Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sunday 03 January 2016 19:10:36 Dale wrote: > Yea, I got tired of trying to figure out what was called what. The word > thingy hit me and I use it for the init thingys, thingies, and a few > other things now. Just don't get me started on hal again. That thingy > still pisses me off. I need a blood pressure pill now. I wish I could > forget that thing. :/ Next time you're in the Peak District, look me up and I'll find you a suitable anaesthetic. :) -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Mon, 04 Jan 2016 00:08:21 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I cannot work out the correct plural of initramfs! > > That's easy - it's initramfses. Well, it would be if there were any > such word as initramfs. :) Of course there is such a word, you just used it ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world. pgpwUFWWtqEaR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:24:35 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I might add, this is why when I read a email, I try to put the most >> positive light on it. Sometimes even a native English speaker just >> doesn't quite get the right thing to come out. Add in spelling errors >> and such or someone speaking English as a second or even third language >> and you can really get a mess. Let's not get into those translation >> thingys either. LOL >> >> I'll be glad when spell checkers add "thingy" to the list. ;-) > You can add "thingy" to your personal dictionary, although the spell > checker will still correctly point out that "thingys" is incorrect, the > plural is "thingies". This is where your use of that word to signify an > initrd or initramfs is superior, I cannot work out the correct plural > of initramfs! > > Yea, I added it once and for some reason, likely a upgrade, it sort of got deleted. After a couple times, I just let the red wiggly line annoy the crap out of me. lol Yea, I got tired of trying to figure out what was called what. The word thingy hit me and I use it for the init thingys, thingies, and a few other things now. Just don't get me started on hal again. That thingy still pisses me off. I need a blood pressure pill now. I wish I could forget that thing. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sunday 03 January 2016 23:50:29 Neil Bothwick wrote: > I cannot work out the correct plural of initramfs! That's easy - it's initramfses. Well, it would be if there were any such word as initramfs. :) -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 15:24:35 -0600, Dale wrote: > I might add, this is why when I read a email, I try to put the most > positive light on it. Sometimes even a native English speaker just > doesn't quite get the right thing to come out. Add in spelling errors > and such or someone speaking English as a second or even third language > and you can really get a mess. Let's not get into those translation > thingys either. LOL > > I'll be glad when spell checkers add "thingy" to the list. ;-) You can add "thingy" to your personal dictionary, although the spell checker will still correctly point out that "thingys" is incorrect, the plural is "thingies". This is where your use of that word to signify an initrd or initramfs is superior, I cannot work out the correct plural of initramfs! -- Neil Bothwick "Fascinating," said Spock, watching Kirk's lousy acting. pgpu8P24ocvDt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] modest list of miserable FAIL
Okay, this is the list after the SECOND emptytree world. I then sync'd again and removed any packages scheduled for update from this list and ran it again. Most of these are long-standing fails, the one that worries me the most is klibc, that might byte me on reboot. That is a Gcc 5.3 incompatibility! tortoise portage # tree -L 2 . ├── app-cdr │ └── cdrdao-1.2.3-r2 ├── app-office │ └── texmacs-1.99.2-r1 ├── app-text │ └── recode-3.6_p20-r1 ├── dev-dotnet │ ├── gnome-sharp-2.24.2-r1 │ ├── gtk-sharp-2.12.21 │ ├── nuget-2.8.3 │ └── xdt-for-monodevelop-2.8.1 ├── dev-java │ └── java-sdk-docs-1.8.0.66 ├── dev-libs │ ├── klibc-2.0.4 │ ├── libcdio-0.93 │ └── libcdio-paranoia-0.93_p1 ├── dev-util │ └── monodevelop-5.9.5.9 ├── kde-base │ └── pykde4-4.14.3 ├── media-gfx │ ├── gphotofs-0.5 │ └── povray-3.7.0.0 ├── media-libs │ ├── opencv-3.0.0 │ └── x264-0.0.20151011 ├── media-sound │ ├── audacity-2.0.5-r1 │ └── playmidi-2.5-r2 ├── media-video │ └── vcdimager-0.7.24 ├── sys-fs │ └── squashfs-tools-4.3 └── www-servers └── xsp-2014.12-r2014120900 36 directories, 0 files tortoise portage # -- IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel. Powers are not rights.
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 02 January 2016 15:06:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> "half as big again" means "50% larger than". > That is, take the original measure, add one-half of it again and you have > 1.5 x the original. > >> i.e. calculate 50% and add it, making the total 150%. >> It's an English idiom, so don;t try to figure it out from each word, >> just recognize the whole phrase. English is full of that shit. > That's too rude. Rather, I'd say it's rich with all manner of idioms, all of > which are expressive and help to make the point clear. Tough on people new > to the language, but that's life. Numerous invasions and occupations by > foreign peoples have contributed to what we see today. > > In contrast, Americans are set on destroying all this richness, I suppose in > the interest of "simplicity", which introduces either ambiguity or ugliness > instead. They've already practically scrapped four whole verb tenses, and > now adverbs are going the same way. > > Pigs and whistles, indeed. > As a American and a person who only speaks English, I'm sometimes stumped too. Sometimes I have to read something twice or struggle to find that word I am needing to use. I suspect I am not alone in this. I might add, this is why when I read a email, I try to put the most positive light on it. Sometimes even a native English speaker just doesn't quite get the right thing to come out. Add in spelling errors and such or someone speaking English as a second or even third language and you can really get a mess. Let's not get into those translation thingys either. LOL I'll be glad when spell checkers add "thingy" to the list. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sunday 03 January 2016 14:49:10 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:44:37 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I meant the size of the file. > > > > And now I want to add that using 1.5 x the space to represent far less > > information is a clear indicator of inefficiency. > > Efficiency is not everything, readability is often more important. Yes, of course I know that, and the readability I've developed with KMail-2 in KDE-4 suits me nicely. I don't see any of the busyness that QT-5 advocates decry, but I do see swathes of wasted space in the same program in KDE-5. And I do mean *wasted* - it achieves nothing at all on a desktop screen and would be better used for something. Maybe the nice people at kde.org will let us have a better theme for desktops in due course. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of cups and physical printing ...
Neil Bothwick [16-01-02 11:53]: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 06:50:22 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > I am not using a physical printer. > > > > Is it possible to get completly rid of cups and > > other "physical printing"-related stuff somehow? > > You stipulate physical printing. Does that mean you want to retain th > ability to print to PDF or PS? If so, you would still need at least > Ghostscript and possibly CUPS too, although you should be able to get rid > of the PPD packages. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > Eye of newt, toe of frog, regular Coke and fries to go, please. Hi Neil, ...my "I am no native english speaker" hit me again it seems... ;) With "physical printing" I meant the step which "put it on paper"...or in other words: Everything which involves the device "printer" (...hrrmmm...NOT anything in /dev/the thing on the desktop, which has 9 needles in the past...;) 8) ) For creating PDF I use either TeX and friends. Or gimp or similiar (Image-/Graphicsmagick). Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty fixing GLSA 201512-07 (gstreamer-0.10)
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 07:52:30 -0800, Grant wrote: > >> GLSA 201512-07 requires that I remove gstreamer-0.10 but I'm finding >> it rather inextricable due to dependencies. Has anyone else run into >> this problem? > > I think this is another case of glsa-check not handling slots correctly. > I believe it handles ranges fine, but it seems that we occasionally have GLSAs that don't correctly specify ranges. You can log a bug against it. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty fixing GLSA 201512-07 (gstreamer-0.10)
On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 07:52:30 -0800, Grant wrote: > GLSA 201512-07 requires that I remove gstreamer-0.10 but I'm finding > it rather inextricable due to dependencies. Has anyone else run into > this problem? I think this is another case of glsa-check not handling slots correctly. -- Neil Bothwick I'd tell you a UDP joke, but you may not get it. pgpvQ0MqYUN8a.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Difficulty fixing GLSA 201512-07 (gstreamer-0.10)
Op zondag 3 januari 2016 07:52:30 schreef Grant: > GLSA 201512-07 requires that I remove gstreamer-0.10 but I'm finding > it rather inextricable due to dependencies. Has anyone else run into > this problem? > > - Grant > Yes, same here. I arrived to the same conclusion, and decided to just leave it in place for now. So, no solution, unfortunately. Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Midnight Commander and hiding terminal output
On 01/02/2016 12:38 AM, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > Den 01. jan. 2016 00:49, skrev Linux: >> On 12/30/2015 10:32 AM, Roman Dobosz wrote: >> >> snip > Should be as easy as hitting Ctrl-L when your screen is messed up, > should it not? Don't use MC, so haven't tried it. If it does not work, > look in manual for key-binding for "redraw" . > I didn't know about ctrl-L. Sure enough that works as well. Thank you. Good work around until I fix it otherwise. Skippy
[gentoo-user] Difficulty fixing GLSA 201512-07 (gstreamer-0.10)
GLSA 201512-07 requires that I remove gstreamer-0.10 but I'm finding it rather inextricable due to dependencies. Has anyone else run into this problem? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:08:32 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Welcome to Pedants Anonymous :) Come on Peter, pedants are anything but anonymous. We^H^HThey like to nit-pick from the rooftops :) -- Neil Bothwick Veni, vermini, vomui I came, I got ratted, I threw up pgpPk8KFTpIWc.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sun, 03 Jan 2016 11:44:37 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I meant the size of the file. > > And now I want to add that using 1.5 x the space to represent far less > information is a clear indicator of inefficiency. Efficiency is not everything, readability is often more important. Otherwise newspapers and magazines would all be printed in 6pt type with minimal margins and no spacing between paragraphs. -- Neil Bothwick Politically Incorrect -- and damn proud of it! pgp0sat7xExIi.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Saturday 02 January 2016 15:06:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > "half as big again" means "50% larger than". That is, take the original measure, add one-half of it again and you have 1.5 x the original. > i.e. calculate 50% and add it, making the total 150%. > It's an English idiom, so don;t try to figure it out from each word, > just recognize the whole phrase. English is full of that shit. That's too rude. Rather, I'd say it's rich with all manner of idioms, all of which are expressive and help to make the point clear. Tough on people new to the language, but that's life. Numerous invasions and occupations by foreign peoples have contributed to what we see today. In contrast, Americans are set on destroying all this richness, I suppose in the interest of "simplicity", which introduces either ambiguity or ugliness instead. They've already practically scrapped four whole verb tenses, and now adverbs are going the same way. Pigs and whistles, indeed. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting large audio files into tracks
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 23:09:27 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Hi all, > > I have quite a few large audio rip files that need to be split up into > their respective tracks. They were wrongly ripped back when and the > original CDs aren't available anymore. > > I very seldom work with audio files directly, so I'm mostly clueless > in this area and it's easier to ask folks who do this often what > packages out there are good at it. > > Bonus points for packages that use musicbrainz or similar You do not mention whether you by chance have CUE or TOC files that contains time points at which the big files should be split. If yes then Flacon (media-sound/flacon) can be used to split the file according a CUE file. It has also CDDB support (even though I don't remember using it and in fact it shows an error popup when I've tried it now) or you can edit metadata manually. If you prefer command line then media-sound/shntool contains command shnsplit: $ shnsplit -f .cue For more mature metadata editing I recommend media-sound/easytag. If you do not have the CUE file then Ardour (media-sound/ardour) can be used to create it. You would have to manually mark beginning of each track and then export. (It requires Jack server so it is not a lightweight solution but I like working with it.) Also good old media-sound/gramofile should be able split files automatically, but I have no experience with it. Robert -- Róbert Čerňanský E-mail: ope...@tightmail.com Jabber: h...@jabber.sk
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sunday 03 Jan 2016 11:44:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2016 11:08:32 I wrote: > > On Saturday 02 January 2016 12:45:09 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 01:23:28PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > > you see here. And the qt5 screen shot is half as big again as the > > > > > > qt4. > > > > > > > > > > I don't quite get that. > > > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > Both images are the same size. The usable content area in the qt5 > > > screenshot is far from just half. Maybe the word “again” tips me off b/c > > > I try to interpret a meaning into every word, being a pedantic > > > non-native. ;-) > > > > I meant the size of the file. > > And now I want to add that using 1.5 x the space to represent far less > information is a clear indicator of inefficiency. Well, ... it depends on your measure of inefficiency. Your statement stands good in terms of pixel density on a page, but perhaps less so in terms of user time taken to process the information on different platforms and display resolutions. In web design at least, the centre of gravity has been shifting towards mobile platforms for a long time now. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Sunday 03 January 2016 11:08:32 I wrote: > On Saturday 02 January 2016 12:45:09 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 01:23:28PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > > you see here. And the qt5 screen shot is half as big again as the > > > > > qt4. > > > > > > > > I don't quite get that. > > > > > > ?? > > > > Both images are the same size. The usable content area in the qt5 > > screenshot is far from just half. Maybe the word “again” tips me off b/c > > I try to interpret a meaning into every word, being a pedantic > > non-native. ;-) > > I meant the size of the file. And now I want to add that using 1.5 x the space to represent far less information is a clear indicator of inefficiency. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Qt5 - should I worry?
On Saturday 02 January 2016 12:45:09 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 01:23:28PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > you see here. And the qt5 screen shot is half as big again as the > > > > qt4. > > > > > > I don't quite get that. > > > > ?? > > Both images are the same size. The usable content area in the qt5 > screenshot is far from just half. Maybe the word “again” tips me off b/c > I try to interpret a meaning into every word, being a pedantic > non-native. ;-) I meant the size of the file. Welcome to Pedants Anonymous :) -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU/distcc combination question64-
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 22:34:24 -0600, Jc García wrote: > > I serve the binpkg host from my > > desktop to my LAN with nginx but I'm considering git from the booted > > container > Correction: > * I'm considering doing it from the booted container Why not just use a shared NFS directory? -- Neil Bothwick Q: Why is top-posting evil? A: backwards read don't humans because pgpR7QK_AvfvP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Full system encryption on Gentoo
On Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:47:49 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > I use systemd's version of gummiboot with /boot on the ESP. Everything > else is on a single btrfs filesystem, on a luks-encrypted partition and > dracut takes care of everything. I don't have my laptop with me, but > I'll post the dracut options I use later. The only command line option I use with dracut is --xz. % cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/local.conf logfile=/var/log/dracut.log tmpdir=/tmp hostonly="yes" hostonly_cmdline="no" kernel_cmdline="rd.auto rd.lvm=0 rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 net.ifnames=0" omit_dracutmodules+="mdraid caps i18n" -- Neil Bothwick If Wile E. Coyote had enough money to buy all that ACME crap, why didn't he just buy dinner? pgpMai35U160W.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
