Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Fish

Mark Knecht wrote:


On 10/21/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Mark Knecht wrote:

   


I'm tellin' ya. alsamixer is jsut a gui for amixer and amixer does not
work for every Alsa supported card. You need to find out from the Alsa
folks what is the supported mixer for this card.


 


Just an FYI, I also have an intel-hda (in my laptop).  Alsamixer
supports it just fine, except that the stupid card doesn't provide a
Master Volume control, so you have to adjust the speaker volume with
the Front control.  Stupid card.

-Richard
   



What kernel are you running? Can you give Michael a hint as to how you
set it up?
 



Kernel version is from suspend2-sources-2.6.13-r5.  I didn't have to do 
anything special for setup though...it just worked.


I suspect you are correct that it is a driver bug and a newer version of 
the driver would help.  Michael, sorry I haven't been following this 
thread closely, but have you tried a .14-rc kernel?  I just looked at 
vanilla-sources-2.6.14-rc5, and there seems to be some significant 
changes with the newest kernel.


Anyway, some basic information about my setup follows.  I can provide 
more if desired (particularly /etc/asound.state, ~/.asoundrc, or amixer 
output).


carcharias linux # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
...
snd_hda_intel  15872  1
snd_hda_codec  73536  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm78600  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer  22212  1 snd_pcm
snd43192  6 
snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer

soundcore   9056  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  9800  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
...

carcharias linux # emerge -vp alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-tools alsa-headers
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.9  +doc -jack 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a-r1  +nls 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.9b  0 kB

carcharias linux # lspci -n
...
00:1b.0 0403: 8086:2668 (rev 04)
...

carcharias linux # lspci -vv
...
00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 
Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)

   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 10c3
   Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- 
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
   Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-

   Latency: 0, Cache Line Size 08
   Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
   Region 0: Memory at febf8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
   Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
   Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA 
PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)

   Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
   Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ 
Queue=0/0 Enable-

   Address:   Data: 
   Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0
   Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, 
ExtTag-

   Device: Latency L0s 64ns, L1 1us
   Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
   Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
   Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
   Link: Supported Speed unknown, Width x0, ASPM unknown, 
Port 0

   Link: Latency L0s 64ns, L1 1us
   Link: ASPM Disabled CommClk- ExtSynch-
   Link: Speed unknown, Width x0
   Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
   Capabilities: [130] Unknown (5)
...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Leery of Gnome dependencies for Openoffice

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Fish

Mark Shields wrote:

So... this is just a case of this ebuild having a default setting of 
the gnome USE flag turned on.





Well, I just emerged openoffice today (had been using the -bin).  I 
found you also have to turn off the eds use flag if you really want to 
avoid any gnome dependancies.  With eds, OOo can use the 
evolution-data-server as an address book source, but it pulls in a bunch 
of gnome dependancies to do that:


carcharias linux # USE=eds emerge -Dv --pretend openoffice
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] net-libs/libsoup-2.2.6.1  -debug +doc +ssl -static 420 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1  -debug +doc -static 1,326 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gconf-2.12.0  -debug +doc -static 1,855 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  -debug 829 kB
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.4 [2.12.2] -debug +doc* +ssl 
-static 661 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1  -debug +doc -gnutls -hal 
-howl +ipv6 +samba +ssl 1,686 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnome-2.12.0.1  -debug +doc -esd -static 
932 kB

[ebuild  N] dev-libs/nspr-4.4.1-r2  1,293 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/nss-3.9.2-r3  4,623 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.12.0  +X -debug +doc -static 
576 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.10.1-r1  +X -debug +doc -static 
863 kB

[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-0.4.5  -debug 367 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.12.0  -debug +doc +jpeg -static 
1,788 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.4.1  -debug +doc 
+ipv6 -kerberos -krb4 -ldap -mozilla -nntp +ssl -static 13,843 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-2.0.0  +curl +eds* -gnome -java 
+kde -ldap -mozilla -nas +xml2 +zlib 0 kB

[ebuild  N] x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8  30 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1  -debug 3,040 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.12.1  -accessibility -debug 
2,501 kB


carcharias linux # USE=gnome emerge -Dv --pretend openoffice
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gconf-2.12.0  -debug +doc -static 1,855 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  -debug 829 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1  -debug +doc -static 1,326 kB
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.4 [2.12.2] -debug +doc* +ssl 
-static 661 kB
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1  -debug +doc -gnutls -hal 
-howl +ipv6 +samba +ssl 1,686 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-2.0.0  +curl -eds +gnome* -java 
+kde -ldap -mozilla -nas +xml2 +zlib 0 kB


You actually get _fewer_ Gnome dependancies from +gnome than you do from 
+eds!


-Richard

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[gentoo-user] gnome-vfs

2005-10-22 Thread Csanyi Andras
Hi!

i have a problem :)

grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la:
No such file or directory /bin/sed: can't
read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la:
No such file or directory libtool: link:
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la' is
not a valid libtool archive make[2]: *** [libfile.la] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1/work/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1/modules'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1/work/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1' make:
*** [all] Error 2

i search the google, i find this:
http://www.usenetlinux.com/archive/topic.php/t-492900.html

and i make this:

sayusi bundi # fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.6
 * Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...
sayusi bundi # 

and nothing...
the gnome-fvs is not compiling
i reinstall the gentoo but gnome-vfs is not compiling.

what do i?
sorry my english and i am little nervos and tired

thx!

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice 2.0 has long pauses

2005-10-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:24:07 -0600
Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been using OpenOffice 2.0 since the 1.9.xx beta era.  For a while,
 I've had issues with the responsiveness when I click a menu or use the
 scroll bar with my mouse.  Clicking a menu or scrolling with the mouse
 causes the program to pause for a few seconds before something happens.
  I don't have this issue with other applications.  Is this an
 installation or configuration issue?  Or is it simply a slow OpenOffice?
  Anyone else have similar symptoms?  Can it be fixed?

You're shure that your hardware allows a fluent work with OOo? You
might want to keep an eye on swapin/swapout measure at the time you're
experiencing this. You can monitor this easily by issuing

$ vmstat 2

in a shell window. If the si/so values are high in such a situation,
you simply lack a bit of RAM.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Stealth Ethernet testing

2005-10-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:19:15 + (UTC)
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, after much ado, it seems quite easy (trivial) to hide an ethernet 
 interface, while being able to collect reems of local ethernet traffic
 based data, from both snort and ethereal.

No, it's not that easy - depending on your requirements on the hiding.
 
 Here's the normal ethernet interace on a portable:
  /sbin/ifconfig -a
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:0D:30:0E
   inet addr:192.168.2.15  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
 
 
 issued:
 
 route delete default
 ifconfig eth0  inet 0.0.0.0
 
 and voila:
 /sbin/infconif -a
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:0D:30:0E
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

Yep, it's up and doesn't have an IP. If this is sufficient for you,
fine then.

 On any system, 'ping 0.0.0.0' receives responses from the local
 interface.

No, if you specify an interface for those packets, it most probably
won't receive anything. But that's nitpicking here...

 What I need is for folks to test and verify that an ethernet 
 interface setup this way, is indeed invisible (undetectable)
 by other systems.

It surely isn't. It's up, listening at least to broadcasts and
multicasts (well, it's written uppercase in the ipconfig output).

 If you find this is not true, please tell me what you did and 
 what tool/syntax you used to discover/detect a system with an
 ethernet interface set up this way

emerge hping2, emerge arping. And then play a little bit. Note that
ethernet frames don't rely on IPs to get to their targets. In the above
described situation, I would try to send a bunch of different ethernet
frames to that machine and see what happenes. If I were you, I would
dedicate another machine for the testing stage that sniffs if the
machine answers anything. ping isn't really the tool of choice here.

If you really don't want to chose a hardware based solution and go the
software way, you should carefully inspect /proc/sys/net/... and have a
read in linux docs how to chose sysctls for not letting linux itself
spit out packages.

But using this way, it is scientifically impossible (well, nearly) to
100% negate the theory that a package might get through. I really
recommend the already mentioned way, cutting the Tx wires. After all,
this is simple and you can be sure that you didn't forget anything.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Patrick Börjesson
On 05/10/22 00:45, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Friday 21 October 2005 22:13, Jeff Smelser wrote:
  On Friday 21 October 2005 02:24 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
   but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
 
  Why not? I use it here and I never get crashes.. One doesnt mean the other.
 
 
 because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of 
 their 
 dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or transcode), 
 while themselves are not recombiled.
 
 xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone.
 
 It is just not wise:
 App X linked against library L.
 Now you do an --update --deep world.
 lib L gets a new version L.1.1.
 But X does not recompiled, and funny things can happen now.

This reasoning is pretty much void when dealing with libraries, since
there's often more than one application depending on a particular
library. 

Example:
App A and app B link agains library L.
Run an 'emerge -u A' and app A, and library L gets upgraded.
App B is fucked in the same way as you having run an 'emerge -deep
world', since B is not recompiled but its dependency is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread brullo nulla
 because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of their dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or transcode),
 while themselves are not recombiled. xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone.

Whoa. Now I know why my mplayer cannot read mpgs anymore. Thank you
guys. Anyway, I recompiled it a couple of days ago with a bunch of new
use flags, so I hope it will be fixed now.

 But it was the only problem I ever had with emerge -Du world. If
I can have a new lib that will fix bugs or improve something, I want
it. I won't bother recompiling some app that will complain, if needed.
But of course I'm talking of my desktop system, I think I would have a
very different approach for a production system.


[gentoo-user] USB problem(maybe related to udev)

2005-10-22 Thread Tamas Sarga
Hi,

I have a problem. I have a built-in USB hub in my monitor. I was able to
use it, but two weeks ago it startedto send:

hub 2-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 2 disabled

lines into my dmesg. Since then the devices what are connected to this
hub haven't worked.

I'm affraid, that my system was somehow hybrid udev-devfs system until I
removed devfsd for gentoo-sources-2.6.13.

My /etc/conf.d/rc has RC_DEVICES=udev, but I don't know what should be
set RC_USE_FSTAB. It is no at the moment.

If I connect a device directly to my PC, then it works, only the hub is
screwed up. The hardware is good 'cause it works with Knoppix.

What information do you need to help me?

TIA.
Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote:


Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:


On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:


My hole linux box has crashed 
I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world

it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
system is against me
I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
idea, my backups are unavailable now 


what do you mean 'crashed'?

does revdep-rebuilt still works?

but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.


Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.



--deep is totally superflous.
When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway.
So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the 
latest are always the fastest too. 

When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe 
douzends of apps, only to have the latest version?


A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make some 
apps crashyinstabil.
Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the 
libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least something 
that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when you update 
ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs).


--deep does not solve problems, it generates them.

Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet 
to have any of
these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and 
xine and they both work fine.
I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or 
just banal thinking?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Matan Peled
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 One more info, udev had crashed and I have to downgrade from 7.0 to
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A. You're top posting

B. yeah, udev-070 is bad. Use udev-070-r1...

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-vfs

2005-10-22 Thread Holly Bostick
Csanyi Andras schreef:
 Hi!

Hi!
 
 grep: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la:
  No such file or directory /bin/sed: can't read 
 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la: No 
 such file or directory libtool: link: 
 `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130/libstdc++.la' is 
 not a valid libtool archive make[2]: *** [libfile.la] Error 1 
 make[2]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1/work/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1/modules'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1/work/gnome-vfs-2.12.1.1' make: 
 *** [all] Error 2
 
 i search the google, i find this: 
 http://www.usenetlinux.com/archive/topic.php/t-492900.html

Right, you found something to tell you that you need to run
fix_libtools_files.sh. Good! (LOL, it was me, too!). That is the the
thing to do whenever you see an error containing this output:

 ..libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[2]: *** 
 [libfile.la] Error 1

 
 and i make this:
 
 sayusi bundi # fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.6 * Scanning libtool files 
 for hardcoded gcc library paths...

This is where you wen't wrong. If you need to run the script with
further parameters, the usage is:

Usage: fix_libtool_files.sh old-gcc-version [--oldarch old-CHOST]

(taken from reading the script with less)

But the thing is, your problem is not with gcc 3.3.6, as you put in the
command; if the problem is that you upgraded gcc (did you?), the proper
old version of gcc is listed in the error message:

3.3.5-20050130

So if libtool is failing because you upgraded gcc, the command should be

fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5-20050130

But if libtool is failing because you changed your CHOST (with or
without upgrading gcc), the command should be

fix_libtool_files.sh --oldarch i386-pc-linux-gnu

So you might try running the script with the correct command and see if
that helps more :-) .

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Re: [gentoo-user] Leery of Gnome dependencies for Openoffice

2005-10-22 Thread John J. Foster
On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 12:58:30AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 
 Well, I just emerged openoffice today (had been using the -bin).  I 
 found you also have to turn off the eds use flag if you really want to 
 avoid any gnome dependancies.  With eds, OOo can use the 
 evolution-data-server as an address book source, but it pulls in a bunch 
 of gnome dependancies to do that:
 
Last night I remembered that eds flag being mentioned a while back. As
soon as I added -eds and -mozilla to package.use, the install was more
along the lines of what I had hoped for as far a dependencies. The 7 hour
compile is a different story. Thankfully, I was required to sleep for 9.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 22 October 2005 14:26, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 My hole linux box has crashed 
 I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
 
 it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
 system is against me
 I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
 idea, my backups are unavailable now 
 
 what do you mean 'crashed'?
 
 does revdep-rebuilt still works?
 
 but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
 
 Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
 dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
 libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.
 
  --deep is totally superflous.
  When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway.
  So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the
  latest are always the fastest too.
 
  When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe
  douzends of apps, only to have the latest version?
 
  A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make
  some apps crashyinstabil.
  Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the
  libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least
  something that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when
  you update ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs).
 
  --deep does not solve problems, it generates them.

 Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet
 to have any of
 these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and
 xine and they both work fine.
 I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or
 just banal thinking?
 Regards,

direct experience.
I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times or KDE loosing its themes, 
because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember without to 
much brain work.
That is why I am healed from --deep updates

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 00:53 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 On 10/21/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 
 
 I'm tellin' ya. alsamixer is jsut a gui for amixer and amixer does not
 work for every Alsa supported card. You need to find out from the Alsa
 folks what is the supported mixer for this card.
 
 
   
 
 Just an FYI, I also have an intel-hda (in my laptop).  Alsamixer
 supports it just fine, except that the stupid card doesn't provide a
 Master Volume control, so you have to adjust the speaker volume with
 the Front control.  Stupid card.
 
 -Richard
 
 
 
 What kernel are you running? Can you give Michael a hint as to how you
 set it up?
   
 
 
 Kernel version is from suspend2-sources-2.6.13-r5.  I didn't have to do 
 anything special for setup though...it just worked.
 
 I suspect you are correct that it is a driver bug and a newer version of 
 the driver would help.  Michael, sorry I haven't been following this 
 thread closely, but have you tried a .14-rc kernel?  I just looked at 
 vanilla-sources-2.6.14-rc5, and there seems to be some significant 
 changes with the newest kernel.
 
 Anyway, some basic information about my setup follows.  I can provide 
 more if desired (particularly /etc/asound.state, ~/.asoundrc, or amixer 
 output).
 
 carcharias linux # lsmod
 Module  Size  Used by
 ...
 snd_hda_intel  15872  1
 snd_hda_codec  73536  1 snd_hda_intel
 snd_pcm78600  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
 snd_timer  22212  1 snd_pcm
 snd43192  6 
 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
 soundcore   9056  1 snd
 snd_page_alloc  9800  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
 ...
 
 carcharias linux # emerge -vp alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-tools alsa-headers
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.9  +doc -jack 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a-r1  +nls 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.9b  0 kB
 
 carcharias linux # lspci -n
 ...
 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:2668 (rev 04)
 ...
 
 carcharias linux # lspci -vv
 ...
 00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 
 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 10c3
 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- 
 ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
 Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- 
 TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
 Latency: 0, Cache Line Size 08
 Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
 Region 0: Memory at febf8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA 
 PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
 Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ 
 Queue=0/0 Enable-
 Address:   Data: 
 Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0
 Device: Supported: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, 
 ExtTag-
 Device: Latency L0s 64ns, L1 1us
 Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
 Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
 Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
 Link: Supported Speed unknown, Width x0, ASPM unknown, 
 Port 0
 Link: Latency L0s 64ns, L1 1us
 Link: ASPM Disabled CommClk- ExtSynch-
 Link: Speed unknown, Width x0
 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
 Capabilities: [130] Unknown (5)
 ...
 
 -Richard
 

I built and rebooted with the vanilla kernel  2.6.14-rc5 and
started /etc/init.d/alsasound:

camille ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound start
 * Loading ALSA modules ...
 *   Loading: snd-card-0 ...
[ ok ] *   Loading: snd-seq-oss ...
[ ok ] *   Loading: snd-pcm-oss ...
[ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ...
 * No mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card!
[ ok ]

I can modprobe snd-hda-intel successfully.

Here is lsmod:

camille ~ # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
snd_pcm_oss36256  0
snd_mixer_oss  12224  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss21280  0
snd_seq_midi_event  2976  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq30384  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device  4588  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_hda_intel  11328  0
snd_hda_codec  58816  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm49960  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer  14436  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd28676  9

[gentoo-user] ulimit question

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   How and where does Gentoo set the values I see in ulimit? Mostly
I'm intersted in the 'max locked memory' value.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ulimit -a
core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
pending signals (-i) 3967
max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) 32
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files  (-n) 1024
pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes  (-u) 3967
virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
file locks  (-x) unlimited
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Holly Bostick
Hemmann, Volker Armin schreef:
 direct experience. I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times 
 or KDE loosing its themes,

Yeah, but mplayer breaks if your breathe on it too hard, and Xine is not
all that much better (though better than gstreamer, and overall the best
in terms of stability).

New releases of KDE often are so buggy that you 1) *have* to upgrade
whatever is available to get the bugfixes and 2) can't really be certain
that any breakage is related to library updates (or worse yet, only
*partial* library updates, not all relevant libraries, because all
relevant libraries don't necessarily have updates available at the same
time), rather than just one of the bugs.

'Loosing its themes' I've never seen (but then again I try to avoid
using KDE as much as possible), but of all the things that KDE might
(and has, in my experience) lose after a full, partial, or deep upgrade,
themes are about the last on my oh, no, I'm now hysterical list. But
that's just me.

 because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember 
 without to much brain work. That is why I am healed from --deep 
 updates

OK. It's your box.

In my opinion, it's impossible to avoid stuff breaking (on a
Gentoo/source-based distro) box; libraries and applications depending on
those libraries are *going* to be mis-matched at some point or another,
sometimes quite often. It's usually temporary, and usually easy to fix:
recompile the app against the  updated library, as I did yesterday for
Beagle, or run name_your_language.updater-- I just found there's an
ocaml-updater script; who knew? or run the config utility for gcc, or
java or whatever is the problem today. Or switch apps, which is a
little-thought-of but often quite effective solution. Helps to be a bit
flexible, though, of course, which everybody does not have the liberty
to be. But if not, then just stick with stable and don't upgrade at all,
--deep or otherwise.

Holly


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Re: [gentoo-user] USB problem(maybe related to udev)

2005-10-22 Thread Jonathan Wright

Tamas Sarga wrote:

I'm affraid, that my system was somehow hybrid udev-devfs system until I
removed devfsd for gentoo-sources-2.6.13.


IIRC, the new udev systems require you to remove the /etc/udev/rules.d 
before upgrading - have you given that a go?


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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I built and rebooted with the vanilla kernel  2.6.14-rc5 and
 started /etc/init.d/alsasound:

 camille ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound start
  * Loading ALSA modules ...
  *   Loading: snd-card-0 ...
 [ ok ] *   Loading: snd-seq-oss ...
 [ ok ] *   Loading: snd-pcm-oss ...
 [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ...
  * No mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card!
 [ ok ]

rm /etc/asound.state and then try rerunning alsamixer? If that doesn't
work then remove it again, re-emerge the following packages, and try
again. I think you must be very close


dragonfly ~ #  emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers
alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware


 camille ~ # emerge -vp alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-tools

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB
 [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.8-r1  +X 0 kB





 alsamixer and amixer still refuse to start.  When I restart 
 /etc/init.d/alsasound it gives me an alsactl error on stopping:

When the Alsa developers update the driver for a card the numbering of
the controls often changes. For this reason any time there is a major
change to the driver you often need to delete the existing
asound.state card and create a new one that matches the driver.

I think you'll get there today. (Long slog...)

- Mark

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[gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread damian bamforth
I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the
full file name is
livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2).

I only have windows xp.

I tried the 'bsdtar' tool, but, whilst it decompresses
the file, it
doesn't leave an iso image which I can then burn.

What do I do?

Thanks
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[gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread damian bamforth
I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the
full file name is
livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2).

I only have windows xp.

I tried the 'bsdtar' tool, but, whilst it decompresses
the file, it
doesn't leave an iso image which I can then burn.

What do I do?

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Sullivan schreef:
 On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 00:53 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 
 On 10/21/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 
 
 
 I'm tellin' ya. alsamixer is jsut a gui for amixer and amixer
  does not work for every Alsa supported card. You need to
 find out from the Alsa folks what is the supported mixer for
 this card.
 
 
 
 
 
 Just an FYI, I also have an intel-hda (in my laptop). Alsamixer
 supports it just fine, except that the stupid card doesn't
 provide a Master Volume control, so you have to adjust the
 speaker volume with the Front control.  Stupid card.
 
 -Richard
 
 
 
 What kernel are you running? Can you give Michael a hint as to 
 how you set it up?
 
 
 
 Kernel version is from suspend2-sources-2.6.13-r5.  I didn't have 
 to do anything special for setup though...it just worked.
 
 I suspect you are correct that it is a driver bug and a newer 
 version of the driver would help.  Michael, sorry I haven't been 
 following this thread closely, but have you tried a .14-rc kernel? 
 I just looked at vanilla-sources-2.6.14-rc5, and there seems to be 
 some significant changes with the newest kernel.
 
 Anyway, some basic information about my setup follows.  I can 
 provide more if desired (particularly /etc/asound.state, 
 ~/.asoundrc, or amixer output).
 
 carcharias linux # lsmod Module  Size  Used by ...
  snd_hda_intel  15872  1 snd_hda_codec  73536  1 
 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm78600  2 
 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer  22212  1 snd_pcm
  snd43192  6 
 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 9056  1 snd
 snd_page_alloc  9800  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm ...
 
 carcharias linux # emerge -vp alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-tools 
 alsa-headers These are the packages that I would merge, in order: 
 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.9  +doc -jack 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a-r1  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.9b  0 kB
 
 carcharias linux # lspci -n ... 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:2668 (rev 04) 
 ...
 
 carcharias linux # lspci -vv ... 00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel 
 Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition 
 Audio Controller (rev 04) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown 
 device 10c3 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- 
 VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF-
  FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- 
 PERR- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size 08 Interrupt: pin A routed to 
 IRQ 16 Region 0: Memory at febf8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) 
 [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Flags: 
 PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA 
 PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 
 DScale=0 PME- Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 
 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Address:   Data:  
 Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0 Device: Supported: 
 MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, ExtTag- Device: Latency L0s 
 64ns, L1 1us Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- 
 Unsupported- Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+ 
 Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes Link: Supported 
 Speed unknown, Width x0, ASPM unknown, Port 0 Link: Latency L0s 
 64ns, L1 1us Link: ASPM Disabled CommClk- ExtSynch- Link: Speed 
 unknown, Width x0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities:
  [130] Unknown (5) ...
 
 -Richard
 
 
 
 I built and rebooted with the vanilla kernel  2.6.14-rc5 and started 
 /etc/init.d/alsasound:
 
 camille ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound start * Loading ALSA modules ... * 
 Loading: snd-card-0 ... [ ok ] *   Loading: snd-seq-oss ... [ ok ] * 
 Loading: snd-pcm-oss ... [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ... * No 
 mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card! [ ok
  ]

OK that works (we know you haven't unmuted your card, and we know (or
are almost sure) that running alsamixer is what creates
/etc/asound.state, so it's no surprise that it's not there.

 I can modprobe snd-hda-intel successfully.
 
 Here is lsmod:
 
 camille ~ # lsmod Module  Size  Used by snd_pcm_oss 
 36256  0 snd_mixer_oss  12224  1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss 
 21280  0 snd_seq_midi_event  2976  1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 30384  4
 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device  4588 2
 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_hda_intel  11328  0 snd_hda_codec 
 58816  1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm49960  3 
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer  14436 
 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd28676  9 
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
  snd_page_alloc  6312  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snip

looks good

 
 camille ~ # 

Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 07:30 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I built and rebooted with the vanilla kernel  2.6.14-rc5 and
  started /etc/init.d/alsasound:
 
  camille ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound start
   * Loading ALSA modules ...
   *   Loading: snd-card-0 ...
  [ ok ] *   Loading: snd-seq-oss ...
  [ ok ] *   Loading: snd-pcm-oss ...
  [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ...
   * No mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card!
  [ ok ]
 
 rm /etc/asound.state and then try rerunning alsamixer? If that doesn't
 work then remove it again, re-emerge the following packages, and try
 again. I think you must be very close
 
 
 dragonfly ~ #  emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers
 alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware
 
 
  camille ~ # emerge -vp alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-tools
 
  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
  Calculating dependencies ...done!
  [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB
  [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.8-r1  +X 0 kB
 
 
 
 
 
  alsamixer and amixer still refuse to start.  When I restart 
  /etc/init.d/alsasound it gives me an alsactl error on stopping:
 
 When the Alsa developers update the driver for a card the numbering of
 the controls often changes. For this reason any time there is a major
 change to the driver you often need to delete the existing
 asound.state card and create a new one that matches the driver.
 
 I think you'll get there today. (Long slog...)
 
 - Mark
 

There is no /etc/asound.state to remove.  There never was.  I haven't
been able to generate one since I've had this computer.  

camille ~ # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers
alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10_rc1  0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB


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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 16:42 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Michael Sullivan schreef:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 00:53 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
  
  Mark Knecht wrote:
  
  
  On 10/21/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  Mark Knecht wrote:
  
  
  
  
  I'm tellin' ya. alsamixer is jsut a gui for amixer and amixer
   does not work for every Alsa supported card. You need to
  find out from the Alsa folks what is the supported mixer for
  this card.
  
  
  
  
  
  Just an FYI, I also have an intel-hda (in my laptop). Alsamixer
  supports it just fine, except that the stupid card doesn't
  provide a Master Volume control, so you have to adjust the
  speaker volume with the Front control.  Stupid card.
  
  -Richard
  
  
  
  What kernel are you running? Can you give Michael a hint as to 
  how you set it up?
  
  
  
  Kernel version is from suspend2-sources-2.6.13-r5.  I didn't have 
  to do anything special for setup though...it just worked.
  
  I suspect you are correct that it is a driver bug and a newer 
  version of the driver would help.  Michael, sorry I haven't been 
  following this thread closely, but have you tried a .14-rc kernel? 
  I just looked at vanilla-sources-2.6.14-rc5, and there seems to be 
  some significant changes with the newest kernel.
  
  Anyway, some basic information about my setup follows.  I can 
  provide more if desired (particularly /etc/asound.state, 
  ~/.asoundrc, or amixer output).
  
  carcharias linux # lsmod Module  Size  Used by ...
   snd_hda_intel  15872  1 snd_hda_codec  73536  1 
  snd_hda_intel snd_pcm78600  2 
  snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer  22212  1 snd_pcm
   snd43192  6 
  snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 9056  1 snd
  snd_page_alloc  9800  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm ...
  
  carcharias linux # emerge -vp alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-tools 
  alsa-headers These are the packages that I would merge, in order: 
  Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.9  +doc -jack 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a-r1  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.9b  0 kB
  
  carcharias linux # lspci -n ... 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:2668 (rev 04) 
  ...
  
  carcharias linux # lspci -vv ... 00:1b.0 Class 0403: Intel 
  Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition 
  Audio Controller (rev 04) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown 
  device 10c3 Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- 
  VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF-
   FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- 
  PERR- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size 08 Interrupt: pin A routed to 
  IRQ 16 Region 0: Memory at febf8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) 
  [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Flags: 
  PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=55mA 
  PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 
  DScale=0 PME- Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: 
  64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Address:   Data:  
  Capabilities: [70] Express Unknown type IRQ 0 Device: Supported: 
  MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, ExtTag- Device: Latency L0s 
  64ns, L1 1us Device: Errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- 
  Unsupported- Device: RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+ 
  Device: MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes Link: Supported 
  Speed unknown, Width x0, ASPM unknown, Port 0 Link: Latency L0s 
  64ns, L1 1us Link: ASPM Disabled CommClk- ExtSynch- Link: Speed 
  unknown, Width x0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities:
   [130] Unknown (5) ...
  
  -Richard
  
  
  
  I built and rebooted with the vanilla kernel  2.6.14-rc5 and started 
  /etc/init.d/alsasound:
  
  camille ~ # /etc/init.d/alsasound start * Loading ALSA modules ... * 
  Loading: snd-card-0 ... [ ok ] *   Loading: snd-seq-oss ... [ ok ] * 
  Loading: snd-pcm-oss ... [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ... * No 
  mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card! [ ok
   ]
 
 OK that works (we know you haven't unmuted your card, and we know (or
 are almost sure) that running alsamixer is what creates
 /etc/asound.state, so it's no surprise that it's not there.
 
  I can modprobe snd-hda-intel successfully.
  
  Here is lsmod:
  
  camille ~ # lsmod Module  Size  Used by snd_pcm_oss 
  36256  0 snd_mixer_oss  12224  1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss 
  21280  0 snd_seq_midi_event  2976  1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq 30384  4
  snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device  4588 2
  snd_seq_oss,snd_seq snd_hda_intel  11328  0 snd_hda_codec 
  58816  1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm49960  3 
  snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer  14436 
  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd28676  9 
  

Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 15:37 +0100, damian bamforth wrote:
 I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the
 full file name is
 livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2).
 
 I only have windows xp.
 
 I tried the 'bsdtar' tool, but, whilst it decompresses
 the file, it
 doesn't leave an iso image which I can then burn.
 
 What do I do?
 
 Thanks
Hi,
IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to uncompress .bz2 compressed files.
Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools or something similar).
HTH.Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Sullivan schreef:
 camille ~ # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers 
 alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10_rc1  0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
 media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB



From www.alsa-project.org:

Latest Software Releases
Package

* Driver
* Library
* Lib-plugins
* Utilities
* Tools
* Firmware
* OSS Compat. Library

Stable release

* 1.0.9b
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9a
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9

Development release

* 1.0.10rc2
* 1.0.10rc2
* 1.0.10rc1
* 1.0.10rc2
* 1.0.10rc2
* ---
* 1.0.10rc2

So there is an alsa-tools devel release higher than what you've got, as
well as a firmware devel-release.

It's possible that part of the issue is the version mismatch you've got
happening (for example, the devel release of alsa-tools might well
understand how the hda-intel cards work, whereas 1.0.9 does not).

I would consider copying the alsa-firmware and alsa-tools ebuilds to
your overlay, updating them to 1.0.10rc2, and seeing if they will then
upgrade, and if so, whether that helps.

Just an idea.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Holly Bostick
Rumen Yotov schreef:
 On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 15:37 +0100, damian bamforth wrote:
 
 I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the full file
 name is livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2).
 
 I only have windows xp.
 
 I tried the 'bsdtar' tool, but, whilst it decompresses the file, it
  doesn't leave an iso image which I can then burn.
 
 What do I do?
 
 Thanks
 
 Hi, IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to uncompress .bz2 compressed
 files. Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools or something
 similar). HTH.Rumen

WinRAR will do it as well. It can also look in the .iso after
extraction, if that would be useful (*.iso is a compression format as well)

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no /etc/asound.state to remove.  There never was.  I haven't
 been able to generate one since I've had this computer.

Yeah, with alsamixer not working for you there isn't a way to get it configured.

What happens if you just run aplay?

slocate *.wav and pick one, then aplaye somefile.wav

I wonder if the card is truly muted at this point?

On other thing. Your card is rev. 3

Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition
Audio Controller (rev 03)

Richard's card is rev 4:

 Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition
Audio Controller (rev 04)

Possibly the Alsa developers haven't seen your revision and hence
somethign is a bit different? That sort of thing could easily cause a
problem if the differences are very significant. I think Richard said
his was in a laptop. I have been assumign yours is in a desktop. This
means (probably) that you are using different chipsets.

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 17:04 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 Michael Sullivan schreef:
  camille ~ # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers 
  alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware
  
  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10_rc1  0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ] 
  media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB
 
 
 
 From www.alsa-project.org:
 
 Latest Software Releases
 Package
 
 * Driver
 * Library
 * Lib-plugins
 * Utilities
 * Tools
 * Firmware
 * OSS Compat. Library
 
 Stable release
 
 * 1.0.9b
 * 1.0.9
 * 1.0.9
 * 1.0.9a
 * 1.0.9
 * 1.0.9
 * 1.0.9
 
 Development release
 
 * 1.0.10rc2
 * 1.0.10rc2
 * 1.0.10rc1
 * 1.0.10rc2
 * 1.0.10rc2
 * ---
 * 1.0.10rc2
 
 So there is an alsa-tools devel release higher than what you've got, as
 well as a firmware devel-release.
 
 It's possible that part of the issue is the version mismatch you've got
 happening (for example, the devel release of alsa-tools might well
 understand how the hda-intel cards work, whereas 1.0.9 does not).
 
 I would consider copying the alsa-firmware and alsa-tools ebuilds to
 your overlay, updating them to 1.0.10rc2, and seeing if they will then
 upgrade, and if so, whether that helps.
 
 Just an idea.
 
 Holly

Are there ebuilds for alsa-firmware-1.0.10-rc2 and
alsa-tools-1.0.10.rc2???  I looked in portage (I sync every night at
midnight) and I didn't see them...

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[gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread damian bamforth
On Sat, 2005-10-22 14:59:02, Rumen Yotov wrote:
IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to uncompress
.bz2 compressed files.
Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools or
something similar).

I have managed to decompress the file with 'bsdtar',
however, this does not result in an 'iso' but actually
turns the livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2 into all the files
that would make up the livecd64-ahorn5.iso, so I do
end up with all the files, but not an image I can burn
onto a cd. 

I can not boot my new pc without a bootable cd as it
doesn't have an operating system on yet.

Thanks,
Damian
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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There is no /etc/asound.state to remove.  There never was.  I haven't
  been able to generate one since I've had this computer.
 
 Yeah, with alsamixer not working for you there isn't a way to get it 
 configured.
 
 What happens if you just run aplay?
 
 slocate *.wav and pick one, then aplaye somefile.wav
 
 I wonder if the card is truly muted at this point?

camille sounds # aplay KDE_Desktop5.wav
Playing WAVE 'KDE_Desktop5.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate
22050 Hz, Mono

I turned my speakers all the way up before I issued the command, but no
sound came out.  Just the usual tiny bit of static I hear when I turn
the speaker up all the way.

Also, when I log into GNOME I get this stupid error message box saying
that no volume control was available or something like that.  Holly
Bostick said something about GNOME's included sound server might be
interfering with ALSA.  Is there a way I can check for that, and if I
find it, turn it off so it's not interfering?
 
 On other thing. Your card is rev. 3
 
 Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition
 Audio Controller (rev 03)
 
 Richard's card is rev 4:
 
  Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition
 Audio Controller (rev 04)
 
 Possibly the Alsa developers haven't seen your revision and hence
 somethign is a bit different? That sort of thing could easily cause a
 problem if the differences are very significant. I think Richard said
 his was in a laptop. I have been assumign yours is in a desktop. This
 means (probably) that you are using different chipsets.

Yes, mine is a desktop.
 
 - Mark
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 17:04 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
  Michael Sullivan schreef:
   camille ~ # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers
   alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware
  
   These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
  
   Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ]
   media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
   media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
   media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
   media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
   media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10_rc1  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
   media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
   media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB
 
 
 
  From www.alsa-project.org:
 
  Latest Software Releases
  Package
 
  * Driver
  * Library
  * Lib-plugins
  * Utilities
  * Tools
  * Firmware
  * OSS Compat. Library
 
  Stable release
 
  * 1.0.9b
  * 1.0.9
  * 1.0.9
  * 1.0.9a
  * 1.0.9
  * 1.0.9
  * 1.0.9
 
  Development release
 
  * 1.0.10rc2
  * 1.0.10rc2
  * 1.0.10rc1
  * 1.0.10rc2
  * 1.0.10rc2
  * ---
  * 1.0.10rc2
 
  So there is an alsa-tools devel release higher than what you've got, as
  well as a firmware devel-release.
 
  It's possible that part of the issue is the version mismatch you've got
  happening (for example, the devel release of alsa-tools might well
  understand how the hda-intel cards work, whereas 1.0.9 does not).
 
  I would consider copying the alsa-firmware and alsa-tools ebuilds to
  your overlay, updating them to 1.0.10rc2, and seeing if they will then
  upgrade, and if so, whether that helps.
 
  Just an idea.
 
  Holly

 Are there ebuilds for alsa-firmware-1.0.10-rc2 and
 alsa-tools-1.0.10.rc2???  I looked in portage (I sync every night at
 midnight) and I didn't see them...

I believe that alsa-firmware is only supporting the HDSP devices
(Digiface and Multiface) that need to have firmware loaded into them
before they will operate. My HDSP 9652 doesn't need it since the
firmware is on the card.

I find it doubtful that this will fix your problem, but it doesn't hurt to try.

Did you do the aplay experiment?

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:27 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 17:04 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
   Michael Sullivan schreef:
camille ~ # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers
alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware
   
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
   
Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10_rc1  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB
  
  
  
   From www.alsa-project.org:
  
   Latest Software Releases
   Package
  
   * Driver
   * Library
   * Lib-plugins
   * Utilities
   * Tools
   * Firmware
   * OSS Compat. Library
  
   Stable release
  
   * 1.0.9b
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9a
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9
  
   Development release
  
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * 1.0.10rc1
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * ---
   * 1.0.10rc2
  
   So there is an alsa-tools devel release higher than what you've got, as
   well as a firmware devel-release.
  
   It's possible that part of the issue is the version mismatch you've got
   happening (for example, the devel release of alsa-tools might well
   understand how the hda-intel cards work, whereas 1.0.9 does not).
  
   I would consider copying the alsa-firmware and alsa-tools ebuilds to
   your overlay, updating them to 1.0.10rc2, and seeing if they will then
   upgrade, and if so, whether that helps.
  
   Just an idea.
  
   Holly
 
  Are there ebuilds for alsa-firmware-1.0.10-rc2 and
  alsa-tools-1.0.10.rc2???  I looked in portage (I sync every night at
  midnight) and I didn't see them...
 
 I believe that alsa-firmware is only supporting the HDSP devices
 (Digiface and Multiface) that need to have firmware loaded into them
 before they will operate. My HDSP 9652 doesn't need it since the
 firmware is on the card.
 
 I find it doubtful that this will fix your problem, but it doesn't hurt to 
 try.
 
 Did you do the aplay experiment?

Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.
 
 - Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 17:04 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
   Michael Sullivan schreef:
camille ~ # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers
alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware
   
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
   
Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10_rc1  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB
  
  
  
   From www.alsa-project.org:
  
   Latest Software Releases
   Package
  
   * Driver
   * Library
   * Lib-plugins
   * Utilities
   * Tools
   * Firmware
   * OSS Compat. Library
  
   Stable release
  
   * 1.0.9b
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9a
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9
   * 1.0.9
  
   Development release
  
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * 1.0.10rc1
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * 1.0.10rc2
   * ---
   * 1.0.10rc2
  
   So there is an alsa-tools devel release higher than what you've got, as
   well as a firmware devel-release.
  
   It's possible that part of the issue is the version mismatch you've got
   happening (for example, the devel release of alsa-tools might well
   understand how the hda-intel cards work, whereas 1.0.9 does not).
  
   I would consider copying the alsa-firmware and alsa-tools ebuilds to
   your overlay, updating them to 1.0.10rc2, and seeing if they will then
   upgrade, and if so, whether that helps.
  
   Just an idea.
  
   Holly
 
  Are there ebuilds for alsa-firmware-1.0.10-rc2 and
  alsa-tools-1.0.10.rc2???  I looked in portage (I sync every night at
  midnight) and I didn't see them...

 I believe that alsa-firmware is only supporting the HDSP devices
 (Digiface and Multiface) that need to have firmware loaded into them
 before they will operate. My HDSP 9652 doesn't need it since the
 firmware is on the card.

 I find it doubtful that this will fix your problem, but it doesn't hurt to 
 try.

 Did you do the aplay experiment?

 - Mark


Please spend some time looking at the Alsa bug report system. There
are a number of folks having similar problems. There are currently
25-30 bugs reported for this device. Maybe 25% of them have been for
no sound or alsamixer problems. A couple have solutions. It seems that
most are waiting attention.

If you think your problem matches one of theirs then add your info to
the bug report. If you think it's different than all the ones filed
then file a new one.

One interesting report said alsamixer failed exactly like it does for
you but he managed to get sound using ogg123. Maybe you can try that.

https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=1316

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Holly Bostick
damian bamforth schreef:
 On Sat, 2005-10-22 14:59:02, Rumen Yotov wrote:
 
 IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to uncompress
 
 .bz2 compressed files.
 
 Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools or something 
 similar).
 
 
 I have managed to decompress the file with 'bsdtar', however, this 
 does not result in an 'iso' but actually turns the 
 livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2 into all the files that would make up the 
 livecd64-ahorn5.iso, so I do end up with all the files, but not an 
 image I can burn onto a cd.

Perhaps the file you're using has been deliberately misnamed. Or,
perhaps bsdtar is not as useful a program as it would seem at first glance.

If you remove the *.bz2 extension, leaving the filename as just *.iso,
can it then be burned as an ISO in your CD burning software?

In any case I would check the file with WinRAR or 7zip (or even Total
Commander) to confirm that it really is a bzipped iso, and not just an
ISO that has been renamed to iso.bz2

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   There is no /etc/asound.state to remove.  There never was.  I haven't
   been able to generate one since I've had this computer.
 
  Yeah, with alsamixer not working for you there isn't a way to get it 
  configured.
 
  What happens if you just run aplay?
 
  slocate *.wav and pick one, then aplaye somefile.wav
 
  I wonder if the card is truly muted at this point?

 camille sounds # aplay KDE_Desktop5.wav
 Playing WAVE 'KDE_Desktop5.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate
 22050 Hz, Mono

 I turned my speakers all the way up before I issued the command, but no
 sound came out.  Just the usual tiny bit of static I hear when I turn
 the speaker up all the way.

 Also, when I log into GNOME I get this stupid error message box saying
 that no volume control was available or something like that.  Holly
 Bostick said something about GNOME's included sound server might be
 interfering with ALSA.  Is there a way I can check for that, and if I
 find it, turn it off so it's not interfering?

ps aux and look for sound stuff. I think it's called esound or esd.
Something like that. You can kill it or probably stop it nicely using
Gnome's configuration utilities.

 
  On other thing. Your card is rev. 3
 
  Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition
  Audio Controller (rev 03)
 
  Richard's card is rev 4:
 
   Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition
  Audio Controller (rev 04)
 
  Possibly the Alsa developers haven't seen your revision and hence
  somethign is a bit different? That sort of thing could easily cause a
  problem if the differences are very significant. I think Richard said
  his was in a laptop. I have been assumign yours is in a desktop. This
  means (probably) that you are using different chipsets.

 Yes, mine is a desktop.

It's a new card and support is probably touchy. I will not tell you
(right now) how long I had to wait to get support for my HDSP 9652 as
you might draw conclusions that would make you cry, and I don't think
it will happen to you. ;-) Maybe after you get yours working. ;-)

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB

This is the newest firmware package BTW.

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:38 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 17:04 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
Michael Sullivan schreef:
 camille ~ # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-headers
 alsa-jack alsa-oss alsa-firmware

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild   R   ]
 media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.9  +X 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
 media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.10_rc2  +nls 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
 media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.10_rc2  +doc +jack* 0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
 media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
 media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.10_rc1  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
 media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.10_rc2  0 kB [ebuild   R   ]
 media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.9  0 kB
   
   
   
From www.alsa-project.org:
   
Latest Software Releases
Package
   
* Driver
* Library
* Lib-plugins
* Utilities
* Tools
* Firmware
* OSS Compat. Library
   
Stable release
   
* 1.0.9b
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9a
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9
* 1.0.9
   
Development release
   
* 1.0.10rc2
* 1.0.10rc2
* 1.0.10rc1
* 1.0.10rc2
* 1.0.10rc2
* ---
* 1.0.10rc2
   
So there is an alsa-tools devel release higher than what you've got, as
well as a firmware devel-release.
   
It's possible that part of the issue is the version mismatch you've got
happening (for example, the devel release of alsa-tools might well
understand how the hda-intel cards work, whereas 1.0.9 does not).
   
I would consider copying the alsa-firmware and alsa-tools ebuilds to
your overlay, updating them to 1.0.10rc2, and seeing if they will then
upgrade, and if so, whether that helps.
   
Just an idea.
   
Holly
  
   Are there ebuilds for alsa-firmware-1.0.10-rc2 and
   alsa-tools-1.0.10.rc2???  I looked in portage (I sync every night at
   midnight) and I didn't see them...
 
  I believe that alsa-firmware is only supporting the HDSP devices
  (Digiface and Multiface) that need to have firmware loaded into them
  before they will operate. My HDSP 9652 doesn't need it since the
  firmware is on the card.
 
  I find it doubtful that this will fix your problem, but it doesn't hurt to 
  try.
 
  Did you do the aplay experiment?
 
  - Mark
 
 
 Please spend some time looking at the Alsa bug report system. There
 are a number of folks having similar problems. There are currently
 25-30 bugs reported for this device. Maybe 25% of them have been for
 no sound or alsamixer problems. A couple have solutions. It seems that
 most are waiting attention.
 
 If you think your problem matches one of theirs then add your info to
 the bug report. If you think it's different than all the ones filed
 then file a new one.
 
 One interesting report said alsamixer failed exactly like it does for
 you but he managed to get sound using ogg123. Maybe you can try that.
 
 https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=1316
 
 - Mark
 

camille sounds # ogg123 KDE_Pop.ogg

Audio Device:   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) output

Playing: KDE_Pop.ogg
Ogg Vorbis stream: 1 channel, 44100 Hz

Done.
camille sounds # ogg123 KDE_Desktop1.wav

Audio Device:   Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) output

Error opening KDE_Desktop1.wav using the oggvorbis module.  The file may
be corrupted.


I'll take a look at the ALSA site.  The above ogg file played (at least
the screen output said it did), but there was no sound from the
speakers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
 often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
 supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
 sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
 on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
 running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.

I'm really hesitant to mention this one, but others have done it and
so have I oncce or twice. Are you sure you have the speakers plugged
into the right output from the motherboard? Normally it's the green
one in the middle.

Also, there was a time when the Intel 810 was senting output out on
some other plug on a couple of machines. Try the headphone output plug
as well as the speaker output plug.

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying Plugin pop-up, Firefox and Epiphany

2005-10-22 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 09:39:18AM +1300, Dave Cameron wrote
 Hi All,
 
 I'm running Gentoo on a SunBlade 100 SPARC machine, and so can't
 install Sun Java or Macromedia crap. Does anyone know how/if you
 can disable the plugin popup on Epiphany and Firefox, it's really
 frustrating to have these constant nags, especially(sic)  since I
 can't install these binary-only plugins, both because of my social
 conscience, and because of my platform, I would much appreciate it
 if someone knew.

  It's a two-step process...

  1) Plugins used to be stored in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins.  That's
now being deprecated in favour of /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins.  For
the time being, assume that both directories are valid.  Anyhow, go into
those directories and rename or remove libnullplugin.so.  When Firefox
tries to load a plugin, and can't find it, it defaults to libnullplugin.so
which generates the plugin popup.  Removing libnullplugin.so gets rid of
the plugin popup.

  2) If you do just that, Firefox will then display a little strip
across the top, in place of the plugin popup, telling you that you're
missing a required plugin, and the page may not display as intended...
blah...blah...blah.  It's slightly less annoying, but annoying
nevertheless.  To get rid of that, go into about:config and change
plugin.default_plugin_disabled to false.

  You'll have to repeat step 1 each time you update Firefox or Mozilla
or whatever browser.  I don't remember if I had to reset about:config
after updating.

 On the lines of Java, why doesn't sun make Java for Linux on Sun?

  Because Sun is at war with linux, just like Microsoft is at war with
linux.  Sun Java for linux fits in with their plans about as much as
MS-Office-for-linux fits in with Microsoft's plans.  Sun wants to sell
expensive Sparc machines running expensive Solaris.  Cheap commodity
machines running free linux are eating their market alive, even moreso
than MS' market.  It's *MUCH* easier to transition from a unix-based
Solaris to a unix-like linux than from Windows to linux.

 and what is the best Free-Software JVM.

  http://www.blackdown.org calls itself The home of Java on Linux!.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
thank you all guys !!!
I understand now the complex resons to always have backups and test servers 
I am sorry to make such a mess at the list, it wasn´t my intantion,
thank one more time for the attention that was spend on my trouble. I
promise that in the next time I will make some more relevant posts.


On 10/22/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin schreef:
  direct experience. I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times
  or KDE loosing its themes,

 Yeah, but mplayer breaks if your breathe on it too hard, and Xine is not
 all that much better (though better than gstreamer, and overall the best
 in terms of stability).

 New releases of KDE often are so buggy that you 1) *have* to upgrade
 whatever is available to get the bugfixes and 2) can't really be certain
 that any breakage is related to library updates (or worse yet, only
 *partial* library updates, not all relevant libraries, because all
 relevant libraries don't necessarily have updates available at the same
 time), rather than just one of the bugs.

 'Loosing its themes' I've never seen (but then again I try to avoid
 using KDE as much as possible), but of all the things that KDE might
 (and has, in my experience) lose after a full, partial, or deep upgrade,
 themes are about the last on my oh, no, I'm now hysterical list. But
 that's just me.

  because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember
  without to much brain work. That is why I am healed from --deep
  updates

 OK. It's your box.

 In my opinion, it's impossible to avoid stuff breaking (on a
 Gentoo/source-based distro) box; libraries and applications depending on
 those libraries are *going* to be mis-matched at some point or another,
 sometimes quite often. It's usually temporary, and usually easy to fix:
 recompile the app against the  updated library, as I did yesterday for
 Beagle, or run name_your_language.updater-- I just found there's an
 ocaml-updater script; who knew? or run the config utility for gcc, or
 java or whatever is the problem today. Or switch apps, which is a
 little-thought-of but often quite effective solution. Helps to be a bit
 flexible, though, of course, which everybody does not have the liberty
 to be. But if not, then just stick with stable and don't upgrade at all,
 --deep or otherwise.

 Holly


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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
  often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
  supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
  sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
  on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
  running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.
 
 I'm really hesitant to mention this one, but others have done it and
 so have I oncce or twice. Are you sure you have the speakers plugged
 into the right output from the motherboard? Normally it's the green
 one in the middle.
 
 Also, there was a time when the Intel 810 was senting output out on
 some other plug on a couple of machines. Try the headphone output plug
 as well as the speaker output plug.
 
 - Mark
 

I have my speakers plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the
case.  That's the only way I could get sound out of them in Windows XP.


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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 17:39 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
 damian bamforth schreef:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 14:59:02, Rumen Yotov wrote:
  
  IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to uncompress
  
  .bz2 compressed files.
  
  Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools or something 
  similar).
  
  
  I have managed to decompress the file with 'bsdtar', however, this 
  does not result in an 'iso' but actually turns the 
  livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2 into all the files that would make up the 
  livecd64-ahorn5.iso, so I do end up with all the files, but not an 
  image I can burn onto a cd.
 
 Perhaps the file you're using has been deliberately misnamed. Or,
 perhaps bsdtar is not as useful a program as it would seem at first glance.
 
 If you remove the *.bz2 extension, leaving the filename as just *.iso,
 can it then be burned as an ISO in your CD burning software?
 
 In any case I would check the file with WinRAR or 7zip (or even Total
 Commander) to confirm that it really is a bzipped iso, and not just an
 ISO that has been renamed to iso.bz2
 
 Holly
Hi,
Use 'file' to check for file's type, e.g. file filename.ext.
Using unzip+bz2+windows on Google returns many more but also this one
with nearly 20 zip/unzip Win progs:
http://www.nonags.com/nonags/ziputil.html
HTH.Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 14:01 -0200, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 thank you all guys !!!
 I understand now the complex resons to always have backups and test servers 
 
 I am sorry to make such a mess at the list, it wasn´t my intantion,
 thank one more time for the attention that was spend on my trouble. I
 promise that in the next time I will make some more relevant posts.
 
Hi,
A little OT here but i as am playing with Xen (virtualisation software),
think it might be used for testing before big upgrades are done
(specially on servers/important machines).
PS: no need for second machine, just another partition with the same
software incl. versions (a thought here: why not use rsync to update
this partition instead of again emerging the packages).
And please don't top-post, unofficial rule.
HTH.Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:37:27 +0100 (BST)
damian bamforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the
 full file name is
 livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2).
 
 I only have windows xp.
 

Download Puppy Linux, burn a cd, boot it up.  You also have the option
of installing it as a file on your WinXP disk and dual booting.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread damian bamforth

--- Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 damian bamforth schreef:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 14:59:02, Rumen Yotov wrote:
  
  IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to
 uncompress
  
  .bz2 compressed files.
  
  Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools
 or something 
  similar).
  
  
  I have managed to decompress the file with
 'bsdtar', however, this 
  does not result in an 'iso' but actually turns the
 
  livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2 into all the files that
 would make up the 
  livecd64-ahorn5.iso, so I do end up with all the
 files, but not an 
  image I can burn onto a cd.
 
 Perhaps the file you're using has been deliberately
 misnamed. Or,
 perhaps bsdtar is not as useful a program as it
 would seem at first glance.
 
 If you remove the *.bz2 extension, leaving the
 filename as just *.iso,
 can it then be burned as an ISO in your CD burning
 software?
 
 In any case I would check the file with WinRAR or
 7zip (or even Total
 Commander) to confirm that it really is a bzipped
 iso, and not just an
 ISO that has been renamed to iso.bz2
 
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Ahhh... 7zip found the iso, and extracting it.
This issue is now resolved. 

Thanks,
Damian
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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread damian bamforth

--- Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 damian bamforth schreef:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 14:59:02, Rumen Yotov wrote:
  
  IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to
 uncompress
  
  .bz2 compressed files.
  
  Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools
 or something 
  similar).
  
  
  I have managed to decompress the file with
 'bsdtar', however, this 
  does not result in an 'iso' but actually turns the
 
  livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2 into all the files that
 would make up the 
  livecd64-ahorn5.iso, so I do end up with all the
 files, but not an 
  image I can burn onto a cd.
 
 Perhaps the file you're using has been deliberately
 misnamed. Or,
 perhaps bsdtar is not as useful a program as it
 would seem at first glance.
 
 If you remove the *.bz2 extension, leaving the
 filename as just *.iso,
 can it then be burned as an ISO in your CD burning
 software?
 
 In any case I would check the file with WinRAR or
 7zip (or even Total
 Commander) to confirm that it really is a bzipped
 iso, and not just an
 ISO that has been renamed to iso.bz2
 
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Ahhh... 7zip found the iso, and extracting it.
This issue is now resolved. 

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] using g++ instead of gcc to build abiword

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Persson
Oops.  I meant to refer to releases 2.2.11 and 2.4.1.

On October 21, 2005 08:14 pm Robert Persson was like:
 I just did CC=g++ and I now get a different error, both with 1.2.11 and
 1.4.1, namely:

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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Matt Randolph

damian bamforth wrote:


I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the
full file name is
livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2).

I only have windows xp.

I tried the 'bsdtar' tool, but, whilst it decompresses
the file, it
doesn't leave an iso image which I can then burn.

What do I do?

Thanks
 



IMHO, the proper way to do what you need to do is with GNU tools.

Go to http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and download the GNU Unix tools 
for Windows.


Use bunzip2.exe to decompress the archive.  If you know the md5sum, you 
can also use md5sum.exe to check your archive too.  There is no file.exe 
however, so I don't know how you can determine what kind of file it is 
that you end up with.  If you need help using the tools, there is a 
man.exe, but there aren't any pages for it to read.  Instead, use the 
--help switch to get an idea of how to use each tool.


IIRC Service Pack 2 provides TAB-autocompletion for Windows XP.  If you 
have that and if you throw all those tools into your path, it'll be the 
next best thing to being at a real computer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Matt Randolph

damian bamforth wrote:


--- Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


damian bamforth schreef:
   


On Sat, 2005-10-22 14:59:02, Rumen Yotov wrote:

 


IIRC you can use 7zip for Windows to
   


uncompress

.bz2 compressed files.

 


Or search for bzip2 for Windows (was win tools
   

or something 
   


similar).
   


I have managed to decompress the file with
 

'bsdtar', however, this 
   


does not result in an 'iso' but actually turns the
 


livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2 into all the files that
 

would make up the 
   


livecd64-ahorn5.iso, so I do end up with all the
 

files, but not an 
   


image I can burn onto a cd.
 


Perhaps the file you're using has been deliberately
misnamed. Or,
perhaps bsdtar is not as useful a program as it
would seem at first glance.

If you remove the *.bz2 extension, leaving the
filename as just *.iso,
can it then be burned as an ISO in your CD burning
software?

In any case I would check the file with WinRAR or
7zip (or even Total
Commander) to confirm that it really is a bzipped
iso, and not just an
ISO that has been renamed to iso.bz2

Holly
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Ahhh... 7zip found the iso, and extracting it.
This issue is now resolved. 


Thanks,
Damian
 



Have lunch mid-post and it turns out the problem is solved before you 
click send.  Oops!  The GNU tools are still good to have on any Windows 
box, though.  Glad to see your problem is resolved.  Now if you can just 
fix the double posting problem.  ;-)


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[gentoo-user] [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 (is blocking net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30)

2005-10-22 Thread henkg
Hello,

I get the message from the subject when trying to emerge -pu world.

This is on a standard system, that is only mythtv related lines in 
package.keywords.

I tried to unmerge cmd5checkpw, but that doesn't help, because emerge 
-pu world immediately wants to merge the package again, with the same 
blocker.

unmergin qmail doesn't seem like an option to me.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Henk,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying Plugin pop-up, Firefox and Epiphany

2005-10-22 Thread brullo nulla
 On the lines of Java, why doesn't sun make Java for Linux on Sun?Because Sun is at war with linux, just like Microsoft is at war with
linux.Sun Java for linux fits in with their plans about as much asMS-Office-for-linux fits in with Microsoft's plans.Sun wants to sellexpensive Sparc machines running expensive Solaris.Cheap commodity
machines running free linux are eating their market alive, even moresothan MS' market.It's *MUCH* easier to transition from a unix-basedSolaris to a unix-like linux than from Windows to linux.

This explanation doesn't fit with the fact Sun offers a free (beer) JVM for Linux on x86. 

It would fit more if Sun offers JVM for Linux on SPARC... at least you would buy Sun hardware.

I think Linux/SPARC, just like Linux/PPC, is simply a too little niche worth the effort.

m.


Re: [gentoo-user] using g++ instead of gcc to build abiword - more weirdness

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Persson
I just tried to re-emerge abiword-2.2.10, the ebuild of which obviously worked 
successfully last time I emerged it, but this time it fails for the same 
reason that 2.2.11 and my hand-rolled 2.4.1 keep failing, namely:

undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'

when I emerge =abiword-2.x.x and

cdump.c: In function `int main(int, char**)':
cdump.c:99: error: invalid conversion from `void*' to `unsigned char*'

when I CC=g++ emerge =abiword-2.x.x.

I haven't changed anything recently except for what gets done automatically 
when I emerge -u world (and then accept most of the config file changes 
offered by etc-update).

Any ideas?

Thanks
Robert

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Re: [gentoo-user] [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 (is blocking net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30)

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Shields
Try emerge -pvu world (verbose option). It should tell you a bit more information.On 10/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,I get the message from the subject when trying to emerge -pu world.This is on a standard system, that is only mythtv related lines inpackage.keywords.I tried to unmerge cmd5checkpw, but that doesn't help, because emerge
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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Matt Randolph

Michael Sullivan wrote:


On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 


On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   


Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.
 


I'm really hesitant to mention this one, but others have done it and
so have I oncce or twice. Are you sure you have the speakers plugged
into the right output from the motherboard? Normally it's the green
one in the middle.

Also, there was a time when the Intel 810 was senting output out on
some other plug on a couple of machines. Try the headphone output plug
as well as the speaker output plug.

- Mark

   



I have my speakers plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the
case.  That's the only way I could get sound out of them in Windows XP.


 

The headphone jack on the front of the case?  First of all, make sure 
that this is not the headphone jack on the front of the CD-ROM drive.  
If this is actually just an alternate front panel jack you should still 
try using the standard jack on the rear of the machine.  What if there 
was something wrong with the front panel lead or jacks?  If you couldn't 
get sound out of your machine under Windows through the regular 
speaker-out or line-out jacks, and you could only get sound out of this 
front panel connector, then either you have a serious hardware problem 
with the card or you installed the front panel lead improperly.  On my 
newer machines, the front panel lead connects to the appropriate pins on 
the motherboard not once, but twice.  The second connection serves as a 
jumper to enable the front panel connectors to work as well as the rear 
panel connectors.  Check your motherboard manual to be sure that you 
have things wired up correctly.  It sounds like you don't.  If 
everything IS wired up correctly and both problems still persist (the 
Windows one and the ALSA one), then I'd urge you to run out and buy a 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Stealth Ethernet testing

2005-10-22 Thread James
Hans-Werner Hilse hilse at web.de writes:

 
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:19:15 + (UTC)
 James wireless at tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 
  Well, after much ado, it seems quite easy (trivial) to hide 
 an ethernet  interface, while being able to collect reems 
 of local ethernet traffic based data, from both snort and ethereal.

 Yep, it's up and doesn't have an IP. If this is sufficient for you,
 fine then.

Well, let me see how much *quieter* I can make the interface. I do
need to make the ethernet interface 100% undetectable.

  On any system, 'ping 0.0.0.0' receives responses from the local
  interface.
 
 No, if you specify an interface for those packets, it most probably
 won't receive anything. But that's nitpicking here...

Hmm you should try this and ping your local ip (before setting it
to 0.0.0.0). It has to be the local host, as the latencies for any
other hosts on the switch/hub are almost an order of magnitude
higher. Futhermore, you can disconnect any system from it's ethernet
cable, and 'ping 0.0.0.0' is the same thing and 'ping localhost'
and 'ping 127.0.0.1', while the interface is disconnected.

snort -dvi eth0   still runs great and the eth seems undetectable


  What I need is for folks to test and verify that an ethernet 
  interface setup this way, is indeed invisible (undetectable)
  by other systems.

 It surely isn't. It's up, listening at least to broadcasts and
 multicasts (well, it's written uppercase in the ipconfig output).

Hmm,  none of the commands I tried with arp, arping or hping
discovered the passive ethernet interface configured to 0.0.0.0
on the same flat hub

However, there is one thing I should point out. NONE of the
systems have any entry in the their hostname file except their
own name, nor is DNS  running on this test network. 
Only IP addresses, ethernet with MACs and not networked services 
so the arp tables are empty intil explicit communications occur. 
No NFS, no samba; natta.

It's a test network for machines and everything is
minimize. ON the gentoo systems there is no domain name,
they only query DNS servers as needed (if the machines
only access another machine via IP, then DNS resolution
is not necessary, and network chatter has been minimized.


So if you have syntax that will discover any of the 'listen
only interfaces' please send me a specific example. Nothing
I have tried with ping, arping, arp, arpscan, arpwatch,or hping*
discovers these ethernet interfaces. I'm not saying they are 
100% stealth, but, I have not found a method to discover the 
interfaces, for this, minimize network. Even the gentoo 
system configured to 0.0.0.0 is not discoverable, as of yet.

  If you find this is not true, please tell me what you did and 
  what tool/syntax you used to discover/detect a system with an
  ethernet interface set up this way

 emerge hping2, emerge arping. And then play a little bit. Note that
 ethernet frames don't rely on IPs to get to their targets. In the above
 described situation, I would try to send a bunch of different ethernet
 frames to that machine and see what happenes. If I were you, I would
 dedicate another machine for the testing stage that sniffs if the
 machine answers anything. ping isn't really the tool of choice here.

yes, as you have suggested, but the steath systems 
(ifconfig eth0 inet 0.0.0.0) are still not discoverable. If you disagree
(and hopefully you do) please send me explicit syntax.

 If you really don't want to chose a hardware based solution and go the
 software way, you should carefully inspect /proc/sys/net/... and have a
 read in linux docs how to chose sysctls for not letting linux itself
 spit out packages.

OK, after I fully explore the possibilities with the aforementioned
tools, I'll look into this. A systmems ability to resist responses 
(icmp, mac scans, etc) is really quite facinating and I'm sure also 
related to kernel configuration and low level ethernet drivers.

 But using this way, it is scientifically impossible (well, nearly) to
 100% negate the theory that a package might get through. I really
 recommend the already mentioned way, cutting the Tx wires. After all,
 this is simple and you can be sure that you didn't forget anything.

Agreed. However, before I build a custom piece of hardware/cable that
open-circuits the transmit line from the desire stealth interface,
I need to fully characterize things available in software, and from which
tools these software/config tricks hid interfaces. Open-circuiting 
the stealth interface is not always an option, so fully characterizing
the efforts to minimize responses of the pseudo-stealth interface,
via configs, software, kernel and low level drivers, will go a long
way to approaching stealth behavior of an ethernet interaface. If 
only a few tools/hacks can discover the existence, then I can make
prepartions in the firewall and other upstream routing/interfaces
so as to prevent or alert such machinations.


Send me some explicit syntax scans 

Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 15:03 -0400, Matt Randolph wrote:
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
   
 
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
 often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
 supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
 sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
 on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
 running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.
   
 
 I'm really hesitant to mention this one, but others have done it and
 so have I oncce or twice. Are you sure you have the speakers plugged
 into the right output from the motherboard? Normally it's the green
 one in the middle.
 
 Also, there was a time when the Intel 810 was senting output out on
 some other plug on a couple of machines. Try the headphone output plug
 as well as the speaker output plug.
 
 - Mark
 
 
 
 
 I have my speakers plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the
 case.  That's the only way I could get sound out of them in Windows XP.
 
 
   
 
 The headphone jack on the front of the case?  First of all, make sure 
 that this is not the headphone jack on the front of the CD-ROM drive.

The cd-rom drive is at the top of the case.  The headphone jack my
speakers are plugged into is at the bottom of the case.
   
 If this is actually just an alternate front panel jack you should still 
 try using the standard jack on the rear of the machine.  What if there 
 was something wrong with the front panel lead or jacks?  If you couldn't 
 get sound out of your machine under Windows through the regular 
 speaker-out or line-out jacks, and you could only get sound out of this 
 front panel connector, then either you have a serious hardware problem 
 with the card or you installed the front panel lead improperly.  

I think I just plugged the speakers into the wrong jack in the back.
Besides, it's a lot more convenient for me this way.
 On my 
 newer machines, the front panel lead connects to the appropriate pins on 
 the motherboard not once, but twice.  The second connection serves as a 
 jumper to enable the front panel connectors to work as well as the rear 
 panel connectors.  Check your motherboard manual to be sure that you 
 have things wired up correctly.  It sounds like you don't.  

I don't have a motherboard manual for this machine.  
 If 
 everything IS wired up correctly and both problems still persist (the 
 Windows one and the ALSA one), then I'd urge you to run out and buy a 
 new card.

It would cost more than I can afford to replace the card.  I would have
to pay for the new sound card, and then for someone to install it.  I
don't go inside the case anymore.  I'd rather have a working computer
(although mute in Linux) than a dead computer because I tried to fix the
hardware.

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
   often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
   supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
   sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
   on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
   running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.
 
  I'm really hesitant to mention this one, but others have done it and
  so have I oncce or twice. Are you sure you have the speakers plugged
  into the right output from the motherboard? Normally it's the green
  one in the middle.
 
  Also, there was a time when the Intel 810 was senting output out on
  some other plug on a couple of machines. Try the headphone output plug
  as well as the speaker output plug.
 
  - Mark
 

 I have my speakers plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the
 case.  That's the only way I could get sound out of them in Windows XP.

Seems like a reasonable thing, based on the Windows results, but I am
not the least bit confident that this will work with Alsa.

Can you test again using back panel connectors? What motherboard it
this? Or what machine? Is it somethign you built or is it like a Dell
or some other prebuilt machine.

One downside to Dell machines is that htey are SO tightly tied in with
Intel that they often are very leading edge hardware. Good for
Windows, if the drivers are ready, and Dell has enough pull to make
sure they are, but not a good thing when you get to be an early Linux
adopter.

Anyway, please, please try workign with the back panel connectors and
let me know what motherboard we are talking about.

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] amanda client

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Shields
Since google is your friend, if you had searched for gentoo
amanda-client, you would've found some more information.
amanda-client as your only search keyword returns some distros that
have seperate server/client packages (like Debian, FreeBSD,
OpenBSD). But these seem to be, if these packages are still
active, distro-created seperate packages. If you look at the
official website (http://amanda.org), you will see that even the
official releases don't have seperate server/client packages. The
server/client all come in the same gzipped tar file. Now, if you
were to request an ebuild for the client be made (I checked
bugs.gentoo.org, nothing there mentioning a client-only version), or
possibly a specific use flag for the ebuild (say amandaserver), someone
might be happy enough to make one for you (or you can always nudge the
package maintainer).On 10/21/05, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Google says there exists such a thing as amanda-client, but it's notin portage.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -pv amandaThese are the packages that I would merge, in order:Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuildN] mail-client/mailx-support-200302158 kB[ebuildN]
net-libs/liblockfile-1.0631 kB[ebuildN]
mail-client/mailx-8.1.2.20040524-r1126 kB[ebuildN]
sys-block/mtx-1.2.18163 kB[ebuildN]
app-arch/mt-st-0.7-r134 kB[ebuildN]
app-arch/dump-0.4.39+readline -static 270 kB[ebuildN]
media-libs/pdflib-5.0.4_p1-r1+java +perl +python -tcltk
2,759 kB[ebuildN]
media-gfx/gnuplot-4.0-r1+X +doc -emacs -gd -ggi +pdflib
-plotutils +png +readline -svga -xemacs 2,110 kB[ebuildN]
app-backup/amanda-2.4.5-berkdb -debug -gdbm -samba -xfs
1,505 kBTotal size of downloads: 7,009 kB~Judging from the names, most of these packages appear to be useful onlyin the server (gnuplot, ...).I need to setup the computer as client only.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 (is blocking net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30)

2005-10-22 Thread henkg
It only shosw the use flags for the qmail ebuild. one of them is 
-authcram.

In the Rdepend= part of the ebuild for qmail, the following was added 
compared to R15:

!noauthcram? (
|| ( =net-mail/checkpassword-0.90 
=net-mail/checkpassword-pam-0.99 )
=net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30
)

I'm not sure what this means, but I guess this causes the problem.

Kind regards, 

Henk.


On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 02:56:21PM -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
 Try emerge -pvu world (verbose option). It should tell you a bit more
 information.
 
 On 10/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I get the message from the subject when trying to emerge -pu world.
 
  This is on a standard system, that is only mythtv related lines in
  package.keywords.
 
  I tried to unmerge cmd5checkpw, but that doesn't help, because emerge
  -pu world immediately wants to merge the package again, with the same
  blocker.
 
  unmergin qmail doesn't seem like an option to me.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Henk,
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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Fish

Holly Bostick wrote:


Richard Fish schreef:
 

Just an FYI, I also have an intel-hda (in my laptop).  Alsamixer 
supports it just fine, except that the stupid card doesn't provide a 
Master Volume control, so you have to adjust the speaker volume

with the Front control.  Stupid card.
   



Right, so the idea (generally) is that this card maps Master to Front,
which seems to be confusing to alsasound, which cannot read 'Front' for
some reason (possibly because it does not understand/has not been told
that Master=Front, so it's still looking for a 'Master' control that
does not exist, and is not expecting the 'Master' control output to be
labelled 'Front'?).
 



The alsa approach seems to be to just expose the hardware capabilities 
of the card to userspace, without any intelligence for remapping 
controls and the like.  So it would be more accurate to simply state 
that the card does not provide any master control volume, just separate 
controls for Front, Surround, Center, and LFE, in addition to 
the standard Line, CD, Mic, and so on.  It expects the OS to 
provide a Master control that would adjust all of the outputs together. 

I think there is a way to do this in the .asoundrc file, but I haven't 
really investigated that yet.  On my laptop, it seems that all 4 
speakers, as well as the headphone jack, are wired to the Front 
control, so in reality I only need that to control the output volume.  
But I suspect if I actually used the s/pdif plug to connect to a true 
surround system, I would need to control all the outputs to adjust the 
volume.



Richard, did you have to do anything to make ALSA understand that there
was no Master control and that Front should be used for this purpose?
 



Nope.

-Richard
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[gentoo-user] way OT - doze equivalent for dvdrip for a linophobe friend

2005-10-22 Thread Antoine

Hi,
I am really embarrassed to ask this question but I have spent a couple 
of hours searching and couldn't find anything even remotely as good as:

emerge -av dvdrip

a couple of clicks, legal (in France it is even LEGAL to copy rented 
dvds!!!) backup of dvd. Why are things so much more difficult with doze?!?

Cheers
Antoine
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[gentoo-user] emerge -u world won't update kde metapackages

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Persson
I emerged kde 3.4 using the metapackages (kdebase-meta, kdeaddons-meta etc.).  
However I now find that emerge -u world fails to update any of the component 
packages to their latest versions, which should all be 3.4.1(-r2/r3/etc).  I 
end up emerging newer versions individually (e.g. emerge kopete) when I 
think I have a bug problem, which is obviously a clumsy way to do things.

I know I can emerge kdebase-meta kdeaddons-meta kdeblahblahblah to get 
things up to date, but is there a way to get portage to actually deal with 
kde nicely like it used to?

Many thanks
Robert
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Don't use nuclear weapons to troubleshoot faults.
(US Air Force Instruction 91-111, 1 Oct 1997)

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[gentoo-user] Leftover sun-jdk folders safe to delete?

2005-10-22 Thread Ian Brandt

I noticed the sun-jdk ebuilds are leaving behind a directory in /opt
after each update.  I presume these are safe to delete?

Thanks,

Ian

# cd /opt
# ls -aR sun-jdk-1.4.2.0[4-8]
sun-jdk-1.4.2.04:
.  ..  .systemPrefs

sun-jdk-1.4.2.04/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.4.2.05:
.  ..  .systemPrefs

sun-jdk-1.4.2.05/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.4.2.06:
.  ..  .systemPrefs  man

sun-jdk-1.4.2.06/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.4.2.06/man:
.  ..

sun-jdk-1.4.2.07:
.  ..  .systemPrefs  man

sun-jdk-1.4.2.07/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.4.2.07/man:
.  ..

sun-jdk-1.4.2.08:
.  ..  .systemPrefs  man

sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.4.2.08/man:
.  ..

# ls -aR sun-jdk-1.5.0.0[2-4]
sun-jdk-1.5.0.02:
.  ..  jre  man

sun-jdk-1.5.0.02/jre:
.  ..  .systemPrefs

sun-jdk-1.5.0.02/jre/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.5.0.02/man:
.  ..

sun-jdk-1.5.0.03:
.  ..  jre  man

sun-jdk-1.5.0.03/jre:
.  ..  .systemPrefs

sun-jdk-1.5.0.03/jre/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.5.0.03/man:
.  ..

sun-jdk-1.5.0.04:
.  ..  jre  man

sun-jdk-1.5.0.04/jre:
.  ..  .systemPrefs

sun-jdk-1.5.0.04/jre/.systemPrefs:
.  ..  .system.lock  .systemRootModFile

sun-jdk-1.5.0.04/man:
.  ..

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Re: [gentoo-user] [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 (is blocking net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30)

2005-10-22 Thread Mike Williams
On Saturday 22 October 2005 19:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I get the message from the subject when trying to emerge -pu world.

 This is on a standard system, that is only mythtv related lines in
 package.keywords.

 I tried to unmerge cmd5checkpw, but that doesn't help, because emerge
 -pu world immediately wants to merge the package again, with the same
 blocker.

 unmergin qmail doesn't seem like an option to me.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100693
And the following output when doing a fresh install of qmail-1.03-r16 and 
net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30:

 * this version is in NO WAY COMPATIBLE with cmd5checkpw-0.2x
 * it actually receives the authentication credentials
 * in a different order then the old implementation
 * see bug #100693 for details
 * this version IS needed by =qmail-1.03-r16

You could turn on noauthcram if you don't need/want CRAM MD5 authentication 
(do you have plain text passwords in /etc/poppasswd?), or emerge qmail 
--nodeps to update qmail then emerge world. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u world won't update kde metapackages

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Saturday 22 October 2005 04:07 pm, Robert Persson wrote:
 I know I can emerge kdebase-meta kdeaddons-meta kdeblahblahblah to get
 things up to date, but is there a way to get portage to actually deal with
 kde nicely like it used to?

Just emerge kde, you don't need to work with the meta packages themselves.  
The kde is itself a meta package and will ensure the sub-packages are kept up 
to date (at least that's how it's been working on my box).

Dave
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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 12:29 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
   On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.
  
   I'm really hesitant to mention this one, but others have done it and
   so have I oncce or twice. Are you sure you have the speakers plugged
   into the right output from the motherboard? Normally it's the green
   one in the middle.
  
   Also, there was a time when the Intel 810 was senting output out on
   some other plug on a couple of machines. Try the headphone output plug
   as well as the speaker output plug.
  
   - Mark
  
 
  I have my speakers plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the
  case.  That's the only way I could get sound out of them in Windows XP.
 
 Seems like a reasonable thing, based on the Windows results, but I am
 not the least bit confident that this will work with Alsa.
 
 Can you test again using back panel connectors? What motherboard it
 this? Or what machine? Is it somethign you built or is it like a Dell
 or some other prebuilt machine.
 
 One downside to Dell machines is that htey are SO tightly tied in with
 Intel that they often are very leading edge hardware. Good for
 Windows, if the drivers are ready, and Dell has enough pull to make
 sure they are, but not a good thing when you get to be an early Linux
 adopter.
 
 Anyway, please, please try workign with the back panel connectors and
 let me know what motherboard we are talking about.
 
 - Mark
 

OK.  I powered down the machine and tipped it and plugged my speakers
into the Line Out slot.  It worked in Windows.  Before I must have
plugged it into the Line In slot.  I booted back into Linux and
started alsasound and tried the aplay test.  No sound out of the
speakers...

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Re: [gentoo-user] My Continuing ALSA Woes

2005-10-22 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 12:29 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 08:51 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
   On 10/22/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Yes.  I sent the output in a previous post.  I don't use aplay very
often, but I believe that the output it gave was the output it's
supposed to give on a working sound system, except that there was no
sound coming out of the speakers.  I checked and the speakers are turned
on and plugged into the PC and I turned the volume all the way up before
running aplay and still didn't hear the wav file.
  
   I'm really hesitant to mention this one, but others have done it and
   so have I oncce or twice. Are you sure you have the speakers plugged
   into the right output from the motherboard? Normally it's the green
   one in the middle.
  
   Also, there was a time when the Intel 810 was senting output out on
   some other plug on a couple of machines. Try the headphone output plug
   as well as the speaker output plug.
  
   - Mark
  
 
  I have my speakers plugged into the headphone jack on the front of the
  case.  That's the only way I could get sound out of them in Windows XP.
 
 Seems like a reasonable thing, based on the Windows results, but I am
 not the least bit confident that this will work with Alsa.
 
 Can you test again using back panel connectors? What motherboard it
 this? Or what machine? Is it somethign you built or is it like a Dell
 or some other prebuilt machine.
 
 One downside to Dell machines is that htey are SO tightly tied in with
 Intel that they often are very leading edge hardware. Good for
 Windows, if the drivers are ready, and Dell has enough pull to make
 sure they are, but not a good thing when you get to be an early Linux
 adopter.
 
 Anyway, please, please try workign with the back panel connectors and
 let me know what motherboard we are talking about.
 
 - Mark
 

BTW you asked if this was one I built or some other prebuilt machine.
It's a NobelView P4 with a few changes I requested.  The sound card was
supposed to be a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live, but it's not.  I have
no idea what it is, but it's not an SB Live...

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[gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Keats
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:11:06 -0300
Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My hole linux box has crashed 
 I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
 
 it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
 system is against me
 I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
 idea, my backups are unavailable now 


are u sure that you have enough disk space ? 
an update of the system may download a lot of files... 
it happens when i have no space left, nothing work the gentoo is not
able to boot. i have to boot on rescue disk and make space... 

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u world won't update kde metapackages

2005-10-22 Thread Thomas Matthijs
* Robert Persson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I emerged kde 3.4 using the metapackages (kdebase-meta, kdeaddons-meta etc.). 
  
 However I now find that emerge -u world fails to update any of the component 


try: emerge -uD world
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Re: [gentoo-user] Leftover sun-jdk folders safe to delete?

2005-10-22 Thread Thomas Matthijs
* Ian Brandt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 I noticed the sun-jdk ebuilds are leaving behind a directory in /opt
 after each update.  I presume these are safe to delete?


They are.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u world won't update kde metapackages

2005-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Robert Persson wrote:
 I emerged kde 3.4 using the metapackages (kdebase-meta, kdeaddons-meta etc.). 
  
 However I now find that emerge -u world fails to update any of the component 
 packages to their latest versions, which should all be 3.4.1(-r2/r3/etc).  I 
 end up emerging newer versions individually (e.g. emerge kopete) when I 
 think I have a bug problem, which is obviously a clumsy way to do things.
 
 I know I can emerge kdebase-meta kdeaddons-meta kdeblahblahblah to get 
 things up to date, but is there a way to get portage to actually deal with 
 kde nicely like it used to?
 
 Many thanks
 Robert

Use the --deep option. emerge -uD world. see man emerge for more
information.

Regards,
Petteri


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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Keats wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:11:06 -0300
 Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
My hole linux box has crashed 
I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world

it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
system is against me
I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
idea, my backups are unavailable now 
 
 
 
 are u sure that you have enough disk space ? 
 an update of the system may download a lot of files... 
 it happens when i have no space left, nothing work the gentoo is not
 able to boot. i have to boot on rescue disk and make space... 
 

For this reason I put every directory that can grow during normal
operations outside to root partition so that I can boot although some
partition gets full.

Regards,
Petteri Räty



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Re: [gentoo-user] i386 vs amd64

2005-10-22 Thread Sean



All,

Thanks for your responses, I plan to try out the amd64 version.

Thanks,
Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] using g++ instead of gcc to build abiword

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Fish

Robert Persson wrote:

I just did CC=g++ and I now get a different error, both with 1.2.11 and 1.4.1, 
namely:


cdump.c: In function `int main(int, char**)':
cdump.c:99: error: invalid conversion from `void*' to `unsigned char*'
 



Hmm, yes, I guess this is to be expected.  C++ is much more strict about 
type conversions than C, so you can't really compile .c files as C++ and 
expect good results...


I just emerged 2.2.11, using gcc-3.3.4-r1, without any trouble.  One 
thing I noticed though:



zebedee ~ # emerge --info
Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.3.5, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 
 


...

[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1  (-altivec) -bootstrap -boundschecking 
-build +fortran +gcj +gtk -hardened -ip28 (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) 
(-n64) +nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp +objc -static -vanilla 26,919 kB
 



I think this means that, even though have gcc-3.4.4 merged, you are 
actually using 3.3.5 to compile things via portage.


Take a look at the output of gcc-config -l, and if necessary, change 
the active profile with gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4.  Then try 
emerging again.


-Richard

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[gentoo-user] programs have problems connecting to any servers

2005-10-22 Thread karlos
hi, 

I have posted this a few days ago and I know its quite newbie, but I would like to use XChat and emerge .. :)
One of the symptoms is that I can't ping the gentoo servers (heanet.ie for example) or connect to XChat servers.
I have tried to put in differnent nameserver settings into
/etc/resolv.conf (IPs that friends can use) and various different
setting on the router (DLink 504T), 
like Port Forwarding and sobut with no success. What could the
problem be, if the Router and possibliy my machine are set up correctly?
Any Help is VERY much appreciated!

Thanks, 

Karsten


Re: [gentoo-user] programs have problems connecting to any servers

2005-10-22 Thread Mark Knecht
On 10/22/05, karlos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,

  I have posted this a few days ago and I know its quite newbie, but I would
 like to use XChat and emerge .. :)
  One of the symptoms is that I can't ping the gentoo servers (heanet.ie for
 example) or connect to XChat servers.
  I have tried to put in differnent nameserver settings into /etc/resolv.conf
 (IPs that friends can use) and various different setting on the router
 (DLink 504T),
  like  Port Forwarding and sobut with no success. What could the problem be,
 if the Router and possibliy my machine are set up correctly?
  Any Help is VERY much appreciated!

  Thanks,

  Karsten


I guess you are writing here from another machine?

By 'Gentoo servers' do you mean the entries in make.conf? Can you ping
anything? Or is it just the servers you cannot get to?

If it's jsut the servers then here's the ones I'm using. They would
not be good long term solutions, but at least they work:

GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.tucdemonic.org/gentoo/
ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp
http://www.zentek-international.com/mirrors/gentoo/;

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] burning compressed iso

2005-10-22 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 15:37:27 +0100 (BST)
damian bamforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to burn an iso image with a .bz2 extension (the
 full file name is
 livecd64-ahorn5.iso.bz2).
 
 I only have windows xp.
 
 I tried the 'bsdtar' tool, but, whilst it decompresses
 the file, it
 doesn't leave an iso image which I can then burn.
 
 What do I do?

Ask in to a windows forum?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 (is blocking net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30)

2005-10-22 Thread henkg
On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 10:08:46PM +0100, Mike Williams wrote:
 You could turn on noauthcram if you don't need/want CRAM MD5 authentication 
 (do you have plain text passwords in /etc/poppasswd?), or emerge qmail 
 --nodeps to update qmail then emerge world. 

Still something to learn I guess. my poppasswd file is still the example 
file that came with whatever it came with. My pop accounts are 
authenticated via the regular linux logins, so for every pop user (3 at 
the moment) I have a user acount in linux.

What package uses this poppasswd file?

I tried qpkg, but that doesn't seem to exist any more?

Does the above mean I can safely enable noauthcram?

Thanks,

Henk.
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Re: [gentoo-user] using g++ instead of gcc to build abiword

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Persson
Thanks Richard

I'm glad you pointed out that gcc version thing to me.  But it doesn't change 
anything about compiling abiword unfortunately, with or without using g++.

The strange thing is that abiword-2.2.10 (the version I currently have 
installed) was only released last month sometime.  So between then and now 
something has changed on my system to prevent it compiling properly.  If gcc 
hasn't changed then what on earth could it be?

Robert

On October 22, 2005 02:00 pm Richard Fish was like:
 Robert Persson wrote:
 I just did CC=g++ and I now get a different error, both with 1.2.11 and
  1.4.1, namely:
 
  cdump.c: In function `int main(int, char**)':
  cdump.c:99: error: invalid conversion from `void*' to `unsigned char*'

 Hmm, yes, I guess this is to be expected.  C++ is much more strict about
 type conversions than C, so you can't really compile .c files as C++ and
 expect good results...

 I just emerged 2.2.11, using gcc-3.3.4-r1, without any trouble.  One

 thing I noticed though:
 zebedee ~ # emerge --info
 Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.0, gcc-3.3.5, glibc-2.3.5-r2,

 ...

 [ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1  (-altivec) -bootstrap
  -boundschecking -build +fortran +gcj +gtk -hardened -ip28 (-multilib)
  -multislot (-n32) (-n64) +nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp +objc -static -vanilla
  26,919 kB

 I think this means that, even though have gcc-3.4.4 merged, you are
 actually using 3.3.5 to compile things via portage.

 Take a look at the output of gcc-config -l, and if necessary, change
 the active profile with gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4.  Then try
 emerging again.

 -Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] using g++ instead of gcc to build abiword

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Nebinger
On Saturday 22 October 2005 07:29 pm, Robert Persson wrote:
 The strange thing is that abiword-2.2.10 (the version I currently have
 installed) was only released last month sometime.  So between then and now
 something has changed on my system to prevent it compiling properly.  If
 gcc hasn't changed then what on earth could it be?

I think at this point you'll have to post some of the output generated when 
the ebuild fails before we'll be able to help you any further...

Just saying you're getting error on delete(void*) doesn't really provide much 
info in regards to what was happening at the time.

Dave
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Re: [gentoo-user] [blocks B ] mail-mta/qmail-1.03-r16 (is blocking net-mail/cmd5checkpw-0.30)

2005-10-22 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 23 October 2005 00:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Still something to learn I guess. my poppasswd file is still the example
 file that came with whatever it came with. My pop accounts are
 authenticated via the regular linux logins, so for every pop user (3 at
 the moment) I have a user acount in linux.

Good good.

 What package uses this poppasswd file?

cmd5checkpw, and anything else which does CRAM MD5 authentication at a guess.
CRAM is done by sending a hash of the password over the wire, the salt is 
unique for each connection, so you need the plain text password on the server 
to check against, which are kept in poppasswd.
Secure over the wire, hideously insecure on the server.

 I tried qpkg, but that doesn't seem to exist any more?

Yeah, it got moved to another package as it's depreciated in favour of equery.

 Does the above mean I can safely enable noauthcram?

Yes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] using g++ instead of gcc to build abiword

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Persson
On October 22, 2005 04:38 pm Dave Nebinger was like:
 I think at this point you'll have to post some of the output generated when
 the ebuild fails before we'll be able to help you any further...

Well here goes...

...
UnixMain.o ../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a ../../../../src/wp/impexp/libImpExp.a 
../../../../src/af/xap/libXap.a ../../../../src/af/util/libUtil.a 
../../../../src/af/gr/libGr.a ../../../../src/af/ev/libEv.a 
../../../../src/other/spell/xp/libSpell.a 
../../../../src/other/ttftool/unix/libTtfTool.a 
../../../../src/pkg/linux/apkg/libApkg.a ../../../../src/text/fmt/xp/libFmt.a 
../../../../src/text/ptbl/xp/libPtbl.a ../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a 
../../../../src/wp/impexp/libImpExp.a ../../../../src/af/xap/libXap.a 
../../../../src/af/util/libUtil.a ../../../../src/af/gr/libGr.a 
../../../../src/af/ev/libEv.a ../../../../src/other/spell/xp/libSpell.a 
../../../../src/other/ttftool/unix/libTtfTool.a 
../../../../src/pkg/linux/apkg/libApkg.a ../../../../src/text/fmt/xp/libFmt.a 
../../../../src/text/ptbl/xp/libPtbl.a ../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a 
../../../../src/wp/impexp/libImpExp.a ../../../../src/af/xap/libXap.a 
../../../../src/af/util/libUtil.a ../../../../src/af/gr/libGr.a ../../../../!
 src/af/ev/libEv.a ../../../../src/other/spell/xp/libSpell.a 
../../../../src/other/ttftool/unix/libTtfTool.a 
../../../../src/pkg/linux/apkg/libApkg.a ../../../../src/text/fmt/xp/libFmt.a 
../../../../src/text/ptbl/xp/libPtbl.a ../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a 
../../../../src/wp/impexp/libImpExp.a ../../../../src/af/xap/libXap.a 
../../../../src/af/util/libUtil.a ../../../../src/af/gr/libGr.a 
../../../../src/af/ev/libEv.a ../../../../src/other/spell/xp/libSpell.a 
../../../../src/other/ttftool/unix/libTtfTool.a 
../../../../src/pkg/linux/apkg/libApkg.a ../../../../src/text/fmt/xp/libFmt.a 
../../../../src/text/ptbl/xp/libPtbl.a 
-lglade-2.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxml2 -lpthread -lz -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 
-lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 
-lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -lSM -lICE -lX11  -Wl,--export-dynamic 
-lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0-Wl,--export-dynamic -lgnomeprintui-2-2 
-lgnomeprint-2-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lxml2 -lpthread -lz -lart_lgpl_2 
-lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm 
-lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl 
-lglib-2.0   -Wl,--export-dynamic -lenchant -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0   
-L/usr/lib -lxml2 -lz -lpthread -lm   -lfribidi -lwv -lwmf -lwmflite 
-lfreetype -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lexpat -ljpeg -lxml2 -lpthread -lglib-2.0 -lpng 
-lz -lm   -lglib-2.0-lpng12 -lz -lm   -lz -lpopt -lXft -lX11 -lfreetype 
-lXrender -lfontconfig-pthread -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0
UnixMain.o(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x3ef): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::loadStringsFromDisk(char const*, AP_BuiltinStringSet*)':
: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x45b): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::loadStringsFromDisk(char const*, AP_BuiltinStringSet*)':
: undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x489): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::newFrame()':
: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x4b7): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::newFrame()':
: undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x70b): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::copyToClipboard(PD_DocumentRange*, bool)':
: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x743): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::copyToClipboard(PD_DocumentRange*, bool)':
: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x783): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::copyToClipboard(PD_DocumentRange*, bool)':
: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x7bf): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::copyToClipboard(PD_DocumentRange*, bool)':
: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0x9cc): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::copyToClipboard(PD_DocumentRange*, bool)':
: undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)'
../../../../src/wp/ap/libAp.a(ap_UnixApp.o)(.text+0xb98): In function 
`AP_UnixApp::pasteFromClipboard(PD_DocumentRange*, bool, bool)':
: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'

...about 2 glorious MB of messages about undefined references until...


../../../../src/text/fmt/xp/libFmt.a(fl_SelectionPreserver.o)(.eh_frame+0x11): 
undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [AbiWord-2.4] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/abiword-2.4.1/work/abiword-2.4.1/abi/src/wp/main/unix'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

[gentoo-user] CFLAGS setting for Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHZ stepping 08

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Watson
I've just got a new laptop I'm installing Gentoo on and was wondering if
anyone could advise on the CFLAG setting I'm using. The CPU is a
Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHZ stepping 08. Currently I've set
CFLAGS=-02 -mcpu=pentium -pipe
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Re: [gentoo-user] i386 vs amd64

2005-10-22 Thread Justin Patrin
On 10/22/05, Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 All,

 Thanks for your responses, I plan to try out the amd64 version.


Be very careful if you're doing any cross-compiling. The system
headers in Gentoo AMD64 are hacked to allow compiling for both 64 and
32-bit. If you try compiling for, say, ARM and it picks up the system
headers you get *nothing*wonderful, eh?

To Gentoo devs:
Might I suggest that the system headers default to 32-bit?

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[gentoo-user] Newcomer: Nvidia from GRP and MX4000

2005-10-22 Thread Alan E. Davis
On AMD64 system with an MX 4000 video card. 

I have made it through an installation, installing everything from the
Packages (GRP) disk. This has been a no-net install so far.

Trying to configure Xorg, after installing nvidia-kernel driver and nvidia-glx. 
 Xorg -configure
then
 X -config /root/xorg.conf.new

I also did modprobe nvidia 

I am receiving the message 

 (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!

Then the process aborted.

I haven't found (yet) any suggestions, except to install a newer version of the nvidia-kernel.

I fear I will have to upgrade the whole system now, once I can get online, which may be days away.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Alan Davis



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