[google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-23 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Adam

Couldn't agree more with your sentiments.  In addition to working on
fairly significant
projects with appengine, I run our small business web site on
appengine as well (www.fishandlily.com.au).

It is really a headache free environment if you get everything
sorted.  We don't have to
worry about os upgrades. Server/hardware problems etc... My wife
manages the content (again
a small cms for us) and I occasionally make some tweaks to the code
base.

With agressive use of memcache, we almost never see any of the major
problems of
increased datastore latency.

Rgds

Tim

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-23 Thread Uberto Barbini
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Tim Hoffman  wrote:
> Hi
>
>> can you share some links to your application if this is not a problem?
>> Just to figure out how to improve ours.
>
>
> www.qtracker.com.au and www.polytechnic.wa.edu.au  are two of our
> apps.
> Having links to them won't help you in any way improve your
> application.

ahaha, never though of that. I just wanted to see which kind of application.

> I checked your profile and you don't appear to have been asking any
> questions.

Frankly we didn't have any particular problem with the platform.
Our application is blazing fast (once it started) and the console and
other tools are fantastic.
Only problem is the db or the application down. There are lots of
complains about that here as well, no point in adding another one.


Anyway I'm happy with the explanation Ikai wrote, we can wait for a
while, for sure in the last week we had no issues, and that is almost
a first.

cheers

Uberto

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.4.0 is out!

2010-11-23 Thread Viðar Svansson
Thank you for a great release!

Heavy frameworks like Spring MVC can be loaded really fast if you
serialize the context into cache/datastore. Unfortunately this is not
easy to do and I don't know if SpringSource is planning on making it
easier.

A blog post like that was bound to be published sooner than later.
What we need now is a counter post ;)

Cheers,
Viðar

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Ikai Lan (Google)
 wrote:
> Hey,
> A couple of questions were brought up in this thread. I'll do my best to
> answer them:
> - YES, task queues and cron jobs will now have a 10 minute limit, increased
> from 30 seconds. Note that you still want to favor lots of small, quick
> tasks when possible.
>
> - I need to verify the behavior, but the reason you will want to prefer
> shorter tasks is because these are scaled along with your user facing tasks
> = higher task throughput. Scaling of slow tasks works differently and you
> will ultimately receive lower throughput for those jobs, so you'll want to
> reserve those queues for work where you get a lot of payoff for 10 minute
> tasks but don't need the 50/qps per queue throughput of fast running tasks.
> - Yes, you will still have a 1mb limit upload limit.
> - App Instance startup still has a 30 second limit. We've explored what it
> would take to change this, but it's our understanding that even the heaviest
> of heavy frameworks (Spring MVC) can initialize in under 30 seconds. You'll
> still want to favor lazy initialization when possible. Again, we need to do
> more exploration here. The long term solution may be to increase the
> initialization deadline. Right now we're unsure of what'll happen if we do
> this, and we're unsure of whether this will be a healthy decision for the
> serving infrastructure overall.
> - The max deadline has not changed for URLFetch. There are lots of reasons
> to be optimistic, however. It's in our plans to remove limits where we can -
> and document the tradeoffs of doing so.
> I don't have an ETA (do I ever?) for the release, but as with previous
> releases, the go-live date is usually in the ballpark of weeks after the
> prerelease SDK is posted. Just keep in mind that 1.4.0 is a HUGE
> undertaking, so I'd leave a little more runway for when it'll go live. As
> usual, testing the prerelease SDK and giving us your feedback helps us ship
> it faster.
> Also - I saw the blog post. It's unfortunate, since the author of that post
> posted on the forums a few times and received a lot of help from both us and
> members of the community. I think it's easier to remember the negative. He
> sounded and still sounds like someone who knows what he is talking about, so
> if he couldn't find the documentation about limits, that means we can do a
> better job of surfacing them right after someone completes the "Guestbook"
> tutorial, because he's sure as heck not the only one who has/is/will be
> surprised by these limitations. I'll look more closely at his post and model
> either my own blog post or some official docs after it. I'll fiercely
> disagree with anyone that says App Engine is not a good platform for serious
> businesses or that Google doesn't invest in it. Of course we do: we launch
> stuff on App Engine all the time. There are small teams at Google just as
> there are large teams, and they come to App Engine for all the reasons you
> all do.
> Hope this helps. Keep posting feedback. I'm seeing only 100-200 downloads of
> the prerelease SDKs, which you can download here:
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list
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>
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:54 AM, DAndrea <321go.nullpoin...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Fantastic release!
>>
>> I wanted a clarification about URLFetch.
>> With a response size limit increased up to 32mb I also would expect a
>> new max deadline that seems not changed (10 seconds)
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Nov 18, 11:27 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
>> wrote:
>> > Hey everyone,
>> >
>> > I just wanted to let everyone know that prerelease SDK 1.4.0 is out! Get
>> > it
>> > from the Google Code project:
>> >
>> > http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list
>> >
>> > We're still working on the docs and will have them ready for the final
>> > release, so if there are any questions about how to use the new
>> > features,
>> > feel free to ask on this thread and I'll do my best to clarify them. The
>> > release notes are below. This is an EXCITING release:
>> >
>> > Python
>> > 
>> > - The Always On feature allows applications to pay and keep 3 instances
>> > of
>> > their
>> >   application always running, which can significantly reduce application
>> >   latency.
>> > - Developers can now enable Warmup Requests. By specifying  a handler in
>> > an
>> >   app's app.yaml, App Engine will attempt to to send 

Re: [google-appengine] Can't update my billing settings

2010-11-23 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
Thank Robert,

I will do that.

Sahid.
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Robert Kluin  wrote:
> Have you tried submitting a billing help request?
>  http://code.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=AppEngineBillingSupport
>
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:46, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Since about 3 weeks i can't update my billing settings; I have this message:
>>
>> Billing Status: Activating Billing
>> Billing will be enabled as soon as the new billing administrator's credit
>> card has been authorized and quotas have been adjusted.
>>
>> it's a problem for me because i need to update my settings, i have a lot of
>> quota Denials.
>> APPID: devel-inchallah
>> Thanks
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-23 Thread Martin Webb
All that GAE needs is someone in these forums to build, launch and run the next 
killa app like twitter. Once that happens people will take the platform more 
than seriously as the app will scale to millions trouble free overnight - 
sending out big signals to developers that app engine is a serious, well honed 
platform for building scalable apps. Lets hope that day comes soon, as when it 
does im sure once the limelight is on - things can only get better.
Im sure someone somewhere is hard to work on just that.


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From: Tim Hoffman 
To: Google App Engine 
Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 8:11:35
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

Hi Adam

Couldn't agree more with your sentiments.  In addition to working on
fairly significant
projects with appengine, I run our small business web site on
appengine as well (www.fishandlily.com.au).

It is really a headache free environment if you get everything
sorted.  We don't have to
worry about os upgrades. Server/hardware problems etc... My wife
manages the content (again
a small cms for us) and I occasionally make some tweaks to the code
base.

With agressive use of memcache, we almost never see any of the major
problems of
increased datastore latency.

Rgds

Tim

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[google-appengine] Policy for instance startup

2010-11-23 Thread Tomas Alaeus
I'm curious when exactly instances are started. I have two
applications running on GAE, one of them have billing enabled. The one
with billing enabled have been stress tested and have at most started
100 simultaneous instances. The other is just for testing and staging
purposes and have never handeled much traffic.

What I experience is that the staging server never starts more
instances than needed. If a single person views pages it will never
load more than a single instance. The other one however seems to start
about 5 instances before anyone can get hot responses, and it will
continue to start up to about 10 before realizing that ~1 QPS isn't
that much traffic (the requests finish in about 100ms each).

So, why does GAE boot up lots of instances even though 1 instance can
serve the incoming traffic without a problem (the requests doesn't
even overlap, so no waiting is needed)?

I realize that this isn't a very big issue, since when it gets lots of
traffic it will indeed need all the instances. I'm just curious why it
happens.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-23 Thread Wim den Ouden
Gae is just a subtitle, it is based on the google api's written in c,
c++, python and the datastore containers all over the world. This
distributed computing, programming model (based on open standards) is
allready one off, or the largest network on the moment.
gr
wim

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Martin Webb  wrote:
> All that GAE needs is someone in these forums to build, launch and run the
> next killa app like twitter. Once that happens people will take the platform
> more than seriously as the app will scale to millions trouble free overnight
> - sending out big signals to developers that app engine is a serious, well
> honed platform for building scalable apps. Lets hope that day comes soon, as
> when it does im sure once the limelight is on - things can only get better.
> Im sure someone somewhere is hard to work on just that.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> Martin Webb
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> From: Tim Hoffman 
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> Sent: Tue, 23 November, 2010 8:11:35
> Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!
>
> Hi Adam
>
> Couldn't agree more with your sentiments.  In addition to working on
> fairly significant
> projects with appengine, I run our small business web site on
> appengine as well (www.fishandlily.com.au).
>
> It is really a headache free environment if you get everything
> sorted.  We don't have to
> worry about os upgrades. Server/hardware problems etc... My wife
> manages the content (again
> a small cms for us) and I occasionally make some tweaks to the code
> base.
>
> With agressive use of memcache, we almost never see any of the major
> problems of
> increased datastore latency.
>
> Rgds
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Google Docs blocking GAE apps? (503 lockout: automated queries)

2010-11-23 Thread Jan Zawadzki
neither - this is 2LO.

Actually, it's both 2LO and client login.  Same error, same timeframe

Went away after about four hours, but became an extremely serious problem as
it affected a number of our apps (possibly all?)

I am loading more records later tonight, will let you know if it reappears.

Bit of a show-stopper for our schools kicking off with Google Apps
unfortunately :(

Cheers

Jan


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Ikai Lan (Google) <
ikai.l+gro...@google.com > wrote:

> I've seen this happen before with Client Login. Are you using that or
> Authsub?
>
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>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Jan Z/ Hapara 
> wrote:
> > Google Docs doclist API appears to be locking out GAE client apps with a
> 503
> > error complaining of automated queries:
> >
> > Server responded with: 503,  > content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/>Sorry... body {
> > font-family: verdana, arial, sans-serif; background-color: #fff; color:
> > #000; } > color=#0039b6 size=10>G > size=10>oo > face=times color=#0039b6 size=10>g > size=10>l size=10>e > style="text-align: left; vertical-align: bottom; padding-bottom: 15px;
> > width: 50%">Sorry...We're sorry.. but your computer or network may be
> > sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your
> > request right now.See  > href="http://www.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86640";>Google
> > Help for more information.© 2009 Google -  > href="http://www.google.com";>Google Home
> >
> > We've seen this now for about 4 hours, across a range of apps.  Is Docs
> > trying to rate-limit GAE??
> > Would be great is someone from the GAE team could ping the Docs folks
> > please...
> > Thanks!
> > J
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[google-appengine] Re: Company website running on GAE is ... gone?

2010-11-23 Thread dflorey
Very strange. It is back!
There have been no 500ers in the logs, just timeouts.

Daniel

On 22 Nov., 21:01, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
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> I see the application. Did you see a 404, 500, or just a timeout?
>
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>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM, dflorey  wrote:
> > Our website is running on GAE and worked fine. But now it is gone :-(
> > No idea what's going on... is it because I'm not in Germany this week?
> > Can someone please check if
> >http://www.floreysoft.net
> > gives just a blank page?
>
> > Every request in the logs gives:
> > This request caused a new process to be started for your application,
> > and thus caused your application code to be loaded for the first time.
> > This request may thus take longer and use more CPU than a typical
> > request for your application.
>
> > Thanks for your help,
>
> > Daniel
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[google-appengine] App is cut several times a day

2010-11-23 Thread sahid
Hello,

Please see this chart: http://i.imgur.com/9CAnF.png (All of my users
are connected in a third part server (COMET))

My app is cut several times a day and i don't know why... I use
appstats and all of my requests are OK... in general i use less than
10 RPC by request.
my average latency is in about 120ms and in general i have less than 1
error for 100reqs.

I have several type of errors: DeadLineException, Timeout, and
"Community error (not logged)";

- The DeadLineException are directly in rapport with the "System
Status".
- The timeout error are launched from time to time with a big number
of errors during a small time (in rapport with my reqs/s)
- The "Community error" comes from time to time and the result is my
app is down...

Seriously i think the problem comes form GAE; Ok ...for "Time out and
DeadLineException" but the "Community Error" down my app
and that is terrible.

So please, you can investigate my app? appstats is launched if a
google engeneer want my identifiant i can give it.
I need to know if the problem comes from GAE or not because i can
wait... but i need to know.

APPID: devel-inchallah

Thanks a lots,
Sahid

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[google-appengine] Re: Memcache/JCache across my application

2010-11-23 Thread Simon
You are going to get a JCache instance for every GAE JVM-instance
which is spun up and there's no guarantee (in fact in my experience
it's pretty unlikely) that your GAE-instance will even be up for 2
hours.  It's worth remembering that you can have multiple GAE-
instances running at the same time and take that into consideration
for your app's design - you have no idea what instance your cron job
will run on, but it will only ever work against one of your instances.

On Nov 22, 12:40 am, Joerg Weingarten  wrote:
> I am using Memcache/JCache to add certain Strings to the Cache.
> Somehow I thought there would be only 1 instance of my cache that is
> shared across my application. To refresh my cache I have a cron job
> that is supposed to do the refresh, if needed. What I am seeing though
> is that the cache gets always refreshed. What am I missing?
>
> Sample code:
>
>                 Cache cache = null;
>                 try {
>                 cache = CacheManager.getInstance().getCache("TIPCache");
>                 if (cache == null) {
>                                 CacheFactory cacheFactory =
> CacheManager.getInstance().getCacheFactory();
>                                 cache = 
> cacheFactory.createCache(Collections.emptyMap());
>                                 
> CacheManager.getInstance().registerCache("TIPCache", cache);
>                         }
>                         if (!cache.containsKey("somekey")) {
>                            cache.put("somekey", "some string");
>                            log.info("Cache updated");
>                         }
>                         else {
>                            log.info("Cache up to date");
>                         }
>                 } catch (CacheException e) {
>                         log.severe("Could not create CACHE instances!");
>                 }
>
> Code like the above is running every 2 hours using a cron job. I would
> expect to see the message "Cache up to date", but I see "Cache
> updated" every 2 hours.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
> Thx
> ---Joerg---

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[google-appengine] Re: Memcache/JCache across my application

2010-11-23 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi

In addition google recycles instances around every 10,000 requests.

Rgds

T

On Nov 23, 7:11 pm, Simon  wrote:
> You are going to get a JCache instance for every GAE JVM-instance
> which is spun up and there's no guarantee (in fact in my experience
> it's pretty unlikely) that your GAE-instance will even be up for 2
> hours.  It's worth remembering that you can have multiple GAE-
> instances running at the same time and take that into consideration
> for your app's design - you have no idea what instance your cron job
> will run on, but it will only ever work against one of your instances.
>
> On Nov 22, 12:40 am, Joerg Weingarten  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I am using Memcache/JCache to add certain Strings to the Cache.
> > Somehow I thought there would be only 1 instance of my cache that is
> > shared across my application. To refresh my cache I have a cron job
> > that is supposed to do the refresh, if needed. What I am seeing though
> > is that the cache gets always refreshed. What am I missing?
>
> > Sample code:
>
> >                 Cache cache = null;
> >                 try {
> >                 cache = CacheManager.getInstance().getCache("TIPCache");
> >                 if (cache == null) {
> >                                 CacheFactory cacheFactory =
> > CacheManager.getInstance().getCacheFactory();
> >                                 cache = 
> > cacheFactory.createCache(Collections.emptyMap());
> >                                 
> > CacheManager.getInstance().registerCache("TIPCache", cache);
> >                         }
> >                         if (!cache.containsKey("somekey")) {
> >                            cache.put("somekey", "some string");
> >                            log.info("Cache updated");
> >                         }
> >                         else {
> >                            log.info("Cache up to date");
> >                         }
> >                 } catch (CacheException e) {
> >                         log.severe("Could not create CACHE instances!");
> >                 }
>
> > Code like the above is running every 2 hours using a cron job. I would
> > expect to see the message "Cache up to date", but I see "Cache
> > updated" every 2 hours.
>
> > What am I doing wrong?
> > Thx
> > ---Joerg---

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Administrator with Google Apps account

2010-11-23 Thread Brian Davenport
To do this all you have to do is make that user account in your domain then
set it up as a app admin so you can send as that user.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 02:44, jd  wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone can send email from their Google Apps domain?
> i.e. website at www.example.com and send email from
> exam...@example.com
>
> Is this a known problem?

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Re: [google-appengine] query order and name attribute (patch)

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Petrov
Hey Robert, thanks very much for tracking and fixing this (I'm the one who
reported the second issue).

Dear Googlers, _please_ finally notice this and fix it. Named properties are
nearly useless anyway, even without this bug (because the name attribute is
not transparent as it should be, you still need to modify your queries).

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Robert Kluin wrote:

> You can't order by a property with a name attribute.  See bugs 3228
> and 3693 for details.
>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3228
>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3693
>
> Looks like Query.order checks that the property name is in the
> model.properties().  properties() returns the full names, not the
> short names so this does not work.  Query.filter() does not perform
> this test.  Is there any way we could get this patch (or a better fix)
> applied for the 1.4 release?
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> --- google/appengine/ext/db/__init__.py.busted  2010-11-18
> 13:44:32.0 -0500
> +++ google/appengine/ext/db/__init__.py 2010-11-23 00:31:23.0 -0500
> @@ -2225,8 +2225,7 @@
> datastore_types._KEY_SPECIAL_PROPERTY)
> else:
>   if not issubclass(self._model_class, Expando):
> -if (property not in self._model_class.properties() and
> -property not in datastore_types._SPECIAL_PROPERTIES):
> +if property in datastore_types._SPECIAL_PROPERTIES:
>   raise PropertyError('Invalid property name \'%s\'' % property)
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[google-appengine] Is there anyway to locally test a GAE + Facebook?

2010-11-23 Thread nacho
This is more a facebook apps question, but i would like if some gae
developers have experience doing this.

I need to develop a Facebook app, and i want to do my back in gae and
my front in gwt. Easy task.

My question is this: how can i locally test my fb app?

My app must run on Facebook app's canvas (ie: iframe). So i created a
new app, put a app_id and in the canvas url the following:
http://127.0.0.1/MyApp.html

But when i go to apps.facebook.com/myapp i get a blank page. I think
that i can't test locally, so i have to deploy to appengine and put my
appengine url in the facebook canvas url. But every deploy takes me
4 / 8 minutes :(

Is there any way to locally test my fb app using gae?

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Re: [google-appengine] Is it possible to download your own GAE project.I lost my laptop

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Also, in the future, try using something like bitbucket or github.
That way you'll have version control and an "off-laptop" backup.



Robert







2010/11/23 acellam guy :
> thanks!!
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:34 AM, 风笑雪  wrote:
>>
>> I don't know, but SDK 1.4.0 prerelease has been out.
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM, acellam guy 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> when will the SDK 1.4.0 be out
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, 风笑雪  wrote:

 Currently not, but you can wait for SDK 1.4.0.

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> Hi,
> Is it possible to checkout??
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Re: [google-appengine] query order and name attribute (patch)

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Kluin
I agree.  Named properties are messy, it is not always clear which
"name" (short or long) should be used.  Also, just as a note, if you
make your model and exando you can use the short name in the order.


Robert






On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:51, Peter Petrov  wrote:
> Hey Robert, thanks very much for tracking and fixing this (I'm the one who
> reported the second issue).
> Dear Googlers, _please_ finally notice this and fix it. Named properties are
> nearly useless anyway, even without this bug (because the name attribute is
> not transparent as it should be, you still need to modify your queries).
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Robert Kluin 
> wrote:
>>
>> You can't order by a property with a name attribute.  See bugs 3228
>> and 3693 for details.
>>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3228
>>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3693
>>
>> Looks like Query.order checks that the property name is in the
>> model.properties().  properties() returns the full names, not the
>> short names so this does not work.  Query.filter() does not perform
>> this test.  Is there any way we could get this patch (or a better fix)
>> applied for the 1.4 release?
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- google/appengine/ext/db/__init__.py.busted  2010-11-18
>> 13:44:32.0 -0500
>> +++ google/appengine/ext/db/__init__.py 2010-11-23 00:31:23.0
>> -0500
>> @@ -2225,8 +2225,7 @@
>>             datastore_types._KEY_SPECIAL_PROPERTY)
>>     else:
>>       if not issubclass(self._model_class, Expando):
>> -        if (property not in self._model_class.properties() and
>> -            property not in datastore_types._SPECIAL_PROPERTIES):
>> +        if property in datastore_types._SPECIAL_PROPERTIES:
>>           raise PropertyError('Invalid property name \'%s\'' % property)
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[google-appengine] GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
app id: ninuku-archivist

I'm used to having some of these 500 responses but now that is all my
customers are getting!
 Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
request

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[google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
Also my task queues are backed up with a thousand backlogged, 50 executed in
the minute, and Retries pushing 100.


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> app id: ninuku-archivist
>
> I'm used to having some of these 500 responses but now that is all my
> customers are getting!
>  Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
> request
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[google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
Lastly when something does execute, it is throwing catch
(java.lang.RuntimeException with null message.

Basically my site is DOWN!!!


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:36 AM, A. Stevko  wrote:

> Also my task queues are backed up with a thousand backlogged, 50 executed
> in the minute, and Retries pushing 100.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM, A. Stevko  wrote:
>
>> app id: ninuku-archivist
>>
>> I'm used to having some of these 500 responses but now that is all my
>> customers are getting!
>>   Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
>> request
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Is there anyway to locally test a GAE + Facebook?

2010-11-23 Thread Chris Copeland
You need a publicly accessible IP that Facebook's servers can hit to load
the contents of your canvas page.  (127.0.0.1 is a special loopback address
that is only valid on your computer.)

I suggest using a service like DynDNS to register a host name like
myapp.homeip.net and then use their tools to automatically update DNS
records with your current IP as it changes (assuming you don't have a
static, public IP for your dev machine).  Then update your Facebook app
settings to point to this host name.

If you are behind a firewall/NAT you will need to make a hole in that and/or
configure port forwarding.

When you start your local server you will need to bind it to your LAN
address instead of loopback.  Eg. "-a 192.168.1.1"

I have also found it useful to create two separate Facebook apps.  One for
testing where it points to your dev machine and one for production that
points to Google.

-Chris

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:09 AM, nacho  wrote:

> This is more a facebook apps question, but i would like if some gae
> developers have experience doing this.
>
> I need to develop a Facebook app, and i want to do my back in gae and
> my front in gwt. Easy task.
>
> My question is this: how can i locally test my fb app?
>
> My app must run on Facebook app's canvas (ie: iframe). So i created a
> new app, put a app_id and in the canvas url the following:
> http://127.0.0.1/MyApp.html
>
> But when i go to apps.facebook.com/myapp i get a blank page. I think
> that i can't test locally, so i have to deploy to appengine and put my
> appengine url in the facebook canvas url. But every deploy takes me
> 4 / 8 minutes :(
>
> Is there any way to locally test my fb app using gae?
>
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[google-appengine] setting up www mapping help.

2010-11-23 Thread Ning Hu
Hi All,

I'm encountering a prlbme when trying to setup www to redirect to my
domain.
Currently trying to do it under the google apps dashboard.

When I try to add the www mapping, it gives an error that says:
"Already used, please remove previous mapping first "

But the question is, how to I remove the previous mapping?  It does
not show up in the current mapping list.

All other subdomain mappings show up in this view, and seem to be
working correctly.

Do I need to tinker with eNom's zone file manually?  (I've purchased
the domain name through the app engine website)

Is there a guide on how to setup eNom's zone files to allow naked
domain and www to redirect to ppmesh.appspot.com?

Any help is much appreciated,

Thanks,
Ning

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[google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.4.0 is out!

2010-11-23 Thread Constantine Vetoshev
Ikai,

Now that the Channels API is open to everyone, do you know when we
might see some documentation for it? Just the javadocs would do for
now.

Thanks,
CV

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[google-appengine] PyDev on Eclipse

2010-11-23 Thread Katyayani Bhatia
Hello everyone,

I am trying to install PyDev on Eclipse, but the URL
http://pydev.sourceforge.net/updates/ is facing some problems.

Could you please suggest some alternate site for the same.

Thanks.

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[google-appengine] Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?

2010-11-23 Thread vamsi
Hi all ,
Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?

Regards

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[google-appengine] PyDev on Eclipse

2010-11-23 Thread Katyayani Bhatia
Hello everyone,

I am trying to install PyDev on Eclipse, but the URL
http://pydev.sourceforge.net/updates/ is facing some problems.

Could you please suggest some alternate site for the same.

Thanks.

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[google-appengine] Cannot deploy my app to the GAE

2010-11-23 Thread Sumanth AS
Hi, i ve created a simple hello world application and have also got an
app id registered. but i am unable to deploy the app to the server. i
m getting an exception which is java.net.ConnectException. plz help me
out. thanks in advance

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[google-appengine] Doing XMPP query to figure out features supported by Google Talk client and getting confusing results!! Why?

2010-11-23 Thread Ektar
I send IQ like that to Gogole Talk client


  http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info"/>


but response is


http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info";>

http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#info"/>
http://jabber.org/protocol/disco#items"/>




But trying to query legitimate Google talk client! What I'm doing
wrong?!
The same if contact logged under browser with video supported, what
I'm looking for is:










Because I know that I have Google talk Web Plugin which supports all
that!?

Help please.

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[google-appengine] Re: PyDev on Eclipse

2010-11-23 Thread John McLaughlin
My update URL points to: http://pydev.org/updates

On Nov 22, 11:40 pm, Katyayani Bhatia  wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am trying to install PyDev on Eclipse, but the 
> URLhttp://pydev.sourceforge.net/updates/is facing some problems.
>
> Could you please suggest some alternate site for the same.
>
> Thanks.

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Re: [google-appengine] PyDev on Eclipse

2010-11-23 Thread Rafael Nunes

Did you try to download the Aptana Studio 3?

On 11/23/2010 05:40 AM, Katyayani Bhatia wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am trying to install PyDev on Eclipse, but the URL 
http://pydev.sourceforge.net/updates/ is facing some problems.


Could you please suggest some alternate site for the same.

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Re: [google-appengine] Prerelease SDK 1.4.0 is out!

2010-11-23 Thread Sandeep Koduri
Hello ikai,

Thanks and congrats for the great release.

Will there be an option for source code download control in app.yaml.
according to the mail thread in pre-release of 1.3.8 we thought this will be
implemented, and that would be very helpful.

the feature announced now will be a very good add-on but, by default if the
config is to be on app.yaml.
Will there be any option for the creator of the app to get any versions
source code.

We have some use cases relying on this option. so please make a reply about
this, accordingly we can streamline the development process at our team,

Thanks


On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Ikai Lan (Google)

> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I just wanted to let everyone know that prerelease SDK 1.4.0 is out! Get it
> from the Google Code project:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list
>
> We're still working on the docs and will have them ready for the final
> release, so if there are any questions about how to use the new features,
> feel free to ask on this thread and I'll do my best to clarify them. The
> release notes are below. This is an EXCITING release:
>
> Python
> 
> - The Always On feature allows applications to pay and keep 3 instances of
> their
>   application always running, which can significantly reduce application
>   latency.
> - Developers can now enable Warmup Requests. By specifying  a handler in an
>   app's app.yaml, App Engine will attempt to to send a Warmup Request to
>   initialize new instances before a user interacts with it. This can reduce
> the
>   latency an end-user sees for initializing your application.
> - The Channel API is now available for all users.
> - Task Queue has been officially released, and is no longer an experimental
>   feature. The API import paths that use 'labs' have been deprecated. Task
> queue
>   storage will count towards an application's overall storage quota, and
> will
>   thus be charged for.
> - The deadline for Task Queue and Cron requests has been raised to 10
> minutes.
>   Datastore and API deadlines within those requests remain unchanged.
> - For the Task Queue, developers can specify task retry_parameters in their
>   queue.yaml.
> - Metadata Queries on the datastore for datastore kinds, namespaces, and
> entity
>   properties are available.
> - URLFetch allowed response size has been increased, up to 32 MB. Request
> size
>   is still limited to 1 MB.
> - The Admin Console Blacklist page lists the top blacklist rejected
> visitors.
> - The automatic image thumbnailing service supports arbitrary crop sizes up
> to
>   1600px.
> - Overall average instance latency in the Admin Console is now a weighted
>   average over QPS per instance.
> - The developer who uploaded an app version can download that version's
> code
>   using the appcfg.py download_app command. This feature can be disabled on
>   a per application basis in the admin console, under the 'Permissions'
> tab.
>   Once disabled, code download for the application CANNOT be re-enabled.
> - Fixed an issue where custom Admin Console pages did not work for Google
>   Apps for your Domain users.
> - Allow Django initialization to be moved to appengine_config.py to avoid
>   Django version conflicts when mixing webapp.template with pure Django.
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1758
> - Fixed an issue in the dev_appserver where get_serving_url did not work
>   for transparent, cropped PNGs:
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3887
> - Fixed an issue with the DatastoreFileStub.
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3895
>
>
> Java
> -
> - The Always On feature allows applications to pay and keep 3 instances of
> their
>   application always running, which can significantly reduce application
>   latency.
> - Developers can now enable Warmup Requests. By specifying  a handler in an
>   app's appengine-web.xml, App Engine will attempt to to send a Warmup
> Request
>   to initialize new instances before a user interacts with it. This can
> reduce
>   the latency an end-user sees for initializing your application.
> - The Channel API is now available for all users.
> - Task Queue has been officially released, and is no longer an experimental
>   feature. The API import paths that use 'labs' have been deprecated. Task
> queue
>   storage will count towards an application's overall storage quota, and
> will
>   thus be charged for.
> - The deadline for Task Queue and Cron requests has been raised to 10
> minutes.
>   Datastore and API deadlines within those requests remain unchanged.
> - For the Task Queue, developers can specify task retry-parameters in their
>   queue.xml.
> - Metadata Queries on the datastore for datastore kinds, namespaces, and
> entity
>   properties are available.
> - URL Fetch allowed response size has been increased, up to 32 MB. Request
> size
>   is still limited to 1 MB.
> - The Admin Console Blacklist page 

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!

2010-11-23 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Martin,

This has already happened =). There are folks here in these groups who have
built very successful businesses on App Engine. You just don't hear about
them because they're not hyped in the tech blogs.

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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Martin Webb  wrote:

> All that GAE needs is someone in these forums to build, launch and run the
> next killa app like twitter. Once that happens people will take the platform
> more than seriously as the app will scale to millions trouble free overnight
> - sending out big signals to developers that app engine is a serious, well
> honed platform for building scalable apps. Lets hope that day comes soon, as
> when it does im sure once the limelight is on - things can only get better.
> Im sure someone somewhere is hard to work on just that.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> *Martin Webb*
> **
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> *From:* Tim Hoffman 
> *To:* Google App Engine 
> *Sent:* Tue, 23 November, 2010 8:11:35
> *Subject:* [google-appengine] Re: Let's defend GAE!
>
> Hi Adam
>
> Couldn't agree more with your sentiments.  In addition to working on
> fairly significant
> projects with appengine, I run our small business web site on
> appengine as well (www.fishandlily.com.au).
>
> It is really a headache free environment if you get everything
> sorted.  We don't have to
> worry about os upgrades. Server/hardware problems etc... My wife
> manages the content (again
> a small cms for us) and I occasionally make some tweaks to the code
> base.
>
> With agressive use of memcache, we almost never see any of the major
> problems of
> increased datastore latency.
>
> Rgds
>
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[google-appengine] app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread sandeep Koduri
Hello,

this is the link my apps dashboard
https://appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere

this is showing up
 an error page most of the time

Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete
your request.

If the problem persists, please
report your
problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.

even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
how can we resolve this issue..

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Re: [google-appengine] Prerelease SDK 1.4.0 is out!

2010-11-23 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
You'll be able to download code, but anyone that wants to turn it off will
be able to go to their admin dashboard and push a one-way, irreversible
button to disallow this feature.

Please do not depend on this feature to do source control.

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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Sandeep Koduri
wrote:

> Hello ikai,
>
> Thanks and congrats for the great release.
>
> Will there be an option for source code download control in app.yaml.
> according to the mail thread in pre-release of 1.3.8 we thought this will
> be implemented, and that would be very helpful.
>
> the feature announced now will be a very good add-on but, by default if the
> config is to be on app.yaml.
> Will there be any option for the creator of the app to get any versions
> source code.
>
> We have some use cases relying on this option. so please make a reply about
> this, accordingly we can streamline the development process at our team,
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Ikai Lan (Google) <
> ikai.l+gro...@google.com > wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I just wanted to let everyone know that prerelease SDK 1.4.0 is out! Get
>> it from the Google Code project:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list
>>
>> We're still working on the docs and will have them ready for the final
>> release, so if there are any questions about how to use the new features,
>> feel free to ask on this thread and I'll do my best to clarify them. The
>> release notes are below. This is an EXCITING release:
>>
>> Python
>> 
>> - The Always On feature allows applications to pay and keep 3 instances of
>> their
>>   application always running, which can significantly reduce application
>>   latency.
>> - Developers can now enable Warmup Requests. By specifying  a handler in
>> an
>>   app's app.yaml, App Engine will attempt to to send a Warmup Request to
>>   initialize new instances before a user interacts with it. This can
>> reduce the
>>   latency an end-user sees for initializing your application.
>> - The Channel API is now available for all users.
>> - Task Queue has been officially released, and is no longer an
>> experimental
>>   feature. The API import paths that use 'labs' have been deprecated. Task
>> queue
>>   storage will count towards an application's overall storage quota, and
>> will
>>   thus be charged for.
>> - The deadline for Task Queue and Cron requests has been raised to 10
>> minutes.
>>   Datastore and API deadlines within those requests remain unchanged.
>> - For the Task Queue, developers can specify task retry_parameters in
>> their
>>   queue.yaml.
>> - Metadata Queries on the datastore for datastore kinds, namespaces, and
>> entity
>>   properties are available.
>> - URLFetch allowed response size has been increased, up to 32 MB. Request
>> size
>>   is still limited to 1 MB.
>> - The Admin Console Blacklist page lists the top blacklist rejected
>> visitors.
>> - The automatic image thumbnailing service supports arbitrary crop sizes
>> up to
>>   1600px.
>> - Overall average instance latency in the Admin Console is now a weighted
>>   average over QPS per instance.
>> - The developer who uploaded an app version can download that version's
>> code
>>   using the appcfg.py download_app command. This feature can be disabled
>> on
>>   a per application basis in the admin console, under the 'Permissions'
>> tab.
>>   Once disabled, code download for the application CANNOT be re-enabled.
>> - Fixed an issue where custom Admin Console pages did not work for Google
>>   Apps for your Domain users.
>> - Allow Django initialization to be moved to appengine_config.py to avoid
>>   Django version conflicts when mixing webapp.template with pure Django.
>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1758
>> - Fixed an issue in the dev_appserver where get_serving_url did not work
>>   for transparent, cropped PNGs:
>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3887
>> - Fixed an issue with the DatastoreFileStub.
>> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3895
>>
>>
>> Java
>> -
>> - The Always On feature allows applications to pay and keep 3 instances of
>> their
>>   application always running, which can significantly reduce application
>>   latency.
>> - Developers can now enable Warmup Requests. By specifying  a handler in
>> an
>>   app's appengine-web.xml, App Engine will attempt to to send a Warmup
>> Request
>>   to initialize new instances before a user interacts with it. This can
>> reduce
>>   the latency an end-user sees for initializing your application.
>> - The Channel API is now available for all users.
>> - Task Queue has been officially released, and is no longer an
>> experimental
>>   feature. The API import paths that use 'labs' have bee

[google-appengine] Re: setting up www mapping help.

2010-11-23 Thread Stephen


On Nov 23, 2:22 am, Ning Hu  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm encountering a prlbme when trying to setup www to redirect to my
> domain.
> Currently trying to do it under the google apps dashboard.
>
> When I try to add the www mapping, it gives an error that says:
> "Already used, please remove previous mapping first "
>
> But the question is, how to I remove the previous mapping?  It does
> not show up in the current mapping list.
>
> All other subdomain mappings show up in this view, and seem to be
> working correctly.


The 'sites' application has an admin screen which also allows you to
map domains to sub-sites. This does not show up on the main screen
with all the other apps. Check here, and delete the 'www' mapping.

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[google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread johnP
Crash and burn?

Pretty much unaccessable now.

johnP


On Nov 23, 9:40 am, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> Lastly when something does execute, it is throwing catch
> (java.lang.RuntimeException with null message.
>
> Basically my site is DOWN!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:36 AM, A. Stevko  wrote:
> > Also my task queues are backed up with a thousand backlogged, 50 executed
> > in the minute, and Retries pushing 100.
>
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM, A. Stevko  wrote:
>
> >> app id: ninuku-archivist
>
> >> I'm used to having some of these 500 responses but now that is all my
> >> customers are getting!
> >>   Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your
> >> request

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
You too JohnP?

When I pause the queues, it seems to clear up. Unfortunately I've moved
_all_ of my heavy lifting onto a 1 request/second task queue that never gets
off the ground.



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:53 AM, johnP  wrote:

> Crash and burn?
>
> Pretty much unaccessable now.
>
> johnP
>
>
> On Nov 23, 9:40 am, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> > Lastly when something does execute, it is throwing catch
> > (java.lang.RuntimeException with null message.
> >
> > Basically my site is DOWN!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:36 AM, A. Stevko 
> wrote:
> > > Also my task queues are backed up with a thousand backlogged, 50
> executed
> > > in the minute, and Retries pushing 100.
> >
> > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM, A. Stevko 
> wrote:
> >
> > >> app id: ninuku-archivist
> >
> > >> I'm used to having some of these 500 responses but now that is all my
> > >> customers are getting!
> > >>   Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service
> your
> > >> request
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Re: [google-appengine] Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Yes.

Python:
  
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html#Static_File_Handlers

Java:
  http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/appconfig.html#expiration




Robert






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> Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Have you tried to increase the rates on the queue so it is not backing
up as much?









On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 15:01, A. Stevko  wrote:
> You too JohnP?
> When I pause the queues, it seems to clear up. Unfortunately I've moved
> _all_ of my heavy lifting onto a 1 request/second task queue that never gets
> off the ground.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:53 AM, johnP  wrote:
>>
>> Crash and burn?
>>
>> Pretty much unaccessable now.
>>
>> johnP
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 9:40 am, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
>> > Lastly when something does execute, it is throwing catch
>> > (java.lang.RuntimeException with null message.
>> >
>> > Basically my site is DOWN!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:36 AM, A. Stevko 
>> > wrote:
>> > > Also my task queues are backed up with a thousand backlogged, 50
>> > > executed
>> > > in the minute, and Retries pushing 100.
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM, A. Stevko 
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >> app id: ninuku-archivist
>> >
>> > >> I'm used to having some of these 500 responses but now that is all my
>> > >> customers are getting!
>> > >>   Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service
>> > >> your
>> > >> request
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Can not update referenced property

2010-11-23 Thread Robert Kluin
I think you've got something else wrong.  Either way should work.


Robert



class Test(db.Model):
  ref = db.ReferenceProperty()

t1 = Test(key_name="one")
t1_key = t1.put()

t2 = Test(key_name="two")
t2_key = t2.put()

# Make some entities with references.
t3 = Test(key_name="three", ref=t1)
t3_key = t3.put()

t4 = Test(key_name="four", ref=t2_key)
t4_key = t4.put()


# Check they were saved.
t3 = Test.get_by_key_name("three")
print 'three: ', str(t3.ref.key().name())

t4 = Test.get_by_key_name("four")
print 'four: ', str(t4.ref.key().name())


# Change the refs.
t3.ref = t2_key
t3.put()

t4.ref = t1
t4.put()

# Re-check.
t3 = Test.get_by_key_name("three")
print 'three: ', str(t3.ref.key().name())

t4 = Test.get_by_key_name("four")
print 'four: ', str(t4.ref.key().name())







On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 07:53, Haulyn R. Jason  wrote:
> Hi, I am trying to solve the problem, but I am confused by the key. Should
> anybody help me to check these code?
> I want to update a reference property, I want to change the shop from shop1
> to shop2 for custom. I am not sure which way is right:
> custom.shop = shop2
> custom.put()
> or
> custom.shop = shop2.key()
> custom.put()
> I tried these two ways, but not work.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Haulyn R. Jason 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am writing something code to create a model, and then update it. I have
>> a referenced property, it works well on create function, but it does not
>> work in update function. The code is simple as follow:
>>
>>         r = Information.get(self.params.get('id'))
>>         r.shop = Shop.get(self.params.get('shop'))
>>         for prop in Information.properties():
>>             if prop in self.params:
>>                 if prop is 'end_date':
>>                     r.end_date =
>> datetime.strptime(self.params.get('end_date',None),'%Y/%m/%d')
>>                 else:
>>                     setattr(r, prop, self.params.get(prop))
>>         r.save()
>>         self.redirect('/information/show/%s' % (r.key()))
>> Other properties are updated, but I can not update r.shop, I just tried to
>> assign shop2 instead of shop1 for my Information model.
>> Are there something I missed?
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
I just logged this into ticket 4113


more info on the situation with appid: ninuku-archivist

been down for 4+ hours

100% failures on all task queues (

100% failure on all mail send (low volume)

53% failures on gwt mvp dispatch request handlers

pausing the 1/s task queue returns system to stable & responsive to
user experience

unfortunately -no tasks- provides little or no user value because UI
only creates tasks to do the work (fetching facebook info & creating
xml/pdfs) - users are left hanging with nearly every action.

This couldn't have come in a worse time...
I've been getting great press in the blogs, my partner was just interviewed
by time mag, and, in the past 4 days, I got almost a thousand people to
grant my app full permission to access their Facebook profiles in exchange
for a couple of pdfs.
---Andrew Stevko
www.ninuku.com


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Robert Kluin wrote:

> Have you tried to increase the rates on the queue so it is not backing
> up as much?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 15:01, A. Stevko  wrote:
> > You too JohnP?
> > When I pause the queues, it seems to clear up. Unfortunately I've moved
> > _all_ of my heavy lifting onto a 1 request/second task queue that never
> gets
> > off the ground.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:53 AM, johnP  wrote:
> >>
> >> Crash and burn?
> >>
> >> Pretty much unaccessable now.
> >>
> >> johnP
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 23, 9:40 am, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> >> > Lastly when something does execute, it is throwing catch
> >> > (java.lang.RuntimeException with null message.
> >> >
> >> > Basically my site is DOWN!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:36 AM, A. Stevko 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Also my task queues are backed up with a thousand backlogged, 50
> >> > > executed
> >> > > in the minute, and Retries pushing 100.
> >> >
> >> > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM, A. Stevko 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> app id: ninuku-archivist
> >> >
> >> > >> I'm used to having some of these 500 responses but now that is all
> my
> >> > >> customers are getting!
> >> > >>   Request was aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service
> >> > >> your
> >> > >> request
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[google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread Sharp-Developer.Net
My sites are down as well - GAE system status s green :(

App id: petaclasses

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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Sharp-Developer.Net
Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
new version, dashboard is unavailable.

Alex

On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> this is the link my apps 
> dashboardhttps://appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> this is showing up
>  an error page most of the time
>
> Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete
> your request.
>
> If the problem persists, please
> report your
> problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>
> even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
> how can we resolve this issue..
>
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> Sandeep Koduri
> cricwaves.com
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
Please star & comment on  ticket
4113and
maybe we'll get some visibility.

I hope someone is firefighting this situation - the admin server just melted
down with repeated 500 responses
and my latest deployment just asked me to authorize.



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alexander.trakhime...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My sites are down as well - GAE system status s green :(
>
> App id: petaclasses
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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread mscwd01
Well this is strange, my app seems to be running better than usual and
throwing no 500 errors - it's speedy too. However, the dashboard is
down. :(

I think they need to add downtime as an official "feature" to the App
Engine as it is fast becoming one.

On Nov 23, 9:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
 wrote:
> Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
> new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>
> Alex
>
> On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > this is the link my apps 
> > dashboardhttps://appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> > this is showing up
> >  an error page most of the time
>
> > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete
> > your request.
>
> > If the problem persists, please
> > report your
> > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>
> > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
> > how can we resolve this issue..
>
> > --
> > Regards
> > Sandeep Koduri
> > cricwaves.com
> > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri

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[google-appengine] Absolutely NO Problems Currently

2010-11-23 Thread Steve
There's been increased postings of problems on the newsgroups and
production serving issues logged in the bug-tracker lately.  But I
want to tell you that clearly there are no problems with the google
app hosting infrastructure because the system status dashboard is as
green as an old style hundred dollar bill and it clearly reports 100%
availability.

What a bad fricken joke.  Google, the LEAST you could do is
acknowledge that deployments are snafu by posting to the downtime
notify group and sticking a note on the status dashboard.  The last
note says the problems were fixed on the 18th.  Well, my site went
down due to a fubar deploy on the 20th.  And the next day.  And today
again it's hosed.

I'm real happy you all got nice bonuses but did the whole company take
off for Thanksgiving already?  I mean, what good is having a global
presence if every office takes off (early) for a US holiday.  Can't
you at least hire somebody in India (because I know turkey isn't
popular there) to keep watch on the house and post oops we done broke
it again messages?

I mean really... Come ON!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_9zH9Q44o

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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Philip
A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
affected: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114

On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
 wrote:
> Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
> new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>
> Alex
>
> On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > this is the link my apps 
> > dashboardhttps://appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> > this is showing up
> >  an error page most of the time
>
> > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete
> > your request.
>
> > If the problem persists, please
> > report your
> > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>
> > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
> > how can we resolve this issue..
>
> > --
> > Regards
> > Sandeep Koduri
> > cricwaves.com
> > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip  wrote:

> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> affected: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
>
> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
>  wrote:
> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
> >
> > > this is showing
> up
> > >  an error page most of the time
> >
> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
> complete
> > > your request.
> >
> > > If the problem persists, please
> > > report your
> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
> >
> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
> > > how can we resolve this issue..
> >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > > Sandeep Koduri
> > > cricwaves.com
> > > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri
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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Krishna
Datastore latency just skyrocketed:

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2nlftrk&s=7

On Nov 23, 1:12 pm, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged 
> it.http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip  wrote:
> > A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> > affected:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
>
> > On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
> >  wrote:
> > > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
> > > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>
> > > Alex
>
> > > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
>
> > > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> > appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> > > > this is showing
> > up
> > > >  an error page most of the time
>
> > > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
> > complete
> > > > your request.
>
> > > > If the problem persists, please
> > > > report your
> > > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>
> > > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
> > > > how can we resolve this issue..
>
> > > > --
> > > > Regards
> > > > Sandeep Koduri
> > > > cricwaves.com
> > > > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Looking at it.

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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, A. Stevko  wrote:

> Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip wrote:
>
>> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
>> affected: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
>>
>> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
>>  wrote:
>> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
>> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
>> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hello,
>> >
>> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
>> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>> >
>> > > this is
>> showing up
>> > >  an error page most of the time
>> >
>> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
>> complete
>> > > your request.
>> >
>> > > If the problem persists, please
>> > > report your
>> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>> >
>> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
>> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
>> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
>> > > how can we resolve this issue..
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Regards
>> > > Sandeep Koduri
>> > > cricwaves.com
>> > > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri
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[google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread observer247
https://appengine.google.com/ is down !

500 Server Error

Is there a status page where we can see the status of app engine in
general. Using python.


On Nov 23, 1:07 pm, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> Please star & comment on  ticket
> 4113and
> maybe we'll get some visibility.
>
> I hope someone is firefighting this situation - the admin server just melted
> down with repeated 500 responses
> and my latest deployment just asked me to authorize.
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Sharp-Developer.Net <
>
> alexander.trakhime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My sites are down as well - GAE system status s green :(
>
> > App id: petaclasses
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[google-appengine] 500 error when accessing GAE dashboard

2010-11-23 Thread pca
When I access : http://appengine.google.com/dashboard?app_id=web-hi, I
get the error below consistently in the last 10 minutes, using both
Chrome and FireFox. Also when I want to upload my application using the
GAE launcher.
Pls help.
Error: Server Error The server encountered an error and could not
complete your request.
If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this
error message and the query that caused it.

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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Gaurav Vaish
+1. Dashboard (https://appengine.google.com) gives 500.



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On Nov 24, 2:14 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
wrote:
> Looking at it.
>
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>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, A. Stevko  wrote:
> > Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
> >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
>
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip wrote:
>
> >> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> >> affected:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
>
> >> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
> >> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>
> >> > Alex
>
> >> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > > Hello,
>
> >> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> >> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> >> > > this is
> >> showing up
> >> > >  an error page most of the time
>
> >> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
> >> complete
> >> > > your request.
>
> >> > > If the problem persists, please
> >> > > report your
> >> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>
> >> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> >> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> >> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
> >> > > how can we resolve this issue..
>
> >> > > --
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > Sandeep Koduri
> >> > > cricwaves.com
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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Shay Erlichmen
Same here

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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread dflorey
It would be helpful if the app engine status page would indicate
dashboard outage.

On 23 Nov., 22:19, Gaurav Vaish  wrote:
> +1. Dashboard (https://appengine.google.com) gives 500.
>
> --
> Happy Hacking,
> Gaurav Vaishhttp://www.mastergaurav.com
>
> On Nov 24, 2:14 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Looking at it.
>
> > --
> > Ikai Lan
> > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, A. Stevko  wrote:
> > > Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
> > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
>
> > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip 
> > > wrote:
>
> > >> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> > >> affected:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
>
> > >> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
> > >>  wrote:
> > >> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't upload
> > >> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>
> > >> > Alex
>
> > >> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >> > > Hello,
>
> > >> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> > >> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> > >> > > this is
> > >> showing up
> > >> > >  an error page most of the time
>
> > >> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
> > >> complete
> > >> > > your request.
>
> > >> > > If the problem persists, please
> > >> > > report your
> > >> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>
> > >> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > >> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > >> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular intervals..
> > >> > > how can we resolve this issue..
>
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Regards
> > >> > > Sandeep Koduri
> > >> > > cricwaves.com
> > >> > > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri
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[google-appengine] cache login/pw for appcfg in linux

2010-11-23 Thread pdknsk
I've been using Linux before to deploy and appcfg saved the login
credentials for a few hours, but have not figured out how to enable it
since I installed it on a new system. Does it require specific python
modules or is there a setting that can be set? Thanks.

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[google-appengine] Re: 500 error when accessing GAE dashboard

2010-11-23 Thread Kevin Whinnery
I am also getting a 500 error when attempting to access
http://appengine.google.com/

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE down?? Thousands of 500 Request was aborted after waiting too long

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
Yeah - talking about eating their own dog food.


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:17 PM, observer247  wrote:

> https://appengine.google.com/ is down !
>
> 500 Server Error
>
> Is there a status page where we can see the status of app engine in
> general. Using python.
>
>
> On Nov 23, 1:07 pm, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> > Please star & comment on  ticket
> > 4113and
> > maybe we'll get some visibility.
> >
> > I hope someone is firefighting this situation - the admin server just
> melted
> > down with repeated 500 responses
> > and my latest deployment just asked me to authorize.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Sharp-Developer.Net <
> >
> > alexander.trakhime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My sites are down as well - GAE system status s green :(
> >
> > > App id: petaclasses
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread A. Stevko
@Krishna
what is the link to that console? its not in my bookmarks,


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:24 PM, dflorey  wrote:

> It would be helpful if the app engine status page would indicate
> dashboard outage.
>
> On 23 Nov., 22:19, Gaurav Vaish  wrote:
> > +1. Dashboard (https://appengine.google.com) gives 500.
> >
> > --
> > Happy Hacking,
> > Gaurav Vaishhttp://www.mastergaurav.com
> >
> > On Nov 24, 2:14 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
> > 
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Looking at it.
> >
> > > --
> > > Ikai Lan
> > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> >
> > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, A. Stevko 
> wrote:
> > > > Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
> > > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
> >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip  >wrote:
> >
> > > >> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> > > >> affected:
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
> >
> > > >> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
> > > >>  wrote:
> > > >> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't
> upload
> > > >> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
> >
> > > >> > Alex
> >
> > > >> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> > > >> > wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > Hello,
> >
> > > >> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> > > >> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
> >
> > > >> > > this is
> > > >> showing up
> > > >> > >  an error page most of the time
> >
> > > >> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
> > > >> complete
> > > >> > > your request.
> >
> > > >> > > If the problem persists, please
> > > >> > > report your
> > > >> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused
> it.
> >
> > > >> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > > >> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > > >> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular
> intervals..
> > > >> > > how can we resolve this issue..
> >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > Regards
> > > >> > > Sandeep Koduri
> > > >> > > cricwaves.com
> > > >> > > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri
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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Gaurav Vaish
Up now!

Thanks Ikai...

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On Nov 24, 2:33 am, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> @Krishna
> what is the link to that console? its not in my bookmarks,
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:24 PM, dflorey  wrote:
> > It would be helpful if the app engine status page would indicate
> > dashboard outage.
>
> > On 23 Nov., 22:19, Gaurav Vaish  wrote:
> > > +1. Dashboard (https://appengine.google.com) gives 500.
>
> > > --
> > > Happy Hacking,
> > > Gaurav Vaishhttp://www.mastergaurav.com
>
> > > On Nov 24, 2:14 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
> > > 
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Looking at it.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Ikai Lan
> > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, A. Stevko 
> > wrote:
> > > > > Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
> > > > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
>
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip  > >wrote:
>
> > > > >> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> > > > >> affected:
> >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
>
> > > > >> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
> > > > >>  wrote:
> > > > >> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't
> > upload
> > > > >> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>
> > > > >> > Alex
>
> > > > >> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> > > > >> > wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > Hello,
>
> > > > >> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> > > > >> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> > > > >> > > this is
> > > > >> showing up
> > > > >> > >  an error page most of the time
>
> > > > >> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
> > > > >> complete
> > > > >> > > your request.
>
> > > > >> > > If the problem persists, please
> > > > >> > > report your
> > > > >> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused
> > it.
>
> > > > >> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > > > >> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > > > >> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular
> > intervals..
> > > > >> > > how can we resolve this issue..
>
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Regards
> > > > >> > > Sandeep Koduri
> > > > >> > > cricwaves.com
> > > > >> > > Gtalk: sandeep.koduri | Skype: sandeep.koduri
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[google-appengine] Re: Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?

2010-11-23 Thread J
Adding them is easy, as Robert indicated.

But be careful, not everything in the infrastructure respects them.
Perhaps I should have said, respects them too much. If you have a
static file header that is supposed to expire next Sunday, and update
the file before that time, the infrastructure is not required to serve
the latest version of the file since the expiry header has not expired
yet.

To get around this, you should implement some kind of a cache buster
(Google the term) unless the static files are truly static.

On Nov 23, 3:14 pm, Robert Kluin  wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Python:
>  http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html#St...
>
> Java:
>  http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/appconfig.html#expi...
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> > Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?
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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Krishna
@Andy

http://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/datastore/2010/11/23#ae-trust-detail-datastore-get-latency

Click on the status icons (check marks etc.) for each service to get
to the latency data for that particular service on that particular
day.

On Nov 23, 1:33 pm, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> @Krishna
> what is the link to that console? its not in my bookmarks,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:24 PM, dflorey  wrote:
> > It would be helpful if the app engine status page would indicate
> > dashboard outage.
>
> > On 23 Nov., 22:19, Gaurav Vaish  wrote:
> > > +1. Dashboard (https://appengine.google.com) gives 500.
>
> > > --
> > > Happy Hacking,
> > > Gaurav Vaishhttp://www.mastergaurav.com
>
> > > On Nov 24, 2:14 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
> > > 
>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Looking at it.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Ikai Lan
> > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>
> > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, A. Stevko 
> > wrote:
> > > > > Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
> > > > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
>
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip  > >wrote:
>
> > > > >> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> > > > >> affected:
> >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
>
> > > > >> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
> > > > >>  wrote:
> > > > >> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and can't
> > upload
> > > > >> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
>
> > > > >> > Alex
>
> > > > >> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri 
> > > > >> > wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > Hello,
>
> > > > >> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> > > > >> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
>
> > > > >> > > this is
> > > > >> showing up
> > > > >> > >  an error page most of the time
>
> > > > >> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not
> > > > >> complete
> > > > >> > > your request.
>
> > > > >> > > If the problem persists, please
> > > > >> > > report your
> > > > >> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that caused
> > it.
>
> > > > >> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > > > >> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > > > >> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular
> > intervals..
> > > > >> > > how can we resolve this issue..
>
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Regards
> > > > >> > > Sandeep Koduri
> > > > >> > > cricwaves.com
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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Stevko
it was up for a minute but now it is down...

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Looks like it's serving 500s again. Follow this thread here:

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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Krishna wrote:

> @Andy
>
>
> http://code.google.com/status/appengine/detail/datastore/2010/11/23#ae-trust-detail-datastore-get-latency
>
> Click on the status icons (check marks etc.) for each service to get
> to the latency data for that particular service on that particular
> day.
>
> On Nov 23, 1:33 pm, "A. Stevko"  wrote:
> > @Krishna
> > what is the link to that console? its not in my bookmarks,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:24 PM, dflorey 
> wrote:
> > > It would be helpful if the app engine status page would indicate
> > > dashboard outage.
> >
> > > On 23 Nov., 22:19, Gaurav Vaish  wrote:
> > > > +1. Dashboard (https://appengine.google.com) gives 500.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Happy Hacking,
> > > > Gaurav Vaishhttp://www.mastergaurav.com
> >
> > > > On Nov 24, 2:14 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)" 
> > > > 
> >
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > Looking at it.
> >
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> >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, A. Stevko 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Better of staring ticket 4113, Ikai has Acknowledged it.
> > > > > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4113
> >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Philip <
> philip.mates...@driggle.com
> > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> A production issue was created, please star it if you are also
> > > > > >> affected:
> > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4114
> >
> > > > > >> On Nov 23, 10:03 pm, "Sharp-Developer.Net"
> > > > > >>  wrote:
> > > > > >> > Seems the GAE is down. My websites are not accessible and
> can't
> > > upload
> > > > > >> > new version, dashboard is unavailable.
> >
> > > > > >> > Alex
> >
> > > > > >> > On Nov 23, 7:27 pm, sandeep Koduri <
> sandeep.kod...@cricfeeds.com>
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > Hello,
> >
> > > > > >> > > this is the link my apps dashboardhttps://
> > > > > >> appengine.google.com/dashboard?&app_id=myappidhere
> >
> > > > > >> > > this
> is
> > > > > >> showing up
> > > > > >> > >  an error page most of the time
> >
> > > > > >> > > Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could
> not
> > > > > >> complete
> > > > > >> > > your request.
> >
> > > > > >> > > If the problem persists, please
> > > > > >> > > report
> your
> > > > > >> > > problem and mention this error message and the query that
> caused
> > > it.
> >
> > > > > >> > > even the sync process is getting failed in this case.
> > > > > >> > > can i know why this is happening at dashboard.
> > > > > >> > > We need to monitor the quota usage for app in regular
> > > intervals..
> > > > > >> > > how can we resolve this issue..
> >
> > > > > >> > > --
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> > > > > >> > > Sandeep Koduri
> > > > > >> > > cricwaves.com
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: 500 error when accessing GAE dashboard

2010-11-23 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
We're investigating. Follow this thread for updates:

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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Kevin Whinnery wrote:

> I am also getting a 500 error when attempting to access
> http://appengine.google.com/
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[google-appengine] Re: Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?

2010-11-23 Thread Jason C
Since static files are only updated when you push new releases, you
can add a version number into the url for the static resource.

E.g. (python/django), in app.yaml:

  - url: /__v[^\/]+/static
static_dir: yourapp/static
expiration: 365d

Then in your template, create a templatetag (or something) that
injects the current build number into the url:

  

The rendered output would look something like:

  

where 12345 is your build number.

Doing this will allow you to set very long timeouts, but still have
fresh content (e.g., on a new code push).

j

On Nov 23, 3:35 pm, J  wrote:
> Adding them is easy, as Robert indicated.
>
> But be careful, not everything in the infrastructure respects them.
> Perhaps I should have said, respects them too much. If you have a
> static file header that is supposed to expire next Sunday, and update
> the file before that time, the infrastructure is not required to serve
> the latest version of the file since the expiry header has not expired
> yet.
>
> To get around this, you should implement some kind of a cache buster
> (Google the term) unless the static files are truly static.
>
> On Nov 23, 3:14 pm, Robert Kluin  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yes.
>
> > Python:
> >  http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html#St...
>
> > Java:
> >  http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/config/appconfig.html#expi...
>
> > Robert
>
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:11, vamsi  wrote:
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> > > Is it possible to add Expiry headers to static files ?
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Re: [google-appengine] cache login/pw for appcfg in linux

2010-11-23 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
I assume you're doing this for automated deployment? Instead of saving
these, you're probably better off using the email parameter and the --passin
param to pipe in the password.

Though it *would* be pretty cool to have deployment built in as a feature
for Google Code/Github/BitBucket checkins that pass tests.

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On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:26 PM, pdknsk  wrote:

> I've been using Linux before to deploy and appcfg saved the login
> credentials for a few hours, but have not figured out how to enable it
> since I installed it on a new system. Does it require specific python
> modules or is there a setting that can be set? Thanks.
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[google-appengine] Re: app dashboard not accessible

2010-11-23 Thread Stevko
Thanks for the link.

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[google-appengine] Re: cache login/pw for appcfg in linux

2010-11-23 Thread pdknsk
Thanks, this works too. However I'm sure it was automatic before. I
just entered login and password once when prompted, and was not asked
again on further update requests for at least a few hours, using
python appcfg update /app.

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[google-appengine] Re: Policy for instance startup

2010-11-23 Thread nickmilon
Not been a Googler can't help much with this.
Having said that, I suspect there is a kind of build in algorithm that
does some kind of application profiling taking into acount QPS,
response times, and other parameters which adjusts instance life time,
number of instances to start etc..
This could possibly explain the difference in behaviour between your
staging and production appls.

happy coding;-)

On Nov 23, 11:58 am, Tomas Alaeus  wrote:
> I'm curious when exactly instances are started. I have two
> applications running on GAE, one of them have billing enabled. The one
> with billing enabled have been stress tested and have at most started
> 100 simultaneous instances. The other is just for testing and staging
> purposes and have never handeled much traffic.
>
> What I experience is that the staging server never starts more
> instances than needed. If a single person views pages it will never
> load more than a single instance. The other one however seems to start
> about 5 instances before anyone can get hot responses, and it will
> continue to start up to about 10 before realizing that ~1 QPS isn't
> that much traffic (the requests finish in about 100ms each).
>
> So, why does GAE boot up lots of instances even though 1 instance can
> serve the incoming traffic without a problem (the requests doesn't
> even overlap, so no waiting is needed)?
>
> I realize that this isn't a very big issue, since when it gets lots of
> traffic it will indeed need all the instances. I'm just curious why it
> happens.

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[google-appengine] Re: cache login/pw for appcfg in linux

2010-11-23 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi

there is a .appcfg_cookies and an .appcfg_nag

I am pretty sure the stored user/id passwd is stored in cookies.
nag stores a property about being told about updates to the sdk.

--no_cookies prevents auth cookies from being stored, so

I would check to see if there is a .appcfg_cookies even present and is
writable.



T

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> Thanks, this works too. However I'm sure it was automatic before. I
> just entered login and password once when prompted, and was not asked
> again on further update requests for at least a few hours, using
> python appcfg update /app.

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[google-appengine] Re: cache login/pw for appcfg in linux

2010-11-23 Thread pdknsk
Success. It were indeed the cookies. It had created the file, but it
was empty. I deleted the cookie, and it worked after appcfg wrote a
new file. Thanks! I don't know though why it couldn't just overwrite
the file.

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[google-appengine] Re: Cannot deploy my app to the GAE

2010-11-23 Thread Gaurav Vaish
Change the web.xml and remove the reference to the DTD.
The problem may actually not be from the appengine but from the
java.sun.com server... I also faced this issue several times and found
that everytime the dashboard / appengine server was up. On scruitiny,
I found that the problem was caused because the java.sun.com server
was not available (after aquisition by Oracle).

You can change the "" lines to one line
as follows follows:


http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/j2ee";
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";>


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On Nov 23, 1:31 pm, Sumanth AS  wrote:
> Hi, i ve created a simple hello world application and have also got an
> app id registered. but i am unable to deploy the app to the server. i
> m getting an exception which is java.net.ConnectException. plz help me
> out. thanks in advance

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[google-appengine] DeadlineExceededError / Timeout

2010-11-23 Thread Alexander W.
Is there anything I can to to avoid DeadlineExceededErrors
(model .put() or query) and other Timeout Errors? I don't care if the
number is low compared to the total amount of requests, but I care
about the 20.000 users a day that get an error when loading my app due
to these errors.

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Re: [google-appengine] DeadlineExceededError / Timeout

2010-11-23 Thread 风笑雪
You can use task queue to do put() operations. If you don't care about the
query result, you can set deadline for its rpc and display a proper page
when timeout.

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On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Alexander W.
wrote:

> Is there anything I can to to avoid DeadlineExceededErrors (model .put() or
> query) and other Timeout Errors? I don't care if the number is low compared
> to the total amount of requests, but I care about the 20.000 users a day
> that get an error when loading my app due to these errors.
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[google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceededError / Timeout

2010-11-23 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi

Are these large queries and/or lot's of put's.  Have you looked at
appstats
to see if your doing these operations efficiently ?

Are you utilising caching with memcache to reduce your need for
querying all the time ?

Are you doing batch fetch's on your query results rather than
iterating ?

May be you have done all of these things, but thought I would point
them out,

Rgds

Tim



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> Is there anything I can to to avoid DeadlineExceededErrors
> (model .put() or query) and other Timeout Errors? I don't care if the
> number is low compared to the total amount of requests, but I care
> about the 20.000 users a day that get an error when loading my app due
> to these errors.

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Re: [google-appengine] DeadlineExceededError / Timeout

2010-11-23 Thread Alexander W.
I thought about using taskqueues, but it's important that I get the
result of the put() operation immediately. Maybe the new channel api
will help (release 1.4.0), so that I'll use task queues for put()
operations and push an info to the user once the operation result is
positive.


At the moment I show an error page to the user aking him to retry the
operation. (ajax request)

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[google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceededError / Timeout

2010-11-23 Thread Alexander W.
Yes I've looked at appstats, looks alright so far.


Problem 1: put() operations (ajax request)


It's one put() operation per request.


Problem 2: queries (normal requests)


It's important that the results of these queries are up to date, so I
have to fetch them every time a user loads the application.


It's a simple query, but the db has more than 10M entries.

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[google-appengine] urlfetch / facebook api

2010-11-23 Thread Alexander W.
When a user loads my app for the first time, I exchange his facebook
session_key for an facebook access_token, so that I can fetch his
profile information in order to create a new user account in my db.
This is done via urlfetch.


The strange thing is, that the urlfetch result sometimes is None and no
exceptions are thrown (DownloadError,..).


The Facebook Api usually never returns nothing, it returns a json error
message in the case an error occured.


Maybe I'm missing the point (I've never used urlfetch before), but it
seems strange.


Regards,


Alexander

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[google-appengine] Re: Pagination using Query Cursors

2010-11-23 Thread Tarun
Hi,

I have not yet found the appropriate solution to this problem.

The idea of iterating and caching the cursor values at every start of
the page is one solution that I had also tried.
It works, but I guess it is not the optimum way to do it. There should
be a better way which has no performance issues.

On Nov 12, 1:54 pm, dflorey  wrote:
> I am solving this problem by iterating through the result list
> asynchronously and caching the cursors pointing to each start of the
> page.
> Check out how it look here:
>
> http://ucm.floreyosft.net
>
> On Nov 12, 9:43 am, msmart  wrote:
>
> > Just out of curiousity. Did you solve your problem. If yes, how?
>
> > Greetings!
> >  Michael Martinides
>
> > On 27 Sep., 07:25, Tarun  wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I have been trying to performPaginationon the App Engine using Java,
> > > for a large data set of information. I read about it on many previous
> > > posts including the official documentation of Google App Engine :
>
> > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/datastore/queriesandindexe...
>
> > > Considering the constraints of fetching data from the datastore,
> > > nearly all the posts suggested the use of Cursors (a feature that was
> > > added in version 1.3.3.1 of the App Engine SDK ).
>
> > > Most of the code examples that I came across were performingpaginationby 
> > > displaying the pages sequentially, but my requirement is
> > > to even allow displaying the result for any page, i.e a random access
> > > is required. In simple words, I wish to attain apaginationwhich is
> > > similar to Google's way of displaying search results.
>
> > > After going through the Java Docs of the SDK, I got to know that
> > > Cursors can only store the index value for the next set of entries.
>
> > > Is there any other way to satisfy my requirement?

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[google-appengine] Re: DeadlineExceededError / Timeout

2010-11-23 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi

A single put ajax or otherwise shouldn't take to long, are you doing
the put inside transactions, with large entity groups? That could
cause problems. This isn't a big counter or something is it ? How long
is a single put taking ? and are you getting
a Datastore timeout or some other error ?

Size/number of entities in datastore really doesn't make to much
difference,

large entities with lots of indexes will affect your write time.

Just confirming you are doing a somequery.fetch(n) on your query
results?

Rgds

T
On Nov 24, 12:43 pm, "Alexander W." 
wrote:
> Yes I've looked at appstats, looks alright so far.
>
> Problem 1: put() operations (ajax request)
>
> It's one put() operation per request.
>
> Problem 2: queries (normal requests)
>
> It's important that the results of these queries are up to date, so I
> have to fetch them every time a user loads the application.
>
> It's a simple query, but the db has more than 10M entries.

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[google-appengine] Re: Policy for instance startup

2010-11-23 Thread Tomas Alaeus
Probably. With some more thinking I got to this conclusion:

At first, an application can utilize up to 30 instances. After having
used all those instances for a few minutes, and it still isn't enough,
GAE will increase the maximum number of available instances to 40, and
then to 50 etc. Every time it increases the number of instances it
will probably also adjust how and when it boots up new instances.

For my production app it probably tries to keep at least 10 instances
running since it thinks a huge amount of users can use the site at any
given time. The staging haven't had any rush of users, and therefore
thinks it is safe with just 1 instance running.

I would still like to hear something from a Googler. If this is how it
works then it means that stress testing the application (with a lot
more pressure than it will normally get) may lead to worse (!)
performance permanently.

On 24 Nov, 00:01, nickmilon  wrote:
> Not been a Googler can't help much with this.
> Having said that, I suspect there is a kind of build in algorithm that
> does some kind of application profiling taking into acount QPS,
> response times, and other parameters which adjusts instance life time,
> number of instances to start etc..
> This could possibly explain the difference in behaviour between your
> staging and production appls.
>
> happy coding;-)
>
> On Nov 23, 11:58 am, Tomas Alaeus  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm curious when exactly instances are started. I have two
> > applications running on GAE, one of them have billing enabled. The one
> > with billing enabled have been stress tested and have at most started
> > 100 simultaneous instances. The other is just for testing and staging
> > purposes and have never handeled much traffic.
>
> > What I experience is that the staging server never starts more
> > instances than needed. If a single person views pages it will never
> > load more than a single instance. The other one however seems to start
> > about 5 instances before anyone can get hot responses, and it will
> > continue to start up to about 10 before realizing that ~1 QPS isn't
> > that much traffic (the requests finish in about 100ms each).
>
> > So, why does GAE boot up lots of instances even though 1 instance can
> > serve the incoming traffic without a problem (the requests doesn't
> > even overlap, so no waiting is needed)?
>
> > I realize that this isn't a very big issue, since when it gets lots of
> > traffic it will indeed need all the instances. I'm just curious why it
> > happens.

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