Re: [gentoo-user] list exact files in pkg before emerge

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 14:51 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm probably missing this in qpkg or emerge man pages, but I'd like to
 know how to discover the exact files that would be installed before
 actually doing.
 
   emerge -v -p pkg doesn't do that in the detail I'd like to see.

There is no useful way of knowing every file that will be installed by
package XX, because that varies depending on USE flags.


 
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-27 Thread Julien Cayzac
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Occasionally, but you'll get a warning that you need to do this when you
 sync. I think the last time this happened on x86 was when the 1.4 profile
 was deprecated last year.

Even after syncing, I still don't get any make.defaults, so eix is now broken:

# eix -u
Updating eix database in /var/cache/eix
Using portage cache: /usr/portage/metadata/cache/
varsreader.cc:309 Can't open file
/etc/../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defaults No
such file or directory
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem With Tulip Module

2005-03-27 Thread Kathy Wills
Jerry McBride wrote:

On Saturday 26 March 2005 09:25 pm, Kathy Wills wrote:
  

I've tried everything I can find by googling. Tried the forums. Can't
find anything that solves the issue. I have noapic as a kernel parameter
in grub. I still get this error in dmesg:

tulip0:  MII transceiver #1 config 1000 status 786d advertising 01e1.
eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at d12c8000, 00:03:6D:1D:89:41, IRQ 9.
ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI)
:02:0d.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
eth0: Setting half-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 0021.

Here is the relevant result of lspci-vv:

:02:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast
Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
Subsystem: Linksys: Unknown device 0570
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort-
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Latency: 32 (63750ns min, 63750ns max), cache line size 08
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
Region 0: I/O ports at d000
Region 1: Memory at ed80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

Here is the result of mii-diag:

Using the default interface 'eth0'.
Basic registers of MII PHY #1:  1000 786d 0022 5410 01e1 0021 0004 2001.
 Basic mode control register 0x1000: Auto-negotiation enabled.
 You have link beat, and everything is working OK.
 Your link partner is generating 10baseT link beat  (no autonegotiation).
   End of basic transceiver information.

Does anyone have anymore ideas on what to try to get rid of the
tulip_stop_rxtx() failed problem? The patches I found by googling this
error didn't work.



What kernel version are you running? Tulip reports version 1.1.13 with this 
kernel, 2.6.11. I've run my linksys cards with most 2.2.x and all 2.4.x an 
2.6.x version kernels and never saw your reported error message. The config 
file in 2.6.11 has a couple of configure options that may be of help to you.

Cheers


  

Kernel version is 2.6.11-r4. I'm using the tulip module that I have
always used. From kernel .config:

# Tulip family network device support
#
CONFIG_NET_TULIP=y
CONFIG_DE2104X=m
CONFIG_TULIP=m
CONFIG_TULIP_MWI=y
CONFIG_TULIP_MMIO=y
CONFIG_TULIP_NAPI=y
CONFIG_TULIP_NAPI_HW_MITIGATION=y
CONFIG_DE4X5=m
CONFIG_WINBOND_840=m
CONFIG_DM9102=m

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 09:17 +, Julien Cayzac wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Occasionally, but you'll get a warning that you need to do this when you
  sync. I think the last time this happened on x86 was when the 1.4 profile
  was deprecated last year.
 
 Even after syncing, I still don't get any make.defaults, so eix is now broken:
 
 # eix -u
 Updating eix database in /var/cache/eix
 Using portage cache: /usr/portage/metadata/cache/
 varsreader.cc:309 Can't open file
 /etc/../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defaults No
 such file or directory

what does ls -l /etc/make.profile say?

try rm /etc/make.profile

ln -s /etc/make.profile /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0




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Re: [gentoo-user] No-ip.com Client

2005-03-27 Thread romildo
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 10:44:55AM +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 I am using no-ip.com's redirection services to run my webserver on 
 Gentoo.. I downloaded their client and installed it. Now I wanted it to 
 load at startup. I looked at the readme and here are the instructions...

The no-ip updater is available in portage: net-dns/noip-updater
and you can install it with emerge. If you do that, a script
will be installed in /etc/init.d (/etc/init.d/noip). Use
the command

# rc-update add noip-updater default

to start the service at boot time. The first time it is
run, it asks for the configuration data.

I think you should take a look at this package, instead
of installing without the help of emerge.

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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The answer is in the original error message, 3.3.4

 grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or 
 directory

 Sounds pretty dumb but I
 didn't see anything like a `history' item for qpkg or emerge.

 emerge genlop
 genlop gcc

I must be missing something basic here.  The version shown in that
output is the same version that is currently installed.

Running genlop gcc produces:

 * sys-devel/gcc

 Wed Oct 27 17:25:47 2004  sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1
 Wed Oct 27 17:34:25 2004  sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1

So does it mean the same version was installed twice?

Running   ` fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4'
Doesn't seem to accomplish much either:
  root # fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4
 * Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...

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Re: [gentoo-user] list exact files in pkg before emerge

2005-03-27 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Harry Putnam wrote:
I'm probably missing this in qpkg or emerge man pages, but I'd like to
know how to discover the exact files that would be installed before
actually doing.
  emerge -v -p pkg doesn't do that in the detail I'd like to see.
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take a look at
http://www.gentoo-stats.org/
maybe there is something similar
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 11:33 +, Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 11:11, Nick Rout wrote:
  On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 09:17 +, Julien Cayzac wrote:
   On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +, Neil Bothwick 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Occasionally, but you'll get a warning that you need to do
this when you sync. I think the last time this happened on
x86 was when the 1.4 profile was deprecated last year.
  
   Even after syncing, I still don't get any make.defaults, so eix
   is now broken:
  
   # eix -u
   Updating eix database in /var/cache/eix
   Using portage cache: /usr/portage/metadata/cache/
   varsreader.cc:309 Can't open file
   /etc/../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defa
  ults No such file or directory
 
  what does ls -l /etc/make.profile say?
 
  try rm /etc/make.profile
 
  ln -s /etc/make.profile
  /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0
 
 That's bad advice Nick ;-)
 
 First: ln -s source link means you probably meant ln 
 -s /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 /etc/make.profile

woops yes I got my parameters round the wrong way there, sorry about
that!

 
 Second: That won't work for Neil anyway, because there is 
 no /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defaults
 

err I never suggested that he switch to the 2005.0 profile in the first
place, someone else did. I was just trying to make sure he had his link
right (which, as you pointed out above) I did wrong! 

However on this second point I think you may be wrong. 

/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/parent contains .. and as
I understand it this points to the directory above
(i.e /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/ which contains a
make.defaults.

Although so does /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.3/parent,
yet /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2004.3/ contains a
make.defaults, so now I am confused!


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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The answer is in the original error message, 3.3.4

 grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No
 such file or directory

 Sounds pretty dumb but I
 didn't see anything like a `history' item for qpkg or emerge.

 emerge genlop
 genlop gcc

 I must be missing something basic here.  The version shown in that
 output is the same version that is currently installed.

 Running genlop gcc produces:

  * sys-devel/gcc

  Wed Oct 27 17:25:47 2004  sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1
  Wed Oct 27 17:34:25 2004  sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1

 So does it mean the same version was installed twice?

 Running   ` fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4'
 Doesn't seem to accomplish much either:
   root # fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4
  * Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...

Ok, I tried running the command suggested in 
  fix_libtool_files.sh
`fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch i386-pc-linux-gnu

Setting i386 as old target.  And did see some `fixing' output on kde
libs:
 * FIXING: /usr/lib/libaspell.la ... [c]
 * FIXING: /usr/lib/libpspell.la ... [c]

So trying again with `emerge -v -k kdelibs'

But I noticed that the portage tree does not contain my version of gcc
  gcc-3.3.4-r1  it jumps from 3.3.2 to 3.3.5

Is that significant?

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[gentoo-user] Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm trying to run xfce4 

genlop xfce4 reports only:

* xfce-base/xfce4

But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it
doesn't show up.

On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking
for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of
tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X.

Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the
top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc.  They don't appear
in the taskbar pager.  

I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 06:31 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm trying to run xfce4 
 
 genlop xfce4 reports only:
 
 * xfce-base/xfce4
 
 But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it
 doesn't show up.

because genlop xfce4 searches only for the package named xfce4, not
xfce4-session or any name just containing xfce4.

You might try genlop -l |grep xfce4


 
 On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking
 for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of
 tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X.
 
 Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the
 top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc.  They don't appear
 in the taskbar pager.  

As a general X tip, hold down the Alt key and click-drag anywhere in the
window - that way you do not need to be able to reach the title bar.

Have you emerge xfce4-panel and does it appear?

 
 I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there?

I have one, I am not sure where it came from.

 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 06:31 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm trying to run xfce4 
 
 genlop xfce4 reports only:
 
 * xfce-base/xfce4
 
 But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it
 doesn't show up.
 
 On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking
 for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of
 tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X.
 
 Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the
 top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc.  They don't appear
 in the taskbar pager.  
 
 I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there?

FWIW, heres a list of my installed xfce4 stuff:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ qpkg -I|grep xfce4
xfce-base/libxfce4mcs *
xfce-base/libxfce4util *
xfce-base/xfce4 *
xfce-base/xfce4-extras *
xfce-base/xfce4-panel *
xfce-base/xfce4-session *
xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder *
xfce-extra/xfce4-artwork *
xfce-extra/xfce4-battery *
xfce-extra/xfce4-clipman *
xfce-extra/xfce4-cpugraph *
xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme *
xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox *
xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd *
xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer *
xfce-extra/xfce4-netload *
xfce-extra/xfce4-notes *
xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop *
xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload *
xfce-extra/xfce4-systray *
xfce-extra/xfce4-taskbar *
xfce-extra/xfce4-themes *
xfce-extra/xfce4-toys *
xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher *
xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist *

 
 
 
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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-27 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 27 March 2005 14:13, Harry Putnam wrote:
  Running genlop gcc produces:
 
   * sys-devel/gcc
 
   Wed Oct 27 17:25:47 2004  sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1
   Wed Oct 27 17:34:25 2004  sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1
 
  So does it mean the same version was installed twice?

Yes, but doesn't mean necessarily that two gcc with different versions 
are residing on your pc. (I don't think you are cross-compiling, you 
would be aware of it!)

Ten minutes between two gcc install may mean that the second install was 
issued from a precompiled package. (In my box gcc-3.3.4 took about half 
an hour to compile; ok there wasn't so plenty of RAM as in signature 
then, but the rest is the same)


 Ok, I tried running the command suggested in
   fix_libtool_files.sh
 `fix_libtool_files.sh `gcc -dumpversion` --oldarch i386-pc-linux-gnu

 Setting i386 as old target.  And did see some `fixing' output on kde
 libs:
  * FIXING: /usr/lib/libaspell.la ... [c]
  * FIXING: /usr/lib/libpspell.la ... [c]

 So trying again with `emerge -v -k kdelibs'

 But I noticed that the portage tree does not contain my version of
 gcc gcc-3.3.4-r1  it jumps from 3.3.2 to 3.3.5

 Is that significant?
It is no more in portage, period.
But this make me think your system is quite dated, when did you do an 
emerge --sync last time?

Furthermore, what is the output of gcc-config -l ?

Ciao
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[gentoo-user] Re: Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 06:31 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm trying to run xfce4 
 
 genlop xfce4 reports only:
 
 * xfce-base/xfce4
 
 But I did emerge xfce4-session with no errors .. not sure why it
 doesn't show up.

 because genlop xfce4 searches only for the package named xfce4, not
 xfce4-session or any name just containing xfce4.

 You might try genlop -l |grep xfce4


 
 On startup, I see a lightblue backgroud with the icon mouse blinking
 for a few seconds .. maybe 15-20 and then the screen goes a sort of
 tweed (grey and white speckles) and cursor becomes an X.
 
 Any apps started appear with the title bar just out of site above the
 top of screen so they cannot be moved/resized etc.  They don't appear
 in the taskbar pager.  

 As a general X tip, hold down the Alt key and click-drag anywhere in the
 window - that way you do not need to be able to reach the title bar.

Holding down alt and click/dragging has no effect whatever here, other
than to highlight any text I drag over.

 Have you emerge xfce4-panel and does it appear?

Yes, panel appears and I can get to config icon and other stuff.  I
expected to see any apps running appear in the pager but do not.  I
see a 4 pane pager.. all blank.
 
 I have no .xfce4 in ~/ .. .. Should it have been copied there?

 I have one, I am not sure where it came from.

I see now its ~/.config/xfce4  xfce4-session

I haven't used xfce4 for a couple yrs but in older versions one had an 
.xfce/ with lots of config files under it.  I see everything is now in
xml. 

The fact that the default blue screen with mouse icon appears at first
then stops and turns to the ugly tween screen with X shaped mouse
cursor, would seem to mean something important isn't loading.

I'm discovering too, that if I start an xterm and type xffm to bringup
the filemanager, I get an error about not being able to load shared
libraries  `libxfce4mcs-client.so.1'.  A find search shows that file
is not present on the system:
  root # find /usr/lib  -iname 'libxfce4mcs-client*'
  /usr/lib/libxfce4mcs-client.la
  /usr/lib/libxfce4mcs-client.so
  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libxfce4mcs-client-1.0.pc
  /usr/lib/libxfce4mcs-client.so.2
  /usr/lib/libxfce4mcs-client.so.2.0.3
  /usr/lib/libxfce4mcs-client.a
So maybe there something still not installed.  Do you have that file
in /usr/lib?

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[gentoo-user] probing IDE interfaces

2005-03-27 Thread Jorge Almeida
I just noticed error messages in dmesg which shouldn't be there:
ICH5: chipset revision 2
ICH5: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfc00-0xfc07, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfc08-0xfc0f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: SAMSUNG SP0802N, ATA DISK drive
hdb: SAMSUNG SP0802N, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W5224A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: PLEXTOR DVD-ROM PX-116A2 0100, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Probing IDE interface ide2...
ide2: Wait for ready failed before probe !
It keeps on until ide5. Since I only have the two usual ide controllers,
this appears harmless, but why should an inexistent controller be
probed?
Kernel: 2.6.10-gentoo-r4
sys-fs/udev-045
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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But I noticed that the portage tree does not contain my version of
 gcc gcc-3.3.4-r1  it jumps from 3.3.2 to 3.3.5

 Is that significant?
 It is no more in portage, period.
 But this make me think your system is quite dated, when did you do an 
 emerge --sync last time?

 Furthermore, what is the output of gcc-config -l ?


The system was installed 3 days ago from the most current 2004.3
livecd.  I then used the stage2 approach.

I ran emerge -sync yesterday

gcc-config -l
[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4 *


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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-27 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 27 March 2005 16:05, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  But I noticed that the portage tree does not contain my version of
  gcc gcc-3.3.4-r1  it jumps from 3.3.2 to 3.3.5
 
  Is that significant?
 
  It is no more in portage, period.
  But this make me think your system is quite dated, when did you do
  an emerge --sync last time?
 
  Furthermore, what is the output of gcc-config -l ?

 The system was installed 3 days ago from the most current 2004.3
 livecd.  I then used the stage2 approach.

 I ran emerge -sync yesterday

 gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4 *

What is the output of emerge -p gcc, then?

for a x86 stable box it should be 
[ebuild   NS  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.5-r1

guessing
You did a fresh sync, but didn't update packages
emerge -pDuv world should tell what to update.
/guessing

Ciao
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Re: [gentoo-user] Root shell doesn't source bashrc

2005-03-27 Thread Bill Davidson
On 16:11 Fri 25 Mar , Harry Putnam wrote:
 On a root login and although root's shell is bash, the .bashrc file I
 created is not sourced.
 
 Is this a local config problem or a default system setting somewhere.
 
 Far as I know, when using bash it is supposed to look for
 .bash_profile/profile (in that order) and then .bashrc when invoked.

Bash sources /etc/profile, then either ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, or
~/.profile, in that order. In order for ~/.bashrc to be sourced, you need
to do it from one of these files with a line like this:

[ -f ~/.bashrc ]  . ~/.bashrc

That's for a login shell anyway. See the bash man page or info pages for more.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] No-ip.com Client

2005-03-27 Thread Bruno Lustosa
 The no-ip updater is available in portage: net-dns/noip-updater
 and you can install it with emerge. If you do that, a script
 will be installed in /etc/init.d (/etc/init.d/noip). Use
 the command
 
 # rc-update add noip-updater default

I'm using it, and it works really fine.
You should try it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive

2005-03-27 Thread David Corbin
On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:49 am, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 If you get an error like this:
 libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la'
 is not a valid libtool archive

 during an emerge, the solution is: (as root)
 fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4

 Please retrict any further queries on this issue to this thread.
 While I believe this is the only file reported as affected, any .la file in
 the same directory can be fixed the same way.

Here is the output I'm getting:

/bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++  
-Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 
-D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W 
-Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=i686 
-fomit-frame-pointer -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute 
-fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common  -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE 
-DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o 
kspell_aspell.la -rpath /usr/kde/3.3/lib/kde3 -module -no-undefined 
-Wl,--no-undefined-Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined -avoid-version -module 
-no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined 
-R /usr/kde/3.3/lib -R /usr/qt/3/lib -R /usr/lib  kspell_aspellclient.lo 
kspell_aspelldict.lo ../../libkspell2.la -laspell
grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or 
directory
/bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No 
such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not 
a valid libtool archive
make[4]: *** [kspell_aspell.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2/kspell2/plugins/aspell'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2/kspell2/plugins'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2/kspell2'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2


I've tried the command given above, and while it generates some output, 
building continues to fail with the same error.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4
 * Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...
 *   [1/5] Scanning /lib ...
 *   [2/5] Scanning /usr/lib ...
 *   [3/5] Scanning /usr/kde/3.3/lib ...
 *   [4/5] Scanning /usr/local/lib ...
 *   [5/5] Scanning /usr/qt/3/lib ...


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Re: [gentoo-user] xine problems

2005-03-27 Thread Paul Varner
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 23:15 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
   Huh?!?!?  Actually, it's sort of right.  Before emerging xine-ui,
 there was nothing.  Afterwards, I get...
 
 [m450][waltdnes][~]ll /usr/X11R6/bin/xine*
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 725828 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/X11R6/bin/xine
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  41495 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/X11R6/bin/xine-bugreport
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  41495 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/X11R6/bin/xine-check
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   2036 Mar 26 18:36 /usr/X11R6/bin/xine-config
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 116660 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/X11R6/bin/xine-remote
 [m450][waltdnes][~]ll /usr/bin/xine*
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 725828 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/bin/xine
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  41495 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/bin/xine-bugreport
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  41495 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/bin/xine-check
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   2036 Mar 26 18:36 /usr/bin/xine-config
 -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 116660 Mar 26 19:09 /usr/bin/xine-remote
 
   Those aren't symlinks, they're identical duplicates, bot sets
 installed by one emerge.

I can't help with the actual problem, but the reason for the duplicates
is that /usr/X11R6 is a symlink to /usr so the files are the same files.
Ypu can see this by doing an ls -il and looking at the inode numbers.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem With Tulip Module

2005-03-27 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 27 March 2005 05:04 am, Kathy Wills wrote:

---big snip---

 Kernel version is 2.6.11-r4. I'm using the tulip module that I have
 always used. From kernel .config:

 # Tulip family network device support
 #
 CONFIG_NET_TULIP=y
 CONFIG_DE2104X=m
 CONFIG_TULIP=m
 CONFIG_TULIP_MWI=y
 CONFIG_TULIP_MMIO=y
 CONFIG_TULIP_NAPI=y
 CONFIG_TULIP_NAPI_HW_MITIGATION=y
 CONFIG_DE4X5=m
 CONFIG_WINBOND_840=m
 CONFIG_DM9102=m

Did some googling and it seems that the error message can be ignored, unless 
of course it's giving you operational problems. From what I have read, it 
appears to be a hardware mix problem involving dma issues. Over here I run 
MSI, SOYOTEC and ABIT motherboards and as I mentioned in my previous email, 
no such error message has turned up in either messages or dmesg output.

Try pulling the linksys card, clean the edge and slap in back into the 
motherboard in a different slot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 available?

2005-03-27 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Julien Cayzac wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:22:53 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Occasionally, but you'll get a warning that you need to do this when you
sync. I think the last time this happened on x86 was when the 1.4 profile
was deprecated last year.

Even after syncing, I still don't get any make.defaults, so eix is now broken:
# eix -u
Updating eix database in /var/cache/eix
Using portage cache: /usr/portage/metadata/cache/
varsreader.cc:309 Can't open file
/etc/../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/make.defaults No
such file or directory
Well, eix is broken anyway if it expects there to be a make.defaults in every 
profile directory.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:17:44 -0500, Calvin Walton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:55:13 -0800, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ssh -X -Y -C -c blowfish -l mark IP-address
 
  I'm now logged on successfully to a remote machine. I can run X apps
  and display them here successfully. Let's say that I wanted to run
  Gnome on the machine at the other end but see it displayed here on
  display #2. How can I do that? If I do the same startx -- :2 it
  creates a second display at the far end. I'd like to pipe that to a
  second display here but I haven't grasped how to do that.
 
 Ssh forwards windows from the remote computer to whatever display you
 have set in your DISPLAY variable on the local computer.
 
 So, in this case, you would want to start the xserver on your local
 computer, then run
 
 DISPLAY=:2 ssh -X -Y -C -c blowfish -l mark IP-address
 
 to forward apps on the remote computer to your second local display
 

Calvin,
   Thanks for the response. This does indeed work, but doesn't do what
I want to do. This will display an app like Evolution running on the
remote box on my second display instead of the first display. That's
cool but it requires some window manager like Gnome be running here
locally.

   What I actually want to do is start Gnome on the remote box and see
the whole Gnome desktop on my local box's second display. I do not
want to upset the locally running window manager. Any ideas on how I
do that?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 27 March 2005 16:35, Mark Knecht wrote:

What I actually want to do is start Gnome on the remote box and see
 the whole Gnome desktop on my local box's second display. I do not
 want to upset the locally running window manager. Any ideas on how I
 do that?

I think you might find nx interesting.
You need to install nxserver (freenx) on the remote box, and a client on the 
local box.
There is an howto at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nx-guide.xml

If you don't need to startx but connecting to a running session is enough, you 
could also install one of the many vnc servers available (x11vnc, xf4vnc) on 
the remote box, and display the remote desktop on the local machine.

As another solution (untested and don't know whether it works), you might try 
to redirect the remote DISPLAY variable to the local box (with ssh -X, port 
forwarding or the other usual ways), and then try running something like 
gnome-session on the remote box, and see if the whole session comes up and is 
displayed on the local box (with startkde this kind of works, but is 
awkward).

Even if this work, IMHO nx is far cleaner and more efficient.

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[gentoo-user] xorg -- orphans

2005-03-27 Thread maxim wexler
Hello everyone,

After emerge xorg some orphaned symlinks were found.

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID,Speedo pointed to
non-existent files in //usr/share/fonts(what's with
the double'/'?). These are flashing red  bold-white.

/etc/X11/X points to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg which *does*
exist where it's supposed to but is listed in
non-flashing red  plain-white, also an orphan
according to DIR_COLORS.

On linux.gentoo.dev there is some discussion of the
bad font links. Too technical for me, the upshot seems
to be it's not really a big deal.

Couldn't find anything about Xorg. Question: I haven't
configured X yet; will this solve the problem?

-mw





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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 27 March 2005 08:35, Mark Knecht wrote:
What I actually want to do is start Gnome on the remote box and see
 the whole Gnome desktop on my local box's second display. I do not
 want to upset the locally running window manager. Any ideas on how I
 do that?

Do you run *dm on the remote box? If so, you might want to read up on XDMCP 
which can do what you want, though I don't know how to ssh-tunnel it (if you 
want to do that)

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources vs. gentoo-dev-sources

2005-03-27 Thread Peng
On 03/26/05 17:52, Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Hi
I'm currently on  to my very first Gentoo installation and just sitting 
around waiting for my system to finish the bootstrap.sh. Meanwhile I've 
been looking around a great deal and started to think about what 
kernel-package to use. I can't see any reason for not going with a  
2.6-kernel and I suppose that is the way Gentoo's default will be moving 
as well. In doing so I thought using the gentoo-sources already now 
would save me some time over going with gentoo-dev-sources now and later 
switch to gentoo-sources. However, all version 2.6.x are masked in 
gentoo-sources. 2.6.11-r4 is marked as stable, but still masked. I can 
see the very same version is available in gentoo-dev-sources. Would it 
then be ok for me to

echo =kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r4  /etc/portage/package.unmask
in order to avoid having to switch packages later on? Or am I missing 
some heavy reason why the 2.6.x kernels is masked in gentoo-sources?

/Jörgen

Just use gentoo-dev-sources for the moment. I don't see how it would be 
any trouble to switch later on.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Saturday 26 March 2005 05:55 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:
 ssh -X -Y -C -c blowfish -l mark IP-address

 I'm now logged on successfully to a remote machine. I can run X apps
 and display them here successfully. Let's say that I wanted to run
 Gnome on the machine at the other end but see it displayed here on
 display #2. How can I do that? If I do the same startx -- :2 it
 creates a second display at the far end. I'd like to pipe that to a
 second display here but I haven't grasped how to do that.

Do it the same.. Bring up X using a rudementry windows manager. SSH over to 
the other box, gnome-session  should bring it up.

startx is overwriting your $display.. dont run that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Saturday 26 March 2005 05:55 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I'm now logged on successfully to a remote machine. I can run X apps
 and display them here successfully. Let's say that I wanted to run
 Gnome on the machine at the other end but see it displayed here on
 display #2. How can I do that? If I do the same startx -- :2 it
 creates a second display at the far end. I'd like to pipe that to a
 second display here but I haven't grasped how to do that.

Little google'in produced:

http://www.issociate.de/board/post/28886/remote_X_sessions.html

Thats how you can automate the task. Of course, passwordless ssh sessions 
would be required.. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive

2005-03-27 Thread Robert Crawford
On Sunday 27 March 2005 10:35 am, David Corbin wrote:
 On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:49 am, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
  If you get an error like this:
  libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la'
  is not a valid libtool archive
 
  during an emerge, the solution is: (as root)
  fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4
 
  Please retrict any further queries on this issue to this thread.
  While I believe this is the only file reported as affected, any .la file
  in the same directory can be fixed the same way.

 Here is the output I'm getting:

 /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi
 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion
 -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DNDEBUG
 -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wformat-security
 -Wmissing-format-attribute
 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common  -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE
 -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o
 kspell_aspell.la -rpath /usr/kde/3.3/lib/kde3 -module -no-undefined
 -Wl,--no-undefined-Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined -avoid-version -module
 -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined
 -R /usr/kde/3.3/lib -R /usr/qt/3/lib -R /usr/lib  kspell_aspellclient.lo
 kspell_aspelldict.lo ../../libkspell2.la -laspell
 grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file
 or directory
 /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la:
 No such file or directory
 libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is
 not a valid libtool archive
 make[4]: *** [kspell_aspell.la] Error 1
 make[4]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2/kspell2/plugins/aspel
l' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2/kspell2/plugins'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2/kspell2'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kdelibs-3.3.2-r5/work/kdelibs-3.3.2'
 make: *** [all] Error 2


 I've tried the command given above, and while it generates some output,
 building continues to fail with the same error.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4
  * Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...
  *   [1/5] Scanning /lib ...
  *   [2/5] Scanning /usr/lib ...
  *   [3/5] Scanning /usr/kde/3.3/lib ...
  *   [4/5] Scanning /usr/local/lib ...
  *   [5/5] Scanning /usr/qt/3/lib ...

What's the output of gcc-config -l(that's a small L, not i)

for example, mine is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ gcc-config -l
[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4
[2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110 *
[3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110-hardened
[4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110-hardenednopie
[5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110-hardenednossp

When you do the  fix_libtool_files.sh x.x.x thing, you need to refer to the 
gcc version previously used, not the current one- at least that's what worked 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xfmedia Segmentation fault

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
 Make sure you have the D-BUS daemon running:
 # emerge sys-apps/dbus
 # /etc/init.d/dbus start
 
 See if that helps.

Hi Peter,

I don't have dbus running (although it is installed), but I am going
to stick with 2.6.11.  The only problem I've found with it is my
touchpad doesn't register small movements.  It's really annoying
actually.  But should I add dbus to the default runlevel anyway?

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Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
  A little while ago Neil turned me on to quickpkg.  It sounds like a
  great way to protect yourself from the new package blues.  Is anyone
  using it like that?  What would be the best way to assure that your
  system always has a backup copy of your current version of a package
  available before emerging a new one?
 
 A more reliable method, assuming you have the drive space, is to add
 buildpkg to FEATURES in make.conf. Then emerge will automatically build a
 package when installing a package. It also means the package is verified,
 because ebuild builds it then installs from the package it just built, not
 the files in $PORTAGE_TMPDIR.

If I'm understanding it correctly, FEATURES=buildpkg sounds less
reliable for failed upgrade recovery.  If you want to roll back to a
previous version of a package, you're going to end up with what was
originally installed, not what was working on your system right before
the upgrade, right?

Also, I tried to use quickpkg to protect me from any problems
upgrading xorg and I ended up totally screwed.  I quickpackaged my
installed xorg, emerged the latest xorg, it wouldn't start, I tried to
'emerge -K xorg-x11', it said it was blocked by xorg-x11, I unmerged
xorg-x11, it still said it was blocked, I tried to unmerge xorg-x11
again and it said it wasn't installed.  It does sound like a portage
problem instead of a quickpkg problem.  I've finally gotten xorg
working again thanks to a closed bug record, and let me tell you this:

1. don't emerge hardened xorg without dlloader
2. lynx doesn't work with gmail (predictable)

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] Re: Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Something didn't get installed correctly.  All I did was emerge xfce4 and 
 it will list everything that needs to go in.  Also there is no .xfce4 for 
 4.2 - they use a ~/.config directory.  Once it's installed you can do 
 startxfce4 and see what happens.  If that works set up rc.conf.

Yeah, I finally noticed the ~/.config.  I'm still confused here
though.  Right now I'm running a major compile of kde so I can't
really try reinstalling xfce4 until that finishes.  Which appears to
be sometime next week : ).

But here's whats throwing me:  qpkg shows a bunch of xfce4 pkgs as
installed but emerge -v -p xfce4 shows a bunch to be installed.  Quite
a file are the same ones.  So does emerge not know what is or is not
installed?  Or something else likely to be wrong?

a qpkg -I |grep xfce shows this:

  x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce
  xfce-base/libxfce4mcs
  xfce-base/libxfce4util
  xfce-base/libxfcegui4
  xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager
  xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins
  xfce-base/xfce-utils
  xfce-base/xfce4
  xfce-base/xfce4-base
  xfce-base/xfce4-panel
  xfce-base/xfce4-session
  xfce-base/xfdesktop
  xfce-base/xffm
  xfce-base/xfprint
  xfce-base/xfwm4
  xfce-extra/xfcalendar
  xfce-extra/xfce4-battery
  xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox
  xfce-extra/xfce4-minicmd
  xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer
  xfce-extra/xfce4-netload
  xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop
  xfce-extra/xfce4-systemload
  xfce-extra/xfce4-systray
  xfce-extra/xfce4-themes
  xfce-extra/xfce4-toys
  xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher
  xfce-extra/xffm-icons
  xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes


But running:
 emerge -v -p xfcef


These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies    ...done!
[blocks B ] xfce-base/xfce4-base (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.0)
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfcalendar-4.2.0 [0.1.9] -debug -doc 301 kB 
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.2.0 [4.2.1] -debug -doc 0 kB 
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.2.0 [4.2.1] -debug -doc 0 kB 
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.2.0 [4.2.1] -debug -doc 0 kB 
[ebuild  N] xfce-extra/xfce4-appfinder-4.2.0  -debug -doc 329 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -alsa -debug -doc 370 kB 
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.0 [4.2.1] -debug -doc 0 kB 
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.2.0 [4.2.1] -debug -doc -gtkhtml 567 kB 
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.2.0 [4.2.1] -debug -doc 1,096 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 856 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 235 
kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfce4-toys-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 285 kB 
[ebuild  N] xfce-extra/xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.0  -debug -doc 1,290 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfce4-systray-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 199 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 457 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfprint-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 530 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xffm-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 2,315 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfce4-iconbox-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 280 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 2,375 kB 
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.0 [4.0.6] -debug -doc 0 kB 

Total size of downloads: 11,491 kB


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[gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Ed Jabbour
It had been a long while, so I ran an emerge -uDvp world.  Now, my wireless 
doesn't work.  I tried manual:

iwconfig wlan0 essid Arachne key s: open

I get: Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A :
  SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

iwconfig:
IEEE 80211g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname: Arachne

/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
  Starting wlan0
  Configuring wireless network for wlan0
  Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
  Failed to configure wireless for wlan0

/etc/conf.d/wireless is unchanged from when it worked, as is /etc/conf.d/net.  
The symlinks in /etc/init.d are also unchanged.I have baselayout 
1.11.10-r4.  At boot:

wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device mac address using driver netwg511
wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA with TKIP, WPA with AES/CCMP

All the ndiswrapper stuff looks OK as far as I can tell.   Any advice 
appreciated.  Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sunday 27 March 2005 16:05, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  But I noticed that the portage tree does not contain my version of
  gcc gcc-3.3.4-r1  it jumps from 3.3.2 to 3.3.5
 
  Is that significant?
 
  It is no more in portage, period.
  But this make me think your system is quite dated, when did you do
  an emerge --sync last time?
 
  Furthermore, what is the output of gcc-config -l ?

 The system was installed 3 days ago from the most current 2004.3
 livecd.  I then used the stage2 approach.

 I ran emerge -sync yesterday

 gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4 *

 What is the output of emerge -p gcc, then?

  Calculating dependencies ...done!
  [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.5-r1 [3.3.4-r1] (-altivec)
  -bootstrap -boundschecking -build -debug +fortran* -gcj +gtk*
  -hardened (-ip28) (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) +nls -nocxx
  -objc -static (-uclibc) 23,578 kB

  Total size of downloads: 23,578 kB

Gack...

 for a x86 stable box it should be 
 [ebuild   NS  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.5-r1

 guessing
 You did a fresh sync, but didn't update packages
 emerge -pDuv world should tell what to update.
 /guessing

Yikes.. good guess.  And maybe this is the source of some other probs
I've been posting about.

Can't try the remedy just now until the lenghthy compile of kde ends,
which appears may be in the next millinium.

But wait, I just thought... maybe it would be a good idea to kill that
and take care of the updating ... seems maybe the build of kde will
have problems otherwise.

Do you think I should kill the kde build?  It really does take a very
long time

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:31:03 -0800, John Myers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 08:35, Mark Knecht wrote:
 What I actually want to do is start Gnome on the remote box and see
  the whole Gnome desktop on my local box's second display. I do not
  want to upset the locally running window manager. Any ideas on how I
  do that?
 
 Do you run *dm on the remote box? If so, you might want to read up on XDMCP
 which can do what you want, though I don't know how to ssh-tunnel it (if you
 want to do that)

I do not (currently) run *dm on the remote machine. I do run one locally.)

I may have to look into that more. Not sure. I Really don't understand this yet.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:06:27 -0600, Jeff Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 26 March 2005 05:55 pm, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  I'm now logged on successfully to a remote machine. I can run X apps
  and display them here successfully. Let's say that I wanted to run
  Gnome on the machine at the other end but see it displayed here on
  display #2. How can I do that? If I do the same startx -- :2 it
  creates a second display at the far end. I'd like to pipe that to a
  second display here but I haven't grasped how to do that.
 
 Little google'in produced:
 
 http://www.issociate.de/board/post/28886/remote_X_sessions.html

Interesting read, but I think it's probably too far over my head..

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge/make failure i386 vs i686

2005-03-27 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 27 March 2005 20:46, Harry Putnam wrote:
 But wait, I just thought... maybe it would be a good idea to kill
 that and take care of the updating ... seems maybe the build of kde
 will have problems otherwise.

 Do you think I should kill the kde build?  It really does take a very
 long time

You can just wait and interrupt the emerge between two different 
packages. Those already emerged will not be reemerged.

In the meantime do emerge -f gcc in another shell/term to save some 
time :-)

Ciao
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Jason Cooper
Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 It had been a long while, so I ran an emerge -uDvp world.  Now, my wireless 
 doesn't work.  I tried manual:
 
 iwconfig wlan0 essid Arachne key s: open
 
 I get: Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A :
   SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
 
 iwconfig:
 IEEE 80211g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname: Arachne

I've had great success with:

# iwconfig ath0 essid MyESSIDName mode managed channel 6 enc \
0011-2233-4455-6677-8899-AABB-CC

 /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
   Starting wlan0
   Configuring wireless network for wlan0
   Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
   Failed to configure wireless for wlan0

I've recently had the same trouble with gentoo's init scripts, hence, 
the above command.

 /etc/conf.d/wireless is unchanged from when it worked, as is /etc/conf.d/net. 
  
 The symlinks in /etc/init.d are also unchanged.I have baselayout 
 1.11.10-r4.  At boot:
 
 wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device mac address using driver netwg511
 wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP, WPA with TKIP, WPA with AES/CCMP
 
 All the ndiswrapper stuff looks OK as far as I can tell.   Any advice 
 appreciated.  Thanks.

It looks like the bug is in gentoo's initscripts...  Give the command
above a try (with your info, of course) and let us know what happens.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Sun Mar-27-2005 at 12:38:41 PM -0600, Harry Putnam said:
[...]
 But running:
  emerge -v -p xfce
[snip emerge output]

You currently have some packages installed from Xfce 4.2.1 and some
others from 4.0.6. No wonder there are problems! :)

I have no idea how that happened. Perhaps you have changed between arch
and ~arch recently. It doesn't really matter, if you run that emerge
command it looks as though it will install all Xfce 4.2.0 packages. Try
that out and report back...

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[gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
I'm seeing crappy fonts in Firefox since emerging the latest xorg
version, and I am using the truetype-fonts USE flag.  I emerged it
once without the bitmap-fonts USE flag, and the fonts looked really
nice, but I noticed a message during the emerge warning me to enable
bitmap-fonts.  I re-emerged with bitmap-fonts enabled, and fonts have
looked crappy since.  I tried commenting out different font paths in
xorg.conf to no avail.  I did notice this in the emerge's output:

^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ...
/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line 1815:
16852 Segmentation fault 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdir)
${ROOT}/usr/bin/ttmkfdir -x 2 -e
${ROOT}/usr/share/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir -o ${x}/fonts.scale -d
${x}

Could that have anything to do with it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there an xfce4 user in the house?

2005-03-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
This can happen on the upgrade from 4.0.6 to 4.2.x.  He should do as you 
suggest and run the merge.  If there are still problems (as I had) there 
were some packages that needed to be removed to get rid of some blocks. 
There is a bug on it for xfce4 in bugzilla.

 On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Sami 
Samhuri wrote:

* On Sun Mar-27-2005 at 12:38:41 PM -0600, Harry Putnam said:
[...]
But running:
 emerge -v -p xfce
[snip emerge output]
You currently have some packages installed from Xfce 4.2.1 and some
others from 4.0.6. No wonder there are problems! :)
I have no idea how that happened. Perhaps you have changed between arch
and ~arch recently. It doesn't really matter, if you run that emerge
command it looks as though it will install all Xfce 4.2.0 packages. Try
that out and report back...

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[gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
I'm seeing crappy fonts in Firefox since emerging the latest xorg
version, and I am using the truetype-fonts USE flag.  I emerged it
once without the bitmap-fonts USE flag, and the fonts looked really
nice, but I noticed a message during the emerge warning me to enable
bitmap-fonts.  I re-emerged with bitmap-fonts enabled, and fonts have
looked crappy since.  I tried commenting out different font paths in
xorg.conf to no avail.  I did notice this in the emerge's output:

^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ...
/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line 1815:
16852 Segmentation fault 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdir)
${ROOT}/usr/bin/ttmkfdir -x 2 -e
${ROOT}/usr/share/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir -o ${x}/fonts.scale -d
${x}

Could that have anything to do with it?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Sunday 27 March 2005 02:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
 Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  It had been a long while, so I ran an emerge -uDvp world.  Now, my
  wireless doesn't work.  I tried manual:
 
  iwconfig wlan0 essid Arachne key s: open
 
  I get: Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
 
  iwconfig:
  IEEE 80211g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname: Arachne

 I've had great success with:

 # iwconfig ath0 essid MyESSIDName mode managed channel 6 enc \
 0011-2233-4455-6677-8899-AABB-CC

[snip]

 It looks like the bug is in gentoo's initscripts...  Give the command
 above a try (with your info, of course) and let us know what happens.

I ran what you suggested, and iwconfig now returns:

IEEE 80211g  ESSID: Arachne Nickname: Arachne
Mode: Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: router mac address
Bit Rate  . . .  etc

which is a heck of a lot more than I was getting before - at least the ap is 
recognized.  Where I go from here, though, I have no clue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 11:38 -0800, Grant wrote:
 I'm seeing crappy fonts in Firefox since emerging the latest xorg
 version, and I am using the truetype-fonts USE flag.  I emerged it
 once without the bitmap-fonts USE flag, and the fonts looked really
 nice, but I noticed a message during the emerge warning me to enable
 bitmap-fonts.  I re-emerged with bitmap-fonts enabled, and fonts have
 looked crappy since.  I tried commenting out different font paths in
 xorg.conf to no avail.  I did notice this in the emerge's output:
 
 ^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ...
 /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line 1815:
 16852 Segmentation fault 
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdir)
 ${ROOT}/usr/bin/ttmkfdir -x 2 -e
 ${ROOT}/usr/share/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir -o ${x}/fonts.scale -d
 ${x}
 
 Could that have anything to do with it?

OK OK heard you the first time!

 
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[gentoo-user] KHotkeys 3.4

2005-03-27 Thread Cédric FINANCE
Hi,
I get this error when I try to configure KHotkeys:
An error occurred while loading settings:/Accessibility/khotkeys:
The file or folder  does not exist.
How can I make it work?
KHotkeys is emerged and seems to be running.
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv khotkeys
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/khotkeys-3.4.0  +arts -debug +java 
-kdeenablefinal +kdexdeltas -xinerama 0 kB
ps uax | grep [k]hotkeys
pticedric   23429  0.0  2.5  25632 13212 ?S21:30   0:00 
khotkeys [kdeinit] khotkeys

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Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 10:35 -0800, Grant wrote:
   A little while ago Neil turned me on to quickpkg.  It sounds like a
   great way to protect yourself from the new package blues.  Is anyone
   using it like that?  What would be the best way to assure that your
   system always has a backup copy of your current version of a package
   available before emerging a new one?
  
  A more reliable method, assuming you have the drive space, is to add
  buildpkg to FEATURES in make.conf. Then emerge will automatically build a
  package when installing a package. It also means the package is verified,
  because ebuild builds it then installs from the package it just built, not
  the files in $PORTAGE_TMPDIR.
 
 If I'm understanding it correctly, FEATURES=buildpkg sounds less
 reliable for failed upgrade recovery.  If you want to roll back to a
 previous version of a package, you're going to end up with what was
 originally installed, not what was working on your system right before
 the upgrade, right?

wrong, as the package name contains the version information - eg
xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.tbz2 not xorg-x11.tbz2

so unless you are constantly re-installing the same package with
different use flags or cflags you should get a different binary pavckage
name each time.


 
 Also, I tried to use quickpkg to protect me from any problems
 upgrading xorg and I ended up totally screwed.  I quickpackaged my
 installed xorg, emerged the latest xorg, it wouldn't start, I tried to
 'emerge -K xorg-x11', it said it was blocked by xorg-x11, I unmerged
 xorg-x11, it still said it was blocked, I tried to unmerge xorg-x11
 again and it said it wasn't installed.  It does sound like a portage
 problem instead of a quickpkg problem.  I've finally gotten xorg
 working again thanks to a closed bug record, and let me tell you this:
 
 1. don't emerge hardened xorg without dlloader
 2. lynx doesn't work with gmail (predictable)
 
 - Grant
 
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[gentoo-user] sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2)

2005-03-27 Thread Robert Persson
I am getting tied in knots trying to emerge kde 3.4.

I get the message sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking 
sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2), even though emerge -C 
linux-headers gives me a message saying that linux-headers is not installed.

The thing is that I have some version or other of the 2.6.11-mm2 sources 
installed, so I shouldn't need either of these packages, should I?

I imagine that if I tried to install the modular kde ebuilds, as opposed to 
emerging monolithic kde, I might be able to work round this problem, but I 
would have to unmerge kde before I started wouldn't I?  That would put me at 
risk of being without a desktop manager for quite a while if something went 
wrong, wouldn't it?

I am also told that akgregator is blocking kdepim.  Does that mean that 
akgregator is now part of kdepim?

I would be very grateful for any help on this.  I need to upgrade because 3.3 
has a serious bug that I need to get away from.

Many thanks
Robert
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Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-27 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Grant wrote:
 I did notice this in the emerge's output:

 ^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ...
 /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line
 1815: 16852 Segmentation fault
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdir)
 ${ROOT}/usr/bin/ttmkfdir -x 2 -e

emerge --oneshot ttmkfdir;

and try xorg again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2)

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 12:37 -0800, Robert Persson wrote:
 I am getting tied in knots trying to emerge kde 3.4.
 
 I get the message sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking 
 sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2), even though emerge -C 
 linux-headers gives me a message saying that linux-headers is not installed.

I had this problem last night. emerge linux26-headers solved it.

 
 The thing is that I have some version or other of the 2.6.11-mm2 sources 
 installed, so I shouldn't need either of these packages, should I?

yes, don't ask me why, I asked once but didn't understand the replies, I
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Jason Cooper
Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 02:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
  Ed Jabbour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
   It had been a long while, so I ran an emerge -uDvp world.  Now, my
   wireless doesn't work.  I tried manual:
  
   iwconfig wlan0 essid Arachne key s: open
  
   I get: Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A :
 SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
  
   iwconfig:
   IEEE 80211g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname: Arachne
 
  I've had great success with:
 
  # iwconfig ath0 essid MyESSIDName mode managed channel 6 enc \
  0011-2233-4455-6677-8899-AABB-CC
 
 [snip]
 
  It looks like the bug is in gentoo's initscripts...  Give the command
  above a try (with your info, of course) and let us know what happens.
 
 I ran what you suggested, and iwconfig now returns:
 
 IEEE 80211g  ESSID: Arachne Nickname: Arachne
 Mode: Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: router mac address
 Bit Rate  . . .  etc
 
 which is a heck of a lot more than I was getting before - at least the ap is 
 recognized.  Where I go from here, though, I have no clue.

Oops, forgot that part.  Assuming your AP is running a dhcp server, all
you should have to do now is:

# dhcpcd ath0

Mine takes 10 to 30 seconds before it returns the prompt to me.  Not
sure why... Then I ping google.com for good measure.

hth,

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Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg

2005-03-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 10:35:09 -0800, Grant wrote:

 If I'm understanding it correctly, FEATURES=buildpkg sounds less
 reliable for failed upgrade recovery.  If you want to roll back to a
 previous version of a package, you're going to end up with what was
 originally installed, not what was working on your system right before
 the upgrade, right?

Wrong. buildpkg builds a binary package for each package before installing
it, so you have the current version and all previous versions, since you
enabled buildpkg, in PKGDIR. It means you can rol back as far as you like.


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[gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2)

2005-03-27 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Sunday 27 March 2005 22:37, Robert Persson wrote:
 I am getting tied in knots trying to emerge kde 3.4.

 I get the message sys-kernel/linux-headers (is blocking
 sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2), even though emerge -C
 linux-headers gives me a message saying that linux-headers is not
 installed.
Any chanche it's injected?
What's the exact message if you try emerge -p 
=sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2 ?

 The thing is that I have some version or other of the 2.6.11-mm2
 sources installed, so I shouldn't need either of these packages,
 should I?
No, IIRC, it's due to nptl.

 I imagine that if I tried to install the modular kde ebuilds, as
 opposed to emerging monolithic kde, I might be able to work round
 this problem, but I would have to unmerge kde before I started
 wouldn't I?  That would put me at risk of being without a desktop
 manager for quite a while if something went wrong, wouldn't it?

 I am also told that akgregator is blocking kdepim.  Does that mean
 that akgregator is now part of kdepim?

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2100299-highlight-konquerorakregator.html#2100299

 I would be very grateful for any help on this.  I need to upgrade
 because 3.3 has a serious bug that I need to get away from.

 Many thanks
 Robert
Ciao
Francesco

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
  I did notice this in the emerge's output:
 
  ^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ...
  /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line
  1815: 16852 Segmentation fault
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdir)
  ${ROOT}/usr/bin/ttmkfdir -x 2 -e
 
 emerge --oneshot ttmkfdir;
 
 and try xorg again.

Ok, do you mean emerge xorg again?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive

2005-03-27 Thread David Corbin
  I've tried the command given above, and while it generates some output,
  building continues to fail with the same error.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4
   * Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...
   *   [1/5] Scanning /lib ...
   *   [2/5] Scanning /usr/lib ...
   *   [3/5] Scanning /usr/kde/3.3/lib ...
   *   [4/5] Scanning /usr/local/lib ...
   *   [5/5] Scanning /usr/qt/3/lib ...

 What's the output of gcc-config -l(that's a small L, not i)

 for example, mine is:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110 *
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110-hardened
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110-hardenednopie
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110-hardenednossp


[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/lib/gcc-lib] gcc-config -l
[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5 *
[2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardened
[3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednopie
[4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednossp


 When you do the  fix_libtool_files.sh x.x.x thing, you need to refer to the
 gcc version previously used, not the current one- at least that's what
 worked for me.

I think I did.

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Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
  If I'm understanding it correctly, FEATURES=buildpkg sounds less
  reliable for failed upgrade recovery.  If you want to roll back to a
  previous version of a package, you're going to end up with what was
  originally installed, not what was working on your system right before
  the upgrade, right?
 
 Wrong. buildpkg builds a binary package for each package before installing
 it, so you have the current version and all previous versions, since you
 enabled buildpkg, in PKGDIR. It means you can rol back as far as you like.

Ok, I was thinking it wouldn't take into account changes you make
since it was installed, but the only changes should be in /etc/ and
those would be preserved.  I see buildpkg and quickpkg both utilize
$PKGDIR.  Very nice.

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] [ot] Happy Easter

2005-03-27 Thread Ian K
If you celebrate it, Happy Easter!
I wish you all a happy and semi-productive holiday. :)
Thanks again for everyone's help with everything.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:31, John Myers wrote:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 08:35, Mark Knecht wrote:
 What I actually want to do is start Gnome on the remote box and see
  the whole Gnome desktop on my local box's second display. I do not
  want to upset the locally running window manager. Any ideas on how I
  do that?

Here's another idea:
I don't have GNOME, so I don't know the command to start it, but try this:

local$ Xorg :2
local$ export DISLPAY=:2
local$ ssh -X remote command-to-start-GNOME   # _not_ startx

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Sunday 27 March 2005 03:51 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
   I've had great success with:
  
   # iwconfig ath0 essid MyESSIDName mode managed channel 6 enc \
   0011-2233-4455-6677-8899-AABB-CC
 
  [snip]
 
   It looks like the bug is in gentoo's initscripts...  Give the command
   above a try (with your info, of course) and let us know what happens.
 
  I ran what you suggested, and iwconfig now returns:
 
  IEEE 80211g  ESSID: Arachne Nickname: Arachne
  Mode: Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: router mac address
  Bit Rate  . . .  etc
 
  which is a heck of a lot more than I was getting before - at least the
  ap is recognized.  Where I go from here, though, I have no clue.

 Oops, forgot that part.  Assuming your AP is running a dhcp server, all
 you should have to do now is:

 # dhcpcd ath0

Yes!  However, I wonder what script has changed.  Wireless used to work on 
boot - I could see it scan and pickup the correct ESSID.  Now, net.wlan0 
fails, and I must run the commands you've outlined.  But, it works, and 
something is better than nothing.  Thanks a lot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:31, John Myers wrote:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 08:35, Mark Knecht wrote:
 What I actually want to do is start Gnome on the remote box and see
  the whole Gnome desktop on my local box's second display. I do not
  want to upset the locally running window manager. Any ideas on how I
  do that?

 Do you run *dm on the remote box? If so, you might want to read up on XDMCP
 which can do what you want, though I don't know how to ssh-tunnel it (if
 you want to do that)




Sorry for replying to myself ... again...

You could also try with Xnest instead of Xorg, which would put it in a window 
inside your running X session
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Stroller
On Mar 27, 2005, at 8:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:

/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
  Starting wlan0
  Configuring wireless network for wlan0
  Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
  Failed to configure wireless for wlan0
I've recently had the same trouble with gentoo's init scripts, hence,
the above command.
Have you tried reporting it as a bug? Uberlord is making quite active 
development on the next generation network configuration at the 
moment.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Stroller
On Mar 27, 2005, at 7:41 pm, Ed Jabbour wrote:
/etc/conf.d/wireless is unchanged from when it worked, as is 
/etc/conf.d/net.
The symlinks in /etc/init.d are also unchanged.I have baselayout
1.11.10-r4.
That's an unstable baselayout isn't it? I don't have a current Gentoo 
box up right now on which to check, but I think at least it's quite 
recent. Check out /etc/conf.d/net.example  
/etc/conf.d/wireless.example if you have them - I think that if you do 
you might find there are quite a few changes in the way configuration 
should be made.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] Happy Easter

2005-03-27 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Ian K:
 If you celebrate it, Happy Easter!
 I wish you all a happy and semi-productive holiday. :)
 Thanks again for everyone's help with everything.
 Ian

Spent the morning colouring eggs with my kid. First time in probably 20 years 
or so. The smell of the dye brought back memories immediately.

Maybe I'll write a 12 volume set of books now...

Happy Easter.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem With Tulip Module

2005-03-27 Thread Kathy Wills
Jerry McBride wrote:

On Sunday 27 March 2005 05:04 am, Kathy Wills wrote:

---big snip---

  

Kernel version is 2.6.11-r4. I'm using the tulip module that I have
always used. From kernel .config:

# Tulip family network device support
#
CONFIG_NET_TULIP=y
CONFIG_DE2104X=m
CONFIG_TULIP=m
CONFIG_TULIP_MWI=y
CONFIG_TULIP_MMIO=y
CONFIG_TULIP_NAPI=y
CONFIG_TULIP_NAPI_HW_MITIGATION=y
CONFIG_DE4X5=m
CONFIG_WINBOND_840=m
CONFIG_DM9102=m



Did some googling and it seems that the error message can be ignored, unless 
of course it's giving you operational problems. From what I have read, it 
appears to be a hardware mix problem involving dma issues. Over here I run 
MSI, SOYOTEC and ABIT motherboards and as I mentioned in my previous email, 
no such error message has turned up in either messages or dmesg output.

Try pulling the linksys card, clean the edge and slap in back into the 
motherboard in a different slot.

  

Didn't solve the issue. I guess as soon as I can, I'll have to get a
different motherboard in order to solve this. Either that or a different
network card.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local vs. remote startx/Gnome

2005-03-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:25:59 -0800, John Myers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:31, John Myers wrote:
  On Sunday 27 March 2005 08:35, Mark Knecht wrote:
  What I actually want to do is start Gnome on the remote box and see
   the whole Gnome desktop on my local box's second display. I do not
   want to upset the locally running window manager. Any ideas on how I
   do that?
 
 Here's another idea:
 I don't have GNOME, so I don't know the command to start it, but try this:
 
 local$ Xorg :2
 local$ export DISLPAY=:2
 local$ ssh -X remote command-to-start-GNOME   # _not_ startx
 

Hi,
   This seems to be getting closer. At least both sides keep trying.
OK, I seemed to get the closest to successy by doing this. (Dragonfly
is a local machine on my network.)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ xhost +Dragonfly
Dragonfly being added to access control list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ export DISPLAY=:2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$ ssh -X dragonfly /usr/bin/gnome-session
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.
Xlib: connection to localhost:10.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 
(gnome-session:9576): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mark]$

   Is this possibly because I don't have specific ports open? 

   Not sure about the Xnest suggestion as this is a network of both
Gentoo and FC2 machines and my FC2 machines do not seem to have Xnest.

   Thanks for your ideas!

Cheers,
Mark
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[gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Being a new user, I'm wanting to get an overview of what an average
gentoo user might do or need to do over a 6mnth period.

I installed 3 days ago and am still getting things setup.  Seems like
an awfull lot of time has gone into emerging stuff I wanted installed.

Now it turns out there is an update to portage and my system is
telling me it needs to update portage and then update the already
installed packages.  2 more huge chunks of time lost to compiling.

An activity that seems so intensive that I have been reluctant to and
doubted the advisability of installing or making configs during the
compile process.

So far I've spent a very lot of time waiting for something to finish
emerging.   It seems like things like Mozilla take an extrordinary
long time.  

I'm wondering what a user might see over 6 mnths.   How many portage
updates in that amount of time.  Howmany `update worlds'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lame fonts in xorg (bitmap-fonts ?)

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
   I did notice this in the emerge's output:
  
   ^[[32;01m*^[[0m Creating fonts.scale files... ...
   /usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild: line
   1815: 16852 Segmentation fault
   LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:${ROOT}/usr/$(get_libdir)
   ${ROOT}/usr/bin/ttmkfdir -x 2 -e
 
  emerge --oneshot ttmkfdir;
 
  and try xorg again.

I've re-emerged ttmkfdir and then xorg-x11 with the same segfault at
the end of the xorg emerge and the same fonts in Firefox.  What else
can I try?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Stroller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  
  On Mar 27, 2005, at 8:24 pm, Jason Cooper wrote:
  
  /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start:
Starting wlan0
Configuring wireless network for wlan0
Couldn't associate with any access points on wlan0
Failed to configure wireless for wlan0
  
  I've recently had the same trouble with gentoo's init scripts, hence,
  the above command.
  
  Have you tried reporting it as a bug? Uberlord is making quite active 
  development on the next generation network configuration at the 
  moment.
 
 shame :(
 
 I'll admit, I had thought about it as I wrote it.  When I encountered
 the problem last night, I thought it was just an out-lier.  I run into 
 that *alot* because I can't leave well enough alone :)  However, it
 would appear my case is not an out-lier. 
 
 I'll check bugzilla to see if anyone else has reported it...

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86904

Couldn't find anything similar, so I started a new one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xfmedia Segmentation fault

2005-03-27 Thread Grant
  Make sure you have the D-BUS daemon running:
  # emerge sys-apps/dbus
  # /etc/init.d/dbus start
 
  See if that helps.
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 I don't have dbus running (although it is installed), but I am going
 to stick with 2.6.11.  The only problem I've found with it is my
 touchpad doesn't register small movements.  It's really annoying
 actually.  But should I add dbus to the default runlevel anyway?
 
 - Grant

emerging the latest synaptics package and changing the mouse driver in
xorg.conf to synaptics fixed this.  My touchpad is an Alps and there
are some important settings for xorg.conf in README.alps.gz.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Jason Cooper
Harry Putnam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Being a new user, I'm wanting to get an overview of what an average
 gentoo user might do or need to do over a 6mnth period.
 
 I installed 3 days ago and am still getting things setup.  Seems like
 an awfull lot of time has gone into emerging stuff I wanted installed.
 
 Now it turns out there is an update to portage and my system is
 telling me it needs to update portage and then update the already
 installed packages.  2 more huge chunks of time lost to compiling.
 
 An activity that seems so intensive that I have been reluctant to and
 doubted the advisability of installing or making configs during the
 compile process.
 
 So far I've spent a very lot of time waiting for something to finish
 emerging.   It seems like things like Mozilla take an extrordinary
 long time.  
 
 I'm wondering what a user might see over 6 mnths.   How many portage
 updates in that amount of time.  Howmany `update worlds'.

Of the 5 machines I have running gentoo, I would say on average I run
'emerge -uDav world' from every other day to once a week.  However, I
sure don't sit around and watch it.  

Typically, I'll launch the emerge, then start reading email, news, etc,
and writing code, etc while it works in the background on the same
machine.  I've never had an emerge stop me from getting work done.  

Hell, a lot of times I completely forget my CPU is pegged out running a
merge, till I flip over to that desktop to look at something, then I see
compiler messages flying by... Basically, it doesn't affect the UI at all. 

hth,

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[gentoo-user] configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables help!

2005-03-27 Thread Shaw Vrana
I've been reading up on this problem at 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-27486-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html
 
and bugs.gentoo.org, but I've not yet been successful fixing my gcc woes.
I believe this began after a portage update.

perhaps useful, maybe not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 47]% gcc-config -l
[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5 *
[2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardened
[3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednopie
[4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.5-hardenednossp
[5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3
[6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-hardened
[7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-hardenednopie
[8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-hardenednossp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 48]% grep CFLAGS /etc/make.conf
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

I ran fix_libtool_files.sh on 3.4.3, but I still get the error.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Shaw

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 emerge (1 of 9) sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 to /
 md5 src_uri ;-) patch-2.5.9.tar.gz
 Unpacking 
source...http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-27486-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html
 Unpacking patch-2.5.9.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/patch-2.5.9/work
 Source unpacked.
configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use --host.
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 38, Exitcode 2
!!! emake failed
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Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 19:01 -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
 Harry Putnam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
  Being a new user, I'm wanting to get an overview of what an average
  gentoo user might do or need to do over a 6mnth period.
  
  I installed 3 days ago and am still getting things setup.  Seems like
  an awfull lot of time has gone into emerging stuff I wanted installed.
  
  Now it turns out there is an update to portage and my system is
  telling me it needs to update portage and then update the already
  installed packages.  2 more huge chunks of time lost to compiling.
  
  An activity that seems so intensive that I have been reluctant to and
  doubted the advisability of installing or making configs during the
  compile process.
  
  So far I've spent a very lot of time waiting for something to finish
  emerging.   It seems like things like Mozilla take an extrordinary
  long time.  
  
  I'm wondering what a user might see over 6 mnths.   How many portage
  updates in that amount of time.  Howmany `update worlds'.
 
 Of the 5 machines I have running gentoo, I would say on average I run
 'emerge -uDav world' from every other day to once a week.  However, I
 sure don't sit around and watch it.  
 
 Typically, I'll launch the emerge, then start reading email, news, etc,
 and writing code, etc while it works in the background on the same
 machine.  I've never had an emerge stop me from getting work done.  
 
 Hell, a lot of times I completely forget my CPU is pegged out running a
 merge, till I flip over to that desktop to look at something, then I see
 compiler messages flying by... Basically, it doesn't affect the UI at all.

Tip for Harry:

In /etc/make.conf set:

PORTAGE_NICENESS=19

and the emergeing will go into the background and give way to other
processes with higher priority.

Also you don't need to update just because you can. If, for example, you
stick to security updates, you will have far less compiling. However you
may also miss something exciting on the leading edge.

And yes mozilla takes a while. But if you really want to wait, try
openoffice.

As Jason says, just let it do the compiling in the background, and get
on with using the computer. :-)

  
 
 hth,
 
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[gentoo-user] Re: binary server problems (`emerge -gK --deep world`)

2005-03-27 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Jesse Guardiani wrote:

 Jesse Guardiani wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm getting caught by all kinds of weirdness. It's probably
 just user error, but it feels like a bug. Can someone take
 a look at my output? Here it is:
 
 [19:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[/usr/portage/packages/All]# emerge -gK --deep world
 Fetching binary packages info...
 Loaded metadata pickle.
 Location has moved: http://office.wingnet.net/gentoo-packages/
 cache miss: 'x' --- cache hit: 'o'
 o
   -- DONE!
 
 Calculating world dependencies
 *** Package in world file is not installed: sys-apps/sh-utils
 
 *** Package in world file is not installed: sys-apps/fileutils
 
 *** Package in world file is not installed: sys-apps/textutils
 ...done!
sys-process/procps-3.2.4-r3
sys-process/daemontools-0.76-r4
sys-process/at-3.1.8-r11
sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r4
 
 These are required by '--usepkgonly' -- Terminating.
 
 Exit 1
 
 But all of those software packages exist on the binary server:
 
 # ls -al /usr/portage/packages/All/procps-3.2.4-r3.tbz2
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 227892 Mar 25 14:34
 /usr/portage/packages/All/procps-3.2.4-r3.tbz2
 # ls -al /usr/portage/packages/All/daemontools-0.76-r4.tbz2
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 73023 Mar 25 14:34
 /usr/portage/packages/All/daemontools-0.76-r4.tbz2
 # ls -al /usr/portage/packages/All/at-3.1.8-r10.tbz2
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 71593 Mar 23 19:27
 /usr/portage/packages/All/at-3.1.8-r10.tbz2
 # ls -al /usr/portage/packages/All/vixie-cron-4.1-r4.tbz2
 -rw-r--r--  1 root root 94559 Mar 25 14:34
 /usr/portage/packages/All/vixie-cron-4.1-r4.tbz2
 
 However, these files were probably built on a different server and
 transfered to the binary server's package dir later. Does anything
 else have to be done before they're usable by clients?
 
 NOTE: fixpackages has been run both on the binary server and on the
 client.
 
 This doesn't look right either, does it?
 
 # emerge -g --update --deep world
 Fetching binary packages info...
 Loaded metadata pickle.
 Location has moved: http://office.wingnet.net/gentoo-packages/
 cache miss: 'x' --- cache hit: 'o'
 oo
   -- DONE!
 
 Calculating world dependencies /
 emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy virtual/snmp.
 
 
 !!! Problem with binary net-firewall/fwbuilder-2.0.0
 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.
 
 !!! Depgraph creation failed.
 Exit 1

FYI to anyone who has problems with `emerge -gD world`, `emerge -GD world`,
`emerge -gDK world`, `emerge -GDK world`, `emerge -gDk world`, emerge -GDk 
world`,
or `emerge -kD world` complaining inexplicably about DEPEND problems 
(particularly
about virtual/snmp): I think it's a bug, and I got tired of trying to fix it
without knowing what caused it, so I worked around this issue locally by sharing
my /usr/portage/packages and /usr/portage/distfiles directories via NFS on the
local LAN and using a slightly modified pye (Pick Your Emerge) script. First,
download pye:

http://tinyurl.com/6td25

Then modify it like so (causes it to try a binary package emerge for each ebuild
it attempts to emerge):

# diff -u pye~ pye
--- pye~2005-03-26 14:58:56.0 -0500
+++ pye 2005-03-26 15:06:14.0 -0500
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@

 def mergethis(package):
 Merge given package and return True if successful.
-os.system(emerge %s % package)
+os.system(emerge -k %s % package)
 global pkgdict
 package = package.split(/)[1]
 vartree = portage.vartree()
Exit 1


Then run this command:

./pye -e uD world

If your packages and distfiles directories are properly 

[gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Typically, I'll launch the emerge, then start reading email, news, etc,
 and writing code, etc while it works in the background on the same
 machine.  I've never had an emerge stop me from getting work done.  

With an --update world running are you able to emerge packages you
want to install? A lot of what I have to do right now involves
installations.  I assumed that was not a wise move.

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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4 b0rkage with segmentation fault

2005-03-27 Thread Christian Bartels
Am Freitag, 25. März 2005 12:01 schrieb Stroller:
 A bit of searching suggested that dev-perl/Locale-gettext might be
 responsible for stuff associated with `env
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${D}/$(get_libdir), so I just remerged that  am
 trying again glibc. Any other suggestions whilst I waitr to see if  
 that worked would be very gratefully received, however.

hi,

did it worked for you? i am having the same problem at the moment.

thx a lot!

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[gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks for the tip..

 As Jason says, just let it do the compiling in the background, and get
 on with using the computer. :-)

No, I insist on watching every word go by :).

Honestly though, most of what needs doing right now involves using
emerge.  Once the systemm is tuned up the way I like it will be
different.  But for now, I end up wanting to use emerge but can't
because of these massive chunks of time needed to compile things like
mozilla or kde.  Not sure I understand why binaries for such things
aren't commonly used.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless went kaboom

2005-03-27 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Sunday 27 March 2005 05:49 pm, Stroller wrote:
 On Mar 27, 2005, at 7:41 pm, Ed Jabbour wrote:
  /etc/conf.d/wireless is unchanged from when it worked, as is
  /etc/conf.d/net.
  The symlinks in /etc/init.d are also unchanged.I have baselayout
  1.11.10-r4.

 That's an unstable baselayout isn't it? I don't have a current Gentoo
 box up right now on which to check, but I think at least it's quite
 recent. Check out /etc/conf.d/net.example 
 /etc/conf.d/wireless.example if you have them - I think that if you do
 you might find there are quite a few changes in the way configuration
 should be made.

1.11.10-r4 is marked ~ - testing.  I'll try going back to 1.9.4-r6, marked 
stable.  That's what I was using when everything worked.  I'll check the 
examples first, though.  Unfortunately, I do not have access to the laptop 
right now.  Wife's watching a DVD.  (I try telling her that the raison 
d'etre of a machine is fiddling, but she always insists on actually *using* 
it!!):) 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Jason Cooper
Harry Putnam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 Jason Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Typically, I'll launch the emerge, then start reading email, news, etc,
  and writing code, etc while it works in the background on the same
  machine.  I've never had an emerge stop me from getting work done.  
 
 With an --update world running are you able to emerge packages you
 want to install? A lot of what I have to do right now involves
 installations.  I assumed that was not a wise move.

ehhh, YMMV. :)  I've done it, but held my breath while doing it.  I
assume you are refering to merging two packages simultaneously.  The
compiling won't interfere with the other, but installation could be
interesting if the two packages cross paths in some way.  Also, since
compiling sucks up 99% of CPU, both packages will take longer.

Normally, if my box is doing an '--update world' and I want to compile
my code, or merge a new package, I'll CTL-Z the '--update world'.  This
pauses it until I type 'fg' or 'bg' in the same console (forground and
background, respectively).  I've never had a paused and resumed merge
fail on me, however, I have forgotten to resume a few.  The terminal is
kind enough to remind you when you try to close it. ;-)

hth,

Cooper.
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[gentoo-user] Re: What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Harry Putnam wrote:

 different.  But for now, I end up wanting to use emerge but can't
 because of these massive chunks of time needed to compile things like
 mozilla or kde.  Not sure I understand why binaries for such things
 aren't commonly used.

IMHO, use the '-bin' (binary) packages for mozilla, firefox, and openoffice. 
They are usually available, and work pretty good.  On my 1.6GHz PentM, OOo
takes about 4-5GB of filespace (tmp) and a day.  Not worth it to me.

I don't think KDE packages are avail with a binary package.

Just because you use Gentoo doesn't mean you can't use binary packages. 
Some are in portage, and some are not.

And yes, the install takes days of tweaking.  But look it at as an
investment.  Unlike other OS's (e.g. Fedora), you'll only need to install
Gentoo *once* and still be up2date.

About once a week I run:

# emerge --sync
# emerge -a --update world

And go to bed.  In the morning it's usually done.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: KDE Emerge problem

2005-03-27 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Ian K wrote:

 I know that it was the first ebuild of the emerge process. Upon doing an
 emege -p kde i get:
 
 [ebuild U ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e [0.9.7c-r1]
 
 (thats the first ebuild.)

Just to be sure, try this:

# emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e

Note that OpenSSL is a stable ebuild, so you *shouldn't* be having trouble
with it.  The errors you posted before look like errors with portage.  So
if it fails, try this:

# emerge --sync  emerge portage \
emerge metadata  emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e

All on one line.  (Note that the 'emerge metadata' might actually be unnecc.
-- I'm not sure.)

Post your results.  HTH!


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[gentoo-user] I've tied my OS in a knot

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam

On a recently intstalled 2004.3 from stage2.  I just ran an --update
portage as emerge was encouraging me to do.  Somehow with that and
other installations and removal I've done in the last 2 days.  I've
arrived at sort of catch 22.

I'm told some packages are blocking an --update world.  When I check
it out I see:

[blocks B ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 (is blocking
x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1)

opengl-update is not installed.  at least according to qpkg -I.  And
because when I saw the message I thought I could move on by
uninstalling it.  But the --update still fails.

So, I thought I could just dodge it and update some of the other
stuff, but other packages are also being blocked by this situation.

As a very new user... I'm not sure what to do about this

Any recommendations?

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RE: [gentoo-user] I've tied my OS in a knot

2005-03-27 Thread Brandon Enright
I ran into the exact same problem yesterday on my laptop.  None of my packages
were set to accept ~x86.

I tried playing around with /etc/portage/package.keywords and accepting
different combinations of ~x86 for the packages and still couldn't resolve the
blocking.

I ended up unmerging xorg-x11 and other blocking packages (ati-drivers).  Then
re-emerging xorg-x11 and other packages.  This solved all the blocking issues.
I suspect the problem was that I hadn't fully updated the world in a few months.
Several times I've synced and started an updated but not finished.  Only to
later sync and start another update.

Hopefully manually removing the blocking packages will resolve the issue for you
too.

--Brandon

 
 On a recently intstalled 2004.3 from stage2.  I just ran an --update
 portage as emerge was encouraging me to do.  Somehow with that and
 other installations and removal I've done in the last 2 days.  I've
 arrived at sort of catch 22.
 
 I'm told some packages are blocking an --update world.  When I check
 it out I see:
 
 [blocks B ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 (is blocking
 x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1)
 
 opengl-update is not installed.  at least according to qpkg -I.  And
 because when I saw the message I thought I could move on by
 uninstalling it.  But the --update still fails.
 
 So, I thought I could just dodge it and update some of the other
 stuff, but other packages are also being blocked by this situation.
 
 As a very new user... I'm not sure what to do about this
 
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[gentoo-user] Who is ndc38841 why is he getting my mail?

2005-03-27 Thread Ed Jabbour
My posts here get posted, but I also have been receiving Delivery Status 
Notification (Failure) from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[gentoo-user] New features in 2005.0?

2005-03-27 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
Great to hear about the new release coming out.
As I have a few Gentoo machines which run fine so mainly I am interested 
in is whats new/changed in this release to get a feel for the progress 
of Gentoo. I had a look around the site for a Readme or Changelog but 
there doesn't seem to be much. The only thing I found was the blurb on 
the store's page 
(http://store.gentoo.org/product_info.php?cPath=2products_id=49):
*2005.0 summary for Linux geeks:* Gentoo Linux 2005.0 now defaults to 
using kernel 2.6, and uses udev by default. Firefox 1.0.1 is included. 
[snip]

It's got 2.6 and udev. Apart from obviously newer package versions on 
the CDs which we get to know about when we sync are there any other 
changes and additions worth a separate mention?

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[gentoo-user] Re: I've tied my OS in a knot

2005-03-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Brandon Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hopefully manually removing the blocking packages will resolve the issue for 
 you
 too.

Thanks.  I thought about doing that too, but hoped to hear of
something less drastic first.  These really long compile times makes
one want to find some other way.  I'm running a p4 2gz but still
things seem to take very lng to compile.

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[gentoo-user] Mouse issues

2005-03-27 Thread Tim Brown
I have a logitech MX500 usb mouse and i'm having a difficult time
getting it to work properly, need a little help.

left and right mouse buttons work ok but the scroll wheel and other
buttons do not work.

This is the Core Pointers Input Device Section of my xorg.conf file

Section InputDevice

# Identifier and driver

Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolAuto
Option Device  /dev/usbmouse

# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.

#Option Resolution256

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#Option Protocol  Xqueue

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#Option BaudRate  9600
#Option SampleRate150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#Option Emulate3Buttons
#Option Emulate3Timeout50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#Option ChordMiddle

EndSection

What do I need to change or add here?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Who is ndc38841 why is he getting my mail?

2005-03-27 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
Yup

I got that message when I replied a couple of threads of mine! I
wonder what's going on as well.


On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:38:49 -0500, Ed Jabbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My posts here get posted, but I also have been receiving Delivery Status
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 This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
 
 Delivery to the following recipients failed.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 with my post attached.  Anybody else seeing this?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Who is ndc38841 why is he getting my mail?

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
I'd say its pretty clear. Some f*wit has cancelled his email account but
left himself subscribed. 


when his list mail bounces it comes back to the sender - you (or me for
this message).



On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 08:54 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 Yup
 
 I got that message when I replied a couple of threads of mine! I
 wonder what's going on as well.
 
 
 On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:38:49 -0500, Ed Jabbour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My posts here get posted, but I also have been receiving Delivery Status
  Notification (Failure) from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
  
  Delivery to the following recipients failed.
  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  with my post attached.  Anybody else seeing this?
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] New features in 2005.0?

2005-03-27 Thread Dion Sole
The stageballs no longer have the problem with /var/db.
If you know what that means, you'll know why it's important.


Eugene Rosenzweig wrote:
 Great to hear about the new release coming out.
 
 As I have a few Gentoo machines which run fine so mainly I am interested
 in is whats new/changed in this release to get a feel for the progress
 of Gentoo. I had a look around the site for a Readme or Changelog but
 there doesn't seem to be much. The only thing I found was the blurb on
 the store's page
 (http://store.gentoo.org/product_info.php?cPath=2products_id=49):
 *2005.0 summary for Linux geeks:* Gentoo Linux 2005.0 now defaults to
 using kernel 2.6, and uses udev by default. Firefox 1.0.1 is included.
 [snip]
 
 It's got 2.6 and udev. Apart from obviously newer package versions on
 the CDs which we get to know about when we sync are there any other
 changes and additions worth a separate mention?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Who is ndc38841 why is he getting my mail?

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:48 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 I'd say its pretty clear. Some f*wit has cancelled his email account but
 left himself subscribed. 

or possibly his mailbox is full. either way someone should remove him
from the list.

 
 
 when his list mail bounces it comes back to the sender - you (or me for
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Re: [gentoo-user] I've tied my OS in a knot

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 20:10 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 On a recently intstalled 2004.3 from stage2.  I just ran an --update
 portage as emerge was encouraging me to do.  Somehow with that and
 other installations and removal I've done in the last 2 days.  I've
 arrived at sort of catch 22.
 
 I'm told some packages are blocking an --update world.  When I check
 it out I see:
 
 [blocks B ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 (is blocking
 x11-base/opengl-update-2.1.1-r1)


Hey Harry, what command are you running when you get that message? 

What version of xorg-x11 do you have at present?

It seems the answer may be this: Simply emerge xorg-x11-6.8.0-r4 without
the update flag, ie emerge xorg-x11 should do it. Then do the update
thing.



 
 opengl-update is not installed.  at least according to qpkg -I.  And
 because when I saw the message I thought I could move on by
 uninstalling it.  But the --update still fails.
 
 So, I thought I could just dodge it and update some of the other
 stuff, but other packages are also being blocked by this situation.
 
 As a very new user... I'm not sure what to do about this
 
 Any recommendations?
 
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[gentoo-user] Scanner and permissions.

2005-03-27 Thread Pupeno
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Hello gentooers.
I have a Plustek Parallel Port scanner working (using parport0), but only as 
root, how do I get it to work for normal users ?
I've read that I should tweak some permissions, but I'm not sure which ones.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Scanner and permissions.

2005-03-27 Thread Nick Rout
Locate the device that is being used as the scanner device.
look at its permissions and ownership.
make sure you are looking at the device, not a symlink to it. 


the standard approach is to give a group (eg scanner group) permissions
to the device, then add allowed users ot that group.


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 Hello gentooers.
 I have a Plustek Parallel Port scanner working (using parport0), but only as 
 root, how do I get it to work for normal users ?
 I've read that I should tweak some permissions, but I'm not sure which ones.
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[gentoo-user] Mouse issue

2005-03-27 Thread Tim Brown
I have a logitech MX500 usb mouse and i'm having a difficult time
getting it to work properly, need a little help.

left and right mouse buttons work ok but the scroll wheel and other
buttons do not work.

This is the Core Pointers Input Device Section of my xorg.conf file

Section InputDevice

# Identifier and driver

Identifier  Mouse1
Driver  mouse
Option ProtocolAuto
Option Device  /dev/usbmouse

# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.

#Option Resolution256

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#Option Protocol  Xqueue

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#Option BaudRate  9600
#Option SampleRate150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#Option Emulate3Buttons
#Option Emulate3Timeout50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#Option ChordMiddle

EndSection

What do I need to change or add here?



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Re: [gentoo-user] What an average gentoo user does over 6mnth period

2005-03-27 Thread Philip Webb
050327 Harry Putnam wrote:
 Being a new user, I'm wanting to get an overview
 of what an average gentooer might do or need to do over a 6mnth period.

it will take a few weeks to get your system how you want it,
but once you've done that, you never need to re-install.
one of the beauties of Gentoo is that you have full control
over how close you want to be to the bleeding edge or utterly reliable:
what you update  when you do it is entirely upto you.

i never -- as in never -- do 'emerge world' except with '-Dup' (below).
i made a list of all the pkgs i have installed with 'qpkg -I',
to which i've added dates of installation  a few notes: 1st few lines:

041031 app-admin/fam-2.7.0-r2 [for kdelibs]
  W 040425 app-admin/gkrellm-2.1.28-r1 [invoke 'gkrellm2']
  W 040314 app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.1-r10 [was system: PP logger]
  S 050226 app-arch/bzip2-1.0.2-r5
041031 app-arch/cabextract-1.1 [for xfree]
  S 050205 app-arch/cpio-2.6-r1
  S 050108 app-arch/gzip-1.3.5-r5
041009 app-arch/ncompress-4.2.4-r1 [for tar: qpkg ~th]

'S' is system, 'W' is world  ' ' is a pkg installed to support another.

every weekend, i do 'esync', which updates the Portage tree in my machine,
updates the 'esearch' database  lists all pkgs which have changed,
hiliting in color those which i have installed
(you need to emerge the pkg 'esearch' to get 'esync').
then i do 'emerge -Dup world' to get another view of what to update,
 decide which pkgs to actually update, testing with 'emerge -pv pkg'.
i edit my list of installed pkgs as i do the emerges.

a rule of thumb is to update if you've seen a security alert
-- tho' some may not affect your machine,
eg a local exploit on a single-user desktop --
or if the 1st or 2nd numbers in the pkg name have gone up.

but it's all upto you  that's part of the beauty of Gentoo ... (smile)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse issue

2005-03-27 Thread Zarick Lau
Hi,

On 27/Mar/05, Tim Brown wrote:
 I have a logitech MX500 usb mouse and i'm having a difficult time
 getting it to work properly, need a little help.
 
 left and right mouse buttons work ok but the scroll wheel and other
 buttons do not work.
 
 This is the Core Pointers Input Device Section of my xorg.conf file
 
 Section InputDevice
 
 # Identifier and driver
 
 Identifier  Mouse1
 Driver  mouse
 Option ProtocolAuto
 Option Device  /dev/usbmouse
 
 # Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.
 
 #Option Resolution256
 
 # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
 # the following line.
 
 #Option Protocol  Xqueue
 
 # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
 # almost every case these lines should be omitted.
 
 #Option BaudRate  9600
 #Option SampleRate150
 
 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
 # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)
 
 #Option Emulate3Buttons
 #Option Emulate3Timeout50
 
 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
 
 #Option ChordMiddle
 
 EndSection
 
 What do I need to change or add here?
 

The following is my InputDevice section

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol ImPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  Buttons 5
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Notice the 'Buttons' and 'ZAxisMapping' lines

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scanner and permissions.

2005-03-27 Thread Pupeno
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Je Lundo Marto 28 2005 01:41, Nick Rout skribis:
 Locate the device that is being used as the scanner device.
I can handle the rest, how do I do this ?
lsof only shows /dev/pts/[0-3] being used, but those files are already owned 
by the user and readable/writable, so, they aren't the problem.
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[gentoo-user] Ssh DSA/RSA log in

2005-03-27 Thread Pupeno
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I'm trying to set up a passwordless log in, using ssh and dsa or rsa keys. For 
that, I first try to make it work for localhost. So, I do the following 
steps:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] sandra $ cd .ssh

Generate a dsa and rsa keys (just in case):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ ssh-keygen -t dsa
Generating public/private dsa key pair.
Enter file in which to save the key (/home/sandra/.ssh/id_dsa):
Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
Enter same passphrase again:
Your identification has been saved in /home/sandra/.ssh/id_dsa.
Your public key has been saved in /home/sandra/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
The key fingerprint is:
bd:7c:9d:d2:7a:c9:e5:df:13:15:69:32:94:e0:bd:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ ssh-keygen -t rsa
Generating public/private rsa key pair.
Enter file in which to save the key (/home/sandra/.ssh/id_rsa):
Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase):
Enter same passphrase again:
Your identification has been saved in /home/sandra/.ssh/id_rsa.
Your public key has been saved in /home/sandra/.ssh/id_rsa.pub.
The key fingerprint is:
e5:72:8b:4c:a2:fb:88:b1:a1:ee:e0:99:0f:9b:1b:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ ls
id_dsa  id_dsa.pub  id_rsa  id_rsa.pub  known_hosts

Make them authorized keys:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ cat id_dsa.pub id_rsa.pub  authorized_keys

Try to log in to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (liv is localhost):

$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password:

As you can see, it asks me for a password (instead of asking me for a 
passphrase for the key). It simple doesn't work.
This is done with an out of the box openssh configuration (from Gentoo, of 
course).

To gether more information I can run ssh -vv [EMAIL PROTECTED], getting the 
following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ ssh -vv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to liv [10.0.0.2] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/sandra/.ssh/identity type -1
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN'
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type 'Proc-Type:'
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type 'DEK-Info:'
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-END'
debug1: identity file /home/sandra/.ssh/id_rsa type 1
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN'
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type 'Proc-Type:'
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type 'DEK-Info:'
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-END'
debug1: identity file /home/sandra/.ssh/id_dsa type 2
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.9p1
debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.9p1 pat OpenSSH*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1
debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL
 PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL
 PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL
 PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL
 PROTECTED],aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: server-client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: client-server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug2: 

Re: [gentoo-user] Ssh DSA/RSA log in

2005-03-27 Thread Dirk Raeder
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Pupeno wrote:
 I'm trying to set up a passwordless log in, using ssh and dsa or rsa 
 keys. For that, I first try to make it work for localhost. So, I do the 
 following steps:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] sandra $ cd .ssh
 
 Generate a dsa and rsa keys (just in case):
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ ssh-keygen -t dsa Generating public/private dsa key 
 pair. Enter file in which to save the key (/home/sandra/.ssh/id_dsa): 
 Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): Enter same passphrase again:
  Your identification has been saved in /home/sandra/.ssh/id_dsa. Your 
 public key has been saved in /home/sandra/.ssh/id_dsa.pub. The key 
 fingerprint is: bd:7c:9d:d2:7a:c9:e5:df:13:15:69:32:94:e0:bd:29 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ ssh-keygen -t rsa Generating 
 public/private 
 rsa key pair. Enter file in which to save the key 
 (/home/sandra/.ssh/id_rsa): Enter passphrase (empty for no passphrase): 
 Enter same passphrase again: Your identification has been saved in 
 /home/sandra/.ssh/id_rsa. Your public key has been saved in 
 /home/sandra/.ssh/id_rsa.pub. The key fingerprint is: 
 e5:72:8b:4c:a2:fb:88:b1:a1:ee:e0:99:0f:9b:1b:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] 
 .ssh $ ls id_dsa  id_dsa.pub  id_rsa  id_rsa.pub  known_hosts
 
 Make them authorized keys:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .ssh $ cat id_dsa.pub id_rsa.pub  authorized_keys
 
 Try to log in to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (liv is localhost):
 
 $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Password:
 
 
 Any help will be very appretiated. Thank you.
To sum up what you did:

You created the dsa-key as user sandra and copied the public key to sandra's
authorized_keys. Now Sandra can ssh from her account to her account on the
same machine without a password.

What you have to do for passwordless log in, which is rather insecure:
Create a dsa- or rsa-key for the user you want to open the ssh connection
from, probably your account.
Copy the public key to the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the machine and
account you want to log in.

HTH
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http://counter.li.org
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