Re: [gentoo-user] Screen settings

2006-02-22 Thread Martins Steinbergs
On Thursday 23 February 2006 08:14, Rajat Gujral wrote:
> Hi richard and jerry
> thanx for ur suggestions but i guess my problem remains the same ... My
> xserver still starts with screen resolution of 640 x 480 ... Before the
> improper shutdown it was working fine in 1024 x 768 resolution , but now no
> matter what resolution i provide, it starts up with 640 x 480 resolution
> which makes the screen appear so big .. Is there anything else that i can
> do
>
>
> Thnx & Regds

So you running KDE, have you checked KDE settings in Control Center -> 
Peripherals -> Display?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen settings

2006-02-22 Thread Steven S.

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Rajat Gujral wrote:

Have you tried adding the option DefaultDepth? Since you have the Modes 
1024x768 for 24, it should come out looking 
like:


 Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection

This is the only way I am ever able to get my system to go to 1280x1024, 
possibly it'll force yours to the correct setting.



Hi richard and jerry
thanx for ur suggestions but i guess my problem remains the same ... My
xserver still starts with screen resolution of 640 x 480 ... Before the
improper shutdown it was working fine in 1024 x 768 resolution , but now no
matter what resolution i provide, it starts up with 640 x 480 resolution
which makes the screen appear so big .. Is there anything else that i can do


Thnx & Regds


Rajat :)


P.S. I have done "X -configure" and has detected the following settings :

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "X.org Configured"
   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
   RgbPath  "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
   ModulePath   "/usr/lib/modules"
   FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
   FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
   FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
   FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
   FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
   FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load  "extmod"
   Load  "dbe"
   Load  "dri"
   Load  "record"
   Load  "xtrap"
   Load  "glx"
   Load  "type1"
   Load  "freetype"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
   Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Mouse0"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Protocol" "Microsoft"
   Option  "Device" "/dev/ttyS1"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
   ModelName"Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
   ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
   ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
   ### [arg]: arg optional
   #Option "NoAccel"   # []
   #Option "SWcursor"  # []
   #Option "ColorKey"  # 
   #Option "CacheLines"# 
   #Option "Dac6Bit"   # []
   #Option "DRI"   # []
   #Option "NoDDC" # []
   #Option "ShowCache" # []
   #Option "XvMCSurfaces"  # 
   #Option "PageFlip"  # []
   Identifier  "Card0"
   Driver  "i810"
   VendorName  "Intel Corp."
   BoardName   "82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
   BusID   "PCI:0:1:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device "Card0"
   Monitor"Monitor0"
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 1
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 4
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 8
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 15
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 16
   Modes "1024x768"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 24
   Modes "1024x768"
   EndSubSection
EndSection




On 2/22/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 2/22/06, Jerry Eastmanhouser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

settings.  I did mine manually a long long time ago, but I think you can

use

xorgconfig to detect most of your settings for you...if so...hopefully

that

will fix you up.


I would suggest instead "X -configure".  That should autodetect most
things, unlike xorgconfig which asks you a bunch of questions that
most users don't know the answers to.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen settings

2006-02-22 Thread Frino Klauss
Hi Rajat,
I suggest u add the following to your Screen section. 
DefaultDepth 24
 
just after the Monitor Line.
 
Cheers,
Ani Adarsh 
On 2/23/06, Rajat Gujral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi richard and jerrythanx for ur suggestions but i guess my problem remains the same ... My xserver still starts with screen resolution of 640 x 480 ... Before the improper shutdown it was working fine in 1024 x 768 resolution , but now no matter what resolution i provide, it starts up with 640 x 480 resolution which makes the screen appear so big .. Is there anything else that i can do 
Thnx & Regds Rajat :)P.S. I have done "X -configure" and has detected the following settings : Section "ServerLayout"    Identifier "
X.org Configured"    Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSectionSection "Files"    RgbPath  "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/modules"    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSectionSection "Module"    Load  "extmod"    Load  "dbe"    Load  "dri"    Load  "record"    Load  "xtrap"
    Load  "glx"    Load  "type1"    Load  "freetype"EndSectionSection "InputDevice"    Identifier  "Keyboard0"    Driver  "kbd"
EndSectionSection "InputDevice"    Identifier  "Mouse0"    Driver  "mouse"    Option  "Protocol" "Microsoft"    Option  "Device" "/dev/ttyS1"
EndSectionSection "Monitor"    Identifier   "Monitor0"    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"    ModelName    "Monitor Model"EndSectionSection "Device"
    ### Available Driver options are:-    ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",    ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
    ### [arg]: arg optional    #Option "NoAccel"   # []    #Option "SWcursor"  # []    #Option "ColorKey"  # 
    #Option "CacheLines"    #     #Option "Dac6Bit"   # []    #Option "DRI"   # []
    #Option "NoDDC" # []    #Option "ShowCache" # []    #Option "XvMCSurfaces"  # 
    #Option "PageFlip"  # []    Identifier  "Card0"    Driver  "i810"    VendorName  "Intel Corp."    BoardName   "82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
    BusID   "PCI:0:1:0"EndSectionSection "Screen"    Identifier "Screen0"    Device "Card0"    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    SubSection "Display"    Viewport   0 0    Depth 1    EndSubSection    SubSection "Display"    Viewport   0 0    Depth 4
    EndSubSection    SubSection "Display"    Viewport   0 0    Depth 8    EndSubSection    SubSection "Display"    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 15    EndSubSection    SubSection "Display"    Viewport   0 0    Depth 16    Modes "1024x768"    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"    Viewport   0 0    Depth 24    Modes "1024x768"    EndSubSectionEndSection 

On 2/22/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 
On 2/22/06, Jerry Eastmanhouser <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> settings.  I did mine manually a long long time ago, but I think you can use> xorgconfig to detect most of your settings for you...if so...hopefully that > will fix you up.
I would suggest instead "X -configure".  That should autodetect mostthings, unlike xorgconfig which asks you a bunch of questions thatmost users don't know the answers to. -Richard
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[gentoo-user] mwcollect deprecation notice

2006-02-22 Thread Chris White
Hi all,

Just a quick announcement that as per the announcement recently:

http://www.mwcollect.org/

mwcollect has merged code with nepenthes ( http://nepenthes.mwcollect.org/ ).  
That said, the upgrade path will be as follows:

1) Version 3.0.4 will be added to the tree, most likely tommorow evening PST
2) I'll file a bug with ppc to ensure the proper keywording transitions over.
3) When the nepenthes version comes out with the code merged, mwcollect will 
be removed from the tree, and the appropriate package move will be added so 
users are automatically converted over to nepenthes.

Thanks all
Chris White


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Jacobs

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote:

On 2/22/06, Lance Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

However, I already have

USE="-X -gtk -gnome -qt -kde -alsa -xpm -opengl userprofiles ..."

in make.conf, so somehow this is ignoring that "-xpm".  Even adding

www-apps/wordpress -xpm

in /etc/portage/package.use doesn't prevent the original emerge command
from trying to pull in xterm and X11.  What am I missing now?


It is not wordpress that has the xpm USE flag, but dev-lang/php.  So
that should be "dev-lang/php -xpm".  Also, make sure that only a
single entry for the package appears in package.use.

For the make.conf case, well, it should work.  Maybe check the output
of "emerge -DNuvp world", and if that doesn't help, post the output of
emerge --info.


Bingo -- the "dev-lang/php -xpm" entry solved the problem.  And, as
another poster suggested, I apparently did not have -xpm in place at the
time that php was built, as --newuse now wants to rebuild it due to the
change in that flag.

Is there some tool that I should be using, or some additional emerge
flag, that would help diagnose a problem like this?  I tried masking the
packages that were being brought in, to see if that would tell me which
package had the dependency that was bringing in the extra stuff, but
nothing ever pointed me at php -- virtual/x11-6.8 is as far as it would
ever go.  I appreciate the help and would like learn from this, and
avoid bugging the list if something like this comes up again.

Regards,
Lance

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen settings

2006-02-22 Thread Rajat Gujral
Hi richard and jerry
thanx for ur suggestions but i guess my problem remains the same ... My
xserver still starts with screen resolution of 640 x 480 ... Before the
improper shutdown it was working fine in 1024 x 768 resolution , but
now no matter what resolution i provide, it starts up with 640 x 480
resolution which makes the screen appear so big .. Is there anything
else that i can do 

Thnx & Regds 


Rajat :)


P.S. I have done "X -configure" and has detected the following settings : 

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "X.org Configured"
    Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    RgbPath  "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/modules"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "xtrap"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "type1"
    Load  "freetype"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver  "mouse"
    Option  "Protocol" "Microsoft"
    Option  "Device" "/dev/ttyS1"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection
Section "Device"
    ### Available Driver options are:-
    ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
    ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
    ### [arg]: arg optional
   
#Option
"NoAccel"  
# []
   
#Option
"SWcursor" 
# []
   
#Option
"ColorKey" 
# 
   
#Option
"CacheLines"   
# 
   
#Option
"Dac6Bit"  
# []
   
#Option
"DRI"  
# []
   
#Option
"NoDDC"
# []
   
#Option
"ShowCache"
# []
   
#Option
"XvMCSurfaces" 
# 
   
#Option
"PageFlip" 
# []
    Identifier  "Card0"
    Driver  "i810"
    VendorName  "Intel Corp."
    BoardName   "82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
    BusID   "PCI:0:1:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device "Card0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 1
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 4
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 8
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 15
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 16
   
Modes "1024x768"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 24
   
Modes "1024x768"
    EndSubSection
EndSection


On 2/22/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/22/06, Jerry Eastmanhouser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> settings.  I did mine manually a long long time ago, but I think you can use> xorgconfig to detect most of your settings for you...if so...hopefully that
> will fix you up.I would suggest instead "X -configure".  That should autodetect mostthings, unlike xorgconfig which asks you a bunch of questions thatmost users don't know the answers to.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everybody!
>
> I'm having problems with a laptop and the suspend2 patched kernel.  It
> seems like whenever I suspend to ram, and then resume, the video doesn't
> come back.

More details please.  (video card, which X11 driver, which
console/framebuffer driver, are you suspending from console or X,
etc).

FYI, both the ATI and NVidia proprietary drivers have some support for
suspend-to-ram (you do _not_ need suspend2 or a patched kernel for
this however), but I find it works best when suspending from within X,
and the console may or may not be restored.

> Also,  I'm using the intel 2200 wireless card, with the ipw2200 module,
> and if I put the laptop into hibernate and then power it back on, the
> wireless card doesn't come back up.

Never saw this problem...it should work fine.  Is the module reloaded
when the system resumes?  Anything show up in dmesg or the system log?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Lance Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, I already have
>
> USE="-X -gtk -gnome -qt -kde -alsa -xpm -opengl userprofiles ..."
>

Oh also, not directly related to your question, but it sounds like you
might be better off using something like USE="-* userprofiles ...". 
The "-*" turns off all default flags (which can change when changing
profiles, or when installing certain packages), so that only the flags
you specifically want are on.  Then I would make heavy use of
package.use to turn on specific USE flags for specific packages,
rather than globally enabling them in make.conf.

This does take a bit more care to get right, but it can result in a
very lean system, with no surprises like the x11 dependancy you had
today.

But be really careful if you do convert to this, and don't merge
anything without examining the output of "emerge -DNuvp world", and
being happy with the changes it wants to make.  Switching from "pam"
to "-pam" has been reported to break systems, for example.  Once you
are happy, run the emerge for real.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-22 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 23:14 -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> 
> I'm having problems with a laptop and the suspend2 patched kernel.  It 
> seems like whenever I suspend to ram, and then resume, the video doesn't 
> come back.

suspend2-sources?

what video card? did you try the vbetool hack?
> 
> Also,  I'm using the intel 2200 wireless card, with the ipw2200 module, 
> and if I put the laptop into hibernate and then power it back on, the 
> wireless card doesn't come back up.

i have ipw2100. It's modprobed -r by suspend2 config files. IIRC you ma
have to modprob it back on. Not sure.

> 
> Is there anything I can do to fix this?  Or somewhere I can go that will 
> tell me how to fix those kinds of issues?

I would check with the suspend2 list. But a quick search through my own
list archive (under evolution) I found no reference to your problem
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Lance Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, I already have
>
> USE="-X -gtk -gnome -qt -kde -alsa -xpm -opengl userprofiles ..."
>
> in make.conf, so somehow this is ignoring that "-xpm".  Even adding
>
> www-apps/wordpress -xpm
>
> in /etc/portage/package.use doesn't prevent the original emerge command
> from trying to pull in xterm and X11.  What am I missing now?

It is not wordpress that has the xpm USE flag, but dev-lang/php.  So
that should be "dev-lang/php -xpm".  Also, make sure that only a
single entry for the package appears in package.use.

For the make.conf case, well, it should work.  Maybe check the output
of "emerge -DNuvp world", and if that doesn't help, post the output of
emerge --info.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-22 Thread Mike Myers

Hi everybody!

I'm having problems with a laptop and the suspend2 patched kernel.  It 
seems like whenever I suspend to ram, and then resume, the video doesn't 
come back.


Also,  I'm using the intel 2200 wireless card, with the ipw2200 module, 
and if I put the laptop into hibernate and then power it back on, the 
wireless card doesn't come back up.


Is there anything I can do to fix this?  Or somewhere I can go that will 
tell me how to fix those kinds of issues?

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Re: [gentoo-user] tcltk weird behaviour

2006-02-22 Thread Ghaith Hachem
thanks for the tips
i did remerge tk tcl and python several times as well as the
complaining packages.. no luck
or was it only tcl? i'll check that today maybe i forgot to recompile tk
about the glibc yes i'm using ~x86 i'll try revdep-rebuild today
though i don't think it gave me any packages last time
i'll also try to recompile Mercury i hope it works

On 2/23/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> don't know about tcl/tk...
>
> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 10:42 +0200, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> >
> > i don't know when it happened i noticed this 2 days ago i rememrged
> > python with tcltk useflag it didnt' seem to solve anything
>
> did you re-emerge tk?
>
> > i'm also having problems starting Mercury i think it's irrelated but i
> > thought i'd post it maybe there's sth i missed
> >
> > $ Mercury/Mercury
> > awk: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> hm, libdl.so is owned by glibc:
>
> $ equery belongs `slocate libdl.so.2`
> [ Searching for file(s) /lib/libdl.so.2 in *... ]
> sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r3 (/lib/libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.3.6.so)
>
> Did you upgrade glibc recently?  Are you using ~x86?  Try running
> revdep-rebuild (don't know if it will help, but I think this is what
> it's meant for :)
>
> > Note the mercury isnt' installed with portage if that would matter
>
> ahh, maybe you should recompile it.
>
> I'm kindof stabbing in the dark, but HTH anyway!
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] puzzled over why xrdb process hangs

2006-02-22 Thread Zac Slade
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 14:59, James wrote:
> quickly running 'top' I find the culprit:
> krdb. I can kill it off and the sequence completes and the system is fine.
>
> But 'eix xrdb' reveals:
> x11-apps/xrdb
>  Available versions:  [M]1.0.1
>  Installed:   none
>
>
> If it's not installed how can it be running (hung)?
> I've tried all sorts of things to fix this and nothing
> works, including revdep-rebuild...

Are you using the monolithic or split ebuilds for kde?
That is, did you emerge kde or emerge kde-meta?
If you using the monolithic ebuilds, this binary will be provided by a 
different package.  If you'll locate the actual binary, you can find which 
package provides it with equery b /path/to/xrdb.  You might be able to 
recompile that package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Greg Bur
On 2/22/06, Lance Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
However, I already haveUSE="-X -gtk -gnome -qt -kde -alsa -xpm -opengl userprofiles ..."in make.conf, so somehow this is ignoring that "-xpm".  Even addingwww-apps/wordpress -xpm
in /etc/portage/package.use doesn't prevent the original emerge commandfrom trying to pull in xterm and X11.  What am I missing now?Is it possible the xpm use flag was set when you built php?
 


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wireless works with Knoppix CD but not Gentoo

2006-02-22 Thread Grant
> > I was originally using wpa_supplicant with this Airport and it wasn't
> > working.  John Jolet said:
> >
> > "well, you DON'T use wpa_supplicant."
>
> I'm not aware of any issues regarding the use of wpa_supplicant with
> regards to WEP.
> It is supported.
>
> > and I've been working with wireless-tools ever since.  I'm using:
> >
> > ifconfig ath0 up
> > iwconfig ath0 essid Myessid
> > iwconfig ath0 key s:Mykey
> > pump -i ath0
>
> > I tried dhcpcd and it didn't work either.  Knoppix was using pump
> > sucessfully so I tried that with Gentoo as above.
>
> > Honestly, how could this not be a package versions issue?  The above
> > commands work on the Knoppix 4 DVD but not on up-to-date Gentoo.
> >
> > - Grant
>
> For the sake of testing change your commands to what I use.
> This works on all the access points that I connect to:
>
> iwconfig ath0 essid [YOUR_ESSID]
> iwconfig ath0 mode managed
> iwconfig ath0 channel [no]
> iwconfig ath0 enc [YOUR_HEXKEY]
>
> Maybe just specifying the channel and mode..just a long shot.
>
> Could you post the output of "iwconfig"?.
>
> Come to think of it what does your "/etc/conf/net
> and /etc/conf/wireless" have set.
> There could be some conflicting configurations.
> Check those two files out!!!
>
> Rob

I am very happy to report that this has been fixed and is now working
with the Gentoo init.d script.  It was a package version issue with
madwifi-driver.  These are in portage:

0.1443.20060207
0.1440.20060206
0.1420.20060201
0.1401.20060117
0.1_pre20050420-r1

and the ONLY one that will connect to the Airport router is
0.1401.20060117.  I should submit a bug, no?

- Grant

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-22 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 05:24 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 February 2006 04:07, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
> about '[gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync':
> > Anyone wants to comment??
> 
> I already think Gentoo base system requirements are a bit heavy just having 
> python in there.  (I'm trying to run gentoo on my WRT54G 1.1; storage over 
> nfs/nbd)  It would be completely over-the-top to require Modula 3 support 
> as well.

Just tried cvsup on a FreeBSD box (in vmware) and it totally sucked.
Took 1hr 20 min to update on a 512KB DSL.

Link wasn't even saturated! Might as well be on 56K connection. DL rate
max I've seen was 8KB/s


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Any auto-hiding panels with a bunch of dependancies?

2006-02-22 Thread Robert Morris
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 00:58 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
>   I've been using x11-misc/fbpanel as my dashboard app.  It lacks only
> one item, namely that it doesn't autohide.  Also, it doesn't show up in
> the task list, so I couldn't {ALT-TAB} to it if it wasn't set to be
> "always on top".
> 
>   Is there a simple dashboard/panel, like fbpanel but with autohide?  I
> tried "emerge --pretend gnome-panel", and it seems to want to build most
> of GNOME as dependancies...

You could try pypanel. It has the autohide feature, but I'm not sure
that it responds to ALT-TAB. It's been a while since I've used it.

Robert

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Re: [gentoo-user] etc/host.conf: line 24: bad command `mdns off'

2006-02-22 Thread W.Kenworthy
not only that, but this error has been there for many months, no matter
what version of glibc you use.  It doesnt seem to cause any problems on
my systems, but if the line is erroring off, it means that you are using
MDNS by default (or so it seems), so commenting the line is status quo.

Has there been a specific bug actually raised on this so far - or is
anyone raising a bug on this?  If not I will in an hour or so.

BillK

On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 08:39 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> wah horsey, whoah!
> 
> OK...
> 
> 1. I could have deleted the line by myself, but I didn't because I've
> never touched /etc/host.conf so far, and because it belonged to glibc, I
> didn't want to stuff around with it.  My system is working, even though
> I get this "error" message, so I left it as is until I was sure.
> 
> 2. Yes I am running an unstable system (~x86), and that includes glibc,
> gcc, kernels, and every other package I have installed.  I am aware that
> from time to time this may cause problems, but I do it for two reasons:
>  a) I like to help as much as I can in detecting and reporting bugs
> before they make it to x86 (or other archs), because even though I'm
> employed as one, I'm not much of a programmer :P
>  b) I like having new features and fixes sooner rather than later.
> 
> 3. Thanks for the comments, especially from Rumen quoting the einfo
> lines - I only have warnings mailed to me so I missed that one.
> 
> 4. I think I will file a bug - IMHO there should have been a
> new /etc/host.conf, which would have then been labelled ._cfg_host.conf
> (or whatever) and I would have resolved the problem myself.  If it got
> me worried, it's going to get a lot more people worried when it hits
> x86.
> 
> cya,
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> 
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> from beginning to end.
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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-22 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 23 February 2006 00:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Your 32-but kernel can't run the 64-bit bash.  You'll have to use a 64-bit
> kernel (or as 32-bit stage3, and then gradually recompile)

Thanks for explaining that.

> If you have a little bit of free space, do a 32-bit install to a separate
> LV.  No need to really do a full install, just enough so you can compile a
> 64-bit kernel and install and configure your bootloader to load the 64-bit
> kernel.
>
> That should be as easy as lvcreate, format, mount, extract 32-bit stage3,
> cp over /etc/resolv.conf, chroot, emerge -sources,
> cd /usr/src/, zcat /proc/config.gz > .config, make oldconfig,
> make, emerge grub, mount /boot, grub-install, make install, umount boot,
> shutdown -r now.

Is that all it takes? I'll definitely try that then. Thanks again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Jacobs

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Richard Fish wrote:

On 2/22/06, Lance Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Looking at the wordpress ebuild file, I do not see any reason for it to
have a dependency on xterm.  I'm probably missing something simple, but
I just don't see it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.


wordpress depends on virtual/httpd-php, which for the current x86
profile defaults to dev-lang/php, which inherits the php5_0-sapi
eclass (or php5_1-sapi if you accept ~x86), which contains:

  xpm? ( || ( x11-libs/libXpm virtual/x11 ) )

So if you have USE=xpm, this drags in either x11-libs/libXpm or
virtual/x11, but libXpm is still hard masked.  So you end up depending
on virtual/x11, which is satisfied currently by xorg-x11-6.8, which
requires xterm.  Simple enough?? ;->

Try with USE=-xpm.


Hmm, that seems to fix it:

   [gromit ~ #] USE=-xpm emerge -uDptv wordpress
   These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
   Calculating dependencies ...done!
   [ebuild  N] www-apps/wordpress-2.0.1  +vhosts 0 kB
   Total size of downloads: 0 kB

However, I already have

   USE="-X -gtk -gnome -qt -kde -alsa -xpm -opengl userprofiles ..."

in make.conf, so somehow this is ignoring that "-xpm".  Even adding

   www-apps/wordpress -xpm

in /etc/portage/package.use doesn't prevent the original emerge command
from trying to pull in xterm and X11.  What am I missing now?

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 17:03, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about '[gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec 
format error':
> I have just purchased a new computer with a AMD Semphron 2800+ 64 bit
> processor. I am installing it following the gentoo handbook of the amd64
> architecture - only I am using the x86 minimal livecd (2005-r1) and the
> stage3-amd64-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2 tarball. Shouldn that be a problem?

Definitely a problem.

> livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
> chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

Your 32-but kernel can't run the 64-bit bash.  You'll have to use a 64-bit 
kernel (or as 32-bit stage3, and then gradually recompile)

> I did use LVM2 for partitioning but other than that I have followed the
> handbook very throughly. I hope someone has a solution.  Please feel
> free to ask for any information that may be helpful.

If you have a little bit of free space, do a 32-bit install to a separate 
LV.  No need to really do a full install, just enough so you can compile a 
64-bit kernel and install and configure your bootloader to load the 64-bit 
kernel.

That should be as easy as lvcreate, format, mount, extract 32-bit stage3, 
cp over /etc/resolv.conf, chroot, emerge -sources, 
cd /usr/src/, zcat /proc/config.gz > .config, make oldconfig, 
make, emerge grub, mount /boot, grub-install, make install, umount boot, 
shutdown -r now.

(Maybe a few steps I'm missing, and I don't mess with (e)lilo.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-22 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 23 February 2006 00:28, Mick wrote:
> At the same time when you run a command you need to type the path to it
> correctly.  In this case the path is preceded by /, as in:
> 
> /bin/bash
> 
>
> You really need to double check commands before you hit return as it is
> easy to miss a character and the whole sequence goes to pot.

At first I ran:
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash

When I got the error message I tried without the first slash since it couldn't 
do any damage to test it. Same error. By mistake it was the last command that 
went in the mail.

I guess I have to burn yet another cd then. :( Well, as longs as it works. Did 
suspect that was the problem. Wanted to be sure though.

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[gentoo-user] iptables script tips for ppp0

2006-02-22 Thread Mick
Hi All,

Thanks to Daniel Robbins and his articles I've got the following basic
script working on one of my boxes:

#(connection to the Internet)

UPLINK="eth0"

#if you're a router (and thus should forward IP packets between interfaces),
#you want ROUTER="yes"; otherwise, ROUTER="no"

ROUTER="no"

#change this next line to the static IP of your uplink interface for static
SNAT, or
#"dynamic" if you have a dynamic IP.  If you don't need any NAT, set NAT to
"" to
#disable it.

NAT=""
#change this next line so it lists all your network interfaces, including lo

INTERFACES="lo eth0 ppp0"

if [ "$1" = "start" ]
then
echo "Starting firewall..."
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -A INPUT -i ! ${UPLINK} -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i ${UPLINK} -j DROP
#for testing use:   REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -i ${UPLINK} -j DROP
#for testing use:   REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable

#   #explicitly disable ECN
#   if [ -e /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn ]
#   then
#   echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
#   fi   

#   #disable spoofing on all interfaces
#   for x in ${INTERFACES} 
#   do  
#   echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/${x}/rp_filter 
#   done

if [ "$ROUTER" = "yes" ]
then
#we're a router of some kind, enable IP forwarding
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
if [ "$NAT" = "dynamic" ]
then
#dynamic IP address, use masquerading   
echo "Enabling masquerading (dynamic ip)..."
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ${UPLINK} -j
MASQUERADE
elif [ "$NAT" != "" ]
then
#static IP, use SNAT
echo "Enabling SNAT (static ip)..."
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ${UPLINK} -j SNAT
--to ${UPIP}
fi
fi


elif [ "$1" = "stop" ]
then
echo "Stopping firewall..."
iptables -F INPUT
iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT
#turn off NAT/masquerading, if any
iptables -t nat -F POSTROUTING
fi 


nmap shows me that it works okay, but of course that's only on eth0, which
is the only NIC on this box and connects to an ADSL hardware router.

No matter what I tried I have not managed to make the script work for the
ppp0 interface.  Am I supposed to duplicate all the iptables lines and
define ppp0 instead of eth0?  Is there a clever modification I could used
on the above script to get the same result?

On a different but broadly relevant topic - are there any specific sysctl
and iptables settings I need to get google talk/gaim/kopete working?
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[gentoo-user] Re: chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-22 Thread Mick
John Jolet wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 2/22/06 5:03 PM, "Bo Andresen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I have just purchased a new computer with a AMD Semphron 2800+ 64 bit
>> processor. I am installing it following the gentoo handbook of the amd64
>> architecture - only I am using the x86 minimal livecd (2005-r1) and the
>> stage3-amd64-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2 tarball. Shouldn that be a problem?
>> 
>> When I get to step 6a (chrooting)
>>
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_cha
>> p1
>> I get the following error:
>> 
>> livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
>> chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error
> I've seen that when chrooting into 64-bit environment from a 32-bit
> kernel.
> You cannot boot from the x86 minimal and use an amd64 stage file.  You
> need the amd64 boot cd.
>> 
>> I did use LVM2 for partitioning but other than that I have followed the
>> handbook very throughly. I hope someone has a solution.  Please feel free
>> to ask for any information that may be helpful.
> 
At the same time when you run a command you need to type the path to it
correctly.  In this case the path is preceded by /, as in:

/bin/bash


You really need to double check commands before you hit return as it is easy
to miss a character and the whole sequence goes to pot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-22 Thread Boris Fersing
2006/2/23, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi
>
Hi,

> I have just purchased a new computer with a AMD Semphron 2800+ 64 bit
> processor. I am installing it following the gentoo handbook of the amd64
> architecture - only I am using the x86 minimal livecd (2005-r1) and the
> stage3-amd64-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2 tarball. Shouldn that be a problem?
>
> When I get to step 6a (chrooting)
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_chap1
> I get the following error:
>
> livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
> chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

You'll have to boot on a 64bits liveCD if you want to chroot into a
64bits environment.

Regards,

Boris.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Lance Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looking at the wordpress ebuild file, I do not see any reason for it to
> have a dependency on xterm.  I'm probably missing something simple, but
> I just don't see it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

wordpress depends on virtual/httpd-php, which for the current x86
profile defaults to dev-lang/php, which inherits the php5_0-sapi
eclass (or php5_1-sapi if you accept ~x86), which contains:

   xpm? ( || ( x11-libs/libXpm virtual/x11 ) )

So if you have USE=xpm, this drags in either x11-libs/libXpm or
virtual/x11, but libXpm is still hard masked.  So you end up depending
on virtual/x11, which is satisfied currently by xorg-x11-6.8, which
requires xterm.  Simple enough?? ;->

Try with USE=-xpm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-22 Thread John Jolet



On 2/22/06 5:03 PM, "Bo Andresen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I have just purchased a new computer with a AMD Semphron 2800+ 64 bit
> processor. I am installing it following the gentoo handbook of the amd64
> architecture - only I am using the x86 minimal livecd (2005-r1) and the
> stage3-amd64-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2 tarball. Shouldn that be a problem?
> 
> When I get to step 6a (chrooting)
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_cha
> p1 
> I get the following error:
> 
> livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
> chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error
I've seen that when chrooting into 64-bit environment from a 32-bit kernel.
You cannot boot from the x86 minimal and use an amd64 stage file.  You need
the amd64 boot cd.
> 
> I did use LVM2 for partitioning but other than that I have followed the
> handbook very throughly. I hope someone has a solution.  Please feel free to
> ask for any information that may be helpful.


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[gentoo-user] TARPIT iptables target

2006-02-22 Thread Dave Jones
Hi,

I was reading about the TARPIT target in the man iptables documentation,
and thought I'd like to give it a try.  Unfortunately though, it seems
not to be supported in the 2.6.15-1 Gentoo kernel.

Has anyone used the TARPIT target, or know of a way to get it into the
current kernel?  Any experience with this target or 'gotchas' about it?

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 16:53, Thierry de Coulon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with 
masked packages?':
> On Wednesday 22 February 2006 23.12, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > In my case, the funny thing is: DVDRIP is not masked and does not
> > > work. Acidrip is masked and works like a charm.
> >
> > Is the DVD:Rip ebuild doing something incorrectly, or is it just a
> > poor package from upstream?  In the former case, please file a bug at
> > bugs.gentoo.org.  In the latter, a bug can be filed, but it's more
> > likely to get attention in upstream rather than at bugs.gentoo.org.
>
> I had to emerge with -gnome because of a compile problem with
> gnome-print. Now I can start dvdrip but it remains stuck at scanning the
> transcode codecs...

Yeah, if the compile fails that's a gentoo bug, so I'll send you off to 
bugs.gentoo.org.  (You can also stick around and we /might/ be able to 
help.)  It's always a bug if a stable ebuild doesn't install properly 
(unless there's an appropriate error message from portage that tells you 
what you did wrong, or if some testing package is interferring.)

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[gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-22 Thread Bo Andresen
Hi

I have just purchased a new computer with a AMD Semphron 2800+ 64 bit 
processor. I am installing it following the gentoo handbook of the amd64 
architecture - only I am using the x86 minimal livecd (2005-r1) and the 
stage3-amd64-2005.1-r1.tar.bz2 tarball. Shouldn that be a problem?

When I get to step 6a (chrooting) 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6#doc_chap1
 
I get the following error:

livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

I did use LVM2 for partitioning but other than that I have followed the 
handbook very throughly. I hope someone has a solution.  Please feel free to 
ask for any information that may be helpful.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 16:40 -0500, Lance Jacobs wrote:
> I am trying to install wordpress on a machine that will become a server
> in a rack in a datacenter, so it does not need (nor do I want) X11 on
> it.  Right now, emerge is happy:
[snip]
> If I try to install wordpress, it wants to bring xterm, and therefore
> X11, with it:
> 
> [gromit ~ #] emerge -uDptv wordpress

hang on, that's "upgrading" wordpress, not installing it.  Try either
$ emerge -pvt wordpress
or
$ emerge -uDptv world
without wordpress, to see just where the xterm dep is coming in...

> These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  N] www-apps/wordpress-2.0.1  +vhosts 0 kB
> [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-207  -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype 
> -unicode 0 kB

It appears xterm isn't a dep of wordpress, but emerge is just trying to
install it anyway.

If you're building a server, try setting your use flags to "-X -gnome
-kde -qt -gtk" etc, and try again.

> If I install wordpress without the -D option, any subsequent emerge with
> the -D option then wants to pull in xterm and all of that other stuff.

absolutely.  Leaving out -D isn't a fix, just a workaround...

> Looking at the wordpress ebuild file, I do not see any reason for it to
> have a dependency on xterm.  I'm probably missing something simple, but
> I just don't see it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I didn't see it either.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] tcltk weird behaviour

2006-02-22 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi,

don't know about tcl/tk...

On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 10:42 +0200, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> 
> i don't know when it happened i noticed this 2 days ago i rememrged
> python with tcltk useflag it didnt' seem to solve anything

did you re-emerge tk?

> i'm also having problems starting Mercury i think it's irrelated but i
> thought i'd post it maybe there's sth i missed
> 
> $ Mercury/Mercury
> awk: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory

hm, libdl.so is owned by glibc:

$ equery belongs `slocate libdl.so.2`
[ Searching for file(s) /lib/libdl.so.2 in *... ]
sys-libs/glibc-2.3.6-r3 (/lib/libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.3.6.so)

Did you upgrade glibc recently?  Are you using ~x86?  Try running
revdep-rebuild (don't know if it will help, but I think this is what
it's meant for :)

> Note the mercury isnt' installed with portage if that would matter

ahh, maybe you should recompile it.

I'm kindof stabbing in the dark, but HTH anyway!
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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 23.12, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

> > In my case, the funny thing is: DVDRIP is not masked and does not work.
> > Acidrip is masked and works like a charm.
>
> Is the DVD:Rip ebuild doing something incorrectly, or is it just a poor
> package from upstream?  In the former case, please file a bug at
> bugs.gentoo.org.  In the latter, a bug can be filed, but it's more likely
> to get attention in upstream rather than at bugs.gentoo.org.

I had to emerge with -gnome because of a compile problem with gnome-print. Now 
I can start dvdrip but it remains stuck at scanning the transcode codecs...

I had no time yet to investigate further. I'll take a look at ANDREW.

Thierry

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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-22 Thread Bo Andresen
On Saturday 18 February 2006 17:02, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Do an 'eix x11-drm' and see it lists a 20051223 version, keyword
> masked.  (If you don't have eix, first run 'emerge eix' and
> 'update-eix'.)  So do
>
>   echo "x11-base/x11-drm ~x86" >>/etc/portage/package.keywords
>
> and 'emerge x11-drm'.

Well, I did try both x86 (20050502) and ~x86 (20051223). In fact at first the 
x86 didn't compile so I installed ~x86 and I thought I had ~x86 listed in the 
origal post. But apparently it did succeed at some point and I forgot to put 
~x86 in /etc/portage/package.keywords (one of the very few times I've 
installed a package with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line...).  Anyway 
neither gave me working hardware acceleration. :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Dave Nebinger

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:


I hate how emerge / portage calls a missing keyword "masked".  It's really 
not the same thing as being in package.mask (so called "hard-masked").

[snip]
Right now, we see package.mask, -*, and sometimes even ~ARCH being used to 
indicate instability from upstream.  For example, the gcc-4.1 ebuilds work 
perfectly, yet are marked -*.  As another example, there was a bit of time 
when the KDE 3.5_beta2 ebuilds worked fine (and were ~ARCH) but they were 
package.mask'ed.


Unfortunately we are in such a state that you don't really know if a 
soft-masked package is soft-masked because the ebuild is unstable or 
whether the package itself is as yet considered unstable; I don't think 
the soft-masking is used in a consistent way even though the gentoo devs 
 might believe it is.


With hard-masked packages it's pretty clear that you shouldn't use them 
unless you *really* know what you're doing.


But with soft-masked packages it's not as clear.  Even if it were the 
case that soft-masking indicates only ebuild instability, the ebuild 
controls how the package is compiled, installed, configured...  A bad 
ebuild could really mess up your system even if the package itself has 
no problems.


The handbook clearly suggests that you should avoid even soft-masked 
packages for production systems, although we would all be able to say 
where we've used a soft-masked package with no issues.


Recently there was a thread going on about a user with a soft-masked 
glibc and a problem with "mdns off" in /etc/host.conf; glibc is such a 
critical system component, imagine what you'd need to do if the 
soft-masked glibc resulted in a corrupt library, the core library that 
all of your system components use in one fashion or another.  No boot, 
no shell, no command execution, no remote access to fix, etc.  You're 
left booting from a recovery disk to try to either restore from your 
latest backup (if you're making backups) or rebuilding components trying 
to get the system back to a workable state.


To that end, you should consider the consequences of using those 
soft-masked packages and whether you're willing to deal with them in the 
face of failures.



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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-22 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 17 February 2006 12:20, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> havn't tried it since i have a newer unspoorted ship (X300SE)
> but try this guide here
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers

I'll try that howto when I get some time... Thanks.

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[gentoo-user] RE: Re: X without console log window?

2006-02-22 Thread Mick
Michael Kintzios wrote:

> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 16 February 2006 11:55
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:49 +
>> Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> > I don't know if I am asking too much here, but is there a way to:
>> > 1. Continue with all messages shown in tty12 as per default
>> syslog-ng
>> > configuration.
>> > 2. Also show all/some messages to xconsole.
>> > 3. Do not pipe everything to console during/after boot - the default
>> > messages there are adequate for my liking.
>> > 
>> > Perhaps I am a bit confused: what is the relationship
>> between /dev/console
>> > and xconsole?
>> 
>> Ah, the xconsole program man page explains it: By default, xconsole
>> reads from /dev/console. I didn't knew that.
>> 
>> What you want to archieve is more like the solution debian uses. I'll
>> post it here but I haven't tried it out so I cannot promise that it
>> works:
>> 
>> syslog-ng.conf:
>> ---snip---
>> destination xconsole { pipe("/dev/xconsole"); };
>> destination terminal { file("/dev/tty12"); };
>> log { source(src); destination(xconsole); }
>> log { source(src); destination(terminal); }
>> ---snip---
>> 
>> /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0:
>> ---snip---
>> xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn
>> fixed -exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole
>> ---snip---
>> 
>> That should do what you want to archieve.
>> Nice alternative to xconsole is root-tail...
> 
> I've played around with your suggestions but had no joy with them.
> Syslog-ng came up with many errors and although I tried different
> combinations I couldn't get it to work.
> 
> Root-tail is cool but it gets covered up by different windows.  Do you
> launch it as a default by entering a line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 ?

 
OK, I managed to spend some time looking into this.  For those who are still
watching this thread this is what I now have working happily:


# under my destination settings:
destination xconsole { pipe("/dev/xconsole"); };
destination console { file("/dev/console"); };

# under my filter settings:
filter f_info { level(info); };
filter f_notice { level(notice); };
filter f_warn { level(warn); };
filter f_crit { level(crit); };
filter f_err { level(err); };
filter f_failed { match("failed"); };
filter f_denied { match("denied"); };

# under my log settings:
log { source(src); filter(f_emergency); destination(console); };
log { source(src); filter (f_warn); destination(console); };
log { source(src); filter (f_err); destination(console); };
log { source(src); filter (f_crit); destination(console); };
log { source(src); filter (f_notice); destination(console); };
log { source(src); filter (f_failed); destination(console); };
log { source(src); filter (f_denied); destination(console); };


You can modify the above to change verbosity or amount of messages that
xconsole spews at you.  tty12 stills logs everything as per default
settings.

I've also added a bit of colour in the default blunt xterm used by xconsole,
just by editing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0:

xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -fg green -bg black -daemon -notify -verbose
-fn fixed -exitOnFail


I hope this helps someone (besides me of course ;-).

Thanks for your responses which got me thinking.
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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 14:38, Thierry de Coulon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with 
masked packages?':
> Thanks. Does not seem to me to be the best solution, though: if a
> package is masked, many users won't install it, so what's the absence of
> bug report indicating?

I hate how emerge / portage calls a missing keyword "masked".  It's really 
not the same thing as being in package.mask (so called "hard-masked").  In 
package.mask there is something decidedly broken, be it compatibility or 
otherwise.  But, there's often nothing wrong with testing besides being 
new.

~ARCH is testing, ARCH is stable.  It's like debian's 
stable/testing/unstable braches, but more fluid.  On gentoo, packages are 
generally moved from testing to stable individually, with batch moves 
reserved for suites (like KDE or Gnome) or packages with migration issues.

We have a number of users just on this mailing list that run testing 
systems all day long.  We encounter more bugs than stable users, but 
that's alright because we /want/ to test things, and have no fear of 
submitting a bug.  Now, if you want to fire off automated 'emerge -u 
world's every night, I'd suggest staying away from testing.

So far, the system has mostly worked.  I *would* like to see some changes, 
but mainly due to the fact that ~ARCH and package.mask are used for two 
purposes right now.  See  below.

> In my case, the funny thing is: DVDRIP is not masked and does not work.
> Acidrip is masked and works like a charm.

Is the DVD:Rip ebuild doing something incorrectly, or is it just a poor 
package from upstream?  In the former case, please file a bug at 
bugs.gentoo.org.  In the latter, a bug can be filed, but it's more likely 
to get attention in upstream rather than at bugs.gentoo.org.

I'm not sure /exactly/ what you want from your ripping program, but I'd 
check out ANDREW (ANDREW's Not a DVD Ripping and Encoding Wizard) from the 
FSF.  Sooner or later I'm gonna write an ebuild for that sucka.

(Only my rant and .sig follow, so no need to scroll if you don't want my 
opinion.)


Right now, we see package.mask, -*, and sometimes even ~ARCH being used to 
indicate instability from upstream.  For example, the gcc-4.1 ebuilds work 
perfectly, yet are marked -*.  As another example, there was a bit of time 
when the KDE 3.5_beta2 ebuilds worked fine (and were ~ARCH) but they were 
package.mask'ed.

>From what I understand this is incorrect.  package.mask, -*, and the ~ARCH 
(and occasionally, -ARCH) keywords are supposed to indicate the /ebuild/'s 
stability, not the upstream stability.

The problem is, we can't simply drop the practice of package.mask or -*'ing 
things like gcc-4.1 or beta versions of a DE that a good number of gentoo 
users work with everyday.  Too many systems would break if such ebuilds 
were marked STABLE with no indication that *you are installing software 
that might not work*.

What's really needed is a separate field indicating upstream 
classification, something similar to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS but indicating not 
the stability / behavior of the ebuild, but of the package from upstream.  
This would help both users (they can choose the test ebuilds, upstream, or 
both) and developers (they don't have to ever think "Was upstream broken 
or was the ebuild?" when they see a *-).  We could also do away with the 
perpetually masked cvs / - versions.

It would be something like ACCEPT_UPSTREAM="BETA" in make.conf where you 
might also have HEAD, SNAPSHOT, ALPHA, RELEASE_CANDIDATE, RELEASE, 
BUG_FIX, SECURITY_FIX instead of BETA; Also there would either be special 
logic for HEAD or an additional flag in the ebuild for "always upgrade, 
even to same version", but I suppose that's a different matter.

Of course, this would require significant work, and may not even be 
something the gentoo developers would be interested in. (The existing 
system seems to work OK, even if it's not ideal.)  But, that's my two 
cents, hopefully I won't feel the need to bore the entire mailing list 
with this again for a while.  (Or maybe I'll get off my digital butt and 
learn enough about portage to fix it myself, or at least file a GLEP)


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[gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-22 Thread Lance Jacobs

I am trying to install wordpress on a machine that will become a server
in a rack in a datacenter, so it does not need (nor do I want) X11 on
it.  Right now, emerge is happy:

   [gromit ~ #] emerge -uDptv world
   These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
   Calculating world dependencies ...done!
   Total size of downloads: 0 kB

If I try to install wordpress, it wants to bring xterm, and therefore
X11, with it:

   [gromit ~ #] emerge -uDptv wordpress
   These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
   Calculating dependencies ...done!
   [ebuild  N] www-apps/wordpress-2.0.1  +vhosts 0 kB
   [ebuild  N] x11-terms/xterm-207  -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype -unicode 
0 kB
   [ebuild  N]  sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6  0 kB
   [ebuild  N]   virtual/x11-6.8  0 kB
   [ebuild  N]x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6  -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts 
-cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal 
+mmx +nls -nocxx -opengl +pam -sdk +sse -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts 
(-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB
   Total size of downloads: 0 kB

If I install wordpress without the -D option, any subsequent emerge with
the -D option then wants to pull in xterm and all of that other stuff.

Looking at the wordpress ebuild file, I do not see any reason for it to
have a dependency on xterm.  I'm probably missing something simple, but
I just don't see it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Rafael Bugajewski
Thierry de Coulon wrote:

> Thanks. Does not seem to me to be the best solution, though: if a package
> is masked, many users won't install it, so what's the absence of bug report
> indicating?

You can also file a bug report that a package which you thing is stable is 
still masked. In this case a developer should examine the requested package a 
little bit deeper.


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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 13:55, Thierry de Coulon 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] What happens with masked 
packages?':
> I'm running an amd64 Gentoo (but this is not a specific amd64 question)
> and have installed a few ~amd64 masked packages - and some work amzingly
> well.

Glad to hear it.  I run entirely ~amd64 on my desktop and things work like 
a charm.

> So I googled for information as to where I might report success, so that
> they might be unmasked, but didn't find that info.

No need to report success.  If the maintainer is happy with the ebuild and 
there are no bugs filed for 30 days (or is it 90?) the package will be 
moved from testing (~arch) to stable (arch).

Remember that these keywords are (generally) for the ebuild, and doesn't 
indicate how well the product provided by upstream works.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window?

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


> -Original Message-
> From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 16 February 2006 11:55
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:49 +
> Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I don't know if I am asking too much here, but is there a way to:
> > 1. Continue with all messages shown in tty12 as per default 
> syslog-ng
> > configuration.
> > 2. Also show all/some messages to xconsole.
> > 3. Do not pipe everything to console during/after boot - the default
> > messages there are adequate for my liking.
> > 
> > Perhaps I am a bit confused: what is the relationship 
> between /dev/console
> > and xconsole?
> 
> Ah, the xconsole program man page explains it: By default, xconsole
> reads from /dev/console. I didn't knew that.
> 
> What you want to archieve is more like the solution debian uses. I'll
> post it here but I haven't tried it out so I cannot promise that it
> works:
> 
> syslog-ng.conf:
> ---snip---
> destination xconsole { pipe("/dev/xconsole"); };
> destination terminal { file("/dev/tty12"); };
> log { source(src); destination(xconsole); }
> log { source(src); destination(terminal); }
> ---snip---
> 
> /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0:
> ---snip---
> xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn 
> fixed -exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole
> ---snip---
> 
> That should do what you want to archieve.
> Nice alternative to xconsole is root-tail...

I've played around with your suggestions but had no joy with them.
Syslog-ng came up with many errors and although I tried different
combinations I couldn't get it to work.

Root-tail is cool but it gets covered up by different windows.  Do you
launch it as a default by entering a line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 ?

Xconsole does what I want it to do, but I would also like to get tty12
printing all messages and ideally would like xconsole to be positioned
above the fluxbox toolbar (height wise).
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[gentoo-user] puzzled over why xrdb process hangs

2006-02-22 Thread James


Hello,

When I boot my laptop it starts up and boots the kde login screen.
When any user logs in, it gets to the third 'flashing icon' and hangs.
If I ssh into the system remotely, it's fine, it's the kde login sequence
that's hung.

quickly running 'top' I find the culprit:
krdb. I can kill it off and the sequence completes and the system is fine.

But 'eix xrdb' reveals:
x11-apps/xrdb
 Available versions:  [M]1.0.1
 Installed:   none


If it's not installed how can it be running (hung)?
I've tried all sorts of things to fix this and nothing
works, including revdep-rebuild...

ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 21.02, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> > Where - and how - should I report masked packages that work?
>
> You don't need to report success.  There are teams of folks who 'bless'
> the packages into unmasked status when they feel they are ready.
>
> Your lack of reporting a bug is an indication that there is nothing to
> block the package from being promoted.

Thanks. Does not seem to me to be the best solution, though: if a package is 
masked, many users won't install it, so what's the absence of bug report 
indicating?

In my case, the funny thing is: DVDRIP is not masked and does not work. 
Acidrip is masked and works like a charm.

Let's hope that the blessing folks find out.

Thierry

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 13:13, "Brandon Enright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] NTP problem':
> Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> I can't speak for others but my experience with pool.ntp.org has been
> very poor.  Some of the servers are close by and low latency and others
> are in far off lands.

I've never had a problem, but I use one of the geographic sub-pools.

> You may want to see if you can peer with a local university, military
> base, ISP, or company in addition to pool.ntp.org.  There is a lot to
> say for reliable average latency over your list of peers.  Adding a few
> more will really help out.

That's true.  Also, many ISPs run an NTP server and it's either poorly (or 
purposely not) advertised.  Check ntp. to see if it'll peer 
with you, since it'll probably be about as close as you can get network 
wise.  Heck, they don't advertise it (AFAICT) but the first upstream IP 
from my cable modem has an ntpd listening and you definitely can't get any 
closer than that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Dave Nebinger

Thierry de Coulon wrote:

Where - and how - should I report masked packages that work?


You don't need to report success.  There are teams of folks who 'bless' 
the packages into unmasked status when they feel they are ready.


Your lack of reporting a bug is an indication that there is nothing to 
block the package from being promoted.



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[gentoo-user] What happens with masked packages?

2006-02-22 Thread Thierry de Coulon
Hello,

I'm running an amd64 Gentoo (but this is not a specific amd64 question) and 
have installed a few ~amd64 masked packages - and some work amzingly well.

So I googled for information as to where I might report success, so that they 
might be unmasked, but didn't find that info.

Where - and how - should I report masked packages that work?

Thierry

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RE: [gentoo-user] NTP problem

2006-02-22 Thread Brandon Enright
Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> Brandon Enright wrote:
> 
> >
> > So from your output a couple issues stick out.  You're only peering with
> > one machine which generally doesn't work so well.  You're probably
> > better off just using ntpdate periodically if you are only going to
> > sample one server.
> >
> > Also, the delay on the server you are polling is over 200 ms.  I'm not
> > sure where ntp3.usv.ro is located but it is over 260ms for me too.  With
> > this high network delay, slight network jitter can make your clock think
> > it is way off.  Your machine thinks it is 7.3 ms off.  If you had more
> > servers to peer with and *much* lower average delay between those
> > servers your clock would stabilize.  As it stands now, you clock
> > probably won't ever stabilize because your network is the primary source
> > of uncertainty.
> >
> > For comparison, here is my ntpq -c rv output:
> >
> > assID=0 status=06f4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events,
> > event_peer/strat_chg,
> > version="ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 17 21:31:52 PDT 2005 (1)"?,
> > processor="i686", system="Linux/2.6.10-gentoo-r6", leap=00, stratum=2,
> > precision=-20, rootdelay=21.642, rootdispersion=41.662, peer=12542,
> > refid=132.249.20.88,
> > reftime=c7a70d4a.975935fc  Wed, Feb 22 2006 16:18:18.591, poll=10,
> > clock=0xc7a70dc0.a5847f56, state=4, offset=-0.007, frequency=-31.438,
> > noise=1.052, jitter=2.529, stability=3.132
> >
> > Notice my offset is pretty marginal and rootdelay is rather low.  If you
> > can get your root delay down you should see your offset and stability
> > improve.
> >
> > Brandon
> >
> 
> Well, overnight it only reset twice; - some improvement!
> 
> Here is my complete ntp.conf:
> 
> 
> # NOTES:
> #  - you should only have to update the server line below
> #  - if you start getting lines like 'restrict' and 'fudge'
> #and you didnt add them, AND you run dhcpcd on your
> #network interfaces, be sure to add '-Y -N' to the
> #dhcpcd_ethX variables in /etc/conf.d/net
> 
> # Name of the servers ntpd should sync with
> # Please respect the access policy as stated by the responsible person.
> #server ntp.example.tld iburst
> 
> server pool.ntp.org
> 
> ##
> # A list of available servers can be found here:
> # http://www.pool.ntp.org/
> # http://www.pool.ntp.org/#use
> # A good way to get servers for your machine is:
> # netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org
> ##
> 
> # you should not need to modify the following paths
> driftfile   /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
> 
> #server ntplocal.example.com prefer
> #server timeserver.example.org
> 
> # Warning: Using default NTP settings will leave your NTP
> # server accessible to all hosts on the Internet.
> 
> # If you want to deny all machines (including your own)
> # from accessing the NTP server, uncomment:
> #restrict default ignore
> 
> 
> # To deny other machines from changing the
> # configuration but allow localhost:
> restrict default nomodify nopeer
> restrict 127.0.0.1
> 
> 
> # To allow machines within your network to synchronize
> # their clocks with your server, but ensure they are
> # not allowed to configure the server or used as peers
> # to synchronize against, uncomment this line.
> #
> #restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify nopeer notrap
> ---
> 
> Notice I'm using pool.ntp.org. I thought that picked a random server.
> In any event, I restarted ntpd and it picked a different server.
> 
> ntpq -c peers is now:
> --
> 
> remote  refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
> ==
> 
> *Time2.Stupi.SE  .PPS   1 u   33   64  177  159.568   -4.188   5.881
> --
> 
> 
> We'll see how this works out.
> 
> Tony

I can't speak for others but my experience with pool.ntp.org has been very
poor.  Some of the servers are close by and low latency and others are in
far off lands.

You may want to see if you can peer with a local university, military base,
ISP, or company in addition to pool.ntp.org.  There is a lot to say for
reliable average latency over your list of peers.  Adding a few more will
really help out.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 12:38, "Anthony E. Caudel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem':
> Brandon Enright wrote:
> Well, overnight it only reset twice; - some improvement!
>
> Here is my complete ntp.conf:
> # Name of the servers ntpd should sync with
> # Please respect the access policy as stated by the responsible person.
> #server ntp.example.tld iburst
>
> server pool.ntp.org

This chooses a single random server from the pool to sync with, which is 
probably not /exactly/ what you want.

You have a few alternatives:
1) Change "server" to "servers".  Then, ntpd will use all the IPs 
associated with the domain name.  As part of the process of syncing it 
will invalidate peers that have long or volatile round-trip times.  It 
will, however, try to connect to 100s (IIRC) of IPs initially.

2) Use:
server 0.pool.ntp.org
server 1.pool.ntp.org
server 2.pool.ntp.org

In this case, the daemon will only use the first address from each domain 
name.  .pool.ntp.org (for n = 0-9, IIRC) resolves to the same addresses 
as pool.ntp.org, but the primary address you get back is different each 
time.  (I believe the . prefix is an attempt to prevent local caching, 
which would be a problem if you just repeated your server line 3 times.)

You'll get better times syncing off multiple servers because the daemon can 
use some statistics to remove some of the network latency issues.  
However, you could still get a "bad draw" and get 3 servers far away from 
you.

3) Follow this comment from *your* .conf file:
> # A good way to get servers for your machine is:
> # netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org

netselect is available from portage, and I think it's generally installed 
during your gentoo install as a dependency of mirrorselect.  In any case, 
you can use it to find 3 (or however many you want to use) servers close 
to you.

Unfortunately, with this method, if better peers are added to the pool, the 
network topology changes, or anything else to invalidate the quality of 
the peers you pick, ntpd won't be able to automagically pick better ones.

Also, for any of these options, you should note the geographic sub-pools 
that are available.  I use us.pool.ntp.org.  For (1) this will reduce the 
number of IPs initially connected to, for (2) it will increase the chance 
that you don't get a bad draw (because, generally, geographically closer 
is closer on the network), for (3) ... Well, actually for 3 you might as 
well pick the best ones from the entire pool.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem

2006-02-22 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Brandon Enright wrote:

> 
> So from your output a couple issues stick out.  You're only peering with
> one machine which generally doesn't work so well.  You're probably
> better off just using ntpdate periodically if you are only going to
> sample one server.
> 
> Also, the delay on the server you are polling is over 200 ms.  I'm not
> sure where ntp3.usv.ro is located but it is over 260ms for me too.  With
> this high network delay, slight network jitter can make your clock think
> it is way off.  Your machine thinks it is 7.3 ms off.  If you had more
> servers to peer with and *much* lower average delay between those
> servers your clock would stabilize.  As it stands now, you clock
> probably won't ever stabilize because your network is the primary source
> of uncertainty.
> 
> For comparison, here is my ntpq -c rv output:
> 
> assID=0 status=06f4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events,
> event_peer/strat_chg,
> version="ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 17 21:31:52 PDT 2005 (1)"?,
> processor="i686", system="Linux/2.6.10-gentoo-r6", leap=00, stratum=2,
> precision=-20, rootdelay=21.642, rootdispersion=41.662, peer=12542,
> refid=132.249.20.88,
> reftime=c7a70d4a.975935fc  Wed, Feb 22 2006 16:18:18.591, poll=10,
> clock=0xc7a70dc0.a5847f56, state=4, offset=-0.007, frequency=-31.438,
> noise=1.052, jitter=2.529, stability=3.132
> 
> Notice my offset is pretty marginal and rootdelay is rather low.  If you
> can get your root delay down you should see your offset and stability
> improve.
> 
> Brandon
> 

Well, overnight it only reset twice; - some improvement!

Here is my complete ntp.conf:


# NOTES:
#  - you should only have to update the server line below
#  - if you start getting lines like 'restrict' and 'fudge'
#and you didnt add them, AND you run dhcpcd on your
#network interfaces, be sure to add '-Y -N' to the
#dhcpcd_ethX variables in /etc/conf.d/net

# Name of the servers ntpd should sync with
# Please respect the access policy as stated by the responsible person.
#server ntp.example.tld iburst

server pool.ntp.org

##
# A list of available servers can be found here:
# http://www.pool.ntp.org/
# http://www.pool.ntp.org/#use
# A good way to get servers for your machine is:
# netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org
##

# you should not need to modify the following paths
driftfile   /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift

#server ntplocal.example.com prefer
#server timeserver.example.org

# Warning: Using default NTP settings will leave your NTP
# server accessible to all hosts on the Internet.

# If you want to deny all machines (including your own)
# from accessing the NTP server, uncomment:
#restrict default ignore


# To deny other machines from changing the
# configuration but allow localhost:
restrict default nomodify nopeer
restrict 127.0.0.1


# To allow machines within your network to synchronize
# their clocks with your server, but ensure they are
# not allowed to configure the server or used as peers
# to synchronize against, uncomment this line.
#
#restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify nopeer notrap
---

Notice I'm using pool.ntp.org. I thought that picked a random server.
In any event, I restarted ntpd and it picked a different server.

ntpq -c peers is now:
--
remote  refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
*Time2.Stupi.SE  .PPS   1 u   33   64  177  159.568   -4.188   5.881
--

We'll see how this works out.

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[gentoo-user] [OT] traffic shaping

2006-02-22 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

I am struggling with traffic shaping. I have ironed out most rough things but 
are stuck with one remaining issue.

It happens as soon as I enter any one of the following lines:

tc filter add dev eth2 parent 1: prio 2 handle 1 fw flowid 1:20
tc filter add dev eth2 parent 1: protocol ip prio 2 handle 1 fw flowid 1:20
tc filter add dev eth2 parent 1: prio 2 handle 1 fw classid 1:20
tc filter add dev eth2 parent 1: protocol ip prio 2 handle 1 fw classid 1:20

I then get the error message:
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
We have an error talking to the kernel

Prior experience suggests that a module is missing or not loaded. The question 
is: Which one? Or am I completely wrong in my assumption?

Any experts here to lend a brain cell? ;-)

Uwe
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem

2006-02-22 Thread Brandon Enright
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 02:41 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> Brandon Enright wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:32 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> > 
> >>My system was off about 10 days and when I turned it back on, I began
> >>getting these messages in my logwatch:
> >>
> >>"Time Reset
> >>   time stepped -0.133773
> >>   time stepped -0.662954
> >>   time stepped +0.271164
> >>   time stepped +0.461200
> >>   time stepped -0.787647
> >>
> >>
> >> Time Reset 25 times (total: -1.239782 s  average: -0.049591 s)
> >>
> >> **Unmatched Entries**
> >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3
> >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4
> >>
> >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4
> >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3
> >> Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123
> >> Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.100#123
> >> Listening on interface lo, 127.0.0.1#123
> >> kernel time sync status 0040"
> >>
> >>I rebooted thinking it needed to stabilize but it still gets them. I
> >>have ntp-client and ntpd both in the "default" runlevel.
> >>
> >>This seems like an awful high number of resets.  Much more than I used
> >>to get.
> >>
> >>Tony
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Those are some pretty big jumps.  What does "ntpq -c peers" and "ntpq -c
> > rv" output?  Also, what are the first few lines (the restrict entries)
> > of your ntp.conf?
> > 
> > Brandon
> > 
> ntpq -c peers:
> 
>   remote refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset jitter
> ==
> *ntp3.usv.ro .PPS.  1 u   70 1024  377  203.0807.338   1.485
> 
> ntpq -rv:
> 
> assID=0 status=06a4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 10 events, event_peer/strat_chg,
> version="ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec  8 09:35:31 CST 2005 (1)"?,
> processor="i686", system="Linux/2.6.15-gentoo-r1", leap=00, stratum=2,
> precision=-20, rootdelay=203.080, rootdispersion=34.319, peer=35268,
> refid=80.96.120.249,
> reftime=c7a69e5a.a3227d02  Wed, Feb 22 2006  2:24:58.637, poll=10,
> clock=0xc7a6a0b6.78a5bd94, state=4, offset=7.338, frequency=35.514,
> noise=2.162, jitter=0.891, stability=64.582
> 
> ntp.conf:
> 
> restrict default nomodify nopeer
> restrict 127.0.0.1
> 
> Tony


So from your output a couple issues stick out.  You're only peering with
one machine which generally doesn't work so well.  You're probably
better off just using ntpdate periodically if you are only going to
sample one server.

Also, the delay on the server you are polling is over 200 ms.  I'm not
sure where ntp3.usv.ro is located but it is over 260ms for me too.  With
this high network delay, slight network jitter can make your clock think
it is way off.  Your machine thinks it is 7.3 ms off.  If you had more
servers to peer with and *much* lower average delay between those
servers your clock would stabilize.  As it stands now, you clock
probably won't ever stabilize because your network is the primary source
of uncertainty.

For comparison, here is my ntpq -c rv output:

assID=0 status=06f4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events,
event_peer/strat_chg,
version="ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 17 21:31:52 PDT 2005 (1)"?,
processor="i686", system="Linux/2.6.10-gentoo-r6", leap=00, stratum=2,
precision=-20, rootdelay=21.642, rootdispersion=41.662, peer=12542,
refid=132.249.20.88,
reftime=c7a70d4a.975935fc  Wed, Feb 22 2006 16:18:18.591, poll=10,
clock=0xc7a70dc0.a5847f56, state=4, offset=-0.007, frequency=-31.438,
noise=1.052, jitter=2.529, stability=3.132

Notice my offset is pretty marginal and rootdelay is rather low.  If you
can get your root delay down you should see your offset and stability
improve.

Brandon

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[gentoo-user] Re: readline and inputrc

2006-02-22 Thread Harry Putnam
"Richard Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 2/22/06, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Anyone know why entries in ~/.inputrc (or for that matter)
>> /etc/inputrc are ignored in xterms?
>
> The .inputrc settings are part of the readline library, which is
> linked to bash.  So any place you are running bash should have
> readline capabilities.  Are you sure you are running bash in your
> xterms?

Yes,  I don't really use any other shells.  And just to make sure
typing echo $SHELL returns the expected /bin/bash.

But it turns out to be something of a false alarm.  I went on about my
business and in the course of things have closed several xterms and
later opened new ones.  Just now while preparing to respond to your
reply I discover the newer xterms all work as expected.

I happened to have logged clear out of X and back in so none of the
other batch are around to check what was happening.  It entirely
possible it was all user induced somehow.

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Re: [gentoo-user] readline and inputrc

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know why entries in ~/.inputrc (or for that matter)
> /etc/inputrc are ignored in xterms?

The .inputrc settings are part of the readline library, which is
linked to bash.  So any place you are running bash should have
readline capabilities.  Are you sure you are running bash in your
xterms?

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] RE: Digest of gentoo-user@gentoo.org issue 600 (35178-35227)

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Lehmann


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Digest of gentoo-user@gentoo.org issue 600 (35178-35227)

Topics (messages 35178 throught 35227):

[gentoo-user] Re: odd /dev/null beharvior
  35178 - James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  35179 - James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] alsactl store wont save alsamixer
  35180 - "Allan Spagnol Comar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] New printer setup - having trouble with CUPS [SOLVED]
  35181 - Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] tape drives and backups
  35182 - "Nick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] Problem emerging engage
  35184 - Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] [OT] What about a new file system subtree?
  35185 - David Mallwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] mime type experts / *.pps
  35186 - Abhay Kedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] Portage mirroring questions
  35187 - Devraj Mukherjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] got lprng?
  35188 - Glenn Enright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] xorg 7.0 emerge question
  35189 - Nagatoro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] xorg 7.0 emerge question
  35190 - Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync
  35192 - Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync
  35193 - "Julien Cabillot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] alsactl store wont save alsamixer
  35194 - Mattias Merilai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync
  35195 - "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] [OT] OS X admin book
  35196 - Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] alsactl store wont save alsamixer
  35197 - "Allan Spagnol Comar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] change eth0 to eth1 and viceversa
  35198 - "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] change eth0 to eth1 and viceversa
  35200 - Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] change eth0 to eth1 and viceversa
  35201 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Schuster)

[gentoo-user] open-Xchange
  35202 - Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] change eth0 to eth1 and viceversa
  35203 - "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] change eth0 to eth1 and viceversa
  35204 - "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] tape drives and backups
  35205 - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] etc/host.conf: line 24: bad command `mdns off'
  35206 - Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] dhcpcd error
  35207 - "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] xorg 7.0 emerge question
  35208 - Alec Shaner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] Re: dhcpcd error
  35209 - "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  35214 - "Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] NFS & LDAP client can't see directory.
  35210 - Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] tape drives and backups
  35211 - "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] xorg 7.0 emerge question
  35215 - Mrugesh Karnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] etc/host.conf: line 24: bad command `mdns off'
  35216 - Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] etc/host.conf: line 24: bad command `mdns off'
  35217 - Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] iptables: --state/--syn
  35218 - Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] etc/host.conf: line 24: bad command `mdns off'
  35219 - Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] coreutils downgrade problem
  35220 - "Ghaith Hachem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] coreutils downgrade problem
  35221 - "=?UTF-8?Q?Marko_Koci=C4=87?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] xorg 7.0 emerge question
  35222 - krgn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] mysql DB file
  35223 - "Nick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] Toshiba Laptop Issues
  35224 - Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] mysql DB file
  35225 - "Sarpy Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] Toshiba Laptop Issues
  35226 - krgn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[gentoo-user] mysql DB file
  35227 - "Daniel da Veiga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen settings

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Jerry Eastmanhouser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> settings.  I did mine manually a long long time ago, but I think you can use
> xorgconfig to detect most of your settings for you...if so...hopefully that
> will fix you up.

I would suggest instead "X -configure".  That should autodetect most
things, unlike xorgconfig which asks you a bunch of questions that
most users don't know the answers to.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] File-roller build bug

2006-02-22 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Darryl Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/libxml2mod.so: undefined
> symbol: xmlTextReaderGetParserColumnNumber

Looks like you need to run python-updater and/or revdep-rebuild.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Any auto-hiding panels with a bunch of dependancies?

2006-02-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 22 February 2006 06:58, Walter Dnes wrote:

and what is about kicker?
it can autohide - and if you have koffice installed, you should have covered 
most of its dependencies.
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Re: [gentoo-user] File-roller build bug

2006-02-22 Thread Bruno Lustosa
On 2/22/06, Darryl Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I am getting the following build error when I try to build file-roller that
> gnome
>  depends on.  Any clues on how to fix this?
>
>  import libxml2mod
>  ImportError:
> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/libxml2mod.so: undefined
> symbol: xmlTextReaderGetParserColumnNumber

Darryl, I remember getting this error some time ago.
It was caused by building some of its dependencies with -xml, IIRC.
Check your use flags, and its direct dependencies (libxml2? others?).

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[gentoo-user] File-roller build bug

2006-02-22 Thread Darryl Wagoner
Greetings,

I am getting the following build error when I try to build file-roller that gnome
depends on.  Any clues on how to fix this?

thanks



if [ -f "C/file-roller.xml" ]; then d="../"; else d="d/"; fi; \
(cd de/ && \
  `which xml2po` -e -p \
    "${d}de/de.po" \
    "${d}C/file-roller.xml" > file-roller.xml.tmp && \
    cp file-roller.xml.tmp file-roller.xml && rm -f file-roller.xml.tmp)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/xml2po", line 34, in ?
    import libxml2
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/libxml2.py", line 1, in ?
    import libxml2mod
ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/libxml2mod.so: undefined symbol: xmlTextReaderGetParserColumnNumber
make[2]: *** [de/file-roller.xml] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/file-roller-2.12.2/work/file-roller-2.12.2/help'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/file-roller-2.12.2/work/file-roller-2.12.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2
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Re: [gentoo-user] ufs

2006-02-22 Thread Arnau Bria Ramírez
El Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:55:46 +0100 (CET)
Sascha Lucas dijo:

thanks for reply!
 
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Arnau Bria Ramírez wrote:
> > I have a Solaris disk with Solari's ufs FS.
> > I found ufs support in my kernel, but I'm not sure if it's the same as 
> > Solari's
> > one (I'm not sure if solaris uses standards ufs fs).
> >
> > does anyone mounted a solaris ufs disk using ufs kernel's support?

> No not solaris but freebsd. Enable Solaris (x86) partition and Sun 
> partition tables support + ufs filesystem. Read MOUNT(8) about ufs options 
> (ufstype=sun or sunx86). Read 

sunx86? do you think if it's going to work with sparc? (I forgot to say
taht) disk comes from Sun Blade 1500... I think it should be just "sun" as it
does not specify architecture:

sun used in SunOS (Solaris)
supported as read-write

sunx86  used in SunOS for Intel (Solarisx86)
supported as read-write


> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt about ufs-write support. 
> It should work.
I tried it and it did not recognize partition table... now, after reading you
reply, I found partition table support for SunOS... going to recompile kernel
and test...

Thansk a lot!
> Sascha.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ufs

2006-02-22 Thread Sascha Lucas

On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Arnau Bria Ramírez wrote:

I have a Solaris disk with Solari's ufs FS.
I found ufs support in my kernel, but I'm not sure if it's the same as Solari's
one (I'm not sure if solaris uses standards ufs fs).

does anyone mounted a solaris ufs disk using ufs kernel's support?


No not solaris but freebsd. Enable Solaris (x86) partition and Sun 
partition tables support + ufs filesystem. Read MOUNT(8) about ufs options 
(ufstype=sun or sunx86). Read 
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt about ufs-write support. 
It should work.


Sascha.

Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 18:38, Aniruddha Shankar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync':
> That I can live with. It's the updating portage cache - especially the
> long wait at 50% that drags.

Go ~ for portage, I don't experience such a delay.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen settings

2006-02-22 Thread Jerry Eastmanhouser
Your xorg.conf file looks fine, but you don't have anything lower than 1024x768 specified in your configuration as indicated below.  You may have to recreate a new xorg.conf file with the correct monitor and driver settings.  I did mine manually a long long time ago, but I think you can use xorgconfig to detect most of your settings for you...if so...hopefully that will fix you up.

 
 
 
Section "Screen"    Identifier  "Screen 1"    Device  "video"    Monitor "2"    DefaultDepth 24    Subsection "Display"    Depth   8
    Modes   "1024x768"    ViewPort    0 0    EndSubsection    Subsection "Display"    Depth   16    Modes   "1280x1024"    ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection    Subsection "Display"    Depth   24    Modes   "1024x768"    ViewPort    0 0    EndSubsectionEndSection 
On 2/22/06, Rajat Gujral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,I am a newbie to gentoo enviorment. My system got restarted due to power failiure without getting shutdown properly... Now after rebooting my system, when i do "startx" to move to KDE the screen appers to be in resolution mode of "640 x 480" instead of "1024 x 768".
So my question is how can i change the screen resolution back to "1024 x 768". Herewith attached is a copy on my xorg.conf file .. Thanx to u in advance for helping me through with it Thnx & Warm Regards
Rajat


[gentoo-user] Screen settings

2006-02-22 Thread Rajat Gujral
Hi,

I am a newbie to gentoo enviorment. My system got restarted due to
power failiure without getting shutdown properly... Now after rebooting
my system, when i do "startx" to move to KDE the screen appers to be in
resolution mode of "640 x 480" instead of "1024 x 768".

So my question is how can i change the screen resolution back to "1024 x 768". 

Herewith attached is a copy on my xorg.conf file .. Thanx to u in advance for helping me through with it 

Thnx & Warm Regards

Rajat


xorg.conf
Description: Binary data


[gentoo-user] Re: readline and inputrc

2006-02-22 Thread Harry Putnam
"Anthony E. Caudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Anyone know why entries in ~/.inputrc (or for that matter)
>> /etc/inputrc are ignored in xterms?
>> 
>> I find that inputrc entries work in console mode but not in X.
>> 
>> Further, testing just now with a silly test entry:
>> 
>> cat ~/.inputrc:
>> 
>>   ## C-x C-r reread init files
>>   Control-o: "now what"
>> 
>> That even in console mode I get really bad behavior.
>> 
>> Ctrl-o inserts `now what' as expected but then I find that any
>> attempts thereafter to do some command like ls or whatever, when I
>> press  instead of running the command `ls'  I get
>> 
>> `lsnow what'  and the ls command doesn't fire  any press of 
>> prints `now what'.
>> 
>> I'm guessing some kind of conflict with keyboard settings but mine are
>> totally stock.  I've done no customizing in that area.
>> 
>> I'd be interested to here what others see when they use ~/.inputrc.
>> 
>> 
> They work fine for me under KDE's konsole.

Interesting... yes they do here too.  I greatly prefer working from
xterms though.  Just a matter of years of use.   

I suspect there is something I can set so that inputrc works in xterm
to, do you have any idea what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] readline and inputrc

2006-02-22 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Harry Putnam wrote:
> Anyone know why entries in ~/.inputrc (or for that matter)
> /etc/inputrc are ignored in xterms?
> 
> I find that inputrc entries work in console mode but not in X.
> 
> Further, testing just now with a silly test entry:
> 
> cat ~/.inputrc:
> 
>   ## C-x C-r reread init files
>   Control-o: "now what"
> 
> That even in console mode I get really bad behavior.
> 
> Ctrl-o inserts `now what' as expected but then I find that any
> attempts thereafter to do some command like ls or whatever, when I
> press  instead of running the command `ls'  I get
> 
> `lsnow what'  and the ls command doesn't fire  any press of 
> prints `now what'.
> 
> I'm guessing some kind of conflict with keyboard settings but mine are
> totally stock.  I've done no customizing in that area.
> 
> I'd be interested to here what others see when they use ~/.inputrc.
> 
> 
They work fine for me under KDE's konsole.

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[gentoo-user] tcltk weird behaviour

2006-02-22 Thread Ghaith Hachem
hello
i've recently noticed several apps failing to start

$ amsn
Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown
color name "Black"
Error in startup script: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"
(default value for "-highlightcolor" in widget ".")
invoked from within
"load /usr/lib/tk8.4/../libtk8.4.so Tk"
("package ifneeded" script)
invoked from within
"package require Tk"
(file "/usr/bin/amsn" line 46)


$ pysol
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/games/lib/pysol/pysol.py", line 121, in ?
sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
  File "/usr/games/lib/pysol/main.py", line 424, in main
r = pysol_main(args)
  File "/usr/games/lib/pysol/main.py", line 367, in pysol_main
r = pysol_init(app, args)
  File "/usr/games/lib/pysol/main.py", line 121, in pysol_init
top = MfxRoot(className=PACKAGE)
  File "/usr/games/lib/pysol/tk/tkwrap.py", line 75, in __init__
apply(Tkinter.Tk.__init__, (self,), kw)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk/Tkinter.py", line 1569, in __init__
self.tk = _tkinter.create(screenName, baseName, className,
interactive, wantobjects, useTk, sync, use)
__main__.TclError: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"




i don't know when it happened i noticed this 2 days ago i rememrged
python with tcltk useflag it didnt' seem to solve anything



i'm also having problems starting Mercury i think it's irrelated but i
thought i'd post it maybe there's sth i missed

$ Mercury/Mercury
awk: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
/bin/ls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
basename: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
/opt/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.03/bin/java: error while loading shared
libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory

Note the mercury isnt' installed with portage if that would matter



$ emerge -pv python tcl tk

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/python-2.4.2-r1  USE="X berkdb gdbm ipv6
ncurses readline ssl tcltk -bootstrap -build -doc -nocxx -ucs2" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/tcl-8.4.11-r1  USE="-threads" 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/tk-8.4.11-r1  USE="-threads" 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

thanks in advance
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Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem

2006-02-22 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Brandon Enright wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:32 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> 
>>My system was off about 10 days and when I turned it back on, I began
>>getting these messages in my logwatch:
>>
>>"Time Reset
>>   time stepped -0.133773
>>   time stepped -0.662954
>>   time stepped +0.271164
>>   time stepped +0.461200
>>   time stepped -0.787647
>>
>>
>> Time Reset 25 times (total: -1.239782 s  average: -0.049591 s)
>>
>> **Unmatched Entries**
>> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3
>> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4
>>
>> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4
>> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3
>> Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123
>> Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.100#123
>> Listening on interface lo, 127.0.0.1#123
>> kernel time sync status 0040"
>>
>>I rebooted thinking it needed to stabilize but it still gets them. I
>>have ntp-client and ntpd both in the "default" runlevel.
>>
>>This seems like an awful high number of resets.  Much more than I used
>>to get.
>>
>>Tony
> 
> 
> 
> Those are some pretty big jumps.  What does "ntpq -c peers" and "ntpq -c
> rv" output?  Also, what are the first few lines (the restrict entries)
> of your ntp.conf?
> 
> Brandon
> 
ntpq -c peers:

  remote refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset jitter
==
*ntp3.usv.ro .PPS.  1 u   70 1024  377  203.0807.338   1.485

ntpq -rv:

assID=0 status=06a4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 10 events, event_peer/strat_chg,
version="ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec  8 09:35:31 CST 2005 (1)"?,
processor="i686", system="Linux/2.6.15-gentoo-r1", leap=00, stratum=2,
precision=-20, rootdelay=203.080, rootdispersion=34.319, peer=35268,
refid=80.96.120.249,
reftime=c7a69e5a.a3227d02  Wed, Feb 22 2006  2:24:58.637, poll=10,
clock=0xc7a6a0b6.78a5bd94, state=4, offset=7.338, frequency=35.514,
noise=2.162, jitter=0.891, stability=64.582

ntp.conf:

restrict default nomodify nopeer
restrict 127.0.0.1

Tony
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[gentoo-user] readline and inputrc

2006-02-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Anyone know why entries in ~/.inputrc (or for that matter)
/etc/inputrc are ignored in xterms?

I find that inputrc entries work in console mode but not in X.

Further, testing just now with a silly test entry:

cat ~/.inputrc:

  ## C-x C-r reread init files
  Control-o: "now what"

That even in console mode I get really bad behavior.

Ctrl-o inserts `now what' as expected but then I find that any
attempts thereafter to do some command like ls or whatever, when I
press  instead of running the command `ls'  I get

`lsnow what'  and the ls command doesn't fire  any press of 
prints `now what'.

I'm guessing some kind of conflict with keyboard settings but mine are
totally stock.  I've done no customizing in that area.

I'd be interested to here what others see when they use ~/.inputrc.


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Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem

2006-02-22 Thread Brandon Enright
On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:32 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> My system was off about 10 days and when I turned it back on, I began
> getting these messages in my logwatch:
> 
> "Time Reset
>time stepped -0.133773
>time stepped -0.662954
>time stepped +0.271164
>time stepped +0.461200
>time stepped -0.787647
> 
> 
>  Time Reset 25 times (total: -1.239782 s  average: -0.049591 s)
> 
>  **Unmatched Entries**
>  synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3
>  synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4
> 
>  synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4
>  synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3
>  Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123
>  Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.100#123
>  Listening on interface lo, 127.0.0.1#123
>  kernel time sync status 0040"
> 
> I rebooted thinking it needed to stabilize but it still gets them. I
> have ntp-client and ntpd both in the "default" runlevel.
> 
> This seems like an awful high number of resets.  Much more than I used
> to get.
> 
> Tony


Those are some pretty big jumps.  What does "ntpq -c peers" and "ntpq -c
rv" output?  Also, what are the first few lines (the restrict entries)
of your ntp.conf?

Brandon

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