Re: [gentoo-user] Unable to boot new kernel
Make sure you have reiserfs compiled *in* the kernel, not as a module. Regards Jose David Gethings escribió: OK I guess I must be doing something stupidly wrong, but I just can't see what. I have compliled linix-2.4.23-ck-sources and both the kernel and the initrd files are sitting in /boot. I used genkernel (3.0.1_beta12) to configure and compile the kernel. The command used was "genkernel --install --bootsplash --menuconfig all". The only change I made was to remove some modules I don't use (i.e. USB network cards) and add support for SBP2. As the README to genkerel says: IMPORTANT KERNEL NOTES: - You MUST have devfs turned on at this time, but you MUST NOT have "Automatically mount at boot" option turned on. - You MUST have /dev/pts turned on - If you want Bootsplash, you MUST have VESAFB enabled for 2.6, other framebuffers won't work. You MUST also enable "video mode selection support" and "Framebuffer Console support" - To build a kernel with GenKernel you must have "Block devices->Loopback device support" "Block devices->RAM disk support" - To boot genkernel properly, the kernel config must have RAM disk support and Initial RAM disk support. You should also set your "Default RAM disk size to 8192" So I made sure all of the above was true in the kernel config. I then added the following grub config: # For booting Gentoo 2.4-ck title Linux root (hd0,1) kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/hdc5 initrd (hd0,1)/boot/initrd-2.4.23-ck1 However when I try to boot I get an error back from mount when it tries to mount the root parition. The error message is get is 'Invalid Argument'. This comes from the linuxrc file. The offending line is: "mount -o rw ${REAL_ROOT} /newroot". My fstab says the following: /dev/hdc5 / reiserfsnoatime 0 0 Moreover I have tried to edit the /linuxrc file to change the mount options however it would appear that a different version of the file on the RAMFS. My question is, what do I have to do to fix the problem? Cheers Dg -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage suggestion
Timo, I'm not a KDE expert neither an expert in compiling, but it seems kdelibs *needs* arts to be compiled, so this is not a fault of portage, this is a fault of KDE, as they are not giving this option. From COMPILING in kdelibs-3.1 (sorry I haven't the latest version installed): [snip] What you need = Make sure you get the following stuff from CVS: qt-copy (This is qt-3.0.4) arts kdelibs kdebase (strongly recommended but not strictly necessary) It is important that you compile AND INSTALL the above packages in the above order. [snip] And ./configure --help | grep arts returns nothing, so you doesn't seem to have the option of disabling it, at least in kdelibs. Maybe I'm missing anything? Regards Jose Timo Lindemann escribió: On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:06:45 +0100, Jose González Gómez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jose, no, no, no and NO. The problem is that i want to emerge licq, licq asks for kdelibs, and kdelibs for arts. I said "emerge licq" which NEEDS kdelibs, but NOT arts. I proposed a mode where just the PRIMARY and CRITICAL dependencies are fulfilled to make licq work (to follow that example), but not to satisfy each and every dependency from packets in the dependency (and YES, you CAN compile kdelibs and kde as a whole (not kdemultimedia) without arts, by configuring manually with --without-arts, what is what I want portage to recongnize and do AUTOMATICALLY). I do know my peers, and USE flags do NOT solve that. Regards Timo Lindemann Timo, Notice in the second case I have -arts in the use variable, but arts gets compiled. Maybe there is another package in the dependency tree that has arts as a needed dependency, and not as an optional dependency. Notice also that in the last case (-kde -qt -arts) arts disappears. So I just was trying to tell you that maybe there was something wrong in your configuration, maybe you thought you have correctly configured your use variable but you didn't... I really don't know. Anyway, take a look at emerge info, and you'll really know if your settings are really taken into account. Hope this helps, regards Jose Timo Lindemann escribió: On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:21:11 +0100, Jose González Gómez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jose, Timo, I'm installing Gentoo in a laptop and had a similar problem, but just adding "-kde -arts" to the USE variable in /etc/make.conf did the trick. I stated quite explicitly that USE does NOT solve it. I stated quite clearly that portage needs to be reworked to some extent. So what gives? I just want to choose to install only what's needed to run those damn programs I told emerge to make. Sorry to sound rough, but you missed my point entirely. Regards Jose Timo Lindemann escribió: Hi all, Everytime I install a Gentoo on a system, I curse and scream about one of the major flaws in portage. Whenever I want just one program emerged, say, on a laptop using xfce4 on xfree, USE="-kde -esd -arts -alsa -oss": I want to emerge anjuta, portage wants gnomelibs, which in turn want esd. It totally ignores my useflags, the fact that this notebook does not HAVE sound hardware. OK, that would be too much for portage to know, but the USE is ignored anyway. I just want to run anjuta with xfce4. Okay, I think. Lets emerge all that shit, and get over with. Next thing, I want licq. I pretend. Guess what appears on the list? artsd! I cant stand it, really. Gentoo would be such a nice distro, but it is ALL BLOATED. The fact that it is the best distro out there does make up to that, but it just would be NICER it didn't have to. So I suggest: Let there be a mode for Portage where all CRITICAL dependencies are shown, what the program I want NEEDS to run. I dont want to have an entire OS installed if I just want one program. artsd is not a dep from licq, but somehow entagled in that kde thing, which I dont WANT to have. So, a distinction needs to be made between USEFUL deps, or standard deps, and CRITICAL deps, or needed deps. What do you think? Regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad, kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3
Oh... what the [EMAIL PROTECTED] that was... I wasn't aware of the synaptics ebuild ! Thanks a lot regards Jose Neil Bothwick escribió: Is there anybody out there with a laptop with kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3 and a working Synaptics touchpad? I couldn't get the synaptics driver to work at all with 3.3, and the standard driver gave terrible response. So I bit the bullet and emerged xfree 4.3.99-902-r1 and synaptics 0.12.1 and it works very well. You'll need to read the synaptics docs to get the right settings for XF86config, but it's fairly straightforward. Cheers Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage suggestion
Timo, I'm installing Gentoo in a laptop and had a similar problem, but just adding "-kde -arts" to the USE variable in /etc/make.conf did the trick. Regards Jose Timo Lindemann escribió: Hi all, Everytime I install a Gentoo on a system, I curse and scream about one of the major flaws in portage. Whenever I want just one program emerged, say, on a laptop using xfce4 on xfree, USE="-kde -esd -arts -alsa -oss": I want to emerge anjuta, portage wants gnomelibs, which in turn want esd. It totally ignores my useflags, the fact that this notebook does not HAVE sound hardware. OK, that would be too much for portage to know, but the USE is ignored anyway. I just want to run anjuta with xfce4. Okay, I think. Lets emerge all that shit, and get over with. Next thing, I want licq. I pretend. Guess what appears on the list? artsd! I cant stand it, really. Gentoo would be such a nice distro, but it is ALL BLOATED. The fact that it is the best distro out there does make up to that, but it just would be NICER it didn't have to. So I suggest: Let there be a mode for Portage where all CRITICAL dependencies are shown, what the program I want NEEDS to run. I dont want to have an entire OS installed if I just want one program. artsd is not a dep from licq, but somehow entagled in that kde thing, which I dont WANT to have. So, a distinction needs to be made between USEFUL deps, or standard deps, and CRITICAL deps, or needed deps. What do you think? Regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail confirmation requests
Hi there, I've been reading and posting here for more than a year now, and I think this is the first time I've seen such a thread here. First of all, I think every individual here is helpful for the rest of the community. Regardless of her experience level, I think everybody here may have faced and solved some problem that eventually another people may find, so we all post here to find solution to our problems and to try to help other people whenever we can. So losing just one people, even the less experienced, is terrible. Take also into account that a people that is happy to use Gentoo (or their mailing lists) will tell to three people. A people that has had a bad experience with Gentoo (or their mailing lists) will tell to ten people. This is a basic marketing principle. I think it's normal that from time to time arises such a thread, but I think the best we could do is to behave like gentlemen, forgive and forget, and the most important, don't let anybody go out from this list just for such a discussion. Just my 2cents (of euro in my case) Jose Kevin Hanson escribió: Grendel wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Norbert Kamenicky howled, IMHO bigger problem are individuals which like to start new thread by reply of another one. noro You have pushed this once too often and are showing your utter immaturity noro, so I am adding you to my killfilter. Usually my killfilters bayesian model identifies people who are likely to be added to my killfile in advance based on my previous selections and the offenders postings and automatically adds them to save me the touble, but noro seems to have escaped detection and is turning to be annoying. So I will add him myself. *plonk* Grendel Grendel, You are a jerk. Go away. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad, kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3
Tom, I have exactly the same problems as Mathew, so could you please tell me how have you configured kernel and X? Right now I have enabled the event input interface in kernel, and have tried to load the synaptics module in X, but X is not able to find it (now I remember I have tested this with XFree 3.3.99, maybe in 3.3 would work?) Thanks a lot, regards Jose Tom Syroid escribió: Jose, --On Friday, February 13, 2004 01:32:59 +0100 Jose González Gómez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi there, Is there anybody out there with a laptop with kernel 2.6, XFree 3.3 and a working Synaptics touchpad? I've found the following links: I do. What, specifically, is it your looking for? Kernel conf? X config? It's all kinda inter-related ;-) I'll give you what I can, but you have to start by providing some feedback on how far you're got, where you're stuck, etc. One item of note: Cursor movement is still a little wild; haven't found the right tweak yet. But the configuration is workable. /tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 1394 modules under Gentoo
I think you should modify /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.x instead. Or emerge hotplug, rc-update add hotplug default. Regards Jose Mark Knecht escribió: Hi, My home boxes use 1394 built into the kernel so I don't have this issue. Some new machines at work have 1394 built as modules. What's the right way to load these modules under Gentoo? Should I create some arbitrary file like /etc/modules.d/ohci , name them in there and then run modules-update? What's the right way to do this? Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
Rob, Maybe you could take a look at genkernel. Although it's a bit inmature, it's supposed to do all the dirty stuff for you, and you only have to edit the grub configuration file with the parameters provided by genkernel. About the kernel being corrupted, are you sure you are pointing grub to the right place? Maybe you have copied the wrong file? Don't worry about the size of the kernel, it depends on the things you compile into it, the more options you include, the bigger the kernel. Regards Jose Rob Barnett escribió: Jose, I am using a manual compilation. It creates the kernel and System.map. I have set it up correctly with Grub just like the first compile that I did. When I boot, it says the file is corrupt. Unfortunately, I am not near my computer to see the exact message. The kernel is twice the size as the original kernel. I even tried to compile with the orignal setting to get a kernel that matched the original, but to no success. Gracias, Rob - Original Message ----- From: "Jose González Gómez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Rob, Manual compilation or using genkernel? What about error messages? Have you double checked everything is fine in /boot? Regards Jose Rob Barnett escribió: I have a dell Inspiron 8500 notebook. I have installed using gentoo-dev-sources using stage-1. Everything worked great I booted into it and discovered that I did not configure my network card or a file system that was required by 2.6. I tryed to do another make as before but when I try to boot into it, it would not. Is there something I missed with the kernel to compress it or something so that grub will boot using it. I can only boot using the original kernel that I created. Thanks, Rob -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dell Inspiron 8500
Rob, I don't know about those specific devices, but you could take a look at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html or http://tuxmobil.org/dell.html, there are a few articles on Inspiron 8500. They're not for Gentoo, but you may learn a lot from them, and then apply to Gentoo. Anyway, you may also search in the kernel options for those devices. Regards Jose Rob Barnett escribió: Does 2.6 support the following? How do I set the kernel to support them? 1) 64MB Nvidia GeForce4 4200 Go video 2) Dell 1300 WLAN (802.11) 3) SigmaTel C-Major Audio 4) Broadcom 440x 10/100 ethernet Thanks, Rob -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
Rob, Manual compilation or using genkernel? What about error messages? Have you double checked everything is fine in /boot? Regards Jose Rob Barnett escribió: I have a dell Inspiron 8500 notebook. I have installed using gentoo-dev-sources using stage-1. Everything worked great I booted into it and discovered that I did not configure my network card or a file system that was required by 2.6. I tryed to do another make as before but when I try to boot into it, it would not. Is there something I missed with the kernel to compress it or something so that grub will boot using it. I can only boot using the original kernel that I created. Thanks, Rob -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350
Martin, I tried with the savage driver with no success... right now I'm compiling the development version of xfree, that is supposed to contain the via driver. Thanks, regards Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribiÃ: Of course it's an VIA but Via has bought the Technology from S3 The KM233 form VIA is compatible to the S3-Savage4 and AFAIK it is the same for the newer Chipsets too My notebook (KM233) works fine with the savage driver (but without 3D-support) I thing the savage driver might help you too. Martin PS: it might be that our notebooks are nearly the same ... (here in Germany are such rumors for Acer Aspire 13xx and Siemens-Fujitsu) Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote: Norbert, Ok, you have impressed me, but... how the $#@ do you know this device is the KM400 chipset? I really would like to know :o) Do you know which settings should I use to properly use this video card, or must I stick to the vesa driver? Thanks a lot for your help Jose Norbert Kamenicky escribiÃ: Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote: Hi there, I also have problems with my video card on my Acer Aspire 1350 (yes, I'm the same guy with the APM/ACPI dilemma). Following the specifications in the Acer web page, my laptop should have an S3 Savage or an ATI Mobility Radeon, but whenever I run a lspci | grep VGA I get the following: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 7205 (rev 01) No, it's not S3 nor ATI, but as lspci says, it's VIA. Device 7205 is KM400. noro -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo female?
bit root # emerge sys-party/get-out These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies \ !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "sys-kernel/gentoo-female" have been masked. !!! possible candidates are: - sys-kernel/gentoo-female-1.0-rlisa (masked by: discussion.mask, ~me) - sys-kernel/gentoo-female-1.1-rmary (masked by: otherguy.mask) - sys-kernel/gentoo-female-1.2-rrose (masked by: thosedays.mask) !!!(dependency required by "sys-party/get-out-0.9" [ebuild]) !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct. :o( Drake Wyrm escribió: On Wed, 2004-02-11, 00:33:32 -0500, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Clay Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2004 11:11 pm, LoneStar wrote: I'm beginning to think gentoo is female. You sould get out more. =D What's this "out" thing I keep hearing about? From where does one download "out"? :D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350
I have just upgraded to 2.6 and now the battery applet seems to be working properly. I'll take a look at the rest of the functionalities tomorrow. Thanks for your help, regards Jose Grendel escribiÃ: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez commented... Ok, let's try a 2.6 kernel... should I take away APM from the kernel options? I have checked it and it's there currently as a module. No need, linux by default prefers ACPI over APM, so you need not worry about this if you enable acpi as well. Of course if you really want to you can remove the apm support but it wont matter. Grendel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VIA driver missing in XFree 4.3.xx (was Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350)
Thanks to everybody for the help. Ok, we are closing up... it seems my video card needs the via driver included in XFree 4.3.xx. I have taken a look to the ebuild for xfree-4.3.0-r4, and I have found the following lines, all of them commented out: # mirror://gentoo/XFree86-4.3.0-drivers-via-${VIADRV_VER}.tar.bz2" # ebegin "Adding VIA driver" # cd ${WORKDIR} # unpack XFree86-${PV}-drivers-via-${VIADRV_VER}.tar.bz2 # cd ${S} # eend 0 # Compile the VIA driver # echo "#define XF86ExtraCardDrivers via" >> config/cf/host.def Could somebody from the Gento team comment on this, please? Could I have this driver compiled just including those lines in the ebuild? Has this been commented out due to some bug? Thanks, regards Jose Norbert Kamenicky escribiÃ: Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote: Ok, you have impressed me, but... how the $#@ do you know this device is the KM400 chipset? I really would like to know :o) The trick is to put about three words to ggle :-). This URL occured: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=648 Do you know which settings should I use to properly use this video card, or must I stick to the vesa driver? Since I never played with it, I can just give u an advice: Visit www.via.com.tw (look for linux drivers). VIA is taking much more care about linux users as other chinese co.'s, so 4 sure u'll find relevant info. noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350
Norbert, Ok, you have impressed me, but... how the $#@ do you know this device is the KM400 chipset? I really would like to know :o) Do you know which settings should I use to properly use this video card, or must I stick to the vesa driver? Thanks a lot for your help Jose Norbert Kamenicky escribiÃ: Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez wrote: Hi there, I also have problems with my video card on my Acer Aspire 1350 (yes, I'm the same guy with the APM/ACPI dilemma). Following the specifications in the Acer web page, my laptop should have an S3 Savage or an ATI Mobility Radeon, but whenever I run a lspci | grep VGA I get the following: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 7205 (rev 01) No, it's not S3 nor ATI, but as lspci says, it's VIA. Device 7205 is KM400. noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350
Ok, let's try a 2.6 kernel... should I take away APM from the kernel options? I have checked it and it's there currently as a module. Grendel escribiÃ: On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez commented... Grendel, I have posted a message to the Gentoo forums with this issue, including all the information I have been able to collect. You can access it at: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=134849 First things first, linux 2.6 has much better ACPI support so it is worth it if you can try to use one of the 2.6 kernels and see if it recognises your machine. Bye, grendel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350
Grendel, I have posted a message to the Gentoo forums with this issue, including all the information I have been able to collect. You can access it at: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=134849 Tanks for your time, Jose Grendel escribiÃ: On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez commented... Hi there, I have an Acer Aspire 1350 laptop where I have just installed Gentoo. The problem is that I don't manage to get ACPI working. I've been reading a lot of stuff in the mailing list, the forums, etc, but I don't have a clear picture of this: 1. Are APM and ACPI related? I understand I should use *only* one of them but not both, is this correct? APM is the first of the power management protocols. This was used in the good old days for putting the disks into standby etc. ACPI is a more advanced protocol, where a ACPI aware OS (if the BIOS supports ACPI (only bioses within the last 2-3 years do this IIRC) can request ACPI aware devices to put themselves in a power saving state, this includes harddisks, network cards, CPU. If a device cant oblige with the request at that time then it is free to reject the ACPI request. You can use only one method, ie APM or ACPI not both. Usually the kernel defaults to supporting ACPI, but you can force it to use APM by passing the acpi=off option at boot time. 2. Should I try to move to APM if I'm not able to get ACPI running? The only problem is linux's ACPI implementation still isnt stable for certain chipsets, notably nforce2/AMD platform. So if when you have ACPI enabled you get random lockups, or notie that he machine is running slow, then disable it and use APM. You can enter low power states using APM, no problem. 3. Will I have all the battery, sleep, hibernate, etc stuff in APM? You can put the disks into low power standby, or suspend. I am not sure whether hibernating or suspend to ram is possible in APM. 4. Does anybody out there have an Acer Aspire 1350 with a working Gentoo that would share her experinces with me, please? By the way, I'm using kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5, there seems to be some part of ACPI working, as I'm able to see some messages in /var/log/messages when I plug/unplug my AC cord, but I don't have any /proc/acpi/battery directory. I can post more information if needed. When the kernel boots up do you get a boot up message like "ACPI initialise" etc... Grendel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350
I was waiting for 2.6 to become stable in Gentoo, but it seems I'll have to take a look at them... Tom Wesley escribió: On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 21:05, Jose González Gómez wrote: Hi there, I have an Acer Aspire 1350 laptop where I have just installed Gentoo. The problem is that I don't manage to get ACPI working. I've been reading a lot of stuff in the mailing list, the forums, etc, but I don't have a clear picture of this: 1. Are APM and ACPI related? I understand I should use *only* one of them but not both, is this correct? 2. Should I try to move to APM if I'm not able to get ACPI running? 3. Will I have all the battery, sleep, hibernate, etc stuff in APM? 4. Does anybody out there have an Acer Aspire 1350 with a working Gentoo that would share her experinces with me, please? By the way, I'm using kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5, there seems to be some part of ACPI working, as I'm able to see some messages in /var/log/messages when I plug/unplug my AC cord, but I don't have any /proc/acpi/battery directory. I can post more information if needed. Thanks a lot, regards Jose Although I don't actually have a laptop at all, but I have heard that 2.6 kernels include better power management support, including fancy things like hibernate... Might be worth a look? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Unknown video card on Acer Aspire 1350
Hi there, I also have problems with my video card on my Acer Aspire 1350 (yes, I'm the same guy with the APM/ACPI dilemma). Following the specifications in the Acer web page, my laptop should have an S3 Savage or an ATI Mobility Radeon, but whenever I run a lspci | grep VGA I get the following: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 7205 (rev 01) I tried both the savage and radeon drivers in X with no success, so right now I'm working with the vesa driver. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, regards Jose -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] APM vs ACPI on Acer Aspire 1350
Hi there, I have an Acer Aspire 1350 laptop where I have just installed Gentoo. The problem is that I don't manage to get ACPI working. I've been reading a lot of stuff in the mailing list, the forums, etc, but I don't have a clear picture of this: 1. Are APM and ACPI related? I understand I should use *only* one of them but not both, is this correct? 2. Should I try to move to APM if I'm not able to get ACPI running? 3. Will I have all the battery, sleep, hibernate, etc stuff in APM? 4. Does anybody out there have an Acer Aspire 1350 with a working Gentoo that would share her experinces with me, please? By the way, I'm using kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5, there seems to be some part of ACPI working, as I'm able to see some messages in /var/log/messages when I plug/unplug my AC cord, but I don't have any /proc/acpi/battery directory. I can post more information if needed. Thanks a lot, regards Jose -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xfree update
I think it should be a painless upgrade (for me, they're almost always painless) as long as you don't forget to run etc-update after updating and before rebooting. Anyway, take a look at the changelog to see if it's worth emerging the new version. Regards Jose Chuck Mize escribió: I noticed there is an update to xfree: [ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r4 [4.3.0-r3] But I haven't been using Gentoo long enough to know how messy it is to update packages like xfree and gnome after I've finally gotten them working the way I want them. Should this be a painless upgrade or should I hold off? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Grendel, You can do it, but expect a long time compiling your modules :o) Regards Jose Grendel escribió: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, The awesome and feared Norbert Kamenicky commented thusly, Alexandre Aractingi wrote: - I have been a (very happy) Mandrake user for some time now, and I particularly like their PLF site (rpm repository of legally Most of us switched to Gentoo, because we are expecting much more Mandrake can offer, but this is payed by little bit less comfort. Do not expect Gentoo has GUI to setup every piece of sw and/or it will run just after installation. Actually I wonder why this is the case. I was really impressed by the way the livecd detected all of my hardware and autoconfigured it (it even detected by nforce2 nvnet driver, so far the only installation to do this). Surely the same tool(s) can also be installed as part of the base package, which can be optionally invoked by the user if necessary and which will modify the necesasry files. Bye, Grendel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
Daniel, I think you are wrong here. The new genkernel by default configures the kernel with almost everything as a module, so you have both options: 1. Manually compile the kernel, choose the drivers you need, and edit /etc/modules.autoload 2. Compile the kernel using genkernel (and the default configuration it provides), emerge hotplug, and rc-update add hotplug default In the first case you will have an optimized kernel only working for your machine and your current hardware. In the second case, you'll have a kernel that takes a lot to build but than can autoconfigure when detecting new hardware. So, again Gentoo is all about choices :o) Regards Jose Daniel Drake escribió: Grendel wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Mike Williams commented thusly, - Is there some distribution-specific scripts/apps to handle addition and removal of hardware (scanner, printer...)? Not to my knowledge. I too am a user about to install gentoo, I have been postponing it till I get some good old scottish whisky to put me in the mood, I am kind of feeling sentimental about having toi kick mandrake out :) With regard to this aspect of the question, surely gentoo must handle this hardware detection and installation of necessary drivers well? The livecd which I booted into recognised all my hardware and loaded the ethernet card so I had a network connection working, so the base system which we install to the hdd must have some kind of auto detection, otherwise do we have to type the alias eth0 rtl8139too commands manuall to the /etc/modulesxxx files? Thats only the livecd. For your real install, you will need to: - Compile support for your network card into the kernel - Add it to modules.autoload if you compiled it as a module - Configure /etc/conf.d/net for DHCP or static IP. I don't understand what is meant by the original question (scanners/printers). Are you asking if there is an autoconfiguration method? If so, not natively as part of gentoo. However, a well configured system (even default configurations) will handle the addition/removal of devices like this well, e.g.: - If you use hotplug, it will load the printer module when you plug in your printer, and remove it when its disconnected - If you try and print before the printer is connected, CUPS will queue the job and wait until the printer appaers - You can't scan unless your scanner is plugged in Or did I misunderstand the question? Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't boot new system
Ops, I forgot... don't forget to manually mount /boot if you use the install option of genkernel Regards Jose Jose González Gómez escribió: There are some known issues with the new genkernel... I have been able to install two kernels on different machines without any problem after taking this into account. Just take a look at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=124530 and comment out MAKEOPTS in /usr/share/genkernel/x86/config.sh Regards Jose LoneStar escribió: Every kernel I've built using genkernel beta version has had problems with the initrd. I work around this by commenting out the initrd line in my boot loader (grub) and the kernel loads without problems. Moshe Kaminsky wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup gentoo at home. I'm stuck with the kernel: when the boot process starts, everything seems to be ok for a while. Then, I get the following line twice: /linuxrc: 285: test: not found and then the machine reboot. This happens with both the 2.4.22-gentoo-r5 and 2.6.1-gentoo-r1 kernels. I'm using genkernel 3.0.1_beta8 to compile the kernel, and I pass the parameters mentioned in the genkernel README file. Any help is appreciated Moshe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't boot new system
There are some known issues with the new genkernel... I have been able to install two kernels on different machines without any problem after taking this into account. Just take a look at http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=124530 and comment out MAKEOPTS in /usr/share/genkernel/x86/config.sh Regards Jose LoneStar escribió: Every kernel I've built using genkernel beta version has had problems with the initrd. I work around this by commenting out the initrd line in my boot loader (grub) and the kernel loads without problems. Moshe Kaminsky wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup gentoo at home. I'm stuck with the kernel: when the boot process starts, everything seems to be ok for a while. Then, I get the following line twice: /linuxrc: 285: test: not found and then the machine reboot. This happens with both the 2.4.22-gentoo-r5 and 2.6.1-gentoo-r1 kernels. I'm using genkernel 3.0.1_beta8 to compile the kernel, and I pass the parameters mentioned in the genkernel README file. Any help is appreciated Moshe -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla 1.6 not compiling
Alberto, I have successfully compiled mozilla 1.6. Have you tried to resync and emerge again? Some strange compilation problems goes away doing this. Regards Jose Alberto Bert escribió: On Feb 06 at 01:25PM+0100, Redeeman wrote: i just emerged for some days ago, very strange, tried cut down the CFLAGS? it doesn't compile the same way also with default CFLAGS: -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe :-( alb On Fri, 2004-02-06 at 12:46, Alberto Bert wrote: Hi all, I'm not an expert of gentoo at all, but I've never had compilation problems up to now (~ 1 year working), so I was very surpised today... I tryed to emerge mozilla 1.6, it requested several other updating and new emerging, among them xfree, gtk+, etc. The compilation stops with the following error message. Plus, now something seems to be happened to emerge, since when I try to emerge centain packages it gives me errors like: snoopy root # emerge -pv xterm These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "xterm" have been masked. !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct. the error appear not for all packages... What am Isupposed to "correct"? Any help would be VERY appreciated. thanks, Alberto g++ -o nsAccessProxy.o -c -DOSTYPE=\"Linux2.4\" -DOSARCH=\"Linux\" -I../../../dist/include/xpcom -I../../../dist/include/string -I../../../dist/include/docshell -I../../../dist/include/dom -I../../../dist/include/widget -I../../../dist/include/gfx -I../../../dist/include/layout -I../../../dist/include/content -I../../../dist/include/uriloader -I../../../dist/include/pref -I../../../dist/include/embedcomponents -I../../../dist/include/accessproxy -I../../../dist/include -I/var/tmp/portage/mozilla-1.6/work/mozilla/dist/include/nspr -I/usr/X11R6/include -fPIC -I/usr/X11R6/include -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-long-long -march=pentium3 -mcpu=pentium4 -pipe -s -fforce-addr -Wno-deprecated -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -ffunction-sections -O2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../mozilla-config.h -Wp,-MD,.deps/nsAccessProxy.pp nsAccessProxy.cpp nsAccessProxy.cpp:46:25: nsIRegistry.h: No such file or directory In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:52: ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:48:20: nsIURI.h: No such file or directory ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:53:26: nsILoadGroup.h: No such file or directory In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:52: ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In instantiation of `nsDerivedSafe': ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135: instantiated from here ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135: base class `nsIURI' has incomplete type ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In member function `nsIURI* nsIDocument::GetDocumentURL() const': ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:135: cannot convert `const nsCOMPtr' to `nsIURI*' in return ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h: In member function `nsIURI* nsIDocument::GetBaseURL() const': ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:163: cannot convert `const nsCOMPtr' to `nsIURI*' in return In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:58: nsAccessProxy.h:35:28: nsIAccessProxy.h: No such file or directory In file included from nsAccessProxy.cpp:58: nsAccessProxy.h: In static member function `static const nsID& nsAccessProxy::GetCID()': nsAccessProxy.h:64: `NS_ACCESSPROXY_CID' undeclared (first use this function) nsAccessProxy.h:64: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) nsAccessProxy.cpp: In member function `virtual nsresult nsAccessProxy::HandleEvent(nsIDOMEvent*)': nsAccessProxy.cpp:102: invalid use of undefined type `struct nsIDOMEvent' ../../../dist/include/dom/domstubs.h:107: forward declaration of `struct nsIDOMEvent' nsAccessProxy.cpp:113: cannot convert `nsIDOMEvent*' to `nsISupports*' for argument `1' to `const nsQueryInterface do_QueryInterface(nsISupports*, nsresult*)' ../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h: In member function `nsCOMPtr& nsCOMPtr::operator=(T*) [with T = nsIURI]': ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:136: instantiated from here ../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h:570: no matching function for call to ` nsCOMPtr::assign_with_AddRef(nsIURI*&)' ../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h:407: candidates are: void nsCOMPtr_base::assign_with_AddRef(nsISupports*) ../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsISupportsUtils.h: In static member function `static const nsIID& nsCOMTypeInfo::GetIID() [with T = nsILoadGroup]': ../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsIWeakReferenceUtils.h:62: instantiated from `nsresult CallQueryReferent(T*, DestinationType**) [with T = nsDerivedSafe, DestinationType = nsILoadGroup]' ../../../dist/include/content/nsIDocument.h:154: instantiated from here ../..
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel documentation?
Ernie, Could you tail -n 30 /var/log/genkernel.log and paste here? Regards Jose Ernie Schroder escribió: On Friday 06 February 2004 11:22 am, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Friday 06 February 2004 10:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le fév février à 15:36:20 Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit notamment: I've been looking for documentation on genkernel 3.0.1_beta9 and not having a lot of luck. What I want to do is build 2.6.1-gentoo. From /usr/src, I did: ln -sf linux-2.6.1-gentoo linux && cd linux Then: # genkernel -- menuconfig --install all GenKernel v3.0.1_beta9 * ARCH: x86 * KERNEL VER: 2.4.20-gentoo-r7 [] genkernel believes you want to configure your 2.4.20 kernel, I think because you did not type "rm linux" before creating a new symlink (check with ls -l) As for the doc, man genkernel is quite clear; after reading it I had no more problems with it Doesn't the "f" option force the symbolic link? Hmmm guess not. I removed and recreated the link and all seems well now. Thanks Jean. Genkernel failed.(see below) Do I need to emerge dietlibc here? make: execvp: ./threadsafe.sh: Permission denied ar cru bin-i386/libpthread.a bin-i386/__testandset.o gcc -Iinclude -pipe -nostdinc -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarati ons -Wno-switch -Wredundant-decls -Wno-unused -nostdlib -o bin-i386/diet bin-i386/start.o bin-i386 /dyn_start.o diet.c bin-i386/dietlibc.a bin-i386/dyn_stop.o -DDIETHOME=\"/tmp/dietlibc-0.24\" -DVE RSION=\"dietlibc-0.24\" -lgcc strip -R .comment -R .note bin-i386/diet gcc -Iinclude -pipe -nostdinc -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarati ons -Wno-switch -Wredundant-decls -Wno-unused -nostdlib -o bin-i386/diet-i bin-i386/start.o bin-i3 86/dyn_start.o diet.c bin-i386/dietlibc.a bin-i386/dyn_stop.o -DDIETHOME=\"/tmp/diet\" -DVERSION=\ "dietlibc-0.24\" -DINSTALLVERSION -lgcc strip -R .comment -R .note bin-i386/diet-i bin-i386/diet gcc -pipe -nostdinc -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-decla rations -Wno-switch -Wredundant-decls -Wno-unused -o bin-i386/elftrunc contrib/elftrunc.c make: execvp: bin-i386/diet: Permission denied make: *** [bin-i386/elftrunc] Error 127 * gen_die(): compile of prefix=/tmp/diet failed * Please see /var/log/genkernel.log for more info on failures not much I can see in the log that is of help -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with first boot
In my case I have done an install from stage1, with a reiserfs root partition, and I have compiled the kernel using genkernel, instead of manually compiling the kernel. I have changed some options in the kernel using genkernel --menuconfig, but nothing related to the file system options, just the processor type. Regards Jose Stroller escribió: On Feb 4, 2004, at 4:07 pm, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This problem has occured even if I made my "/" partition as ext2 or ext3 fs type. When you do so, do you reformat & reinstall from the stages..? What is your root partition actually formatted as..? Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with first boot
Marcelo, Do you mean that you have solved the mount problem? I'm still stuck with that... regards Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: My configuration files are exactly like yours. The only difference on fstab is: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 ( your ) /dev/cdrom/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 ( mine ) About your doubt concerning /dev/ram0 and initrd command, those are recommendations after genkernel has finished compilation. I've used gentoo-sources with genkernell all --install options to do my kernel compilation and everithing was OK. Thank you for your help. Marcelo Hi there, I'm experiencing the same problem as barreto, this is my third machine with Gentoo installed, and is the first time I have obtained this. Output from fdisk p: /dev/hda1 * 1 9 72261 83 Linux /dev/hda2 10 134 1004062+ Linux swap /dev/hda3 135 4864 37993725 83 Linux My grub.conf (I've tried with the commented and uncommented lines without success): title Gentoo Linux root (hd0,0) #kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=verbose kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=verbose initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 My /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 noauto, noatime 1 2 /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hda3 / reiserfs noatime 0 1 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 Some comments: I've taken a look at my working machines, and there is no initrd command in the grub configuration file. And what about /dev/ram0? Why is that included? What is it? Thanks Jose -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problems with first boot
Hi there, I'm experiencing the same problem as barreto, this is my third machine with Gentoo installed, and is the first time I have obtained this. Output from fdisk p: /dev/hda1 * 1 9 72261 83 Linux /dev/hda2 10 134 1004062+ Linux swap /dev/hda3 135 4864 37993725 83 Linux My grub.conf (I've tried with the commented and uncommented lines without success): title Gentoo Linux root (hd0,0) #kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=verbose kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/hda3 vga=0x317 splash=verbose initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.22-gentoo-r5 My /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 noauto, noatime 1 2 /dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hda3 / reiserfs noatime 0 1 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 Some comments: I've taken a look at my working machines, and there is no initrd command in the grub configuration file. And what about /dev/ram0? Why is that included? What is it? Thanks Jose -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list