Â snd_opl3_lib
snd_cs4231_libÂÂ ÂÂ  25696ÂÂ ÂÂÂ 0
snd_mpu401_uartÂÂ ÂÂ 7456ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ 0
snd_rawmidiÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ ÂÂ 24288ÂÂ ÂÂ 1Â snd_mpu401_uart


Why are you modprobing these modules manually anyway? Why are they not
being loaded by the kernel, alsasound, or
/etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6?
  

I did this for manual testing before autoloading.

And what precisely is your problem with sound-- does it not work, and
in what respect does it not work? It is quite easy with Gentoo to get
over-involved with errors that do not actually affect one's use of the
machine (fixing "errors" for the sake of fixing errors, rather than
just getting on with what you wanted to do. It's one of the few
"downsides" to Gentoo ;-) ).
  

Well, no program can detect the sound card, and obviously, I cant
hear anything when playing media/music files.

  
My laptop is the ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 445CDX.


I am (trying) using ALSA under KDE 3.3.2


I have ISA support selected in the kernel options, although I dont

know where ISAPNP is located.

  
  
ISA Plug and Play support is located in Device Drivers=>Plug and
Play Support.
  

I found it, and compiled into the kernel, with no effect.

  
I guess thats it for now... Oh yes, inside the sound system of the

control center, (KDE) when you select the hardware tab, what

audio device should i use? Autodetect?

  
  
That depends. I didn't use KDE that much (before I was forced to by
SuSE), but when I did, I usually found the Autodetect to suc... be less
than optimal for the onboard sound chip I was using at that time (VIA
8233). Changing the sound server to use ALSA sometimes worked, but the
"surest bet" was to use OSS or Threaded OSS (because I had ALSA OSS
emulation enabled).
  

Thanks!

HTH,
  
Holly
  
  
  




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Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks to all who replied [ was Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice ]

[Qian Qiao]

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:11:57 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 08:00:23PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > On Wednesday 09 February 2005 01:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > G'day All;
> 
> >
> > Joel... depending on what you are upgrading from... your new machine will
> > probably blow your socks off... As for the sata hardware, I've no practical
> > experience.
> 
> Will be picking up the new box on Saturday went to 754 socket as I
> couldn't find a decently priced 939 socket motherboard, by the time I
> want to upgrade again the 939 socket will probably be OOD anyway.
> 
> I'm upgrading from a Celeron 700 w' 256Mb RAM. last time I installed Gentoo
> it took approx 4 days (including X, fvwm and teTeX) I think my new
> box will take somewhat less time :-)
> 

You could keep the old box, and run distcc, gonna save you some time.

Good luck

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[gentoo-user] Thanks to all who replied [ was Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice ]

[bluebird_zenith]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 08:00:23PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 February 2005 01:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > G'day All;

> 
> Joel... depending on what you are upgrading from... your new machine will 
> probably blow your socks off... As for the sata hardware, I've no practical 
> experience.

Will be picking up the new box on Saturday went to 754 socket as I
couldn't find a decently priced 939 socket motherboard, by the time I
want to upgrade again the 939 socket will probably be OOD anyway.

I'm upgrading from a Celeron 700 w' 256Mb RAM. last time I installed Gentoo
it took approx 4 days (including X, fvwm and teTeX) I think my new
box will take somewhat less time :-)

Cheers (and thanks to everyone)

Joel

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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent chmod nvram

[Barry . Schwartz]

Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 06:40:07PM -0500, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > I need /dev/nvram to be chmod 666.  I make the change, but it doesn't 
> > persist 
> > through a reboot.  Any advice on making the change permanent appreciated.  
> > Using udev if that's relevant.   Thanks.
> 
> No udev expert here, but there is a rules file that you can use to
> configure specific settings for devices.  /etc/udev/udev.rules.* or
> something like that.  Google for it or hit the forums for info.
> Hopefully that's a good starting point.

I had to do this (for some other devices) just today.  You can edit a
new file in /etc/udev/rules.d -- that's what I did, calling the file
30-local.rules so it would be read before the Gentoo file.  It seems
that earlier rules take precendence over later rules.  That's
something I found by trial and error.

Another way would be to use /etc/conf.d/local.start to change
permissions.


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| Using udev if that's relevant.   Thanks.
|
As Alan pointed out you need to configure the settings in
/etc/udev/permissions.d/. Also, in case you're using PAM, check the
settings in /etc/security/console.perms. And if that wouldn't be enough,
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RC_DEVICE_TARBALL in /etc/conf.d/rc to "NO").
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice

[Jerry McBride]

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 01:57 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'day All;
>
> I'm in the process of buying a new PC and I'm thinking of going with an
> AMD64, but it's been about 6 years since my last hardware purchase :-)
> so a bit of friendly advice is most welcome. This is what I'm thinking
> of getting...
>
> AMD64 3.0Ghz CPU
> Epox 8KDA3J Motherboard
> Liteon DVD+-RW SOHW 1653S02C
> 120G Western Digital SATA HD (might get two and go RAID but I probably
> don't need it)
> nVidia GeForce FX5500
>
> I know the video card is dated but I'm not gamer and mostly happy with
> the nVidia TNT2 I have at the moment, so I don't see the need for
> anything better (unless there any horrible compatibilty issues with it)
>
> Any advice or comments extremely welcome.
>

Joel... depending on what you are upgrading from... your new machine will 
probably blow your socks off... As for the sata hardware, I've no practical 
experience.


Cheers.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent chmod nvram

[Alan]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 06:40:07PM -0500, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> I need /dev/nvram to be chmod 666.  I make the change, but it doesn't persist 
> through a reboot.  Any advice on making the change permanent appreciated.  
> Using udev if that's relevant.   Thanks.

No udev expert here, but there is a rules file that you can use to
configure specific settings for devices.  /etc/udev/udev.rules.* or
something like that.  Google for it or hit the forums for info.
Hopefully that's a good starting point.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Udev symlinks & related problems

[Peter Karlsson]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> Possibly, but the examples in Daniel Drake's udev rules howto all use it,
> so I prefer to play safe.

Ok, thanks.

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 questions: frame buffer, dma

[Willie Wong]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:49:04PM +0100, pat wrote:
> 2) I want to start my text console in figher resolutin, I know I need 
> frame buffer, but I trying without sucess :-\ What all I have to do ???

Enable framebuffer in your kernel. using menuconfig, that should be
under 

Device Drivers -> Graphics Device -> Support for Frame Buffer

In the menu that it brings up, you probably want to build VGA, plus
some other things. To get console in high resolution, you need to go
down the list to where it says:
  Console display driver support
and in it, select
  Video mode selection support
and
  Framebuffer COnsole support
which then allows you to select
  Select compiled-in fonts
I personally choose the VGA 8x8, VGA 8x16 and Mini 4x6

After that, you need to add the following to the bootloader:
something that looks like vga-794 to select the video mode. For a
listing of the different video modes, see
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10

Cheers, 

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[gentoo-user] Persistent chmod nvram

[Ed Jabbour]

I need /dev/nvram to be chmod 666.  I make the change, but it doesn't persist 
through a reboot.  Any advice on making the change permanent appreciated.  
Using udev if that's relevant.   Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail Problems

[Frank Tegtmeyer]

Stefan Onken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> shared object:Cannot allocate memory
> any idea ?

The answer is there: Cannot allocate memory.

Increase the memory limits for qmail-smtpd (set by softlimit or
ulimit). For the ebuild its in /var/qmail/control/conf-common
(SOFTLIMIT_OPTS).

Regards, Frank

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[Holly Bostick]

James Hiscock wrote:
Where are you getting this from? According to the Activision support
(and the Id Software page):

And on a personal note, my bf can play Doom 3 (under Windows; I can't
get it to run, myself) on HQ settings with an ATI 9600 Pro
...HQ isn't Ultra... there's Low, Medium, High, and Ultra Quality in
the video settings for the game... (see below...)
Maybe you mean 512MB system RAM (which most likely is the recommended
minimum for HQ settings), or maybe you'd need such a video card (if one
existed) to play Doom 3 Multiplayer at 1600x1200, but otherwise, I think
you're mistaken.
Nope. I'm not mistaken:
"In Ultra quality, we load each texture; diffuse, specular, normal map
at full resolution with no compression. In a typical DOOM 3 level,
this can hover around a whopping 500MB of texture data. This will run
on current hardware but obviously we cannot fit 500MB of texture data
onto a 256MB card and the amount of texture data referenced in a give
scene per frame ( 60 times a second ) can easily be 50MB+. This can
cause some choppiness as a lot of memory bandwidth is being consumed.
It does however look fantastic :-) and it is certainly playable on
high end systems but due to the hitching that can occur we chose to
require a 512MB Video card before setting this automatically."
(taken from http://www.bluesnews.com/plans/313/ - Robert Duffy's .plan
- July 26th entry)
...and 512MB cards _do_ exist. First hit from google:
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=512MB+video+card&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=ff&oi=froogler
So there. :P
I stand corrected; I'll say no more (especially about spending over 800 
USD for a video card)

:-)
Holly
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RE: [gentoo-user] Samba getpeername failed - Reverse DNS?

[Dave Nebinger]

> 
> Anyone have any suggestions? I need to get this printing slowness problem
> resolved.

It is possible to use cups for printing w/o using samba (that's how my
environ is set up).  There's info out there at
http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html that will
explain how to do it.




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[gentoo-user] Some questions about samba & ldap

[RNuno]

Hi,
I already ask this questions on the samba-list, but since the servers
are gentoo maybe someone have the same problems and can share a
solution ;)
I have a working domain with samba-3.0.10 and Openldap-2.1.30.
I'm happy with the setup but I have a few issues that I would like to
know if someone have it too or know how to solve them.
1) Is there any way a Domain User can install a printer from the samba
server? cuz it's a litle annoying going to all the pc's as Administrator
to install them.
2) Changing the password on the windows clients does not sync with the
ldap password. I read that Ldap must support exop for that to happen,
but the only reference that i found to it is on ldap.conf
(pam_password exop) and it's uncomment or do I miss something?
3) Is there any way that I can give permission to a group/user so that
it can make shares on is own workstation? I read all about policies but
i can't find anything about it.
4) I use roaming profiles and for now it's working great with only a
minor issue that i'm not sure it's related to it or not. When i'm
working on the workstation with, for instance, 4 Firefox, Thunderbird,
3 puttys, sometimes my taskbar freezes for some seconds (like 10 to 15)
I notice that cuz I use the Show Desktop button alot.
Does anyone have this issue? this happens to all the pc's on the
network, is it related with the roaming profile?
Thanks in advance, regards
Ricardo Nuno
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 questions: frame buffer, dma

[bluebird_zenith]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 10:49:04PM +0100, pat wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Finally I save time to finish skeleton of my Gentoo, it's nice :-) I 
> have questions:
> 1) where I have to enable DMA access to hdd ??? (using reiserfs)

emerge hdparm (it might allready be installed) then add some thing like

hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdd

to an appropriate startup file but RTFM first before you do anything
with hdparm misuse can kill your hardware!

> 2) I want to start my text console in figher resolutin, I know I need 
> frame buffer, but I trying without sucess :-\ What all I have to do ???

Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt and add the appropriate
line to the kernel options when you boot (in /boot/grub/menu.lst or
/etc/lilo.conf depends on how you boot)

for exmample adding 

vga=0x317 

will give you a 1024x768 64k colour frame buffer, if you've got
FB support compiled into the kernel of course.

IIRC haven't used fb in quite a while...

Cheers

Joel

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 questions: frame buffer, dma

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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| Finally I save time to finish skeleton of my Gentoo, it's nice :-) I
| have questions:
| 1) where I have to enable DMA access to hdd ??? (using reiserfs)
If your kernel is configured properly there is no need to manually
enable it (e.g. using hdparm).
| 2) I want to start my text console in figher resolutin, I know I need
| frame buffer, but I trying without sucess :-\ What all I have to do ???
There are a lot of guides around in the gentoo forums and the wiki.
Regards,
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RE: [gentoo-user] 2 questions: frame buffer, dma

[Dave Nebinger]

> 1) where I have to enable DMA access to hdd ??? (using reiserfs)

/etc/conf.d/hdparm

> 2) I want to start my text console in figher resolutin, I know I need
> frame buffer, but I trying without sucess :-\ What all I have to do ???

Config framebuffer in kernel, make appropriate changes in
/boot/grub/grub.conf or /etc/lilo.conf



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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo -2-> dvd ?

[Martin Scharrer]

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 18:45, raptor wrote:
> hi,
>
> a tool for quck backup/restore of gentoo installation ?
> Or better is to use standard tools dar/tar/cp !!?
I was copying all of the gentoo system to a other disk (mounted it ro before)
with rsync and burned the data to a DVD. I forgot to make the DVD bootable but 
it was possible to boot the DVD by using a existing kernel on the harddisk 
and giving him the option "root=/dev/hdc" (the DVD device). The system was 
booting and running stable. But it didn't liked a read-only /var and /tmp 
and /etc/mtab.

By making the DVD bootable and storing a kernel in the bootimage-part, 
changing the /etc/fstab to have ramdisks for /var and /tmp and you are able 
to boot the whole system from the DVD.

Sorry for the long answer. 
I recommend finally this:
create a big enough partition to store the gentoo installation
then copy it with rsync (or similar tools) to this partition, using an 
emergency boot cd or mount the most as read-only before.
you can burn the data from this partition without any risk 
in the case of an emergency you are able to boot your old installation from 
the partition (using grub for that, lilo is not flexible enough)

best
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[gentoo-user] Samba getpeername failed - Reverse DNS?

[David D. Rea]

Hi All-

Having some odd difficulties with samba and Windows XP SP2 clients. File
share browsing works just fine, but printing is taking forever. It takes
several seconds to get a print dialog on a WinXP box, then several seconds
more if you want to change printers, then several seconds more to actually
print the job after hitting the "Print" button. Not experiencing any of
this when printing to printers shared from non-Samba boxes.

I did some poking around in the logs first. I see the following
interesting things:

In /var/log/messages:
> getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
This only occurs periodically, not every time a print attempt is made=

In /var/log/samba:
There are four log files made each time an XP machine connects:
log.0.0.0.0
log.[the-xp-machine's-ip]
log.[the-xp-machine's-netbios-name]
log.[the-xp-machine's-netbios-name].old

In /var/log/samba/log.0.0.0.0:
smbd/connection.c:yield_connection(76)
  yield_connection: tdb_delete for name  failed with error Record does not
exist.

/var/log/samba/[the-xp-machine's-netbios-name] is HUGE... Looks almost
like every packet is getting logged here. My debuglevel in
/etc/samba/smb.conf is set to 3.

After poking around on google, I'm thinking it might be a reverse DNS
issue. Some prior posts on this list pseudo-confirmed that, but I'm still
not sure what I need to do to resolve it. If I try to ping one of the
windows boxes by its netbios name, I get a host not found, as I would
expect. But I've so far been unsuccessful in getting netbios name lookups
working.

I've tried adding a "wins server = [ip-address-of-wins-server]" in the
/etc/samba/smb.conf file - no help. I've tried adding "wins" to the
"hosts:" line of /etc/nsswitch.conf - no help. Meanwhile, I can type "ping
[somemachine]" in a command window on my XP box, and it happily finds the
other box.

Anyone have any suggestions? I need to get this printing slowness problem
resolved.

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT ghostscript

[Antoine]

Peter Eis wrote:
Antoine wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know why converting a standard a4 pdf to tiffg4 with 
postscript would give me tiffs of about a1 size?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] doc $ gs -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sOutputFile=wow.tif 
-sDEVICE=tiffg4 -dFIXEDMEDIA -sPAPERSIZE=a4 general.pdf quit.ps

[EMAIL PROTECTED] doc $ tiffdump wow.tif
wow.tif:
Magic: 0x4949  Version: 0x2a
Directory 0: offset 8 (0x8) next 1740 (0x6cc)
SubFileType (254) LONG (4) 1<2>
ImageWidth (256) LONG (4) 1<1728>
ImageLength (257) LONG (4) 1<2292>
BitsPerSample (258) SHORT (3) 1<1>
Compression (259) SHORT (3) 1<4>
...
Most annoying! I get reasonable values if I set the DPI to 72 (normal 
size) but I need 300. I guess I need to do some kind of resampling - 
or do I?

to create a tiff mith 300 DPI you could use
gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -g2480x3508 -r300 -dTextAlphaBits=4 
-dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -sDEVICE=tiffg4 -sOutputFile=wow.tif a4job.pdf

# tiffinfo wow.tif:
 Image Width: 2480 Image Length: 3508
 Resolution: 300, 300 pixels/inch
The width and length tell you how many pixel the image contains.
Now if you calculate
2480 dots / 8.267717 inch = 299,96 dots/inch
3508 dots / 11.692913 inch = 300,01 dots/inch
So if you print the image on a A4 page the resolution is 300 DPI.
AFAIK there is no way to tell a TIFF that it has a specific page size. 
But most imaging programs like gimp for example will also calculate the 
resulting print size based on the resolution and the pixel dimensions.
Thanks, looks like I got myself thoroughly confused here... of course it 
should be that width and height!
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Antoine

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[gentoo-user] 2 questions: frame buffer, dma

[pat]

Hi All,
Finally I save time to finish skeleton of my Gentoo, it's nice :-) I 
have questions:
1) where I have to enable DMA access to hdd ??? (using reiserfs)
2) I want to start my text console in figher resolutin, I know I need 
frame buffer, but I trying without sucess :-\ What all I have to do ???

Thanks to all
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[gentoo-user] Qmail Problems

[Stefan Onken]

Hello,

I am trying  to setup Qmail on my AMD64 box (the howto with 
vpopmail, courier etc). The install process runs fine and I am able 
to access the Accounts with pop3. Anyway, when trying to send 
emails I am getting a very nasty error:

@4000420a7f241017c234 tcpserver: ok 29229 
www.stonki.com::::213.239.217.135:25 
pd9e332a7.dip.t-dialin.net::::217.227.50.167::50652
@4000420a7f24101f1534 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd: error while 
loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: failed to map segment from 
shared object:Cannot allocate memory
@4000420a7f2410215f24 tcpserver: end 29229 status 32512
@4000420a7f241021630c tcpserver: status: 0/40
                                                    

mail bin # ldd /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
        libssl.so.0.9.7 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 
(0x002a9566c000)
        libcrypto.so.0.9.7 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 
(0x002a957a2000)
        libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x002a959da000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x002a95aee000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x002a95d0e000)
        /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 
(0x002a95556000)



any idea ?

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice

[bluebird_zenith]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 09:40:13AM -0500, Trey Gruel wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:57:26 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > AMD64 3.0Ghz CPU
> 
> 

> unless you plan on waiting for a while, you're not going to be getting
> a 3ghz cpu from amd.  the fastest the have out right now is 2.6ghz
> (fx-55), and i doubt you want to be paying $1000 for the cpu itself
> when leaving a tnt2 in the box..  don't let intel make you think that
> ghz is all that matters in a cpu.

:-)

Oops, the 3000+ is what I was thinking about getting, as I said it's
been many years since I last had to look at hardware...

Thanks

Joel

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone understand gcc locales?

[Paul Worrall]

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 06:32, Mariusz PÄkala wrote:
> On 2005-02-08 21:10:34 + (Tue, Feb), Paul Worrall wrote:
>
> Isn't that a problem to have two en_GB defined, the last with UTF-8
> which, I assume, takes over the ISO-8859-1 encoding?
> Try:
> en_GB/ISO-8859-1
> en_GB.UTF-8/UTF-8

Thanks Mariusz - that seems to do the trick.  Do you know where the syntax of 
this file is documented?  The comments in the file suggest the above entry 
would look for a file called

/usr/share/i18n/locales/en_GB.UTF-8

but no such file exists.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Problems...

[Nick Rout]

I have seen this sort of issue caused by using the hardware mouse in X

There is some option in xorg.conf to turn it off

Something like 

option HWcursor  off


On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:58:49 +
Alex Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am being slowly driven insane by my mouse. When in X.org (GNUStep) I
> am having problems with my mouse losing synchronisation and doing odd
> stuff (randomly moving, selecting, clicking etc). Sometimes (and for
> varying degrees fo time in both fixing and before it becomes
> unfixable) I can fix this by removing the psmouse module and reloading
> it (It is now a mosule to avoid me having to reboot every time it did
> this). I have tried different mice and different kernels (in kernel
> and module), but nothing seems to fix this. I have come to the
> conclusion it's a hardware problem (unless anyone knows of any
> problems with mice doing this in latest portage (~x86) x.org or
> GNUStep).
> 
> I have also noticed that sometimes, when I do have to reboot over this
> issue, one of my SCSI harddrives is "Not Ready" (from the Advansys
> "BIOS" screen) and I have to leave it for a while before rebooting
> again. Could this be tied into the problem? If so, I need to remove it
> from my LVM before I can take it out and was looking to see if anyone
> had any other ideas before I bring the house down with my screaming.
> 
> Alex
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone know what has happenned to chinstrap binary project?

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:20:35 +0100
Spider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 22:47 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> 
> Trying to get hold of somone on location, which involves getting hold of
> a conference attendee in .nz, in order to find who of the people on-site
> I should go hunt down. :)

if he is in chch i will go around with the rubber hoses if you need me too :-)

> 
> 
> //Spider
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Re: [gentoo-user] qmail config problems

[Rumen Yotov]

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| | Rumen Yotov wrote:
| | ... snip ...
| |
| |> So in short my question is: which way to choose: deal with my current
| |> setup, do the setup by the lifewithqmail-docs or a mixer of both?
| |> PS: also will appreciate any comments on installing qmail.
| |> TIA
| |> Rumen
| |
| |
| | emerge qmail, modify files in /var/qmail/control
| | (follow life-with-qmail)
| |
| | check /service for following symlinks:
| | qmail-send -> /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send
| | qmail-smtpd -> /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd
| |
| | start qmail:
| | # /etc/init.d/svscan start
| | and it should work, I do not remember any troubles  :-)
| |
| | ggle for document "qmail on gentoo", which can help u too
| |
| | noro
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| |
| |
| Hi,
| Thanks for your answer.
| Remember i changed something in /var/qmail because of gradmin2
| complaining about permissions, just don't remeber what it was.
| Later/now again changed some ownerships/perms to a more relaxed ones,
| but think this method (probe/error) isn't good in this case, so starting
| from the beginning.
| Never mind, now reemerging qmail and reconfiguring it.
| Last two days saw many links to the doc - QmailOnGentoo.txt but they all
| point to a nonexistant file, bad. Can't find it elsewhere too.
| PS: think it's clearly path/permissions problem.
| TIA
| Rumen
Hi,
Issue solved, have a working qmail-install.
At last the doc "QmailOnGentoo.txt" *was* available, so got it, read it
and going through it, all is OK now. This doc is *great*, thanks.
Previous errors were my fault, bad permissions.
Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Tero Grundström]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Bob Sanders wrote:

> Sorry, just reporting what I've observed on an amd64 system while running
> Enlightenment, with a 1280x1024 jpeg background, 2 Eterms and 1 top.

If so, how come I've been able to compile all this stuff on my box...?


> It also depends on whether c++ and java are involved as well.

Yeah, even some small apps andlibs written in c++ can take *a lot* of
ram to compile and make a low memory system swap like hell.

I've not compiled any java apps but if a program simply links against java
it shouldn't make a big difference.

In an other thread somebody claimed that using the java use flag in
Firefox makes it need more memory to compile. This is not true as all it
does is that it makes sure a java-jre is installed in the system in order
get the java plugin for Firefox.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Matthew Cline]

> 
> You should try your emerge of OO without a desktop running.  This
> will reduce the the amount of memory that is used by the desktop.
> 
> If you use gdm:
> 
> rc-update del gdm default
> 
> replace gdm with whatever desktop manager you are using then reboot
> and you should have a text login.  Login and do your emerge of OO.
> 
> Then when the compile is finished you can add back the desktop manager
> 
> rc-update add gdm default
> 
> Mike

There really isn't a need to reboot just to shutdown the DM. Just
logout of whatever WM you are using, switch back to another VT with
something like CTRL+ALT+F2, login as root, then run:

# /etc/init.d/xdm stop

That will shutdown your DM and allow you to login from whatever VT you
want. After compiling OO, just run:

# /etc/init.dxdm start

to restart the DM.


Matt

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Re: [gentoo-user] Software RAID 1 - Not all devices started in the array.

[Mr. Adam ALLEN.]

On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 00:26 +, Mike Williams wrote:
> On Wednesday 09 February 2005 00:15, Mr. Adam ALLEN. wrote:
> > It looks as though the kernel is making the decisions on the devices
> > rather than any userspace tools. For some reason it isn't considering
> > any thing on hdc.
> 
> With the drivers compiled in, it does.
> It finds devices to consider based on partition type.
> Set all participating partitions to type fd (linux raid autodetect).

Thanks! that was exactly it. The second drive didn't have the partition
type set correctly.

Cheers,
Adam


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo -2-> dvd ?

[Christoph Eckert]

> a tool for quck backup/restore of gentoo installation ?
> Or better is to use standard tools dar/tar/cp !!?

I got my Gentoo system from a friend - a huge tarball on a 
DVD!

I simply unpacked it to an empty partition, adjusted the 
XF86Config and since this moment I'm a happy Gentoo 
user ;-) .

So, tar and gz are your friends, I guess.

If you like, you can also try out dar (and kdar, if you like 
it GUI based).


 Best regards


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[gentoo-user] gentoo -2-> dvd ?

[raptor]

hi,

a tool for quck backup/restore of gentoo installation ?
Or better is to use standard tools dar/tar/cp !!?

bye for now...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Bob Sanders]

> 
> I have a system with 128mb + 256mb of swap. It has been enough to compile
> everything including OOo. I've seen (very rarely) the swap usage to go
> up to about 150-200mb, but it has never run out of memory yet.
> 
> The reason for this may be that I don't use gnome or kde on that computer
> and I mostly use only Firefox at the compile time. Nevertheless your
> memory requirements do not seem realistic under normal desktop usage IMHO.
>

Sorry, just reporting what I've observed on an amd64 system while running
Enlightenment, with a 1280x1024 jpeg background, 2 Eterms and 1 top.

The system has 1 GB memory and 1 GB swap space.  Kernel - 2.6.10-r4,
xdm/X, hddtemp, smartmond, fcron, monkeyd, syslog-ng, portmapper, esd,
xfssyncd, and the normal usb/ata/udev/kernel items.
 
> In the end I think that the memory requirements depend strongly on what
> one has running at the compile time.
>

It also depends on whether c++ and java are involved as well.

Bob 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Mike Noble]

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| Anyway.. I have a 512MB swap partition, I was running top and I wasn't
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|
| Does that still seem like I'm running out?
|
You should try your emerge of OO without a desktop running.  This
will reduce the the amount of memory that is used by the desktop.
If you use gdm:
rc-update del gdm default
replace gdm with whatever desktop manager you are using then reboot
and you should have a text login.  Login and do your emerge of OO.
Then when the compile is finished you can add back the desktop manager
rc-update add gdm default
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Re: [gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le fév février à 17:08:34 "Dave Nebinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment:

>> Is cups necessary for samba?
>
> No, it is not required for samba for filesharing/domains/etc., but cups is
> used for the printer sharing.
>
> If you don't need printer sharing, do 'USE="-cups" emerge -pv samba'.
>

[...]

Moreover, you can use several other printing systems with samba:
>From samba docs:
 Currently supported print systems include:
# bsd, sysv, plp, lprng, aix, hpux, qnx, cups
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Tero Grundström]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Bob Sanders wrote:

> >
> > Anyway.. I have a 512MB swap partition, I was running top and I wasn't
> > even using that much swap.. I have 256MB RAM in the laptop..
> >
> > Does that still seem like I'm running out?
> >
>
> Yes.  There is too little combined memory.  Things like gcc, glibc, and
> firefox have peak memory requirements of 800 MB to 900 MB during a
> compile.  OO requires more than that and you've only 768 MB total
> to provide.

I have a system with 128mb + 256mb of swap. It has been enough to compile
everything including OOo. I've seen (very rarely) the swap usage to go
up to about 150-200mb, but it has never run out of memory yet.

The reason for this may be that I don't use gnome or kde on that computer
and I mostly use only Firefox at the compile time. Nevertheless your
memory requirements do not seem realistic under normal desktop usage IMHO.

In the end I think that the memory requirements depend strongly on what
one has running at the compile time.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy]

[Keith P Hassen]

Bradley Serbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How do you mean... I am trying to use CVS not for internal
> development, but rather to merge packages with the -* KEYWORD.
>
> Who would be my
>
> server admin on the other side of your connection
>
> ?
>
> - Brad
>
> Dirk Raeder wrote:
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> >Bradley Serbu wrote:
> >>Has anyone had any luck with this.
> >>
> >>At work I am behind a firewall and proxy that seem to be blocking
> >> my connection to CVS when i emerge e (enlightment DR17).  Is it
> >> possible to make CVS use port 80?
> >
> >Sure. Tell the server admin on the other side of your connection
> > to make his CVS listen on port 80 and add the port number to your
> > CVSROOT.
> >

Since you do not have control over the CVS server (I assume), then you 
will need to reroute your messages through another machine that is on 
the outside of the firewall.  The problem here is that the server is 
listening on port 2401 (I assume...if it is extssh then it is port 
22, but I doubt that your firewall is blocking port 22 connections) 
and your firewall is blocking outbound port 2401 connections.  So you 
need to find a "hole" in the firewall that will let you establish a 
connection with some other machine, and then you need to forward that 
connection on to the CVS server at port 2401.

Sounds elaborate?  It's not bad actually, and a good learning 
experience.  Below is a script I wrote one day to do what you need 
(it's not very pretty, but does the job).  The basic idea is to get 
an encrypted session established to a remote machine, and then use 
that machine as your gateway to the Internet.  There are other ways 
of doing this, but this one has the advantage of being secure and 
reasonably straightforward.

-
#! /bin/bash
#
# This script establishes an encrypted ppp tunnel
# between two machines for piercing firewalls.
# Original idea from here:
# http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Firewall-Piercing/
# Copyright: Keith Hassen 09.21.2004.
# 
#
# Requirements:
# - Need to have pppd on both machines (this implies
#   that you have root access on both machines).
# - Need to be able to establish an ssh connection.
#   This script assumes the default port of 22.
# - I assume that /etc/resolv.conf exists and that you
#   still want to do DNS lookups on this side of the
#   connection, while pushing everything else through.
# - I assume that you can log in using ssh2 in
#   non-interactive mode.  Use ssh-keygen for this.
# - ** MAKE SURE that you have enabled masquerading and
#   forwarding on the remote side of the connection:
#   echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
#   iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE

# How to run:
# Arg 1: local IP you want to use.
# Arg 2: remote IP you want to use. (this will be your
#gateway).
# Arg 3: the hostname/IP of the remote machine.
# Arg 4: the interface you are currently using for
#connecting to the network.  (eth0, eth1, etc).

echo establishing secure ppp tunnel...
pppd silent $1:$2 pty "ssh -2 -c blowfish -t $3 ""pppd 
ipcp-accept-remote ipcp-accept-local""" || exit;

# Allow time for construction of tunnel.
sleep 5

# Yes, there are better ways, but:
oldgw=`route -n | grep "^0\.0\.0\.0" | sed -e "s/^0\.0\.0\.0 \+\([0-9,
\.]\+\) .*/\1/"` || exit;

echo specifying route for ppp tunnel...
route add -host $3 dev $4 || exit;

echo specifying nameserver routes...
for f in `gawk -F: 'BEGIN { FS = " " } ; {if ($1 ~ "nameserver.*") 
print $2; }' /etc/resolv.conf`; do route add -host $f dev $4; done || 
exit;

echo altering the default gateway...
route del default gw $oldgw || exit;
route add default gw $2 || exit;


echo done!
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Take a look at the URL I wrote into the script above.  It will provide 
all the background information on this sort of thing.

_k


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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Bob Sanders]

> 
> Anyway.. I have a 512MB swap partition, I was running top and I wasn't
> even using that much swap.. I have 256MB RAM in the laptop..
> 
> Does that still seem like I'm running out?
>

Yes.  There is too little combined memory.  Things like gcc, glibc, and
firefox have peak memory requirements of 800 MB to 900 MB during a
compile.  OO requires more than that and you've only 768 MB total
to provide.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice

[Qian Qiao]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:57:26 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day All;
> 
> I'm in the process of buying a new PC and I'm thinking of going with an
> AMD64, but it's been about 6 years since my last hardware purchase :-)
> so a bit of friendly advice is most welcome. This is what I'm thinking
> of getting...
> 
> AMD64 3.0Ghz CPU
> Epox 8KDA3J Motherboard
> Liteon DVD+-RW SOHW 1653S02C
> 120G Western Digital SATA HD (might get two and go RAID but I probably
> don't need it)
> nVidia GeForce FX5500
> 
> I know the video card is dated but I'm not gamer and mostly happy with
> the nVidia TNT2 I have at the moment, so I don't see the need for
> anything better (unless there any horrible compatibilty issues with it)
> 
> Any advice or comments extremely welcome.

Looks already pretty gamer to me. :)

One thing tho, don't bother buying a 754 processor, go for a 939, as
others mentioned. If you're thinking of dual channelling, buy paired
rams. Also, if you are building a raid, look for reliable HDs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy

[Dirk Raeder]

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> Allright, I follow...
> 
> I looked for the CVSROOT setting in my make.conf file but didn't see
> anything related.  What would be the syntax to change the port the cvs
> 
>> from within emerge uses to connect to the server to test if port 80 is 
> 
> open?
> 
> Emerge autoexecutes my cvs command for me.
> - Brad
Hmm, the cvsroot for non-default ports (other than 2401) is
::@:/
 should be 'pserver' in most cases.  will be 80 in your case.


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Re: [gentoo-user] blocker loop

[Kevin Philp]

I saw this a couple of days ago From what I can remember:

1. check that both packages aren't masked, the xorg package isn't but I cant 
remember about the opengl

2. umerge any other opengl packages you have

3. emerge the opengl pack separately

4. try xorg again

I did get mine to work eventually.

Kevin.



On Wednesday 9 February 2005 15:18, [=Jorge Boscan Etura=] wrote:
>Hi people
>
>I'm trying to -update but
>
>[blocks B ] x11-base/opengl-update-2.1_pre6)
>
>are blocking each other, package.mask does not work , thus I cant
>update the whole thing
>
>suggestions?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice

[Bob Sanders]

> G'day All;
> 
> I'm in the process of buying a new PC and I'm thinking of going with an
> AMD64, but it's been about 6 years since my last hardware purchase :-)
> so a bit of friendly advice is most welcome. This is what I'm thinking
> of getting...
> 
> AMD64 3.0Ghz CPU
> Epox 8KDA3J Motherboard
> Liteon DVD+-RW SOHW 1653S02C
> 120G Western Digital SATA HD (might get two and go RAID but I probably
> don't need it)
> nVidia GeForce FX5500
>

Uh, you forgot - really decent power supply.  If you're thinking
of re-using your old case and power supply, forget about
the power supply.  It really needs to be solid.
 
> I know the video card is dated but I'm not gamer and mostly happy with
> the nVidia TNT2 I have at the moment, so I don't see the need for
> anything better (unless there any horrible compatibilty issues with it)
>

I'd suggest looking for a 5200 with a passive heat sink, 128 MB memory or
so. 

> Any advice or comments extremely welcome.
>

Ahh...opening yourself up to the bias' of others.

Ok.  So forget the 754 pin socket.  You'll get a nice performance boost, 8% to 
10%
by going with a 939 pin socket, plus some future proofing, not that that's going
to help a lot.  The pain for this is the cpu will be around US$16 more and you 
have
to by DIMMs in pairs, thus - 2 512 MB DDR3200 DIMMs (current US price for 
Mushkin
High Performance Level II 222 matched pair is $242).

Also, you might be served a bit better with something like the Shuttle SN95G5.
It has the same chipset as the Epox motherboard - nForce3, but includes a 
suitable
power supply and is almost dead silent using a Gfx card with no fan on it.  
Otherwise
the Gfx fan is the annoying sound you'll hear.  Though the Pioneer DVD drive I 
use
tends to make a mighty whoosing sound while ripping audio CDs.

And you might want to surf - http://www.silentpcreview.com/ if noise is any type
of factor in your consideration.

Bob 
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy

[Bradley Serbu]

Allright, I follow...
I looked for the CVSROOT setting in my make.conf file but didn't see 
anything related.  What would be the syntax to change the port the cvs 
from within emerge uses to connect to the server to test if port 80 is 
open?

Emerge autoexecutes my cvs command for me. 

- Brad
Dirk Raeder wrote:
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How do you mean... I am trying to use CVS not for internal development,
but rather to merge packages with the -* KEYWORD.
Who would be my
server admin on the other side of your connection
?
   

Your local CVS program (the client in this case) connects to another CVS
program (the server) running on one of the enlightenment.org-machines. The
server admin is the one responsible for CVS at enlightenment.org or your
favorite download site.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy

[Dirk Raeder]

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Bradley Serbu wrote:
> How do you mean... I am trying to use CVS not for internal development,
> but rather to merge packages with the -* KEYWORD.
> Who would be my
> 
> server admin on the other side of your connection
> 
> ?
> 
Your local CVS program (the client in this case) connects to another CVS
program (the server) running on one of the enlightenment.org-machines. The
server admin is the one responsible for CVS at enlightenment.org or your
favorite download site.

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Re: [gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:12:43 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Add "-cups" to your make.conf USE line and it should remove the
> requirement.

Or, if you only want to disable printing in Samba, do

mkdir -p /etc/portage
echo >>/etc/portage/package.use net-fs/samba -cups

man portage will tell you about the various possibilities for fine control
in /etc/portage.


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[Bradley Serbu]

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Subject:Re: [gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy
Date:   Wed, 09 Feb 2005 06:02:32 -0500
From:   Bradley Serbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

How do you mean... I am trying to use CVS not for internal development, 
but rather to merge packages with the -* KEYWORD. 

Who would be my
server admin on the other side of your connection
?
- Brad
Dirk Raeder wrote:
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Has anyone had any luck with this.
At work I am behind a firewall and proxy that seem to be blocking my
connection to CVS when i emerge e (enlightment DR17).  Is it possible to
make CVS use port 80?
   

Sure. Tell the server admin on the other side of your connection to make his
CVS listen on port 80 and add the port number to your CVSROOT.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: /etc/init.d/alsasound fails to load soundcard module

[Bob Sanders]

> 
> onboard. It's just annoying because if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound stop`
> then it unloads my soundcard module, but if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound 
> start`
> then it doesn't load it back in. Placing the module in the kernel-2.6 file
> helps at boot, but it does nothing to help this init.d case.
>

Hmmm...I just tried that and it works fine. One of my soundcards uses the 
intel8x0
driver, so it all seems to work ok on 2.6.10-r4.

If it's not working, I'd suggest looking to see if what is in 
/etc/modules.d/alsa
is in /etc/modules.conf.  If they don't match, do an - update-modules force

But, even that's not correct, alsasound will try to find sound devices in /proc,
which if it fails could mean soem system utilities are not working correctly.

Which begs the question - have you done an emerge --sync, emerge -uDav world 
recently?

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[dave]

Add "-cups" to your make.conf USE line and it should remove the requirement.

On (2005-02-09 10:57), Covington, Chris wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> On a webserver my /etc/make.conf is as follows:
> 
> USE="-gnome -kde -qt -gdk -alsa -sdl -X -oss -tcltk -ipv6 kerberos ssl
> ldap mysql innodb winbind"
> 
> When I do a emerge -pv samba I get:
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.16  -debug -ipv6 +python +readline
> 3,027 kB 
> [ebuild  N] dev-perl/Digest-MD4-1.3  28 kB 
> [ebuild  N] dev-perl/Crypt-SmbHash-0.02  7 kB 
> [ebuild  N] media-libs/tiff-3.7.1-r1  1,224 kB 
> [ebuild  N] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r1  -debug +nls +pam -samba -slp
> +ssl 8,501 kB 
> [ebuild  N] net-fs/samba-3.0.10  -acl +cups -debug -doc +kerberos
> +ldap -libclamav +mysql -oav +pam -postgres +python -quotas +readline
> (-selinux) +winbind -xml +xml2 15,090 kB 
> 
> Total size of downloads: 27,879 kB
> 
> Is cups necessary for samba?
> 
> Chris
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[Matthew Cline]

> Is cups necessary for samba?
> 

Try adding "-cups" to your USE flags. Seems simple, but USE flags
indicate optional features... IIRC, if something is absolutely
required by a package, then there won't be a USE flag for that
feature.


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RE: [gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[Dave Nebinger]

> Is cups necessary for samba?

No, it is not required for samba for filesharing/domains/etc., but cups is
used for the printer sharing.

If you don't need printer sharing, do 'USE="-cups" emerge -pv samba'.



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RE: [gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[Covington, Chris]

>> [ebuild  N] net-fs/samba-3.0.10  -acl +cups 
>
>I'd say no, cups isn't required. :)

Thanks, I'm still learning the art of the use flags.

Chris

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy

[Bradley Serbu]

How do you mean... I am trying to use CVS not for internal development, 
but rather to merge packages with the -* KEYWORD. 

Who would be my
server admin on the other side of your connection
?
- Brad
Dirk Raeder wrote:
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Has anyone had any luck with this.
At work I am behind a firewall and proxy that seem to be blocking my
connection to CVS when i emerge e (enlightment DR17).  Is it possible to
make CVS use port 80?
   

Sure. Tell the server admin on the other side of your connection to make his
CVS listen on port 80 and add the port number to your CVSROOT.
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Re: [gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[Kashani]

Covington, Chris wrote:
[ebuild  N] net-fs/samba-3.0.10  -acl +cups 
I'd say no, cups isn't required. :)
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[gentoo-user] samba requires cups?

[Covington, Chris]

Hi all,

On a webserver my /etc/make.conf is as follows:

USE="-gnome -kde -qt -gdk -alsa -sdl -X -oss -tcltk -ipv6 kerberos ssl
ldap mysql innodb winbind"

When I do a emerge -pv samba I get:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.16  -debug -ipv6 +python +readline
3,027 kB 
[ebuild  N] dev-perl/Digest-MD4-1.3  28 kB 
[ebuild  N] dev-perl/Crypt-SmbHash-0.02  7 kB 
[ebuild  N] media-libs/tiff-3.7.1-r1  1,224 kB 
[ebuild  N] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r1  -debug +nls +pam -samba -slp
+ssl 8,501 kB 
[ebuild  N] net-fs/samba-3.0.10  -acl +cups -debug -doc +kerberos
+ldap -libclamav +mysql -oav +pam -postgres +python -quotas +readline
(-selinux) +winbind -xml +xml2 15,090 kB 

Total size of downloads: 27,879 kB

Is cups necessary for samba?

Chris

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Re: [gentoo-user] blocker loop

[[=Jorge Boscan Etura=]]

Merci, ca marche


On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:28:57 +0100, Jean Magnan de Bornier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le fév février à 16:18:27 "[=Jorge Boscan Etura=]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a 
> écrit notamment:
> 
> > Hi people
> >
> > I'm trying to -update but
> >
> > [blocks B ]  > x11-base/opengl-update-2.1_pre6)
> >
> > are blocking each other, package.mask does not work , thus I cant
> > update the whole thing
> >
> > suggestions?
> I had the same problem last week; unmerge xorg-x11, update and then
> re-emerge xorg-x11 solved it for me.
> cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] blocker loop

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le fév février à 16:18:27 "[=Jorge Boscan Etura=]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit 
notamment:

> Hi people
>
> I'm trying to -update but
>
> [blocks B ]  x11-base/opengl-update-2.1_pre6)
>
> are blocking each other, package.mask does not work , thus I cant
> update the whole thing
>
> suggestions?
I had the same problem last week; unmerge xorg-x11, update and then
re-emerge xorg-x11 solved it for me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Leif B. Kristensen]

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 15:26, Mark Brier wrote:
> I beg to differ, compiled Ooo runs much faster than the binary
> version. It's a long compile, but worth it IMO. Took about 6 hours on
> my athlon-xp 2000 with half a gig of ram (ximian version).

I'm using plain text editors for all my creative work. I need OOo about 
once a month for opening an email attachment written in Word, and don't 
consider a few seconds extra for opening a document worth all the 
compiling. But, as always, YMMV.
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[gentoo-user] blocker loop

[[=Jorge Boscan Etura=]]

Hi people

I'm trying to -update but

[blocks B ] http://www.uft.edu.ve>
Linux 2.6.10-ac10 i686 running fc2, lu #137000
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy

[Dirk Raeder]

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> Has anyone had any luck with this.
> 
> At work I am behind a firewall and proxy that seem to be blocking my
> connection to CVS when i emerge e (enlightment DR17).  Is it possible to
> make CVS use port 80?
Sure. Tell the server admin on the other side of your connection to make his
CVS listen on port 80 and add the port number to your CVSROOT.

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Re: [gentoo-user] traceroute graph?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

sorry that i was misunderstood, 
i meaned ...somethig which after given several ip's
will make a graph/web/map of the paths to them...
not a single trace


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||
|| does anyone know of a script/program that
|| can make interconnection-graph of routes,
|| traced with traceroute/ping...
|
|xtraceroute (how surprising ;) )

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Re: [gentoo-user] Thinking about buying an AMD64, after some advice

[Trey Gruel]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:57:26 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AMD64 3.0Ghz CPU


unless you plan on waiting for a while, you're not going to be getting
a 3ghz cpu from amd.  the fastest the have out right now is 2.6ghz
(fx-55), and i doubt you want to be paying $1000 for the cpu itself
when leaving a tnt2 in the box..  don't let intel make you think that
ghz is all that matters in a cpu.

that being said, the athlon 64 3000+ (1.8 or 2.0 ghz depending on
pincount) is the best value in athlon 64s.  just make sure that the
pin count on the cpu matches that of the mobo.  the mobo you list is
754-pin, which gives you single channel ram, versus 939-pin (dual
channel).

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[gentoo-user] CVS behind firwall/proxy

[Bradley Serbu]

Has anyone had any luck with this.
At work I am behind a firewall and proxy that seem to be blocking my 
connection to CVS when i emerge e (enlightment DR17).  Is it possible to 
make CVS use port 80? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Mark Brier]

Quoting "Leif B. Kristensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
You should really consider openoffice-bin. OOo is a behemoth package
that takes six hours to compile on my 3.0 GHz P-4. I flushed it after
the third recompile and emerged openoffice-bin instead. Except for the
install time, I can't notice any difference at all.
I beg to differ, compiled Ooo runs much faster than the binary version. 
It's a
long compile, but worth it IMO. Took about 6 hours on my athlon-xp 2000 with
half a gig of ram (ximian version). Maybe it is the use flags, agressive use
flags frequently crap the Ooo compile out. Try and tone it down a bit.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[James Hiscock]

> Where are you getting this from? According to the Activision support
> (and the Id Software page):



> And on a personal note, my bf can play Doom 3 (under Windows; I can't
> get it to run, myself) on HQ settings with an ATI 9600 Pro

...HQ isn't Ultra... there's Low, Medium, High, and Ultra Quality in
the video settings for the game... (see below...)

> Maybe you mean 512MB system RAM (which most likely is the recommended
> minimum for HQ settings), or maybe you'd need such a video card (if one
> existed) to play Doom 3 Multiplayer at 1600x1200, but otherwise, I think
> you're mistaken.

Nope. I'm not mistaken:

"In Ultra quality, we load each texture; diffuse, specular, normal map
at full resolution with no compression. In a typical DOOM 3 level,
this can hover around a whopping 500MB of texture data. This will run
on current hardware but obviously we cannot fit 500MB of texture data
onto a 256MB card and the amount of texture data referenced in a give
scene per frame ( 60 times a second ) can easily be 50MB+. This can
cause some choppiness as a lot of memory bandwidth is being consumed.
It does however look fantastic :-) and it is certainly playable on
high end systems but due to the hitching that can occur we chose to
require a 512MB Video card before setting this automatically."

(taken from http://www.bluesnews.com/plans/313/ - Robert Duffy's .plan
- July 26th entry)

...and 512MB cards _do_ exist. First hit from google:
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=512MB+video+card&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=ff&oi=froogler

So there. :P

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[dave]

On (2005-02-09 10:58), Holly Bostick wrote:
> James Hiscock wrote:
> >>There is no game out there that uses 256 of onboard graphics ram. 
> >
> >I take it you haven't bothered looking at the requirements for Doom3,
> >huh? In the highest quality mode, it _requires_ a 512MB video card --
> >basically because the textures are all loaded uncompressed...
> >
> >...it's silly...
> >
>  Yes, especially since there is no such card available to the best of 
> my knowledge (find me a link to a buyable card with 512MB onboard RAM).
> 
> Where are you getting this from? According to the Activision support 
> (and the Id Software page):
> 
> What are the minimum system requirements?
>   Answer
>   Minimum System Requirements
> English version of Microsoft?? Windows?? 2000/XP
> Pentium?? 4 1.5 GHz or Athlon(tm) XP 1500+ processor
> 384MB RAM
> 8x Speed CD-ROM drive (1200KB/sec sustained transfer rate) and latest 
> drivers
> 2.2GB of uncompressed free hard disk space (plus 400MB for Windows?? swap 
> file)
> 100% DirectX?? 9.0b compatible 16-bit sound card and latest drivers
> 100% Windows?? 2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard and latest drivers
> DirectX?? 9.0b (included)
> 3D hardware Accelerator Card Required - 100% DirectX?? 9.0b compatible 
> 64MB Hardware Accelerated video card and the latest drivers.
> 
> *Important Note: Some 3D accelerator cards with the chipset listed here 
> may not be compatible with the 3D accelerator features utilized by Doom 
> 3. Please refer to your hardware manufacturer for 100% DirectX 9.0b 
> compatibility. This product does not support Microsoft?? Windows?? 
> 95/98/ME or NT.
> 
> Supported Chipsets
> 
> ATI?? Radeon 8500
> ATI?? Radeon 9000
> ATI?? Radeon 9200
> ATI?? Radeon 9500
> ATI?? Radeon 9600
> ATI?? Radeon 9700
> ATI?? Radeon 9800
> All Nvidia?? GeForce 3/Ti series
> All Nvidia?? GeForce 4MX series
> All Nvidia?? GeForce 4/Ti series
> All Nvidia?? GeForce FX series
> Nvidia?? GeForce 6800 series
> 
> 
> And on a personal note, my bf can play Doom 3 (under Windows; I can't 
> get it to run, myself) on HQ settings with an ATI 9600 Pro; he doesn't, 
> because it's a bit choppy, but that may also be due to his (slowish) 
> Celeron or the fact that he runs the software router on our network (so 
> any I-net use by me slows his PC down), as well as the fact that the 
> video card is not the highest-powered version.
> 
> Maybe you mean 512MB system RAM (which most likely is the recommended 
> minimum for HQ settings), or maybe you'd need such a video card (if one 
> existed) to play Doom 3 Multiplayer at 1600x1200, but otherwise, I think 
> you're mistaken.
> 
> Holly
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> 

I'm not sure I'll even buy and ATI card again. It gave me trouble on both 
windows and linux. It never seemed safe to just get the latest drivers for 
windows. You would have to FIND a stable version in the archives. In linux, I 
would lock my entire machine to the point that I couldn't even ssh in to try 
and correct things. To top it off, on linux, performance was also sub-par.
Do yourself a major favor and buy NVIDIA. I Have a Chaintech 5700 LE and have 
had 0 problems after initally setting it up, which was amazingly easy with 
gentoo. It also plays Doom3 rather well on the lower settings. If you want more 
kick than the 5700 LE, buy something better, but it's seems to be a great card 
for the money to me.

Dave

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: New perl user needs shell help

[Joel Merrick]

On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 13:08 +, Joel Merrick wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to call sensors (from the lmsensors package) from within Perl
> and have the stdout piped into an array.
> 
> I'm afrain I'm _very_new to perl so I'm not 100% sure I'm doing it
> right, wondering if you guys can help.
> 
> So far I've done;
> 
>use Shell qw(sensors);
>$sensors = sensors('-A');
>print $sensors

Doh! :)

My bad;

> 
> Yet nothing gets printed..
> 
> I've tried using the O.O. example from perl's website and that works
> (albeit without any linefeeds). The problem is that I want to run a
> regex on the array and chomp it (if that;s the right terminology), so
> that I can have a seperate variable for each temperature and fan speed.
> 
> Any help for this newbie appreciated!
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf with more than one mouse & synaptics

[Mike Williams]

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 14:02, Vittorio wrote:
> Why doesn't it seem to recognize the Synaptics touchpad whilst at boot time
> it does?
> Are the options "device" of the kind /dev/misc/psaux, /dev/misc/mice, etc
> in my xorg.conf (see below) correct?
> And the InputDevice(s)?

I've just been and done this.
Here are the relevant sections of my config.

Section "Module"
Load"synaptics"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "USB Mouse"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
   Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
  Option  "Resolution" "1200"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol""IMPS/2"
Option "Device"  "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Synaptics"
Driver "synaptics"
Option "Protocol""IMPS/2"
Option "Device"  "/dev/input/event0"
Option "Protocol"  "event"
Option "SHMConfig" "on"
Option "Emulate3Buttons""yes"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Simple Layout"
Screen "Screen 1"
InputDevice "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Synaptics" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

They key is the evdev kernel module/driver.
You need to turn on "Event interface" in "Input device support".

I'm quite happily using both a USB wheel mouse, and my touchpad at the same 
time.

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[gentoo-user] OT: New perl user needs shell help

[Joel Merrick]

Hi,

I'm trying to call sensors (from the lmsensors package) from within Perl
and have the stdout piped into an array.

I'm afrain I'm _very_new to perl so I'm not 100% sure I'm doing it
right, wondering if you guys can help.

So far I've done;

   use Shell qw(sensors);
   $sensors = sensors('-A');
   print $sensors

Yet nothing gets printed..

I've tried using the O.O. example from perl's website and that works
(albeit without any linefeeds). The problem is that I want to run a
regex on the array and chomp it (if that;s the right terminology), so
that I can have a seperate variable for each temperature and fan speed.

Any help for this newbie appreciated!

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[gentoo-user] xorg.conf with more than one mouse & synaptics

[Vittorio]

Context: pentium 4, latest gentoo, kde 3.3.2, kernel 2.6.10, and the compiled 
synaptics stuff.

As far as mice are concerned this is what I find in /var/log/messages at boot 
time:

... mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
... input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
... input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio3
... Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1
... Firmware: 5.9
... Sensor: 51
... new absolute packet format
... Touchpad has extended capability bits
... -> 4 multi-buttons, i.e. besides standard buttons
... -> multifinger detection
... -> palm detection
... input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio4
... Using anticipatory io scheduler
<\SNIP>

But the *** touchpad  doesn't seem to be recognized by X(org) because 
in /var/log/xorg.0.log I invariably find:


X Window System Version 6.8.0
Release Date: 8 September 2004
...
(**) |-->Input Device "PS/2 Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Touchpad"
(**) |-->Input Device "USB Mouse"
(WW) Duplicate core pointer devices.  Removing core pointer attribute from 
"USB Mouse"
(.
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
 compiled for 6.8.0, module version = 1.0.0
 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o
(II) Module synaptics: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
 compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
 ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.3
(...
(II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.13.6
Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 1 nodes)
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/misc/psaux"
(**) Option "SHMConfig" "on"
(**) Option "RTCornerButton" "0"
(**) Option "RBCornerButton" "0"
(**) Option "CircularScrolling" "1"
Query no Synaptics: 6003C8
(EE) Touchpad no synaptics touchpad detected and no repeater device
(EE) Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Touchpad"
(II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"

<\SNIP>


Why doesn't it seem to recognize the Synaptics touchpad whilst at boot time it 
does?
Are the options "device" of the kind /dev/misc/psaux, /dev/misc/mice, etc in 
my xorg.conf (see below) correct?
And the InputDevice(s)?

Ciao
Vittorio


Here it is what is inside my xorg.conf file as far as mice are concerned


---
Section "ServerLayout"
..
 InputDevice"PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
 InputDevice"Touchpad" "AlwaysCore"
InputDevice"USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
 Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
 Driver  "mouse"
 Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
 Option  "Device" "/dev/misc/psaux"
 Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
 Option  "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
 Option "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice" 
 Identifier "Touchpad" 
 Driver "synaptics" 
 Option "Device"  "/dev/misc/psaux" 
 Option "Protocol"  "auto-dev" 
 Option "Emulate3Buttons"  "yes" 
 Option "SHMConfig"  "on" 
 Option "RTCornerButton"  "0" 
 Option "RBCornerButton"  "0" 
 Option "CircularScrolling"  "1" 
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "USB Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
 Option  "SendCoreEvents" "true"
Option  "Protocol"  "IMPS/2"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
Option  "Buttons"   "5"
EndSection
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[gentoo-user] Mouse Problems...

[Alex Lambert]

I am being slowly driven insane by my mouse. When in X.org (GNUStep) I
am having problems with my mouse losing synchronisation and doing odd
stuff (randomly moving, selecting, clicking etc). Sometimes (and for
varying degrees fo time in both fixing and before it becomes
unfixable) I can fix this by removing the psmouse module and reloading
it (It is now a mosule to avoid me having to reboot every time it did
this). I have tried different mice and different kernels (in kernel
and module), but nothing seems to fix this. I have come to the
conclusion it's a hardware problem (unless anyone knows of any
problems with mice doing this in latest portage (~x86) x.org or
GNUStep).

I have also noticed that sometimes, when I do have to reboot over this
issue, one of my SCSI harddrives is "Not Ready" (from the Advansys
"BIOS" screen) and I have to leave it for a while before rebooting
again. Could this be tied into the problem? If so, I need to remove it
from my LVM before I can take it out and was looking to see if anyone
had any other ideas before I bring the house down with my screaming.

Alex
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:01:25 +, Shaun Lipscombe wrote:

> > Either start the emerge from a virtual console or a screen session.
> > That way the terminal won't be closed when the WM shots down and the
> > compile will continue.
 
> Well I decided to use ssh, since even if it disconnects me I'll at least
> have a record of where the emerge got to, unlike the last three attempts
> :-)

Don't start a long compile over ssh without using screen. Otherwise you
could have another attempt aborted, by a network failure.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
Am Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005 12:50 schrieb ext Bastian Balthazar Bux:
 

Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
   

ebuild /path/to/ebuild compile
 

maybe I'm remembering wrong but compile before to start issue the
equivalent of a "make clean"
If it's wrong please post, it's usefull to know.
   

Yes, it is. It starts the src_compile function of the ebuild again, so it 
will not do make clean unless it's explicitely called in this function.

Bye...
	Dirk
 

thanks francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT ghostscript

[Peter Eis]

Antoine wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know why converting a standard a4 pdf to tiffg4 with 
postscript would give me tiffs of about a1 size?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] doc $ gs -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sOutputFile=wow.tif 
-sDEVICE=tiffg4 -dFIXEDMEDIA -sPAPERSIZE=a4 general.pdf quit.ps

[EMAIL PROTECTED] doc $ tiffdump wow.tif
wow.tif:
Magic: 0x4949  Version: 0x2a
Directory 0: offset 8 (0x8) next 1740 (0x6cc)
SubFileType (254) LONG (4) 1<2>
ImageWidth (256) LONG (4) 1<1728>
ImageLength (257) LONG (4) 1<2292>
BitsPerSample (258) SHORT (3) 1<1>
Compression (259) SHORT (3) 1<4>
...
Most annoying! I get reasonable values if I set the DPI to 72 (normal 
size) but I need 300. I guess I need to do some kind of resampling - 
or do I?
to create a tiff mith 300 DPI you could use
gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -g2480x3508 -r300 -dTextAlphaBits=4 
-dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -sDEVICE=tiffg4 -sOutputFile=wow.tif a4job.pdf

# tiffinfo wow.tif:
 Image Width: 2480 Image Length: 3508
 Resolution: 300, 300 pixels/inch
The width and length tell you how many pixel the image contains.
Now if you calculate
2480 dots / 8.267717 inch = 299,96 dots/inch
3508 dots / 11.692913 inch = 300,01 dots/inch
So if you print the image on a A4 page the resolution is 300 DPI.
AFAIK there is no way to tell a TIFF that it has a specific page size. 
But most imaging programs like gimp for example will also calculate the 
resulting print size based on the resolution and the pixel dimensions.

HTH,
Peter
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005 12:50 schrieb ext Bastian Balthazar Bux:
> Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
> >ebuild /path/to/ebuild compile
>
> maybe I'm remembering wrong but compile before to start issue the
> equivalent of a "make clean"
> If it's wrong please post, it's usefull to know.
Yes, it is. It starts the src_compile function of the ebuild again, so it 
will not do make clean unless it's explicitely called in this function.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005 12:49 schrieb ext Neil Bothwick:
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:43:10 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > ebuild /path/to/ebuild compile
> > ebuild /path/to/ebuild install
> > ebuild /path/to/ebuild qmerge
>
> ebuild /path/to/ebuild merge
>
> will do it.
You're right, I misunderstood the explanation of merge in the manpage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:01:26 +0100, Karsten Baumgarten wrote:

> Not so weird after all. You are running out of memory while compiling
> openoffice.org. The kernel tries to free up some memory and thus is
> happy to kill everything he thinks is not necessary (including GNOME, X,
> ...) to keep the system running. Create a swap partition or swap file
> and your problems should be solved.

Either start the emerge from a virtual console or a screen session. That
way the terminal won't be closed when the WM shots down and the compile
will continue.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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Shaun Lipscombe wrote:
| * Holly Bostick wrote:
|
|
|>Actually, emerge does compile from where it left off in some respect; it
|>does start the process from the beginning, but if the section is found
|>to already be compiled, it is not recompiled; Portage just goes on to
|>the next part.
|>
|>Compiling OO.o just takes a *really* long time... Some users have
|>reported as long as 12 hours; I think it took me 4 on an Athlon 2200+
|>(1.8Ghz), but it may have been longer.
|>
|>Shouldn't you find out what the problem is that is causing the compile
|>to fail and try to fix it before attempting to recompile? This compile
|>is long enough Or have you already solved the problem? My usual problem
|>is lack of disk space; you need to have about 3 GB free in your temp
|>folder for OO.o to have enough space to compile.
|>
|
|
| I would find out what's wrong but so far I've had gnome running (gdm)
| and emerge running in a terminal I've come back a day later to check up
| on it and strangely its like gnome logged itself out and restarted the
| X session since my terminals and running aps were gone/stopped and I was
| just staring at an empty desktop like when you first login.  I did an
| uptime to make sure the laptop didn't reboot (it hadn't).. I scratched
| my head and tried again. Went up to the laptop this morning and same
| thing! Blank desktop and no clues! This time I'm not going to emerge
| from a terminal in gnome, I've ssh'd into the laptop and hopefully I'll
| get some idea of what exactly is wrong.  However in the meantime
| emergine openoffice seems to start the whole process all over again even
| though I know that 7 hours worth of compiling was fine..
|
| Weird problem. If it does it again, maybe i'll use the binary :-)
Not so weird after all. You are running out of memory while compiling
openoffice.org. The kernel tries to free up some memory and thus is
happy to kill everything he thinks is not necessary (including GNOME, X,
...) to keep the system running. Create a swap partition or swap file
and your problems should be solved.
Regards,
Karsten
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Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue

[Walter Dnes]

On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 05:42:26PM +, Ian K wrote

> snd-opl3sa2<-That gives me the DMESG error
> 
> My laptop is the ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 445CDX.
> 
> I am (trying) using ALSA under KDE 3.3.2
> 
> I have ISA support selected in the kernel options, although I dont
> know where ISAPNP is located.
> 
> I guess thats it for now... Oh yes, inside the sound system of the
> control center, (KDE) when you select the hardware tab, what
> audio device should i use? Autodetect?

  Another thing to check.  Is the soundcard enabled in your BIOS setup?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Bastian Balthazar Bux]

Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
Am Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005 11:25 schrieb ext Shaun Lipscombe:
 

If you emerge a program and it fails.. and you then re-emerge it, is
there a way to tell emerge to continue compiling from where it left off
using the .o files that are already compiled?
   

ebuild /path/to/ebuild compile
 

maybe I'm remembering wrong but compile before to start issue the 
equivalent of a "make clean"
If it's wrong please post, it's usefull to know.

ebuild /path/to/ebuild install
ebuild /path/to/ebuild qmerge
HTH...
	Dirk
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:43:10 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

> ebuild /path/to/ebuild compile
> ebuild /path/to/ebuild install
> ebuild /path/to/ebuild qmerge

ebuild /path/to/ebuild merge

will do it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005 11:25 schrieb ext Shaun Lipscombe:
> If you emerge a program and it fails.. and you then re-emerge it, is
> there a way to tell emerge to continue compiling from where it left off
> using the .o files that are already compiled?
ebuild /path/to/ebuild compile
ebuild /path/to/ebuild install
ebuild /path/to/ebuild qmerge

HTH...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Holly Bostick]

Shaun Lipscombe wrote:
* Holly Bostick wrote:
Actually, emerge does compile from where it left off in some respect; it 
does start the process from the beginning, but if the section is found 
to already be compiled, it is not recompiled; Portage just goes on to 
the next part.

Compiling OO.o just takes a *really* long time... Some users have 
reported as long as 12 hours; I think it took me 4 on an Athlon 2200+ 
(1.8Ghz), but it may have been longer.

Shouldn't you find out what the problem is that is causing the compile 
to fail and try to fix it before attempting to recompile? This compile 
is long enough Or have you already solved the problem? My usual problem 
is lack of disk space; you need to have about 3 GB free in your temp 
folder for OO.o to have enough space to compile.

I would find out what's wrong but so far I've had gnome running (gdm)
and emerge running in a terminal I've come back a day later to check up
on it and strangely its like gnome logged itself out and restarted the
X session since my terminals and running aps were gone/stopped and I was
just staring at an empty desktop like when you first login.  I did an
uptime to make sure the laptop didn't reboot (it hadn't).. I scratched
my head and tried again. Went up to the laptop this morning and same
thing! Blank desktop and no clues! This time I'm not going to emerge
from a terminal in gnome, I've ssh'd into the laptop and hopefully I'll
get some idea of what exactly is wrong.  However in the meantime
emergine openoffice seems to start the whole process all over again even
though I know that 7 hours worth of compiling was fine..
Weird problem. If it does it again, maybe i'll use the binary :-)
That happened to me once. I have this sense that I logged into KDE or 
Openbox to solve it (iirc, it was specifically GNOME-related, or 
possibly GDM-related), but I really don't remember the details. If I was 
you, I'd check b.g.o (bugs.gentoo.org) and/or the forums to see if there 
are more exact instructions. B.g.o. does have a couple of reports of 
people being unable to compile OO.o from within X, but it compiling fine 
from outside it, so your strategy should work if that's your issue.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Leif B. Kristensen]

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 11:25, Shaun Lipscombe wrote:
> OpenOffice has failed on me twice now.. and on a PIII laptop starting
> at Square 1 , again and again is consuming a lot of time!

You should really consider openoffice-bin. OOo is a behemoth package 
that takes six hours to compile on my 3.0 GHz P-4. I flushed it after 
the third recompile and emerged openoffice-bin instead. Except for the 
install time, I can't notice any difference at all.
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Re: [gentoo-user] SoundCard Issue

[Holly Bostick]

Ian K wrote:
Ian K wrote:
Hi.
My laptop has a Yamaha OPL3-SA2 soundcard, but the appropriate 
drivers will not recognize it.
It says the device is not found or busy. I AM SURE my soundcard is 
this, I checked my computer's specifications.
I enabled the appropriate kernel options in the 2.6.10 kernel, and 
compiled and such.
I then modprobed a few of the available ones. I did a DMESG and got 
the above error twice.
Just so you know, the soundcard is an ISA device.
Thanks!
Ian




Hey Holly, sorry about the lack of information.
I got the error:
Yamaha OPL3-SA soundcard not found or device busy
It was repeated twice throughout the dmesg at the times when I did the 
modprobes.
I modprobed the following:
(I wont include the .ko or path)
No, you don't modprobe using the .ko or path anyway, so no need to 
include it.

snd-mpu401-uart
snd-opl3-synth
snd-opl3-lib
snd-rawmidi
snd-hwdep
snd-seq-instr
snd-seq-midi-emul
snd-ainstr-fm
snd-seq-midi
snd-opl3sa2<-That gives me the DMESG error

And what does lsmod say at this point: is the module loaded (meaning 
that it is in fact "busy"), or not (meaning that it is in fact "not 
found")? Well, true, this is not a strict test, as the module might have 
been loaded by the kernel, in which case it does not seem to appear in 
an lsmod (annoying as it is), but it is someplace to start.

Why are you modprobing these modules manually anyway? Why are they not 
being loaded by the kernel, alsasound, or 
/etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6?

And what precisely is your problem with sound-- does it not work, and in 
what respect does it not work? It is quite easy with Gentoo to get 
over-involved with errors that do not actually affect one's use of the 
machine (fixing "errors" for the sake of fixing errors, rather than just 
getting on with what you wanted to do. It's one of the few "downsides" 
to Gentoo ;-) ).

My laptop is the ancient Toshiba Satellite Pro 445CDX.
I am (trying) using ALSA under KDE 3.3.2
I have ISA support selected in the kernel options, although I dont
know where ISAPNP is located.
ISA Plug and Play support is located in Device Drivers=>Plug and Play 
Support.

I guess thats it for now... Oh yes, inside the sound system of the
control center, (KDE) when you select the hardware tab, what
audio device should i use? Autodetect?
That depends. I didn't use KDE that much (before I was forced to by 
SuSE), but when I did, I usually found the Autodetect to suc... be less 
than optimal for the onboard sound chip I was using at that time (VIA 
8233). Changing the sound server to use ALSA sometimes worked, but the 
"surest bet" was to use OSS or Threaded OSS (because I had ALSA OSS 
emulation enabled).

HTH,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] Internal compiler errors in try_split, at emit-rtl.c:3314

[Alexander Skwar]

Hi!

Since recently, I'm getting "internal compiler errors", when
I try to compile gcc, perl and possibly other packages, I
suppose.

Here's the output of gcc failing to build:

/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3.20050110/work/gcc-3.4.3/gcc/hashtable.c: In function 
`approx_sqrt':
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3.20050110/work/gcc-3.4.3/gcc/hashtable.c:310: 
interner Compiler-Fehler: in try_split, bei emit-rtl.c:3314
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See http://bugs.gentoo.org/> for instructions.
Preprocessed source stored into 
/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3.20050110/temp/ccKEjNGC.out file, please attach this 
to your bugreport.
make[2]: *** [hashtable.o] Fehler 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3.20050110/work/build/gcc'
make[1]: *** [stage1_build] Fehler 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3.20050110/work/build/gcc'
make: *** [profiledbootstrap] Fehler 2

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3.20050110 failed.
!!! Function gcc_do_make, Line 1086, Exitcode 2
!!! make failed with profiledbootstrap
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.

   ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3.20050110 to /

You can find the preprocessed source at
http://gentoo.phpquadrat.de/~askwar/ccKEjNGC.out



Perl seems to fail with a similiar error, also dying
in "try_split, at emit-rtl.c:3314":

`sh  cflags "optimize='-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer'" 
numeric.o` -fPIC numeric.c
  CCCMD =  gcc -DPERL_CORE -c -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE 
-DTHREADS_HAVE_PIDS -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gdbm -march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe 
-fomit-frame-pointer  -Wall
numeric.c: In function `S_mulexp10':
numeric.c:815: internal compiler error: in try_split, at emit-rtl.c:3314
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See http://bugs.gentoo.org/> for instructions.
Preprocessed source stored into 
/var/tmp/portage/perl-5.8.6-r2/temp/cc3E0tDE.out file, please attach this to 
your bugreport.
make: *** [numeric.o] Error 1

!!! ERROR: dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r2 failed.

Preprocessed source at
http://gentoo.phpquadrat.de/~askwar/cc3E0tDE.out



What could be the reason for these problems? I have
CFLAGS="-march=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
and no LDFLAGS.

Thanks a lot for any hints you can provide,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Have to perform complete recompile or there is a shortcut?

[Holly Bostick]

Shaun Lipscombe wrote:
If you emerge a program and it fails.. and you then re-emerge it, is
there a way to tell emerge to continue compiling from where it left off
using the .o files that are already compiled?
OpenOffice has failed on me twice now.. and on a PIII laptop starting at
Square 1 , again and again is consuming a lot of time!
Thanks!
Actually, emerge does compile from where it left off in some respect; it 
does start the process from the beginning, but if the section is found 
to already be compiled, it is not recompiled; Portage just goes on to 
the next part.

Compiling OO.o just takes a *really* long time... Some users have 
reported as long as 12 hours; I think it took me 4 on an Athlon 2200+ 
(1.8Ghz), but it may have been longer.

Shouldn't you find out what the problem is that is causing the compile 
to fail and try to fix it before attempting to recompile? This compile 
is long enough Or have you already solved the problem? My usual problem 
is lack of disk space; you need to have about 3 GB free in your temp 
folder for OO.o to have enough space to compile.

Or you could just install the openoffice(-ximian)-bin package and be 
done with it, as most of us not into self-torture wind up doing ;-) .

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: /etc/init.d/alsasound fails to load soundcard module

[Holly Bostick]

Jesse Guardiani wrote:
Holly Bostick wrote:
Jesse Guardiani wrote:
Jans Han Xie wrote:

No, no package installed. I use the in-kernel version.

And pasting the error message when "/etc/init.d/alsasound restart"
will be more help :)
There isn't one. It starts all of the modules except my snd-intel8x0
module. No error, other than the fact that it isn't doing it's job.

1) Try alsaconf. Maybe your card isn't being properly configured (so
alsasound doesn't know to load the module).
Been there, done that. No change. Still doesn't load my module.

However, afaik, there is no "better workaround" than putting the module
in /etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6. After all, that is what that file
is for-- it *is* the "better workaround". My onboard sound chip (a VIA
8233) also requires semi-automatic loading in order to work properly; it
may have something to do with the fact that it *is* onboard sound, and
thus is related to the loading of other motherboard resources before it
can be detected. Is your intel8x0 also onboard, or is it a separate card?
onboard. It's just annoying because if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound stop`
then it unloads my soundcard module, but if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound start`
then it doesn't load it back in. Placing the module in the kernel-2.6 file
helps at boot, but it does nothing to help this init.d case.
OK, if the module is not loaded in the first place, then how does 
stopping alsasound unload it? I have this sense that somewhere you said 
something about "device busy" being displayed (but now I can't find it); 
that message (if it exists) suggests that the device is being loaded by 
the kernel before alsasound tries to load it. That would suggest that 
the module is compiled as a module [M] and not directly into the kernel 
[*], which, although it seems like it should be correct, never worked 
properly for me.

Secondly, why are you stopping alsasound at all? Does sound work if you 
just let things remain as set up after boot?

What I would suggest is that you either:
1) Get a real sound card (I just replaced my onboard sound with a nice 
CMI 8738 card, and Soundblaster Live!s of various stripes are available 
for about the same price or less; I paid about Euro 30, but I could have 
gotten something adequate for half that). It really helps to have a 
distinct card available for detection by normal means, rather than a 
"motherboard resource" which involves BIOS configuration as well as 
kernel and OS configuration;

2) Confirm the sound chip's configuration in the kernel, and also 
confirm the ALSA settings.

2a) Here were my settings for 2.6.10-rc2 (I still haven't reinstalled 
Gentoo, but I have all the system data):

# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=y
#
# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=y
# CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
# CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set
# CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set
#
# Generic devices
#
CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=y
CONFIG_SND_OPL3_LIB=y
# CONFIG_SND_DUMMY is not set
CONFIG_SND_VIRMIDI=y
# CONFIG_SND_MTPAV is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SERIAL_U16550 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MPU401 is not set
#
# PCI devices
#
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=y
# CONFIG_SND_ALI5451 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ATIIXP_MODEM is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8810 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8820 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AU8830 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_AZT3328 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_BT87X is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS46XX is not set
# CONFIG_SND_CS4281 is not set
CONFIG_SND_EMU10K1=y
# CONFIG_SND_KORG1212 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MIXART is not set
# CONFIG_SND_NM256 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME32 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME96 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_RME9652 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDSP is not set
# CONFIG_SND_TRIDENT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_YMFPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ALS4000 is not set
CONFIG_SND_CMIPCI=y
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1370 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ENS1371 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1938 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ES1968 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_MAESTRO3 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_FM801 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1712 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_ICE1724 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
# CONFIG_SND_SONICVIBES is not set
CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=y
# CONFIG_SND_VX222 is not set
2b) Confirm your modules.autoload.d settings. Here was the 
modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 settings that worked to load my VIA 8233 
onboard sound without errors:

# For example:
# 3c59x
#fw-loader
snd-mixer-oss
snd-pcm-oss
snd-seq
#snd-seq-oss (loaded by snd-seq, so commented out)
snd-via82xx
supermount (unrelated)
#via82-cxxx_audio (I tried using OSS for a while)
#ac97_codec (ditto)
gameport (onboard game port)
ns558 (analog settings for onboard game port)
sidewinder (game pad connected to onboard game port)
fglrx (unrelated)
2c) Confirm your /etc/modules.d/alsa settings (maybe it's looking for 

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone know what has happenned to chinstrap binary project?

[Spider]

On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 22:47 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
> The web page http://chinstrap.alternating.net seems to be down, as is
> the mailing list at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> chinstrap is an experimental binary package repository.
> 
> anyone know whats going on?

Wish I knew, Seems that a few of the machines on that segment aren't
answering, the mailserver as well as the webserver.


Trying to get hold of somone on location, which involves getting hold of
a conference attendee in .nz, in order to find who of the people on-site
I should go hunt down. :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which Graphics Card?

[Holly Bostick]

James Hiscock wrote:
There is no game out there that uses 256 of onboard graphics ram. 
I take it you haven't bothered looking at the requirements for Doom3,
huh? In the highest quality mode, it _requires_ a 512MB video card --
basically because the textures are all loaded uncompressed...
...it's silly...
 Yes, especially since there is no such card available to the best of 
my knowledge (find me a link to a buyable card with 512MB onboard RAM).

Where are you getting this from? According to the Activision support 
(and the Id Software page):

What are the minimum system requirements?
  	Answer
  	Minimum System Requirements
English version of Microsoft Windows 2000/XP
Pentium 4 1.5 GHz or Athlon(tm) XP 1500+ processor
384MB RAM
8x Speed CD-ROM drive (1200KB/sec sustained transfer rate) and latest 
drivers
2.2GB of uncompressed free hard disk space (plus 400MB for Windows swap 
file)
100% DirectXÂ 9.0b compatible 16-bit sound card and latest drivers
100% Windows 2000/XP compatible mouse, keyboard and latest drivers
DirectXÂ 9.0b (included)
3D hardware Accelerator Card Required - 100% DirectXÂ 9.0b compatible 
64MB Hardware Accelerated video card and the latest drivers.

*Important Note: Some 3D accelerator cards with the chipset listed here 
may not be compatible with the 3D accelerator features utilized by Doom 
3. Please refer to your hardware manufacturer for 100% DirectX 9.0b 
compatibility. This product does not support Microsoft Windows 
95/98/ME or NT.

Supported Chipsets
ATIÂ Radeon 8500
ATIÂ Radeon 9000
ATIÂ Radeon 9200
ATIÂ Radeon 9500
ATIÂ Radeon 9600
ATIÂ Radeon 9700
ATIÂ Radeon 9800
All Nvidia GeForce 3/Ti series
All Nvidia GeForce 4MX series
All Nvidia GeForce 4/Ti series
All Nvidia GeForce FX series
Nvidia GeForce 6800 series
And on a personal note, my bf can play Doom 3 (under Windows; I can't 
get it to run, myself) on HQ settings with an ATI 9600 Pro; he doesn't, 
because it's a bit choppy, but that may also be due to his (slowish) 
Celeron or the fact that he runs the software router on our network (so 
any I-net use by me slows his PC down), as well as the fact that the 
video card is not the highest-powered version.

Maybe you mean 512MB system RAM (which most likely is the recommended 
minimum for HQ settings), or maybe you'd need such a video card (if one 
existed) to play Doom 3 Multiplayer at 1600x1200, but otherwise, I think 
you're mistaken.

Holly
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[gentoo-user] Anyone know what has happenned to chinstrap binary project?

[Nick Rout]

The web page http://chinstrap.alternating.net seems to be down, as is
the mailing list at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

chinstrap is an experimental binary package repository.

anyone know whats going on?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternatives to "PermitRootLogin yes"

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Wednesday 09 February 2005 10:29, Robert S wrote:

> Looks interesting.  Could somebody pray tell what "nc" is??

Could you pray read the previous emails? :)
"nc" is the name of netcat executable.

# emerge -s netcat
Searching...
[ Results for search key : netcat ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]

*  net-analyzer/gnu-netcat
  Latest version available: 0.7.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 318 kB
  Homepage:http://netcat.sourceforge.net/
  Description: the GNU network swiss army knife
  License: GPL-2

*  net-analyzer/netcat
  Latest version available: 110-r6
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 94 kB
  Homepage:http://www.securityfocus.com/tools/137
  Description: the network swiss army knife
  License: as-is

There is plenty of documentation.

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Re: [gentoo-user] traceroute graph?

[Karsten Baumgarten]

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xtraceroute (how surprising ;) )
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