[gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
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Dale wrote:
> Stroller wrote:
>> On 2 Feb 2009, at 03:46, Dale wrote:
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I think I tried this &/or genkernel & when I looked at /boot I found
they'd littered the place with clutter.
I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added
made me want to barf.
I have avoided any such "complications" since, considering I don't
consider copying a file & editing grub.conf to be anything of a
complication myself.
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>>> I think I read somewhere that system.map file is no longer needed,
>>> unless you want to set up things in a "odd" way. Is that correct?
>> I've certainly never needed it, in several years since 2.4 kernels.
>> But IIRC it is/was copied over when using these "automated kernel
>> installation methods".
>>
>> Stroller.
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> I think that is how mine got there to. I may rename mine and reboot and
> see what blows up.
>
> Dale
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> :-) :-)
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If I remember correctly, it is only used by depmod, and only if you pass
the file name on the command line. update-modules, which calls depmod,
and tends to be the main way that depmod is called (besides in the
kernel Makefile), searches the following directories for the System.map
file:
/lib/modules/${KV}/build
/usr/src/linux-${KV}
/lib/modules/${KV}
/boot
/usr/src/linux
In each directory, it looks for the file in this order:
System.map-genkernel-${arch}-${KV}
System.map-genkernel-*-${KV}
System.map-${KV}
System.map
What this effectively means is that the copy in /boot is a backup copy,
just in case you clean the current build of your kernel
(/lib/modules/${KV}/build is a symlink to the build directory of your
kernel build, which can differ from the source directory)
tl;dr version: It won't blow up immediately, but you might run into
problems later if you `make clean` or `make mrproper` in the build tree
- - or build a different kernel in the same tree.
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[gentoo-user] Re: localmount before fsck: e2fsck complaining
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 reQuiem23 wrote: > hi all, > > i just noticed some warnings in my bootup process. the order of the services > in question is checkfs - localmount - fsck. however, checkfs does the > pending file system checks already before the partitions are mounted, so why > is there another service "fsck" which seems to do just the same? especially > because my /home partition is already mounted by localmount when fsck > starts, which is sort of a problem. > > Greetings, > Niklas > It seems that you have a mixture of baselayout1 and baselayout2/openrc scripts installed simultaneously, which can cause all kinds of problems - - the service "checkfs" does not exist in baselayout2/openrc, and so can be deleted (the reason it was not deleted is *probably* because it had been edited at some point, and was therefore under CONFIG_PROTECT). You may also be having other problems due to this, but that's the most obvious that I can see from your description. - -- ABCD -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmGm9IACgkQOypDUo0oQOqG5gCgwHEBX0rrOIOg0xow/cY/9aTw OVoAn1dmuy5NMq7EcN6Z2UEHh9wCUfsM =V+2S -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" ?
On 2 Feb 2009, at 04:32, Grant wrote:
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the
"netbook" laptops. /etc/make.conf says:
CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu"
Is that correct?
This thread has gotten confusing. If you mean the Acer Aspire One
netbook (of which the A110 is a sub-model) then it uses an Intel Atom
N270 processor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspire_One
It appears to be i686 & Gentoo wiki alleges the safe CFLAGS thusly:
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Safe_Cflags/Intel#Atom_N270
(This took me 2 minutes on Google).
Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2009 05:53:34 schrieb Grant Edwards: > Why would one need an initramfs? That question has already been answered in this thread. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CHOST='i486-pc-linux-gnu' ?
El Lun, 2 de Febrero de 2009, 7:12, Grant escribió: >> But that's the lesser of your problems. If you really meant >> to install a 64 bits Gentoo, and your make.conf has that CHOST line, that >> means that you chose the wrong stage3 file, and maybe also the wrong >> livecd. You need a 64 bits livecd and a 64 bits stage3. >> > > It's a 32-bit CPU. I'm just confused as to why it doesn't qualify as > a 686 instead of 486. It does qualify as 686. Anything from pentium pro and above (if my memory serves correctly) does qualify as i686. Of course, previous arches up to i386 will work as well, since the new ones are all supersets of the original i386 instructions set. So, you could use either. But i686 will be more optimal. However, make sure you check the guide if you plan to change the CHOST. It's not just as straight as changing it on your make.conf http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/change-chost.xml -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Ext4 for a new installation?
Am Montag, 2. Februar 2009 06:14:17 schrieb Stroller: > Hence I'd be worrying about > incompatibilities when chrooting in, if I used a non-Gentoo one. When you're chrooted, you _are_ in a Gentoo system. It doesn't matter what system you used to unpack that stage tarball before. I use GRML for doing Gentoo installs. It always worked perfectly fine. As of 2008.11, it even has that nice grml-chroot script which handles all the /proc and /dev bind-mounting stuff for you. However, it doesn't have ext4 support, yet. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CHOST='i486-pc-linux-gnu' ?
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the "netbook" laptops. /etc/make.conf says: CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" Is that correct? >>> >>> If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, >>> that's correct. >> >> OK, does i686 indicate 64-bit? > > Nope. i686 is still x86. > > But that's the lesser of your problems. If you really meant > to install a 64 bits Gentoo, and your make.conf has that CHOST > line, that means that you chose the wrong stage3 file, and > maybe also the wrong livecd. You need a 64 bits livecd and a > 64 bits stage3. It's a 32-bit CPU. I'm just confused as to why it doesn't qualify as a 686 instead of 486. - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" ?
Grant wrote: I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the "netbook" laptops. /etc/make.conf says: CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" Is that correct? If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, that's correct. OK, does i686 indicate 64-bit? No. 64-bit is "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu". I don't know why you have i486 instead of i686, but I do know that i486 is correct too. If it has any drawbacks compared to i686, no idea.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CHOST='i486-pc-linux-gnu' ?
El Lun, 2 de Febrero de 2009, 6:54, Grant escribió: >>> I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the >>> "netbook" laptops. /etc/make.conf says: >>> >>> >>> CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" >>> >>> >>> Is that correct? >>> >> >> If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, >> that's correct. > > OK, does i686 indicate 64-bit? Nope. i686 is still x86. But that's the lesser of your problems. If you really meant to install a 64 bits Gentoo, and your make.conf has that CHOST line, that means that you chose the wrong stage3 file, and maybe also the wrong livecd. You need a 64 bits livecd and a 64 bits stage3. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" ?
>> I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the >> "netbook" laptops. /etc/make.conf says: >> >> CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" >> >> Is that correct? > > If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, that's > correct. OK, does i686 indicate 64-bit? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ext4 for a new installation?
On 2 Feb 2009, at 04:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Stroller wrote: For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new system I'm about to install. Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this? Yep, SystemRescueCD supports it: http://www.sysresccd.org It's even Gentoo-based, what a deal! ;) Thanks! That sounds great! I know it's possible to install Gentoo using other LiveCDs, but have always used a Gentoo one in the past, just because it's been available. Hence I'd be worrying about incompatibilities when chrooting in, if I used a non-Gentoo one. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo messed up after upgrade
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Montag 02 Februar 2009, Miernik wrote: > >> After running 'emerge -uD world' I have many things messed-up, besides >> the unability of firefox to do DNS resolve for most (but not all) URLs. >> ssh also can't DNS resolve some hosts (but ping can on the same hosts). >> >> All my manpages look like this: >> >> ESC[1mNAMEESC[0m >>ls - list directory contents >> >> ESC[1mSYNOPSISESC[0m >>ESC[1mls ESC[22m[ESC[4mOPTIONESC[24m]... [ESC[4mFILEESC[24m]... >> >> Many programs fail to start: >> >> mier...@przehyba ~ $ gnumeric >> gnumeric: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libspreadsheet-1.8.4.so: undefined >> symbol: g_dgettext >> >> mier...@przehyba ~ $ oowriter >> /usr/lib64/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: >> /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version >> LIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by >> /usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/libbasegfxlx.so) >> >> mier...@przehyba ~ $ eix glibc >> eix: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version >> LIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by eix) >> >> Before I had ~amd64 in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, but in the middle of this >> upgrade I thought it was a bad idea, because many programs failed to >> compile, so I removed that from make.conf, and did run >> 'emerge --empty-tree world' >> which downgraded everything back to stable. But one thing I couldn't >> downgrade was glibc which stayed at version >> sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1 >> >> XTerm is not using my ~/.Xresources settings. >> >> Is there any way I can possibly fix my system? >> > > yes, revdep-rebuilt. > > > Typo there I think. Try revdep-rebuild -i and see if that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo messed up after upgrade
On Montag 02 Februar 2009, Miernik wrote: > After running 'emerge -uD world' I have many things messed-up, besides > the unability of firefox to do DNS resolve for most (but not all) URLs. > ssh also can't DNS resolve some hosts (but ping can on the same hosts). > > All my manpages look like this: > > ESC[1mNAMEESC[0m >ls - list directory contents > > ESC[1mSYNOPSISESC[0m >ESC[1mls ESC[22m[ESC[4mOPTIONESC[24m]... [ESC[4mFILEESC[24m]... > > Many programs fail to start: > > mier...@przehyba ~ $ gnumeric > gnumeric: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libspreadsheet-1.8.4.so: undefined > symbol: g_dgettext > > mier...@przehyba ~ $ oowriter > /usr/lib64/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: > /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version > LIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by > /usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/libbasegfxlx.so) > > mier...@przehyba ~ $ eix glibc > eix: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version > LIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by eix) > > Before I had ~amd64 in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, but in the middle of this > upgrade I thought it was a bad idea, because many programs failed to > compile, so I removed that from make.conf, and did run > 'emerge --empty-tree world' > which downgraded everything back to stable. But one thing I couldn't > downgrade was glibc which stayed at version > sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1 > > XTerm is not using my ~/.Xresources settings. > > Is there any way I can possibly fix my system? yes, revdep-rebuilt.
[gentoo-user] Gentoo messed up after upgrade
After running 'emerge -uD world' I have many things messed-up, besides the unability of firefox to do DNS resolve for most (but not all) URLs. ssh also can't DNS resolve some hosts (but ping can on the same hosts). All my manpages look like this: ESC[1mNAMEESC[0m ls - list directory contents ESC[1mSYNOPSISESC[0m ESC[1mls ESC[22m[ESC[4mOPTIONESC[24m]... [ESC[4mFILEESC[24m]... Many programs fail to start: mier...@przehyba ~ $ gnumeric gnumeric: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libspreadsheet-1.8.4.so: undefined symbol: g_dgettext mier...@przehyba ~ $ oowriter /usr/lib64/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version LIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /usr/lib64/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/libbasegfxlx.so) mier...@przehyba ~ $ eix glibc eix: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version LIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by eix) Before I had ~amd64 in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, but in the middle of this upgrade I thought it was a bad idea, because many programs failed to compile, so I removed that from make.conf, and did run 'emerge --empty-tree world' which downgraded everything back to stable. But one thing I couldn't downgrade was glibc which stayed at version sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1 XTerm is not using my ~/.Xresources settings. Is there any way I can possibly fix my system? -- Miernik
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
Stroller wrote: > > On 2 Feb 2009, at 03:46, Dale wrote: >>> ... >>> I think I tried this &/or genkernel & when I looked at /boot I found >>> they'd littered the place with clutter. >>> >>> I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added >>> made me want to barf. >>> >>> I have avoided any such "complications" since, considering I don't >>> consider copying a file & editing grub.conf to be anything of a >>> complication myself. >>> ... >> >> I think I read somewhere that system.map file is no longer needed, >> unless you want to set up things in a "odd" way. Is that correct? > > I've certainly never needed it, in several years since 2.4 kernels. > But IIRC it is/was copied over when using these "automated kernel > installation methods". > > Stroller. > I think that is how mine got there to. I may rename mine and reboot and see what blows up. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Ext4 for a new installation?
Stroller wrote: > For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new system > I'm about to install. > > Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this? > > I _think_ it should be just a case of untarring the stage 3, chrooting > in, updating everything to latest & reboot. As long as I use 2.6.28 > when I install I don't think there should be anything that is > incompatible with ext4?? > > Or would I be better off using ext3 and converting it to ext4 in a > month or two? Are there any downsides to converting a fs from ext3 to > ext4 in this way? > > Cheers, > > Stroller. > > > See if Knoppix supports it yet. If it does, you are good to go. Anything that is bootable, has chroot and its friends available should work. It doesn't have to be Gentoo specific. You could do like I do. I copy everything over to another drive, then do whatever to my main drive then copy it back. I have done that several times and it works pretty well. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Ext4 for a new installation?
Stroller wrote: For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new system I'm about to install. Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this? Yep, SystemRescueCD supports it: http://www.sysresccd.org It's even Gentoo-based, what a deal! ;) I _think_ it should be just a case of untarring the stage 3, chrooting in, updating everything to latest & reboot. As long as I use 2.6.28 when I install I don't think there should be anything that is incompatible with ext4?? Just do whatever you would do with ext3. Nothing fancy required. Of course fstab needs ext4, not ext3. Or would I be better off using ext3 and converting it to ext4 in a month or two? Are there any downsides to converting a fs from ext3 to ext4 in this way? The downsides are that you'll end up with missing ext4 features that will only apply to newly created files after the conversion. I recommend to just be clean about it and use ext4 from the start.
[gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On 2009-02-01, Geralt wrote: > Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? Not me. I do use the debian install utilities. > Ib'm using it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much > easier :-) Why would one need an initramfs? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Dale wrote: > >>> Can you recommend a non-biased news source online? >>> >>> - Grant >>> >>> >>> >>> >> http://www.foxnews.com/ Fair and Balanced. >> > > *rofl* > > Joke of the day ;-o > > > cu > Nope, not a joke at all. Thinking CNN is fair and balanced would be tho. Saying that about NBC would make me laugh so hard I would turn blue and die. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" ?
Grant wrote: I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the "netbook" laptops. /etc/make.conf says: CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" Is that correct? If it's an Intel-compatible (x86) and Gentoo is 32-bit, then yes, that's correct.
[gentoo-user] Re: Ext4 for a new installation?
On 2 Feb 2009, at 04:33, Stroller wrote: ... As long as I use 2.6.28 when I install I don't think there should be anything that is incompatible with ext4?? I should have added: I plan to use ext3 for my boot partition. Cheers, Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Ext4 for a new installation?
For more funroll-loopiness I contemplate using ext4 for the new system I'm about to install. Anyone know of any LiveCDs that would support this? I _think_ it should be just a case of untarring the stage 3, chrooting in, updating everything to latest & reboot. As long as I use 2.6.28 when I install I don't think there should be anything that is incompatible with ext4?? Or would I be better off using ext3 and converting it to ext4 in a month or two? Are there any downsides to converting a fs from ext3 to ext4 in this way? Cheers, Stroller.
[gentoo-user] CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" ?
I'm installing Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. It's one of the "netbook" laptops. /etc/make.conf says: CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu" Is that correct? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
On 2 Feb 2009, at 03:46, Dale wrote: ... I think I tried this &/or genkernel & when I looked at /boot I found they'd littered the place with clutter. I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added made me want to barf. I have avoided any such "complications" since, considering I don't consider copying a file & editing grub.conf to be anything of a complication myself. ... I think I read somewhere that system.map file is no longer needed, unless you want to set up things in a "odd" way. Is that correct? I've certainly never needed it, in several years since 2.4 kernels. But IIRC it is/was copied over when using these "automated kernel installation methods". Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox
* Dale wrote: > > > > Can you recommend a non-biased news source online? > > > > - Grant > > > > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/ Fair and Balanced. *rofl* Joke of the day ;-o cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ -
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
Stroller wrote: > > On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:08:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and >>> then copy the kernel by hand using >>> >>> cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8 >>> >>> or whatever the kernel is. I add that to grub.conf and I'm done. works >>> for me. >> >> Four commands plus some editing, which could contain an error making the >> kernel unbootable. The alternative s one command >> >> make all modules_install install >> >> Which also, as a nice bonus, backs up your kernel config too. > > Does this not also add the system.map file & a couple of others to > /boot ? > > I think I tried this &/or genkernel & when I looked at /boot I found > they'd littered the place with clutter. > > I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added > made me want to barf. > > I have avoided any such "complications" since, considering I don't > consider copying a file & editing grub.conf to be anything of a > complication myself. > > To guard against unbootable kernels I have a bzImage.old which is set > as fallback. To guard against human error when editing grub.conf the > bzImage.old is the first (0th?) entry in the list, and finally - lest > things go really pyriform - I have a KVM-IP. > > > On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:17, Tom wrote: >>> Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and >>> then copy the kernel by hand >> >> Good god. So I'm not alone in being a dumbass :) > > What they said. > > Stroller. > > > I think I read somewhere that system.map file is no longer needed, unless you want to set up things in a "odd" way. Is that correct? Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:23:56 + Stroller wrote: > On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:17, Tom wrote: > >> Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and > >> then copy the kernel by hand > > > > Good god. So I'm not alone in being a dumbass :) > > What they said. I'm another one. I guess if I were building a lot of kernels, I'd look into these other methods of moving files around and dealing with grub.conf, but I only do it once every few months. -- »Q« Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:08:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and then copy the kernel by hand using cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8 or whatever the kernel is. I add that to grub.conf and I'm done. works for me. Four commands plus some editing, which could contain an error making the kernel unbootable. The alternative s one command make all modules_install install Which also, as a nice bonus, backs up your kernel config too. Does this not also add the system.map file & a couple of others to / boot ? I think I tried this &/or genkernel & when I looked at /boot I found they'd littered the place with clutter. I hope you won't be offended, but the amount of junk files this added made me want to barf. I have avoided any such "complications" since, considering I don't consider copying a file & editing grub.conf to be anything of a complication myself. To guard against unbootable kernels I have a bzImage.old which is set as fallback. To guard against human error when editing grub.conf the bzImage.old is the first (0th?) entry in the list, and finally - lest things go really pyriform - I have a KVM-IP. On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:17, Tom wrote: Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and then copy the kernel by hand Good god. So I'm not alone in being a dumbass :) What they said. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sonic-Visualiser compile error
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Now the build succeeds. Nevertheless, starting sonic-visualisers complains: sonic-visualiser: error while loading shared libraries: libvamp-hostsdk.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I cannot find libvamp-hostsdk. Neither emergeing libvamp-hostsdk succeeds (no such package/ebuild) nor qsearching libvamp-hostsdk or libvamp or hostsdk produces anything which I can use to detect the correct package to emerge... What you are looking for is media-libs/vamp-plugin-sdk-2.0, but I wonder why it cannot find it since it's supposedly a dependency in the sonic-visualiser ebuild. What version of vamp-plugin-sdk do you have installed? (emerge -pvC vamp-plugin-sdk) What use flags are you using for sonic-visualiser? (emerge -pv sonic-visualiser) Is your system otherwise sane and up-to-date? (E.g., have emerge @preserved-libs && revdep-rebuild -i been run successfully after upgrading the libraries?) Just as an example from a system without sonic-visualiser: when I try emerging sonic-visualiser on an amd64 system without many of the libraries it needs, I have to allow at least following packages that are marked unstable on amd64 (i.e., ~amd64): dev-libs/rasqal-0.9.16 (or 0.9.15) dev-libs/redland-1.0.8 (an earlier one might suffice, but I went with the latest available in portage) media-libs/liboggz-0.9.8 media-libs/vamp-plugin-sdk-2.0 media-libs/libfishsound-0.9.1 And also naturally the sonic-visualiser-1.4 itself, which is also unstable. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
>Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and >then copy the kernel by hand Good god. So I'm not alone in being a dumbass :) And I was getting really worried that I had made a fool of myself by posting earlier and admitting my 'stupidity' ;) Coming from debian, with all that fancy 'make-kpkg'-stuff and not finding any particular extensive instructions among the gentoo docs regarding the nature of kernel building and version handling, I just went the 'by hand route', assuming it was the 'gentoo way'. Seeing I'm not alone, maybe the documentation should be changed to make this (non)-issue a tad clearer. Or maybe it actually is, and I just missed something... Tom
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:08:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and > then copy the kernel by hand using > > cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8 > > or whatever the kernel is. I add that to grub.conf and I'm done. works > for me. Four commands plus some editing, which could contain an error making the kernel unbootable. The alternative s one command make all modules_install install Which also, as a nice bonus, backs up your kernel config too. -- Neil Bothwick Member, National Association For Tagline Assimilators (NAFTA) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH wrote: >>> >>> Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > > > >> Hi, >> >> I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage >> has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When >> did this happen? Is x86 the same as i386? >> >> >> > yes. They merged the '386' and the amd64/x86_64 architecture into x86. > > And it happend a couple of kernel versions ago. > > > I am running amd64 using 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 and in arch there still is x86 an x86_64. Am I doing anything wrong or did I just missanderstand you? kh >>> cd in there and look around. x86_64 only has a boot directory and when >>> you look at the bzImage file in it you find it's a link to >>> ../../x86/boot/bzImage so what's happening is all the files are under >>> x86 but if you say 'I built AMD64' and do cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage >>> you are really getting the file under x86. >>> >>> Hope this helps, >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Well, when I tried to copy the old way, it just copied the link itself, >> then when I looked in /boot, it was red and really upset. I had to copy >> the kernel with Konqeror to get it into /boot, after finding the stupid >> thing. Don't get mad at me, every time I copied it it was a broken >> link. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. :/ >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> >> > > Dale, >There isn't a reason in the world why I'd get mad at you! :- > >I guess I'm not sure I know what you mean by 'when I tried to copy > it the old way'. I think my kernel management is far less > sophisticated than what I'm reading the real Linux guys here do. I'm > embarrased to say that the only thing in my /boot directory is a bunch > of bzImage files and a grub subdirectory. I have nothing else. > Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and > then copy the kernel by hand using > > cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8 > > or whatever the kernel is. I add that to grub.conf and I'm done. works for me. > > Possibly you've done more or less the same thing but using i386 > instead of x86_64 or x86? I think the i386/boot/bzImage file has > actually been a link to the x86 directory for awhile now. I looked in > an older 2.6.23 kernel on this machine and found an i386 directory but > didn't in the 2.6.24 kernel so I guess that's when things changed. > > Hope this helps, > Mark > > > I sort of do the way you do but I change the name so I know what version of kernel it came from and what version it is from my build. Sometimes I have to build three or four before I get what I want. I also copy the config over with the same naming scheme so I know which config goes with which kernel. I always keep two kernels in there but sometimes I get a dozen or more when I am testing new ones. The problem I ran into when I copied the old way, cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot, that wasn't the kernel but was a link to the kernel in the x86 directory tree. When I copied the link then the link got broke and then it appeared red on my screen. I thought I was going nuts for a bit. I hadn't heard anything about the kernel being moved and it had been a while. I'm old and I do forget sometimes. I don't get mad about much either. It's just another day. I got enough things to worry about already. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?
>> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD >> iso? According to this: >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml >> >> "If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a > system, you need to follow the procedure described in this document >> with a 2006.0 minimal CD image because of a bug in more recent >> releases." >> >> My USB key is only 512MB so I need the minimal CD. I tried going >> ahead with 2008.0 anyway but it won't boot. I'm trying to install >> Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. >> >> - Grant > > and what makes you think that an outdated kernel will boot on it? > > try systemrescuecd. They even have simple instructions how to put it on a > small usb stick. Thank you everyone for your kind offers. I went ahead with systemrescuecd and if you choose the right kernel (vmlinuz-something?) you boot right into Gentoo! I did try the minimal 2008.0 LiveCD but it appears it is still broken. From that bug discussion, it sounds like it won't be fixed. I should also mention that I couldn't get anything to boot on my USB key until I ran fdisk on it, even though it was pre-formatted. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH wrote: >> >>> Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: >>> On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > Hi, > > I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage > has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When > did this happen? Is x86 the same as i386? > > yes. They merged the '386' and the amd64/x86_64 architecture into x86. And it happend a couple of kernel versions ago. >>> I am running amd64 using 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 and in arch there still is x86 >>> an x86_64. Am I doing anything wrong or did I just missanderstand you? >>> >>> kh >>> >> >> cd in there and look around. x86_64 only has a boot directory and when >> you look at the bzImage file in it you find it's a link to >> ../../x86/boot/bzImage so what's happening is all the files are under >> x86 but if you say 'I built AMD64' and do cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage >> you are really getting the file under x86. >> >> Hope this helps, >> Mark >> >> >> > > Well, when I tried to copy the old way, it just copied the link itself, > then when I looked in /boot, it was red and really upset. I had to copy > the kernel with Konqeror to get it into /boot, after finding the stupid > thing. Don't get mad at me, every time I copied it it was a broken > link. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. :/ > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Dale, There isn't a reason in the world why I'd get mad at you! :- I guess I'm not sure I know what you mean by 'when I tried to copy it the old way'. I think my kernel management is far less sophisticated than what I'm reading the real Linux guys here do. I'm embarrased to say that the only thing in my /boot directory is a bunch of bzImage files and a grub subdirectory. I have nothing else. Basically I build the kernel using make && make modules_install and then copy the kernel by hand using cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.6.27-gentoo-r8 or whatever the kernel is. I add that to grub.conf and I'm done. works for me. Possibly you've done more or less the same thing but using i386 instead of x86_64 or x86? I think the i386/boot/bzImage file has actually been a link to the x86 directory for awhile now. I looked in an older 2.6.23 kernel on this machine and found an i386 directory but didn't in the 2.6.24 kernel so I guess that's when things changed. Hope this helps, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:23:11 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Note that you can put slotted packages in the world file. For example > if all you have in there is "kde-base/kdelibs" and you remove it, > depclean will remove both KDE3 and well as KDE4 libs. Simply put > "kde-base/kdelibs:3.5" in the world file. depclean will not remove the > 3.5.x versions that way. Personally, I keep the 3.5 slots and an > unslotted version: > >kde-base/kdelibs >kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 > > This will provide easy updates to future 4.x versions but will not mess > with 3.5. > > I find that having a clean world file makes package management in > Gentoo a lot easier :) This is much easier if you have portage 2.2 as you can put all the kde 3.5 stuff in a set instead of cluttering up world. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #09: Mouse not found. Press mouse button to continue. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] STAR options have me confused
Mick wrote: > Hi All, > > I do not seem to be able to run star with the correct options despite some > experimenting ... and was hoping you could correct my errors. Try the command lines from the example section in the man page ;-) > The fs is shown to be 1.1G large: > > # df -h > FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on > ... > /dev/hda5 5.8G 1.1G 4.5G 20% /media/hda5 > > > I want to save the backup on a USB drive on /media/sda1. Therefore I ran > star > as root like this: > > # cd /dev/sda1 > # star -xattr -H=exustar -c -f hda5_root1.star /media/hda5 -C /media/sda1 This is a useless command line as -C /media/sda1 is executed after archiving /media/hda5. > After a lot of messages like these: > > star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr > for '/media/hda5/usr/sbin/dumpfilter'. > star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr > for '/media/hda5/usr/sbin/ethtool'. > star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr > for '/media/hda5/usr/sbin/traceroute6'. > star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr for '/media/hda5/usr/tmp'. > star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr > for '/media/hda5/usr/share/firstboot/modules/rootpassword.py'. > There seems to be a problem with xattr support on your system. Unfortunately, Linux allows you not to install a sufficiently complete OS basesystem. Make sure that not only star supports xattrs. > ... it eventually completes. What puzzles me is the size of the star > archive, > which compared to a vanilla tar archive is massive: > > # ls -la /media/sda1 > total 17294256 > drwxr-xr-x 2 knoppix knoppix4096 Feb 1 13:01 . > drwxr-xr-x 14 rootroot 0 Feb 1 11:45 .. > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 932474880 Dec 6 13:50 hda5_root.star > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 867123200 Dec 6 13:26 hda5_root.tar > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot14486097920 Feb 1 13:13 hda5_root1.star > -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 940288000 Feb 1 10:42 hda5_root1.tar > ... > > > Is this difference in size between the hda5_root1.tar and hda5_root1.star > expected? I also show above the previous back up I did as a comparison > (although I cannot recall exactly what options I chose to run star with). As I don't know what's in both files, I cannot comment. If you create a tar archive with POSIX.1-2001 extensions, you get at least 1kB of additional meta-data per archived file. GNU tar does not support Linux specific extensions... Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: >> >>> On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When did this happen? Is x86 the same as i386? >>> yes. They merged the '386' and the amd64/x86_64 architecture into x86. >>> >>> And it happend a couple of kernel versions ago. >>> >>> >> I am running amd64 using 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 and in arch there still is x86 >> an x86_64. Am I doing anything wrong or did I just missanderstand you? >> >> kh >> > > cd in there and look around. x86_64 only has a boot directory and when > you look at the bzImage file in it you find it's a link to > ../../x86/boot/bzImage so what's happening is all the files are under > x86 but if you say 'I built AMD64' and do cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage > you are really getting the file under x86. > > Hope this helps, > Mark > > > Well, when I tried to copy the old way, it just copied the link itself, then when I looked in /boot, it was red and really upset. I had to copy the kernel with Konqeror to get it into /boot, after finding the stupid thing. Don't get mad at me, every time I copied it it was a broken link. Sometimes you got to do what you got to do. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
>> I am running amd64 using 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 and in arch there still is x86 >> an x86_64. Am I doing anything wrong or did I just missanderstand you? >> >> kh >> > > cd in there and look around. x86_64 only has a boot directory and when > you look at the bzImage file in it you find it's a link to > ../../x86/boot/bzImage so what's happening is all the files are under > x86 but if you say 'I built AMD64' and do cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage > you are really getting the file under x86. > > Hope this helps, > Mark Thanks for that info! kh
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:32 PM, KH wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: >> On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage >>> has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When >>> did this happen? Is x86 the same as i386? >>> >> >> yes. They merged the '386' and the amd64/x86_64 architecture into x86. >> >> And it happend a couple of kernel versions ago. >> > I am running amd64 using 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 and in arch there still is x86 > an x86_64. Am I doing anything wrong or did I just missanderstand you? > > kh cd in there and look around. x86_64 only has a boot directory and when you look at the bzImage file in it you find it's a link to ../../x86/boot/bzImage so what's happening is all the files are under x86 but if you say 'I built AMD64' and do cp arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage you are really getting the file under x86. Hope this helps, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] When did bzImage move?
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Dale wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I just rebuilt a newer kernel and noticed something. It seems bzImage >> has moved from arch/i386/boot/bzImage to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. When >> did this happen? Is x86 the same as i386? >> > > yes. They merged the '386' and the amd64/x86_64 architecture into x86. > > And it happend a couple of kernel versions ago. > I am running amd64 using 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 and in arch there still is x86 an x86_64. Am I doing anything wrong or did I just missanderstand you? kh
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2 and 3.5
Daniel D Jones wrote:
I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting
the following:
<=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4 ("<=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4" is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0)
Is there an issue with 3.5 and 4.2 being installed together? Is the above
block a known issue that's being worked out as 4.2 is integrated into the
stable tree? (I was unable to find a bug filed on it or any other hits on
Google.)
I recommend that you edit your world file by hand
(/var/lib/portage/world) and remove everything from in there that you
wish to unmerge. Then run "emerge -p --depclean" and take a good look
at the output. Put in the world file every package listed that should
NOT be removed. When everything looks fine, do the final "emerge -a
--depclean".
Take care though after that not clutter your world file again. That
mainly means that if you emerge some dependency of a package manually
(for whatever reason) do so with the -1 or --oneshot option of emerge.
Note that you can put slotted packages in the world file. For example
if all you have in there is "kde-base/kdelibs" and you remove it,
depclean will remove both KDE3 and well as KDE4 libs. Simply put
"kde-base/kdelibs:3.5" in the world file. depclean will not remove the
3.5.x versions that way. Personally, I keep the 3.5 slots and an
unslotted version:
kde-base/kdelibs
kde-base/kdelibs:3.5
This will provide easy updates to future 4.x versions but will not mess
with 3.5.
I find that having a clean world file makes package management in Gentoo
a lot easier :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?
Grant wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD > iso? According to this: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml > > "If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a system, you need to follow the procedure described in this document > with a 2006.0 minimal CD image because of a bug in more recent > releases." > > My USB key is only 512MB so I need the minimal CD. I tried going > ahead with 2008.0 anyway but it won't boot. I'm trying to install > Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. > > - Grant > > > Save a copy of this. If you can't find one anywhere else, I may have one laying around that I could mail to you. I'm on dial-up so I did mean to say "mail", as in snail mail. That is also if you are in the USA as well. I'm pretty sure I have a 1.4 somewhere, a 2007 and a 2008. I'd have to look to make sure tho. I'm not sure about a 2006 but can't never tell. I'm a pack rat. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?
as i see the bug has been declared fixed so must be safe to use the latest livecd
RE: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?
I have an old 2006.0 cd. I can make an ISO image if you have a place for me to upload it to. From: Grant [mailto:emailgr...@gmail.com] Sent: Sun 2/1/2009 4:09 PM To: Gentoo mailing list Subject: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD? Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD iso? According to this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml "If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a <>
Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Grant wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD > iso? According to this: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml > > "If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a system, you need to follow the procedure described in this document > with a 2006.0 minimal CD image because of a bug in more recent > releases." > > My USB key is only 512MB so I need the minimal CD. I tried going > ahead with 2008.0 anyway but it won't boot. I'm trying to install > Gentoo on an Acer Aspire 110. > > - Grant and what makes you think that an outdated kernel will boot on it? try systemrescuecd. They even have simple instructions how to put it on a small usb stick.
[gentoo-user] Where can I download 2006.0 minimal LiveCD?
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the 2006.0 minimal LiveCD iso? According to this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml "If you want to use the minimal CD on a smaller key or boot a
[gentoo-user] Re: kde-4.2 - how to upgrade
Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, since kde-4.2 seems be to unblocked now, I'd like to try it. But there are 408 (!) blocked packages. emerge --unmerge kde-meta didn't do anything. You need an "emerge -a --depclean" after unmerging all -meta packages. But usually this won't work either since most people have normal KDE packages in their world file too. The way I did it was to use the qlist tool from the gentoo-utils package. First I got a list of KDE packages: qlist -Iv | grep -- kde This will return a lot of packages. I then copy&pasted all relevant KDE 4.1 packages into an "emerge -C" command. Then at the end I did the "emerge -a --depclean" and removed any left overs.
[gentoo-user] Re: No RTC kernel support needed?
Grant wrote: One of my systems needed Real Time Clock -> PC-style 'CMOS' enabled in the kernel to prevent a Hardware Clock error at startup and to make the 'hwclock' command work. Another of my systems doesn't have Real Time Clock kernel support enabled at all, and yet 'hwclock' works fine. Does anyone know how that works? It might have something to do with the "High Resolution Timer Support" option (in "Processor type and features".) Not sure though. Thank you but none of my systems seem to have that enabled. One thing I would try is examining the output of dmesg. Maybe something relevant shows up.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't recognize removable media
Marc Arens-3 wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:10:30 -0800 (PST) > reQuiem23 wrote: > >> >> >> >> Florian Philipp-4 wrote: >> > >> > reQuiem23 schrieb: >> >> Hello all, >> >> >> >> I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with >> >> removable media. >> >> It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD >> >> or USB stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the >> >> output of tail /var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a >> >> desktop icon or even auto-mounts the volume. Are there any log >> >> files (maybe from udev and nautilus) or settings i could check to >> >> investigate the problem? or is there >> >> anything special about 2.24 that i could have overread? >> >> >> > >> > Most likely either hald is not running or some gnome packages were >> > emerged without the hal useflag. >> > >> > >> > >> >> the hal USE-flag is enabled and all packages are compiled with it. >> hald is also running. is there any information (logs, for example) >> which would help to investigate the problem? > > just a stupid idea ... > does "gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible" show true? > if not try setting it to true > > > > yep, it's set to true. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Gnome-doesn%27t-recognize-removable-media-tp21776169p21779763.html Sent from the gentoo-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't recognize removable media
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:10:30 -0800 (PST) reQuiem23 wrote: > > > > Florian Philipp-4 wrote: > > > > reQuiem23 schrieb: > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with > >> removable media. > >> It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD > >> or USB stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the > >> output of tail /var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a > >> desktop icon or even auto-mounts the volume. Are there any log > >> files (maybe from udev and nautilus) or settings i could check to > >> investigate the problem? or is there > >> anything special about 2.24 that i could have overread? > >> > > > > Most likely either hald is not running or some gnome packages were > > emerged without the hal useflag. > > > > > > > > the hal USE-flag is enabled and all packages are compiled with it. > hald is also running. is there any information (logs, for example) > which would help to investigate the problem? just a stupid idea ... does "gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible" show true? if not try setting it to true
[gentoo-user] STAR options have me confused
Hi All, I do not seem to be able to run star with the correct options despite some experimenting ... and was hoping you could correct my errors. I seem to have done this successfully in the past, but I am getting inappropriate results this time round. This is the fs I am trying to back up: # ls -la /media/hda5 total 208 drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 Feb 1 12:56 . drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 0 Feb 1 11:45 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 25 04:02 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 18 19:37 boot drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 18 19:37 data drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 19 00:37 dev drwxr-xr-x 82 root root 12288 Feb 1 08:43 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 18 19:37 home drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 initrd drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Jan 31 04:02 lib drwx-- 2 root root 16384 Nov 18 19:35 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Feb 1 07:55 media drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Dec 23 10:46 misc drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 mnt drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 opt drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 18 19:37 proc drwxr-x--- 6 root root 4096 Jan 3 05:55 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Nov 23 04:02 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 19 00:37 selinux drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 21 2005 srv drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 18 19:37 sys drwxrwxrwt 6 root root 4096 Feb 1 08:43 tmp drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Nov 19 00:38 usr drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 19 00:43 var The fs is shown to be 1.1G large: # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/hda5 5.8G 1.1G 4.5G 20% /media/hda5 I want to save the backup on a USB drive on /media/sda1. Therefore I ran star as root like this: # cd /dev/sda1 # star -xattr -H=exustar -c -f hda5_root1.star /media/hda5 -C /media/sda1 After a lot of messages like these: star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr for '/media/hda5/usr/sbin/dumpfilter'. star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr for '/media/hda5/usr/sbin/ethtool'. star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr for '/media/hda5/usr/sbin/traceroute6'. star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr for '/media/hda5/usr/tmp'. star: No such file or directory. Cannot listxattr for '/media/hda5/usr/share/firstboot/modules/rootpassword.py'. ... it eventually completes. What puzzles me is the size of the star archive, which compared to a vanilla tar archive is massive: # ls -la /media/sda1 total 17294256 drwxr-xr-x 2 knoppix knoppix4096 Feb 1 13:01 . drwxr-xr-x 14 rootroot 0 Feb 1 11:45 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 932474880 Dec 6 13:50 hda5_root.star -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 867123200 Dec 6 13:26 hda5_root.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot14486097920 Feb 1 13:13 hda5_root1.star -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot 940288000 Feb 1 10:42 hda5_root1.tar ... Is this difference in size between the hda5_root1.tar and hda5_root1.star expected? I also show above the previous back up I did as a comparison (although I cannot recall exactly what options I chose to run star with). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:31:27 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > I'm a little confused here... what exactly is in .version? Say if I > wanted to identify the kernel as belonging to a specific machine. > HOST is vm23. Now if I wanted to have an incrementing version string > that included that host name what would I need in .version and how > does the incrementing work? > > Do you mean 1 is added to string each time you call make? Can you > show an example of this? > > Does .version need to reside in same level as .config? Will a > `make clean' or `make mrproper'... destroy it? cd /usr/src/linux echo "$(hostname)-" >localversion1 ln -s .version localversion2 will give each kernel a name with the hostname and version added. .version is automatically incremented each time you run make. Make mrproper will most likely remove it, but I've not used that since 2.4. -- Neil Bothwick Work is the curse of the partying class! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Wicd: ImportError: No module named gtk
puyhon-updater solved my problem. Cheers, Arnau
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:41:35 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> emerge -C kde > >> emerge --depclean -a > >> emerge -av kde-meta > >> > > > > That's what I was afraid of. Sigh. Thanks. > > > > > > > > Could he just emerge -C kde then re-emerge whatever he wanted without > having to reinstall all of KDE? Isn't packages like Konqueror just a > dependency pulled in by the original emerge kde? No,because he's installed from the monolithic builds. He might just get away with emerge -C kde kdebase emerge -1av kdebase-meta Then repeat for each of the other meta packages, finally emerging kde-meta which will keep world correct. -- Neil Bothwick Random access is the optimum of the mass storages. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
Daniel D Jones wrote: > On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:49:03 Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:07:37 +, Daniel D Jones wrote: >> >>> 3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE >>> package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10? >>> (Without, that is, manually unblocking lots and lots of packages.) Can >>> I simply install the meta package over the base package or will that >>> create blocks or other issues? >>> >> The monolithic and split ebuilds are incompatible, so you'll have to >> uninstall one before you can install the other. >> >> emerge -C kde >> emerge --depclean -a >> emerge -av kde-meta >> > > That's what I was afraid of. Sigh. Thanks. > > > Could he just emerge -C kde then re-emerge whatever he wanted without having to reinstall all of KDE? Isn't packages like Konqueror just a dependency pulled in by the original emerge kde? Maybe I am missing something but I would hate to have to recompile all of KDE just for that upgrade. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Feb 1, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-) who needs an initramfs? My laptop won't boot without initramfs. Took me a weekend installing gentoo to figure that one out. And yeah, I actually to use genkernel. It allows me to configure how I want it, and just stop worrying from that point forward.
[gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
Neil Bothwick writes:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:38:48 -0500, ABCD wrote:
>
>> To be precise, the config option CONFIG_LOCALVERSION appends a string to
>> the end of the kernel version, which installkernel uses to place the
>> kernel image.
>
> You can get the same effect by creating a file called localversion
> containing the string to add, which saves altering the kernel config. If
> you make this a symlink to .version, you even get it incremented
> automatically.
>
>> If /boot/vmlinuz exists, then it is moved to /boot/vmlinuz.old, and a
>> *symlink* from /boot/vmlinuz is created to "vmlinuz-${VERSION}". If
>> /boot/vmlinuz did *not* exist before installation, then no symlink is
>> created.
>
> Instead, vmlinuz-${VERSION} is copied to vmlinuz.
I'm a little confused here... what exactly is in .version? Say if I
wanted to identify the kernel as belonging to a specific machine.
HOST is vm23. Now if I wanted to have an incrementing version string
that included that host name what would I need in .version and how
does the incrementing work?
Do you mean 1 is added to string each time you call make? Can you
show an example of this?
Does .version need to reside in same level as .config? Will a
`make clean' or `make mrproper'... destroy it?
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:49:03 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:07:37 +, Daniel D Jones wrote: > > 3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE > > package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10? > > (Without, that is, manually unblocking lots and lots of packages.) Can > > I simply install the meta package over the base package or will that > > create blocks or other issues? > > The monolithic and split ebuilds are incompatible, so you'll have to > uninstall one before you can install the other. > > emerge -C kde > emerge --depclean -a > emerge -av kde-meta That's what I was afraid of. Sigh. Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't recognize removable media
reQuiem23 wrote: > > Florian Philipp-4 wrote: > >> reQuiem23 schrieb: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable >>> media. >>> It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB >>> stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the output of tail >>> /var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a desktop icon or even >>> auto-mounts the volume. Are there any log files (maybe from udev and >>> nautilus) or settings i could check to investigate the problem? or is >>> there >>> anything special about 2.24 that i could have overread? >>> >>> >> Most likely either hald is not running or some gnome packages were >> emerged without the hal useflag. >> >> >> >> > > the hal USE-flag is enabled and all packages are compiled with it. hald is > also running. is there any information (logs, for example) which would help > to investigate the problem? > I use KDE and mine doesn't do this either. It does for my camera but not a memory stick or that sort of thing. I am curious as to how that worked before tho cause I would like it to work for me too. If it can work with Gnome it should be some way for KDE to work too. Vice versa as well. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Daniel D Jones wrote: > Uh, someone's confused here. It may very well be me but I'm not following you > at all. The other post concerned startkde blocking kdelibs. Yes. I'm sorry. You're using monolithic KDE. I don't remember if startkde was part of kdebase. Maybe that's where your problem is. > My block is kdebase 3.5 blocking kdelibs 4.2. There's no mention of startkde > bocking anything on my system. So I don't follow why you're telling me that > I need startkde 3.5.10. My bad. I'm sorry. Neil says you'll need to remove kde and emerge kde-meta. Follow his advice. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:17:59 Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Daniel D Jones wrote: > > On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:40:29 Norberto Bensa wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm > >> > getting the following: > >> > >> You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least) > >> > >> Look in the archives, a similar question was posted a few days ago. > > > > Thanks for your response. I did search the archives and did not find > > anything relevant. I saw and read a thread where a block was occurring: > > > > <=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10" is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0 > > > > It wasn't clear to me that this was the same problem, since that block > > referenced a 3.5.10 package and mine referenced a 3.5.9 package. > > since the block is: > > <=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10" is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0 > > and 3.5.9 <= 3.5.10, then yes, the mail applies to you > > You'll need kdebase-startkde > 3.5.10 (3.5.10-r5 is available in portage) Uh, someone's confused here. It may very well be me but I'm not following you at all. The other post concerned startkde blocking kdelibs. My block is kdebase 3.5 blocking kdelibs 4.2. There's no mention of startkde bocking anything on my system. So I don't follow why you're telling me that I need startkde 3.5.10.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:07:37 +, Daniel D Jones wrote: > 3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE > package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10? > (Without, that is, manually unblocking lots and lots of packages.) Can > I simply install the meta package over the base package or will that > create blocks or other issues? The monolithic and split ebuilds are incompatible, so you'll have to uninstall one before you can install the other. emerge -C kde emerge --depclean -a emerge -av kde-meta -- Neil Bothwick [ Printed on recycled electrons ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
El Dom, 1 de Febrero de 2009, 18:27, Tom escribió: > Does this then create a bzImage-versionstring file, and make install > copies this to /boot/kernel-versionstring (and system.map and .config > respectably)? Yes. > Also how exactly do you then need to build the kernel. > Does a simple 'make' suffice? Yes. make && make install modules_install is all you need. Then either edit grub.conf or if you don't like tinkering with it just set it to boot vmlinuz and forget about it. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:34:10 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > I can set the version, either in the kernel config with > > CONFIG_LOCALVERSION > > or by using a file > > localversion > > containing a version string? > > I am using the first way, don't know the second. It works just the same, but keeps it put of the config file (and lets you use the contents of .version without needing git). The CONFIG_LOCALVERSION help describes it. -- Neil Bothwick "Criminal Lawyer" is a redundancy. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Tom wrote: > >who needs an initramfs? > > Not me ;) > > But seeing this discussion, I've finally realised that I'm a dumbass. > For ages now I've been manually copying the kernel, the system.map and > the config around my filesystem. I've always wondered how on earth > people manage who do a lot of kernel testing without exploding due to > frustration. Now I know... :) > > But out of curiosity, and to recap: > > I can set the version, either in the kernel config with > CONFIG_LOCALVERSION > or by using a file > localversion > containing a version string? I am using the first way, don't know the second. > > Does this then create a bzImage-versionstring file, and make install > copies this to /boot/kernel-versionstring (and system.map and .config > respectably)? vmlinuz-versionstring. > > Also how exactly do you then need to build the kernel. > Does a simple 'make' suffice? I use: make all modules_install install.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sonic-Visualiser compile error
Arttu V. [09-02-01 17:49]: > Mr Cramer, you replied in private email, but your blacklist bounced/dropped > my > consequent reply. Replying on-list: > > On Saturday 31 January 2009 18:07:02 you wrote: > > But emerge tolds me: > > > > emerge -pv rasqual > > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > > > emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "rasqual". > > There is a typo: just drop the extra 'u'. It's just rasqal, like you used it > correctly here below: > > > while qsearch says: > > > > qsearch rasqal > > dev-libs/rasqal library that handles Resource Description Framework (RDF) > > > > Before I screw up my system: > > Is there something more fundamental damaged? > > This is the spot where I think FEATURES="buildpkg" should be > mentioned. It will help you roll back the old binaries should > something bad happen. It is mentioned on the list regularly by many > posters, most of them more experienced with it than I am. :) > > Still, I don't think upgrading rasqal should cause major havoc. Worst > thing that happened to this box was that openoffice and soprano wanted > to be re-emerged. So just some automated extra compiling, no big deal > for me. YMMV > > > Or does rasqal only exists as unstable ebuild (reading your posting > > I would tend to answer this with "NO" ... > > 0.9.10 has been stable on Gentoo for nearly three years according to > /usr/portage/dev-libs/rasqal/ChangeLog > > The newer versions have had some bugs reported, but they have been > fixed. You can look them up in bugs.gentoo.org if you're worried. > > -- > Arttu V. > Hi Arttu ! Thank you very much for fixing my typos...! :O) I have to clean my glasses again, I think ... ;) Now the build succeeds. Nevertheless, starting sonic-visualisers complains: sonic-visualiser: error while loading shared libraries: libvamp-hostsdk.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I cannot find libvamp-hostsdk. Neither emergeing libvamp-hostsdk succeeds (no such package/ebuild) nor qsearching libvamp-hostsdk or libvamp or hostsdk produces anything which I can use to detect the correct package to emerge... Kind regards Meino Cramer -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: > >> Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using > >> it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-) > > > > who needs an initramfs? > > Me of course! I have root on lvm, so I need one. I have root on raid5 - and so I don't need lvm. Yay!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
>who needs an initramfs? Not me ;) But seeing this discussion, I've finally realised that I'm a dumbass. For ages now I've been manually copying the kernel, the system.map and the config around my filesystem. I've always wondered how on earth people manage who do a lot of kernel testing without exploding due to frustration. Now I know... :) But out of curiosity, and to recap: I can set the version, either in the kernel config with CONFIG_LOCALVERSION or by using a file localversion containing a version string? Does this then create a bzImage-versionstring file, and make install copies this to /boot/kernel-versionstring (and system.map and .config respectably)? Also how exactly do you then need to build the kernel. Does a simple 'make' suffice? Tom
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Daniel D Jones wrote: > On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:40:29 Norberto Bensa wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones > wrote: >> > I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm >> > getting the following: >> >> You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least) >> >> Look in the archives, a similar question was posted a few days ago. > > Thanks for your response. I did search the archives and did not find anything > relevant. I saw and read a thread where a block was occurring: > > <=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10" is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0 > > It wasn't clear to me that this was the same problem, since that block > referenced a 3.5.10 package and mine referenced a 3.5.9 package. since the block is: <=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10" is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0 and 3.5.9 <= 3.5.10, then yes, the mail applies to you You'll need kdebase-startkde > 3.5.10 (3.5.10-r5 is available in portage) > However, upgrading to 3.5.10 raises another issue. For 3.5, I didn't install > the meta package, I installed the KDE base package: Uhm... Do you mean monolitich (base) vs. modules (meta)? > 3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE > package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10? (Without, > that is, manually unblocking lots and lots of packages.) Can I simply > install the meta package over the base package or will that create blocks or > other issues? I don't know. Perhaps another user can answer that question. I moved to modules as soon as it was made available. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: >> Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using >> it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-) > > who needs an initramfs? > > Me of course ;-) I have root on lvm and I'm using uvesafb (+splash)
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't recognize removable media
Florian Philipp-4 wrote: > > reQuiem23 schrieb: >> Hello all, >> >> I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable >> media. >> It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB >> stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the output of tail >> /var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a desktop icon or even >> auto-mounts the volume. Are there any log files (maybe from udev and >> nautilus) or settings i could check to investigate the problem? or is >> there >> anything special about 2.24 that i could have overread? >> > > Most likely either hald is not running or some gnome packages were > emerged without the hal useflag. > > > the hal USE-flag is enabled and all packages are compiled with it. hald is also running. is there any information (logs, for example) which would help to investigate the problem? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Gnome-doesn%27t-recognize-removable-media-tp21776169p21777644.html Sent from the gentoo-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:40:29 Norberto Bensa wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones
wrote:
> > I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm
> > getting the following:
>
> You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least)
>
> Look in the archives, a similar question was posted a few days ago.
Thanks for your response. I did search the archives and did not find anything
relevant. I saw and read a thread where a block was occurring:
<=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10" is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0
It wasn't clear to me that this was the same problem, since that block
referenced a 3.5.10 package and mine referenced a 3.5.9 package.
However, upgrading to 3.5.10 raises another issue. For 3.5, I didn't install
the meta package, I installed the KDE base package:
ROOT / # eix -e kde
[I] kde-base/kde
Available versions: (3.5) 3.5.9
{accessibility}
Installed versions: 3.5.9(3.5)(02:18:39 05/27/08)(-accessibility)
Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
Description: KDE - merge this to pull in all non-developer
kde-base/* packages
ROOT / # eix kde-meta
* kde-base/kde-meta
Available versions:
(3.5) 3.5.9 ~3.5.10
(4.1) (~)4.1.4
(4.2) (~)4.2.0
{accessibility nls}
Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
Description: KDE - merge this to pull in all non-developer, split
kde-base/* packages
3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE
package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10? (Without,
that is, manually unblocking lots and lots of packages.) Can I simply
install the meta package over the base package or will that create blocks or
other issues?
Re: [gentoo-user] weekend fun
2009/2/1 Philip Webb : > http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/dn16497-international-wildbird-competition/2 > That is a proof that Gentoo is beautiful enough to win prizes with it :). -- Currently developing a browsergame... http://www.p-game.de Trade - Expand - Fight Follow me at twitter! http://twitter.com/moortier
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
Am Sonntag, 1. Februar 2009 17:26:23 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > who needs an initramfs? Those with an encrypted root fs? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: >> Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using >> it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-) > > who needs an initramfs? > Me of course! I have root on lvm, so I need one. To Geralt, yes. I use genkernel.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sonic-Visualiser compile error
Mr Cramer, you replied in private email, but your blacklist bounced/dropped my consequent reply. Replying on-list: On Saturday 31 January 2009 18:07:02 you wrote: > But emerge tolds me: > > emerge -pv rasqual > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "rasqual". There is a typo: just drop the extra 'u'. It's just rasqal, like you used it correctly here below: > while qsearch says: > > qsearch rasqal > dev-libs/rasqal library that handles Resource Description Framework (RDF) > > Before I screw up my system: > Is there something more fundamental damaged? This is the spot where I think FEATURES="buildpkg" should be mentioned. It will help you roll back the old binaries should something bad happen. It is mentioned on the list regularly by many posters, most of them more experienced with it than I am. :) Still, I don't think upgrading rasqal should cause major havoc. Worst thing that happened to this box was that openoffice and soprano wanted to be re-emerged. So just some automated extra compiling, no big deal for me. YMMV > Or does rasqal only exists as unstable ebuild (reading your posting > I would tend to answer this with "NO" ... 0.9.10 has been stable on Gentoo for nearly three years according to /usr/portage/dev-libs/rasqal/ChangeLog The newer versions have had some bugs reported, but they have been fixed. You can look them up in bugs.gentoo.org if you're worried. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: > Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using > it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-) who needs an initramfs?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't recognize removable media
reQuiem23 schrieb: Hello all, I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable media. It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the output of tail /var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a desktop icon or even auto-mounts the volume. Are there any log files (maybe from udev and nautilus) or settings i could check to investigate the problem? or is there anything special about 2.24 that i could have overread? Most likely either hald is not running or some gnome packages were emerged without the hal useflag.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No RTC kernel support needed?
>> One of my systems needed Real Time Clock -> PC-style 'CMOS' enabled in >> the kernel to prevent a Hardware Clock error at startup and to make >> the 'hwclock' command work. Another of my systems doesn't have Real >> Time Clock kernel support enabled at all, and yet 'hwclock' works >> fine. Does anyone know how that works? > > It might have something to do with the "High Resolution Timer Support" > option (in "Processor type and features".) Not sure though. Thank you but none of my systems seem to have that enabled. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:38:03 +, Daniel D Jones wrote: > As a second question, can anyone point me to an informative reference > on ~arch? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=3 -- Neil Bothwick Law of Mechanical Repair: After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4.2 - how to upgrade
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:38:22 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote: > since kde-4.2 seems be to unblocked now, I'd like to try it. > But there are 408 (!) blocked packages. > > emerge --unmerge kde-meta > didn't do anything. > > So, what's a feasible way to upgrade? Use automunmask, as already mentioned at least once this week. -- Neil Bothwick When companies ship Styrofoam, what do they pack it in? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:38:48 -0500, ABCD wrote:
> To be precise, the config option CONFIG_LOCALVERSION appends a string to
> the end of the kernel version, which installkernel uses to place the
> kernel image.
You can get the same effect by creating a file called localversion
containing the string to add, which saves altering the kernel config. If
you make this a symlink to .version, you even get it incremented
automatically.
> If /boot/vmlinuz exists, then it is moved to /boot/vmlinuz.old, and a
> *symlink* from /boot/vmlinuz is created to "vmlinuz-${VERSION}". If
> /boot/vmlinuz did *not* exist before installation, then no symlink is
> created.
Instead, vmlinuz-${VERSION} is copied to vmlinuz.
--
Neil Bothwick
There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking
like an idiot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones wrote: > I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting > the following: > You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least) Look in the archives, a similar question was posted a few days ago.
[gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting
the following:
<=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4 ("<=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4" is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0)
Is there an issue with 3.5 and 4.2 being installed together? Is the above
block a known issue that's being worked out as 4.2 is integrated into the
stable tree? (I was unable to find a bug filed on it or any other hits on
Google.)
As a second question, can anyone point me to an informative reference on
~arch? It's impossible to search for the term on Google - the tilde gets
ignored and the number of false positives are overwhelming. Although I've
been using Gentoo for awhile, I don't really understand the difference
between something being in ~arch and something being blocked. I'd like to
make myself a little smarter.
[gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't recognize removable media
Hello all, I emerged Gnome 2.24 and am now experiencing problems with removable media. It was not an upgrade, but a new install. Whenever i insert a CD or USB stick, the system recognizes it (as you can see in the output of tail /var/log/messages), but nautilus doesn't show a desktop icon or even auto-mounts the volume. Are there any log files (maybe from udev and nautilus) or settings i could check to investigate the problem? or is there anything special about 2.24 that i could have overread? /var/log/messages: Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.467469] ehci_hcd :00:0b.1: resume root hub Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.527010] hub 1-0:1.0: hub_resume Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.527022] ehci_hcd :00:0b.1: GetStatus port 2 status 001803 POWER sig=j CSC CONNECT Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.527026] hub 1-0:1.0: port 2: status 0501 change 0001 Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.628020] hub 1-0:1.0: state 7 ports 8 chg 0004 evt Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.628031] hub 1-0:1.0: port 2, status 0501, change , 480 Mb/s Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.679256] ehci_hcd :00:0b.1: port 2 high speed Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.679260] ehci_hcd :00:0b.1: GetStatus port 2 status 001005 POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.730013] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7 Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.781254] ehci_hcd :00:0b.1: port 2 high speed Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.781258] ehci_hcd :00:0b.1: GetStatus port 2 status 001005 POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.845398] usb 1-2: default language 0x0409 Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.846960] usb 1-2: uevent Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.846978] usb 1-2: usb_probe_device Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.846981] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847203] usb 1-2: adding 1-2:1.0 (config #1, interface 0) Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847225] usb 1-2:1.0: uevent Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847244] usb-storage 1-2:1.0: usb_probe_interface Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847249] usb-storage 1-2:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847322] scsi9 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847409] usb-storage: device found at 7 Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847412] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847505] drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '007' Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847555] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1307, idProduct=0165 Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847557] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847560] usb 1-2: Product: USB Mass Storage Device Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847563] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: USBest Technology Feb 1 16:02:49 niklaspc [ 2024.847565] usb 1-2: SerialNumber: E9 Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.849398] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access UDISKPDU01_4G 8AI2.0 0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.850262] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] 7897088 512-byte hardware sectors: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB) Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.851573] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.851576] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00 Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.851579] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.854134] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] 7897088 512-byte hardware sectors: (4.04 GB/3.76 GiB) Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.855504] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.855507] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00 Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.855510] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.855514] sdc: sdc1 Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.959771] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.959845] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 Feb 1 16:02:54 niklaspc [ 2029.960368] usb-storage: device scan complete Greetings, Niklas -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Gnome-doesn%27t-recognize-removable-media-tp21776169p21776169.html Sent from the gentoo-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple ISPs into a Gentoo box
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Grant wrote: > Has anyone put > something like that together? Yes. > Can I make use of the combined > bandwidth and not just the redundancy? Hm. If I understand you correctly, then no. You can't. But you can -for example- use one link or the other based on source ip address. At work, we have one ISP for everyone, and one ISP for "emergency" (iso downloads, etc) So, if source IP is 192.168.10.11 (mine) I route the traffic via the "emergency" link and voila: I have 5Mbps for myself :) Or you can route based on destination IP, or let the router decide which link to use. > I found some Ubuntu docs here: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-521386.html > Maybe you'll find this link interesting: http://lartc.org Regards, Norberto
[gentoo-user] localmount before fsck: e2fsck complaining
hi all, i just noticed some warnings in my bootup process. the order of the services in question is checkfs - localmount - fsck. however, checkfs does the pending file system checks already before the partitions are mounted, so why is there another service "fsck" which seems to do just the same? especially because my /home partition is already mounted by localmount when fsck starts, which is sort of a problem. Greetings, Niklas -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/localmount-before-fsck%3A-e2fsck-complaining-tp21774767p21774767.html Sent from the gentoo-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
[gentoo-user] kde-4.2 - how to upgrade
Hi, since kde-4.2 seems be to unblocked now, I'd like to try it. But there are 408 (!) blocked packages. emerge --unmerge kde-meta didn't do anything. So, what's a feasible way to upgrade? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.2 and KDE-3.5
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:09:12 -0700 (MST), Dmitry Makovey wrote: > Now my question is: how safe is it to do a workaround, and create local > version of kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0-r1 ebuild (say, -r2) which removes > the block and just stick with 3.5.9 on 3.5 side ? I really don't feel > like unmasking 3.5.10 builds and building them too. The devs put that block on for a reason. You are free to remove it safe in the knowledge that you can claim sole responsibility for all the broken pieces. This seems a lot more risky than running a well-tested ~arch package. > another confusing thing is: > !<=kde-base/kdebase-3.5.9-r4 > !<=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10 > which I read as "you're fine using kde-3.5.9 as long as you don't use > startkde". kind of weird. Not at all. All versions of startkde older than 3.5.10-r1 cause a problem with KDE4. Using a more recent version or no version at all. Some people may have their own custom KDE startup scripts. -- Neil Bothwick Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
