Re: [google-appengine] htaccess

[Manny S]

Thanks for the info. Will look into the DOS API.
Manny

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Barry Hunter
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> Other than the DOS API
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/dos.html
>
> you have to handle this sort of 'protection' at the application level.
>
> On 6 May 2010 19:06, Manny S  wrote:
> > A noob question -
> > Used to have an .htaccess file I created from here
> > - http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess13.shtml that blocks out a
> > bunch of site rippers and bad bots. Any equivalent of the .htaccess file
> in
> > app engine.  Would be great if you could point me in the right
> direction. I
> > use the Java environment.
> > Regards,
> > Manny
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[google-appengine] Re: status code 204

[Stephen]

On May 6, 9:40 pm, Ulrich  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am seeing a lot of "204"-responses in my logs. What does this mean?


Could be this:

http://www.kyle-jensen.com/proxy-caching-on-google-appengine

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Re: [google-appengine] status code 204

[Jawaad Mahmood]

Perhaps this is a response made when there is a POST request to a page  
that only has GET handlers?


Sent from my iPhone

On 2010/05/07, at 5:40, Ulrich  wrote:


Hi,

I am seeing a lot of "204"-responses in my logs. What does this mean?
Wikipedia says: "204 is the HTTP status code indicating the request  
was received but there is no response to the request", but this  
information does not really help me to understand why this is  
happening.



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[google-appengine] Re: Dashboard current load counters being reset

[Chris Killpack]

And it happened again yesterday :( Is anyone else seeing this problem?

Chris

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Chris Killpack  wrote:

> On 3 separate occasions in the last 3 weeks, including today and 4/29, the
> current load counters for my app's handlers have been reset during the 24
> hour window. This is annoying, as I rely on these counters to measure server
> traffic over days*. AFAICT the reset doesn't happen more than once in a 24hr
> window.
>
> Is this expected behavior, and is anyone else seeing this?
>
> Chris
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> * I am trying to get Analytics working, but for various reasons it's not
> achievable right now (Google Chrome extensions + GA JS incompatibility).
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Re: [google-appengine] Problem Deploying Static Files

[djidjadji]

If you update the default version sometimes the new static files are
not updated correctly.
Workaround: use 2 versions and update the non-default version and make
it default when update is complete.

2010/5/6 Andrew Johnson :
> I pushed a new version of my website, but now the CSS and static images are
> not deploying properly.
>
> Here is the messed up page: http://www.gaiagps.com
>
> Appengine shows the latest version as being correct
> though: http://1.latest.gaiagps.appspot.com/
>
> Any help?
>
> I also posted this question on
> SO: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2783082/css-file-not-updating-on-deploy-google-appengine
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> Regards,
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> Andrew
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[google-appengine] status code 204

[Ulrich]

Hi,

I am seeing a lot of "204"-responses in my logs. What does this mean?
Wikipedia says: "204 is the HTTP status code indicating the request was 
received but there is no response to the request", but this information 
does not really help me to understand why this is happening.



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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Query with ancestor and JDO

[Jaroslav Záruba]

Ah, it is the parentKey property again.
Seems like I don't have another choice.
Anyways, given the key is supposed to contain whole ancestor chain, this
seems weird.

2010/5/6 Jaroslav Záruba 

> I mean "it can't be done" without another property.
> Currently I'm looking at the last code example in Uses For 
> transactions
> ...
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 9:40 PM, timwhunt  wrote:
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>> Hi Jaroslav,
>>
>> I didn't take it as "it can't be done", but I haven't tried to
>> implement it, and this stuff is new to me.  The suggestions included a
>> parent property in the child object, which seems fairly
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[google-appengine] Re: Where to start? Who to talk to?

[John Gardner]

I think this group is the best way to contact folks; many of us on
here are building or porting applications of various sizes.

I'm not sure you'll get one-on-one time with any Googlers, but they
frequently weigh in here; ask away on the forums if it's general
purpose information.

I've built a couple of apps on GAE over the past year, so if you have
some quick cloud or GAE getting-oriented questions, I'm happy to
answer a few; contact me directly if you like.

-John

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> Thanks for your reply Ikai.
>
> How does one contact these Gurus? Is there a way to contact them
> directly, in the context of Google personnel? I think I really need to
> pick someone's brains for half an hour.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
>
> On May 4, 7:24 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
>
> > One place you can start is by asking for help from our Gurus:
>
> >https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine
>
> > API Gurus:
>
> >    - Alexander Kojevnikov
> >    - Bill Katz
> >    - Geoffrey Spear (Wooble)
>
> > We'll need to qualify a few more.
>
> > Anyone in the community looking to do some consulting work?
>
> > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Rob  wrote:
> > > Hi All,
>
> > > I am a some-time developer of conventional PC applications which are
> > > used by commercial and academic users. I reluctantly got into writing
> > > software because I needed applications to support the hardware I sell.
> > > I could find nothing suitable and could not afford to hire a developer
> > > so I learned to write in VB. My PC apps are getting outdated and I am
> > > not sure that rewriting them for newer platforms is the best way to
> > > go. I identified the need for a Web based application several years
> > > ago but I have not had the time to develop one. I have no prospect of
> > > finding the time in the next year. I am too busy and too far behind
> > > the learning curve. Perhaps I am just getting too old.
>
> > > One problem I have with my PC apps is that my customers range from
> > > individuals, small business people and hobbyists, to multinational
> > > corporations with numerous sites. This requires a range of
> > > applications and price points. The applications have diverged and I
> > > can see the day when support will become impossible. I like to think
> > > it would be possible to serve all of my customers with one scaleable
> > > set of tools.
>
> > > My Web application would involve some pretty straightforward data
> > > uploading and reporting. That side of it does not scare me too much.
> > > However, it also needs user management, things like users permitting
> > > others to view their data, and the handling of subscriptions and
> > > payments. That area is an entirely closed book for me. I need to
> > > decide whether to build and host the thing myself or use a cloud based
> > > application. I like the idea of using Google App Engine but I am not
> > > sure if it is appropriate.
>
> > > I could really use some help from those knowledgeable about App Engine
> > > to determine if it will fit my needs. If so, I need to find a
> > > developer to work with. My company has a modest budget for initial
> > > development. We would be really happy if we could have a "proof of
> > > concept" application running by the end of 2010. Does anyone know who
> > > I could talk to or where I might start to achieve this?
>
> > > Thanks in advance,
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Cannot create additional applications

[Christopher Fraser]

Problem solved.

Thanks,

Chris

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Re: [google-appengine] Cannot create additional applications

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[google-appengine] Re: "Request was aborted after waiting too long"

[Millisecond]

Odd, our app had gotten to a point where it was working pretty well
until this.

Since maintenance yesterday it's been all over the place, not even
sure how many errors it's throwing, the counters keep resetting.
Sometimes on their own, and once on deploying a new version with
1.3.3.1.  But about 500 errors in the last 15 minutes.

App id: noticeorange

-C

On May 6, 12:03 pm, bsb  wrote:
> And for me, it's magically working flawlessly again today. Google, did
> you do something? That would be good. If you didn't, it means the
> service is extremely unreliable: That'd be really bad...
>
> Ben
>
> On May 6, 8:02 pm, Joshua Smith  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > +1  Here is my error:
>
> > 05-06 11:00AM 46.656 / 500 10544ms 0cpu_ms 0kb Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; 
> > Intel Mac OS X 10_6_3; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.22.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
> > Version/4.0.5 Safari/531.22.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> > 216.230.77.82 - - [06/May/2010:11:00:57 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 500 0 - 
> > "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_3; en-us) 
> > AppleWebKit/531.22.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 
> > Safari/531.22.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)" "fix3dpdf.v-central.com"
> > W05-06 11:00AM 57.200
> > Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your 
> > request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving cluster 
> > is under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this message 
> > frequently, please contact the App Engine team.
>
> > On May 6, 2010, at 12:53 PM, bFlood wrote:
>
> > > my task queue is filled with these today. each task had been paired
> > > back to 20 small entity puts.
>
> > > On May 6, 11:42 am, mkmanning  wrote:
> > >> One of my apps started getting this yesterday and the problem
> > >> continued all day, and is still there this a.m. This is happening any
> > >> time you visit the app. The error log for "/" shows:
>
> > >> "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
> > >> request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving
> > >> cluster is under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this
> > >> message frequently, please contact the App Engine team."
>
> > >> This started after my app had been up and running for months, with no
> > >> changes; worked the day before, then dead.
>
> > >> Nothing in the system status shows what the cause may be or what (if
> > >> anything) is being done about this.
>
> > >> On May 5, 12:56 pm, bsb  wrote:
>
> > >>> I also get the same error with cron jobs in another app of mine. This
> > >>> has only started happening recently. Can someone @ Google please take
> > >>> a look at this?
>
> > >>> On May 5, 10:18 am, Benjamin Schuster-Böckler 
> > >>> wrote:
>
> >  I'm getting loads of these. It's ok with the deferred tasks, as they 
> >  are rescheduled, but the cron jobs (to be run every 10min) just don't 
> >  run if this happens, causing unpredictable behaviour of my app. 
> >  Effectually, the cron only runs eery few hours, because most of the 
> >  time, this error occurs. What can I do to fix this? Do I really need 
> >  to have a dummy task to constantly hammer instances so the app stays 
> >  loaded?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Query with ancestor and JDO

[Jaroslav Záruba]

I mean "it can't be done" without another property.
Currently I'm looking at the last code example in Uses For
transactions
...

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>
> I didn't take it as "it can't be done", but I haven't tried to
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[google-appengine] Re: Query with ancestor and JDO

[timwhunt]

Hi Jaroslav,

I didn't take it as "it can't be done", but I haven't tried to
implement it, and this stuff is new to me.  The suggestions included a
parent property in the child object, which seems fairly
straightforward.  However, I was expecting/looking for methods that
worked on the inherent properties of keys.

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[google-appengine] Re: can't vacuum index

[Pete]

I was having the same issue and managed to fix it by doing the vacuum/
update from another computer. My original upload was done using the
Mac SDK and I got the vacuum/update working using a PC. Not sure if
that had anything to do with it or if it's just a matter of performing
the actions from another computer...

-Pete


On May 5, 8:46 pm, Yao  wrote:
> I am getting this same error too.
> I can't vacuum the index either.
>
> On May 6, 8:35 am, frogrod  wrote:
>
>
>
> > i found this in the admin logs
>
> > 2010-05-05 15:22:39     frog...@gmail.com  Delete failed; attempting to
> > move 1 index(es) to Error       kinds=ww_wwunit
> > 2010-05-05 15:22:39     frog...@gmail.com  Deleted 1 index(es)
> > kinds=ww_wwunit
>
> > On May 5, 3:18 pm, frogrod  wrote:
>
> > > the dashboard
> > > ww_wwunit
> > > type_ ▲ , level ▲
> > > Serving
> > > type_ ▲ , level ▼
> > > Serving
> > > type_ ▲ , origin ▲ , level ▲
> > > Error
>
> > > this is what i got for output
>
> > > appcfg.py vacuum_indexes BurningPickles
>
> > > This index is no longer defined in your index.yaml file.
>
> > > kind: ww_wwunit
> > > properties:
> > > - name: type_
> > > - name: origin
> > > - name: level
>
> > > Are you sure you want to delete this index? (N/y/a):
>
> > > On May 5, 3:04 pm, frogrod  wrote:
>
> > > > i can't vacuum an index in error state i get
>
> > > > Deleting a composite index failed: ApplicationError: 1
>
> > > > appid: burningpickles
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[google-appengine] Two apps on different subdomains of the same domain

[Honza Pokorny]

Here is a setup that I would like to have, please tell me if it's
possible.

My domain is domain.com.

I want to have one app on one.domain.com, and a different app on
two.domain.com.

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Re: [google-appengine] htaccess

[Barry Hunter]

Other than the DOS API
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/dos.html

you have to handle this sort of 'protection' at the application level.

On 6 May 2010 19:06, Manny S  wrote:
> A noob question -
> Used to have an .htaccess file I created from here
> - http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess13.shtml that blocks out a
> bunch of site rippers and bad bots. Any equivalent of the .htaccess file in
> app engine.  Would be great if you could point me in the right direction. I
> use the Java environment.
> Regards,
> Manny
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[google-appengine] Re: "Request was aborted after waiting too long"

[bsb]

And for me, it's magically working flawlessly again today. Google, did
you do something? That would be good. If you didn't, it means the
service is extremely unreliable: That'd be really bad...

Ben

On May 6, 8:02 pm, Joshua Smith  wrote:
> +1  Here is my error:
>
> 05-06 11:00AM 46.656 / 500 10544ms 0cpu_ms 0kb Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; 
> Intel Mac OS X 10_6_3; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.22.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
> Version/4.0.5 Safari/531.22.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> 216.230.77.82 - - [06/May/2010:11:00:57 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 500 0 - 
> "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_3; en-us) 
> AppleWebKit/531.22.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 
> Safari/531.22.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)" "fix3dpdf.v-central.com"
> W05-06 11:00AM 57.200
> Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your 
> request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving cluster is 
> under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this message frequently, 
> please contact the App Engine team.
>
> On May 6, 2010, at 12:53 PM, bFlood wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > my task queue is filled with these today. each task had been paired
> > back to 20 small entity puts.
>
> > On May 6, 11:42 am, mkmanning  wrote:
> >> One of my apps started getting this yesterday and the problem
> >> continued all day, and is still there this a.m. This is happening any
> >> time you visit the app. The error log for "/" shows:
>
> >> "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
> >> request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving
> >> cluster is under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this
> >> message frequently, please contact the App Engine team."
>
> >> This started after my app had been up and running for months, with no
> >> changes; worked the day before, then dead.
>
> >> Nothing in the system status shows what the cause may be or what (if
> >> anything) is being done about this.
>
> >> On May 5, 12:56 pm, bsb  wrote:
>
> >>> I also get the same error with cron jobs in another app of mine. This
> >>> has only started happening recently. Can someone @ Google please take
> >>> a look at this?
>
> >>> On May 5, 10:18 am, Benjamin Schuster-Böckler 
> >>> wrote:
>
>  I'm getting loads of these. It's ok with the deferred tasks, as they are 
>  rescheduled, but the cron jobs (to be run every 10min) just don't run if 
>  this happens, causing unpredictable behaviour of my app. Effectually, 
>  the cron only runs eery few hours, because most of the time, this error 
>  occurs. What can I do to fix this? Do I really need to have a dummy task 
>  to constantly hammer instances so the app stays loaded?
>
>  Thanks in advance,
>  Ben
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[google-appengine] Re: Index error -- vacuum error, too

[Pete]

Okay, was able to solve the problem by vacuuming/updating from the
WINDOWS tool... I had origionally created the indexes with the MAC
tool. So it appears the problem can be solved by suing a tool in a
different OS then the first tool... or maybe on a different
computer...

Not really sure why that would matter. But it did the trick. So
whatever works. :-)

On May 6, 11:16 am, Pete  wrote:
> I'm running the latest version of the SDK. Errors are still there as
> of today.
>
> On May 6, 10:31 am, Charlie  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > My problem has fixed itself this morning.
>
> > One thing I discovered was that I was using an old version of the SDK
> > (2 versions old) to run appcfg.py.
>
> > This morning running the latest version of appcfg.py worked to vacuum
> > and create new index I needed (well, new index is still building, but
> > everything seems OK so far).
>
> > So either the server sorted itself out over night or using the old
> > command was the problem.
>
> > On May 5, 10:18 pm, VladS  wrote:
>
> > > I got the same problem.
> > > My Indexes stuck in "Error" state and can't be deleted or removed
> > > using Python SDK with the same error message.
>
> > > Application Id: pyx4j-poc  and pyx4j-tester
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[google-appengine] htaccess

[Manny S]

A noob question -
Used to have an .htaccess file I created from here -
http://www.javascriptkit.com/howto/htaccess13.shtml that blocks out a bunch
of site rippers and bad bots. Any equivalent of the .htaccess file in app
engine.  Would be great if you could point me in the right direction. I use
the Java environment.

Regards,
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: "Request was aborted after waiting too long"

[Joshua Smith]

+1  Here is my error:

05-06 11:00AM 46.656 / 500 10544ms 0cpu_ms 0kb Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel 
Mac OS X 10_6_3; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.22.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 
Safari/531.22.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
216.230.77.82 - - [06/May/2010:11:00:57 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 500 0 - 
"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_3; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.22.7 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Safari/531.22.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)" 
"fix3dpdf.v-central.com"
W05-06 11:00AM 57.200
Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your request. 
This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving cluster is under 
unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this message frequently, please 
contact the App Engine team.

On May 6, 2010, at 12:53 PM, bFlood wrote:

> my task queue is filled with these today. each task had been paired
> back to 20 small entity puts.
> 
> 
> 
> On May 6, 11:42 am, mkmanning  wrote:
>> One of my apps started getting this yesterday and the problem
>> continued all day, and is still there this a.m. This is happening any
>> time you visit the app. The error log for "/" shows:
>> 
>> "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
>> request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving
>> cluster is under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this
>> message frequently, please contact the App Engine team."
>> 
>> This started after my app had been up and running for months, with no
>> changes; worked the day before, then dead.
>> 
>> Nothing in the system status shows what the cause may be or what (if
>> anything) is being done about this.
>> 
>> On May 5, 12:56 pm, bsb  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I also get the same error with cron jobs in another app of mine. This
>>> has only started happening recently. Can someone @ Google please take
>>> a look at this?
>> 
>>> On May 5, 10:18 am, Benjamin Schuster-Böckler 
>>> wrote:
>> 
 I'm getting loads of these. It's ok with the deferred tasks, as they are 
 rescheduled, but the cron jobs (to be run every 10min) just don't run if 
 this happens, causing unpredictable behaviour of my app. Effectually, the 
 cron only runs eery few hours, because most of the time, this error 
 occurs. What can I do to fix this? Do I really need to have a dummy task 
 to constantly hammer instances so the app stays loaded?
>> 
 Thanks in advance,
 Ben
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[google-appengine] New App - SkateNav

[brandoneggar]

Just wanted to share with everyone that my new app is up and running
at http://skatenav.com .  It's been a fun ride getting it to this
point.  Hope you all like.

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[google-appengine] Re: send_mail sender restrictions and Google Apps Premier

[Brandon Bloom]

RE: The documentation

Up to date:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/overview.html
"The From: address can be the email address of a registered
administrator (developer) of the application, the current user if
signed in with Google Accounts, or any valid email receiving address
for the app (that is, an address of the form
str...@appid.appspotmail.com)."

Not up to date:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/sendingmail.html
"The sender address can be either the email address of a registered
administrator for the application, or the email address of the current
signed-in user (the user making the request that is sending the
message)."

On May 6, 4:36 am, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
wrote:
> Hi Brandon,
>
> Any email address your app can receive email on (eg, appspotmail addresses)
> are also valid - could you use them as your sender addresses?
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brandon Bloom  wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > My app sends and receives mail on a variety of @mydomain addresses.
> > These addresses are Google Apps user accounts, but after initial
> > setup, all of their mail is forward to an appspotmail address and
> > these users never login. I set it up this way due to GAE's send_mail
> > sender restrictions [1].
>
> > I am considering upgrading my Google Apps Standard account to Google
> > Apps Premier. While there are only 2 actual human accounts, there are
> > half a dozen dummy accounts to satisfy Google Apps. These accounts
> > would cost me $50/year each if I were to upgrade. I have not yet tried
> > making only a single dummy account with various aliases (nicknames?),
> > but that would still cost me $50/year for the fake user account.
>
> > I contacted the Google Apps sales team, but they said that they do not
> > provide free or "standard" accounts on premier domains
> > (understandably). They suggested that I contact the Google App Engine
> > team to see if there a suggested workaround.
>
> > Is there a workaround?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Brandon Bloom
>
> > [1] "The sender address can be either the email address of a
> > registered administrator for the application, or the email address of
> > the current signed-in user (the user making the request that is
> > sending the message)."
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[google-appengine] Re: send_mail sender restrictions and Google Apps Premier

[Brandon Bloom]

Hi Nick,

> Any email address your app can receive email on (eg, appspotmail addresses)
> are also valid

I did not realize that. Maybe the documentation should be updated?

> could you use them as your sender addresses?

The message would appear as "From: Specified Name
" right?

Is there anyway to get that to say "From: Specified Name
"?

Thanks,
Brandon

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[google-appengine] Problem Deploying Static Files

[Andrew Johnson]

I pushed a new version of my website, but now the CSS and static images are
not deploying properly.

Here is the messed up page: http://www.gaiagps.com

Appengine shows the latest version as being correct though:
http://1.latest.gaiagps.appspot.com/

Any help?

I also posted this question on SO:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2783082/css-file-not-updating-on-deploy-google-appengine

Regards,

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[google-appengine] Re: "Request was aborted after waiting too long"

[bFlood]

my task queue is filled with these today. each task had been paired
back to 20 small entity puts.



On May 6, 11:42 am, mkmanning  wrote:
> One of my apps started getting this yesterday and the problem
> continued all day, and is still there this a.m. This is happening any
> time you visit the app. The error log for "/" shows:
>
> "Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
> request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving
> cluster is under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this
> message frequently, please contact the App Engine team."
>
> This started after my app had been up and running for months, with no
> changes; worked the day before, then dead.
>
> Nothing in the system status shows what the cause may be or what (if
> anything) is being done about this.
>
> On May 5, 12:56 pm, bsb  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I also get the same error with cron jobs in another app of mine. This
> > has only started happening recently. Can someone @ Google please take
> > a look at this?
>
> > On May 5, 10:18 am, Benjamin Schuster-Böckler 
> > wrote:
>
> > > I'm getting loads of these. It's ok with the deferred tasks, as they are 
> > > rescheduled, but the cron jobs (to be run every 10min) just don't run if 
> > > this happens, causing unpredictable behaviour of my app. Effectually, the 
> > > cron only runs eery few hours, because most of the time, this error 
> > > occurs. What can I do to fix this? Do I really need to have a dummy task 
> > > to constantly hammer instances so the app stays loaded?
>
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Ben
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Index error -- vacuum error, too

[Pete]

I'm running the latest version of the SDK. Errors are still there as
of today.



On May 6, 10:31 am, Charlie  wrote:
> My problem has fixed itself this morning.
>
> One thing I discovered was that I was using an old version of the SDK
> (2 versions old) to run appcfg.py.
>
> This morning running the latest version of appcfg.py worked to vacuum
> and create new index I needed (well, new index is still building, but
> everything seems OK so far).
>
> So either the server sorted itself out over night or using the old
> command was the problem.
>
> On May 5, 10:18 pm, VladS  wrote:
>
> > I got the same problem.
> > My Indexes stuck in "Error" state and can't be deleted or removed
> > using Python SDK with the same error message.
>
> > Application Id: pyx4j-poc  and pyx4j-tester
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[google-appengine] Re: using GAE datastore as triple store

[Remo]

Hi Tim

thank you very much for the link, very interesting project! just too
bad that there is no backend for the app engine datastore available
yet...

you are absolutely right, the query/fetch restrictions will probably
cause problems for items with a very large number of triples. my goal
is to find a generic solution for this problem, because i just don't
want to add additional logic for this special case.

On May 5, 2:09 am, Tim Hoffman  wrote:
> Hi
>
> If you are interested in triplestores (quadstore), you might also want
> to have a look at python implementation rdflib (http://www.rdflib.net/)
> it is pretty simple to create backend store's for it (it already has
> backends for zodb, mysql, sqlite, in memory, etc).
> You will find you won't be able to use their sparql processor as its
> is built on 'c'.
>
> The main problems I see with triple stores will be querying.
> Appengine query/fetch restrictions will mean that a
> big graphs that are expensive may not be possible to retrieve. So what
> you can do with it will be very application dependant.
>
> T
>
> On May 4, 4:35 pm, Remo  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> > for my new project, i am thinking of using the datastore as kind of a
> > triple store (or tuple store). the idea is based on graphd, the tuple
> > store behind freebase (please 
> > seehttp://blog.freebase.com/2008/04/09/a-brief-tour-of-graphd/
> > for more info).
>
> > my simplified model would be something like this:
>
> > class Item(db.Model):
> >     name = db.StringProperty()
>
> > class Triple(db.Model):
> >     from_item = db.ReferenceProperty(Item,
> > collection_name='from_triples')
> >     type = db.ReferenceProperty(TripleType)
> >     to_item = db.ReferenceProperty(Item, collection_name='to_triples')
> >     value = db.StringProperty()
> >     prev_triple =
> > db.SelfReferenceProperty(collection_name='next_triple')
>
> > - a triple can either have a to_item or a value
> > - once written, triples are read-only (log-structured, append-only)
> > - to modify or delete a triple, a new triple is written with
> > prev_triple pointing to the previous triple
> > - the number of items at the beginning is small, but could grow up to
> > multiple millions
> > - most items have between 10 and 50 related (active) triples, but an
> > item should be able to scale up to 100'000 triples
>
> > i am thinking of putting an item with all related triples into the
> > same entity group, but are there any side effects or limitations when
> > using a large number of different entity groups?
>
> > the most frequent queries would be:
> > - show a single item with all related (active) triples
> > - show all items that have a active triple to another specific item or
> > with a specific value
>
> > do you have any experience or ideas/suggestions for implementing this
> > kind of triple store in GAE? how would you improve my model by
> > applying common optimization techniques like relation index entities?
>
> > thank you in advance for your feedback and please keep up the good
> > work!
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[google-appengine] Re: my apps just got 500 what happened?

[mkmanning]

Ditto for me (replied with more detail on this thread
http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/dc7f92884d5ecf5c#).

On May 5, 1:38 pm, Mark  wrote:
> it was working for the last couple days
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[google-appengine] Re: "Request was aborted after waiting too long"

[mkmanning]

One of my apps started getting this yesterday and the problem
continued all day, and is still there this a.m. This is happening any
time you visit the app. The error log for "/" shows:

"Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
request. This may happen sporadically when the App Engine serving
cluster is under unexpectedly high or uneven load. If you see this
message frequently, please contact the App Engine team."

This started after my app had been up and running for months, with no
changes; worked the day before, then dead.

Nothing in the system status shows what the cause may be or what (if
anything) is being done about this.

On May 5, 12:56 pm, bsb  wrote:
> I also get the same error with cron jobs in another app of mine. This
> has only started happening recently. Can someone @ Google please take
> a look at this?
>
> On May 5, 10:18 am, Benjamin Schuster-Böckler 
> wrote:
>
> > I'm getting loads of these. It's ok with the deferred tasks, as they are 
> > rescheduled, but the cron jobs (to be run every 10min) just don't run if 
> > this happens, causing unpredictable behaviour of my app. Effectually, the 
> > cron only runs eery few hours, because most of the time, this error occurs. 
> > What can I do to fix this? Do I really need to have a dummy task to 
> > constantly hammer instances so the app stays loaded?
>
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Ben
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Query with ancestor and JDO

[Jaroslav Záruba]

* ...yet we can't ask for or it nor for its children?

2010/5/6 Jaroslav Záruba 

> Thank you Timwhunt, this thread is among those I read, and if my
> understanding is right it also falls under "it can't be done" answers. Which
> sounds just weird: We know the path to the parent object yet we can't ask
> for or nor for its children?
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, timwhunt  wrote:
>
>> I posted a similar question in the GAE-Java group and got some
>> responses:
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java/browse_thread/thread/b07c62030e7bbcb8#
>>
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[google-appengine] Re: Index error -- vacuum error, too

[Charlie]

My problem has fixed itself this morning.

One thing I discovered was that I was using an old version of the SDK
(2 versions old) to run appcfg.py.

This morning running the latest version of appcfg.py worked to vacuum
and create new index I needed (well, new index is still building, but
everything seems OK so far).

So either the server sorted itself out over night or using the old
command was the problem.

On May 5, 10:18 pm, VladS  wrote:
> I got the same problem.
> My Indexes stuck in "Error" state and can't be deleted or removed
> using Python SDK with the same error message.
>
> Application Id: pyx4j-poc  and pyx4j-tester
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Query with ancestor and JDO

[Jaroslav Záruba]

Thank you Timwhunt, this thread is among those I read, and if my
understanding is right it also falls under "it can't be done" answers. Which
sounds just weird: We know the path to the parent object yet we can't ask
for or nor for its children?

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, timwhunt  wrote:

> I posted a similar question in the GAE-Java group and got some
> responses:
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java/browse_thread/thread/b07c62030e7bbcb8#
>
> I see you posted to that group too.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GPL but not 'open'

[Nick Johnson (Google)]

2010/5/6 Patrick Cornelißen 

> Hi!
>
> 2010/5/6 Geoffrey Spear :
> > That's actually an interesting case, because if you read the App
> > Engine terms, you actually do grant Google a license to your software;
> > they need one to reproduce the software throughout their cloud to run
> > it for you.  The GPL explictly allows you to do this however, as long
> > as you have an agreement with them explicitly forbidding them to make
> > copies of the portion of the work that's copyrighted outside of their
> > relationship with you, which is also part of the App Engine terms.
> > You *probably* are required by the GPL to provide to Google, if they
> > request it, a copy of any parts of the source that you didn't modify
> > yourself, although they're very unlikely to request that you do so
> > (and, at least with the Python runtime, you've already provided all of
> > your source anyway.)
> >
> > In any case, the GPL doesn't require that you provide source at all to
> > anyone to whom you're not distributing the software.
>
> I see your point and I think an official google statement here would be
> good.
>

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: ssl connection mutual authentication

[Nick Johnson (Google)]

Hi Steve,

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Steve favez  wrote:

> Hi Nick, here're some clarification.
>
> My google app need to access a web service with ssl certificate
> authentication. (https)
> As it's actually not supported and I can't change the security policy
> of the web service,
> the idea would be to install a secure data connector (http://
> code.google.com/securedataconnector/docs/1.0/config.html), and to
> configure it to allow access to ressources (url) for any authenticated
> user on my google app web application. Then you install a "web service
> proxy" behhind your firewall that will perform ssl mutual
> authentication (certificate and keystore are not required for each
> users, but only for the application to access the web service), and
> your google app only perform a simple web service call through http.
>
> Does it make sense ?
>

Yes, and if you need to do SSL authentication, this sounds like a sensible
thing to do.

-Nick Johnson


>
> Thanks
> Steve
>
>
>
> On May 6, 11:06 am, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Steve favez 
> wrote:
> > > Hi Nick,
> >
> > > thanks for the quick reply.
> >
> > > Do you plan to add this feature in a future release ?
> >
> > We don't have immediate plans to add client certificate validation for
> > incoming requests, or server certificate validation for outgoing ones,
> no.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Otherwise, what do you think to use secure data connector as a
> > > proxy. ??? ... (kind of workaround if I really need to call a web
> > > service requiring ssl mutual authentication.) ?
> >
> > I'm not sure how that would help - can you clarify what you're proposing?
> >
> > -Nick Johnson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > > - Steve Favez
> >
> > > On 5 mai, 18:23, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Steve,
> >
> > > > It's not possible to verify certificates using the URL Fetch service.
> >
> > > > -Nick Johnson
> >
> > > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Steve favez 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> >
> > > > > I'm trying to consume a web service (using URLFetchService) through
> > > > > https, requiring a mutual SSL authentication. (soap ws, using axis2
> > > > > with custom HTTP Transport layer, using URLConnection -
> > > > > URLFetchService)
> >
> > > > > Without HTTPS, everything works fine.
> >
> > > > > In my java google app, I've set the following properties in order
> to
> > > > > use my own keystore for SSL mutual authentication. :
> >
> > > > > > > value="jks"/>
> > > > > > > > > value="testdrive.jks"/>
> > > > > > > > > value="password"/>
> >
> > > > > I've got the following trace and exception :
> >
> > > > > INFO: I/O exception (java.net.SocketException) caught when
> processing
> > > > > request: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: Error constructing
> > > > > implementation (algorithm: Default, provider: SunJSSE, class:
> > > > > com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.DefaultSSLContextImpl)
> > > > > 4 mai 2010 08:46:21
> org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector
> > > > > executeWithRetry
> >
> > > > > Caused by: java.io.IOException: Could not fetch URL:
> > > > >https://pilot-vipservices-auth.verisign.com/prov/soap
> > > > >at
> >
> > >
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationExc
> > > eption(URLFetchServiceImpl.java:
> > > > > 106)
> > > > >at
> >
> > >
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchService
> > > Impl.java:
> > > > > 39)
> > > > >at
> >
> > >
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> > > > > $Connection.fetchResponse(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:404)
> > > > >at
> >
> > >
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> > > > > $Connection.getInputStream(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:283)
> >
> > > > > This error is happening on my eclipse env. with google app engine
> > > > > 1.3.3
> >
> > > > > Thanks in advance for any feedback
> >
> > > > > Steve
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GPL but not 'open'

[Patrick Cornelißen]

Hi!

2010/5/6 Geoffrey Spear :
> That's actually an interesting case, because if you read the App
> Engine terms, you actually do grant Google a license to your software;
> they need one to reproduce the software throughout their cloud to run
> it for you.  The GPL explictly allows you to do this however, as long
> as you have an agreement with them explicitly forbidding them to make
> copies of the portion of the work that's copyrighted outside of their
> relationship with you, which is also part of the App Engine terms.
> You *probably* are required by the GPL to provide to Google, if they
> request it, a copy of any parts of the source that you didn't modify
> yourself, although they're very unlikely to request that you do so
> (and, at least with the Python runtime, you've already provided all of
> your source anyway.)
>
> In any case, the GPL doesn't require that you provide source at all to
> anyone to whom you're not distributing the software.

I see your point and I think an official google statement here would be good.


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[google-appengine] Re: GPL but not 'open'

[Geoffrey Spear]

On May 6, 2:59 am, Patrick Cornelißen 
wrote:
> > IANAL, but it's plausible that if one were to upload GPL software to a
> > service provider, the provider would have a right to the source.  Then
> > you'd just need to convince the provider to share the source with
> > you.  Whether the App Engine crew would be willing and able to assist
> > in this way is an open question.  I wouldn't hold my breath, however.
>
> I doubt that, because it's your software that is running for you and
> not for the service provider.
> You have no contract with the service provider that grants him usage
> of the software you are running.
> It's the opposite in my opinion, which leads to the fact that the
> service provider can't be considered
> as "user" as the GPL means it.
>
> But again, IANAL...

That's actually an interesting case, because if you read the App
Engine terms, you actually do grant Google a license to your software;
they need one to reproduce the software throughout their cloud to run
it for you.  The GPL explictly allows you to do this however, as long
as you have an agreement with them explicitly forbidding them to make
copies of the portion of the work that's copyrighted outside of their
relationship with you, which is also part of the App Engine terms.
You *probably* are required by the GPL to provide to Google, if they
request it, a copy of any parts of the source that you didn't modify
yourself, although they're very unlikely to request that you do so
(and, at least with the Python runtime, you've already provided all of
your source anyway.)

In any case, the GPL doesn't require that you provide source at all to
anyone to whom you're not distributing the software.

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[google-appengine] Re: ssl connection mutual authentication

[Steve favez]

Hi Nick, here're some clarification.

My google app need to access a web service with ssl certificate
authentication. (https)
As it's actually not supported and I can't change the security policy
of the web service,
the idea would be to install a secure data connector (http://
code.google.com/securedataconnector/docs/1.0/config.html), and to
configure it to allow access to ressources (url) for any authenticated
user on my google app web application. Then you install a "web service
proxy" behhind your firewall that will perform ssl mutual
authentication (certificate and keystore are not required for each
users, but only for the application to access the web service), and
your google app only perform a simple web service call through http.

Does it make sense ?

Thanks
Steve



On May 6, 11:06 am, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Steve favez  wrote:
> > Hi Nick,
>
> > thanks for the quick reply.
>
> > Do you plan to add this feature in a future release ?
>
> We don't have immediate plans to add client certificate validation for
> incoming requests, or server certificate validation for outgoing ones, no.
>
>
>
> > Otherwise, what do you think to use secure data connector as a
> > proxy. ??? ... (kind of workaround if I really need to call a web
> > service requiring ssl mutual authentication.) ?
>
> I'm not sure how that would help - can you clarify what you're proposing?
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks
>
> > - Steve Favez
>
> > On 5 mai, 18:23, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Steve,
>
> > > It's not possible to verify certificates using the URL Fetch service.
>
> > > -Nick Johnson
>
> > > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Steve favez 
> > wrote:
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > I'm trying to consume a web service (using URLFetchService) through
> > > > https, requiring a mutual SSL authentication. (soap ws, using axis2
> > > > with custom HTTP Transport layer, using URLConnection -
> > > > URLFetchService)
>
> > > > Without HTTPS, everything works fine.
>
> > > > In my java google app, I've set the following properties in order to
> > > > use my own keystore for SSL mutual authentication. :
>
> > > > > value="jks"/>
> > > > > > > value="testdrive.jks"/>
> > > > > > > value="password"/>
>
> > > > I've got the following trace and exception :
>
> > > > INFO: I/O exception (java.net.SocketException) caught when processing
> > > > request: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: Error constructing
> > > > implementation (algorithm: Default, provider: SunJSSE, class:
> > > > com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.DefaultSSLContextImpl)
> > > > 4 mai 2010 08:46:21 org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector
> > > > executeWithRetry
>
> > > > Caused by: java.io.IOException: Could not fetch URL:
> > > >https://pilot-vipservices-auth.verisign.com/prov/soap
> > > >at
>
> > com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationExc
> > eption(URLFetchServiceImpl.java:
> > > > 106)
> > > >at
>
> > com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchService
> > Impl.java:
> > > > 39)
> > > >at
>
> > com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> > > > $Connection.fetchResponse(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:404)
> > > >at
>
> > com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> > > > $Connection.getInputStream(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:283)
>
> > > > This error is happening on my eclipse env. with google app engine
> > > > 1.3.3
>
> > > > Thanks in advance for any feedback
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Query with ancestor and JDO

[timwhunt]

I posted a similar question in the GAE-Java group and got some
responses:

http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java/browse_thread/thread/b07c62030e7bbcb8#

I see you posted to that group too.

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Re: [google-appengine] send_mail sender restrictions and Google Apps Premier

[Nick Johnson (Google)]

Hi Brandon,

Any email address your app can receive email on (eg, appspotmail addresses)
are also valid - could you use them as your sender addresses?

-Nick Johnson

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Brandon Bloom  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My app sends and receives mail on a variety of @mydomain addresses.
> These addresses are Google Apps user accounts, but after initial
> setup, all of their mail is forward to an appspotmail address and
> these users never login. I set it up this way due to GAE's send_mail
> sender restrictions [1].
>
> I am considering upgrading my Google Apps Standard account to Google
> Apps Premier. While there are only 2 actual human accounts, there are
> half a dozen dummy accounts to satisfy Google Apps. These accounts
> would cost me $50/year each if I were to upgrade. I have not yet tried
> making only a single dummy account with various aliases (nicknames?),
> but that would still cost me $50/year for the fake user account.
>
> I contacted the Google Apps sales team, but they said that they do not
> provide free or "standard" accounts on premier domains
> (understandably). They suggested that I contact the Google App Engine
> team to see if there a suggested workaround.
>
> Is there a workaround?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon Bloom
>
> [1] "The sender address can be either the email address of a
> registered administrator for the application, or the email address of
> the current signed-in user (the user making the request that is
> sending the message)."
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/sendingmail.html
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Re: [google-appengine] infiltrating probably not allowed email senders

[Nick Johnson (Google)]

Hi,

In order to add an address to your gmail account, you need to confirm it is
yours - so spammers still cannot use this to send an email from an account
they do not own.

A far simpler way to do this is to create a Google account for any valid
email address, at https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount

-Nick Johnson

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:44 PM, quodt  wrote:

> Today i noticed a strange behavior while trying to set a custom email
> address as sender. As far as i know a sender of an email can be the
> logged in user or any administrator of the application. Administrators
> of any Google AppEngine application must be either gmail adresses or
> valid email addresses of a google-apps domain (right?). ok so far.
> Since the email address i tried to send from is not an address of a
> google-apps domains i did a simple trick:
>
>  - I added a newly created gmail-address to the application and
> confirmed it. so the account was active for my application
>  - Then i added an alternative email address to that account (the
> address i try to sond from)
>  - Finally i removed the gmail service from the account so the
> previous alternative email address became the primary one
>
> What i've got was a naked google account with an email address of a
> foreign domain which has been approved as a valid administrator of my
> application.
>
> After that i tried to send mails with that infiltrated email address
> in the from-filed and it worked fine!
>
> Unfortunately, since i had this email address listed in my developers
> list of the application i was not able to confirm any further
> invitations.
>
> This seems to be a serious problem due to spam abuse.
>
> Regards, Bernd
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: ssl connection mutual authentication

[Nick Johnson (Google)]

Hi Steve,

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Steve favez  wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> thanks for the quick reply.
>
> Do you plan to add this feature in a future release ?
>

We don't have immediate plans to add client certificate validation for
incoming requests, or server certificate validation for outgoing ones, no.


>
> Otherwise, what do you think to use secure data connector as a
> proxy. ??? ... (kind of workaround if I really need to call a web
> service requiring ssl mutual authentication.) ?
>

I'm not sure how that would help - can you clarify what you're proposing?

-Nick Johnson


>
> Thanks
>
> - Steve Favez
>
> On 5 mai, 18:23, "Nick Johnson (Google)" 
> wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > It's not possible to verify certificates using the URL Fetch service.
> >
> > -Nick Johnson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Steve favez 
> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > I'm trying to consume a web service (using URLFetchService) through
> > > https, requiring a mutual SSL authentication. (soap ws, using axis2
> > > with custom HTTP Transport layer, using URLConnection -
> > > URLFetchService)
> >
> > > Without HTTPS, everything works fine.
> >
> > > In my java google app, I've set the following properties in order to
> > > use my own keystore for SSL mutual authentication. :
> >
> > > value="jks"/>
> > > > > value="testdrive.jks"/>
> > > > > value="password"/>
> >
> > > I've got the following trace and exception :
> >
> > > INFO: I/O exception (java.net.SocketException) caught when processing
> > > request: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: Error constructing
> > > implementation (algorithm: Default, provider: SunJSSE, class:
> > > com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.DefaultSSLContextImpl)
> > > 4 mai 2010 08:46:21 org.apache.commons.httpclient.HttpMethodDirector
> > > executeWithRetry
> >
> > > Caused by: java.io.IOException: Could not fetch URL:
> > >https://pilot-vipservices-auth.verisign.com/prov/soap
> > >at
> >
> > >
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationExc
> eption(URLFetchServiceImpl.java:
> > > 106)
> > >at
> >
> > >
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchService
> Impl.java:
> > > 39)
> > >at
> > >
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> > > $Connection.fetchResponse(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:404)
> > >at
> > >
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> > > $Connection.getInputStream(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:283)
> >
> > > This error is happening on my eclipse env. with google app engine
> > > 1.3.3
> >
> > > Thanks in advance for any feedback
> >
> > > Steve
> >
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: JSP File Uploading Issues on Google App Engine

[Ikai L (Google)]

You can use the form example for any kind of file. This just happens to use
Photos. There are no dependencies in the com.dateengine package - please
look over the code in detail.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:23 PM, deporter  wrote:

> Thank you very much.
>
> However it would be better to have scripts for any files, not just
> photos.
> And this code uses dataengine package which I is not available to me.
> I'm trying to make something working and consisting of simple JSP
> (HTML form part) and
> Servlet class.apache libraries are used.
>
> On 5 Mayıs, 15:34, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> > Here's some throwaway code I wrote a while ago:
> >
> > http://github.com/ikai/DateEngine/blob/master/src/com/dateengine/cont...
> >  .>
> > It uses Apache Commons File Upload.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:47 AM, deporter 
> wrote:
> > > Can anyone help me for constructing a simple JSP file upload page with
> > > related Servlet class. I have tried to find sources on the net but
> > > they were not complete or with errors.
> >
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Re: [google-appengine] Connect users to Google profiles

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There isn't a one step way, but you can use the GData client, ask your users
to grant you access, then use the Profiles API to retrieve this information.

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> Is there an automated or opt-in method to connect my logged-in users
> with their Google profiles? I would like to be able to discover, at
> least, the URL of their Google profile. It would be nice to have the
> URL of their avatar, too.
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[google-appengine] Patch

[beacon]

This patch fixes the above error.

--- google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/bulkloader.py   2010-04-23
18:33:09.0 +0100
+++ google_appengine_patched/google/appengine/tools/bulkloader.py
2010-05-05 12:56:10.0 +0100
@@ -3733,7 +3733,7 @@
 if arg_dict[command]:
   commands.append(command)
   if len(commands) > 1:
-errors.append('%s are mutually exclusive.', ' and
'.join(commands))
+errors.append('%s are mutually exclusive.' % ' and
'.join(commands))


   if errors:
@@ -3853,7 +3853,7 @@

   if db_filename == 'skip':
 progress_db = StubProgressDatabase()
-  elif not download and not perform_map and not dump:
+  elif not download and not perform_map and not dump and not
create_config:
 progress_db = ProgressDatabase(db_filename, signature)
   else:
 progress_db = ExportProgressDatabase(db_filename, signature)

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[google-appengine] infiltrating probably not allowed email senders

[quodt]

Today i noticed a strange behavior while trying to set a custom email
address as sender. As far as i know a sender of an email can be the
logged in user or any administrator of the application. Administrators
of any Google AppEngine application must be either gmail adresses or
valid email addresses of a google-apps domain (right?). ok so far.
Since the email address i tried to send from is not an address of a
google-apps domains i did a simple trick:

 - I added a newly created gmail-address to the application and
confirmed it. so the account was active for my application
 - Then i added an alternative email address to that account (the
address i try to sond from)
 - Finally i removed the gmail service from the account so the
previous alternative email address became the primary one

What i've got was a naked google account with an email address of a
foreign domain which has been approved as a valid administrator of my
application.

After that i tried to send mails with that infiltrated email address
in the from-filed and it worked fine!

Unfortunately, since i had this email address listed in my developers
list of the application i was not able to confirm any further
invitations.

This seems to be a serious problem due to spam abuse.

Regards, Bernd

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[google-appengine] Unable to create a new application under existing account

[kkotak]

Hello,

This has been asked a few hundred times and seems like the only way to
resolve the issue of creating additional application under a google
apps account is to start a new thread and get it resolved through one-
on-one help from google. So here it is.

My domain name is naumu and I am trying to create a new application
under https://appengine.google.com/a/naumu.com, which asks for my SMS
number which upon providing, says the number has been used too many
times.

Please help.

Thanks,

_Ketan
CEO Naumu Inc.

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[google-appengine] Re: Index error -- vacuum error, too

[Pete]

I'm experiencing the same issue. I only have a single index and it was
on a newly deployed app.

On a side note, This app used to be part of an old app and I moved it
out of its parent app and into its own app. So the index was working
fine before the move.

The app in question is cfgamegroup and it used to be part of
cfsandbox.

I did several things to try and resolve the problem:
-tried vacuuming the index
-tried creating a new app and recreating the index (got the same
issue, new app was cfedwardsvillegamegroup)
-tried changing the index (old one is still in error state, new one
also went into error state)
-tried changing the version of the app (though that seems to have no
effect on the datastore)
-tried modifying the name of the entity that was being indexed (new
index showed up... In error state)

None of those seemed to have any effect. Also, trying to do an update
to the indexes produces an error explaining that I need to vacuum
first.

Also, when deploying with a busted index it gives me a warning
suggesting i vacuum/update the index.

Thanks!


On May 5, 8:06 pm, Charlie  wrote:
> My app id is litl-developer-dev
>
> First I got an error because I was missing the index for a query.
>
> So, I added the index but that immediately caused an error and now the
> index is in the Error state.
>
> Trying to vacuum the index so I could perhaps recreate it, I also get
> an error:
>
> kind: forum_thread
> properties:
> - name: forum
> - direction: desc
>   name: latest_post_time
>
> Are you sure you want to delete this index? (N/y/a): y
> Deleting selected index definitions.
> Error 400: --- begin server output ---
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[google-appengine] Re: can't vacuum index

[Yao]

I am getting this same error too.
I can't vacuum the index either.

On May 6, 8:35 am, frogrod  wrote:
> i found this in the admin logs
>
> 2010-05-05 15:22:39     frog...@gmail.com  Delete failed; attempting to
> move 1 index(es) to Error       kinds=ww_wwunit
> 2010-05-05 15:22:39     frog...@gmail.com  Deleted 1 index(es)
> kinds=ww_wwunit
>
> On May 5, 3:18 pm, frogrod  wrote:
>
>
>
> > the dashboard
> > ww_wwunit
> > type_ ▲ , level ▲
> > Serving
> > type_ ▲ , level ▼
> > Serving
> > type_ ▲ , origin ▲ , level ▲
> > Error
>
> > this is what i got for output
>
> > appcfg.py vacuum_indexes BurningPickles
>
> > This index is no longer defined in your index.yaml file.
>
> > kind: ww_wwunit
> > properties:
> > - name: type_
> > - name: origin
> > - name: level
>
> > Are you sure you want to delete this index? (N/y/a):
>
> > On May 5, 3:04 pm, frogrod  wrote:
>
> > > i can't vacuum an index in error state i get
>
> > > Deleting a composite index failed: ApplicationError: 1
>
> > > appid: burningpickles
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[google-appengine] Re: Index error -- vacuum error, too

[VladS]

I got the same problem.
My Indexes stuck in "Error" state and can't be deleted or removed
using Python SDK with the same error message.

Application Id: pyx4j-poc  and pyx4j-tester

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[google-appengine] permanent issue: memcache .set() and .set_multi()

[Enetri.com]

Our application has an issue with memcache set operations over 20
hours now. Unfortunately, 100% of them are unsuccessful.
Seems that the problem is not related with today's planned scheduled
maintenance.

Application ID: "ua"
URL: http://uk.enetri.com

Can someone in GAE support team help to resolve this problem?!

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[google-appengine] my apps just got 500 what happened?

[Mark]

it was working for the last couple days

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[google-appengine] Re: can't vacuum index

[Yao]

I am getting this too.

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[google-appengine] Cannot update or vacuum indexes

[Ben]

I can neither update my indexes because all of them have a status of
"error", and if I remove all the items out of my index.yaml and try to
vacuum_indexes, nothing happens... I get a "Deleting a composite index
failed: ApplicationError: 1" when I try to vacuum.

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[google-appengine] Re: can't vacuum index

[frogrod]

does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? i have an index that
has been building for the past 5 hours and and 3 indexes in error for
the past 10.  Is this normal for a table that only has 150 rows?

On May 5, 4:35 pm, frogrod  wrote:
> i found this in the admin logs
>
> 2010-05-05 15:22:39     frog...@gmail.com  Delete failed; attempting to
> move 1 index(es) to Error       kinds=ww_wwunit
> 2010-05-05 15:22:39     frog...@gmail.com  Deleted 1 index(es)
> kinds=ww_wwunit
>
> On May 5, 3:18 pm, frogrod  wrote:
>
>
>
> > the dashboard
> > ww_wwunit
> > type_ ▲ , level ▲
> > Serving
> > type_ ▲ , level ▼
> > Serving
> > type_ ▲ , origin ▲ , level ▲
> > Error
>
> > this is what i got for output
>
> > appcfg.py vacuum_indexes BurningPickles
>
> > This index is no longer defined in your index.yaml file.
>
> > kind: ww_wwunit
> > properties:
> > - name: type_
> > - name: origin
> > - name: level
>
> > Are you sure you want to delete this index? (N/y/a):
>
> > On May 5, 3:04 pm, frogrod  wrote:
>
> > > i can't vacuum an index in error state i get
>
> > > Deleting a composite index failed: ApplicationError: 1
>
> > > appid: burningpickles
>
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