[Goanet] Re: Priests Murder
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Thanks a lot Dominic, I do appreciate. To all: First one so far so good (I was pesimistic though) Don't know how many more I will receive but one thing I would like to make clear I would have written the same way on any other person be it a politician, film star etc. This is a dicussion forum any way. Every one is entitle to his/her opinion. However, if some one feels that I have hurt his/her religious sentiments etc i would say 'I am sorry'. Different people write differently-some are biased some are neutral. You all know me by now. This is it. And I can't change it. --- Dominic Fernandes wrote: Hi Joe , You have raised very important and pertinent questions . Lets hope they are all answered ! Another nagging question that comes to light , again is the question of celibacy for priests and nuns , i feel it should be done away with . regards Dominic [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/
[Goanet] Writers must be careful Murder Case of Priest.
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Dear Sir, I would like to request you to kindly post my below writing on the internet on goanews.com column. I remain truely goan at heart and thanking you for this opportunity and facility . Thank you Raul Carneiro Tel. 00965 6427764. This has reference to Mr. Godfrey J I Gonsalves comments My intention of writing this is to express my opinion and urge people to write the most appropriately specially in very sensitive cases, like the murder case of the priest as it affects the community at large. Let the Truth be Truth. let it come, but before it is systematically proven (of course sometimes truth is difficult to come out or is not proven) or known to be true, we must show restrain and not go to the extreme conclusions as some writers have gone to blame the priest. WE DONT KNOW YET THE FULL TRUTH OR FACTS. A shiver passed when we learnt that about 27 stabs were on the body of the priest and that he was suffocated to death. Thinking how much he must have suffered, how much helpless the priest must have felt on that ill-fated night sends more pain to the mind and heart. God bless the soul of the 'priest'. We pray to god for forgiveness and to show his mercy to Fr. Eusebio IF he failed anywhere, if there were any weakness on his part and god bless his soul for the services he rendered for the community. We have an obligation to pray for his soul, irrespective of the priest's behaviour and what may have been. We dont know the 'EXACT CAUSE' that triggered the 2 youth to go to such an extend of ending life of another being. is there any justifiable reason to do what Amit and Manish did ? even if the priest had made some mistakes, they could have reported to Bishop house . The crime of murdering the priest is unforgiving and unjustifiable. Imagine if all of us murder another person because that person did not keep his promise or because someone hurt us -- than we will find the strets full of dead bodies everyday and we ourselves maybe murdered and may not live to see even that. There are two things that we (friends and myself) find strange about the writing of Mr. Godfrey. 1. Why do you raise the question of lent season and priest giving food and alcohol to non-christians at parochial house ? Giving food, and even shelter to the 2 youths is a act of kindness. if the priest found someone in need of help, and volunteered to help is it a bad thing ?. we dont enquire or ask religion or caste to help someone in need. Of course we need the know more about the relationship the between the priest and the 2 youths. how long they knew each other, did they previously stayed overnight with the priest ? did the priest lend them money ? or did they lend money to the priest ? etc etc. We dont know if the priest offered alcohol to the youths as mentioned in the below article of Mr. Godfrey, or the youth brought the alcohol with them. Maybe the police will confirm correctly ? even if the priest had beer along with the youth irrespective of who brought it - I dont think it is a dreadful sin. why do you start thinking that it is not in line with christian habits ? WE ARE FORCED TO WONDER, how many times do we (people in the community and specially those who raise the question about lent season and acceptable behavious) or our family members go to help the priest or church activities ? WE ALSO WILL BE PLEASED TO KNOW, how many things you do that does not bring stigma to the community or what you do to bring laurals to your religious community ?. It's easy to say this is not in line with religious dogmas and that bring stigma to community. When we lose someone from our family or loved one, we know what is stigma and what is a fittness of things ( god protect us and our fly members) 2. We understand and agree with you that goans should be preferably employed by the priest/church in mess work etc.. But have anyone seen around ? how many goans boys are willing to help the priest/church to do household work for the salary that is presently offered ?. we know times have changed, economic demands are more, goans are earning abroad like ourselves. If goans were willing to do all the work for the amount of salary paid in goa, we would not have many problems in goa. ( this can be a big debate ) Now turning to the real problem, Do you believe that the 2 youth killed the priest because
[Goanet] Re: Priests and non-Catholics in Goa
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- - Basilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Priests in Goa and in the rest of India do social work of all types, conduct sports activities, build schools and community facilities, they run schools, dispensaries, they educate, assist the unemployed to get jobs by putting a good word or using their friendships, they mediate family disputes; and you name it, they do, besides burying the dead, baptizing the infants, marrying the marriage-ables, celebrating the eucharisy, and feats, etc. etc The word 'priest' if I am not mistaken, derives from the Greek word meaning 'elder'. Christ often used the word priest as 'sheperd'. There have been approximately 15,000 Goan priests in the last 300 years, and appoximately 2,000 nuns. Their work historically was understood in the context of elder and sheperd. However, in the last 40 years or so, some in Goa have become active in social justice issues, reflecting a world-wide trend. Post-Vatican II, they have crossed the road and commune with the laity, a good thing. I could be very wrong, but in 50 years or so, I can see service and social justice as their primary role, with scholarship a very minor activity. I agree with Basilio, Goan priests (and nuns) are an imperfect lot - just like the rest of us. Long live imperfection. Regards, George
[Goanet] nri delegation
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- I was informed by someone here in Dubai about the delegation's visit. However, the person was not aware of the date. I think it was Godfrey who pointed out the non-benefit of such a visit. Having attended one Goan NRI meet in Goa two years ago, I am convinced nothing much will be achieved. I had also been present at the NRI team visit to Dubai. It was led by Chandrakant Keni and Tony Correia-Affonso was a part of the team. Having attended the Pravasi Divas in 2005, I can say that the issues are almost same for all NRIs and PIOs. Vivian has outlined some. I have also attended Kerala NRI meet, and found their main problems relate to cheap flights to Kerala, the job and medical security in the Gulf, and NRI remittances.'Some of these have been addressed by the Indian government. I forget when but one of these days there will be a meeting of Indians leaders with Minister Kamal Nath organized by the Indian diplomatic commission. The meet is to be held at the Khaleej Times building. The meeting will address issues relating to Indian expat labour. It would be great if Eduardo Faleiro was accompanying the NRI delegation, since he holds a cabinet rank. As I see it, it's a free ride at taxpayers' cost. eugene
[Goanet] RE: Utt Goenkara - By Armstrong Vaz/ An Appeal from a Cuncolkar.
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- From: Nassim Desouza Sent: 22 March 2006 16:58 Subject: RE: Utt Goenkara - By Armstrong Vaz/ An Appeal from a Cuncolkar. Dear Goenkars/Cuncolkars While on the subject of outsiders coming and replacing us goans, Some time ago I read a report in the Gomantak times that a Housing Board Project was proposed to be set up in our village Cuncolim.The citizens of Cuncolim were socked and viewed it with great apprehension. For decades we have strived to live in a harmonious relationship were all caste, creed and religious work, pray and play as one, and being a Cuncolkar is a matter of pride. With the proposed Housing Project, the influx of outsiders will severely affect the peace and traquility of the village.It also puts a strain on the public works system and transportation and will be damaging not only economically but also ecologically.The law and order situation will take a turn for the worse. The inadequate police force existing will not be able to regulate the activities leading to a spurt in crime rate. Thanks to the intervention of the Citizens Action Committee (CCAC), Oscar Martins,Altinho Gomes, Cuncolim Municipal Council chairperson Filon Vaz and other religious heads, the project has now been stopped, but we do not know for how long. So lets take the Solgan UTT GOENKARS by Amstrong Vaz seriously and make every effort to listern to the clarion call from our villages inviting us back. An Appeal It is for this purpose the Cuncolim Welfare Trust is looking for a piece of land from the Govt. or from generous Cuncolkars to either donate or sell ( at a very resonable price) . The land should be accessable with approach road and titles clear.This land will be devloped for a community centre with multi facilities where seniors citizens can revive their old emotions when meeting other Cuncolkars and the not so old and youth can shed their energies and talents.This will also help generate a lot of jobs. (Off course for sons and daughters of the soil). This is an oppurtunity for every Cuncolkar at home and abroad to listen to the calling from his village and look into his heart and give back to Cuncolim what the village has given to you. Awaiting your response. Best Regards. Nassim DeSouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Utt Goenkara By Armstrong Vaz Utt Goenkara ! Utt Goenkara ! It is long that you have taken things in your stride. Time has come to rise from your slumber. Time has changed tracks on a fast lane for you for long. Long for you to have taken the things around for granted. The sudden gush of winds of change will at least make you wiser in thought. The murder of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao on Friday night is a grim reminder for each one of us to rise above our narrow mentalities -- mentalities of narrow mindedness and pulling each of our fellow Goans over trivial things -- trivial things which can be sorted out, and where fences can be mended. The peace and tranquility of Goa has many a countryman know Goa for its tolerance towards all and everything over the years. For years we have played good hosts. We have been guests to all. We do not know what our next door neighbor who has taken a house, flat or a small room for rent would turn out to be. The next door neighbor may vary from being a pedophile, murderer, terrorist, rapist, swindler, property grabber, drug peddler, pimp, prostitute, etc. We do not check the antecedents of the persons. We want to do business -- business of quick money of giving our premises on rent, lest we may lose business to another competitor. The lust to grab a few crisp notes makes us lose our mind in the face of the threat we invite upon ourselves. The police on their part are happy with their daily routine collections of 'hafta' from the various persons in business. The compilation of strangers data in each of the nook and corner is taken a back seat. Utt Goenkara in a non-militant way. Violence does not serve our cause. So next time around when you sell the land take a cautious route. Route of inquiring and prodding a few minutes or for hours to find the reality. Your conscious will be clear that you had made an effort; that you were unsuccessful is a different thing. Next time around do not sell our soul, our land, our pride, our ego and play with your life and life of other fellow beings. The migrants are blamed for the ills but take deep breathe. Where does the mason, the
[Goanet] Book hero is for real
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Book hero is for real Mumbai Mirror MUMBAI, Thursday, March 23, 2006 Gregory David Roberts's sidekick in Shantaram is a real-life taxi driver who led Anchorage victims to activists and helped them fight paedophilia Manoj R Nair What's the connection between the Anchorage paedophilia case and a best-selling magnum opus on Mumbai? It's a forty-something, ever-smiling taxi driver, Kishore, who has been immortalised by Gregory David Roberts in his gritty novel Shantaram. Kishore is one of the main protagonists Prabaker, in the book which is soon to be turned into a Hollywood blockbuster starring Johnny Depp. In the novel, Prabaker, whose character is bumped off in the end, introduces the author to the seamy underclass of Colaba and takes Roberts to his village in Aurangabad where his mother gives the brooding Australian fugitive his Indian name, 'Shantaram'. It now emerges that Kishore/Prabaker who spent his childhood in Colaba and was sexually abused by foreigners, was the first man that the children from Anchorage shelter home approached for help since he was a familiar figure to them. After the children complained to him Kishore, who drove his taxi around Colaba, put them in touch with American sculptor and Colaba resident Carmen Berkson who then took their case to writer Meher Pestonjee and activists from Childline. He himself was not a witness as he had nothing to do with Duncan Grant but he did put the investigators in touch with the boys, says advocate Yug Chaudhary who represented Childline in the case. I was 12 years old when I became a victim of paedophilia. The exploitation went on for eight years. I was angry but I did not complain because I got gifts and money from the foreigners, he says. I had seen these children (from Anchorage) so when they came to me for help I knew exactly what was happening to them. Earlier, say activists, Kishore also played a leading role in nailing the Swiss couple Wilhelm and Lili Marti who were convicted for child abuse and abduction in March 2003. And it was his extensive understanding of the seamy underside of Colaba which eventually drew Gregory Roberts to his story. He had wanted to see what life in an Indian village was like, so I took him to my home, says Kishore. But more interesting than fiction, is his own life story. Married and a father of four, Kishore ran away from home when he was just seven. He had received no formal education because his caste-conscious village would not allow Dalit children like him to share the school with upper caste children. He survived his first few months in the city by polishing shoes outside CST and picking rags till one day he ventured to the Gateway of India where he found that it was easier to make a living begging from the foreigners who thronged the area. In the late seventies, when he was a teenager, Kishore met Freddy Peats, who was later convicted for paedophilia. Peats ran a home for children in Goa and in 1978 or 1979 (he is not sure of the year, he says), Kishore, lured by tales from other children about gifts from Peats, went to his shelter at Colva beach. But he ran back to Mumbai after he was physically abused. Later, when he became a taxi driver, Kishore says he met Duncan Grant too. Since I drove my taxi around Colaba and knew many of the street children who lived there, I knew about his activities. He was yet to set up the Anchorage home and he had a boat on which he used to take boys from the street for a ride in the harbour. After he set up the home, he brought Allen Waters (co-convict in the case) and a Frenchman, he discloses. And just as in Shantaram where Prabaker is the Australian's link to a better world, in real life too Kishore helped the children by leading them to the activists. I wanted justice for the children and for myself, he says. As for his future plans-having seen a certain writer at work at close quarter, Kishore is inspired. He is writing his autobiography in Marathi and has finished about hundred pages. What's Shantaram about? Gregory David Roberts's 936-page novel is the first volume of a projected four based on his own life. In 1980, while serving a 19-year sentence for robbery in Australia, Roberts escaped from prison and fled to India, spending a decade on the lam before he was recaptured and extradited. As Australia's most wanted man he arrives in Mumbai on a fake passport and bumps into Prabaker the taxi driver who becomes his
[Goanet] Re: Atheism
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidA6 | -- Dear Jerry, Santosh has answered many of your questions and I hope you forgive me for adding my Cdn$0.02 to this thread. There are many who reject atheism or non-theism as a valid worldview without really understanding it. It is always difficult to begin to question values and ideals that we have grown up with, particularly religious ones which have always hidden behind a cloak of mystery. Belonging to a particular religion has it's social benefits but we really have to question those when it pits neighbour against neighbour. For me, the last few years have been particularly difficult socially but extremely rewarding intellectually and emotionally. Going public with my views helps me understand them better and hopefully helps others understand me (at least those who genuinely care). But what is Atheism? It carries a negative connotation that it is 'against theism' or anti-religion. However, this is not as true as that it is a disbelief in a supernatural deity that created everything we see around us and that guides the day-to-day destiny of that creation. Who started atheism? The question really should be 'Who started Theism'. The evolution of religion is one that has paralleled the evolution of the intelligence of humankind from the tribal hunter-gatherers who attributed natural geographical events to supernatural deities to the deepest thinking theologians, St. Thomas Aquinas being one of many. Through the ages, there have been thinkers who have defied the common beliefs and gone out on a limb to espouse their 'heretical' views publicly, occasionally at great risk to their own lives, but eventually enriching the scientific view for the rest of humanity. What are its principles? There are no principles of Atheism per se but the underlying concept is that we are responsible for our own destinies without any influence from supernatural forces. In other words, and in one's often quoted in scripture, 'God is within each one of us'. However, this does not mean that atheists are a selfish bunch. Secular Humanism sets out a common manifesto of what it is to live a fulfilling life as an atheist. Do they believe in life after death as most religions believe? No. There is no 'life' as we know or understand it past the moment we take our last breath and the vitality of our essential organs, primarily the brain, fail. Our 'soul' is a sum total of our experiences and influences we have had on others and what lives on is the memories we have created and for those fortunate enough, the genetic material they have left in the form of offspring. (Either, as heaven or hell, or rebirth) We experience our heaven or hell here on earth, while we live - creating a desirable environment or suffering an intolerable one by our actions towards others. Or are they believers of Darwin's principle of evolution that man came from monkey? That is the only logical way we can explain how we came to be and it has been verified by several different and unrelated scientific disciplines. Once we understand that we are an integral part of the web of life and not the ones given 'dominion' over the rest of the earth, we start to realize that we need to clean up our act and that there really isn't anyone out there who is going to help us straighten out the messes that our society has created. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to 'shed some light' Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
[Goanet] CA/PS VIII: BERLIN LANDS ON HERALD'S RADAR!
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Story: Berlin Air Hub Cleared for Take-off (HERALD, March 24,'06) A more detailed perspective: http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1142555964.html A German court gave the long-awaited green light on Thursday for a new airport in Berlin that would open in 2011 and consolidate the capital's three existing airports into a single hub. The idea to develop a single modern airport for Berlin was hatched some 15 years ago, amid the euphoria that followed the fall of the Berlin Wall. But as the city's hopes of becoming a booming metropolis faded amid the reality of a shrinking population and huge public debt, the airport project was scaled down. It has now come to symbolise the city's struggle to adjust to re-unification. In 2003, a construction permit was finally granted to transform Schoenefeld -- a modest airport in southeast Berlin that has become a European hub for Easyjet. The new airport will absorb capacity shared between Schoenefeld and Berlin's two western airports, Tegel and Tempelhof. Some 17 million passengers passed through the three Berlin airports in 2005, well below totals in Frankfurt and Munich -- cities with a combined population half that of Berlin's. The project's supporters, including Germany's airlines, have argued that construction of a single hub airport is essential to boosting the profile and attractiveness of Berlin, which until last year did not even have direct transatlantic flights. The new airport will be the most important infrastructure project in east Germany and experts have said it could create 40,000 jobs in a region where one in five people is unemployed. But critics of the new airport abound. Some Berliners like the convenience of Tegel, just a 15 minute drive from the Brandenburg Gate, while others are loath to see Tempelhof, the airport where US planes landed during the 1948-49 Berlin airlift, shut. Some experts are also dubious about whether a new hub airport will attract more passengers through Berlin. Berlin is an anomaly. It's the capital of the most populous country in the EU but it has few flights outside the bloc, said Dan Solon of airline consultancy Avmark International. Still, I'm not sure there's a real case for a huge new airport. --- The important point here is that Berlin with a total area of less than 1000 sq km (vs Goa's 3700 sq km) has been functioning with not one but THREE airports. Ok partly the numbers are due to politics (East Berlin/West Berlin etc). And the economy is of course much more developed than ours. But multi-airport systems are not unrealistic even if we reduce the relevant area in Goa to 2000 sq km (semicircle with a 70 km diameter, the distance between Dabolim and Mopa). This should put to rest the tired arguments about two airports being too many for a tiny state like Goa. There is nothing God-given about the dynamics of two airport systems. They have to be managed -- right from design to operation. That's all.
[Goanet] The return of Remo (to Bollywood)
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- [This article appeared in Times of India of 23 Mar www.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1460027-curpg-4] The return of Remo Roshini Olivera [ Wednesday, March 22, 2006 09:22:42 pmTIMES NEWS NETWORK ] After a hiatus, singer Remo Fernandes is back to recording Bollywood songs. Whether it's the title track from Jalwa or Huma Huma or the Pyaar Toh Hona Hi Tha number, Remo Fenandes' songs have always had that extra zing that have made them chartbusters. After staying away from Bollywood to explore other forms of music the singer was in town recently to record another number... You were in Mumbai recording for a Bollywood film... Yes, I recorded a song called Jump in the air for music director Pritam. I love his Dhoom machale, and was very happy to work with him. Why don't you sing more often for Hindi films? I took a sabbatical from Bollywood and Pop, because I recorded and released two very serious albums called India Beyond and Symphonic Chants. Now that I've got those off my chest, I'm about to release my new Pop album Muchacha Latina, and I've also started recording the odd Bollywood song. You've done some English songs, Goan folk music, Bollywood numbers, music for the soul. What really is your forte? I love it all. Music is music, and different music caters to our different moods and personality traits. Life would be very boring if we had just one type of music all the time... As a composer what inspires you most? It can be anything a beautiful woman, nature, an incident, an injustice... anything, which makes me feel strongly about a topic or issue. What's the real Remo like? Ah, if we knew our real selves, we'd all attain nirvana! I'm still searching... But at a more realistic level, I think I'd describe myself as rather quiet, introverted, moody, hard working, and in many ways, a loner even though I know that what I come across as on stage is just the opposite of all this. That's the wonderful thing about being a performer we get to express the duality in our personalities, the alter ego, which we all have, but which remains subdued in most of us. [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Cheers !!! Joseph Fernandes Mumbai __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
[Goanet] : Govt move to ban Konkani, Marathi schools run by VHP fronts
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Dear me, The column Shendde todd of Principal Subhash Velingkar in the SUNAPARANT of 23 March, 2006 makes interesting reading. He is almost nostalgic about the Portuguese colonial rulers and Bhausaheb Bandodkar for promoting 1. Marathi education in Goa and 2. Nationalizing the Catholics of Goa through a native language, Marathi. The Congress, on the other hand , is accused of 'anglicizing' the Goans since 1980. According to Velingkar, the Congress is now delivering a body blow to the local language eduction by asking the BJP-VHP groups to return possession of 21 schools entrusted to them for operation by the then Parrikar regime. The loss of 318 students to the VHP is going to ring the death knell of Konakni and Marathi education in Goa and once again going to de-nationalise its children. Imagine this happening when there are 905 Marathi and 79 Konkani primary schools [GPS] run by the Goa Government and 126 Konkani schools run by catholic organisations [like DSE and ABE] and 63 Marathi medium primary schools run by other societies and trusts in Goa. Transfer of 21 out of 1229 primary schools back to Government control brings the VHP to tears. I wonder if it is about the loss of GPS or the loss of possession of the property and infrastructure for VHP propaganda that is worrying Velingkar more. So sad, so nice the days that are no more Viva Goa. Miguel - Original Message - From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Govt move to ban Konkani,Marathi schools run by VHP fronts The 21 schools were run in Marathi medium [ I do not know if one or more of them taught Konkani] but that is NOT the issue. The LANGUAGE or MEDIUM of Instruction is hardly the issue. The issue is that these wereGOVERNMENT Primary Schools [GPS] in villages that were handed over APPARENTLY TO AS MANY PRIVATE ORGANISATIONS somehow affiliated to Vidya Bharati, an umbrella organisation based at Vidya Prabhodini, behind XCHR, Porvorim. Do I need to say more? Viva Goa. Miguel - Original Message - From: Teotonio R. de Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [goa-research-net] Govt move to ban Konkani,Marathi schools (1) Would some GRNetter/s let us know where these schools were functioning (which villages) and how many are they from the total in Goa? Is the reduction of Antruzi Konkani schools that is really bothering the BJP? (2) How much Konkani / Marathi is taught in the post-primary levels? Teotonio R. de Souza --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Panaji, March 22 (PTI): The Goa BJP has strongly condemned government's decision to cancel permission of 21 Konkani and Marathi primary schools from next academic year dubbing it as an attempt to encourage English education in the state.Avelino
[Goanet] Re: The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Hi Mario, Thanks for your feedback and opinion - So what are your modern suggestions to scare away these uncivilized criminals from coming to Goa ? In your list below, You have missed out my last suggestion to Harvest the organs of Amit Shukla and Manish Dhubey for transplants - so that a few Goans may live a little longer to carryout the good work of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao. We need to THINK OUT OF THE BOX for the greater good of our beloved Goa ! These measures may sound barbaric and medieval to you - they make economic sense and they are proven deterrents - they are being practiced to day in China, Saudi Arabia and other countries which do not have a high rate of murders and kidnappings as in dacoit infested states like UP, Bihar, etc. If CM Pratapsingh Rane and ex-CM Manohar Parrikar do not have the testicular virility to support these radical moves and save Goa from what seems to be inevitable anarchy, they should resign. Best Regards, Carmo
Re: [Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests the Alcohol
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Gabe, Considering one bloke is 20 and the other 28, they are quite capable of taking care of themselves. Anyhow, can we consider the possibility that the priest was forced to offer them liquor under duress? I know of people who cannot control their intake - one drink leads to another, and even though the patrao knows they're drunk and refuse them another, they can get pretty aggressive. I don't know about London pubs, but in Melbourne, management reserves the right to refuse to serve an intoxicated customer. Gabriel from downunder. --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/03/06, JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Priest, the Cook, the Guests the Alcohol RESPONSE: - Dear Joe, This goes for Godfrey Gonsalves as well: - The story told by the alleged miscreants is being taken a the gospel truth! We do not know if they were in fact served Alcohol? We should be careful, to avoid tarnishing the name of the Priest who is dead and cannot now defend himself. Here say, is not proof enough, that someone was a doggy person as far as his sexuality is concerned. There have also been stories about this priest being a caring and loving person. There are many priests that enjoy the company of youngsters; that does not make them paedophiles! -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Priests and non-Catholics in Goa
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidA6 | -- Priests and non-Catholics in Goa/India This post in prompted by a couple of posts on Goanet in the wake of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao¹s murder. Some posts on Goanet give an indication that the writers/posters are unfamiliar about life in Goa, in general, and particularly about life and ministry of the Church in Goa. Granted, no one is perfect, and more so the priests are not perfect; although they invite others, by virtue of their vocation, to perfection and holiness; priests hope and expect that in the process of inviting others that they too will move on in the journey of their holiness/perfection. It is work in progress for all. Priests in Goa, and in the rest of India, actively socialize and work as good collaborators with non-Catholics, be they Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or of any other religion. They too come to the priests to seek assistance, guidance and support. The Church in the villages is not just a place for Catholics, but a public square for all villagers of all stripes. The Church square in the villages serves a marvelous function to gather and build the community of people with its myriad activities, be the plays/social functions, sports, health related programs, etc The Church¹ schools in all villages in Goa/India are places where everyone melds as one village community grounded in tolerance and respect for each other at the deepest level. Priests in Goa/India have wonderful and rich friendships with many non-Catholics be they males or females. May be this is the secret, which has nourished the legendary harmony we all brag about in Goa. Many non-Catholic friends have been and are staunch and genuine supporters of many common-good activities initiated by the priests. When this legendary harmony, built painstakingly block by block, is shattered by ugly incidents, we mourn for the demise of the ethic of our society. Yes, and thank the good Lord for that, in Goa and in India very frequently priests, and many people in the villages, make room at their sparse dining tables for non-Catholics and enjoy the solidarity and brotherhood and sisterhood of common humanity, even when they arrive unannounced. Indeed, they do not hesitate to provide shelter to those seeking a place to lay their head and rest their tired bodies, without asking their religious affiliation and place of origin. The vaulted corridors of our Churches provide at least a token of warmth. Almost all beneficiaries are grateful for this act of compassion, and leave transformed (not proselytized) having experienced humanity of another human, albeit a stranger. May I suggest to our overseas living goans/NRI brethren, who have been away, may be for too long, from their motherland, to take time and re-familiarize with Goa/India, and its authetic life lived in the lush villages of Goa. It may surprise you that the priests in Goa, without pomp and circumstance, with their warts and all, do a heck of a job not only for the Catholics, but for the greater good of society. Priests in Goa and in the rest of India do social work of all types, conduct sports activities, build schools and community facilities, they run schools, dispensaries, they educate, assist the unemployed to get jobs by putting a good word or using their friendships, they mediate family disputes; and you name it, they do, besides burying the dead, baptizing the infants, marrying the marriage-ables, celebrating the eucharisy, and feats, etc. etc These priests are not perfect, and they need not need be perfect in order to do good; Nonetheless they reach to anyone who seek to be reached, and in fact at any time of the day or night. I hope this will not surprise those who harbor a parochial notion of the life of the priests in Goa/India. Basilio Monteiro
Re: [Goanet] Re: Godfrey Gonsalves report on FR. Eusebio Ferrao - a correction
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- --- Basilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone! The malicious insinuation by this writer in the below paragraph is unconscionable and tendentious. The writer is earnest in his work (I have read many of his by-lines), however lacks journalistic deonthology and judgment. I knew Fr. Eusebio Ferrao. The writer by introducing and inserting the word -intimacy - into inverted comma, and connecting it with non Goan male youngsters (all in inverted commas) is attempting to connect to readers' mindset about sexual deviancy portrayed among the clergy. This insinuation is patently false. Mario observes: Basilio is far too kind and generous in describing Godfrey Gonsalves as earnest in his work even while the latter is engaged in grossly irresponsible and vicious insinuations of sexual deviancy against his murdered friend, Fr. Eusebio. Unless Gonsalves has incontrovertible evidence of his suspicions he is displaying the vile mentality of a character assassin. If he does have evidence, then why is he resorting to the use of quotes around certain selective and suggestive words in order to leave an impression in the minds of his readers? Why is he suggesting that his unsubstantiated allegations be probed instead of probing first and establishing some facts before making such inflammatory suggestions? It is unconscionable for any responsible person to make such snide insinuations against a murdered priest who is unable to defend himself. However, Gonsalves goes even further to display a hideous bigotry against non-Goans with undertones of religious bigotry as well. He should be ashamed of himself and should publicly apologize to Fr. Eusebio's family. Mario.
[Goanet] Goa Budget: Some High lights (Stamp Duty on Property Purchases - a Correction)
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Goa Budget : Some Highlights ( Stamp Duty on property purchase- a Correction) see the amendments in double brackets. Buying Property in Goa ? Good News!!! Stamp duty reduced from 4% to 2.5%. Different denomination Stamp papers ((for registration of 'agreement for sale' proposed)) and to use as foll: Property Value up to one Lac, the buyer will have to use Rs.100 Stamps papers. upto 5 lacs use Rs.500 stamp paper (( per lac ?)) 5 lacs and above use Rs.1000 Stamp Paper ((per one lac ?)) ((Actual amount for stamp paper seems confusing. Some newspaper say per one lac as abv, where as other says just 3 denomination stamp paper for 3 slabs/Value i.e. upto 1 lac (Rs.100), up to 5 lacs (Rs.500) and 5 lacs and above (Rs.1000). This sounds reasonable though.)) ((Currently, the same is done on just Rs.15 worth of Stamp papers (for up to 15 lacs ?)) That means, if some wishes to buy the recently advertised JoeGoaUk's Bungalow, the total stamp duty one will have to pay at least ((Rs.1,40,000 or Rs.1,01,000)) Now, you work out the asking price for his bungalow. ((Sorry for the blunder. No wonder, why I got two offers almost instantly without even viewing the property.)) === [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: Atheism
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sidA6 | -- Dear Mario, True moral values cannot be made accountable to anyone other than one's self. Our youth look to us for guidance in establishing these values and tend to get discouraged as they see through fictitious characters we have created to try to teach them those values (tooth fairy, santa claus, angels, demons, (god?)) If you have to live your life according to arbitrary rules created on a theologian's whim or papal decree (as opposed to ones that have been established by discussion, debate and democratic principles as in most of our legal rules) then you have to live with everything else that is thrown at you under the guise of religion. Sincerely, Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. Original Message: - From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:40:32 -0800 (PST) Is it more lazy to be held responsible and accountable by a universal moral code required by membership in an organized religion - including Buddhism and Jainism - or is it more lazy to be an atheist who claims to have made up his own moral code based on personal convenience, is able to change it as and when it suits him based on situational convenience, and is not responsible or accountable to anyone, other than the law in whatever society they live in? mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
[Goanet] Portuguese Passport
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Mario Just a few questions to Mario, how secured do you feel today in Goa as compared to the Portuguese rule . How secured are today's churches, priests, women, children, in today's Goa? We have been talking about this portuguese passport for a long time, but many have benefited by securing portuguese passport, not only Goans but many indians too, from Gujarat, daman, diu, and other parts of india and they acknowledge it with great respect. Unlike some of us we have been singing the same song that Portuguese damaged this and that , but what is happening now in Goa is worst , mainly because we are not reacting , we are still the peace loving people , fun frolic , easy going laid back, nothing to worry , we are not bothered if my Goan brother or sister needs help , we are not bothered how we can stay united. I'm a lay man a social worker, educate me on the Portuguese History in Goa, not the Good things but what according to you are their negative footprints they have left in Goa which is not happening now. I think we should start from here.(Now please don't tell me to read it myself) Cheers Sunil _ Sexy, sultry, sensuous. - see why Bipasha Basu is all that and more. Try MSN Search http://server1.msn.co.in/Profile/bipashabasu.asp
Re: [Goanet] Re: Atheism
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jerry, Lazy deists look to a divine source to make up their moral code. All morality is based on empathy. Mario asks: Is it more lazy to be held responsible and accountable by a universal moral code required by membership in an organized religion - including Buddhism and Jainism - or is it more lazy to be an atheist who claims to have made up his own moral code based on personal convenience, is able to change it as and when it suits him based on situational convenience, and is not responsible or accountable to anyone, other than the law in whatever society they live in?
[Goanet] WRITE THE TRUTH, ALWAYS
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Dear Godfrey, It is one thing to score Brownie Points in a debate with the living and another altogether to slander the dead. The dead cannot defend themselves. We have a greater responsibility to tell the TRUTH. what you posted about Fr.Eusebio Ferrao is based on hearsay, not hard evidence. If you have evidence, please give it to the Police or to the Archbishop or both. I will draw a parallel between what you wrote yesterday on the Net groups and what Devika wrote about Tariq Ahmed Battlo. Today, what she stated as facts are denied by the very person she quoted, DIG Ujjwal Mishra. Please take care when you write ill of others, specially the dead. Feel free to write good about others. One can often not undo damage of slander. - Original Message - From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: devika sequeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Secular Goa] media bashing Please read the Navhind Times Page 1 Col 5 with the Headline just below the masthead reading , BATTLO HAD NO ACCOMPLICES IN GOA: DIG The Page 14 continuation has this telling statement from DIG Ujjwal Mishra, IPS THE DIG ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT BATTLO HAD NEVER RUN AWAY FROM THE LEGAL CUSTODY OF THE JK POLICE... So what happens to your assertions and affirmations: QUOTE Braganza, I presume, also has watertight proof that the poor tourist Tariq Jallal was not *jailed for a year in JK in 2000.* Or that he was rearrested in JK in 2002, escaped from custody and has been on the run for four years. UNQUOTE What you deride as far more authentic information being dished out by the froth estate in this forum. is CLOSER TO THE TRUTH than you will care to admit even to yourself . I believe that the Truth and Credibility are two sides of the SAME coin. The freedom to tell the truth is enshrined in our Constitution of India in and beyond Article 21 and in the Ten Commandments [ Thou shalt not bear false witness. Thou shall not steal. It also includes permanently stealing of another's reputation and you have, I think, unkowingly or knowingly robbed many by your writing.] of the faith that we profess?? Warm regards, Miguel .. If you have irrefutable facts [not surmises and guesses or assumptions], place them before the authority that can change the things. Brownie points do not edify a man when slandering the dead. Viva Goa. Miguel
Re: [Goanet] Re: Welcome to Goanet
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- --- JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And remember, there might be many News sites on the web but to choose and pick and/or mix the right one (and to post on Goanet) is itself, is an art. Mario observes: ...pick and/or mix the right one...? Right one based on whose opinion?
Re: [Goanet] Portuguese Passport
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Thanks to Dominic for educating Bernardo, who works so hard at making his motherland look bad, and never lets mere facts get in his way. Indira Gandhi was wrong, as she was in so many economic issues. India lost a number of high achievers and risk takers by her decision, and the UK, US, Canada, Australia and NZ benefited. For those who are unaware, the hotel industry in the US is dominated by mostly east-African Gujaratis. They started with what were derisively called Patel Motels, and, within one generation, now control over 50% of the hotel industry in the US. --- Dominic Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernardo wrote: Those in the UK (hindustanis) did not want to come to India after Idi booted them out. So they opted for their motherland the UK. Dominic Says : Sorry ! Bernardo , just a slight correction here . These Indians in Uganda , were holders of British passports and British Protectorate Id cards . Many of them tried to come back to India the home of their forefathers , but were denied entry by the Indira Gandhi Govt .
Re: [Goanet] Priest Murdered
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- --- afra dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is why was he having dinner with hindu boys late at night. Why did he go to the Passport office with Hindu boys who are not of Goan origin. WAS HE A HOMOSEXUAL? and if he was - who should be hanged? Wait for the courts to decide. Mario observes: Afra, Your questioning Fr. Eusebio's association with Hindus and your snide insinuations about his sexuality are the most despicable I have seen since I have been on Goanet. Carmo wants the government to simply declare the suspects guilty and hang them upside down in a public place. Now, you want anyone suspected of being homosexual to be hanged. And you guys have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to call yourselves Christians? While I understand Carmo's frustration, what you have written in this post is downright shameful.
Re: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And all these barbaric medieval sentences are apparently being endorsed for the benefit of good hearted and peace loving Goans, to avenge and prevent others from doing the same!!! Have these Goanetters taken total leave of their senses? Fr. Eusebio, who tried to help some total strangers, must surely be spinning in his grave. Can we at least wait until the suspects are tried in a court of law, found guilty of the charges against them, and duly sentenced? As opposed to having the local government simply declare a sentence, and then lynching them in public? The last time I checked, India and Goa had not yet descended into the total anarchy of the bereaved that is being suggested here. Criminal suspects, no matter what their admissions to the police, are still innocent until proven guilty, not by friends of the deceased or the government, but in a court of law. Am I wrong? Mario, How on earth can you ever be wrong? Secondly, what you are witnessing is Goans becoming more like the Americans. All they need is for the suspects to be caught, charged with a crime and then executed. There, alls well. Sort of reminds me of the US activities in Iraq and Afganistan. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] PRIEST MURDER - HELP REWARD GOA POLICE
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Now that the duo killers (in their own admission) have been arrested, produced in the Criminal Court Margao and thereafter remanded to police custody for 14 days, the general view of the public is that the police should be allowed to complete their investigations and tighten up the loose ends to enable them make a fool proof case. It must be remembered that the rate of conviction in India is about 4 % and therefore to ensure that the ends of justice are met the people who are in the know of things could at best volunteer to make statements before the court or assist the Maina Curtorim police who have done a comMendable job in tracking down the duo. This in the opinion of well meaning citizens is the only way one could ensure conviction. Hence mere debate/clarifications and counter clarification on press reports etc would only distract the attention of the police. The Deputy Inspector General of Police Mr Ujwal Mishra is believed to have handled the case exceedingly well as on now and even if some statements as may have appeared in a section of the press or in other news media needs to be read between the lines lest the culprits wriggle out of the situation It should also be noted that the antecedents of the duo killers are yet to be identified and at this juncture it would not be possible for the Police to divulge all information. Hence the general feeling is to excercise restraint and support the police personnel. This writer assures the concerned citizens of close follow up on merits as the case progressess. It would also not be out of place if the police personnel of Maina Curtorim Salcete Goa are rewarded for their excellent job, in tracking down the culprits. GODFREY J I GONSALVES BORDA MARGAO GOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9822158584 __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
Re: [Goanet] Crucified Upside Down in Goa?
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, as a good hearted and peace loving Goan, I am troubled that we cannot reach a consensus on the means of execution. Como has suggested the we conduct a public stoning and an upside down crucifiction in Margao, while Heman has suggested we hang these guys. Come of folks, cant we all get a long? Marlon my er, good man, Anyone who has understood the Bible will agree that the central message is, Love your neighbour as you love yourself. However, those who have read the Bible may believe that the message is to stone the devil. Those who think that an upside down Crucifixion is the message probably had the Bible read to them :-) Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Goa Budget: Some Highlights, just for you.
On 23/03/06, JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goa Budget: Some Highlights- just for you (hope there is some thing for every one). I wonder if there is law in Goa/India selling alcoholic drinks to under aged. In UK it is not sold to under 16.. RESPONSE: The law is that Alcoholic drinks cannot be sold to any one under the age of 18 years, there are many who call for the age limit to be raised to 21 years as in parts of the USA. The smoking age limit is 16 years, again there are many who call for the age limit to be raised to 18 years. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Sonia resigns as MP, NAC Chairperson
http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20060323/286121.html Sonia resigns as MP, NAC Chairperson New Delhi | March 23, 2006 4:47:57 PM IST In a swift move to take the wind out of the Opposition''s campaign against her over the Office of Profit controversy, Congress President Sonia Gandhi today resigned as a Lok Sabha member and Chairperson of the National Advisory Council (NAC), asserting that she was in public life not for personal interests but for serving the people. In a brief statement she read out to media at her 10, Janpath residence, Ms Gandhi, who is a Lok Sabha member from Rae Bareli, said an atmosphere had been created in the country in the past two days to give an impression that the government and Parliament were being missued for my cause only. She said this has hurt me greatly since she was in public life not for any personal gains but for serving the people of this country and protect its secular values. Ms Gandhi''s move caught her own party colleagues as well as the Opposition by surprise as it came a day after the Budget Session of Parliament was abruptly adjourned sine die without the traditional recess as media reports suggested that the government might bring in an ordinance on the Office-of-Profit issue to prevent the disqualification of Ms Gandhi as well as some top leaders from Parliament for holding positions which gave them pecuniary benefits. The sword of disqualification from Parliament on Ms Gandhi and other leaders had been hanging ever since Mrs Jaya Bachchan was disqualified from the Rajya Sabha by President A P J Abdul Kalam who accepted the recommendation of the Election Commission in this regard as the Samajwadi Party member is also the Chairperson of the Uttar Pradesh Film Development Council. Political circles were agog with speculation that Ms Gandhi''s resignation might trigger a chain reaction with Parliamentarians and legislators holding offices of profit considering whether they should follow suit. MORE UNI TEAM RP AT KN1619 -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] RE: Welcome to Goanet
On 21/03/06, Agnelo Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Elizabeth There are several self-appointed professors on Goanet. A few of them believe they are the god-appointed authority on a specific issue. Cross the line on that subject, these ayatollahs will be awaken from their usual docile existence. A few of course have a short fuse. These are not professors by any means. These are NRG-CF catholic fanatics who think they now it all, but they know ZILCH about Goa. They claim they are secular, but they are the ones who are the most communal. They are failed professionals (bankers, dotor, etc) who have lots of time to devote on Goanet to promote their own selfish agenda. Agnelo Pinto Ponjekar Comment: Two days have elapsed and the bogus Ponjekar from the USA has not responded. I take exception to the statement regarding failed professionals, perhaps the writer is himself a failed person and is embittered by the experience. Whilst others are thriving and living in relative comfort, Pinto must be taking stock of his dire, gloomy position and is full of envy. I would term a failure as a person who has declared bankruptcy - that indeed is the hallmark of a failed person. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Key discovery made in defeating rice crop's biggest threat
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article353021.ece Key discovery made in defeating rice crop's biggest threat By Steve Connor, Science Editor Published: 23 March 2006 British scientists have made a breakthrough in the fight against a major agricultural pest which each year destroys enough food to feed 60 million people. The researchers believe they have identified the Achilles heel of a pernicious fungus that spoils the annual crop of millions of rice farmers around the world. Rice blast fungus is probably the most serious pest of the most important staple crop in the world and there is little that farmers can do to defend their crops against it. But a study published in the journal Nature holds out the promise of developing environmentally friendly fungicides that can target the precise mechanism which allows the pest to infect a crop of rice. Scientists led by Nicholas Talbot, of the University of Exeter, have identified a key gene of the rice blast fungus which plays an essential role in the infection process. The researchers believe the discovery may also lead to better selective breeding, or even the genetic engineering of new rice varieties that are resistant to rice blast fungus. This is a very important disease of rice and we've been able to show how it delivers its 'weapons' into a rice plant to cause disease, Dr Talbot said. We believe this is something of a breakthrough because it's the first time that we've been able to learn something about the process of how the disease happens. Rice blast is so wide-spread because its spores are present all-year round in the high humidity of the rice-growing areas of the world. The fungus can also infect the rice crop at any stage in its development. Fungal spores are easily spread from plant to plant and they can also lie dormant for many months in the ground as a result of fallen rice grains or stubble. When a spore comes into contact with the leaf of a rice plant, it forms a tiny cell-like bubble which has an internal pressure of about 40 times the pressure of a car tyre. This is used to burst open the tough waxy surface of the leaf. Once the leaf's outer barrier has been breached, the fungus releases small packets, or vesicles, of enzymes that help to break down the plant's cell walls to enable the fungus to invade. The Exeter team identified a key gene of the fungus that is responsible for a protein which appears to play a critical role in controlling the formation of these vesicles. We have identified a secretion system that we think is responsible for delivering the fungal weaponry that causes rice blast disease, Dr Talbot said. We were able to generate a strain of the rice blast fungus which lacks this secretion system and it was completely unable to cause disease. The discovery is significant because it will allow us to identify the fungal proteins which bring about this devastating disease and cause rice plants to die. Dr Talbot said that it could take another five or 10 years to develop practical solutions to the problem of rice blast based on the findings of the latest study. It's estimated that half the world's population relies on rice to survive and in one year alone this disease kills enough rice to feed 60 million people, so we hope this discovery will help to develop chemicals to inhibit this disease, hesaid. Staple facts about rice * There may be as many as 140,000 varieties of rice grown on every continent except Antarctica. * The Mandarin Chinese word for rice is the same as the word for food; in Japan, the word for meal is the same as that for cooked rice. * Rice was cultivated in China as far back as 7,000 years ago, but it may have been indigenous to India much earlier. * In 2003, the world produced 589 million tons of rice. About 534 million tons of that was grown in Asia. * Rice is the first food that an Indian bride offers to her husband and the first food offered to a baby. * Ninety per cent of the calories in rice come from complex carbohydrates or starch. * When all developing countries are put together, rice provides 27 per cent of people's energy intake and 20 per cent of their protein. * Rice and its byproducts are used for making straw and rope, paper, wine, crackers, beer, cosmetics, packing material, and even toothpaste. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests the Alcohol -what rubbish!
Dear Joe, The priest in question is a family friend of my in-laws and they can vouch that he has never visited any of them in their rooms even though he's spent several nights in their ancestral house and there are boys aplenty in my husband's family - all of who are a lot more handsome than some pock-marked boys from UP with paan stained teeth. Secondly, you really believe that these two men became intoxicated after two beers? Men from UP drink battery acid for fun. Goan beer would be more like a Margao bus-stand limonade for them. Lastly since Goa government is so keen on proving causative effect, such as AIDS testing will prevent spread of AIDS, we can safely assume banning consumption of beer will prevent future murders. Expect a ban on beer pretty soon. --- JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Priest, the Cook, the Guests the Alcohol Now that police nabbed the 2 murderers, the motive behind the murder seems still remains suspicious. Some questions still remain un-answered (and may always remained un-answered due to the special case or treatment as this is a church matter) The priest is 61 The cook is 20 The guests- Manish 20 Amit 28. The priest meets Manish for the first time at Margao Garden. That's where (whilst we were bachelors) used to go for fun etc as the garden, for us and for many was a 'Cruising spot' Manish visited the Priest at least on 3 other occasions.. and treated him well. Friday the 17th March: The guests visited the priest in the afternoon. The Priest call them back at night Half of my friends abstain from drinking alcohol during lent season. Remaining half would not drink or eat meat on Fridays only. But our two guests were entertained with good meals and beer whisky too. The guests n the cook are not used to drinking that was offered by the Priest. 'Padri aponn pita ani dusriamkui dita soro ? ani korezmant ? xi baba' After meals and drinks they all go to sleep separately. But the Priest, late in the night goes to check whether they are fine and that's where the trouble started ??? Is the beer in goa is too much of alcohol contents ? or some more dose of whisky added to the beer ? If so, by whom and why ? The cook too had a peg of whisky (with added dose?) and he had a sound sleep that he could not even hear the screaming of the Priest. It reminds me of a Pop Star/Singer who was accused of adding such doses to soft drinks so that his victims get intoxicated.. Some questions may never be answered. Why they will kill some one who is so close to them? Merely not offering a job could not be an excuse.. Why entertain guests at night (and when one was a stranger) ? Why serve alcohol ? (and to those who never had alcohol before). Why visit middle of the night (could be around 2am) ?? Now, Who is to blame ? The Priest, the cook, the guests or the alcohol ?? Whatever may be the case or the motive/outcome, there is always something to learn from.. Church should also make sure that there are no priests living all alone in the church due to health security reasons and any other temptations that may arise while living all alone (due to frustrations etc.). Now, will I get brickbats or rotten eggs for looking through one of the many possible angles ?? As said earlier, it could be any thing. Because anything is possible now a day. May the departed soul rest in peace. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Re: HIV test to be made mandatory for marriage
However, I don't think an AIDS test is a deterrent to post-marital sex. These men will visit prostitutes after they get married and will infect their wives. That much we can be sure off. AIDS is more a lifestyle disease and unless we inform people to change lifestyles, use condoms and practice safe sex, we won't be successful in preventing its spread. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have read the post (I think by Gabriel) about Russian women (Russian mafia-prostitutes) bringing HIV to Goa. The blondes spread it to the local population with the help of the Goan motorcycle pilots - perhaps in exchange for a free lift.:=)) Also there was a post about the spread of HIV in Goa's medical facilities by reusing syringes, catheters and unsafe blood. India has the largest number of HIV positive cases in the world - see Bill Clinton's work and Bill Gates work on this front in India. A pre-marital compulsory HIV test may be a deterrent to pre-marital sex. And in today's world, any real or imaginary deterrence can be helpful. Regards, GL Beverley de Sequeira: I do agree with Ms Carvalho that making the HIV Test mandatory is an invasion of one's privacy.. But however, one has seriously consider that in doing so, numerous innocent lives will be spared the anguish unfairly inficted upon them in unwittingly contracting the disease from a infected spouse.. Have personally , in the course of practise, had a few patients who contracted the disease, unsuspectingly from their spouses.. she breast -fed her child, and it was only later that both mother and child tested positive for the HIV virus Social stigma followed and she is now homeless having been thrown out by her in-laws. Despite medical advances and now the free availibility of ART, there is still a lack of a complete cure for AIDS.. Better safe than sorry , right ?? jc: Well said Lawrence! (Rodrigues) Wonder too how mant Goa Doctors who own these pathology labs will go along with this. Lawrence Rodrigues: We have decided to amend the Goa Public Health Act making HIV test mandatory before registration of marriage, State Health Minister Dayanand Narvekar told reporters after the cabinet meeting. If amendment comes through, Goa would be the first state in the country to have mandatory HIV test before marriage, Narvekar added. Some more nonsense from our Goan politicians!!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be Crucified Upside Down in Goa
Hehehe, Marlon that was hilarious!! They say nature abhors a vacuum. Obviously not, if we take into account the vacuum between people's ears. Carvalho ;) --- Marlon Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to pay tribute to the exempleary courage exhibited by Heman and Como in pushing for the immediate execution of these alleged criminals. However, as a good hearted and peace loving Goan, I am troubled that we cannot reach a consensus on the means of execution. Como has suggested the we conduct a public stoning and an upside down crucifiction in Margao, while Heman has suggested we hang these guys. Come of folks, cant we all get a long? In my opinion, we need to doze over this a little more deeply before we take any hasty decision. The fundamental issue as implied by Como and Heman is that the nation of Goa is being invaded by these non Goan criminals who are destroying our superior culture. With that in mind, we need to be a little more bold and ambitious in our actions. Why have a limited one off Taliban like stoning, when we can aspire to a grander Nazi style genocide of all the non-Goans who have invaded our land? It is not my intent to question the sincere thoughts of Como and Heman, but rather to open the forum so that they and all like mindless Goans reach a mutual consensus on the best way to accomodate our very good hearted and peace loving attitudes of vengence, revenge and xenophobia. Dev borem korum (aka death to the infidels) Marlon --- Herman D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I SUPPORT THAT. I THINK PEOPLE COME TO GOA AND ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OPENDOOR, GOOD HEARTED AND PEACELOVING GOANS. THE GOVERNMENT OF GOA TOGETHER WITH THE RESIDENTS OF GOA HAVE TO LOOK MORE DEEPER IN THIS MATTER AND USE A FIRM IRON HAND IN DEALING WITH SUCH PROBLEMS BUT MY OPINION IS A MURDERER SHOULD BE HANGED HERMAN --- CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, To avenge and prevent ghastly murders like that of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao in Macazana, Salcette, Goa, I hereby urge the Congress Government of Goa CM Pratapsingh Rane and the leader of the opposition Manohar Parrikar to declare that the perpetrators Amit Shukla and Manish Dhubey be arrested and brought to Justice in Goa by widely televised Public Stoning and Cruxifiction Upside Down in the Margao Maidan on Good Friday, 2006. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Portuguese Passport
Domnic and Bernardo Indians definitely do not refer to the UK as the motherland and have never done so. Indeed, most are embarrassed and cringe that the West Indians from the Carribean used such terminology when they arrived in the UK. Cornel DaCosta, London, UK. - Original Message - From: Dominic Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:28 PM Subject: [Goanet] Portuguese Passport Bernardo wrote: Those in the UK (hindustanis) did not want to come to India after Idi booted them out. So they opted for their motherland the UK. Dominic Says : Sorry ! Bernardo , just a slight correction here . These Indians in Uganda , were holders of British passports and British Protectorate Id cards . Many of them tried to come back to India the home of their forefathers , but were denied entry by the Indira Gandhi Govt . The UK was forced to accept them either because they held British Passports / Protectorate Documents . This in now way entitles them to call the UK their motherland . regards Dominic
[Goanet] RE: The Smearing of one who is unable to respond et HIV testing.
Dear Basilio and Jose Oscar, I second your posts, and the sentiments contained therein. Fr. Eusebio is not around anymore to clear his name; He was brutally murdered. The Police Chief has released bits and pieces of the confession from the alleged murderers. That may or may not be the whole truth. Don't really know IF it served any particular purpose, save police propaganda, for the Chief to release that statement. Are ALL and forensics the inquiries done with? In the mean time, we are about insinuating that the underlying motives could be a homosexual relationship (group sex?) etc etc. Yes...it could be anything, even our own mindsets...but ON what basis are we speculating thus? It is not as though this is the first or last time that a gruesome act like this has happened or will happen. Viva Liberation and the unregulated number of Bhaille across NO Borders, it brought us. A decade ago (in Velim) the scouts aka bhaille tied up an elderly woman and hung her from the main beam holding the roof. Luckily the spunky grandmother survived for 12 hours before someone came next morning, and helped her down At about the same time, another grandmother (this time in Nachinola) was tied and dumped into the well - by a bhaillo who was given refuge + work in the house - with tragic consequences. In every village, these events happen with regularity. A rape here, a robbery ther, a land grab there, and coercion somewhere else. Then there is the killing. Not that these things do not happen elsewhere in the world. They do only, with the situation as exists in Goa ...with a lot of young folks HAVING to work away to support the family, and the FREE PASS that these folks have to enter Goa and disappear courtesy the Konkan Railway, the situation can only get worse. The Congress has brought in a culture of Corruption The BJP added a violent element to the MGP culture of Zhalacch Pahije money land swipe. The Police are a law to themselves. The so called Journos continue to sit on the fence, drinking cups of tea writing bogus stories - while censoring others (wonder IF this one will get through on GoaNet) and Goans are being kept busy wondering whether there should or should not be having a mandatory HIV test before marriage! What is the Govt going to do IF the couple refuses to have their blood taken? Refuse to grant them a marriage license and force them to continue (commence) a clandestine (or open) resolution to their natural intentions .sans marriage? What if the couple went to (say) Bihar and got civilly married ? Would Goa refuse to recognise the marriage (I wanted to say the Andamans ...but that will touch a raw nerve among people who believe that Indians are a race etc etc) (;-) I could understand the young lady saying to the fella ...let's have an HIV test and repeat it in 4 months ... and then, may be if you use a decent condom with a spermicide, I'll agree to sexual relations with you or even .marry you ! . In the meantime let's both get immunised with the Hepatitis B vaccine. But IF the Govt plans to protect any innocent party from unwittingly contracting, HIV or Hep B, they may want to advise the couple to Do all that is necessary to protect them WAY before they decide to get married. Unless ...we are ALL really going to sit on the fence with our ostrich necks heads stuck firmly in the sand. BTW: did someone say that Hepatitis B was not a killer disease? You see I did not know that ! good wishes jc _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
[Goanet] Goa Budget: Some Highlights, just for you.
Goa Budget: Some Highlights- just for you (hope there is some thing for every one) NRI ? or Foreign Touristcoming to GOA by charter flights or through hotel booking? You will pay Rs.100 per head (as cess). That's about 1.3 British pounds. Last year, there were about 3.5 lacks foreign tourist, next year it could be 4 lacs i.e. 4,00,000 x Rs.100 = Rs.400,00,000 (Rs.4 crores)to earn as tax/cess. Not a bad idea. Don't know why it was not introduced during the last 5/6 years. During the year 1985/86 there were only 24 charter flights but last year 425 charter flights landed in Goa. Of the 20 Countries, 40% tourists come from UK. Senior Citizen ? There is some thing for you too (including me) New Scheme called 'Ummid Scheme' coming soon for ageing population for starting Day Care Homes to senior citizen. Nice one!!! Hope they start it soon as I am soon joining the age group band 65-75. Drinking Beer ? Good news for you too. Beer is cheaper by about Rs.2 per bottle. Fenni or Urak ?? That's cheaper too just 4% excise duty all others 20%. Are Lapit, vachtai mure tum ?? More news about Beer n Wine: You will now be able to tell your wife or sons/daughter to add Beer/Wine to their house hold shopping list. As beer will now be available at 'posro' or from grocery shops to road side kiosk. Just pay Rs.15,000 licence fees annually. Father will now say to his son BAB RE, POSREAKO VOS ANI EK KIL SAKOR, EK KIL GODD ANI EK BIERACHI BOTLI GHEUN HIO MATXE ? Son: KESO BOTLI PAI? KINGFISHERU, BELO OU ALEM ??? I wonder if there is law in Goa/India selling alcoholic drinks to under aged. In UK it is not sold to under 16. Sports: State-of-the-art Cricket Stadium coming up at Tivim. Swimming Pools at Ponda, Curchorem, Canacona-Chauri and Chicalim coming up soon. 18 hole Golf Course of International Standard also proposed. Transport: New Bus Stands at Margao, Mapusa, Quepem, Shiroda, Valpoi, Pednnem and Sanguem. Living in GOA Hotel ? Luxury Tax as follows: Up to Rs.200 room charge: Nil 201- 1000 : 5% 1001-3000 : 8% 3001 Abv: 10% Buying Property in Goa ? Good News!!! Stamp duty reduced from 4% to 2.5%. Different denomination Stamp papers to use as foll: Property Value up to one Lac, the buyer will have to use Rs.100 Stamps papers. upto 5 lacs use Rs.500 stamp paper per lac 5 lacs and above use Rs.1000 Stamp Paper per one lac. That means, if some wishes to buy the recently advertised JoeGoaUk's Bungalow, the total stamp duty one will have to pay at least Rs.40,000. Now, you work out the asking price for his bungalow. Hospitals: Visiting GMC from far away ? Perhaps, you are travelling from far away say from Sanguem, Canacona, Pednem etc You will now be able to stay at Guest House called 'Yatri Niwas' which will be constructed at GMC to help parent/relatives of the patients to stay over night etc. Five new Public Health Centres coming up at Chimbel, Calangute, Mayem, Porvorim and Navelim. New modern hospital at Ponda. New building of Asilo and Hospicio. Kalakar or Artists ? There is some thing for your too. KALAKAR KRITADDYATA NIDHI to aged needy artists also starting soon. I am sure, our aged TIATRISTs will be benefited too. This was long over due any way. Financially weaker section of the society: To deposit Rs.25,000 in fixed deposit in the name of the girl student who takes admission in Std.XI called 'Kanya Dhan' Scheme. Help to construct new house Rs.25,000 or Rs.12,500 for repairs. Konkani: Development of Konkani Software. Translating of Central and State Acts in Konkani. IT: New IT Park at Salvador do-Mundo and Soccoro. The Budget, my verdict: Good. Source: Goan Dailies, picked and mixed just for you. Thanks to Charter Flights express delivery. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] NRI Association in Goa
Vivian D'Souza needs to be commended for putting the work profile and/or the job of seeking some valid and useful answers to the NRI/NRG problems in Goa/India. Haven't I said before that Vivian has a head on his shoulders? At the last NRI convention held at the Kala Academy, I had taken a print-out of Vivian's post on goanet where he had said that it would be more profitable and satisfying to attend the Goa Sudharop function at CARITAS, Panjim rather than attending the pochpochit (my word, not Vivian's) inaugural function of the NRIs at the Kala Academy. However, I did not get a suitable time/opportunity to read it out openly which I had decided to do. What Vivian has put together (the work list) is what I had in mind when I proposed at the Kala Academy that the NRIs have their own representative on the NRI (useless existing) Cell to make it more vibrant. Having Herculano Dourado (a literal 'pokhro'), Chandrakant Keni ( a burn out), Brigadier Ian D'Costa (the Indian military mentanlity) etc. on the NRI Cell was a set back for the NRIs as it was. It would make the NRI Cell more NRI oriented with their own rotating representative inside in the Cell. Now that the NRI Cell is defunct, it is just as well. The NRIs in Kuwait should weigh well their dinars and fils against spending on the defunct Cell members who are going to be visiting them at the Kuwaitkar's cost for going there for their own personal agendas rather than to find the solutions to the Kuwaitkar's problems. If at all, the Kuwaitkar's problems will increase ten folds where there are none so that the NRI Cell members justify their being there. It is better that the Kuwaitkars throw them out by giving them a very very cold shoulder even if the weather in Kuwait does not permit it to be so. The answers that Vivian has sought are the answers that the present NRI representative will have to find and display on their very own official website the 'NRI Goan Association' at www.gos500.com Floriano goasuraj check-out the Road Map for Goa at www.goasu-raj.org PS. If some guys like Jaime Rebello and others get the qualification as NRIs, do I get one for being all over the world, not just Dubai or Bahrein for most of my working and earning life??? ( BTW I am indeed in very good humor at this very moment and this could be taken as a joke??) - Original Message - From: Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:23 AM Subject: [Goanet] NRI Association in Goa Can someone let me/all of us know the status of the planned NRI Association in Goa ? I attended a meeting of NRIs in February at the Kala Academy, but had to leave early. Later I heard that as an outcome of that meeting, an Association of NRIs in Goa had been formed, with a certain leadership. Then I heard that things had changed and there was a new leadership and the new Association was to be launched at a prominent restaurant in Verna. Then...total SILENCE. - I alerted subscribers to the GOAN-NRI forum that plans were afoot to start an association. I received several positive comments and requests to be signed up as members. Then we had a report from Floriano Lobo alleging yet another (rival) attempt to form an NRI Association. Can we not get our act together. ? Having come to live in Goa I would like to join other returnees like me, to network and to assist and inform each other of the problems they have encountered when returning to Goa and how they resolved them. If we are united we can accomplish a lot, including interacting as a group with the new NRI Commissioner. Topics.issues for discussion include but are not limited to the following: PIO (Person of Indian Origin) card vs Dual citizenship, the advantages and disadvantages of one versus the other. How does it affect one's foreign nationality. Retaining your NRI status when you come to Goa Customs regulations when bringing personal effects to Goa Income Tax on foreign income and local income Buying property, holding property through inheritance What is a form I XIV ? Getting a drivers license in Goa Purchasing a vehicle in Goa Strategies to remove legal or illegal tenants and encroachers from your property Foreigners Registration, who needs to register, and why. Special priveleges accorded to senior citizens in India (discount on air and rail fares for example). Medical and dental treatment in Goa/India, . Working or starting a business or NGO in Goa Establishing a NRI Village or Township in Goa, with amenities that NRIs have gotten used to abroad. (I am not a proponent of such a scheme, but just putting it out for discussion). Clearly, all of the above are important topics. Some of us having lived here for a while may have answers to some of them. Others may not have a clue. Together we can seek answers, invite speakers, professionals to
[Goanet] Auroville
Hi Radhakrishnan You raise an interesting question about Auroville. I may have heard of such a place but definitely of other similar 'communes' in Britain and elsewhere. Such communes tend to come and go and the people there are inclined to say they have renounced their nationality and citizenship but this is said metaphorically. Anyone can call themselves world citizens and indeed, I like to think I am one myself! But this is a meaningless term in a legal context or in international law. We are all world citizens if we want to call ourselves, as such, but as there is no recognition of such a status, for a passport for instance, the self-declared world citizens need to resort to their travel documents which make their nationality explicit if they urgently need to travel abroad. Indeed, if persons in Auroville had actually travelled there from outside India, and then torn/destroyed their passports, but had to be deported for any reason, they would be deported to their country/nationality which they had prior to entry into India, regardless of their plea that they were world citizens. Similarly, if such people opted to leave Auroville because they had become disillusioned, or whatever, and had previously destroyed their passports, they would need to obtain new passports and use the pretext that they had lost their passports to their embassies/high commissions! But of course, there may well be people in Auroville who did not have a passport in the first place and could leave Auroville and stay on elsewhere in India. Re your last sentence/question, the answer is simple enough. Those in Auroville would have taken a specific identity and good luck to them. However, such a self-taken identity definitely does not constitute their nationality as legally defined anywhere in a globalised world. If necessary, the Indian Government would have no difficulty in determining the nationality and citizenship of anyone in Auroville irrespective of their assumed identity as world citizens. The criteria for determining nationality have become pretty universal today. I hope I have answered your specific question but do have to say that, I am a little surprised at the seeming conflict within you to a fairly simple issue. My explanation is based on commonsense and not on anything remotely academic at which you also hint! Regards Cornel PS Yes, I did note Mario's dictionary presentation for 'nationality' fleetingly. Anyone can draw from a dictionary/encyclopaedia but I chose to ignore it. I have tended to do this about anything from that source recently, for invariably being inconsequential and unhelpful on Goanet. - Original Message - From: Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:42 PM Subject: [Goanet] Re: Portuguese passports etc. Hi Cornel, Read your post with keen interest, sir! As a professor of post-doctoral studies in Britain, you've given a politically correct definition of nationalilty. I have to concede that my definition of nationality is what you call identity if nationality is defined within the narrow parameters of citizenship. In this context, please note a subsequent post from Mario on the topic. You might have heard of Auroville, a commune founded by sage-philosopher Sri Aurobindo in Pondicherry, a former French enclave in South India. Talented people from all parts of the world are engaged in spiritual, intellectual and artistic pursuits there, after renouncing their citizenships. They call themselves world citizens. Please tell us how we determine their nationality, independent of their identity. Regards, RKN Radhakrishnan
Fw: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be CrucifiedUpside Down in Goa
Colleagues I think my post below got missed out or got lost. Cornel - Original Message - From: cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be CrucifiedUpside Down in Goa Carmo Clearly, the law in Goa would not allow for your proposed public stoning and crucifiction upside down in the Margao Maidan re the murderers of Fr Eusobio Ferrao. Notwithstanding many emotional outbursts, the law of the land must prevail in such situations to avoid the kind of lynchings so prevalent in the not too distant past in the USA and elsewhere too. Cornel - Original Message - From: CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:29 AM Subject: [Goanet] The Murderers of Fr. Eusebio Ferrao Should be CrucifiedUpside Down
[Goanet] NRI Association in Goa
Dear Vivian, The best place to find a helping handis the end of one's own arm. If the NRIs, and NRI returnees, do not help themselves, nobody will. Native Goans elbow their way into Government-funded NRI organisiations for 1.Position, 2. a platform to make pious speeches with a captive audience or, where ever possible , for 3.pecuniary benefit, foreign junkets and the like. There is a trip happening end of this month to the Gulf . What the amn brought from Athens Olympics for hockey in Goa is information that there are Goans living in Greece! Chandrakant Keni is at the moment that pious catholics pray for Our Lady's assistance in the Holy Mary. What can he do for the NRIs?? What has he done for the NRIs in the last three years...Gomant Vishwa Sammellan and Gomant Darshan?? What did you achieve in the Global Goan Meet organised by Rene Barreto, the UK- based NRI from Patrong?? More talk? Is there something concrete happening. My friends and I have spent our time trying to help Rene. In another two weeks he will be gone. Then we will hear about the World Goa Day again. WGD is goodbut it is not GOOD ENOUGH. If you want to be a part of a vibrant NRI Association, start meeting like minded people, draw up a constitution, register it with the Registrar of Societies, raise Life Membership, say a US$100.00 or equivalent in INR, open a bank account. If you have 20 life members and 3 are willing to work one day a month for the association for a year, I will help you achieve what no NRI organisation has achieve so far in terms of ability to help a NRI when he is down in Goa for a month. You have to be a part of the change that you want to see. Light a lamp, don't curse the darkness. Many hands make light work. JUST DO IT ! Viva Goa. Miguel Vivian D'Souza wrote: Can someone let me/all of us know the status of the planned NRI Association in Goa ? I attended a meeting of NRIs in February at the Kala Academy, but had to leave early. Later I heard that as an outcome of that meeting, an Association of NRIs in Goa had been formed, with a certain leadership.
[Goanet] Priests Murder
Hi Joe , You have raised very important and pertinent questions . Lets hope they are all answered ! Another nagging question that comes to light , again is the question of celibacy for priests and nuns , i feel it should be done away with . regards Dominic
[Goanet] Portuguese Passport
Bernardo wrote: Those in the UK (hindustanis) did not want to come to India after Idi booted them out. So they opted for their motherland the UK. Dominic Says : Sorry ! Bernardo , just a slight correction here . These Indians in Uganda , were holders of British passports and British Protectorate Id cards . Many of them tried to come back to India the home of their forefathers , but were denied entry by the Indira Gandhi Govt . The UK was forced to accept them either because they held British Passports / Protectorate Documents . This in now way entitles them to call the UK their motherland . regards Dominic
[Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests the Alcohol
Stop this gossip and get back to work Jude Fernandes Credit Controller FREIGHTWORKS Tel: 009714 2044507 Fax: 009714 2044561 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Winner of Dubai Quality Award Appreciation Programme - Services -Original Message- From: JoeGoaUk The Priest, the Cook, the Guests the Alcohol Now that police nabbed the 2 murderers, the motive behind the murder seems still remains suspicious. --- Read all Goanet messages at : http://www.goanet.org/archive.php?name=Newslist=goanet
[Goanet] Re - Damage to Places of Worship.
Hi Tom , You have indeed raised a very important issue . Part of the problem is that the present minority community in Goa is generally percieved as an extremely peace loving laid back community which shuns confrontation , and is weak . Some years ago , when there was a spate of attacks on the Christian community all over India ,finally culminating in the cold blooded murder of Missionary Graham Staines and his sons , the general conclusion was that Christians being a peace loving community and hence an extremely soft target , the culprits could get away with murder . However outnumbered though one community maybe , there are definitely ways and means of sending across a message that to mess around unnecessarily would be courting disaster . The Jewish community in the middle east , as well as globally has sent thi= s message very clearly by making its attackers / enemies accountable for their deeds . The sooner these elements realise 1) That there is no advantage to be derived from superior numbers , 2) No attack will be left unaccounted for . the sooner better sense / peace will prevail . thanks Dominic
Re: [Goanet] NRI Association in Goa
On 22/03/06, Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone let me/all of us know the status of the planned NRI Association in Goa ? I attended a meeting of NRIs in February at the Kala Academy, but had to leave early. Later I heard that as an outcome of that meeting, an Association of NRIs in Goa had been formed, with a certain leadership. Then I heard that things had changed and there was a new leadership and the new Association was to be launched at a prominent restaurant in Verna. Then...total SILENCE. RESPONSE: As George Pinto's earlier post on this subject showed. People are beginning to wonder who to turn to! It is a fact that Mr. Eduardo Faleiro, has been appointed by the Governor of Goa to assist the NRI's. He has yet to be given terms of reference, as to what his post entails. In the meantime as Fred's posted article stated, Mr Faleiro welcomes anyone to email him with their views and gripes. The meeting for the newly inaugurated NRI's was to take place in Leonora's in Verna. It was cancelled, as I am given to believe, because Mr. Faleiro was unable to attend. The Governor and Mr. Rane also cancelled. since this was the case. The meeting did not go ahead as planned. There is a website of this group which was earlier published on this forum by me. Take care and be good! -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] 25th March LPG Consumers Safety Camp at St.Estevam.
- Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members, relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED, The time is come for the people of Goa to ORGANISE not AGONISE !! - --- LPG Consumers Safety Camp at St.Estevam on Saturday 25th March. -- As part of the GOACAN Consumer Rights Awareness Fortnight the St. Estevam Civic and Consumer Forum in collaboration with M/s Nagesh Mahalaxmi Gas Service, Marcela is organising a Safety Camp for the benefit of the LPG consumers of Hindustan Petroleum on Saturday 25th March at 4.00pm at St. Theresa High School, St. Estevam. The LPG Safety Camp is organised by the Distributor of HP Gas and the Consumer Forum to provide instructions to the consumers on the safe use of LPG cylinders. Demonstration and instructions on fitting the gas regulator, detection of gas leakages, change of rubber tube, insurance cover for consumers, mechanical check by authorized personnel of the company and emergency services by Hindustan Petroleum will be provided at the Safety Camp. The resource person for the program will be Mr. S. Karve Senior Sales Officer, HP Gas. Consumers of St. Estevam are invited to attend the LPG Safety Camp and take benefit of the services provided. --- Message from Artimisia Rangel - Convenor St. Estevam Civic and Consumer Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK --- promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa --- GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601 GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goacan.org ---
Re: [Goanet] The Priest, the Cook , the Guests the Alcohol
On 22/03/06, JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Priest, the Cook, the Guests the Alcohol RESPONSE: - Dear Joe, This goes for Godfrey Gonsalves as well: - The story told by the alleged miscreants is being taken a the gospel truth! We do not know if they were in fact served Alcohol? We should be careful, to avoid tarnishing the name of the Priest who is dead and cannot now defend himself. Here say, is not proof enough, that someone was a doggy person as far as his sexuality is concerned. There have also been stories about this priest being a caring and loving person. There are many priests that enjoy the company of youngsters; that does not make them paedophiles! -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] The Athletics Drought (V M de Malar)
EF, I am afraid the link to SA did not work. BC --- Eddie Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, BC, he ran metres and miles, yards and inches with his feet! ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Priest Murdered
On 22/03/06, afra dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Goanetters, - My question is why was he having dinner with hindu boys late at night. Why did he go to the Passport office with Hindu boys who are not of Goan origin. WAS HE A HOMOSEXUAL? and if he was - who should be hanged? Wait for the courts to decide. Afra. RESPONSE: This thread about the priest being a homosexual is simply rumour mongering of the worst kind. The priest is dead and cannot defend himself. It seems that one can get away with besmirching any one's name in Goa. Afra should know better, living in the U.K. that one has to have witnessed events with their own eyes, for the Courts here to even accept statements to be put forward. Now this is a hypothetical question. Since when is it a hanging crime to be a homosexual? Even if the priest was a homosexual, did that justify his being murdered? -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Re: HIV test to be made mandatory for marriage
Gilbert, Australia demands an HIV test for those that come to Australia for a long term visit or immigration. I wonder, given the explosion in the spread of HIV, if India could request an HIV certificate from reputed local hospitals from where visas are issued? Though impractical for short-term visitors, any extensions of the visa period should be accompanied by the results of tests for HIV. Just a thought ... Gabriel de Figueiredo. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have read the post (I think by Gabriel) about Russian women (Russian mafia-prostitutes) bringing HIV to Goa. The blondes spread it to the local population with the help of the Goan motorcycle pilots - perhaps in exchange for a free lift.:=)) On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Offtopic - A discussion on Hyderabad
I was surfing to get to know more about Hyderabad (India). And it appears that Goans are not the only ones hurting or smarting over Nehru's military takeovers. = http://www.talkaboutinvestments.com/group/sci.econ/messages/201532.html discusses about how the takeover of Hyderabad was concocted: False, except in the limited sense that restoring law and order was always used as an excuse by outsiders seeking to intervene; it omits who caused the disruption in the first place. It's the sort of excuse colonialists always used, e.g. in Andrew Jackson's takeover of the Floridas. This one was known as a police action for the same reason the Dutch called what they were doing in the East Indies a police action, using a loophole in the UN definitions of illegal war to avoid outside criticism. ... It is known that India routinely slipped infiltrators across the frontier of places like Hyderabad, Goa, Sikkim and so on - basically the sort of tactics Germany used in the Sudetenland and Austria. These infiltrators did NOT commit violence themselves, they merely took non-violent tactics to the point where ordinary government couldn't be maintained (this was what the Germans did too, to provoke frontier incidents justifying intervention). An insteresting story by William Dalrymple can be found at http://www.travelintelligence.net/wsd/articles/art4print_832.html Under the Char Minar The old man (Mir Moazam Hussain) settled himself back in his rocking chair and shook his head, half amused, half frustrated: My grandchildren for instance. I can see the disbelief growing in their eyes as I talk. By the end - though of course they are much too polite to say so - I can see they are thinking that I must be either completely senile or completely mendacious. One of the two. For them the old world of Hyderabad is completely inconceivable: they can't imagine that such a world could exist. ... But I did believe Mir Moazam, for I had long heard equally fantastical stories about the State of Hyderabad. Years ago, Iris Portal, an old friend of my grandmother, had told me a story I had never forgotten: how one day in the late 1930's she had been taken to see some of the Nizam's treasure which was hidden in a secret vault in one of the palaces. This was at a time when Iris's husband ran the staff of the Nizam's younger son, and Iris had befriended his wife, Princess Niloufer. == Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Memories of another Panjim...
--- Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Memories of another Panjim... Ah Esquimó! A delighful place for us kids with the aroma of vanilla floating around. But then, you have forgotten Café Central and the Jesuit Chapel - when we used to go for mass at noon at the Jesuit Chapel (Missa dos ossiósos or the Mass for the lazybones, as one of my cousins used to say), the aroma of baji puri and samosas that used to waft upwards used to make my mouth water (the Jesuit Chapel was situated directly over Café Central, in the old building). Gabriel: Was it a Missa dos ossiósos (ociosos) or Missa dos preguiçosos? Jorge You're right, Jorge, it was Missa dos preguiçosos - I got it mixed up with the Banco dos ociosos (coined by that same cousin) in the Municipal Garden (Garcia de Orta), where the older generation used to get together every evening to discuss the day's events (men on one bench, their wives on another), a group which my Dad used to join sometimes after he finished work at the Academia, at around 8:00pm. Cheers, Gabriel. On Yahoo!7 Messenger - Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Atheism
Hi Jerry, Thanks for your politeness. Your post is a refreshing reminder of Goanet of yesteryears when disagreements were confined to the matter being discussed. My brief responses to your questions and points are interspersed below. --- Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you mentioned Buddhism and Jainism are atheistic in nature, it may be true, but did they start as atheistic ism's? Yes. Buddhism and Jainism never had a belief in an all-powerful deity. Buddha and Mahavira did not believe in the existence of a creator god. In fact, Buddha even mocked the general concept of a creator. What was he enlightened with? I have read that he realized that we do not have a self. He began to believe that one could recognize this through meditation. One could literally contemplate the state of anatman (the non-self). He also realized that elaborate religious rituals, offerings, social stratifications based on caste, etc. were completely worthless. Isn't it the same thing that we witness in Judaism and hence Christianity too, where ordinary people were enlightened and become prophets? Yes, but each such enlightened human being comes up with his/her own views about life. Some things might be similar, but there are a lot of differences. How Buddhism is portrayed is another matter, but the rules set by Buddha were based on something or the other, weren't they revealed to him? No. He did not claim that they were revealed to him. He achieved his own realization by meditation and contemplation. About Jainism, it was just a rebellion on Hinduism by Mahavira. I have no much information on it. Jainism and Buddhism predated what we know today as Hinduism. They were rebellions against vedic rituals. But what is Atheism? A lack of belief in a deity. Who started atheism? If you are asking who first doubted the existence or potency of an all-powerful creator god, then I think it is the person who wrote the last verse of the creation hymn of the Rig Veda in the middle of the second millennium BCE. Other early atheists were Charvaka, Prodicus, Democritus, the Buddha, Mahavira, Diagoras, Anaxagoras and Socrates. What are its principles? You can read about them in the Buddhist, Jain, ancient Greek and heterodox Upanishadic literature, and in the Brihaspati Sutra. The principles are quite diverse and extensive. Do they believe in life after death as most religions believe? Buddhists and Jains do. But Lokayata followers, the Greek atheists and most modern atheists don't. Or are they believers of Darwin's principle of evolution that man came from monkey? Evolution is a scientific theory supported by overwhelming evidence. It has nothing to do with atheism or theism. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Development Plans - Our own fault
--- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a very interesting post because Goa's inability to leverage a piece of the Central Budget pie is entirely our fault. If we chose to send Churchill to Delhi to represent us, than all that we can truly hope for is a bounty in smuggled watches. We have Churchill in Delhi, we have Micky (Mouse) Pacheco as Minister of Agriculture, we have the most corrupt Babush Monserrate holding the Town and Country Planning portfolio. How can Goa ever begin to move into the 21st century. Do these people understand fiscal dynamics, do they understand investment functions, multiplier effects, tax subsidies, fiscal discipline. How can one manage an economy and move it ahead when one's credentials are either smuggler or former Tarvotti. Is this line-up the best that Goa has to offer? We have ourselves to blame. While the rest of India marches on, we who were at one time renowned for our education and culture are steadily become the backwaters of India. --- John Eric Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Elisabeth, It is not necessary for the politicians to know any of the subjects, as long as they're good at playing politics - they have to be suitably advised by their knowledgable advisors to guide the rest of the team - only caveat is that the advisors have to be extremely good at their job and not have an axe to grind. A case in point is the CEO of a technological company - he/she might be nuts at technology, but is very good at business. The IT manager guides the IT policies of the business, as so do the other managers in other fields. However, you have a very good point re credentials. Unfortunately, the national parties are so deeply afflicted by corruption, that it would be indeed difficult to find one person within the parties who has never indulged in it. And the Congress Party seems to want to go after winnable politicians rather than honest politicians, and the result is what you see - winnable because they have the muscle to do as they please, and the ones with the muscle are unfortunately those that have the least brain-power. As in the rest of India, it appears that only gang-leaders (dadas) are the most attrative to Congress. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - VIC - Australia. On Yahoo!7 Answers: Real people ask and answer questions on any topic. http://www.yahoo7.com.au/answers.
[Goanet] CA/PS VII: THE VALUE OF ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060322--7m22airport.html New airport talks cover old ground By Jeff Ristine UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER March 22, 2006 A Florida congressman dropped into San Diego, assembled all the major viewpoints in the airport search, heard a two-hour capsule of the fractious debate and left everyone with this advice yesterday: I encourage you to work together, said U.S. Rep. John L. Mica, chairman of the House aviation subcommittee. Maybe you can come up with some creative solutions. Maybe. But the Airport Authority, military, political, business and community figures - assembled on neutral ground for the first time in the site-selection project - stuck pretty much to the themes and arguments that have divided various factions in the final months of the process. Business leaders don't want to settle for a congested, single-runway airport as the regional economy grows. The military says joint-use proposals for Miramar, North Island and Camp Pendleton are inherently unsafe. And the airport authority wants a little understanding as it tries to figure out how to meet air-passenger travel demands in 2030. It's a very polarizing issue in our community, said Xema Jacobson of the San Diego County Regional Airport Authority. We have to make sure we can do whatever proposal is on the ballot. But Filner, who favors Imperial County for a regional airport, linked to San Diego by a maglev (magnetic levitation) high-speed train, said afterward that something was gained just by getting everybody in the same room. Major Gen. Michael R. Lehnert, commanding general for seven western Marine Corps installations, said tactical fighters and commercial jets, a scenario being studied for Miramar and North Island, don't mix. It would be like putting a Greyhound bus and a Formula 1 racer on the same track, Lehnert said. Compare this to what passes for a roundtable discussion over Dabolim/Mopa. Have a committee with Goa's CM, 3 MPs and two bureaucrats. Make it decide whether Goa should have Mopa OR Dabolim. Then have the recommendation reviewed by the PM who would probably consult the Defense Minister and Civil Aviation Minister. And the PM's final decision in all probability would be go ahead with Mopa as is, where is! What a pathetic national decision making scenario!
[Goanet] *** GOA NEWS: Mar 23/06 - Goa budget, Free education loan, Paedophiles, Israeli held, Sports...
*** GOA NEWS: Mar 23/06 - Goa budget, Free education loan, Paedophiles, Israeli held, Sports... *** Thrust to agriculture, infrastructure in Goa budget Buoyed by the 33 per cent growth in the collection of commercial taxes triggered by the implementation of the value added tax (VAT) regime. More at: http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/23/stories/2006032305830700.htm *** Duo remanded in priest's murder The two UP natives accused in the gruesome murder of Fr Eusebio Ferrao - Amit Shukla and Manish Dubhey - were on Wednesday remanded to 14 days police custody by Judicial Magistrate First Class Margao, S J Natekar. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11451 *** Suspects are here... but where is the knife? Deputy Inspector General of Police Ujjwal Mishra on Wednesday said the kitchen knife used by the accused in the murder of Macazana Parish Priest Fr Eusebio Ferrao would be the main evidence in the murder case. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11452 *** Interest free education loan disbursed to students in Goa Goa Education Minister Luizinho Faleiro disbursed an amount of Rs 29.21 lakhs to 85 beneficiaries under the interest free educational loan scheme for higher studies here. More at: http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200603231221.htm *** Indian tourist hotspot cracks down on paedophiles Goa is every tourist's dream vacation. But there is a darker side. Cases after cases of paedophilia involving tourists have been reported from the state. An alarmed Goa government has now passed a Children's Act. More at: http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/129705/1/1893 *** Narvekar breached House rules: Parrikar While in the heat of the moment, Health Minister Dayanand Narvekar announced that Ponda will get a new hospital. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11464 *** Dhavlikar grilled over appointment of PWD TAs The Opposition grilled PWD Minister Ramkrishna Dhavlikar over appointment of 69 engineers who were taken as Technical Assistants in PWD since June 2005. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11461 *** Israeli held with drugs at Vagator The Anti-Narcotic Cell of Goa Police on Wednesday arrested Israeli national, Yosef Ben Soshan, 45, with narcotic drugs worth Rs 2.07 lakh from near China Town Bar Restaurant in Vagator-Bardez. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11460 *** Trio held for duping youth Three persons have been arrested in Chennai on charges of duping 18 youth from Goa. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11463 *** Mickky assures to replace veterinarian Animal Husbandry and Veterinary Services Minister Mickky Pacheco today assured the House that he would replace the veterinary doctor Dr Raikar who is alleged to be harassing beef stall owners in the State. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11462 *** Vetting of Central hospital MoU by month-end: govt The vetting of MoU forwarded by Central Government in respect to Central Hospital Tisk Usgao will be completed by the end of this month. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11465 *** Margao celebrates World Water Day without water Water scarcity in some parts of the city marked World Water Day in Margao on Wednesday. This time, the culprit was not the Selaulim water pipeline, but a water distribution line that broke down on the Abade Faria road in the wee hours of Wednesday. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11469 *** Government to 'shelter' orphans, disabled There's good news for mentally and physically challenged sections of the society as well as orphan children. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11466 *** 'Computerised, digitalised birth, death records soon' Archives Minister Ramkrishna Dhavlikar stated that the computerisation and digitalisation of records of birth and death started some time back will be completed in the next two-three months. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11468 *** Casinos, water sports out of luxury tax The government has proposed to remove services like casinos, water sports and boat cruises from the levy of luxury tax and make them taxable under entertainment tax. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11470 *** Rural development, sports likely to get a major boost Rural development, higher education and sports are likely to get a major boost as per listed in the budget today. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11471 *** Players hope for a rethink Fransa-Pax Football Club players fear they will end up as the sacrificial lambs at the altar of Mickky Pacheco's forced decision to disband the club. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11443 *** It's all over for Fransa-Pax Fransa-Pax Football Club has shut shop. Well, almost. Angered by the All India Football Federation's Appeal Committee decision not to replay their controversial match against Air India. More at: http://oheraldo.in/node/11444 Compiled by: Avelino D'Souza
