Re: [gentoo-user] failed to emerge libwnck

[Stefán István]

kedd 27 február 2007 15.32 dátummal Bo Ørsted Andresen ezt írta:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 15:10:23 Stefán István wrote:
> > > Please answer the questions in comment #3 on bug #159563.
> > >
> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159563#c3
> >
> > My glib version is 2.8.5, so probably this is the problem.
> > Can I just simply upgrade it to 2.12.7, and every other already installed
> > packages will work with it?
> 
> I meant answer the question by commenting on the bug (admittedly that wasn't 
> clear). ;) It's currently marked NEEDINFO because noone has replied to that 
> comment. But yes, at most you need to run revdep-rebuild after upgrading 
> glib.

Thanks for the help, I upgraded glib, and then I was able to compile libwnck 
ant the other packages needed for beryl.

István
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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql build error

[Uwe Thiem]

On 27 February 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 19:41:37 Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > > CXXFLAGS="O3"
> > >
> > > And yet you did... ;)
> >
> > Hm... That never was a problem with mysql before. Not even with versions
> > that do not compile anymore but did in the past.
> >
> > Here are the relevant lines in make.conf:
> > CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> > CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
> >
> > That should not cause the dash to be omitted. Anyway, I will give it a
> > try after copying CFLAGS over to CXXFLAGS verbatim.
> >
> > Will let you know about the outcome.

Alright, that yielded the very same outcome.

>
> Are you sure there isn't a second entry setting CXXFLAGS=O3? Or perhaps in
> your env?
>
> # grep CXXFLAGS /etc/make.conf
> # env | grep CXXFLAGS

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep CXX /etc/make.conf
CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ env | grep CXX
CXXFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4

So where does the dash get lost? Weird.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage problem with xfce4-panel

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:43:30 -0500 Bruno Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Exist a much easier way to avoid unmasking packages. Go to your
> /etc/make.conf. Change your architecture from "x86" to "~x86". Now emerge
> xfce4-panel. If you don't want to be in the testing architecture. Go back
> and change "~x86" to "x86". That's pretty easy... and no need to unamsk!

I would worry that the emerge of xfce4-panel might then bring in other
testing packages as dependencies (but I don't know for sure).

I would think it saver to add xfce-panel to package.keywords

echo xfce-extra/xfce4-panelmenu >> /etc/portage/package.keywords

(mkdir /etc/portageif you don't already have it.)

There are various prefixes and suffixes you could add.
Seeman portage for details

For example my package.keywords is currently

x11-misc/googleearth
app-editors/emacs-cvs
~x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8774
~net-print/cups-1.2.1-r2
~app-text/libpaper-1.1.14.8
net-wireless/bcm43xx-fwcutter
#~media-gfx/graphviz-2.12

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[gentoo-user] Email clients - what can replace Evolution?

[Mark Knecht]

Hi all,
  I've got a machine that will no longer run Evolution. For whatever
reason all versions of Evolution in Portage crash. I cannot as of yet
get a backtrace to determine why. Even if I could a fast solution
would depend on other folks seeing what's wrong and telling me how to
fix it by recompiling some library or something. I cannot be sure if
or even when that might happen so my user needs to move on. He's been
without access to his email for about 10 days and is fed up waiting
for me to fix it.

  The question is how to move forward. Is there any other Linux email
client that can pick up where Evolution has failed him? I know nothing
about how Evolution stores mail, contact lists, etc. so I don't know
what he might be able to use. What is the KDE mail client? Can
Thunderbird look at Evolution files?

  I spent some time going through the online Portage database but
nothing seemed obvious so I hoped to hear about an app to try out
here.

  In parallel I can try something like emerge -e world. Maybe I'll
get lucky? ;-)

  Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Vlad Dogaru]

On 2/28/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:29 +0100
"Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I
> > > > intend to make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed
> > > > DefaultDepth and Modes lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The
> > > > console works at 1024x768 as usual, but I have compiled that
> > > > into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > how about not using modelines at all?
> >
> > I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
> > DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
> > nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find
> > it meaningful.
> >
> > Vlad
> >
> > > --
> > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
> well, you set no mode at all - modelines are something different ;)
>
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Card0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"
>   #DefaultDepth 24
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 1
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 4
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 8
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 15
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 16
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 24
>   #Modes"1280x1024"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
> change that too something like:
>
>
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Card0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"
>   #DefaultDepth 24
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 1
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 4
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 8
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 15
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 16
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 24
>   Modes "1280x1024"  "1024x768" "800x600"
> "640x480" EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
> And add this to your modules section:
> Load"ddc"
I find myself in this situation often, and usually, looking up
Horizontal Sync and Vertical Refresh frequencies for the make and model
of the monitor (rarely tricky) and then setting them in xorg.conf
solves the problem.  For example:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
HorizSync   31.5-64.3
VertRefresh 50-90
Modeline  "1024x768"   85.00 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
EndSection

In this case I also used a modeline because the HorizSync and
VertRefresh settings didn't work at 1024x768 without it.


I emerged ddcxinfo-knoppix and when I run it with -monitor, I get a
lot of modelines, along with some HorizSync and VertRefresh values.
These are what concern me:

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
#   HorizSync28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
   HorizSync28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
   VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#   VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker.
TFT default.
   #  Default modes distilled from
   #  "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer
Display Monitor
   #   Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
   #  $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v
1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
   # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
   ModeLine "640x350"31.5  640  672  736  832350  382
385  445 +hsync -vsync


Does this program guarantee that the settings really do work for my
monitor or are they just generic? I need to know, especially
considering the remarks about frying. Also, just checking to see I got
it correctly: I would comment out al

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage problem with xfce4-panel

[Bruno Espinoza]

Exist a much easier way to avoid unmasking packages. Go to your
/etc/make.conf. Change your architecture from "x86" to "~x86". Now emerge
xfce4-panel. If you don't want to be in the testing architecture. Go back
and change "~x86" to "x86". That's pretty easy... and no need to unamsk!

Regards.


2007/2/27, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> > I just did an emerge --sync; emerge world and I'm having some trouble
with:
> >
> >  >
> > I unmerged xfce4-panel but I still get the above blocking message.  A
> > pretend emerge of xfce4-panel confirms that it is not installed.  How
> > can I resolve this?
>
> This really is a great example of a question with too little information
> provided? What were you trying to emerge? What's in your
package.keywords
> (only xfce entries are relevant here)?

Removing all of this from package.keywords fixed it:

xfce-extra/terminal
>=xfce-extra/exo-0.3.2
>=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.4.0
>=xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.4.0
>=xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0
>=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.0
>=xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.4.0

That is all required for the terminal package though.  I guess I
should wait until I upgrade to xfce-4.4 before I bring terminal back
into the loop?

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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox (mis)behavior

[Walter Dnes]

  Here's a workaround that seems to help in a lot of cases...

1) Shut down all instances of Firefox

2) rename your profile directory.  It usually looks something like
~/.mozilla/firefox/

3) Start Firefox again.  It'll create a new profile.

  Firefox has occasional problems when the profile from an older version
won't work for the new version.  You should be able to copy or import
the bookmarks file from the old format.  But you'll have to do your
settings all over again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: graphviz workaround

[Daniel Iliev]

James wrote:
> Daniel Iliev  ilievnet.com> writes:
>
>
>   
>> Please, provide me (if you can) with any reasonable workaround for bug
>> #167978 [1].
>> (graphviz has broken dependencies pulling two conflicting versions of
>> 
>
>
> cat /etc/portage/package.mask
>
> 
>   
>> =media-libs/gd-2.0.34
>> 
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>   

Thank you very much!  ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan

[Thomas Rösner]

Aggelos schrieb:


May I never get support from this list if all other users are like those.

PS: Which I believe is not true.
  


Leave please.

Regards,
   Thomas

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Dan Farrell]

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:29 +0100
"Hemmann, Volker Armin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I
> > > > intend to make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed
> > > > DefaultDepth and Modes lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The
> > > > console works at 1024x768 as usual, but I have compiled that
> > > > into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > how about not using modelines at all?
> >
> > I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
> > DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
> > nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find
> > it meaningful.
> >
> > Vlad
> >
> > > --
> > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> well, you set no mode at all - modelines are something different ;)
> 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Card0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"
>   #DefaultDepth 24
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 1
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 4
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 8
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 15
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 16
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 24
>   #Modes"1280x1024"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> change that too something like:
> 
> 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Card0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"
>   #DefaultDepth 24
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 1
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 4
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 8
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 15
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 16
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 24
>   Modes "1280x1024"  "1024x768" "800x600"
> "640x480" EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> And add this to your modules section:
> Load"ddc"
I find myself in this situation often, and usually, looking up
Horizontal Sync and Vertical Refresh frequencies for the make and model
of the monitor (rarely tricky) and then setting them in xorg.conf
solves the problem.  For example: 

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
HorizSync   31.5-64.3
VertRefresh 50-90
Modeline  "1024x768"   85.00 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
EndSection

In this case I also used a modeline because the HorizSync and
VertRefresh settings didn't work at 1024x768 without it.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
> > > make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
> > > lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
> > > usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> >
> > how about not using modelines at all?
>
> I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
> DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
> nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find it
> meaningful.
>
> Vlad
>
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

well, you set no mode at all - modelines are something different ;)

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
#DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
#Modes"1280x1024"
EndSubSection
EndSection

change that too something like:


Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
#DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"  "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

And add this to your modules section:
Load"ddc"
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[gentoo-user] firefox (mis)behavior

[David Relson]

Yesterday monring, out of curiosity, I rebuilt firefox with the
mozbranding flag.  Curiously, bookmarks weren't working.  I could click
on "Bookmarks" and see the proper list, but efforts to open any of them
failed without any messages and without the screen changing.
"Organize bookmarks" brings up a blank page (lacking bookmarks).

Yesterday evening I learned that a new ebuild (firefox-2.0.0.2) was
available, so I emerged that (without the mozbranding flag).  Now I
have Bon Echo and the same bookmark mis-behavior.

My bookmark file, i.e.
~/.mozilla/firefox/fad468fx.default/bookmarks.html seems to be intact
and is accessible as file:///home/relson/...

As an additional detail, after loading a page, the busy (whirly) icon
in firefox's upper right corner is busy whirling.  AFAICT it's not
going to stop.

Has anyone seen this behavior?  Does anyone know what to to about it?

Regards,

David
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage problem with xfce4-panel

[Grant]

> I just did an emerge --sync; emerge world and I'm having some trouble with:
>
> 
> I unmerged xfce4-panel but I still get the above blocking message.  A
> pretend emerge of xfce4-panel confirms that it is not installed.  How
> can I resolve this?

This really is a great example of a question with too little information
provided? What were you trying to emerge? What's in your package.keywords
(only xfce entries are relevant here)?


Removing all of this from package.keywords fixed it:

xfce-extra/terminal

=xfce-extra/exo-0.3.2
=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-plugins-4.4.0
=xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.4.0
=xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.4.0
=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.4.0
=xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.4.0


That is all required for the terminal package though.  I guess I
should wait until I upgrade to xfce-4.4 before I bring terminal back
into the loop?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Vlad Dogaru]

On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
> make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
> lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
> usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
>
how about not using modelines at all?


I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find it
meaningful.

Vlad

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xorg.conf
Description: Binary data

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for advice on shared file system.

[Peter Lewis]

On Monday 26 February 2007 19:14, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Monday 26 February 2007, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:54:31PM +, Peter Lewis wrote:
> > > I've been looking around for a while now for some sort of "shared
> > > file system" which might meet my needs a little better than that
> > > which I am currently using.
> >
> > Maybe coda? Thought I only heard of it, not used.
> >
> > Have a nice day
>
> Yeah, that was my first thought as well. Code is marketed as being able
> to work in a disconnected state. Whatever that means, I'm sure it is
> good.

Thanks guys - I'd not heard of Coda. It looks like it might well do the trick.

Cheers,

Pete.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
> make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
> lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
> usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
>
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[gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Vlad Dogaru]

Hello all,

I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Vlad

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Dale]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: 
> [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling':
>   
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> 
>>> On Monday 26 February 2007, Dale wrote:
>>>   
 h, I have used less for a lot for things but not files this big.
  I could wear out my page down key.
 
>>> big files the size of emerge.log (8M on my machine) is exactly what
>>> less excels at. The most useful key is of course "/" which lets you
>>> enter a string of text to search for, then 'q" to quit and "h"
>>> displays a help screen
>>>   
>
> '
>
> Close your single-quotes man! You've turned the rest of your post into a 
> non-interpolated string! ;)
>
>   
>> My thing is getting to the bottom of the page in one key stroke.  Maybe
>> I need to man less and read a bit.  :/
>> 
>
> I believe 'G' should do this.
>
>   

I did what with quotes?

'G', that works.  I sort of got two out of one on that one.  LOL

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to remove required packages

[Mark Knecht]

On 2/27/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:

[ snip lots of useful bacground info]

> > 2. If you never had gnome installed but did have evo installed,
> > then removed evo, everything looks proper.
> >
> > So, let --depclean do it's thing. Then emerge -uND world and run
> > revder-rebuild to fix anything that remains.
>
> Based on my response above should I be doing this? From the info I
> posted earlier if I emerge -C jasper, as --depclean wants to do, then
> it seems it will just be emerged again at emerge -DuN world.
>
> I'm happy to do it if it's the right thing to do. I'm just not
> understanding why it should fix things.

You have 15 packages that appear to be problematic, which leaves you
with two realistic options:

1. Spend ages tracing each dep down and seeing what gives, or
2. Just run emerge --depclean followed by revdep-rebuild and emerge -uND
world anyway. Sure, it will take some extra compile time, but it will
also filter out the packages that you actually don't have to worry
about.

I'd recommend #2, which will hopefully leave us with a much smaller list
of packages to investigate.

alan




Hi Alan,
  OK, I preceded to let emerge --depclean do it's job and then ran
revdep-rebuild. It said only samba needed to be rebuilt. When that was
complete everything seems clean and happy. No more deps to clean out,
emerge -DuN world has no work to do and revdep-rebuiild says
everything is cool.

  Thanks to you and Bo for your help so far.

  Now on to solving why Evolution is crashing. Hopefully I can get a
good backtrace.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?

[Mick]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 22:41, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

> > Blast! I spoke too soon.  /usr/bin/play plays system sounds fine, but
> > alsa will not mix them.
>
> Do you have an alsa configuration file (e.g. /etc/asoundrc)?  I used dmix a
> while back, and when it changed to being the default, my asoundrc broke
> playback.  You might try deleting (or at least removing any dmix/dsnoop
> entries from) that file.

Thanks Bo,

Actually, I do not have an /etc/asoundrc.  I used to have ~/.asoundrc which I 
moved to #/.asoundrc_OLD back then, when elog told me to do so.  Subsequent 
updates did not recreate it - so I assume it is not needed anymore?
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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?

[Ryan Sims]

On 2/27/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:59:21 +0100
Jakob Buchgraber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> b.n. wrote:
> > Jakob Buchgraber ha scritto:
> >
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I just read about the required ALSA_CARDS variable when using
> >> in-kernel drivers in the Gentoo Newsletter. Since I am using
> >> in-kernel ALSA drivers I would like to know what changed and why
> >> this is required? Is this explained somewhere? I am using
> >> vanilla-sources (not gentoo-sources). So do I need to set
> >> ALSA_CARDS when using vanilla-sources too?
> >>
> >
> > The GWN seems clear:
> > "for users using the in-kernel drivers, they
> > should now properly set that variable"
> >
> > I think that the other alsa packages must be aware of it. Anyway I
> > think setting it shouldn't harm.


Context from the GWN in question:

"In the past days there were a few changes to two ALSA packages,
media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.14_rc2-r1 and
media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.14_rc1-r1. These two ebuilds now make use
of the ALSA_CARDS variable to decide which firmwares to install and
which tools to build."

So it looks to me like it has nothing to do with the kernel.  I can't
check the ebuilds right now, but my guess is that they would explain
what those two packages need the variable for, and what has changed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Jakob Buchgraber 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS 
Variable in-kernel drivers?':
> I just read about the required ALSA_CARDS variable when using in-kernel
> drivers in the Gentoo Newsletter. Since I am using in-kernel ALSA
> drivers I would like to know what changed and why this is required? Is
> this explained somewhere? I am using vanilla-sources (not
> gentoo-sources). So do I need to set ALSA_CARDS when using
> vanilla-sources too?

Flameeyes has been blogging about this.  Basically, there are other 
packages (besides the out-of-tree kernel module package) that will now use 
this package to decide what to install.  Please set it in /etc/make.conf 
appropriately.

http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/02/17/alsa-and-disposable-power-tools
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/02/17/alsa-again-alsa-tools-cleanup
http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2007/02/18/alsa-improvements-part-3

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Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?':
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 06:54, Mick wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 February 2007 00:14, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> > > El Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:53:54 +0100
> > > Alex Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> > > > Mick writes:
> > > > > How am I supposed to specify sox?  /usr/bin/sox doesn't play any
> > > > > sound.
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at this "Do I really need aRts?" thread.
> > > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-526080-highlight-arts.html
> > >
> > > Alternatively you can just use the script "/usr/bin/play", included
> > > in the sox package.
> >
> > Cool! I seem to have missed this in man sox.  It plays system sounds
> > now nicely.
>
> Blast! I spoke too soon.  It /usr/bin/play plays system sounds fine, by
> alsa will not mix them.

Do you have an alsa configuration file (e.g. /etc/asoundrc)?  I used dmix a 
while back, and when it changed to being the default, my asoundrc broke 
playback.  You might try deleting (or at least removing any dmix/dsnoop 
entries from) that file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: 
[gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling':
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Monday 26 February 2007, Dale wrote:
> >> h, I have used less for a lot for things but not files this big.
> >>  I could wear out my page down key.
> >
> > big files the size of emerge.log (8M on my machine) is exactly what
> > less excels at. The most useful key is of course "/" which lets you
> > enter a string of text to search for, then 'q" to quit and "h"
> > displays a help screen

'

Close your single-quotes man! You've turned the rest of your post into a 
non-interpolated string! ;)

> My thing is getting to the bottom of the page in one key stroke.  Maybe
> I need to man less and read a bit.  :/

I believe 'G' should do this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound in RealPlayer

[Mohammed Hagag]

try
#modprobe snd-pcm-oss
if not already loaded or built in the kernel, then run the program.

On 2/26/07, Stewart Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all

I've just updated RealPlayer to version 10. Before the update it all
worked fine, after the update nothing. Starting RealPlayer and looking
at the settings I found that XVideo was checked , no idea why, after
un-checking it I got video back but still no sound. Googling showed I
was not alone but the few fixes offered failed to work for me. Has
anyone any ideas about this?

TIA

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[gentoo-user] Re: accessing serial console yields input/output error

[Strake]

Actually, that was it. The real serial port is /dev/ttyS0. Thanks for
pointing that out.

On 2/27/07, Strake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The subject says it all, really. The kernel recognizes the serial port and
assigns it /dev/ttys0, as dmesg confirms, but any attempt to access
/dev/ttys0, including those made by minicom, setserial and a little test
program that merely opens the file, fails with an "input/output error". This
annoys me to no end. Help is appreciated.

System specs:
kernel 2.6.18-gentoo-r6
x86_64 (AMD)
MSI K8N Diamond Plus

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RE: [gentoo-user] It is Bugday time!

[Timothy A. Holmes]

Hi there!

It is once again Bugday time! We will kick off Bugday in #Gentoo-Bugs on 
Saturday the 3'rd of March! Make sure you will be there!

Hopefully we are able to fix as many bugs as last event, but join in and help 
us reach our goals ;)

Best regards,
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[gentoo-user] Re: accessing serial console yields input/output error

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-02-27, Strake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The subject says it all, really. The kernel recognizes the serial port and
> assigns it /dev/ttys0,

I doubt it.  

Unless you've done some serious kernel hacking, /dev/ttys0 is
the slave end of a pty.

> as dmesg confirms,

I doubt it.

> but any attempt to access /dev/ttys0, including those made by
> minicom, setserial and a little test program that merely opens
> the file, fails with an "input/output error".

That's because the master end of the the pty isn't open.

> This annoys me to no end. Help is appreciated.

Try /dev/ttyS0

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?

[Dan Farrell]

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:59:21 +0100
Jakob Buchgraber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> b.n. wrote:
> > Jakob Buchgraber ha scritto:
> >   
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I just read about the required ALSA_CARDS variable when using
> >> in-kernel drivers in the Gentoo Newsletter. Since I am using
> >> in-kernel ALSA drivers I would like to know what changed and why
> >> this is required? Is this explained somewhere? I am using
> >> vanilla-sources (not gentoo-sources). So do I need to set
> >> ALSA_CARDS when using vanilla-sources too?
> >> 
> >
> > The GWN seems clear:
> > "for users using the in-kernel drivers, they
> > should now properly set that variable"
> >
> > I think that the other alsa packages must be aware of it. Anyway I
> > think setting it shouldn't harm.
> >
> > m.
> >
> >   
> Thank you for your reply!
> 
> It's clear to me that setting the variable doesn't harm however I'd
> like to know why exactly. Does anybody have in-detail informations?
> 
> Cheers,
> Jay
I use the kernel drivers exclusively, and never set ALSA_CARDS or
anything else for that matter.  Emerge alsa-utils and turn up the
volume and it always works for me.  Maybe there's a different reason
for ALSA_CARDS than I understand.  I know the x11 "VIDEO_CARDS" setting
helps not only X, but other programs too, decide which hardware to
support.  The same may be true of ALSA_CARDS.  I would think though,
that this would be most important for people using the ALSA-supplied
drivers, as in-kernel drivers are selected at kernel configuration
time and alsa-provided drivers must use another way to specify which
sound hardware to support.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] accessing serial console yields input/output error

[Dan Farrell]

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:05:59 -0500
Strake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The subject says it all, really. The kernel recognizes the serial
> port and assigns it /dev/ttys0, as dmesg confirms, but any attempt to
> access /dev/ttys0, including those made by minicom, setserial and a
> little test program that merely opens the file, fails with an
> "input/output error". This annoys me to no end. Help is appreciated.
> 
> System specs:
> kernel 2.6.18-gentoo-r6
> x86_64 (AMD)
> MSI K8N Diamond Plus
> 
usually the S in tty names is capitalized in my experience.  I wonder
about IRQs, and about drivers being existant in the kernels.  I wonder
about the attached device - if any.  I also wonder about modules,
whether or not all necessary have been loaded.  

I get the same message catting my serial ports, but to be fair they
aren't plugged in to anything.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet not working after instillition

[Dan Farrell]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:00:21 -0800 (PST)
Harbir Singh Hundal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Hi!
>   
> I have build the system, with kernel-2.6, and during the instillation
> I have emerged dhcpcd, but my internet is not working.
> 
> When I do # ifconfig I can see the assigned IP 192.168.0.2 for eth0,
> and I am using a router as a gateway with address 192.168.0.1
> 
>  
> 
> I am able to ping 192.168.0.1, but when I try to ping www.google.com
> or any other site it gives the message "unknown Host".
> 
>  
> 
> I don’t know what to do now, any sort of help will be appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Harbir
> 
> 
> Regards
>   Harbir Singh Hundal
Steps to manually set up a network device with dhcpcd
# dhcpcd eth0
# echo "search mynetwork.net
nameserver 192.168.0.1
" > /etc/resolv.conf

You would want to replace mynetwork.net and 192.168.0.1 with
appropriate values for your domain and nameserver, respectively.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] What if the firewall doesn't start?

[Dan Farrell]

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:11:33 -0800
Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > > > > Anyway, a closed port remains closed whether a firewall is
> > > > > > running, or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the firewall specified which ports to open/close.
> > > >
> > > > Not quite, but we might be running into terminology here.
> > > >
> > > > The app that is listening a port opens the port. This has
> > > > nothing to do with the firewall. The firewall is simply an
> > > > extra level of checks applied before the packet is allowed
> > > > thorugh the firewall to be received by the kernel, in the same
> > > > way that a bouncer allows or disallows the public to enter a
> > > > club. If the bouncer is off sick, the public gets to walk
> > > > through the door up to reception, assuming the club is open for
> > > > business.
> > > >
> > > > What Mick was referring to is that if a service is running, it's
> > > > still going to listen on it's port whether iptables is running
> > > > or not. So, in the absense of iptables (i.e. your bouncer is off
> > > > sick), you hopefully have a decent password strategy in use by
> > > > whatever is actually listening on the box.
> > >
> > > So as far as incoming connections are concerned, if there are no
> > > listening applications, there is no need for a firewall?
> >
> > Technically yes. In the real world, it depends. The theory will
> > work if and only if you can absolutely guarantee that no listening
> > service will ever be running behind that firewall, and that this
> > will always be true from here on out till the end of time
> > regardless of who has access to the machine.
> >
> > That's a tall order, and leaves human nature out of it. You might
> > install a listening app and leave it running in error without
> > realising the impact of not having a firewall. Someone else might
> > do the same.
> >
> > Ubuntu takes the approach you just asked about and it mostly works
> > well, especially for notebooks on a LAN behind a NATing gateway. If
> > you are running a network with valuable private information on it,
> > you might well prefer a belts and braces approach of having a
> > mostly-closed firewall as well.
> >
> > As always, the best solution will vary according to what *you* need
> 
> On more question, is default the right runlevel in which to run
> shorewall?  It looks like it's one of the last services to start that
> way.
> 
> - Grant
You could probably run it sooner, but it might try to bring up your
network interfaces before starting.  But, as long as the interfaces'
device nodes exist, whether or not the connection is up shouldn't
matter.  You could move it to the boot level, probably, if you were
worried about security while the computer boots. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] What's the dmix equivalent these days?

[Mick]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 06:54, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 00:14, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> > El Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:53:54 +0100
> >
> > Alex Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> > > Mick writes:
> > > > How am I supposed to specify sox?  /usr/bin/sox doesn't play any
> > > > sound.
> > >
> > > Have a look at this "Do I really need aRts?" thread, in the middle it
> > > says:
> > >
> > >  "now, copy this script into /usr/bin/Ksplay:
> > >
> > >#! /bin/sh
> > >sox "$@" -v 1.0 -q -t alsa default &
> > >
> > >   emerge sox to get an external sound player for
> > >   kdm events. Go into the control center, click
> > >   system notifications and click "player settings"
> > >   near the bottom. Click "use external player"
> > >   and then type /usr/bin/Ksplay.
> > >  "
> > >
> > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-526080-highlight-arts.html
> > >
> > >   Alex
> >
> > Alternatively you can just use the script "/usr/bin/play", included in
> > the sox package.
>
> Cool! I seem to have missed this in man sox.  It plays system sounds now
> nicely.

Blast! I spoke too soon.  It /usr/bin/play plays system sounds fine, by alsa 
will not mix them if e.g. amarok is playing in the background.  It's either 
one or the other.  Do I need to rebuild kdelibs without arts for it to work?  
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[gentoo-user] It is Bugday time!

[Alexander Færøy]

Hi there!

It is once again Bugday time! We will kick off Bugday in #Gentoo-Bugs on
Saturday the 3'rd of March! Make sure you will be there!

Hopefully we are able to fix as many bugs as last event, but join in and
help us reach our goals ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?

[Jakob Buchgraber]

b.n. wrote:

Jakob Buchgraber ha scritto:
  

Hi!

I just read about the required ALSA_CARDS variable when using in-kernel
drivers in the Gentoo Newsletter. Since I am using in-kernel ALSA
drivers I would like to know what changed and why this is required? Is
this explained somewhere? I am using vanilla-sources (not
gentoo-sources). So do I need to set ALSA_CARDS when using
vanilla-sources too?



The GWN seems clear:
"for users using the in-kernel drivers, they
should now properly set that variable"

I think that the other alsa packages must be aware of it. Anyway I think
setting it shouldn't harm.

m.

  

Thank you for your reply!

It's clear to me that setting the variable doesn't harm however I'd like 
to know why exactly. Does anybody have in-detail informations?


Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage problem with xfce4-panel

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 17:38:49 Grant wrote:
> I just did an emerge --sync; emerge world and I'm having some trouble with:
>
> 
> I unmerged xfce4-panel but I still get the above blocking message.  A
> pretend emerge of xfce4-panel confirms that it is not installed.  How
> can I resolve this?

This really is a great example of a question with too little information 
provided? What were you trying to emerge? What's in your package.keywords 
(only xfce entries are relevant here)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Monday 26 February 2007, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> It may be the wrong tool, but it has always worked before.  I tend to
>> use what works.  I said this in a reply somewhere before.  By the
>> time I get good at using a command, like the now extinct etcat, they
>> change it to something else with a whole different set of options.
>>  I'm hoping things will settle down then I can learn all this once.
>> 
>
> kwrite is an editor designed to edit smallish files, similar but 
> slightly better than notepad. Like all small editors, it probably loads 
> the entire file into memory before displaying it, and it gets very 
> confused with some contents, thinking that they are blocks of code that 
> can be collapsed.
>
> The program landscape will never settle down and leave you with a 
> definite set of programs - Linux lives, breathes, grows and evolves 
> almost exactly the way human societies do - always changing, always 
> adapting and never the same in any two places.
>
> A few base programs you can rely on though - like less. It's a file 
> viewer, designed to make it easy for you to look at the contents of 
> files. It's also the thing that displays man pages. I highly recommend 
> spending the few minutes it takes to get used to using it. It runs from 
> a terminal, which is also worth spending some time to get used to it.
>   

I use a terminal a lot.  I use less pretty often too.  It's just that I
got used to Kwrite and it was working fine for me.  I don't knock what
is working.  ;-)  I always use man to display man pages.  Am I weird?

>   
>> Of course, if you wish to share a few commands with options and what
>> they do, that may help.  I'm not sure I even know what all the
>> commands are right now.  I got to much on my brain right now.  It is
>> like mush.
>>
>> h, I have used less for a lot for things but not files this big.
>>  I could wear out my page down key.  LOL  At least I don't have to
>> look into the emerge.log very often.  That's good.
>> 
>
> big files the size of emerge.log (8M on my machine) is exactly what less 
> excels at. The most useful key is of course "/" which lets you enter a 
> string of text to search for, then 'q" to quit and "h" displays a help 
> screen
>
> alan
>
>
>   

My thing is getting to the bottom of the page in one key stroke.  Maybe
I need to man less and read a bit.  :/

Oh well, time to learn something I guess.  It seems Kwrite is off the
path for a while.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql build error

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 19:41:37 Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > CXXFLAGS="O3"
> >
> > And yet you did... ;)
>
> Hm... That never was a problem with mysql before. Not even with versions
> that do not compile anymore but did in the past.
>
> Here are the relevant lines in make.conf:
> CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
> CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
>
> That should not cause the dash to be omitted. Anyway, I will give it a try
> after copying CFLAGS over to CXXFLAGS verbatim.
>
> Will let you know about the outcome.

Are you sure there isn't a second entry setting CXXFLAGS=O3? Or perhaps in 
your env?

# grep CXXFLAGS /etc/make.conf
# env | grep CXXFLAGS

> Or are you referring to "-O3" in itself? Same applies here. Never caused a
> problem with mysql. See above.

No, I was referring to the missing dash. From your config.log:

configure:40088: i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c  -DDBUG_OFF 
O3 -DHAVE_ERRNO_AS_DEFINE=1 -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing 
-felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-implicit-templates   
-fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti  
conftest.cpp >&5
i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: O3: No such file or directory

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?

[b.n.]

Jakob Buchgraber ha scritto:
> Hi!
> 
> I just read about the required ALSA_CARDS variable when using in-kernel
> drivers in the Gentoo Newsletter. Since I am using in-kernel ALSA
> drivers I would like to know what changed and why this is required? Is
> this explained somewhere? I am using vanilla-sources (not
> gentoo-sources). So do I need to set ALSA_CARDS when using
> vanilla-sources too?

The GWN seems clear:
"for users using the in-kernel drivers, they
should now properly set that variable"

I think that the other alsa packages must be aware of it. Anyway I think
setting it shouldn't harm.

m.

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[gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS Variable in-kernel drivers?

[Jakob Buchgraber]

Hi!

I just read about the required ALSA_CARDS variable when using in-kernel 
drivers in the Gentoo Newsletter. Since I am using in-kernel ALSA 
drivers I would like to know what changed and why this is required? Is 
this explained somewhere? I am using vanilla-sources (not 
gentoo-sources). So do I need to set ALSA_CARDS when using 
vanilla-sources too?


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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql build error

[Uwe Thiem]

On 27 February 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 18:21:26 Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > > I guess you didn't look at closed bugs then...
> > >
> > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143298
> > >
> > > If your problem is different then I suggest you post your config.log.
> > > And perhaps even emerge --info.
> >
> > indeed, my problem is different. It has been a long time since I last
> > made a mistake such as the described one without noticing it. ;-)
>
> [SNIP]
>
> > CXXFLAGS="O3"
>
> And yet you did... ;)

Hm... That never was a problem with mysql before. Not even with versions that 
do not compile anymore but did in the past.

Here are the relevant lines in make.conf:
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

That should not cause the dash to be omitted. Anyway, I will give it a try 
after copying CFLAGS over to CXXFLAGS verbatim.

Will let you know about the outcome.

Or are you referring to "-O3" in itself? Same applies here. Never caused a 
problem with mysql. See above.

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[gentoo-user] Re: graphviz workaround

[James]

Daniel Iliev  ilievnet.com> writes:


> Please, provide me (if you can) with any reasonable workaround for bug
> #167978 [1].
> (graphviz has broken dependencies pulling two conflicting versions of


cat /etc/portage/package.mask


>=media-libs/gd-2.0.34


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[gentoo-user] graphviz workaround

[Daniel Iliev]

Hi, everyone!

Please, provide me (if you can) with any reasonable workaround for bug
#167978 [1].
(graphviz has broken dependencies pulling two conflicting versions of gd)

It breaks "emerge world" and I'm doing all by hand with "emerge -1
" from the list of packages with updates. Of course this drives
me crazy and I'm looking for some kind of workaround.


[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167978



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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql build error

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 18:21:26 Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > I guess you didn't look at closed bugs then...
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143298
> >
> > If your problem is different then I suggest you post your config.log. And
> > perhaps even emerge --info.
>
> indeed, my problem is different. It has been a long time since I last made
> a mistake such as the described one without noticing it. ;-)
[SNIP]
> CXXFLAGS="O3"

And yet you did... ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql build error

[Uwe Thiem]

On 27 February 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 08:51:58 Uwe Thiem wrote:
> >  can't seem to build any version of mysql. Here is the error:
> >
> > checking HIST_ENTRY is declared in readline/readline.h...
> > configure: error: Could not find system readline or libedit libraries
> >           Use --with-readline or --with-libedit to use the bundled
> >           versions of libedit or readline
> >
> > Readline is installed. If I add "readline" or "libedit" to my USE flags
> > for mysql those options aren't passed on to configure, and I end up with
> > exactly the same error.
> >
> > Same for earlier versions of mysql.
> >
> > I did have a look at the bugs and forums but couldn't find anything like
> > this. So if nobody runs into the same problem I must assume something is
> > wrong with my system.
> >
> > But what? Any ideas?
>
> I guess you didn't look at closed bugs then...
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143298
>
> If your problem is different then I suggest you post your config.log. And
> perhaps even emerge --info.

indeed, my problem is different. It has been a long time since I last made a 
mistake such as the described one without noticing it. ;-)

config.log is rather long. So instead of posting it here I uploaded it. You 
can get it here:
http://www.SysEx.com.na/config.log.gz

uwix uwe # emerge --info
Portage 2.1.2-r11 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.5-r0, 
2.6.18-gentoo-r1 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.18-gentoo-r1 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:00:01 +
distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) 
[disabled]
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.31-r3
dev-lang/python: 2.3.6, 2.4.4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.17
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.14
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.23b
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.20-r1
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/NX/etc /usr/NX/home /usr/kde/3.2/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.3/env /usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown 
/usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown 
/usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown 
/usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf 
/etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/splash /etc/terminfo 
/etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="O3"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://212.219.56.146/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ 
http://212.219.56.162/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/";
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress 
--force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages 
--filter=H_**/files/digest-*"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X aac aalib alsa apache2 apm arts asf berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr cli 
cracklib crypt cups doc dri dts dvd dvdread eds emboss encode esd ffmpeg flac 
foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk2 hal iconv imlib ipv6 isdnlog 
jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad midi mikmod mmx mmx2 motif mp3 mpeg mplayer 
ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl oss pam pcre perl png pppd python qt3 
quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl sse sse2 ssl tcpd 
truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis win32codecs x264 x86 xml xorg xv 
zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci 
emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 
intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" 
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file 
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate 
route share shm softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" 
KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 
mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="apm ark ati chips cirrus 
cyrix dummy fbdev glint i128 i740 i810 imstt mga neomagic nsc nv rendition s3 
s3virge savage siliconmotion sis sisusb tdfx tga trident tseng v4l vesa vga 
via vmware voodoo"
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, 
LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS


Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] What if the firewall doesn't start?

[Grant]

> > > > Anyway, a closed port remains closed whether a firewall is
> > > > running, or not.
> > >
> > > I thought the firewall specified which ports to open/close.
> >
> > Not quite, but we might be running into terminology here.
> >
> > The app that is listening a port opens the port. This has nothing
> > to do with the firewall. The firewall is simply an extra level of
> > checks applied before the packet is allowed thorugh the firewall to
> > be received by the kernel, in the same way that a bouncer allows or
> > disallows the public to enter a club. If the bouncer is off sick,
> > the public gets to walk through the door up to reception, assuming
> > the club is open for business.
> >
> > What Mick was referring to is that if a service is running, it's
> > still going to listen on it's port whether iptables is running or
> > not. So, in the absense of iptables (i.e. your bouncer is off
> > sick), you hopefully have a decent password strategy in use by
> > whatever is actually listening on the box.
>
> So as far as incoming connections are concerned, if there are no
> listening applications, there is no need for a firewall?

Technically yes. In the real world, it depends. The theory will work if
and only if you can absolutely guarantee that no listening service will
ever be running behind that firewall, and that this will always be true
from here on out till the end of time regardless of who has access to
the machine.

That's a tall order, and leaves human nature out of it. You might
install a listening app and leave it running in error without realising
the impact of not having a firewall. Someone else might do the same.

Ubuntu takes the approach you just asked about and it mostly works well,
especially for notebooks on a LAN behind a NATing gateway. If you are
running a network with valuable private information on it, you might
well prefer a belts and braces approach of having a mostly-closed
firewall as well.

As always, the best solution will vary according to what *you* need


On more question, is default the right runlevel in which to run
shorewall?  It looks like it's one of the last services to start that
way.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem installing GRUB

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Marco Schuler wrote:
> > > As yesterday, I don't have my notebook at hand. I will check
> > > tonight. What should be the content of device.map? Is it
> > > generated by grub?
> >
> > With your one and only drive it will look like this:
> >
> > (hd0)   /dev/hda
> >
> > It describes a mapping between linux disk devices and what grub
> > will call them.
>
> Who generates this file? Grub, default from Gentoo?

I believe grub-install creates it. 

> > I just thought of something else: when you run grub-install, are
> > you doing it from a properly booted system, from inside a chroot,
> > from a rescue disk (where your gentoo filesystem is mounted
> > somewhere), or a different environment altogether?
>
> I am following the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook. So I run the
> installation cd, and call grub-install from within the chroot
> environment (I work remotely using a ssh conection to the
> installation machine)

OK. 

Do you have a separate /boot partition? Is it mounted? If so, you should 
be using:

grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda




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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 26 February 2007, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 26 February 2007 20:42, Dale wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > To *look* at emerge.log, one uses less. Or more. Or most.
>
> Hmm, what is "most"?  :)

An app that is supposed to be better than less, the same way that less 
is better than more. It never caught on though


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kwrite and CPU usage and locking up when scrolling

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 26 February 2007, Dale wrote:

> It may be the wrong tool, but it has always worked before.  I tend to
> use what works.  I said this in a reply somewhere before.  By the
> time I get good at using a command, like the now extinct etcat, they
> change it to something else with a whole different set of options.
>  I'm hoping things will settle down then I can learn all this once.

kwrite is an editor designed to edit smallish files, similar but 
slightly better than notepad. Like all small editors, it probably loads 
the entire file into memory before displaying it, and it gets very 
confused with some contents, thinking that they are blocks of code that 
can be collapsed.

The program landscape will never settle down and leave you with a 
definite set of programs - Linux lives, breathes, grows and evolves 
almost exactly the way human societies do - always changing, always 
adapting and never the same in any two places.

A few base programs you can rely on though - like less. It's a file 
viewer, designed to make it easy for you to look at the contents of 
files. It's also the thing that displays man pages. I highly recommend 
spending the few minutes it takes to get used to using it. It runs from 
a terminal, which is also worth spending some time to get used to it.

> Of course, if you wish to share a few commands with options and what
> they do, that may help.  I'm not sure I even know what all the
> commands are right now.  I got to much on my brain right now.  It is
> like mush.
>
> h, I have used less for a lot for things but not files this big.
>  I could wear out my page down key.  LOL  At least I don't have to
> look into the emerge.log very often.  That's good.

big files the size of emerge.log (8M on my machine) is exactly what less 
excels at. The most useful key is of course "/" which lets you enter a 
string of text to search for, then 'q" to quit and "h" displays a help 
screen

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to remove required packages

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 16:47:15 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > You have a bunch of packages that --depclean wants to remove. It
> > > looks like they should not be removed.
> >
> > A bit curious how you've reached that conclusion? Why shouldn't they?
>
> The OP said in his original mail
>
> "when I run emerge
> --depclean wants remove packages that would break dependencies"
>
> Presumably he knows his system well enough to know that the packages in
> question are necessary.
>
> I probably worded my statement wrongly as well. As written it implies
> that --depclean erroneously wants to remove things that should remain
> according to information in the ebuilds. I should have said --depclean
> wants to remove things that the OP would prefer to remain.

There are at least three reasons why you cannot rely on `equery depends` to 
tell you if a dependency which `emerge --depclean` is going to remove is 
required or not.

1) USE conditionals. This is adressed in latest ~arch gentoolkit (0.2.3) which 
prints the conditional. You still have to check the conditional yourself.

2) "|| ( bar baz )" blocks. `equery depends bar` and `equery depends baz` will 
print foo as depending on them. portage and hence `emerge --depclean` only 
requires one of them to satisfy the dep.

3) If the ebuild exists in the tree and has been modified since it was 
installed `emerge --depclean` will use the modified ebuild from the tree. 
`equery depend` will use the ebuild that was installed in /var/db/pkg.

In most if not all cases when `emerge --depclean` and `equery depends` 
disagree the former is correct (as of portage-2.1.1 at least (or 2.1?)). If 
you want to verify it with the latter you need to investigate the ebuild to 
see if any of the mentioned three cases apply...

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[gentoo-user] Portage problem with xfce4-panel

[Grant]

I just did an emerge --sync; emerge world and I'm having some trouble with:

Re: [gentoo-user] What if the firewall doesn't start?

[Grant]

> > > > Anyway, a closed port remains closed whether a firewall is
> > > > running, or not.
> > >
> > > I thought the firewall specified which ports to open/close.
> >
> > Not quite, but we might be running into terminology here.
> >
> > The app that is listening a port opens the port. This has nothing
> > to do with the firewall. The firewall is simply an extra level of
> > checks applied before the packet is allowed thorugh the firewall to
> > be received by the kernel, in the same way that a bouncer allows or
> > disallows the public to enter a club. If the bouncer is off sick,
> > the public gets to walk through the door up to reception, assuming
> > the club is open for business.
> >
> > What Mick was referring to is that if a service is running, it's
> > still going to listen on it's port whether iptables is running or
> > not. So, in the absense of iptables (i.e. your bouncer is off
> > sick), you hopefully have a decent password strategy in use by
> > whatever is actually listening on the box.
>
> So as far as incoming connections are concerned, if there are no
> listening applications, there is no need for a firewall?

Technically yes. In the real world, it depends. The theory will work if
and only if you can absolutely guarantee that no listening service will
ever be running behind that firewall, and that this will always be true
from here on out till the end of time regardless of who has access to
the machine.

That's a tall order, and leaves human nature out of it. You might
install a listening app and leave it running in error without realising
the impact of not having a firewall. Someone else might do the same.

Ubuntu takes the approach you just asked about and it mostly works well,
especially for notebooks on a LAN behind a NATing gateway. If you are
running a network with valuable private information on it, you might
well prefer a belts and braces approach of having a mostly-closed
firewall as well.

As always, the best solution will vary according to what *you* need


Very informative.  Thanks guys.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem installing GRUB

[Marco Schuler]

Hi,

On 2/27/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Marco Schuler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2/26/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Monday 26 February 2007, Marco Schuler wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > after using other distributions for years I finally decided to go
> > > with gentto to have to most flexibility. So here I am :-)
> > >
> > > I got trough the gentoo installation up to the point of
> > > installing grub. After the command 'grub-install /dev/hda' my
> > > machine hangs displaying the following meassage:
> > >Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long
> > > time
> >
> > You are installing grub to an IDE device. Is that how you normally
> > address that device? It might be a SATA drive
>
> The device that I am installing grub to is a IDE device. So the
> addressing should be ok. It is also mounted as /dev/hdaXY.

OK, that's all fine then

> > What is the contents of your device.map file? I've seen that cause
> > grub to search endlessly for a device that isn't there
>
> As yesterday, I don't have my notebook at hand. I will check tonight.
> What should be the content of device.map? Is it generated by grub?

With your one and only drive it will look like this:

(hd0)   /dev/hda

It describes a mapping between linux disk devices and what grub will
call them.


Who generates this file? Grub, default from Gentoo?


I just thought of something else: when you run grub-install, are you
doing it from a properly booted system, from inside a chroot, from a
rescue disk (where your gentoo filesystem is mounted somewhere), or a
different environment altogether?


I am following the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook. So I run the
installation cd, and call grub-install from within the chroot
environment (I work remotely using a ssh conection to the installation
machine)

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to remove required packages

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 26 February 2007, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Monday 26 February 2007 20:43:09 Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > You have a bunch of packages that --depclean wants to remove. It
> > looks like they should not be removed.
>
> A bit curious how you've reached that conclusion? Why shouldn't they?

The OP said in his original mail 

"when I run emerge
--depclean wants remove packages that would break dependencies"

Presumably he knows his system well enough to know that the packages in 
question are necessary.

I probably worded my statement wrongly as well. As written it implies 
that --depclean erroneously wants to remove things that should remain 
according to information in the ebuilds. I should have said --depclean 
wants to remove things that the OP would prefer to remain.

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean wants to remove required packages

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Mark Knecht wrote:

[ snip lots of useful bacground info]

> > 2. If you never had gnome installed but did have evo installed,
> > then removed evo, everything looks proper.
> >
> > So, let --depclean do it's thing. Then emerge -uND world and run
> > revder-rebuild to fix anything that remains.
>
> Based on my response above should I be doing this? From the info I
> posted earlier if I emerge -C jasper, as --depclean wants to do, then
> it seems it will just be emerged again at emerge -DuN world.
>
> I'm happy to do it if it's the right thing to do. I'm just not
> understanding why it should fix things.

You have 15 packages that appear to be problematic, which leaves you 
with two realistic options:

1. Spend ages tracing each dep down and seeing what gives, or
2. Just run emerge --depclean followed by revdep-rebuild and emerge -uND 
world anyway. Sure, it will take some extra compile time, but it will 
also filter out the packages that you actually don't have to worry 
about.

I'd recommend #2, which will hopefully leave us with a much smaller list 
of packages to investigate.

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql build error

[Daniel Iliev]

Uwe Thiem wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I can't seem to build any version of mysql. Here is the error:
>
> checking HIST_ENTRY is declared in readline/readline.h...
> configure: error: Could not find system readline or libedit libraries
>   Use --with-readline or --with-libedit to use the bundled
>   versions of libedit or readline
>
> Readline is installed. If I add "readline" or "libedit" to my USE flags for 
> mysql those options aren't passed on to configure, and I end up with exactly 
> the same error.
>
> Same for earlier versions of mysql.
>
> I did have a look at the bugs and forums but couldn't find anything like 
> this. 
> So if nobody runs into the same problem I must assume something is wrong with 
> my system.
>
> But what? Any ideas?
>
> Uwe
>
>   

Did you try "emerge --newuse mysql" after adding "readline" to your USE
flags?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What if the firewall doesn't start?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Grant wrote:
> > > > Anyway, a closed port remains closed whether a firewall is
> > > > running, or not.
> > >
> > > I thought the firewall specified which ports to open/close.
> >
> > Not quite, but we might be running into terminology here.
> >
> > The app that is listening a port opens the port. This has nothing
> > to do with the firewall. The firewall is simply an extra level of
> > checks applied before the packet is allowed thorugh the firewall to
> > be received by the kernel, in the same way that a bouncer allows or
> > disallows the public to enter a club. If the bouncer is off sick,
> > the public gets to walk through the door up to reception, assuming
> > the club is open for business.
> >
> > What Mick was referring to is that if a service is running, it's
> > still going to listen on it's port whether iptables is running or
> > not. So, in the absense of iptables (i.e. your bouncer is off
> > sick), you hopefully have a decent password strategy in use by
> > whatever is actually listening on the box.
>
> So as far as incoming connections are concerned, if there are no
> listening applications, there is no need for a firewall?

Technically yes. In the real world, it depends. The theory will work if 
and only if you can absolutely guarantee that no listening service will 
ever be running behind that firewall, and that this will always be true 
from here on out till the end of time regardless of who has access to 
the machine.

That's a tall order, and leaves human nature out of it. You might 
install a listening app and leave it running in error without realising 
the impact of not having a firewall. Someone else might do the same.

Ubuntu takes the approach you just asked about and it mostly works well, 
especially for notebooks on a LAN behind a NATing gateway. If you are 
running a network with valuable private information on it, you might 
well prefer a belts and braces approach of having a mostly-closed 
firewall as well.

As always, the best solution will vary according to what *you* need

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem installing GRUB

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Marco Schuler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2/26/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Monday 26 February 2007, Marco Schuler wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > after using other distributions for years I finally decided to go
> > > with gentto to have to most flexibility. So here I am :-)
> > >
> > > I got trough the gentoo installation up to the point of
> > > installing grub. After the command 'grub-install /dev/hda' my
> > > machine hangs displaying the following meassage:
> > >Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long
> > > time
> >
> > You are installing grub to an IDE device. Is that how you normally
> > address that device? It might be a SATA drive
>
> The device that I am installing grub to is a IDE device. So the
> addressing should be ok. It is also mounted as /dev/hdaXY.

OK, that's all fine then

> > What is the contents of your device.map file? I've seen that cause
> > grub to search endlessly for a device that isn't there
>
> As yesterday, I don't have my notebook at hand. I will check tonight.
> What should be the content of device.map? Is it generated by grub?

With your one and only drive it will look like this:

(hd0)   /dev/hda

It describes a mapping between linux disk devices and what grub will 
call them. 

I just thought of something else: when you run grub-install, are you 
doing it from a properly booted system, from inside a chroot, from a 
rescue disk (where your gentoo filesystem is mounted somewhere), or a 
different environment altogether?

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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to emerge libwnck

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 15:10:23 Stefán István wrote:
> > Please answer the questions in comment #3 on bug #159563.
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159563#c3
>
> My glib version is 2.8.5, so probably this is the problem.
> Can I just simply upgrade it to 2.12.7, and every other already installed
> packages will work with it?

I meant answer the question by commenting on the bug (admittedly that wasn't 
clear). ;) It's currently marked NEEDINFO because noone has replied to that 
comment. But yes, at most you need to run revdep-rebuild after upgrading 
glib.

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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to emerge libwnck

[Stefán István]

kedd 27 február 2007 13.33 dátummal Bo Ørsted Andresen ezt írta:
> On Monday 26 February 2007 18:33:52 Stefán István wrote:
> > Hello!
> > I would like to install beryl, but it needs a lot of package upgrade, and
> > one of them fails to compile. Tha package is x11-libs/libwnck-2.16.3 and
> > the error message is:
> > ../.libs/libwnck-1.so: undefined reference to `g_object_ref_sink'
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > make[2]: *** [test-pager] Error 1
> > make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> > /.libs/libwnck-1.so: undefined reference to `g_object_ref_sink'
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> >
> > Can someone help me to find out whats wrong?
> 
> Please answer the questions in comment #3 on bug #159563.
> 
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159563#c3

My glib version is 2.8.5, so probably this is the problem.
Can I just simply upgrade it to 2.12.7, and every other already installed 
packages will work with it?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle eating up Resources!! (BEagled-index-helper)

[Jürgen Geuter]

On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 14:21 +0100, Kristian Poul Herkild wrote:

> Beagle is not supposed to use an awful lot of CPU-time, except for rare
> peaks. If it uses a lot of CPU-cycles for more than a few seconds it's a
> bug - most likely in a plug-in. Especially the SVG plug-in tends to have
> issues.

Well it started to get really annoying when I added my
ebook/documentation directory to the scanned dirs (it's an nfs share
with PDFs), that made the beagled-helper thingy go berzerk on my poor
old processor. Maybe that is an nfs thing, or the PDFs were nasty.
Having it scan just my home dir was OK most of the time, I admit. But
the Documentation/Ebook indexing was pretty much the only reason I was
looking into beagle in the first place ;)

> The memory consumption is however quite high.

Yeah that was another thing bugging me, having some merge running in the
background and beagle kicking in made this thing crawl :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] Question regarding dual boot accessibility... (SOLVED)

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I'd like to thank Mick and Peter for their replies to this question.
I've been able to solve the problem with users not being able to access
the NTFS volume.  I will consider the ntfs3g package, so I can write to
that partition.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle eating up Resources!! (BEagled-index-helper)

[Kristian Poul Herkild]

Jürgen Geuter skrev:
> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 18:09 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
>> Does anyone here knows if beagle really sucks up resources?? I just
>> emerged it a week ago and I'm getting very pissed off at it as it's
>> using a lot of resources. The laptop doesn't get much idle time.
> 
> Beagle is quite a resource hog and will keep your system busy whenever
> it finds it to be "idle", that is the reason why I decided to ditch it
> (I wasn't using the search functionality that much anyways).
> 
> You could make sure that "beagled" is not started upon login, that way
> it will not do autoscanning of your files and only start when you use
> it.
> 
> regards
> 
> Jürgen

Beagle is not supposed to use an awful lot of CPU-time, except for rare
peaks. If it uses a lot of CPU-cycles for more than a few seconds it's a
bug - most likely in a plug-in. Especially the SVG plug-in tends to have
issues.

The memory consumption is however quite high.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle eating up Resources!! (BEagled-index-helper)

[Kristian Poul Herkild]

Ow Mun Heng skrev:
> Does anyone here knows if beagle really sucks up resources?? I just
> emerged it a week ago and I'm getting very pissed off at it as it's
> using a lot of resources. The laptop doesn't get much idle time.
> 
> 
> 

It is most likely due a bug in one of the plug-ins. I usually have
beagle-helper running at close to 100% because of some SVG-files with
malformed XML.

You might want to take a look at the FAQ at Beagle's website.

Beagle is not supposed to take a lot of resources, nor wasting
CPU-cycles while running in an endless empty loop.


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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to emerge libwnck

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Monday 26 February 2007 18:33:52 Stefán István wrote:
> Hello!
> I would like to install beryl, but it needs a lot of package upgrade, and
> one of them fails to compile. Tha package is x11-libs/libwnck-2.16.3 and
> the error message is:
> ../.libs/libwnck-1.so: undefined reference to `g_object_ref_sink'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[2]: *** [test-pager] Error 1
> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> /.libs/libwnck-1.so: undefined reference to `g_object_ref_sink'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> Can someone help me to find out whats wrong?

Please answer the questions in comment #3 on bug #159563.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159563#c3

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Re: [gentoo-user] mysql build error

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 08:51:58 Uwe Thiem wrote:
>  can't seem to build any version of mysql. Here is the error:
>
> checking HIST_ENTRY is declared in readline/readline.h...
> configure: error: Could not find system readline or libedit libraries
>           Use --with-readline or --with-libedit to use the bundled
>           versions of libedit or readline
>
> Readline is installed. If I add "readline" or "libedit" to my USE flags for
> mysql those options aren't passed on to configure, and I end up with
> exactly the same error.
>
> Same for earlier versions of mysql.
>
> I did have a look at the bugs and forums but couldn't find anything like
> this. So if nobody runs into the same problem I must assume something is
> wrong with my system.
>
> But what? Any ideas?

I guess you didn't look at closed bugs then...

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143298

If your problem is different then I suggest you post your config.log. And 
perhaps even emerge --info.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle eating up Resources!! (BEagled-index-helper)

[Jürgen Geuter]

On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 18:09 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> Does anyone here knows if beagle really sucks up resources?? I just
> emerged it a week ago and I'm getting very pissed off at it as it's
> using a lot of resources. The laptop doesn't get much idle time.

Beagle is quite a resource hog and will keep your system busy whenever
it finds it to be "idle", that is the reason why I decided to ditch it
(I wasn't using the search functionality that much anyways).

You could make sure that "beagled" is not started upon login, that way
it will not do autoscanning of your files and only start when you use
it.

regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bon Echo (why?)

[Jürgen Geuter]

On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 18:51 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

> IIRC, there was also a similar issue with the name "Pheonix".

I always thought that it could not be called Phoenix anymore because of
the BIOS manufacturer (http://phoenix.com)?

regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet not working after instillition

[Harbir Singh Hundal]

Thanx guys!

I think i did copy resolv.conf during instilation, but anyway I have recopied 
and not its working.

Appreciate all of yours help
:)

Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Harbir Singh Hundal wrote: Thanx for the 
reply.
   
 I think there is some problem with my resolv.com
   
 the contents of my  resolv.conf file are:
   
   domain homemetwork
   
   Please let me know what should be comming here.
 I think I need to put the gateway address here.
   
   
   
   Ryan Curtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
 
 It would seem to me that your DHCP server is not set correctly. Can you
 post your /etc/resolv.conf? That would help. Also, try pinging
 216.239.51.99. This is the IP of www.google.com.
 
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 Actually the DNS info goes in that file.  You may can just copy that over from 
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that connects to the internet.  You may want to read /etc/conf.d/net.example to 
see if one of the examples in there applies to you.  If one does, copy only the 
parts you need to /etc/conf.d/net.  
 
 Also, don't forget to try to ping as requested in the previous email.  That 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start gvim

[Jules Colding]

On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 11:48 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 11:22:18 Jules Colding wrote:
> > I've now been unable to start gvim for a few months. It is complaining
> > about missing fontsets (whatever that means). I've pasted the terminal
> > output here:
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/work/src/brutus/idl/products/evolution/2.4 $ gvim
> >Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> >Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
> >Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
> >Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
> >Error: Aborting: no fontset found
> >
> > Any idea on how to make gvim happy?
> 
> I suggest you try the suggestion on bug #147830 and comment on the bug with 
> the result..
> 
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147830

Thanks,
  jules


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[gentoo-user] accessing serial console yields input/output error

[Strake]

The subject says it all, really. The kernel recognizes the serial port and
assigns it /dev/ttys0, as dmesg confirms, but any attempt to access
/dev/ttys0, including those made by minicom, setserial and a little test
program that merely opens the file, fails with an "input/output error". This
annoys me to no end. Help is appreciated.

System specs:
kernel 2.6.18-gentoo-r6
x86_64 (AMD)
MSI K8N Diamond Plus

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't start gvim

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Tuesday 27 February 2007 11:22:18 Jules Colding wrote:
> I've now been unable to start gvim for a few months. It is complaining
> about missing fontsets (whatever that means). I've pasted the terminal
> output here:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/work/src/brutus/idl/products/evolution/2.4 $ gvim
>Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
>Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
>Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
>Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
>Error: Aborting: no fontset found
>
> Any idea on how to make gvim happy?

I suggest you try the suggestion on bug #147830 and comment on the bug with 
the result..

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147830

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[gentoo-user] Can't start gvim

[Jules Colding]

Hi,

I've now been unable to start gvim for a few months. It is complaining
about missing fontsets (whatever that means). I've pasted the terminal
output here:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/work/src/brutus/idl/products/evolution/2.4 $ gvim
   Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
   Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
   Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
   Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
   Error: Aborting: no fontset found

Any idea on how to make gvim happy?

Thanks,
  jules



# emerge --info 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/work/src/brutus/idl/products/evolution/2.4 $ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.2-r9 (default-linux/amd64/2006.1, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.5-r0, 
2.6.19-gentoo-r5 x86_64)
=
System uname: 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 x86_64 AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 252
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:20:01 +
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.31
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r3, 2.4.3-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.14
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.22
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.17-r1
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf 
/etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo/ 
http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ 
http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ 
ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.no/ 
http://gentoo.prz.rzeszow.pl http://ftp.du.se/pub/os/gentoo 
ftp://mirror.pudas.net/gentoo";
LC_ALL="en_US.utf8"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress 
--force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X aac aalib alsa amd64 apache2 berkdb bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 cdr 
cli cracklib crypt cups dri dvd dvdr dvdread emacs fam fbcon firefox foomaticdb 
fortran gdbm gnome gpm gtk2 hal iconv ipv6 isdnlog jpeg libg++ midi mp3 ncurses 
nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin nvidia ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdf perl png 
portaudio ppds pppd python readline reflection session spl ssl tcpd tetex 
theora truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vorbis wma xine xorg xvid zlib" 
ALSA_CARDS="emu10k1" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop 
empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi 
null plug rate route share shm softvol" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev 
keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 
lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia vesa"
Unset:  CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, 
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS


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[gentoo-user] Beagle eating up Resources!! (BEagled-index-helper)

[Ow Mun Heng]

Does anyone here knows if beagle really sucks up resources?? I just
emerged it a week ago and I'm getting very pissed off at it as it's
using a lot of resources. The laptop doesn't get much idle time.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem installing GRUB

[Marco Schuler]

Hi,

On 2/26/07, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Monday 26 February 2007, Marco Schuler wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> after using other distributions for years I finally decided to go
> with gentto to have to most flexibility. So here I am :-)
>
> I got trough the gentoo installation up to the point of installing
> grub. After the command 'grub-install /dev/hda' my machine hangs
> displaying the following meassage:
>Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time


You are installing grub to an IDE device. Is that how you normally
address that device? It might be a SATA drive


The device that I am installing grub to is a IDE device. So the
addressing should be ok. It is also mounted as /dev/hdaXY.


What is the contents of your device.map file? I've seen that cause grub
to search endlessly for a device that isn't there


As yesterday, I don't have my notebook at hand. I will check tonight.
What should be the content of device.map? Is it generated by grub?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet not working after instillition

[Dale]

Harbir Singh Hundal wrote:
> Thanx for the reply.
>
> I think there is some problem with my resolv.com
>
> the contents of my  resolv.conf file are:
>
> domain homemetwork
>
> Please let me know what should be comming here.
> I think I need to put the gateway address here.
>
>
>
> */Ryan Curtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
>
>
> It would seem to me that your DHCP server is not set correctly.
> Can you
> post your /etc/resolv.conf? That would help. Also, try pinging
> 216.239.51.99. This is the IP of www.google.com.
>
> Ryan Curtin
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Actually the DNS info goes in that file.  You may can just copy that
over from another machine but you should set it up so that it gets them
from the machine that connects to the internet.  You may want to read
/etc/conf.d/net.example to see if one of the examples in there applies
to you.  If one does, copy only the parts you need to /etc/conf.d/net. 

Also, don't forget to try to ping as requested in the previous email. 
That will let the list know if the rest of the network is working
correctly.  It may not work and that may be why it is not getting the
DNS automatically, as it should.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet not working after instillition

[Harbir Singh Hundal]

Now when I did ifconfig, its not showing me eth0

Ryan Curtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:00:21PM 
-0800, Harbir Singh Hundal wrote:
>   Hi!
>   
> I have build the system, with kernel-2.6, and during the instillation
> I have emerged dhcpcd, but my internet is not working.
> 
> When I do # ifconfig I can see the assigned IP 192.168.0.2 for eth0,
> and I am using a router as a gateway with address 192.168.0.1
> 
> I am able to ping 192.168.0.1, but when I try to ping www.google.com
> or any other site it gives the message "unknown Host".
> 
> I don’t know what to do now, any sort of help will be appreciated.

It would seem to me that your DHCP server is not set correctly.  Can you
post your /etc/resolv.conf?  That would help.  Also, try pinging
216.239.51.99.  This is the IP of www.google.com.

Ryan Curtin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding core dumps

[Christoph Nodes]

On 2/27/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Monday 26 February 2007, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re:
[gentoo-user] Avoiding core dumps':
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 18:39:27 -0500
> David Relson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:12:49 +0100
> > Christoph Nodes wrote:
> > > I am using sys-libs/pam-0.78-r5.
> >
> > As best I know, it's the ulimit setting that's relevant and pam is not
> > involved.
>
> AFAIK, pam is only for Authentication.

There are a lot of tangential issues (like limits) that were traditionally
controlled by the authentication "stack" on unix.  PAM allows you to
replace all of this, so there are indeed PAM modules that control limits.


Thank you all for your answers.

I added 'ulimit -c 0' to /etc/profile but I am not completely happy
with this. Why do I have to change anything? I always thought not
alowing core dumps would be the default behaviour.

I guess KDE's crash handler could also responsible for changing the
core dump limit. I'll have a look.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Internet not working after instillition

[Harbir Singh Hundal]

Thanx for the reply.

I think there is some problem with my resolv.com

the contents of my  resolv.conf file are:

domain homemetwork

Please let me know what should be comming here.
I think I need to put the gateway address here.



Ryan Curtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:00:21PM 
-0800, Harbir Singh Hundal wrote:
>   Hi!
>   
> I have build the system, with kernel-2.6, and during the instillation
> I have emerged dhcpcd, but my internet is not working.
> 
> When I do # ifconfig I can see the assigned IP 192.168.0.2 for eth0,
> and I am using a router as a gateway with address 192.168.0.1
> 
> I am able to ping 192.168.0.1, but when I try to ping www.google.com
> or any other site it gives the message "unknown Host".
> 
> I don’t know what to do now, any sort of help will be appreciated.

It would seem to me that your DHCP server is not set correctly.  Can you
post your /etc/resolv.conf?  That would help.  Also, try pinging
216.239.51.99.  This is the IP of www.google.com.

Ryan Curtin
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