Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation annoyances
On Friday 23 February 2007, Walter Dnes wrote: > Thread re-named to reflect topic-drift > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 09:58:47AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > > > On the one hand, /usr/share/doc has been almost 2G big (!) at > > times, and otoh one can miss the really useful stuff > > I wouldn't mind terribly if it was actually usable. I'd like to be > able to bookmark the docs in my browser. Here's a list of what's > available to me, even with "-doc"... > > [m3000][waltdnes][~] find /usr/share/doc/ -name "index.html" > /usr/share/doc/freeglut-2.4.0/doc/index.html [snip] > /usr/share/doc/giflib-4.1.4/html/doc/index.html > > Guess what happens to the bookmarks next time there's a minor > version bump to any of those programs (e.g. when I update world)? I > suppose I should try to slap together a script that's run after > emerge. It would run the "find" command above, process the output, > and create a file ~/.docs.html with an unnumbered list of links to > the actual > documentation. Sounds like a plan. How about asking for a feature request in portage? Something like a "docsymlink" FEATURE which will create an unversioned symlink in /usr/share/doc in the install function. Something like this: ln -sfn /usr/share/doc/-1.2.3 /usr/share/doc/ Put the symlink in your bookmarks, not the actual file. If portage does it for you, then you don't have to do it manually with every update alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation annoyances
On Friday 23 February 2007, Zac Medico wrote: > That's the intended purpose of DOC_SYMLINKS_DIR which is documented > in `man make.conf` (new in portage-2.1.2). > > Zac That'll teach me to keep up to date with new portage features :-) I just recommended Walter to ask for this very thing sorry bout the noise alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Some miscellanous questions about hack attacks and dealing with them
Whenever I see someone trying the break in in the logsentry reports, I add their IP to the deny_hosts.conf file and restart ipkungfu so that the changes will take effect. maybe you want to have a look at sshdfilter http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~greg/sshdfilter/ jakob -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
On Thursday 22 February 2007 20:38:02 jcd wrote:
> I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8. I
> re-encoded several files and several filenames. But my man-pages are
> still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
> terminal emulator. I unmerged package (with local man pages
> 'app-i18n/man-pages-cs'), deleted distfile and again merged but it
> remained same. So I had uncompressed one local man page and looked into
> raw text and there it is all right. I tried to changed line in
> /etc/make.conf:
> Code:
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
>
> to
> Code:
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
>
> and also according to comments to
> Code:
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc.
>
> In both cases result was same. Also I have correct fonts for my language
> and unicode use flag defined.
This thing is covered by [1]. It goes to man.conf. Not make.conf.
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] Very bad system response
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 21:29, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: > Hi List, Hi Michael, Good to see yoou on the Gentoo list! :-) > I have a very strange thing here. I don't know when this started, but my > feeling is, that it was around kernel 2.6.15 and it's getting worse with > each version. > From time to time my system comes to a complete halt, that means not a > single application shows any response to mouse and/or keyactions, sshing > into it takes forever. After a while (up to ~30s ) normal reaction is back > again. Strange thing is, there is no activity at the times this happens. > Reading email and browsing the web is all that is needed. CPU is at 3-5% > according to top, mem has ~1GB free according to free. > I can somehow force this behaviour by doing some harddisc io, eg untaring a > kernel-tarball. But it does not happen everytime I do this. > This is really, really annoying. I have no idea, if this is a kernel, a FS > or any other issue. Any help with this is most welcome. > Some additional info: fs is xfs, kernel is 2.6.19-gentoo-r4 and I'm a > KDE-User, but this also happens with xfce4 ;) I had this problem back with older 2.6 kernels and the problem turned out to be caused by XFS. XFS is not a good choice for a desktop, as for my experience. I bet the problem will be gone once you switch to ReiserFS or ext3. > > Thanks, > Michael Cheers, Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ramfs - is it necessary ???
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:11:07 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > It does, I have a system that boots 2.6.20 using an initrd. It works > > fine and I don't feel inclined to get involved in initramfs voodoo > > just to change an already working system > > What is that "voodoo" you're talking about. I did boot my /-on-EVMS > system with an initrd for years, only to find out that initramfs is so > much easier to set up. If there's voodoo, it's in initrd. If I was starting from scratch, I'd use initramfs, but the initrd is already working and requires zero effort - if it ain't broke... -- Neil Bothwick Always be sincere even if you don't mean it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Gentoo way of handling pre-built kernels
Hi list, I have successfully deployed Gentoo on about 30 desktop PCs in a corporate environment. Now, as I need to update the kernel on those PCs, I wonder if there is a standard Gentoo way (maybe a script or something), that people are using to build and deploy binary kernel packages. Any ideas? Thanks, Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Some miscellanous questions about hack attacks and dealing with them
> -Original Message- > From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 February 2007 07:17 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Some miscellanous questions about hack > attacks and dealing with them > > > The problem is that php enables every kid and his dog to put an > interactive site up on the net. So, every kid and his dog > does. All the > while making coding mistakes that open holes. Forum software seems > especially prone. > > Apache and php_mod themselves are as safe as is reasonable, > at least I > haven't seen many weaknesses reported on those two packages. > To know if > you should be taking extra security precautions, watch for security > advisories about the php apps you have running > Forgive my ignorance if I'm incorrect - but I was told at one point by a friend who runs a few servers and sites that if an app wont run in PHP Safe Mode then he wont run it at all. http://us2.php.net/features.safe-mode I'm not a PHP expert by any means so I can't definitively say "use safe mode" but if people are looking to lock down a server it may be worth a peek. OT: Also, my name is "David Nelson" not "Nelson David". Don't blame me - it's a work email account and they have our names Surname, Forename all over the place. :P I've just seen people refer to me as "Nelson" sometimes ... ;-) -- djn I do not represent anyone else in emails I send to this list. ��í¢ï¿½z� ��(��&j)b� b�
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
By the time this thread ends, the dolphins will have died of old age, making the original point moot ;-) -- Neil Bothwick All wight - Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo way of handling pre-built kernels
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:42:17 +0100, Robert Szentmihalyi wrote: > I have successfully deployed Gentoo on about 30 desktop PCs in a > corporate environment. > Now, as I need to update the kernel on those PCs, I wonder if there is > a standard Gentoo way (maybe a script or something), that people are > using to build and deploy binary kernel packages. kernels are handled differently, even if you built a package with --buildpkg or quickpkg, only the source would be included. If the systems are identical, what's wrong with simply packaging up the relevant contents of /boot and /lib/modules? Even better, if the machines are all networked, push the changes out with rsync then use tentakel (or a for loop) to reboot each box. You could also put this in an update script on each of the boxes then use tentakel to run it on some or all of them. tentakel (in portage) is a handy way of running the same command on a group of machines, and you can set up named groups and subgroups to make life even easier. -- Neil Bothwick I'm not tense, just terribly alert! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo way of handling pre-built kernels
On Friday 23 February 2007, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo way of handling pre-built kernels': > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:42:17 +0100, Robert Szentmihalyi wrote: > > I have successfully deployed Gentoo on about 30 desktop PCs in a > > corporate environment. > > Now, as I need to update the kernel on those PCs, I wonder if there is > > a standard Gentoo way (maybe a script or something), that people are > > using to build and deploy binary kernel packages. > > Even better, if the > machines are all networked, push the changes out with rsync then use > tentakel (or a for loop) to reboot each box. Or, push the kernel (with included initramfs) out via netboot, and after mounting the root filesystem, copy the modules into place. If you have a large number of modules (too big to fit inside the kernel image), push them with rsync (or similar) to the client machines, either from within the initramfs or with an initscript that starts before any others. > You could also put this in an update script on each of the boxes then > use tentakel to run it on some or all of them. tentakel (in portage) is > a handy way of running the same command on a group of machines, and you > can set up named groups and subgroups to make life even easier. Never used tentakel, but IIRC there's another parallel-shell tools available that works over rsh/rlogin/ssh called psh. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp1D4cJ4NM6j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
> > On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >
> > about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
> >> Hi.
> >> I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
> >> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
> >> But my man-pages are
> >> still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
> >> terminal emulator.
> >>
> >> I tried to changed line in
> >> /etc/make.conf:
> >> Code:
> >> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
> >> to
> >> Code:
> >> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
> >
> > 1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally,
you'd
> > use something like:
> > VARIABLE="value"
> >
> > 2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5)
manpage
> > for a list of valid make.conf variables.
> >
> > I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
> > likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
> > portage configuration files.
>
> OK. If it isn't correct format and NROFF isn't valid variable, then it is
> bug in gentoo package, because I just changed the parameters to
> /usr/bin/nroff. I also didn't find any suitale USE flag.
It's possible that you need to add this variable to some file
under /etc/env.d, or perhaps add a global alias and/or function
in /etc/profile.d, or maybe an nroff or man or other package configuration
file. I suppose make.conf could be used, but I'm fairly certain those
variables aren't guaranteed to filter down to any subprocesses -- they are
only meant to affect the behavior of ebuilds.
In /etc/env.d or /etc/make.conf you'll use the VARIABLE="value" syntax.
In /etc/profile.d anything bash can handle will work. For another
configuration file, it might be totally different.
In any case, most packages don't provide a generic way to modify their
default
parameters (via environment variables or anything else), and I would guess
that setting the NROFF variable to some value wouldn't actually change the
way the nroff binary worked (but it could!).
It could very well be a bug but, you are going to have to be more specific
about the behavior you are trying to achieve with that "make.conf" setting.
Feel free to file at b.g.o. if you think this is a failing of the package
or
the portage system.
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
Neil Bothwick wrote: > By the time this thread ends, the dolphins will have died of old age, > making the original point moot ;-) > > > If I had the money, I would go KILL all of them just to end this thread. This doesn't even concern computers much less Linux. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
> On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
>> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
>>> On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>>>
>>> about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
Hi.
I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
But my man-pages are
still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console even in X
terminal emulator.
I tried to changed line in
/etc/make.conf:
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
>
> I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
>
to
Code:
NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc
>>> 1) Those lines aren't the correct format for make.conf. Normally,
> you'd
>>> use something like:
>>> VARIABLE="value"
>>>
>>> 2) NROFF isn't a valid make.conf variable. See the make.conf(5)
> manpage
>>> for a list of valid make.conf variables.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but I think it's more
>>> likely controlled by an nroff USE flag or configuration file than a
>>> portage configuration files.
>> OK. If it isn't correct format and NROFF isn't valid variable, then it is
>> bug in gentoo package, because I just changed the parameters to
>> /usr/bin/nroff. I also didn't find any suitale USE flag.
>
> It's possible that you need to add this variable to some file
> under /etc/env.d, or perhaps add a global alias and/or function
> in /etc/profile.d, or maybe an nroff or man or other package configuration
> file. I suppose make.conf could be used, but I'm fairly certain those
> variables aren't guaranteed to filter down to any subprocesses -- they are
> only meant to affect the behavior of ebuilds.
>
> In /etc/env.d or /etc/make.conf you'll use the VARIABLE="value" syntax.
> In /etc/profile.d anything bash can handle will work. For another
> configuration file, it might be totally different.
>
> In any case, most packages don't provide a generic way to modify their
> default
> parameters (via environment variables or anything else), and I would guess
> that setting the NROFF variable to some value wouldn't actually change the
> way the nroff binary worked (but it could!).
>
> It could very well be a bug but, you are going to have to be more specific
> about the behavior you are trying to achieve with that "make.conf" setting.
> Feel free to file at b.g.o. if you think this is a failing of the package
> or
> the portage system.
>
I just confused man.conf with make.conf... I meant man.conf in all messages.
Sorry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hi,
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:27:08 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
> > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
> > > On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > >
> > > about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
> > >> Hi.
> > >> I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
> > >> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
> > >> But my man-pages are
> > >> still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console
> > >> even in X terminal emulator.
> > >>
> > >> I tried to changed line in
> > >> /etc/make.conf:
> > >> Code:
> > >> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
>
> I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
No, the poster most definitely meant to write man.conf instead of
make.conf.
That would be correct.
But his output looks like he already gets UTF-8 out of "man". He just
borked his terminal settings or is running a non-Unicode terminal.
Otherwise, there would just be one glyph for an unrecognized code
sequence, plus probably the following char being eaten.
So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set
consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a
unicode-aware terminal program.
-hwh
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[gentoo-user] Wine and Cedega at the same time
Dear Gentoo users, I have a question about Win32 emulation. I'm using Wine (0.9.31 ~x86 in Portage) for mIRC and uTorrent usage. It works flawlessly. Today I bought a new video card (nvidia 6600) for gaming. With this card, everything is OK. My question: is it possible to have Wine and Cedega installed on the same system? I know Cedega is great for games and Wine is great for desktop applications (like those above.) I installed Warcraft III ROC in Wine. Works, but 3D is not very fast, sound have lag. My OpenGL system works flawlessly, I played Enemy Territory with full graphics, with full FPS. Thanks in advance. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
On Friday 23 February 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: > By the time this thread ends, the dolphins will have died of old age, > making the original point moot ;-) Not if they don't all vanish in a puff of smoke just before the Vogons get here, leaving behind a note that says "So long and thanks for all the fish". Besides, I think the second most intelligent life form on the planet has already figured out how to deal with this onslaut from the third most intelligent life form on the planet. alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, Aggelos wrote: > www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin > > www.petitiononline.com/golfinho For the amusement of all Gentooite's who watched this thread and wondered what planet Aggelos comes from: He's about to get his just rewards: He just posted the same thing to lkml I fear for the man, I really do. alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:34:44 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Besides, I think the second most intelligent life form on the planet > has already figured out how to deal with this onslaut from the third > most intelligent life form on the planet. By spamming mailing lists so that we're all too busy arguing over it to have time to kill them? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick "You summoned me, Captain?!" said Earl Grey, hotly. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a):
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:27:08 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 22 February 2007 23:14, paulie.x wrote:
>>> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napsal(a):
On Thursday 22 February 2007, jcd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
about '[gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding':
> Hi.
> I converted my system to UNICODE with assistance
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Make_your_system_use_unicode/utf-8.
> But my man-pages are
> still displayed with bad characters ('á' is 'á') in console
> even in X terminal emulator.
>
> I tried to changed line in
> /etc/make.conf:
> Code:
> NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc
>> I don't have a line that looks anything like that in my make.conf
>
> No, the poster most definitely meant to write man.conf instead of
> make.conf.
>
> That would be correct.
>
> But his output looks like he already gets UTF-8 out of "man". He just
> borked his terminal settings or is running a non-Unicode terminal.
> Otherwise, there would just be one glyph for an unrecognized code
> sequence, plus probably the following char being eaten.
>
> So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set
> consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a
> unicode-aware terminal program.
>
> -hwh
It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. Just man pages
are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local man page and viewed
raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can see correct UNICODE
characters (among format sequences). Also in
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/utf-8.xml is defined approach how to update
man.conf to work with UNICODE (changing "NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c
-mandoc" to "NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc"). I already tried it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
Neil Bothwick wrote this: > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:34:44 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Besides, I think the second most intelligent life form on the planet >> has already figured out how to deal with this onslaut from the third >> most intelligent life form on the planet. > > By spamming mailing lists so that we're all too busy arguing over it to > have time to kill them? ;-) > > Would Anggelos be a dolphin ? begin:vcard fn:Rodrigo Forlin n:Forlin;Rodrigo email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:+551194952922 note;quoted-printable:Linux registered user # 226673=0D=0A= http://counter.li.org/ x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hi, On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set > > consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a > > unicode-aware terminal program. > > It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. > Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local > man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can > see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences). Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use "nroff -mandoc" without -T option for utf-8 output. Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
> -Original Message- > From: Rodrigo Forlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 23 February 2007 13:19 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan > > > Neil Bothwick wrote this: > > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:34:44 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > >> Besides, I think the second most intelligent life form on > the planet > >> has already figured out how to deal with this onslaut from > the third > >> most intelligent life form on the planet. > > > > By spamming mailing lists so that we're all too busy > arguing over it to > > have time to kill them? ;-) > > > > > Would Anggelos be a dolphin ? > Well... dolphins are supposed to be pretty smart but can they post to mailing lists? On the other hand perhaps they are so smart they dont *need* mailing lists and if they did they wouldn't post "save the pretty human" spam. -- djn I do not represent anyone else in emails I send to this list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
Everyone had showed so much insensitivity that you make me absolutely sick. If the OP is spam, why did all of you reply to it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
On Friday 23 February 2007 14:19:21 Rodrigo Forlin wrote: > >> Besides, I think the second most intelligent life form on the planet > >> has already figured out how to deal with this onslaut from the third > >> most intelligent life form on the planet. > > > > By spamming mailing lists so that we're all too busy arguing over it to > > have time to kill them? ;-) > > Would Anggelos be a dolphin ? Noope.. missing the point. There's more than one human life form on the planet... -- Bo Andresen pgpTODRTY2ait.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:43:15 -, Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\) wrote: > Well... dolphins are supposed to be pretty smart but can they post to > mailing lists? Dolphins are far smarter than humans, which is why not a single dolphin has bought Vista :) -- Neil Bothwick Anything is good and useful if it's made of chocolate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Please, Stop the Dolphin Massacre Thread!
Subject says it all. Come on folks let's keep it on subject. Please keep the number of replies to this down. Seriously, please, stop responding to that thread. -- "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wine and Cedega at the same time
On Friday 23 February 2007 13:29:57 Gyuszk wrote: > My question: is it possible to have Wine and Cedega installed on the same > system? Sure. They don't collide in any way. One uses .wine the other .cedega... Just emerge both. In the future do not hijack threads by replying and changing the subject. Instead compose a new mail. -- Bo Andresen pgprGxkD6qC0S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Everyone had showed so much insensitivity that you make me absolutely sick. > > If the OP is spam, why did all of you reply to it? > > > > > So you joined in to huh? Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: > He just posted the same thing to lkml > > I fear for the man, I really do. It seems they are just ignoring him. Probably he is not the first clueless moron spamming the lkml, so they just filter his address and go away with it. If he continues this way, in a few days he will accomplish two truly remarkable feats: - Being blacklisted from most linux ml/forums - Led people to hate dolphins And only with a few bytes of mail body. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wine and Cedega at the same time
Peter Ruskin ha scritto: > On Friday 23 February 2007, Gyuszk wrote: >> Dear Gentoo users, >> >> I have a question about Win32 emulation. I'm using Wine >> (0.9.31 ~x86 in Portage) for mIRC and uTorrent usage. By the way, why using mIRC and uTorrent when you can use xchat and ktorrent (among the others), that are native linux apps? :) m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
On 2/23/07, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:43:15 -, Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\) wrote: > Well... dolphins are supposed to be pretty smart but can they post to > mailing lists? Dolphins are far smarter than humans, which is why not a single dolphin has bought Vista :) And that's why they're on a linux forum ! :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Please, Stop the Dolphin Massacre Thread!
Seriously. On 2/23/07, fire-eyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject says it all. Come on folks let's keep it on subject. Please keep the number of replies to this down. Seriously, please, stop responding to that thread. -- "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
RE: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
From: Rodrigo Forlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:53 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan On 2/23/07, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:43:15 -, Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\) wrote: > Well... dolphins are supposed to be pretty smart but can they post to > mailing lists? Dolphins are far smarter than humans, which is why not a single dolphin has bought Vista :) And that's why they're on a linux forum ! :) That's beautiful! - This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: XV locks up X server after recent update
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 17:37, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2007-02-21, Hamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The ati-drivers package was updated from 8.27.10-r1 to 8.32.5. > >> Rolling it back to 8.27.10-r1 made xv work again. The lock up > >> occurred with xorg-xserver versions 1.1.1-r1, 1.1.1-r4, > >> 1.2.0-r1. ati-drivers 8.33.6-r1 also locked up. > > On my list of things to do is check to see if 8.28.8 with the > 2.6.19 patch works... > > > Hmm... My ati-drivers actually crashes the XServer completely. > > And (Usually) restarts (Sometimes kdm just gives up as well). > > > > I did attempt to raise a support request about it... And got > > an email back from ATI/AMD saying I shuld be thankful for what > > they've given me & not to bother them about it... > > I was bying ATI cards because the open-source driver supported > DRI (it was a bit flakey, but it mostly "just worked"). But, > that ended with the 92xx series. My experience (and the > general consensus, AFAICT) is that the NVidia closed-source > drivers are far less problematic than the ATI ones. > > I've got a 3 year old ATI card that ATI doesn't support at all > anymore with Linux drivers. I've got a 6 year old NVidia card > that still works perfectly and all I had to do is "emerge > nvidia-drivers" > > So I think NVidia is the way to go in general. > > [The problem is that you don't get much of a choice with > laptops. My IBM ThinkPad was too good a deal to pass up even > though it came with an ATI M300.] > If you have anything up to X600 (Maybe even X700) graphics (basically 9600 on PCIe) then the open source drivers should work fine... Mine is an X1400 sadly, so I don't even get LCD native resolution without the damned ATI drivers (Because it's flakey as hell with their DRI, and suspend to RAM doesn't work... Still... So why even bother). Hamish. pgpAFl7tWfdVT.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
Hello I've been using redhat forever Switch to GenToo a week or so ago WOW!! I'm really impressed! The only problem I have is the delete key doesn't work like it did with redhat. I hit delete and it acts like back space. I've google'd and searched mailing lists but the solution eludes me still. So how might I make the delete key act like it did in redhat? Jamie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: XV locks up X server after recent update
On 2007-02-23, Hamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I was bying ATI cards because the open-source driver supported >> DRI (it was a bit flakey, but it mostly "just worked"). But, >> that ended with the 92xx series. My experience (and the >> general consensus, AFAICT) is that the NVidia closed-source >> drivers are far less problematic than the ATI ones. >> >> I've got a 3 year old ATI card that ATI doesn't support at all >> anymore with Linux drivers. I've got a 6 year old NVidia card >> that still works perfectly and all I had to do is "emerge >> nvidia-drivers" >> >> So I think NVidia is the way to go in general. >> >> [The problem is that you don't get much of a choice with >> laptops. My IBM ThinkPad was too good a deal to pass up even >> though it came with an ATI M300.] >> > > If you have anything up to X600 (Maybe even X700) graphics > (basically 9600 on PCIe) then the open source drivers should > work fine... I know the OS driver is supposed to work -- and it did work for a while -- at leastit worked in in a manner: the frame rates weren't very good and there were a lot of noticable rendering glitches. Then one day after an "emerge update", the open source driver no longer worked: any time an OpenGL program ran, the X server crashed. I futzed around with the open-source DRI driver for a while, but was unable to get it to work again -- so I gave up and switched to ATI's driver (which ATI has now abandonded). Once I get the ATI drivers to work, they seem to work well (at least for me) with much higher frames rates than the open-source driver and no noticable rendering problems. > Mine is an X1400 sadly, so I don't even get LCD native > resolution without the damned ATI drivers (Because it's flakey > as hell with their DRI, and suspend to RAM doesn't work... > Still... So why even bother). Next time I'm picking NVidia if I can... -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I want to kill at everyone here with a cute visi.comcolorful Hydrogen Bomb!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] automount on the CLI
On Friday 23 February 2007 00:49, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:15:28 +, Mick wrote: > > I've looked around for an explanation, but I have failed to find enough > > to help me understand. Would you care to explain or point me to some > > relevant links. How is one meant to mount a USB stick when on a > > console? > > > > A long time ago I created relevant entries in my fstab, because back > > then automounting was quite involved and a tad unstable. I have still > > some entries like: > > > > # Flash Card > > /dev/sda/mnt/sdaauto,vfat,msdos noauto,user,noatime 0 0 > > /dev/sda1/mnt/sda1auto,vfat,msdos noauto,user,noatime 0 0 > > to be able to mount USB pen drives manually. However, because of these > > fstab entries when I automount them using a GUI (Konqueror), they are > > mounted under /mnt/sda not under /media/disk. > > Remove the entries from /etc/fstab, then KDE will automount them > under /media/. To mount manually from a terminal or console, > use "pmount /dev/sda1", you don't need to be root to do this, to have the > device mounted in the same place as with KDE. Ahh! man pmount, I forgot about this command . . . Thank you very much. Just what I was looking for. -- Regards, Mick pgpNUqkPxJM9N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
Jamie Harr wrote: Hello I've been using redhat forever Switch to GenToo a week or so ago WOW!! I'm really impressed! The only problem I have is the delete key doesn't work like it did with redhat. I hit delete and it acts like back space.I've google'd and searched mailing lists but the solution eludes me still. So how might I make the delete key act like it did in redhat? Jamie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Under X or in the shell? - jay -- My system configuration (Gentoo Linux): http://www.linux-stats.org/index.php?c=userpage&sys=810 Registered Linux User #373457 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
Jakob Buchgraber wrote: Jamie Harr wrote: Hello I've been using redhat forever Switch to GenToo a week or so ago WOW!! I'm really impressed! The only problem I have is the delete key doesn't work like it did with redhat. I hit delete and it acts like back space. I've google'd and searched mailing lists but the solution eludes me still. So how might I make the delete key act like it did in redhat? Jamie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Under X or in the shell? - jay In X -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
On Saturday, 24 February 2007 3:08, Jamie Harr wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello > > I've been using redhat forever Switch to > GenToo a week or so ago WOW!! I'm really impressed! The > only problem I have is the delete key doesn't work like it did with > redhat. I hit delete and it acts like back space. > I've google'd and searched mailing lists but the solution eludes me > still. So how might I make the delete key act like it did in > redhat? > > Jamie > > > Please do not send HTML formatted emails to this list. Plain text only! -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:14:59 -0500, Jamie Harr wrote: >> Under X or in the shell? > In X Which desktop environment or window manager are you using? We really need more information about your system and the problem. And please turn off the HTML posting. -- Neil Bothwick All right, set phasers to deep fat fry! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
>> Jamie Harr wrote: Could you please avoid HTML mail when writing to this mailing list? Not everyone has a HTML-capable mail client (I personally do have, but...) . Thanks a lot. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with UNICODE and man pages encoding
Hans-Werner Hilse napsal(a): Hi, On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:07:52 +0100 (CET) paulie.x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So to the OP: Configure your terminal accordingly (for console: set consoletrans and -font correctly) or if you didn't yet, install a unicode-aware terminal program. It is not true because I'm already using UNICODE in terminal. Just man pages are still displayed worst. When I uncompressed one local man page and viewed raw text (cat man.1 | less) in my terminal, I can see correct UNICODE characters (among format sequences). Did you read the comment in man.conf? It says there is a problem with double conversion to unicode but basically tells to use "nroff -mandoc" without -T option for utf-8 output. Sorry, but these are all my suggestions left... -hwh OK. This is in /etc/man.conf: -- ... # Useful paths - note that COL should not be defined when # NROFF is defined as "groff -Tascii" or "groff -Tlatin1"; # not only is it superfluous, but it actually damages the output. # For use with utf-8, NROFF should be "nroff -mandoc" without -T option. # (Maybe - but today I need -Tlatin1 to prevent double conversion to utf8.) # # If you have a new troff (version 1.18.1?) and its colored output # causes problems, add the -c option to TROFF, NROFF, JNROFF. # TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tps -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tascii -c -mandoc JNROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tnippon -mandocj EQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tps NEQN/usr/bin/geqn -Tlatin1 JNEQN /usr/bin/geqn -Tnippon TBL /usr/bin/gtbl # COL /usr/bin/col REFER /usr/bin/refer PIC /usr/bin/pic VGRIND GRAP PAGER /usr/bin/less -is BROWSER /usr/bin/less -is HTMLPAGER /bin/cat CAT /bin/cat ... -- Original gives for czech (cs_CZ.UTF-8 locale) word "zformátuje": with origianl settings: "zformAituje" I tried this changes: NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -c -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc TROFF /usr/bin/groff -Tlatin1 -mandoc NROFF /usr/bin/nroff -Tutf8 -c -mandoc but all gives "zformátuje". Maybe this is just some stupid and irrelevant problem. But I think that good localization and i18n of Gentoo will be good for linux on desktops ( show that linux can do it ;] ). And probably I'm not such a good programmer to find others mistakes (But I'm interested to know the cause). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I just get hacked???
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:51:20 +0300, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:34:45 -0800, Grant wrote: It occurred to me this morning that a hacker could have gained access to my system via the vmware guest OS (XP) and then deleted the contents of vmware/ to cover his tracks. Does that sound like a possibility? Not unless you have the vmware directory mounted within the guest OS. The VM cannot access filesystems on the host unless they are created as disks on the VM or network mounted. This is correct, but if the virtual machine is on the same network as the host, then it is posible to get the VM, than the host, and finally to delete the VM. Theoretically it is also possible to get to the host through the VmWare Tools, provided they are installed on the guest, but I have never heard this done. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to re-emerge old kernel sources
> > > On one of my Gentoo systems, portage wants to re-emerge > > > hardened-sources-2.6.16-r10 and hardened-sources-2.6.14-r7 because of > > > (-doc%). I'm currently using hardened-sources-2.6.18-hardened, but > > > whenever new kernel sources are emerged, I just manually rm -rf the > > > old sources in /usr/src. I guess portage wants to re-emerge the old > > > sources because it thinks they are still installed. > > > > > > How can I let portage know that those old sources aren't installed anymore? > > > > By unmerging them ? > > > > # emerge -Cva =hardened-sources-2.6.16-r10 =hardened-sources-2.6.14-r7 > > How can I see which versions of hardened-sources portage thinks are > currently installed? I guess I should manually unmerge old sources as > above instead of using rm -rf. > > - Grant Yes, you can: $ equery list --duplicates [] In your case should be 'sources'. Without it looks for all duplicates, installed in so-called slots. It is true then that emerge --depclean never unmerges slotted packages? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I just get hacked???
>> It occurred to me this morning that a hacker could have gained access >> to my system via the vmware guest OS (XP) and then deleted the >> contents of vmware/ to cover his tracks. Does that sound like a >> possibility? > > Not unless you have the vmware directory mounted within the guest OS. The > VM cannot access filesystems on the host unless they are created as disks > on the VM or network mounted. > > This is correct, but if the virtual machine is on the same network as the host, then it is posible to get the VM, than the host, and finally to delete the VM. They are on the same network. Is that kind of an attack something that happens very often? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I just get hacked???
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:57:25 +0300, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It occurred to me this morning that a hacker could have gained access >> to my system via the vmware guest OS (XP) and then deleted the >> contents of vmware/ to cover his tracks. Does that sound like a >> possibility? > > Not unless you have the vmware directory mounted within the guest OS. The > VM cannot access filesystems on the host unless they are created as disks > on the VM or network mounted. > > This is correct, but if the virtual machine is on the same network as the host, then it is posible to get the VM, than the host, and finally to delete the VM. They are on the same network. Is that kind of an attack something that happens very often? As far as I know, not very often. Besides, if the guest is hacked it is logical to do some clean-up there and keep it for further usage. -- Andrei Gerasimenko -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I just get hacked???
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:48:59 +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > > Not unless you have the vmware directory mounted within the guest OS. > > The VM cannot access filesystems on the host unless they are created > > as disks on the VM or network mounted. > This is correct, but if the virtual machine is on the same network as > the host, then it is posible to get the VM, than the host, and finally > to delete the VM. True, but then you'd need to crack SSH or use some other method to get a login on the host machine. If you're going to all that trouble, I think you'd do more than delete the guest OS files. -- Neil Bothwick If you think that you can truncate my sig to 75 chars, then you can just fu signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to re-emerge old kernel sources
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:49:18 -0800, Grant wrote: > It is true then that emerge --depclean never unmerges slotted packages? That's correct, but that's not what --depclean is for. emerge --prune will remove all but thew highest slot - use with great care! -- Neil Bothwick - We are but packets in the internet of Life- signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] ebuild for joomla 1.5
Hi folks, does anyone have an ebuild for the current joomla 1.5 ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for joomla 1.5
On Friday 23 February 2007 20:38:31 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > does anyone have an ebuild for the current joomla 1.5 ? Please search bugzie.. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152436 -- Bo Andresen pgpd3J7ZT5Rtg.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] coda module autoload
Hi folks, how can I get the coda module loaded automatically (udev ?) w/o changing the init script. thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to re-emerge old kernel sources
On Friday 23 February 2007 18:49:18 Grant wrote: > > > How can I see which versions of hardened-sources portage thinks are > > > currently installed? I guess I should manually unmerge old sources as > > > above instead of using rm -rf. > > > > Yes, you can: > > > > $ equery list --duplicates [] > > > > In your case should be 'sources'. Without > > it looks for all duplicates, installed in so-called slots. > > It is true then that emerge --depclean never unmerges slotted packages? Just how would portage know that an old slot is no longer needed? Just because a newer version is installed doesn't mean it's been compiled or that the old is no longer needed (you might need to compile some package against the old that fails to compile against the new)... For the more general case slot deps aren't allowed in the tree yet so it's not all that easy to figure out which slots are in use. You do risk breaking your system by pruning the wrong package.. Regardless, I do think app-portage/udept at least attempts to do this. I haven't tried it so I can't say how reliable it is, though. -- Bo Andresen pgp6O5lHTspO4.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] coda auto-login
Hi folks, how can I do an automatic login on startup ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:58:52 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > how can I do an automatic login on startup ? That depends on where you want to login - console, KDE, GNOME, another WM? -- Neil Bothwick Blessed be the pessimist for he hath made backups. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Wine and Cedega at the same time
Bo Ørsted Andresen írta: > On Friday 23 February 2007 13:29:57 Gyuszk wrote: > >> My question: is it possible to have Wine and Cedega installed on the same >> system? >> > > Sure. They don't collide in any way. One uses .wine the other .cedega... Just > emerge both. > > In the future do not hijack threads by replying and changing the subject. > Instead compose a new mail. > > Ok, thanks. Sorry for the mail lameness. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:58 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > how can I do an automatic login on startup ? If you need to execute something put it to /etc/conf.d/local.start or /etc/conf.d/local.stop The it is executed after the other services have been started up. regards Jürgen -- ICQ #81510866 - http://the-gay-bar.com - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Occam's Razor: -"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem."- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Wine and Cedega at the same time
b.n. írta: > Peter Ruskin ha scritto: > >> On Friday 23 February 2007, Gyuszk wrote: >> >>> Dear Gentoo users, >>> >>> I have a question about Win32 emulation. I'm using Wine >>> (0.9.31 ~x86 in Portage) for mIRC and uTorrent usage. >>> > > By the way, why using mIRC and uTorrent when you can use xchat and > ktorrent (among the others), that are native linux apps? :) > > m. > The answer is simple. I have been using mIRC for many years, and no other IRC clients gives me that feeling. Thats all. uTorrent is very simple and very fast. I've tried Azureus, KTorrent, Gnome-Bittorend backend, rtorrent, etc. KTorrent won't be so good 'cause my desktop is gnome. In the meantime I'm using xchat for years. I'm a serious IRC user, and I love mirc, thats all. Gyuszk -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login
2007/2/23, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:58:52 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > how can I do an automatic login on startup ? That depends on where you want to login - console, KDE, GNOME, another WM? Neil is right. GDM and KDM have their own built-in auto-login mechanisms. If you're using xdm, I think you'll have to play with the /etc/X11 files a bit more. If you just want a startx with a modified .xinitrc, changing the inittab to run whatever you want would suffice. However, doing it in /etc/conf.d/local.start or inittab may seem the same but it's not. Personally, I wouldn't add an autologin command to local.start, since some services might depend on it to start, and they wouldn't be able until that command you add to local.start finishes. You would have to force the creation of a child process, so that the parent can stop and the init procedure can go on. -- Neil Bothwick Blessed be the pessimist for he hath made backups.
Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?
On Friday 23 February 2007, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Delete or bksp?': > And please turn off the HTML posting. Aha! That's why I couldn't read his messages. I just assumed he'd encrypted them or something, so I was ignoring them. ;) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgp24ybKR1aDL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to re-emerge old kernel sources
> It is true then that emerge --depclean never unmerges slotted packages? Just how would portage know that an old slot is no longer needed? Just because a newer version is installed doesn't mean it's been compiled or that the old is no longer needed (you might need to compile some package against the old that fails to compile against the new)... For the more general case slot deps aren't allowed in the tree yet so it's not all that easy to figure out which slots are in use. You do risk breaking your system by pruning the wrong package.. Ok, yes, slot deps sounds like what I'm after here. Is there a portage command I can run to see which packages are installed in more than one slot? I'm having disk space problems on my laptop. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants to re-emerge old kernel sources
On Friday 23 February 2007, Grant wrote: > > > It is true then that emerge --depclean never unmerges slotted packages? > > > > Just how would portage know that an old slot is no longer needed? Just > > because a newer version is installed doesn't mean it's been compiled or > > that the old is no longer needed (you might need to compile some package > > against the old that fails to compile against the new)... > > > > For the more general case slot deps aren't allowed in the tree yet so > > it's not all that easy to figure out which slots are in use. You do risk > > breaking your system by pruning the wrong package.. > > Ok, yes, slot deps sounds like what I'm after here. Is there a > portage command I can run to see which packages are installed in more > than one slot? I'm having disk space problems on my laptop. emerge -Pp Though you should never run that without --pretend cause that will destroy your system. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
Dale wrote: > > So you joined in to huh? Yes. because I care about more than just a bunch of zeroes and ones. Bye -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage wants to re-emerge old kernel sources
Am Freitag, den 23.02.2007, 23:58 +0100 schrieb Harm Geerts: > On Friday 23 February 2007, Grant wrote: > > > > It is true then that emerge --depclean never unmerges slotted packages? > > > > > > Just how would portage know that an old slot is no longer needed? Just > > > because a newer version is installed doesn't mean it's been compiled or > > > that the old is no longer needed (you might need to compile some package > > > against the old that fails to compile against the new)... > > > > > > For the more general case slot deps aren't allowed in the tree yet so > > > it's not all that easy to figure out which slots are in use. You do risk > > > breaking your system by pruning the wrong package.. > > > > Ok, yes, slot deps sounds like what I'm after here. Is there a > > portage command I can run to see which packages are installed in more > > than one slot? I'm having disk space problems on my laptop. > > emerge -Pp > > Though you should never run that without --pretend cause that will destroy > your system. I personally prefer 'equery list --duplicates' from my previous post. It takes up little space. But I guess it's a taste thing, and you need the gentoolkit package. Just wanted to state an alternative :). -- HTH, Marc Joliet signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
[gentoo-user] how to disable an automatic feature in vim?
Hi, all, I'm one of those people who don't like editors doing things automatically because I find the automatic feature often does something other than what I intended. I've noticed recently that when I edit configuration files in /etc, vim likes to insert a leading "# " in new lines following existing comment lines. That's almost never what I want to do, and I almost always have to delete the # and space before doing what I intended. I don't even know what to call this behavior, so I don't even know where to look in the vim documentation. Anybody know how to turn this behavior off? I've got the latest stable versions of vim, vim-core, and gentoo-syntax installed on my systems. Thanks for your help. John Blinka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [Off Topic] screen configuration...
I'm frustrated... I want to use screen, but my emacs-afflicted fingers automatically type "control-a" to go to the beginning of the line in my shell - which is somewhat unfortunate for screen. I assume from the manual that I can re-bind keys to avoid this problem... my first guess was to bung "bind '^a'" into my .screenrc - but that doesn't do the trick. Does anyone here have the correct incantation? Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to disable an automatic feature in vim?
070223 John Blinka wrote: > when I edit configuration files in /etc, > vim likes to insert a leading "# " in new lines > following existing comment lines. > That's almost never what I want to do > and I have to delete the # and space before doing what I intended. > I've got the latest stable versions of vim, vim-core > and gentoo-syntax installed on my systems. > Anybody know how to turn this behavior off? I tested with a file in /etc & it doesn't happen for me. > I don't even know where to look in the vim documentation. Google 'vim automatic comment' finds sect 30.6 of the Vim User Manual, which covers something similar; also http://ianua.initd.org/vimit/vim63/html/change.html#fo-table which seems to cover what you describe under options 'r' & 'o'. Perhaps this will get you started, if no-one else has more precise info. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login
* Jürgen Geuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:58 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > how can I do an automatic login on startup ? > > If you need to execute something put it to > /etc/conf.d/local.start or > /etc/conf.d/local.stop > The it is executed after the other services have been started up. Does not fully work, since some services require the coda volumes mounted. So my only idea was to change /etc/init.d/venus But: there's another problem. Every user has to log into coda by its own. This is bad if all user's homedirs should sit on coda. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Evolution crashs after updates on remote system
Hello, Last weekend I started doing updates on my dad's Gentoo box while he was on vacation. When he got back tonight he tried to get email but Evolution is crashing as soon as he tries to open it. I shelled in and tried running it myself and see the same problem in all account. This is what I see in my terminal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ evolution (evolution-2.8:16011): evolution-mail-WARNING **: cannot load vfolders: Unable to load system rules '/usr/share/evolution/2.8/vfoldertypes.xml': Success (evolution-2.8:16011): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_layout_set_hadjustment: assertion `GTK_IS_LAYOUT (layout)' failed (evolution-2.8:16011): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_layout_set_vadjustment: assertion `GTK_IS_LAYOUT (layout)' failed ** (bug-buddy:16026): WARNING **: Couldn't load icon for Bonobo Component Browser ** (bug-buddy:16026): WARNING **: Couldn't load icon for Open Folder Failed to read a valid object file image from memory. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ The some app pops up wanting to send crash info but apparently the way Evolution is built doesn't include enough stuff to make it worthwhile? See the output below. Are the gtk warnings above the problem or are they just messages? Any ideas on how to get this fixed? Where to start The machine is 350 miles away. Thanks, Mark Distribution: Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9 Gnome Release: 2.16.2 2007-02-19 (Gentoo) BugBuddy Version: 2.16.0 Memory status: size: 42799104 vsize: 0 resident: 42799104 share: 0 rss: 14680064 rss_rlim: 0 CPU usage: start_time: 1172283111 rtime: 0 utime: 34 stime: 0 cutime:32 cstime: 0 timeout: 2 it_real_value: 0 frequency: 0 Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/evolution-2.8' (no debugging symbols found) Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1". (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1234733392 (LWP 16011)] [New Thread -1239753840 (LWP 16021)] 0xb7f2f410 in ?? () #0 0xb7f2f410 in ?? () #1 0xbfe0c6d8 in ?? () #2 0x in ?? () Thread 2 (Thread -1239753840 (LWP 16021)): #0 0xb7f2f410 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #1 0xb61ad3a8 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #2 0x in ?? () No symbol table info available. Thread 1 (Thread -1234733392 (LWP 16011)): #0 0xb7f2f410 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #1 0xbfe0c6d8 in ?? () No symbol table info available. #2 0x in ?? () No symbol table info available. #0 0xb7f2f410 in ?? () The program is running. Quit anyway (and detach it)? (y or n) [answered Y; input not from terminal] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a Linux gandalf 2.6.18-gentoo-r4 #4 PREEMPT Mon Dec 18 18:55:41 PST 2006 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ gandalf ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.1.2-r9 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.5-r0, 2.6.18-gentoo-r4 i686) = System uname: 2.6.18-gentoo-r4 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9 Timestamp of tree: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 01:00:01 + dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.31 dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.14 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.17-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -pipe" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /home/mythtv/ /usr/share/X11/xkb" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=athlon-xp -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.tucdemonic.org/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp http://www.zentek-international.com/mirrors/gentoo/"; LINGUAS="en" MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="3dnow 3dnowext X Xi alsa apache2 audiofile berkdb bitmap-fonts cdparanoia cdr cjk cli cpudetection cracklib crypt cups dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode flac foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gimp gimpprint gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 i8x0 iconv imlib ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad midi mikmod mjpeg mmx mmxext motif mozilla mp3 mpeg mysql mythtv ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nvidia ogg opengl o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade
Well, It is getting more confusing I can't seem to unmerge everything for xfce4 in order to start over. In typing this command, I get: iDeq ~ # emerge -pv xfce4-extras These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies \!!! Manifest file not found: '/usr/local/overlays/ebuildexchange/xfce-base/xfce4-panel/Manifest' \!!! Manifest file not found: '/usr/local/overlays/ebuildexchange/xfce-base/xfdesktop/Manifest' \!!! Manifest file not found: '/usr/local/overlays/ebuildexchange/xfce-base/xfce-utils/Manifest' ... done! [blocks B ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1) [blocks B ] xfce-extra/xfce4-showdesktop (is blocking xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1) [blocks B ] xfce-extra/xfce4-systray (is blocking xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1) [blocks B ] wrote: On Monday 19 February 2007 18:37:32 Grant Edwards wrote: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > [blocks B ] xfce-extra/xfce4-windowlist (is blocking > > xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0-r1) > > Yea, upgrading to XFCE 4.4 is a PITA. > > The package structure/organization was changed completely, so > emerge gets confused. It knows it can't install libxfce4util > because a bunch of older packages that were combined into > libxfce4util are still installed. For whatever reason, emerge > doesn't know enough to remove the old packages. It's not a matter of emerge being confused or not knowing enough to remove the old packages. It's a matter of emerge not being permitted to remove any packages that temporarily break things without the user knowing about and permitting it first. So instead it aborts while informing the user about the block and allowing the user to make a decision. In this particular case it's not even about anything needing to be removed (at least not anymore). It's simply that when accepting ~arch keywords for xfce4 you need to accept ~arch keywords for xfce4-extras too for them to be compatible. -- Bo Andresen
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade
On Saturday 24 February 2007 04:54:21 Douglas Linford wrote: > [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.2.3.2 0 kB Did you even read the replies up until now? # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4 -- Bo Andresen pgpJZgLgQI4yY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] coda auto-login
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 02:39 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > If you need to execute something put it to > > /etc/conf.d/local.start or > > /etc/conf.d/local.stop > Does not fully work, since some services require the coda > volumes mounted. So my only idea was to change /etc/init.d/venus Well then you can either copy one of the startscripts, modify it to do the coda stuff and add it to boot runlevel or > But: there's another problem. Every user has to log into coda > by its own. This is bad if all user's homedirs should sit on coda. Put the login thingy as first line in a .-File that is executed upon login for every user. .bashrc or something. regards Jürgen -- ICQ #81510866 - http://the-gay-bar.com - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Occam's Razor: -"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem."- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade
Kinda testy there Mr. Boyes I did read the replies... On 2/23/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Saturday 24 February 2007 04:54:21 Douglas Linford wrote: > [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.2.3.2 0 kB Did you even read the replies up until now? # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4 -- Bo Andresen
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 upgrade
iDeq ~ # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies | !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4" have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4.0-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. On 2/23/07, Douglas Linford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kinda testy there Mr. Boyes I did read the replies... On 2/23/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On Saturday 24 February 2007 04:54:21 Douglas Linford wrote: > > [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4- extras-4.2.3.2 0 kB > > Did you even read the replies up until now? > > # emerge -pv \>=xfce-base/xfce4-extras-4.4 > > -- > Bo Andresen > >
