Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-17 Thread penny1a
I believe the reason people are having trouble finding starch depends on
supply and demand.  I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle
of Sta-flo starch in my area.  If there is not a big demand for the product
in your area, the stores will drop the product.  In my county, there is
diversity in age depending where you live.  In the neighborhoods near me,
people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch.  If I
drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the
stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners
than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a
box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
Many do not even own an ironing board. 

As far as product selection and retailers:
Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC.  We have
problems with Costco dropping products.  The documentary explains how Costco
buys, product lines, markets, etc.  The problem is that the retailer and
manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices.  When this happens,
Costco drops the product.  Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer
retailers have 25%.  Costco is the number one retailer right now. When
Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top
three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer.   Costco carries a limited
assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give
customers choices.  Research shows that if you only have one or two choices
of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to
another grocery store.  Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and
will not purchase.
Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853   

Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail
clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still
buy SK goods at Costco.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239
91  Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a
department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand.  

My husband and I did an interesting survey last week.  I was at Sam's Club
and he was at Costco at the same time.  We both had a copy of our monthly
grocery list.  We talked on the cell phone and compared prices.  Sam's does
carry a larger assortment of products than Costco.  Costco only carries
4,000 products.  Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've
been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them!  I wish
we had the choices these location have.

A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who
are purchasing entire shelves of products.  I don't think either end knows
how to get a grip on this problem.  But it is causing problems of keeping
merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase.  

Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of
the store.  I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my
house.  Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas.  Lowe's
actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income neighborhoods.
Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name.  Try it!  Get their
Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item.  Go to any Lowe's without a
receipt to return the product.  They will scan the item and card, and pull
up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item.  This can be
good and bad.   

Penny Ladnier, owner
The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com 
15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery  

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[h-cost] Summer Classes at Visual Arts Center of Richmond, VA

2012-05-17 Thread penny1a
The Visual Arts Center of Richmond, Virginia has summer session classes in
fiber arts.  There are classes in other genres too.

http://visarts.org/adult-classes-2/fiber

They have classes for adults as well as children.  The link is to the adult
classes.  I am like a kid in a candy store and can't decide which classes to
take.

 

Penny Ladnier, owner

The Costume Gallery Websites

 http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com

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FaceBook:  http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery
http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery 

 

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Re: [h-cost] GRRR

2012-05-17 Thread lynlee o



 
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:31:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !

Well, those two I can understand, as you can make them easily. Tarragon in
hot wine vinegar; let steep, and sugar in the blender.
Sharon C.
 
 
 

  Sam's does carry a larger assortment of products than Costco.  Costco only 
carries
4,000 products.  Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've
been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them!  I wish
we had the choices these location have.
 
   
 
My beloved hubby does our shopping. (And he can tell cotton from linen fabric 
too!) He has to go to 3 supermarkets to get food without additives. One shop 
has a 10% discount for your 5 favourite buys. We can  no longer find 5 things 
worth buying in the shop! Malt vingear from the house brands is diluted 
acetic acid with caramel added ! YUMThe bands without added tartrazine colour 
have been deleted. Plain sugar has anti-caking agent added which means it 
makes lousy fudge!Dumb bunnies in bulk fabric shops think linen and silk are 
textures not fibres. The world isn't what it was - I must be getting old!!! 
NO! LynleePS sorry this is off topic, but I did get fabric in there :)  

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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-17 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on 
line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers do 
the shopping sure saves on gas!
-Original Message-
From: penn...@costumegallery.com
Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having 
trouble finding starch depends on
supply and demand.  I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle
of Sta-flo starch in my area.  If there is not a big demand for the product
in your area, the stores will drop the product.  In my county, there is
diversity in age depending where you live.  In the neighborhoods near me,
people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch.  If I
drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the
stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners
than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a
box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
Many do not even own an ironing board.
As far as product selection and retailers:
Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC.  We have
problems with Costco dropping products.  The documentary explains how Costco
buys, product lines, markets, etc.  The problem is that the retailer and
manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices.  When this happens,
Costco drops the product.  Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer
retailers have 25%.  Costco is the number one retailer right now. When
Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top
three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer.   Costco carries a limited
assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give
customers choices.  Research shows that if you only have one or two choices
of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to
another grocery store.  Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and
will not purchase.
Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853
Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail
clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still
buy SK goods at Costco.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239
91  Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a
department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand.
My husband and I did an interesting survey last week.  I was at Sam's Club
and he was at Costco at the same time.  We both had a copy of our monthly
grocery list.  We talked on the cell phone and compared prices.  Sam's does
carry a larger assortment of products than Costco.  Costco only carries
4,000 products.  Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've
been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them!  I wish
we had the choices these location have.
A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who
are purchasing entire shelves of products.  I don't think either end knows
how to get a grip on this problem.  But it is causing problems of keeping
merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase.
Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of
the store.  I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my
house.  Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas.  Lowe's
actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income neighborhoods.
Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name.  Try it!  Get their
Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item.  Go to any Lowe's without a
receipt to return the product.  They will scan the item and card, and pull
up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item.  This can be
good and bad.
Penny Ladnier, owner
The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery
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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-17 Thread annbwass
Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order, granted. 
But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow!  I know, I know, just need to 
plan ahead.


Ann Wass



-Original Message-
From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !


I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on 
line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers do 
the shopping sure saves on gas!
-Original Message-
From: penn...@costumegallery.com
Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having 
trouble 
finding starch depends on
supply and demand.  I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle
of Sta-flo starch in my area.  If there is not a big demand for the product
in your area, the stores will drop the product.  In my county, there is
diversity in age depending where you live.  In the neighborhoods near me,
people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch.  If I
drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the
stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners
than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a
box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
Many do not even own an ironing board.
As far as product selection and retailers:
Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC.  We have
problems with Costco dropping products.  The documentary explains how Costco
buys, product lines, markets, etc.  The problem is that the retailer and
manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices.  When this happens,
Costco drops the product.  Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer
retailers have 25%.  Costco is the number one retailer right now. When
Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the top
three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer.   Costco carries a limited
assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give
customers choices.  Research shows that if you only have one or two choices
of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to
another grocery store.  Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and
will not purchase.
Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853
Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail
clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still
buy SK goods at Costco.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239
91  Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a
department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand.
My husband and I did an interesting survey last week.  I was at Sam's Club
and he was at Costco at the same time.  We both had a copy of our monthly
grocery list.  We talked on the cell phone and compared prices.  Sam's does
carry a larger assortment of products than Costco.  Costco only carries
4,000 products.  Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've
been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them!  I wish
we had the choices these location have.
A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who
are purchasing entire shelves of products.  I don't think either end knows
how to get a grip on this problem.  But it is causing problems of keeping
merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase.
Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of
the store.  I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my
house.  Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas.  Lowe's
actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income neighborhoods.
Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name.  Try it!  Get their
Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item.  Go to any Lowe's without a
receipt to return the product.  They will scan the item and card, and pull
up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item.  This can be
good and bad.
Penny Ladnier, owner
The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery
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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-17 Thread Katy Bishop
Exactly--I miss the days of being able to pop out to the store and grab the
dye I need that day, or have a jug of liquid starch available when I don't
have the time to mix my own,, I do still have one of the Wal-Marts with
a fabric section nearby, so I can pop out for kid's costume fabrics if I
need to.  Small consolation for the Fabric Place being gone.

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:35 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:

 Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order,
 granted. But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow!  I know, I know,
 just need to plan ahead.


 Ann Wass



 -Original Message-
 From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu
 To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
 Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !


 I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on
 line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers
 do
 the shopping sure saves on gas!
 -Original Message-
 From: penn...@costumegallery.com
 Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM
 To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having
 trouble
 finding starch depends on
 supply and demand.  I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle
 of Sta-flo starch in my area.  If there is not a big demand for the product
 in your area, the stores will drop the product.  In my county, there is
 diversity in age depending where you live.  In the neighborhoods near me,
 people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch.  If
 I
 drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the
 stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners
 than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a
 box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
 Many do not even own an ironing board.
 As far as product selection and retailers:
 Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC.  We have
 problems with Costco dropping products.  The documentary explains how
 Costco
 buys, product lines, markets, etc.  The problem is that the retailer and
 manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices.  When this happens,
 Costco drops the product.  Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer
 retailers have 25%.  Costco is the number one retailer right now. When
 Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the
 top
 three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer.   Costco carries a limited
 assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give
 customers choices.  Research shows that if you only have one or two choices
 of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to
 another grocery store.  Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and
 will not purchase.
 Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary:
 http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853
 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail
 clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still
 buy SK goods at Costco.

 http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239
 91  Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a
 department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand.
 My husband and I did an interesting survey last week.  I was at Sam's Club
 and he was at Costco at the same time.  We both had a copy of our monthly
 grocery list.  We talked on the cell phone and compared prices.  Sam's does
 carry a larger assortment of products than Costco.  Costco only carries
 4,000 products.  Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've
 been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them!  I wish
 we had the choices these location have.
 A big problem with retailers and manufacturers is the extreme couponers who
 are purchasing entire shelves of products.  I don't think either end knows
 how to get a grip on this problem.  But it is causing problems of keeping
 merchandise on the shelves for the other customers to purchase.
 Lastly, some retailers have different prices according to the location of
 the store.  I have seen this at Lowe's and Food Lion within 10 miles of my
 house.  Strange, both charge higher prices in lower income areas.  Lowe's
 actually carries lower and higher ends goods at higher income
 neighborhoods.
 Now, Lowe's is tracking your purchases by your name.  Try it!  Get their
 Lowe's discount card, and purchase an item.  Go to any Lowe's without a
 receipt to return the product.  They will scan the item and card, and pull
 up your receipt from when you originally purchased the item.  This can be
 good and bad.
 Penny Ladnier, owner
 The Costume Gallery Websites
 www.costumegallery.com
 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history
 FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery
 

Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-17 Thread annbwass

Does seem rather ironic that we have access to all kinds of exotic things we 
never thought we could get our hands on, via the Internet, but, locally, our 
choices are less and less. I still have one JoAnn's that is run out and pick 
up a spool of thread close enough, and two more, along with G Street Fabrics, 
within reasonable driving distance. But even G Street's assortment is sadly not 
what it once was--it is a sorry state of affairs when I go there with a 25% off 
coupon and can't find one thing I want to buy! I think ALL of our WalMarts have 
gone out of the fabric business. I know their assortment was hit or miss, but I 
once scored 6 yards of blue/orange Indian cotton plaid that made great early 
19th century headwraps in the $1 bin. Hobby Lobby, which recently opened in our 
area, has a decent assortment of cotton prints. (When I reminded someone of 
that, she complained because they are more than $5 a yard, but THEY DO HAVE 
THEM!) 

Ann Wass



-Original Message-
From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 9:16 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !


Exactly--I miss the days of being able to pop out to the store and grab the
ye I need that day, or have a jug of liquid starch available when I don't
ave the time to mix my own,, I do still have one of the Wal-Marts with
 fabric section nearby, so I can pop out for kid's costume fabrics if I
eed to.  Small consolation for the Fabric Place being gone.
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:35 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:
 Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order,
 granted. But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow!  I know, I know,
 just need to plan ahead.


 Ann Wass



 -Original Message-
 From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu
 To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
 Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !


 I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on
 line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers
 do
 the shopping sure saves on gas!
 -Original Message-
 From: penn...@costumegallery.com
 Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM
 To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having
 trouble
 finding starch depends on
 supply and demand.  I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle
 of Sta-flo starch in my area.  If there is not a big demand for the product
 in your area, the stores will drop the product.  In my county, there is
 diversity in age depending where you live.  In the neighborhoods near me,
 people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch.  If
 I
 drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the
 stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners
 than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a
 box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
 Many do not even own an ironing board.
 As far as product selection and retailers:
 Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC.  We have
 problems with Costco dropping products.  The documentary explains how
 Costco
 buys, product lines, markets, etc.  The problem is that the retailer and
 manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices.  When this happens,
 Costco drops the product.  Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer
 retailers have 25%.  Costco is the number one retailer right now. When
 Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the
 top
 three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer.   Costco carries a limited
 assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give
 customers choices.  Research shows that if you only have one or two choices
 of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to
 another grocery store.  Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and
 will not purchase.
 Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary:
 http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853
 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail
 clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper retailers. BTW, you can still
 buy SK goods at Costco.

 http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=2601slug=40239
 91  Which would you choose for clothing-- Costco's 15% markup or a
 department store's 50%+ markup for a designer brand.
 My husband and I did an interesting survey last week.  I was at Sam's Club
 and he was at Costco at the same time.  We both had a copy of our monthly
 grocery list.  We talked on the cell phone and compared prices.  Sam's does
 carry a larger assortment of products than Costco.  Costco only carries
 4,000 products.  Off the mainland U.S., Costco carries more products...I've
 been to their stores in Hawaii and Liverpool, England...love them!  I 

[h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Marjorie Wilser
My favorite thread has been discontinued without so much as a peep. I  
am preternaturally p.o'd at the venerable Coats  Clark, but now I  
need to switch threads.


My old favorite was the sometimes deingrated Coats  Clark cotton- 
wrapped polyester. It had the shine of cotton and the strength of  
polyester. Coats is now producing it under the same name but it's all  
polyester.


Ideas? I know some folks out there are thread snobs, but I just want  
something that's (a) available!! and (b) will hold up. A little (c)  
affordability and (d) good color range wouldn't hurt either. A basic,  
workhorse thread!!


Second question: how do you match thread to fabric if you can't  
actually *compare* them in a store?


==Marjorie Wilser

 @..@   @..@   @..@
Three Toad Press
http://3toad.blogspot.com/




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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Wicked Frau
I am finding the quality of CC 100% poly to be superior to Gutterman and
the other Melnicke (sp?)  It seems much smoother to me.  And now that they
have gone to the European style bobbin I like them even more!
Sg

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote:

 My favorite thread has been discontinued without so much as a peep. I am
 preternaturally p.o'd at the venerable Coats  Clark, but now I need to
 switch threads.

 My old favorite was the sometimes deingrated Coats  Clark cotton-wrapped
 polyester. It had the shine of cotton and the strength of polyester. Coats
 is now producing it under the same name but it's all polyester.

 Ideas? I know some folks out there are thread snobs, but I just want
 something that's (a) available!! and (b) will hold up. A little (c)
 affordability and (d) good color range wouldn't hurt either. A basic,
 workhorse thread!!

 Second question: how do you match thread to fabric if you can't actually
 *compare* them in a store?

 ==Marjorie Wilser

  @..@   @..@   @..@
 Three Toad Press
 http://3toad.blogspot.com/




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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread annbwass

I stopped using the cotton wrapped polyester years ago, as my then-new Bernina 
didn't like it. (It went through the top okay, but always seemed to gum up the 
bobbin.) At that time, I switched to the long-staple European-made threads made 
by Guttermann and Mettler. I've always found them satisfactory--the only caveat 
is, I find it harder to tie a twist knot in the end--I attribute that to the 
fact that they are intrinsically anti-twist and snag.


I know some people tend to look down their noses at these threads, but I have 
been using them for years now and am very pleased. The color selection is good, 
although once in a while, I come up short.

Ann Wass

-Original Message-
From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 11:12 am
Subject: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions


My favorite thread has been discontinued without so much as a peep. I  
m preternaturally p.o'd at the venerable Coats  Clark, but now I  
eed to switch threads.
My old favorite was the sometimes deingrated Coats  Clark cotton- 
rapped polyester. It had the shine of cotton and the strength of  
olyester. Coats is now producing it under the same name but it's all  
olyester.
Ideas? I know some folks out there are thread snobs, but I just want  
omething that's (a) available!! and (b) will hold up. A little (c)  
ffordability and (d) good color range wouldn't hurt either. A basic,  
orkhorse thread!!
Second question: how do you match thread to fabric if you can't  
ctually *compare* them in a store?
==Marjorie Wilser
  @..@   @..@   @..@
hree Toad Press
ttp://3toad.blogspot.com/


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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-17 Thread michaeljdeib...@gmail.com
All our Walmarts got rid of their fabric awhile back - but they've brought it 
back. It's not what it was and it is hit and miss, but its better than nothing. 

What I've found with our JoAnns is that so many things are on sale and as such, 
coupons are useless - if I really need to use a coupon on fabric, I have to 
plan early enough to get it the one or two weeks of the year it's NOT on sale. 
That and their employees are not helpful on fabric - I worked for them for a 
while and they loved me simply because I knew the difference between cotton and 
wool! 

Michael Deibert
OAS AAS LLS
Sent from my iPhone

On May 17, 2012, at 9:44, annbw...@aol.com wrote:

 
 Does seem rather ironic that we have access to all kinds of exotic things we 
 never thought we could get our hands on, via the Internet, but, locally, our 
 choices are less and less. I still have one JoAnn's that is run out and pick 
 up a spool of thread close enough, and two more, along with G Street 
 Fabrics, within reasonable driving distance. But even G Street's assortment 
 is sadly not what it once was--it is a sorry state of affairs when I go there 
 with a 25% off coupon and can't find one thing I want to buy! I think ALL of 
 our WalMarts have gone out of the fabric business. I know their assortment 
 was hit or miss, but I once scored 6 yards of blue/orange Indian cotton plaid 
 that made great early 19th century headwraps in the $1 bin. Hobby Lobby, 
 which recently opened in our area, has a decent assortment of cotton prints. 
 (When I reminded someone of that, she complained because they are more than 
 $5 a yard, but THEY DO HAVE THEM!) 
 
 Ann Wass
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
 To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
 Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 9:16 am
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !
 
 
 Exactly--I miss the days of being able to pop out to the store and grab the
 ye I need that day, or have a jug of liquid starch available when I don't
 ave the time to mix my own,, I do still have one of the Wal-Marts with
 fabric section nearby, so I can pop out for kid's costume fabrics if I
 eed to.  Small consolation for the Fabric Place being gone.
 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:35 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:
 Many formerly readily available items are available via mail order,
 granted. But that doesn't help if you need it tomorrow!  I know, I know,
 just need to plan ahead.
 
 
 Ann Wass
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu
 To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
 Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 6:56 am
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !
 
 
 I googled both Argo and Sta-flo and these brands are readily available on
 line...coupons and free shipping for some of the sites. Letting my fingers
 do
 the shopping sure saves on gas!
 -Original Message-
 From: penn...@costumegallery.com
 Sent 5/17/2012 3:44:33 AM
 To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !I believe the reason people are having
 trouble
 finding starch depends on
 supply and demand.  I have no trouble finding Argo and the old blue bottle
 of Sta-flo starch in my area.  If there is not a big demand for the product
 in your area, the stores will drop the product.  In my county, there is
 diversity in age depending where you live.  In the neighborhoods near me,
 people are old enough to know what to do with powder or liquid starch.  If
 I
 drove 10 miles west, where the average people are younger generation, the
 stores' products differ. That generation would rather go to a dry cleaners
 than iron their clothes.If you show a lot of the younger generation a
 box or bottle of starch, they probably wouldn't know what to do with it.
 Many do not even own an ironing board.
 As far as product selection and retailers:
 Watch the Costco documentary that is showing this month on MSNBC.  We have
 problems with Costco dropping products.  The documentary explains how
 Costco
 buys, product lines, markets, etc.  The problem is that the retailer and
 manufacturer cannot agree on their wholesale prices.  When this happens,
 Costco drops the product.  Costco has a 15% markup and regular grocer
 retailers have 25%.  Costco is the number one retailer right now. When
 Costco, Sam's Club or WalMart drops them a product... what an impact the
 top
 three grocery stores can make on a manufacturer.   Costco carries a limited
 assortment or only one product (example ketchup) to deliberately not give
 customers choices.  Research shows that if you only have one or two choices
 of a product, a customer will buy it on spot so they don't have to go to
 another grocery store.  Given a big assortment, a customer is confused and
 will not purchase.
 Here a video of 10 minutes of the documentary:
 http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/47182853#47182853
 Calvin Klein sued Warnaco Group, a supplier to Costco and other retail
 clubs, for selling CK goods to these cheaper 

Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Wicked Frau
A doll maker friend of mine showed me how to make a 'quilter's knot'.  I
have been using it for years now for 'normal' sewing and have never had a
problem with tying a knot.  To ensure a smaller knot, I just make fewer
wraps around my needlehope this helps!

Sg

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:43 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:


 I stopped using the cotton wrapped polyester years ago, as my then-new
 Bernina didn't like it. (It went through the top okay, but always seemed to
 gum up the bobbin.) At that time, I switched to the long-staple
 European-made threads made by Guttermann and Mettler. I've always found
 them satisfactory--the only caveat is, I find it harder to tie a twist knot
 in the end--I attribute that to the fact that they are intrinsically
 anti-twist and snag.


 I know some people tend to look down their noses at these threads, but I
 have been using them for years now and am very pleased. The color selection
 is good, although once in a while, I come up short.

 Ann Wass


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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-17 Thread Anne Murphy
In my neighborhood (in NYC) some of the little mom and pop ethnic
convenience stores still sell Argo. Hard to find Linit, though (the
liquid starch  I used to get and use for a number of things...)

Anne

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:49 AM,  stils...@netspace.net.au wrote:

  Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:

 Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
 stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
 You bxstards!

 -C.

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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Cin
In cottons  cotton poly, I like Meineke (whatever the spelling) and
Guterman best.  I, too, sneer at the shreddy CC thread.
In silks, I prefer Earth Bell, tho I've never seen it in the US.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
cinbar...@gmail.com


On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote:
 My favorite thread has been discontinued without so much as a peep. I am
 preternaturally p.o'd at the venerable Coats  Clark, but now I need to
 switch threads.

 My old favorite was the sometimes deingrated Coats  Clark cotton-wrapped
 polyester. It had the shine of cotton and the strength of polyester. Coats
 is now producing it under the same name but it's all polyester.

 Ideas? I know some folks out there are thread snobs, but I just want
 something that's (a) available!! and (b) will hold up. A little (c)
 affordability and (d) good color range wouldn't hurt either. A basic,
 workhorse thread!!

 Second question: how do you match thread to fabric if you can't actually
 *compare* them in a store?

 ==Marjorie Wilser

  @..@   @..@   @..@
 Three Toad Press
 http://3toad.blogspot.com/




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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Kimiko Small
I also prefer the all cotton threads, especially Gutterman. My sewing machine 
was prepped by my repair guy to deal with the all cotton when he asked me my 
preference, and for the most part I've had no problems with it. I can usually 
get all cotton at the local fabric chain stores.

As to color matching, I no longer bother. I keep a selection of basic colors - 
red, blue, black, white, green, purple, cream/neutral, and medium grey. I use 
those to sew with. I rarely topstitch so it doesn't show. If I do plan on 
topstitching, I tend to use a color that will contrast, either a little or a 
lot, depending on what I want. This means I can usually get the larger rolls of 
thread, and I don't have a color that hangs around for years because I only 
used a small amount for a project. I think I got the purple only because my 
daughter likes the color for her clothes.

Kimiko


On May 17, 2012, at 8:11 AM, Marjorie Wilser wrote:

 Ideas? I know some folks out there are thread snobs, but I just want 
 something that's (a) available!! and (b) will hold up. A little (c) 
 affordability and (d) good color range wouldn't hurt either. A basic, 
 workhorse thread!!
 
 Second question: how do you match thread to fabric if you can't actually 
 *compare* them in a store?

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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Lavolta Press


I used to buy Coats  Clark cotton poly by preference,  but it became so 
fragile awhile back that I switched to Gutermann poly.  I recently 
bought some Gutermann all cotton and was surprised to find I like it 
less than their poly--the poly is smoother.  I always match colors very 
carefully--I want the inside of garments to look as good as the 
outside.  I have dozens of partial spools (I just sorted them all out by 
color).  When a spool gets really low I use it up as hand-basting thread.


Fran
Lavolta Press
Books of historic clothing patterns
www.lavoltapress.com



On 5/17/2012 1:41 PM, Kimiko Small wrote:

I also prefer the all cotton threads, especially Gutterman. My sewing machine 
was prepped by my repair guy to deal with the all cotton when he asked me my 
preference, and for the most part I've had no problems with it. I can usually 
get all cotton at the local fabric chain stores.

As to color matching, I no longer bother.


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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond

On 05/17/2012 05:51 PM, Lavolta Press wrote:


I used to buy Coats  Clark cotton poly by preference, but it became so
fragile awhile back that I switched to Gutermann poly. I recently bought
some Gutermann all cotton and was surprised to find I like it less than
their poly--the poly is smoother.



I agree with Fran's opinion of Gutermann all-cotton; I found it so rough 
as to be unusuable (and that was for hand-sewing).  Nowadays, I use 
Gutermann's silk for most of my hand-sewing.  If CC cotton/poly is 
gone, I'm not sure what I'll get the next time I break out my machine.



--
Cathy Raymond
ca...@thyrsus.com
(610) 805-9542

Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state.
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Re: [h-cost] h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Claire Clarke
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:11:19 -0700
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Subject: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions
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My favorite thread has been discontinued without so much as a peep. I  
am preternaturally p.o'd at the venerable Coats  Clark, but now I  
need to switch threads.

My old favorite was the sometimes deingrated Coats  Clark cotton- 
wrapped polyester. It had the shine of cotton and the strength of  
polyester. Coats is now producing it under the same name but it's all  
polyester.

Ideas? I know some folks out there are thread snobs, but I just want  
something that's (a) available!! and (b) will hold up. A little (c)  
affordability and (d) good color range wouldn't hurt either. A basic,  
workhorse thread!!

Second question: how do you match thread to fabric if you can't  
actually *compare* them in a store?

==Marjorie Wilser

I use Guterman, but that is mostly because it is the only 'brand' name
thread that seems to be readily available around here. I use either the 100%
cotton or the 100% silk, but then I am mostly doing hand sewing not machine
sewing these days. 
As for the second question, take a little snip of fabric with you when you
go to buy the thread. 

Claire






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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Ann Catelli
The fancy-pants polyester European threads always shredded in my machine, fwiw.

My workhorse cast-iron Singer worked just Fine with cotton-covered polyester.

Ann in CT




 From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com


In cottons  cotton poly, I like Meineke (whatever the spelling) and
Guterman best.  I, too, sneer at the shreddy CC thread.
In silks, I prefer Earth Bell, tho I've never seen it in the US.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread annbwass

I knew answers on thread preference would be all over the map--some like fancy 
pants European threads, some don't.Also interesting to note that some want to 
match thread to fabric exactly, others don't care. As to color, I veer towards 
the match exactly, but if I have a spool that is close, I will sometimes use 
it. And, as I've said, sometimes I can't find a good match with the European 
threads and had to fall back on Coats and Clark, but only for hand sewing, 
since my Bernina can't handle it. Guess I'll try the new formula, and see if 
I still have trouble. 

Ann Wass

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From: Ann Catelli elvestoor...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions


The fancy-pants polyester European threads always shredded in my machine, fwiw.
My workhorse cast-iron Singer worked just Fine with cotton-covered polyester.
Ann in CT


From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com

n cottons  cotton poly, I like Meineke (whatever the spelling) and
uterman best.  I, too, sneer at the shreddy CC thread.
n silks, I prefer Earth Bell, tho I've never seen it in the US.
-cin
ynthia Barnes
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Re: [h-cost] h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Marjorie Wilser

Hi Claire,

I was positing having to buy my thread online. . . hard to upload that  
bit of fabric swatch :-D


==Marjorie Wilser

 @..@   @..@   @..@
Three Toad Press
http://3toad.blogspot.com/

from Claire:


I use Guterman, but that is mostly because it is the only 'brand' name
thread that seems to be readily available around here. I use either  
the 100%
cotton or the 100% silk, but then I am mostly doing hand sewing not  
machine

sewing these days.
As for the second question, take a little snip of fabric with you  
when you

go to buy the thread.


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Re: [h-cost] Thread- reluctant switcher needs suggestions

2012-05-17 Thread Marjorie Wilser
That's funny, Ann, . . . I've _heard_ the modern machines had trouble  
with CC, but my Pfaff has never (save for a couple of occasions) had  
trouble with it. Now, all bets are off.


I bought some CC all-poly thread simply because it was all I could  
find. It's WAY better than the original all-poly threads of 30 years  
ago-- but not nearly so nice and tidy as the cotton-covered one they  
usta had.


I'm really glad I brought this up. It's giving me new ideas and things  
to try.


Thanks to one and all!

==Marjorie Wilser

 @..@   @..@   @..@
Three Toad Press
http://3toad.blogspot.com/


On May 17, 2012, at 7:10 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:

I knew answers on thread preference would be all over the map--some  
like fancy pants European threads, some don't.Also interesting to  
note that some want to match thread to fabric exactly, others don't  
care. As to color, I veer towards the match exactly, but if I have a  
spool that is close, I will sometimes use it. And, as I've said,  
sometimes I can't find a good match with the European threads and  
had to fall back on Coats and Clark, but only for hand sewing, since  
my Bernina can't handle it. Guess I'll try the new formula, and  
see if I still have trouble.


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