Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to boot new kernel

2004-02-18 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Make sure you have reiserfs compiled *in* the kernel, not as a module.

   Regards
   Jose
David Gethings escribió:

OK I guess I must be doing something stupidly wrong, but I just can't see 
what.

I have compliled linix-2.4.23-ck-sources and both the kernel and the initrd 
files are sitting in /boot. I used genkernel (3.0.1_beta12) to configure and 
compile the kernel. The command used was "genkernel --install --bootsplash 
--menuconfig all". The only change I made was to remove some modules I don't 
use (i.e. USB network cards) and add support for SBP2.

As the README to genkerel says:

IMPORTANT KERNEL NOTES:
- You MUST have devfs turned on at this time, but you MUST NOT
 have "Automatically mount at boot" option turned on.
- You MUST have /dev/pts turned on
- If you want Bootsplash, you MUST have VESAFB enabled for 2.6,
 other framebuffers won't work.  You MUST also enable
 "video mode selection support" and "Framebuffer Console support"
- To build a kernel with GenKernel you must have
 "Block devices->Loopback device support"
 "Block devices->RAM disk support"
- To boot genkernel properly, the kernel config must have
 RAM disk support and Initial RAM disk support.  You should
 also set your "Default RAM disk size to 8192"
So I made sure all of the above was true in the kernel config.

I then added the following grub config:

# For booting Gentoo 2.4-ck
title  Linux
root (hd0,1)
kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/hdc5
initrd (hd0,1)/boot/initrd-2.4.23-ck1
However when I try to boot I get an error back from mount when it tries to 
mount the root parition. The error message is get is 'Invalid Argument'. This 
comes from the linuxrc file. The offending line is: "mount -o rw 
${REAL_ROOT} /newroot".

My fstab says the following:
/dev/hdc5   /   reiserfsnoatime 0 0
Moreover I have tried to edit the /linuxrc file to change the mount options 
however it would appear that a different version of the file on the RAMFS.

My question is, what do I have to do to fix the problem?

Cheers

Dg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage suggestion

2004-02-13 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Timo,

   I'm not a KDE expert neither an expert in compiling, but it seems 
kdelibs *needs* arts to be compiled, so this is not a fault of portage, 
this is a fault of KDE, as they are not giving this option.

   From COMPILING in kdelibs-3.1 (sorry I haven't the latest version 
installed):

[snip]
What you need
=
Make sure you get the following stuff from CVS:

qt-copy (This is qt-3.0.4)
arts
kdelibs
kdebase (strongly recommended but not strictly necessary)

It is important that you compile AND INSTALL the above packages in the
above order.
[snip]
   And ./configure --help | grep arts returns nothing, so you doesn't 
seem to have the option of disabling it, at least in kdelibs. Maybe I'm 
missing anything?

   Regards
   Jose
Timo Lindemann escribió:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:06:45 +0100, Jose González Gómez 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jose,

no, no, no and NO. The problem is that i want to emerge licq, licq 
asks for kdelibs, and kdelibs for arts. I said "emerge licq" which 
NEEDS kdelibs, but NOT arts. I proposed a mode where just the PRIMARY 
and CRITICAL dependencies are fulfilled to make licq work (to follow 
that example), but not to satisfy each and every dependency from 
packets in the dependency (and YES, you CAN compile kdelibs and kde as 
a whole (not kdemultimedia) without arts, by configuring manually with 
--without-arts, what is what I want portage to recongnize and do 
AUTOMATICALLY).

I do know my peers, and USE flags do NOT solve that.

Regards
Timo Lindemann
Timo,

Notice in the second case I have -arts in the use variable, but 
arts gets compiled. Maybe there is another package in the dependency 
tree that has arts as a needed dependency, and not as an optional 
dependency. Notice also that in the last case (-kde -qt -arts) arts 
disappears. So I just was trying to tell you that maybe there was 
something wrong in your configuration, maybe you thought you have 
correctly configured your use variable but you didn't... I really 
don't know. Anyway, take a look at emerge info, and you'll really 
know if your settings are really taken into account.

Hope this helps, regards
Jose
Timo Lindemann escribió:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:21:11 +0100, Jose González Gómez 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Jose,

Timo,

I'm installing Gentoo in a laptop and had a similar problem, 
but just adding "-kde -arts" to the USE variable in /etc/make.conf 
did the trick.


I stated quite explicitly that USE does NOT solve it. I stated quite 
clearly that portage needs to be reworked to some extent.
So what gives? I just want to choose to install only what's needed 
to run those damn programs I told emerge to make.

Sorry to sound rough, but you missed my point entirely.

Regards
Jose
Timo Lindemann escribió:

Hi all,

Everytime I install a Gentoo on a system, I curse and scream about 
one of the major flaws in portage.

Whenever I want just one program emerged, say, on a laptop using 
xfce4 on xfree, USE="-kde -esd -arts -alsa -oss":
I want to emerge anjuta, portage wants gnomelibs, which in turn 
want esd. It totally ignores my useflags, the fact that this 
notebook does not HAVE sound hardware. OK, that would be too much 
for portage to know, but the USE is ignored anyway. I just want to 
run anjuta with xfce4.
Okay, I think. Lets emerge all that shit, and get over with.
Next thing, I want licq. I pretend. Guess what appears on the 
list? artsd! I cant stand it, really. Gentoo would be such a nice 
distro, but it is ALL BLOATED. The fact that it is the best distro 
out there does make up to that, but it just would be NICER it 
didn't have to. So I suggest: Let there be a mode for Portage 
where all CRITICAL dependencies are shown, what the program I want 
NEEDS to run. I dont want to have an entire OS installed if I just 
want one program. artsd is not a dep from licq, but somehow 
entagled in that kde thing, which I dont WANT to have. So, a 
distinction needs to be made between USEFUL deps, or standard 
deps, and CRITICAL deps, or needed deps.

What do you think?

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad, kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3

2004-02-13 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Oh... what the [EMAIL PROTECTED] that was... I wasn't aware of the synaptics 
ebuild ! Thanks a lot 

   regards
   Jose
Neil Bothwick escribió:

   Is there anybody out there with a laptop with kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3 
and a working Synaptics touchpad?
   

I couldn't get the synaptics driver to work at all with 3.3, and the
standard driver gave terrible response. So I bit the bullet and emerged
xfree 4.3.99-902-r1 and synaptics 0.12.1 and it works very well. You'll
need to read the synaptics docs to get the right settings for
XF86config, but it's fairly straightforward.
Cheers

Neil
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage suggestion

2004-02-13 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Timo,

   I'm installing Gentoo in a laptop and had a similar problem, but 
just adding "-kde -arts" to the USE variable in /etc/make.conf did the 
trick.

   Regards
   Jose
Timo Lindemann escribió:

Hi all,

Everytime I install a Gentoo on a system, I curse and scream about one 
of the major flaws in portage.

Whenever I want just one program emerged, say, on a laptop using xfce4 
on xfree, USE="-kde -esd -arts -alsa -oss":
I want to emerge anjuta, portage wants gnomelibs, which in turn want 
esd. It totally ignores my useflags, the fact that this notebook does 
not HAVE sound hardware. OK, that would be too much for portage to 
know, but the USE is ignored anyway. I just want to run anjuta with 
xfce4.
Okay, I think. Lets emerge all that shit, and get over with.
Next thing, I want licq. I pretend. Guess what appears on the list? 
artsd! I cant stand it, really. Gentoo would be such a nice distro, 
but it is ALL BLOATED. The fact that it is the best distro out there 
does make up to that, but it just would be NICER it didn't have to. So 
I suggest: Let there be a mode for Portage where all CRITICAL 
dependencies are shown, what the program I want NEEDS to run. I dont 
want to have an entire OS installed if I just want one program. artsd 
is not a dep from licq, but somehow entagled in that kde thing, which 
I dont WANT to have. So, a distinction needs to be made between USEFUL 
deps, or standard deps, and CRITICAL deps, or needed deps.

What do you think?

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mail confirmation requests

2004-02-13 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Hi there,

   I've been reading and posting here for more than a year now, and I 
think this is the first time I've seen such a thread here.

   First of all, I think every individual here is helpful for the rest 
of the community. Regardless of her experience level, I think everybody 
here may have faced and solved some problem that eventually another 
people may find, so we all post here to find solution to our problems 
and to try to help other people whenever we can. So losing just one 
people, even the less experienced, is terrible. Take also into account 
that a people that is happy to use Gentoo (or their mailing lists) will 
tell to three people. A people that has had a bad experience with Gentoo 
(or their mailing lists) will tell to ten people. This is a basic 
marketing principle.

   I think it's normal that from time to time arises such a thread, but 
I think the best we could do is to behave like gentlemen, forgive and 
forget, and the most important, don't let anybody go out from this list 
just for such a discussion.

   Just my 2cents (of euro in my case)
   Jose
Kevin Hanson escribió:

Grendel wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Norbert Kamenicky howled,

 

IMHO bigger problem are individuals which like to start
new thread by reply of another one.
noro
  


You have pushed this once too often and are showing your utter 
immaturity
noro, so I am adding you to my killfilter.
Usually my killfilters bayesian model identifies people who are 
likely to
be added to my killfile in advance based on my previous selections 
and the
offenders postings and automatically adds them to save me the touble, 
but noro seems to have escaped detection and is turning to be annoying.
So I will add him myself.

*plonk*

Grendel

 

Grendel,

You are a jerk.  Go away.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad, kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3

2004-02-13 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Tom,

   I have exactly the same problems as Mathew, so could you please tell 
me how have you configured kernel and X? Right now I have enabled the 
event input interface in kernel, and have tried to load the synaptics 
module in X, but X is not able to find it (now I remember I have tested 
this with XFree 3.3.99, maybe in 3.3 would work?)

   Thanks a lot, regards
   Jose
Tom Syroid escribió:

Jose,

--On Friday, February 13, 2004 01:32:59 +0100 Jose González Gómez 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi there,

Is there anybody out there with a laptop with kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3
and a working Synaptics touchpad? I've found the following links:


I do. What, specifically, is it your looking for? Kernel conf? X 
config? It's all kinda inter-related ;-)

I'll give you what I can, but you have to start by providing some 
feedback on how far you're got, where you're stuck, etc.

One item of note: Cursor movement is still a little wild; haven't 
found the right tweak yet. But the configuration is workable.

/tom



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Re: [gentoo-user] 1394 modules under Gentoo

2004-02-12 Thread Jose González Gómez
   I think you should modify /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.x 
instead. Or emerge hotplug, rc-update add hotplug default.

   Regards
   Jose
Mark Knecht escribió:

Hi,
  My home boxes use 1394 built into the kernel so I don't have this
issue. Some new machines at work have 1394 built as modules. 

  What's the right way to load these modules under Gentoo?

  Should I create some arbitrary file like /etc/modules.d/ohci , name
them in there and then run modules-update?
  What's the right way to do this?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2004-02-12 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Rob,

   Maybe you could take a look at genkernel. Although it's a bit 
inmature, it's supposed to do all the dirty stuff for you, and you only 
have to edit the grub configuration file with the parameters provided by 
genkernel.

   About the kernel being corrupted, are you sure you are pointing grub 
to the right place? Maybe you have copied the wrong file? Don't worry 
about the size of the kernel, it depends on the things you compile into 
it, the more options you include, the bigger the kernel.

   Regards
   Jose
Rob Barnett escribió:

Jose,

I am using a manual compilation. It creates the kernel and System.map.
I have set it up correctly with Grub just like the first compile that I did.
When I boot, it says the file is corrupt. Unfortunately, I am not near my
computer to see the exact message. The kernel is twice the size as the
original kernel. I even tried to compile with the orignal setting to get
a kernel that matched the original, but to no success.
Gracias,
Rob
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install


   Rob,

   Manual compilation or using genkernel? What about error messages?
Have you double checked everything is fine in /boot?
   Regards
   Jose
Rob Barnett escribió:

 

I have a dell Inspiron 8500 notebook.

I have installed using gentoo-dev-sources using stage-1.  Everything
worked great
I booted into it and discovered that I did not configure my network
card or a file
system that was required by 2.6.  I tryed to do another make as before
but
when I try to boot into it, it would not. Is there something I missed
with the kernel
to compress it or something so that grub will boot using it.  I can
only boot using
the original kernel that I created.
Thanks,
Rob
   



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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell Inspiron 8500

2004-02-12 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Rob,

   I don't know about those specific devices, but you could take a look 
at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html or 
http://tuxmobil.org/dell.html, there are a few articles on Inspiron 
8500. They're not for Gentoo, but you may learn a lot from them, and 
then apply to Gentoo. Anyway, you may also search in the kernel options 
for those devices.

   Regards
   Jose
Rob Barnett escribió:

Does 2.6 support the following?
How do I set the kernel to support them?
1) 64MB Nvidia GeForce4 4200 Go video
2) Dell 1300 WLAN (802.11)
3) SigmaTel C-Major Audio
4) Broadcom 440x 10/100 ethernet
Thanks,
Rob
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Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2004-02-12 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Rob,

   Manual compilation or using genkernel? What about error messages? 
Have you double checked everything is fine in /boot?

   Regards
   Jose
Rob Barnett escribió:

I have a dell Inspiron 8500 notebook.
 
I have installed using gentoo-dev-sources using stage-1.  Everything 
worked great
I booted into it and discovered that I did not configure my network 
card or a file
system that was required by 2.6.  I tryed to do another make as before 
but
when I try to boot into it, it would not. Is there something I missed 
with the kernel
to compress it or something so that grub will boot using it.  I can 
only boot using
the original kernel that I created.
 
Thanks,
Rob


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Re: [gentoo-user] Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-11 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Martin,

   I tried with the savage driver with no success... right now I'm 
compiling the development version of xfree, that is supposed to contain 
the via driver.

   Thanks, regards
   Jose
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribiÃ:

Of course it's an VIA but Via has bought the Technology from S3 

The KM233 form VIA is compatible to the S3-Savage4

and AFAIK it is the same for the newer Chipsets too

My notebook (KM233) works fine with the savage driver (but without 
3D-support)

I thing the savage driver might help you too.

Martin

PS: it might be that our notebooks are nearly the same ...
   (here in Germany are such rumors for Acer Aspire 13xx and 
Siemens-Fujitsu)


Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote:

   Norbert,

   Ok, you have impressed me, but... how the $#@ do you know this 
device is the KM400 chipset? I really would like to know :o)

   Do you know which settings should I use to properly use this video 
card, or must I stick to the vesa driver?

   Thanks a lot for your help
   Jose
Norbert Kamenicky escribiÃ:

Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote:

   Hi there,

   I also have problems with my video card on my Acer Aspire 1350 
(yes, I'm the same guy with the APM/ACPI dilemma). Following the 
specifications in the Acer web page, my laptop should have an S3 
Savage or an ATI Mobility Radeon, but whenever I run a lspci | grep 
VGA I get the following:

   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: 
Unknown device 7205 (rev 01)




No, it's not S3 nor ATI, but as lspci says, it's VIA.
Device 7205 is KM400.
noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo female?

2004-02-11 Thread Jose González Gómez
bit root # emerge sys-party/get-out

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies \
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "sys-kernel/gentoo-female" have been 
masked.
!!! possible candidates are:
- sys-kernel/gentoo-female-1.0-rlisa (masked by: discussion.mask, ~me)
- sys-kernel/gentoo-female-1.1-rmary (masked by: otherguy.mask)
- sys-kernel/gentoo-female-1.2-rrose (masked by: thosedays.mask)
!!!(dependency required by "sys-party/get-out-0.9" [ebuild])

!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

:o(

Drake Wyrm escribió:

On Wed, 2004-02-11, 00:33:32 -0500, in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Clay Culver
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

On Tuesday 10 February 2004 11:11 pm, LoneStar wrote:
   

I'm beginning to think gentoo is female.
 

You sould get out more.  =D
   

What's this "out" thing I keep hearing about? From where does one download
"out"? :D
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   I have just upgraded to 2.6 and now the battery applet seems to be 
working properly. I'll take a look at the rest of the functionalities 
tomorrow.

   Thanks for your help, regards
   Jose
Grendel escribiÃ:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez commented...

 

   Ok, let's try a 2.6 kernel... should I take away APM from the kernel 
options? I have checked it and it's there currently as a module.
   

No need, linux by default prefers ACPI over APM, so you need not worry
about this if you enable acpi as well. Of course if you really want to  
you can remove the apm support but it wont matter.

Grendel

 

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Re: [gentoo-user] VIA driver missing in XFree 4.3.xx (was Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350)

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Thanks to everybody for the help.

   Ok, we are closing up... it seems my video card needs the via driver 
included in XFree 4.3.xx. I have taken a look to the ebuild for 
xfree-4.3.0-r4, and I have found the following lines, all of them 
commented out:
#   mirror://gentoo/XFree86-4.3.0-drivers-via-${VIADRV_VER}.tar.bz2"

#   ebegin "Adding VIA driver"
#   cd ${WORKDIR}
#   unpack XFree86-${PV}-drivers-via-${VIADRV_VER}.tar.bz2
#   cd ${S}
#   eend 0
   # Compile the VIA driver
#   echo "#define XF86ExtraCardDrivers via" >> 
config/cf/host.def

   Could somebody from the Gento team comment on this, please? Could I 
have this driver compiled just including those lines in the ebuild? Has 
this been commented out due to some bug?

   Thanks, regards
   Jose
Norbert Kamenicky escribiÃ:

Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote:

   Ok, you have impressed me, but... how the $#@ do you know this 
device is the KM400 chipset? I really would like to know :o)

The trick is to put about three words to ggle :-).
This URL occured: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=648
   Do you know which settings should I use to properly use this video 
card, or must I stick to the vesa driver?

Since I never played with it, I can just give u an advice:
Visit www.via.com.tw (look for linux drivers).
VIA is taking much more care about linux users as other
chinese co.'s, so 4 sure u'll find relevant info.
noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Norbert,

   Ok, you have impressed me, but... how the $#@ do you know this 
device is the KM400 chipset? I really would like to know :o)

   Do you know which settings should I use to properly use this video 
card, or must I stick to the vesa driver?

   Thanks a lot for your help
   Jose
Norbert Kamenicky escribiÃ:

Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote:

   Hi there,

   I also have problems with my video card on my Acer Aspire 1350 
(yes, I'm the same guy with the APM/ACPI dilemma). Following the 
specifications in the Acer web page, my laptop should have an S3 
Savage or an ATI Mobility Radeon, but whenever I run a lspci | grep 
VGA I get the following:

   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown 
device 7205 (rev 01)


No, it's not S3 nor ATI, but as lspci says, it's VIA.
Device 7205 is KM400.
noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Ok, let's try a 2.6 kernel... should I take away APM from the kernel 
options? I have checked it and it's there currently as a module.

Grendel escribiÃ:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez commented...

 

   Grendel,

   I have posted a message to the Gentoo forums with this issue, 
including all the information I have been able to collect. You can 
access it at:

  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=134849
   

First things first, linux 2.6 has much better ACPI support so it is worth 
it if you can try to use one of the 2.6 kernels and see if it recognises 
your machine. 

Bye,
grendel
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Grendel,

   I have posted a message to the Gentoo forums with this issue, 
including all the information I have been able to collect. You can 
access it at:

  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=134849

   Tanks for your time,
   Jose
Grendel escribiÃ:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez commented...

 

   Hi there,

   I have an Acer Aspire 1350 laptop where I have just installed 
Gentoo. The problem is that I don't manage to get ACPI working. I've 
been reading a lot of stuff in the mailing list, the forums, etc, but I 
don't have a clear picture of this:

  1. Are APM and ACPI related? I understand I should use *only* one of
 them but not both, is this correct?
   

APM is the first of the power management protocols. This was used in the
good old days for putting the disks into standby etc.
ACPI is a more advanced protocol, where a ACPI aware OS (if the BIOS 
supports ACPI (only bioses within the last 2-3 years do this IIRC) can 
request ACPI aware devices to put themselves in a power saving state, this 
includes harddisks, network cards, CPU. If a device cant oblige with the 
request at that time then it is free to reject the ACPI request.

You can use only one method, ie APM or ACPI not both. Usually the kernel 
defaults to supporting ACPI, but you can force it to use APM by passing 
the acpi=off option at boot time.

 

  2. Should I try to move to APM if I'm not able to get ACPI running?
   

The only problem is linux's ACPI implementation still isnt stable for 
certain chipsets, notably nforce2/AMD platform.

So if when you have ACPI enabled you get random lockups, or notie that he 
machine is running slow, then disable it and use APM. You can enter low 
power states using APM, no problem.

 

  3. Will I have all the battery, sleep, hibernate, etc stuff in APM?
   

You can put the disks into low power standby, or suspend. I am not sure 
whether hibernating or suspend to ram is possible in APM.

 

  4. Does anybody out there have an Acer Aspire 1350 with a working
 Gentoo that would share her experinces with me, please?
   By the way, I'm using kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5, there seems to be 
some part of ACPI working, as I'm able to see some messages in 
/var/log/messages when I plug/unplug my AC cord, but I don't have any 
/proc/acpi/battery directory. I can post more information if needed.
   



When the kernel boots up do you get a boot up message like "ACPI 
initialise" etc...

Grendel

 

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Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   I was waiting for 2.6 to become stable in Gentoo, but it seems I'll 
have to take a look at them...

Tom Wesley escribió:

On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 21:05, Jose González Gómez wrote:
 

   Hi there,

   I have an Acer Aspire 1350 laptop where I have just installed 
Gentoo. The problem is that I don't manage to get ACPI working. I've 
been reading a lot of stuff in the mailing list, the forums, etc, but I 
don't have a clear picture of this:

  1. Are APM and ACPI related? I understand I should use *only* one of
 them but not both, is this correct?
  2. Should I try to move to APM if I'm not able to get ACPI running?
  3. Will I have all the battery, sleep, hibernate, etc stuff in APM?
  4. Does anybody out there have an Acer Aspire 1350 with a working
 Gentoo that would share her experinces with me, please?
   By the way, I'm using kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5, there seems to be 
some part of ACPI working, as I'm able to see some messages in 
/var/log/messages when I plug/unplug my AC cord, but I don't have any 
/proc/acpi/battery directory. I can post more information if needed.

   Thanks a lot, regards
   Jose
   

Although I don't actually have a laptop at all, but I have heard that
2.6 kernels include better power management support, including fancy
things like hibernate... Might be worth a look?
 

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[gentoo-user] Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Hi there,

   I also have problems with my video card on my Acer Aspire 1350 (yes, 
I'm the same guy with the APM/ACPI dilemma). Following the 
specifications in the Acer web page, my laptop should have an S3 Savage 
or an ATI Mobility Radeon, but whenever I run a lspci | grep VGA I get 
the following:

   01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown 
device 7205 (rev 01)

   I tried both the savage and radeon drivers in X with no success, so 
right now I'm working with the vesa driver. Any ideas?

   Thanks in advance, regards
   Jose
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[gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350

2004-02-10 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Hi there,

   I have an Acer Aspire 1350 laptop where I have just installed 
Gentoo. The problem is that I don't manage to get ACPI working. I've 
been reading a lot of stuff in the mailing list, the forums, etc, but I 
don't have a clear picture of this:

  1. Are APM and ACPI related? I understand I should use *only* one of
 them but not both, is this correct?
  2. Should I try to move to APM if I'm not able to get ACPI running?
  3. Will I have all the battery, sleep, hibernate, etc stuff in APM?
  4. Does anybody out there have an Acer Aspire 1350 with a working
 Gentoo that would share her experinces with me, please?
   By the way, I'm using kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5, there seems to be 
some part of ACPI working, as I'm able to see some messages in 
/var/log/messages when I plug/unplug my AC cord, but I don't have any 
/proc/acpi/battery directory. I can post more information if needed.

   Thanks a lot, regards
   Jose
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Re: [gentoo-user] xfree update

2004-02-09 Thread Jose González Gómez
   I think it should be a painless upgrade (for me, they're almost 
always painless) as long as you don't forget to run etc-update after 
updating and before rebooting. Anyway, take a look at the changelog to 
see if it's worth emerging the new version.

   Regards
   Jose
Chuck Mize escribió:

I noticed there is an update to xfree:

[ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r4 [4.3.0-r3]

But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to
update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them
working the way I want them. Should this be a painless upgrade or should
I hold off?
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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

2004-02-09 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Grendel,

   You can do it, but expect a long time compiling your modules :o)

   Regards
   Jose
Grendel escribió:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly,

 

Alexandre Aractingi wrote:
   

- I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I
particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally
 

Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting
much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little
bit less comfort.
Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw
and/or it will run just after installation.
   

Actually I wonder why this is the case. I was really impressed by the way 
the livecd detected all of my hardware and autoconfigured it (it even 
detected by nforce2 nvnet driver, so far the only installation to do 
this). 
Surely the same tool(s) can also be installed as part of the base package, 
which can be optionally invoked by the user if necessary and which will 
modify the necesasry files.

Bye,
Grendel


 

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Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions

2004-02-09 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Daniel,

   I think you are wrong here. The new genkernel by default configures 
the kernel with almost everything as a module, so you have both options:

  1. Manually compile the kernel, choose the drivers you need, and edit
 /etc/modules.autoload
  2. Compile the kernel using genkernel (and the default configuration
 it provides), emerge hotplug, and rc-update add hotplug default
   In the first case you will have an optimized kernel only working for 
your machine and your current hardware. In the second case, you'll have 
a kernel that takes a lot to build but than can autoconfigure when 
detecting new hardware.

   So, again Gentoo is all about choices :o)

   Regards
   Jose
Daniel Drake escribió:

Grendel wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly,


- Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition
and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)?


Not to my knowledge.


I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it 
till I
get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of 
feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :)

With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle 
this hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? 
The livecd which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded 
the ethernet card so I had a network connection working, so the base 
system which we install to the hdd must have some kind of auto 
detection, otherwise do we have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too 
commands manuall to the /etc/modulesxxx files?


Thats only the livecd.
For your real install, you will need to:
- Compile support for your network card into the kernel
- Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module
- Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP.
I don't understand what is meant by the original question 
(scanners/printers). Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration 
method? If so, not natively as part of gentoo. However, a well 
configured system (even default configurations) will handle the 
addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.:
- If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in 
your printer, and remove it when its disconnected
- If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will 
queue the job and wait until the printer appaers
- You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in

Or did I misunderstand the question?

Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] can't boot new system

2004-02-07 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Ops, I forgot... don't forget to manually mount /boot if you use the 
install option of genkernel

   Regards
   Jose
Jose González Gómez escribió:

   There are some known issues with the new genkernel... I have been 
able to install two kernels on different machines without any problem 
after taking this into account. Just take a look at
  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=124530

   and comment out MAKEOPTS in /usr/share/genkernel/x86/config.sh

   Regards
   Jose
LoneStar escribió:

Every kernel I've built using genkernel beta version has had problems 
with the initrd.
I work around this by commenting out the initrd line in my boot 
loader (grub) and the kernel loads without problems.

Moshe Kaminsky wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to setup gentoo at home. I'm stuck with the kernel: when 
the boot process starts, everything seems to be ok for a while. 
Then, I get the following line twice:
/linuxrc: 285: test: not found
and then the machine reboot. This happens with both the 
2.4.22-gentoo-r5 and 2.6.1-gentoo-r1 kernels. I'm using genkernel 
3.0.1_beta8 to compile the kernel, and I pass the parameters 
mentioned in the genkernel README file.

Any help is appreciated
Moshe
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] can't boot new system

2004-02-07 Thread Jose González Gómez
   There are some known issues with the new genkernel... I have been 
able to install two kernels on different machines without any problem 
after taking this into account. Just take a look at
  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=124530

   and comment out MAKEOPTS in /usr/share/genkernel/x86/config.sh

   Regards
   Jose
LoneStar escribió:

Every kernel I've built using genkernel beta version has had problems 
with the initrd.
I work around this by commenting out the initrd line in my boot loader 
(grub) and the kernel loads without problems.

Moshe Kaminsky wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to setup gentoo at home. I'm stuck with the kernel: when 
the boot process starts, everything seems to be ok for a while. Then, 
I get the following line twice:
/linuxrc: 285: test: not found
and then the machine reboot. This happens with both the 
2.4.22-gentoo-r5 and 2.6.1-gentoo-r1 kernels. I'm using genkernel 
3.0.1_beta8 to compile the kernel, and I pass the parameters 
mentioned in the genkernel README file.

Any help is appreciated
Moshe
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla 1.6 not compiling

2004-02-06 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Alberto,

   I have successfully compiled mozilla 1.6. Have you tried to resync 
and emerge again? Some strange compilation problems goes away doing this.

   Regards
   Jose
Alberto Bert escribió:

On Feb 06 at 01:25PM+0100, Redeeman wrote:
 

i just emerged for some days ago, very strange, tried cut down the
CFLAGS?
   

it doesn't compile the same way also with default CFLAGS:

-O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe

:-(

alb

 

On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 12:46, Alberto Bert wrote:
   

Hi all,

I'm not an expert of gentoo at all, but I've never had compilation problems up to now
(~ 1 year working), so I was very surpised today...
I tryed to emerge mozilla 1.6, it requested several other updating and
new emerging, among them xfree, gtk+, etc.
The compilation stops with the following error message.
Plus, now something seems to be happened to emerge, since when I try to emerge centain 
packages it gives me errors like:

snoopy root # emerge -pv xterm

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies   
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "xterm" have been masked.

!!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

the error appear not for all packages...

What am Isupposed to "correct"?

Any help would be VERY appreciated.
thanks,
Alberto
g++ -o nsAccessProxy.o -c -DOSTYPE=\"Linux2.4\" -DOSARCH=\"Linux\"  -I../../../dist/include/xpcom -I../../../dist/include/string -I../../../dist/include/docshell -I../../../dist/include/dom -I../../../dist/include/widget -I../../../dist/include/gfx -I../../../dist/include/layout -I../../../dist/include/content -I../../../dist/include/uriloader -I../../../dist/include/pref -I../../../dist/include/embedcomponents -I../../../dist/include/accessproxy -I../../../dist/include -I/var/tmp/portage/mozilla-1.6/work/mozilla/dist/include/nspr -I/usr/X11R6/include   -fPIC  -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-long-long -march=pentium3 -mcpu=pentium4 -pipe -s -fforce-addr -Wno-deprecated -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -ffunction-sections -O2  -I/usr/X11R6/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../mozilla-config.h -Wp,-MD,.deps/nsAccessProxy.pp nsAccessProxy.cpp
nsAccessProxy.cpp:46:25: nsIRegistry.h: No such file or directory
In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:52:
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:48:20: nsIURI.h: No such file or directory
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:53:26: nsILoadGroup.h: No such file or directory
In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:52:
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In instantiation of `nsDerivedSafe':
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135:   instantiated from here
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135: base class `nsIURI' has 
  incomplete type
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In member function `nsIURI* 
  nsIDocument::GetDocumentURL() const':
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135: cannot convert `const 
  nsCOMPtr' to `nsIURI*' in return
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In member function `nsIURI* 
  nsIDocument::GetBaseURL() const':
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:163: cannot convert `const 
  nsCOMPtr' to `nsIURI*' in return
In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:58:
nsAccessProxy.h:35:28: nsIAccessProxy.h: No such file or directory
In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:58:
nsAccessProxy.h: In static member function `static const nsID& 
  nsAccessProxy::GetCID()':
 

nsAccessProxy.h:64: `NS_ACCESSPROXY_CID' undeclared (first use this function)
nsAccessProxy.h:64: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each 
  function it appears in.)
nsAccessProxy.cpp: In member function `virtual nsresult 
  nsAccessProxy::HandleEvent(nsIDOMEvent*)':
nsAccessProxy.cpp:102: invalid use of undefined type `struct nsIDOMEvent'
../../../dist/include/dom/domstubs.h:107: forward declaration of `struct 
  nsIDOMEvent'
nsAccessProxy.cpp:113: cannot convert `nsIDOMEvent*' to `nsISupports*' for 
  argument `1' to `const nsQueryInterface do_QueryInterface(nsISupports*, 
  nsresult*)'
../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h: In member function `nsCOMPtr& 
  nsCOMPtr::operator=(T*) [with T = nsIURI]':
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:136:   instantiated from here
../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h:570: no matching function for call to `
  nsCOMPtr::assign_with_AddRef(nsIURI*&)'
../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h:407: candidates are: void 
  nsCOMPtr_base::assign_with_AddRef(nsISupports*)
../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsISupportsUtils.h: In static member function 
  `static const nsIID& nsCOMTypeInfo::GetIID() [with T = nsILoadGroup]':
../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsIWeakReferenceUtils.h:62:   instantiated from `nsresult CallQueryReferent(T*, DestinationType**) [with T = nsDerivedSafe, DestinationType = nsILoadGroup]'
../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:154:   instantiated from here
../..

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel documentation?

2004-02-06 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Ernie,

   Could you tail -n 30 /var/log/genkernel.log and paste here?

   Regards
   Jose
Ernie Schroder escribió:

On Friday 06 February 2004 11:22 am, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 

On Friday 06 February 2004 10:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Le fév février à 15:36:20 Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
 

écrit notamment:
   

I've been looking for documentation on genkernel 3.0.1_beta9
and not having a lot of luck. What I want to do is build
2.6.1-gentoo. From /usr/src, I did:
ln -sf linux-2.6.1-gentoo linux && cd linux

Then:

# genkernel -- menuconfig --install all
GenKernel v3.0.1_beta9
* ARCH: x86
* KERNEL VER: 2.4.20-gentoo-r7
   

[]
genkernel believes you want to configure your 2.4.20 kernel, I
think because you did not type "rm linux" before creating a new
symlink (check with ls -l)
As for the doc, man genkernel is quite clear; after reading it I
had no more problems with it
 

Doesn't the "f" option force the symbolic link?  Hmmm guess not. I
removed and recreated the link and all seems well now. Thanks Jean.
   

Genkernel failed.(see below) Do I need to emerge dietlibc here?

make: execvp: ./threadsafe.sh: Permission denied
ar cru bin-i386/libpthread.a  bin-i386/__testandset.o
gcc -Iinclude -pipe -nostdinc  -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarati
ons -Wno-switch -Wredundant-decls -Wno-unused -nostdlib -o 
bin-i386/diet bin-i386/start.o bin-i386
/dyn_start.o diet.c bin-i386/dietlibc.a bin-i386/dyn_stop.o 
-DDIETHOME=\"/tmp/dietlibc-0.24\" -DVE
RSION=\"dietlibc-0.24\" -lgcc
strip -R .comment -R .note bin-i386/diet
gcc -Iinclude -pipe -nostdinc  -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarati
ons -Wno-switch -Wredundant-decls -Wno-unused -nostdlib -o 
bin-i386/diet-i bin-i386/start.o bin-i3
86/dyn_start.o diet.c bin-i386/dietlibc.a bin-i386/dyn_stop.o 
-DDIETHOME=\"/tmp/diet\" -DVERSION=\
"dietlibc-0.24\" -DINSTALLVERSION -lgcc
strip -R .comment -R .note bin-i386/diet-i
bin-i386/diet gcc -pipe -nostdinc  -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-decla
rations -Wno-switch -Wredundant-decls -Wno-unused -o bin-i386/elftrunc 
contrib/elftrunc.c
make: execvp: bin-i386/diet: Permission denied
make: *** [bin-i386/elftrunc] Error 127
* gen_die(): compile of prefix=/tmp/diet failed
* Please see /var/log/genkernel.log for more info on failures

not much I can see in the log that is of help

 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with first boot

2004-02-05 Thread Jose González Gómez
   In my case I have done an install from stage1, with a reiserfs root 
partition, and I have compiled the kernel using genkernel, instead of 
manually compiling the kernel. I have changed some options in the kernel 
using genkernel --menuconfig, but nothing related to the file system 
options, just the processor type.

   Regards
   Jose
Stroller escribió:

On Feb 4, 2004, at 4:07 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This problem has occured even if I made my "/" partition as ext2 or ext3
fs type.


When you do so, do you reformat & reinstall from the stages..? What is 
your root partition actually formatted as..?

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with first boot

2004-02-04 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Marcelo,

   Do you mean that you have solved the mount problem? I'm still stuck 
with that...

   regards
   Jose
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

My configuration files are exactly like yours.

The only difference on fstab is:
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0   /mnt/cdrom   auto   noauto,user   0 0 ( your )
/dev/cdrom/cdrom /mnt/cdrom   auto   noauto,user   0 0 ( mine )
About your doubt concerning /dev/ram0 and initrd command, those are
recommendations after genkernel has finished compilation.
I've used gentoo-sources with genkernell all --install options to do my
kernel compilation and everithing was OK.
Thank you for your help.

Marcelo





 

   Hi there,

   I'm experiencing the same problem as barreto, this is my third
machine with Gentoo installed, and is the first time I have obtained
this.
   Output from fdisk p:

/dev/hda1   *   1   9   72261   83   Linux
/dev/hda2   10   134   1004062+ Linux swap
/dev/hda3   135   4864   37993725   83 Linux
   My grub.conf (I've tried with the commented and uncommented lines
without success):
title Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
#kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=verbose
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317
splash=verbose
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-gentoo-r5
   My /etc/fstab:

/dev/hda1   /boot   ext3   noauto, noatime   1 2
/dev/hda2   none   swap   sw   0 0
/dev/hda3   /   reiserfs   noatime   0 1
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0   /mnt/cdrom   auto   noauto,user   0 0
   Some comments: I've taken a look at my working machines, and there
is no initrd command in the grub configuration file. And what about
/dev/ram0? Why is that included? What is it?
   Thanks
   Jose
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[gentoo-user] Problems with first boot

2004-02-04 Thread Jose González Gómez
   Hi there,

   I'm experiencing the same problem as barreto, this is my third 
machine with Gentoo installed, and is the first time I have obtained this.

   Output from fdisk p:

/dev/hda1   *   1   9   72261   83   Linux
/dev/hda2   10   134   1004062+ Linux swap
/dev/hda3   135   4864   37993725   83 Linux
   My grub.conf (I've tried with the commented and uncommented lines 
without success):

title Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
#kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc 
real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=verbose
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 
splash=verbose
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-gentoo-r5

   My /etc/fstab:

/dev/hda1   /boot   ext3   noauto, noatime   1 2
/dev/hda2   none   swap   sw   0 0
/dev/hda3   /   reiserfs   noatime   0 1
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0   /mnt/cdrom   auto   noauto,user   0 0
   Some comments: I've taken a look at my working machines, and there 
is no initrd command in the grub configuration file. And what about 
/dev/ram0? Why is that included? What is it?
  
   Thanks
   Jose

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