Re: [h-cost] RIP: Catherine Linda Walton
I am sorry to hear this. Thank you for letting us know. I know the group hasn't been as active lately, but I will miss her posts. Kate Pinner Costume & Scenic Design Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC 609-570-3584 pinn...@mccc.edu From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Catherine Walton [catherine.wal...@cherryfield.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:10 AM To: Historical Costume Cc: chris.rowl...@cherryfield.me.uk Subject: [h-cost] RIP: Catherine Linda Walton This is to let you know that my wife and member of this group Catherine Linda Walton passed away on the 23rd March. Her funeral is on the 14th April. The breast cancer, which she had about 30 years ago, came back and spread. By the time we realised there was nothing that could be done but keep her comfortable. She died at home, surrounded by her books, with me holding her hand. I know that she really enjoyed being on this group. Thank you and best wishes to all of you. Regards, Chris Rowland - Catherine's husband. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?
I'm here. Still like to see what's posted. I'm not on Facebook. Kate Pinner Costume & Scenic Design Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC 609-570-3584 pinn...@mccc.edu From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Robin Netherton [ro...@netherton.net] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:31 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going? I'm here -- but my first post saying so (from an alternate address by mistake) was rejected. On 12/17/2015 12:17 AM, Carol Kocian wrote: > Hi all, > > Is h-costume still going? I’m trying to change my e-mail address for it, but > the link below does not work. > > Thanks! > -Carol > > > >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Robin Netherton Editor, Medieval Clothing and Textiles ro...@netherton.net voice: (314) 439-1222 Life is just a bowl of queries. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?
I agree with LynnD..not enough time for Facebook Kate Pinner Costume Scenic Design Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC 609-570-3584 pinn...@mccc.edu From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Lynn Downward [lynndownw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:56 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Anyone here? I'm here. I have time for h-costume but not enough for Facebook. LynnD On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.gov wrote: Drat! I'm not able to do Facebook. Ginni Morgan -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:35 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Anyone here? I think so. I believe many who used to come here regularly may have shifted to various Facebook groups--I know I have. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 6:40 pm Subject: [h-cost] Anyone here? Hi, I haven't been getting any messages lately, until today-I got only one. Is the list especially quiet? Sharon Collier ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants
Seems to me that my daughter (27) and several students (college/high school) recently (in the past 2-3 years) was wearing 'floods'jeans cuffed up to the lower calf. Kate Pinner Costume Scenic Design Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC 609-570-3584 pinn...@mccc.edu From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Rickard, Patty [ricka...@mountunion.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:06 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants And let's not forget clam-diggers - similar to either capri pants or pedal-pushers, also from around the 1950s. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of aqua...@patriot.net Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants There was a short fad for knickers in the mid to late 1970s for women. Gauchos were another one, loose pants that ended below the knee - sort of like a split skirt. For both, you might wear them with a blouse and matching vest. Culottes were a skirt/shorts combo, just above the knee. They might have a wide leg or a separate panel for the skirt effect. Sporty, I remember my mom wearing them for golfing. Capri pants are high ankle or low calf length, and are currently fashionable, and were various times back as far as the 1950s. I think of Audrey Hepburn in them. Pedal pushers were long-ish shorts, I think just below the knee? But a regular pants width, not flared and not gathered. I remember them from the 1960s, but could be earlier. -Carol On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Sybella mae...@gmail.com wrote: In the '80s people called pants that ended just below the knee knickers. Assuming you mean 1980s: I recall Capri pants for women,not knickers. Before that, they were peddle pushers. And I think there's at least one other name for them. Knee highs, maybe? It seems every time they come back into fashion, they are called something else. Probably, pedal-pushers as that what my mom called the things they went bicycling in in the 1950s. Also, Knickers strikes me as something an early 20th c golfer or upperclass sport hunter (male) might wear. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants
Another name, at least in southeast Virginia, was 'clam diggers'. Kate Pinner Costume Scenic Design Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC 609-570-3584 pinn...@mccc.edu Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants Bella - I won't tell if you won't tell that I actually had a pattern very similar to this one. Like so many other fashionable items that I thought would put me in the cool kid category, I didn't actually ever make them... http://momspatterns.com/inc/sdetail/95681 - Hope On 3/20/13 5:11 PM, Sybella wrote: Honestly, it's something I'd rather not admit to so I'll trust you all to keep it a secret! ;) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] University of NH exhibit
Ditto that for getting on the list. Kate Pinner Costume Scenic Design Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC 609-570-3584 pinn...@mccc.edu From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Lavolta Press [f...@lavoltapress.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 4:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] University of NH exhibit So how can I get on the list to be notified about the book when it comes out? Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress On 1/28/2013 12:24 PM, Astrida Schaeffer wrote: Hi everyone-- I am subscribed to h-cost but have not been able to actually participate or even lurk for a long time, so when Marjorie wrote to the museum at which the exhibition I curated, Embellishments: Constructing Victorian Detail, is currently showing I confess I had a total DOH!! moment. I should have let you all know about it when it first opened! But the show is up through March 23 and as she wrote on my behalf, there will, at some point this year, be a book related to the project. The book will be a blend of coffee table book and how-to guide for making the kinds of embellishments on view. I will be posting a link later this week to an overview of the exhibition, not just the one rotating dress currently on the official museum web site. But in the meantime, here are some teasers, I hope they post. And if any of you are in the Durham, NH vicinity, I hope you come see the show! Best wishes to all of you, Astrida Schaeffer All are c. 1880 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Philly Metro Trip Advice
If you actually get into Philly, the Barnes museum just opened (re-opened after its move) on the Ben Franklin parkway. There must be a hundred Renoirs plus lots of other impressionists. An amazing collection. Kate From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of penn...@costumegallery.com [penn...@costumegallery.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:53 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] Philly Metro Trip Advice We are taking a road trip to Philadelphia metro today and will be there till Saturday morning. I am tagging along with my husband on a business trip. I've been to Philly several times and haven't made specific plans to do anything special. My husband wants to see Valley Forge. I have been to the whole Independence Hall bit, Franklin Museum, Franklin Mint Museum and Mummers Museum. I have looked at the Fine Arts Museum online and not really interested in their present exhibit. I am really trying to avoid massive amounts of tourists and would like to explore areas closer to our hotel that is near Valley Forge. Is the American Bandstand restaurant still open? Also wanting to eat some real German food.not on the high end. I was excited to go to a real mom pop German restaurant in Milwaukee and all we could find were high end ones. Anyone have suggestions of places to go with links? My best trips are always unplanned. I am excited to explore the metro a little deeper. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern? my fav...
I have used this one a lot for theatre use. Goes together quickly. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Melody Watts Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:47 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern? my fav... Since no one has answered this, I will get the ball rolling (so everyone who didn't answer can tell me what crap these patterns are,cause they are Big 3 patterns ) but I have used this one with success, McCalls M6143. It is a multi size pattern for kids and adults,has 4 American Heros in it Uncle Sam,Statue of Liberty, Tom Jefferson and Abe Lincoln The Abe Lincoln pattern is a simple to put together Frock type coat ,that turns out quite well. I used this to make my then Teenage son a Black Frock coat as featured on the main characters in the 1990's movie Tombstone. I used a havy canvas /slubby linen for a more Cowboy ,less Townie look. He still has it ,and he's 35. You can use better material,line it and add fancy buttons, It is simple and not compliccated to use. McCalls's also offeres a mens Civil war Officers Jacket M4745. Has 2 vaariations. Now, let the opionions begin... melody From: aqua...@patriot.net aqua...@patriot.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern? Hello, A friend just asked me, can anyone recommend a pattern for an American Civil War era frock coat? Thank you! -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] NON-water soluble
That being said for white glue, try carpenters glue (the yellow stuff). Obviously not period, but they make one that is a bit flexible for furniture and once it dries, it pretty much stays dried. Kate From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Audrey Bergeron-Morin [audreybmo...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 11:07 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] water soluble I believe Stiffy is essentially white glue. If it is white glue, then it won't dissolve. The instructions I had said you could rewet and reshape - that was a while ago, they might have changed the formulation since then. White glue is not waterproof. If you soak it, it softens and you can scrape it away. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !
You can get Argo from Rose Brand Theatrical supplies http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=argo Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Bambi TBNL Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:20 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if you have a way to shop a kosher food place Bambi (To be named later) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad Twitter: hippydippydncr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... ! I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] starch recipe
Try Rose Brand. They sell Argo for starching drops. http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=starch From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Wicked Frau [wickedf...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:30 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] starch recipe On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote: Sta Flo is also available online. As I was searching for it, I found this recipe. http://www.pinkyhasabrain.com/homemade-cleaning-recipes/homemade-liquid-starch-recipe/ I especially like that it adds fragrance. Sg On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:23 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I was wondering if someone carried it mail order--that looks like the stuff! Argo powdered starch. Ann Wass -- -Sg- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Buttonhole attachments; was beginner sewing machine
Would those old buttonhole attachments work on modern machines? If so, I'm going to try to find mine. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Downward Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:09 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine Yes it did, and I couldn't figure out (then) why anyone would need a round buttonhole. Now I can think of several uses for it. Lynn On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Rickard, Patty ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote: Was that the one that would actually do round buttonhole? Patty since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the nifty buttonhole foot accessory. That was a wonder! Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT- shop machines
For those of you who run costume shops: What do you recommend for teaching basic sewing skills? Machines that will stand up to student abuse? Basic machines and also sergers? Kate Pinner ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Movie Costume Question: McGonagall's Yule Ensemble
At one time, Joann's carried a white silk that was pin-tucked like that and silk takes dye. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Henderson Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:14 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie Costume Question: McGonagall's Yule Ensemble Hi everyone, You are all the most amazing costume sleuths I have ever known! The links and colour info are just wonderful, and all these details! Wow! I promise I will post pics of the result. I may try making the black gown too--watching Minerva lead the defense of Hogwarts was just stupendous, and that's where the large pic of her looking so intense comes from. :) Great that modern cameras can let us see so close as to determine the pattern on a solid colour like that! For the over-gown, I think the pre-pintucked fabric can be gotten in stores in all sorts of colours but I have yet to see it in that close a match of shade. If I find a non-tucked fabric that looks like the colour closely enough, I'll bite the bullet and pintuck it myself as the lady did in that tutorial someone posted the other day. I had not noticed all the close details (tailed collar and cuffs, thank you, De!) so those pieces of info are a godsend. I did order the dreadful costume cape (lol!) and noticed that the list of notions includes rigilene. This is going to be a fun challenge! :) Thanks so much! I think I will create a blog page for this project. in huge appreciation, Meli ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Heavy underwear
How much did bustles weigh? Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Martha Kelly Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:38 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Heavy underwear My first thought was early 1850's, just before the hoop, as others have said. But I wonder if, pound for pound, the 1770's and thereabout might win. Stays that were solidly boned and several layers thick were heavier than corsets, linen shifts were heavier than chemises, petticoats were worn under and over the panniers and some of these were quilted for warmth, and there was the separate pocket, often worn in pairs. It might be a toss-up. Though I'm still betting on mid-Victorian. Martha ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Directory
Raising hand ... me! I was in the directory. I still have mine. I think I joined in 1995. Mostly lurk and/or ask questions. You guys (or ya'll -- depending on if you are north or south of the Mason-Dixon line) know so much more than I. I've learned a lot from you. Kate Pinner From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of penn...@costumegallery.com [penn...@costumegallery.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 1:27 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] h-costume Directory Gosh, Carol...my directory is packed away. I compiled the directory sometime between 1997-1999. I looked on all my master computer backups and can't find it. It might be backed up on a back-up tape (remember those) or a floppy disk. I can still use floppy disk on my master computer. For some reason I believe I printed it in 1998 when I ran the first online costume ball. I do readily available all the costume post cards that h-costumers mailed me for my postcard wall quilt. Who remembers being in the h-costume directory? I guess the newbies must think we were crazy in the beginnings...but we had a blast on h-costume. Carol, I will never forget meeting you for the first time in Williamsburg for the Quilt Fest. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sewing Apps
Any apps for PCs for us non-Mac people? From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of Becky Rautine [zearti...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 1:21 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing Apps I visited the link posted and was so proud THAT IS MY DRAWING!! used on the Margo Anderson Tudor pattern. I like the program and may check it out. I know it would help keep up with the patterns I already have. Fabric, threads, trim and buttons all in one place. Thanks. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine From: kim...@kimiko1.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:33:47 -0700 To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing Apps I have a Mac, on which I use Bento for a simple database program. On Bento, one can create Templates, and I've created at least one for historical and vintage patterns that I've shared on the Bento Templates area online. http://solutions.filemaker.com/database-templates/detail.jsp?serial=2551354 I think it is outdated since I haven't updated to their latest version, but it works for me. Bento can also be ported to an App for the iPhone, which I will do as soon as I can find the iTunes card I bought for buying apps. I am also keeping track of my embroidery supplies list on a similar template which I've yet to upload. Also, there are old fashion print-outs to keep track of fabric trim swatches. I offer a few different types here: http://kimiko1.com/largesse.html I prefer to keep my fabric and trim swatches on a card, as I'd rather be able to touch and see exactly what I have. While it would be nice to have them on my iPhone, the colors change depending on what sort of light I took the photo from. I also shop my own stash cards before I head out to buy whatever I may be missing, and then I will take the cards with me in a folder, if I really need to color match. Kimiko On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Franchesca wrote: I remember a thread about organizers for our computers for our stashes as well as an entire mailing list (or two) on this but I cannot find it now. Anyone have any PC programs that do all this? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1880's casual dress question
IIRC, 1879-80 is sort of between bustle periods. What would a young English lady living on the coast of Cornwall be wearing? I will be costuming Pirates of Penzance in January and am looking for some ideas of where to look. Fashion plates in Godey's and Harper's hardly seem the type of garment that young ladies would be wearing on the beach. Googling previous Pirates productions produces a wide range. Of course I know that it is an operetta with a rather silly premise and costume designers can take great liberties, but I would love to have some idea of what might actually have been worn. Any pointers in the right direction will be greatly appreciated. I am more familiar with 18th cent.-early 19th c. and then very late 19th c. (Fran, which of your books covers this?) Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings
I would never have thought to look in Target. While one of the actors got them from his wife (a nurse), the other went to a medical supply house. I have no idea how expensive they are. But they seem to be able to fit various sizes - from short and quite stocky to tall. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 9:45 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings They are hideously expensive, but are almost indestructible. I think they are called compression socks, or some such, and they can be found in the travel section of places like Target and various pharmacies, or with the footcare section. On 6/27/11 7:39 AM, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote: I just did Amadeus and two of my actors showed up with those white long socks/stockings/whatever they're called that hospitals use to keep your circulation going. They come up over the knee and are opaque and don't run. The actors (one was 5'-8, 300 lbs, and the other was 6'-3, 200 lbs.) said they were comfortable. Kate From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of stils...@netspace.net.au [stils...@netspace.net.au] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:46 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings Depending upon how historically accurate you need to be, you may try some of the high-end erotic lingerie suppliers [Q or Queen size for larger cuts], -C. in the Fall. But I have not been able to find a source for those white stockings. I used some white knee socks once in Sound of Music but they This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings
I just did Amadeus and two of my actors showed up with those white long socks/stockings/whatever they're called that hospitals use to keep your circulation going. They come up over the knee and are opaque and don't run. The actors (one was 5'-8, 300 lbs, and the other was 6'-3, 200 lbs.) said they were comfortable. Kate From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of stils...@netspace.net.au [stils...@netspace.net.au] Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:46 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings Depending upon how historically accurate you need to be, you may try some of the high-end erotic lingerie suppliers [Q or Queen size for larger cuts], -C. in the Fall. But I have not been able to find a source for those white stockings. I used some white knee socks once in Sound of Music but they This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] History of Costume text?
The powers that be at my community college (where I am a theatrical costume and set designer) have decided to start a Fashion Design and Merchandizing program (the push seems to be from the merchandizing/businesss side) and they are expecting me to teach the history of costume, basic sewing, and textiles. They seem to be leaning toward using books from Pearson and the the text for costume history they are looking at is 'History of World Costume and Fashion' by Daniel Delis Hill. Anyone know this text and have a comment? (I suggested 'Survey of Historic Costume' by Tortora Eubanks -- don't know if they will listen to me). Other texts they are looking at are 'The Sewing Book' by Alison Smith and 'Textiles' by Kadolph. Any comments? Kate Pinner ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt
I think it's called illusion net Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sheridan Pohl Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:03 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt To narrow your search, look for Bellydance costume makers/suppliers. Belly covers would be a good search parameter. I have the name of the place I bought mine from at home somewhere - Sugar petals is another one - I'll look it up for you this evening when I get home. Sheridan Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:13:20 -0500 From: audreybmo...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt Good afternoon, This is slightly off topic, but at the moment my google seaching skills are totally failing me. I'm trying to find a skin-tone mesh top of the kind that would be worn with a stage costume; but I would prefer a long-sleeved shirt (even better if it buttons at the crotch) to buying fabric and having to sew it myself. Does such a thing exist? And if it does, where can I start looking? Right now I find absolutely nothing and I simply can't believe that nobody else has a need for something similar. Thank you! Audrey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Philly places to visit
Check out the Philadelphia Art Museum. The Perlman building houses their costume/fashion section. They also have some Asian stuff and textile/fibre arts. Depends on your interest. They have some Elsa Schiaparelli and might be open to showing you stuff not on display if you contact them. The Peacock Male: Exuberance and Extremes in Masculine Dress opens tomorrow. And plan to come back for the Roberto Capucci: Art into Fashion exhibit that opens in March. http://www.philamuseum.org/exhibitions/733.html Philly also has a Textile museum and a small fabric district on 4th near South Street. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of penn...@costumegallery.com Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 5:10 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] Philly places to visit I am going to be in Philly Thursday and Friday next week. Are there any museum exhibits that are fashion/costumes related that I should see? Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] vintage dress washing question
I have had good results with antique lace with Orvis -- it is a mild shampoo sold in feed/tack stores for washing horses. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth H. Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:28 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] vintage dress washing question OyxClean is really good at getting yellow stains out of white fabrics, especially perspiration stains and the grunge that gets around the neckline. Follow the directions on the container - I've always just let the item soak in water with the oxyclean overnight. It works really well on linen undergarments. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Ann Catelli elvestoor...@yahoo.com wrote: If the dress is strong enough to withstand getting wet, I'd start with yellow laundry soap, the kind that comes in a bar. Work up a lather between your hands, rather than rubbing the bar on the dress, using lukewarm water, and allow the dress to soak in the soapy water for half an hour. Rinse with more lukewarm water, and see what you've got--changes, damage (I hope not), etc. I have had some stains lift after a 24-soapy-soak, but don't start with that extreme. Ann in CT --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Cynthia Corley cyncor...@yahoo.com wrote: I have an early 60s all cotton white lace dress that is yellowed with some staining/discoloration. If it was a new garment I would wash it with some bleach, but I worry it won't survive that treatment. Lemon juice? Peroxide? Any suggestions? I apologize if this is an already-covered subject. Cynthia ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed!
And Euroboning? Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Katy Bishop Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:44 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed! I too want to know where else one can order a roll of boning tape or a gross or corset bones or great-gross of uncarded hooks and eyes? Are there any other corset and dressmaking supply houses out there that sell larger amounts than by the yard? Does farthingales do wholesale pricing? I need a new roll of boning tape for 1/4 bones soon. Katy On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Franchesca franchesca.ha...@gmail.com wrote: That is so sad. Who else is left that provided what they did? Franchesca -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kimiko Small Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed! Oh, that really sucks. Thanks for letting us know. Kimiko From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com Subject: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed! http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20100930/REAL_ESTATE/100939990h= d8035 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] ping please?
I read it as Theatre Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of aqua...@patriot.net Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:57 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] ping please? Probably Town House. I'm here, not at the war! I've been scanning my historic sticking slides into electronic format. -Carol On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote: What's a TH? Trailer Home? ___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info..
Ron, Ginni, Thank you for all the info. I had noticed that some of the images I have seen do have the points in different relationship to the square (and some don't have the square at all), but just figured that the painter/embroiderer made the decision -- silly me. The skull, bones, coffin all refer to man's mortality, right? The eye refers to God? They don't denote rank? Even if I weren't doing Amadeus, I find this interesting. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Ron Carnegie Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:55 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info.. Okay sorry to bore those not interested. I checked on the below mentioned info. Here in Virginia the rule is, if it is printed in our stuff it aint a secret! And the information I am about to mention is printed. The reasons for it are not. All of this has to do with the placement of the square and compasses. I imagine that many of your are familiar with the general shape with the compasses open, points downward, with the square placed with the angle downward. The little point, that I really don't think will be visible to the audience anyway is this: Entered Apprentice Degree- the square should be on top of the two points of the compasses Fellowcraft (what the wiki is calling journeymen and perhaps some jurisdictions do)- the left point of the compasses should be under the square the right point over Master- both points should be over the square I hope you understand what I mean. It would be easier to depict in a picture. If you look at the posts I sent, as I recall most importantly the two supposed Burn's aprons, you should see what I mean. I'm your huckleberry Ron Carnegie r.carne...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Ron Carnegie Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:42 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info.. Hmmm ... there is a difference in some symbolism between the three degrees, but it is minor and I am not certain that I can tell you. Let me check my Presentation manual and see if it is in there, if it is I can share it with you, if it is not, then I can't. That being said however, any of the secrets of masonry regarding recognition signs or ritual can easily be found online. If my jurisdiction regards it a secret however, I would be in violation of my obligation in sharing it with you or verifying your sources. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info..
-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Melody Watts Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:11 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info.. The aprons have different symbols on it to designate the position of the member in the Temple (meeting room) The top Guy is called the Worshipful Master, then there is the Templar., the Tiler, etc,etc.. The Aprons are easy to read like rank insignia in the Armed forcesso the are different. They also have a Dress Apron for formal occasion,more lux fabric. This site : http://www.masonicformasons.com/Apron.html Shows you the symbols close up and the title with it. Mozarts would reflect his position in the Lodge. and his degree (numerical designation ,as tohow far you tested and passed the rites) Did you see if there is any art workof him wearing his Apron? Hope this helps. Melody --- On Tue, 7/20/10, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote: From: Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu Subject: [h-cost] Masonic aprons To: h-cost...@net.indra.com Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:01 PM The frst time I sent this, I'm not sure it went thru, so I'm trying again. Kate Pinner In the 18th cent., would all the aprons in a Masonic Lodge be the same? Or would the individuals have different ones? I ask because I'm doing Amadeus next year and the play calls for three of them. There is a portrait of George Washington in an apron and it is different from what is supposed to be his Masononic apron, so he had at least two different ones. Should make all the aprons the same of should they be different? I don't want to cause great offence to any Masons in the audience, but I kind of like the idea of them being different. Any symbols I really shoudn't use? Does anyone know what Mozart's apron really looked like? Kate Pinner Technical Coordinator Kelsey Theatre Mercer County College 609-570-3584 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Masonic aprons
The frst time I sent this, I'm not sure it went thru, so I'm trying again. Kate Pinner In the 18th cent., would all the aprons in a Masonic Lodge be the same? Or would the individuals have different ones? I ask because I'm doing Amadeus next year and the play calls for three of them. There is a portrait of George Washington in an apron and it is different from what is supposed to be his Masononic apron, so he had at least two different ones. Should make all the aprons the same of should they be different? I don't want to cause great offence to any Masons in the audience, but I kind of like the idea of them being different. Any symbols I really shoudn't use? Does anyone know what Mozart's apron really looked like? Kate Pinner Technical Coordinator Kelsey Theatre Mercer County College 609-570-3584 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons
Perceptive comment, thanks. I'll do that. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:17 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons I would suggest calling a local Masonic lodge. They may not have much historic knowledge. I've occasionally talked to members of religious orders who believe their habits have not changed since the order was founded, when that is definitely not the case. But your local modern Masons can tell you what is done now and what a modern Mason might consider offensive. Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic costuming www.lavoltapress.com In the 18th cent., would all the aprons in a Masonic Lodge be the same? Or would the individuals have different ones? snip ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?
Thanks for all your input. I've used that technique for belt loops and tacking linings in place, but never knew the name bride, and also never thought to use it as a reinforcement. When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it would be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be worked more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash point catching the fabric? Thanks again, Kate -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc? Well, not so much modern as English, given that bride is the French term ;-) The modern term would be a tailor's bar. In a message dated 30/06/2010 19:15:28 GMT Daylight Time, h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes: In Costume Close Up by Linda Baumgarten John Watson on page 107 describing a late 18th century shirt neck opening, the authors state A buttonhole-stitched bride is worked at the point to reinforce the slashed opening. The bride appears to be a later replacement. I have never heard of the term bride. Anyone know this term? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?
That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower end of side seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs? Kate When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it would be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be worked more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash point catching the fabric? Thanks again, Kate I do both. I buttonhole stitch around the point of the slit, and then make a bride about a 1/4 inch up from the slit. Carmen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?
I've put little gussets there, but like the idea of a bride better. Thanks! Kate That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower end of side seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs? Kate Usually not the cuffs, unless the person I'm sewing for puts a lot of stress on that seam, but certainly on the side slits. Carmen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc?
In Costume Close Up by Linda Baumgarten John Watson on page 107 describing a late 18th century shirt neck opening, the authors state A buttonhole-stitched bride is worked at the point to reinforce the slashed opening. The bride appears to be a later replacement. I have never heard of the term bride. Anyone know this term? Kate Pinner Costume Designer Kelsey Theatre 609-570-3584 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc?
Thanks. Where might I find an image? -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Carmen Beaudry Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:35 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc? In Costume Close Up by Linda Baumgarten John Watson on page 107 describing a late 18th century shirt neck opening, the authors state A buttonhole-stitched bride is worked at the point to reinforce the slashed opening. The bride appears to be a later replacement. I have never heard of the term bride. Anyone know this term? Kate Pinner It's a needlelace or cutwork term, referring to the buttonhole bars joining more solid areas. They're also used to reinforce slits. Carmen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Late 18 century questions
I am gearing up for a production of Amadeus next year and have several questions. For those who might not know the show, it takes place in Vienna 1780-1791, with very brief bits of 1823. Starting with the men's shirts: How different from 1860's? I assume the body area is basically the same (right?), but the collar/neck band changes? Cuffs? Always white? Ruffles and laces on the stock? Wigs: Powdered white for scenes at the Emperor Joseph's court, but natural hair -- long and pulled into ponytail for men; done up high but not necessarily powdered for women -- for non-court scenes, right? Men: Waistcoats/vests are about hip length by now, not down to thigh? Right? And the coats are curving to the back? Were any men wearing a coat that has a 90(or near 90)degree angle at the front lower edge? Emperor Joseph was German, Salieri was Italian, Mozart was influenced by German, French and Italian. What were the differnces in fashion in these three countries? Women: Same kind of question - would French influence have dominated? Would the women still be wearing panniers at this time? The director really wants to incorporate some wild touches to Mozart (he was sort of the 18th century equivilant to a punk rocker) so any references to outlandish fashion styles would be good. The director wants to have a pink or blue streak in his powdered wig, for example. Good online images/sources would be fast and easy, but ILL can get me some books as well. Any and all recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks! Kate Pinner ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] early Civil War women's dress - side note safety pins
Just an 'aside' -- Although the moern safety pin might have been invented around 1845, the Princeton Art Museum has a safety pin in their ancient Greek and Roman collection. Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lisa A Ashton Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 9:28 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Query RE: early Civil War women's dress Hello to everyone, I have newly subscribed, and hope you can help with some little detail-oriented question I have about dress for an approx. 1861 upper-middle-class women's dress: (She lived in New England). I appreciate in advance your help--you were all EXTREMELY helpful about 6 years ago, when I reproduced my great-grandmother's dress from a family photo. The final product was amazing. This time I am trying to re-create a historical character. I chose a bodice with bishop sleeves and a very full skirt. Lots of petticoats. An apron. The fabric is a 100% cotton that is a medium size print in a base of navy/indigo blue, with small white circles surrounded by smaller green crescents and tiny white dots in a a diagonal pattern. . Anyway, here are my first questions about the 1861 lady: 1. Were side front closures the most common? and was it usually the left or the right side? 2. What about pockets? I cannot find any references or photos that show skirts had pockets--were they still using a little pouch tied at the waist under the dress? Is it reasonable to design a watch pocket in the skirt? 3. What kind of hose would they usually wear? Above or below the knee? (and Im referring to daily wear, not formal) and how was it held on?--would she have worn silk or cotton (even though cotton, by that time, may well have been becoming harder to obtain). Can you suggest a reference for making the garters? 4. I have some references that women (of working classes at least) would have had aprons that might be made from previously worn-out dresses or skirts. For an upper-middle-class lady, who probably took care of her own children and house to a large extent (her husband was off at war) , would that be the case, or would she have worn a newer apron (i.e. white or a solid color; cotton or linen)? Were all aprons the pinner aprons? That's what I can find--either those or just the skirt aprons that tied in back. Safety pins were invented in about 1849, were they using those for aprons? 5. I am not planning to wear hoops, although most of the photos of the time time seem to imply them, i.e. full, wide skirts. Once the war was really underway, and there was starting to be some early financial hardships--were the hoops scrapped in favor of petticoats? Doubtless I will have more questions, but these are the major ones as I dive in. I really want to create a persona here and be really accurate. Thanks for any help you can give. Yours in costuming, Lisa A ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Preparing an exhibition of historical garments
Might not be the look you want, but I purchased silver/gray blow up mannequins pretty cheaply when I needed to have forms to paint unitards when I did CATS. They ran small and of course they are squishable. Side Note: If you goggle inflatable mannequins, you get a few porn sites as well as other. If I remember correctly, I got mine from a Canadian shop that also sold Halloween costumes, but I could be remembering wrong. Kate -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:39 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Preparing an exhibition of historical garments The posts on dummies are reminding me to write this request. I am putting on an exhibition next year of 200-year old garments that are too small for the standard sized dummy/mannequin - I probably need ones the size of a thin 12-year old girl. Can you recommend anywhere online where I can purchase nice-looking foam dummies/mannequins for display of extant garments? I really want people to see the gowns in 3D instead of lying flat in boxes. I have purchased dummies in the past from http://www.tinnafashion.com but the shoulders and chests are too broad. Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume