[Goanet] Seabird' phase-II to start soon at Karwar - Goodbye to Dabolim?
Not so fast, Avelino. Phase I has taken 7 years. Phase II has to get clearance in March. Its anybody's guess as to how long it will take to complete. The prognosis is not good after the 7 year gestation period of Phase I. But an airport is likely to figure in it after all thanks to the initiative of the Karnataka Govt. The "fllightless seabird" (in Nasci Caldeira's choice phrase) will in fact take wing some day. Now its up to the Goa govt to persuade the Navy to shift flight training from Dabolim to that airport. It wont be easy because the Navy has entrenched its position on that score by fixing up training for the MIG-29Ks at Dabolim. And just as the Sea Harrier's aircraft carrier was based in Bombay, the one for the new planes will be based at Seabird. The Navy is very "strategic" in land and base matters, that's for sure. Cheers.
[Goanet] Your Article was an Excellent Summary of Goa's Past and Present Predicaments
Hi Valmiki, Your article below was an excellent summary of Goa's past and present predicaments. All Goans have one last chance to get out of this mess and usher in Good Governance - to back the most highly educated Goan politician and an authority on Good Governance IITian Manohar Parrikar to become the CM after the upcoming May elections - despite the mud-slinging that has been initiated by the Goan Gaon Goon Chors who are making a Gaan of Goa and their backers from as far away as Melbourne, Down Under ! If any Goan has any problem with Manohar Parrikar or any of his policies in the past, they should go and meet him personally, voice their grievances and clarify any misunderstandings ! Only when we have the best educated, corruption-free CM in the nation can we be sure to have finally attained the much elusive State of Goa Dourada (Golden Goa) ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida currently touring India. - Message: 5 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 06:18:40 +0530 From: "Valmiki Faleiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Goa deserved better To: "goanet" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original DID WE DESERVE THIS? By Valmiki Faleiro To those of my esteemed readers averse to Goa?s politics, my unreserved apologies. I?m aware our political scene is akin to a cesspool that any sane Goan would prefer to avoid with a long bargepole. But I am also painfully aware that our insulated attitude won't help us, or Goa, one bit. I've decided to share -- hopefully, to some effect -- the little I know from having once been close to Goa's political circus, as a journo, and, briefly, as a minor participant, as my hometown's Municipal President. My two cents, as they say. Beginning this first Sunday in Goa's Election Year to the one following Election Day, this column will pan to the politics Goa witnessed in the years since freedom from the 451-year colonial yoke, her Legislative Assembly, and its key players. And on what we, as sensible Goans, now need to do. I'll begin with a general thought... Goa deserved better. We are a tiny littoral enclave blessed by Mother Nature with a bountiful combination of natural resources, both of land and of water -- natural beauty, forests, mineral ore, a 105-kms coastline, riverine tidal bodies, abundant monsoons, even mudflats for fields made from the sweat and wisdom of our ancestors -- and, above all, an intelligent people. A "101 CyberGoans Honours List" published this Jan 1 by our outstanding journalist, Frederick Noronha, throws a pleasantly surprising sampling of contemporary Goans who rose to the top in their respective fields, worldwide. As I've said before, Goans have shone, generally, when outside Goa. Back home, four and half centuries of foreign rule had some plus points, but also a stark lack of opportunity -- in education and employment for the Goenkar.? Goa thus became a land of migrants. Our forebears migrated to Belgaum, Dharwar, Pune, Bombay and beyond, and overseas to Portugal and yonder, to get a decent education for their children and jobs for themselves. The adventurous found worthwhile avenues aboard ships and in Portuguese and British Africa. Wherever they went, Goans carved a niche. Be it as cooks or butlers, clerks or musicians, doctors or scientists. Then came 1961. As compared to the centuries before, almost overnight, educational avenues opened in Goa. We produced matriculates and craftsmen, engineers and postgraduates -- but without matching openings for gainful employment. Goa continued to be a land of migrants. Providence opened the Persian Gulf and several other avenues that today sustain a large part of the Goan populace. But a land of expatriates, we continue to be. From 1963, we held our destiny in our own hands. For 27 years as a centrally-funded Union Territory. And as an independent State since May 30, 1987. The result? Our balance sheet hardly balances. A miniscule State as our `Supurl?lem Goem?, easy to administer and govern, should have been, 45 years after liberation, India's sparkling showpiece. Far from such an Utopian dream, we are today a mess of bad roads, bad power, bad water supply, bridges that threaten to tumble and pipelines that burst like bubbles. All diligently superintended by the worst ever governance -- crowned by corruption at every level in every public office, the type never seen before. Led by men to whom politics is a job, profession and career, combined. Corruption in public life has been central to Goa's misfortune. Goa has amongst the best population, literacy, social and economic indices in the country. We are a tiny state, comparable to the size of a taluka in an average Indian State. We have a huge bureaucracy that should have yielded an administration superior to Switzerland's. Yet, Goa languishes. We survi
[Goanet] Must you come to Goa this time?
Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami wrote: During the new year weekend it looked like the whole of Delhi descended in goa. Went for a cocktail party with a friend at someone's mansion. guess what, I was the only Goan Only Delhities and a couple of government people. Cecil: And you were expecting what? Kunbis and gawdas from Salcete? Surely you were aware of what the composition of the guests would be? That you still chose to go means you are comfortable in their company. Or aren't you? Reminds me of another woman on this forum who went to a party at Fundacao Oriente and was shocked to hear Portuguese being spoken! - Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami: Oh, goa is so beautiful? but the local men wear swimsuits, I think they meant khastis. I kept quiet, and then remarked. this is what they wear in Goa. Do you expect goans to swim in full atire and women to wear saris? they kept quiet. Cecil: I didn't quite get what you are trying to say. Firstly it is very rare to see Goan men wearing kashtis and secondly yes, many Goan women do use a saree as a swimsuit. Go to Baga in may and see for yourself. What is the point you are trying to make? -- Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami: Another very close friend, flew in from Delhi on the 31st to attend Vijay Mallaya's party and Babu Keni's party at the Mandovi. flew back on the 1st. It really sickened me. Cecil: Why did it sicken you? If you went to Mumbai to attend a friend's wedding or party and flew back on the next day should it sicken someone else? If these friends' behavior sicken you why do you still maintain your friendship with them? --- Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami: How can people spend that kind of money, why can't they donate to some needy individuals, to the poor and underpriveleged? Cecil: And how do you know that they are not donating to worthy causes? Also keep in mind that everything is relative. Somewhere on the hillside in Betim is a poor carpenter's assistant who looks at your lifestyle and says the same thing of you. But most important Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami is to clarify what exactly your point is. At the GoaNetter's met you went out of your way to drive home the point that Goans are not in any way superior to Indians in general. It seemed incongruous at the time that a GoaNetter at a GoaNetters meet is going out of her way to unfavourably compare Goans with "Indians". But given that there was sense in what you said (despite it not being the ideal venue for such a discussion) nobody objected for the simple reason that your voice at least helped to partially drown out the two Australian-Goans (one not even subscribed to GoaNet!) at the meeting who seemed to have an aggressive agenda of their own which nobody else could identify or sympathize with. Anyway Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami, do you resent the non-Goans visiting Goa? Or do you resent only Delhites? What specifically is your standpoint and what solutions do you proffer? Cheers! Cecil P.S. I have known Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami as a friend for a long time. Before the crusading Joan of Arc takes up cudgels uninvited, this is not an attack on Ana Maria, but just seeking for clarification of a publicly stated viewpoint that is contradictory. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/618 - Release Date: 1/6/2007
[Goanet] Civilian aircraft may cruise into defence airspace
The 125 include civil enclaves like Dabolim, numbering about 30. Anyway, the main purpose of the proposal is to expand the airline/airport network . I dont think the activities at existing civil enclaves would be touched. In fact the military wants to even keep the civil enclaves out of the purview of the proposed Airport Economic Regulatory Authority (AERA). In addition it wants to have a member on the committee and it wants to have a say in the appointment of the chairman and civilian member. Delays can be expected all along the line due to this foot dragging.
[Goanet] *A MERRY MAKING CONVENTION*
Plz Nasci don't pass your judgment sitting down under (the carpet) For you to know all thats going on in Goa! you need to be there. Just 1 question! when did you last come to Goa? & what have you done other than criticizing others? Atleast Aires got the 50% concession for all student commuters travelling until this day. hAVE a nICE dAY Seb > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:45:47 +1100 (EST) > From: Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Goanet] Aires Rod, Trouble Maker and Non Achiever? > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear all goanetters, > > I wish Goanetters would comment on the above named > topic. > I learn that this Aires Rod who was recently escorted > out by Police from The Goan NRI Convention, is nothing > but a 'Mischief Maker; he is sectarian in the cause he > purports to support, and does not really support or > lead on any cause for the whole of Goa. > > He rejected Bainguinim as a Garbage disposal area and > led a movement against it without suggesting an > alternate and viable site; hence there is no > 'progress' in Goa. Now he tried the 'hijack' the Coan > NRi convention and its agenda that has been > thoughtfully and paistakingly arranged by eminent > Eduardo Faleiro and his staff, and colleagues in the > Govt. of Goa. > > Did Aires have another better plan or agenda for the > Convention? NO! All he wanted was to make 'Trouble', > and gain prominence; not knowing that Goans have by > now seen through his 'modus operandi', and thereby > made himself Notorious! > > I learnt that he as student leader revolted and > rioted for concession tickets on public transport etc, > and managed to get the concessions; Then he went to UK > as an ESCAPE from his real failures? He came back from > UK, (Probably did not achieve anything there?) only to > make more Trouble in Goa! He made a cause of flouting > helmet regulations for two wheeler riders etc., a rule > and law that is internationally followed and imposed! > How much more 'corny mischief can be tolerated by the > Community! > > Imagine! and all this without any 'political power > base! > > This above is my opinion! I would like goanetters to > give their own opinions and comments on the issues > raised! Can Goa allow any person to hijack Goa's > Progress and attempts at finding solutions to its many > problems? No! There has to be a better way. > What is it? > > Nasci Caldeira > Melbourne Down Under. >
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 19
Aires comes from a revolutionary background. During the ticket concessions in the seventies he managed to bring down the communalist dictatorship of the Bandodcars. At the moment Aires is in the wrong direction and not doing enough for Goa, I feel he should head the Quit Goa movement. BC I learn that this Aires Rod who was recently escorted out by Police from The Goan NRI Convention, is nothing but a 'Mischief Maker; he is sectarian in the cause he purports to support, and does not really support or lead on any cause for the whole of Goa. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] A Chrsitmas Gift to Ballu Velip
Hi Tony, Many thanks for your note and I appreciate your effort in putting together and presenting the gift for Ballu Velip which must have taken your time. Got your email re the costs and pls confirm I can send it to you by Paypal. I ask this as you did not refer at all to my proposal as to how I can re-imburse you. With regards, Roland. On 1/2/07, Anthony M Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As requested by Canada-based Roland Francis, when I visited Ballu's place with the Christmas/New Year gift-package (A kg Swiss cake from Monginis, a bottle of wine, a home-made bouquet, a Christmas/New Year card and cash Rs 500/-) a few curious children followed me to his house. I gave a one-minute introductory to the whole thing and presented the gifts to Ballu to the applause of the little childen and three elderly neighbours gathered there for this auspicious moment. Ballu was obviously happy. Asked to say something Ballu thanked me and the sender of the gifts and said in Konkani "I am happy to receive recognition from another part of the world for my humble services. God bless you." Tony Martin ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Roland Francis
Re: [Goanet] Must you come to Goa this time?
--- Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > During the new year weekend it looked like the whole > of Delhi descended in > goa. Went for a cocktail party with a friend at > someone's mansion. guess > what, I was the only Goan Only Delhities and a > couple of government people. -- Dear Ana Maria, Forgive my ignorance but why would it be disturbing to attend a party where you're the only Goan? Very often not only am the lone Goan/Indian at a party or in an office but I'm the only person with brown skin. This is the world we live in. It's multi-racial and multi-cultural. We can't be turning back the clock to a time when everyone knew the bandmaster and the cook at the wedding. Incidentally, I would love to be at a party with cosmopolitan Delhite women and men. I've always found Goan women to be slightly insipid. Goan men on the other hand are riveting after three kingfisher beers and fascinating after the band starts playing Mambo No. 5. Then as morning draws near, he whispers in your ear that Liberty cruise liner is departing the very next day and wishes you adieu. :) Selma __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Changing The System
Right on Eric and with reference to what Radhakrishnan, Sachin and Naguesh wrote about the CBI; Every retired senior Indian police officer who has written a book about their career (I have read them all) bemoans the fact that the police is structured to work under the orders of the Home Department - whether Central or State. This is a colonial hangover of the days when the British needed that kind of hierarchy for the smooth implementation of their rule in India. That worked in the days when the British administrators and all levels of police were known for their honesty. They say that the only way the police can function effectively in India today is to be cut off from all connections to the politicians. The politician-police-criminal nexus that exists today is not of police making. Intelligent, honest and upright officers plead that the Police Service should be made independent of Government. This happens in Canada and other less than Canada developed countries too. Their budget should be separately allocated and direction should be through policy dictated under independent civilian oversight consisting of men of repute from all walks of life on fixed terms as nominees. This body will also take care of their well being which means a decent salary and living benefits that do not make them require to look elsewhere. This is much more affordable to the country and the local govt than the present state of affairs that results in grave monetary and social costs. Their ultimate overseer will of course continue to be the judiciary. More honest police officers will do their jobs much more efficiently when they know they have been promoted or placed in a posting on merit. When they know that doing their jobs as it should be done for the good of the community and country does not mean a sudden transfer to a backwater from which advancement will never come. In today's India (and I know the workings of the police not just from books alone), senior officers who are upright cannot discipline their subordinates or even their fellow seniors who are openly violating police codes, due to political interference. These subject to discipline officers and men run to the politicians who are more than happy to interfere knowing that the complainants will be beholden to them from then on. I personally was witness to an incident in Bombay years ago when Gopinath Munde was the state home minister. I was present in a senior officers cabin when he received a note from Munde telling him to drop a particular case he was investigating. This upright officer told me he routinely tore such all notes from his political superiors even though he got constant flak from the Commissioner. However, this note was from the biggest boss. He had two choices. Again tear up the note or just phone Bal Thackeray who was Munde's nemesis although both Shiv Sena and the BJP (Munde's party) made up the coalition government at that time. However being the man this officer was, he just tore up the note as he was used to doing. A month later, this officer was transferred to Nasik and made to report to a far more junior rank. On 1/6/07, John Eric Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The deadline the Supreme Court gave the States for affidavit on Police Reforms is reported to be end December 2006. Many States including Goa have not yet replied.Those who did, disagreed by and large ,on the grounds that the Cabinet is responsible for Law and Order, and being elected representatives,they do not want the opposition or others to have a say in Police matters!
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 2, Issue 17
Goa has its own top players who under poor conditions did very well. GK Alexander Remedios, The Crasto brothers who could have easily made any team, Michael Fernandes top CH. All the these played for Goa as Junior Nationals and the best showing was in 1978. BC Now this is Leo's list of the Top Goan hockey players of his time. There may be others of late, Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Pravasi Bharatiya Divas begins today
Pravasi Bharatiya Divas begins today Press Trust of India New Delhi, January 7, 2007 With an aim of encouraging Indian diaspora to be part of socio-economic development in India, the government will have three-day face-to-face with overseas countrymen from Sunday to discuss opportunities available. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh will inaugurate the 'Pravasi Bharatiya Divas' (PBD) that will seek to sustain and nurture the symbiotic relationship between India and its diaspora to address the development challenges that the country faces. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/5967_1890681,00160006.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070107/4a42d221/attachment.gif
[Goanet] Appreciating Joegoauk
When I came on Goanet in the third trimester last year, my first reaction on seeing the name Joegoauk was; who is this Joe gawking at? I even thought, doesn't this fellow know the spelling of gawk? After a few posts, I realized his name was meant to be Joe Goa UK. Joe is the guy who keeps us informed of what is happening in Goa, mainly via pictures. Joe knows that a picture is worth a thousand words. Originally his posts were very economical in wordage. Just a sentence or two as introduction to his picture links that followed. However of late he has opened up and writes his opinions about what he is seeing. And that to me is very welcome. Joegoauk is the salt of the Goan earth. The quintessential Goan of my youth that I remember as being available to every one's need. The guy who would go to the pharmacy to bring you your prescriptions when you couldn't do it. The man who was there for every village social, shaking hands and showing you his happiness to meet you - and really meaning it. The chap you would meet for every feast - as interested in meeting others as he was interested in paying God homage at mass. I don't know what drives Joegoauk to do the things he does. Whether it is covering the Colva Fama or telling us about IFFI or detailing the Global Goan Convention or just taking and showing pictures of the Anjuna Flea Market, or the beaches and hotels, or some discordant scenery that irks him or maybe an eroded ceremonial centuries old gate leading to a village, he does it all and he lets us see it wherever in the world we are, in whatever mood his pictures have caught us in. As they say of good reporters, Joegoak does not make the news he just shows it. And he is no paid reporter. Just does it because he does it. I don't even know whether he likes doing it, running from pillar to post to let us in on what we would never know, or whether he does it because he knows we will somehow be the better for what he is doing. Thank you Joegoauk. Sometimes we go through life never really appreciating what has been placed before us. You must know that I appreciate what you do and I give you a heartfelt Goan hug. I know many of our readers love what you do too, and how wonderful it would be if they could just say a line or two to show you that they enjoy it as much as I do. Roland.
[Goanet] Changing The System
The deadline the Supreme Court gave the States for affidavit on Police Reforms is reported to be end December 2006. Many States including Goa have not yet replied.Those who did, disagreed by and large ,on the grounds that the Cabinet is responsible for Law and Order, and being elected representatives,they do not want the opposition or others to have a say in Police matters! A Parallel could be seen in our Ministers attitude regarding Tree cutting in Mira Mar, Panaji, and the way the Goa Regional Plan 2011 has been finalised? I understand Goa has not yet formed a representative Committee to discuss these much needed and vital Police reforms! The ghastly crimes now headlined in every media about scores of missing children long since reported to the Police in Uttar Pradesh, the culprit, well known and affluent , having been in their net interviewed and let off twice, the soaring crimes not being tackled due politician criminal nexus, and the spine chilling fallout now being investigated,should shock the establishment in every State, as it did the nation and hasten Police reforms on the guidelines explicitly given by the learned judges of our highest judicial forum.The public,Police, and the judicial establishment are desperately waiting , whilst the politicians keep fiddling and dilly dallying! The two NRIs who walked out of their convention at the Kala Academy, the returning of delegate fee to advocate Aires Rodrigues and preventing him to attend, are symptoms of the malaise of our rotten system, still working in boxes. People who dare are few and far between, and so far, easily cast off/eliminated by the System. But we require out of the box solutions, and the internet will galvanise people to throw out the successful fossils who command/demand our respect and compliance. I think the time has come for less of lighting the traditional lamp, and bullshit , and more of listening/welcoming all views and criticisms, because those who want to keep the lid on boiling sentiments and public anger , specially of the suppressed poor and marginalised, will be blown to smithereens. Isn't the state of our present world and terrorism enough evidence?!
Re: [Goanet] Goa minister resigns - will CBI raids follow?
Sachin, RKN, CBI conducted raids against Isidore, when he defected from the Congress. Once he rejoined the Congress Party, the case seems to have disappeared into thin air! As I said in my original posting, there were rumours that Digamber Kamat was threatened with CBI raids if he did not join the Congress Party. As for Babush, there are rumours that he and Churchill are ready to bolt and form a third front, grounds enough for "intimidation and intervention" by the CBI! RKN, Are any of our politicians corrupt, at all? :-)) Recently the CBI and its courts absolved Laloo Prasad Yadav in the fodder case!! CBI tends to be conveniently 'used' by the party in power at the Centre, to serve its political needs! Naguesh Bhatcar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Cut Politicians Politically - New Mantra for 2007
"Cut Politicians politically - New Mantra for 2007" On the concluding day of NRI convention Governor Jamir appealed to authorities in Goa to "Refrain from ideas of developing Goa on lines of Singapore and Dubai. He also appealed to preserve Goa's unique identity" While, Chief Minister Rane emphasized from secretariat saying "My government is committed to maintain the Forests and Tree-covers of Goa & for strict obedience to CRZ. All violations to these rules would be dealt with very sternly." Both the appeals are questionable and more surprising because they are aired only after realizing the mass unrest taken place in Goa on account of notified Regional Plan 2011 (RP). Instead of just speaking why is our CM not seen in action? This is what every Goan asks other fellow Goa. Rane why don't you go round Goa with your "Watchful Eyes" wide open! Get you convinced about massive violations of all the rules and regulations going on in Goa under cover of RP? Or at least have a look on those "Violations" which have been already brought to your attention by different Goans; Goa Bachav Abheyan (GBA) and other NGOs. Why are you not initiating actions, on the persons involved in violations of rules and regulations? To the best of our knowkedge you have to initiate actions first only on two Monster Giants - one is who is dreaming of becoming Chief Minister on his own muscle and money power and the second is the one who caries your GENE. These two are the mega giants involved in mega deals and massive destructions in Goa! When you cannot control just two of these persons, Goans wonder how you will control that "Alibaba" enjoying his retirement at Dona Paula at the cost of Goans & those 40 "Chores (MLAs)"? Why don't you admit to Goans that your hands are tide to take any such actions? Mr. CM you proved it time and again that it's "Not your Cup of Tea anymore" you must step down - this is the truth, this is the reality and you must admit it. At least this year we Goans have fully understood your limitations for not initiating any actions on violations that are going on! This year, most Goans have therefore decided to felicitate you and honor you with two titles "The Paper Tiger of year 2007" & "Representative of Three Monkeys" Considering all the things going on under Rane's rule "Cut Politicians politically" - a great thinking logic shared with me by one Goan erudite professor - is too apt a philosophy to be adopted by all Goans OR else Goans will have to see Singapore and Dubai in Goa achieved with massive violations of all the rules and regulations and creating irreparable ecological imbalance. Dr. U. G. Barad Margao - Goa
[Goanet] Irresponsible Governance
Wonders never cease in our wondeful Goa! Newspaper headlines proclaim:"Government Orders Scrutiny of Regional Plan!" We all thought that the Plan had been discussed/circulated in the Cabinet and, after due scrutiny,it had been notified in the Official Gazette in November 2006. This is the least one would expect from a responsible body such as the Cabinet, particularly in view of the vital impact which the enactment will have on Goa's very future. It is basic management practice to have such plans formulated by the planners after public discussion and consultation with the stake-holders concerned, after which they are put up to the concerned authority (in this case, the Cabinet) where they are expected to be thoroughly studied and scrutinised before being approved and notified. It is only in our wonderland of Goa that the procedure is made to stand on its head and reversed! The Plan is first notified and then subjected to scrutiny by the very peolple who formulated it in the first place! Former test cricketer Mohinder Amarnath is reported to have called the Selection Committee "a bunch of jokers." Applying the same epithet to our powers-that-be would amount to an insult to jokers! Satyameva Jayate! Benaulim, Goa: 6th. Jan.2007 ---Tony Correia-Afonso. * * Tony Correia-Afonso 542 Pulvaddo,Benaulim, Goa 403716, India. Phone:91-832-2772063
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Is it a Christian value to abuse other religion on public forum such as this? Is it a crime to worship nature? Cheers JR Hinduism and Hindu religious do not yet comprehend what 'God' really is. They make a mockery of themselves by believing that any thing and everything is god except the harijan? If one believes in God, then where is the need to worship animals? How much more ridiculous can this get? Is this not so?? . Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Down Under.
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Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone else said that the charge was Rs. 250. The > website still claims that it is only Rs. 170. The > mechanism for generating income is a tried and > tested > one, both in India and abroad. Thousands of faith > healers, psychics and self-help gurus use it as we > speak. The miraculous publicity brings in the > throngs. > Donations and sale of books and souvenirs compounds > the income. Life is good. Santosh, Fortunately, here in Canada, the sick have access to the best medical treatment known to man. However, unfortunately, sometimes man's knowledge is lacking. As such, there are large charitable foundations dedicated to giving sick children a "last wish." Many of these children choose to go to an American camp. When they return, some kids develop a new lease on life. Some return completely rejuvenated and confound medical personnel with their recovery. This phenom is carefully studied and the recovery process of the children carefully monitored. The camp the kids to to? Disneyland. Mervyn3.0 PS. I do not own any Disney stock. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Pota and Sai Baba
Hi Goans, Santosh Wrote: Hope is clearly being sold here. I submit to you that even the mildest scientific scrutiny of these miracles would prove that it is false hope. What we are witnessing is not spirituality, but a spiritual business based on deception and false advertisement. This is also true of miracle-mongering Hindu godmen like Satya Sai Baba. Cheers, Santosh - Afra Says, With modern technology (ie) the video camera. Sai Baba's miracles (slight of hands) have been caught on camera. He is now getting old and no more PUBLIC miracles are shown. Besides, he produced gold chains out of thin air only to be present them to the Dignitaries and Ministers who already HAD gold chains, what about the hungry in India? Afra.
Re: [Goanet] Must you come to Goa this time?
Ana Maria: Why did you go for the cocktail party? To paraphrase VM, "Must you come to (Delhi-oriented) cocktail parties this time (of the year)? Also I would like to comment on one of the comments you made at the ICT-for-D debate (if you will excuse me for taking ideas from one forum to another, no malice meant): It's easy to blame Delhites for all our (actual, exaggerated or perceived) ills. What about Goan involvement themselves? For selling their lands, for tolerating poor governance, for not using their brain power to challenge wrongs intelligently, for wanting everything of the "good life" and yet aggressively critiquing the flip side of the capitalist coin when it cuts into us the wrong way? For not standing up to the crooks and manipulators (not just politicians!) in our society? For lionising the very same people who makes such a large-scale 'sell out' so easy? For professing a love for Goa, and yet sitting half-way around the globe and only adding to the pressures that mount on the resources and people of Goa, by their very actions? For patronising the very same land-speculators lobby whom we decry all the time? FN On 06/01/07, Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This refers to the article which Vivek Menezes wrote in the goanet. Its excellent. Congratulations Vivek. During the new year weekend it looked like the whole of Delhi descended in goa. Went for a cocktail party with a friend at someone's mansion. guess what, I was the only Goan
Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This message below is one of the greatest drawbacks of organized religion... the tendency of the followers of one faith to denigrate others. Will any Christian/Catholic member of this forum have the decency to tell Nasty that he is just PLAIN WRONG! I'm too ashamed of his statements to ask him to retract them myself. Faith is why Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to allow their children to have a life saving blood transfusion which, on occasion, has had to be court mandated to treat an deficiency in a minor. This extends to other mainstream medical procedures like skin grafts, organ transplants and even vaccinations. They would rather DIE than anger their gods by defiling their divine-wrought bodies to the extent that they honour those who have died in this way. http://www.ajwrb.org/victims/index.shtml How much FAITH can you put in such nonsense? How many of you 'faithful believers' would go to your priest before going to your doctor to treat an ailment? Do you not trust your God(s) more than your physician? Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. Message: 9 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 23:34:19 +1100 (EST) From: Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" I do not expect (that you being of Hindu background who are not used to this type of charity per se.) you to fully agree to this! If miracles or cures don't happen to you means 'U are skeptical yet! You will have at least experienced the Heights of Spirtuality, and feel happy about self! Don't have to go to Pota! but any genuine Christian Charismatic Service environment will do! Don't worry, I will ask them to waive the costs for you! How dare you compare this Phenomena with the likes of Sai Baba?? Hinduism and Hindu religious do not yet comprehend what 'God' really is. They make a mockery of themselves by believing that any thing and everything is god except the harijan? If one believes in God, then where is the need to worship animals? How much more ridiculous can this get? Is this not so?? Santosh, I did NOT want to write or comment on Hindu religious but since you brought in Sai Baba into the equation, I had to, OK?? You are the first offender, if there is any offence at all. No hard feelings! Learn Christian Theology and you will have been redeemed from hindu to agnostic to a true Christian, not a pretentious Christian! I welcome you, Santosh. Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Down Under.
[Goanet] Arthur Peter (Art) Lobo - Obituary
Some of our Goanet ex-Africa Goans may be interested in this obit. "Passed away peacefully after a courageous battle with cancer on Jan 4, 2007 at Oakville, Arthur Lobo in his 63rd year. Beloved husband of Rita. Loving father of Ian and Colin. Loved son of Clara and the late Damiao Francisco (Michael) Lobo. Loving son-in-law of the late Joseph and Daniella Cassime. Cherished brother of Merle (Terry Francis), Freda (Trevor) Tyrone (Marsha) and Christopher-John (Amy). Cherished brother-in-law of the late Doris (Charles), Neville, the late Jessie (Anton), and Patrick." Art lived in Uganda in his childhood and youth and later in Kenya. He retired from Bell Canada after 29 years of service during which it was mentioned at his eulogy, that he missed not a single day of work. Roland Francis
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular
Cornel DaCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interestingly, when I was in Jerusalem, by the > > Wailing Wall, there were Jewish men in long black > > robes publicly thanking God for (among other > > things), not making them women/female. Our travel > > guide explained their prayers --- translated into > > English for our benefit. That they were born from > > women (mothers) seemed to have escaped them! Cornel, Some people will believe anything their parents tell them. When I got married, I asked my wife if she wanted me to under go a "bris" (for her). Mind you, I did not ask her if she wanted me to under go a "ceremonial bris." I asked her if she wanted me to do the real thing. Her answer was, "God has created you perfect." I guess a "bris" is for those who are of the sad opinion that that God has created man imperfect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah Mervyn3.0 In my old age I am beginning to understand that the woman is much smarter than the man. That's right. Much smarter. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] *A MERRY MAKING CONVENTION*(attn. Francis Rod)
Hey Francis, Eduard Faleiro or any of the polis and bureaucrats are not fellow villagers of mine! And more importantly I am not not "Nasty' like you certainly are. My name, I put down as Nasci, that is short for Nascimento! Just shows how biased and 'ROD" loyal you are in this mudslinging! In this piece you Francis, have displayed your 'True Colours' vis a vis bias towards comrade Rod.! Hah Ha! You say: "the price of liberty is eternal vigilance"! But in this case, whose liberty? Who has the liberty to disrupt the liberty of those at a genuine convention?? I have nothing against Aires Rod or Francis Rod per se; but it concerns me that progress in Goa is hindered by unnecessary meddling and opposition to even good schemes! What right has this Aires Rod the brat,to try to hijack a well concieved Goan NRI Convention?? He certainly deserves 'free board and lodge' at taxpayer's expense! If your 'namesake' is so concerned about taxpayer's money, then he should and you too should pay for all of the Convention expenses! That will surely save the Goa Govt. exchequer! Where in the world are 'journalist allowed to quetion proceedings at a convention? Journalists are only allowed to put questions after the event at a properly constituted press conference! Tell, this to your Aires Rod, please. Of course you are welcome to have your say! but not welcome to call me 'Nasty'! How much 'LOW' can a 'ROD' get? You have just so belittled yourself! Nasci Caldeira. --- Francis Rodrigues wrote: > Nasty,Give it a rest!Aires may not be a saint, but > his guts, gumptionand resolve for our native land > are unquestionable. 30 years ago, he fought pitched > street-battles withriotous cops all over Goa for > student concessions stillextant today. Blindly spouting off > to support a fellow-villager is mindless. >>>Airesfights for the rights of > the visible and silent majorities. Maybe you can >>taste the 'bhakri' and 'lockup' you so easily visit >>on others. 'The price of liberty is eternal vigilance'. > Francis.. - >Nasty Caldeira:>Hey Aires > (Rod)>You are casting aspersions about the > Convention being>'Merry Making" without saying what > its agenda or>planning should have been. You are not > going to get>away with this. If I were the authority > I would have>the likes of you, who try to 'HIJACK' a > Convention,>for at least 'Three Days in Custody', > where U would be>fed some nice 'free Bakri' all at > Taxpayer's expense.>Then would you complain that > your 'lock up' is at tax>payers expense. Stop > misleading people. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Some harsh realities of Portugal in XXI century Europe
"Teotonio R. de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Source: Correio da Manhã > Lisbon, 5-1-2007 > Diaspora: A lakh of Portuguese abandon Portugal in > 2006 Growing emigration crisis > FIVE MILLION PORTUGUESE ABROAD > According to the estimates of the Obra Católica > Portuguesa das Migrações: there are 4.8 million > Portuguese residing in 121 countries the world over, > and their remittances to Portugal amount to over 2 > million euros annually. Folks, This one made me get out the old calculator. Lets see. 2 million euros divided by 4.8 million people. Hmmm. Looks like each overseas Portuguese resident remits the equivalent of a postage stamp every year. The more likely scenario is that the person who wrote this article has little access to the facts. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Fw: I am a Proud Goan from Goa, India-I am not from Portugal's Lo Estado da India
- Original Message - From: "Cornel DaCosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] I am a Proud Goan from Goa,India-I am not from Portugal's Lo Estado da India Hi Paulo I was away for a few days and am just catching up with recent posts that run into hundreds. As regards the "challenge" in your post to compare/contrast today's India with Portugal, I am afraid this is a futile task because the two countries are as different as chalk and cheese. If however, you wished to contrast them economically, then, once again, there is no real comparison---India, amidst much seeming chaos, is on the threshold, like China, of becoming a leading economic superpower and, as said by some, to be capable of even overtaking the USA economically perhaps in our lifetimes. Portugal on the other hand, is doing its bit economically within the EU of 27 independent nations and has progressed substantially in terms of GDP compared to other much poorer nations in today's EU. I repeat that, a comparison between mighty India and tiny Portugal is a futile exercise unless you can be very specific and say what you wished to focus upon. Instead, I wonder if from your extensive knowledge about the Portuguese in Goa over 451 years, you could please tell us in what way Portugal benefitted Goa during this colonial period except perhaps in encouraging the construction of European styled churches that tourists today visit, when searching for sun and the beach, apart from the few Hindu temples that survived the period. Most of my contemporaries of Goan origin are inclined to believe, in an entirely non "childish" way that, Portugal kept Goa incredibly backward compared to say British India. However, I should like to think that there is perhaps an alternative to this view, but try as I may, nobody knowledgeable seems willing to present this alternative view. Your name sake, Jose Colaco, in snippets of things he has said, appears keen to throw light on this repeated question of mine, but Goanet has not seen his flourish on this matter despite so many requests. Therefore, would the two of you perhaps join hands to provide us the kind of info that I for one am most eager to have out of sheer intellectual curiosity? I can assure you that, I have no hidden agenda in what I ask in an utterly non "childish" way and nor do I speak for Carmo or anyone else. Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: "Paulo Colaco Dias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'" Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] I am a Proud Goan from Goa,India-I am not from Portugal's Lo Estado da India >-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cornel DaCosta Sent: 03 January 2007 12:30 To: CARMO DCRUZ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! I can see that nothing changes around here. There we go again. The same childish statements from the same childish members. Well, if you cannot win, you might as well join them in being childish.So let me be childish too (it is easy enough and I still remember how to do it) and add my two cents to Carmo and Cornel: But, even these poorest countries of Western Europe (like Portugal) are far much more developed than the Republic of India, by any standards, development or economical index that you can think of... Best regards Paulo Colaco Dias.
[Goanet] Goa deserved better
DID WE DESERVE THIS? By Valmiki Faleiro To those of my esteemed readers averse to Goa’s politics, my unreserved apologies. I’m aware our political scene is akin to a cesspool that any sane Goan would prefer to avoid with a long bargepole. But I am also painfully aware that our insulated attitude won’t help us, or Goa, one bit. I’ve decided to share -- hopefully, to some effect -- the little I know from having once been close to Goa’s political circus, as a journo, and, briefly, as a minor participant, as my hometown’s Municipal President. My two cents, as they say. Beginning this first Sunday in Goa’s ‘Election Year’ to the one following Election Day, this column will pan to the politics Goa witnessed in the years since freedom from the 451-year colonial yoke, her Legislative Assembly, and its key players. And on what we, as sensible Goans, now need to do. I’ll begin with a general thought... Goa deserved better. We are a tiny littoral enclave blessed by Mother Nature with a bountiful combination of natural resources, both of land and of water -- natural beauty, forests, mineral ore, a 105-kms coastline, riverine tidal bodies, abundant monsoons, even mudflats for fields made from the sweat and wisdom of our ancestors -- and, above all, an intelligent people. A "101 CyberGoans Honours List" published this Jan 1 by our outstanding journalist, Frederick Noronha, throws a pleasantly surprising sampling of contemporary Goans who rose to the top in their respective fields, worldwide. As I’ve said before, Goans have shone, generally, when outside Goa. Back home, four and half centuries of foreign rule had some plus points, but also a stark lack of opportunity -- in education and employment for the ‘aam Goenkar.’ Goa thus became a land of migrants. Our forebears migrated to Belgaum, Dharwar, Pune, Bombay and beyond, and overseas to Portugal and yonder, to get a decent education for their children and jobs for themselves. The adventurous found worthwhile avenues aboard ships and in Portuguese and British Africa. Wherever they went, Goans carved a niche. Be it as cooks or butlers, clerks or musicians, doctors or scientists. Then came 1961. As compared to the centuries before, almost overnight, educational avenues opened in Goa. We produced matriculates and craftsmen, engineers and postgraduates -- but without matching openings for gainful employment. Goa continued to be a land of migrants. Providence opened the Persian Gulf and several other avenues that today sustain a large part of the Goan populace. But a land of expatriates, we continue to be. From 1963, we held our destiny in our own hands. For 27 years as a centrally-funded Union Territory. And as an independent State since May 30, 1987. The result? Our balance sheet hardly balances. A miniscule State as our `Supurl’lem Goem’, easy to administer and govern, should have been, 45 years after liberation, India’s sparkling showpiece. Far from such an Utopian dream, we are today a mess of bad roads, bad power, bad water supply, bridges that threaten to tumble and pipelines that burst like bubbles. All diligently superintended by the worst ever governance -- crowned by corruption at every level in every public office, the type never seen before. Led by men to whom politics is a job, profession and career, combined. Corruption in public life has been central to Goa’s misfortune. Goa has amongst the best population, literacy, social and economic indices in the country. We are a tiny state, comparable to the size of a taluka in an average Indian State. We have a huge bureaucracy that should have yielded an administration superior to Switzerland’s. Yet, Goa languishes. We survive on future-uncertain NRI remittances, limited-resource mining (even if enriches a few, and at high environmental costs) and a highly fickle industry as tourism. Our farming and agriculture is all but extinct. We depend almost entirely on neighbouring States for everything from milk and veggies to foodgrains and power. Compared to the potential, our fisheries are primitive. Goa has tottered. Why? Because we, ‘Goenkars’ in Goa, torn asunder by petty and myopic politics of caste, language, religion, and such like, elected the wrong governments. We backed the wrong horses since 1963. Goa lost on an enlightened political leadership when it was available. And on governance for the good of Goa. Through the power of our own vote. Not all is lost. This election year provides us another opportunity at course correction. To give ourselves a government that Goa deserves. As we brace for elections, let us look back at where we went wrong. Let us ask ourselves if we will repeat the mistakes over again. Or whether, as sensible Goans, each one of us will do our bit to help chart a new course ... a course this little enclave, once "Sunaparant," "Goa Dourada," whatever, cries for. (ENDS) The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at: http://www.goanet.org/index.ph
Re: [Goanet] "Fuss for New Farce" OR what's it Mr. CM?
Dear Dr. Barad, Very good and inteligent questions raised by you. Let's see if the Cheap Minister and his circus of cheap jokers care to answer. Keep up the good works, God Bless you. Regards A. Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Mission/to Selma
Dear Selma, Thanks for your wishes and apologies for my tardy reply. Your respectful disagreement notwithstanding, I can hardly see how you can put religious and scientific thought on the same footing. Organised religion evolved from tribal fears. Anything that could not be explained was attributed to God(s) and as those unknown phenomena were explained by scientific thought and experimentation, religion had to get more sophisticated to the point where today 'Heaven' and 'Hell' are no longer real threats while 'Purgatory' has been abolished. Science encourages enquiry while religion suppresses it, instead relying on 'blind faith'. There is hardly any doubt, judging from the proliferation of the multitudes of religions, that there is some evolutionary advantage to believing in a supernatural deity and an afterlife. It probably allows us to lead a semi-normal life without spending every waking moment contemplating our inevitable demise. That 'faith' has now been misappropriated to amass great wealth and/or give false hope to the terminally ill. However, that hope is all that may be available to many who have not been reconciled to the fact that our bodies are mortal and our souls are just a manifestation of the brain. Judging from the popularity of places like Pota and Lourdes, Christianity has been quite successful in propagating the myth of faith healing. In a previous post, I referred to a mainstream religion (Christian sect of Jehovah's Witnesses) who have been unable to come up with a logical theology that would protect the lives of their congregations by what we would consider today to be mainstream medical practices. Where have the checks and balances failed? Thanks for the dialogue, Kevin Saldanha Mississauga, ON. Message: 1 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:52:46 -0800 (PST) From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mission/to Kevin Hi Kevin, Good to see you back. I respect your opinions on this issue but I respectfully disagree. Religion like any body be it scientific or governmental, is a body of organised thought. This thought has the potential to be either progressive or regressive. When progressive it can greatly enhance the evolution of society, when regressive it can greatly impede it. Mainstream religions have enough checks and balances to ensure a progressive stance in the main. Its fringe elements tend to be manipulative and exploitative. That said, Christianity was a fringe element of Judaism, just as Buddhism was a fringe element of Hinduism. In the end, the legitimacy of a movement can be gauged only by whether it moves its members ideologically forward or renders them immobile. I believe Pota falls in the latter category. Take care, selma
Re: [Goanet] Pota Retreats
--- Gllenda Viegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The environment makes one feel for God and many > cures do take place. One should not write anything > against these retreats without attending the same. > Mario responds: > Glenda, I have nothing against any retreat wherever it is held, and if one chooses to go to Pota for a retreat, that's fine because it may get people away from their normal environment and become a mini-vacation as well. > However, based on the principle that God, by definition, is omnipresent, a retreat in Dharavi should be as religiously beneficial as a retreat in Pota - if one can only tolerate the pungent scents that waft over Dharavi. > I have seen people go into debt because of their belief that going to Lourdes or Fatima or Medjugorge or Pota is the only thing that will solve their problem. To me that constitutes an unfortunate misunderstanding of the fundamentals of Christian beliefs. Jesus preached and healed in the most unusual places. >
[Goanet] Goa news for January 7, 2007
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Paradise Found ; Georgina Rodgers Relaxes on Goa's Golden Beaches (RedNova) By Georgina Rodgers HURTLING along in our clapped-out 4x4 vehicle in the oppressive heat of the mid-morning sun, we swerve suddenly to avoid yet another wandering cow. In Goa, there are no road markings, few traffic lights, and seemingly no right of way. http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/790647/paradise_found__georgina_rodgers_relaxes_on_goas_golden_beaches/index.html?source=r_science *** Goa Regional Plan to be scrutinized: Rane (NDTV) Chief Minister Pratapsinh Rane on Friday said that the state Cabinet has agreed to have the controversial Goa Regional Plan 2011 scrutinised and to keep its implementation in abeyance. http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=Goa Regional Plan to be scrutinized: Rane&id=98981 *** India state minister resigns over development row in Goa (AFP via Yahoo! News) A minister in India's tourist hotspot Goa has submitted his resignation over a controversial land proposal to build six new towns across the state containing luxury hotels and business districts. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070104/sc_afp/indiaenvironmentgoapolitics_070104082613 *** The good ˜old charm of Velha Goa (Deccan Herald) If you thought Goa was all about feni, food, fiesta, siesta, sprawling palm-fringed beaches, isolated coves, islands and rivers, you are sadly mistaken. http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jan72007/sundayherald214317200714.asp *** 20 teams from all over India participated in the championship, which was organized by Goa Thangta Association under the ... (Greater Kashmir) Srinagar: The J&K Thang Ta team won 59 medals in the 13th National Thangta championship, which was held at Kalangote Goa from December 23 to 25. The team missed the chance to grab the overall championship only by 15 points and had to satisfy with runners up trophy. http://www.greaterkashmir.com/Home/ShowCat.asp?catid=3&Issueid=111&Arch= *** Night landing to be allowed at Goa airport from Jan 8 (New Kerala) Panaji, Jan 6: Following confusion at Goa airport last week due to diversion and cancellation of several flights, the Navy has agreed to extend night landing facilities to civilian aircraft from January 8. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=75529 *** Technological advancements should benefit all: Goa Governor (New Kerala) Panaji, Jan 5: Goa Governor S C Jamir today said advancements in science and technology should benefit all sectors of the economy and reach the people, especially the poor and marginalised sections of the society. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=75383 *** Goa celebrates the Three Kings Day (New Kerala) Cansaulim (Goa), Jan. 6 : Christians in Goa on Saturday celebrated the Three Kings Day marked by a church service, procession and a colourful fest to commemorate the Biblical story of the three kings' journey, bringing gifts to the baby Jesus. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=75719 *** Refrain from ideas of developing Goa on lines of Singapore: Jamir (Navhind Times) Panaji, Jan 5 Stating that the hue and cry of the people concerned with the identity and future of Goa definitely carry substance, the Governor, Mr S C Jamir today appealed to the authorities to refrain from any ideas as regards planning Goa on the lines of Singapore or Dubai, in the name of development. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=010646 *** Goa celebrates the Three Kings Day (ANI via Yahoo! India News) Cansaulim (Goa), Jan. 6 (ANI): Christians in Goa on Saturday celebrated the Three Kings Day marked by a church service, procession and a colourful fest to commemorate the Biblical story of the three kings' journey, bringing gifts to the baby Jesus. Perched on a hill, the Cansaulim Church, a centuries-old stone chapel, 24 km from capital Panaji, sprang to life as scores of devotees thronged ... http://in.news.yahoo.com/070106/139/6aw6l.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] "CHALLIS DIS ANI CHALLIS RATI"
Simon Gonsalves greets all on the occasion of the Feast of the Three Kings "CHALLIS DIS ANI CHALLIS RATI" The Konkani Lenten drama titled "Challis Dis ani Challis Rati" written and directed by popular Simon Gonsalves under his banner "God's Gift Everly Productions" . The show will held for the first time during Lent season and will feature dazzling scenes and seneries - a special talent and presentation by Simon Gonsalves who is acclaimed as the best among the Goans in Kuwait. (Simon Gonsalves) Well-known talented cast and musicians are enrolled to make this unique presentation a memorable one. So mark the date: Friday, 23rd March 2007 at 3:30 p.m. Venue: Hawalli A.C. Auditorium, Kuwait. Watch out for more details. You heard it first at http://www.goa- world.com/ http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/gulf- goans/message/ 10402 http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/gulf- goans/message/ 10155 About Simon Gonsalves: Little did anyone know that a simple lad born a few decades ago in Panchwadi would rise to be an indomitable star of the Konkani stage. An actor of exceptional talent, winner of several awards for acting, a good singer, composer and producer of Konkani audio albums, a playwright who has penned noteworthy scripts and directed many tiatros, Simon Gonsalves has entered the chronicles of tiatr history in Goa and Kuwait. In a candid chat with us, Simon, a multi-talented artiste talked about his voyage in the drama foyer in an incredibly short span of time. Simon's immense talent and stage capabilities were first noticed by his village folks when he went up the stage to participate in a Kunnbi dance for a school gathering. People, amazed at his poise and graceful stage presence, prompted him to take up acting in tiatros. Landing with his first character role of a police inspector in a village tiatro, and later Bab Agnel D'Costa's "Xapai" Simon went on excelling in every performance that followed on the stage and the Carnaval khells in which he had become a name to reckon with. With explosives of hidden talents, Simon wanted to go cross milestones with his blazing talent. Simon discovered his multi-faceted acumen when he excelled in his directorial debut venture in 3 consequent tiatros in his village, two of which were written by Bab Santan de Xelvon and the other by Reginald de Panchwadi. A meticulous eccentric perfectionist that he is, Simon personally painted the boards, (as is the practice even now, where every village advertises on a piece of painted wood/ Formica board giving details of the drama - this board is usually kept at the tinttos/main area of activity of the village). The appreciation and fame poured in from every angle except his family. Simon longed for his family's support to further his acting career. His family had cleared their stand with him, they were dead against the tiatr and tiatr world. But Simon had a mission; he had to carry the flaming torch of Konkani tiatro. He determined to change their minds with his appreciable work. A few years later, Simon moved to Kuwait for his livelihood after a fellow villager, Peter D'Souza, helped him to get a visa to Kuwait. With a heavy heart, sitting aboard the flight from Goa to Kuwait, Simon realized that he will miss his life-long passion in Kuwait. With a few tiatros being staged in Kuwait, Simon saw minimal chances of himself working on the stage. But God had other plans for him. Jeff de Assolna who knew his abilities and casted him in his tiatr "Bhik" in Kuwait. Thereafter Bab Rafael de Majorda cast him in his maiden venture "ALIZA" where Simon ignited the stage with his acting finesse. His role as an errant husband going astray teamed with Jane, another equally talented artiste of Kuwait and Betty Naz a very prominent actress of Konkani films and stage is still remembered by the tiatr audiences. With a perfect dialogue delivery matched with precise stage angles and presence left audience desiring for more of this newly developed stage persona. Later his acting career got a boost with his portrayal of negative character role in Mario de Majorda's tiatr "Anvddo" staged in December 2000. Not satisfied, Simon had his sights focussed on greater heights. He opted to test his directorial capabilities in Kuwait by participating in the one-act play competition organized by United Club of Utorda. He was pleasantly surprised to bag many awards for his one-act play "DEVACHO GHUTT DEV ZANAM". And indeed, he had outshone as an artiste, director and more importantly playwright of exceptional capabilities. Encouraged by this feat, Simon staged his first full-fledged Konkani tiatr, "TUJEA KALLZAK VINCHAR" in 2002 with artistes from Goa and Kuwait. Thereafter, he and his brother, Felix, co-directed another one-act play "Resped Diat" and bagged the second place which again reinforced Simon's position as a production unit of high calibre. Simon entertained Kuwait Goans with his novel Konkani tiatr " TUZO GHAUM, MOJEM NANV" staged on November 19, 2004. Simo
[Goanet] Chruchill Alemao to lay downpre-conditions to join NCP?? Somebody kidding??
CHURCHILL HEADS FOR DELHI TO MEET PAWAR Likely to lay down preconditions to join NCP By: Herald Reporter MARGAO, JAN 5 - Following the resignation of TCP Minister Babush Monserrate, the Congress camp has to wait and watch for further political developments to unfold in the next three days as Member of Parliament Churchill Alemao is leaving for New Delhi on Saturday. The MP will be leading a 15 member group of supporters from across the Stat e tomorrow evening and will call on Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) supreme Sharad Pawar on January 7, at around 11 am, in New Delhi. Those expected to accompany Mr. Alemao include Schedule Tribes leader and former Curtorim MLA Anton Gauncar, former MMC chairperson Ganashyam Shirodkar and former Navelim sarpanch Bishut Themudo. While Mr. Alemao and his entourage is expected to offer the Maratha strongman a handshake, sources said that the MP will also use the opportunity to call on other senior leaders before returning to Goa on January 10. Though Mr. Alemao did not specify the purpose behind his Delhi mission, sources close to him said that he will take a decision to embrace the NCP only after Mr. Pawar meets his demands. One demand that could be made is that the NCP severs ties with the Congress in Goa and he (Mr. Alemao) be allowed to take charge of the party (NCP) in the State. Sources said the MP is expected to stress on these demands as a pre-condition to join the NCP. For, an alliance between the Congress and NCP will leave the MP high and dry, especially since he has set his eyes on Navelim constituency represented by his bete noire and Industries Minister Luizinho Faleiro. That Churchill's visit to Delhi is being keenly watched is evident by the interest shown by Congressmen, who have kept their fingers crossed on whether the NCP chief Sharad Pawar will go to the extent of breaking the alliance in Goa and face the possible repercussions the decision would have on the UPA Government and in neighbouring Maharashtra. The MP's visit has also evoked interest among the leaders of the United Goanss Democraic Party (UGDP), hoping tha t the MP would finally land in the regional party if at all Alemao's plans to embrace the NCP goes haywire. COMMENTS: Dear Radharao Gracias, Sir, We at goasuraj smell your hand in designing this report. You are very right. The UGDP under your care has not only evoked interest in Churchill Alemao, but you have been grooming Churchill for a long time to make a come back to his former party, the UGDP. You think Goans are fools to believe you that the Maratha strongman would give-in to the demands of Churchill Alemao to sever ties with the Congress in Goa and to make him Goa NCP's No.1?? This is the height of imagination. And you expect us to believe that Pawar will put wily Willie to the trough? Oh! Come on, man !. We know that you have been waiting to land a perfect excuse for Churchill to go back to your UGDP. But unlike you, we are of the understanding that Churchill should have never left the UGDP. How about Babush's resignation? Is it not your brainchild too? This way, Babush gets a clean bill of health to go back to the UGDP, and which you have been planning for a long while. As a matter of fact, we do believe that Babush's hand that painted the RP-2011 red was guided by your expert hand. A sincere advice to you, though. Do not put too many eggs in your basket, for one thing, rotten ones too. You may be forced to shed the basket it self. However, we wish you all the very best in this game of your expertise. Floriano goasuraj
[Goanet] Reply to Albert
Dear Albert I laughed at the trash you wrote under 'reply to Anthony M Barreto' I also laughed at what Jerry wrote in response. But for different reasons. I laughed at your posting for its stupid and childish nature and I laughed at Jerry's reply for calling you stupid without using so many letters. TM P.S.: To FN -- If five goanet members had requested that I be summarily banned for my postings I am sure i would not be banned by the moderators but at least it would make me think three or four times before posting a message just to ensure it makes sense. As Jerry has clearly pointed out Albert Dsouza needs to be careful and consistent in what he has to say. That is if he prefers that people do not get a close look at the rocks in his head. :>) ** Anthony M Barreto aka Tony Martin Freelance Writer and Author Galgibaga, Canacona, Goa -- 403728 M: 9422390701 R: 91-0832-2632012 www.canacona.net * __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular
How does Mario's absurd logic make a connection between those Jewish men thanking their God for not making them women and the fact that an incredibly tiny (or virtually insignificant number of Israeli women have made it to the top? Has this guy got nothing better to do or something more intelligent to say? Cornel - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular > Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mario adds: Perhaps Cornel is not so thankful to be born a man as the orthodox Jews he describes:-)) I hope it has not escaped his attention that, also in Israel, a woman was the Prime Minister of the country and the current Foreign Minister is a woman.
Re: [Goanet] "Fuss for New Farce" OR what's it Mr. CM?
On 06/01/07, Dr. U. G. Barad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Fuss for New Farce" OR what's it Mr. CM? Most Goans have many questions to ask to our honorable (?) Trashy Cheap Minister (don't mind the slang used) for the New Year 2007! Most of the questions and expressions raised here are percolated down from the memories of general and middle class Goans. Their questions are based on past two years performance of Congress governance and the recent internecine publicity stunt triggered in Goa.. Dr. U. G. Barad RESPONSE: Well said Sir, may I add, that now the Minister in charge has resigned it should be well in order to scrap the proposals in total. No doubt the electorate will vote this C.M. in again come the next hustingsto further sell Goa/Goans down the Mandovi River. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] the burgeoning Indian economy.
I often read articles, especially from the Indian media ,telling us how the middle class and the economy are growing. While they sound encouraging very little is said of the plight of the poor who are also growing in numbers. This article below illustrates my point. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6233697.stm -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070106/89b41680/attachment.html
Re: [Goanet] Aires Rod, Trouble Maker and Non Achiever?
Dear Dear Nasci, I have to butt in on this malicious overtone against Aires Rodrigues, who is now a qualified High Court Lawyer. What you have picked up is nothing but a malicious campaign by Eduard Faleiro, the shameless tom tom of the congress. And there are known tout here on the net who would spread these cannard for eminent Eduard Faleiro. Aires Rodrigues wanted to force the discussion on the Regional Plan-2011 in the NRI Convention. This discussion has not only been struck off the agenda by this Congress's stooge, he has ordered the arrest of Aires Rodrigues fearing that he would have the delegates asking for this discussion. By not entertaining discussion on the RP-2011, Eduard Faleiro has proved his faithfulnes to the corrupt Congress. If I had decided to attend this NRI Convention this year, which unfortunately I didn't for being busy with my construction project, Eduard Faleiro would have had a heart attack. No goddammed policeman in Goa would have taken me out of that conventiontion . And if they had managed that , it would be my dead body. And the RP-2011 would have been discussed there whether Eduard Faleiro liked it or not. Eduard Faleiro has gotten away once by wanting to arrest Agnelo Gomes of the Goancauses distribution list, the then Trade Union leader of ZACL, for exposing his double standards. He has now gotten away with sending Aires Rodrigues out of the NRI Convention with a threat of arrest. I dare him to try that stuff with me sometime in the future if he does not wish to roll in the much that he has created. If I had attended the Convention, I would have opened out the plans of this congress government aka the nexus between Viswajeet Rane and Babush Monserrate vis a vis the beautiful, thickly vegetated hill in Arambol, overlooking the Arabian Sea, with over 40 degrees slope having been converted for a Delhi Party with a FSI of 100 per cent where the utmost FSI permissible, if at all, is 33 per cent. Who are these guys to do such things? Is it not the crores that has come in underhand? Is the Enforcement Directorate listening? Or is Manmoha Singh listening, now that he is giving us moral lectures?? And where have our Town Planners been hiding when all this conversion was taking place? Have I not been right to have said that this RP-2011 has been the work of Monserrate's and Viswajeet Rane's cooks, butlers and errand boys with senior Rane as a qualified valet?. I am on record for having told the Chief Town Planner, Mr. Morad Ahmed during the hearing on this RP-2011 (Suggestions & Objections) the he has been reduced to an errand boy by the TCP Minister, that if he was given a bag by him to go and shop for his groceries, he would have obediently done it. It is right that the Save Goa Campaign (Abhiyan) has asked for the denotification of RP-2011 and a CBI inquiry into all the illegal conversion that has taken place. Any sane person would want these two things done and have these pure looters behind bars, including Pratapsing Raoji Rane for being the acomplish number one. It is not Aires Rodrigues' job to identify an alternate garbage site. It is enough that he has protested against such site being established at Bainguinim. Is he the Town Planner or the Town Planning Minister to suggest an alternate site? What is this blooming government there for? If it cannot do the job, let it go home. Goans overseas may harbour dislike for Aires Rodrigues for whatever reasons of their own. But I say that he is a fighter for values in governance and I support him to the hilt. Should I, at some time, be confronted with his double standards (if any), then he shall have me to contend with. Until such time, I advise you to banish this trash which is obviously coming from the desk of this Congress' stooge, who has been significantly rehabilitated by his Masters in Delhi in his vaning years with this silly and uncalled for commiserate. And this coming from you, dear Nasci, I am really very sorry for you. Remember, it takes a very strong constitution not to be a permanent lecher. ** Hey Aires (Rod) You are casting aspersions about the Convention being 'Merry Making" without saying what its agenda or planning should have been. You are not going to get away with this. If I were the authority I would have the likes of you, who try to 'HIJACK' a Convention, for at least 'Three Days in Custody', where U would be fed some nice 'free Bakri' all at Taxpayer's expense. Then would you complain that your 'lock up' is at tax payers expense. Stop misleading people. You took part leading or otherwise in the 'Save Goa Campaign'?? Then why did you want to hijack the Convention and try to belittle the good efforts of Eduardo Faleiro and company? You are probably jealous that you have been unable to 'acheive' anything of the type. You are not even an NRI, and yet you tried to foul the agenda and the succes of the Convention. What a Shame! Nasci Caldeira, Melbourne Down Under. ** floriano goasuraj -
Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gabriel, > The retreats are not free. There are registration > fees for all regular and special retreats. Miracles >>are the main selling points to generate a large >>volume of customers. Testimonies of people who >>claim to have undergone various types of miraculous >>cures are being used as advertisement gimmicks. > Nasci responds: Santosh, these are only small charges to defray costs; and most of the money actually spent 'helping people who go there, in Hope, come from wellwishers and affluent people who 'give that others may recieve'. I do not expect (that you being of Hindu background who are not used to this type of charity per se.) you to fully agree to this! Santosh: >>Hope is clearly being sold here. What we are witnessing is not spirituality, but a >>spiritual business based on deception and false >>advertisement. > This is also true of miracle-mongering Hindu godmen > like Satya Sai Baba. Nasci responds: The phenomena that occurs at POTA is very real and is very different from what you are saying about Sai Baba etc.! At POTA and other like places of the type, there is no, one man leader like your Sai Baba; but thre is intense Faith and repentance and spirituality of a very high order is gained by total submission to the Will of God, and that is when The Holy Spirit then invoked, actually descends on the persons who are in a spiritual trance, so to say. That is when the 'healing and cures take place' in most cases. The person leading this service need not even be a Priest, but the belief is that God acts through this person who is just an instrument of conveyance. God does the work. The Holy Spirit Does! Go and experience it yourself; If miracles or cures don't happen to you means 'U are skeptical yet! You will have at least experienced the Heights of Spirtuality, and feel happy about self! Don't have to go to Pota! but any genuine Christian Charismatic Service environment will do! Don't worry, I will ask them to waive the costs for you! How dare you compare this Phenomena with the likes of Sai Baba?? Hinduism and Hindu religious do not yet comprehend what 'God' really is. They make a mockery of themselves by believing that any thing and everything is god except the harijan? If one believes in God, then where is the need to worship animals? How much more ridiculous can this get? Is this not so?? Santosh, I did NOT want to write or comment on Hindu religious but since you brought in Sai Baba into the equation, I had to, OK?? You are the first offender, if there is any offence at all. No hard feelings! Learn Christian Theology and you will have been redeemed from hindu to agnostic to a true Christian, not a pretentious Christian! I welcome you, Santosh. Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Down Under. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] *A MERRY MAKING CONVENTION*
Nasty,Give it a rest!Aires may not be a saint, but his guts, gumptionand resolve for our native land are unquestionable. 30 years ago, he fought pitched street-battles withriotous cops all over Goa for student concessions stillextant today. Since then he has been involved innumerous other public issues, the Ribandar molestationcase, Bainguinim and Sonsoddo pollution, Save Goaand RP-2011 cases, to name but a few. In all of thesehe has risked life and limb, with no pecuniary gainwhatsoever. Can you say the same about yourself?? Blindly spouting off to support a fellow-villager ismindless. This year's Convention was an absolutefarce. FYI, Aires has been an NRI in Canada and theUK more than you know - longer than those dubiouslocals who turned up to loot this Convention. Airesfights for the rights of the visible and silent majorities. When you can gather up even one-tenth of Aires'scourage, get your creaking carcass to Goa and fighteven one-tenth of the battles he has, then maybeyou can taste the 'bhakri' and 'lockup' you so easilyvisit on others. A little knowledge is a dangerousthing. 'The price of liberty is eternal vigilance'. Francis..>Nasty Caldeira:>Hey Aires (Rod)>You are casting aspersions about the Convention being>'Merry Making" without saying what its agenda or>planning should have been. You are not going to get>away with this. If I were the authority I would have>the likes of you, who try to 'HIJACK' a Convention,>for at least 'Three Days in Custody', where U would be>fed some nice 'free Bakri' all at Taxpayer's expense.>Then would you complain that your 'lock up' is at tax>payers expense. Stop misleading people. You took part>leading or otherwise in the 'Save Goa Campaign'?? Then>why did you want to hijack the Convention and try to>belittle the good efforts of Eduardo Faleiro and>company? You are probably jealous that you have been>unable to 'acheive' anything of the type. You are not>even an NRI, and yet you tried to foul the agenda and>the succes of the Convention. What a Shame!>Nasci Caldeira,>Melbourne Down Under. -- _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070106/fd654fdb/attachment.htm
[Goanet] Must you come to Goa this time?
This refers to the article which Vivek Menezes wrote in the goanet. Its excellent. Congratulations Vivek. During the new year weekend it looked like the whole of Delhi descended in goa. Went for a cocktail party with a friend at someone's mansion. guess what, I was the only Goan Only Delhities and a couple of government people. Oh, goa is so beautiful? but the local men wear swimsuits, I think they meant khastis. I kept quiet, and then remarked. this is what they wear in Goa. Do you expect goans to swim in full atire and women to wear saris? they kept quiet. Another very close friend, flew in from Delhi on the 31st to attend Vijay Mallaya's party and Babu Keni's party at the Mandovi. flew back on the 1st. It really sickened me. How can people spend that kind of money, why can't they donate to some needy individuals, to the poor and underpriveleged? Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami
Re: [Goanet] Hitler was a Jew
--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > General Alexander Haig served six Republican > presidents in high positions, including chief of > staff in the White House, Supreme NATO commander, > and foreign secretary. He claims in his recently > published book, that the neo-conservatives (neo cons > who started Iraq war) are really (conservative) > Democrats who switched sides and high jacked the > foreign policy establishment of the Republican > Party. > > How many people believe this? > Mario clarifies: > The US officials responsible for the decision to liberate Iraq by force were President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell and National Security Advisor Condi Rice. These have always been known as conservatives; not one of them is a neo-con - originally political liberals who changed their political philosophy over the years. > The neo-cons in the Bush administration that get erroneously mentioned for "starting" the war in Iraq, were all in subordinate positions - not one of them were in major decisionmaking positions. >
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Should be Kept Secular
And, according to Jewish tennets any person born of a Jewish woman is a Jew. This rule applies, at present, for Israelli citizenship as well as a basis for immigration threin. AT > I hope it has not escaped his attention that, also in Israel, a woman was the Prime Minister of the country and the current Foreign Minister is a woman. > > _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please Identify this Gate (Wall)
My dear "is he here or, is he in h---" Joe, I had also placed it right as well as the impossibility of it being post. manueline. AT From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please Identify this Gate (Wall) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:43:39 + (GMT) Hi guys, I just wans to thank you all for your feedback. Mr. Teotonio Rodrigues is right, its Rachol (Raitura) entrance gate wall (about 11 kms from Margao) But it cannot be just 100 or 200 years old , it could be even 400 years or as old as Rachol Seminary ? I even heard that the church was the first to build (Don't know which one whether Raitura or Rachol se pics) by the Portuguese followed by a Prison and then the Seminary. see 3 churches hre http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=347316212&size=o The wall/Gate could be even oven 450 years old Who will tell us ? === [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please Identify this Gate (Wall) Paulo Colaco Dias PauloCD at hotmail.com Fri Jan 5 01:46:07 PST 2007 Like Roland, I cannot identify where the gate is but the 'crown emblem' is the Portuguese coat of arms during the Portuguese Monarchy (hence the Royal Crown). So, it is not only the heraldry of D. Manuel II but also of his predecessors. BTW, D. Manuel II was the last king of Portugal (1908-1910) from the House of Braganca and he was forced to exile in England, where he died in 1932 without descendents. The heir to the throne of Portugal is today represented by D. Duarte of Braganca, the 24th Duke of Braganca, who loves Goa and has visited Goa several times, the last time quite recently. Best regards Paulo Colaco Dias. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] 40TH MAND0 FESTIVAL MESMERISES ALL
A record turnout witnessed the 40th Mando Festival organised by the Goa Cultural and Social Centre at the Dinanath Mangueshkar Kala Mandir (Auditorium) of the Kala Academy at Campal Panaji this evening. The function started at 3.48 p.m there were 23 groups viz; 8 in the Junior Group (comprising children ) the Senior Group - Original 4 Traditional Category 8 Dance category 3. The groups hailed from Merces, Dona Paula , Navelim Velim, Margao Mhapsa Chimbel (comprising of senior citizens) and Fatorda. This time the Government gave a grant of Rs. 1,00,000/- for the ocassion. The Kala Academy provided the Hall free of charge. The Goa Konknni Academy pleaded lack of funds and did not contribute its mite. The prizes ranged from Rs.200/- to Rs.3500/- . Each of the participating groups were paid transport and sundry charges of Rs.2300/- for those from Margao/Fatorda the Group from Mhapsa was paid Rs 1900/- the others from Merces Chimbel Rs.1600/- With the function coming just after the conclusion of the 3 days Goan Overseas Convention many of the NRG's were present on the ocassion. This time there were several non Goans and even foreign tourists. It was also noteworthy that the Portuguese audio visual media also covered this event besides national and local channels. The uniqueness of the event was that for the first time perhaps there was no Chief Guest appointed; who otherwise in recent times was a political figure. According to the President of the Goa Cultural and Social Centre Mr Antonio (Tony ) Ivor Barreto they felt that in the 40th year (since the first one was held on 29.8.1965 by Clube Nacional one of the oldest cultural Clubs of Goa) it was proper to make each of those Mando lovers that had helped sustain the Mando Festival all these years be conferred the honour of Chief Guests, this was recieved well by the audience with a thunderous applaud. The inimitable Dr Bhicaji Ghanekar whose name has been synonymous with the festival for well nigh forty years was at his wittiest best regaling the audience who burst out in guffaws of laughter at the snide remarks and jokes he cracked , there was Michael Gracias the editor of Jivit -niz goenkaranchem Rongit Masik, Mr Cosme Fernandes the Konkani Romi lipi activist and Joanas Correia who shared their moments of wit and humour. This time it must be said and many were thrilled to see that most of the seasoned groups did not participate viz; groups from Curtorim Candolim and Quepem, this apparently led the youth to come forward and their performance was commendable . Even the audience had a word of praise for the stage decor and setting and the costumes and stage presentation which was excellent compared to past standards. The jury consisted of Fr Eufemiano Miranda Mr Bomfilho da Cruz Mr Alino da Costa. The prizes awarded went to a) Junior Group Suadik Nad Merces Merces Firgojecho Saad Merces Merxechim Sobit Fulam b) Senior Group Original Category a) Mando Mogi Margao b) Vellechim Fulam Velim c)Merces Firgojecho Saad Merces Traditional category a) St Xavier Collegicho Naad Mhapsa b) Fatordechim Fulam c) Merces Firgojecho Saad Dance Category None measured to the expectations for the first prize and hence St Xavier Collegicho Naad was given the 2nd prize with none qualifying for 3rd prize other. A well designed souvenir was released on the ocassion by Principal of Mother of Mercy School Vasco-da-Gama. There are excellent write up "Artful Mando Dancing " by emminent cardiologist Dr Francisco Colaco besides the veteran suited and booted member since 1967 Octavio da Costa Rodrigues Treasurer another excellent write up by Isac Hilario Dias the Banker and Vice President who wrote on Mando Festivals -- memorable expression. The souvenir was sold for a measly Rs 30/- and is "must buy" souvenir for all those who would cherish the Goan traditional mando. This writer has a collection of Mandos and Dulpods which can be made available via email free of cost for wide circulation to any one desiring them. Most of the members of the audience and especially the MRG's felt that the Goa Government should come with a VCD featuring the Mando and other Goan traditional musical festivals so that the youngsters who are not conversant with the Goan culture ethos would be able to assimilate such unique blend of cultural exposition of the East and West combine for posterity. The Vice President of the Goa Cultural and Social Centre has expressed regrets that the Government has not provide the Centre with a premise till this date despite assurance and paying lip sympathy. The reason why this is necessary is that students world wide could do research on this Goan heritage an expression of music song and dance. It may also be noted that at the International Film Festival of India instead of featuring filmi or foreign cultural programmes Goas rich east west fusion -- Mando ought to have taken centre stage -- indeed this was what Polish actress Grazina Szapolowska had to say
[Goanet] Aires Rod, Trouble Maker and Non Achiever?
Dear all goanetters, I wish Goanetters would comment on the above named topic. I learn that this Aires Rod who was recently escorted out by Police from The Goan NRI Convention, is nothing but a 'Mischief Maker; he is sectarian in the cause he purports to support, and does not really support or lead on any cause for the whole of Goa. He rejected Bainguinim as a Garbage disposal area and led a movement against it without suggesting an alternate and viable site; hence there is no 'progress' in Goa. Now he tried the 'hijack' the Coan NRi convention and its agenda that has been thoughtfully and paistakingly arranged by eminent Eduardo Faleiro and his staff, and colleagues in the Govt. of Goa. Did Aires have another better plan or agenda for the Convention? NO! All he wanted was to make 'Trouble', and gain prominence; not knowing that Goans have by now seen through his 'modus operandi', and thereby made himself Notorious! I learnt that he as student leader revolted and rioted for concession tickets on public transport etc, and managed to get the concessions; Then he went to UK as an ESCAPE from his real failures? He came back from UK, (Probably did not achieve anything there?) only to make more Trouble in Goa! He made a cause of flouting helmet regulations for two wheeler riders etc., a rule and law that is internationally followed and imposed! How much more 'corny mischief can be tolerated by the Community! Imagine! and all this without any 'political power base! This above is my opinion! I would like goanetters to give their own opinions and comments on the issues raised! Can Goa allow any person to hijack Goa's Progress and attempts at finding solutions to its many problems? No! There has to be a better way. What is it? Nasci Caldeira Melbourne Down Under. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Youth Tabloid!
-- Forwarded message -- From: Herman Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03-Jan-2007 10:37 Subject: Youth Tabloid! Do you want to be a part of the Coolest trendiest and Steaming Youth Tabloid to hit Goa this month? Has your College made it big at some event that makes you proud? Or have you made your college proud at some event? Mirror Mirror on the Wall, Who is the fairest of them all? Are you looking to make it big in the world of fashion and modeling? Or do you just want to be a correspondent for your college? Or maybe you want to share the fun of your "night out" with the guys and gals of other colleges by sending us your party pics? If your answer is YES to any of the above, send in your stuff, written or pictures of you or your friends, and you could win "Top-up vouchers" and other exciting gifts, and there is more!... You will be famous!! Write back to me if this sounds intersting... this Tabloid will be for every one from 15 to 28 years old.. so its not just college stuff but youth in general!
[Goanet] NEWS-NAVY: Indian Navy gets warship to ferry tanks
Indian Navy gets warship to ferry tanks Indo-Asian News Service Karwar (Karnataka), Jan 5 (IANS) Terming it a "step forward to fulfil the nation's desire to indigenise naval ships", Defence Minister A.K. Antony has commissioned the largest tank landing ship in the Indian Navy. "(INS Shardul) will add to the amphibious warfare capabilities of the Indian Navy," Antony said during the brief commissioning ceremony at the Karwar Naval Base here Thursday. He also noted that the troop landing ship USS Trenton, which the navy has acquired from the US and which is expected to join the fleet later this year, would also serve as a powerful force multiplier. Promising all support for the indigenous design and manufacture of all ships, the minister said there were ambitious plans to modernise state-owned shipyards across the country to "reduce time and cost overruns". At the same time, he cautioned the navy against "resting on your laurels. You have to ensure you don't let down your guard", Antony added. Speaking on the occasion, Indian Navy Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta described INS Shardul as the "finest in a series of large ships" that are being built for the force. "It is vessels like this which will make us a true blue water navy," he maintained. The warship, built by Garden Reach Ship builders and Engineers Ltd, Kolkata, is capable of carrying 11 heavy tanks, 10 vehicles and about 500 troops, apart from a Seaking helicopter. It is armed with two rocket launchers, two anti-aircraft guns and shoulder launcher surface-to-air missiles (SAMs). Shardul, named after an amphibious animal, stands for the Royal Bengal Tiger, symbolising agility, strength and valour - all of which mark the features of an amphibious operation. "The warship is equipped with the latest advanced electronic warfare systems and automatic power management system. As the third landing ship tank of the navy, Shardul is the first of a new class, capable of transporting various kinds of combat equipment," a naval spokesman said. The ship is also capable of operating Seaking 42C and Dhruv advanced light helicopter (ALH), besides launching recovery of marine commandos through sea and by copters for vertical envelopment. "The ship is designed to support build up of men and material after the main landing. As a hospital ship with facilities in containerised form and as a fleet tanker for limited exercise," the spokesman said. INS Shardul replaces the earlier version commissioned in 1975 at Gdynia (Poland). It was decommissioned in June 1997. "Amphibious operations are by far the most complex of all military operations in view of the dexterous planning involved and the requirement of coordination between the diverse units -- sea, land and air," the official pointed out. As an amphibious vessel, Shardul can be configured and deployed to operate at various levels of conflict and in multiple theatres on account of its large accommodation and storage space. With a lift capability of 750 tonnes, it can operate even in shallow waters and is capable of beaching. "The ship is capable of performing a wide range of missions from providing humanitarian assistance and disaster relief to peace-keeping operations and major combat operations," the official added. * * * * * ndian Navy acquiring first American built warship Indo-Asian News Service Washington, Jan 5 (IANS) Over 300 sailors from the Indian Navy are getting ready to take home USS Trenton, an amphibious transport warship, the first American-made vessel to join India's growing blue water fleet. This first ever transfer of the US Navy ship to the Indian Navy is viewed as a significant event in the evolving Indo-US relationship with free and open access to sea considered an important and critical challenge by both navies. Formally called a Landing Platform Dock (LPD), the 17,000-tonne Austin-class ship will be handed over to India at a ceremony Jan 17 at the Naval Base, Norfolk, Virginia, where Indian sailors have been training with the Trenton crew since early November. It will then set sail for Visakhapatnam for likely induction into the Eastern Naval Command as INS Jalashva (Sanskrit for seahorse) to provide the Indian Navy an enhanced capability to move troops and equipment to great distances and remain off shore for a long time. It will be India's second-largest warship, second only to the 28,000-tonne Hermes-class aircraft carrier INS Viraat. Besides landing troops during war and rescue operations, it can also function as a command and control platform during offshore and mid-sea mishaps. Built by Lockheed at a cost of more than $400 million and commissioned in 1971, the amphibious ship has a complement of 28 officers and 480 men, and can transport nearly 1500 marines. The Trenton is being sold to India for about $48 million under a US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme. India has also purchased four Mark Eight landing craft and six H-3 Sea King helicopters to operate from the
[Goanet] "Fuss for New Farce" OR what's it Mr. CM?
"Fuss for New Farce" OR what's it Mr. CM? Most Goans have many questions to ask to our honorable (?) Trashy Cheap Minister (don't mind the slang used) for the New Year 2007! Most of the questions and expressions raised here are percolated down from the memories of general and middle class Goans. Their questions are based on past two years performance of Congress governance and the recent internecine publicity stunt triggered in Goa. Their questionnaire and their demands for assurances from you Mr. CM are: 1) which advisor advised you that "sub-judice cases like that of Regional Plan 2011 (RP)" cannot be rolled back? - High Court has not spelt out any refrains on your cabinet from taking such decision(s)! - On the contrary if cabinet even now takes scrapping of notified RP & corrective majors planned for already damaged property in Goa under cover of RP High Court in Goa will be more than pleased to dismiss the PIL filled against RP! 2) Which prevailing rule(s) compels you to consult the Governor prior to accepting resignation of the Minister(s)? - on the contrary to your stand taken Constitutions say "Governor has to act according to Chief Minister's advise" which is applicable in framing the government or in dissolving the assembly or even accepting resignation or demanding resignation from the minister(s)" OR are you up to changing even the Constitution of India and make the next incumbent to Chief Minister's Chair a "Cheap Minister"? 3) On what ground reality did you clear projects like Aldeia-de-Goa in Bambolim; and some upcoming townships like in Betul stretching up to Cabo De Rama Fort & on vast Mountain in Lolyem; and other localities in Goa? Who are the persons involved in these mega deals? Don't you know Mr. CM? 4) Have you finalized gifting land along the see shore in Goa to set-up so called "Free Heart Care Hospital cum Hotel" to Interventional Cardiology Director Dr. Fayed Shawl just because he saved you by angioplasty in 1992? Do you think Goans and Goa Bachav Abheyan will ever allow this divesting decision to materialize in name of Free Hospital which actually is a well planed Hotel Industry project? Don't you know this? And yet you are trying to pretend? Don't take decision in hurry Mr. CM just because you feel you are too young (as compared to your "younger minister") and you short of time in command! 5) Most interesting question which most people ask "Up to what age / experience you call a person / minister "A Youngster"? - is it limited only up to the age of recently resigned minister? Are you not aware that he has picked up all the "PoliTricking Art" much more then you within just 4 ½ years in ministry - and you call such minister a "Youngster"? Sorry Sir, you are wrong in saying so - as is always with you!! If Congress wants to be in drivers seat once again, Mr. CM Goans also wish to take guaranty / assurance from you in the New Year 2007 but before announcing assembly election for Goa that: 1) Self Resigned Minister for multiple reasons including creation of "All the mess to Goa's Ecology" of course in connivance with other cabinet colleagues & now up to "building his righteousness" will be expelled from the party? Neither he nor his wife would be given Congress tickets in the forthcoming assembly election - this is the most feared part of the gimmick which most people insistingly talk about; 2) This high end drama is not created just to pacify the Goa Bachav Abheyan (GBA) and to please Archbishop of Goa even though they never demanded any resignation from any minister(s). All that they are still demanding unanimous is "Scrapping of notified RP" and "Redesigning acceptable RP" that preserves ethos of Goa and it's Ecological balance; 3) Resignation of a minister is not a fuss to get into new farce, for the year 2007, for recommending earlier dissolution of the government and pressing Election Commission to declare assembly election for Goa much prior to its normal expiry date? - so that "New Delimitation Act" is not applicable and the same rogues get into the on-going game plan of looting and plundering Goa and Goans alike? Besides this none of the agitating Goans are convinced including GBA that they have won even 1 % by resignation letter gimmick! Mr. CM, if you still insistingly feel that what general and middle class public says or feels about RP & resignation letter is not correct then Mr. CM Goan public must admit that Mr. CM has turned too young again and does not understand Youngsters' game ball(s). Mr. CM you will have to continue to take guard-of-honor (?) at the "ceremonious ouster march" tactfully planned by Goan Youngsters' from general and middle class who are qualified for voting!! Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Civilian aircraft may cruise into defence airspace
Civilian aircraft may cruise into defence airspace SUNNY VERMA TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SATURDAY, JANUARY 06, 2007 02:33:05 AM] NEW DELHI: This could not have come at a better time. Airline passengers facing erratic flight schedules and inordinate delays may get some respite with the government planning to allow civilian airlines to use defence airspace and airport infrastructure. The civil aviation ministry has signed an agreement with the defence ministry for building synergies between defence and civilian airports. The broad proposal is to maximise the air space utilisation in the Indian skies. The agreement will enable the domestic carriers to use defence airfields when not in use. The two ministries have carved out five zones - North, South, East, West and Central - to facilitate cooperation among them. The joint management of air space will help the government in managing the congestion in the skies, especially at major airports such as Delhi and Mumbai. It will also be of special help during the fog season as various diverted planes may be able to land and take off from the nearest defence airport. At present, there are 450 airports and airstrips in the country. Of the 450, only 125 are under the management of Airports Authority of India and the rest are defence airfields and airstrips. Full text at: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Transportation /Civilian_aircraft_may_cruise_into_defence_airspace/articleshow/1068321. cms ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] EDUARDO FALEIRO'S BALL
After a chaotic IFFI 2006 we have seen an extremely controversial Global Goans Convention just conclude. The Convention, like IFFI was also a State-sponsored fiesta. This one hosted at a five star hotel and is estimated to have cost the taxpayers almost fifty lakhs if not more while just under 50 Non resident Goan delegates attended. This includes those who walked out of the convention protesting against lack of openness and transparency in its deliberations. A few of the delegates were locals who cared to pay the Rs 1000 delegate fee while the rest were invitees and government officers conscripted to make sure that empty chairs were not visible. I registered as a fee-paying delegate because of my experience and concerns of being a former Non Resident Goan. Freedom of speech was not the order of the day at the Convention. Even access to discussions was denied to the press. My participation in the deliberations was short lived. On the second day of the Convention anticipating that I would raise the issue of the Goa Regional Plan 2011, Commissioner of NRI affairs Mr. Eduardo Faleiro directed the Director of NRI affairs Mr.Ulhas Kamat to summon the police and arrest me. A police posse headed by Sub -divisional Police Officer Mr. Deu Banaulikar rushed to Cidade de Goa, the venue of the Convention and requested me to leave the site though I was a registered delegate. Mr. Eduardo Faleiro's highhanded dictatorial behavior has shown clear signs of unbalanced behaviour on the part of the Commissioner of NRI affairs and calls for an investigation into the overall working of the Commissionrate of NRI's and the unaccountable wasteful expenditure of our scarce public funds. The Convention had also an obnoxious political flavour. Mr. Eduardo Faleiro had his party's Mahila Congress to be the official ushers of the inaugural function and Mr. Faleiro in his address eulogizing the Pratapsingh Rane government expressed confidence that Mr. Rane would have many more terms as Chief Minister. How a departmental function could be turned into political massaging, Mr. Faleiro needs to explain. It is appalling that Mr. Eduardo Faleiro did not have the decency to even officially invite Mr. Chandrakant Keni the first Chairman of the NRI cell, leave alone placing on record the contribution of Mr. Keni to the cause of NRIs' in spite of his failing health. Any issue that affects Goa is a matter of concern to all including the Non Resident Goans and Mr. Faleiro has high jacked the agenda of a Convention being hosted at taxpayer's expense by not allowing a very important issue like the Goa Regional Plan 2011 to be deliberated. I was upset at not being able to speak out at the Convention but I am consoled that I was able to resist the temptation of lunching & dining at five star standards at the State exchequer's cost. How could I when the people of Goa are thirsting for better roads and a decent public health care which is something the State seems is unable to afford. Mr. Eduardo Faleiro had the audacity to tell me that it was "his" convention. Yes,what we have witnessed was not a Global Goans Convention but "Senhor Eduardo Faleiro's ball". The only difference was that the wining, dinning and the merry making was at public cost and did not pinch the wallet of the Commissioner of NRI Affairs. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Hitler was a Jew
On 06/01/07, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Some Goanetters had a field-day with Mario's post on the Iranian President's remarks about Hitler. Given Mario's past writings, nobody can accuse Mario of being an anti-Semite. The response to Mario's post highlight my point of "reading what is written". Mario's point in his post was that many people write all sorts of opinions. Just because it is written, (even by a person of responsibility) does not validate what is written, and is not necessarily correct. I recently wrote to some friends about recent history by a "witness" to the history. I will post it on Goanet (for some feedback and humor) since it is along the same vein as Mario's post. General Alexander Haig served six Republican presidents in high positions, including chief of staff in the White House, Supreme NATO commander, and foreign secretary. He claims in his recently published book, that the neo-conservatives (neo cons who started Iraq war) are really (conservative) Democrats who switched sides and high jacked the foreign policy establishment of the Republican Party. How many people believe this? RESPONSE: Yes, I for one truly believe this ! They are still looking for W.M.D.; failing to find them within a reasonable time, they switched tack and declared 'wasn't it nice' to get rid of Saddam' (regime change). Now we have a boiling cauldron, with potential fateful implications for the whole of the Middle East. The first Christians of the Church, have to leave the Middle East, thanks to Bush and Blair ! How's that for starters ? Those bloody neo con democrats! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] A MERRY MAKING CONVENTION (Attn. Aires)
Hey Aires (Rod) You are casting aspersions about the Convention being 'Merry Making" without saying what its agenda or planning should have been. You are not going to get away with this. If I were the authority I would have the likes of you, who try to 'HIJACK' a Convention, for at least 'Three Days in Custody', where U would be fed some nice 'free Bakri' all at Taxpayer's expense. Then would you complain that your 'lock up' is at tax payers expense. Stop misleading people. You took part leading or otherwise in the 'Save Goa Campaign'?? Then why did you want to hijack the Convention and try to belittle the good efforts of Eduardo Faleiro and company? You are probably jealous that you have been unable to 'acheive' anything of the type. You are not even an NRI, and yet you tried to foul the agenda and the succes of the Convention. What a Shame! Nasci Caldeira, Melbourne Down Under. -- --- airesrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Goa cannot afford to be forever hospitable. Yet > another State-sponsored fiesta concludes today by > way > of a three day Global Goans Convention hosted at a > five star hotel. This edition of the now annual > ritual > is anticipated to have cost the taxpayers almost > half > a crore rupees if not more. That money could have > been > better spent in hot mixing Panaji's internal roads, > which are in a critical and pathetic condition. > A police posse headed by Sub divisional Police > Officer Mr. Deu Banaulikar rushed to Cidade de Goa, > the venue of the Convention and requested me to > leave > the venue though I was a registered delegate having > paid Rs 1000. > Any issue that affects Goa is a matter of concern to > all including the Non Resident Goans and Mr. Faleiro > could not have highjacked the agenda of a Convention > being hosted at tax payers expense. - Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
[Goanet] NIE's Cambridge International Centre
My old-time classmate and friend Jude Miranda (a Goanetter since way back) passed on an invite for me. (He has shifted from SFX in Mapusa to NIE at Altinho.) NIE, the Nirmala Institute of Education is launching its Cambridge International Centre on Jan 9, 2007 at 3.30 pm. NIE's principal is Dr Rita Paes, and the special guest is University of Cambridge international examinations regional director for South Asia William Bickerdike. Here's wishing them well... FN -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com
[Goanet] Seabird' phase-II to start soon at Karwar - Goodbye to Dabolim?
'Seabird' phase-II to start soon at Karwar Rajat Pandit [ 6 Jan, 2007 0052hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ] KARWAR: "Project Seabird", the Navy's ambitious but much-delayed project to gain "strategic depth" through a futuristic Naval base in coastal Karnataka, is all set to take the next step forward. Clearance for Phase-II of the sprawling base, after the Rs 2,500 crore Phase-I was launched in 1999, will go to the Cabinet Committee on Security for clearance around March. This booster dose for the Karwar base, which will meet India's strategic needs in the Indian Ocean region for the foreseeable future, will not come a day too soon. Full text at: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/India/Seabird_phase-II_to_start_ soon_at_Karwar/articleshow/1067870.cms ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Misleading military stance (contd)
"Naval chief, Admiral Sureesh Mehta said that the air station at Dabolim is its major fighting base due to its strategic location." Strategic? For what? R& R? Sure it can do all the reccy it wants from there. But Dabolim is definitely not a sine qua non for military flight training. Especially since the aircraft carrier is based in Bombay and the new (re-fitted) one for MIG 29Ks will be based at Seabird/Karwar. Also why keep harping only on seasonal charter flights on two (max three) days a week? What about all the domestic flights which are affected all the year round? And especially during Christmas and New Year? Also it is interesting that the Navy channels its justification for sticking to Dabolim to GOA PLUS of TOI which probably has a very narrow readership of the non-mainstream variety. The magazine seems to swallow whatever it gets from the Navy. Cheers.
[Goanet] Must you come to Goa at this time? (Vivek Menezes)
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1071856 Must you come to Goa at this time? Friday, December 29, 2006 22:24 IST Vivek Menezes Let's start at the top. Why Goa? Why do all of you newly moneyed, newly adventurous and aspirational Indians head here like lemmings every New Year? Don't you know that the Goans are in xenophobic uproar? Haven't you heard the Israeli announcement about the Al Qaeda threat to this slice of Konkan coastline? Isn't Karwar supposed to be much more authentic? And what about the cost? Everyone complains that Thailand is cheaper, and Malaysia, and even exotic Bali. Why not go there? Why would you pay Rs 30,000 per night for a hotel room that goes for a tenth of that price the rest of the year. Why would you pay Rs 11,000 to compete for the last shrimp on a dried-up buffet on the 31st? Aren't these prices the opposite of value for money? Seriously guys, we want to know. What is it about Goa, especially at year end, that compels you to pile up here in droves, to deplete your savings precipitously, to convert our entire state into a grotesque Bollywood-style caricature of itself? It can't be the booze, that doesn't make sense at all. Goa still sports thousands of small taverns, bars and shacks, and alcohol is still marginally cheaper than in the rest of the country. But is it worth it to come to Goa to get three rupees off the same bottle that you can drain in the comfort of your own neighborhood, better yet in your own armchair? Of course not. And you can get home delivery, you lucky urbanite. Why bother with all that walking, or driving. Why bother with that nuisance of a flight when you can pick up the phone and get a frosty case of cold ones at your door in ten minutes? And you have such lovely air-conditioned bars, in such lovely air-conditioned malls. We have nothing to compare with that, not a single glittering shopping arcade in this whole woefully backward place. You'll have to drink in a crummy shack, without cable television, stuck in front of those overrated magenta sunsets. Horrifying prospect, isn't it? God forbid. Forget Goa, you'll get sand on your feet here, and who needs that. Don't tell us it's the bikinis. There was a time that busloads would head straight across the border to Anjuna, just to ogle sunbathers from a distance. But nobody can be that repressed anymore in surging, booming, globalizing India, can they? All those glossy magazine surveys tell us that there's swingers aplenty in Secunderabad, and sex parties by the score in Patna. That's the real deal, why not go there? Bihar for New Year, it's now, it's unalloyed. Forget Goa, people, listen to reason. It can't be the coastline, because our beaches have been hammered into submission by overcrowding and steady coastal erosion. That iconic Baga to Candolim stretch? A mere ribbon of sand, hemmed in by a wall of concretization on one side and angry, beach-gouging waves on the other. Arambol? Badly polluted. Palolem? It's like Juhu on a weekend, with inebriated Russians outnumbering individual grains of sand. Hmm. Juhu. Now there's an unsung little jewel of a beach right on your own turf, no? Forget Goa, the beaches of Mumbai have been overlooked for far too long. Let's face it folks, Goa is played out. There's nothing more for you here. We Goans feel a lot like that famous Arabian sheikh who let his camel warm a toe inside his tent, and eventually got pushed out by the animal's entire bulk. Tourism seemed like a good idea thirty years ago, when the first wretched five-star hotels were built, but it didn't take very long for the deal to go sour. Ten thousand CRZ violations later, we're left cold, alienated, huddled on the last recognizable slivers of our homeland. May our ancestors forgive us, but it has come to this point — forget Goa, there's no place for Goans in it. The writer is a freelancer based in Goa
Re: [Goanet] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Modern Allopathic medicine accepts the presence of > psycho-somatic ailments; either directly or through > enhancement or suppression of hormone production. > These "ailments" can be cured without medicines. > Dear Miguel, I have addressed most of your points separately. But regarding the above, do you consider AIDS and congenital heart disease to be psychosomatic ailments? No modern physician does. The Potta promotional materials claim that these grave conditions are being miraculously cured there. One of these cases is from Goa. It is very easy to gloss over the specifics of the outrageous claims made with spooky generalities and psychobabble. But fairness and equal justice demand that preachers be treated no differently from physicians, pharmacists and politicians when faced with incredible claims. All feet should be held to the fire in the same manner, no matter how high off the ground they may be. > >Should we then ban all the doctors from practicing >medicine. > No, but we should question the competence of the doctors who treated your mother or question the effectiveness of their treatments. Demand that they subject their therapies to proper scientific scrutiny, and take them to task if they resort to false advertising of unproven treatments. We should do the same to the divine preachers. > > Pota is not SELLING miracles. It charges about > Rs.300/- per head towards food, lodging and the > overheads for sound , light, live music for a week. > Someone else said that the charge was Rs. 250. The website still claims that it is only Rs. 170. The mechanism for generating income is a tried and tested one, both in India and abroad. Thousands of faith healers, psychics and self-help gurus use it as we speak. The miraculous publicity brings in the throngs. Donations and sale of books and souvenirs compounds the income. Life is good. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] A MERRY MAKING CONVENTION
Aires Rod's post 'Quote Freedom of speech was not the order of the day at the Convention. Anticipating that I would raise the issue of the Goa regional Plan 2011, Commissioner of NRI affairs Mr. Eduardo Faleiro directed the Director of NRI affairs Mr.Ulhas Kamat to summon the police and arrest me.' UnQuote. Just curious to know if the discussion/debate on the Regional Plan 2011, did extend the Agenda's time limit. Leo D'Souza. Dubai. 'The biggest human temptation ... to settle for too little.' Thomas Merton. _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] Mhadei Matter is Minor - Goa U prof
In HERALD Jan 4 there is an op-ed page article titled "Mhadei: A Scientific Perspective" by A.G. Desai a professor of the Geology department of Earth Science, Goa University.In a nutshell he argues (and I quote): "the order (type) of streams selected for impoundment and the quantum of water involved does not merit the usage of the term 'dams' but instead need [to] be referred to as 'bundharas'. The question is whether the construction of these ... bundharas is going to spell a doomsday [sic] for the state [of Goa]. The answer is ... an emphatic NO (emphasis in original)." The author also observes that "there is an increasing tendency [in Goa] to utilise agricultural lands for pisci culture and for CONSTRUCTION (URBANISATION) [emphasis mine]." This he says is because agriculture in Goa is "uneconomical". On the contrary he seems to believe that the Mhadei/Mandovi and/or the Zuari should have been used by now for hydro-power since Goa is totally dependent on neighbouring states for electricity. _ Spice up your IM conversations. New, colorful and animated emoticons. Get chatting! http://server1.msn.co.in/SP05/emoticons/
Re: [Goanet] NRI meet.... Go to Hell
On one hand, Herald report says that Faleiro used the words, "Go to hell." On the other, JoeGoaUK informs that he has been told my three NRGs that Faleiro didn't use those words but ordered the security to keep the mediapersons out. If the meeting was indeed private or held "in camera", then Faleiro is within his rights. What I fail to understand is why would an "open session" with NRGs be treated as "private". I have covered the 2005 Gomant Sammelan and also the Pravasi Divas. All accreditated journalists were allowed to cover all sessions, etc. I remember the 2005 NRI Goan Meet turning into a verbal duel between a Herald reporter and the then CM Parikkar. If officials don't want journalists to ask questions, the media kit must contain such guidelines. But the journalists must be given a chance later on to ask questions on all sessions or that particular session after it has ended. But this would take lot of time. I assume the Goa government wanted to prevent the media from delving on the Regional Plan at the meet and so took an evasive action. The media must have had some opportunities to question the government on the plan before the NRI meet as the issue kicked up much before the meet. The government may have just given a chance to the NRGs to voice their concern over the plan as a courtesy. With his experience with the media, Faleiro is aware of what the media seeks and demands. He has daughter who is a journalist, a recent prize-winner for exposing farmer suicides in Maharashtra where she is based. Herald reports says that NRGs didn't get the time to ask questions and what they heard were speeches from the ministers. This is unacceptable on the part of the organizing committee. It is incidental that the Regional Plan issue erupted just before the meet. One of the reasons I didn't come for both the Pravasi Divas meet and the Goa meet was because I know in my heart that not much is achieved at these shows. In 2005, it was announced that the Pravasi Divas would be held one year for Business issues only and the next for general issues. But it hasn't happened. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Political Carnival in Goa
Political Carnival in GOA TCP minister acted in a haste according to mafia CM Rane whereas resignation is a eyewash according to communal Manohar Parrikar and he alone should not be blamed for the Regional Plan according to the Don of goan politicians,Babush Taliban Monseratte. Mafia Rane is fully controlled by Babush. Rane is just one of the joker in the Babush controlled congress political circus where I consider Babush as a ring master.He can make Rane to dance and he must have done it several times which we are totally unaware.I fully agree with Babush regarding the statement, he alone cannot be blamed.Yes,we know about that.This time they,the political prostitutes had big plans to sell Goa for all but the thieves were caught at the right time.Yes,Mr. Babush although the regional plan was planned to sell Goa by all the members of the ruling and might be the opposition was also promised their share but at this time the fellow thieves cannot support you cause money-making elections are approaching and the thieves don't like to lose the money-making kodel by supporting you. And you Parrikar,don't try to fool goenkars.Once the same Babush was a part of your government.Your attempt to cancel catholic religious holidays like Goenchea saibacho dis and good Friday is still alive in our hearts. All saxttikars knows about Mafia Rane.He is the one who initially introduced the loot and lootmar policy when he took over from the MGP and as his date of expiry is close-by,he wants to make the best use of his kodel for personal gains. Goa was ruled by Portuguese.I was born in liberated Goa so I cannot say anything about the Portuguese rule as I never witnessed their rule.In liberated Goa, goenkars witnessed Goa going from bad to worst and now our representatives in our democratic system had plans to sell Goa for all in the name of regional plan.Are we really liberated or our present state is worst than the Portuguese Rule? Joel Morais Cuncolim,Goa.
[Goanet] 101st time...
Hi Joe, I just called you a Scarlet Pimpernel none of those colourful terms you mentioned below. No offence meant, even if I'm doing it for the 101st time now. Whatever the case, we do appreciate the role you're playing (on Goanet and elsewhere) in sharing information and updates about Goa. The last thing we can do now is to offer a reward for anyone who captures your head (on a digital photo, of course, nothing more). Whatever you do, have fun ... FN JOEGOAUK wrote: And whether some one calls him "Loje okol" or 'tambddem Roz' or 'kuslo Bannxirem' etc etc and whether someone says it 2 time or hundred times (as FN did)is not going to change him at all. -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com
