Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu 12.04 release party
Sounds fun. According to google maps it's going to take 3mins to walk there from my new abode* :-) (A relocated) Adrian * Time taken to get home again is left as an exercise for the reader, however I hear that Brownian motion makes a good case study. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] LUG equipment
I need a willing (or not so willing, I'm not picky) volunteer to look after a box of LUG equipment - mainly printer, firewall, cables. It's just the one box (it's compresssed over the years as things have become obsolete). I'm finally moving out of Hampshire to the big smoke as an opportunity to enter the world of web scale and big data has arisen. Sadly it's also the world of small expensive places to rent so I won't be able to look after it any more I'm afraid. *Freecycle/Freegle is _great_ for disposing of things without resorting to a skip. Adrian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] FOSDEM?
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 00:30:06 + (+), Andy Smith wrote: Hello, Anyone planning to go to FOSDEM in February 2011? Definitely looking at it yes, missed last year. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Saturday Meeting
Great news, and a big thanks to Ashwin! Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] LVM Unmounting
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 18:10:51 +0100 (+0100), Hugo Mills wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 06:01:36PM +0100, Samuel Penn wrote: Hi all, Quick LVM question - is it necessary to unmount an ext3 partition before growing it? No. resize2fs will do online resizing for you. FYI on redhat you need resize4fs if it's an ext4 volume, resize2fs for ext2 or ext3. Dunno why they needed a new binary - Debian works using resize2fs for both. lvresize -L +1G /dev/rootvg/varlv resize2fs /dev/rootvg/varlv Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HantsLUG equipment
Thanks Ashwin, I'll be bringing the kit anyway, probably worth a quick look. Thinking about it a bit more, IIRC the floor port has (finally) been disabled so we are probably looking at trying to figure out a way to plug the firewall into the wireless network instead of the wired one for the kit in soton to be much use. Thanks and see you tomorrow, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] HantsLUG equipment
Is someone able to help look after the LUG equipment as I'm finding it hard to make the meetings sometimes and I'm looking at moving up the M3 even further in a while. We've looked at splitting the equipment in two before: - network bits + printer - more network bits (backup in case the first person can't make it) The main stuff fits into one plastic box - if someone could be caretaker of that it would be a huge help. It's really just Southampton meetings where it's required. Rather short notice I'm afraid - this Saturday is a case in point - I can only stay until early afternoon. Ashwin - I don't suppose there is a bit of room at the university where we could stash some of these bits? Many thanks, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] What would you do, faced with the following advice re Ubuntu
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 17:42:57 +0100 (+0100), Lisi wrote: [snip] Incidentally, so far, the course is a little disappointing. The first week's work is actually wrong in some of its facts. E.g., Ubuntu shadows Debian Stable's six monthly release, and is released about a month after it. I kid you not. They really said that. :-( And one page is clearly quoting some of Microsoft's more inaccurate FUD. :-( I suspect someone got their facts a little wrong here - Ubuntu shadows Debian unstable or testing not stable. But they do resync from it every six months. More details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Website down
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:47:35 +0100 (+0100), Tony Whitmore wrote: Hi all, Sorry for the general mail, not sure who the hostmaster is these days. The website seems to have been down since yesterday and isn't responding to SSH either. That'll be me (once again). It had OOMed (out of memory), I've restarted it, I'll add it to my monitoring list and dig a bit deeper later. Thanks, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HP servers and Debian
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:17:10 +0100 (+0100), Hugo Mills wrote: [snip] If that's the case, then you're *far* better off ditching the Onboard RAID and using Linux's software RAID implementation, which is rather better tested. Yes, I can second that from personal experience. Namely when it breaks badly and you end up doing really _evil_ things to get it working again (not least since at the time Linux couldn't rebuild a broken BIOS raid array). Background reading for the interested: http://www.smop.co.uk/blog/index.php/2007/04/01/fakeraid-avoid/ Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Open source network backup with de-dupe.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:15:23 +0100 (+0100), James Courtier-Dutton wrote: I've come to the conclusion that there aren't any decent open source backup products. Yes, I do actually have it on my todo list to write [snip] So, in summary, it is not good enough to replace the system currently at my customer's that cost over £10 ! There's a good reason they can charge 100K :-) VSS and other snapshotting technologies (particularly those built into decent storage arrays) are the way forward if you can afford it. Being able to take snapshots every few minutes and sync them to a remote datacentre really is rather nice :D See also continuous data protection. TBH my personal attitude is that snapshots are great for box restores, file level are good for digging out a single file. Good sysadmin practice should almost remove the need to ever use backups in enterprise environemnts. Testing on pre-production environments then rolling out onto production boxes (or flip-flopping environments where you clone A to B, upgrade B, then flip the service over to B) works a treat. Backups then become emergency only oh crap, we've been hacked and/or database is corrupted and it's an issue of how much loss of data you can afford time wise. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Open source network backup with de-dupe.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 21:11:25 +0100 (+0100), Keith Edmunds wrote: However, Chris is right: you cannot *know* that two files are the same unless you compare them, byte by byte. If hashes are good enough for you, just backup the hashes and save lots of time and diskspace! My understanding on this point is that in fact a hash _is_ good enough - or rather the odds of a hash not being good enough are sufficiently low (cf corruption on hard disks etc) that it's irrevevant. For instance see: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=122945 Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] On-line Banking (Not entirely O.T.)
tac will do this BTW. (tac = cat spelt backwards. I don't think any Unix wizards will ever win a comedy award, except perhaps Randall Munroe (of xkcd.com fame)). Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] ubuntu updates
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 14:25:02 +0100 (+0100), James Courtier-Dutton wrote: I find apt-cacher-ng easier to configure. It also has the advantage that it works with debian and ubuntu machines simultaneously which IIRC apt-cacher didn't. Recommended. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Open source network backup with de-dupe.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 19:45:00 +0100 (+0100), Keith Edmunds wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:25:10 +0100, james.dut...@gmail.com said: Does anyone know of any open source backup programs that do de-dupe for the express purposes of reducing traffic over the WAN. BackupPC. Recommended. Snap :-) + dedupes between backups and across boxes + nice gui - file layout is sadly not rsyncable from the raw FS I've come to the conclusion that there aren't any decent open source backup products. Yes, I do actually have it on my todo list to write one :-) PS: hantslug.org.uk is backed up using backuppc Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Fwd: [lugmaster] Fwd: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu in Business - London, July 13th [a...@popey.com]
Maybe of interest to some people - Forwarded message from Alan Pope a...@popey.com - Subject: [lugmaster] Fwd: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu in Business - London, July 13th From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:25:51 +0100 To: LUGMaster lugmas...@mailman.lug.org.uk Hi All, I realise the event below is in London and many (most) of you are far from it, and many of you are anti-Ubuntu and pro-$distro, but if you wouldn't mind passing this on to your LUGs I'd really appreciate it. It's all described in the mail below, and the event sign up page:- http://bit.ly/UbuntuBusiness Thanks, Al. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com Date: 9 June 2010 10:10 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu in Business - London, July 13th To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com Hi all, One of the LoCo events that we have been talking about and planning for a while is a event with a more businesslike feel to it, something where I should be getting up in the morning and not wondering should I wear a Tshirt from ThinkGeek or one from shop.ubuntu.com?, but should I wear a tie?. We have a great venue provided by James selinuxium Thomas, Canonical have kindly offered to meet the cost of some nibbles and we have a really strong lineup of speakers and demos. Registration opens today at http://bit.ly/UbuntuBusiness and as this is about introducing Ubuntu to new people please bring someone from work along with you, perhaps the boss, perhaps someone who works in IT and hasn't yet had an opportunity to use Ubuntu. Finally, please spread the word about this. Alan. The Ubuntu UK community and Canonical, the commercial sponsors of Ubuntu, would like to invite you to a very different type of IT event. The Ubuntu operating system for the desktop and server has made significant inroads into UK businesses over the last 5 years. Often it is driven there by the enthusiasm of individuals from the community who use Ubuntu for their personal computing and see the advantages it can bring to the workplace. This event gives those advocates an opportunity to introduce their colleagues to Ubuntu, Canonical, Partners, community experts and their fellow IT professionals. Attendees will learn how Ubuntu is being deployed in the UK and discover how they can introduce or extend this technology safely and effectively within their organisation. All are welcome, but if you already count yourself as an Ubuntu user, please drag along a colleague who has yet to see the light! *1pm - Welcome * An introduction to Ubuntu and our community. *1.20 - Ubuntu in action* A selection of case studies of companies using Ubuntu to enhance their business. */Oxford Archaeology/* Chris Puttick, Chief Information Officer, will explain how one of the largest independent archaeology and heritage practices in Europe, with over 400 specialist staff, took the strategic decision to adopt an open source infrastructure with Ubuntu at the heart of it. */Emphony Technologies/* A start-up software company producing engineering project management and workflow tools for decided to deploy Ubuntu as its infrastructure, find out how they got on and their plans for the future. *1.40 - Open Mic* Ubuntu partners and community members (perhaps including you!) tell us how they use Ubuntu in a business context. There will be 5 minute slots with strict timekeeping! *2.15 - Demonstrations, food and networking* Grab some nibbles and see a selection of demonstrations and hands on workshops featuring: * Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (Amazon EC2 compatible cloud computing wherever you want it) * Landscape Systems Management for Ubuntu * Ubuntu Server Edition * Social Media for the workplace with Wordpress and Ubuntu * Quick, cheap, easy, low-risk and fun ways to get started with Ubuntu * Ingres, an enterprise class open source database * Alfresco document and content management *4.00 - Ubuntu Advantage* The new services from Canonical designed to give your business an edge in its open source strategy. *4.15 - Panel Discussion* A panel with members drawn from Canonical, partners and the community chaired by author and journalist Glyn Moody http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyn_Moody and loosely following the theme of The Benefits and Pitfalls of an Open Source Strategy. *5.00 - Late* Attendees are encouraged to stay on, sample an Ubuntini https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntini?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=ubuntini_card_final.jpg at the bar, have a chat and enjoy the comedy night http://www.thebrickhouse.co.uk/london/events/comedytuesdays.asphosted by the venue itself. -- ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ ___ lugmaster mailing list lugmas...@mailman.lug.org.uk https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/lugmaster - End forwarded message - Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert
Re: [Hampshire] Escape characters with man | grep
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:35:20 +0100 (+0100), Owain Clarke wrote: I'm sure this is an easy one for you:- If I want to read a line from a man page with a character which needs escaping, how do I do it? For example, to read the -r option of rsync:- man rsync | grep -r produces no output, presumably because the - needs escaping. It doesn't need escaping per-se (it's not a protected character - e.g. grep '-r' won't work either. It's being interpreted as please work recursively. As kish/krisk/Esse (sorry, couldn't figure out which was your name!!) suggests, using a backslash works as it then passes \-r into grep. However the easiest trick is that most programs will interpret -- as end of all options. So you can use grep -- -r. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] ClamAV not running?
FWIW I had issues yesterday (even though I'm using volatile - although I was a version down). I upgraded clam and then it failed to start, kicked the clamav extra updates crontab I have (which pulls in extra lists for email de-spamming) and then it was happy. I think the crontab had not been running due to lack of a newline in it (now fixed). Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] 32- or 64-bit distro?
I run 64-bit and have no problems. However, what are you going to gain? Unless you run a large database or something just stick with 32-bit (which is a darn sight more memory efficient too - all my VMs are 32-bit and they run in much less RAM than the 64-bit ones). FWIW I ran 64-bit because I wanted to _hit_ issues before they hit a server :-) Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] What do *you* put in /etc/hostname on Debian?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 05:07:15 + (+), Andy Smith wrote: For those of you adminstering Debian or Ubuntu, given a FQDN of foo.example.com, what would *you* put in the /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts and /etc/mailname files? /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 foo.example.com foo /etc/mailname: foo.example.com /etc/hostname: foo I've seen some apps make bad assumptions (e.g. they bind to the IP in question). My personal solution (given that shooting the developers maybe out of the question) is to use service names (which is always a good idea). NB: hostname has _nothing_ to do with IP or DNS. It's a (hopefully unique) hostname, that's it. If it came to the desired FQDN being example.com though, then it would be more like: I think that's a bad idea and asking for trouble later. I'd always have a proper name - foo.example.com. If you want it to act as a web/email server for example.com, great - do that in the web/email config. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 21:03:22 +0100 (+0100), Daniel Pope wrote: Hi all, Since the meagre feedback that there was to the wiki migration was universally positive, I have pushed ahead and switched the site to MoinMoin. Cool, many many thanks for this. A small step for Dan, a giant leap for Wiki kind :-) Houston we no longer have a problem. This removes the most non-standard thing we run for a far nice wiki. I know that the horrible HTML code generated by abusemod wiki (which we used to use) annoyed a few people too. (Blame the Apollo 13 book I'm currently reading). Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] wierd group issue
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:43:33 + (+), Michael-John Turner wrote: How are you calling lurker? /etc/aliases contains: lurker-hants: |/usr/bin/lurker-index -l hampshire -m (well it contains a wrapper ATM so that I can debug it :-)) I've not used Exim in nigh on ten years, but a cursory glance at the filter documentation suggests that by default it doesn't honour secondary group membership when executing filters: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/filter.html (search for secondary). Could this be the problem? Ooh, nice spot. That eventually resulted in: http://www.exim.org/lurker/message/20070519.160339.5e5227a2.ja.html So it looks like if exim is run as root, then initgroups() is run which sets up secondary groups, otherwise it's not and they aren't. Many thanks :-) I've learnt a new syscall today, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Smartphones with keyboards
One that hasn't been mentioned is the Motorola Droid (or Milestone in Europe). Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] hants.lug.org.uk upgrade
Just a heads up, I'm feeling brave^W foolhardy^W bored. So I may well be upgrading the hantslug box this evening (etch to lenny). I wonder what will break I'll prepare some kit-kats just in case. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] wierd group issue
I've just been banging my head against lurker (mailing list program we use on hantslug) as it had stopped working. I've diagnosed what's wrong, but have very little clue as to _why_. The box runs exim as a mailserver and that runs as the Debian-exim user: $ id Debian-exim uid=102(Debian-exim) gid=102(Debian-exim) groups=102(Debian-exim),105(lurker),106(greylist) After the upgrade and reboot (no nscd installed BTW), we had this lurker issue so I shoved this little naff wrapper around the process: ps -ef /tmp/apb.$$ /usr/bin/id /tmp/apb.$$ strace -f -o /tmp/strace.$$ /usr/bin/lurker-index $@ This shows: * exim and this process running as Debian-exim * id reports uid=102(Debian-exim) gid=102(Debian-exim) ** what on earth happened to the other groups! * strace shows permission denied (see above) How on earth is it dropping those other groups? The only thing I can think of is that exim's use of setgid/setpgid is doing it. I'll certainly admit that reading those manpages can get your head in a twist so I wondered if anyone can shine a light on it? I've just dug out my copy of Stevens and it says (bottom of P241): The supplementary group IDs are not affected by setgid, setregid or setegid. $ grep et exim.strace |grep id |grep -v pid 11552 geteuid32() = 102 11552 geteuid32() = 0 11552 getuid32()= 102 11552 getgid32()= 102 11552 getegid32() = 102 11552 geteuid32() = 0 11552 geteuid32() = 0 11552 getegid32() = 102 11552 setgid32(102) = 0 11552 setuid32(0) = 0 11552 setgid32(102) = 0 11553 geteuid32() = 0 11553 getegid32() = 102 11553 setgid32(102) = 0 11553 setuid32(102) = 0 11554 setpgid(0, 0) = 0 11554 getuid32()= 102 11554 getgid32()= 102 11554 geteuid32() = 102 11554 getegid32() = 102 11555 geteuid32() = 102 11557 geteuid32() = 102 11557 getuid32()= 102 11557 getegid32() = 102 11557 getgid32()= 102 11558 geteuid32() = 102 11558 getuid32()= 102 11558 getegid32() = 102 11558 getgid32()= 102 11559 geteuid32() = 102 11559 getuid32()= 102 11559 getegid32() = 102 11559 getgid32()= 102 11561 geteuid32() = 102 11561 getuid32()= 102 11561 getegid32() = 102 11561 getgid32()= 102 11562 geteuid32() = 102 11562 getuid32()= 102 11562 getegid32() = 102 11562 getgid32()= 102 11563 getuid32()= 102 11563 getgid32()= 102 11563 geteuid32() = 102 11563 getuid32()= 102 11563 geteuid32() = 102 11563 getuid32()= 102 11552 geteuid32() = 0 11552 getegid32() = 102 11552 setgid32(102) = 0 11552 setuid32(102) = 0 Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] wierd group issue
a weird one too. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Playing music in my living room
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 16:15:42 + (+), Chris Smith wrote: I use a Roku/Pinnacle SoundBridge (which I bought after watching someone demonstrate it at a HantsLUG talk). It doesn't have a hard-disk, but does most of what you want. That'll be me :-) I'm still happy with mine and use it all the time, it doesn't support ogg (other than by transcoding) and it now quite old in the tooth but it was a bargain at the time (£40 according to my blog) looks like £50 is normal now - I think for that money you should be able to find something better. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Off-site backup with Amazon S3
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 16:16:31 + (+), Philip Stubbs wrote: Has anybody else tried this? what has been the results? Are there any simple and competitive alternatives? Nope, but depending upon your requirements, there was a FUSE plugin which turned gmail storage quota into filesystem Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] web script suggestions
NB: I'm not after starting a my language is better than yours flamewar! I need to write a small web script (basically a simple front end to populating an LDAP database). Normally I'd do this in Perl (and CGI library) because of PHP's pretty horrific security record, however I think it's time I took a fresh look to see what to use for the next N years. I'd like to write it in Ruby if possible, or Python as a second choice (sorry Adam). I don't really want a huge massive framework with all the hassle that involves - really I'm after a use ... library. For example looking at Ruby, there is a CGI library which allows you to perform the usual set/get forms helpers I want. There is also eruby to assist with the templates, however integrating the two seems a bit yucky. Using ERB seems perhaps slightly easier. Rails is just way too much framework for me. I probably want to end up with something similar to: - script which has the controller logic in it and displays one of two templates - template with the form in it - template with the result in it Thanks for any advice/suggestions. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] SPF Best Practice
Nice post from Martin, so in summary: - publishing your SPF records will help others to drop spam claiming to be from you - and _may_ avoid some backscatter (OTOH the servers backscattering are unlikely to use SPF...) - looking up SPF records will help you to avoid some spam - but _never_ assume an SPF validated email is not-spam There is also DomainKeys/DKIM you may wish to look at which seems to have its own set of issues. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Any Debian developers at Febs meeting?
If there are any Debian developers who wouldn't mind signing my GPG key I'd really appreciate it. It's a tad frustrating not being able to contribute (long story). Cheers, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Any Debian developers at Febs meeting?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:02:20 + (+), Simon Huggins wrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:40:17AM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote: If there are any Debian developers who wouldn't mind signing my GPG key I'd really appreciate it. It's a tad frustrating not being able to contribute (long story). Sure, where are you based? I live in Reading. Basingstoke but I nip up to Reading from time to time anyhow. If you happen to be going to the meeting at Hursley it would make sense to do it there, but otherwise I'm more than happy to pop up when it's convenient. Cheers, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] blank CD cases if anyone wants them
I've 600 spare blank CD cases if anyone would like some on Saturday just shout. Packs of 25 (or 100). My old (old old) employer was throwing them out as the version of their software on it was outdated. I might try Freeagle in a while thinking about it. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Duplex unit for HP 3100,3200,3300,8200 printer
I forgot who kindly donated this to the LUG, however it should be for a HP 3100,3200,3300,8200 printer IIRC. part number is SG79C210NH If you let me know before Saturday I'll bring it along. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] 06 February at IBM Hursley
I could be tempted to do a talk, I'll have to see if I manage to find the time to write one :) Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] OT [tech] result of overloading memory slots?
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 13:15:17 + (+), Simon Reap wrote: Lisi wrote: Put otherwise, could too much RAM fry the mobo, and could it not do so until the second boot up after installation? Have a look on crucial.com. There are various issues here - including electrical - e.g. you can have a limit on the number (or location) of dual-stacked DIMMs (where chips are piggy-backed). At the end of the day all computers are electrical and running things out of spec can fry things. Good quality stuff obviously helps there. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] CAcert assurers at Saturdays meeting?
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 14:37:05 + (+), Imran Chaudhry wrote: Will there be any CA cert assurers at Saturdays meeting? At the last meeting, Tony and Ciemon assured me (I think I gave details to Hugo who has yet to assure me). I need another 15 points before I can create 2-year certs. Eventually I'd like to become an assurer myself. Yep, I'm one. I have to say though, I've lost all faith in CAcert's ability to execute. Getting a cert from trustico is cheap, from star-ssl (IIRC) they are free (and in browsers unlike self-signed ones). So a major reason for me (avoiding paying astronomical fees to Verislime) has gone. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] wiki updating (or not)
Sorted - it was matching a blacklisted word (dating FWIW). Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] wiki updating (or not)
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 09:37:29 + (+), Victor Churchill wrote: 2010/1/6 Adrian Bridgett adr...@smop.co.uk: Sorted - it was matching a blacklisted word (dating FWIW). .. that would be as in Chapter 3: Monitoring and Updating...! Oh my. Not terribly impressive is it! Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] wiki updating (or not)
If you could tell use the time/date (and preferably IP) that you are trying from then we can probably have a look in the logs. I suspect you maybe accidentally hitting a blacklisted word. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] wiki updating (or not)
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 21:11:13 + (+), Victor Churchill wrote: [snip Thanks, you don't _appear_ to be triggering anything that I can see so I'm a bit confused. I've added a bit more debug to the wiki. If it fails would you mind sending me the text you were trying to change it to and I'll see if I can suss what's happening. [1] http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=historyid=BookReviews/LinuxSystemAdministrationRecipes I saw the change to ? and almost added a ! earlier today for amusement value :-) Thanks for offering to take a look. I wonder what the word or phrase I used was (it's not a glowing review but I didn't think I was being /that/ rude... ;-) lol Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Expert Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Apache web root permissions
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:47:28 + (+), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: I have a site running drupal. The apache user therefore needs to be able to write certain files (CSS files for example). Hmm - I don't need much for my drupal install FWIW - just files. Install of my (updated Drupal 6.14 packages for Ubuntu 8.04 from my site at http://bitcube.co.uk/content/packages) hence www-data not apache. $ find /usr/share/drupal6/ ! -user root (nothing) $ ls -l /usr/share/drupal6/sites/default/ total 16 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36 2009-03-26 10:24 baseurl.php -rw-r- 1 root www-data 536 2009-09-21 21:20 dbconfig.php lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2009-03-26 09:48 files - /var/lib/drupal6/files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6131 2009-03-26 09:19 settings.php ls -l /var/lib/drupal6/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-03-01 18:06 backups drwxr-x--- 6 www-data www-data 4096 2009-09-16 18:23 files I also have a directory under my web root which is a SAN mount, to which apache must be able to write. What is the most secure way to implement this? I am thinking: chown -R root:apache /var/www/html chmod -R 0750 /var/www/html chown apache:apache for where need to write Seems sensible to me - files owned by root as far as possible so any apache process can't change them, then apache where you need it. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Weird output from 'top'
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 17:51:39 + (+), Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: [snip] Yes, it is dual-core. I know about top 1 for per-core stats, but I thought I read somewhere that the '%CPU' per-process column was an amalgamation of the two - can't find the reference now, of course! It's not a standard across all the Unixes I believe so you may have seen it on another (AIX/Solaris/HPUX are the main three I've worked with - I'd pick AIX as the one most likely to as a total CPU %). Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [Job] IMAP Proxy LDAP integration.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 17:20:01 + (+), Simon Capstick wrote: Hi, A small job: Has anyone had experience of setting up a (secure) IMAP proxy along with a public CA certificate? LDAP integration, along with setting up OpenLDAP to authenticate users would be a real bonus. IMAP proxy? What's the backend email storage? I use IMAP (dovecot) with Maildir storage personally. The box itself is all LDAP'd up so the local accounts are in reality LDAP ones. Dovecot also supports directly querying LDAP (including TLS goodness). Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Assistance required with kit for Nov meet
Ed Beckmann has kindly offered and since he's 10mins away that saves you a trip. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 21:22:05 +0100 (+0100), Ian Brazier wrote: Hi Adrian, I'll do it if no one closer volunteers. Ian On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 21:12 +0100, Adrian Bridgett wrote: I normally look after the LUG kit (firewall, network gear etc), however I have a prior arrangement for that weekend involving a big flaming thing (no, not vi vs emacs). Would someone mind taking the kit down that weekend and bringing it back - I can drop it off anytime before then. It's basically one large box. Thanks, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Easy user management in LDAP
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:23:14 +0100 (+0100), Samuel Penn wrote: What I really want to be able to do, is simply do the equivalent of useradd fred ... in OpenLDAP, without having to worry about LDAP schemas and the like. I don't mind configuring the server initially, but want the user management procedures themselves (add/list/delete/edit) to be nice and simple. I normally use phpldapadmin (or ldapvi for more global things). TBH I think running LDAP at home is generally more hassle than it's worth. Okay, so I do run LDAP at home, but that's since I use it as a test bed for doing LDAP work. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Easy user management in LDAP
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 16:24:50 + (+), Chris Dennis wrote: Is there anything else that will do a simple address book / contacts list that Thunderbird clients can share? Google? Seems to be best way to do things these days. I've found Thunderbird's support for LDAP (secured by TLS in particular) to have been sorely lacking in the past. Writing was also unsupported last I checked. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Intercepting shutdown
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:56:43 +0100 (+0100), Leo wrote: Does anyone know if there's a way to intercept, or hook into, gnome's shutdown procedure? Basically, my computer has a tv card and occasionally I forget it's recording the tv and shutdown. So what I'd like is to get gnome to call some script of mine to run some checks and tell me not to shutdown. Failing that is there a way I can do this with run-levels? I don't know of a nice elegant way, I suspect you'll need to have a program registed with the gnome-session somehow so that instead of it saay do you want to save? it can cancel the shutdown. As long as the recording isn't within the next few mins you could set the computer to wake up 5-15mins beforehand. I thought I'd tried this (unsuccessfully) by poking /proc/acpi/... but can't see how ATM. nvram-wakeup package might be handy. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [ADMIN] Assistance required with kit for Nov meet
I normally look after the LUG kit (firewall, network gear etc), however I have a prior arrangement for that weekend involving a big flaming thing (no, not vi vs emacs). Would someone mind taking the kit down that weekend and bringing it back - I can drop it off anytime before then. It's basically one large box. Thanks, Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Elections
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:43:07 +0100 (+0100), Hugo Mills wrote: GOs: Adrian Bridgett [snip] I'm sure they will announce their willingness or otherwise to stand for re-election. As long as I can still claim for that penguin house in the middle of my moat I'm in. If not I'll still stand :-) Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] computer bits giveaway
I'm having a bit of a clearout and will be freegle'ing these otherwise. If you want something, yell and I'll bring it to the meet on Saturday. DP17MO - 17 CRT Sun monitor (VGA) Deskjet 500 (no PSU!) Deskjet 600 (making a clunky noise ATM) Brother HL2070N (dies if you print within 5mins of being switched on) Duplex unix for HP 3100/3200/3300/8200 (Q5582A?) ATX case + PSU (#1) ATX case + PSU (#2) IDEQ Biostar 200V, 1.4GHz Athlon IIRC, PSU was a bit noisy when starting, then seemed to be a bit dodgy (causing crashes), not sure if PSU is completely dead now! Was a nice little server though. 52xCD-RW ATX 400MHz K6 IIRC, not opened her up, DVD-ROM Dell Optiplex G1 (400MHz PII, 192MB, CD-ROM) Compaq ENSeries SFF, 500MHz PIII, 256MB, 10GB disk 2x MA401 PCMCIA 802.11b wifi cards + PCI converters 4 port USB PCI card 2x256MB DDR some ancient EDO and possibly PC-133 memory Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Is my program detached?
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 13:28:02 +0100 (+0100), Stephen Pelc wrote: Under Kubuntu 9.04 at least, trying to open /dev/tty succeeds in both cases and fds 0,1,2 return true from isatty(). Similarly, ttyname() returns a name. Hmm, that was going to be my suggestion. Perhaps you could see whether FD0 was readable since normallly backgrounded apps block when they need STDIN. I still think isatty is wise check - e.g. if someone runs it from cron or somesuch. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Anyone used EclipseComputers or LambdaTek?
When only two parts of three turned up from Lambdatek, I was expecting a battle, but no, a human being went and sorted it out and explained where the foul up happened (which I always appreciate). So -1 + 1 = 0 for me. Unfortunately these days 0 is rather a good score since competency seems in such short supply. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] RHCE / RHCT
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 15:04:07 +0100 (+0100), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: I've been toying with the idea of getting Redhat certification. I did the pre-assessment questionaires and concluded that I was pretty close to being ready to take the RHCE exam immediately, but would benefit from the fast track course. Caveat - I last did them about 3/4 years ago... I did a couple of hours reading up on Redhatisms (since I normally use Debian). Found RHCT dead easy, RHCE fairly straightforward too. I was still nervous, but hey it is an exam :-) I think I'm goig to retake RHCE shortly (my old one was RH v3 and so lapsed a little while ago). Managed 100% on both last time, so it can only go badly in comparison this time! Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] High availability database
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 17:15:18 +0100 (+0100), Chris Simmonds wrote: One option I have considered is using, say, MySQL with one master node replicating to all the others and some mechanism to elect a new master if the original went down. But, that sounds messy. There must be a neater solution? MySQL + LinuxHA + DRBD is the typical solution. You could use MySQL with replication and failover (or even multi-master if you are brave). A proper clustered filesystem (e.g. OCFS2 ontop of DRBD8) maybe better. However be aware that all of these aren't simple configs and you really want to do thorough testing beforehand - I've seen some setups be incredibly brittle - so any theoretical improvement in uptime may in practice become a major drop. For example when I was looking at GFS last year: http://www.smop.co.uk/blog/index.php/2008/02/11/gfs-goodgrief-wheres-the-documentation-file-system/ Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] High availability database
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 20:17:56 +0100 (+0100), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: I thought the OP wanted to make the data available over 50 nodes! DRBD can only have two simultaneous primaries. Ah yes, I was taking that as meaning that it needed to withstand failure of a (master) node, but still be accessible from the others - i.e. via an SQL connection or as you suggest a network share. Adrian -- bitcube.co.uk - Linux infrastructure consultancy Puppet, Debian, Red Hat, Ubuntu, CentOS, ... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] What a load of old cobblers!
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 22:14:18 +0100 (+0100), Daniel Pope wrote: [snip] A quality rant there - nice work :-) It seems par for the course to dumb down TV - even science programs being dumbed down well below the level of anyone who would be watching them. Adrian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Deploying a Rails application
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 13:23:28 +0100 (+0100), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: Hi Chris, I have a VPS I'd like to deploy it on running Debian Etch, which already has Apache2 installed and serving other static pages. If you want to keep your Apache2, I'd recommend using ModProxy and Mongrel. For scaling purposes, it's normal to use several Mongrel instances, but to make that work, you need ModProxyBalancer, which comes with Apache 2.2. I've heard of issues with mongrel (from Reductive Labs incidentally), it might be worth looking at mod_passenger (aka mod_rails/mod_ruby I believe). Have a look at brightbox.net for some prepackaged stuff. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] OpenVPN + TrueCrypt
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 07:42:07 +0100 (+0100), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: Morning, I've just deployed an OpenVPN solution for a client, and am considering enhancing the security by having the users keep their keys on an encrypted USB stick. We use PAM authentication on top of openvpn which works well. What doesn't work so well is that openvpn+LDAP+TLS+PAM auth (yes, you need all four) leaks two file descriptors per connection which I never managed to track down (on Debian Etch). We also use the per client key/certs settings but as we can't control passwords on those keys, we can at least control the PAM passwords :) Adrian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Is anybody here using puppet?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 09:01:57 +0100 (+0100), Simon Strange wrote: I've recently inherited ownership of a small network, and I'm interested in using puppet to control it. Puppet is _wonderful_. As for most automation tools, it's definitely one of those things where you have to invest time up front but it will pay you back ten fold. The documentation (and puppet itself) is much better than when I started using it two years ago. I'd recommend looking at external nodes as it makes defining things much easier, well more scalable. OTOH you don't need to bother if it's a fairly small setup. There are lots of useful recipes and facts out there (specific puppet terms here for non-puppeteers), however do see if they are suitable - some do things in quite specific ways which aren't suitable for everyone. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Is anybody here using puppet?
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 07:08:23 + (+), Andy Smith wrote: Can you elaborate more as to how you manage SSH keys? I've seen a couple of ways but never really liked them.. I've been using the ssh-ldap patches with great success for some time now. Drop people's ssh keys into LDAP (ones from putty need slightly altering to openssh format) and then turn off password logins (if you want). I also use sudo-ldap. With puppet the use of ldap isn't quite so important, however I believe it still makes sense - I don't really want to run puppet on all my machines just to remove access for one user. Another problem I have is one of the most trivial things to do with cfengine: purge old files in a directory tree. Puppet's tidy seems to want Sucks doesn't it :-) TBH I normally move these out of puppet's domain and into a small cronscript (installed via puppet of course). Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Technical Customer Services Manager in Lond on
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 08:27:24 +0100 (+0100), Jon Fautley wrote: Please e-mail me using jamesto...@hotmail.com to learn more. Or, ja...@camalyn.org should work just as well. To Bin. How appropriate. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] No WPA2 option in Jaunty
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 17:34:57 +0100 (+0100), Rob Malpass wrote: [snip] Not sure which chipset it is - could be Prism2, in which case you _may_ be able to switch to the hostap driver - which also isnt ideal. The other option is to use ndiswrapper with a windows driver, which again, is less than perfect. Last option is get a new pcmcia/usb network card to replace that one. Just FYI I used to use hostap and WPA2 on a prism2 card (MA401) in case that's useful info. Even got a bug report to prove it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/211780 Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [hardware] RAID5 - hardware or software, based?
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 17:06:54 + (+), Andy Smith wrote: Indeed, unless under very heavy write load I expect software RAID will be fine. To explain this further, if you do a write on RAID-5, you often have to _read_ the disks first - this can add lots of latency. Personally, I do RAID-1 (software or hardware just _not_ fakeraid rubbish) on anything small (e.g. upto 4 disks). Anything big (read expensive), get a decent _battery backed_ hardware controller or an external RAID array with the same. If you do lots of small writes and wait for them to hit disk, this can make a massive difference (I've personally seen a box go from 100% IO bound to 1% IO when we discovered that the server had been shipped with battery backed RAID controller, but in write though not write back mode). Oddly enough the database went just a tad quicker. Regarding enterprise disks, I think it's mostly a completely fallacy reliability wise. Performance wise, a 15Krpm drive will out perform a 5400rpm drive. However there is another issue - how hard a disk will try and recover data. Western Digital RE (RAID Edition) drives give up quite early - they assume you are running in a RAID (not RAID-0) environment, so if they have trouble reading something, they give up quickly and carry on. Most desktop drives try _really_ hard (and don't give up) - thus they effectively lock up for a few mins upon encountering an error. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Cheap Notebooks?
One thing that you may wish to check is hardware virtualisation support - i.e. which CPU is in it and checking it in wikipedia. Be warned that many brand new (even quad core) processors don't have such support - only specific models do. Adrian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] JOB: Senior Security Engineer | LOCATION: London, England, UK
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 23:14:05 +0100 (+0100), jt wrote: I am a Linux user so don't see why I cant post. At the same time I am doing my job! If I don't find people for jobs, I don't pay the mortgage! a) I don't recall seeing a post which wasn't a job advert from you, and neither does a search of the archives: http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/lurker/search/20090211.145837.0...@ml:hampshire,au:jt.en.html b) that is spamming as far as I am concerned and most others I suspect. particularly when you do it repeatedly to many mailing lists c) paying the mortage is irrelevant. if your job was to sell viagra you could argue the same. so that doesn't fly. In short, you aren't contributing, you are just being a nuisance. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Multi-headed virtualization
Also look at SPICE by Qumranet (folks behind KVM, bought by redhat) too. You'd need thin clients, but that has advantages over being limited by cable length back to a central box :-) Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recommendation on Virtualisation books
One thing I've not seen that much comment on is ease of use and management (i.e you want to change settings etc). I find KVM very immature in this regard (particularly when you couple it with the equally immature libvirt* layer). If you want your life to be easy, choose vmware or virtualbox. If you want to be ahead of the game, choose KVM. If you have old boxes without hardware support (check BIOS) then Xen's paravirtualisation could be helpful in terms of performance. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] insmod problem
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 21:31:24 -0500 (-0500), Mike Burrows wrote: Hello folks, Trying to install the quickcam.ko module on a etch system: marvin:/home/testermike# insmod /usr/local/src/qc-usb-0.6.5/quickcam.ko insmod: error inserting '/usr/local/src/qc-usb-0.6.5/quickcam.ko': -1 Invalid module format Try: a) running dmesg after the insmod, IIRC you might see undefined symbols - these will be in modules which you havn't loaded up yet. b) using modprobe rather then insmod (which will load dependencies) normally modules will be in /lib/modules/`uname -r`, and depmod -a is run to build a file with details of the depencies - which modprobe uses... so you might have to do this by hand in your case. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Server Security
One thing I've not seen people mention: Expect it to be hacked - or at least _plan_ for it (especially with if PHP is involved). Backups (tested). HIDS (I use osiris) - tells you _when_ the box has been hacked. Chkrootkit (ditto). Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] memory sticks
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 20:42:03 + (+), Lisi wrote: What are the relative advantages and disadvantages of two pairs of sticks given that they both cost the same? Basically, why one might prefer: CT2KIT12864AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 1.8V • 128Meg x 64 to: CT2KIT12864AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 1.8V • 128Meg x 64 or vice versa. Second one is a tad faster, not that you are likely to notice any difference at all. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] GRUB2 is anyone using it ?
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 09:29:27 + (+), isaaccl...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: hello there, Simple enough question, is anyone using GRUB2 yet ? I ask this because i've had a quick look at it, and unless i'm very wrong, it seems quite different to GRUB. I was, but hit lots of issues due to my setup (software RAID, booting off 3rd/4th disks etc). I believe most of these have been resolved now, however grub v1 just worked (tm) for me. The Nth time I typed in prefix=(md0)/grub to get linux to boot I just went back to grub v1. Writeup was here: http://smop.co.uk/mediawiki/index.php/GRUB2 Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Set bond mode, when bonding is compiled in to the kernel?
Alternatively you can poke quite a few settings for bonding in /proc - not sure you can do those settings though. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Debian 5.0 Lenny domU
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:24:41 + (+), Tony Whitmore wrote: I'm looking to set up a Debian 5.0 (Lenny) domU under Xen on hardware that supports VT. At the moment the dom0 is running Ubuntu 7.10. (I could be persuaded to upgrade it to 8.04 LTS if it helps.) I'd like to ensure that the domU performs as well as possible, in particular disk and network. Does anyone have any tips about making sure this happens, particular kernels to install, settings to tweak etc. A colleague said he saw problems with the 2.6.26-xen kernel as a DomU FWIW. TBH I'd look at KVM as it seems to be the future (I swapped from Xen to KVM pretty painlessly). To answer the question - I think Xen SVM (paravirtualised) is faster than Xen HVM (using hardware support) - but I've nothing to back that up. Install libc6-xen on DomU. One thing that made a big difference (10x) in inter domU network speed was running ethtool -K eth0 tx off in the DomUs. I've also experienced some hard lockups running Debian Etch as a domU, so hopefully this upgrade will help there too. It's strange because I know Debian as a domU with a Debian dom0 is fine, and Ubuntu as a domU with a Debian dom0 seems OK too. Worth checking hardware, we had the occasional hang at work on our Xen box, but not recently since we upgraded to a later Xen (3.2.1 IIRC). Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Debian 5.0 Lenny domU
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:16:07 + (+), Tony Whitmore wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:50:07 +, Adrian Bridgett adr...@smop.co.uk wrote: A colleague said he saw problems with the 2.6.26-xen kernel as a DomU FWIW. TBH I'd look at KVM as it seems to be the future (I swapped from Xen to KVM pretty painlessly). We might do that move in the future, but for now we have three Xen servers with quite a few hosts on them, so it's not a trivial move! I'd like to get the virt-manager stuff working with our Xen servers too to help administration. It's not as painful as you might expect - the only thing that cause any problem at all for me was the networking (I was doing PCI passthrough under Xen which doesn't work on KVM unless you have specific chipsets and bleeding edge code). If it wasn't for that I think it really would have been as simple as a reboot. The libvirt stuff ain't bad. Still very immature (as is virt-manager IMO) but at least it's an abstraction layer of sorts. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] wiki spam update
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 17:05:57 + (+), Adrian Bridgett wrote: Well I think it's certainly helped quite a bit. Not perfect, but then apart from me who is :-) Bah! Spoke too soon, 11 pages spammed :( I've turned on another anti-spam feature now. As usual, yell if you have problems. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] wiki spam update
Well I think it's certainly helped quite a bit. Not perfect, but then apart from me who is :-) 2171 blocked, 87 allowed. Due to the unique way in which the edits work, really there have only been 9 page changes - 5 which were fine, four of which were not. So overall, it's letting a few past, but it is blocking most attempts. Since I've not heard of any complaints for a while I think this is a good thing. Once again many thanks to Steve for offering this service. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Restoring firefox bookmarks
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:49:24 + (+), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: I've rebuilt a machine that was Ubuntu 8.04 with Debian Lenny. I have a backup of /home from the ubuntu machine, including my .mozilla directory. I've rsynced the .mozilla/firefox directory to .mozilla on the debian system, and restarted iceweasel, but I don't see any sign of the bookmarks. They used to use bookmarks.html then .xhtml now it's in an SQLite database. That should be all you need - I wonder if it's in the wrong format. It's .mozilla/firefox (yet _another_ change in name) on my debian box. Alternatively try the amazing, wonderful foxmarks plugin. I used it to sync my laptop and desktop and it does a terrific job. I actually run it against my own server (webdav) so it's not using deltas to send the bookmarks (which it does if you use formarks own server) but I want my bookmarks to be private. It even worked perfectly when was setting it up (about 800 common bookmarks and 50 new ones on each). Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki anti-spam changes
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:17:07 + (+), Simon Capstick wrote: SPAM blocked for LinuxHints/XenOnEtch My IP's static if that's any help to you. Thanks - would you mind trying again? Caught by Bayesian filter like Adam. I've turned that module off - yay for ability to exclude plugins! Nice design Steve :-) I've also upped the max-links count somewhat. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki anti-spam changes
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:37:25 + (+), Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 at 07:29:05PM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote: However I've just tied it into our very own Steve Kemps's blogspam.net service so we'll see how that goes. Please shout if you have any problems - it will say SPAM blocked (we don't want to tell spammers _why_ we block them but we do log the reasons). Edits of my own page from my work IP were blocked, even though I have admin rights. I don't mind (I don't normally make changes from work) I'm just curious how 204.193.45.69 tripped it, can you check the logs? [Mon Jan 26 10:34:13 2009] [error] [client 204.193.45.69] BlogSpamCheck returned SPAM:SpamBayes, referer: http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=editid=AdamTrickett (twice that happened) Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Wiki anti-spam changes
Due do a recent spate of attacks on the wiki, we've made a few changes. I did write a simple anti-spam thing (basically watching percentage of links to text on a page), but that's currently in log only mode. However I've just tied it into our very own Steve Kemps's blogspam.net service so we'll see how that goes. Please shout if you have any problems - it will say SPAM blocked (we don't want to tell spammers _why_ we block them but we do log the reasons). Finally a big thanks to Ciemon for doing a whole bunch of roll backs on the wiki. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki anti-spam changes
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 19:48:03 + (+), Steve Kemp wrote: On Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 19:29:05 +, Adrian Bridgett wrote: However I've just tied it into our very own Steve Kemps's blogspam.net service so we'll see how that goes. It wasn't really setup with wikis in mind, but I'd be very interested in hearing how it works out. Mostly it will depend on what is being fed into the tests, the complete text of the edited page, or just a context diff representing any changes which have been applied. I'd expect you'd need to tweak the max-size, min-size, and max-link properties, but I'm sure trial and error will let you know if that is required. Fab - thanks for the suggestions, we'll see how it goes. It's the whole page that gets tried. I'll try and remember to tell you how it goes in a week or two. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Wiki anti-spam changes
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 21:29:05 + (+), B STEVENS wrote: this may be a naive question but why would anyone attack a linux user group wiki? what form did these attacks take? Probably random attacks. Have a look at this: http://hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=historyid=LinuxHints/SerialConsole if you click on revision 13 you'll see what happens. To see how many attacks we've had recently (we've had such outbreaks before): http://hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RecentChanges Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Email Autoresponders
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 14:05:22 + (+), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: Hello, Notwithstanding the general feeling that we don't much like autoresponders... suppose one has been asked to implement one - I'm looking for recommendations. No suggestion, but something to look for is one that ignores Precedence: Bulk emails. Perhaps maildrop and a minidatabase? Ooh - in fact - maildrop comes with mailbot which will do this for you! Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Building 32-bit apps on 64-bit host
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:23:04 + (+), Richard Danter wrote: Hi all, I have been developing a couple of little apps to make my life easier at work. All has been going well until my host was upgraded to 64-bit. One of the libs I have to use is available only as 32-bit. The apps themselves are using Qt and of course they are 64-bit. Anyone know the correct way to build a 32-bit Qt app on a 64-bit host? I'd use a 32-bit chroot myself to remove any potential problem. Or a VM. I've once been bitten by a (Java of all things!) program failing to build with obscure output (maven) with 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userspace. Adrian -- Email: adr...@smop.co.uk -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Virtualization Project advice
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:27:29 + (+), Simon Capstick wrote: That's a good comprehensive summary by David. I'll only add our experience FWIW... One more experience story FWIW. Summary - KVM for the adventurous, VirtualBox (ease of use) or VMware (server for simplicity or ESX(i) for speed) for less adventurous or those averse to non-GPL. I'v used xen both at work and home and generally I've been happy with it. However Xen (host) is stuck at 2.6.18 and recently that's become a big problem (driver support at home, getting occasional spontaneous reboots at work). VMware Server, Virtualbox work the same way - slowly (well, not too bad TBH). ESX and ESXi are better, but they aren't paravirtualised, though there are some drivers for it. KVM can be paravirtualised and everyone is starting to use it. Our new dell 2950 (like a 1950 but physically bigger for more disks) supports hardware virtualisation - however I had to turn it on in the BIOS (ditto for power management). Hardware RAID card with battery backed cache (no point unless you have that battery backed cache IMO). So I've setup half a dozen OS (dapper, etch, rhel4 and solaris 10) on this over the last week - all worked fine, some are paravirtualised. I've also moved my 6 Xen domains at home over to KVM, also fine, all paravirtualised. Whilst I'm confident that KVM is the way of the future (ubuntu, redhat (which have bought the developes of KVM)), the management tools are very rough and immature ATM. virt-manager GUI is almost useless. There are various gotchas - e.g. using libvirt to manage the domains, without adding featureacpi//feature to the libvirt XML file a graceful shutdown wasn't (it just forced machine straight off). I found KVM networking very easy actually - it's just network bridging. However one thing I miss from Xen is the ability to passthrough PCI cards to underlying domains (this is being added to KVM but may depend upon quite rare hardware support). Adrian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Some dpkg questions...
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 19:07:49 - (-), Vic wrote: Hi All. I've got a couple of questions about dpkg that I'm not sure about (after reading the man page...) Firstly, dpkg apparently has a --root opetion; I'm not sure if I'm using it properly. I tried : dpkg --root=/mnt/image/ -L sysvconfig And got nothing for my trouble (yet the apt log for that image says it's installed). It is probably just groking /var/lib/dpkg/info/sysvconfig.list. Try --admindir. I would really avoid using --root (or --admindir, --instdir) unless you really know what you are doing. If you don't specify --admindir for example, then your current box will think a package is installed but you will have installed it elsewhere. Secondly - how do I list the scripts from a .deb? They are _always_ in /var/lib/dpkg/info/(packagename).* Which is _so_ much nicer than Redhat IMO. In particular you can fix them much, much more easily when they don't work :-) Adrian -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Admin IQ Test
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 06:01:48 + (+), Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Victor Churchill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A link to this popped up on the Dorset list : http://www.infoworld.com/tools/quiz/news/IQ2008linux-news-quiz.php Damn. 95%. Darn trick question (which I personally think is wrong anyhow). Adrian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Swap versus RAM size (was: I just have to tell someone...)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 23:23:38 + (+), Alan Pope wrote: For some time now on 64-bit platforms the recommendation has been at least 20G of swap no matter how much RAM you have. If you have ever studied the SAP memory management system you can see why. The general argument goes that 20G of swap is considerably cheaper than having your multi-million pound business down for half a day whilst an admin (or expensive external consultant) debugs a memory issue. Paging in 20GB of swap means your system performance is already going to be pants. Or dead. I'm all for nor falling over since you are a _little_ tight on memory, but really if you manage to undercut it by 20GB you are in serious trouble anyway :-) My issue was that (as I understood it), SAP would _not support_ it unless we had such a ridiculous amount of swap setup. Adrian -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -*- GPG key available on public key servers Debian GNU/Linux - the maintainable distribution -*- www.debian.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --