Re: [gentoo-user] sharing evolution calendars, kinda

2005-02-17 Thread Frank Schafer
Right, but the thing still isn't in portage ... :-p
(see the last sentence of my post)

Cheerio
Frank

On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 03:50 +, Douglas James Dunn wrote:
 if you use gentoo it would be better to emerge it.  easier to keep it
 updated and everything.
 
 On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 16:03 +0100, Frank Schafer wrote:
  This is how I found it:
  
  www.freshmeat.net
  
  search string: Evolution
  
  Exact match: Evolution (click the link)
  Homepage: http://www.novell.com/products/evolution/ (click the link)
  
  additional information: (click the link)
  
  choose ''Download''
  
  Unstable Release Download  that's it.
  
  It'll take some work to build it. I got everything, built it and
  downloaded additional packages if some configure or make refused because
  of missing/wrong version packages.
  
  That's the Linux way to do such a task (running Slackware in this case).
  Maybe there will be a ebuild some day for the gentoo way.
  
  Regards
  Frank
  
  
  On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 09:21 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
   On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 12:15 +0100, Frank Schafer wrote:
Evolution 2.1.x shares calendars with SM Office, thus I think this will
solve your problem too.

Regards
Frank

   how do i get it?
   
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] find + ls + grep + cp + CLI + Bash madness

2005-02-17 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 08:10, Matt Wilson wrote:
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 daniel wrote:
 | On January 14, 2005 01:19 pm, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 |
 |On Friday 14 January 2005 07:00 am, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | you could probably use:
 |
 |   $ find . -type f -maxdepth 1 -name '*gentoo*' -print0 | \
 | xargs -0 --replace mv {} /path/to/new/dir/
 
 I'm always a little confused as to why people always jump to suggest the
 use of xargs when find's -exec works perfectly well;
 
 $ find . -type f -maxdepth 1 -name *gentoo* -exec mv {}
 /path/to/new/dir/ \;
 
 Is there any particular reason why people would recommend using xargs
 over -exec?
 

I may not be correct, but reading through xargs and some other docs,
suggest that there is a _limit_ on the # of arguments accepted on the
CLI before it gets too many arguments 

Xargs can cut and paste the long list into a few bundles for execution.

Slide and Dice.

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[gentoo-user] Screen + Split screen to moving aroun

2005-02-17 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I need a primer in how to use screen.

I know C-a S makes a split screen. But how can I switch from one window
to the other?

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[gentoo-user] /proc/net/ip_conntrack nonubtroasive! parsing .... anyone

2005-02-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,

there is many tools that parse /proc/net/ip_conntrack and display usefull 
informatom such as :

grep, ipstate, netstat-nat  the problem with this is that the if there is 
many entires in it 
cpu usage skyrockets for long time (in my case for ~1min), which is not 
suitable for 
router/shaper ...
Do u know for a more gentle, non cpu intensive way of fetching connection 
tracking information...

tia


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[gentoo-user] Re: firefox versus duplex (double-sided) printing?

2005-02-17 Thread Botykai Zsolt
-= Eredeti zenet (Original message) =-
Kld (From): Botykai Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cmzett (To): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 currently realised that there is something wrong (for me) with printing from
 firefox.
 My cups setup is a HP 4050 LJ (duplex capable - and set up as every job
 should be printed duplex/long-side) printer via jetdirect. Previously (cca.
 2 months ago) It went seemless from firefox: if I click the print icon it
 printed double-sided.
 But for now it's just wrong: it printed on one sided pages, but
 only_from_firefox_and_mozilla (for example I can simply print double-sided
 from OO.org) which makes me pretty nervous, cause I must print a lot, and
 single-sided printing is not an option. 
 I couldn't find any option for this in about:config.
 Tried this printing command:
 lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} -o
 sides=two-sided-long-edge
 but it didn't work.
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Things gettting wronger :-(
Just realised that acroread doesn't want to print double-sided too :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen + Split screen to moving aroun

2005-02-17 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 02/17/05 Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:

 I need a primer in how to use screen.

 I know C-a S makes a split screen. But how can I switch from one window
 to the other?

C-a TAB

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen + Split screen to moving aroun

2005-02-17 Thread Dirk Raeder
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Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 I need a primer in how to use screen.
 
 I know C-a S makes a split screen. But how can I switch from one window
 to the other?
man screen says

C-a ' Prompt for a window name or number to switch to
C-a  Show a list of currently open windows to select
C-a 0 ... C-a 9 Select window 0-9
C-a C clear this screen
C-a C-D Detach screen (reattach with screen -r)
and several other keybindings.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen + Split screen to moving aroun

2005-02-17 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 02/17/05 Dirk Raeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:

 Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 I need a primer in how to use screen.
 
 I know C-a S makes a split screen. But how can I switch from one window
 to the other?
 man screen says

 C-a ' Prompt for a window name or number to switch to
 C-a  Show a list of currently open windows to select
 C-a 0 ... C-a 9 Select window 0-9
 C-a C clear this screen
 C-a C-D Detach screen (reattach with screen -r)
 and several other keybindings.


[...]

Actually, when a *window* is split, what you have then is called *regions*
if I understand correctly screen's language. So in man screen the answer
to that question is to look for with keyword region.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage alternating between upgrade and downgrade of media-libs/gst-plugins [solved].

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Daevid Vincent wrote:
I finally figured out why portage keeps fluctuating between upgrading and
downgrading these packages. It seems that every time I upgrade system or
world, it isn't the right version. *sigh*
I added '-t' to my emerge and discovered a package that isn't in my keywords
file.
daevid edb # emerge -Davut world
These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[nomerge  ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.7-r1  
[nomerge  ]  media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.7  +alsa -debug +esd +oss 
[nomerge  ]   media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.8.5  
[ebuild UD]media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.5-r1 [0.8.7] +alsa -debug +esd
+oss 0 kB 

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
My /etc/portage/package.keywords contains
media-libs/gstreamer ~x86
media-libs/gst-plugins ~x86
Adding media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis to the file made it stop being so
obnoxious.
So the real question is, is this a 'bug' or 'feature request' for portage.
It seems it should have warned me somehow that -vorbis- isn't masked, yet
the other packages are. 

Masking has nothing to do with it, except by accident, afaik. I had this 
problem myself, and it seemed to be due to some of the gstreamer plugins 
being updated, and some not.

The gst-plugins package and the specific gstreamer plugins such as the 
vorbis plugin are related both to each other and the gstreamer version.

As you see, both gstreamer and the plugins package are available in 
version 0.8.7, but the vorbis package is only available in version 0.8.5 
(before ~masking comes into play), which is linked to the gst-plugins 
package. The individual plugin and the gst-plugins package must be the 
same version, but the gst-plugins package also wants to be the same 
version as gstreamer. This is why the gst-plugins package keeps trying 
to upgrade, to match the gstreamer version, then downgrade, to match the 
vorbis plugin version.

Your solution to this is 'correct', since the vorbis plugin is the 
'problem'.

I don't see it as a bug, maybe a feature request (although I'd think 
it's fairly questionable). Vorbis support is, after all, optional, and 
optional means that you are supposed to be paying attention to how it 
relates to the main trunk feature. If you're already manually unmasking 
gstreamer and gstplugins, it seems reasonable that you the user should 
also manually confirm the status of the optional features you choose and 
unmask them manually as well.

The only 'issue' I see that might be a bug is gst-plugin's connection to 
both lower versions of individual plugins, and higher versions of 
gstreamer that do not support the lower version plugins. But I don't 
know enough about gstreamer to know if that's not right or an 
upstream problem or an ebuild issue. I find it weird, but then again, 
one should really not be using lower-version plugins with a higher 
version of gstreamer anyway, so while it may not be right, one should 
practically not be encountering this problem anyway (but rather the 
problem of reduced function while the plugin is unavailable, which does 
fall under feature request, except that the devs were very good about 
getting the plugins updated to conform with the gstreamer version within 
a couple of days, from what I saw).

Is there any further information on b.g.o, such as previously submitted 
bugs to this effect?

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Giving a user his own partition

2005-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:59:24 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 My problem right now is that I'd like to mount /dev/sda8/herb under
 /home/herb but I don't know how to mount the directory there. I also
 don't know how to mount the top of the drive under /home/herb and give
 him write access.

The root of a partiton belongs to the user that mounted, whjich is root if
it was mounted from fstab. Check out the uid and gid options in man mount
to mount it as a different user. You need something like

/dev/hdX /home/herb ext3 uid=xxx,gid=yyy,other,options 0 0

 There's a lost+found directory he'd see that I'd
 prefer he didn't, etc.

Delete it, it's not needed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Giving a user his own partition

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:59:24 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
My problem right now is that I'd like to mount /dev/sda8/herb under
/home/herb but I don't know how to mount the directory there. I also
don't know how to mount the top of the drive under /home/herb and give
him write access.
The root of a partiton belongs to the user that mounted, whjich is root if
it was mounted from fstab. Check out the uid and gid options in man mount
to mount it as a different user. You need something like
/dev/hdX /home/herb ext3 uid=xxx,gid=yyy,other,options 0 0
I thought that the uid= and gid= options were specific to vfat 
partitions (at least that's what man mount says).

Is this not the case? If so, it would make my life much easier than the 
way I've been handling ext3 and reiser3 mounts to make them user-owned


There's a lost+found directory he'd see that I'd
prefer he didn't, etc.
Delete it, it's not needed.
As long as it's empty, of course. If there's stuff in it, you might want 
to make sure there's nothing that needs saving/moving before deleting 
the directory.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] sharing evolution calendars, kinda

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Frank Schafer wrote:
Right, but the thing still isn't in portage ... :-p
(see the last sentence of my post)
Cheerio
Frank
No, but it is in the BreakMyGentoo tree, which you can use as an 
overlay, so it would still be known to and managed by Portage, and 
(hopefully) all the dependencies would also be available from that tree.

Naturally, these are highly unstable packages, but for limited use, you 
might be able to get away with it, if you really need this version that 
badly and can't wait until it moves into main Portage.

www.breakmygentoo.net
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Re: [gentoo-user] find + ls + grep + cp + CLI + Bash madness

2005-02-17 Thread Stroller
On Feb 17, 2005, at 8:42 am, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 08:10, Matt Wilson wrote:
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daniel wrote:
| On January 14, 2005 01:19 pm, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
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|On Friday 14 January 2005 07:00 am, Ow Mun Heng 
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| you could probably use:
|
|   $ find . -type f -maxdepth 1 -name '*gentoo*' -print0 | \
| xargs -0 --replace mv {} /path/to/new/dir/

I'm always a little confused as to why people always jump to suggest 
the
use of xargs when find's -exec works perfectly well;

$ find . -type f -maxdepth 1 -name *gentoo* -exec mv {}
/path/to/new/dir/ \;
Is there any particular reason why people would recommend using xargs
over -exec?
I may not be correct, but reading through xargs and some other docs,
suggest that there is a _limit_ on the # of arguments accepted on the
CLI before it gets too many arguments
It can also be much faster - I use xargs in a script which finds all 
files in $MAILDIR/$JUNK newer than .bogofilter/wordlist.db and calls 
bogofilter with the add to spam database flags, then does the same 
thing in all non-junk directories, adding to the ham database.

Using `find -newerthan whatever -print0 | xargs -0 bogofilter -s -v -B 
` completes in seconds a database rebuild (working upon thousands  
thousands of messages) that takes over 40 minutes using `find 
-newerthan  whatever -exec bogofilter -n -v -B \{} \;`.

I also believe that xargs saves problems with whitespace  quoting in 
the filename.

Stroller.
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[gentoo-user] wvdial not writing to /etc/resolv.conf

2005-02-17 Thread Nick Rout
I only occasionally use my laptop for dialup, I use it mainly through
the home lan or office lan. Therefore before I go away somewhere I test
wvdial to make sure it is still working.

I tried it tonight and it connected ok, but didn't write the nameserver
lines from the ISP into /etc/resolv.conf. Logging shows the ISP
definitely doled them out. And they DO get written
to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf, but thats not much use for resolving dns. 

I have done a quick hack by adding a line 

cp /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf

to /etc/ppp/ip-up, but as I say that is a quick hack and I would like
the system to work properly

I am a lazy sod and running wvdial as root, so permissions should not be
a problem. root is also in the uucp and dialout groups, just for good
measure!

according to man wvdial, auto dns should be on by default, and there is
nothing in /etc/wvdial.conf to turn it off.

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[gentoo-user] OT - making thick tiffs in GS from vectorial pdfs

2005-02-17 Thread Antoine
Hi,
I can't seem to find any parameters for the algorithm for the tiff
devices that would enable me to thicken the lines produced in the tiff
(i.e., more than one pixel across for a line, I understand that GS is
doing the right thing, just wanted to make the tiff look more like the
pdf-without-smoothing, seeing as the client isn't as image-savvy as we
are!). I am assuming that this is possible just by passing a
parameter... If not, any other tools do this? I assume I can do this
with imagemagick.
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Re: [gentoo-user] X and I855GM

2005-02-17 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
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And of course you need to compile xorg-x11 with the opengl USE-Flag,
and I recommend xv, too, to get proper acceleration.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Giving a user his own partition

2005-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:06:51 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:

  The root of a partiton belongs to the user that mounted, whjich is
  root if it was mounted from fstab. Check out the uid and gid options
  in man mount to mount it as a different user. You need something like
  
  /dev/hdX /home/herb ext3 uid=xxx,gid=yyy,other,options 0 0
 
 I thought that the uid= and gid= options were specific to vfat 
 partitions (at least that's what man mount says).

You're right, but I hit this problem once and fixed it. Maybe it was as
simple as setting ownership of the mount point before attempting to mount
the partition.


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[gentoo-user] which /etc/devfsd.conf

2005-02-17 Thread D.Wilkening
Hi,

after having some trouble using dvb-t (Computer #1 working, computer #2
not) i found, that the /etc/devfsd.conf is managed by two packages:

#sh: qpkg -f /etc/devfsd.conf
sys-apps/baselayout *
sys-fs/devfsd *

both configs differ a lot, so that with baselayout installed as last pkg,
devfs will not create /dev/dvb/adapter0 and so on.

is this a bug or is it normal? If it is normal, which default-config
should i use as a start?




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Re: [gentoo-user] Giving a user his own partition

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:06:51 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
The root of a partiton belongs to the user that mounted, whjich is
root if it was mounted from fstab. Check out the uid and gid options
in man mount to mount it as a different user. You need something like
/dev/hdX /home/herb ext3 uid=xxx,gid=yyy,other,options 0 0
I thought that the uid= and gid= options were specific to vfat 
partitions (at least that's what man mount says).
You're right, but I hit this problem once and fixed it. Maybe it was as
simple as setting ownership of the mount point before attempting to mount
the partition.

Yes, that's how I do it for ext3 (and also ext3 has a groupid option 
that was useful). For Reiser, I seem to have to set the mount point 
permissions, then one time have root go in after the partition is 
mounted, and recursively change the permissions for all the files, and 
then it never gives me any more problems (subsequent mounts are correct 
in terms of ownership).

I do wish it was as simple as uid= for other partition types, though.
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Re: [gentoo-user] LISA problems

2005-02-17 Thread David Corbin
For the record, I've found that help:lisa in konqueror gives some reasonable 
help on the config file. (But it's still inexcusable that it silently fails 
with no config file, and a mistake not to provide a default one).

David

On Wednesday 16 February 2005 08:50 pm, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:39:17 -0500

 David Corbin wrote:
  On Wednesday 16 February 2005 07:25 pm, Nick Rout wrote:
   is the config file (somewhere in /etc) right?
 
  I cannot find one.  /etc/conf.d/lisa comments make it look like it should
  be in /etc/lisarc, but it's not there.  Where can I find sample and/or
  documentation.

 I remember having to google to find it. here is mine. dunno where i
 found out how to do it. qpkg -f /etc/lisarc returns nothing, so there
 seems to be no default installed. Maybe there is something in the kde
 docos?

 SecondWait = -1
 SearchUsingNmblookup = 0
 DeliverUnnamedHosts = 0
 FirstWait = 30
 MaxPingsAtOnce = 256
 UpdatePeriod = 300
 PingAddresses = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0;
 AllowedAddresses = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0;
 BroadcastNetwork = 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0;
 PingNames =


 obviously your LAN address range may differ.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen + Split screen to moving aroun

2005-02-17 Thread Robert Svoboda
* Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-02-17 09:50]:
 I know C-a S makes a split screen. But how can I switch from
 one window to the other?

C-a TAB

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Re: [gentoo-user] find + ls + grep + cp + CLI + Bash madness

2005-02-17 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Stroller ha scritto:
[snip]
I also believe that xargs saves problems with whitespace  quoting in 
the filename.

Stroller.
this is valid for -exec too () try
# find path/ -exec ls -ld {} \;
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Re: [gentoo-user] Error in the emerge of gpm-1.20.1

2005-02-17 Thread Jason Cooper
John Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Wednesday 16 February 2005 09:32, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Dave Nebinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
My questions are :

a. Why is this happening (i.e. is this a bug, or a misconfiguration on 
my
side)
b. How should I fix this ?
   
   Don't believe it's a bug, but then I'm not running emacs so I don't have
   that use flag set.
   
   You could try an env-update, which would rebuild the ld cache and might
   resolve it.
  
  This is happening because the newest versions of X.org have moved a
  bunch of files around.  Partly for FHS compliance, and partly other
  reasons.  
  
  It looks like a path was hard-coded into the package.  Try re-merging
  gpm while the new X.org is installed.  That should fix it.  
 
 But re-merge emacs first. Emacs is the one that's broken. I had this problem 
 already.

Yeah, you're right.  I'll chalk that fumble up to a bad case of the flu
:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Error Messages while Booting

2005-02-17 Thread derek tracy
I know this is a little late to bring this up but in case you or
someone else has not found closure on this issue.

This happens when both udev and devfs are activated.  You can fix it
by disabling devfs or configuring your kernel to not automatically
mount devfs at boot time and passing the following argument to your
kernel at load time

gentoo=nodevfs

I hope this helps someone.


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 Hi 
 
   
 
 I have some following error message while loading the services I dont know
 how to fix: 
 
 . 
 
 Releasing dhcp Lease for eth0   [ok] 
 
Error calling unlink in Global 
 
Error calling unlink in Global 
 
   
 
 . 
 
   
 
 Setting user fonts
 [ok] 
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking vcs4 
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking  vcsa4  
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking  vcs5 
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking  vcsa5 
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking  vcs6 
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking  vcsa6 
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking  vcs7 
 
 Action_compat; error  unlinking  vcsa7 
 
   
 
 Any Idea Please? 
 
   
 
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[gentoo-user] 2 mice

2005-02-17 Thread Luke Albers
I have posted similar messages at multiple places with no response, so
I'm hoping someone here might have something to say.

I got a USB I-Pen Pro (it's a usb mouse that is shaped like a pen, with
the left mouse button being the pen tip).  I configured XF86Config to
use 2 mice.  The only thing that I can think of with my configuration
here is that maybe the protocol isn't IMPS/2.

Anyway, I started X, which came up.  My dockapps never loaded (i'm using
windowmaker), and I
have a small titlebar near the middle of the screen that says windows
or maybe it was just window.  It looked kind of like a titlebar for a
drop down menu.  I was able to move the pointer with both my mouse and
the I-Pen, but I could not click on anything with either mouse.  I
eventually had to kill X and revert back to my old XF86Config file.

I asked the windowmaker list first because of the dockapps not
loading and the strange titlebar on screen, which made me think it might
have been a windowmaker-related issue.  I guess it could also be a
problem with my xorg configuration, or the protocol im using like I said
earlier.  If anyone can offer any
advice, please reply.  

thanks


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[gentoo-user] spamassassin 3 does no bayes filtering?

2005-02-17 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
Hi all,

just finished upgrading my spamassassin installation to version 3.0.2 and 
it seems to work fine, but with one exception: I think it does not use any 
bayes filtering. IIRC there was some info on bayes filters in every spam 
mail with spamassassin-2.x, but I can't see them any more in my mails.

Do you have any ideas on this?
Greetings and TIA, Matthias

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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: top illegal instruction with 2.6.10-r6 SMP kernel

2005-02-17 Thread Jesse Guardiani
A. Khattri wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
 
  Also is your System.map for the current kernel under /boot on the
  problem box?

 Yes.
 
 Ive seen this problem on a RedHat box and that was due to upgrading some
 components but not others. I think I rebooted after some upgrades to fix
 it...

I think I remember the Gentoo 2004.3 LiveCD exhibits the same behavior
on this system. I'll have to check that out and make sure...

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious lockups

2005-02-17 Thread Matt Garman
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 08:27:42AM -0800, Bob Sanders wrote:
 Typically it's the graphics drivers hanging the AGP bus.  But you
 didn't memtion if you were running xscreensaver.  If you're
 running xscreensaver, do - 
 Then, when it hang again, ssh in and killall xscreensaver.

Well, a lockup happened again last night (of course *not* while I
was using the computer).  Funny thing is, I can ping the locked
machine, and it responds as though everything was okay.  But I
cannot ssh into the computer.  ssh does not timeout (like it would
if the host were down); after I type ssh host and press enter, it
just sits there---I let it sit there for about 30 minutes before I
got impatient and hard-rebooted the machine.

But, FWIW, I am running xscreensaver.

 Look in /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
 ...
 If you have SBA and Fast Writes on, try turning them
 off - /etc/modules.d/nvidia

I'm hesitant to try this, only because the lockups are so random.
It's been almost two weeks since it last happened; I have a feeling
that I could get lucky and it won't happen again forever (or it
could happen in the next five minutes).  Either way, it's hard to
determine the solution when I make a change and then just wait.

 For general system testing - not graphics, but it will rule out
 other hardware problems, there is - app-benchmarks/stress.
 ...
 For Gfx issues, I typically, run - x11-misc/rss-glx by launching 3
 ...

Yup, I think this ought to be my next step, to see if I can
consistently duplicate the problem.

checks the Really Slick Screensavers hompage  Wow.  Those look
awesome!  Stress testing that is both productive AND entertaining!

 The other useful tool I've found is setiathome.  It doesn't do
 anythign for Gfx testing, but it does help out in keeping the cpu,
 cpu bus, memory bus, and ide/scsi bus active enough to remove
 doubts that those might be a problem.

I've had setiathome running on this machine since I built it over a
year ago, so perhaps that's another indicator that the problem is
graphics related.

Another side note: I have another computer running on virtuall the
same hardware, with which I use the same kernel, etc.  X11 does seem
to lock up from time to time on this machine, but I can still ssh in
and kill/reset processes as needed.

Thanks again!
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RE: [gentoo-user] mysterious lockups

2005-02-17 Thread Dave Nebinger
 On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 08:27:42AM -0800, Bob Sanders wrote:
  Typically it's the graphics drivers hanging the AGP bus.  But you
  didn't memtion if you were running xscreensaver.  If you're
  running xscreensaver, do -
  Then, when it hang again, ssh in and killall xscreensaver.
 
 Well, a lockup happened again last night (of course *not* while I
 was using the computer).  Funny thing is, I can ping the locked
 machine, and it responds as though everything was okay.  But I
 cannot ssh into the computer.  ssh does not timeout (like it would
 if the host were down); after I type ssh host and press enter, it
 just sits there---I let it sit there for about 30 minutes before I
 got impatient and hard-rebooted the machine.

Ssh will react like this when there is significant load on the target
machine.  Same thing happened to me when I had an ebuild that started
forking like crazy.  The system was so busy spawning and reclaiming
processes that it appeared to freeze (even the screen saver was stuck).

Are the lockups occurring at a consistent time?  If so, you might be able to
track down a cron or at task that might be hammering your system...

 
  Look in /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/card
  ...
  If you have SBA and Fast Writes on, try turning them
  off - /etc/modules.d/nvidia
 
 I'm hesitant to try this, only because the lockups are so random.
 It's been almost two weeks since it last happened; I have a feeling
 that I could get lucky and it won't happen again forever (or it
 could happen in the next five minutes).  Either way, it's hard to
 determine the solution when I make a change and then just wait.

My lockups were from the nvidia drivers.  Swapped out nvidia for a radeon
card and had no lockups since.

So do give this a try; if it eliminates the lockups then it will be well
worth it for you.



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[gentoo-user] Monitor stability of HDD which has no SMART support

2005-02-17 Thread Qiangning Hong
I have a SAMBA server running.  The hard disk is a ATA-1 flash drive
which does not support S.M.A.R.T.  However, I still want to know it's
stablity status. Actually, according to the customer requirement, it
should generate an alarm message everytime a non-correctable error has
occurred.

The data partition is a reiserfs partition.  If an error occurs, will
reiserfs record the error in a log file somewhere?  If so, is it
sufficient to monitor the log file and find the pattern of error
message string to achieve my goal?

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Re: [gentoo-user] wvdial not writing to /etc/resolv.conf

2005-02-17 Thread Robert Crawford
On Thursday 17 February 2005 05:42 am, Nick Rout wrote:
 I only occasionally use my laptop for dialup, I use it mainly through
 the home lan or office lan. Therefore before I go away somewhere I test
 wvdial to make sure it is still working.

 I tried it tonight and it connected ok, but didn't write the nameserver
 lines from the ISP into /etc/resolv.conf. Logging shows the ISP
 definitely doled them out. And they DO get written
 to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf, but thats not much use for resolving dns.

 I have done a quick hack by adding a line

 cp /etc/ppp/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf

 to /etc/ppp/ip-up, but as I say that is a quick hack and I would like
 the system to work properly

 I am a lazy sod and running wvdial as root, so permissions should not be
 a problem. root is also in the uucp and dialout groups, just for good
 measure!

 according to man wvdial, auto dns should be on by default, and there is
 nothing in /etc/wvdial.conf to turn it off.

 Ideas anyone?

This sounds like something that used to happen to me (last summer) after I 
updated ppp  when I was on dialup. I could log on to my isp, but suddenly 
couldn't access any web sites (couldn't resolve a dns). There is a fix on the 
Gentoo forum somewhere, that has to do with the /etc/ppp/ip-up shell script 
update not creating (or assigning) the right permissions to resolv.conf. You 
had to go in and add a chmod 644 line to the ip-up file, IIRC.  I think this 
was eventually fixed with a subsequent update- have you updated the ppp stuff 
lately? 

OK- Now I remember. Check these 2 threads out- they might help.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=188201highlight=resolv+conf+permissions

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-181001-highlight-.html

The fix is this edit, in the /etc/ppp/ip-up script:
---
 # backup the old configuration and install the new one 
cp -a $REALRESOLVCONF $REALRESOLVCONF.pppd-backup 
mv $REALRESOLVCONF.tmp $REALRESOLVCONF 
 # Hmmm $REALRESOLVCONF is 600, fix it. 
chmod 0644 $REALRESOLVCONF 
 
fi 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - genkernel and NFS

2005-02-17 Thread Mike Williams
On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:01, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 Do genkernels have NFS support turned on by default?

Yes, compiled in.

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[gentoo-user] Soft power off lost

2005-02-17 Thread Ducky Z.
I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.10-morph21 and my notebook now stops at
Power Down when halting. It used to turn itself off automatically
with my previous kernel. Any help is highly appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 mice

2005-02-17 Thread Bob Sanders
 I got a USB I-Pen Pro (it's a usb mouse that is shaped like a pen, with
 the left mouse button being the pen tip).  I configured XF86Config to
 use 2 mice.  The only thing that I can think of with my configuration
 here is that maybe the protocol isn't IMPS/2.


Technically, yes, you should configure 2 seperate mice.  However, you don't have
to.  I suggest configuring your main mouse - insure that it works, then just
plug in the I-pen and see if it works as well.  It'll use the same settings
as the main mouse.  But you won't necessarily have all, if any, extra features
that are supported.  But it's useful to insure all the other software works
from a base perspective.  If you're lazy, like me, then you'll leave it
this way if it works well enough to not be annoying.
 
 Anyway, I started X, which came up.  My dockapps never loaded (i'm using
 windowmaker), and I
 have a small titlebar near the middle of the screen that says windows
 or maybe it was just window.  It looked kind of like a titlebar for a
 drop down menu.  I was able to move the pointer with both my mouse and
 the I-Pen, but I could not click on anything with either mouse.  I
 eventually had to kill X and revert back to my old XF86Config file.


Can't help here.  Only suggest trying another Window Manager to verify with.
You'll probably need something with a dock, perhaps Xcfe?  (Not sure, I hate
docking bars, waste of screen space, thus no experience with any of them.)
 
Bob
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[gentoo-user] starting custom scripts/applications at boot time

2005-02-17 Thread Zbynek Houska
Hello,

I wonder how to start a custom application at boot time.

I have webcam using binary called webcam.

When I start it issuing webcam  /var/log/webcam.log 21 

it works fine

but adding following with sleep 60 into /etc/conf.d/local.start causes
webcam grabing few images and hanging.

This shows up in logs:

Feb 17 17:08:04 labcam pwc This Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000 camera is
equipped with a Sony CCD sensor + Exas 98L59 (46).
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 36.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 37.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 38.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 39.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 40.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 41.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 42.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 43.
Feb 17 17:08:10 labcam pwc Dumping frame 44.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 45.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 46.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 47.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 48.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 49.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 50.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 51.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 52.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 53.
Feb 17 17:08:11 labcam pwc Dumping frame 54.
Feb 17 17:08:12 labcam pwc Dumping frame 55 (last message).


Thanks in advance for any hints

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs raid 0

2005-02-17 Thread Frank Schafer
mount -t ntfs?

On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 18:28 +0200, PK wrote:
 I have 3 ntfs  raid 0 partitions
 
 How do I mount them ?
 
 
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[gentoo-user] --newuse does it work?

2005-02-17 Thread Gareth Hastings
Hello,

Could anyone tell me if 

emerge -newuse package


Actually works? I've tried it after I've changed my use flags but it
didn't appear to work.

Thanks

Gareth

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Re: [gentoo-user] sharing evolution calendars, kinda

2005-02-17 Thread Frank Schafer
Well, thanks ... but:

(from the Breakmygentoo.net Howto)
...
Point your browser to BreakMyGentoo. Under the Ebuilds area you will
find a directory listing of downloadable Ebuilds that are at your
disposal - pick the one you'd like, and proceed to save it.
...

there is no Ebuilds area :(


On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 11:11 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Frank Schafer wrote:
  Right, but the thing still isn't in portage ... :-p
  (see the last sentence of my post)
  
  Cheerio
  Frank
  
 
 No, but it is in the BreakMyGentoo tree, which you can use as an 
 overlay, so it would still be known to and managed by Portage, and 
 (hopefully) all the dependencies would also be available from that tree.
 
 Naturally, these are highly unstable packages, but for limited use, you 
 might be able to get away with it, if you really need this version that 
 badly and can't wait until it moves into main Portage.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mpg joiner

2005-02-17 Thread Jan Oppolzer
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:43:31 +0100, Christian Johansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 does anyone know of any mpg/avi joining program in portage? To join
 two files into one (when a movie is clipped for instance)?

try avimerge (it's in transcode package) or if you prefer gui try avidemux..

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Re: [gentoo-user] --newuse does it work?

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Gareth Hastings wrote:
Hello,
Could anyone tell me if 

emerge -newuse package
Actually works? I've tried it after I've changed my use flags but it
didn't appear to work.
Thanks
Gareth
Did the package you tried to re-emerge actually use any of the USE flags 
you changed? The most common use for --newuse is emerge --newuse 
(--update) world, to re-emerge all packages that use the new flags.

If you're just changing the flags for one package, you might as well 
just change the flags (either in /etc/make.conf or in 
/etc/portage/package.use) and just re-emerge the package normally.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs raid 0

2005-02-17 Thread Joel Merrick
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 17:23 +0100, Frank Schafer wrote:
 mount -t ntfs?
 
 On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 18:28 +0200, PK wrote:
  I have 3 ntfs  raid 0 partitions

If it's hardware RAID it'd probably be just a mount.

If it's software raid (via volumes) then you'll probably need dynamic
volume support in your kernel (or something)

Dunno, never tried. :S

  
  How do I mount them ?
  
  
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RE: [gentoo-user] --newuse does it work?

2005-02-17 Thread Gareth Hastings
 Did the package you tried to re-emerge actually use any of the USE
flags
 you changed? The most common use for --newuse is emerge --newuse
 (--update) world, to re-emerge all packages that use the new flags.

Yes it did or at least I'm sure it should! Is there anyway to find out?

I was re-emerging PHP and mod_php with the use flag mssql.

I checked afterwards with

# equery uses php

[ Searching for packages matching php... ]
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend: Left column  (U) - USE flags from make.conf  ]
[   : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
[ Found these USE variables for dev-php/php-4.3.10 ]
 U I
+ + mssql   : Adds support for Microsoft SQL Server database

The mssql bit shows up red.

But if I do a phpinfo();  it shows me the configure statement had
'--without-mssql' in it.

So maybe php is unaffected by the use flag mssql?


 
 If you're just changing the flags for one package, you might as well
 just change the flags (either in /etc/make.conf or in
 /etc/portage/package.use) and just re-emerge the package normally.
 
 Holly
 

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] --newuse does it work?

2005-02-17 Thread Karsten Baumgarten
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The --newuse option only makes sense when it is used for the world or
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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs raid 0

2005-02-17 Thread PK
Frank Schafer wrote:
mount -t ntfs?
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 18:28 +0200, PK wrote:
I have 3 ntfs  raid 0 partitions
How do I mount them ?
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no go on that one houston.
It doesnt seem to like it for some reason :/
any other ideas?
Thanks for your trouble

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Re: [gentoo-user] sharing evolution calendars, kinda

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Frank Schafer wrote:
Well, thanks ... but:
(from the Breakmygentoo.net Howto)
...
Point your browser to BreakMyGentoo. Under the Ebuilds area you will
find a directory listing of downloadable Ebuilds that are at your
disposal - pick the one you'd like, and proceed to save it.
...
there is no Ebuilds area :(
This must be outdated. As I said, the best way to use breakmygentoo is 
to set it as an overlay. That way, you can be sure you will have the 
support files and libraries needed for the main application available as 
well.

Instructions are found here: http://breakmygentoo.net/archives/cat_help.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs raid 0

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
PK wrote:
Frank Schafer wrote:
mount -t ntfs?
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 18:28 +0200, PK wrote:
I have 3 ntfs  raid 0 partitions
How do I mount them ?
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no go on that one houston.
It doesnt seem to like it for some reason :/

And what would the reason be (i.e., what is the error message)?
any other ideas?
Not without knowing what's going wrong in the first place.
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Re: [gentoo-user] --newuse does it work?

2005-02-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Gareth Hastings wrote:
Did the package you tried to re-emerge actually use any of the USE
flags
you changed? The most common use for --newuse is emerge --newuse
(--update) world, to re-emerge all packages that use the new flags.
Yes it did or at least I'm sure it should! Is there anyway to find out?

emerge -pv php.
The -v stands for verbose and will list the USE flags for the package, 
as well as indicating their status (enabled or disabled). The -p is of 
course pretend, so you don't have to actually do the emerge before 
making any adjustments you might want.


I was re-emerging PHP and mod_php with the use flag mssql.
I checked afterwards with
# equery uses php
[ Searching for packages matching php... ]
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend: Left column  (U) - USE flags from make.conf  ]
[   : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
[ Found these USE variables for dev-php/php-4.3.10 ]
 U I
+ + mssql   : Adds support for Microsoft SQL Server database
The mssql bit shows up red.
If there's a + in both the use flags from make.conf, and in the use 
flags the package was installed with, then naturally --newuse wouldn't 
have done anything, because the flag hasn't changed (equery indicates 
that the package was already installed with mssql support).

But if I do a phpinfo();  it shows me the configure statement had
'--without-mssql' in it.
So maybe php is unaffected by the use flag mssql?
It should be affected; I just looked at the eclass that the ebuild 
inherits and mssql is certainly there. I wonder if some more fundamental 
aspect of mssql is not present for this to be happening. But don't take 
my word for it; I know nothing about php or any form of SQL. It just 
seems like something else must be broken for this to have happened to you.

I don't use equery so much that I know what its color scheme is supposed 
to mean, but my guess is that equery is saying something similar-- the 
support was compiled, but isn't working for some reason (maybe mssql 
support was not *successfully* compiled, though the application as a 
whole was).

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RE: [gentoo-user] --newuse does it work?

2005-02-17 Thread Ivan Yosifov
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 16:47 +, Gareth Hastings wrote:
  Did the package you tried to re-emerge actually use any of the USE
 flags
  you changed? The most common use for --newuse is emerge --newuse
  (--update) world, to re-emerge all packages that use the new flags.
 
 Yes it did or at least I'm sure it should! Is there anyway to find out?
 
 I was re-emerging PHP and mod_php with the use flag mssql.
 
 I checked afterwards with
 
 # equery uses php
 
 [ Searching for packages matching php... ]
 [ Colour Code : set unset ]
 [ Legend: Left column  (U) - USE flags from make.conf  ]
 [   : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
 [ Found these USE variables for dev-php/php-4.3.10 ]
  U I
 + + mssql   : Adds support for Microsoft SQL Server database
 
 The mssql bit shows up red.
 
 But if I do a phpinfo();  it shows me the configure statement had
 '--without-mssql' in it.
 
 So maybe php is unaffected by the use flag mssql?
 
 
  
  If you're just changing the flags for one package, you might as well
  just change the flags (either in /etc/make.conf or in
  /etc/portage/package.use) and just re-emerge the package normally.
  
  Holly
  
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Giving a user his own partition

2005-02-17 Thread Mike Noble
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| On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:06:51 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
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|The root of a partiton belongs to the user that mounted, whjich is
|root if it was mounted from fstab. Check out the uid and gid options
|in man mount to mount it as a different user. You need something like
|
|/dev/hdX /home/herb ext3 uid=xxx,gid=yyy,other,options 0 0
|
|I thought that the uid= and gid= options were specific to vfat
|partitions (at least that's what man mount says).
|
|
| You're right, but I hit this problem once and fixed it. Maybe it was as
| simple as setting ownership of the mount point before attempting to mount
| the partition.
|
|
Once the filesystem is mounted, you can set the ownership and
permissions to whatever you want (as root).  Then just and the
entry to the /etc/fstab and each time it is mounted it will have
those permissions.
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Soft power off lost

2005-02-17 Thread Chris Cox
Ducky Z. wrote:
I've upgraded my kernel to 2.6.10-morph21 and my notebook now stops at
Power Down when halting. It used to turn itself off automatically
with my previous kernel. Any help is highly appreciated.
 

How did you upgrade your kernel?  Did you use your previous working 
.config file settings?

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[gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs

2005-02-17 Thread Antoine
Hi,
I had a google but didn't find anything. Anyone know of any 
investigations trying to measure ntfs vs other *nix fss? I know that it 
is a bit like comparing apples with oranges but might be nice.
Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] --newuse does it work?

2005-02-17 Thread Stefan Onken
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2005 18:17 schrieb Ivan Yosifov:

 Or maybe you need to manually enable mssql in the php config.

 grep mssql /etc/php/apache2-php4/php.ini

;extension=php_mssql.dll
mssql.allow_persistent = On
mssql.max_persistent = -1
mssql.max_links = -1
mssql.min_error_severity = 10
mssql.min_message_severity = 10
mssql.compatability_mode = Off
;mssql.connect_timeout = 5
;mssql.timeout = 60
;mssql.textlimit = 4096
;mssql.textsize = 4096
;mssql.batchsize = 0
;mssql.datetimeconvert = On
mssql.secure_connection = Off
;mssql.max_procs = 25

it looks so, the first line is comment out. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] perl: ithreads USER flag?

2005-02-17 Thread Rumen Yotov
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| Looking for reasons not to, first...
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Hi,
Yes using ~x86 and libperlperl with ithreads USE-flag.
No problems for 2-3 months. Make sure you use it for both.
HTH
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RE: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs

2005-02-17 Thread Dave Nebinger
 I had a google but didn't find anything. Anyone know of any
 investigations trying to measure ntfs vs other *nix fss? I know that it
 is a bit like comparing apples with oranges but might be nice.

Last I heard write support to ntfs was still classified as experimental.  I
don't know that I'd want to use it even if the performance was tens of times
faster than other unix filesystems.

That said, I would have to guess that with the amount of emulation needed to
ensure the ntfs partition would be compatible with windows the performance,
at best, would be on par with unix filesystems but, more likely, would not
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[gentoo-user] Solved: proftpd 1.2.10(-r1,-r2) segfaulting due to mod_delay, excessive delays

2005-02-17 Thread fire-eyes
I was not able to turn off mod_delay per the instructions, so my
solution was to edit the ebuild to not attempt to build mod_delay
support.

Apparently this has been solved on proftpd's side:

http://bugs.proftpd.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2540

I have commented to the appropriate gentoo bugs.

At this time I don't think running grsecurity had anything to do with
the issue, as I see it both on 2.6.10 and 2.6.10-as2-grsec-20050124.
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Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs vs *nix fs

2005-02-17 Thread Bob Sanders
 I had a google but didn't find anything. Anyone know of any 
 investigations trying to measure ntfs vs other *nix fss? I know that it 
 is a bit like comparing apples with oranges but might be nice.

NTFS is a variation of VAX/VMS' original filesystem.  Internally
at DEC it was known as ODS2 (On Disk Structure 2).  NTFS is a 
simplified version of this, keeping the ACL and journaling abilites
while eliminating some of the more useful (IMO) features - auto-versioning.

As to comparing it...NTFS is a robust filesystem, but it's not usable
under Linux...well fully usable.  And under WinXX, the os limits it's
usability.  If you wish a real version, I suggest OpenVMS.

As to performance, WinXX, in some versions, has this idle loop that
limits all filesystem i/o performance.

Personally, the more interesting filesystems are - BeOS, RiserFS,
and XFS.  But BeOS is still being re-implemented on Linux, thus is
a bit raw at the moment.

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[gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Grant
I've started logging each page request made to my site as an entry in
a MySQL table.  I get about 5000 page requests per day, and I wonder
if I'm asking to much of MySQL.  Is there a limit on how big a table
can be?  Other considerations?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Thursday 17 February 2005 12:18 pm, Grant wrote:

 I've started logging each page request made to my site as an entry in
 a MySQL table.  I get about 5000 page requests per day, and I wonder
 if I'm asking to much of MySQL.  Is there a limit on how big a table
 can be?  Other considerations?

Are you serious? We log 4-7 million rows a day here.. I dont think you have 
any reason to worry.

Jeff


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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread pepone pepone
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:18:02 -0800, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've started logging each page request made to my site as an entry in
 a MySQL table.  I get about 5000 page requests per day, and I wonder
 if I'm asking to much of MySQL.  Is there a limit on how big a table
 can be?  Other considerations?
 
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I think that it can be a good decision empty this table every week or
day a save a backup of it for better perfomance but i'm not a mySql
expert but with a table growing and gowing each time insert is more
slow

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Weird apache2 stuff

2005-02-17 Thread Grant
  Thanks, worked like a charm!  I wonder how apache2 could have been
  restarted manually though.  Should I be worried?
 
 Issuing a '/etc/init.d/apache reload' while apache is not running will
 start it in such a way that a later issued '/etc/init.d/apache whatever'
 will behave as apache was not previously started.
 
 So this could happen if you do not start apache automatically at boot
 and are 'reloading' apache after rotating logs thru logrotate, for example.

That must be what is happening.  I'm having problems with logrotate. 
I'll start a new thread about that.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Grant
  I've started logging each page request made to my site as an entry in
  a MySQL table.  I get about 5000 page requests per day, and I wonder
  if I'm asking to much of MySQL.  Is there a limit on how big a table
  can be?  Other considerations?
 
 Are you serious? We log 4-7 million rows a day here.. I dont think you have
 any reason to worry.

I'm very glad to hear that.  What about performance issues?  Will the
insert be slower as the table grows?  That could be a problem.

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Stefan Onken
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2005 19:18 schrieb Grant:

 I've started logging each page request made to my site as an
 entry in a MySQL table.  I get about 5000 page requests per day,
 and I wonder if I'm asking to much of MySQL.  Is there a limit on
 how big a table can be?  Other considerations?

1) 5.000 pages per day is nothing :)
2) http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/table-size.html
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[gentoo-user] Re: wvdial not writing to /etc/resolv.conf

2005-02-17 Thread James
Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes:


 according to man wvdial, auto dns should be on by default, and there is
 nothing in /etc/wvdial.conf to turn it off.
 
 Ideas anyone?

man wvdial.conf

talks about dns and default routes in a little bit more detail
(on an older debian-woody system) I have not emerge wvdial
onto gentoo yet, so I not sure about those man pages

Also,

emerge -s wvdial reveals:

net-dialup/qtwvdialer
  Latest version available: 0.3.1-r2
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 79 kB
  Homepage:http://www.mtoussaint.de/qtwvdialer.html
  Description: QT Frontend for wvdial
  License: GPL-2


Which might be easier to configure/debug. 


I always have to hack at wvdial and the modems (s-registers...) extensively when
I try to get a pc modem and a modem on a cisco router, happy with ppp.


James


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Re: [gentoo-user] proftpd 1.2.10: mod_delay disabling

2005-02-17 Thread Stefan Onken
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2005 17:09 schrieb fire-eyes:
  clients (nasty with IE).

  IfModule mod_delay.c
DelayEngine off
  /IfModule

http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/modules/mod_delay.html

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[gentoo-user] logrotate trouble

2005-02-17 Thread Grant
logrotate doesn't seem to be rotating my logs properly and I'm having
some apache2 problems that must be related to my use of postrotate in
logrotate.conf.

In logrotate.conf I have this:

daily
rotate 4
create
include /etc/logrotate.d
notifempty
nomail
noolddir

Are daily and rotate n defaults?  The configuration examples I've
seen specify daily and rotate n in the log config sections.

My log config sections are like this:

/var/log/apache2/access_log {
daily
rotate 99
postrotate
/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
endscript
}

for access_log, ssl_access_log, ssl_request_log, error_log, and
ssl_error_log with apache2 restarting for each.  I'm thinking that is
pretty bad.  Can anyone give me any pointers on this?

- Grant

P.S. logrotate.conf came with this:

/var/log/wtmp {
monthly
create 0664 root utmp
rotate 1
}

What is that?

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[gentoo-user] Re: ups recommendations

2005-02-17 Thread James
Cosmin Nicolaescu casper at camelot.homelinux.com writes:


 I know that they're all ~1000V which for a home computer seems a lot, but
 I am planning on buying at least one more box in the near future, and I
 figured that it's better to have more than to see that I'll need to buy
 another UPS in a year or so.

Low end UPS's are mostly the same. The biggest issue to watch out for is to
ensure that the most likely component to fail, the internal battery, is a common
size, voltage and specification. It's best to ensure that the internal battery
is a jell-cell 12VDC 7amp-hour battery, or multiples of this battery. So when 
you
inevitably have to replace it, it is a standard, inexpensive part

~1000V should be 1000VA. The isolation capabilities may be 1000V, but the UPS
does not use 1000V for anything..

1000VA tells you at the voltage you are going to run at 120 or 240 how many amps
it can supply

1000VA / 120V = 8.33 amps

1000VA / 240V = 4.17 amps


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Re: [gentoo-user] gpm

2005-02-17 Thread Martin Scharrer
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 20:57, PK wrote:

 nope no joy

 I keep getting an error message saying

 please use -m /dev/mouse -t protocol

 if I use the above settings.

Did you loaded the module usbhid?
Is you kernel right configured?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Russ Brown
Grant wrote:
I've started logging each page request made to my site as an entry in
a MySQL table.  I get about 5000 page requests per day, and I wonder
if I'm asking to much of MySQL.  Is there a limit on how big a table
can be?  Other considerations?
Are you serious? We log 4-7 million rows a day here.. I dont think you have
any reason to worry.

I'm very glad to hear that.  What about performance issues?  Will the
insert be slower as the table grows?  That could be a problem.
- Grant
We have an (InnoDB) table to which we log about 30 million rows per day 
(and growing).

To keep the inserts responsive we have a rolling script which moves the 
rows to another table which isn't accessed by the site. InnoDB allows 
the move script to do its work without locking out the site.

If you don't have some sort of strategy to empty the table daily, weekly 
or on a rolling basis (like we do) you'll find that your inserts 
eventually slow to a crawl (I've seen it happen). Making sure you only 
have the minimum required indexes on the table will also help keep your 
inserts sprightly.

So in summary:
 * Use InnoDB
 * Empty the table periodically
 * Index lightly.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 mice

2005-02-17 Thread Luke Albers
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 07:34 -0800, Bob Sanders wrote:
 Technically, yes, you should configure 2 seperate mice.  However, you don't 
 have
 to.  I suggest configuring your main mouse - insure that it works, then just
 plug in the I-pen and see if it works as well.  It'll use the same settings
 as the main mouse.  But you won't necessarily have all, if any, extra features

my normal mouse is ps/2 and this one is USB, so that won't work for me.
I am going to try using the I-Pen as the only  mouse (comment out the
main mouse in XF86Config), and see how that goes.

 lp here.  Only suggest trying another Window Manager to verify with.

I'll give it a try, but I would give up on using the I-Pen before I
would give up windowmaker


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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Thursday 17 February 2005 12:31 pm, Grant wrote:

 I'm very glad to hear that.  What about performance issues?  Will the
 insert be slower as the table grows?  That could be a problem.

If you use myisam, no, unless your deleting a lot.. if you use innodb and you 
dont optimize it, its possible..

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Re: [gentoo-user] proftpd 1.2.10: mod_delay disabling

2005-02-17 Thread fire-eyes
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 19:33 +0100, Stefan Onken wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2005 17:09 schrieb fire-eyes:
   clients (nasty with IE).
 
   IfModule mod_delay.c
 DelayEngine off
   /IfModule
 
 http://www.castaglia.org/proftpd/modules/mod_delay.html

Yep, that didn't work. See my later post for the solution.


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2 mice

2005-02-17 Thread Bob Sanders
 
 my normal mouse is ps/2 and this one is USB, so that won't work for me.
 I am going to try using the I-Pen as the only  mouse (comment out the
 main mouse in XF86Config), and see how that goes.


Why not?  Both map to /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mouse0.  
And yes, I have done this with multiple mice using /dev/psaux.
 
 
 I'll give it a try, but I would give up on using the I-Pen before I
 would give up windowmaker


It just helps narrow down to where the issue lies.

Thanks,

Bob 
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[gentoo-user] 4 hours of emerge -e down the drain?

2005-02-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   After looking into a problem with Evolution it appears that a few
people solved the problem doing an 'emerge -e gnome' so I decided to
give that a try. It ran for 4 hours and got to item 104 out of 260 and
then failed because for some reason portage wasn't smart about the
alsa-driver and 2.6 kernels:

 emerge (104 of 260) media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 to /
 md5 src_uri ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.8.tar.bz2
 * Determining the location of the kernel source code
 * Found kernel source directory:
 * /usr/src/linux
 * Found sources for kernel version:
 * 2.6.9-gentoo-r4
 * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options
 *   ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
 * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly.
 * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging
 * this package again.
 
!!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 failed.
!!! Function check_extra_config, Line 439, Exitcode 0
!!! Incorrect kernel configuration options
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.
 
Why does portage do this?

Anyway, if I have to restart this is there a way to pick up from here?
How can I start emerge -e gnome with item #105 (whatever that might
be) and not lose 4 hours of work?

Thanks,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Need help with apache2 setup

2005-02-17 Thread Ian Truelsen
I am not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am doing something wrong.

I am trying to setup apache2, but I cannot get access from outside my
machine. I have it set to listen on port 8000 and have that forwarded
from my router, however, I can only connect to the server locally and
only by specifying 127.0.0.1:8000. Outside of the machine, all I get is
connection refused.

I have this in my apache2.conf

###
### IP Address/Port
###
#BindAddress *
Listen 8000

ServerRoot /usr/lib/apache2
ServerName dark-lord
#LockFile /etc/apache2/apache2.lock
PidFile /var/run/apache2.pid
ErrorLog /var/log/apache/error_log
LogLevel warn
DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs

I think that is the relevant sections. If anyone can spot a problem or
can suggest another place to look, then please let me know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 4 hours of emerge -e down the drain?

2005-02-17 Thread Karsten Baumgarten
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Mark Knecht wrote:
| Hi,
|After looking into a problem with Evolution it appears that a few
| people solved the problem doing an 'emerge -e gnome' so I decided to
| give that a try. It ran for 4 hours and got to item 104 out of 260 and
| then failed because for some reason portage wasn't smart about the
| alsa-driver and 2.6 kernels:
|
|
|emerge (104 of 260) media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 to /
|md5 src_uri ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.8.tar.bz2
|
|  * Determining the location of the kernel source code
|  * Found kernel source directory:
|  * /usr/src/linux
|  * Found sources for kernel version:
|  * 2.6.9-gentoo-r4
|  * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options
|  *   ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
|  * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly.
|  * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging
|  * this package again.
|
| !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 failed.
| !!! Function check_extra_config, Line 439, Exitcode 0
| !!! Incorrect kernel configuration options
| !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.
|
| Why does portage do this?
|
| Anyway, if I have to restart this is there a way to pick up from here?
| How can I start emerge -e gnome with item #105 (whatever that might
| be) and not lose 4 hours of work?
emerge --resume
Regards,
Karsten
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Re: [gentoo-user] 4 hours of emerge -e down the drain?

2005-02-17 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Mark Knecht wrote:
Anyway, if I have to restart this is there a way to pick up from here?
How can I start emerge -e gnome with item #105 (whatever that might
be) and not lose 4 hours of work?
emerge --resume --skipfirst
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Re: [gentoo-user] 4 hours of emerge -e down the drain?

2005-02-17 Thread aaron
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:11:28AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
After looking into a problem with Evolution it appears that a few
 people solved the problem doing an 'emerge -e gnome' so I decided to
 give that a try. It ran for 4 hours and got to item 104 out of 260 and
 then failed because for some reason portage wasn't smart about the
 alsa-driver and 2.6 kernels:
 
  emerge (104 of 260) media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 to /
  md5 src_uri ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.8.tar.bz2
  * Determining the location of the kernel source code
  * Found kernel source directory:
  * /usr/src/linux
  * Found sources for kernel version:
  * 2.6.9-gentoo-r4
  * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options
  *   ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
  * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly.
  * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging
  * this package again.
  
 !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 failed.
 !!! Function check_extra_config, Line 439, Exitcode 0
 !!! Incorrect kernel configuration options
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.
  
 Why does portage do this?
 
 Anyway, if I have to restart this is there a way to pick up from here?
 How can I start emerge -e gnome with item #105 (whatever that might
 be) and not lose 4 hours of work?
 
 Thanks,
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Mark, 

Not at all.  Resume the emerge, and skip the first broken package.  This
can be done as follows: emerge --resume --skipfirst

Then when it's done, go back and figure out why that package broke.

Ciao,

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Re: [gentoo-user] 4 hours of emerge -e down the drain?

2005-02-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Thanks to all. It started at 1 of 156. By my calulation that looks correct:

103 of 260 passed
104 failed
1 of 156 to do

103+156=259

Looks great! Thanks!

Now, how will I figure out why portage wanted to build alsa-driver for
-e gnome? Does that require reading the gnome ebuild? (A capability
I'm not sure I have...)

Thanks,
Mark


On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:16:48 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:11:28AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
  Hi,
 After looking into a problem with Evolution it appears that a few
  people solved the problem doing an 'emerge -e gnome' so I decided to
  give that a try. It ran for 4 hours and got to item 104 out of 260 and
  then failed because for some reason portage wasn't smart about the
  alsa-driver and 2.6 kernels:
 
   emerge (104 of 260) media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 to /
   md5 src_uri ;-) alsa-driver-1.0.8.tar.bz2
   * Determining the location of the kernel source code
   * Found kernel source directory:
   * /usr/src/linux
   * Found sources for kernel version:
   * 2.6.9-gentoo-r4
   * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options
   *   ALSA is already compiled into the kernel.
   * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly.
   * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging
   * this package again.
 
  !!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8 failed.
  !!! Function check_extra_config, Line 439, Exitcode 0
  !!! Incorrect kernel configuration options
  !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
  message.
 
  Why does portage do this?
 
  Anyway, if I have to restart this is there a way to pick up from here?
  How can I start emerge -e gnome with item #105 (whatever that might
  be) and not lose 4 hours of work?
 
  Thanks,
  Mark
 
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 Mark,
 
 Not at all.  Resume the emerge, and skip the first broken package.  This
 can be done as follows: emerge --resume --skipfirst
 
 Then when it's done, go back and figure out why that package broke.
 
 Ciao,
 
 Aaron Kulbe
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Re: [gentoo-user] 4 hours of emerge -e down the drain?

2005-02-17 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Mark Knecht wrote:
Thanks to all. It started at 1 of 156. By my calulation that looks correct:
103 of 260 passed
104 failed
1 of 156 to do
103+156=259
Looks great! Thanks!
Now, how will I figure out why portage wanted to build alsa-driver for
-e gnome? Does that require reading the gnome ebuild? (A capability
I'm not sure I have...)
It was probably something along the lines of: gnome (or one of its direct 
dependencies) depends on esound, which uses the alsa USE flag, which drags in 
alsa-lib, which ...

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[gentoo-user] Show command execution text result on X desktop?

2005-02-17 Thread fprosper

Hi all, I just would like to be pointed on the right direction to
accomplish this: I want to show on the X desktop the result of a command, let's 
say, calendar -A 7, which Shows my appointments for the next 7 days, just like, 
i.e. root-tail, shows tail -f on the desktop.
I am quite sure it must be possible, can someone just suggest me where to start 
looking for it? 
I guess I could start from root-tail source code itself, but maybe there is a 
better way to do it?
 
Thank you all.
 
Fabrizio


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Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with apache2 setup

2005-02-17 Thread fire-eyes
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 11:12 -0800, Ian Truelsen wrote:
 I am not sure what I am doing wrong, but I am doing something wrong.
 
 I am trying to setup apache2, but I cannot get access from outside my
 machine. I have it set to listen on port 8000 and have that forwarded
 from my router, however, I can only connect to the server locally and
 only by specifying 127.0.0.1:8000. Outside of the machine, all I get is
 connection refused.
 
 I have this in my apache2.conf
 
 ###
 ### IP Address/Port
 ###
 #BindAddress *
 Listen 8000
 
 ServerRoot /usr/lib/apache2
 ServerName dark-lord
 #LockFile /etc/apache2/apache2.lock
 PidFile /var/run/apache2.pid
 ErrorLog /var/log/apache/error_log
 LogLevel warn
 DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs

Let's make sure it's actually listening on something other than
127.0.0.1.

as root: netstat -anp | grep :8000

Also note that if you are using a non-business ISP, it is common for
them to prohibit servers, and block inbound ports that are common for
this kind of thing. you might want to try something more random like
3874 or something.



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RE: [gentoo-user] Need help with apache2 setup

2005-02-17 Thread Dave Nebinger
 I am trying to setup apache2, but I cannot get access from outside my
 machine. I have it set to listen on port 8000 and have that forwarded
 from my router, however, I can only connect to the server locally and
 only by specifying 127.0.0.1:8000. Outside of the machine, all I get is
 connection refused.

Are you running iptables?  You might have a rule which blocks external
entities.

Are you running tcp-wrappers?  You might need to add an entry to
/etc/hosts.allow to allow the connection from your router.

Anyways it doesn't sound like an apache issue, but more of a security issue.



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Re: [gentoo-user] 4 hours of emerge -e down the drain?

2005-02-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:19:50 -0600, Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  Thanks to all. It started at 1 of 156. By my calulation that looks correct:
 
  103 of 260 passed
  104 failed
  1 of 156 to do
 
  103+156=259
 
  Looks great! Thanks!
 
  Now, how will I figure out why portage wanted to build alsa-driver for
  -e gnome? Does that require reading the gnome ebuild? (A capability
  I'm not sure I have...)
 
 It was probably something along the lines of: gnome (or one of its direct
 dependencies) depends on esound, which uses the alsa USE flag, which drags in
 alsa-lib, which ...
 

Ah, OK, that makes sense and it's something a user-type like me could
look at. Thanks for the hint.

Cheers,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] is it possible to emerge only the docs for a package

2005-02-17 Thread Catalin Trifu
Hi,
   I don't usually use docs, so i add doc to package.use but i forgot :)
to add it to a package.
   is there a possibility to emerge only the docs from a package
Thanks,
Catalin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Show command execution text result on X desktop?

2005-02-17 Thread Bob Sanders
 
 Hi all, I just would like to be pointed on the right direction to
 accomplish this: I want to show on the X desktop the result of a command, 
 let's say, calendar -A 7, which Shows my appointments for the next 7 days, 
 just like, i.e. root-tail, shows tail -f on the desktop.
 I am quite sure it must be possible, can someone just suggest me where to 
 start looking for it? 
 I guess I could start from root-tail source code itself, but maybe there is a 
 better way to do it?


*  x11-libs/xosd
  Latest version available: 2.2.8-r1
  Latest version installed: 2.2.8-r1
  Size of downloaded files: 274 kB
  Homepage:http://www.ignavus.net/
  Description: Library for overlaying text/glyphs in X-Windows 
X-On-Screen-Display plus binary for sending text from command line
  License: GPL-2

Bob  
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Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate trouble

2005-02-17 Thread Guilheme Cirne
On Thursday 17 February 2005 16:42, Grant wrote:
...
 My log config sections are like this:

 /var/log/apache2/access_log {
 daily
 rotate 99
 postrotate
 /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 endscript
 }

 for access_log, ssl_access_log, ssl_request_log, error_log, and
 ssl_error_log with apache2 restarting for each.  I'm thinking that is
 pretty bad.  Can anyone give me any pointers on this?

You could do something like this:

/var/log/apache2/access_log /var/log/apache2/ssl_access_log 
/var/log/apache2/ssl_request_log, 
error_log /var/log/apache2/ssl_error_log {
daily
rotate 99
sharedscripts
postrotate
/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
endscript
}

The sharedscripts option means that the postrotate script will only be 
executed once for all files. So apache will only be restarted once.

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo's Bandwidth Measurement Abilities

2005-02-17 Thread James
Hello All,

I need to use a portable with 2 ethernet interfaces as a bandwidth measurement
device to measure the actual bandwidth used by ethernet devices.  For this
measurement, I inted to put the device under test and only one other pc on the 
hub/switch so that all other forms of ethernet/ip traffic are not present. I
want to be able to route the data stream(s) into one ethernet port and out the
other,
with accruate measurements to verify what vendors say about the bandwidth
consumption (bits/sec) of their various products.

In the past I have used bwm (BandWidth Monitor) on Debian-woody. It's a bit
eradic, but somewhat useful. Googling around I found bwmon(gentoo) and
bwbar(debian). Any other candidate software I should evaluate to measure BW
consumed?

Maybe an obscure/unknown module with ethereal would work by sniffing?
I've also looked at NTOP, but nothing really jumps out to measure bandwidth
consumed by a particular device/session.

Last, I read an article in the March'05 issue of Linux Journal about Hierarchial
Token Buckets and Queuing, that is geared towords QOS and bandwidth usage
control mechanisms. Maybe this is what I need to use as a basis for developing a
robust
bandwidth measurement tool?

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7562

Any suggestions or ideas are most welcome.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Grant
  I'm very glad to hear that.  What about performance issues?  Will the
  insert be slower as the table grows?  That could be a problem.
 
 If you use myisam, no, unless your deleting a lot.. if you use innodb and you
 dont optimize it, its possible..

So you're saying if I use the default MySQL storage engine and don't
delete records, the size of the table will not affect the insert
performance?

- Grant

 Jeff

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Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate trouble

2005-02-17 Thread Grant
  My log config sections are like this:
 
  /var/log/apache2/access_log {
  daily
  rotate 99
  postrotate
  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
  endscript
  }
 
  for access_log, ssl_access_log, ssl_request_log, error_log, and
  ssl_error_log with apache2 restarting for each.  I'm thinking that is
  pretty bad.  Can anyone give me any pointers on this?
 
 You could do something like this:
 
 /var/log/apache2/access_log /var/log/apache2/ssl_access_log 
 /var/log/apache2/ssl_request_log,
 error_log /var/log/apache2/ssl_error_log {
 daily
 rotate 99
 sharedscripts
 postrotate
 /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 endscript
 }
 
 The sharedscripts option means that the postrotate script will only be
 executed once for all files. So apache will only be restarted once.

Got it, thank you!

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with apache2 setup

2005-02-17 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:27:59 -0500
fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's make sure it's actually listening on something other than
 127.0.0.1.
 
 as root: netstat -anp | grep :8000
 
dark-lord root # netstat -anp | grep 8000
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:80000.0.0.0:*  
LISTEN  30785/apache2  

 Also note that if you are using a non-business ISP, it is common for
 them to prohibit servers, and block inbound ports that are common for
 this kind of thing. you might want to try something more random like
 3874 or something.
 
I thought about that, but I can access the remote setup capabilities of
my router on port 8080, which strikes me as being the more likely
candidate for blocking. I will however, try another port to see whether
it helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Thursday 17 February 2005 02:25 pm, Grant wrote:

 So you're saying if I use the default MySQL storage engine and don't
 delete records, the size of the table will not affect the insert
 performance?

Depends on how big the table gets.. This depends on hardware/fs types/memory 
and a host of other things..

Eventually yes.. 5000 rows a day though? Unless your hardware isn't capable, 
you shouldn't notice for a long time..

Jeff


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Re: [gentoo-user] logrotate trouble

2005-02-17 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Guilheme Cirne:
 On Thursday 17 February 2005 16:42, Grant wrote:
 ...

  My log config sections are like this:
 
  /var/log/apache2/access_log {
  daily
  rotate 99
  postrotate
  /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
  endscript
  }
 
  for access_log, ssl_access_log, ssl_request_log, error_log, and
  ssl_error_log with apache2 restarting for each.  I'm thinking that is
  pretty bad.  Can anyone give me any pointers on this?

 You could do something like this:

 /var/log/apache2/access_log /var/log/apache2/ssl_access_log
 /var/log/apache2/ssl_request_log, error_log /var/log/apache2/ssl_error_log
 {
 daily
 rotate 99
  sharedscripts
 postrotate
 /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 endscript
 }


Or more succinctly:
/var/log/apache2/*log
{
 daily
 rotate 99
 sharedscripts
  postrotate
   /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
 endscript
}
 The sharedscripts option means that the postrotate script will only be
 executed once for all files. So apache will only be restarted once.

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[gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo

2005-02-17 Thread Dennis Taylor
I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something.  I want to run X-windows on 
my Gentoo box (2.6.10-gentoo-r6), but so far have been unsuccessful.  It is 
unclear to me whether Gnome or KDE need me to first install Xorg.  When Gnome 
would not emerge without error, I tried first emerging/configuring Xorg-X11, 
but it will not configure correctly for me.  When I run X -config, it produces 
a file with an extra horizontal synch line that is all corrupted.  When I 
remove it, then X -config /root/xorg.conf.new will start and show a dotted 
background like I remember from years ago using XFree86.  The mouse works 
because moving it around moves the mouse pointer (X).  I can only get out of it 
with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and that leaves my monitor unreadable.

Do I need the X server for Gnome and/or KDE?  If so, any ideas?

My use flags are as follows:

USE=gtk gnome qt kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly

I did an emerge --sync last week.
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[gentoo-user] desktop publishing

2005-02-17 Thread timothy johnson
what opensource software to we have to recommend to do some small
desktop publishing, ie family newletterm and such.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ups recommendations

2005-02-17 Thread Cosmin Nicolaescu

On Thu, February 17, 2005 1:39 pm, James said:
 Cosmin Nicolaescu casper at camelot.homelinux.com writes:


 I know that they're all ~1000V which for a home computer seems a lot,
 but
 I am planning on buying at least one more box in the near future, and I
 figured that it's better to have more than to see that I'll need to buy
 another UPS in a year or so.

 Low end UPS's are mostly the same. The biggest issue to watch out for is
 to
 ensure that the most likely component to fail, the internal battery, is a
 common
 size, voltage and specification. It's best to ensure that the internal
 battery
 is a jell-cell 12VDC 7amp-hour battery, or multiples of this battery. So
 when you
 inevitably have to replace it, it is a standard, inexpensive part

 ~1000V should be 1000VA. The isolation capabilities may be 1000V, but the
 UPS
 does not use 1000V for anything..

 1000VA tells you at the voltage you are going to run at 120 or 240 how
 many amps
 it can supply

 1000VA / 120V = 8.33 amps

 1000VA / 240V = 4.17 amps


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Hey James,

Thanks for the tips. How do you find out what bettery it uses? I've been
looking at F6C120-UNV and I couldn't find anywhere in the specs what type
of battery it actually has. Do you think calling the company (belkin)
would be any useful?

Thanks again!

-Cos

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Re: [gentoo-user] Logging traffic to MySQL -- Am I pushing it?

2005-02-17 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Thursday 17 February 2005 02:25 pm, Grant wrote:

 So you're saying if I use the default MySQL storage engine and don't
 delete records, the size of the table will not affect the insert
 performance?

Grant,

Here is a excellent discussion, and its how we do things here so I know it 
works well.. This allows you to use the power of myisam and inserts, but not 
loosing it to deletes.. 

http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/178669


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and Gnome or KDE on Gentoo

2005-02-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:41:33 -0500, Dennis Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have read the DOCs, but I am missing something.  I want to run X-windows on 
 my Gentoo box (2.6.10-gentoo-r6), but so far have been unsuccessful.  It is 
 unclear to me whether Gnome or KDE need me to first install Xorg.  When Gnome 
 would not emerge without error, I tried first emerging/configuring Xorg-X11, 
 but it will not configure correctly for me.  When I run X -config, it 
 produces a file with an extra horizontal synch line that is all corrupted.  
 When I remove it, then X -config /root/xorg.conf.new will start and show a 
 dotted background like I remember from years ago using XFree86.  The mouse 
 works because moving it around moves the mouse pointer (X).  I can only get 
 out of it with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and that leaves my monitor unreadable.
 
 Do I need the X server for Gnome and/or KDE?  If so, any ideas?
 
 My use flags are as follows:
 
 USE=gtk gnome qt kde dvd alsa cdr nptl nptlonly
 
 I did an emerge --sync last week.
 Dennis Taylor

Hi Dennis,
   Do another sync

emerge sync

and then do your emerge gnome. Hopefully yuo'll be OK. Xorg needs to
be emerged but it does not need to be configured to emerge gnome. We
can deal with the xorg.conf problems when you show us what it did.

Here's my current flags for one machine:

USE=nvidia 3dnow nptl nptlonly tiff gimp gimpprint ppds usb jack
jack-caps jack-tmpfs alsa dvd dvdread dvdr X

Take them with a grain of salt.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] desktop publishing

2005-02-17 Thread Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:42:17 -0800, timothy johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what opensource software to we have to recommend to do some small
 desktop publishing, ie family newletterm and such.
 

Desktop publishing = scribus or openoffice but mostly scribus. If it's
good enough for some newspaper it is good enough for you ;)

Cheers !

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Re: [gentoo-user] desktop publishing

2005-02-17 Thread Christoph Eckert

 what opensource software to we have to recommend to do some
 small desktop publishing, ie family newletterm and
 such.

Scribus.


 Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] desktop publishing

2005-02-17 Thread Christoph Eckert

 Desktop publishing = scribus or openoffice but mostly
 scribus. If it's good enough for some newspaper it is good
 enough for you ;)

Are you sure ;-) ?


 Best regards


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