Re: [h-cost] RIP: Catherine Linda Walton

2016-04-13 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I am sorry to hear this. Thank you for letting us know. I know the group hasn't 
been as active lately, but I will miss her posts.

Kate Pinner

Costume & Scenic Design

Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC

609-570-3584

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Catherine Walton [catherine.wal...@cherryfield.me.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:10 AM
To: Historical Costume
Cc: chris.rowl...@cherryfield.me.uk
Subject: [h-cost] RIP: Catherine Linda Walton

This is to let you know that my wife and member of this group Catherine
Linda Walton passed away on the 23rd March.  Her funeral is on the 14th
April.

The breast cancer, which she had about 30 years ago, came back and
spread.  By the time we realised there was nothing that could be done
but keep her comfortable.

She died at home, surrounded by her books, with me holding her hand.

I know that she really enjoyed being on this group.  Thank you and best
wishes to all of you.

Regards,

Chris Rowland - Catherine's husband.
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Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?

2015-12-17 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I'm here. Still like to see what's posted. I'm not on Facebook.

Kate Pinner

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Robin Netherton [ro...@netherton.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:31 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?

I'm here -- but my first post saying so (from an alternate address by mistake)
was rejected.


On 12/17/2015 12:17 AM, Carol Kocian wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is h-costume still going? I’m trying to change my e-mail address for it, but 
> the link below does not work.
>
> Thanks!
> -Carol
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Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?

2015-01-14 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I agree with LynnD..not enough time for Facebook

Kate Pinner

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609-570-3584

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Lynn Downward [lynndownw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:56 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?

I'm here. I have time for h-costume but not enough for Facebook.
LynnD

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.gov
wrote:

 Drat!  I'm not able to do Facebook.

 Ginni Morgan

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 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:35 PM
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 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?

 I think so. I believe many who used to come here regularly may have
 shifted to various Facebook groups--I know I have.

 Ann Wass







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 Sent: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 6:40 pm
 Subject: [h-cost] Anyone here?


 Hi, I haven't been getting any messages lately, until today-I got only one.
 Is the list especially quiet?

 Sharon Collier

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Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants

2013-03-21 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Seems to me that my daughter (27) and several students (college/high school) 
recently (in the past 2-3 years) was wearing 'floods'jeans cuffed up to the 
lower calf. 

Kate Pinner

Costume  Scenic Design

Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Rickard, Patty [ricka...@mountunion.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants

And let's not forget clam-diggers - similar to either capri pants or 
pedal-pushers, also from around the 1950s.
Patty

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of aqua...@patriot.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:07 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants

There was a short fad for knickers in the mid to late 1970s for women.
Gauchos were another one, loose pants that ended below the knee - sort of like 
a split skirt.
For both, you might wear them with a blouse and matching vest.

Culottes were a skirt/shorts combo, just above the knee. They might have a wide 
leg or a separate panel for the skirt effect. Sporty, I remember my mom wearing 
them for golfing.

Capri pants are high ankle or low calf length, and are currently fashionable, 
and were various times back as far as the 1950s. I think of Audrey Hepburn in 
them.

Pedal pushers were long-ish shorts, I think just below the knee? But a regular 
pants width, not flared and not gathered. I remember them from the 1960s, but 
could be earlier.

-Carol


 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Sybella mae...@gmail.com wrote:
 In the '80s people called pants that ended just below the knee
 knickers.

 Assuming you mean 1980s: I recall Capri pants for women,not knickers.

 Before that, they were peddle pushers. And I think there's at least
 one other name for them. Knee highs, maybe?  It seems every time
 they come back into fashion, they are called something else.

 Probably, pedal-pushers as that what my mom called the things they
 went bicycling in in the 1950s.

 Also, Knickers strikes me as something an early 20th c golfer or
 upperclass sport hunter (male) might wear.
 --cin
 Cynthia Barnes
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Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants

2013-03-20 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Another name, at least in southeast Virginia, was 'clam diggers'.

Kate Pinner

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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants

Bella - I won't tell if you won't tell that I actually had a pattern
very similar to this one. Like so many other fashionable items that I
thought would put me in the cool kid category, I didn't actually ever
make them...
http://momspatterns.com/inc/sdetail/95681

- Hope


On 3/20/13 5:11 PM, Sybella wrote:
 Honestly, it's something I'd rather not admit to so I'll trust you all to
 keep it a secret! ;)

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Re: [h-cost] University of NH exhibit

2013-01-28 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Ditto that for getting on the list.

Kate Pinner

Costume  Scenic Design

Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC

609-570-3584

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Lavolta Press [f...@lavoltapress.com]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 4:33 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] University of NH exhibit

So how can I get on the list to be notified about the book when it comes
out?

Fran
Lavolta Press
Books on historic clothing
www.lavoltapress.com
www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress


On 1/28/2013 12:24 PM, Astrida Schaeffer wrote:
 Hi everyone--

 I am subscribed to h-cost but have not been able to actually participate or 
 even lurk for a long time, so when Marjorie wrote to the museum at which the 
 exhibition I curated, Embellishments: Constructing Victorian Detail, is 
 currently showing I confess I had a total DOH!! moment. I should have let you 
 all know about it when it first opened! But the show is up through March 23 
 and as she wrote on my behalf, there will, at some point this year, be a book 
 related to the project. The book will be a blend of coffee table book and 
 how-to guide for making the kinds of embellishments on view. I will be 
 posting a link later this week to an overview of the exhibition, not just the 
 one rotating dress currently on the official museum web site. But in the 
 meantime, here are some teasers, I hope they post. And if any of you are in 
 the Durham, NH vicinity, I hope you come see the show!

 Best wishes to all of you,

 Astrida Schaeffer

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Re: [h-cost] Philly Metro Trip Advice

2012-08-21 Thread Kathryn Pinner
If you actually get into Philly, the Barnes museum just opened (re-opened after 
its move) on the Ben Franklin parkway. There must be a hundred Renoirs plus 
lots of other impressionists. An amazing collection.

Kate


From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
penn...@costumegallery.com [penn...@costumegallery.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:53 AM
To: h-costume
Subject: [h-cost] Philly Metro Trip Advice

We are taking a road trip to Philadelphia metro today and will be there till
Saturday morning. I am tagging along with my husband on a business trip.
I've been to Philly several times and haven't made specific plans to do
anything special. My husband wants to see Valley Forge.  I have been to the
whole Independence Hall bit, Franklin Museum, Franklin Mint Museum and
Mummers Museum.  I have looked at the Fine Arts Museum online and not really
interested in their present exhibit.   I am really trying to avoid massive
amounts of tourists and would like to explore areas closer to our hotel that
is near Valley Forge.



Is the American Bandstand restaurant still open?   Also wanting to eat some
real German food.not on the high end.  I was excited to go to a real mom 
pop German restaurant in Milwaukee and all we could find were high end ones.




Anyone have suggestions of places to go with links?  My best trips are
always unplanned.  I am excited to explore the metro a little deeper.



Penny Ladnier, owner

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Re: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern? my fav...

2012-06-19 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I have used this one a lot for theatre use. Goes together quickly. 


Kate Pinner

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Behalf Of Melody Watts
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:47 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern? my fav...

Since no one has answered this, I will get the ball rolling (so everyone who 
didn't answer can tell me what crap these patterns are,cause they are Big  3 
patterns  ) but I have used this one with success, McCalls M6143. It is a multi 
size pattern for kids and adults,has 4 American Heros in it Uncle Sam,Statue 
of Liberty, Tom Jefferson  and Abe Lincoln
 The Abe Lincoln pattern is a simple to put together Frock type coat ,that 
turns out quite well. I used this to make my then Teenage son a Black Frock 
coat as  featured on the main characters in the 1990's movie Tombstone. I 
used a havy canvas /slubby linen for a more Cowboy ,less Townie look. He 
still has it ,and he's 35. You can use better material,line it and add fancy 
buttons, It is simple and  not compliccated to use. 
McCalls's also offeres a  mens Civil war  Officers Jacket  M4745. Has 2 
vaariations.
Now, let the opionions begin...
melody



From: aqua...@patriot.net aqua...@patriot.net
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern?

Hello,

A friend just asked me, can anyone recommend a pattern for an American Civil 
War era frock coat?

Thank you!
-Carol

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[h-cost] NON-water soluble

2012-05-28 Thread Kathryn Pinner
That being said for white glue, try carpenters glue (the yellow stuff). 
Obviously not period, but they make one that is a bit flexible for furniture 
and once it dries, it pretty much stays dried.

Kate


From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Audrey Bergeron-Morin [audreybmo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 11:07 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] water soluble


 I believe Stiffy is essentially white glue.

 If it is white glue, then it won't dissolve.


The instructions I had said you could rewet and reshape - that was a while
ago, they might have changed the formulation since then.

White glue is not waterproof. If you soak it, it softens and you can scrape
it away.
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Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !

2012-05-16 Thread Kathryn Pinner
You can get Argo from Rose Brand Theatrical supplies
 http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=argo


Kate Pinner

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Behalf Of Bambi TBNL
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:20 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !

potato starch is stil available at grocerystores in the baking section or if 
you have a way to shop a kosher food place

 
Bambi (To be named later) TBNL


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 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Gr ... !
 
I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time
now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock
up on things when I find them!  I have to get around to ordering some Srgo
starch to try before the summer starching season.  My supermarket now
doesn't carry dyes, just color remover.

Katy

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote:


  Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant:

 Those *%$$!   bxstards at the   #@^$! supermarket have stopped
 stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant.
 You bxstards!

 -C.

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Re: [h-cost] starch recipe

2012-02-14 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Try Rose Brand. They sell Argo for starching drops.

http://www.rosebrand.com/product14/Argo-Starch.aspx?tid=2info=starch


From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Wicked Frau [wickedf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:30 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] starch recipe

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sta Flo is also available online.  As I was searching for it, I found this
 recipe.
 http://www.pinkyhasabrain.com/homemade-cleaning-recipes/homemade-liquid-starch-recipe/

 I especially like that it adds fragrance.

 Sg


 On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:23 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:


 I was wondering if someone carried it mail order--that looks like the
 stuff! Argo powdered starch.

 Ann Wass






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[h-cost] Buttonhole attachments; was beginner sewing machine

2012-02-08 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Would those old buttonhole attachments work on modern machines? If so, I'm 
going to try to find mine. 


Kate Pinner

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Lynn Downward
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:09 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine

Yes it did, and I couldn't figure out (then) why anyone would need a round 
buttonhole. Now I can think of several uses for it.
Lynn

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Rickard, Patty ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote:

 Was that the one that would actually do round buttonhole?
 Patty

 since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the nifty 
 buttonhole foot accessory. That was a wonder!
 Lynn


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[h-cost] OT- shop machines

2012-01-23 Thread Kathryn Pinner
 For those of you who run costume shops:
What do you recommend for teaching basic sewing skills? Machines that will 
stand up to student abuse? Basic machines and also sergers?


Kate Pinner


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Re: [h-cost] Movie Costume Question: McGonagall's Yule Ensemble

2011-09-16 Thread Kathryn Pinner
At one time, Joann's carried a white silk that was pin-tucked like that and 
silk takes dye. 


Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Sharon Henderson
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:14 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie Costume Question: McGonagall's Yule Ensemble

Hi everyone,

You are all the most amazing costume sleuths I have ever known!  The links and 
colour info are just wonderful, and all these details!  Wow!
 I promise I will post pics of the result.  I may try making the black gown 
too--watching Minerva lead the defense of Hogwarts was just stupendous, and 
that's where the large pic of her looking so intense comes from.  :)  Great 
that modern cameras can let us see so close as to determine the pattern on a 
solid colour like that!

For the over-gown, I think the pre-pintucked fabric can be gotten in stores in 
all sorts of colours but I have yet to see it in that close a match of shade.  
If I find a non-tucked fabric that looks like the colour closely enough, I'll 
bite the bullet and pintuck it myself as the lady did in that tutorial someone 
posted the other day.  I had not noticed all the close details (tailed collar 
and cuffs, thank you,
De!) so those pieces of info are a godsend.  I did order the dreadful costume 
cape (lol!) and noticed that the list of notions includes rigilene.  This is 
going to be a fun challenge!  :)

Thanks so much!  I think I will create a blog page for this project.

in huge appreciation,
Meli
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Re: [h-cost] Heavy underwear

2011-09-02 Thread Kathryn Pinner
How much did bustles weigh? 


Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Martha Kelly
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 2:38 PM
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Heavy underwear

My first thought was early 1850's, just before the hoop, as others have said.  
But I wonder if, pound for pound, the 1770's and thereabout might win.  Stays 
that were solidly boned and several layers thick were heavier than corsets, 
linen shifts were heavier than chemises, petticoats were worn under and over 
the panniers and some of these were quilted for warmth, and there was the 
separate pocket, often worn in pairs.  It might be a toss-up.
Though I'm still betting on mid-Victorian.

Martha

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Re: [h-cost] h-costume Directory

2011-08-09 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Raising hand ... me! I was in the directory. I still have mine. I think I 
joined in 1995. Mostly lurk and/or ask questions. You guys (or ya'll -- 
depending on if you are north or south of the Mason-Dixon line) know so much 
more than I.  I've learned a lot from you.

Kate Pinner


From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
penn...@costumegallery.com [penn...@costumegallery.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 1:27 AM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: [h-cost] h-costume Directory

Gosh, Carol...my directory is packed away.  I compiled the directory
sometime between 1997-1999.  I looked on all my master computer backups and
can't find it.  It might be backed up on a back-up tape (remember those) or
a floppy disk.  I can still use floppy disk on my master computer.  For some
reason I believe I printed it in 1998 when I ran the first online costume
ball.  I do readily available all the costume post cards that h-costumers
mailed me for my postcard wall quilt.

Who remembers being in the h-costume directory?

I guess the newbies must think we were crazy in the beginnings...but we had
a blast on h-costume.  Carol, I will never forget meeting you for the first
time in Williamsburg for the Quilt Fest.

Penny Ladnier, owner
The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history
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Re: [h-cost] Sewing Apps

2011-08-09 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Any apps for PCs for us non-Mac people?


From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
Becky Rautine [zearti...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 1:21 AM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing Apps

I visited the link posted and was so proud THAT IS MY DRAWING!! used on the 
Margo Anderson Tudor pattern. I like the program and may check it out. I know 
it would help keep up with the patterns I already have. Fabric, threads, trim 
and buttons all in one place. Thanks.

Sincerely,
Rebecca Rautine

 From: kim...@kimiko1.com
 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:33:47 -0700
 To: h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing Apps

 I have a Mac, on which I use Bento for a simple database program. On Bento, 
 one can create Templates, and I've created at least one for historical and 
 vintage patterns that I've shared on the Bento Templates area online.
 http://solutions.filemaker.com/database-templates/detail.jsp?serial=2551354
 I think it is outdated since I haven't updated to their latest version, but 
 it works for me. Bento can also be ported to an App for the iPhone, which I 
 will do as soon as I can find the iTunes card I bought for buying apps. I am 
 also keeping track of my embroidery supplies list on a similar template which 
 I've yet to upload.

 Also, there are old fashion print-outs to keep track of fabric  trim 
 swatches. I offer a few different types here:
 http://kimiko1.com/largesse.html
 I prefer to keep my fabric and trim swatches on a card, as I'd rather be able 
 to touch and see exactly what I have. While it would be nice to have them on 
 my iPhone, the colors change depending on what sort of light I took the photo 
 from. I also shop my own stash cards before I head out to buy whatever I 
 may be missing, and then I will take the cards with me in a folder, if I 
 really need to color match.

 Kimiko


 On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Franchesca wrote:

  I remember a thread about organizers for our computers for our stashes as
  well as an entire mailing list (or two) on this but I cannot find it now.
 
  Anyone have any PC programs that do all this?

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[h-cost] 1880's casual dress question

2011-07-04 Thread Kathryn Pinner
IIRC,  1879-80 is sort of between bustle periods.  What would a young English 
lady living on the coast of Cornwall be wearing?  I will be costuming Pirates 
of Penzance in January and am looking for some ideas of where to look. Fashion 
plates in Godey's and Harper's hardly seem the type of garment that young 
ladies would be wearing on the beach. Googling previous Pirates productions 
produces a wide range.  Of course I know that it is an operetta with a rather 
silly premise and costume designers can take great liberties, but I would love 
to have some idea of what might actually have been worn. Any pointers in the 
right direction will be greatly appreciated. I am more familiar with 18th 
cent.-early 19th c. and then very late 19th c. (Fran, which of your books 
covers this?)

Kate
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Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings

2011-07-01 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I would never have thought to look in Target. While one of the actors got them 
from his wife (a nurse), the other went to a medical supply house. I have no 
idea how expensive they are. But they seem to be able to fit various sizes - 
from short and quite stocky to tall.


Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A.
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 9:45 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings

They are hideously expensive, but are almost indestructible.  I think they are 
called compression socks, or some such, and they can be found in the travel 
section of places like Target and various pharmacies, or with the footcare 
section.


On 6/27/11 7:39 AM, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote:

I just did Amadeus and two of my actors showed up with those white  long 
socks/stockings/whatever they're called that hospitals use to keep your 
circulation going. They come up over the knee and are opaque and don't run. The 
actors (one was 5'-8, 300 lbs, and the other was 6'-3, 200 lbs.) said they were 
comfortable.

Kate


From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
stils...@netspace.net.au [stils...@netspace.net.au]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:46 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings

Depending upon how historically accurate you need to be, you may try some of 
the high-end erotic lingerie suppliers [Q or Queen size for larger cuts],

-C.


 in the Fall.  But I have not been able to find a source for those 
 white stockings.  I used some white knee socks once in Sound of Music 
 but they




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Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings

2011-06-27 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I just did Amadeus and two of my actors showed up with those white  long 
socks/stockings/whatever they're called that hospitals use to keep your 
circulation going. They come up over the knee and are opaque and don't run. The 
actors (one was 5'-8, 300 lbs, and the other was 6'-3, 200 lbs.) said they were 
comfortable.

Kate


From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of 
stils...@netspace.net.au [stils...@netspace.net.au]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:46 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Regency men's white stockings

Depending upon how historically accurate you need to be, you may try some of
the high-end erotic lingerie suppliers [Q or Queen size for larger cuts],

-C.


 in the Fall.  But I have not been able to find a source for those white
 stockings.  I used some white knee socks once in Sound of Music but they




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[h-cost] History of Costume text?

2011-03-10 Thread Kathryn Pinner
The powers that be at my community college (where I am a theatrical costume and 
set designer) have decided to start a Fashion Design and Merchandizing program 
(the push seems to be from the merchandizing/businesss side) and they are 
expecting me to teach the history of costume, basic sewing, and textiles. They 
seem to be leaning toward using books from Pearson  and the the text for 
costume history they are looking at is 'History of World Costume and Fashion' 
by Daniel Delis Hill. Anyone know this text and have a comment? (I suggested 
'Survey of Historic Costume' by Tortora  Eubanks -- don't know if they will 
listen to me).  Other texts they are looking at are 'The Sewing Book' by Alison 
Smith and 'Textiles' by Kadolph. Any comments?


Kate Pinner

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Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt

2011-02-17 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I think it's called illusion  net


Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Sheridan Pohl
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:03 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt


To narrow your search, look for Bellydance costume makers/suppliers. Belly 
covers would be a good search parameter. I have the name of the place I bought 
mine from at home somewhere - Sugar petals is another one - I'll look it up for 
you this evening when I get home.
 
Sheridan
 
 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:13:20 -0500
 From: audreybmo...@gmail.com
 To: h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: [h-cost] OT: skin tone mesh long sleeved shirt
 
 Good afternoon,
 
 This is slightly off topic, but at the moment my google seaching 
 skills are totally failing me. I'm trying to find a skin-tone mesh top 
 of the kind that would be worn with a stage costume; but I would 
 prefer a long-sleeved shirt (even better if it buttons at the crotch) 
 to buying fabric and having to sew it myself.
 
 Does such a thing exist? And if it does, where can I start looking? 
 Right now I find absolutely nothing and I simply can't believe that 
 nobody else has a need for something similar.
 
 Thank you!
 
 Audrey
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Re: [h-cost] Philly places to visit

2011-01-21 Thread Kathryn Pinner
 Check out the Philadelphia Art Museum. The Perlman building houses their 
costume/fashion section. They also have some Asian stuff and textile/fibre 
arts. Depends on your interest. They have some Elsa Schiaparelli and might be 
open to showing you stuff not on display if you contact them. The Peacock 
Male: Exuberance and Extremes in Masculine Dress opens tomorrow. And plan to 
come back for the  Roberto Capucci: Art into Fashion exhibit that opens in 
March. 

http://www.philamuseum.org/exhibitions/733.html

Philly also has a Textile museum and a small fabric district on 4th near South 
Street.  

Kate Pinner

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Behalf Of penn...@costumegallery.com
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 5:10 AM
To: h-costume
Subject: [h-cost] Philly places to visit

I am going to be in Philly Thursday and Friday next week.  Are there any museum 
exhibits that are fashion/costumes related that I should see?

 

Penny Ladnier, owner

The Costume Gallery Websites

 http://www.costumegallery.com www.costumegallery.com

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Re: [h-cost] vintage dress washing question

2011-01-13 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I have had good results with antique lace with Orvis -- it is a mild shampoo 
sold in feed/tack stores for washing horses.

Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Elizabeth H.
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:28 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] vintage dress washing question

OyxClean is really good at getting yellow stains out of white fabrics, 
especially perspiration stains and the grunge that gets around the neckline. 
Follow the directions on the container - I've always just let the item soak in 
water with the oxyclean overnight. It works really well on linen undergarments.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Ann Catelli elvestoor...@yahoo.com wrote:
 If the dress is strong enough to withstand getting wet, I'd start with yellow 
 laundry soap, the kind that comes in a bar.

 Work up a lather between your hands, rather than rubbing the bar on the 
 dress, using lukewarm water, and allow the dress to soak in the soapy water 
 for half an hour.
 Rinse with more lukewarm water, and see what you've got--changes, damage (I 
 hope not), etc.

 I have had some stains lift after a 24-soapy-soak, but don't start with that 
 extreme.

 Ann in CT

 --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Cynthia Corley cyncor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have an early 60s all cotton
 white lace dress that is yellowed with some staining/discoloration. 
 If it was a new garment I would wash it with some bleach, but I worry 
 it won't survive that treatment. Lemon juice? Peroxide? Any 
 suggestions? I apologize if this is an already-covered subject.
 Cynthia





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Re: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed!

2010-10-22 Thread Kathryn Pinner
And Euroboning? 


Kate Pinner

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Katy Bishop
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:44 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed!

I too want to know where else one can order a roll of boning tape or a gross or 
corset bones or great-gross of uncarded hooks and eyes?  Are there any other 
corset and dressmaking supply houses out there that sell larger amounts than 
by the yard?  Does farthingales do wholesale pricing?

I need a new roll of boning tape for 1/4 bones soon.

Katy

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Franchesca franchesca.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is so sad. Who else is left that provided what they did?

 Franchesca


 -Original Message-
 From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- 
 boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kimiko Small
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:30 PM
 To: Historical Costume
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed!

 Oh, that really sucks. Thanks for letting us know.
  Kimiko



 
 From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com
 Subject: [h-cost] Greenberg and Hammer closed!


 http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20100930/REAL_ESTATE/100939990h=
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Re: [h-cost] ping please?

2010-08-09 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I read it as Theatre 


Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of aqua...@patriot.net
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:57 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] ping please?

Probably Town House.

I'm here, not at the war! I've been scanning my historic sticking slides into 
electronic format.

-Carol


 On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Sharon Collier
 sha...@collierfam.comwrote:

 What's a TH?




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Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info..

2010-07-22 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Ron, Ginni,
Thank you  for all the info. I had noticed that some of the images I have seen 
do have the points in different relationship to the square (and some don't have 
the square at all), but just figured that the painter/embroiderer made the 
decision -- silly me. The skull, bones, coffin all refer to man's mortality, 
right? The eye refers to God? They don't denote rank? 
Even if I weren't doing Amadeus, I find this interesting.

Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Ron Carnegie
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:55 PM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info..

  Okay sorry to bore those not interested.  I checked on the below mentioned 
info.  Here in Virginia the rule is, if it is printed in our stuff it aint a 
secret!  And the information I am about to mention is printed.  The reasons for 
it are not.

All of this has to do with the placement of the square and compasses.  I 
imagine that many of your are familiar with the general shape with the 
compasses open, points downward, with the square placed with the angle 
downward.  The little point, that I really don't think will be visible to the 
audience anyway is this:

Entered Apprentice Degree- the square should be on top of the two points of the 
compasses

Fellowcraft (what the wiki is calling journeymen and perhaps some jurisdictions 
do)- the left point of the compasses should be under the square the right point 
over

Master- both points should be over the square

   I hope you understand what I mean.  It would be easier to depict in a 
picture.  If you look at the posts I sent, as I recall most importantly the two 
supposed Burn's aprons, you should see what I mean.


I'm your huckleberry

Ron Carnegie
r.carne...@verizon.net 

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Ron Carnegie
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:42 PM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info..

Hmmm ... there is a difference in some symbolism between the three degrees, but 
it is minor and I am not certain that I can tell you. Let me check my 
Presentation manual and see if it is in there, if it is I can share it with 
you, if it is not, then I can't.  That being said however, any of the secrets 
of masonry regarding recognition signs or ritual can easily be found online.  
If my jurisdiction regards it a secret however, I would be in violation of my 
obligation in sharing it with you or verifying your sources.




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Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info..

2010-07-21 Thread Kathryn Pinner
-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Melody Watts
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:11 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit of info..

The aprons have different symbols on it to designate the position of the member 
in the Temple (meeting room) The top Guy is called the Worshipful Master, 
then there is the Templar., the Tiler, etc,etc..
The Aprons are easy to read like rank insignia in the Armed forcesso the 
are different. They also have a Dress Apron for formal occasion,more lux 
fabric.
 This site :
 http://www.masonicformasons.com/Apron.html
 
Shows you the symbols close up and the title with it.
 
Mozarts would reflect his position in the Lodge. and his degree (numerical 
designation ,as tohow far you tested and passed the rites) Did you see if there 
is any art workof him wearing his Apron?
Hope this helps.
Melody


--- On Tue, 7/20/10, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote:


From: Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu
Subject: [h-cost] Masonic aprons
To: h-cost...@net.indra.com
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:01 PM


The frst time I sent this, I'm not sure it went thru, so I'm trying again.

Kate Pinner


In the 18th cent., would all the aprons in a Masonic Lodge be the same? Or 
would the individuals have different ones?  I ask because I'm doing Amadeus 
next year and the play calls for three of them.  There is a portrait of George 
Washington in an apron and it is different from what is supposed to be his 
Masononic apron, so he had at least two different ones. Should make all the 
aprons the same of should they be different? I don't want to cause great 
offence to any Masons in the audience, but I kind of like the idea of them 
being different. Any symbols I really shoudn't use?  Does anyone know what 
Mozart's apron really looked like?

Kate Pinner
Technical Coordinator
Kelsey Theatre
Mercer County College
609-570-3584

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[h-cost] Masonic aprons

2010-07-20 Thread Kathryn Pinner
The frst time I sent this, I'm not sure it went thru, so I'm trying again.

Kate Pinner


In the 18th cent., would all the aprons in a Masonic Lodge be the
same? Or would the individuals have different ones?  I ask because I'm
doing Amadeus next year and the play calls for three of them.  There
is a portrait of George Washington in an apron and it is different
from what is supposed to be his Masononic apron, so he had at least
two different ones. Should make all the aprons the same of should they
be different? I don't want to cause great offence to any Masons in the
audience, but I kind of like the idea of them being different. Any
symbols I really shoudn't use?  Does anyone know what Mozart's apron
really looked like?

Kate Pinner
Technical Coordinator
Kelsey Theatre
Mercer County College
609-570-3584

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Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons

2010-07-20 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Perceptive comment, thanks. I'll do that. 


Kate Pinner

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Lavolta Press
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:17 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons

I would suggest calling a local Masonic lodge. They may not have much historic 
knowledge. I've occasionally talked to members of religious orders who believe 
their habits have not changed since the order was founded, when that is 
definitely not the case. But your local modern Masons can tell you what is done 
now and what a modern Mason might consider offensive.

Fran
Lavolta Press
Books on historic costuming
www.lavoltapress.com




 In the 18th cent., would all the aprons in a Masonic Lodge be the
 same? Or would the individuals have different ones?

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[h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Thanks for all your input. I've used that technique for belt loops and tacking 
linings in place, but never knew the name bride, and also never thought to 
use it as a reinforcement. 
When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it would 
be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be worked 
more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash point catching 
the fabric?

Thanks again,
Kate

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Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:07 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc?

Well, not so much modern as English, given that bride is the French term
;-)


 The modern term would be a tailor's bar.


 In a message dated 30/06/2010 19:15:28 GMT Daylight Time, 
 h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes:

 In  Costume Close Up by Linda Baumgarten  John Watson on page 107 
 describing a late 18th century shirt neck opening, the authors state 
 A buttonhole-stitched bride is worked at the point to reinforce the 
 slashed opening.
 The bride appears to be a later replacement.
 I have never heard  of the term bride.  Anyone know this term?



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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Kathryn Pinner
That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower end of side 
seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs?

Kate


 When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it 
 would be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be 
 worked more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash 
 point catching the fabric?

 Thanks again,
 Kate

I do both.  I buttonhole stitch around the point of the slit, and then make 
a bride about a 1/4 inch up from the slit.

Carmen 

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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Kathryn Pinner
 
I've put little gussets there, but like the idea of a bride better. Thanks!

Kate

 That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower 
 end of side seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs?

 Kate

Usually not the cuffs, unless the person I'm sewing for puts a lot of stress on 
that seam, but certainly on the side slits.

Carmen 

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[h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc?

2010-06-29 Thread Kathryn Pinner
 
In Costume Close Up by Linda Baumgarten  John Watson on page 107 describing 
a late 18th century shirt neck opening, the authors state A 
buttonhole-stitched bride is worked at the point to reinforce the slashed 
opening. The bride appears to be a later replacement.
I have never heard of the term bride.  Anyone know this term?

Kate Pinner
Costume Designer
Kelsey Theatre
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Re: [h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc?

2010-06-29 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Thanks.  Where might I find an image? 

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 In Costume Close Up by Linda Baumgarten  John Watson on page 107 
 describing a late 18th century shirt neck opening, the authors state 
 A buttonhole-stitched bride is worked at the point to reinforce the 
 slashed opening. The bride appears to be a later replacement.
 I have never heard of the term bride.  Anyone know this term?

 Kate Pinner

It's a needlelace or cutwork term, referring to the buttonhole bars joining 
more solid areas.  They're also used to reinforce slits.

Carmen 

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[h-cost] Late 18 century questions

2010-06-14 Thread Kathryn Pinner
I am gearing up for a production of Amadeus next year and have several 
questions. For those who might not know the show, it takes place in Vienna 
1780-1791, with very brief bits of 1823.

Starting with the men's shirts: How different from 1860's? I assume the body 
area is basically the same (right?), but the collar/neck band changes? Cuffs? 
Always white? Ruffles and laces on the stock?

Wigs: Powdered white for scenes at the Emperor Joseph's court, but natural hair 
-- long and pulled into ponytail for men; done up high but not necessarily 
powdered for women -- for non-court scenes, right? 

Men: Waistcoats/vests are about hip length by now, not down to thigh?  Right? 
And the coats are curving to the back? Were any men wearing a coat that has a 
90(or near 90)degree angle at the front lower edge? Emperor Joseph was German, 
Salieri was Italian, Mozart was influenced by German, French and Italian. What 
were the differnces in fashion in these three countries? 

Women: Same kind of question - would French influence have dominated? Would the 
women still be wearing panniers at this time?

The director really wants to incorporate some wild touches to Mozart (he was 
sort of the 18th century equivilant to a punk rocker) so any references to 
outlandish fashion styles would be good. The director wants to have a pink or 
blue streak in his powdered wig, for example.

Good online images/sources would be fast and easy, but ILL can get me some 
books as well.  Any and all recommendations will be appreciated.

Thanks!

Kate Pinner
 
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Re: [h-cost] early Civil War women's dress - side note safety pins

2010-06-07 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Just an 'aside' -- Although the moern safety pin might have been invented 
around 1845, the Princeton Art Museum has a safety pin in their ancient Greek 
and Roman collection.

Kate Pinner

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Subject: [h-cost] Query RE: early Civil War women's dress

Hello to everyone, I have newly subscribed, and hope you can help with some 
little detail-oriented question I have about dress for an approx.
1861 upper-middle-class women's dress:  (She lived in New England).  I 
appreciate in advance your help--you were all EXTREMELY helpful about 6 years 
ago, when I reproduced my great-grandmother's dress from a family photo.  The 
final product was amazing.  This time I am trying to re-create a historical 
character.  I chose a bodice with bishop sleeves and a very full skirt.  Lots 
of petticoats.  An apron.  The fabric is a 100% cotton that is a medium size 
print in a base of navy/indigo blue, with small white circles surrounded by 
smaller green crescents and tiny white dots in a a diagonal pattern.  
.
Anyway, here are my first questions about the 1861 lady:
 
1.  Were side front closures the most common?  and was it usually  the left or 
the right side?
 
2.  What about pockets?  I cannot find any references or photos  that show 
skirts had pockets--were they still using a little pouch  tied at the waist 
under the dress? Is it reasonable to design a watch pocket in the skirt?

3.  What kind of hose would they usually wear?  Above or below the knee? 
(and Im referring to daily wear, not formal)  and how was it held on?--would 
she have worn silk or cotton (even though cotton, by that time, may well have 
been becoming harder to obtain).  Can you suggest a reference for making the 
garters?

4.  I have some references that women (of working classes at  least) would have 
had aprons that might be made from previously worn-out  dresses or skirts.  For 
an upper-middle-class lady, who probably took care of  her own children and 
house to a large extent (her husband was off at war) , would that be the case, 
or would she have  worn a newer apron (i.e. white or a solid color; cotton or 
linen)?  Were all aprons the  pinner
aprons?  That's what I can find--either those or just the skirt  aprons that 
tied in back.  Safety pins were invented in about 1849, were they using those 
for aprons?

5.  I am not planning to wear hoops, although most of the photos  of the time 
time seem to imply them, i.e. full, wide skirts.  Once the war was really 
underway, and there was starting to be some early financial hardships--were the 
hoops scrapped in favor of petticoats?

Doubtless I will have more questions, but these are the major ones  as I dive 
in.  I really want to create a persona here and be really  accurate.
 
Thanks for any help you can give.
 
Yours in costuming, Lisa A
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Re: [h-cost] Preparing an exhibition of historical garments

2010-05-29 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Might not be the look you want, but I purchased silver/gray blow up mannequins 
pretty cheaply when I needed to have forms to paint unitards when I did CATS. 
They ran small and of course they are squishable. Side Note: If you goggle 
inflatable mannequins, you get a few porn sites as well as other. If I remember 
correctly, I got mine from a Canadian shop that also sold Halloween costumes, 
but I could be remembering wrong.

Kate 

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Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:39 AM
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Subject: [h-cost] Preparing an exhibition of historical garments

The posts on dummies are reminding me to write this request.
I am putting on an exhibition next year of 200-year old garments that are too 
small for the standard sized dummy/mannequin - I probably need ones the size of 
a thin 12-year old girl. Can you recommend anywhere online where I can purchase 
nice-looking foam dummies/mannequins for display of extant garments? I really 
want people to see the gowns in 3D instead of lying flat in boxes. I have 
purchased dummies in the past from http://www.tinnafashion.com but the 
shoulders and chests are too broad.
Bye for now,

Aylwen
Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy
http://www.earthlydelights.com.au
Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au
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