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On Montag 15 Dezember 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2008 11:04:39 Alan McKinnon wrote: LVM's support for mirroring and striping is exceptionally crude to say the least. You will also have problems if your stripes do not align with the underlying volume. Seeing as LVM is designed to make volume management easier and RAID is designed to provide redundancy, it is best to completely dispense with the mirror/stripe features of LVM and leave that to the thing that does it best - RAID - while letting LVM do what it does best - making your life infinitely easier with volume management. Plus, most built-in so-called hardware RAID solutions are utter crap and nothing worth the silicon they are built on. Linux software raid is many times better. Rule of thumb is that if the OS can see the underlying volumes that make up the RAID, you do not have real hardware RAID. You instead have something else that a marketing person decided would be cute if it were called hardware RAID. Calling a duck a swan does not make it anything other than a duck ;-) So it's fair to say you don't like MB RAID, then? ;-) I think it is fair to say that he don't like crap ;)
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Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with software RAID and later decide that a partition needs to be moved, resized, etc., then you may not be able to do it. I would suggest finding a good, if inexpensive, hardware RAID card or possibly play a bit with the RAID stuff on your motherboard to see if parted can work with it. What makes motherboard RAID such crap? I don't think I'll ever want to resize partitions. Mine are very simple root, boot, and swap and I've never wanted to change them. Is it slow, unreliable? Here is my motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130056 It is said to: SATA RAID 0/1/0+1/5 - Grant
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:59:39 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: So it's fair to say you don't like MB RAID, then? ;-) I think it's a great idea, just one that no one seems to have implemented yet ... -- Neil Bothwick Who messed with my anti-paranoia shot? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sunday 14 December 2008 11:04:39 Alan McKinnon wrote: LVM's support for mirroring and striping is exceptionally crude to say the least. You will also have problems if your stripes do not align with the underlying volume. Seeing as LVM is designed to make volume management easier and RAID is designed to provide redundancy, it is best to completely dispense with the mirror/stripe features of LVM and leave that to the thing that does it best - RAID - while letting LVM do what it does best - making your life infinitely easier with volume management. Plus, most built-in so-called hardware RAID solutions are utter crap and nothing worth the silicon they are built on. Linux software raid is many times better. Rule of thumb is that if the OS can see the underlying volumes that make up the RAID, you do not have real hardware RAID. You instead have something else that a marketing person decided would be cute if it were called hardware RAID. Calling a duck a swan does not make it anything other than a duck ;-) So it's fair to say you don't like MB RAID, then? ;-) -- Rgds Peter
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On Monday 15 December 2008 18:48:26 Grant wrote: Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with software RAID and later decide that a partition needs to be moved, resized, etc., then you may not be able to do it. I would suggest finding a good, if inexpensive, hardware RAID card or possibly play a bit with the RAID stuff on your motherboard to see if parted can work with it. What makes motherboard RAID such crap? I don't think I'll ever want to resize partitions. Mine are very simple root, boot, and swap and I've never wanted to change them. Is it slow, unreliable? Motherboard RAID tends to be one of those things where corners are cut. It is not true RAID either in low-end boards - it is two drives that are always visible anyway and you use some crappy driver (that no-one can debug) to form a *software* RAID, usually very limited in scope and usually very limited in performance. So, if you are going to end up using some vendor's crappy driver, you might as well use a proper software RAID driver that comes with the kernel, that can be debugged, that is a known quantity and that is proven to have excellent performance. In-kernel software RAID also has an impressive array of working features, and often out-performs even decent hardware RAID cards. Which isn't to say that hardware RAID is a bad thing, there are some spectacular cards out there. They do tend to be pricey though. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with software RAID and later decide that a partition needs to be moved, resized, etc., then you may not be able to do it. I would suggest finding a good, if inexpensive, hardware RAID card or possibly play a bit with the RAID stuff on your motherboard to see if parted can work with it. What makes motherboard RAID such crap? I don't think I'll ever want to resize partitions. Mine are very simple root, boot, and swap and I've never wanted to change them. Is it slow, unreliable? Here is my motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130056 It is said to: SATA RAID 0/1/0+1/5 - Grant Grant, I never suggested motherboard RAID is crap. I attempted to say that I have no experience with RAID systems. I've never used RAID at all myself. I was only relating what I was told by others on the list when I had a reason to ask about partition management on an existing RAID device for a friend's computer. - Mark
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I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with software RAID and later decide that a partition needs to be moved, resized, etc., then you may not be able to do it. I would suggest finding a good, if inexpensive, hardware RAID card or possibly play a bit with the RAID stuff on your motherboard to see if parted can work with it. What makes motherboard RAID such crap? I don't think I'll ever want to resize partitions. Mine are very simple root, boot, and swap and I've never wanted to change them. Is it slow, unreliable? Motherboard RAID tends to be one of those things where corners are cut. It is not true RAID either in low-end boards - it is two drives that are always visible anyway and you use some crappy driver (that no-one can debug) to form a *software* RAID, usually very limited in scope and usually very limited in performance. So, if you are going to end up using some vendor's crappy driver, you might as well use a proper software RAID driver that comes with the kernel, that can be debugged, that is a known quantity and that is proven to have excellent performance. In-kernel software RAID also has an impressive array of working features, and often out-performs even decent hardware RAID cards. Which isn't to say that hardware RAID is a bad thing, there are some spectacular cards out there. They do tend to be pricey though. That's a great explanation, thank you very much. - Grant
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with software RAID and later decide that a partition needs to be moved, resized, etc., then you may not be able to do it. I would suggest finding a good, if inexpensive, hardware RAID card or possibly play a bit with the RAID stuff on your motherboard to see if parted can work with it. What makes motherboard RAID such crap? I don't think I'll ever want to resize partitions. Mine are very simple root, boot, and swap and I've never wanted to change them. Is it slow, unreliable? Here is my motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130056 It is said to: SATA RAID 0/1/0+1/5 - Grant One reason to be concerned about ANY software RAID solution would be that when you boot something like a gparted CD to do some work you won't necessarily have the right driver on the CD so you won't be able to see the devices. A true hardware RAID card can (to the best of my knowledge) always be accessed by the system. It may be slower if it doesn't have special drivers to give you the best performance, but at least it will work. Just info and ideas. Cheers, Mark
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On Monday 15 December 2008 20:38:59 Mark Knecht wrote: One reason to be concerned about ANY software RAID solution would be that when you boot something like a gparted CD to do some work you won't necessarily have the right driver on the CD so you won't be able to see the devices. A true hardware RAID card can (to the best of my knowledge) always be accessed by the system. That's largely true, but only while the drives are still in the same system. We are discussing the disgusting cheap crappy motherboard RAID out there, try swapping motherboards out on one of those and see what happens. Tip: the motherboard does not believe the drives belong to it anymore. At the other end of the spectrum we have the good quality hardware RAID, like what my manager insists we use at work (exclusively Dell). 100+ machines, history going back 5 years, no failures, no screwups, no data loss due to funky RAID. Plenty of drives failed though - the data center can get pretty hot (this is Africa after all). So given the choice between crappy mb RAID and software RAID, I'm putting my money where the debugger lives - kernel-based sw RAID. If my boot CD does not support it, it's a trivial matter to fetch and burn another CD. Heck, I can go through the DC door and take my pick from whatever happens to be lying on 5TB of assorted stuff on the ftp server. With an mb RAID gone south, I have no such options and run the serious risk of losing everything after hardware failure. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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Grant schrieb: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. So you don't care about security, right? With security I mean redundancy (RAID1,5,10,...) Should I get another identical drive and set up RAID, or will that create too much noise and heat? A RAID won't cause more heat or noise than a second drive but it will also not necessarily solve your problem: RAID0 gives you the capacity of both drives combined and a lot of speed but if one of the disks dies, all data is lost. RAID1 spends the complete capacity of one of the drives for redundancy. RAID5 needs three drives (so it doesn't fit into your cost, noise and heat requirements), gives you the capacity of two and enough redundancy to loose one disk. However, its write performance isn't extremely high. Should I get rid of my current drive and get a new drive, or will that not be much faster? Your drive is good, why should you scrap it? Velociraptors are reputed to be very fast, but $200 for 300GB is pretty expensive and 1TB would require 4 drives which I think would create a lot of noise and heat. There are two brute force ways for an HDD to get faster: You increase their rpm or you increase their storage density (so that in one rotation, the r/w head can read/write more data). The latter has the advantage that it causes no additional heat or noise but more rpm give you lower access times. I'd say if you don't care about redundancy, you should go for a single 1TB disk. I'd prefer a Samsung Spinpoint F1. Spinpoints have the reputation of being a good mix between cost effectiveness, speed and noise. Then I would use it (and the older disk) in an LVM volume group. LVM also supports mirroring (like RAID1) and striping (like RAID0) on a per-volume basis. That means that you could keep most of your data somewhere on the TB disk and still experiment with mirroring and striping using both disks for partitions which need more speed or more security.
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On Sunday 14 December 2008 12:47:14 Florian Philipp wrote: Then I would use it (and the older disk) in an LVM volume group. LVM also supports mirroring (like RAID1) and striping (like RAID0) on a per-volume basis. That means that you could keep most of your data somewhere on the TB disk and still experiment with mirroring and striping using both disks for partitions which need more speed or more security. LVM's support for mirroring and striping is exceptionally crude to say the least. You will also have problems if your stripes do not align with the underlying volume. Seeing as LVM is designed to make volume management easier and RAID is designed to provide redundancy, it is best to completely dispense with the mirror/stripe features of LVM and leave that to the thing that does it best - RAID - while letting LVM do what it does best - making your life infinitely easier with volume management. Plus, most built-in so-called hardware RAID solutions are utter crap and nothing worth the silicon they are built on. Linux software raid is many times better. Rule of thumb is that if the OS can see the underlying volumes that make up the RAID, you do not have real hardware RAID. You instead have something else that a marketing person decided would be cute if it were called hardware RAID. Calling a duck a swan does not make it anything other than a duck ;-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:49 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 Out of space with 320G? Have you considered putting your multimedia in an external hard drive?
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My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. So you don't care about security, right? With security I mean redundancy (RAID1,5,10,...) I haven't considered RAID for data security because I'm backing up critical system and data files across physical locations. I figure that's better because I'm protected in case of fire or theft. It would be nice for the system to stay up in the case of a hard drive failure, but there are so many other components that could fail. Should I get another identical drive and set up RAID, or will that create too much noise and heat? A RAID won't cause more heat or noise than a second drive but it will also How much perceived noise does a second drive create? I'd say if you don't care about redundancy, you should go for a single 1TB disk. I'd prefer a Samsung Spinpoint F1. Spinpoints have the reputation of being a good mix between cost effectiveness, speed and noise. Do you think that would result in a greater speed increase than another Seagate and RAID0? - Grant
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On 14 Dec 2008, at 02:49, Grant wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. ... but $200 for 300GB is pretty expensive I don't find your criteria well-defined - fast, cheap (large) reliable, pick any two. If the factors were ONLY cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat, then I would say throw away your old hard-drive RAID 0 across cheap 1TB drives, which are c £65 each at the moment. In RAID 0, however, the 0 stands for how much data you get to keep in the event of drive failure, and most of us don't want that. I also don't see your old drive as redundant. Haven't you considered just mounting an additional drive at /media/ video, or /var or /home or wherever? I personally don't find hard-drives to be significant contributors to a system's noise. There are too many fans in any of my machines to notice the difference made by an extra disk crunching away. Additionally, in typical PC systems with capacity for only 4 (maybe 6, these days?) ATA drives, I don't find heat to be a problem. I'm sure I've read articles saying how heat is the biggest contributor to drive- failures, but I have two machines in my airing cupboard here [1], each stuffed as full of disks as possible (3 in one, 4 in the other PC) and have never had a failure on any of them. One system is at least 4 years old, probably more like 6, the other at least a couple. In a later post you say drive throughput may be an issue for you, which I did not really find clear initially. I would personally consider a pair of two of the cheapest new drives I could find (probably 80gig @ £22 each inc VAT or 160gig @ £28) and RAID 0 them. Others may advise if the partition scheme which immediately occurs to me - 3 partitions: swap, /tmp and /mnt/video/my_tmp - is wise. RAID 0 will be twice as fast as any single drive, but for me I wouldn't need a large volume in that configuration, as I wouldn't keep anything important on it, nor the root of my system, nor anything that would need restoring in the event of a failure. Stroller. [1] US readers: I'm not sure if you use the same expression. In the UK the airing cupboard is the small cupboard in which the home's hot water tank sits. I guess you may keep the hot water tank in a large basement, but British homes have less room, so it is confined in a small cupboard which gets very warm indeed. Consequently it is used to dry bath towels after use, and hence the cupboard's name.
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On 14 Dec 2008, at 16:31, Grant wrote: ... A RAID won't cause more heat or noise than a second drive but it will also How much perceived noise does a second drive create? See my other reply. I'd say if you don't care about redundancy, you should go for a single 1TB disk. I'd prefer a Samsung Spinpoint F1. Spinpoints have the reputation of being a good mix between cost effectiveness, speed and noise. Do you think that would result in a greater speed increase than another Seagate and RAID0? No. Stroller.
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My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. RAID 0 will be twice as fast as any single drive I didn't realize that. Maybe I should just buy another drive identical to mine and run RAID0. That would be cheap, twice as fast, twice the capacity, and with some amount more heat and noise. I have a separate backup system so I'm not worried about data loss. I'm interested to hear from anyone who can comment on the perceived noise increase involved with going from one drive to two. This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be heard from the bedroom. - Grant
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 Out of space with 320G? Have you considered putting your multimedia in an external hard drive? What would be the benefit of using an external drive instead of an internal drive? Heat wouldn't be a problem which is good, but it would mean a little extra clutter. Wouldn't it be slower over USB? I'm doing some Blu-Ray ripping/decrypting and it seems like the speed is being limited by I/O. It depends on what your needs are. Personally I use an external hard drive for storing my music collection and video files (movies, series, etc). I haven't had any problem while watching videos or listening music from the external hard drive. But I guess for other purposes it might not be the best solution.
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Grant wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. RAID 0 will be twice as fast as any single drive I didn't realize that. Maybe I should just buy another drive identical to mine and run RAID0. That would be cheap, twice as fast, twice the capacity, and with some amount more heat and noise. I have a separate backup system so I'm not worried about data loss. I'm interested to hear from anyone who can comment on the perceived noise increase involved with going from one drive to two. This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be heard from the bedroom. - Grant I currently have two hard drives but had three until I got my DVD burner. Even when I had three drives in my case, I couldn't hear them because of the CPU and other fans running. I guess either my drives were quiet or you may be water cooling or something. I haven't had a problem with drive noise in ages. I do have a server case so heat has never been a issue for me. Right now my case temp is 73F, my CPU is 90.5F. One hard drive is at 77F and the other is at 84F. The one running at 84F is the currently active one with my OS. The other is just sitting there spinning. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:36:35 -0800, Grant wrote: This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? -- Neil Bothwick I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with sound. The only fans are the CPU fan and power supply fan. My video card blew a capacitor the other day and I think it was heat. - Grant
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:42:30 -0800, Grant wrote: Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with sound. I wasn't suggesting putting the insulation over the air vents ;-) -- Neil Bothwick To err is human; to really foul things up requires a computer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sonntag 14 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with sound. The only fans are the CPU fan and power supply fan. My video card blew a capacitor the other day and I think it was heat. - Grant and that is why you have one or two slow moving 12cm or 14 cm fans in your case. Slow = low noise. Then some insulation on the sides, buttom and top and vibration dampers for the harddisks and noise goes down a lot.
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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 14 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote: This system is in the living room and the current hard drive can be hea Have you considered adding sound insultation to the case? That's not a bad idea, but I don't want to keep heat in along with sound. The only fans are the CPU fan and power supply fan. My video card blew a capacitor the other day and I think it was heat. - Grant and that is why you have one or two slow moving 12cm or 14 cm fans in your case. Slow = low noise. Then some insulation on the sides, buttom and top and vibration dampers for the harddisks and noise goes down a lot. I painted the sides of my case with some of that rubber type of paint like goes on a roof. That helped a lot as far as noise goes. With the side off, it can be a bit noisy but with it on, there is almost no noise. It dampens the metal so that it can't let the vibrations of the noise through the sides. My top and bottom are pretty strong anyway so they do all right. Dale :-) :-)
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My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. RAID 0 will be twice as fast as any single drive I didn't realize that. Maybe I should just buy another drive identical to mine and run RAID0. That would be cheap, twice as fast, twice the capacity, and with some amount more heat and noise. I have a separate backup system so I'm not worried about data loss. Thanks a lot everyone. I think I'm going to get a second identical 320GB drive and run RAID0 for speed and capacity. If noise becomes a problem I'll insulate as some have suggested. My MSI motherboard supposedly has hardware RAID, but after Alan's scathing evaluation of built-in hardware RAID offerings, I'm thinking it might be crap. It's just a $75 consumer motherboard. Should I set up software RAID0? Am I getting into a(nother) big project? On another system which must be about 10 years old, I'd like to replace the IDE hard drive with a high capacity drive. High-capacity IDE drives are pretty much non-existent on newegg.com, but I'd like to find one around 500GB. Is moving that system over to the new drive as simple as plugging it in, partitioning, formatting, copying, and rebooting? - Grant
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On another system which must be about 10 years old, I'd like to replace the IDE hard drive with a high capacity drive. High-capacity IDE drives are pretty much non-existent on newegg.com, but I'd like to find one around 500GB. Is moving that system over to the new drive as simple as plugging it in, partitioning, formatting, copying, and rebooting? I forgot to ask, if the new drive is ATA100 and the old motherboard can only do ATA33 or something, will they still work together? - Grant
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My desktop currently runs one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140 I'm pretty much out of space and I'm trying figure out the best way to expand. The factors to consider are cost, capacity, speed, noise, and heat. RAID 0 will be twice as fast as any single drive I didn't realize that. Maybe I should just buy another drive identical to mine and run RAID0. That would be cheap, twice as fast, twice the capacity, and with some amount more heat and noise. I have a separate backup system so I'm not worried about data loss. Thanks a lot everyone. I think I'm going to get a second identical 320GB drive and run RAID0 for speed and capacity. If noise becomes a problem I'll insulate as some have suggested. My MSI motherboard supposedly has hardware RAID, but after Alan's scathing evaluation of built-in hardware RAID offerings, I'm thinking it might be crap. It's just a $75 consumer motherboard. Should I set up software RAID0? Am I getting into a(nother) big project? On another system which must be about 10 years old, I'd like to replace the IDE hard drive with a high capacity drive. High-capacity IDE drives are pretty much non-existent on newegg.com, but I'd like to find one around 500GB. Is moving that system over to the new drive as simple as plugging it in, partitioning, formatting, copying, and rebooting? - Grant Grant, I have no direct experience but I was asking some questions on this list recently. One disadvantage of software RAD would be that partition management tools like parted may not (or WILL not) do resizing on a software RAID but will (or should!) on hardware RAID. If you go with software RAID and later decide that a partition needs to be moved, resized, etc., then you may not be able to do it. I would suggest finding a good, if inexpensive, hardware RAID card or possibly play a bit with the RAID stuff on your motherboard to see if parted can work with it. Just some thoughts. Cheers, Mark
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on 12/15/2008 02:32 AM Grant wrote the following: On another system which must be about 10 years old, I'd like to replace the IDE hard drive with a high capacity drive. High-capacity IDE drives are pretty much non-existent on newegg.com, but I'd like to find one around 500GB. Is moving that system over to the new drive as simple as plugging it in, partitioning, formatting, copying, and rebooting? - Grant Do not forget to install grub (or lilo) on the new disk. :-)
