Re: [gentoo-user] Remove NetworkManager without breaking cinnamon ?

[Michael]

You should start a new thread for your topic, instead of replying to an 
existing thread to avoid messing up messages listed by thread.

Regarding your question:  Cinnamon has a hardwired dependency on 
networkmanager.  I understand you can mask the networkmanager service or 
remove it, but bits of it remain (nm-applet) and have to be disabled.  Have a 
look here:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/555630/how-can-i-get-rid-of-the-networkmanager-applet-if-i-use-wicd

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Cinnamon#Disable_the_NetworkManager_applet


On Saturday, 14 January 2023 10:41:56 GMT mehdi chemloul wrote:
> Hi, (i'm a endUser) i try to remove NetworkManager but it's seems to
> have somes dependencies with cinnamon-control-center ? It's possible
> without break cinnamon or worst ...?
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Rumpelstilschien

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Michael Orlitzky]

On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 20:22 -0400, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> --deep world from installing it again.
> How to do this ?
> 

1. Switch away from Mozilla products. Evolution is a great Thunderbird
alternative, and Epiphany is a passable Firefox substitute.

2a. Give up on SVG support in anything other than inkscape. The only
two standalone (i.e. outside of inkscape) SVG libraries involve rust.

2b. Add gnome-base/librsvg to package.provided, and use pre-built
binary packages[0] for any GTK icon themes you need. This isn't perfect
(a few application icons won't render), but it's livable.

3. If you use app-antivirus/clamav, the stable 0.103.x series will
remain rust-free and supported (in Gentoo) until it no longer works, or
has a security issue that isn't easy to backport. Unless you need this
for compliance reasons or for a mail server with third-party
signatures, the "good" news is that its detection rate has never been
great. You're not much worse off without it.

4a. Help the Gentoo developers by pointing out any packages that
currently depend on dev-python/cryptography (which now needs rust)
where that dependency can be made optional by a USE flag.

4b. If upstream is interested, you can try to port python packages away
from the cryptography package to something like pyNaCl.


[0]https://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2021/09/experimental-binary-gentoo-package.html

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Wols Lists]

On 12/05/2022 02:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:

And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
I am forced to have it.
Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
now rust.


Tongue in cheek, but have you tried doing away with gcc, clang etc?

If you're going to use a source-based system, a bunch of compilers 
"comes with the territory".


Many people see Rust as a "better C than C", so that's why it's becoming 
popular. (Oh, and does Rust have its own compiler, or is Rust just part 
of llvm?).


The way things are going you might find all you need is the llvm 
collection, and gcc will be obsolete ...


Cheers,
Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Matt Connell]

On Wed, 2022-05-11 at 22:24 -0400, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> a choice would be to just go with firefox-bin if not rust-bin.

I went with rust-bin because lots of GTK programs (evince, gimp,
deluge) as well as some other miscellaneous utilities rely on librsvg
which requires rust.

So, since I need rust anyway, I just use the bin version to save
effort, but still build firefox from source in order to disable anti-
features like EME.

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel]

Cal, like I said, gentoo has always been about choices. I am not
blaming anyone for anything. At the end of the day, it is open source,
and the work done by the community is highly appreciated.
I am sorry it was understood the other way around.

The frustration level grows when I have too many build tools that take
forever to build, and there's no way around it.

And yes, like Grant said, a choice would be to just go with
firefox-bin if not rust-bin.

Thank you all


On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:03 PM cal  wrote:
>
> On 5/11/22 18:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> > Miles,
> > Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder"
> > is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choice> Firefox 
> > requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ?
> > There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not !
> At the distribution level, sure, but the Gentoo package maintainers
> don't necessarily have the authority to control what upstream software
> developers are doing.  I continue to find it perplexing how many people
> on this list hold responsible the Gentoo packaging for the
> decision-making of upstream developers.
>
> Significant core components of Firefox are written in Rust, and have
> been for years.  Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eyes of
> the beholder, but it has nothing to do with the Gentoo packaging -- it's
> a Mozilla decision.
> >
> > And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
> > my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
> > I am forced to have it.
> > Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
> > tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
> > now rust.
> >
> > Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must
> > have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know
> > there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an
> > option.
> >
> > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
> >> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
> >> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
> >> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
> >> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
> >> others too.
> >>
> >> Miles
> >>
> >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> >>> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
> >>>
> >>> Julien
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> >>> --deep world from installing it again.
> >>> How to do this ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[cal]

On 5/11/22 18:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> Miles,
> Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder"
> is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choice> Firefox 
> requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ?
> There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not !
At the distribution level, sure, but the Gentoo package maintainers
don't necessarily have the authority to control what upstream software
developers are doing.  I continue to find it perplexing how many people
on this list hold responsible the Gentoo packaging for the
decision-making of upstream developers.

Significant core components of Firefox are written in Rust, and have
been for years.  Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eyes of
the beholder, but it has nothing to do with the Gentoo packaging -- it's
a Mozilla decision.
> 
> And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
> my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
> I am forced to have it.
> Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
> tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
> now rust.
> 
> Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must
> have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know
> there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an
> option.
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone
>  wrote:
>>
>> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
>> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
>> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
>> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
>> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
>> others too.
>>
>> Miles
>>
>> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
>>>
>>> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
>>> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
>>>
>>> Julien
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
>>>
>>> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
>>> --deep world from installing it again.
>>> How to do this ?
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel]

Thank you both Julien and Miles for your help.
I got the list I wanted, and I can go ahead with removing rust.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:25 PM Julien Roy  wrote:
>
> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
>
> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> --deep world from installing it again.
> How to do this ?
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel]

Miles,
Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder"
is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choices.
Firefox requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ?
There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not !

And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
I am forced to have it.
Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
now rust.

Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must
have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know
there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an
option.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone
 wrote:
>
> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
> others too.
>
> Miles
>
> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
> >
> > You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> > To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
> >
> > Julien
> >
> >
> >
> > May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
> >
> > I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> > --deep world from installing it again.
> > How to do this ?
> >
> >
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Miles Malone]

If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
others too.

Miles

On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy  wrote:
>
> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alak...@gmail.com:
>
> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> --deep world from installing it again.
> How to do this ?
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] remove from list please

[Corentin “Nado” Pazdera]

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unsubscribe from the list.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Heiko Baums]

Am Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:48:57 +0200
schrieb Raffaele Belardi :

> I might give Xfce a try. I did not find any definitive resource on the
> web stating that LXDE is dead. There are some recent commits on the
> sourceforge repo so it looks still alive (although not kickin').

I guess I wasn't quite up to date.

That's what http://lxqt.org/about/ says:

"Historically, LXQt is the product of the merge between LXDE-Qt, an
initial Qt flavour of LXDE, and Razor-qt, a project aiming to develop a
Qt based desktop environment with similar objectives as the current
LXQt. LXQt was first supposed to become the successor of LXDE one day
but as of 09/2016 both desktop environments will keep coexisting for
the time being."

Nevertheless I like Xfce better, mainly because in my opinion it has
more and better panel add-ons and it feels slightly better. But, like I
said, it's just a matter of taste.

> Probably I was using the same here, thanks for reminding me.

You're welcome.

> I used xdm (although it looks ugly) because I need a DM that updates
> the wtmp file and lxdm was not. Do you know if slim/lightdm support
> it? I did some research at the time but I forgot.

They both do it.

With slim you need to add these two lines into your /etc/slim.conf:
sessionstart_cmd/usr/bin/sessreg -a -l $DISPLAY %user
sessionstop_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l $DISPLAY %user

But if I recall correctly this was already added by default on
Gentoo. But it's possible that I had to add them myself and just forgot
it.

I haven't tested lightdm on Gentoo, yet. But on my Raspberry Pi on
which I currently run Arch Linux (despite systemd) it does it
out-of-the-box. On Debian based Distributions there seems to be a bug.

Heiko

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Raffaele Belardi]

On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 23:20 +0200, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:55:22 +0200
> schrieb Raffaele Belardi :
> 
> > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager
> 
> You don't need to uninstall networkmanager except you want to
> uninstall
> it for some other reasons. It doesn't need gnome or systemd.

Right. It's only personal preferences (startup scripts are plain enough
here, no need for dynamic reconfiguration).

> 
> > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta
> 
> I'd prefer Xfce, but that's a matter of taste. As far as I know LXDE
> isn't developed any more in favor of LXQt.

I might give Xfce a try. I did not find any definitive resource on the
web stating that LXDE is dead. There are some recent commits on the
sourceforge repo so it looks still alive (although not kickin').

> 
> > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit
> 
> You don't need to install sysvinit explicitly. It's a dependency of
> openrc.
> 
> Instead of anacron I'd suggest fcron. It has all the features of both
> cron and anacron.

That was a mistake on my part, actually I was using vixie-cron. It's a
24/7 online machine.

> 
> Instead of sysklogd I would use syslog-ng. I don't remember the
> reasons.

Probably I was using the same here, thanks for reminding me.

> Instead of xdm you'd better try slim or lightdm. Lightdm doesn't need
> systemd either, except if you want to use multiseat with it.

I used xdm (although it looks ugly) because I need a DM that updates
the wtmp file and lxdm was not. Do you know if slim/lightdm support it?
I did some research at the time but I forgot.

> 
> Then you should replace udev by eudev and put USE="-gnome -systemd"
> into your USE flags in /etc/portage/make.conf.
> 
> Just to be absolutely sure put this line into
> your /etc/portage/make.conf, too:
> INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd
> /usr/lib/systemd /usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd"
> 
> Heiko
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Raffaele Belardi]

On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 18:31 +0200, Nils Freydank wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017, 17:55:22 CEST schrieb Raffaele
> Belardi:
> > After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old
> > workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be:
> > 
> > 1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install
> > 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager
> > 3. emerge -C systemd
> > 4. change profile to generic desktop (non-Gnome)
> > 5. emerge -N lxde-meta
> > 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit
> > 7. reboot
> > 
> > I doubt it will be this easy... anything I'm missing, suggestions?
> 
> Hi, I’d run it a bit differently:
> - change profile
> - force-remove gnome (emerge -aC)
> - double checking USE flags and updating @world as usual
> - cleanup (emerge --ask --verbose --clean)

Isn't cleanup better performed by emerge --depclean?

Won't emerge --depclean be confused if I change profile before running
it? I'd expect it to check the USE flags before deciding to remove a
package so if I change profile beforehand it will base decision on
wrong assumptions. But I'm not at all sure about this, does anybody
have an opinion?

> - install services that aren’t already installed as a dep (maybe
> anacron or ntpd/chrony)
> - Adding the services to appropriate runlevels (e.g. rc-update add
> xdm default)
> 
> - If necessary, replacing udev with eudev. I don’t remember if it got
> changed automatically
> a while ago on one of my systems due the switch.
> 
> If you didn’t explicitly removed OpenRC you have it already
> installed, (removal is possible though),
> and sysvinit gets pulled in by OpenRC ;-)
> 
> BTW, I personally like elogind (a standalone "cut off" of systemd-
> logind) and can suggest it
> as a surrogate for consolekit2. Support by the upstream is incredible
> fast.

I'll check this. I confess consolekit is one of those packages that got
installed somehow but I never did any configuration or study about it
(i.e. I don't know why it's there...)

> 
> Have fun :)
> Nils
> > thanks,
> > 
> > raffaele
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Daniel Campbell]

On 09/12/2017 03:07 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400
> schrieb Mike Gilbert :
> 
>> I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely
>> to break things (like sys-fs/udev).
> 
> No, it's not.
> 
> I'd consider it a bug if systemd is not installed and
> another package that doesn't depend on systemd relies on something that
> is installed in a systemd subdirectory.
> 
> And for me nothing was broken since several years now.
> 
> And, like I said, I'm using eudev instead of udev.
> 
> Heiko
> 
You may be using eudev (and thus don't need to worry about it), but if a
person blindly copies that into their make.conf and sys-fs/udev breaks,
they'll get to keep the pieces because they deliberately screwed
themselves. It's not a use case we can support. It doesn't mean
INSTALL_MASK is always a bad idea; it's simply meant to be used by
people who are fully aware of its effects.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Heiko Baums]

Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400
schrieb Mike Gilbert :

> I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely
> to break things (like sys-fs/udev).

No, it's not.

I'd consider it a bug if systemd is not installed and
another package that doesn't depend on systemd relies on something that
is installed in a systemd subdirectory.

And for me nothing was broken since several years now.

And, like I said, I'm using eudev instead of udev.

Heiko

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Mike Gilbert]

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Heiko Baums  wrote:
> Just to be absolutely sure put this line into
> your /etc/portage/make.conf, too:
> INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd /usr/lib/systemd 
> /usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd"

I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely
to break things (like sys-fs/udev).

Its only value is to give a warm and fuzzy feeling to people who have
an irrational hatred of systemd.

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Heiko Baums]

Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:55:22 +0200
schrieb Raffaele Belardi :

> 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager

You don't need to uninstall networkmanager except you want to uninstall
it for some other reasons. It doesn't need gnome or systemd.

> 5. emerge -N lxde-meta

I'd prefer Xfce, but that's a matter of taste. As far as I know LXDE
isn't developed any more in favor of LXQt.

> 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit

You don't need to install sysvinit explicitly. It's a dependency of
openrc.

Instead of anacron I'd suggest fcron. It has all the features of both
cron and anacron.

Instead of sysklogd I would use syslog-ng. I don't remember the reasons.

Instead of xdm you'd better try slim or lightdm. Lightdm doesn't need
systemd either, except if you want to use multiseat with it.

Then you should replace udev by eudev and put USE="-gnome -systemd"
into your USE flags in /etc/portage/make.conf.

Just to be absolutely sure put this line into
your /etc/portage/make.conf, too:
INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd /lib32/systemd /lib64/systemd /usr/lib/systemd 
/usr/lib32/systemd /usr/lib64/systemd /etc/systemd"

Heiko

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

[Nils Freydank]

Am Dienstag, 12. September 2017, 17:55:22 CEST schrieb Raffaele Belardi:
> After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old
> workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be:
> 
> 1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install
> 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager
> 3. emerge -C systemd
> 4. change profile to generic desktop (non-Gnome)
> 5. emerge -N lxde-meta
> 6. emerge -N xdm openrc anacron sysklogd sysvinit
> 7. reboot
> 
> I doubt it will be this easy... anything I'm missing, suggestions?
Hi, I’d run it a bit differently:
- change profile
- force-remove gnome (emerge -aC)
- double checking USE flags and updating @world as usual
- cleanup (emerge --ask --verbose --clean)
- install services that aren’t already installed as a dep (maybe anacron or 
ntpd/chrony)
- Adding the services to appropriate runlevels (e.g. rc-update add xdm default)

- If necessary, replacing udev with eudev. I don’t remember if it got changed 
automatically
a while ago on one of my systems due the switch.

If you didn’t explicitly removed OpenRC you have it already installed, (removal 
is possible though),
and sysvinit gets pulled in by OpenRC ;-)

BTW, I personally like elogind (a standalone "cut off" of systemd-logind) and 
can suggest it
as a surrogate for consolekit2. Support by the upstream is incredible fast.

Have fun :)
Nils
> thanks,
> 
> raffaele

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove default 'gentoo' repo in repos.conf

[Alex Crawford]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'd rather not modify
/usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf if I can help it and /usr/portage is
completely empty in my installation. I've been toying around with adding a
'deleted' attribute to the repository section. I'll start a discussion in
the portage dev channel.

-Alex


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Tom Wijsman  wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:42:42 -0700
> Alex Crawford  wrote:
>
> > I am attempting to remove the default 'gentoo' repository definition
> > from my list of repositories. Even though I am using a custom
> > repos.conf in /etc/portage, I see that portage is including the
> > default 'gentoo' entry from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is
> > there any way I can indicate in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the
> > 'gentoo' repository? Thanks.
>
> For a temporary solution, make /usr/portage as empty as possible; for a
> more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do
> this. Though I think that most of the forks still use the Portage tree;
> so, it might be hard to find what you are looking for.
>
> You can also put /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf in CONFIG_PROTECT
> and adjust it there; put a symlink in /etc for convenience, such that
> you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files.
>
> --
> With kind regards,
>
> Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
> Gentoo Developer
>
> E-mail address  : tom...@gentoo.org
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>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove default 'gentoo' repo in repos.conf

[Tom Wijsman]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 12:42:42 -0700
Alex Crawford  wrote:

> I am attempting to remove the default 'gentoo' repository definition
> from my list of repositories. Even though I am using a custom
> repos.conf in /etc/portage, I see that portage is including the
> default 'gentoo' entry from /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf. Is
> there any way I can indicate in /etc/portage/repos.conf to remove the
> 'gentoo' repository? Thanks.

For a temporary solution, make /usr/portage as empty as possible; for a
more permanent solution, I'd suggest to look at how Gentoo forks do
this. Though I think that most of the forks still use the Portage tree;
so, it might be hard to find what you are looking for.

You can also put /usr/share/portage/config/repos.conf in CONFIG_PROTECT
and adjust it there; put a symlink in /etc for convenience, such that
you won't forget about it when scanning through /etc config files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove fancy framebuffer on boot

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:22:08 -0500, Tami King wrote:

> I have a new laptop and when it boots after the initial start up the
> output goes from a larger text to something very small with the penguins
> displayed.


That sounds like kernel modesetting (KMS), disable it by adding nomodeset
to the kernel parameters.


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove fancy framebuffer on boot

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Samstag, 27. Oktober 2012, 11:22:08 schrieb Tami King:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a new laptop and when it boots after the initial start up the
> output goes from a larger text to something very small with the penguins
> displayed. My desktop doesn't do this and I am pretty sure that I shut
> if off there and I don't remember what I did and my searches haven't
> turned up anything useful at this point. If I don't want framebuffer
> with the images and small text, what do I need to do to get rid of it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tami

no framebuffer?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Mick]

On Friday 06 Jul 2012 21:28:08 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:35:23 -0400, Robert Herr wrote:
> > On 7/6/12 2:05 AM, gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org wrote:
> > > Topics (messages 139628 through 139677):
> [massive snip]
> 
> This list is for two type of people:
> 
> Those who can read documentation well enough to be able to enjoy Gentoo.
> 
> Those who cannot read documentation well enough to be able to unsubscribe

LOL!

It seems they can't even read the instructions in the headers of the message 
...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 07:35:23 -0400, Robert Herr wrote:

> On 7/6/12 2:05 AM, gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org wrote:
> > Topics (messages 139628 through 139677):
[massive snip]

This list is for two type of people:

Those who can read documentation well enough to be able to enjoy Gentoo.

Those who cannot read documentation well enough to be able to unsubscribe


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Frank Steinmetzger]

On Wednesday 15 December 2010 19:24:22 Pau Peris wrote:

> n=`wc -l /var/lib/portage/world|awk '{ print $1 }'`;
> for i in `seq 1 $n`;do
> pkg=`cat /var/lib/portage/world|head -n$i|tail -n1`;
> echo -e "Packages depending on $pkg." >> /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
> equery d $pkg >> /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
> echo -e "" >> /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
> done;

or without the counting loop:

while read pkg; do
echo 
done < /var/lib/portage/world

;-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Pau Peris]

The following lines creates an auditWorldFile.log log file which will
show packages requires by other packages, so theones you can safely
remove.


#!/bin/bash

n=`wc -l /var/lib/portage/world|awk '{ print $1 }'`;
for i in `seq 1 $n`;do
pkg=`cat /var/lib/portage/world|head -n$i|tail -n1`;
echo -e "Packages depending on $pkg." >> /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
equery d $pkg >> /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
echo -e "" >> /tmp/auditWorldFile.log
done;


2010/12/8 Johannes Kimmel :
> On 12/08/2010 12:23 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
>> /var/lib/portage/world
>> which would have been pulled in anyway
>> even if they were not contained in world.
>>
>> My current attempt would be to write a script
>> which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
>> If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
>>
>> Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
>>
>> Many thanks for a hint,
>> Helmut.
>>
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to add, that a minimal world in my opinion isn't always what you
> want. For example in the time I searched for a suitable window manager for
> me I did a lot of depclean these days and accidently removed the xserver.
> There was no harm done, but I figured, that my world file should contain all
> packages, that should never removed automatically unless I want to. This way
> there is a little less danger involved using depclean. So this type of work
> might only be done by hand.
>
> Johannes Kimmel
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Johannes Kimmel]

On 12/08/2010 12:23 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

Hi,

does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
/var/lib/portage/world
which would have been pulled in anyway
even if they were not contained in world.

My current attempt would be to write a script
which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.

Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.




Hi,

I wanted to add, that a minimal world in my opinion isn't always what 
you want. For example in the time I searched for a suitable window 
manager for me I did a lot of depclean these days and accidently removed 
the xserver. There was no harm done, but I figured, that my world file 
should contain all packages, that should never removed automatically 
unless I want to. This way there is a little less danger involved using 
depclean. So this type of work might only be done by hand.


Johannes Kimmel

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:22:13 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> Sorry, but I still don't see it.
> The main question is which packages might be removed
> from 'world'?

If you don't use it directly, it should probably be removed - so lib* for
a start. Then run emerge --depclean -p and see what would be uninstalled.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Sebastian Beßler]

Are you sure it's even it gentoolkit?  I have that but no auditworld on x86.
It's not in gentoolkit-dev either.


It's not IN gentoolkit, it NEEDS gentoolkit.

It is here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

Greetings

Sebastian Beßler

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Kevin O'Gorman]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Stroller wrote:

>
> On 8/12/2010, at 4:11pm, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> > ...
> > I have a script I used to locate "redudancies" in the world file.  It
> > requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that have
> > reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep).  Just
> >
> > # auditworld < /var/lib/portage/world
> >
> > http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/
>
> I think this only works on ~ARCH, right?
>
> On x86 I get:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "./auditworld", line 20, in 
>import gentoolkit.sets
> ImportError: No module named set
>

Are you sure it's even it gentoolkit?  I have that but no auditworld on x86.
It's not in gentoolkit-dev either.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12/08/10 17:11:58, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> I have a script I used to locate "redudancies" in the world file.  It
> requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that
> have
> reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep). 
> Just
> 
> # auditworld < /var/lib/portage/world
> 
> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

Many thanks, I've updated it a bit to generate a new world
file (using python3)
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302337/
One should have a look at the diffs (e.g. meld) before replacing
the old world file.

Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Albert Hopkins]

On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 16:28 +, Stroller wrote:

> > http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/
> 
> I think this only works on ~ARCH, right?
> 
> On x86 I get:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "./auditworld", line 20, in 
> import gentoolkit.sets
> ImportError: No module named sets
> 

... probaby.  I have an older (untested) version you can try:

http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302309/

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Stroller]

On 8/12/2010, at 4:11pm, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> ...
> I have a script I used to locate "redudancies" in the world file.  It
> requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that have
> reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep).  Just
> 
> # auditworld < /var/lib/portage/world
> 
> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

I think this only works on ~ARCH, right?

On x86 I get:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./auditworld", line 20, in 
import gentoolkit.sets
ImportError: No module named sets

Stroller

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Helmut Jarausch :
> Hi,
>
> does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
> /var/lib/portage/world
> which would have been pulled in anyway
> even if they were not contained in world.
>
> My current attempt would be to write a script
> which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
> If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
>
> Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.

As far as I know there is currently no tool available for something like this.

I have a skript which runs emerge -pv --depclean for every entry in
world. If depclean returns reverse dependencies the package in
question is redundant in world. It takes quite some time but works
reliable. There are false positives for packages with PDEPENDS, but
you will recognize this when "emerge -pv --depclean" wants to remove
packages which you want to keep afterwards and you can add them back
manually.

Another method would be removing the world file (backup before) and
run the regenworld script afterwards. The result is not really minimal
so there will still be redundant entries.

I asked the portage maintainer about such a tool, as it would be best
if it uses the portage API to speed things up. He didn't not see the
point of such a script but thought about writing something which
creates a minimal word file. If you want such a functionality I
recommend to open a bug about it.

-- 
Daniel Pielmeier

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Albert Hopkins]

On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 07:57 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
> > /var/lib/portage/world
> > which would have been pulled in anyway
> > even if they were not contained in world.
> >
> > My current attempt would be to write a script
> > which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
> > If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
> >
> > Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
> >
> > Many thanks for a hint,
> > Helmut.
> >
> >
> 
> In my experience the world file isn't huge - 50-100 lines - but only
> if it contains the things that really need to be there. I've simply
> commented out specific entries and run emerge -pvDuN @world to
> determine if the entry wasn't necessary, and if it wasn't then removed
> it. When I've boiled it down to things that need to be there (I.e. - I
> can still run emerge -pvDuN @world and there would be no changes) then
> I run emerge - p --depclean to look at what can be removed, make sure
> it's OK, and then run depclean for real.

I have a script I used to locate "redudancies" in the world file.  It
requires gentoolkit.  It basically looks at packages in world that have
reverse dependencies also in world (but only goes one level deep).  Just

# auditworld < /var/lib/portage/world

http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 17:22 on Wednesday 08 December 2010, Helmut 
Jarausch did opine thusly:

> On 12/08/10 14:40:56, Matthew Summers wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
> > 
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
> > > /var/lib/portage/world
> > > which would have been pulled in anyway
> > > even if they were not contained in world.
> > > 
> > > My current attempt would be to write a script
> > > which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
> > > If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
> > > 
> > > Many thanks for a hint,
> > > Helmut.
> > 
> > You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what
> > you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not
> > unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite
> > of
> > --noreplace.
> > 
> > I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for
> > emerge. Happy reading!
> 
> Sorry, but I still don't see it.
> The main question is which packages might be removed
> from 'world'?


Your tools for this are two eyeballs and a brain. World gets bloated when 
users emerge libs and apps blindly that are covered by other packages and -
meta ebuilds (avoid this with emerge -1)

Edit the world file and remove everything you think might not be needed. Leave 
only apps you know for sure you need and want. Then run "emerge -p --depclean" 
which may or may not want to remove stuff. Inspect the list and add important 
stuff back into world with "emerge -n". Repeat until --depclean returns null 
output.

eix-test-obsolete also gives useful clues about redundant world entries, but 
not in a clearly laid out section like you are after. I know of no app that 
does that.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
> /var/lib/portage/world
> which would have been pulled in anyway
> even if they were not contained in world.
>
> My current attempt would be to write a script
> which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
> If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
>
> Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
>
> Many thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.
>
>

In my experience the world file isn't huge - 50-100 lines - but only
if it contains the things that really need to be there. I've simply
commented out specific entries and run emerge -pvDuN @world to
determine if the entry wasn't necessary, and if it wasn't then removed
it. When I've boiled it down to things that need to be there (I.e. - I
can still run emerge -pvDuN @world and there would be no changes) then
I run emerge - p --depclean to look at what can be removed, make sure
it's OK, and then run depclean for real.

Hope this helps,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12/08/10 14:40:56, Matthew Summers wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
>  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
> > /var/lib/portage/world
> > which would have been pulled in anyway
> > even if they were not contained in world.
> >
> > My current attempt would be to write a script
> > which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
> > If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
> >
> > Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
> >
> > Many thanks for a hint,
> > Helmut.
> >
> >
> 
> You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what
> you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not
> unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite 
> of
> --noreplace.
> 
> I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for
> emerge. Happy reading!

Sorry, but I still don't see it.
The main question is which packages might be removed
from 'world'?

Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in "world" - howto

[Matthew Summers]

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from
> /var/lib/portage/world
> which would have been pulled in anyway
> even if they were not contained in world.
>
> My current attempt would be to write a script
> which executes emerge -vpc on each entry in world.
> If it wouldn't be removed it's obsolete in world.
>
> Unfortunately this has to be done in several rounds.
>
> Many thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.
>
>

You may find that using 'emerge --deselect some-package' to be what
you need. It removeds the file from your world file, but does not
unmerge the package. That command switch is the functional opposite of
--noreplace.

I think you will find a wealth of information in the manpage for
emerge. Happy reading!

-- 
Matthew W. Summers

Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:22:19 -0600, Dale wrote:

> >> True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a
> >> lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it
> >> still has some size to the output.
> >>
> > That's why I run it every week :)

> You got to much time on your hands.  You need better things to do.  lol

:-)

When maintaining a Gentoo system, little and often usually take less time
in the ling run. I get emailed the results of eix-test-obsolete,
revdep-rebuild -p  and a couple of other checks from each computer each
week. Most weeks I just scan the mails and move on as nothing is
reported. Occasionally I remove a line or two from /etc/portage/*, which
is far less work than trying to decipher the mess after leaving it for
several months.


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:01:47 -0600, Dale wrote:

   

That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P
   
   

True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a
lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it
still has some size to the output.
 

That's why I run it every week :)

   


You got to much time on your hands.  You need better things to do.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:01:47 -0600, Dale wrote:

> > That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P

> True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a 
> lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it 
> still has some size to the output.

That's why I run it every week :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:11:49 -0600, Dale wrote:

   

eix-test-obsolete

Be prepared for a LONG list tho.  It prints a LOT on mine.
 

That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P

   


True but if the OP hasn't cleaned his before, he may very well have a 
lot of cleaning to do as well.  I clean mine every few months and it 
still has some size to the output.  It just depends on how much as went 
stable since adding a package to one or more of those files.


It is handy tho.  I'm glad someone wrote that little program.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Neil Bothwick]

On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:11:49 -0600, Dale wrote:

> eix-test-obsolete
> 
> Be prepared for a LONG list tho.  It prints a LOT on mine.

That just means you have a lot of cleaning up to do :P


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Fab]

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:56:43 -0200
Crístian Viana wrote:
> for example, I may have:
> 
> =www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6
> 
> but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry
> becomes totally useless. 

# emerge eix
# eix-test-obsolete -d

Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

[Dale]

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

hi,

I'd like to remove unneeded entries on package.keywords and I was 
wondering if there's some program to do that (or if it's a good idea 
for me to try to do it :) ). for example, I may have:


=www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6

but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry 
becomes totally useless. and I may also unmask an ebuild without a 
version, and some time later this ebuild will have no keyworded 
version, so that package.keywords entry will be useless too.


see you,

--
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]


This should work.

eix-test-obsolete

Be prepared for a LONG list tho.  It prints a LOT on mine.  I would also 
recommend you save a copy of those files just in case.


Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked:
>> dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver
>> !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom.
>> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details.
>> dragonfly ~ #
>>
>> dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver
>> No matches found.
>> dragonfly ~ #
>
> The OP meant cat as in "category", pack as in "package name" and ver
> as in "version". You are supposed to supply the correct package and
> version and category for the command.
>
> For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be
>
> emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0
>
> substitute the package you want to remove as applicable.
>
> W

Please Willie, that's too obvious and was attempted before I posted
the first time. ;-)

I repeat that the suggestion from Jacob doesn't work:

dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
 [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
 [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4' to unmerge.

>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3

>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:

--- Couldn't find '=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.3' to unmerge.

>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge
dragonfly ~ #

Again as history, I first noticed this issue when emerging gcc-4.3.2.
I had 4.1.2 on the system, in use, as well as these old line items in
gcc-config. Once I had rebuilt the system with 4.3.2 I did an emerge
-C =sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 and got rid of that one both from the system
and this list, but this thread was about 'stranded' options which are
the 3.3.3 and 3.4.4 selections.

Are these options held in a file somewhere that can be edited by hand?
Is there some option to gcc-config that can clean them up?

Thanks,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Willie Wong]

On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:03:39PM -0700, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked:
> dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver
> !!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom.
> !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details.
> dragonfly ~ #
> 
> dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver
> No matches found.
> dragonfly ~ #

The OP meant cat as in "category", pack as in "package name" and ver
as in "version". You are supposed to supply the correct package and
version and category for the command. 

For example, to unmerge gcc-4.3.0 would be

emerge --unmerge =sys-devel/gcc-4.3.0

substitute the package you want to remove as applicable. 

W

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jacob Todd wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a
>> number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still
>> have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain.
>>
>> How would I remove these?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
>>  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
>>  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
>>  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
>>  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
>>  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
>>  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
>>  [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2
>>  [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
>> dragonfly ~ #
>>
>
> emerge -C =cat/pack-ver
>
> --
> Jake Todd
> // If it isn't broke, tweak it!
>

So far I've been unable to get this working. Tried to Google around
for more info on this but found nothing so possibly it's just a
spelling problem I haven't figured out?

I've finished updating the machine and this is one of the last things
I'd like to take care of. No rush. Doesn't hurt anything that they are
there, but would be nice to clean up.

Thanks,
Mark

dragonfly ~ # emerge -Cp =cat/pack-ver
!!! '=cat/pack-ver' is not a valid package atom.
!!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details.
dragonfly ~ #

dragonfly ~ # eix pack-ver
No matches found.
dragonfly ~ #

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove stranded gcc-config's?

[Jacob Todd]

On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:41:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> I was updating my wife's machine today and noticed that there are a
> number of older/stranded gcc-config's left on the machine. I still
> have gcc-4.1.2 but the other 3.3/3.4 versions should not remain.
> 
> How would I remove these?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
> dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
>  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
>  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
>  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
>  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
>  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
>  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
>  [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2
>  [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
> dragonfly ~ #
> 

emerge -C =cat/pack-ver

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 05 May 2009 09:44:58 KH wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am searching for the opposite of emerge --noreplace . I forgot
> -1 and now the package is part of the world file. It does not belong
> there, it is a dependency I wanted to update. I don't want to run
> --unmerge and -av1 again. What can I do?

vi /var/lib/portage/world

followed by intelligent use of the "/" and "dd" functions in vi :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[Xavier Parizet]

On Tue, 05 May 2009 10:00:40 +0200, KH 
wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>> AllenJB wrote:
>>> From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is
>>> not present in any previous version.
>>>
>>> Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually
>>> edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)
>>>
>>> AllenJB
>>>
>> 
>> I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine.  Just leave it
>> nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line.
>> 
>> Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too.  It
>> should be easy to find. 
>> 
>> Dale
>> 
>> :-)  :-)
>> 
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for the answer. One more question: Where exactly is the world
> file? Is it in /var/db/pkg/ ?

/var/lib/portage/world

> 
> kh

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[KH]

Dale schrieb:
> AllenJB wrote:
>> From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is
>> not present in any previous version.
>>
>> Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually
>> edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)
>>
>> AllenJB
>>
> 
> I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine.  Just leave it
> nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line.
> 
> Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too.  It
> should be easy to find. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
Hi,

thanks for the answer. One more question: Where exactly is the world
file? Is it in /var/db/pkg/ ?

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[Dale]

AllenJB wrote:
> From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is
> not present in any previous version.
>
> Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually
> edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)
>
> AllenJB
>

I have done this a few times as well and it worked fine.  Just leave it
nice and clean, remove the whole line instead of leaving a blank line.

Also, some nerd seems to have made it in alphabetical order too.  It
should be easy to find. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] remove a package from world without unmerging?

[AllenJB]

From Portage 2.2 rc30 onwards you can use --deselect. This ability is 
not present in any previous version.


Until you're using Portage 2.2, the other alternative is to manually 
edit the world file (MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!)


AllenJB

KH wrote:

Hi,

I am searching for the opposite of emerge --noreplace . I forgot
-1 and now the package is part of the world file. It does not belong
there, it is a dependency I wanted to update. I don't want to run
--unmerge and -av1 again. What can I do?

kh

Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[William Kenworthy]

On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 12:58 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> 
> > Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
> > remove all kde at once?
> 
> emerge -C kde-meta
> emerge --depclean -a
> 
Thanks Neil, I used the xarg way from the kde meta page, but I'll keep
this in mind - the first time I've seen a use for depclean thats really
useful vice housekeeping.

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[William Kenworthy]

On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 14:04 +0200, Uwe wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800
> William Kenworthy  wrote:
> 
> > I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
> > to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
> > me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
> > dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very
> > slow progress
> > 
> > Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
> > remove all kde at once?
> > 
> > BillK
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Something like this should help
> 
> # equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
> and then the same for kde-misc
> # equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
> 
> 
> From here:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml
> 

Thanks Uwe, I found this and used it and its now happily rebuilding.

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[Uwe]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800
William Kenworthy  wrote:

> I have got myself into a bind with kde 3.5.10 and 3.5.9 - I would like
> to unmerge all kde and then remerge it as 3.5.10.  Currently its taken
> me ages to unmerge packages as I have emereg world, which its just
> dawned on me is only printing 3 blocking packages at a time - very
> slow progress
> 
> Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
> remove all kde at once?
> 
> BillK
> 
> 

Hi

Something like this should help

# equery list kde-base/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend
and then the same for kde-misc
# equery list kde-misc/ | grep 3\.5 | xargs emerge --unmerge --pretend


From here:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-config.xml


HTH
Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove all kde and start again ...

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:44:01 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:

> Its just dawned on me that this is kde-meta - is there a way to just
> remove all kde at once?

emerge -C kde-meta
emerge --depclean -a


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RE: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...

[Michael Higgins]

> -Original Message-
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:40 PM

> 
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:34:27 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:
> 
> > I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address.
> > 
> > I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and 
> > attempted to configure the interface manually.
> 
> How? We can't guess at what changes you made.
> 
> > However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still 
> called. How do I 
> > fix this?
> 
> By posting the configs here, particularly /etc/conf.d/net. We 
> have to see the config file to be able to tell what's wrong with it.

(As I mentioned in different post, I found the offending line in conf.d/net
and fixed. Or, thought I did...)

Here is /etc/conf.d/net:


config_eth0=( "192.168.100.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.100.255" )
routes_eth0=( "default via 192.168.100.1" )

/etc/nsswitch.conf:

passwd:  compat
shadow:  compat
group:   compat

# passwd:db files nis
# shadow:db files nis
# group: db files nis

hosts:   files dns
networks:files dns

services:db files
protocols:   db files
rpc: db files
ethers:  db files
netmasks:files
netgroup:files
bootparams:  files

automount:   files
aliases: files

/etc/hosts:


127.0.0.1   localhost
::1 localhost

/etc/resolv.conf:

nameserver 209.116.241.10
nameserver 216.99.225.31
nameserver 216.99.233.253

. . .

The problem is that I installed djbdns and ran the scripts to set it up. 

It didn't work to cache and serve dns queries, so I gave up. But unmerging
it left me with no DNS at all.

I was hoping to find out what these scripts overwrote that's hijacking my
DNS requests.

Anyway, if anyone on the list has removed djbdns and re-configured access
directly to their ISP's nameservers, I'd like to know if it was effortless,
or was there something else required.

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[solved] RE: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...

[Michael Higgins]

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Higgins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Hello, list --
> 
> I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address.
> 
> I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the 
> package and attempted to configure the interface manually.
> 
> However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. 
> How do I fix this?
> 
> Also, I'd tried installing and configuring djbdns. 
> 
> I can't get the nameservers in resolv.conf to give me dns, 
> even though I can ping them.
> 
> And, starting sshd calls dhcp and kills the eth0 device.
> 
> How can I fix this? Any takers?
> 
> --
> Michael Higgins

[ solved ] - found offending line in /etc/conf.d/net. Can ssh into machine.

Still no DNS joy. I'll try getting a clue on #gentoo, I guess.

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove DHCPCD/djbdns -- and now, manual setup fails...

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:34:27 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:

> I have a server that had been running dhcpcd to get it's IP address.
> 
> I don't want to do like this anymore, so I removed the package and
> attempted to configure the interface manually.

How? We can't guess at what changes you made.

> However, somewhere in my configs dhcp client is still called. How do I
> fix this?

By posting the configs here, particularly /etc/conf.d/net. We have to see
the config file to be able to tell what's wrong with it.


-- 
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"Mr. Worf, scan that ship." "Aye Captain. 300 dpi?"


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Jesús Guerrero]

El Mon, 13 Nov 2006 15:22:25 +0200
Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> > On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> > > I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.
> > >
> > > The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd
> > > party tools is this:
> > >
> > > emerge -euD world
> >
> > This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is
> > still installed will use prelink again... 
> 
> Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to "yes". I prefer
> to do my prelinking myself, so I set it to "no" - and emerge keeps
> its hand off prelink.
> 
> Uwe
> 

Thank you for pointing that out. 

Small detail that I bypassed. :P

Jesús.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Jesús Guerrero]

El Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:29:07 +0100
"Marco Calviani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> Hi,
> 
> > emerge -euD world
> 
> but: is this going to recompile everything (e option) or only those
> that needs upgrade?
> 
> Regards,
> mc

Everything, but, except for the few packages that are binary-only or
docs-only. The two lists ("everything" and "what needs to be
recompiled") do have the same elements.

Jesús.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Monday 13 November 2006 14:22, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> > On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> > > I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.
> > >
> > > The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party
> > > tools is this:
> > >
> > > emerge -euD world
> >
> > This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still
> > installed will use prelink again...
>
> Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to "yes". I prefer to do
> my prelinking myself, so I set it to "no" - and emerge keeps its hand off
> prelink.

Yes, I missed that. Portage just adds to the list of locations 
in /etc/prelink.conf that should be prelinked if PRELINKING is set to yes. 
And during unmerge is runs prelink --undo as already mentioned. So if 
PRELINKING is set to yes then setting it to no is actually all that is 
required:

# head -n 4 /etc/conf.d/prelink
# Set this to no to disable prelinking altogether
# (if you change this from yes to no prelink -ua
# will be run next night to undo prelinking)
PRELINKING=yes

And if it is set to no then `prelink -ua` is sufficient to undo manual 
prelinking.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Uwe Thiem]

On 13 November 2006 14:44, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> > I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.
> >
> > The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party
> > tools is this:
> >
> > emerge -euD world
>
> This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still
> installed will use prelink again... 

Only if PRELINKING in /etc/conf.d/prelink is set to "yes". I prefer to do my 
prelinking myself, so I set it to "no" - and emerge keeps its hand off 
prelink.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 21:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:
> I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.
>
> The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools
> is this:
>
> emerge -euD world

This is slightly amusing. Remerging every package while prelink is still 
installed will use prelink again... Also --update and --deep are ignored 
with --emptytree. Finally --unmerge of any prelinked package would fail the 
checksum and the binaries would be left alone if prelink --undo didn't work. 
But because portage does prelink --undo (which works) before checking the 
checksum --unmerge works just fine...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Sunday 12 November 2006 20:58, Marco Calviani wrote:
> Hi list,
>i would like to remove prelink and put the system to the state it
> has before the prelink procedure. I've read that a
>
> # prelink -ua
>
> can do the job but i would have some suggestions from you all. It is
> enough to behave like this?

Gentoo provides a prelink howto [1]. But the bottom line is you need to do:

# prelink -ua && emerge -Cva prelink

As long as prelink is installed portage will use it...

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Uwe Thiem]

On 12 November 2006 22:40, Jesús Guerrero wrote:

> I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either.

Just out of curiosity: Why? As in "it doesn't do its job" or as in "it makes 
the system unstable"?

My whole system is prelinked and it is very stable. Startup times of C++ 
applications are shorter.

>
> The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools
> is this:
>
> emerge -euD world

Probably right.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Dale]

Marco Calviani wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> emerge -euD world
>
> but: is this going to recompile everything (e option) or only those
> that needs upgrade?
>
> Regards,
> mc
>--emptytree (-e)
>   Reinstalls all world packages and their dependencies to
> the  current  USE
>   specifications while differing from the installed set of
> packages as lit-
>   tle as possible.  You should run with --pretend first
> to  make  sure  the
>   result is what you expect.

That recompiles everything on your system. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Marco Calviani]

Hi,


emerge -euD world


but: is this going to recompile everything (e option) or only those
that needs upgrade?

Regards,
mc
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove prelink and purge prelinked exec

[Jesús Guerrero]

El Domingo, 12 de Noviembre de 2006 20:58, Marco Calviani escribió:
> Hi list,
>i would like to remove prelink and put the system to the state it
> has before the prelink procedure. I've read that a
>
> # prelink -ua
>
> can do the job but i would have some suggestions from you all. It is
> enough to behave like this?
>
> Regards,
> mc

I never trusted prelink. So, I dont trust it to un-prelink either. 

The best way to make sure your binaries are not altered by 3rd party tools is 
this:

emerge -euD world

Regards, Jesús.

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Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE

[Thomas Witt]

On 7/20/06, Nunya Bidness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
REMOVE

You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE

[Dale]

Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:00, Nunya Bidness wrote:
>   
>> REMOVE
>> 
>
> NO!
>   
This may help you get rid of us.  O_O

> To unsubscribe from a list, send an empty email to:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

In other words, send a email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Give that a try.

Dale
:-)  :-)

Oh, I thought the "NO" was funny.  LOL

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Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE

[Jerry McBride]

On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:00, Nunya Bidness wrote:
> REMOVE

NO!
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx <=Normal?

[Pavel Kouřil]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry to break out of the thread where this is being discussed but I
> got part way thru some instructions about getting nvidia-glx setup and
> saw something that looks like it might throw a monkey wrench into
> things.
>
> I've emerged nvidia-kernel without problems.
> The next step is where I see this:
>
> root # emerge -vp nvidia-glx
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>   [blocks B ] >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 
>   (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)
>   [ebuild  N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762
>   USE="-dlloader" 0 kB 
>
> Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server?
>
>   
There is a bug with xorg 7.1 && nvidia drivers 
[http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130292] If you have xorg 7.1
already, you must downgrade .. Use this package.mask
http://rafb.net/paste/results/HPsvCD94.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove xorg-server to emerge nvidia-glx <=Normal?

[Calvin Walton]

On 6/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  [blocks B ] >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99
  (is blocking media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762)
  [ebuild  N] media-video/nvidia-glx-1.0.8762
  USE="-dlloader" 0 kB

Is this normal... is nvidia-glx a replacement to xorg-server?


Actually, this is because the nvidia driver officially doesn't support
xorg-server 1.1, only 1.0 (1.1 is xorg 7.1, 1.0 is xorg 7.0)
Many people (myself included) find that it "mostly" works - some minor
problems with bitmaps fonts in my experience.

Unfortunately, if you've already installed xorg 7.1, it's really hard
to downgrade.
Perhaps you can find some help from someone else on doing that, I've
make a local overlay ebuild without the block because it was working
for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Michael Sullivan]

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 20:34 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:45 +0100, osv wrote:
> > > Did you send them from your subscription address?
> > 
> > Yes, I'm sure I did. Bwhua!!!
> Hi,
> This is from memory only, sorry deleted the other mails from the thread.
> You said to have send a mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> IMHO this should be:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (+ vs -).
> Check again (www.gentoo.org)
> HTH.Rumen

Taken from the headers of the post this is replying to:

List-Unsubscribe: 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Rumen Yotov]

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 17:45 +0100, osv wrote:
> > Did you send them from your subscription address?
> 
> Yes, I'm sure I did. Bwhua!!!
Hi,
This is from memory only, sorry deleted the other mails from the thread.
You said to have send a mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMHO this should be:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (+ vs -).
Check again (www.gentoo.org)
HTH.Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Holly Bostick]

andrew turner schreef:
> Quoting osv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>> Hi all! It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the 
>> list, but it seems
>> 
>> they're not considering me at all! I sent various empty mails (and 
>> even one or two with something written in) to
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I seem to remember a post a while back saying that you needed to send
>  an email to lists.gentoo.org, not gentoo.org.

That was me in that thread, saying /maybe/ that was the problem. But
Andrea Barsini (list admin) came by and said that the regular address
(as given above) should work fine.

So, no idea what the problem might be.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[andrew turner]

Quoting osv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi all!
> It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it seems
> 
> they're not considering me at all!
> I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in) to
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I seem to remember a post a while back saying that you needed to send an email 
to lists.gentoo.org, not gentoo.org.  But I could be wrong.  At least that 
would explain why people seem to be having trouble unsubscribing...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[osv]

> Did you send them from your subscription address?

Yes, I'm sure I did. Bwhua!!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 16:18:49 +0100, osv wrote:

> I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written
> in) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> but nothing happened.

Did you send them from your subscription address?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove?

[Martins Steinbergs]

On Tuesday 07 February 2006 17:18, osv wrote:
> Hi all!
> It's at least one week that I try to unsubscribe from the list, but it
> seems they're not considering me at all!
> I sent various empty mails (and even one or two with something written in)
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> but nothing happened.
>
> Can someone help me?
>
> Thank you!

thats it, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

just check are you sending there from address you are signed to

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Bo Andresen]

On Monday 06 February 2006 21:38, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:46:00 -0800 (PST), Peter H. wrote:
>
> [nothing]
>
> Now the person who suggested filtering mails with an empty subject and
> only 'unsubscribe' in the body should understand why it wouldn't work...

It wouldn't work against this bizarre posting. But I cannot see any reason for 
posting mails with empty subject so I do think it would be good idea to 
filter that out.

/Bo
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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Neil Bothwick]

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:46:00 -0800 (PST), Peter H. wrote:

[nothing]

Now the person who suggested filtering mails with an empty subject and
only 'unsubscribe' in the body should understand why it wouldn't work...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Ernie Schroder]

On Monday 06 February 2006 13:46, a tiny voice compelled Peter H. to write:

Send an email to:

 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove

[Jerry McBride]

On Monday 06 February 2006 13:46, Peter H. wrote:
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com

NO!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo

[Steve Wilson]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 08:04, Michael Kintzios wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 11 January 2006 12:42
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
> >
> >
> > box: Prostar 2.8Gig ProStar Laptop  w/60 Gig, 7200 rpm hard
> > drive, 1 Gig Ram
> > Current configuration:
> > XP factory installed on 30gig partition
> > Suse v9.0 installed on 20gig partition ext2,  1 Gig SWAP
> >
> > Goal:
> > 1. Remove Suse.
> > 2. Format 20 gig with Reisersf
> > Leave Grub
> > Install Gentoo
> > Install VMware.
> >
> > Question:
> > Can I install Gentoo over Suse or should I start over on a
> > clean hard drive.
> >
> > Option I am considering:
> > Start with a new hard drive, install Gentoo, VMware and then
> > run XP as a
> > virtual machine.
> > Please advise.
> >
> > Background:
> > I have installed Gentoo from Stage1 on a P3 600 Compaq Deskpro EN and
> > Kubuntu on another Compaq Deskpro EN.
> > But consider myself a Gentoo novice.
> >
> > This is my first email to the list.
> > Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> Welcome to the list Steve!  :-)
>
> As you probably know there's more than one ways to skin a cat, so I only
> express my preferences here;  yours could be entirely different.  I
> would leave the factory installed WinXP alone.  Back up and thereafter
> remove all personal files and data from My Documents/Music/etc.  Use
> Qtparted or Partition Magic, or whatever to shrink it down to 10-12G.
> Make sure that you defrag it a few times (before each successive
> shrinking).
>
> Then install Gentoo in the remaining space - preferably in primary
> partitions (it may give you an infinitesimally small increase in drive
> access/read/write speed).  Assuming you are using the default three
> partition installation, then have swap first, root second, then an
> extended partition and in logical partition(s) you can fit home if you
> want it separately and boot last.  Bringing Grub up could take an extra
> second but running the rest of the system should benefit
> proportionately.
>
> You can also create a vfat partition (personally I would put it on the
> second drive) and map all applications in WinXP to use that to save My
> Docs/Music/etc.- This would be your shared partitions to be able to
> access files from all OS'.
>
> With 1G RAM I would not have a swap partition any larger than 120M.  As
> a matter of fact even that could be an overkill, but you never know.  A
> single swap partition would do nicely for both Linuxes (change your
> /fstab accordingly).   Size:  a lot depends on what you use your system
> for, how often you reboot/flush your swap, logs and how many buggy
> applications you're running.  Just as an indication on a 256M RAM box I
> am using a 145M swap partition which I have never seen filling up more
> than 75M.  Even that only happened when Opera was caching all sort of
> chinese type fonts like mad and OOo was compiling at the same time.
> Otherwise even large compiles (KDE monolithic) struggle to use more than
> 65M.  For reasons mentioned above your mileage may vary.
>
> Of course if you want to go multi-partition insane you could do what
> I've done and install Gentoo spread across multiple partitions on two
> drives/separate controllers to allow parallel access/processing by the
> CPU.  A pain to back up but entertaining all the same if you like that
> sort of thing!  8-D
>
> Good luck,
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
Thanks for the help.
The route I took was;
1. purchased another hd of same mfg/mdl
2. install gentoo (stage1 install).
3. install vmware 5.5
4. install win2k  as a virtual machine.
Had some wonderful help from someone in our Chicago office that guided me 
along via ssh and later vnd.
Things are working fine EXCEPT FOR:
1. Printing: from Linux (win2k is ok)
2. Mounting USB drive and flash card reader.
Will post to list as a separate questions if I do not figure it out.
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RE: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo

[Michael Kintzios]

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 11 January 2006 12:42
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
> 
> 
> box: Prostar 2.8Gig ProStar Laptop  w/60 Gig, 7200 rpm hard 
> drive, 1 Gig Ram
> Current configuration:
> XP factory installed on 30gig partition
> Suse v9.0 installed on 20gig partition ext2,  1 Gig SWAP
> 
> Goal:
> 1. Remove Suse.
> 2. Format 20 gig with Reisersf
> Leave Grub
> Install Gentoo
> Install VMware.
> 
> Question:
> Can I install Gentoo over Suse or should I start over on a 
> clean hard drive.
> 
> Option I am considering:
> Start with a new hard drive, install Gentoo, VMware and then 
> run XP as a 
> virtual machine.
> Please advise.
> 
> Background:
> I have installed Gentoo from Stage1 on a P3 600 Compaq Deskpro EN and 
> Kubuntu on another Compaq Deskpro EN.
> But consider myself a Gentoo novice.
> 
> This is my first email to the list.
> Thanks in advance for any help,

Welcome to the list Steve!  :-)

As you probably know there's more than one ways to skin a cat, so I only
express my preferences here;  yours could be entirely different.  I
would leave the factory installed WinXP alone.  Back up and thereafter
remove all personal files and data from My Documents/Music/etc.  Use
Qtparted or Partition Magic, or whatever to shrink it down to 10-12G.
Make sure that you defrag it a few times (before each successive
shrinking).

Then install Gentoo in the remaining space - preferably in primary
partitions (it may give you an infinitesimally small increase in drive
access/read/write speed).  Assuming you are using the default three
partition installation, then have swap first, root second, then an
extended partition and in logical partition(s) you can fit home if you
want it separately and boot last.  Bringing Grub up could take an extra
second but running the rest of the system should benefit
proportionately.

You can also create a vfat partition (personally I would put it on the
second drive) and map all applications in WinXP to use that to save My
Docs/Music/etc.- This would be your shared partitions to be able to
access files from all OS'.

With 1G RAM I would not have a swap partition any larger than 120M.  As
a matter of fact even that could be an overkill, but you never know.  A
single swap partition would do nicely for both Linuxes (change your
/fstab accordingly).   Size:  a lot depends on what you use your system
for, how often you reboot/flush your swap, logs and how many buggy
applications you're running.  Just as an indication on a 256M RAM box I
am using a 145M swap partition which I have never seen filling up more
than 75M.  Even that only happened when Opera was caching all sort of
chinese type fonts like mad and OOo was compiling at the same time.
Otherwise even large compiles (KDE monolithic) struggle to use more than
65M.  For reasons mentioned above your mileage may vary.

Of course if you want to go multi-partition insane you could do what
I've done and install Gentoo spread across multiple partitions on two
drives/separate controllers to allow parallel access/processing by the
CPU.  A pain to back up but entertaining all the same if you like that
sort of thing!  8-D

Good luck,
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo

[Holly Bostick]

Anthony Roy schreef:
> I replaced SUSE with Gentoo on my server a few months back. I 
> installed Gentoo from Suse, so that the server stayed up and running
>  whilst I installed and configured everything. I did the install on a
>  separate partition, and once everything was configured and any data
>  copied over, I booted up into Gentoo properly.
> 
> This way, I could mount the old Suse partition to have access to my 
> old configuration files, and fix any problems I was having.
> 
> So basically, if you have space and a spare partition/drive, I would
>  install side by side until everything is working OK before binning 
> Suse.
> 

Yes, that's what I did as well (installed Gentoo from within a running
SuSE install), but I've left my SuSE install as a fallback in the
(increasingly unlikely) event that I bork Gentoo so badly that I can't
boot it at all (and that the problems are more severe than can be easily
fixed by just booting a LiveCD and fixing a couple of lines in a config
file, which is the most typical situation).

May I also point out a very useful SuSE feature that made this even
easier; if you boot from the SuSE install disk when you have a
currently-installed SuSE, you can choose to "Install to another
directory". Basically this *moves* your SuSE install to another
partition or drive, without doing anything else to it.

So when I went to install Gentoo next to SuSE, I was running SuSE on a
temp 20GB HDD (temp because I had only installed SuSE because I
completely broke Gentoo during The Great PAM Debacle, and it was really
just about as unfixable-- by me-- as Gentoo is ever likely to get, but I
had no particular intention or desire to keep SuSE on the system; I just
needed to run something while I reorganized to reinstall Gentoo took
a year, iirc), but intended to install Gentoo (and SuSE) to my
newly-bought 80GB HDD (and dump the 20 GB drive). So I used that SuSE
feature to move the current installation to the 80GB drive, and after
testing, removed the junk drive. So then I had SuSE on the 80GB, and was
able to go through the regular Alternative Install as normal, installing
Gentoo to other partitions of the same drive.

SuSE is still in my GRUB menu and bootable, but honestly, I never boot
into it, and in fact I mainly mount the partition in order to use the
space on it to back stuff up temporarily. But if I really needed to, I
could boot it, the kernel is still in /boot, and there's no reason there
should be a problem doing so (since I do all the backing up to
/usr/local, where it shouldn't bother anything if I needed to actually
boot SuSE).

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo

[Anthony Roy]

I replaced SUSE with Gentoo on my server a few months back. I
installed Gentoo from Suse, so that the server stayed up and running
whilst I installed and configured everything. I did the install on a
separate partition, and once everything was configured and any data
copied over, I booted up into Gentoo properly.

This way, I could mount the old Suse partition to have access to my
old configuration files, and fix any problems I was having.

So basically, if you have space and a spare partition/drive, I would
install side by side until everything is working OK before binning
Suse.

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