[Goanet-News] Margao photojournalists fake Moti Dongor sword picture? (Rajan Narayan, Goan Observer)

2008-07-19 Thread Goanet News
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STRAY THOUGHTS: By Rajan Narayan [The Goan Observer, July 19-25, 2008]
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Margao photojournalists fake
Moti Dongor sword picture?


And a few more stray thoughts and a few more observations for
yet another Sunday. For a Sunday following the week when the
Goa Bachao Abhiyan had strong reservations over accepting the
draft Regional Plan 2021 which has reportedly been finalized.

For a Sunday following the week when the Sangh Parivar-backed
citizens' welfare committee accused the GBA of becoming part
of the government. For a Sunday following the week when the
Times of India carried a report claiming yet another attempt
to topple the government by Vishwajit Rane. For a Sunday
following the week the editor of The Navhind Times, Arun
Sinha, sought the help of the Editors' Guild to take on
Penpricks.

GBA UPSET

AND a few more stray thoughts on the strong reservations of
the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA) on the draft Regional Plan,
which is ready and likely to be made public very soon.

When the draft Regional Plan 2021 was circulated among
members of the Task Force, which includes Dr Oscar Rebelo,
the convenor of the GBA, it was discovered that rules or
guidelines on acquisition of land by the Central and State
governments were included in the draft Regional Plan.

This is being strongly objected to by the GBA which has
rightly pointed out that the rules pertaining to acquisition
of land by the government are not relevant to the Regional
Plan 2021.

It may be recalled that the consultant to the Town and
Country Planning Department, Edgar Ribeiro, was asked to
frame the rules by Chief Minister Digamber Kamat following
the uproar over the amendment to the Town and Country
Planning Act, which exempted State and Central government
projects from the purview of the Regional Plan 2021.

LAND SHARKS

IT may be recalled that during the last session of the
legislative assembly, obviously under pressure from the
patrons of the land sharks, an amendment was made to the TCP
Act, exempting not only Central and State government projects
but even land acquired by the state for the benefit of
private parties from the purview of the Regional Plan 2021.

This was strongly objected to by the GBA, which pointed out
that the amendment would defeat the very purpose of
entrusting the preparation of the new draft Regional Plan to
the independent Task Force.

Though privately the Chief minister, who is the chairman of
the Task Force, kept assuring the GBA that rules would be
framed to prevent abuse of the amendment, the GBA did not
receive an official response to any of the three letters it
wrote protesting against the amendment.

Moreover, though draft rules for the acquisition of land by
the government were included in Appendix X of the interim
report of the Task Force, the Chief Minister has not
committed himself to even adopting, leave alone enforcing,
the rules.

In the meanwhile, pressure mounted on the convenor of the
GBA, Dr Oscar Rebelo, to present an ultimatum to the Chief
Minister on the amendment to the TCP Act.

It will be recalled that, last week, the GBA made it clear
that it would not settle for anything short of the abrogation
of the amendment to the TCP Act which exempted Central and
State government projects from the purview of the Regional
Plan 2021.

It is against this backdrop that Dr Oscar Rebelo had
reportedly refused to endorse the draft Regional Plan 2021.
Indeed, the Convenor has been under pressure to withdraw from
the GBA and was savaged by the saffron group within the GBA
for having endorsed the interim report. The reluctance of the
Chief Minister Digamber Kamat to make any commitment on the
demand for scrapping the amendment has strengthened the hands
of the fanatics and lunatics in the GBA and made it
embarassing for the moderates to continue to defend the Task
Force.

Indeed, there is every possibility that the GBA will be
hijacked by the lunatics and fanatics, or marginalized by
Sangh Parivar-promoted groups if it makes any compromise on
the demand that the government should scrap the amendments to
the TCP Act.

SANGH PARIVAR

AND a few stray observations on the continuing attempts by
the Sangh Parivar to marginalize the GBA.

It may be recalled that recently a group of individuals and
organizations sympathetic to, if not close to, Manohar
Parrikar attempted to start a rival GBA, deceptively called
GPA. Unfortunately for Rajan Parrikar and company, who had
promoted the GPA, it did not 

[Goanet] Check out this Konkani song

2008-07-19 Thread [Edu's World]
*Check out this Konkani song*


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-- 
Best of the Web: Your Eye on the World


Re: [Goanet] Call to Parents Students of Goa!

2008-07-19 Thread floriano

Miguel,

Rest assure about the PS.
Thanks for coming in on this 'Citizen's (Of Goa) Initiative.
I have a feeling that this will set the precedent for Goa's policy making
process.

b/rgds
floriano



- Original Message - 
From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:50 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Call to Parents  Students of Goa!



Dears,

Floriano Lobo has a new initiative. A meeting on the proposed
CONVERSION of Goa University to a Central University. The issue is
basically the same  land grab.

Forget a piece of land . they are taking the whole Goa University!




It will not get better with the Central University or an International
Educational Hub with Convention Centre, 7-star hotel and all !!! This
is just a re-packaging of the old thing ...new wine in old bottles
 the SPURIOUS vintage material for which you and I will pay
through our nose!

Mog asundi.

Miguel

PS
I am relying on Floriano's PS ...and he will have to take a call if he
jumps a surprise.

Note 1: This initiative is NOT, repeat NOT,  promoted by Goa Su-Raj Party
nor
the Goa Environment Action Group to which yours sincerely belongs to.
Note 2: This is further to the posts by Dr. U G Barad and Srinivas Kamat
reposted on the various I-net forums.




Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central

2008-07-19 Thread floriano
It is accepted that the Goa University has never had a vision, simply 
because,  to start with,  the University building design itself was 
conceptualised by a mere bailo Impression artist. Any one needs further 
confirmation on the above may kindly contact Goa's own forward looking 
architect going old... Bruno D'Souza, of Altinho, Panjim (late Arch. Lucio 
Miranda's brother-in-law) who was the award winner for the (Porvorim) Goa 
Legislative Assembly design. Surely he will shed more light on this.


And this, just a passing thought!

'Just because someone is bleeding profusely does it mean that this someone 
should be assigned to the MORGUE??


floriano



- Original Message - 
From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central



--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



A good Goan University faculty member can get natural
employment in GU
or in any other Indian University. Does being a State
University mean
that below-standard Goan faculty should get refuge here?

--
Dear Roland,
Please don't be so hard on Goa University. During its reign of 22 years, 
it has managed to produce more cooks onboard ships, more packers in 
Swindon, more houseboys in Kuwait and more illegal waiters in the US than 
any other university.


selma




Re: [Goanet] Call to Parents Students of Goa!

2008-07-19 Thread floriano
Valuable suggestions and comments given by  Samir, Miguel, Roland Francis 
and Elizabeth  (so far) are being stored to be given to the Moderator who 
will moderate the debate on 28 July, 2008 at Menezes Braganza ( Main)  Hall. 
More of such suggestion and comments are solicited from knowledgeable Goans 
around the world.


Rest assured these will be used in the best possible manner for the 
betterment of Goa's Education System at large, not only for the conduct of 
the debade on the proposed upgradation of the Goa University to Central 
University.


floriano



- Original Message - 
From: Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:26 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Call to Parents  Students of Goa!



I like Miguel's point. Have another central university in Goa, perhaps
an IIT or an IIM. Why convert our own Goa University into a central
one ?

The issue is one of control. Currently, the issue seems to be that of
funds. There are a number of ways funds can be raised. Perhaps, the
govt. should look at ways by which there can be more of self-generation
of funds by the university.

The education market in India is very huge. Every Tom, Dick and Harry is 
starting a college nowadays. Huge fees are being charged. Goa University
can definitely consider raising fees, increasing the number of seats, 
starting new programs to raise the necessary funds. Let some cash-cow
departments such as Computer Science support non cash-cow department such 
as social sciences.


What scares me the most about taking this univ. central is that toomorrow 
Arjun Singh or Mural Manohar Joshi will have this bright idea of 
privatizing education and this precious land will be doled out to Ambanis 
or some such people. The govt. has done similar things before and there is 
no guarantee that the univ. will remain a public one. After all, the 
centre also needs funds to run the univ., and funding crunch can come any 
time!


regards,
Samir








[Goanet] Illegal structure by MLA's 'kin' faces axe

2008-07-19 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
Illegal structure by MLA's 'kin' faces axe
19 Jul 2008, 0426 hrs IST,TNN

PANAJI: An illegal structure involving the reclamation of land and
reportedly belonging to Lepoldina Silveira, mother of St Andre MLA
Francis Silveira, is coming under the axe. 

Additional collector Swapnil Naik has ordered clearing of the 'illegal
reclamation of land, filling of mud and rubble and encroachment along
Zuari river' involving an area of around 1,500 sq m. 

Although the order was due to be executed on July 16, 2008, the police
and the PWD pleaded for more time claiming that the period was too short
to organise the necessary resources for the operation. 

Naik said the order will now be executed next week. The additional
collector had earlier issued notice to eight persons whose names figure
in the survey papers of the land. 

Four of them denied involvement in the encroachment while two others are
out of Goa. The rest, including Leopoldina Silveira, have accepted the
notices but not replied. 

Naik has ordered the Tiswadi deputy collector and mamlatdar to be
physically present at the site to effectively carry out the demolition
and to meet any untoward incident which may create law and order
problem. 

He also ordered a joint inspection of the site at least 48 hours before
the operation by various authorities, including the PWD to clearly
identify and mark the area for the operation. 

The order follows written directions to the additional collector by the
Goa Coastal Zone Management Authority. The GCZMA member secretary issued
the order on June 23, 2008, directing the additional collector to
implement it. 

Confirming they had issued the order, sources in the GCZMA said the
Authority did not know who the encroached upon land belonged to. 

In a related development, the GCZMA on Thursday decided to empower the
deputy and additional collectors to take suo moto action against CRZ
violations in Goa, which number around 4000. While 2500 CRZ violations
are in the coastal areas, about 1400 violations are in the riverine
belt, sources said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Illegal_structure_by_MLAs_kin_fac
es_axe/articleshow/3252297.cms

~(^^)~

Avelino


[Goanet] NYC wins KIFF League for 2007-2008

2008-07-19 Thread Francis Furtado
Congratulations to Navelim Youth Center for winning the KIFF League 2007-2008. 
Keep it up.



Cheers!!

Xavier Furtado
AVC - Kuwait






[Goanet] Comedy Queen To Dazzle at Goan Convention Grand Ball!

2008-07-19 Thread Francis Rodrigues


One of the most inspiring success stoies ever - Chrystal Gomes, Queen of
stand-up comedy - overcame crippling adversity to become a world star!

Watch Chrystal live in action, at the International Convention's Grand Ball on
26 July, as she floors the audience with her stunning Goan-flavoured comedy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_NEJfJQv6Y

Add a smashing Convention Queen pageant, amazing floor-show, prizes and
surprises, entertainers, stupendous cuisine, and the great Naked Flame band!

The GRAND BALL of the 2008 International Goan Convention, Sat. 26 July:

http://2008goanconvention.com/index.php

Tickets: available through the main Convention website above or online:

http://www.mybindi.com/goan/

Subscribe free to the Convention newsletter, and get free Konkani music:

http://2008goanconvention.com/inviter.php

Tel.: 1-416-510-1347.



_



[Goanet] The Nazareths of Moira

2008-07-19 Thread Tony de Sa
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RESPONSE: Larry Nazareth's father is the Q.C. The grandfather Nazareth
mentioned in Theresa Albuquerque's book is the one who emirated during

Thanks for the clarification
Cheers,
Tony

-- 
Tony de Sa
Ph: +91 832 2470148
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
M: +91 9975 162 897
---
'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing'
Edmund Burke.



[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : Prayer powers fightback

2008-07-19 Thread RUBYGOES
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Prayer powers fightback


Around 1,000 parents of students from Sacred Heart Boys School, Santa
Cruz (west), have found an innovative way to deal with the Maharashtra
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[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : Mumbai gets set for Zubin Mehta magic

2008-07-19 Thread RUBYGOES
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Zubin Mehta, the internationally acclaimed Los Angeles-based music
conductor of Indian origin, will enthral his fans at a series of charity
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[Goanet] Goa University Going Central

2008-07-19 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears,

Roland Francis can sit abroad and tell us plausible stories of what
happens at Goa University at Taleigao Plateau [in village Panchayats
of Taleigao, Santa Cruz and Bambolim] or any other University in Goa.
He is knowledgeable. I make no such claim for myself.

 I just happened to have worked for the Goa University [1991-93] on
deputation as a gardener [Sujay Gupta has remembered me as a Garden
Inspector on this list and in print], known some of the Readers of
today when they were aged 20 something years and recruited as
lecturers and do keep in touch with the Goa University ... including
doing a bit of garden sponsorred by Sesa Goa Ltd. till last March. At
best, it is difficult working at the Goa University; at worst one
prefers to leave it and go away [like Ms. Belinda Fernandes, the
sister of the more famous Remo, did about a decade ago] or be
uncermoniously shown the door as one Goan who officiated as the VC
was! Mr. L.M.T. Fernandes' fate as the Chairman of Goa Board of
Education was yesterday once more! [Both these men happened to be
Catholics, but that is besides the point  we have a secular
Government in place.].

I do hope Selma has statistics to back her far-reaching statement. If
true, the Goa University must be congratulated for producing
employable graduates who are ingrained with the intrinsic dignity of
labour , that we preach from the pulpits and decry on any net forum.
Whited sepulchres. Did I hear that term in a similar context before?

The Goa University started with senior teachers and doctoral students
from its affiliate colleges/CPIR [formerly of Bombay University]
filling the top posts .. Dr. S.G. Torne, Dr. Tonsekar, Dr. Olivinho
Gomes, Dr. Uday Sangodkar, Dr. Urmila Barros, Ms. Savita Kerkar et al
... have been some of them. Dr. Selma Viera Velho taught at Goa
University, but as a Fundacao Gulbenkian scholar, not GU employee.
Would someone like to tell me the names of any Goan who has made it to
the teaching faculty of Goa University in the last decade?

As I have said before, I am not very knowledgeable. Dr. Anand
Vishwanath Prabhudesai was the name of my senior at the University of
Agricultural Sciences, Bangalore, whom we knew as Uday. After his
Ph.D. in Microbiology with distinctions he was given post-doctoral
fellowship [not unlike Dr. Nandkumar Kamat at Goa University]. After
six years of fellowship-without-employment, he left the University and
got employed in USA. Perhaps, Universities in USA employ sub-standard
Goan faculty. Dr. Carmo de Cruz could possibly enlighten us on this.
Knowing Uday personally for six years, I would disagree.

 A good Goan University faculty member can get natural
 employment in GU or in any other Indian University.

If that is the truth, I am Goanet's Fairy Godmother. Now Goans wishing
to be in the Goa University's faculty are in need of one. Mummy
Victoria has lost her magic wand. Any volunteers?

Mog asundi.

Miguel


Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:55:32 +0530
From: floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is accepted that the Goa University has never had a vision

And this, just a passing thought!
'Just because someone is bleeding profusely does it mean that this someone
should be assigned to the MORGUE??

floriano

- Original Message -
From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central

 Dear Roland,
 Please don't be so hard on Goa University. During its reign of 22 years,
 it has managed to produce more cooks onboard ships, more packers in
 Swindon, more houseboys in Kuwait and more illegal waiters in the US than
 any other university.

 selma

 --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A good Goan University faculty member can get natural
 employment in GU or in any other Indian University. Does being a State
 University mean that below-standard Goan faculty should get refuge here?
 --

Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:43:08 +0530
From: floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Call to Parents  Students of Goa!
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Miguel,
Thanks for coming in on this 'Citizen's (Of Goa) Initiative.
I have a feeling that this will set the precedent for Goa's policy
making process.
floriano

From: Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Floriano Lobo has a new initiative. A meeting on the proposed
 CONVERSION of Goa University to a Central University. The issue is
 basically the same  land grab.
 Forget a piece of land . they are taking the whole Goa University!
 It will not get better with the Central University or an International
 Educational Hub with Convention Centre, 7-star hotel and all !!! This
 is just a re-packaging of the old thing ...new wine in old bottles
  the SPURIOUS vintage material for which you and I will pay
 through our nose!
 Miguel

--


End of Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 895

[Goanet] Book In Black and White - editor FN

2008-07-19 Thread Carvalho

I must admit that I started reading this book with all the enthusiasm of a bear 
foraging for food in mid-winter. The back-room shenanigans of Goa's veteran 
journalists is not fare for laymen, I thought. But I soon found myself 
deliciously turning the pages of this book and carrying it with me to the 
kitchen, the restroom and finally to bed. It is the telling tale of our times, 
told by our faceless chronicles. Who gets to tell our stories, which stories 
get told and who ultimately decides how a story is slanted, is much fodder for 
thought. There are no heroes or villains in this story. Infact it is written so 
lucidly, it is left upto to the read to determine who the heros and villains 
are. For instance, I thoroughly enjoyed Rajan Narayan's diktat's He's just the 
sort of maniacal dictator I've always had a fondness for. :-)

This is a book about Goa's history and its current affairs. Anyone remotely 
interested in Goa, pick up this book. Indeed pick up a copy for a friend in 
diaspora. Simply unputdownable!

edited by Frederick Noronha.

Selma



  


[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Yesterday's Goa -- communidades, landlords, Desais and inheritance

2008-07-19 Thread Goanet Reader
YESTERDAY'S GOA: COMMUNIDADES, LANDLORDS, DESAIS AND INHERITANCE

Ethnography of Goa, Daman and Diu
is a translated version of
Ethnographia da India Portuguesa.
Its translator, Maria Aurora Couto,
writes: (It) is a classic book in
Portugueses. Its translation was
thus undertaken by me with great
trepidation -- at the insistence of
Armando Felix Braganca Pereira, the
author's son Below is an extract
from Chapter Five of the book titled
'Social Life'. It is reproduced here
with the permission of the translator
and publishers Penguin-Viking. The
section below looks at the village
communidade, bhatkars and mundkars,
Desai landholdings and inheritence and
property rights, succession and
evidence in Goa of the yesteryears. --FN

Property

The Village Communidade: The Portuguese gave the name of
communidade to the Goan ganvponn/ganvkari. The British
translated communidade de aldeia into 'village community'.

Torof means a collection/an association of several village
communidades in a single administrative unit or a cluster of
several villages in a single communidade.

At present, the village communidade (as defined by the
Portuguese Code of Communidades promulgated on 1 December
1904), is basically a simple agricultural association; it was
a 'republic', in the felicitous expression of Sir Charles
Metcalfe. The village communidades, autonomous in their
internal management, were under the protection of the Indian
kings to whom they paid tribute, which the Portuguese called
foro. The tribute was misunderstood as the emphyteutic canon
to such an extent that the decree of 15 September 1880
considered the state the direct owner of the communidade
lands in accordance with the feudal conception of eminent
domain and vassalage.

In the Foral dos usos e costumes (Charter of Usages and
Customs) promulgated by the Goa Revenue Commissioner, Afonso
Mexia, dating back to 1526, the Portuguese identified the
village communidades with Portuguese municipalities. This
resembled the Foral in Portugal, a charter which incorporated
the rights, privileges and precedents. The king promised its
enforcement to the people.

Hence both cultivable lands which they leased out as well as
wastelands which, according to the Portuguese Civil Code, are
held in common, that is, they can only be allowed to be used
by individuals designated within certain administrative
areas, continued to remain in the possession of the
communidades.

The Code of Communes stipulates in Article 291:

The following lands cannot be leased out:

* Lands of common use.
* Those indispensable to and already earmarked for pasture.
* Those allotted for free passage to neighbours.

Therefore, the village communidades defray expenses of a
municipal character such as roads, health, education, rural
police, and so on.

The study of the various forms of landed property described
in the previous pages confirms the existence of a
co-ownership among the ancient tribes, which seemed to
impress Henry Maine greatly. But it is not correct to say
that these co-owners constituted an unchangeable social
group.

Generally, apart from the tribal sector, we have not found
property held in common except in a very special case where
marriage among blood relatives existed in a group but it was
mixed with the larger community. Often, too, the special
rights of the owner are shared among the different
corporations, groups of close relatives, unilateral among the
Ewe for instance or bilateral as seems the case among the
Ifugao.

This means that communism did not exist among the territorial
groups but only among a strictly limited group of genuine
relatives. Co-ownership in others, although frequent, was not
universal. We also find individual rights to property, as in
the case of Rewa or in the Torres straits, more often in the
pastures of the Kirghiz, where communism and individualism
co-exist. It is up to those who believe in the universality
of common property, as prior to individual land property, to
prove their statements ...

The studies on India, carried out by Baden-Powell, permit us
to demonstrate that quite probably, in this region, the law
pertaining to landed property was quite the opposite of what
the sociologists wrongly assume.

Baden-Powell draws attention to the fact that the area
allotted as common property to the villages was not half as
extensive as that covered by individual property. The latter
was particularly prevalent among the more primitive peoples
...

Besides this individual property belonging to indigenous
farmers, there was also in certain localities the principle
of multiple possession by the village; it often happened that
a group of non-agricultural conquerors would take possession
of the land and lower the owners to the rank of mere tenants.

In such cases, the land owners would form a fraternity to
which would belong the village area and the land contained in
it, the entire portion forming a functioning land unit.

Parts are assigned to individuals 

Re: [Goanet] Goans in Kenya

2008-07-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/7/18 Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Goans in Kenya:
 An Endangered Species
 The topic of Goan emigration has held immense fascination for me. Not
 long ago, in distant Toronto, I encountered a sizable conglomeration
 of Goan settlers and was told the majority hailed from Kenya--that is
 from what had become a home away from home for the expatriates for the
 duration of a century!

COMMENT: In order to be 'Politically correct' as I have been
admonised; further to the post the Author.

Besides research into the local history of Bombay, the author, Dr
Teresa Albuquerque, has presented profiles of two villages in Goa:
Anjuna and Santa Cruz; and has written Goa: The Rachol Legacy. Now
the Goans of Kenya is due for release and should interest Goans
anywhere.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.
P.S. This book is now a few years old and quite difficult to obtain in
Goa bookshops, me thinks


Re: [Goanet] Book In Black and White - editor FN

2008-07-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/7/19 Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I must admit that I started reading this book with all the enthusiasm of a 
 bear foraging for food in mid-winter.
 Selma

COMMENT: What enthusiasm? Bears other than the White bear of North
America, hibernate!



-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


Re: [Goanet] Book In Black and White - editor FN

2008-07-19 Thread Carvalho
er that is what I meant Gabe.


--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Book In Black and White - editor FN
 To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 4:22 AM
 2008/7/19 Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I must admit that I started reading this book with all
 the enthusiasm of a bear foraging for food in mid-winter.
  Selma
 
 COMMENT: What enthusiasm? Bears other than the White bear
 of North
 America, hibernate!
 
 
 
 -- 
 DEV BOREM KORUM.
 
 Gabe Menezes.
 London.


  


Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central

2008-07-19 Thread Carvalho
--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I do hope Selma has statistics to back her far-reaching
 statement. If
 true, the Goa University must be congratulated for
 producing
 employable graduates who are ingrained with the intrinsic
 dignity of
 labour , that we preach from the pulpits and decry on
 any net forum.
-
Dear Miguel,
Without getting all emotional and huffy about this, perhaps a good idea when 
opposing a project is to put together a coherent argument as to why it should 
be opposed and then put together solutions for an alternative.

As of now, it seems to those living outside of Goa, that the same arguments can 
be tape-recorded and used for every Citizen's meeting. For ease of use, you 
might want to make a jingle out them.

Scams and deals
It's all about bhaile
Wanting to steal

I have a special corner in my heart for education. I do believe in today's 
society it defines individuals. I feel an uneasy churning in my stomach when I 
hear of plans to make Goa a university town of distinction, being opposed by 
cantankerous activists.

I shall try to keep this as my last post on this subject. 
selma


  


[Goanet] OF COLD FEET AND FROST BYTES: THE STORY OF THE GT INTERVIEW THAT WASN'T PUBLISHED

2008-07-19 Thread Pen Pricks
OF COLD FEET AND FROST BYTES: THE STORY OF THE GT INTERVIEW THAT WASN'T
PUBLISHED

Hi guys... the silence of the Goan media on Nazi-gate really does not shock
us. These guys have always behaved like ostriches, who are only keen on
hiding both, their eggs and their balls (for those who have an issue with
the word 'balls', you could interpret it as a set of dummy eggs). So we were
pleasantly surprised when GT features contacted us for an email interview.
This was way back on July 4, when GT correspondent Arti Das wrote to us...
Hi Mr Penpricks (I got to know your gender through Orkut! J),
First of all, let me introduce myself to you. I am Arti Das, a reporter with
Gomantak Times.
I'm writing regarding the latest sting that is making waves -- wherein you
took the media fraternity for a merry ride by creating aheadline-grabbing
fake news item about the arrest of an 88-year-old Johann Bach an absconding
high-ranking Waffen SS (Schutzstaffel)colonel in the Germany's former Nazi
party in the Khanapur jungle of Karnataka.

for more read
http://penpricks.blogspot.com/2008/07/of-cold-feet-and-frost-bytes-story-of.html


[Goanet] Inquisition and Francis Xavier

2008-07-19 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Recently, I was involved in a dialog on a net-chat (not private conversation) 
with an esteemed Goan historian.  Below is the conversation, based on a 
reference the historian kindly provided me on the exact quote and the context 
of St. Francis Xavier request for the Inquisition to be introduced to Goa.  
This dialog should be  educational to Goanet members and others on other Goan 
websites. So please feel free to forward this post..  I have withheld the name 
of this renowned historian.  This dialog is about Francis Xavier and not 
opinions of current individual persons.
Regards, GL.
 
  
Dear ,
I am serious in the research of the Inquisition in Goa.  I do the reading to be 
best of the resources available to me. And perhaps that applies to all of us.  
I thank you for your pointers and your references. Perhaps to your annoyance, I 
do question what I read.
 
I am glad and thank you for posting the verbatim transcript of what Xavier 
requested and had in mind. Thanks for refreshing for us the reasoning that 
Xavier provided for his rational to introduce the inquisition to Goa. Each of  
of us can review Xavier's recommendations with the analysis provided.
 
To quote you: The relevant letter is on p. 144: The second need that India 
has, if those who live in it are to be good Christians, is that Your Highness 
should establish here the holy Inquisition, because there are many who, without 
any fear of God or human respect, live according to the Mosaic law and the 
tenets of the Moors.
 
Does not the above refer to:
 
The living standards and moral behavior of  Europeans (rather than converted or 
non-converted Goans, who had no concepts of the Mosaic law and the tenets of 
the Moors)?
Is not the above a reference to multiple wives, mistresses, harems, concubines, 
prostitution, etc and the resultant illegitimate children ?
Perhaps you can explain to us the practical meaning of  Mosaic law and the 
tenets of the Moors.
Perhaps you can explain to us the practical meaning of  without any fear of 
God and human respect.
The above request by Xavier was not aimed to force the conversion of Hindus, as 
is being alleged.
The above request by Xavier was not to target the Jews or individuals of other 
faiths, as is being alleged.  
It is specifically requested to assure those Christians who live in it are 
to be good Christians.  
 
Hence the Inquisition what Xavier had in mind to accomplish, is not the 
Inquisition that was subsequently used / abused.  Are we doing to Xavier's 
writings in the 16th century to what a few have currently done to yours?
 
In some of the analysis that I see, these historical individuals are in a 'no 
win situation'. This seem to be the case of the European Jesuits 
supporting Sudra priests v/s Brahmin-Chardo priests.  Thanks for your analysis. 
One can attribute any motivation to the Jesuits depending on 'whose ox is being 
gored' or the fictional novel one wants to write.
 
As we sit in judgment of these historical actions, perhaps we should also ask 
ourselves: What would have been our solutions, even with the benefit 
of hindsight?  This is a better option instead of second guessing the subaltern 
motifs of those individuals.  Perhaps the current writers / reviewers should be 
honest to inform us if there are any personal overt or covert subaltern motives 
/ situations that may be driving their own perspectives.
 
My reference below to the numbers killed at the Inquisition was a quote used by 
a Portuguese Historian Joao Felix Pereira.  It is aimed to point out that 
perhaps the information from some authoritative sources, may need to be 
cross-checked for accuracy.   
 
Regards, Gilbert Lawrence,





[Goanet] Land Conversions

2008-07-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Land conversions

When the use of land changed from one purpose to another it is called land 
conversion
e.g from agricultural land to non-agricultural land or from cultivable  to 
non-cultivable area etc

Land conversion does not necessarily mean  converting  from actual 
Agriculture/forest/hills to development or construction  zone,
e.g. A small plot of say 300 sqmtrs surrounded by 4  existing houses, the said 
plot may still need conversion if the area on  the form I  XIV shown under 
Garden (orchard) or agricultural land.

In most cases, it seems mistakes were made from the beginning at the time of 
first few general land survey/ records and such mistakes continue replecting in 
form I  XIV.

When tenants buy property from their landlords, it is most likely an ‘orchard’ 
land  or agricultural land

However, if one buys a plot from a developer,  in most cases, there is no need 
of conversion as the developers already developed  the  vast area with roads, 
licenses, conversion senads etc.


How to apply for Conversion senad ?

Or

How it works?

You have to submit four files (now five?) in prescribe application form 
together with certified copies of plans, I  XIV, sales deed etc. to Dy. 
Collector office.

The Dy. Office will then (takes it own sweet time) forward  each file to TCP 
taluka, Mamlatdar, Forest Dept (and now to Revenue Dept/Minister?).  Although 
you submit your application/docs at one place, it is your duty to make several 
visit to other 4 dept to chase your matter.  First a site inspector from each 
dept will fix a date for site inspection. On the day, you have to arrange your 
own transport to take the inspector to and fro the site. If two dept, are close 
to each other, they never come in the same taxi as each dept inspector like to 
inspect separately.  They say the reports will be forwarded to Dy. Collector 
within a week (if you bribe they would do it same day or next day, and if you 
don’t it could take up to six months as in my case). 
After about 10 days, you will have to visit Dy.coll to see if all reports are 
come , but the clerk in charge will not check the file saying go and ask the 
other depts. first if they sent the report. After several visits, if your all 3 
 reports are finally come, then the Dy. Coll office send a letter to the Survey 
Dept for drawing necessary plans.  At Survey Dept you pay the fees around 800 
for about 400sqmtrs. Then take an appoint for site inspection, on the day, you 
provide transport – he too will say the report will be sent in 7 days.  And 
after 10 days, if you go to dy.coll to check if final report has come – the 
clert will still not check the file saying go and find out from the survey dept 
first if they sent it here.
Once the final report/plan received, Dy. Coll office will then make you to pay 
challan senad fees @Rs.20 per sqmtr for area upto 500 sqmt area

Once the payment is done, it could still take about a week for your Senad 
(although this can be done on the same day of payment).

The whole process should take  about  2-3 weeks  if bribed or else up to 2years 
or never.

Fyi, I  have forwarded an application (on behalf of someone) for conversion of 
an area just over 400sqmtr to Dy.Collector April 2007 and the  case still has 
not been resolved yet despite several visits to various depts. 
Why it taking so long time?
The answer is simple. 
 I  HAVE NOT PAID A SINGLE PENNY TO ANYONE

(Some inspector may even put site inspection reports in the bin if you don't 
pay them as it happend in my case)


Most land conversions (within residential areas)  are like money making scams.
Where citizens are put to great hardship thus losing their time, money and 
energy.

All areas within residential areas/zones should be automatically converted and 
all form  I  XIV records should be updated/rectified  accordingly. Perhaps 
during next general land survey. 

Most people get the above done and the other licenses illegally by paying bribe 
to the local  Panchayat.  And it’s lot lot cheaper and quicker too. Plus you 
don’t have to worry about TCP, PWD  Health Dept plans approval, site 
inspections, senads, etc.
Once the house is constructed (with the blessing of local Panchayat) you get 
your New House No and that’s make you feel your house is legal.


OK, would like to know the status of your land?
Just visit any MAHITHI Ghars (Informations Kiosks) situated in cities. There 
are two at Panjim, one at KTC bus stand and the other outside Collector’s 
office garden.
Just give your survery No e.g. 45/3, the taluka e.g. Pernen and the Village say 
Majorda.
Pay Rs.10, and you will get your form I  XIV instantly.  If you are not sure 
about your survey no, don’t worry, try giving as many nos. you remember and 
they will search for you but each search will cost you Rs.5.  


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[Goanet] Talking Photo: Where in Goa you see this?

2008-07-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photo: Where in Goa you see this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk1/2667865589/sizes/l/

Some clues:
- The person in the pic is a woman
- No entry to general Public 
- One time, on Aug.10, every year, everyone was allowed. Now stopped.
- I think Charles Sobraj resided here for sometime.


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Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central

2008-07-19 Thread floriano

Dear Selma,

Forgive me for naming you 'Elizabeth' instead of 'Selma' in my earlier post. 
Wonder if Elizabeth is one of your good names.


Now coming back to 'Education' in Goa,  it is heartening to warm up to hear 
someone saying something like having a soft corner in my heart for 
education,  but it is a freeze when in the same breath one hears something 
like 'I shall try to keep this as my last post on this subject'.


Except for the TOI report, this upgradation of Goa University as Central 
University is as good as a malicious rumour. Otherwise it would be a wild 
buzz. So far there is none that I know of. And the best thing that has 
happened, in these early stages, is that some authentic progamme has been 
organized where the pros and cons of this would be subject matter will be 
debated. It couldn't be a one sided debate. And who will debate this issue 
is the person who is knowledgeable in the matters of finer Education.


I have been given to understand that there are people who want to talk about 
these things (pros and cons)  and when that is done, Goa will be much wiser 
to adopt a system which is good for it people.


I fear the thought of going deep down into uncharted waters because there is 
no retreat from there but only sure death.


Can we, the uninitiated, have the pleasure of your arguments, pro or against 
such a proposed move, supposing it is true?


I, personally, shall be most obligated.

Tks  B/rgds
floriano

- Original Message - 
From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central



--- On Sat, 7/19/08, Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I do hope Selma has statistics to back her far-reaching
statement. 

-

Dear Miguel,
Without getting all emotional and huffy about this, perhaps a good idea 
when opposing a project is to put together a coherent argument as to why 
it should be opposed and then put together solutions for an alternative.


I have a special corner in my heart for education. I do believe in today's 
society it defines individuals. I feel an uneasy churning in my stomach 
when I hear of plans to make Goa a university town of distinction, being 
opposed by cantankerous activists.


I shall try to keep this as my last post on this subject.
selma




[Goanet] Goa University going Central

2008-07-19 Thread Samir Kelekar
Selma writes:
As of now, it seems to those living outside of Goa, that the same arguments 
can be tape-recorded and used for every Citizen's meeting. For ease of use, 
you might want to make a jingle out them.

Scams and deals
It's all about bhaile
Wanting to steal

You are absolutely right. The same arguments can be used to oppose a project, 
because the govt. has the same reasons for every project. In this case,
the treasury has been emptied by loot ( just the food bills over the
last 10 years could be used to fund a university) and hence there are no funds. 
 Further,  who would not want such a prime land ?

Actually, quite interestingly, in the valuation of the Goa University
which I read in the TOI article, the land value was put at Rs. 3000 crores,
the value of buildings at Rs. 700 crores and the value of equipment
at Rs. 300 crores, totalling to Rs. 4000 crores. What about the value
of the faculty which constitutes the brain behind the university?
It was not counted at all !

When any software company is valued, the number of staff is an important
part in valuing it.

regards,
Samir





  


[Goanet] Vagator Beach

2008-07-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Vagator Beach
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=GdrYE_hlDj0

Chapora Fort, rocky beach etc seen

BIKNNAKAR dancing also seen

If u don't know who is/are biknnakar/s then watch it.
It says about them too.

The term 'Biknnakars' is not something new in Goa.
It is at least 20 years old.
I guess the name given to them by the then Goan taxi drivers and tour bus 
drivers

here is a group of biknnakrs
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk13/2348840894/sizes/l/



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[Goanet] Goa executive magistrates to be available on holidays

2008-07-19 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
Goa executive magistrates to be available on holidays

GOA GOVERNMENT with a view to give solace to public have made executive
magistrate available on holidays too. Following the grievances of the
general public with regards to the difficulties faced by them in
executing affidavits before the executive magistrate for the purpose of
obtaining income certificates, government took this decision.

In these days public flock to magistrate offices to get income
certificates in connection with obtaining ration quota for above poverty
line (APL) category of ration card holders. The District Administration
has also organised a special drive for such APL ration card holders
whose income is not more than one lakh rupees. 

The special drive is fixed on 19th and 20th July 2008 in the office of
Mamlatdar, Mormugao as well as office or court room of deputy collector
or SDO Mormugao. 

The district collector has drafted nine executive magistrates for the
above purpose on the above dates who shall be available to the public
for the execution of their affidavits on the above dates and place from
10am to 5:30pm on both the general public of Mormugao taluka.

General public are requested to bring along with them their photo
identity documents such as electoral photo identity card (EPIC) etc in
addition to their identity being verified by such person known to the
magistrate. Public is also further requested to avail of this
opportunity of the special drive.

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=137839

~(^^)~

Avelino



[Goanet] Mutton Dhampaak - A Recipe from Edu's Kitchen in Sharjah

2008-07-19 Thread [Edu's World]
   Category: Meat  Style: Indian Servings: 4-5 persons
*Description:*
Dhampaak is a popular dish of Damanese, it is a delicious lamb dish and
cooked on special occasions.

*Ingredients:*
1/2 kg Mutton with bone (medium size cubes)
2 chopped onions
1 chopped tomato
4 tbsp Pomace Olive oil
2 potatoes medium size boiled, peeled  cut into quarters
Juice of one lemon
Salt to taste
2 cups warm water
2 tbsp fresh chopped coriander leave for garnishing

Grind with water  make paste of the following:
3 red Kashmiri chillies
2 fresh green chillies
1 tbsp Aniseed
6 peppercorns
2 medium size sticks of cinnamon
3 cloves
2-4 cloves of garlic
1/2 ginger
1/4 tsp turmeric powder
Few sprigs of fresh coriander leaves

*Directions:*
Heat the Olive oil over medium heat and saute the chopped onions, tomatoes
until golden brown
Add the masala paste, mutton, salt and fry for about 5 minutes
Add 1-2 cups of warm water and cook until the meat is tender
Add the boiled potatoes, lemon juice and simmer on slow heat for 2-3minutes
Garnish with chopped coriander leaves before serving.


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Re: [Goanet] Goa University going Central

2008-07-19 Thread J. Colaco jc
Samir Kelekar wrote:  In this case, the treasury has been emptied by
loot ( just the food bills over the last 10 years could be used to
fund a university) and hence there are no funds.  Further,  who would
not want such a prime land ?

==

jc's response:

That is the reason why the Portuguese (and their boot-lickers) MUST be
kicked out of Goa.  They are nothing but looters who have emptied the
Goa treasury - possibly just on food bills. I could understand if it
was related to 'cerveja'.

Oh Oh ...it was NOT the Portuguese who looted Goa (and remained poor)
Ooops,  Mishtek zali. I was believing only the Freedom Fighters,
many of whom believe that just saying/writing Jai Hind makes them
FFs

If Goa was a 'software company' - what would be the fate of the
chaps who handed over the running of the company to 'looters' as
Samir characterises them?

No ..but now the chaps want Goans to fall for a long discarded
Ponzi scheme called Vishal Gomantak.

As the velim based Kon-Few-shius once said: You fool me once .You
fool me twice etc

jc
back to my work now..

PS: TGF web-site will have an important front page update this Sunday (EST)
Will keep GoaNetters posted


Re: [Goanet] Goa University going Central

2008-07-19 Thread Samir Kelekar
Grow up Josebab. The age for adulthood is 18. Goa is 47. You can't
keep blaming your parents when you are 47. There is an expiry date
upto which you can blame parents, unless of course you dont want
to take responsibility for your own life!

Why is Vishal Gomantak a Ponzi scheme or is it a mapusa scheme ? :-)
And when was it discarded ?

regards,
Samir



--- On Sat, 7/19/08, J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: J. Colaco  jc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Goa University going Central
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! 
 goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 6:02 PM
 Samir Kelekar wrote:  In this case, the treasury has been
 emptied by
 loot ( just the food bills over the last 10 years could be
 used to
 fund a university) and hence there are no funds.  Further, 
 who would
 not want such a prime land ?
 
 ==
 
 jc's response:
 
 That is the reason why the Portuguese (and their
 boot-lickers) MUST be
 kicked out of Goa.  They are nothing but looters who have
 emptied the
 Goa treasury - possibly just on food bills. I could
 understand if it
 was related to 'cerveja'.
 
 Oh Oh ...it was NOT the Portuguese who looted Goa (and
 remained poor)
 Ooops,  Mishtek zali. I was believing only the Freedom
 Fighters,
 many of whom believe that just saying/writing Jai
 Hind makes them
 FFs
 
 If Goa was a 'software company' - what would be the
 fate of the
 chaps who handed over the running of the company to
 'looters' as
 Samir characterises them?
 
 No ..but now the chaps want Goans to fall
 for a long discarded
 Ponzi scheme called Vishal Gomantak.
 
 As the velim based Kon-Few-shius once said: You fool me
 once .You
 fool me twice etc
 
 jc
 back to my work now..
 
 PS: TGF web-site will have an important front page update
 this Sunday (EST)
 Will keep GoaNetters posted


  


Re: [Goanet] Goa University going Central

2008-07-19 Thread J. Colaco jc
2008/7/19 Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Grow up Josebab. The age for adulthood is 18. Goa is 47. You can't
keep blaming your parents when you are 47. There is an expiry date
upto which you can blame parents, unless of course you dont want to
take responsibility for your own life!

Why is Vishal Gomantak a Ponzi scheme or is it a mapusa scheme ? :-)
And when was it discarded ?

==

Samirbab,

Please read my posts carefully - My last post was based specifically
on the software company analogy of yours.

You have made my point exactly - In a real software company, those
negligent chaps who handed over the running of the company (Goa in
this case) would have been booted off (without boot-licking) as soon
as Goa turned 18 .. at least.

Read more about the origins, canvassing and discarding of the Konkan
State  Vishal Gomantak ponzi schemes. You will find enough
information even in the mine-owner-owned noojpapers within the time
span of  2-3 years post the Opinion Poll disaster. (Disaster for the
ponzi-wallas like the Kenis, Chougulos and many of the ones who are
complaining about the bhaille in Goa today.)

It is true (hopefully) that one achieves adulthood at about 18. What
this sorry episode shows us is that often-times children continue to
pay the price for the folly of their Ponzi-pops. The present
overwhelmed by the bhallie chaos is what those who supported the MGP
have brought upon to their children - who are now complaining and even
lamenting about the Goa they knew !

This is additional to the original Ponzi-wallas who handed over the
running of the company to a team without any program plans. These
original Ponzi-wallas are now back with this nonsense called Konkan
State/Vishal Gomantak.

Yeah right!

Goa being part of Greater Mangalore, maybe  .but not this nonsense.

cheers all the same

Now ...I have to do some more Book-Licking (:-)

jc
ps: my knowledge on this topic is now temporarily exhausted. No Mas
replies for now from me.


Re: [Goanet] Goa University Going Central

2008-07-19 Thread Roland Francis
Hi Miguel,

I am sorry you got carried away emotionally to the point where you
claimed I was knowledgeable and you were not. I neither made nor
implied any such claim. Living abroad, I have never presumed to tell
Goans in Goa how to do things. However, that does not prevent me from
making an argument and stating my views on a subject that is
introduced on Goanet.

I am glad that Floriano has immediately started a Citizen's Initiative
to discuss the matter. That is the right move. Before one starts
agitating, one must know both sides of the argument of why and what
one is agitating for.

While issues like land grabbing, bribery and corruption and despoiling
of the environment are obvious issues that need to be vigorously
tackled, the matter of converting Goa University to a Central one, has
implications that need to be set out and argued. Here could be a great
opportunity for Goa. Like Karat of the Communist party did on the
issue of the US pact on the nuclear deal for India, one cannot just
throw it away.

One important question arises before discussion of the subject becomes
meaningful. Why is the Centre considering conversion of GU? Has it
been approached to do so because of the GU's chronic lack of funds or
for any other such reason?

There are 2 subsets of the issue of conversion of the University. The
first is whether conversion would be good for Goa. The other is how it
would be best done - i.e. full-fledged takeover of the current
premises, facilities, faculty and staff, or doing all this while
establishing a separate campus for specializing in local requirement
and issues like you have suggested.

I strongly favor the conversion to a Central University. In addition
to the reasons I have mentioned in my previous post, here is one that
I think is very important:

Goa due to it's size, is ignored at the national level. Nay, it is
even exploited as there is no-one to protest it. The Goa Govt should
have been doing this, but they themselves are a bunch of spineless,
incompetents who run to Delhi ever so often, to get their political
blessings.

Having a Central University will slowly put Goa on the national map.
Students passing out from the new Goa University (or whatever it may
be called, like Lal Bahadur Shastri University) will have ready access
to Central Cadre services, a presence it now sorely lacks. With a
sizable body of Goa Cadre top administrative officers, top cops and
top diplomats, Goa will get the respect it deserves. And as you so
well know Goans flourish academically. They have always done so, given
the right environment. Unfortunately, that environment has always been
out of Goa. No protest will ever be worth foregoing this window of
opportunity.

Regards and mog assundi,

Roland.

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Miguel Braganza
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dears,

 Roland Francis can sit abroad and tell us plausible stories of what
 happens at Goa University at Taleigao Plateau [in village Panchayats
 of Taleigao, Santa Cruz and Bambolim] or any other University in Goa.
 He is knowledgeable. I make no such claim for myself.


Re: [Goanet] My Bonnie lies over the Ocean

2008-07-19 Thread Edward Verdes

Selma,
I guess u hv not come across Goemkars, who are holding top positions on
board the ships as Captains, Chief Officers, Chief Engineers, Supt...etc.
Do u think its easy now to get a job on ship as a cook without doing any
catering course n hotel experience. For even a trainee assistant cook, 
minimum 10th std
with 1 year in 5 star hotel experience is a must..Probably the guy who did 
his Hotel Management (if its 3 year Diploma)
will be joining as Catering Officer or chef de partie if he has min two 
years experince in star hotels.


Those days the gulfie/shippy worked as cooks waiters only to give their 
children a better education.


Dev borem korum
Edward Verdes



Dear Paulo,
I agree with you that there is a certain stigma attached to these jobs in
Goa but consider it from their point of view. Many of these men are
educated atleast upto 12th standard. I know quite a few who have done
their Bcom and are now working onboard ships as cooks. I even know someone
who did his Hotel management and is thinking of going onboard the ship.
Those who are not going onboard the ship will make their way to the UK and
join the packing crews in Swindon.


Dear Roland,
Please don't be so hard on Goa University. During its reign of 22 years, it 
has managed to produce more cooks onboard ships, more packers in Swindon, 
more houseboys in Kuwait and more illegal waiters in the US than any other 
university.








[Goanet] Thousands of pilgrims begin trek to mass - from ninemsn

2008-07-19 Thread Ruby Goes
This article appears in news.ninemsn.com.au and I thought you should see it.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=600189 

If you cannot click on the link above, copy and paste the entire address
below into your web browser. 
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=600189 

For all the latest news around the globe, check out ninemsn. 
http://ninemsn.com.au 

 

Good Morning Goanet World.

For your information.

rubygoes



[Goanet] NAVELIM crowned J.P Memorial KIFF League Champions in Kuwait

2008-07-19 Thread Goa World
 
NAVELIM crowned J.P Memorial KIFF League Champions in Kuwait
 
Kuwait: One of the most famous Goan football teams in Kuwait Navelim Youth 
Centre won the J.P D'Mello Memorial KIFF League Title for a record 5th time in 
the final played at Salmiya Grounds on Friday. 
 
G.O.A Maroons are second on the Championship list with 3 titles since the 
inception of the League in 1994.
 
The KIFF League 2007-08 which commenced in October last included 18 teams 
registered with the Kuwait Indian Football Federation.
 
Watch out for news and images of the final played on 18 July 2008, and the 
inside story!

 





Re: [Goanet] Goa University going Central

2008-07-19 Thread floriano


Sam,
W.r.t. GU
Here are the actual figures:
And you will be able to place GU's finances accordingly.


GU- Taleigao plateau -Balance Sheet

   LIABILITIES
Sr.No. Particulars
Schedule Amount (Rs) 2005-06   Amount (Rs) 2004-05
1. CAPITAL GRANTS FROM STATE GOVT AND ORS (I)
31,18,24,326.53   36,29,29,111.12
2. RESERVES  OTHER FUNDS
(II)   1,42,44,639.79 1,41,22,951.79
3. EXCESS OF EXPENDITURE OVER INCOME
   UPTO 31
  -- (-) 7,72,64,907.49
4. OTHER LIABILITIES
(III)  6,77,985.79   8,27,140.51
5. DEPSOTS RECEOVED
(IV)62,91,708.35 59,03,703.35
6. STUDENT WELFARE
(V)  5,51,738.004,78,398.00
7. ENDOWMENT AND DONATION FUND(VI)
45,16,624.35 43,17,971.59
8. BALANCE OF GRANTS RECEIVED TOWARDS
   SPECIFIC PURPOSE
2,52,84,474.32   2,84,37,165.72
9. SPECIFIC GRANTS RECEIVED TOWARDS
   FIXED ASSETS
(VII 16,65,22.522.21   15,45,98,875.71


  ---
 ---
TOTAL
52,99,14,019.34   49,43,50,410.30


 ---


Taleigao, Goa. Sd/-
Sd/-
Dated: 06-02-07 (Damodar J. Naik)(Dr.
Mohan M. Snagodkar)
   Finance Officer
Registrar



   ASSETS

1. FIXED ASSETS
1.1   Building and other works 2005-06   2004-05
   Cost   34,89,31,379.21
34,80,49,511.58  (VIII)
   Less Depreciation 8,03,80,422.29
7,40,27,792.29
---
--
  Net Block
26,85,50,956.9227,40,21,719.27

1.2   Equipment  Furniture
   Cost   19,18,34,,274.53
18,06,48,822.03 (VIII)
   Less Depreciation 9,88,86,071.29
8,61,92,887.29
  -   
---


9,29,48,203.24
9,44,55,934.74
1.3   Books
   Cost7,30,45,967.52
6,76,38,019.52  (VIII)
   Less Depreciation3,46,90,690.95
3,12,04,588.95
 -
-


  3,83,55,276.57
3,64,33,430.57
1.4   Vehicles
   Cost   30,40,713.59
19,62,744.59   (VIII)
   Less Depreciation   19,91,702.87
15,91,898.87
  -
---


  10,49,010,72
3,70,845.72

2.Expenditure against Grants
  to be received (Part III)
...  59,10,479.19
52,63,369.19

3.Advances  Deposits
(IX)   33,82,013.50   32,62,749.00

4.Other Assets
(X)  3,33,031.10  -

5.Cash Balance  Balances with Banks/
  Financial Institutions
  A. General Balances  7,88,10,376.804,01,88,276.81
  B.  Part III Balances  2,68,71,955.962,87,33,113.98
  C.  Endowment Fund
Bank Balance 50,73,049.39
39,47,954.75
  D.  Other Earmarked
Funds 86,29,655.95
76,73,016.27   11,93,85,048.10
8,05,42,361.81
 ---   
--
---   ---


Total
52,99,14,019.34   49,43,50,410.30


   
--
---



Taleigao, Goa. Sd/-
Sd/-
Dated: 31-03-06 (Damodar J. Naik)  (Dr.
Mohan M. Snagodkar)
   Finance Officer
Registrar



B/rgds

floriano



- Original Message - 




From: Samir Kelekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 4:53 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Goa University going Central



Selma writes:

As of now, it seems to those living outside of Goa, that the same
arguments can be tape-recorded and used for every Citizen's 

[Goanet] Tivim Feast on tomorrow Sunday 20th.

2008-07-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
Mass at 1.30 p.M. at St Boniface Church Tooting Bec, followed by
social. See you there perhaps, tonight it's off to see Elvis at
Cannizaro Park, Wimbledon.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


[Goanet] GOACAN to observe Consumers Road Safety Fortnight

2008-07-19 Thread Goa Desc
 
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your family members,
relatives, neighbours and friends. Help others be BETTER INFORMED
--
--
GOACAN to observe Consumers Road Safety Fortnight
--
GOACAN will observe a Consumers Road Safety Fortnight from
17th to 30th July to create awareness among the Consumers on
linkages of Road Safety issues and the Consumer Protection Act
as part of its ongoing Campaign on Road Safety  Traffic Management.

The fortnight long program is being organised with a view to create
Awareness, record Complaints and book Violations on issues of
Road Safety and Traffic Management keeping in mind the Rights
 Responsibilities of the Consumer.

While the statistics of injuries  deaths on the roads of Goa for
2008 are shocking, a lot needs to be done in the area of Road
Safety and Traffic Management with the direct involvement of the
Goan consumer to Organise and not just Agonise over the matter.

From January to June 2008, in the past 6 months there were 153 fatal
accidents in which 172 persons were killed - of  these 66 were
motorcycle riders,
20 pillion riders, 16 drivers, 36 pedestrians, 30 passengers, 2 cyclists and
2 others besides 164 persons suffered grievous injuries.

Lack of knowledge of the rules of the road, unsafe driving practices,
non use of helmets  seat belts, sale of fake helmets, lack of
maintenance of speed breakers  rumbler strips, the need for
Comfortable, Affordable
and Safe travel by public transport are some of the issues that will be
highlighted by GOACAN during this fortnight.

During the Road Safety Fortnight, the Consumer Forum volunteers will create
awareness on the changing usage of roads in Goa due to the increase in the
number of vehicles and promote the benefits of bus bays, notified bus stops,
zebra crossings, subways and proper signages.

Consumer Forum volunteers will compile and submit Road Safety 
Traffic Management
Plans for their respective villages to the Traffic Police, Transport
Department,
District Magistrate, Village Panchayats and Municipal Councils.

The Forum volunteers will also move resolutions at their respective
village Gram
Sabhas on road safety issues, for the listing and maintenance of  speed
breakers, rumbler strips and speed limit signages and the need for a Road
Engineering Cell (REC) within the Public Works Department (PWD) and the
formation of a Road Safety  Traffic Management Committee at the level of
the Village Panchayat and Municipal Council.

The Forum volunteers will promote the use of the Complaint Boxes of
the Consumer
Welfare Clubs (CWC) for student commuters in High Schools, HSS and
Colleges to report unsafe practices by public transport vehicles, non issue
of tickets, harassment by conductors and denial of 50% bus concession.

The campaign will also highlight the need for the Goa Government to
spend revenue
generated from fines of traffic offences on Road Safety Education and
strengthening the Traffic Police Cell  the Enforcement Wing of the Directorate
of Transport with necessary and sufficient personnel  equipment such
as interceptors, alcometers, night patrolling vehicles etc.
--
GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK
--
promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa
--
GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601
GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--


Re: [Goanet] Book In Black and White - editor FN

2008-07-19 Thread Carvalho

I am enjoying every minute of this book. Perhaps because we know so many of the 
writers on Goanet.

Valmiki, only because you mentioned it twice :-) It was Jesmal at Jesuit House. 
Jesema's was at the other end of town. They made the most delicious choritz pao 
but they never really got over the shock of losing their daughter in a tragic 
accident during a school picnic. That was a sad day in Panjim. 

There is a contribution from my dear friend Elston Soares now in Singapore. I 
still remember the day, Elston came to college with a huge grin on his face. He 
had got his break at a newspaper. Herald if I recall correctly. He knew even 
then exactly what his one and only true love was. Journalism.

And whatever happened to Bikram Vohra. He was last heard off in Dubai working 
for KT. I wonder if he is still there.

Selma



  


Re: [Goanet] Evaluating the past

2008-07-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 7/18/08, Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did I read you right, that the Greeks like Hippocrates or
 Galen were not practicing and teaching what they (and we)
 call scientific medicine? (see below)
  

Gilbert,

Yes, you read me right. Their medicine was pre-scientific. They practiced 
Aristotlean philosophy and common sense. The scientific method was not fully 
developed until the 13th century A.D. when Roger Bacon described it, although 
the Arabs were using its precursor as early as the 8th century. It was first 
applied in a systematic and comprehensive manner by Galileo in the 16th 
century. It was first introduced into medicine by Semmelweis and Pasteur in the 
19th century. Modern medicine did not become fully scientific in the sense of 
using the evidence-based approach until the second half of the 20th century. In 
fact, surgery started relying on this  approach only in the 1980s and 1990s.

As far as your nonsense about scientific fads is concerned, perhaps you are 
referring to some pre-scientific or pseudoscientific opinions and impressions. 
Real science does not have fads. It only has hypotheses that become established 
principles or have to be modified based on objective evidence. 

BTW, I noticed that you were not able to defend your moral equivalence of 
inquisition and medicine, with anything you wrote in your latest post in the 
Evaluating the past thread you created for that purpose.

Cheers,

Santosh




Re: [Goanet] read my blog: www.freebirdingoa.blogspot.com

2008-07-19 Thread anil desai
Lionel,
well done and keep it up.

Uk is the fifth largest economy in the world with total Annual GDP of
probably a thousand times more than Goa. Yet, recently under freedom of
Information act, newspapers released a story that Ex deputy PM John
Prescott's food bill for a particular year was £ 4000 equivalent to Rs
32. He was ridiculed for this and our thieves are spending several times
more than this.

Hopefully, some day goans will wake up and hang these fellows in some public
places.

As many people have said on several fora, all 40 thieves are just the same.
shamelessly sucking blood out of goan economy.

Anil Desai

2008/7/19 Lionel Messias [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 --
 Lionel Messias,
 Associate Editor,
 Herald,
 Goa
 Mob: 9822152164
 http://www.oheraldo.in/
 Read my blog: http://freebirdingoa.blogspot.com/


[Goanet] Margao photojournalists fake Moti Dongor sword picture? (Rajan Narayan, Goan Observer)

2008-07-19 Thread Goanet News
STRAY THOUGHTS: By Rajan Narayan [The Goan Observer, July 19-25, 2008]
Feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

Margao photojournalists fake
Moti Dongor sword picture?


And a few more stray thoughts and a few more observations for
yet another Sunday. For a Sunday following the week when the
Goa Bachao Abhiyan had strong reservations over accepting the
draft Regional Plan 2021 which has reportedly been finalized.

For a Sunday following the week when the Sangh Parivar-backed
citizens' welfare committee accused the GBA of becoming part
of the government. For a Sunday following the week when the
Times of India carried a report claiming yet another attempt
to topple the government by Vishwajit Rane. For a Sunday
following the week the editor of The Navhind Times, Arun
Sinha, sought the help of the Editors' Guild to take on
Penpricks.

GBA UPSET

AND a few more stray thoughts on the strong reservations of
the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA) on the draft Regional Plan,
which is ready and likely to be made public very soon.

When the draft Regional Plan 2021 was circulated among
members of the Task Force, which includes Dr Oscar Rebelo,
the convenor of the GBA, it was discovered that rules or
guidelines on acquisition of land by the Central and State
governments were included in the draft Regional Plan.

This is being strongly objected to by the GBA which has
rightly pointed out that the rules pertaining to acquisition
of land by the government are not relevant to the Regional
Plan 2021.

It may be recalled that the consultant to the Town and
Country Planning Department, Edgar Ribeiro, was asked to
frame the rules by Chief Minister Digamber Kamat following
the uproar over the amendment to the Town and Country
Planning Act, which exempted State and Central government
projects from the purview of the Regional Plan 2021.

LAND SHARKS

IT may be recalled that during the last session of the
legislative assembly, obviously under pressure from the
patrons of the land sharks, an amendment was made to the TCP
Act, exempting not only Central and State government projects
but even land acquired by the state for the benefit of
private parties from the purview of the Regional Plan 2021.

This was strongly objected to by the GBA, which pointed out
that the amendment would defeat the very purpose of
entrusting the preparation of the new draft Regional Plan to
the independent Task Force.

Though privately the Chief minister, who is the chairman of
the Task Force, kept assuring the GBA that rules would be
framed to prevent abuse of the amendment, the GBA did not
receive an official response to any of the three letters it
wrote protesting against the amendment.

Moreover, though draft rules for the acquisition of land by
the government were included in Appendix X of the interim
report of the Task Force, the Chief Minister has not
committed himself to even adopting, leave alone enforcing,
the rules.

In the meanwhile, pressure mounted on the convenor of the
GBA, Dr Oscar Rebelo, to present an ultimatum to the Chief
Minister on the amendment to the TCP Act.

It will be recalled that, last week, the GBA made it clear
that it would not settle for anything short of the abrogation
of the amendment to the TCP Act which exempted Central and
State government projects from the purview of the Regional
Plan 2021.

It is against this backdrop that Dr Oscar Rebelo had
reportedly refused to endorse the draft Regional Plan 2021.
Indeed, the Convenor has been under pressure to withdraw from
the GBA and was savaged by the saffron group within the GBA
for having endorsed the interim report. The reluctance of the
Chief Minister Digamber Kamat to make any commitment on the
demand for scrapping the amendment has strengthened the hands
of the fanatics and lunatics in the GBA and made it
embarassing for the moderates to continue to defend the Task
Force.

Indeed, there is every possibility that the GBA will be
hijacked by the lunatics and fanatics, or marginalized by
Sangh Parivar-promoted groups if it makes any compromise on
the demand that the government should scrap the amendments to
the TCP Act.

SANGH PARIVAR

AND a few stray observations on the continuing attempts by
the Sangh Parivar to marginalize the GBA.

It may be recalled that recently a group of individuals and
organizations sympathetic to, if not close to, Manohar
Parrikar attempted to start a rival GBA, deceptively called
GPA. Unfortunately for Rajan Parrikar and company, who had
promoted the GPA, it did not receive any significant response
from even the more established NGOs, leave along the 'aam
aadmi'.

On the contrary, even in the internutting world where the
Sangh Parivar and its sympathizers have a strong presence,
the audio visual presentation of Rajan Parrikar was dubbed as
destructively provocative. Which reportedly promoted an
unprintable response from Rajan Parrikar.

PARRIKAR LINK

THOUGH the GPA failed to take off, the 

[Goanet] Chapora Fort

2008-07-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Note: Those watching from abroad or with higher broadband speed may view this 
video and other recently uploaded videos in 'High Quality' mode

For this pl clik on link 'WATCH IN HIGH QUALITY' located just below the VIEWS.

Try it here..

Chapora Fort
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[Goanet] Bridge over trouble community relations

2008-07-19 Thread edward desilva

Selma said,
Such is the utter indifference of the Indian community to assimilation. Albeit 
my experiences were more with the Indian guest workers in the US, but some of 
them had been in the US for upto ten years. Yet, they led lives parallel and in 
complete apathy to their host country. Shopping in their own grocery stores, 
watching Bollywood and Tamil movies over the weekend, buying enough clothes in 
India to last their stay in America and constantly disparaging the American 
system of education which explores creativity rather than learning by rote. 
There is no curiosity at all about another culture, no interaction beyond the 
most superficial and no involvement in their community affairs. Instead they 
chose to live in a cocoon of India transplanted. (In good conscience, I must 
add here that in this respect Goans fare much more favorably, because there is 
a genuine willingness to assimilate when we migrate and it is this more than 
anything else that defines our
community in diaspora.)
-
Reply:
YET WE ARE CALLED 'PAKIS', eating kity kat food.
 
You have not lived long enough in the Western countries to realise that:
It took over 60 years for the Whites in UK to eat chicken tikka masala.
Most of the USA whites still do not know where India is (ask Dabya if he knew).
 
If it was not for the Indians sticking together, Southall would have been burnt 
to the ground.
 
People like you are called COCONUTS.
Brown outside White inside.
You think you are white because of your religion (so does the average Indian in 
India).
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[Goanet] Goa news for July 20, 2008

2008-07-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Jamir to be sworn in as Maharasthra Governor - Economic
Times
[22 hours ago]  MAHARASHTRA : After his tumultuous stint in
Goa, SC Jamir will be sworn in as Maharashtra governor on
Saturday. Mr Jamir currently holds the additional ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Jamir_to_be_sworn_in_as_Maharasthra_Governor_/articleshow/3252468.cmscid=1228273854ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNFT6Gf7OwQZCVpuJ0KdpaLYCVgFGQ

*** Goa may go into forced recession - Navhind Times
[3 hours ago]  by RAMNATH N PAI RAIKAR PANAJI #148; The
captains of industry in the state on Saturday predicted that
Goawould be drawn into a forced recessionwithin next ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=072070cid=1228362443ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNFDTGOk1CLgVrINtWaML7Je48qzzg

*** Blackmore blames GOA for Commonwealth Youth Games misstep -
Stabroek News
[14 hours ago]  Contrary to what was reported by the GOA, the
AAG president, who recently attended acouncil meeting of the
IAAF in Cali, Colombia said that he was reliably ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.stabroeknews.com/sports/blackmore-blames-goa-for-commonwealth-youth-games-misstep/cid=1228466050ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNGM4sQomR2ek-kyfcrdeOvUIQHdKw

*** 4 sites identified for garbage treatment in Goa, says CM -
Navhind Times
[3 hours ago]  Speaking to â#130;¬ËThe Navhind
Timesâ#130;¬#132;¢, Mr Kamat said the House committee had
visited some places in South and North Goa districts. The Chief
Minister informed ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=072071cid=1228550828ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNGCma-RAnNofk60wWotGTYUF2GyMw

*** Ravindra Bhavan will cater to S Goa artists: CM - Navhind
Times
[3 hours ago]  The Chief Minister of Goa, Mr Digamber Kamat,
expressing satisfaction over the completion of the project on
Saturday said thatMargao which is the commerce ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=072069cid=1228549698ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNHhgjD3gLOvVMaMHRVPfnLGCeb_Iw

*** Alarmed Centre rushes malaria experts to Goa - Times of
India
[Jul 17, 2008]  The team from the National Institute of Malaria
Research, an autonomous organisation under the Indian Council of
Medical Research, met doctors at Goa ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Alarmed_Centre_rushes_malaria_experts_to_Goa/articleshow/3247933.cmscid=0ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNHE9rYYUbdsjuTGEi3HjTvlmyEdew

*** Goa executive magistrates to be available on holidays -
Merinews
[15 hours ago]  GOA GOVERNMENT with a view to give solace to
public have made executive magistrate available on holidays too.
Following the grievances of the general public ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=137839cid=0ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNHtsf70gPWXMuVODYqtxBTKiEMMuQ

*** Fitout and Goa Velha in first day wins - GulfNews
[2 hours ago]  Dubai: Fitout and Goa Velha Al Zuari secured
convincing wins on the opening day of the corporate footballat
the DSS Gulf International Promotions Sportzone ...
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*** Goa, a home away from home for Punjabis - Navhind Times
[3 hours ago]  by ABDUL RAUF BEIG PANAJI ̢#130; The
Punjabis too came to Goa in large numbers and have made it their
home. There are about 1 Punjabis living in the state ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=072072cid=0ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNF31_SxXWp7HsL95PY9QuUbyBmlhg

*** Congress party favours compensating SEZ promoters in Goa -
Economic Times
[17 hours ago]  19 Jul, 2008, 1104 hrs IST, PTI PANAJI: The
Congress party in Goa favours compensating the Special Economic
Zone (SEZ) promoters whose projects were ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Congress_party_favours_compensating_SEZ_promoters_in_Goa/articleshow/3252937.cmscid=1228436560ei=-niCSIKzN5aQgAPU8eG-BAusg=AFQjCNFtY-sfxugI_8zA-4XD4OenB8eYxw


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[Goanet] Goa’s mango: HERALD(Goa), Jul y 20, 2008

2008-07-19 Thread Valmiki Faleiro



GOA’S MANGO
By Valmiki Faleiro

Goa’s mango season 2008 flopped. The rains this Feb / March deflowered the crop.
Prices went through the roof, as did local press coverage of the humble mango.

There was reason why mango suddenly became Goa’s journalistic celebrity this 
year:
with air charged over the impending entry of a national newspaper competing in 
Goa,
local English language dailies perked local news to never-before levels.

Anything and everything Goan suddenly became important. Including the mango, its
yield, past harvest stats, prices, its pests, its history, blah blah. Even poor 
cashew nut
made Page 1 banner headlines in Goa’s oldest English newspaper. Former editors 
of
that newspaper must have turned in their graves.

The new Goa edition of the national daily did not lag behind. Said its report 
on May 9:
“This situation is particularly ironic considering that Goa was one of the 
earliest places to
cultivate different varieties of mango in vast quantities, thanks to the 
Jesuits who brought
the fruit here in the 17th century.” That, amid a host of other shocking 
howlers.

The writer, obviously, was oblivious of the mango’s botanical name, “Mangifera 
indica.”
Else, he’d have known that Jesuits did not bring the mango to Goa in the 17th 
Century,
that mango is indigenous to India. It existed on Indian soil even before Lord 
Buddha,
forget the Portuguese and the Jesuits.

Sad we lost our ancient Buddhism, because it was Panna, an apostle of Lord 
Buddha,
who spread that pacifist faith on the west coast of India. Panna was a Goan 
Brahmin
from Ambaulim-Quepem, one of the first known Goan expatriates who, from Sopara,
traded areca nut and sandalwood with places as afar as Tibet and Mudguiri. In 
time,
Panna converted to Buddhism, spread the faith, and died in 543 BC, at age 80. 
Had we
known Buddhist lore, we would know that Lord Buddha was gifted with a mango 
orchard,
so he could rest in its abundant shade. Why, even a Hindu should know that 
mango is
part of our ancient folklore and religious customs … its leaf, for instance, is 
a decorative
tradition at some festivals.

Sheer blasphemy to say that Jesuits brought the mango to Goa. Europeans only 
taught
us the art of grafting, which is how Goa’s 100+ known mango varieties came 
about. As
for Jesuits, consider this: outside Benaulim’s St. John the Baptist church, an 
ancient
mango tree still produces luscious-looking, fleshy fruit. It is sweet on the 
outside but is
terribly sour inside. Wise Benaulim-kars christened it ‘Jesuita.’

We often go overboard when talking of the past, when giving credit to the 
‘firangis.’
There was this absolutely unadulterated nonsense that the Portuguese brought the
coconut to Goa and taught Goans to make feni. Coconut is of Indo-Malayan origin.
Indians, and Goans, knew distillation much before Portugal was born as a 
nation. From
times ancient, we made ‘Som Ras,’ nectar of the gods (and man.) An entire 
community,
the Bhandari Samaj, traditionally tapped toddy and distilled it into coconut 
urraca and
feni. The Portuguese, who brought cashew from Brazil, only showed how its 
juice, with
existing process, could turn into the celebrated Goan cashew feni.

Turning to mango, the greatest amount of work done to study, collect and 
preserve
different varieties of the Goan mango was by ICAR’s Dr. PA Mathew. He 
painstakingly
sourced and grafted 74 varieties and planted them on ICAR grounds as mother 
trees, for
future propagation. The present unworthy successor, Dr. SP Singh, busies 
himself only
talking … of propagating varieties from the North East, where he previously 
talked.

Two years ago, I told him where he could find mother trees of two rare 
varieties the
ICAR did not have, ‘Papel Branco’ and ‘Araujo.’ He is yet to collect scions and 
graft them
for posterity. Had Dr. Mathew been in his place, the ICAR would be richer by 
another
two distinct Goan mango varieties.

I’ll part with a thought to ponder over. Like tiny Goa on the western seaboard 
of India,
Portugal was a tiny nation on the western seaboard of the world’s then centre: 
Europe.
The Portuguese came here for spices, after the overland route to Asia closed 
down with
the fall of Constantinople during the Crusade wars. In time, they also 
colonialised Brazil.
They took the mango from India to the other side of the globe in Brazil (and 
from there,
to the western world.) They brought the cashew from Brazil/South America all 
the way to
India, and from here to the eastern world. Mango and cashew are botanical 
cousins
(Anacardiaceae.) Sounds strange? (Ends.)

The Valmiki Faleiro weekly column at:

http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=330

==
The above article appeared in the July 20, 2008 edition of the Herald, Goa



[Goanet] Penpricks likely to get busted soon?

2008-07-19 Thread Samir Kelekar
OF COLD FEET AND FROST BYTES: THE STORY OF THE GT INTERVIEW THAT WASN'T
PUBLISHED

With the Editor's guild going after penpricks, it is just a matter of time 
before penpricks will be nailed.

Penprick's IP address can be easily revelead by the ISP. If authorities 
subponea the ISP, they are bound to reveal penprick's ISP.

The only way out for penpricks is to use a proxy to do whatever he does, and 
that too he should use a proxy which is hosted and belongs to a company which 
is in a country where the privacy laws are much stronger than in India.

regards,
Samir





  


[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Kimsam Porian Mogak Axetat

2008-07-19 Thread lino dourado



 Kimsam Porian Mogak Axetat
  
“Ago udd, udd. Anopheles, tuzo jiv zai zalear uddun voch”
 
“Kitem zalam re. Itli taket kiteak?” 
 



Zollarek vo kimsank marpachem vokhodd xinvraitoleak pollevn, ek daddlo zollar 
(male mosquito) bail zollarek (female mosquito) vego-veg to zago soddun vochunk 
xiddkavnni ditalo. Taleigao-che don vadde, Bor Bhat ani Vhoddlem Bhat zollarank 
ekdom rovnneche (breeding) zage nond zaleat. Thoinsorli zollar mornnank pavoita 
tosli plasmodium parasite hi ek vikali pidda posraita ani lokache bholaikecher 
ani jivacher chodduch bhirant haddtta mhunn Ponnjent ravpi Dr. Madhav Wagle 
hannem usko porgottaila. Zori zollarechem noxtt khobar korunk vo tabo dovorunk 
Munsupaliti, Panchayat ani Bholaike Khatem zata titlea vegim upai ghena zalear 
Gõyant ‘malaria’ mornancho ankddo vaddtolo hi ek gombhir xiddkavnni dilea.
 
Aplo jiv vattovpak, thoddi zollar vo kimsam vokhodd martelea zageavelim jiv 
aslear bhik magin, oxe toren pollun vetalim. Tatuntlim don zollari jiv 
vattoupache boballar astana, bail zollar asli ti vochun eka mon’xacher bosli. 
Tednam, ticho daddlo sangati aroddlo.
 
“ Ago Anopheles, taka chabu naka,” 
 
“Kiteak? Tuzo soiro lagta kitem?” Bail zollaren vicharlem
 
“Takach lagun amchi sonsot Taleigoa ganvant jiyeta.” Ani ekuch zompoi marun 
daddlo zollaren aple sangati bail zollarek chabunk boslelea mon’xaveli poisaili 
ani dogaim vochun eka santtun aslelea udkan boslim.
 

“DDT vokhddanchi ‘insecticides spray’ marun amchi sonsot nopoit kortat. Ani 
bolkavant ubo ravun to mouza polleta. Mhaka rag ailo. Dekhunuch, hanv taka 
chabunk gelim. Punn tuvem chabunk diunk na. To konn? Ani tum taka koso 
vollkota?”
 
“Vollkota? Taleigao-cho badshah to. Gõycho Montri aslo tednam, tannenuch Gõyant 
vhodd-vhodd imaroti zavncheo mhunn vorixtt prokolp (project) ube kele. 
Udorgottichea nanvan pachvi rongi Gõy aslem tem konkritache korchelem khatir 
Gõychi zomin bhailea dhonddekarank vikpak suru keli. Oxe toren vorixtt imaroti 
bandpache prokolp suru zale. Ani te banddpak, Gõyant kamdar lok naslelean 
bhaile lokak vo hangasorlo lok somzotole bhasen ‘ghantti’ lokak haddcho poddlo. 
Ani ho Orisa, Jharkhand, Kholapur prantanlo kamdar lok Gõyant yetanam malaria 
zavpa sarkelim ‘dhenge’, ‘chikungunya’ duensam bandkapam zatelea zagear 
(construction sites) odik promonnan gheun ailo. Amchi zollaranchi sonsot 
vhaddounk adhar kortelea Babuk, natak korunk sodta tum? Dekhunuch, taka chabpak 
hanvem tuka monam kelem.”
 
“Mhaka khoim khobor? To amcho sorvonddar mhunn? “
 
“Itlean somplem na. Ponnje lagsor aslelea ganvanim 85 tok’ke malaria duens 
bhailea kamdarachea vorvim posorta mhunn halinch Gõychea disaleancher avaz 
zala. Kuddiche sabar bhag piddear zaun ‘plasmodium vivax’ hea  malaria duensan 
sompunk Siolechi tornni ostori poili asa khoim. Bihar-cho 18 vorsancho tornatto 
Sunil Kumar ‘plasmodium vivax’-cho dusro malaria boli poddlo mhunn Gõychi 
Voizki Kolej hospital khobor dita. Candolim tem Baga dorya dheger ravpi lokak 
amchi sonsot sotaita mhunn netan khobro bhair sortat. Moddganv Hospicio 
hospitalant OPD-int disantlean xeboreamni Arlem, Aquem, Davorlim, Colva, 
Benaulim, Pedda, Betul, Cuncolim ganvcho lok ilaz ghetamna 10 tem 15 malaria 
piddeche ‘positive’ boli (victim) astat.  Bildingam bandpam choltele Moddganv 
xarant, Kansavlle ganvant amchi zollar sonsot itli choddlea, thoinsorlo lok 
sanjechi 5 horancher ghoranchim daram-zonnelam damptta khoim…….”
 
“Punn, Gõyche Amdar-Montri duent poddonant kitem?” Daddlo zollar uloitamna 
modench bail zollaren tondd ghalun vicharlem.
 
“Tankam koslem duens zatelem? Tankam fokot ekuch duens asa. Ani tem mhonnlear 
Gõyche porjechi tizori riti korchi. Tanche ghoranim ‘mosquito coils’ zolltat 
zalear tanchea bhurgeank ani kamdarank amche ghansantle samballunk ‘mosquito 
nets’ ghalun nidhoitat.”
 
“Sarkem tanchem.” Bail zollaren mhonnlem
 
“Oxem kiteak mhonnta tum? Daddlea zollaren vicharlem
 
“Zori amche ‘malaria’ piddent Amdar-Montri mele zalear? Tanchim bhurgim melim 
zalear? Jem meren Gõyant dovdir haddtele jive astele te meren amche 
zollarinchem raj choltelem nhoi? Porja melear zata. Amdar-Montri jive urlear 
puro. Ho poi. Taka vollkota tum?” bail zollaren vicharlem
 
“Konn to?” 
 
“ Nanvacho boro ugddas na, punn to zaun asa The National Vector Borne Diseases 
Control Programme cell of the DoHS  (Directorate of Health Services)”
 
“Ago, itlem lamb korun kitem sangta? Motthvea utramnim sang nhoi?”
 
“Udkantlean zatele jontucher tabo dovorpi vhodle dotor bab te. Mhonnchem, amche 
zollar sonsot natak korunk bore upai sodun kaddpi.”
 
“Kitem? Ekuch pavtti tacher bosun chabcho taka?” Daddlea zollaren vicharlem
 
“Aga, mhojea ixtta. Tuje lagim kitem zata? Malaria pidda eka mon’xa koddsun 
dusrea mon’xak fokot Anopheles bail zollaren diunk zata. Ani ti hanv. Ha, 
ha….Punn ekuch ha, ha… ekuch tujean diunk ieta tem, jedna mhaka pidda lagtta 
tedna ti bori korunk tujean zata…….”
 
“Kosli pidda?”
 

[Goanet] Fw: A (Su-Raj) Goan at the Oval Office of the White House posing with the President of the U.S.A.

2008-07-19 Thread floriano


- Original Message - 
From: goasuraj

To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: A (Su-Raj) Goan at the Oval Office of the White House posing with 
the President of the U.S.A.



What the papers of 20 July, 2008 say.

Bush thanks US Goan for work on Eco Issues - Herald
Deepa Dhume meets Bush - NT
Goan girl meets Bush - GT Weekender

(Herald Newsdesk)

Photo inset caption: Ms. Deepa Dhume seen with US President George W. Bush 
at the Oval Office of the President in the White House, USA.


Deepa Dhume, originally hailing from Cumbarjua, had the privilege of posing 
for a photograph with US President George W. Bush at the Oval Office of the 
White House at a celebration marking the release of the 2008 Economic Report 
of the President.


During the meeting, President Bush thanked Deepa Dhume for her contribution 
to international economic issues.


Deepa has the distinction of working as a Fellow at the White House Council 
of Economic Advisors. She is currently pursuing a PhD in Economics at the 
Harvard University.


She is the daughter of Architect Bholanath and Prabha Dhume from New Orleans 
and the grand-daughter of noted temple historian, late Vinayak Narayan 
Shenvi Dhume from Cumbarjua ( and the neice of Dr. N.S. Dhume, President of 
the Goa Su-Raj Party).


The 2008 Economic Report of the President is an annual publication written 
by the staff of the Council of Economic Advisors (CEA). The CEA provides 
analysis and advice to the President on a wide variety of domestic and 
international economic policy issues. The work of the CEA varies on a daily 
basis, both in terms of content and scope. While at times the staff conducts 
long-term research to prepare for White House presentations, rapid analysis 
and response is often requested by White House staff to guide policy 
preparation of speechwriting on the issues of the day.


Ms. Deepa focused mainly on international economics issues and worked 
closely with individuals from across the US government, including officials 
from the National Economic Council, National Security Council, the 
Department of Treasury and the Department of State.


COMMENTS

Whow!! Deepaji, you have given us, here in GOA a veritable BLAST to burn 
ourselves in your glory. That you have made it to the Oval Office of the 
White House is one thing but posing with the 2 term President of the U.S.A. 
for the world to acknowledge your achievement is another thing altogether. 
Deepa, you have made us PROUD.

PROUD PROUD.

Come to think of it, we at Goa Su-Raj Party are especially overjoyed since 
we now have an in-house 'Ecomonist' of International repurte to guide our 
rather nano- economics of the State of GOA which seems to be growing into 
the ground rather than showing its head up.


Deepa, you have not only made your parents and youR immediate family friends 
proud of your achievement,  but also you have made your dear UNCLE  the 
proudest of them all who is at the helm of the forward looking Goa Su-Raj 
Party of GOA, by GOANS for GOANS.


Thank you for this unique treat.

Sd/-
Floriano Lobo
Gen. Secretary/Spokesman,
Goa Su-Raj Party 



[Goanet] Thalis get a taste of inflation

2008-07-19 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
Thalis get a taste of inflation
20 Jul 2008, 0612 hrs IST, Raju Nayak,TNN

PANAJI: Inflation is affecting a core ingredient of Goa's identity. The
staple xit-codi, with its serving of rice, fish/prawn curry and fried
fish, has turned frugal. 

Not only has the chunky slab of kingfish or a masala-stuffed fried
mackerel been replaced by scrawny sardines, even the rice has turned a
starch too gooey. 

I have seen nothing but sardines served in the rice plate, at three
restaurants, over the last week, said Rahul Fernandes, a lunch-time
regular who frequents several eateries in Panaji. 

Another regular, Lawrence D'Cunha of Margao who works in Panaji, said,
The rice served in a prominent restaurant a few days ago was actually
grey. However, complaints to the restaurant's management saw the rice
upgraded the next day, he added. 

A restaurant owner said, Rice commonly used in the thali has gone up
from Rs 350 to Rs 670 for a 25 kilo bag of commonly used quality. Ditto
for edible palm oil that shot up from Rs 400 for a box of 10 litres to
Rs 690. 
Restaurant owners say that in such a scenario, there's not much they can
do about their measly servings. 
Some have even pulled the bigger fish off their menus. Rubbing salt in
the already fried scene, most have also upped their prices. 

A 'rice plate' with a serving of mudoshi (lady fish) now costs Rs 40 at
some restaurants. It's up by Rs 10. Ditto for the hole-in-the-wall
joints that serve home-made fish-curry rice. The fistful of rice, vata
(bowl) of gravy and fried sardines has gone up from Rs 25 to Rs 30. A
month ago, the Campal-based Sports Authority of Goa canteen increased
its price for a 'rice plate' from Rs 20 to Rs 25. They, however, only
serve sardines. 

The rise is attributed to the demand for fish during the 45-day fishing
ban period. M N Ibrahim, the main fish importer for the state, told TOI
that despite a severe drop in the availability of local fish, people in
Goa still want to eat fish.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Thalis_get_a_taste_of_inflation/a
rticleshow/3254745.cms

~(^^)~

Avelino