[Goanet] Mother of murdered Goa teenager Scarlett Keeling spent year in prison for cutting man's throat
Mother of murdered Goa teenager Scarlett Keeling spent year in prison for cutting man's throat Last updated at 19:03pm on 14th March 2008 The mother of murdered Scarlett Keeling spent a year in jail for cutting the throat of a man she met at a party, her son has revealed. Hal Keeling, 19, said Fiona MacKeown, 43, was jailed for attempted manslaughter. He added that Ms MacKeown, who remains in India following her daughter's murder in Goa, confessed to her nine children: I haven't been an angel in the past. The revelation came on the day police served her with a summons under the Goa Children's Act, which requires adults to provide a safe environment for a child. Her lawyer, Vikram Varma, said the summons required Mrs MacKeown to make herself available at a special juvenile police unit. *Scroll down for more ...* Emotional: Scarlett's mother Fiona MacKeown at court today She will have to appear and they will take any kind of action they want, said Mr Varma. He said the police had chosen that section of the Act to harass Mrs MacKeown for exposing corruption in the police. Scarlett had been staying with her boyfriend, Julio Lobo, a 25-year-old Goan tour guide, and his two aunts in Anjuna when she was last seen at a bar in the resort. Her mother, six other younger children and her mother's boyfriend - who arrived in November on a six-month holiday - were travelling elsewhere in the region when Scarlett was killed. But Mrs MacKeown has said she was naive and trustworthy, but not negligent, for leaving her. Today, police said they were willing to to re-open past cases of suspicious deaths if they received fresh requests. Yesterday one of the suspects being held over the horrific attack on the 15-year-old in Goa reportedly told police British she had was drugged, beaten, raped and left for dead. Mr Keeling said his mother was 18 when she and a friend were accused of attempted murder. The charge was reduced to attempted manslaughter after a trial in 1983, and she served a year of a three-year sentence. He said: She said she was very naive and a man they met at a party tried to get his heels into her. Mum said he was into black magic and she freaked out. At least 126 foreign nationals have died in Goa in the past two years, 40 of them British, according to Kishan Kumar, said the Inspector general of police in Goa. Some officers, who have spoken on condition of anonymity, say that 10-12 deaths passed off as drowning since last year looked suspicious. Indian authorities had originally said Scarlett's death was an accident, but later arrested two people after a second autopsy revealed she could have been killed. Investigations revealed the original investigating officer of the case had deliberately covered up the case and he was later suspended. *Scroll down for more ...* Scarlett poses with an elephant in Goa in the days before her murder Suspect: Placido Carvalho was arrested last night under three sections of Indian law - rape, murder and supplying drugs. He has appeared in court today The Indian media and lawyers have criticised police for failing in the past to properly investigate murder cases. Yesterday more details emerged of how 15-year-old Scarlett, from Bideford, Devon, died, and as a third unnamed person was arrested yesterday on suspicion of her murder. Drug dealer Placido Carvalho, the second man to be arrested in the probe, is alleged to have broken down and admitted under police questioning that he forced the 15-year-old blonde to take Ecstasy, LSD and cocaine before a barman beat her unconscious and raped her near his bar on Goa's popular Anjuna beach. Detectives believe that Scarlett, whose mouth was filled with sand, and had been rendered helpless by a cocktail of drugs and the beating, then died in a shallow beach pool. Details of the shocking death were revealed today by Inspector Kishan Kumar as Carvalho, 48, was remanded in custody by a court for 14-days on suspicion of supplying drugs, assault and murder. Insp. Kumar said Mrs MacKeown could still be investigated for leaving her daughter at the resort while the rest of the family travelled elsewhere in India. The officer also revealed that the policeman who originally handed the investigation into the death and said Scarlett had drowned as part of an elaborate cover-up had been suspended. *Scroll down for more ...* Samson D'Souza, who has been charged with Scarlett Keeling's rape But despite the revelations Fiona MacKeown, whose suspicions her daughter was drugged and murdered led to a second post mortem that confirmed her worst fears, said she believed police were still covering up aspects of the crime to protect powerful drug dealers operating along the popular Goan coastline. I believe the people arrested are the small fish, she said. I do believe they were there that evening with my daughter and I believe they probably drugged and raped her - but I do not believe they were the only ones involved. There is a
[Goanet] Framework to Interview Manohar Parrikar on Goanet- Burying the hatchet
Dear Dr Anil Desai, The subject Line of Dr Anand's original post says it all: Manohar Parrikar wishes to speak to Goanet. Had it been otherwise, he would have chosen a different subject line like Manohar Parrikar's interview or Manohar Parrikar wishes to speak to the Cybergoans, etc. These lines too are from Dr Virgincar's original post. I have requested Manohar Parrikar to record a video interview for Goanet...and he has kindly agreed. He will answer questions posed by all of us and the videos will subsequently be uploaded on Goanet. The above two lines too clearly indicate that Dr Anand Virgincar sought Manohar Parrikar's consent to do an interview for Goanet and only Goanet, that the questions would be posed by Goanetters and only goanetters and the interview, as and when ready would be uploaded on Goanet and only goanet, else he would have written *Goanet and others* . All other facts gathered are from Dr Anand's and Rajan's own posts and Dr Anand himself has not denied the same. I have read, unread and reread all the posts on this subject and I do not accuse Dr Anand of anything except his inconsistency, i.e. between the consistent stand he took till he went into a silent mode and the stand he took in his *final word*. It is Rajan who is the villain in all this and not Dr Anand. I think I have made that quite clear in my last post. Nobody is scared of this venture. In fact, we would love to have Manohar Parrikar here and we have been very clear about this. We want this venture to be a fair exercise and if at all anyone is acting scared here, it is them. Dr Anand himself wrote in the past that the Interview would be fair if a group of moderators would prepare the final list of questions and I quote him: I agree entirely with JC regarding moderators choosing the final list of questions. My choice is : Bab George Pinto Dr Jose Colaco Dr Anil Desai Bab Floriano Lobo Dr Rajan Parrikar. Now, they are singing different tunes altogether. If they are sincere about all this and they want the interview to be fair , they must stick to their initial proposal. Cheers and good wishes Sandeep Heble
Re: [Goanet] Framework to Interview Manohar Parrikar- Burying the hatchet
What is the main purpose of this planned interview? Just curious! Cip
[Goanet] The Navy at sea
Navy surfs on froth of failed contracts SUJAN DUTTA New Delhi, March 15: A friend whose father was in the navy has this take on the service. In the 1980s, when there was a demand for a second aircraft carrier, an air force officer had wondered aloud at a cocktail what the navy was going to do with such a large ship. Is it, he asked, for ballroom dancing? Today, the navy has space enough to waltz, disco, rap and reggae - with a jig of bhangra - in the high seas. It has the acreage of the Viraat's flight deck because nearly all the aircraft carrier's combat planes, the Sea Harrier, are grounded. And the navy's second-largest ship, the amphibious INS Jalashva, sails on the condition that it cannot be used in a war. It was only last month that the Indian Navy had projected itself as the largest sea power in the region. It hosted an Indian Ocean regional summit of naval chiefs and proposed joint anti-terrorism operations. The navy assumed it was a natural leader in the region to make such a proposal without having to emphasise its prowess. Within weeks of that summit, it is surfing in the choppy waters of failed and faulty contracts. If blame for negotiating a faulty contract for the Jalashva - a warship that cannot be used in the event of a war - were to be assigned, Pranab Mukherjee, now foreign minister, would be in an uncomfortable situation. He was defence minister from May 22, 2004, to October 25, 2006. The Jalashva offer was made in September 2004 and the ship was purchased in a hasty manner (according to the Comptroller and Auditor General) on July 31, 2006. Before the contract was signed, in June 2005, Mukherjee had visited the US where he signed a 10-year framework agreement for the India-US defence relationship, a pact made public only after it was formalised. Provoked, the Left alleged India was making its interests subservient to America's in the military arena. The negotiation for the Jalashva was carried out during Admiral Arun Prakash 's tenure as navy chief, from July 31, 2004, till October 30, 2006. The now retired admiral says the navy acts in its best interests. Naval officers were aghast that their former chief should be mentioned in the same breath as the flawed Jalashva contract. What we do with the ship after we acquire it is up to us, they claim. Translated, this means that even if India has agreed not to use the ship in a war, it is free to do whatever it wants during hostilities. The navy is already grappling with the consequences of badly drawn up contracts. Four months before Mukherjee took over, his predecessor George Fernandes oversaw the clinching of the deal for the Russian aircraft carrier, the Admiral Gorshkov. That contract was so faulty that it did not contain a clause on price escalation. The upshot: Russia has demanded $1.2 billion over and above the $1.5 billion negotiated. In the waters that have flown between the Gorshkov and the Jalashva, the navy finds itself at sea in a way it did not envisage. The rap, the reggae, the waltz and the bhangra on the choppy waves of its own churning are distinctly different from surfing the foam. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080316/jsp/frontpage/story_9026165.jsp The fall out on Goa may need to be thought through and suitable evasive action contemplated.
[Goanet] TOI EDITORIAL: Clean Up Goa
TOI EDITORIAL: Clean Up Goa It's a famed beach-holiday destination, easy-going and affordable. With its rich cultural and religious traditions, Goa offers a heady mix of the old and the new. However, over the years, it has also become an attractive hang-out for socially dysfunctional people. Easy availability of drugs and its reputation as a tourist paradise where liquor flows uninterruptedly seem to have perpetuated its image as a permissive haven, away from the rough and tumble of the outside world. The idyll is shattered when something goes horribly wrong as it did with 15-year-old Scarlett Keeling, on holiday with her family from Britain. According to reports, the teenager was drugged, raped and left on the beach to drown by a local shack manager. Outrage is being expressed at how a mother could leave her minor daughter with perfect strangers in a shack on a beach known for its rave parties and go off to another state as part of her holiday plans. Be that as it may, serious questions need to be asked on various other counts. How is it that the drug trade in Goa is flourishing, that too, in full public view and under the nose of the state police whose duties include cracking down on such illegal activity? Consumption of locally available intoxicants like bhang and charas has been a tradition for too long to merit comment and are less harmful than the more refined and enhanced substances like laboratory-created LSD, heroin and cocaine. These are easily available on Goa's beaches, eating houses and shacks that welcome foreign visitors while discouraging locals and domestic tourists. The drugs trade presupposes international links, which is why there is a need to revisit the resident status and visa validity of the many foreigners who have made Goa their base - without, of course, turning it into an indiscriminate cleansing operation. The growth and spread of a drug mafia that might well include members of the police force, locals and some foreigners, is cause for action. It's a serious problem, and Scarlett's might not be the last such case. Goa needs an anti-drug crusade that grows out of community concern, supported by NGOs and government agencies. It was a people's movement to save the environment that aborted a government plan to set up industries in special economic zones. The people of the region should come together to clean up their home. Someone like Remo Fernandes, a Goan icon and a pacifist, could be a mascot for such a movement. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/TODAYS_EDITORIAL_Clean_Up_Goa/articleshow/2867196.cms
Re: [Goanet] More on Selling Goa
Eminent Cardiologist and Social Activist Dr. Francisco Colaco answers Colaco's responses on above subject on oHeraldo dated Sunday, March 16, 2008. Please follow the below mentioned link http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1101cid=2 For those WHO have no time to follow the link I reproduce Dr. Francisco Colaco's views as is appeared on oHeraldo: KEEP INDIN LAND SHARKS OFF LIMITS TOO MARGAO, MARCH 15 - Eminent cardiologist and social activist, Dr Francisco Colaco has demanded that the government not only ban the sale of land to foreigners but all outsiders too, including land sharks from Delhi and elsewhere. Blaming the politician-bureaucrat-outsider builder nexus for the wholesale of Goan land to outsiders, Dr Colaco on Saturday gave a clarion call to the people Goa to save their land, saying Goans will be reduced to a non-entity in their motherland in the future. Dr Colaco made the appeal at an exhibition held near the Communidade building here to protest against the Goa Property show organised by Times Business Group in Delhi. He said the Goa government should study the Land Protection Acts of the States of Uttaranchal and Himachal Pradesh before before bringing a similar ban on sale of land to outsiders. Coming down heavily on the politician-bureacrat-builder nexus for the sale of Goan land, Dr Colaco said it's high time the people of Goa do not elect the politicians who are out to destroy and sell Goa for a price. Asked about his comments on the Goa Property show in Delhi, Dr Colaco said this is a grim reminder that our land is being sole without the knowledge of locals. This is not the first time, nor the last time this is happening. The Regional Plan is haunting us every now and then in one form or the other. First came the RP 2011, followed by SEZ and now an Internet site advertising and offering people to buy huge tracts of land. This will change Goa's geography, demography and topography and everything that is Goan, he asserted. Saying that ordinary Goans today find it difficult to convert a small piece of land for housing, Dr Colaco said that large tracts of land have been converted by the politicians in violation of agricultural rules and CRZ rules. Asked whether only the politicians are to be blamed for the sale of Goa, Dr Colaco said each and every individual is responsible for the selling their precious land, but the politicians-bureacrat-builder nexus is the worst, because politicians have sold the land with the sweep of a brush. Asked what is his message to the people on the sale of land, Dr Colaco said ideally, the people should not elect the politicians who do not love Goa.
[Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
Dr Anand Virgincar wrote: Scarlette Keeling's mum has today accused Ravi Naik of being hand in glove with the drug cartel in Goa. Among other pronounciations, she says : # Ravi Naik has a STRONG nexus with drug mafia # Ravi Naik has FULL knowledge of criminal activities in Goa # Ravi Naik does his BEST to protect criminals That is understandable. They are his colleagues in the Government! And some of them are in the opposition too :-) We will write more on that on a different date. Cheers Sandeep
[Goanet] Goan Education - Mission Possible
Goan Education -Mission Possible By Plastino D'Costa Most of Goa's problems can be solved if Goa focuses more on its Human Resources by making Goan Education as the number one priority. Educated Goans today form a very small minority and to bring an effective change in Goan society we need this minority to transform into a majority. It is heartening to know that the Government of Goa is framing a policy on education which could address the education issue on two fronts simultaneously. Firstly, to accelerate the learning curve of Goans who have already completed their education so as to bring them ahead of the curve and secondly, to have a massive overhaul of the primary and secondary school education. Since this policy is framed by the educationists, it might be incomplete if it does not include sincere inputs of Corporate Goa, or the Catholic Schools of Bombay. Corporate Goa, as they are supposed to absorb most of the educated and the Catholic Schools of Bombay because they have been in the education field far too long to be ignored. Corporate Goa must have a say in the education policy because after Goans complete their formal education Corporate Goa is the only entity which measures performances of working Goans in Goa year on year through their internal performance evaluations. They are in a position to compare Goans with the rest and might be in a position to spot weaknesses in our Goan workforce. Corporate Goa could also bring the desired practicality in the syllabus. One role that has been underplayed in the Indian success story has been the role of Catholic Schools and convents in shaping intelligent and confident Indians. Today most Indians especially Bombayites cannot deny the role of Catholic Schools and Colleges played in shaping their careers and providing the basics. From Colaba, Fort, Marine lines, Byculla, Mahim, Bandra, Andheri and further, Catholic Schools by the dozens have put a tremendous effort compared to any other community. Gujratis, Mahrashtrians, Marwaris, Sindhis, Parsees or the miniscule Goans have all benefited the most. Unfortunately there is a big difference in the Catholic Schools of Bombay compared to the Catholic Schools of Goa. Barring a few city schools most catholic village schools of Goa don't measure up to the average schools of Bombay. Definitely there must be genuine reasons for their underperformance and if this education policy cannot address these issues then the purpose of this policy might be defeated. The Government of Goa through the good offices of the Bishop of Goa or independently could request the Catholic Schools of Bombay to send their inputs or even send their representatives to be part of the think-tank team to frame the policy. Surely they will oblige knowing the character of the people of Bombay, but for that to take place Goans need to keep an open mind that sometimes there is a need for a successful outsider to come and question our failing system and give positive feedback. Surely solutions like large scale teacher exchange programs on the lines of student exchange programs are bound to be recommended. After all, it is economically feasible to exchange students and teachers from Bombay then from Lisbon or London. Besides the geographical advantages Goa has with Bombay, it is better not to reinvent the wheel, as Bombay's education is time tested and has successfully delivered results in the form of creating successful citizens of India. Naturally grass root changes in education will come with a cost to the government and to have a sustainable education model, the government must withdraw the sops given to this sector. Freebies usually put pressure on the system which eventually does not have the desired effect and therefore all subsidies need to be withdrawn or reviewed. When Goans are made to pay for education naturally they will try to get their moneys worth and take more interest in education. The Government will also improve its fiscal health and will not have succumbed to desperate measures of selling casino licenses to improve their budgetary balances. The biggest failure of the Goan education system has been that majority of the Goans have never demanded it, as they have never thought beyond those sailing ships. The lure for money has been too strong to resist that these ships have even attracted the educated Goan or forced them to leave education midway. The potential of education is still not very well acknowledged in Goa and therefore it needs to work towards a sustainable, dynamic and transparent Education Policy, which not only transfigures the goals of the Generation Next Goan but transforms the entire society. The Success of Education in Bombay has been that there has been hardly any political interference, how to keep the present Goan politicians with personal agendas out of this education policy might be the biggest challenge to this mission.
[Goanet] Framework to Interview Manohar Parrikar on Goanet- Questions to Parrikar sympathizers
Dear Dr Anil (other Parrikar/ BJP Sympathizers), Trust me on this; I have no bones to pick with anybody and I am only saying all this in the sincere interests of Goanet and Goanetters. If you and/or other BJP/ Parrikar sympathizer's think otherwise, try answering these questions honestly and see for yourself whether the issues I have been raising are legitimate or not. 1. Dr Anand's original post makes it categorically clear that he took Manohar Parrikar's consent for recording this interview for *GOANET*, not for a private venture of his/ theirs. Dr Anand approached Manohar Parrikar to do the interview for *GOANET* because of Goanet's huge popularity and wide reach and Parrikar too gave his consent on account of the same. Also, Questions were solicited exclusively from Goanetters for this venture. Am I then not justified in asking that Goanet be given the credit which is legitimately due to it for this venture or do you believe that Dr Anand and Rajan are perfectly right in adopting this use-and-discard kind of policy? And on a related note, shouldn't the moderators/ owners have at least some say in all this? 2. I have participated in several Public debates and discussions on different issues. I have also witnessed such programmes/ shows on the Television. Whenever the organizers/ TV Channels solicit questions from the audience or viewers and the questions are selected, due credit is given to the person who has crafted the question by making a mention of his/her name along with the question. You too may have been a part of similar programmes and/ or may have witnessed the same on Television and have seen the procedure followed in such instances. Am I then not justified in demanding that Goanetters who have applied their mind and spent their time and energy to craft the questions be given their due individual credit? 3. Dr Anand himself said in the past that, for this interview to be fair, a group of moderators must prepare the final slate of questions. Am I then wrong in demanding the same? Won't a Panel of Moderators ensure the sincerity, fairness and transparency of this venture? Isn't this what Dr Anand wanted in the first place? Why are they getting butterflies in their stomachs now? Take out your ideological spectacles, make a fair assessment and try to answer these questions. Dr Anand and Rajan are avoiding answering the same. I am eagerly waiting to hear from you all on this. Regards and good wishes Sandeep Heble
Re: [Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
On 16/03/2008, J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jc's comment: I wonder whether somehow, we have possibly lost sight of the fact that 1: a 15 year old was raped and was found dead - possibly killed. 2: Goa has become infested by drug dealers and their drugs. 3: this was NOT so until 1966. A crime (perhaps 2 crimes) has(have) been committed. One which has plastered Goa negatively in the national and international press. Whenever LIBEL suits arise, one wonders if we know what that means and how difficult they are to prove. Furthermore, even if they are successful - ALL they end up doing is wasting the time of the courts. This mother, Fiona MacKeown, could hardly be able to pay up costs. To succeed in any libel suit, Ravi Naik must show not only that the offending statement is false, but also that Fiona MacKeown either knew it to be false or did not care whether it was true or not. (The bar in Indian libel law might be set a wee bit lower) In any event ... I'd like to use this opportunity to direct our attention to What the BJP is alleged to have done to Tehelka The saga is a depressing example of how the Kafkaesque weight of government can be used to crush those who challenge its methods please vide infra jc RESPONSE: The burden of proof in libel cases is reversed; in effect Fiona would have to prove that she did not libel. Please see:- http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan032.pdf Also check up law books on libel. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans
Venantius Pinto says: I see Indians as reasonably proud people, but I do not see Indian politicians from the same mould. I do not know what exactly are the questions that were asked of the persons interviewed, but would it not be safe to presume that the opinion sought is of the Indians as a whole, and NOT of the politicians? In his earlier message, Venantius said: But despite such acts of belligerence and a fascinating insult to itself,they still love the Chinese. The news report that I read said that 55% of the respondents viewed China negatively and 42% positively. I do not think this data would indicate love. In case of India the respective figures are 22% and 69%. Sachin Phadte _ Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=219
[Goanet] Madkaikar v/s ( Madkai ) kar
Dear Goanetters, The selfless and amazingly far sighted decision by the Congress high , low and all in-between commands to replace Pandurang Madkaikar with the Madkai MGP MLA has brought out some very philosophical statements : See Video interview below where Madkaikar says : # The decision to shamelessly sacrifice me for Sudin Dhavalikar by Digamber Kamat and the Congress was a great betrayal. # My decision to shamelessly betray Manohar Parrikar and the BJP in 2005 was a great sacrifice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmdoH_y4Js Madkaikar says in the interview that he has told his supporters not to hold morchas and protests in his support. 24 hours later he addresses a massive gathering at Velha Goa. Among other comments , 2 emotionally charged statements stand out : 1 ) In the presence of this statue of Mahatma Gandhi I vow to resign as MLA if justice is not done to me by 24th March 08. 2 ) Unlike other ministers , I have never ever made money out of politics ( he said this also under the watchful eye of the Mahatma Gandhi statue ) Sunaparant : http://www.goanews.com/pdf/suna160308.pdf Navhind times : http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031619 O Heraldo : http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1105cid=2 Satyamev Jayate... and Jay Panduranga, anand ( Dr Anand Virgincar ) _ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx
Re: [Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
The CM, The Minister's, the MLA's the police are aware of the drug trade being run in Goa. Go to any popular beach and you will find see the drugs are sold openly. I can say, that the CM, The Minister's, the MLA's the police are involved in the drug racket. How? see the drug mafia meet the police, the police informs the Minister, the Minister ask for his benefit, the drug mafia offer them the percentage of share. Same like the Matka. The police the Minister share the percentage. They can easily stop all this but. Borgee --- sandeep heble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Anand Virgincar wrote: Scarlette Keeling's mum has today accused Ravi Naik of being hand in glove with the drug cartel in Goa. Among other pronounciations, she says : # Ravi Naik has a STRONG nexus with drug mafia # Ravi Naik has FULL knowledge of criminal activities in Goa # Ravi Naik does his BEST to protect criminals That is understandable. They are his colleagues in the Government! And some of them are in the opposition too :-) We will write more on that on a different date. Cheers Sandeep Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Possible Cause of Scarlett's DEATH ..and the WAY FORWARD for a CLEAN Goa.
Dears, After weeks of incessant confusion confounded about how actually Scarlett died, we have a USA-based Goan doctor from Aldona, Dr.Gilbert Lawrence, giving us the most palusible explanation [pasted below, courtesy Frederick/Goanet] On Saturday [15 March, 2008], the Times of India editorial on the subject simply read Clean Up Goa with the sub-title All those who love it should start an anti-drug crusade. The last paragraph of the edit states the obvious The growth and spread of the drug mafia, that might well include the members of the police force, locals and some foreigners, is a cause for concern. It is a serious problem and Scarlettt's might not be the last such case. Goa needs an anti-drug crusade that grows out of community concern, supported by NGOs and governmental agencies. It goes on to remind us in Goa, It was a People's Movement to save the environment that aborted a government plan to set up industries in SEZs. the people of Goa should come together to clean up their home. Those of us who have come on the streets for GBA, SVM and/or GMAS rallies to scrap the Regional Plan 2011 or to stop the Meditabs and Rahejas can sure stop the drug trade IF WE WANT. that is what the Editorial is encouraging US to do. It is no longer in THEIR hands. It is up to US. Joaquim Fernandes, former Navhind Times reporter from Calangute who is now with the TOI, wrote on page 8 [TOI 15/3/08] Drugs not a Goan way of living. He lives in the village that was once the hot-spot of the drugdom in Goa, and many boys of his age are still overcoming the hangover. In the meanwhile Britons blast UK media for belittling India as the TOI headline tells us. We have not belittled the Brits when seven of their youth beat Goan youth on a day's shore leave, Gregory Fernandes, to death outside his hotel apparently even without provocation. The case will most likely be closed for lack of evidence ...as Scarlett's would have been closed but for the public outcry. The GT Weekender centre-spread story [pages 8 and 9] entitled Who cracked the Scarlett mystery? pieces to gether the sequence of investigation and manipulation of the FIRST autopsy, with facsmile copy of the Police Inspector's request dated 06 March, 2008. clearly indicating the earliest date when the supplementary observations and results could have been written by the doctor who suppressed information on the autopsy on 18 February, 2008. The Herald Editor, Ashwin Tombat's A tale of two autopsies tells more about the manipulations. On the same page of Herald MIRROR, Franky Gracias writes the story entitled The killing of Scarlett: Many questions, few answers. He asks one pointed question, Why did the hymenal tear, as mentioned in the second autopsy, miss Dr. Sapeco's eye? Was the doctor's later statement, that it was a rape, an afterthought? The Police Sub-Inspector has been suspended even as IGP Kishan Kumar has gone on record to state that legally the PSI was right, but that there were procedural lapses. If the PSI, who had kept his superiors [the Dy.SP and SP North] informed from 18 February itself, is terminated from service will his superiors not be held accountable for abetting the fudging up. Surely, there is a price to oversight and it is often paid in advance! That is the crux of the TOI editorial quoted above. The Navhind Times has made it its sacred duty to protect the fair name of Dr. Silvan Sapeco. Respected columnist, Mario Cabral e Sa toes that line in his otherwise balanced weekly column in the NT Panorama entitles A Messy Coctail. The penultimate paragraph says it all, There are discrepancies, in fact minor, between the first autopsy [Dr.Sapeco's] and the second [by Dr. Rodrigues]. One can attribute the comment But Dr.Sapeco ought to have been more careful about registering his findings after he probed Scarlett's vagina when the cadaver was fresh. Figuratively speaking, it seems he did to the autopsy of the cadaver the same thing as Samson D'Souza allegedly did on the beach screwed it up when he reached the vagina! To each his own intoxicant. The other NT report is pasted below. So the PEOPLE'S CAMPAIGN or abhiyan [the term 'crusade' has rather sick imagery to one who truly believes in Jesus Christ] would have to involve the CLEAN UP of 1. The VALUE SYSTEM we inculcate in our children by our own lives, spending money to ply them with goodies and access to nightclubs, etc in lieu of spending TIME with them. 2. The UNETHICAL media standards, where circulation justifies the 'dope' in the pages. 3. The MAFIA in the Police force. 4. The DRUG mafia in the citizenry or resident tourists. 5. The CARNIVAL/SHIGMO/FUN FETE and CASINO CULTURE of the local administration, specially the Tourism, Information Publicity and Finance/Excise related departments as well as pseudo-cultural and pseudo-religious institutions. WE HAVE TO
[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 39 - GIRL KILLED IN ACCIDENT
It was so disturbing to hear the news of young Jessila Carvalho Who was hurrying on a cycle her academic prowess to show, When she was struck from behind by a careless truckdriver An accident from which she failed to be a survivor – Oh what an untimely, sad and most tragic way that was to go! It is not only in Goa that such accidents occur And do not cause much more than a local stir, But it is still important that we voice our outrage And a battle against such errant drivers stage If we want their carelessness to minimise or deter. - Shanti Dhoot Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:05:54 +0530 From: Goa Desc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] GOA's KILLER ROADS:Navelim school girl crushed to death by loaded truck To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rawanfond girl crushed to death - A pall of gloom descended on Rawanfond area after a 16-year old girl student was crushed under the wheels of a loaded truck at Rawanfond on Wednesday afternoon. A student of Rosary High School, Navelim, young Jessila Carvalho as usual was heading towards Navelim on her cycle for the afternoon tuitions in view of the fast-approaching SSC examinations, when she was knocked down by the truck from behind. The girl was run over by the truck when she came under the rear wheels. She breathed her last on the spot.
[Goanet] CM Digamber Kamat - I have full faith in the officers
**Mr. CM, please note that we Goans do not have faith in You your officers you know why. First get rid of the curruption and then speak . Goa CM Digamber Kamat ruled out a CBI probe into Scarlett's death as sought by her mother Fiona MacKeown and said he was optimistic that police would soon solve the case. I have full faith in the officers. There's no need for a CBI inquiry, he said. The CM also sought to blame Fiona. The mother should have cared for her children. She left her minor daughter with someone else. Tourists visiting here should be careful. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Oh , Ravi , Ravi....how you disappoint us
Dear Goanetters , Scarlette Keeling's mum , a gypsy from the outbacks of the English west country , has levelled serious accusations against Ravi Naik , the ex-CM , current Home minister , undisputed leader of the vast Goan Bahujan Samaj and potential CM in waiting ( in wake of the brewing revolt by Pandurang Madkaikar and the Bahujan Samaj lobby ) And what does the great Ravi Naik do ? At a hastly convened press conference late on 15th March 08 , a visibly agitated , perturbed and shaken Ravi Naik produces the following gems : 1 ) A threat to investigate Fiona Mackeown's antecedents !! ( What are you going to achieve by doing this , Mr Naik ?and would it not have been better for your police force to be a bit more focussed in their initial investigation of the poor child's death a month back before brushing it off as accidental drowning ? ) 2 ) There is a strong lobby of politicians and vested business interests behind Mrs Mackeown !!! ( Oh really , Mr Naik ?and is this lobby also behind the cover up attempt made by the chief of forensic medicine in Goa and the Goan police ? ) COME ON , RAVI.go on and file a libel case for defamation. It is not a question of getting any money off this lady ( which she has non of ). It is a question of your reputation. And IF you ( or your immediate family ) have no connection with drug cartels in Goa , we will all back you. Here is some help from Bab Gabe Menezes on the litigation process. http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan032.pdf And oh yes , Ravibe quick, the news about you being in cahoots with drug lords is spreading like wildfire ( as you can see below ) : THE INDEPENDENT ( UK ) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/goa-minister-linked-with-drugs-mafia-scarletts-mother-claims-796624.html DAILY NEWS and ANALYSIS http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1156268 NDTV ( update on yesterday ) http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080044143ch=3/16/2008%208:48:00%20AM CNN IBN http://www.ibnlive.com/news/check-fionas-background-goa-minister-asks-uk-govt/61315-3.html THE TELEGRAPH http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080316/jsp/frontpage/story_9025822.jsp DAIJIWORLD.COM http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=44654n_tit=Panaji%3A+Home+Minister+Lashes+back+at+British+Mother+ THE HINDU ( update ) http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/16/stories/2008031659250900.htm M C .COM ( South Asia e-newsmagazine ) http://news.monstersandcritics.com/southasia/news/article_1395496.php/Mother_of_dead_British_girl_criticises_Goa_police_government DAILYINDIA.COM http://www.dailyindia.com/show/225056.php/Scarlette-Keelings-mother-alleges-police-politician-drug-mafia-nexus warm regards, anand ( Dr Anand Virgincar ) _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com
[Goanet] copy of email Congratulation AICF on COACHING PROGRAMME
This was a good circular/notice . uploaded on the AICF website may be on 12 or 13 Jan 2008 INFORMATION TO ALL OFFICE BEARERS, STATE ASSOCIATIONS CHESS PLAYERS COACHING PROGRAMME http://www.indianchessfed.org/News/2008/January/coachingprogramme01.asp I as a Secretary of Taleigao Chess Academy by my email dt. Jan 13, 2008 (copy enclosed) had congratulated AICF for coming out with coaching programme. Copies of this email had been sent to Acting Secretary as well as President of GSCA. Congratulation Reply fromshrikant barve [EMAIL PROTECTED] hide details Jan 13 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc augusto pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] dateJan 13, 2008 3:04 PM subject Congratulation mailed-by gmail.com To AICF Executive committee Congratulation Taleigao Chess Academy congratulate you all for courageously fighting facing and overcoming all the odds meticulously. Its very heartening to note that you are going to start coaching camps for children. It was long standing demand of the parents. It's a good New Year gift for all promising chess playing kids from AICF. Taleigao Chess Academy wishes due success in all your efforts. With regards (Shrikant Vinayak Barve) Secretary : Taleigao Chess Academy 2451143/9326132702 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : At Anjuna beach, an air of siege
This message was sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED], as a service of dnaindia.com -- Comments from sender : GDAY F.N. BOSCO AND GOANET. PLEASE POST THIS. THANK YOU. R.GOES -- Full Story can be found at http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1156266 At Anjuna beach, an air of siege Undercover cops at nightclubs, regular incidents of molestation of foreigners at night and the worst scenario for the wannabe hippie: fake LSD. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = For news updates throughout the day, visit dnaindia.com http://www.dnaindia.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = © 2005-2008 Diligent Media Corporation Ltd. All rights reserved.
Re: [Goanet] Goans in pain!
Gabe Menezes wrote: That is the bid price if one is a lender is at 3-1/8 and if one is a borrower the rate is 3-1/4 percent. Now the crux is if the lender can lend to the intended borrower. Every Bank has a trading and lending limit for each other. Moreover there are mark ups for different tier banks. For some Banks the credit just dries up and there isn't even a price at which money can be obtained - ask Bear Stearnsperhaps shortly to be followed by Lehman Bros. The USA under Republicans does not interfere with markets ? :-)) Gabe, The essence of the capitalist system is freedom. For the successful, it is freedom to grow. For the non-successful, it is the freedom to fail. George Bush and Co have turned this freedom upside down. The most incompetent money managers in history have been assured that the US govt will throw them a life line, if and only if, they continue in their incompetence. This policy reminds me of last days of the good ol' USSR. Secondly, the US govt has moved its priorities from controlling inflation and/or stimulating the economy. The area they are now concentrating on is supporting stock prices. They are doing this by: 1) Printing more money. 2) Spending it like drunken sailors. Any Goan getting paid in US dollars is hurting. Real bad. AND the worst is yet to come. Mervyn3.0 The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency. - Vladimir Lenin - Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
[Goanet] India: No intention of banning the BlackBerry
India: No intention of banning the BlackBerry India is not considering banning Research In Motion's BlackBerry services at this point, the top official in the telecommunications ministry said Friday. Security agencies have raised concerns that the service posed a risk, as e-mails sent using it could not be traced or intercepted. There is no question of banning, at this point, Telecommunications Secretary Siddhartha Behura told reporters on the sidelines of an industry conference, adding that the telecommunications department was very keen that the services should continue. The department of telecommunications has told RIM officials of the concerns. It plans to meet representatives of the four mobile-phone service providers offering BlackBerry in India on Friday evening, Behura said. Sector leader Bharti Airtel, No. 2 Reliance Communications, Vodafone-controlled Vodafone Essar, and privately held BPL Mobile provide BlackBerry service in India. http://news.zdnet.com/2110-1035_22-6234397.html
[Goanet] Mother of dead girl deserves sympathy - 7days.ae
Mother of dead girl deserves sympathy Last Updated : Sunday 16 Mar, 2008 - unfortunate incident in Goa, India where the young British tourist Scarlet got drugged, raped and finally drowned to death on the beach has shocked the entire world . Scarlets mother Fiona has found fingers pointing towards her for being a bad mother, that she was in some way responsible for the circumstances that led to her daughters brutal death. We all make mistakes. Let us accept it. The mothers intention was not to get her child killed. Fiona is paying heavily for her lack of judgement and has to live with it forever. Errol dsouza Dubai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Clarification
Hello Fredrick i read a comment on pen pricks saying ---
Both Armstrong Vaz and the Herald have taken the story from a Korean
website. The only difference is, Herald has partially rewritten the story,
while Mr Vaz has lifted it lock, stock and barrel.
And look who's complaing...
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Here is an article which i wrote for the korean site and it is no the first
one for them
here is the link to the other articles of mine for the korean website --
http://english.ohmynews.com/english/article_list.asp
Leisure Boating Business Set for a Boom in India Construction of marinas to
give boost to big-spending tourists
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Published 2008-03-12 11:20 (KST)
Queen Mary 2 set sail on its 23-night cruising journey from Sydney to
Dubai, on Feb. 26 and will be visiting Yokohama, Hong Kong, Bangkok,
Singapore and Goa with a night's stay in Dubai.
The fare pegged at US$7,899 per person twin-share is a figure well above the
reach of the rich Indian a few years ago. But things are changing in India,
with a booming economy, Indians keen in splurging their extra fads of cash
have varied options in the holiday market and cruising is one of them.
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For many Indians, owning a luxury yacht is one dream they cherish.
Jeriton Dias, an Indian from western state of Goa is one of them. He is
sailing on Queen Mary 2. He has not bought a cruising holiday but he is one
of the 1,200 odd staff. For him the cruising holiday does not entice him and
his family anymore. He is looking to own a yacht, both for leisure and
business option and park it in Goa and explore more of the rural Goa.
Owning a luxury yacht and parking it in a designated marina in Indian waters
is a dream most Indians look forward to. Now question arises whether India
has sufficient marinas? Optimistic Indians have dreams for leisure boating
in India.
But is India ready for a leisure boating boom? Can a country, which does not
have any marinas along its coast, rival to overtake up market destinations
like French Riviera?
In the absence of marinas, parking can be a nightmare for yacht owners in
India and Goa is one of them.
But, the leisure boating industry is set to change if entrepreneur's plans
to set up marinas in Goa and on the Konkan coast get the mandatory
environmental green signals from the government.
One of them is a business tycoon from Goa and a keen water sports lover,
Umaji V Chowgule, MD, Goa Yacht Haven Pvt Ltd. Chowgule, whose family
business interests range from mining to brewing the popular Arlem beer in
Goa, is planning to build a 300-boat marina in Sancoale village, in Mormugao
Taluka, at the mouth of the Zuari river in Goa with an investment of Rs 100
crore (US$2.5 million).
The construction of the marina is set to give Goa's aim to get high-spending
foreign tourists a shot in the arm, which the tourism authorities and
ministers have trying to push albeit unsuccessfully over the last few years.
Goa, as of now, as a tourist destination, has been a favourite haunt for
back packers and low and middle budget foreign tourists.
The berthing facility for marinas is also likely to create around 1,000 to
2,000 jobs directly or indirectly related to industry.
A marina is a berth's facility where boats are
[Goanet] Goa police question mother of dead British teenager
Goa police question mother of dead British teenager 16 hours ago PANAJI, India (AFP) — The mother of a British teenager raped and killed in India's Goa state was questioned by detectives Saturday about her claims of a cover-up involving drug lords, top police and politicians. Fiona MacKeown, whose eldest daughter Scarlett Keeling, 15, was found dead on Goa's popular Anjuna beach on February 18, was questioned as a witness and not as a suspect, Goa police superintendent Bosco George told AFP. We'd called her to record her statement as it's important for us in this case. We wanted to clarify and know several things, especially because she had raised several doubts about the police investigation, George said. Meanwhile, Goa's home minister Ravi Naik, who MacKeown has angrily accused of having links with drug dealers, dismissed her comments as foolish and demanded a probe into her background and source of income. Goa police have thoroughly probed the case and booked the people (responsible), Naik said. How can she charge us of having nexus with the drug traders? Police officer George denied media reports that MacKeown had been charged with negligence for leaving her daughter with strangers in Goa while she holidayed with her other children in neighbouring Karnataka state. Keeling had remained in Goa, a former Portuguese colony, at the home of a 21-year-old local man. Police on Thursday arrested a local barman Samson D'Souza, 29, and alleged drug dealer, Placido Carvalho, as prime suspects in Keeling's death. Keeling was fed a lethal cocktail of drugs, raped and left on the beach where she was found dead. When her bruised and partially naked body was found, police at first said she had drowned in the Arabian Sea. But a second autopsy demanded by MacKeown prompted police to launch a murder probe after as many as 50 injuries were found on her body. Goa is a beautiful place and I love Goans, MacKeown said, adding the incident had brought shame to India. To my mind good people don't deserve an environment controlled by a drug mafia under the protection of a few corrupt police officers and politicians, she said. http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gLHLhcKJmXEYFnBA3JdoLkN7K94g -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England COMMENT: Now let's see where this goes...
Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning
Hi Fr. Ivo, For a supurlo goenkar to get sincere blessings from a padre is real meaningful. Perhaps you did not read my last post to you. Here is a repeat posting since I appreciate your thoughts on this topic: Every one had an opportunity to seek Fr. Ivo's opinion. My questions are not directly related to religion. Yet they are related to VALUES - social, religious, common-sense, etc.. So feel free to state that the issues that I am seeking some answers / comments have nothing to do with religion. To cut to the chase: Recently in the USA media the following alarming statistics was presented: Nearly 40% of US babies in 2006 were born outside of marriage (to single mothers). In 1980, this statistic was 18%. Some of the 40% single mothers will marry the father of their child with whom they are in a live-in relation. That is the good news about the 2006 statistic. The bad news: Given that half of marriages end in divorce, the 60% of the babies born to married couples will likely grow up with only one of their biological parent. Given this high statistics of these problems, I do not think the weak-link in the individual single mother and certainly not the baby who is the unintentional victim. I think this is A System Failure. If in a corporation, 40% of their product was 'defective' (for want of a better term) and the other 60% would have a very high probability to fail, (for want of a better term), that corporation would be out of business, with no one buying their product. So Fr. Ivo what is your analysis of what and why is this going-on in American society? I will accept your response, Aiz hanv itlo okupadd, goanet posts vachunk mhaka bilkull vell mellunknam.” :=)) Thanks in anticipation. Kind Regards, GL - Fr. Ivo da C. Souza Thank you, Dr. Gilbert, you gave your readers Theology made easy, though you are a scientist, an oncologist (as I can glean from your writings). You are a khoro Goenkar. May God bless you! --- Gilbert Lawrence, Whatever happened to: There is one God and there are several ways to get to heaven? Of course to get to heaven, the soul has to live after death. Oops! did I say something heretical - like soul, life after death, heaven and God?
Re: [Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
jc's comment: Whenever LIBEL suits arise, one wonders if we know what that means and how difficult they are to prove. To succeed in any libel suit, Ravi Naik must show not only that the offending statement is false, but also that Fiona MacKeown either knew it to be false or did not care whether it was true or not. (The bar in Indian libel law might be set a wee bit lower) On 16/03/2008, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The burden of proof in libel cases is reversed; in effect Fiona would have to prove that she did not libel. Please see:- http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan032.pdf Also check up law books on libel. --- jc's response: Dear Gabe, The UK law is different (and ? likely to be amended) than the US and possibly the Indian law. Fighting a 'libel action' is both complex, costly and in may cases fruitless. Effectively - there would have to be three (practical) pre-requisites for this case to succeed a: Ravi Naik would have to have a reputation that was slandered. b: The slander would have caused Ravi Naik to lose his job c: Fiona would have to have money I get the feeling that Ravi Naik is not necessarily Anand Virgincar's favourite politician. Anand has thrown the proverbial gauntlet to him i.e. Hey Ravi ...you want to stand up in court and defend your reputation?! jc BTW: attached stuff available on some open mini-law (UK) sites http://www.swarb.co.uk/lawb/defGeneral.shtml This ends my knowledge on the subject ==[ENDS]== Defamation - General and Links . The law of defamation is complex. Rely upon nothing you read here without first taking direct advice on your particular problem. Having said that anyone can be a fully fledged expert on defamation. You need only know to 'Just say No.' Neither encourage actions against you, nor, ever, under whatever provocation, begin a libel action. Defamation protects reputation, no more. Words are defamatory if they tend to reduce the reputation of the claimant in the minds of right thinking members of the public. Words are frequently both defamatory and true. A claimant must show that : Defamatory words (in the relevant and particular context) were published (i.e. somebody other than the claimant and the defendant saw the words, and they caused damage to reputation. The claimant must have a reputation which can be damaged. A defendant may, by way of answer, establish that: one of the essential elements is absent; or the defamatory words are true. This is the atom bomb defence. Whichever wins, claimant or respondent, takes all; or some other (several possibilities) reason protects the publication in law. This may be some form, of privilege, or innocence. a suitable offer of amends has been made There are two sub-species of defamation, libel and slander. Libel is when the defamation is written down (including most particularly electronically), and slander is when the incident relates to words spoken. In general, mere abuse is not defamatory, but it can take a clever person to insult another without straying over the line into defamation. The better the insult, the closer to the edge.
[Goanet] Of Xenophobics and Patriots
Dear Goanetters , On 12 March 08 the patriotic Dayanand Narvekar said that there should be a restriction / ban on sale of Goan lands to non Indian nationals. On 13 March 08 the xenophobic Dr Rajan Parrikar stated on this forum that this ban should be extended to Indian nationals who are not of Goan origin. On 14 March 08 ( to my sheer delight ) the few patriotic Indians on this forum castigated Rajan in no uncertain terms. On 15 March 08 ( to my utter distress ) more than a few Goan sons of the soil fully supported what Rajan had suggested ( look at newspaper links below if you are uncertain ) List of xenophobic Goenkars who agree with Dr Rajan Parrikar : ( specially prepared so the Indian patriots on this forum can write to them and censure them as they did with Rajan ) # DR FRANCISCO COLACO ( of the apolitical Lok Shakti ) # POORNANAND CHARI ( convenor of Goa Hitrakan Manch ) # ADV. RYAN MENEZES # MATANHY SALDANHA # PANDURANG RAUT ( president MGP ) # ADV. JOAQUIM GODINHA # MANOHAR PARRIKAR # ANTHONY DA SILVA ( organiser of a signature campaign supporting this terrible idea...and collecting several hundred signatures every day ) # PRASHANT NAIK ( spokesperson for Goa Hitrakan Manch ) Newslinks : http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1101cid=2 http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1125cid=26 http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=1123cid=26 regards, anand ( Dr Anand Virgincar ) _ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com
Re: [Goanet] Oh , Ravi , Ravi....how you disappoint us
On 16/03/2008, anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Here is some help from Bab Gabe Menezes on the litigation process. http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan032.pdf RESPONSE: No help at all, for a better angle on libel and defamation, perhaps this site might better help. Also w.r.t. internet postings ! http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/A1183394 Libel cases are usually settled out of Court with an apology withdrawing the malcontent. At the end of the day it might be deemed, to be a sledgehammer to a nut, the mother is emotionally distressed and cornered - does she really know what she is embarking on ? Many a time, it is simply not worth pursuing a libel case, for instance, had I taken my own Association to task, I would have been, on a loose and loose situation, no matter what the outcome, people would have turned against me, for screwing the already downtrodden. I believe that justice will prevail and those that go out of their way, willfully with malicious intent, to defame, will get their comeuppance, if not here then in the next ! Our Catholic brethren, of course, are impervious to such chiding and will smile ! For them there is no tomorrow, only today. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Scarlet murder-Bailancho Saad Press Release
14TH MARCH 2008. PRESS RELEASE Bailancho Saad compliments the mother of Scarlet Keeling for her fight to get justice for her daughter and raising issues which have always been downplayed and not addressed in several other cases. There have been serious procedural lapses in registering the case,in investigations, collection of evidence, medical reports and its interpretation which required intervention from the highest level to rectify it. It has been the experience of organizations that whenever a crime is reported, it is not registered under those sections of law which treats these crimes as serious criminal offences .It is only when pressure is built up through media, politicians ,women’s organizations etc that the cases get registered. The ordinary woman who does not have access to influential people do not get justice. Bailancho Saad has been closely monitoring the case and has met Superintendent of Police Mr Bosco George, Ms Fiona mother of Scarlett and her lawyer Mr Verma in this regard. While condemning the drugging , rape and murder of Scarlett, Bailancho Saad stated that the scenario in Goa is getting worse due to rampant promotion of alcohol and drugs. With the advent of casinos in the state the situation is going to get out of hand and more and more people, more so locals will be the victims. There is no enforcement of excise laws and bars are open till early morning along the coast .It is a known fact that drugs are freely available in the coastal belt with the patronage provided by the police and politicians.It is also a known fact that no person will lodge complaint against drug peddler in the police station due to this nexus. With the coming of casinos in Mandovi river Goa will soon become a place where respectable tourist will abhor visiting. The state has to take responsibility for making Goa unsafe by its policies of promotion of vices rather than shift the blame on the mother. Bailancho Saad is of the opinion that the freedom of movement of women especially at night is being violated by the unsafe environment. Women’s right to work during the night shifts cannot be enforced because of this unsafe atmosphere. On the one hand the govt promotes night life for tourism and then blames the women for venturing into these places . Bailancho Saad states that the campaign against Scarlett’s mother has been launched because she exposed the failure of the administration. Scarlette was left in a house where two aunts were also living . Many parents leave their children in the care of people they trust like neighbours, friends .Many young girl students stay as paying guests in families especially when no hostel accommodation is available. Rape is mostly premeditated and is by persons known to the victim .It can happen anywhere and in most of the cases happens in the homes in broad daylight. The issue is breach of trust by the males who take advantage of a woman’s vulnerability in certain circumstances. While the huge media pressure may move the wheels of justice, many a woman do not register cases for fear of adverse publicity and harrowing procedures . Invariably there are allegations and pack of lies that one has to encounter, as is evident in this case.The case is far from solved. There are still several obstacles on the way. It is just a beginning of a long fight to punish the guilty. There is considerable delay in rape cases as the specimens for analysis is sent to Hyderabad. While the govt does not have to pay for tests done in the forensic lab in Hyderabad, the reports are received anywhere between six months to two years. SP Bosco George stated that the government has paid Rs 20,000/- to get the chemical analysis done elsewhere quickly, in this case. Bailancho Saad reiterates its demand for a full fledged forensic lab in Goa for speedy justice of all rape trials. Bailancho Saad is of the opinion that for justice to prevail ,the investigations should be handed over to an independent investigating agency CBI ,as the police officers right from the top to down were involved in covering up the crime by stating on record that it was an accidental death. Sabina Martins For Bailancho Saad
[Goanet] BBC E-mail: Scarlett mother 'feels harassed'
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- RUBY GOES saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you should see it. ** Message ** GREETINGS F.N. GOANET, PLEASE POST THIS. THANKS. R. GOES. ** Scarlett mother 'feels harassed' ** Journalists have descended on Goa to follow the investigation into the murder of British teenager Scarlett Keeling. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7298093.stm ** BBC Daily E-mail ** Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all in one daily e-mail http://www.bbc.co.uk/email ** Disclaimer ** The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views or opinions. Please note that neither the e-mail address nor name of the sender have been verified. If you do not wish to receive such e-mails in the future or want to know more about the BBC's Email a Friend service, please read our frequently asked questions. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/4162471.stm
[Goanet] Palm Sunday - Traditional Procession (pics)
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Panjim Traditonal Procession.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2338959866/sizes/l/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
[Goanet] Scarlett mother 'feels harassed'
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Scarlett mother 'feels harassed' By Soutik Biswas BBC News, Panaji, Goa Fiona MacKeown Scarlett's mother accused the police of a cover-up Dozens of journalists have descended on a corner of India to follow the investigation into the murder of British teenager Scarlett Keeling, as many questions about her death remain unanswered. On a sunny morning, the media scrum outside the handsome, brown-tiled building that houses the Goa police's special juvenile unit in the capital, Panaji, was frenziedly speculating about why Fiona MacKeown had been summoned there. On Friday night, two constables had knocked on Ms MacKeown's door and handed a summons to her to appear next morning at the unit's offices in connection with the rape and murder of her 15-year-old daughter. Scarlett was drugged and left for dead on a beach in Goa last month, after being left by her mother in the care of a 25-year-old tour guide that she had befriended in the resort of Anjuna. Two men have been arrested. Her mother and her six other children had travelled to the neighbouring state of Karnataka. There was no suggestion that they are investigating me Fiona MacKeown The summons sparked speculation that she would be questioned about allegations of failing to provide a safe environment for Scarlett under Goa's five-year-old Children's Act which claims to promote and protect the best interests of children in the state. After 105 minutes inside the police unit, Ms MacKeown walked out with her lawyer to tell the scrum that she had just given a statement - recorded on a video camera - about what she knew about the case. There was no suggestion that they are investigating me. I told them what had happened, and the police are treating me as a witness, she said. They [the police] were not aggressive with me... but that doesn't rule out the fact that I feel intimidated and harassed by this whole process, she said. Minutes later, Bosco George, the police superintendent investigating the case, came out and the media scrum moved to him. We asked whether she can help us, give us some leads [to the investigation], a calm Supt George said. Distressed In response to the BBC's question whether Ms MacKeown was co-operating with police, Supt George smiled and mopped the sweat on his brow. The fact that she has arrived here is co-operation, isn't it, he said wryly. Scarlett Keeling. Picture: Barcroft Media Two men have been arrested over Scarlett's death When Ms MacKeown had arrived at the police unit in the morning, she looked shaken and distressed. I don't know what they will ask me. They are just harassing me, she said, adding that she had been already questioned once early during the investigation. The police have lied to me. They have told me Scarlett's body was found floating in the sea, that she was wearing swimwear, that her body had no bruise or struggle marks. They have cajoled and convinced me that it is a simple case of drowning and I must take her body back home quickly. She distributed photocopies of seven pages of various letters and statements which she said supported her allegations. Let the courts give its verdict on the quality of investigation Supt Bosco George One of the documents was a Goa police first information report dated 9 March on Scarlett's death, that mistakenly said Ms MacKeown's father's name was Mr Sukumar Desarkar, a very Indian name. Supt George conceded that was an error. A statement by Ms MacKeown alleged she had information that the drugs mafia in Goa had a strong nexus with a senior Goa minister and a police official. But Supt George denied allegations there was a police conspiracy to hush up the investigations. Wild allegations...what is this police conspiracy? he said. Let the courts give its verdict on the quality of investigation. Let the courts decide whether it was shoddy or not. Speculation The police have admitted that there have been serious lapses in investigation and suspended a policeman who was initially investigating the case. They have denied charges of a cover-up. At the end of it all, the thinning scrum covering Goa's biggest story this year speculated for the last time. Why did the police call Ms MacKeown to a juvenile unit of the department for a statement? Had they initially planned on questioning her on neglecting her child, and later changed their mind? If so, why? There are still many unanswered questions in the Scarlett Keeling case. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7298093.stm
[Goanet] WE THE PEOPLE in Goa on the Scarlett Keeling Murder
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- A lot many good points were raised. I still fail to see why Barkha is so eager to get a hot potch of lots of irrelevant points, instead of just guiding the debate in a single direction. At the end of the day, there was no assurance from the minister, we still do not have a clear picture of the nexus underbelly and the insider-outsider debate will leave many who are unaware of these growing undercurrents of resentment confused. To make things worse, more airtime was given to Alexio Sequiera than to someone like Oscar Rebello who had crisper, meaningful and more relevant points to make. A few core issues that have emerged from the Scarlett Keeling case - 1) Much as we would like to blame this crime on outsiders (read as non-Goans), the culprits were very much Goan. So the hospitable and friendly Goans have darker shades to them and i am glad the world knows it well now. 2) There exists a murky network between drug peddlers and cops. Drugs are available in Goa. More easily than we would like to think. That is the truth. 3) Getting caught with their pants down in front of international media will not change the Goan cops. Some things are beyond repair. 3) To the single female tourist - If you do not go out alone at 4 a.m. anywhere else in India because you think it is unsafe, why go out in Goa? 4) To mothers of 15 year olds - You do not leave your 15 year olds alone in Goa. 15 year olds are never at fault. At 15, most people want to try everything. 5) There have been murders and rapes of foreigners before in Goa, which have gone unreported. Some have been passed off as suicide or drowning cases. The reason the Scarlett Keeling murder got front page attention was because her mother chose to fight and the national and international media paid attention. 6) The press in Goa are a complete sham. Laughable. One of the three P's in Goa that compete with each other to be the prized puppets in the hands of the rich and powerful, the other two being the Politicians and the Police. 7) We need good people in power. We can have all the Andolans in the world, but Alexio Sequeira will get more time to drive home his point than an Oscar Rebello. Jason --- Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Frankey, Looks like the media has become a pack of jackals or hyenas, feeding on what someone else has killed. Fiona Mackeowne, the mother of the dead Scarlett Eden Keeling became NDTV's bait to get celebrities on the Baga-Calangute beach on a sultry Sunday afternoon at 4.00 P.M.. What got discussed was property sales and ownership, Goan v/s non-Goan ...and Scarlett's death almost in the passing. I believe the only persons who made a forceful point each were 1. Ms. Alice D'Cruz [nee Banneto] from Saligao who stated that her personal perception is that the beaches in Goa are not as safe today as they used to be ten years ago and 2.Remo Fernandes who sang a song about Heroin seizures written in 1985 ...that still made sense today. Drugs and safety of a woman on the beach were the only issues that concerned Scarlett. She was not about to buy property at Anjuna or Siolim that Barkha was unfortunately discussing with the Chief Secretary of Goa, Mr. J.P. Singh ... apparently for the viewers back home in Delhi at the Times Property show. Great show. Poor Scarlett. May her soul rest in peace while her name will continue to be used in vain. Mog asundi. Miguel frankey fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PRESS NOTE NDTV will telecast a debate on Sun, sand and snort Is Goas underbelly exposed? on We the People at 8 pm on Sunday. To be anchored by NDTV Managing Editor Barkha Dutt, the panelists on the debate include Power Environment Minister Alexio Sequeira, Chief Secretary J P Singh, Herald Editor Ashwin Tombat, Pop Star Remo Fernandes, Socialite Bina Ramani, Author Maria Couto, writer Sonia Faleiro, GBA Convenor Dr Oscar Rebello, Journalist Sudip Chakrabothi, former SP Alex Rasquinha and restaurant owner Manish Mukhija The debate will be recorded near Marina shack at Baga Beach on Sunday at 4 pm. Recent Activity 1 New Members 1 New Links Visit Your Group Curves on Yahoo! Share discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. Special K Group on Yahoo! Groups Learn how others are losing pounds. Yahoo! Groups Dog Zone Connect w/others who love dogs. .
[Goanet] Goa news for March 17, 2008
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Signature campaign against Goa Property Show gets good response - Navhind Times [Mar 15, 2008] The signature campaign against Goa Property Show started by Mr Anthony DSilva, a resident of Assolna, has been getting tremendous response since its launch ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031610cid=1142589191ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** German molested on beach in Goa - Hindu [2 hours ago] PANAJI: Close on the heels of the controversy surrounding the death of British teenager Scarlette Keeling in north Goa, a woman tourist from Germany lodged ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/17/stories/2008031757330100.htmcid=1143002498ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** Fiona MacKeown wanted to settle down in Goa - Hindu [17 hours ago] London (PTI): Fiona MacKeown, mother of British teenager Scarlett Keeling who was murdered in Goa, wason a recce mission to the Indian state as she wanted ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200803161122.htmcid=1138055169ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** Goa bans foreigners from buying properties - NDTV.com [Mar 14, 2008] Against the backdrop of cases of foreign land mafia and drug cartels buying real estate in Goa, the state government on Fridaybanned foreigners from ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080044076ch=3/15/2008%201:03:00%20AMcid=1142521815ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** Creaky paradise - Hindustan Times [7 hours ago] Goa Police investigating the case say that Scarlett's personal diary can be a base to prosecute him under statutory rape charge. Two days ago, a friend and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=ef634b82-ab2f-47fa-a4df-35793a20979fParentID=558091cc-780f-4b53-98b4-300d5c30aab7cid=1143089879ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** UK teens mum and Goa minister trade charges - Daily News Analysis [Mar 15, 2008] She is simply trying to divert the main case of her daughters rape and murder to malign Goa and India with ulterior motives. There must have been some ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1156268cid=1143102367ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** TODAY\'S EDITORIAL: Clean Up Goa - Times of India [Mar 14, 2008] With its rich cultural and religious traditions, Goa offers a heady mix of the old and the new. However, over the years, it has also become an attractive ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/TODAYS_EDITORIAL_Clean_Up_Goa/articleshow/2867196.cmscid=1142844902ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** Goa government to clean up coastline - Hindu [Mar 15, 2008] PANAJI: In the wake of the alleged drugging and murder of a British teenager, the Goa government has undertaken a clean-up drive on its coastline. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/16/stories/2008031655580900.htmcid=1142848433ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** Goa Velha enter Aldona Cup quarter-finals - Navhind Times [Mar 15, 2008] Goa Velha Sports Club, down by two goals, fought gallantly against Saligao United Club to win 8-7 via the sudden death, to enter the quarter-finals of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031626cid=0ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA *** ESI to set up diagnostic centre in N Goa - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] Dr Lotlikar informed that the ESI is Indiaâ#130;¬#132;¢s topmost security scheme and there are 1, 27590 beneficiaries itself in Goa. The Vasco centre has over 1 ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031743cid=0ei=e63dR46zH4aCqwOB8JD-DA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Security beefed up at churches in Dubai
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Security beefed up at churches in Dubai 16 March 2008 DUBAI - In what seems to be for the first time in the UAE, Dubai Police have started checking Christian churchgoers in Jebel Ali and Oud Metha from Friday. Police said the move was to ensure security as a huge number of people were expected to visit churches because of the Christian holy week starting from today and leading to Easter. On Friday, police did not allow any churchgoers to drive their cars near to the churches. Police also checked the bags of people entering the churches. In Jebel Ali, according parishioners, police arranged special buses for commuting them to the church from a nearby supermarket. Similarly, police closed down all the parking lots near the churches in Oud Metha and insisted that the parishioners must park their vehicles at a distance. All the byroads leading to the churches were also closed and several policemen were at the entrance of each church in the vicinity. Entrances of some churches were closed. Officers were searching bags and frisking visitors. Dr Jamal Mohammed Al Merri, Deputy Commander-in-Chief of Dubai Police, told Khaleej Times that they could send police officials to check on people, especially during celebrations and events when there could be a huge gathering at one place. Certain measures had to be taken to ensure people's safety and security on special occasions and festivities. Asked whether there was any specific threat, Al Merri said there was no such threat but the police needed no specific time for carrying out checks. Our aim is not to disturb people while celebrating or worshipping, but is to ensure their safety. We are checking all locations and every person, regardless of his religion, race or social background, said Al Merri. He said the people should not worry and it was just a normal security measure being taken whenever there was a big gathering to ensure smooth traffic movement and also to monitor the parking areas. Most parishioners were grateful for the police presence but some others said they hesitated to enter the churches when they saw police manning the gates. Holy Trinity Church Pastor Wilcharles Lyimo said, It seems there're some security issues. It's not worrying though. It (police presence) is good for us if there are any security issue. Those who are committed to church will come. Long-serving pastors and church staff said there had never been a police presence or security issue surrounding Dubai churches before. Churches said they had been informed that the police would be around for about a week or till it deemed necessary. St Mary's Church Reverend Father Freddy de Souza said they had not noticed any concern among parishioners. Dalal Abougaber, who volunteers at both the St Mary's Church and Jebel Ali churches, said parking and traffic safety was causing more of a concern because cars were allowed in the vicinity of the churches. In Jebel Ali, there are buses to pick up people up from where they have parked their vehicles and drop them at the church, she said. A preacher in St Francis Church in Jebel Ali said, Police are doing their duty and they know what they do. We are thankful for their presence. George Sebastian, a parishioner, said, I have been visiting churches for the past 10 years. This is the first time police are checking people at the entrance of the church. http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/theuae/2008/March/theuae_March494.xmlsection=theuaecol=
Re: [Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Neither of us know what the questions were, or at least I do not. My views had strictly to do with adddresing Jerry Fernandes and not merely ignoring his question or saying, Its cool that India is the sixth most popular country in the world. I have no clue as to who Jerry Fernandes is, and I am sure there will be others who will post such questions; but that question deserved my kind of a response. I do not wish to get into statistical reasoning, but do know enough to say that data, and data towards certain opinions is often made to fit a conclusion. But if it is important to believe India's popularity, and that we should take the WASHINGTON (Agencies) excerpt from Jerry Fernandes at face value -- I concede. It does not hurt me to concede, since it gives me a better sense than I thought of how we see things. One example, The news report that I read said that 55% of the respondents viewed China negatively and 42% positively. I do not think this data would indicate love. The data simply indicates that MORE people viewed China negatively. Why bring in love in -- is this some kind of qualitative analysis? _ On another note, I finally see that the largely the topics that seems to run well on Goanet are politics as in governing the state, and Valmiki Faleiro's columns. Thanks heavens for those columns becuase no matter what (rain or shine, joy or depressin, I would think) they give one and all (people from every political motivation and those who are independent), glimpses into the near Goan past, while pointing towards the future of our making. This is my last post on India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans. venantius From: Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans Venantius Pinto says: I see Indians as reasonably proud people, but I do not see Indian politicians from the same mould. I do not know what exactly are the questions that were asked of the persons interviewed, but would it not be safe to presume that the opinion sought is of the Indians as a whole, and NOT of the politicians? In his earlier message, Venantius said: But despite such acts of belligerence and a fascinating insult to itself,they still love the Chinese. The news report that I read said that 55% of the respondents viewed China negatively and 42% positively. I do not think this data would indicate love. In case of India the respective figures are 22% and 69%. Sachin Phadte
[Goanet] EXCLUSIVE: Casual sex, drink and drugs
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- The Newspapers accuse the cops of being corrupt and they are no doubt...so who paid the cops for a copy of the dairy, encouraging their corruption? how many lakhs involved; Home minister, tourism minister kindly get to the bottom of this exclusivity ! Read on... EXCLUSIVE: Casual sex, drink and drugs: The disturbing last days of murdered schoolgirl Scarlett revealed in her own diary By DAVID ORR in Goa - More by this author » Last updated at 12:06pm on 16th March 2008 Comments (13) Murdered schoolgirl Scarlett Keeling was living a hedonistic life of sex, drugs and alcohol in the holiday haven of Goa in the weeks before her death. Scarlett, who was raped before being dumped in the sea, was, according to her mother Fiona MacKeown, having the time of her life during an open-ended family trip to the hippy resort. But now the final chapter of the tragic teenager's life can be told in her own words, through details in a diary found by police investigating her death - and her entries reveal a confused, lost and unhappy 15-year-old out of her depth after being left to fend for herself in the resort. Scroll down for more ... Holiday of a lifetime: But Scarlett's diary paints a very different picture Read more... Scarlett's spirit gave me the strength to survive, says older brother who nearly died after horrific car crash Let's kill him and rape his wife, screamed the mob. Welcome to Goa Scarlett's diary was discovered during a search of the cabin she was sharing with tour guide Julio Lobo in a village called Siolim. Mrs MacKeown was allowed to read the diary before Goan authorities took possession of it, making it part of the evidence. A number of copies are understood to have been made, one of which was shown to The Mail on Sunday. There is no mention in the diary of the two men accused of the killing: alleged drug-dealer Placido Carvalho - who is charged with supplying her with cocaine, ecstasy and LSD and 'facilitating' her murder - and Samson D'Souza, who is charged with rape and murder. It does, however, contain references to her family, her teenage boyfriend in England, Jardi, for whom she repeatedly declares her love, and Julio, 25, with whom she admits having sex. She also reveals episodes of drug and alcohol abuse in Goa - and also at school in England. In her final entry before leaving England in November she describes a farewell party where she got drunk, stoned and was trippin' on mushies (hallucinogenic mushrooms). Scroll down for more ... Relationship: Scarlett with boyfriend Julio Lobo shortly before her death The entry also confirms that Scarlett -legally a minor - was having sex with her boyfriend in England. She writes: I went two days without sex the other day, I started getting stressy. The diary entries - mostly undated - are written in a schoolbook. She signs some of them with her nickname, Skaz, and there are pages of childish drawings: a heart, two saxophones and unhappy cartoon faces, one of which has tears gushing from its eyes. The final page shows a stick figure hanging from a gallows. Underneath is Julio's name, address and telephone number. According to her diary, Scarlett met Julio at a full-moon party which would have put their first meeting - and first sexual encounter - as early as November 24, only days after her arrival in India. Scroll down for more ... Arrest: A police escort with Samson D'Souza who is accused of attacking Scarlett after his court appearance this week Scarlett writes: I was pretty messed up, like I had taken a pill and drunk a lot of vodka. I don't remember a lot but apparently we had sex and I can remember that much but it took two weeks b4 me and Julio were hangin out regularly. A subsequent entry again refers to her meeting with Julio and her confused feelings about him. I also met this guy Julio and I'm not sure how I feel. I still think of Jardi all the time and miss him every day. But then Julio came along and is taking me to Finland and has done so much for me and my family. But sometimes I just think he's using me, he says he loves me but I don't think so. Scroll down for more ... Scarlett and a female friend soak up the sun while in Goa She suspects he feels sorry for her because she lives in a field - a reference to the remote smallholding near Bideford, in Devon, home to Scarlett's family and a menagerie of animals. By now, the all-night parties and her sex life with Julio have evidently lost some allure. He treats me like I'm only with him 4 his money or sex and tries bribing me with
[Goanet] Fwd: Letter to the Editor
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Subject: BAN SALE OF GOAN LAND. The ban on the SALE of Goan Land to Foreigners is good but The REAL MUCH BIGGER URGENT NEED is to BAN SALE of Goan Land to all Non-Goans. Unlike other states, Goa has a very valid grounds to stop Land sales to non-locals, as we all will appreciate. We cannot allow our land to be sold to the extent, that we become a minority in our own home loose our identity. In addition to our personal actions/decisions, we need to pressurise our government to act boldly in this regard; look at all options and not be intimidated, by those quoting the constitution. Surely, the constitution does not intend to decimate any identity. And to re-iterate, there was no Goan input to the framing of the current Indian constitution, as Goa was not part of India at that time!! Last but not least, my thanks to the initiator's of the signature campaign from Assolna; against the Goa Property Show(Delhi) selling land to outsiders, Well Done!! Arwin Mesquita UAE.
[Goanet] Daily Haiku #44
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- DAILY HAIKU #44: _ CRABBY _ goans like crabs, strike with jabs. Aunty, Famous Indians, Haiku, Churchill cartoons, etc. ___ http://2008goanconvention.com/blog/index.php http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.php _ Spread the Love by installing 30 free Messenger Emoticons. Get them now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212
Re: [Goanet] Why Religion is not a private matter
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Dear Selma, I quite agree with you on this point. Different incidents which took place in Goa have confirmed this point. You wrote: I contend that neither sex nor religion are a private matters. *They are not private matters, but touch our human community. They are also related to several dimensions of human existence. If we are to survive then we must muster all the courage and conviction we have and speak up, speak out and speak against all that is wrong within our own religious dogmas as well as that of others. *Certainly we should be critical of everything and re-formulate our convictions with new lights. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Dear Doctor Anand. It seems that Scarlett's mom, came to know more of the politicians in Goa within six months, than all Goans who have been voting for these ministers all these years. Isnt it strange? Or has she been planning to be a citizen of our wonderful Goa, and than sit for elections? I wonder what her plans are. Cheers Jerry Fernandes From: anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Goanetters, Please see news links below : Scarlette Keeling's mum has today accused Ravi Naik of being hand in glove with the drug cartel in Goa. Among other pronounciations, she says : # Ravi Naik has a STRONG nexus with drug mafia # Ravi Naik has FULL knowledge of criminal activities in Goa # Ravi Naik does his BEST to protect criminals Just in case she does not know : # Ravi Naik is the current home minister of Goa ( which,by definition, means that he is in charge of maintaining law and order ) # Ravi Naik was chief minister of Goa for 2 and 1/2 years in the late 1990's # Ravi Naik could well be chief minister today but for the MGP MLA's vetoing the decision by the Congress high command in June 2007 ( although how the MGP could have influenced the powerful Delhi lobby when Digamber Kamat grovels before it is a mystery to me ) # Ravi Naik is the undisputed leader of the Bahujan Samaj in Goa ( and probably the greatest leader of that community to date ) COME ON RAVIthe reputation of Goa and Goans is at stake here. Assuming ( and hoping ) all this is untrue, please don't just issue the usual standard denials . Go on and file a libel case...we are all with you ( provided, of course, you or your immediate family have nothing to hide )
[Goanet] Analogy - monday-muse (17mar08)
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- MONDAY MUSE (17 March 2008) ANALOGY My favourite speaker, Dr Oscar Rebello was speaking at a public meeting about the land grab taking place in Goa and the complicity and connivance of the Government in aiding the illegalities… He could have rattled off facts and figures to buttress his argument. However, he once again exhibited his genius in connecting his communication with his heterogeneous audience. He spoke thus… Consider the case of our lovely mother who is a nice human being. She is caring and has done only good to others. Now consider our father who is an aggressor against our mother. He abuses her and worse, snatches her jewellery and household things and gives them to another woman. What should we, as children, do to our father who is brutalising our mother? The audience roared to say “teach him a lesson”… Oscar immediately made his analogy… Our lovely mother is our motherland, Goa. Our father is the Government that rules us. The other woman is money bags out to circumvent the law and loot Mother Nature of her precious possessions. Nothing more was required to be said. The message had been communicated in all its clarity. Analogy is the expression of the cognitive practice of transferring the message as understood by the speaker to the listener in a way that the listener can understand. It is based on the principle that effective communication is all about keeping it simple. The hall mark of a good communicator is the ability to BE BETTER at using the power of analogy as against the agony of wordiness. To BE BETTER in getting our message across, The use of analogy can sure reduce the fuss. regards Pravin-da 17 March 2008, Goa, India. Since 2004, the MONDAY MUSE series (based on JCI-India’s annual theme) is penned by PRAVIN SABNIS - a life coach with a passion to connect people to their passion potential. He employs creative competencies in theatre trekking in his UNLEARNING UNLIMITED workshops conducted for leading corporate other groups. 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html
[Goanet] murdered schoolgirl Scarlett revealed in her own diary
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=535288in_page_id=1811 Scarlett, who was raped before being dumped in the sea, was, according to her mother Fiona MacKeown, having the time of her life during an open-ended family trip to the hippy resort - Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! for Good
[Goanet] Alcoholmeters in the afternoon? Ketan, Jesila killed early in the morning.
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Dears, Two SSC students, Ketan Kudalkar of Loyola HS-Margao and Jesila Carvalho of O.L. of Rosary HS-Navelim were killed by heavy vehicles driven rashly IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. Testing drivers with alcohol meters in the afternoon will not change such incidents, specially as most of the schools wind up by lunch time. Normally, Ministers dither to deal with sub-judice matters. fitting of Speed Governors [to new vehicles , at least] is sub-judice at the Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court. Let us see how the cookie crumbles. The media have a great responsibility here. The bus and truck lobby has always been irresponsible. that is why the 12% ST Minister had threatened to use ESMA. Let us see what the 2% Minister will decide. Mog asundi. Miguel NAVHIND TIMES reports: Dhavalikar to decide on speed governors latest by tomorrow NT Staff Reporter Panaji, March 16 In his first major announcement, after taking over as the Transport Minister, Mr Ramkrishna Dhavalikar today said that he would decide on the volatile speed governor issue by tomorrow evening or latest by the day after tomorrow morning. He added, I have spoken to the bus owners and transport vehicle owners yesterday and today and will decide on the issue by tomorrow evening or latest by the day after morning. He was of the opinion that accidents can also be caused by alcohol and not just by speed. Earlier the division bench of the Bombay High Court comprising Mr Justice A P Lavande and Mr Justice N A Britto, is an ad interim order directed that no new notified transport vehicles could be registered under the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988, unless it was fitted with a speed governor.This order came about as a result of a public interest petition filed by the Society for Road Safety and Traffic Management which challenged the keeping in abeyance of the notification dated December 28, 2007 and bearing number 5/1/2007/TPT issued by the government, which made it mandatory for specified category of transport vehicles to be fitted with speed governors. Our Majorda Bureau adds: The Goa Bus Owners Association president, Mr Rajnikhant Naik today said that the executive members of the association met Mr Dhavalikar at circuit house in Panaji and submitted a list of demands to him. He said the executive members demanded the scrapping of the speed governors notification with immediate effect He further disclosed that the members requested the minister 1. to use alcoholmeters compulsorily for all the types of vehicles during the afternoon and 2. not to grant more permits on all routes with immediate effect as there are buses within a gap of every five minutes plying on the roads which, he said, results in competition, rash and negligent driving leading to accidents. The minister had promised to look into the matter, he said. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Scarlet murder-Bailancho Saad Press Release
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Sabina Martins For Bailancho Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1: Bailancho Saad COMPLIMENTS the mother of Scarlet Keeling for her fight to get justice for her daughter and raising issues which have always been downplayed and not addressed in several other cases. 2: Bailancho Saad states that the campaign against Scarlett's mother has been launched because she exposed the failure of the administration. 3: Scarlette was left in a house where two aunts were also living . Many parents leave their children in the care of people they trust like neighbours, friends .Many young girl students stay as paying guests in families especially when no hostel accommodation is available. 4: The issue is breach of trust by the males who take advantage of a woman's vulnerability in certain circumstances. -- jc's response: While I agree with Ms Martins wrt points 2, 4 and 1, I do not know if the word COMPLIMENT is the right choice of a word for this tragic situation. I submit that it is very insensitive of Bailancho Saad to use that word in this situation. I;d like to suggest the words: commends, supports etc I am troubled with # 2. Based on the details in the public domain, I'd say that NO responsible mother leaves a 15 year old child with a known 'charas' habit in the care of a third party without ensuring that the third party is responsible and trust-worthy. So what if there were Aunts in that house. Were they vetted before the child was kept in their care? What was the basis of the trust in the Aunts? What arrangements were made for the welfare of this child? and Whose Aunts were they anyway? I have no problem with the criminal issues involved. Those who are found guilty must be dealt with according to the law of the land. There is another (civil) issue of Negligence on the part of the mother. That needs to be sorted out too - so that NO mother again, neglects the welfare of the child and then decide NOT to take responsibility for her own negligence. Bailancho Saad unfortunately, appears to take a tunnel-visioned approach to this problem. Let the chips fall wherever they fall ...Sabina. No need to defend the indefensible - even if they are women. jc
[Goanet] Re. WE THE PEOPLE in Goa on the Scarlett Keeling Murder
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Dears, WE,THE PEOPLE on 16 March, 2008, featured the panelists on the debate include Power Environment Minister Alexio Sequeira, Chief Secretary J P Singh, Herald Editor Ashwin Tombat, Pop Star Remo Fernandes, Socialite Bina Ramani, Author Maria Couto, writer Sonia Faleiro, GBA Convenor Dr Oscar Rebello, Journalist Sudip Chakrabothi, former SP Alex Rasquinha and restaurant owner Manish Mukhija Can anyone share a sound byte that defined what each of them said? What was the consensus view? or, for that matter whcih POINT was hotly debated? The term used by Jason Monserrate from Santa Cruz Hotch potch was perhaps the most appropriate description for the rambling debate. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:07:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Monserrate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] WE THE PEOPLE in Goa on the Scarlett Keeling Murder To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], A lot many good points were raised. I still fail to see why Barkha is so eager to get a hot potch of lots of irrelevant points, instead of just guiding the debate in a single direction. At the end of the day, there was no assurance from the minister, we still do not have a clear picture of the nexus underbelly and the insider-outsider debate will leave many who are unaware of these growing undercurrents of resentment confused. To make things worse, more airtime was given to Alexio Sequiera than to someone like Oscar Rebello who had crisper, meaningful and more relevant points to make. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Best Fish curry picture-Joel.
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- While on the topic of fish curry, this picture to my eyes the most complete...brings the thaali to life, the color, the invitation, and the consolation of the pink digestive. Yes, one would prefer our 'oukdem' rice, the red of the earth and the earthy taste fresh from the kuunem! http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1453208042/
Re: [Goanet] Science and Churchy reasoning
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Dear Dr.Gilbert, Sorry for not having answered your question. So many questions have been formulated and addressed by Goanetters to the political leaders that our important questions on Religion had to wait. Some of them will never be answered. From: Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently in the USA media the following alarming statistics was presented: Nearly 40% of US babies in 2006 were born outside of marriage (to single mothers). In 1980, this statistic was 18%. Some of the 40% single mothers will marry the father of their child with whom they are in a live-in relation. That is the good news about the 2006 statistic. The bad news: Given that half of marriages end in divorce, the 60% of the babies born to married couples will likely grow up with only one of their biological parent. **It is difficult to assess the validity of these statistical data. Yet, taking them as they are, we can see how important is to emphasize the sacredness of the human family. Erosion of family values is the answer. I give below some facts cited by authors and sociologists. Regards. Fr.Ivo Empires have fallen. Bible speaks of corruption of humankind. America is getting weaker. The family unit is the basic building block of every thriving society. Within the family, young minds are first taught the importance of building character, controlling one's emotions, setting worthwhile goals, striving for excellence-or at least this should be the case, as it was generations ago. At the start of the Roman Empire, fathers took seriously their role in properly instructing, training and educating their sons, and mothers taught their daughters as well. The example of strong and active parents daily ingrained into children the importance of obedience, deference to civic authority and respect for the laws of the land. But as new generations came of age, the family weakened and fractured. Husbands and wives gave in to the pulls of human nature to engage in widespread adultery, inevitably leading to increasing rates of broken marriages. Divorce for virtually any reason became legal; wives only had to say to their husbands three times in succession, I divorce you! to bring it to pass. Also, parents came to spoil their children, who then grew up to become lazy adults who were irreverent, disobedient to authority and had little respect for the elderly or the old paths of social norms and values. Likewise, the family unit in America, Britain, Australia, Canada and other sister nations of the West is under constant assault. Broken marriages and fractured households are now the norm. Few fathers exercise a strong hand in teaching, guiding and correcting their young, often leaving mothers to fill both parental roles. Children are growing up pampered and catered to, never learning to accept and recover from setbacks-never being taught to rise up before the hoary head, and honor the face of the old man. They live in a fantasy world in which they must have cell phones; they need their privacy; they have rights. As with ancient Rome, the British and American peoples ignore God's Word. Modern parents believe they know better than their Creator. Today we have a generation of children who oppress and rule over their parents and show no respect for their elders. Collapsing Family Values: Truly, these days, the subject of erosion of the societal and family values is a recurring theme across the world. Social studies reveal that family and community values contribute greatly to happiness, and their depletion is a significant reason why people are not happier even when they are richer. Indians pride themselves of their strong family values, especially, vis-à-vis Western countries where collapse of the traditional family structure has created many social problems. With India's booming economy, and as urban Indians prioritise incomes and career opportunities over traditional family duties, the attitude towards family-values and family structures too is fast changing. Marriages are becoming more fragile and short-lived and the Indian family is in the throes of a discernible, if disturbing, transformation. Even the rural nuclear families are splitting. What Are Values: Dr. Radha Kamal Mukharjee defines values as: Socially approved desires and goals that are internalized through the process of conditioning, learning or socialization and that become subjective preferences. According to sociologists, faiths, ideals, principles and behaviour of a particular society are the values of that society. The society is controlled and directed
Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://www.2008goanconvention.com --- Dear Dr.U.G.Barad, I liked to read your sincere assessment of your Hindu religion. I thought I should briefly react to your beautiful comment on your own experience. Events which took place in Goa in these months kept me for some time without an answer... You were engrossed in them. You wrote: I might go to temple once in a year or two but heart to heart I always pray to god. *That is important, but we need also external helps, like temples and places to pray. Equally I don't believe in religion or caste but at the same time I am proud in the religion and caste where I am born though without my choice. *I do not see any opposition between prayer and the religion. We need also a school of prayer... But oppressive caste system cannot go hand in hand with a religion. Religion means our relationship with God and with humankind. Divisive forces of casteism cannot go within any religion. It would be an aberration. I feel others should also be proud in their own religion and/or caste in which they are born. But in doing so one should not heart (sic) the feelings and sentiments of others. That's what I strongly believe in. *I see a lot of religiosity in our people. Each one of us should be proud of the religion we follow, but also understand that 'caste' should lead me to treat everyone as my brother or sister in God, our common Father... ...Thus, Hinduism stands for Sanatan Dharma meaning Eternal Religion. *What is religion? What do you mean by eternal religion? What are its tenets? From where did they come? From our human nature? Who revealed them? to whom? From where did the Scriptures come? To whose authority do you appeal? God's or human being's? These are questions to be answered. If a great scientist like Einstein discovered or realized laws of physics, Hinduism would call him a great Rishi (Maharishi or Prophet of truth.). *Would you call Albert Einstein a prophet? a rishi? what is the meaning of prophet? Who is a rishi? Self realized persons like Jesus Christ are called Rishis (Prophet)... *Jesus of Nazareth is called Christ after his Resurrection. He is the Prophet, the Messiah, promised in the Old Testament, the Son of God. If you read the Gospels, you will find out who he is. Read his Beatitudes and Sayings, his Miracles, his Suffering, Death and Resurrection... and their teachings would be readily acceptable to those who properly understand the principles of 'Hinduism'. *There are Hindus who follow Jesus and his teachings. Some of them reject some teachings of Hinduism and follow the Gospel teachings. From the ancient times, many great Rishis achieved self-realization through such practices as meditation and austerities and they realized knowledge concerning Eternal Principles... **For Christianity, holiness comes from God, who lives in human beings: God's Grace, God's Love, God's Spirit. Not through the law, through meditation and austerities. ...most other religion is prophet centered depending upon the lives of some personal founder or founders. If at any time the historical evidences about the existence of these personages in ancient times become weak, the whole building of the religion tumbles down and is broken to pieces. *Who guarantees the validity of the tenets of Hindu religion? Why should there be conflicts among religions, when all religions should lead us to God, our common Father? No religion built upon a person can be taken up as a type by all the races of mankind. Vedantic religion does not require any such personal authority. Its sanction is the eternal nature of man, its ethics are based upon the eternal solidarity of man, already existing, already attained and not to be attained. ** Who guarantees this? What is 'eternal nature of man'? What is the basis of human ethics? Can Hinduism be taken up by all races of mankind? ...does Hindus worship one god or many? In every temple, if one stands by and listens, one will find the worshippers applying all the attributes of God, including omnipresence, to the images. *How can images have all the attributes of God? Or are different images symbols of the attributes of God, who cannot be expressed exhaustively by our human language? It is not polytheism, nor would the name henotheism explain the situation. **It would be polytheism if there are many gods (a pantheon or trimurti), or henotheism, if there is one God under different modalities. The rose called by any other name would smell as sweet. Names are not explanations. *What is in a name? Rose cannot be called by any name. It is called rose, precisely
