[Goanet]Nikhil.

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.kntimes.com/final/large35.asp?status=100&newsid=242

'My...' is essentially a family story: Sanjay Suri
Published on : 3/30/2005 12:25:00 PM  
Category : kntimes.com

His vulnerable face has made an impression with memorable roles in
"Pinjar" and "Jhankar Beats", but Sanjay Suri believes "My
Brother...Nikhil" is his breakthrough film.

"It's my baby. It took me nine months to put together," the
highly-talented, yet grossly under-utilised actor, who has also
produced "My...", told IANS in an interview.

After Madhur Bhandarkar's "Page 3" and Sanjay Leela Bhansali's
"Black", Onirban's path-breaking "My..." set 15 years ago when AIDS
was dreadfully stigmatised, is the next unconventional film to hit
theatres.

The film follows the HIV-positive gay man Nikhil in his struggles to
fight, first for the right to dignity, and then, for his life.

 

"We haven't preached about any issue. The story is essentially of how
a middleclass family comes together during a crisis about acceptance
of taboo relationships," said Sanjay, who claims he had to shave his
head and practise regular swimming to resemble Nikhil's character.

"I thought I deserved a little better as an actor. 'My...' has given
me that opportunity."

Excerpts from the interview:

Q: Is "My..." fact-based?

A: It is inspired by some incidents in the late 1980s when AIDS became
rampant. Some people had been arrested in Goa after testing positive.

We've set the film back by 15 years when mindsets about AIDS was
different - though, not very different. We still exist in a world
riddled with gender, sexual, political and religious biases.

Q: Do you play a bisexual character?

A: Not bisexual. Nikhil is homosexual, though that isn't why he gets
AIDS. We didn't want to create another level of bias by linking HIV
with homosexuality.

Q: Surprising you agreed to play a gay when top leading men still shy
away from doing so?

A: I wasn't the least apprehensive. But we had to be careful. My
director Onirban has handled the issue so sensitively, it doesn't
remain an issue.

The issue is no more how Nikhil got AIDS, but what happens thereafter.
We'd gone beyond the disease to examine the layers of ostracising a
person. I simply had to produce the film and act in it.

My character is a closeted gay, while his partner (Purab Kohli) is
not. I hope my film at least finds more social acceptance than such
people do in real life.

We haven't preached about any issue. The story is essentially of how a
middleclass family comes together during a crisis, about acceptance of
taboo relationships.

My character Nikhil has to fight for the right to dignity, before he
can begin to fight to live.

Q: Were you apprehensive about taking the plunge as a producer?

A: If I was, the film could never have been made. The big producers
either wanted to follow the market trend or to dictate which stars to
sign. We were on a different wavelength.

If I ever go on stage to win awards for this film, I want to say
thanks to all those who said no to us and forced us to produce this
film.

The cast was wonderful. Whoever we went to immediately said yes
because of the powerful script. Purab Kohli who plays my character's
gay partner cried when he saw the film.

Fortunately for us, people like Karan Johar saw and loved the film. A
word from the right quarters always helps. It is said - the letter 'I'
doesn't exist in the word 'team'. It didn't, during "My...".

Q: As an actor, is "My..." your first major break?

A: I guess it's my 'breakthrough' film. Just like my character Nikhil,
I never got a support system in Bollywood, no big hit. I was an
outsider without any connections.

After my roles in "Jhankar Beats" and "Pinjar", they knew I could act.
But I was never launched in a big way.

I didn't have too many great options as an actor. But I haven't
produced "My..." to create an opportunity for myself. I won't
necessarily be producing films in future too. But, "My..." had to be
made. Since no one else would do it I had to take the plunge.

The film has changed the way I look at my social responsibilities as
an entertainer. I was always a socially aware person. But after
playing Nikhil, I'm even more so.

Q: Has this been a life-changing experience?

A: It has been a humbling experience. From playing such an unorthodox
character, to managing the moods of my cast and crew, the budget - my
director and I had to keep the spirits up throughout.

I was lucky to have a supportive unit. They saw how active I was on
the sets - arranging vehicles, meals, ensuring everything was in place
and giving wake-up calls - I learnt about people management.

Q: Did you prepare yourself to play this hugely unconventional character?

A: Since Nikhil is a swimmer I caught up with my swimming. I used to
swim back home in Srinagar. But I had to do some brushing up.

Swimming in Goa during monsoons was dicey. But, once I had taken the
plunge to make this risky film, the choppy waters seemed relatively
easy.

I also 

[Goanet]No US visas available till July

2005-03-29 Thread Edward Verdes
No US visas available till July
   By: Kashif Khusro
   March 30, 2005

Your exciting summer holiday to the US just got postponed by three months.
The US consulate in Mumbai has nearly 65,000 tourist visa applications
pending with them.

This means that the soonest you will get a call for the mandatory personal
interview is in early July.

A spokesman from the US Consulate admitted that there was a huge backlog of
applications.

“There is a massive rush to go to the US at this time. We are already a
month-and-a-half behind schedule, so there will naturally be a delay in
granting personal interviews.”

He added, “In fact, yesterday someone asked for a tourist visa in May, but
the personal interview date was not available before June.”

Read full text at:  http://web.mid-day.com/news/city/2005/march/106473.htm

Forwarded By Eddie Verdes






[Goanet]Bhurgeancheo Konkani Kovita: KALLINGACHI XIR

2005-03-29 Thread Goa's Pride
Bhurgeancheo Konkani Kovita: 
 
Kallingachi  Xir
  
 
   Tambddi tambddi xir
   Kallingachi xir
   Kallingachi xir tonddant
   Udok haddoita

Kallingachi xir motint
Ullas vaddoita
Kallingachi xir ghorant
Sontos choddoita

   Kallingachi xir vaddeant
   Band ghoddoita
   Kallingachi xir dukam
   Pusun Uddoita.
 
Kovita boroupi:  Ancy Paladka
http://www.konkanifoundation.com/ancy/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/5571 
   

{Heo bhurgeancheo kovita kaim ruchik follancher
attapleoleo asat. Him follam Munglurant ani Goeant
chodd promonant roitat.  These children's poems are
based on delicious fruits.  These fruits are widely
grown in Mangalore and Goa.   
http://www.goa-world.com/goa/konkani/ }


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[Goanet]INC Goa back stabbing comes to the fore

2005-03-29 Thread godfrey gonsalves
The Indian National Congress in Goa has still to come
to grips with the ground reality if they are to rule
the State in the near future.  Having been out of
power since October 2000 for well over 4 years and
three months the veteran MLAs of the Party should have
realised to maintain not a SEMBLANCE OF UNITY - either
by show of hands or being photographed as
brothers/sister in arms but by Unity wedded to the
ideology of the oldest political party in India.

Having given ex CM Manohar Parrikar a decent burial
atleast for the moment on 2nd February 2005 the first
trouble started when Mr Jeetendra Deshprabhu missed
the ministerial seat. He immediately retaliated and
demanded his pound of flesh (though justifiedly for he
had the maximum pressnotes against Parrikar regime
whether they had merit or otherwise is academic).

Then came the unfortunate Presidents rule which showed
the INC in bad taste the High Command did not
understand the ground realities home and poor Mr
Pratapsing Raoji Rane who was just enjoying the CM's
throne for the 5th term --- actually this crown fell
on his lap owing to the TINA factor (there is no
alternative) with more leaders among the 15 elected
members then followers -- every body wants the CM
post)

Then came another mixed opportunity the Zilla Parishad
elections where the first past the post is the victor
-- never mind the fact that in triangular or more
contests their  cummulative votes polled far exceeded
the winning candidates votes.  The INC claimed the
ground swell was in their favour but ironically shied
away from dissolution and fresh elections to the
Legislative Assembly.

Now came the shocking volte face and a grim reminder
to the High Command that the INC in Goa is back at its
old game --- too many leaders all stabbing behind the
back.

Last moment saw the man responsible for the Tsunami
that swept the over 4 year old BJP led government
getting his spouse a Panch of the VP Taleigao not only
creating a record of sorts of getting elected to ZP
unopposed but also being elected unopposed to the
North Goa Zilla Panchayat, after Mr Atanasio (Babush )
Monserrate played his trump card at last moment ---
"its either Jennifer or I quit the INC" and the magic
did work . Mr Rajendra Gawade elected unopposed as
Vice Chairperson.

But the shocking part came today when the Alemaos
(brothers the MP   and MLA ) official choice Joe Dias
whose candidtature for the South Goa ZP Chairperson
was trounced by Curtorim ZP member Mr Reginald
Lourenco filing his nomination contesting and getting
elected this morning for the post of Chairperson of
the South Goa ZP while Ms Veena Cardozo of Velim
deafeating Savita Kushali Velip of Fatorpa
was elected Vice Chairperson.

The North Goa Chairperson seat and the South Vice
Chairperson seat is reserved for women.

This is a clear instance of Mr Luizinho Faleiro the
blue eyed boy and Man Friday of Madam Sonia Gandhi to
spite the Alemao's tall claim of being responsible for
the re-vival of the INC hopes in Goa.

 The message is loud and clear even assuming the INC
wins the five seats for which bye elections to the
Assembly constituencies are held with enough of
infighting development will suffer in Goa.

Therefore with todays development many voters who this
writer contacted approved of dissolution of Assembly
forthwith and called for fresh elections with a rider
all the seasoned MLAs should be denied a ticket and
young blood inducted --- a la Kamraj Plan --- where
the then late Chief Minister Mr Kamraj adopted the
strategy of senior politicians concentrating on party
organisational build up leaving the legislature to
their minions.  After all the Party is above
individuals and the Party policies alone can guide the
elected representatives.

Meanwhile the semblance of United Legislative Party
consisting of INC NCP MGP and Independent seems to be
given a decent burial--- for the NCP lone MLA Dr
Wilfred Anthony De Souza has admitted that the ULP has
no purpose of existence when the Assembly is under
suspended animation and State under Presidents Rule.
The reason is that he is keen on seeing that NCP
contests the Benaulim seat with Francisco Mickey
Pacheco as the candidate in the event a bye election
is held.  The UGDP has also staked its claim for seats
it has contested in June 2002 and the MGP which has
been partially revived from comatose has also
threatened to contest in its strongholds viz Cumbarjua
against the INC candidate Mr Pandurang Madkaikar.

The BJP members are therefore having the last laugh
obviously for their rise to power has been only due to
the then MGP Executive Committee allowing its "lion"
to be swallowed by the lotus and subsequently the
infighting of the INC increasing its numbers and
ultimate rule in the state since October 2000.

With the BJP celebrating on 6th April their Silver
Jubilee -25 years since formation with the L K Advani
and Atal Behari Vajpayee at the helm of affairs (old
Jan Sanghis( of which the present BJP has been carve

Re: [Goanet]Re: perks

2005-03-29 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The issue was about *the civilians paying for the
> military through
> payment of taxes* which you had mentioned earlier. 
> Im afraid that
> your payment of some minor local state taxes has got
> nothing to do
> with the upkeep of the military. If you have also
> contribited to Goa
> charities, Bravo!, but that has nothing to do with
> this issue.
>  I take strong objection to your linkage of *perks*
> to the alleged
> *cats whiskers attitude* of the military.  It is a
> loose canonball
> designed to disparage the Armed forces, with no
> basis whatsoever. 
> Furthermore, you have not answered the question, and
> identified what
> are the perks in the first place.  I suspect that
> you have no direct
> interaction with the Indian Armed forces, and are
> therefore illsuited
> to make any comment about the attitudes of our men
> in uniform.
> You have also made some disparaging comments about
> Admiral Mehta, 
> knowing fully well that you cannot receive a
> rebuttal from him.
> regards, Gilbert Menezes

Well, let me put it this way.  Years ago, when I was
in Bombay, I won't mention names, but I was witness to
an Army bloke collecting of bags of rice from an Army
depot - rice that was top-quality, and subsidised
substantially. 

Then when I was in the Brazilian Navy, we used to get
duty-free liquor, cigarettes and top cuts of beef from
Argentina (from Uruguay during the Anglo-Argentine
war).  Now don't tell me such things don't occur in
the Indian Navy.

My comments were to deduce a possible reason why the
Naval blokes think they're the best, not to bleat
about the "perks".  So please don't make an issue out
of it.

Now allow me to quote a news article by Sandesh
Prabhudesai on 5Oct2002, entitled: "Navy downgrades
civilians?", on the aftermath of the tragic accident
at Dabolim. 

Quote:
However, it is a coincidence that the Vasco police on
Thursday arrested a security guard posted by the navy
at INS Hansa for wrongfully restraining locals from
passing through their area, in spite of the high court
passing orders to allow them free access.

The local fishermen of Bimbvel, a beach adjacent to
INS Hansa, have been allegedly harassed by the navy
over a decade now as the whole residential naval
colony has been cordoned off, allowing no passage for
the fishermen to go to their hutments on the beach.

"The harassment continues in spite of all the courts,
from the executive magistrate to the high court,
instructing them to allow us free access and maintain
a register. But they insist on issuing us passes as if
we are strangers. We have been staying here much
before the naval base came up", states Damaciano
Dourado, the local fisherman.

However, according to Cdr Roy, it is Dourado who has
been harassing the navy with court cases. He fully
justifies the action of issuing passes, stating that
mere maintaining register will not solve the problem.
He also discloses that the navy is now planning to
acquire the area where the fishermen are living, from
national security point of view.

Dourado however alleges that the naval authorities
have already privatised the beach, to have their
picnics and outings. They even beat up the local
civilians who try to go to the public beach and whisk
them away, he adds.
Unquote.

A curious question arises from this news item: is
Dabolim a training school, a defence establishment or
a R&R place?

Regarding the Admiral - I have only reported what
Admiral Mehta said in 1996. You can read all about it
in http://goacom.com/news/news96/sep/dabolim.html.

Quote:
"The ownership of the airfield is not negotiable," he
told a group of representatives of the tourism
industry whom he recently addressed at a face to face
meet organised by the Goa Chamber of Commerce and
Industry. 

...

But Admiral Mehta who was well prepared to handle any
provocation and criticism that the naval presence had
been hampering tourist charter operations to this
State, took the wind out of the sails of the tourism
lobby, sources said. All procedures were followed and
compensation was paid for the land acquired for the
naval air station, Admiral Mehta said. Quoting a lease
agreement signed between the ministry of defence and
the civil aviation department, he pointed out that the
use of the airfield for civil aviation purposes was
subject to the condition that it would in no way
interfere with the functioning of the Navy. 
Unquote.

In the above, it appears he was enforcing his
authority on the civilians, does it not? In one place
he talks about ownership, then in another, about a
lease agreement.  A lessee is not an owner.  What do
you think these two conflicting statements, coming
from such a highly-placed individual, imply? 

Now let's come to Dec 2003. Eduardo Faleiro put a
question in "List of Questions for written answers": 
What is the status of the ownership of Goa's Dabolim
Airport?  If there was a lease, the Goa Govt ought to
have known about it and Mr. Faleiro 

[Goanet]]Re: de REAL Faux Nooj courtesy Mario Gouveia

2005-03-29 Thread jose colaco
From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




JC response:

My dear Mario Gouveia,

First of all, I wish to thank you profusely for not being abusive in the 
above response to me. Thank You Sir. You are most kind to me.

Secondly, I do not know ANY AIDS-infected drug users on Goanet, so unless 
they speak up, I will accept your word for it.

Thirdly, and I will speak up (with permission) for those on Goanet and other 
Goan d-lists  who are neither AIDS-infected nor intravenous drug users :

This is the response: PLEASE DO NOT LIE to us, We are intelligent enough. 
You could say anything you wish to us without TELLING US a LIE.


Is that fair, Mr. Gouveia? I know that LIES are a means to an END.these 
days ..but that is only meant for those ignoramus who support the 
vicious Rt. Wing Parties like the BJP.

Not for us



Now having said that, I take leave from you and will do the Gabe.

I will invite you (Mario) to have the final word on LIES, read your 
response.and sit in my little corner eating my Nepali Oranges or is 
it Apples?! (;-)


Go Ahead Mario Make your own day!


jc


PS: Gabriel de Figueiredo's DABOLIM ani TAIP (Goa's ONLY Airline) is on The 
Goan Forum Website

Please visit http://www.colaco.net

Please look in the column which says NEW


PS2: I shall not pursue this any more, pointless really when the contra 
party doesn't know what they are on about! - Gabe Menezes.

PS3: Does this guy have no shame at all? What makes him behave in this 
manner? - Santosh Helekar



goanet@goanet.org

2005-03-29 Thread jose colaco
From: gilbert menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote addressing Gabriel de 
Figueiredo said thus:

< you have not answered the question, and identified what are the perks in 
the first place.>


Ah! Gabriel.there you are ...Ducking Questions.

BUT Look Who Is Talking


Herr Gilberto who posted thus: 

but then DUCKED the question (like the ones before) i.e.

Would you say that the prices in the "canteen" are the same as the MRP in 
Goa? Let us take one item at a time.

How much TAX does the base hand over to Goa for the Hercules XXX Rum sold at 
Dabolim?

==

In any event, Gabriel de Figueiredo's article (in 5 parts) DABOLIM and TAIP 
has just been uploaded at the NEW section of The Goan Forum  
http://www.colaco.net

This is the FIRST DRAFT edition - sans photographs (They should be loaded 
late tomorrow evening)

Your comments are welcome.

I am sure that Gabriel himself will welcome them

good wishes

jc



[Goanet]Fwd: Re: O herald give us a living Water!

2005-03-29 Thread Stephen Fernandes
Hello Reader,
We are glad to here your interest . we will do our best to provide you  that
you need.
Regs
Herald.Goa

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: O herald give us a living Water!


> Dear My Goan Reader,
>  we are Quit disappointed and
> Shocked to see O herald is not update every day my
> self i always write to Herald team many time but the
> same story, today i feel to tell you all my Goan the
> story of o herald. in gulf Muscat we get less stock
> of newsPaper we are the lover of O herald newspaper
> from our Births, i dont understand why this happen why
> they cannot give us the living Water. why they are
> hurting their Goan. i think after Rajan Narayan left o
> herald came down there is no strong news like Before.
> i beg to the owner of o Herald to take this matter and
> give us living water for your blood Goans. we also
> demand for  one section of tiatr on website of O
> herald also cassette & VCD,DVD release and Profiles of
> goan konkani artist.
> we trust in God this matter will come true for our
> Blood Goans.
>
> yours Fellow Goan
>
> stephen fernandes
> Muscat/Divar



[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - March 30, 2005!

2005-03-29 Thread domnic fernandes
“Mogache bhaxek orth sangpeachi goroz nam.”
(The language of love needs no interpreter.)
Moi-mogan,
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RE: [Goanet]Konkani dictionary

2005-03-29 Thread Cip Fernandes
I believe there is a book store in Mapuca called "Other India Bookstore".
However, I do not know its location.  I believe that the shop is run by "Goa
Foundation" - Mr Claude Alvares and others.  Their email address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and their phone no. 2263306

On 25th March I have placed an order for 7 books by email.  However, as I
did NOT get even an acknowledgement I sent them a REMINDER on 28 March.
Till now there is neither an acknowledgement nor a reply.  Unfortunately, it
appears that "Other India Bookstore" is CLOSED DOWN.

By any chance, if I hear from them after 7 days then I will post on the
Goanet.

Cip Fernandes
UK


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Mariano
Sent: 29 March 2005 12:47
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Konkani dictionary
Importance: High


Sir, will someone help me in telling if there is any good dictionary
available in goa from konkani (written roman script)  to english. I am
interested in possessing one but it should cover maximum like available
in other languages eg hindi, french etc
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
mario




[Goanet]Viva Goa, Jai Hind, bow to justice at last!

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=033044

Francis, Mandrekar and Tanavade chargesheeted for Mapusa vandalism

NT Staff Reporter

Panaji March 29: The deputy inspector-general of police, Mr Muktesh
Chander today disclosed that the police have chargesheeted former law
minister, Mr Francis D'Souza; former agriculture minister, Mr Dayanand
Mandrekar and the Tivim MLA, Mr Sadanand Shet Tanavade in the Mapusa
vandalism case.

Addressing a press conference at the police headquarters in the city
this evening, Mr Chander said the accused involved in the vandalism of
Hotel Mandarin, Mapusa, have been chargesheeted on February 28, this
year.

On July 6, 2004, Hotel Mandarin had become the target of ire when the
hotel board, flower pots, window-panes and other valuables were
damaged allegedly by workers of the Bharatiya Janata Party.

On the delay in investigating the Mandarin vandalism, the DIG stated
that evidence gathering is a time-consuming process. If the police are
not armed with sufficient evidence then the case falls flat in court,
and the police are blamed for it, he observed.

On the vandalism of building plaques at Mala in the city, he said
nobody has came forward or produced negatives of the photographs
presented to the police. He said the case is now stands closed as they
could not identify the accused.

Comment: utt re Goenkar; time and time again, you let the whole state
down!  At the same time one cannot lay blame; you could be castigated
for life and suffer the consequences, this is the what Goa/India is
all about! Modus operandi.
-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



[Goanet]India's rights record poor; US

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/mar/29us.htm

 
India's rights record poor: US

T V Parasuram in Washington | March 29, 2005 09:50 IST

India's human rights enforcement record has been poor and needs
improvement despite being a vibrant democracy with strong
constitutional protections, the United States said in a report.

The State Department on Monday, however, said the new UPA government
at the Centre has started addressing rights concerns.

While lauding the Centre for "rewriting school text books" and
"addressing the aftermath of the Gujarat riots", the report reiterated
its concern over the situation in the state.

"Following its electoral victory in May, the government began to
address a number of human rights concerns that have arisen in recent
years. For example, it moved quickly to rewrite school textbooks, in
order to stress the contributions of the Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist and
Christian minority communities," it said.

However, it said, the rewriting of the textbooks has not been
completed, and alleged that the Gujarat government has not recalled
its old textbooks or announced plans for their replacement.

"The government also began to address the aftermath of the 2002
Gujarat riots," it said and noted that the Supreme Court had ordered
local courts to reopen over 2,000 cases connected with the post-Godhra
riots.

But by the end of last year, "the report on the number of cases that
should be reopened had not been submitted to the Supreme Court, and
only three cases related to the Gujarat rioting had completed trial in
the lower level courts," it charged.

The report claimed that human rights organisations and religious
groups remained concerned about allegations of witness intimidation by
local leaders in Gujarat.
-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



[Goanet]Outside the group?

2005-03-29 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Was just reading this on goanvoice.org.uk:
UK: Census 2001: Inter-ethnic Marriages
21 Mar: National Statistics. Excerpt: People from south Asian backgrounds 
were the least likely of the minority ethnic groups to marry outside the 
group. Just 6% of Indians, 4% of Pakistanis and 3% of Bangladeshis married 
a non-Asian spouse. ENDQUOTE

Is the implication that any marriage among Asians is "within the group"? 
Statistics probably hide more issues than they reveal; and how one asks 
the question would influence the resultant answer.

The figure would come down to 0% if we had to consider all those who 
married "human beings from planet earth".

Would a Punjabi marrying a Gujarati be considered to be marrying "outside 
the group"? Likewise, what about, say, a Goan-East Indian marriage? It 
depends who does the defining, what assumptions we make, and how the 
'insider' and 'outsider' boundaries keep changing over time.

... and we have just been discussing caste. Not to speak of religion, etc.
Of course, these are not terribly important issues. It's got more to do 
with how we perceive them. My view is that Goa has been, and will be, a 
melting pot of different cultures and people. FN




Re: [Goanet]3 Nepal scholars barred from Goa meet

2005-03-29 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mario replies:
> >.. Anyone who arrives in the US and
> claims refugee status has their claims investigated
while they stay in the country.  I'd say that was
pretty accomodating.  However, post 9/11, certain
people are scrutinised more closely, for obvious
reasons.  We are still at war with Al Qaeda in case
you've forgotten.
> 
> In a previous post Mario states about the
> USA...
> 
> It is a known fact, and a subject of much debate
> within the US after 9/11, that the US is more lax in
> allowing people entry and allows more foreigners to
> abuse it and its privileges than any other country.
> 
> Mario doesn't know whether he is coming or going ?
> is the USA more lax or what after 9/11 please make
up your mind.
> 
Mario replies:
Gabe, it is good that you have decided to discontinue
trying to malign the US Immigration authorities,
because you don't seem to be able to comprehend that
all of the above apply.  The US was VERY lax before
9/11.  The US is less lax after 9/11, and the US more
closely scrutinizes applicants from certain countries.

The statement above that referred to "more lax" was in
comparison with other countries, not "more lax" after
9/11, which would be absurd.



[Goanet]Once a Decade, SFX.

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=36123

Once a Decade 

In an extraordinary outpouring of faith and devotion, pilgrims from
all across India, and even beyond, flocked to the little town of Goa
to venerate the remains of St. Francis Xavier.

Anto Akkara 

Feb 2005 (CWR) - More than 2.5 million pilgrims from all across India
and abroad had filed past the remains of St. Francis Xavier when the
16th decennial exposition of the 452-year-old body of the great saint
concluded on January 2 at the Bom Jesus Basilica in Goa, a former
colony on the west coast of India.

Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao of Goa led the solemn ceremony closing
the 43-day exposition of the mortal remains of the saint who died in
1552. When it was over, the glass casket containing his body was
returned to its regular place at the side altar of the Bom Jesus
Cathedral. Several Indian bishops, hundreds of priests, and thousands
of lay Catholics attended the closing ceremony, as the body of St.
Francis Xavier, still preserved after more than 400 years, was brought
back to the Bom Jesus cathedral in a solemn procession from the Se
cathedral, just across the road, where it had been exposed for public
viewing and veneration since November 21.

"This is really amazing. We really want to have a look at this,"
Sakuntala Podar, a Hindu, told CWR while patiently waiting in the
queue along with thousands in the blazing sun for a glimpse of the
incorrupt body of St. Francis Xavier, known to Catholics as the
Apostle of the East. In fact Sakuntala and her husband had decided to
take time from their vacation in Goa to visit the Se cathedral in the
final hours of the exposition.

Like the Hindu couple, thousands of pilgrims had lined up patiently
for hours to file past the remains of the saint, day after day, from 6
in the morning until 7 in the evening, during the six weeks of public
exposition. Many of the pilgrims came to Old Goa—a bit more than 20
miles from Panaji, the capital of Goa, on the coast of the Arabian
Sea—after reading media reports about the rush of pilgrims, including
Hindus and Muslims, to the popular shrine.

AN IMMEDIATE RUSH 

It all began on November 21, with another solemn Mass and procession:
this one starting at the Bom Jesus basilica and crossing the street to
the Se cathedral. This more spacious building was chosen primarily
because it could accommodate the large number of pilgrims organizers
expected for the event. But Se cathedral is the oldest cathedral in
Goa, the former Portuguese colony that became part of India in 1962;
as such it is a national monument, under the care of the Archeological
Survey of India.

Beginning with the opening day of the exposition, the cathedral saw a
great rush of pilgrims. Airline flights into Goa were booked to
capacity; train and bus services were stretched to their limits.
Parishes from cities like New Delhi and Calcutta, over 1,000 miles
from Goa, arranged group trips, led by their pastors. Many of the
visitors stayed in Goa to tour other churches and Christian monuments
in the state.

This exposition was the largest such event ever organized by the
Church in Goa. The number of pilgrims shot up by nearly one-third over
the 1.9-million figure attending the most recent exposition of the
saint's remains in 1994. The number of visitors during the six-week
exposition easily exceeded the total population of the state; Goa is
home to 1.4 million people (of whom roughly one-third are Catholic).
To welcome this huge influx of the faithful, the Goa archdiocese
worked with the state government, making special arrangements to keep
visitors as comfortable as possible. Thousands of pilgrims camped out
overnight near the grounds of the cathedral, relying on local
organizers to provide low-cost accommodations as they broke up their
long cross-country trips to the exposition.

The number of pilgrims may have surprised organizers, but the people
of Goa were delighted to learn how many others, in India and even
neighboring countries, shared their reverence for St. Francis Xavier.
Archbishop Ferrao explained:

Most of the Goans, irrespective of their religion, have great faith in
St. Francis Xavier. They believe that he can intercede for them in all
their problems and they come in great faith to ask for his
intercession in their various needs. That is why he is universally
known here as the Gõycho Saib: the Lord of Goa.

Explaining the significance of the exposition for the spiritual life
of the Church in Goa, the archbishop said: "Every exposition of his
sacred relics becomes, in reality, an occasion for the deepening of
the faith of Christians as well as of the followers of other faiths.
It fosters considerably the spiritual renewal in the whole diocese."

THE INCORRUPT BODY 

Born in Spain in 1506, Jesuit Father Francis Xavier reached Goa in
1541 while the region was under Portuguese control. After baptizing
thousands, he left for east Asia in 1549 and returned to India in
1551. During his secon

[Goanet]Goa; India evades debate on Article 356

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.keralanext.com/news/index.asp?id=166848&pg=1

State council meeting evades debate on Article 356
 3 Hour,23 minutes Ago


India News, New Delhi, March 29 (IANS) A meeting of the standing
committee of the Inter State Council Tuesday evaded discussions on a
constitutional provision under which the central government can impose
federal rule in states.

The tenth meeting of the committee was expected to discuss the
Sarkaria Commission's proposals on centre-state relations but a
discussion on Article 356 of the constitution was excluded.

"The issue (Article 356) was not discussed," Home Minister Shivraj
Patil said after the meeting attended by central ministers and the
chief ministers of Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Jammu and Kashmir,
Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh.

The meeting had been called following a controversy over the central
government's role in political developments in Goa and Jharkhand last
month.

Patil, however, said all political parties and the government were
clear that Article 356, which provides powers to the central
government to dismiss a state government in the wake of a
constitutional breakdown, should continue.

"No party is of the view that it should be scrapped. But everyone
agrees it should be used sparingly," Patil said.

He said the Inter State Council's recommendations for incorporating
safeguards against misuse of the central government's powers were not
discussed.

The Supreme Court had provided certain safeguards to avoid the misuse
of Article 356, saying an elected assembly should be kept in suspended
animation until both houses of parliament approved its dismissal.

The court also said a test on the floor of the house should be the
last word for deciding the majority of a state government.

Patil said a "broad consensus" emerged at the meeting on a blueprint
for action on good governance, disaster management and implementing
the decisions taken by the Inter State Council.

"They were all for improving the legislative, executive and judicial
activities for introducing modern technologies in governance and to
reduce the time and cost in producing results," he said.
Patil clarified the decisions at the meetings were not laws. "But the
decisions will be discussed at a meeting of chief ministers convened
by the prime minister on April 15," he said.

During the discussions, most states agreed that the government should
bear part of the expenses of elections.

"Funds for this purpose should be provided by the central government
as the financial condition of the state governments is not sound. The
procedure to bear such expenditure should be laid down," said Uttar
Pradesh Chief Minister Mulayam Singh Yadav.

Yadav called for a national debate over a proposal that candidates be
declared successful only if they polled over 50 percent of the votes.
He said such a system would not be practical in a multi-party system.

Indo-Asian News Service 

-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



[Goanet]Comment on Gilbert's post to Mario

2005-03-29 Thread cornel
Hi Gilbert,
You conclude by saying that you are not a sociologist but a student of it. 
Well said Gilbert! You state what was absolutely obvious all along that, you 
have much to learn as a student of a subject in which some have been 
immersed, at an advanced level, for decades.

Your version of the research you may have undertaken, represents one aspect 
of 'knowledge' with which you may be happy. However, I submit that we are on 
contested  territory in the ongoing debate and you must admit that ours 
(Mario and self ) to whom you referred in your post, represent an 
alternative to your understanding of the situation.  We can agree to 
disagree surely, but for you to say that we don't look at 'your knowledge'
adequately, and then, only at "snippets" is highly questionable, surely too, 
if you do not provide testable (however loosely interpreted), evidence for 
what you say.

Much has been said about the historical reasons for the existence of caste 
in terms of religion and/or culture just as we are increasingly clear about 
Western historical/cultural origins of white
racism. However, such historical evidence does not justify, even for a 
moment,
the continuity of these evils. This point lies at the heart of what Mario, 
others, and I have been saying all along in this debate in the Catholic Goan 
scenario. Everything you have said, to date, is a wish to retain 
caste/casteism. Everything Mario and I have said, quite independently, is 
that we want to see it eliminated. Full stop.
Regards,
Cornel




[Goanet]Scrabble, Goa, Verna...

2005-03-29 Thread Frederick Noronha
Forwarded Message--

From: "jackyshoban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: All India Open Scrabble Tournament at GOA

Hello Everyone,

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organising the 2nd "All India Open Scrabble Tournament" on 23rd and 
24th April 2005. For futher details and online registration please 
logon to our website www.agnelpolytechnic.org/scrabble.

 regards, Jacky Fernandes (Coordinator)



[Goanet]INC - Goa backstabbing comes to fore

2005-03-29 Thread godfrey gonsalves
The Indian National Congress in Goa has still to come
to grips with the ground reality if they are to rule
the State in the near future.  Having been out of
power since October 2000 for well over 4 years and
three months the veteran MLAs of the Party should have
realised to maintain not a SEMBLANCE OF UNITY - either
by show of hands or being photographed as
brothers/sister in arms but by Unity wedded to the
ideology of the oldest political party in India.

Having given ex CM Manohar Parrikar a decent burial
atleast for the moment on 2nd February 2005 the first
trouble started when Mr Jeetendra Deshprabhu missed
the ministerial seat. He immediately retaliated and
demanded his pound of flesh (though justifiedly for he
had the maximum pressnotes against Parrikar regime
whether they had merit or otherwise is academic).

Then came the unfortunate Presidents rule which showed
the INC in bad taste the High Command did not
understand the ground realities home and poor Mr
Pratapsing Raoji Rane who was just enjoying the CM's
throne for the 5th term --- actually this crown fell
on his lap owing to the TINA factor (there is no
alternative) with more leaders among the 15 elected
members then followers -- every body wants the CM
post)

Then came another mixed opportunity the Zilla Parishad
elections where the first past the post is the victor
-- never mind the fact that in triangular or more
contests their  cummulative votes polled far exceeded
the winning candidates votes.  The INC claimed the
ground swell was in their favour but ironically shied
away from dissolution and fresh elections to the
Legislative Assembly.

Now came the shocking volte face and a grim reminder
to the High Command that the INC in Goa is back at its
old game --- too many leaders all stabbing behind the
back.

Last moment saw the man responsible for the Tsunami
that swept the over 4 year old BJP led government
getting his spouse a Panch of the VP Taleigao not only
creating a record of sorts of getting elected to ZP
unopposed but also being elected unopposed to the
North Goa Zilla Panchayat, after Mr Atanasio (Babush )
Monserrate played his trump card at last moment ---
"its either Jennifer or I quit the INC" and the magic
did work . Mr Rajendra Gawade elected unopposed as
Vice Chairperson.

But the shocking part came today when the Alemaos
(brothers the MP   and MLA ) official choice Joe Dias
whose candidtature for the South Goa ZP Chairperson
was trounced by Curtorim ZP member Mr Reginald
Lourenco filing his nomination contesting and getting
elected this morning for the post of Chairperson of
the South Goa ZP while Savita Kushali Velip of Fatorpa
was elected Vice Chairperson.

The North Goa Chairperson seat and the South Vice
Chairperson seat is reserved for women.

 The message is loud and clear even assuming the INC
wins the five seats for which bye elections to the
Assembly constituencies are held with enough of
infighting development will suffer in Goa.

Therefore with todays development many voters who this
writer contacted approved of dissolution of Assembly
forthwith and called for fresh elections with a rider
all the seasoned MLAs should be denied a ticket and
young blood inducted --- a la Kamraj Plan --- where
the then late Chief Minister Mr Kamraj adopted the
strategy of senior politicians concentrating on party
organisational build up leaving the legislature to
their minions.  After all the Party is above
individuals and the Party policies alone can guide the
elected representatives.

Meanwhile the semblance of United Legislative Party
consisting of INC NCP MGP and Independent seems to be
given a decent burial--- for the NCP lone MLA Dr
Wilfred Anthony De Souza has admitted that the ULP has
no purpose of existence when the Assembly is under
suspended animation and State under Presidents Rule.
The reason is that he is keen on seeing that NCP
contests the Benaulim seat with Francisco Mickey
Pacheco as the candidate in the event a bye election
is held.  The UGDP has also staked its claim for seats
it has contested in June 2002 and the MGP which has
been partially revived from comatose has also
threatened to contest in its strongholds viz Cumbarjua
against the INC candidate Mr Pandurang Madkaikar.

The BJP members are therefore having the last laugh
obviously for their rise to power has been only due to
the then MGP Executive Committee allowing its "lion"
to be swallowed by the lotus and subsequently the
infighting of the INC increasing its numbers and
ultimate rule in the state since October 2000.

With the BJP celebrating on 6th April their Silver
Jubilee -25 years since formation with the L K Advani
and Atal Behari Vajpayee at the helm of affairs (old
Jan Sanghis( of which the present BJP has been carved
)like Balraj Mahadhok have been unceremoniously cast
into limbo) they can only rest assured that come fresh
elections they can easily win 25 seats in the State
Assembly majority in the Novas Conquistas and atleast
six in the Velhas Con

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Mar 29, 2005 * ZP slots, Goa's environment

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WHAT'S IN TODAY'S ISSUE: The tussle for zilla parishad posts (even if these
bodies have been quite crippled into inactivity), fears over a possible
tsunami, rural handicrafts, news from Singapore and even a bread recipe with
a Goan link added to it. From the world of environmental news, concern about
trees being feld, water woes and battling with mountains of garbage. All
usual features. Obituaries, sports, the weather. Check it out!

BABUSH'S WIFE IS NORTH GOA ZP CANDIDATE FOR TOP SLOT: 
Contrary to developments in the last few days, Jennifer
Monserrate -- wife of Babush Monserrate -- emerged as
the consensus candidate among the Congress-supported
members, for the post of chairperson ('adhyaksha') of
the North Goa Zilla Panchayat. (Herald)
Gomantak Times says: Babush rules Congress, wife
Jennifer is North Goa ZP chief. Internal infighting
pitchforks Sardinha's man into South Goa battle. (GT)

o Goa sounds alert along cost, following major quake off Indonesia. (H)
o Steps taken to improve public grievance redressal system in Goa. (H)
o BJP accused of 'self elation' at the cost of basic amenities (H)
o Congress blames BJP for acute water shortage in Goa. (GT)ks
o St Xavier's College Mapusa opens a help-line for students during 
  their exam period. Ring 2262 356  from 9 am to 4 pm or 
  9850 458891 after 4 pm. (GT)
o No looking back at the Sky Bus project, says Delhi minister. (H)
o Panjim's special house-tax recovery drive yields Rs 12.5 million. (H)
o SSC Board exams begin from March 30, 2005. 17,882 students to appear (H)
o Goa setting up Second State Finance Commission. Ironically, the
  state is yet to put into practice many recommendations of the first (H)
o Mariano Fernandes' car parked along FL Gomes Rd,Vasco was set ablaze.(H)
o Perpet Lobo and Chandra Malwankar file nominations for Mormugao
  municipality council's vice chairperson's post. (H)
o Doctors to hold SAARC cancer conference, April 8-10 at Goa Marriott.
  Senior doctors of Goa admission at Rs 1800 only, seats limited. 5644940
o You saw the IFFI flood-lights, now see the floods. Incomplete works,
  clogged drains are a noose on the neck of Panaji. (GT)

MICKKY, NCP AND POLITICS IN BENAULIM: NCP to field Mickky Pacheco in
Benaulim, says Willy. Adds that United Legislative Party (ULP) is
non-existance. Mickky Pacheco joined the NCP two weeks ago in Delhi
after he was 'cold-shouldered' by the Congress leaders here. (H)

MINING AND BICHOLIM: Caught unawares in the battle between
the enviromentalists and the mining lords, the rural folk
from villages of Bicholim taluka -- who earn their livelihood
from mining -- have little knowledge of what their fate is
going to be in the near future. (Andrew Pereira and Sameer
Umarye in the Herald)

o CITIZENS FIGHT BACK: Fed up with the PWD officials turning a blind
  eye to the pathetic condition of the Shirvoi-Malkarnem road, residents
  have now put up a road blockade and planted a banana sapling right in
  the middle of the road, in the hope that at least this would attract
  the authority's attention. (H)

o UNSOLVABLE WASTE, AS GOA GOES ON A (PLASTICS AND OTHER) CONSUMPTION SPREE:
  Corporation of the City of Panjim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
  http://www.panjim.org -- has issued tenders solid waste. Some 50 metric
  tonnes per day of municipal solid waste collected from various areas
  is presently transported to the municipal disposal site. It is
  now planned to set up a processing facility "at this site itself where 
  the required area is available for setting up of the plant". 

GROUND-WATER IN RURAL Goa is contaminated, says study.
A recent report of the Public Works Department on water
and sanitation scenario in the state has revealed that
the ground-water in rural areas as well as the coastal
belt is highly contaminated with bacteria and metallic
elements like cadmium. The report attributed the water
contamination to the apathy of

Re: [Goanet]Goans and Caste

2005-03-29 Thread Mario Goveia
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can you tell us what were the names of the Goan
> Jesuits involved in writing the Indian constitution?

Mario replies:
Here is an excerpt from the article: "When India's
founding Constituent Assembly debated making
concessions for Outcaste-Christians, Jerome D'Souza,
S.J., representing the Christians, rejected them,
claiming there is no caste in Christianity."  He
sounds just like you, Gilbert.

Clearly in the late 40's Jerome D'Souza must have
known that the caste system was rampant among Goans. 
Obviously he had his eyes and ears closed.

Gilbert writes:
> When you return to the USA, you need to read our
> book 'Amchi Khobor - Our News - Inside Goa'. It cost
> only $5:00. You are confusing between Goan religion
> and cultural practices. But please don't feel bad,
> defensive or insulted.

Mario replies:
Unfortunately, unlike you, I have too much personal
experience with the caste system for any such article
to affect my opinion.  I think it is you who are
confused.  For those on the wrong side of the caste
system, what difference does it make whethet religion
or culture is in play?
> 
Gilbert writes: 
> A lot of what you and Cornel are describing are a
> lack of that knowledge or just selected snippets of
> it. And for the same reason, Hindus likley have not
> even bothered to dialogue the subject with you guys
> in spite of your attacks on caste.
> 
> For the Goan future, my thoughtful comment is: One
> can change the system if and when we have another
> better substitute (for Goan culture and
> support-network) which is why a society exists.
> Again since you insists on things being repeated, I
> am not endorsing caste.

Mario replies:
As usual, I have no idea what you are rambling on
about "lack of knowledge" and "support systems" that
need to be replaced.  The few Hindus who participate
on Goanet, like Santosh Helekar and Rahdhakrishnan
Nair, are even more against the caste system than I
am, which is saying a lot.  Radha once wished he could
change his name.

You keep repeating that you don't endorse the caste
system, but you continue to make every possible excuse
for it and it's continuance. For example, your amazing
comment, "One can change the system if and when we
have another better substitute (for Goan culture and
support-network) which is why a society exists."  I
disagree completely, and consider the notion that we
need to wait to change a system of discrimination for
any reason to be bizarre to say the least.  Goan
culture and society would be far better off without an
organized system of discrimination in place.



[Goanet]Thought for Today

2005-03-29 Thread Cip Fernandes
  
 
Sweet Words  
  
A bitter tongue makes life bitter, a sweet tongue makes life better.  
  
 
 
 



[Goanet]India; Worlds tallest building?

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/mar/29tall.htm

World's tallest building to come up near Delhi?

March 29, 2005 17:37 IST
Last Updated: March 29, 2005 19:03 IST

The world's tallest 135-storey building may soon come up in Noida
satellite township on the outskirts of Delhi if all goes according to
plan.

The skyscraper, to be built as part of the ambitious Noida City Centre
in Uttar Pradesh, will be higher than the 508 metre-high Taipei 101 in
the Taiwanese capital, currently the tallest building in the world.

The design concept for the building, presented by Mumbai-based
architect Hafeez Contractor, has been accepted by the Noida Authority,
its chairman and chief executive officer Deo Dutt Sharma said on
Tuesday.

"The proposal is still at a very preliminary stage and aspects like
the cost and related activities have also to be worked out," he said.

The authority has set up a six-member committee to study the viability
of the project and also visit Kuala Lumpur where the world's second
tallest building, Petronas Twin Towers, is located, Noida Authority
officials said.

The proposal would then be forwarded to the Uttar Pradesh state
government for approval, they said.

Hafeez Contractor has proposed a number of other architectural marvels
for the City Centre bordering Delhi, including buildings that resemble
the Himalayas.

-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



Re: [Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter

2005-03-29 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
I do endorse your struggle against casteism. Caste is there, to some extent,
ingrained in our society. It is difficult to eradicate it totally from our
minds and hearts. But I know that Christian message has been a leaven for
the traansformation of our society. Casteism, understood as lack of respect
for persons of so-called "lower caste", is a "sin" (whether in the
religious/theological or secular sense), just as racism is. Today casteist
mentality is not so strong as it was in my childhood. Yet, I remember well,
our Catholic families would not allow us to speak of caste and dwell in it.
We had friends from all "types" of families, even among Hindu boys and
girls. Let us be united and fight against casteism and communalism...
Ivo da C.Souza


- Original Message -
From: cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; renebarreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:29 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter


> Hi Rene,
> I am genuinely puzzled by your seeming uncertainty about my absolute
disgust
> of caste among some Catholic Goans. Believe you me Rene, it is hard work
> often presenting thoughtful/lengthy  material on Goanet, instead of
> one-liners, on any theme, especially, when I really do not need to be on
it
> at all for any kudos reasons.
>
> I am genuinly ashamed of the absolute uncritical internalisation of the
evil
> of caste among some Catholic Goans and will do all in my power to attack
it,
> including, pursuing it with the Vatican which is wholly against this form
of
> racism, as well as raising it in the wider media. I am fully aware that
this
> will not make me popular at all among some Catholic Goans but it is a
cause
> for which I am prepared to nail my mast. As to Easter, it is indeed a
> Christian celebration, and not a Hindu one (as far as I know), in which
> caste is expected to play a part. Yes, as you ask, I do know the meaning
of
> Easter very very well but this begs the question, whether you really do, i
n
> terms of reconciling Christian Easter with Hindu caste belief/practice
among
> some Catholic Goans!
>
> I am aware of your great fondness for many things Goan, and for this
reason,
> would not be too willing  to be hard on you on this or any other issue
Rene.
> However, please be reassured that my motives are absolutely genuine
> regarding anti-casteism which is akin to anti-racism, however uphill the
> struggle.
> Regards,
> Cornel
>
>
>




Re: [Goanet]ALEXYZ.VERSE

2005-03-29 Thread rene barreto

> This is not in my teachings or in the Bible he
> sadly said...


> 
> And those who believe in caste are not
> Christians he declared !!


> 
> Then with disgust ascended into heaven feeling
> like an outcaste !!!
> 
> CheersAlexyz >[EMAIL PROTECTED]<



   Good to read your post Alexyz on Goanet , I do
hope that you make your posts more regular - to
brighten our lives. 


rene 










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[Goanet]Genuine meaning of Easter

2005-03-29 Thread cornel
Hi Rene,
I am genuinely puzzled by your seeming uncertainty about my absolute disgust 
of caste among some Catholic Goans. Believe you me Rene, it is hard work 
often presenting thoughtful/lengthy  material on Goanet, instead of 
one-liners, on any theme, especially, when I really do not need to be on it 
at all for any kudos reasons.

I am genuinly ashamed of the absolute uncritical internalisation of the evil 
of caste among some Catholic Goans and will do all in my power to attack it, 
including, pursuing it with the Vatican which is wholly against this form of 
racism, as well as raising it in the wider media. I am fully aware that this 
will not make me popular at all among some Catholic Goans but it is a cause 
for which I am prepared to nail my mast. As to Easter, it is indeed a 
Christian celebration, and not a Hindu one (as far as I know), in which 
caste is expected to play a part. Yes, as you ask, I do know the meaning of 
Easter very very well but this begs the question, whether you really do, in 
terms of reconciling Christian Easter with Hindu caste belief/practice among 
some Catholic Goans!

I am aware of your great fondness for many things Goan, and for this reason, 
would not be too willing  to be hard on you on this or any other issue Rene. 
However, please be reassured that my motives are absolutely genuine 
regarding anti-casteism which is akin to anti-racism, however uphill the 
struggle.
Regards,
Cornel 




Re: [Goanet]3 Nepal scholars barred from Goa meet

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:12:45 -0800 (PST), Mario Goveia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > USA Certainly has the right to prevent any one they
> wish, from not entering their territory. I accept that
> totally.
> 
> Mario replies:
> Thank you.  However, I don't think the snide and
> patronising remarks by the authors whose articles you
> were posting were as tolerant as you are..

>.. Anyone who arrives in the US and claims refugee status
> has their claims investigated while they stay in the
> country.  I'd say that was pretty accomodating.
> However, post 9/11, certain people are scrutinised
> more closely, for obvious reasons.  We are still at
> war with Al Qaeda in case you've forgotten.

In a previous post Mario states about the USA...

It is a known fact, and a subject of much debate
within the US after 9/11, that the US is more lax in
allowing people entry and allows more foreigners to
abuse it and its privileges than any other country.

Mario doesn't know whether he is coming or going ? is the USA more lax
or what after 9/11 please make up your mind.

I shall not pursue this any more, pointless really when the contra
party doesn't know what they are on about!


-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



[Goanet]Re: REAL Faux Nooj

2005-03-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mario replies:
> Hey, Jose. The AIDS-infected drug users on Goanet
> must be gratified to see your staunch attack on the
> proposition that they may leave infected needles in
> public places, backed up by a scientific research
> opinion that this presents no risk.
>

Does this guy have no shame at all? What makes him
behave in this manner? He seems to derive some kind of
sick pleasure from repeatedly launching insults at
other people. Does his children and grand children
know about this sadistic habit of his? Are they proud
of him for displaying such shameful behavior?

Cheers,

Santosh



[Goanet]Re: REAL Faux Nooj

2005-03-29 Thread Mario Goveia
--- jose colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is amcho Mariobab going to abuse me now just like he
abused Santoshbab ani George Pinto?
> 
Mario replies:
Hey, Jose.  The AIDS-infected drug users on Goanet
must be gratified to see your staunch attack on the
proposition that they may leave infected needles in
public places, backed up by a scientific research
opinion that this presents no risk.

The rest of us are left to wonder why you and the
usual suspects that you are intellectually in tune
with were so bent out of shape at the simple
common-sense suggestion that people watch their
behinds when they sit in a public place.

Your peculiar insinuation that there is no need to be
careful in a public place is the REAL faux nooj.



[Goanet]Faux Nooj reports that 3 Nepali Apples have become Oranges. Full Moon Blamed

2005-03-29 Thread jose colaco
Mario Gouveia pointedly noted:
1.Fred has now given us an example of 3 Nepalese scholars barred from a 
meeting in India, including one who had been an Ambassador to India.  
Security personnel stopped them at the border on orders from "higher 
authorities".

And then "brilliantly" asked Gabe :
2. Hey, Gabe, since you seem to have been trying to make some sort of point 
with those articles you posted, WHAT say you or your anti-American 
columnists now?

==
Gabe Menezes resolutely countered back :
3. 

==
On Sun Mar 27, 2005  11:05 am Mario Goveia had alerted us thus:
4. < Yes, the FULL MOON is truly at it's best>

Mogal Gabebab,
What does it matter if The Nepalis were stopped by their OWN "chaps". They 
were not allowed to enter India, were they not?

And what does it matter IF Nepali citizens do NOT require a visa to enter 
India.

As long as the Full Moon shines, Oranges = Apples.
Das my view of faux Nooj
Please check the "maufacture date"  BEFORE you read
jc
Is amcho Mariobab going to abuse me now just like he abused Santoshbab ani 
George Pinto?

Let's wait ani see.
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[Goanet]Kofi Annan should go home

2005-03-29 Thread Mario Goveia
An article titled, "Depressed Annan close to quitting
over UN scandals" appears in the Sunday Times Online: 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1543360,00.html

An excerpt reads:
KOFI ANNAN, the United Nations secretary-general, is
said to be struggling with depression and considering
his future. Colleagues have reported concerns about
Annan ahead of an official report this week that will
examine his son Kojo’s connection to the controversial
Iraqi oil for food scheme. 

Depending on the findings of the report, by a team led
by the former US Federal Reserve chairman Paul
Volcker, Annan may have to choose between the
secretary-generalship and loyalty to his son. 
 
American congressional critics of the UN are already
pressing him to resign over the mismanagement of the
oil for food programme, and even his supporters have
been dismayed by the scandals on his watch, including
the sexual abuse of children by UN peacekeepers in
Congo.

Mario adds: 
The key sentence above is, "...even his supporters
have been dismayed by the scandals on his watch,...".

How about the massacres of hundreds of thousands of
innocents in Rwanda, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Sudan,
Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo?  Where were Kofi and the
UN in trying to stop the killing of innocent
civilians?  How about the millions dying of HIV/AIDS
in Africa and the rest of the world, the only pandemic
in history whether the victims go looking for the
disease, and the UN has failed to rally the rest of
the world?  

When is the world going to say, KOFI, ENOUGH.  FOR
GOD'S SAKE, GO HOME.  GO AND HELP YOUR OWN CONTINENT
WHICH IS SLOWLY DYING!






Re: [Goanet]Dalits and Jesuits

2005-03-29 Thread cornel
Colleagues,
Many thanks for all the info provided re my enquiry on obtaining the Jesuit 
article. Such info should also be of interest to others on Goanet.
In turn, following my continuing interest in caste among the Christians, I 
can recommend, for those interested, the following excellent well referenced 
book:
Massey James (1995) Dalits in India: Religion As A Source of Bondage or 
Liberation with Special Reference To Christians. New Delhi, Manohar Press.
Regards,
Cornel
- Original Message - 
From: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]Dalits and Jesuits Wimbledon.
America, the Catholic weekly magazine published by Jesuits since 1909 is 
at http://www.americamagazine.org/ Subscription to the both the  print and 
web versions is $48 p.a. For the web version only the sub. Is $24 p.a. 
Single articles cost $1.50 but you can also buy access to the archives for 
a set period of time -  for example, $4.95 for 24 hours.
The article summaries are free and the one in question is cited as:
Title: 'Dalit' Means Broken
BY: John Francis Izzo.
Source: America. New York: Feb 14, 2005.Vol. 192, Iss. 5;  pg. 11, 4 pgs
Subjects:   Religious discrimination,  Catholic churches,  Caste
ISSN/ISBN:   00027049
Text Word Count   2284
Document URL:
Abstract (Document Summary)
Recent Hindu-Muslim riots and attacks on Christians are instigated by 
affluent, elite, high-caste Hindus who are trying to expel threats to the 
Brahminic caste system, the Hindu ideology of superiority and inferiority. 
The need for Catholic bishops and priests to solve caste discrimination 
and end prejudice against poor Catholic Dalit villagers is emphasized.
An alternative to buying it would be to refer to it in any large Catholic 
or National Library.  In London it is available at Heythrop College 
(Kensington, W8) and at the British Library (St Pancras NW1)
Eddie Fernandes
London
===
- Original Message - 
From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In my initial post on the subject I had mentioned that
the article "'Dalit' Means Broken" was published in
the Jesuit magazine, America, in the February 14, 2005
issue, and that it was only available on the Internet
to paying subscribers.
The web site is www.americamagazine.org

--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is the only thing I could find; nothing about
caste issues. :-
http://www.jesuitmissions.org.uk/wimbledoncollege/
In many parts of India today the persecution and
oppression of the Dalits, better known as the
Untouchables, is still continuing.




[Goanet]Konkani dictionary

2005-03-29 Thread Mariano
Sir, will someone help me in telling if there is any good dictionary
available in goa from konkani (written roman script)  to english. I am
interested in possessing one but it should cover maximum like available
in other languages eg hindi, french etc
Thanks in anticipation.
Regards
mario



[Goanet]Re: perks

2005-03-29 Thread gilbert menezes
The issue was about *the civilians paying for the military through
payment of taxes* which you had mentioned earlier.  Im afraid that
your payment of some minor local state taxes has got nothing to do
with the upkeep of the military. If you have also contribited to Goa
charities, Bravo!, but that has nothing to do with this issue.
 I take strong objection to your linkage of *perks* to the alleged
*cats whiskers attitude* of the military.  It is a loose canonball
designed to disparage the Armed forces, with no basis whatsoever. 
Furthermore, you have not answered the question, and identified what
are the perks in the first place.  I suspect that you have no direct
interaction with the Indian Armed forces, and are therefore illsuited
to make any comment about the attitudes of our men in uniform.
You have also made some disparaging comments about Admiral Mehta, 
knowing fully well that you cannot receive a rebuttal from him.
regards, Gilbert Menezes


> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:56:20 +1000 (EST)
> From: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re:perks
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 

> >
> > > Message: 9
> > > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 01:16:44 +1100 (EST)
> > > From: Gabriel de Figueiredo
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [Goanet]MI, MI, those empty pots!
> > > To: goanet@goanet.org
> > > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> >
> > >
> > > Coming back to the orginal "perks" that Philip
> > > mentioned that upset Gilbert.  Largely, I agree
> > with
> > > Gilbert that the military deserve them, after all
> > they
> > > are expected to lay down their lives if need be.
> > >
> > > But these perks often go to their heads, and then
> > the
> > > military have this attitude that they're the
> > "cat's
> > > whiskers" and the civilians are nothing, not
> > realising
> > > that it is because of the civilians and because
> > the
> > > civilians pay them through their taxes that they
> > are
> > > there.  This is the same attitude that the Navy
> > has
> > > regarding Dabolim, what with one Admiral Mehta
> > once
> > > bluffing his way at a conference quoting a lease
> > > agreement signed between the Indian MoD and the
> > Civil
> > > Aviation Dept, to which the Goan populace,
> > especially
> > > the Govt, was not privy to.
> 
> Please read the above carefully, and see if I made
> *any* bleeding-heart comments.  Its all about the
> Navy's attitude - nil else.  Who Admiral Mehta is
> married to, is his private matter - please don't bring
> it into the discussion.  Events of 1961/1962 do have
> an influence why the Navy is holding on to Dabolim.
> 
> P.S. Contrary to what you state, I do pay tax in Goa,
> though not income-tax.  And I do contribute to Goan
> charities whenever possible, which is not peanuts
> either.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gabriel de Figueiredo.
> Melbourne -Australia.



[Goanet]Goans and Caste

2005-03-29 Thread gilbertlaw
Mario, 
You jump to conclusion before you do your reading and understanding. But, good 
for you that you are articulate. So one can see your thinking with its 
distortions and all. Many may find that (DISTORTIONS) very annoying.

Can you tell us what were the names of the Goan Jesuits involved in writing the 
Indian constitution? And where could we see their writings? From the little 
that was posted on the net, the recent  'Jesuit article' was not related to Goa 
or to Goan caste. So it is an unrelated topic that you are trying to confuse 
yourself and us.:=)

When you return to the USA, you need to read our book 'Amchi Khobor - Our News 
- Inside Goa'. It cost only $5:00. You are confusing between Goan religion and 
cultural practices. But please don't feel bad, defensive or insulted. 

Many European nuns and priests in the 17-18 century had the same problem with 
Catholic Goans. IMHO, that was one major reason they introduced the Inquisition 
to Goa to make sure that Goans behaved like good Catholics and discarded their 
Hindu cultural roots and practices. Perhaps they were a bit like you and Cornel 
and others - in their failure to understand that the two (Religion and Culture/ 
Traditions) are not the same! 

But Goans of the day while changing the religion stuck to their original roots 
and maintained their society / identity untill the 20th century. Today and in 
the future, in Goa and in the Diaspora, I am not sure! IMHO only time will tell 
if we maintain our identity. My initial reading: It is unlikely for a whole 
variety of reasons, including we are so stubbornly confused. Aum soglem zano 
attitude.

Before you and other jump on me again, I am only recounting my study of our 
past as we researched for the book. I am not endorsing or opposing history. And 
for those wanting to know why and what the caste system served should read the 
above mentioned book. And if the WGD and Goan social organizations permitted 
Goans to educate other Goans about ourselves, at Goan celebrations and other 
events, we may be able to enlighten our next generation of our societal values 
and practices. (Rene Baretto are you reading? We want to do more than write! 
Can you help?)

A lot of what you and Cornel are describing are a lack of that knowledge or 
just selected snippets of it. And for the same reason, Hindus likley have not 
even bothered to dialogue the subject with you guys in spite of your attacks on 
caste.

For the Goan future, my thoughtful comment is: One can change the system if and 
when we have another better substitute (for Goan culture and support-network) 
which is why a society exists. Again since you insists on things being 
repeated, I am not endorsing caste.  IMHO, I am endorsing a support network in 
Goa and more so in the the Diaspora, something like what I gather exists in 
Kuwait. 

I am not a sociologist, but just a student of it. 
Regards, Gilbert


Mario Goveia 
Please get the article and see what it says.  The Jesuits who were involved in 
denying that there were castes among Christians in India when the Indian
Constitution was written were Goans.

But, you are right.  Only the Goans were wise enough to give up the system.  
There is no caste system among Catholic Goans, and your research will confirm 
what goes on.  We have just been imagining all the horrors we see and hear 
about, including the ones I detailed to you, complete with names.




Re: [Goanet]Special of 'Goencho Avaz' Reply

2005-03-29 Thread Stephen Fernandes
Dear All,
  Let we all Congratulations to Fausto who
keep the Voice higher of Goencho Avaz and heard that
it will have copy in English too let show that we are
really goan to read this paper.

love Stephen Muscat
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[Goanet]COMMENT: Goa -- green, greying or gone?

2005-03-29 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Goa: Green, greying or gone?
By Frederick Noronha
Environmentalism in Goa is a generation old. Way back, in the mid-seventies,
when this label was still to be adequately understood, fishermen and their
landed local allies (including the MLA now in the news, Matanhy Saldanha)
were battling coastal pollution by Goa's first fertilizer plant.
In the 'eighties, the spurt of luxury hotels and charter flights saw
tourists being greeted with cow-dung. Drastic this may have been, but it
made the point. From then till now, Goan environmentalism has walked a long,
if often controversy-hit, road.
Issues like the Konkan Railway were given a religious, rather communal,
twist. Desperate campaigners were caught between getting the Church involved
and derailing the issue, or seeing it not picking up steam at all.
Often, there was the media and the 'development' lobby (read
contractor-bureaucrat-politician nexus) seizing the opportunity thrown up in
a state where accidents of history and geography still largely shape our
religious affiliations, and, consequently, our attitudes towards life.
In recent times, environmentalists have been accused of not doing enough, of
ignoring vital issues, or, worse still, of selling out to the very interests
they claim to fight. Both extremes -- deification or baseless insinuation --
are misplaced. But, in truth, most of those making such allegations have not
done anything themselves to take Goa a step closer to a greener environment.
Outgoing chief minister Manohar Parrikar's, leveraging of the Press to tar
reputations, is a good example. This was done even while his government
failed on issues ranging from the River Princess, to mountains of garbage,
the decimation of Goa's groundwater, and the plastic menace brought on by
a clear case of unbridled over-consumption.
Yet, in environmental terms, Goa is an amazing place. There are so many
stories just waiting to be told. Never mind that, for the most part, our
media pretends these don't exist.
Maybe the clash is because this small region has seen drastic changes over
the past generation. (Anthropologist and Goaologist Dr Robert S Newman
argues that Goa has recently been undergoing the most severe changes ever,
except perhaps during the times of the Inquisition.)
Hazardous industrialisation, resource-hungry mega tourism expansion, speedy
urbanisation, a water-crisis in a high rainfall state, pressures on wildlife
(peacocks enter homes near industrial estates), the destruction of fields
and livelihoods... all these and more are a reality to the people of the
state.
Mining has been made to vanish through the use of media framing (selection,
emphasis, exclusion, interpretation and presentation of facts). Villagers
have faced issues like bauxite mining and holiday-village or golf course
plans in Pernem, saline intrusion into coastal areas, the destruction of
sand-dunes (which Radharao Gracias fought against in his more
idealistic-days), destruction of wetlands and 'khazans', the devastation of
fish resources, aquaculture pollution, the loss of green zones in urban
areas, pollution generated by the lack of adequate public transportation.
This list is long and incomplete.
Slowly more voices are getting heard. Competitive pressures on the media is
opening some space. As stories emerge, it's becoming increasingly clear that
environmentalism isn't just a middle-class passion. On the contrary,
experience is repeatedly showing that the very same vote-banks whom
politicians claim to represent are facing the strongest squeeze when their
livehoods and sources of subsistence come under threat.
One generation later, Goa's biggest history is that a new army of young
blood has grown up to carry the flag of concern. It's amazing to see how
many youngsters care deeply for green issues, and how 'mainstreamised' the
fringe concerns of yesteryears have become.
Yet, you still need to weed out the fakes and the lip-service specialists
from long-term, sustainable, and un-purchasable commitment.
Many of the earlier generation are tired, if not demoralised. They seem to
be missing the point: building people is more important than fire-fighting.
Talking about the environmentalism of the yesteryears, we do need to shift
away from one of its legacies: that of placing only nature on the altar, and
forgetting to factor in men (and women) who have been living within that
very same environment for centuries. Environmentalism can seem elitest and
out-of-sync if it overlooks the aspirations of the deprived ... without, of
course, using this as an excuse for the rape of the place.
Environmentalism in Goa has a lot to still do, in terms of going beyond just
fire-fighting and project-mode actions. We need approaches that work, and
build change on a large scale. It's essential to getting a wider grasp on
the issues that matter, and find ways of coping with them.
Can't we, for instance, wake up to the fact that no amount of recycling is
going to battle the plastic bottle-and-garbage

[Goanet]Portuguese descendants..Burghers in Ceylon.

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4381811.stm

Tsunami unites Sri Lanka Burghers
By Ethirajan Anbarasan
BBC News, Batticaloa

The tsunami that devastated Sri Lanka in December has had the effect
of bringing together the country's Burgher community.

Sri Lanka tsunami damage
Burgher communities in the east were hit hard by the waves
The Burghers are descendants of the Dutch and Portuguese who colonised
Sri Lanka in the 16th Century.

Before the tsunami they preferred to remain in their own enclaves -
hardly making any contacts with their brethren in others parts of Sri
Lanka and abroad.

But the situation has changed since December.

The tsunami was a terrible disaster for the nearly 4,000 Burghers
living in the eastern town of Batticaloa.

More than 150 people perished and many others lost their properties
and livelihood, mainly in and around the Dutch Bar area.

Overseas help

Three months on, Burghers in Batticaloa are now slowly trying to
rebuild their lives.


Sunny Ockersz
"Every day, we were getting 30 to 40 e-mails from Burghers living
abroad offering help
Sunny Ockersz
Community leader
Soon after the tsunami struck, news spread that the Burgher community
on the east coast was one of the worst affected in Sri Lanka.

Burghers in Colombo immediately rushed essential supplies to help
victims in Batticaloa.

It was the first time in decades that the two groups came in contact
and the sudden solidarity is slowly evolving into a bond.

Soon, more help started to come in from those who had migrated years
ago to countries like Australia, Canada and the UK.

"Every day, we were getting 30 to 40 e-mails from Burghers living
abroad offering help. Suddenly, we feel that we are a bigger
community," says Sunny Ockersz, president of the Burgher union in
Batticaloa.

Social history

Earlier, the community was divided as Burghers in Batticaloa, Dutch
Burghers and the "affluent" English-speaking Burghers in Colombo.


The Burgher community has strong Portuguese roots
The Batticaloa Burghers for centuries were mostly manual labourers -
carpenters, mechanics and masons - and were at the bottom of the
Burgher social ladder.

"There was hardly any contact with each other. Burghers in Batticaloa
were looked down on by others in the community," says Maxi Rozairo,
president of the Burgher association in Colombo.

Community members say the emphasis was on making a decent living
rather than trying to find out about their roots.

Schools or universities in Sri Lanka do not offer any courses on the
history of the community.

When the Portuguese arrived in Sri Lanka in 1505 they brought soldiers
and other supporting staff.

Those who settled down got married to local women and a new ethnic
group was born.

Soon, the Dutch and the British followed. The descendants of the union
between the colonisers and the locals came to be known as Burghers.

Portuguese roots

Despite the arrival of the Dutch and the British, most Burghers
preferred to retain their Portuguese cultural roots.

Burghers at a community dance
Community leaders hope the newfound closeness will stay
The interaction also led to the evolution of a new language, Sri Lanka
Portuguese Creole which was the lingua franca for more than three
centuries.

"For centuries we have been following Portuguese customs and
traditions. Some elders still speak Creole Portuguese. Portuguese
music and dance are common in our get-togethers," says Mr Ockersz.

But the community also thrived under British rule as most Burghers
were educated and fluent in English.

Burgher engineers, doctors and other professionals played a key role
in managing Sri Lankan railways.

But the situation changed after Sri Lanka's independence in 1948.

The new government gave prominence to the Sinhala language.

As the Burghers did not speak that, there were few job opportunities
for them and many of them went abroad.

"The mass migration split families. Due to the subsequent
socio-political changes Burghers were slowly marginalised in Sri
Lanka," says Mr Rozairo.

New bond

Today only about 34,000 Burghers are left in the Sri Lanka - down from
a high of 100,000.

Before the tsunami, the community had planned to celebrate the 500th
anniversary of the Portuguese arrival in Sri Lanka. For now, the plans
have been shelved.

Nevertheless, membership of Burgher associations in Sri Lanka has gone
up in recent months.

Community leaders want to capitalise on the new found camaraderie.
They say it is time to bring the scattered community together.

"No doubt the tsunami caused havoc. But it has brought a new identity
for the Burghers," says Mr Rozairo.

-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



Re: [Goanet]Special of 'Goencho Avaz'

2005-03-29 Thread rene barreto


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launch of the Special Issue of 'Goencho Avaz'.

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[Goanet]Goanet Reader -- Acid parties, Anjuna and the alt tourists...(Joseph Zuzarte)

2005-03-29 Thread Goanet Reader
ACID PARTIES, ANJUNA AND THE ALT TOURISTS -- MIDWIVES TO GOA'S TOURISM
Looking back at history from North Goa, one of the last hippy havens
By Joseph Zuzarte
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If it were not for the Acid Parties in Anjuna and the hippies who started
them, Goa might never have become the tourist haven that it is today. After
the Portuguese were booted out in 1961, came the hippies in 1968. The term
'hippie', of course, is a very ambiguous one; even today all White
foreigners are called 'hippies' in Anjuna. But back then, hippies meant
White American tourists. America had been rocked by Ken Kesey and his 'Acid
Tests' in the early mid-1960's. L.S.D. (a legal drug then) was the wonder
drug of the 1950's and 1960's, and the U.S. government was conducting tests
on the effects of LSD on people. It was felt by many researchers that LSD
could produce the divine spark of creativity. The most famous of these
'advocates' was the literary writer Aldous Huxley who famously wrote about a
mescalin experience in Doors of Perception.
Kesey was the author of 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest', and with the
royalty money, decided to conduct his own experiments in acid. He summed up
what he called the Neon Renaissance in an early 1960's interview: "It's a
need to find a new way to look at the world, an attempt to locate a better
reality, now that the old reality is riddled with radioactive poison. I
think a lot of people are working in a lot of different ways to locate this
reality -- Ornette Coleman in in jazz, Ann Halprin in dance, the New Wave in
movies, Lenny Bruce in comedy, Wally Hendrix in art, Heller, Burroughs,
Rechy and Gunter Grass in writing, an those thousands of others whose names
would be meaningless either because they haven't made it yet, or aren't
working in a medium that has an it to make. But these people are trying to
find out what is happening, why and what can be done with it."
Kesey decided to bring together the best creative talents in California
together, gave them LSD, and told them to do whatever they wanted. The
driving slogan was 'Further'. This meant that people would mill about
freely, walk up to microphones and talk or sing if they felt like it. Those
gatherings were known as 'Acid Tests' and were probably the first Acid
Parties in the world.
Soon psychedelia had exploded into a vast movement, and is today considered
the biggest cultural and creative upheaval of the last century. The music
for the parties was provided by a band of musicians led by Jerry Garcia,
which later became the Grateful Dead, the most famous of all hippie bands.
Their drummer was Mickey Hart who was taking tabla lessons under Ustad Ala
Rakha Khan and others in California. Thus it was that Indian strands were
woven into the hippie tapestry and many of the hippies decided to come down
to India -- besides music and spirituality, it was also a storehouse of some
of the best cannabis, marijuana and opium. Also, the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
had also happened to the Beatles.
On their peregrinations through India, the hippies discovered Goa, a
region with a overtly Catholic image, with great beaches and a
hospitable people. The hippies scattered around in various ashrams
and music gharanas all over India, would meet for Christmas in Goa.
Somehow Calangute and Anjuna were the chosen beaches. And, well,
their Christmas parties were just like the Acid Tests in California.
There was no electricity in Anjuna then, so an American called
Eight-Finger Eddie brought down a generator, speakers, amplifiers,
etc., and the first real Acid Party happened in Goa.
Goa has not been the same ever since. Besides which, the world has also
changed. If the Woodstock concert of 1969 was the height of the hippie dream
(remember love, peace, happiness?), the Altamount concert that same year was
its nadir and was the official end of the hippie revolution in the U.S.
Because of the crack-down on the hippies there, they moved out all over the
world. North Goa, in way, is one of the last hippie havens.
Just like with the Anjuna Flea Market, the Acid Parties there have also gone
through many phases. In the late 1960's and the 1970's, they mostly happened
on Full Moon days; apart from the mystical aspects (Isis unveiled, and all
that), it was too dark to move around at night in the villages on non-Full
Moon days.
Since the early Full Moon parties were mostly gatherings of American and
other foreign musicians who were studying in various parts of India, they
were 'live' music parties. Sitars would jam with electric guitars; out would
come the tables and other instruments.
Goa was also a refuge from the vigorous discipline of Indian music
and spiritual gurus who did not like the foreigners taking drugs.
But the primary creative fuel -- as demonstrated in the Kesey Acid
Tests -- was LSD. Along with other drugs. So everybody would take
LSD -- or acid -- at t

[Goanet]Postage calculator

2005-03-29 Thread Cecil Pinto
If you are posting something from India to anywhere in the world you don't 
have to stand in line and enquire from some uninformed rude always-busy 
postal clerk about how much the postage will work out to. Just click on the 
link below and get the figure yourself. It's quite comprehensive and self 
explanatory.

The problem you will incur is when you have the correct figure and go to 
your local uninformed rude always-busy postal clerk, who doesn't know that 
Indian Postal Service has such comprehensive posting options, and he 
doesn't know quite how to do the calculations for your specific 
requirements himself!

http://www.indiapost.gov.in/PostageCalculator.html
Cecil Pinto New-You-Can-Use Service



[Goanet]Special of 'Goencho Avaz'

2005-03-29 Thread New Age Printing Press
Special Issue of 'Goencho Avaz' Hits the newstands

The Special issue of the Konkani-English Literary magazine 'Goencho Avaz' on
Goeantle Ani Goeam Bhaile Goenkar (Goans from Goa and Goan Diaspora) has hit
the newstands.
It has contributions from renowned Konkani writers Udai Bhembre, Prof. S M
Borges, ManohaRai Sardessai, Tomazinho Cardoso, Soter Barreto, John Gomes
Kokoy, Cursin Pinho etc. in the Konkani section while George Menezes and
Cecil Pinto has contributed to the English section.
This special issue published and edited by Fausto V. da Costa is dedicated
to the memory of Konkani writers & activists late Fr. Antonio Pereira S.J,
Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa and Felicio Cardoso. 'Goencho Avaz' was formerly
launched by the late Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa as a Konkani daily newspaper in
1989 and later published as a weekly and thereafter as a literary magazine
for the past 5 years.
 Priced at Rs. 5/- the issue is available at all  newspaper agents.








[Goanet]Dabolim vs Tambaram?

2005-03-29 Thread Philip Thomas
http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?slug=Tambaram+school+trains+f
light+instructors&id=70633

Tambaram school trains flight instructors
--
Jennifer

Tuesday, March 29, 2005 (Tambaram Air Base ):


The 118th course of flying instructors have just passed out of the Flying
Instructors School at Tambaram, near Chennai.

Thirty eight pilots passed out as qualified flying instructors, a grueling
six month training programme.

"We are trying to simulate the kind of abinitio training. But the learning
actually starts once they are out from this place and once they are actually
in station with an abinitio," says Group Capt A Ghosh, flight instructor.

Real challenge

Among them are flyers from the Army, Navy, Coast Guard and one each from Sri
Lanka and the United States. Until now these students have been operational
pilots.

Specially handpicked to be moulded into flying instructors, they will now
move into one of the** six different Flying Training Establishments.**

"It is a different thing which I have not done till now. So this is the
challenge for me - actual trial is when I see the guy I teach get airborne
safely and land back safely," says Sqdn Leader Mike Johnsingh, student.

Important role

**The pilots have spent 95 hours in the air on the Kiran Jet Trainers, the
Deepak Propeller trainers and the Chetak Helicopters.**

"I feel that I have actually learnt about a lot of things that I was not
even studying about prior in the US Air Force," says Capt Prospero A
Uybarreta, student.

This is the country's only Flight Instructors School and therefore fulfills
a very important role.

It is here that officers from the Defence Services and from Air Forces of
other countries come here to be taught how to be instructors and they will
in turn teach others.






[Goanet]India; Fuel from old tyres.

2005-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=74917&cat=India

Now fuel from waste rubber:-
Coimbatore | March 28, 2005 6:17:16 PM IST
 
A scientist from a university in Coimbatore has come up with a
research for extracting fuel from waste rubber through the process of
flash pyrolysis.

It is part of the project aimed at developing a process for getting
liquid fuel out of waste material.

The Ministry of Non Conventional Energy Resources of Government of
India is funding the project.

This process involves the use of agro based, industrial or municipal waste.

However, for their research, the scientists used spent tyres, the
material most readily available in large quantities in and near
Coimbatore.

"To start with we have taken waste tyres. In fact it is a problem in
many countries how to dispose it. In India we have made a survey. It
is available at the rate of two tonnes per day near Coimbatore. So we
have taken this material and subjecting it to a process called
Pyrolysis, which is nothing but heating at a high temperature in the
absence of air or oxygen. So during the process the organic material
present decomposes to Hydrocarbons," said Dr. B C Billai, Director,
Centre for Biomass energy, Karunya deemed university.

The tyres consist of three components namely the organic rubber, which
constitutes 70 percent of the tyre mass, the filler carbon black,
which accounts for 25 percent of the tyre and a number of additives,
which comprise the remaining five percent.

In the Flash Pyrolysis process, the granulated tyre is fed into a
fluidised bed, which is maintained at 500 degrees Centigrade. In the
absence of oxygen, the organic material undergoes the pyrolysis
process during, which a number of hydrocarbons are evolved. The light
hydrocarbons escape as gas whereas the majority of the heavy
hydrocarbons are condensed to form a liquid. The remaining char after
grinding would be very close to carbon black in its properties and
hence could be used as filler for various rubber based products.

Researchers say that about 60 to 65 percent of liquid fuel can be
realized through this process. The technological challenge in this
process lies in the optimisation of three process variables namely
temperature, particle size and residence time of the raw material, in
such a way that the liquid yield will be maximum.

Researchers are of the opinion that the resulting oil would be close
to furnace oil derived from petroleum and therefore could be used in
industry.

They further add that the process is highly energy efficient,
self-sustaining and economically viable. (ANI)
-- 
Cheers,

Gabe Menezes.
London, England



[Goanet]Memorandum to the Governor of Goa

2005-03-29 Thread goasuraj

March 29, 2005

To,
The Editor,
Herald/Gomantak Times/ Daily Gomantak/ Sunaprant/Goa
Toady/Goanet/Goagoans/Ixtt/Goa Messenger/Goan Observer/Tarun
Bharat/Pudhari/Navhind Times/Navprabha.

Sir,

Attached herewith please find a copy of the Memorandum handed over to the
Governor of Goa, when the Party's five member delegation met with the
Governor at Raj Bhavan on March 28, 2005.

Also please find herewith the Party's  announcement  for kind publication
and awareness of the people of Goa.

Thanking you,
for Goa Su-Raj Party.

Sd/-
(Floriano C. Lobo)
President/Spokesperson.



Press Note:

Goa Su-Raj Party is happy to announce that it will contest the forth-coming
bye-elections in the State in all the five constituencies. The process of
interviewing of the prospective candidates has begun.

Goa Su-Raj Party believes that the people of Goa will ultimately have to
make their choices either to send their representatives to the State
Assembly holding their neck-ropes  in their own hands, to chart a
non-deviating course for Goa's progress  or  ones who will be 'free birds'
to fly as they please, once elected.

The people of Goa must think of enriching their own lives, most importantly,
the future of their children for a change, rather than thinking of enriching
the bank balances and muscle power of their representatives.

END.

***
Our Reference: GSRP/MD/GOG/03/05.
March 28, 2005
To:
Mr. S C Jamir,
The Governor of Goa,
Raj Bhavan,
Dona Paula - Goa.
M E M O R A N D U M
The  Goa Su-Raj Party wishes to place before your Excellency some of the
problems besetting the Government administration in Goa for the past number
of years, and which unfortunately, instead of being corrected by the
successive Governments, have been left to fester, thus allowing the same to
take a strangle hold on the citizens of this State and their daily lives,
thereby increasing their unhappiness and the pervasive sense of helplessness
and frustration. This party believes that the imposition of Presidents rule,
though short in its duration, may yet be able not only to cure some of the
more glaring examples of the malaise affecting our State and will hopefully,
give a new direction to the performance in various departments of the
Government which have been allowed to be rudderless for more effective
manipulation by the erstwhile administrations.
The following points, though not exhaustive of the manifold requirements,
will still be able to satisfy the citizen to some extent, if tackled
seriously.
A.  Law and Order:
1.  The police force must act in an impartial manner whilst enforcing
the law. This will be possible only if the police are not subservient to the
powers that be, and are allowed to function without fear nor favour. At the
same time, it is necessary that strict discipline be maintained so that the
police force does not think that it is above the law.
2.  Police postings and promotions have to be scrupulously monitored so
that corruption within the police force is minimized, if not eradicated,
specially when it comes to so called 'lucrative postings' for which big
money is reported to flow between the inferior and the superior.
3.  The performance of the traffic police is pathetic to say the least.
Indiscipline on the roads is ninety per cent ascribable to the almost total
absence of police on the roads  and highways and at other times due to
incompetent performance. A system of checks and balances is to be enforced
immediately where each traffic policeperson on the road will give a daily
report of the type and number of traffic violations that he or she has
booked on a particular day. This would serve not only as a deterrent to the
innumerous traffic violations taking place daily on our roads, thereby
reducing the accident rate, but also give a strong message to the traffic
police that their actions are being monitored.
4.  It is noticed that many underage motorcyclists are on the roads with
impunity solely because, even though many times they are in school uniforms,
the police has not acted as it should.
5.  It has been noticed that the old Mandovi bridge is many times used
for two way traffic. Though on one side i.e. on the Panjim side, there is a
traffic sign board that it is a one way to go out of Panjim, on the other
side the sign board has been bent. Despite complaints to the Panjim police
by many citizens including members of this Party, nothing has been done and
not even a policeperson posted at either end of the bridge. In this manner,
the police department gives a clear message that traffic laws can be broken
with impunity.
6.  There is need for unannounced late night and early morning
patrolling not only on the highways, but also in the villages.
7.  The police should monitor all advertisements wherein jobs are being
offered abroad, as well as financial schemes offering high returns on
investment. Known places for drug dealing and peddling namely nightclubs and
so called night markets to be monitor

[Goanet]Poaching Problems Hit Aviation

2005-03-29 Thread Philip Thomas
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1064485,curpg-1.cms

Air Deccan sues Mallya for poaching
SUDIPTO DEY & G GANAPATHY SUBRAMANIAM

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ TUESDAY, MARCH 29, 2005 12:25:09 AM]


NEW DELHI: After the dogfight in the skies with fare wars , domestic
airlines are breaking new ground with a different battle - the hunt for
readymade talent





[Goanet]Tum, Tuje Bailek Bhietai? (Sot Uloi)

2005-03-29 Thread lino dourado
Mhojem sangnnem.

Hanv xat’ti fuloun konnakuch xapodam sangunk huxar
aslom. Ponn halinchea vorsamnim hanv bhivkutto zalam
ani ulovpak legun bhietam mhonn lokak ghomon ailam. 

Hanv zolman bhivkutto zaunk na, ponn kazar zalea
uprantuch bhivkutto zalam.

(Hi ghozal bhienuch, bailechea nodre add boroitam)

Sot Uloi...



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http://www.goa-world.net/poems/lino



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Re: [Goanet]3 Nepal scholars barred from Goa meet

2005-03-29 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> USA Certainly has the right to prevent any one they
wish, from not entering their territory. I accept that
totally.

Mario replies:
Thank you.  However, I don't think the snide and
patronising remarks by the authors whose articles you
were posting were as tolerant as you are.

Gabe writes:
What I don't accept, is your retort, that USA is one
of the most accommodative Countries in the World, on
this issue. Call it as it is, please.
> 
Mario replies:
Fair enough.  That's your opinion and you're entitled
to it.  But you could make the same criticism about
pretty much any country in the world.  I'm pretty sure
that there are 11 million illegal immigrants in
various stages of trying to let legal status in the US
who may disagree with you, not to mention tens of
thousands more each day.

Anyone who arrives in the US and claims refugee status
has their claims investigated while they stay in the
country.  I'd say that was pretty accomodating. 
However, post 9/11, certain people are scrutinised
more closely, for obvious reasons.  We are still at
war with Al Qaeda in case you've forgotten.






[Goanet]Re: A suggestion: The RENOVACAO has to undergo a RENEWAL/NOVSORNNI

2005-03-29 Thread Jose Colaco
Mogal Fernandobab,

May I take this opportunity to thank you for "making
it happen" with regard to the TSKK site. Thanks to
your initiative, TSKK is now linked to Goa World and
to TGF.

As I have said before, it would be good to get TSKK
linked to GoaCom, GoaMog and SuprGoa. The more the
better. You have already contacted Leao ani Tino, I am
sending this to amcho Fred Noronha. He is a fantastic
networker.

You have asked me to comment on your attached note to
the Arhcbishop. 

I avoided comment despite a number of requests. But
after the latest one I will attempt a response. 

You know that the little I know is the result of my 
Jesuit education.so, here it goes. 

Do forgive my critical approach to discussion  - those
who know me personally (including you) know that I am
different in person (;-).but please do not ask me
for comment - because you will get one.

So here goes the Ambott Tikk>

1. I am not interested in name changes. If I was, I
would probably have changed mine to Joseph Cohen. I
don't now what Regos would change them to  Regis
perhaps!

2. While Fernando do Rego advises the ArchBishop to
change the name of Renovacao to Renewal or whatever
that word "NOVSORNNI" means...because he thinks it is
"ridiculous" to have Matter in English and Name in
Portuguese".

I remain totally intrigued.  

Is this the same Fernando do Rego who writes to the
good ArchBishop in English but addresses him as
Arcebishop?

Just Asking (:-)

I submit that we should consider what is really a
priority for us as Catholics.

Should we expend our energies, funds and time on
"changing names and coats" like the chameleon, or
should we follow the lead of Christ in looking after
the Poor and Disadvantaged?

Should we Sit on the Fence and say nothing about
attrocities & wrongs, or should we stick out our neck
even if we are likely get crucified by others?

What do you think? 

There is one piece of advice I gave Goa Suraj wrt
politics. It is the same thing I will give the
Catholic Church wrt Catholicism.

Please do NOT expect Catholicism to prosper in Goa, as
long as you have church services and sermaos which
need a dictionary to comprehend. (I believe even
Manohar Parrikar remarked likewise recently at the
occasion of the re-release of Konkani publication)

In "imposing/introducing" this S-Konkani into the
service, the following has happened:

1. The older Goans stayed at home - after a period of
being lost in church

2. the younger Goans went to English services

3. the "hand over" of tradition from the Older and the
Younger did not take place

Sonot only will Catholicism suffer, but Konkani
will lose out to English.

And that is a pity.

BUT.I suppose we have to lose before we win, heh?

just my view

jose

PS:
If you have the opportunity, Please read Prof ALOK
RAI's  "HINDI Nationalism"

It is available at the Other Indian Book Store (OIBS)
in Mapuca

Hope our Konkani Mogis don't make the same mistake.







FERNANDO DO REGO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
Monday, March 28, 200518:43:45 

Respected Arcebishop, 

Before all, I renew my good wishes: may the Peace of
the Risen Jesus be with you in your apostolate as our
Sheperd.

>From Fr. Joaquim, I know that you have been having a
busy schedule and so, being so far, unable to reply to
the questions submitted to you by me for the “Crónica
das Fontainhas” in the “supergoa.com”.

Please do it when you have some time.You will like to
know that with the help of your brother, I have 
already taken some photos to illustrate it ,like the
Church  of Aldona and its Pia Baptismal where you ,  
your and my ancestors were baptized . 

With this letter, I wish to submit for your
appreciation, two suggestions regarding the organ  of
our Archidiocese.:

In the old times, it was the ‘Boletim Eclesiástico’,
and it was succeded by ‘RENOVACAO’.Along these years
it had Directors who today rest with the Lord: Fr.
Lucio Coutinho and Fr.Martinho Noronha.

Years later, it turned into a bulletin  in English,and
for reasons that I don’t know, the name continued the
same. It was even rather ridiculous: Portuguese
name…matter in English !!

Now the contents are  in  English and Concani  and
translated names have been added on the Cover.:”
Renewal / Novsornni “ 

My suggestions are the following: 

1.As the Bulletin is now in English and Concani, only
these two names should come on the cover.

2.Some weeks back, my  friend in Lisbon, Mr Jorge
Noronha asked me to send to him an article by fr.
Pratap Naik,s.j. that had come several months back.
Now it happens, that I don’t keep old issues. I don’t
sell them as ‘raddi” but offer to any charity
institutions.His  request indicates that articles. ,
etc. that come in the “Renovacao” must be preserved
for consultation for those in Goa and abroad and for
that the so! lution could be the following: 

The Bulletin must go online in the same way as the
“Examiner” or the “Observatore Romano.”or the
Bulletins of some of other Dioceses.Bot

RE: [Goanet]The Jesuit journal article on caste

2005-03-29 Thread doreen mendes
Hi:
I don't know who you are, but if you get a
copy of  the above  mentioned Jesuit article,
can you e-mail me a copy, if not by mail I'll pay for
it.  Even the reference will do.
Thanks
Doreen C. Mendes
From: "cornel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
To: 
CC: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet]The Jesuit journal article on caste
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:41:55 +0100
Hi Mario,
I have not been able to obtain the article on caste you informed us about.
Assuming you have a hard copy of the article, is there any chance you can
mail me a copy? I'll be more than happy to pay for the costs. 
Alternatively,
can it be sent to me electronically?

I am also sending this post to Eddie Fernandes (London) who might have
better access  to articles which are not easily available.
As you would expect, I really am very keen to read the article.
Thanks,
Cornel





[Goanet]FYI: An Opportunistic Plug

2005-03-29 Thread Philip Thomas
Here is a letter I sent to the editor of TOI. Will update re developments if
any. In the meantime pls feel free to comment on goanet. Thanks.



Let's go for BRA

The call for aviation reforms (TOI, March 28 editorial), in the context of a
marked upsurge in travel and tourism, is right on target. However, singling
out the admittedly high ATF prices as the culprit in the situation is
awfully myopic. Looming large over the civil aviation sector is the baneful
influence of the defence establishment. There are severe and perhaps
anachronistic military restrictions on our airports and air space. These
have to be systematically addressed and efficaciously dismantled if
significant progress has to be made with Indian aviation reform.

For several decades in the U.S. there has been a program called Base
Realignment And Closure (BRAC) whereby military and economic equilibrium is
sought to be re-established as times change. In India we may at least need
to embark on base re-alignment (BRA), especially of air bases, so that joint
civilian and military use of such costly facilities can be initiated. At
present the tendency is to evade conflict with the military by investing in
greenfield airports, a very costly knee jerk reaction, fraught with
corruption problems to boot.

A prime candidate for BRA is that of Dabolim Airport in Goa where the Navy
acts practically like a dog in the manger to restrict civilian flights when
the demand for travel and tourism is very high. No worthwhile military
reason is discernible in this adamant stance.  There is simply no forum
where airport operation issues can be thrashed out to the satisfaction of
military and civilian users. BRA is needed to put the military into the
proper frame of mind in an era when its security role has probably changed
radically and when economic issues need to be given much greater priority.

P. S. Thomas
Goa
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