Re: [gentoo-user] Remove NetworkManager without breaking cinnamon ?
You should start a new thread for your topic, instead of replying to an existing thread to avoid messing up messages listed by thread. Regarding your question: Cinnamon has a hardwired dependency on networkmanager. I understand you can mask the networkmanager service or remove it, but bits of it remain (nm-applet) and have to be disabled. Have a look here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/555630/how-can-i-get-rid-of-the-networkmanager-applet-if-i-use-wicd https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Cinnamon#Disable_the_NetworkManager_applet On Saturday, 14 January 2023 10:41:56 GMT mehdi chemloul wrote: > Hi, (i'm a endUser) i try to remove NetworkManager but it's seems to > have somes dependencies with cinnamon-control-center ? It's possible > without break cinnamon or worst ...? > > Cheers. > > Rumpelstilschien
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 20:22 -0400, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: > I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update > --deep world from installing it again. > How to do this ? > 1. Switch away from Mozilla products. Evolution is a great Thunderbird alternative, and Epiphany is a passable Firefox substitute. 2a. Give up on SVG support in anything other than inkscape. The only two standalone (i.e. outside of inkscape) SVG libraries involve rust. 2b. Add gnome-base/librsvg to package.provided, and use pre-built binary packages[0] for any GTK icon themes you need. This isn't perfect (a few application icons won't render), but it's livable. 3. If you use app-antivirus/clamav, the stable 0.103.x series will remain rust-free and supported (in Gentoo) until it no longer works, or has a security issue that isn't easy to backport. Unless you need this for compliance reasons or for a mail server with third-party signatures, the "good" news is that its detection rate has never been great. You're not much worse off without it. 4a. Help the Gentoo developers by pointing out any packages that currently depend on dev-python/cryptography (which now needs rust) where that dependency can be made optional by a USE flag. 4b. If upstream is interested, you can try to port python packages away from the cryptography package to something like pyNaCl. [0]https://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2021/09/experimental-binary-gentoo-package.html
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
On 12/05/2022 02:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that I am forced to have it. Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and now rust. Tongue in cheek, but have you tried doing away with gcc, clang etc? If you're going to use a source-based system, a bunch of compilers "comes with the territory". Many people see Rust as a "better C than C", so that's why it's becoming popular. (Oh, and does Rust have its own compiler, or is Rust just part of llvm?). The way things are going you might find all you need is the llvm collection, and gcc will be obsolete ... Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 22:24 -0400, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: > a choice would be to just go with firefox-bin if not rust-bin. I went with rust-bin because lots of GTK programs (evince, gimp, deluge) as well as some other miscellaneous utilities rely on librsvg which requires rust. So, since I need rust anyway, I just use the bin version to save effort, but still build firefox from source in order to disable anti- features like EME.
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
Cal, like I said, gentoo has always been about choices. I am not blaming anyone for anything. At the end of the day, it is open source, and the work done by the community is highly appreciated. I am sorry it was understood the other way around. The frustration level grows when I have too many build tools that take forever to build, and there's no way around it. And yes, like Grant said, a choice would be to just go with firefox-bin if not rust-bin. Thank you all On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:03 PM cal wrote: > > On 5/11/22 18:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: > > Miles, > > Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder" > > is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choice> Firefox > > requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ? > > There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not ! > At the distribution level, sure, but the Gentoo package maintainers > don't necessarily have the authority to control what upstream software > developers are doing. I continue to find it perplexing how many people > on this list hold responsible the Gentoo packaging for the > decision-making of upstream developers. > > Significant core components of Firefox are written in Rust, and have > been for years. Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eyes of > the beholder, but it has nothing to do with the Gentoo packaging -- it's > a Mozilla decision. > > > > And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on > > my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that > > I am forced to have it. > > Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development > > tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and > > now rust. > > > > Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must > > have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know > > there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an > > option. > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone > > wrote: > >> > >> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear > >> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days. There are an > >> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a > >> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from. > >> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of > >> others too. > >> > >> Miles > >> > >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy wrote: > >>> > >>> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust > >>> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust` > >>> > >>> Julien > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com: > >>> > >>> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update > >>> --deep world from installing it again. > >>> How to do this ? > >>> > >>> > >> > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
On 5/11/22 18:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote: > Miles, > Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder" > is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choice> Firefox > requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ? > There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not ! At the distribution level, sure, but the Gentoo package maintainers don't necessarily have the authority to control what upstream software developers are doing. I continue to find it perplexing how many people on this list hold responsible the Gentoo packaging for the decision-making of upstream developers. Significant core components of Firefox are written in Rust, and have been for years. Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eyes of the beholder, but it has nothing to do with the Gentoo packaging -- it's a Mozilla decision. > > And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on > my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that > I am forced to have it. > Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development > tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and > now rust. > > Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must > have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know > there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an > option. > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone > wrote: >> >> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear >> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days. There are an >> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a >> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from. >> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of >> others too. >> >> Miles >> >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy wrote: >>> >>> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust >>> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust` >>> >>> Julien >>> >>> >>> >>> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com: >>> >>> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update >>> --deep world from installing it again. >>> How to do this ? >>> >>> >>
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
Thank you both Julien and Miles for your help. I got the list I wanted, and I can go ahead with removing rust. On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:25 PM Julien Roy wrote: > > You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust > To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust` > > Julien > > > > May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com: > > I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update > --deep world from installing it again. > How to do this ? > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
Miles, Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder" is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choices. Firefox requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ? There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not ! And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that I am forced to have it. Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and now rust. Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an option. On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone wrote: > > If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear > in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days. There are an > increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a > dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from. > Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of > others too. > > Miles > > On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy wrote: > > > > You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust > > To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust` > > > > Julien > > > > > > > > May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com: > > > > I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update > > --deep world from installing it again. > > How to do this ? > > > > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely
If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days. There are an increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from. Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of others too. Miles On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy wrote: > > You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust > To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust` > > Julien > > > > May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com: > > I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update > --deep world from installing it again. > How to do this ? > >
Re: [gentoo-user] remove from list please
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
Am Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:48:57 +0200 schrieb Raffaele Belardi: > I might give Xfce a try. I did not find any definitive resource on the > web stating that LXDE is dead. There are some recent commits on the > sourceforge repo so it looks still alive (although not kickin'). I guess I wasn't quite up to date. That's what http://lxqt.org/about/ says: "Historically, LXQt is the product of the merge between LXDE-Qt, an initial Qt flavour of LXDE, and Razor-qt, a project aiming to develop a Qt based desktop environment with similar objectives as the current LXQt. LXQt was first supposed to become the successor of LXDE one day but as of 09/2016 both desktop environments will keep coexisting for the time being." Nevertheless I like Xfce better, mainly because in my opinion it has more and better panel add-ons and it feels slightly better. But, like I said, it's just a matter of taste. > Probably I was using the same here, thanks for reminding me. You're welcome. > I used xdm (although it looks ugly) because I need a DM that updates > the wtmp file and lxdm was not. Do you know if slim/lightdm support > it? I did some research at the time but I forgot. They both do it. With slim you need to add these two lines into your /etc/slim.conf: sessionstart_cmd/usr/bin/sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY %user sessionstop_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY %user But if I recall correctly this was already added by default on Gentoo. But it's possible that I had to add them myself and just forgot it. I haven't tested lightdm on Gentoo, yet. But on my Raspberry Pi on which I currently run Arch Linux (despite systemd) it does it out-of-the-box. On Debian based Distributions there seems to be a bug. Heiko
Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 23:20 +0200, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:55:22 +0200 > schrieb Raffaele Belardi: > > > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager > > You don't need to uninstall networkmanager except you want to > uninstall > it for some other reasons. It doesn't need gnome or systemd. Right. It's only personal preferences (startup scripts are plain enough here, no need for dynamic reconfiguration). > > > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta > > I'd prefer Xfce, but that's a matter of taste. As far as I know LXDE > isn't developed any more in favor of LXQt. I might give Xfce a try. I did not find any definitive resource on the web stating that LXDE is dead. There are some recent commits on the sourceforge repo so it looks still alive (although not kickin'). > > > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit > > You don't need to install sysvinit explicitly. It's a dependency of > openrc. > > Instead of anacron I'd suggest fcron. It has all the features of both > cron and anacron. That was a mistake on my part, actually I was using vixie-cron. It's a 24/7 online machine. > > Instead of sysklogd I would use syslog-ng. I don't remember the > reasons. Probably I was using the same here, thanks for reminding me. > Instead of xdm you'd better try slim or lightdm. Lightdm doesn't need > systemd either, except if you want to use multiseat with it. I used xdm (although it looks ugly) because I need a DM that updates the wtmp file and lxdm was not. Do you know if slim/lightdm support it? I did some research at the time but I forgot. > > Then you should replace udev by eudev and put USE="-gnome -systemd" > into your USE flags in /etc/portage/make.conf. > > Just to be absolutely sure put this line into > your /etc/portage/make.conf, too: > INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd > /usr/lib/systemd /usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd" > > Heiko >
Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 18:31 +0200, Nils Freydank wrote: > Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017, 17:55:22 CEST schrieb Raffaele > Belardi: > > After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old > > workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be: > > > > 1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install > > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager > > 3. emerge -C systemd > > 4. change profile to generic desktop (non-Gnome) > > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta > > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit > > 7. reboot > > > > I doubt it will be this easy... anything I'm missing, suggestions? > > Hi, I’d run it a bit differently: > - change profile > - force-remove gnome (emerge -aC) > - double checking USE flags and updating @world as usual > - cleanup (emerge --ask --verbose --clean) Isn't cleanup better performed by emerge --depclean? Won't emerge --depclean be confused if I change profile before running it? I'd expect it to check the USE flags before deciding to remove a package so if I change profile beforehand it will base decision on wrong assumptions. But I'm not at all sure about this, does anybody have an opinion? > - install services that aren’t already installed as a dep (maybe > anacron or ntpd/chrony) > - Adding the services to appropriate runlevels (e.g. rc-update add > xdm default) > > - If necessary, replacing udev with eudev. I don’t remember if it got > changed automatically > a while ago on one of my systems due the switch. > > If you didn’t explicitly removed OpenRC you have it already > installed, (removal is possible though), > and sysvinit gets pulled in by OpenRC ;-) > > BTW, I personally like elogind (a standalone "cut off" of systemd- > logind) and can suggest it > as a surrogate for consolekit2. Support by the upstream is incredible > fast. I'll check this. I confess consolekit is one of those packages that got installed somehow but I never did any configuration or study about it (i.e. I don't know why it's there...) > > Have fun :) > Nils > > thanks, > > > > raffaele > >
Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
On 09/12/2017 03:07 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400 > schrieb Mike Gilbert: > >> I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely >> to break things (like sys-fs/udev). > > No, it's not. > > I'd consider it a bug if systemd is not installed and > another package that doesn't depend on systemd relies on something that > is installed in a systemd subdirectory. > > And for me nothing was broken since several years now. > > And, like I said, I'm using eudev instead of udev. > > Heiko > You may be using eudev (and thus don't need to worry about it), but if a person blindly copies that into their make.conf and sys-fs/udev breaks, they'll get to keep the pieces because they deliberately screwed themselves. It's not a use case we can support. It doesn't mean INSTALL_MASK is always a bad idea; it's simply meant to be used by people who are fully aware of its effects. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer, Trustee, Treasurer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400 schrieb Mike Gilbert: > I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely > to break things (like sys-fs/udev). No, it's not. I'd consider it a bug if systemd is not installed and another package that doesn't depend on systemd relies on something that is installed in a systemd subdirectory. And for me nothing was broken since several years now. And, like I said, I'm using eudev instead of udev. Heiko
Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Heiko Baumswrote: > Just to be absolutely sure put this line into > your /etc/portage/make.conf, too: > INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd /usr/lib/systemd > /usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd" I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely to break things (like sys-fs/udev). Its only value is to give a warm and fuzzy feeling to people who have an irrational hatred of systemd.
Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:55:22 +0200 schrieb Raffaele Belardi: > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager You don't need to uninstall networkmanager except you want to uninstall it for some other reasons. It doesn't need gnome or systemd. > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta I'd prefer Xfce, but that's a matter of taste. As far as I know LXDE isn't developed any more in favor of LXQt. > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit You don't need to install sysvinit explicitly. It's a dependency of openrc. Instead of anacron I'd suggest fcron. It has all the features of both cron and anacron. Instead of sysklogd I would use syslog-ng. I don't remember the reasons. Instead of xdm you'd better try slim or lightdm. Lightdm doesn't need systemd either, except if you want to use multiseat with it. Then you should replace udev by eudev and put USE="-gnome -systemd" into your USE flags in /etc/portage/make.conf. Just to be absolutely sure put this line into your /etc/portage/make.conf, too: INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd /usr/lib/systemd /usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd" Heiko
Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd
Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017, 17:55:22 CEST schrieb Raffaele Belardi: > After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old > workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be: > > 1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager > 3. emerge -C systemd > 4. change profile to generic desktop (non-Gnome) > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit > 7. reboot > > I doubt it will be this easy... anything I'm missing, suggestions? Hi, I’d run it a bit differently: - change profile - force-remove gnome (emerge -aC) - double checking USE flags and updating @world as usual - cleanup (emerge --ask --verbose --clean) - install services that aren’t already installed as a dep (maybe anacron or ntpd/chrony) - Adding the services to appropriate runlevels (e.g. rc-update add xdm default) - If necessary, replacing udev with eudev. I don’t remember if it got changed automatically a while ago on one of my systems due the switch. If you didn’t explicitly removed OpenRC you have it already installed, (removal is possible though), and sysvinit gets pulled in by OpenRC ;-) BTW, I personally like elogind (a standalone "cut off" of systemd-logind) and can suggest it as a surrogate for consolekit2. Support by the upstream is incredible fast. Have fun :) Nils > thanks, > > raffaele -- GPG fingerprint: '00EF D31F 1B60 D5DB ADB8 31C1 C0EC E696 0E54 475B' Nils Freydank signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove default 'gentoo' repo in repos.conf
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:42:42 -0700 Alex Crawford alex.crawf...@coreos.com wrote: I am attempting to remove the default 'gentoo' repository definition from my list of repositories. Even though I am using a custom repos.conf in /etc/portage, I see that portage is including the default 'gentoo' entry from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is there any way I can indicate in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the 'gentoo' repository? Thanks. For a temporary solution, make /usr/portage as empty as possible; for a more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do this. Though I think that most of the forks still use the Portage tree; so, it might be hard to find what you are looking for. You can also put /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf in CONFIG_PROTECT and adjust it there; put a symlink in /etc for convenience, such that you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove default 'gentoo' repo in repos.conf
Thanks for the suggestions. I'd rather not modify /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf if I can help it and /usr/portage is completely empty in my installation. I've been toying around with adding a 'deleted' attribute to the repository section. I'll start a discussion in the portage dev channel. -Alex On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:42:42 -0700 Alex Crawford alex.crawf...@coreos.com wrote: I am attempting to remove the default 'gentoo' repository definition from my list of repositories. Even though I am using a custom repos.conf in /etc/portage, I see that portage is including the default 'gentoo' entry from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is there any way I can indicate in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the 'gentoo' repository? Thanks. For a temporary solution, make /usr/portage as empty as possible; for a more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do this. Though I think that most of the forks still use the Portage tree; so, it might be hard to find what you are looking for. You can also put /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf in CONFIG_PROTECT and adjust it there; put a symlink in /etc for convenience, such that you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
Re: [gentoo-user] remove fancy framebuffer on boot
Am Samstag, 27. Oktober 2012, 11:22:08 schrieb Tami King: Hello, I have a new laptop and when it boots after the initial start up the output goes from a larger text to something very small with the penguins displayed. My desktop doesn't do this and I am pretty sure that I shut if off there and I don't remember what I did and my searches haven't turned up anything useful at this point. If I don't want framebuffer with the images and small text, what do I need to do to get rid of it? Thanks, Tami no framebuffer? -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] remove fancy framebuffer on boot
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:22:08 -0500, Tami King wrote: I have a new laptop and when it boots after the initial start up the output goes from a larger text to something very small with the penguins displayed. That sounds like kernel modesetting (KMS), disable it by adding nomodeset to the kernel parameters. -- Neil Bothwick Did you know that eskimos have 17 different words for linguist? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:35:23 -0400, Robert Herr wrote: On 7/6/12 2:05 AM, gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Topics (messages 139628 through 139677): [massive snip] This list is for two type of people: Those who can read documentation well enough to be able to enjoy Gentoo. Those who cannot read documentation well enough to be able to unsubscribe -- Neil Bothwick Nymphomania-- an illness you hear about but never encounter. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove
On Friday 06 Jul 2012 21:28:08 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:35:23 -0400, Robert Herr wrote: On 7/6/12 2:05 AM, gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Topics (messages 139628 through 139677): [massive snip] This list is for two type of people: Those who can read documentation well enough to be able to enjoy Gentoo. Those who cannot read documentation well enough to be able to unsubscribe LOL! It seems they can't even read the instructions in the headers of the message ... -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 19:24:22 Pau Peris wrote: n=`wc -l /var/lib/portage/world|awk '{ print $1 }'`; for i in `seq 1 $n`;do pkg=`cat /var/lib/portage/world|head -n$i|tail -n1`; echo -e Packages depending on $pkg. /tmp/auditWorldFile.log equery d $pkg /tmp/auditWorldFile.log echo -e /tmp/auditWorldFile.log done; or without the counting loop: while read pkg; do echo done /var/lib/portage/world ;-) -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Beamy, Scot me up!
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
The following lines creates an auditWorldFile.log log file which will show packages requires by other packages, so theones you can safely remove. #!/bin/bash n=`wc -l /var/lib/portage/world|awk '{ print $1 }'`; for i in `seq 1 $n`;do pkg=`cat /var/lib/portage/world|head -n$i|tail -n1`; echo -e Packages depending on $pkg. /tmp/auditWorldFile.log equery d $pkg /tmp/auditWorldFile.log echo -e /tmp/auditWorldFile.log done; 2010/12/8 Johannes Kimmel johannes.kim...@gmx.de: On 12/08/2010 12:23 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. Hi, I wanted to add, that a minimal world in my opinion isn't always what you want. For example in the time I searched for a suitable window manager for me I did a lot of depclean these days and accidently removed the xserver. There was no harm done, but I figured, that my world file should contain all packages, that should never removed automatically unless I want to. This way there is a little less danger involved using depclean. So this type of work might only be done by hand. Johannes Kimmel
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite of --noreplace. I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for emerge. Happy reading! -- Matthew W. Summers
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On 12/08/10 14:40:56, Matthew Summers wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite of --noreplace. I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for emerge. Happy reading! Sorry, but I still don't see it. The main question is which packages might be removed from 'world'? Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. In my experience the world file isn't huge - 50-100 lines - but only if it contains the things that really need to be there. I've simply commented out specific entries and run emerge -pvDuN @world to determine if the entry wasn't necessary, and if it wasn't then removed it. When I've boiled it down to things that need to be there (I.e. - I can still run emerge -pvDuN @world and there would be no changes) then I run emerge - p --depclean to look at what can be removed, make sure it's OK, and then run depclean for real. Hope this helps, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:22 on Wednesday 08 December 2010, Helmut Jarausch did opine thusly: On 12/08/10 14:40:56, Matthew Summers wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite of --noreplace. I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for emerge. Happy reading! Sorry, but I still don't see it. The main question is which packages might be removed from 'world'? Your tools for this are two eyeballs and a brain. World gets bloated when users emerge libs and apps blindly that are covered by other packages and - meta ebuilds (avoid this with emerge -1) Edit the world file and remove everything you think might not be needed. Leave only apps you know for sure you need and want. Then run emerge -p --depclean which may or may not want to remove stuff. Inspect the list and add important stuff back into world with emerge -n. Repeat until --depclean returns null output. eix-test-obsolete also gives useful clues about redundant world entries, but not in a clearly laid out section like you are after. I know of no app that does that. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 07:57 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. In my experience the world file isn't huge - 50-100 lines - but only if it contains the things that really need to be there. I've simply commented out specific entries and run emerge -pvDuN @world to determine if the entry wasn't necessary, and if it wasn't then removed it. When I've boiled it down to things that need to be there (I.e. - I can still run emerge -pvDuN @world and there would be no changes) then I run emerge - p --depclean to look at what can be removed, make sure it's OK, and then run depclean for real. I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file. It requires gentoolkit. It basically looks at packages in world that have reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep). Just # auditworld /var/lib/portage/world http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. As far as I know there is currently no tool available for something like this. I have a skript which runs emerge -pv --depclean for every entry in world. If depclean returns reverse dependencies the package in question is redundant in world. It takes quite some time but works reliable. There are false positives for packages with PDEPENDS, but you will recognize this when emerge -pv --depclean wants to remove packages which you want to keep afterwards and you can add them back manually. Another method would be removing the world file (backup before) and run the regenworld script afterwards. The result is not really minimal so there will still be redundant entries. I asked the portage maintainer about such a tool, as it would be best if it uses the portage API to speed things up. He didn't not see the point of such a script but thought about writing something which creates a minimal word file. If you want such a functionality I recommend to open a bug about it. -- Daniel Pielmeier
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On 8/12/2010, at 4:11pm, Albert Hopkins wrote: ... I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file. It requires gentoolkit. It basically looks at packages in world that have reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep). Just # auditworld /var/lib/portage/world http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/ I think this only works on ~ARCH, right? On x86 I get: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./auditworld, line 20, in module import gentoolkit.sets ImportError: No module named sets Stroller
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 16:28 +, Stroller wrote: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/ I think this only works on ~ARCH, right? On x86 I get: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./auditworld, line 20, in module import gentoolkit.sets ImportError: No module named sets ... probaby. I have an older (untested) version you can try: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302309/
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On 12/08/10 17:11:58, Albert Hopkins wrote: I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file. It requires gentoolkit. It basically looks at packages in world that have reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep). Just # auditworld /var/lib/portage/world http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/ Many thanks, I've updated it a bit to generate a new world file (using python3) http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302337/ One should have a look at the diffs (e.g. meld) before replacing the old world file. Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.ukwrote: On 8/12/2010, at 4:11pm, Albert Hopkins wrote: ... I have a script I used to locate redudancies in the world file. It requires gentoolkit. It basically looks at packages in world that have reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep). Just # auditworld /var/lib/portage/world http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/ I think this only works on ~ARCH, right? On x86 I get: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./auditworld, line 20, in module import gentoolkit.sets ImportError: No module named set Are you sure it's even it gentoolkit? I have that but no auditworld on x86. It's not in gentoolkit-dev either. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
Are you sure it's even it gentoolkit? I have that but no auditworld on x86. It's not in gentoolkit-dev either. It's not IN gentoolkit, it NEEDS gentoolkit. It is here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/ Greetings Sebastian Beßler
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:22:13 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Sorry, but I still don't see it. The main question is which packages might be removed from 'world'? If you don't use it directly, it should probably be removed - so lib* for a start. Then run emerge --depclean -p and see what would be uninstalled. -- Neil Bothwick I have a mind like a steel...uh...thingamajig... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto
On 12/08/2010 12:23 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they were not contained in world. My current attempt would be to write a script which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world. If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world. Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds. Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. Hi, I wanted to add, that a minimal world in my opinion isn't always what you want. For example in the time I searched for a suitable window manager for me I did a lot of depclean these days and accidently removed the xserver. There was no harm done, but I figured, that my world file should contain all packages, that should never removed automatically unless I want to. This way there is a little less danger involved using depclean. So this type of work might only be done by hand. Johannes Kimmel
Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:22:19 -0600, Dale wrote: True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a lot of cleaning to do as well. I clean mine every few months and it still has some size to the output. That's why I run it every week :) You got to much time on your hands. You need better things to do. lol :-) When maintaining a Gentoo system, little and often usually take less time in the ling run. I get emailed the results of eix-test-obsolete, revdep-rebuild -p and a couple of other checks from each computer each week. Most weeks I just scan the mails and move on as nothing is reported. Occasionally I remove a line or two from /etc/portage/*, which is far less work than trying to decipher the mess after leaving it for several months. -- Neil Bothwick ... I'm simply not a nice girl, she whispered tartly. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:11:49 -0600, Dale wrote: eix-test-obsolete Be prepared for a LONG list tho. It prints a LOT on mine. That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P -- Neil Bothwick I wonder how much deeper would the ocean be without sponges. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:11:49 -0600, Dale wrote: eix-test-obsolete Be prepared for a LONG list tho. It prints a LOT on mine. That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a lot of cleaning to do as well. I clean mine every few months and it still has some size to the output. It just depends on how much as went stable since adding a package to one or more of those files. It is handy tho. I'm glad someone wrote that little program. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:01:47 -0600, Dale wrote: That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a lot of cleaning to do as well. I clean mine every few months and it still has some size to the output. That's why I run it every week :) -- Neil Bothwick Master of all I survey (at the moment, empty pizza boxes) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:01:47 -0600, Dale wrote: That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a lot of cleaning to do as well. I clean mine every few months and it still has some size to the output. That's why I run it every week :) You got to much time on your hands. You need better things to do. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries
chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties: hi, I'd like to remove unneeded entries on package.keywords and I was wondering if there's some program to do that (or if it's a good idea for me to try to do it :) ). for example, I may have: =www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6 but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry becomes totally useless. and I may also unmask an ebuild without a version, and some time later this ebuild will have no keyworded version, so that package.keywords entry will be useless too. see you, -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] This should work. eix-test-obsolete Be prepared for a LONG list tho. It prints a LOT on mine. I would also recommend you save a copy of those files just in case. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:56:43 -0200 Crístian Viana wrote: for example, I may have: =www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6 but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry becomes totally useless. # emerge eix # eix-test-obsolete -d
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain. How would I remove these? Thanks, Mark dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * dragonfly ~ # emerge -C =cat/pack-ver -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! So far I've been unable to get this working. Tried to Google around for more info on this but found nothing so possibly it's just a spelling problem I haven't figured out? I've finished updating the machine and this is one of the last things I'd like to take care of. No rush. Doesn't hurt anything that they are there, but would be nice to clean up. Thanks, Mark dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. dragonfly ~ # dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver No matches found. dragonfly ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. dragonfly ~ # dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver No matches found. dragonfly ~ # The OP meant cat as in category, pack as in package name and ver as in version. You are supposed to supply the correct package and version and category for the command. For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0 substitute the package you want to remove as applicable. W -- Pintsize: I'm always naked! Sortir en Pantoufles: up 969 days, 19:07
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Willie Wongww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. dragonfly ~ # dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver No matches found. dragonfly ~ # The OP meant cat as in category, pack as in package name and ver as in version. You are supposed to supply the correct package and version and category for the command. For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0 substitute the package you want to remove as applicable. W Please Willie, that's too obvious and was attempted before I posted the first time. ;-) I repeat that the suggestion from Jacob doesn't work: dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4 These are the packages that would be unmerged: --- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3 These are the packages that would be unmerged: --- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3' to unmerge. No packages selected for removal by unmerge dragonfly ~ # Again as history, I first noticed this issue when emerging gcc-4.3.2. I had 4.1.2 on the system, in use, as well as these old line items in gcc-config. Once I had rebuilt the system with 4.3.2 I did an emerge -C =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 and got rid of that one both from the system and this list, but this thread was about 'stranded' options which are the 3.3.3 and 3.4.4 selections. Are these options held in a file somewhere that can be edited by hand? Is there some option to gcc-config that can clean them up? Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain. How would I remove these? Thanks, Mark dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * dragonfly ~ # emerge -C =cat/pack-ver -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpjxGy8cIuwz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?
From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is not present in any previous version. Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!) AllenJB KH wrote: Hi, I am searching for the opposite of emerge --noreplace atom. I forgot -1 and now the package is part of the world file. It does not belong there, it is a dependency I wanted to update. I don't want to run --unmerge and -av1 again. What can I do? kh
Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?
AllenJB wrote: From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is not present in any previous version. Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!) AllenJB I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine. Just leave it nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line. Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too. It should be easy to find. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?
Dale schrieb: AllenJB wrote: From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is not present in any previous version. Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!) AllenJB I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine. Just leave it nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line. Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too. It should be easy to find. Dale :-) :-) Hi, thanks for the answer. One more question: Where exactly is the world file? Is it in /var/db/pkg/ ? kh
Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?
On Tue, 05 May 2009 10:00:40 +0200, KH gentoo-u...@konstantinhansen.de wrote: Dale schrieb: AllenJB wrote: From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is not present in any previous version. Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!) AllenJB I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine. Just leave it nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line. Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too. It should be easy to find. Dale :-) :-) Hi, thanks for the answer. One more question: Where exactly is the world file? Is it in /var/db/pkg/ ? /var/lib/portage/world kh -- Xavier Parizet YaGB : http://gentooist.com GPG :DC81 6FEE 6EBE FCE4 1C18 202F E575 4A5D 036D 1408
Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 09:44:58 KH wrote: Hi, I am searching for the opposite of emerge --noreplace atom. I forgot -1 and now the package is part of the world file. It does not belong there, it is a dependency I wanted to update. I don't want to run --unmerge and -av1 again. What can I do? vi /var/lib/portage/world followed by intelligent use of the / and dd functions in vi :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just remove all kde at once? emerge -C kde-meta emerge --depclean -a -- Neil Bothwick I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10. Currently its taken me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very slow progress Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just remove all kde at once? BillK Hi Something like this should help # equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend and then the same for kde-misc # equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend From here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml HTH Uwe -- /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Uwe \ / against HTML e-mail | keksvernichter@@gmail.com x against MS attachments | Key: 93BF09A2 @ pool.sks-keyservers.net / \ www.asciribbon.org | Key: 93BF09A2 @ keys.gnupg.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 14:04 +0200, Uwe wrote: On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10. Currently its taken me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very slow progress Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just remove all kde at once? BillK Hi Something like this should help # equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend and then the same for kde-misc # equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend From here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml Thanks Uwe, I found this and used it and its now happily rebuilding. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 12:58 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just remove all kde at once? emerge -C kde-meta emerge --depclean -a Thanks Neil, I used the xarg way from the kde meta page, but I'll keep this in mind - the first time I've seen a use for depclean thats really useful vice housekeeping. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:34:27 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote: I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address. I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and attempted to configure the interface manually. How? We can't guess at what changes you made. However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. How do I fix this? By posting the configs here, particularly /etc/conf.d/net. We have to see the config file to be able to tell what's wrong with it. -- Neil Bothwick Mr. Worf, scan that ship. Aye Captain. 300 dpi? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[solved] RE: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...
-Original Message- From: Michael Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, list -- I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address. I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and attempted to configure the interface manually. However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. How do I fix this? Also, I'd tried installing and configuring djbdns. I can't get the nameservers in resolv.conf to give me dns, even though I can ping them. And, starting sshd calls dhcp and kills the eth0 device. How can I fix this? Any takers? -- Michael Higgins [ solved ] - found offending line in /etc/conf.d/net. Can ssh into machine. Still no DNS joy. I'll try getting a clue on #gentoo, I guess. -- Michael Higgins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:40 PM On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:34:27 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote: I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address. I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and attempted to configure the interface manually. How? We can't guess at what changes you made. However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. How do I fix this? By posting the configs here, particularly /etc/conf.d/net. We have to see the config file to be able to tell what's wrong with it. (As I mentioned in different post, I found the offending line in conf.d/net and fixed. Or, thought I did...) Here is /etc/conf.d/net: config_eth0=( 192.168.100.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.100.255 ) routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.100.1 ) /etc/nsswitch.conf: passwd: compat shadow: compat group: compat # passwd:db files nis # shadow:db files nis # group: db files nis hosts: files dns networks:files dns services:db files protocols: db files rpc: db files ethers: db files netmasks:files netgroup:files bootparams: files automount: files aliases: files /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost ::1 localhost /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver 209.116.241.10 nameserver 216.99.225.31 nameserver 216.99.233.253 . . . The problem is that I installed djbdns and ran the scripts to set it up. It didn't work to cache and serve dns queries, so I gave up. But unmerging it left me with no DNS at all. I was hoping to find out what these scripts overwrote that's hijacking my DNS requests. Anyway, if anyone on the list has removed djbdns and re-configured access directly to their ISP's nameservers, I'd like to know if it was effortless, or was there something else required. -- Michael Higgins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
On Sunday 12 November 2006 20:58, Marco Calviani wrote: Hi list, i would like to remove prelink and put the system to the state it has before the prelink procedure. I've read that a # prelink -ua can do the job but i would have some suggestions from you all. It is enough to behave like this? Gentoo provides a prelink howto [1]. But the bottom line is you need to do: # prelink -ua emerge -Cva prelink As long as prelink is installed portage will use it... [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml -- Bo Andresen pgpca9MatWxu6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is this: emerge -euD world This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still installed will use prelink again... Also --update and --deep are ignored with --emptytree. Finally --unmerge of any prelinked package would fail the checksum and the binaries would be left alone if prelink --undo didn't work. But because portage does prelink --undo (which works) before checking the checksum --unmerge works just fine... -- Bo Andresen pgp9jbRCCryna.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is this: emerge -euD world This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still installed will use prelink again... Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to yes. I prefer to do my prelinking myself, so I set it to no - and emerge keeps its hand off prelink. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
On Monday 13 November 2006 14:22, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is this: emerge -euD world This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still installed will use prelink again... Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to yes. I prefer to do my prelinking myself, so I set it to no - and emerge keeps its hand off prelink. Yes, I missed that. Portage just adds to the list of locations in /etc/prelink.conf that should be prelinked if PRELINKING is set to yes. And during unmerge is runs prelink --undo as already mentioned. So if PRELINKING is set to yes then setting it to no is actually all that is required: # head -n 4 /etc/conf.d/prelink # Set this to no to disable prelinking altogether # (if you change this from yes to no prelink -ua # will be run next night to undo prelinking) PRELINKING=yes And if it is set to no then `prelink -ua` is sufficient to undo manual prelinking. -- Bo Andresen pgplBmKJQkKJx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
El Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:22:25 +0200 Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is this: emerge -euD world This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still installed will use prelink again... Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to yes. I prefer to do my prelinking myself, so I set it to no - and emerge keeps its hand off prelink. Uwe Thank you for pointing that out. Small detail that I bypassed. :P Jesús. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
El Domingo, 12 de Noviembre de 2006 20:58, Marco Calviani escribió: Hi list, i would like to remove prelink and put the system to the state it has before the prelink procedure. I've read that a # prelink -ua can do the job but i would have some suggestions from you all. It is enough to behave like this? Regards, mc I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is this: emerge -euD world Regards, Jesús. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
Hi, emerge -euD world but: is this going to recompile everything (e option) or only those that needs upgrade? Regards, mc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec
On 12 November 2006 22:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. Just out of curiosity: Why? As in it doesn't do its job or as in it makes the system unstable? My whole system is prelinked and it is very stable. Startup times of C++ applications are shorter. The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is this: emerge -euD world Probably right. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE
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Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE
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Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE
Jerry McBride wrote: On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:00, Nunya Bidness wrote: REMOVE NO! This may help you get rid of us. O_O To unsubscribe from a list, send an empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In other words, send a email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Give that a try. Dale :-) :-) Oh, I thought the NO was funny. LOL -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
On 6/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server? Actually, this is because the nvidia driver officially doesn't support xorg-server 1.1, only 1.0 (1.1 is xorg 7.1, 1.0 is xorg 7.0) Many people (myself included) find that it mostly works - some minor problems with bitmaps fonts in my experience. Unfortunately, if you've already installed xorg 7.1, it's really hard to downgrade. Perhaps you can find some help from someone else on doing that, I've make a local overlay ebuild without the block because it was working for me. -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx =Normal?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to break out of the thread where this is being discussed but I got part way thru some instructions about getting nvidia-glx setup and saw something that looks like it might throw a monkey wrench into things. I've emerged nvidia-kernel without problems. The next step is where I see this: root # emerge -vp nvidia-glx These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762) [ebuild N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762 USE=-dlloader 0 kB Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server? There is a bug with xorg 7.1 nvidia drivers [http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130292] If you have xorg 7.1 already, you must downgrade .. Use this package.mask http://rafb.net/paste/results/HPsvCD94.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 17:18, osv wrote: Hi all! It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it seems they're not considering me at all! I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but nothing happened. Can someone help me? Thank you! thats it, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] just check are you sending there from address you are signed to m -- Linux 2.6.15-ck3 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 17:38:33 up 3:14, 5 users, load average: 2.71, 1.89, 1.82 pgpkpWIoq0VMu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 16:18:49 +0100, osv wrote: I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but nothing happened. Did you send them from your subscription address? -- Neil Bothwick By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?
Did you send them from your subscription address? Yes, I'm sure I did. Bwhua!!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?
Quoting osv [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all! It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it seems they're not considering me at all! I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember a post a while back saying that you needed to send an email to lists.gentoo.org, not gentoo.org. But I could be wrong. At least that would explain why people seem to be having trouble unsubscribing... Andrew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?
andrew turner schreef: Quoting osv [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all! It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it seems they're not considering me at all! I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I seem to remember a post a while back saying that you needed to send an email to lists.gentoo.org, not gentoo.org. That was me in that thread, saying /maybe/ that was the problem. But Andrea Barsini (list admin) came by and said that the regular address (as given above) should work fine. So, no idea what the problem might be. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:45 +0100, osv wrote: Did you send them from your subscription address? Yes, I'm sure I did. Bwhua!!! Hi, This is from memory only, sorry deleted the other mails from the thread. You said to have send a mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO this should be:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (+ vs -). Check again (www.gentoo.org) HTH.Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 20:34 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:45 +0100, osv wrote: Did you send them from your subscription address? Yes, I'm sure I did. Bwhua!!! Hi, This is from memory only, sorry deleted the other mails from the thread. You said to have send a mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMHO this should be:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (+ vs -). Check again (www.gentoo.org) HTH.Rumen Taken from the headers of the post this is replying to: List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove
On Monday 06 February 2006 13:46, Peter H. wrote: __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com NO!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove
On Monday 06 February 2006 13:46, a tiny voice compelled Peter H. to write: Send an email to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:46:00 -0800 (PST), Peter H. wrote: [nothing] Now the person who suggested filtering mails with an empty subject and only 'unsubscribe' in the body should understand why it wouldn't work... -- Neil Bothwick Daisy Duke shorts would never go out of fashion. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remove
On Monday 06 February 2006 21:38, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:46:00 -0800 (PST), Peter H. wrote: [nothing] Now the person who suggested filtering mails with an empty subject and only 'unsubscribe' in the body should understand why it wouldn't work... It wouldn't work against this bizarre posting. But I cannot see any reason for posting mails with empty subject so I do think it would be good idea to filter that out. /Bo -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 08:04, Michael Kintzios wrote: -Original Message- From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 12:42 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo box: Prostar 2.8Gig ProStar Laptop w/60 Gig, 7200 rpm hard drive, 1 Gig Ram Current configuration: XP factory installed on 30gig partition Suse v9.0 installed on 20gig partition ext2, 1 Gig SWAP Goal: 1. Remove Suse. 2. Format 20 gig with Reisersf Leave Grub Install Gentoo Install VMware. Question: Can I install Gentoo over Suse or should I start over on a clean hard drive. Option I am considering: Start with a new hard drive, install Gentoo, VMware and then run XP as a virtual machine. Please advise. Background: I have installed Gentoo from Stage1 on a P3 600 Compaq Deskpro EN and Kubuntu on another Compaq Deskpro EN. But consider myself a Gentoo novice. This is my first email to the list. Thanks in advance for any help, Welcome to the list Steve! :-) As you probably know there's more than one ways to skin a cat, so I only express my preferences here; yours could be entirely different. I would leave the factory installed WinXP alone. Back up and thereafter remove all personal files and data from My Documents/Music/etc. Use Qtparted or Partition Magic, or whatever to shrink it down to 10-12G. Make sure that you defrag it a few times (before each successive shrinking). Then install Gentoo in the remaining space - preferably in primary partitions (it may give you an infinitesimally small increase in drive access/read/write speed). Assuming you are using the default three partition installation, then have swap first, root second, then an extended partition and in logical partition(s) you can fit home if you want it separately and boot last. Bringing Grub up could take an extra second but running the rest of the system should benefit proportionately. You can also create a vfat partition (personally I would put it on the second drive) and map all applications in WinXP to use that to save My Docs/Music/etc.- This would be your shared partitions to be able to access files from all OS'. With 1G RAM I would not have a swap partition any larger than 120M. As a matter of fact even that could be an overkill, but you never know. A single swap partition would do nicely for both Linuxes (change your /fstab accordingly). Size: a lot depends on what you use your system for, how often you reboot/flush your swap, logs and how many buggy applications you're running. Just as an indication on a 256M RAM box I am using a 145M swap partition which I have never seen filling up more than 75M. Even that only happened when Opera was caching all sort of chinese type fonts like mad and OOo was compiling at the same time. Otherwise even large compiles (KDE monolithic) struggle to use more than 65M. For reasons mentioned above your mileage may vary. Of course if you want to go multi-partition insane you could do what I've done and install Gentoo spread across multiple partitions on two drives/separate controllers to allow parallel access/processing by the CPU. A pain to back up but entertaining all the same if you like that sort of thing! 8-D Good luck, -- Regards, Mick Thanks for the help. The route I took was; 1. purchased another hd of same mfg/mdl 2. install gentoo (stage1 install). 3. install vmware 5.5 4. install win2k as a virtual machine. Had some wonderful help from someone in our Chicago office that guided me along via ssh and later vnd. Things are working fine EXCEPT FOR: 1. Printing: from Linux (win2k is ok) 2. Mounting USB drive and flash card reader. Will post to list as a separate questions if I do not figure it out. -- Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
-Original Message- From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 12:42 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo box: Prostar 2.8Gig ProStar Laptop w/60 Gig, 7200 rpm hard drive, 1 Gig Ram Current configuration: XP factory installed on 30gig partition Suse v9.0 installed on 20gig partition ext2, 1 Gig SWAP Goal: 1. Remove Suse. 2. Format 20 gig with Reisersf Leave Grub Install Gentoo Install VMware. Question: Can I install Gentoo over Suse or should I start over on a clean hard drive. Option I am considering: Start with a new hard drive, install Gentoo, VMware and then run XP as a virtual machine. Please advise. Background: I have installed Gentoo from Stage1 on a P3 600 Compaq Deskpro EN and Kubuntu on another Compaq Deskpro EN. But consider myself a Gentoo novice. This is my first email to the list. Thanks in advance for any help, Welcome to the list Steve! :-) As you probably know there's more than one ways to skin a cat, so I only express my preferences here; yours could be entirely different. I would leave the factory installed WinXP alone. Back up and thereafter remove all personal files and data from My Documents/Music/etc. Use Qtparted or Partition Magic, or whatever to shrink it down to 10-12G. Make sure that you defrag it a few times (before each successive shrinking). Then install Gentoo in the remaining space - preferably in primary partitions (it may give you an infinitesimally small increase in drive access/read/write speed). Assuming you are using the default three partition installation, then have swap first, root second, then an extended partition and in logical partition(s) you can fit home if you want it separately and boot last. Bringing Grub up could take an extra second but running the rest of the system should benefit proportionately. You can also create a vfat partition (personally I would put it on the second drive) and map all applications in WinXP to use that to save My Docs/Music/etc.- This would be your shared partitions to be able to access files from all OS'. With 1G RAM I would not have a swap partition any larger than 120M. As a matter of fact even that could be an overkill, but you never know. A single swap partition would do nicely for both Linuxes (change your /fstab accordingly). Size: a lot depends on what you use your system for, how often you reboot/flush your swap, logs and how many buggy applications you're running. Just as an indication on a 256M RAM box I am using a 145M swap partition which I have never seen filling up more than 75M. Even that only happened when Opera was caching all sort of chinese type fonts like mad and OOo was compiling at the same time. Otherwise even large compiles (KDE monolithic) struggle to use more than 65M. For reasons mentioned above your mileage may vary. Of course if you want to go multi-partition insane you could do what I've done and install Gentoo spread across multiple partitions on two drives/separate controllers to allow parallel access/processing by the CPU. A pain to back up but entertaining all the same if you like that sort of thing! 8-D Good luck, -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
I replaced SUSE with Gentoo on my server a few months back. I installed Gentoo from Suse, so that the server stayed up and running whilst I installed and configured everything. I did the install on a separate partition, and once everything was configured and any data copied over, I booted up into Gentoo properly. This way, I could mount the old Suse partition to have access to my old configuration files, and fix any problems I was having. So basically, if you have space and a spare partition/drive, I would install side by side until everything is working OK before binning Suse. -- Ant... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
Anthony Roy schreef: I replaced SUSE with Gentoo on my server a few months back. I installed Gentoo from Suse, so that the server stayed up and running whilst I installed and configured everything. I did the install on a separate partition, and once everything was configured and any data copied over, I booted up into Gentoo properly. This way, I could mount the old Suse partition to have access to my old configuration files, and fix any problems I was having. So basically, if you have space and a spare partition/drive, I would install side by side until everything is working OK before binning Suse. Yes, that's what I did as well (installed Gentoo from within a running SuSE install), but I've left my SuSE install as a fallback in the (increasingly unlikely) event that I bork Gentoo so badly that I can't boot it at all (and that the problems are more severe than can be easily fixed by just booting a LiveCD and fixing a couple of lines in a config file, which is the most typical situation). May I also point out a very useful SuSE feature that made this even easier; if you boot from the SuSE install disk when you have a currently-installed SuSE, you can choose to Install to another directory. Basically this *moves* your SuSE install to another partition or drive, without doing anything else to it. So when I went to install Gentoo next to SuSE, I was running SuSE on a temp 20GB HDD (temp because I had only installed SuSE because I completely broke Gentoo during The Great PAM Debacle, and it was really just about as unfixable-- by me-- as Gentoo is ever likely to get, but I had no particular intention or desire to keep SuSE on the system; I just needed to run something while I reorganized to reinstall Gentoo took a year, iirc), but intended to install Gentoo (and SuSE) to my newly-bought 80GB HDD (and dump the 20 GB drive). So I used that SuSE feature to move the current installation to the 80GB drive, and after testing, removed the junk drive. So then I had SuSE on the 80GB, and was able to go through the regular Alternative Install as normal, installing Gentoo to other partitions of the same drive. SuSE is still in my GRUB menu and bootable, but honestly, I never boot into it, and in fact I mainly mount the partition in order to use the space on it to back stuff up temporarily. But if I really needed to, I could boot it, the kernel is still in /boot, and there's no reason there should be a problem doing so (since I do all the backing up to /usr/local, where it shouldn't bother anything if I needed to actually boot SuSE). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list