Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
You can download the three files from the top of this
page.  Let me know if you need help.

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Debugging_with_GT.M

Kevin


--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to have it.
 Thanks
 Usha
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE
 while exporting
 
 
 I have a very crude debugger that allows stepping
 through code.  I can get you the code if you want.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well how to do that?
  
  Usha
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg Woodhouse
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:35 PM
  Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
 DEVICE
  while exporting
  
  
  At this point, I'd be inclined to try using a
  debugger to be sure that
  the pathname of the file you are trying to open is
  what you think it
  is. One possibility is that the path is being
  constructed in such a way
  that there is nothing to open. If there were a
  trappable error, you
  could also check the symbol table using ^XTER.
  
  --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Also try to write t o/tmp this usually has 777
  permissions where
   other
   directories may be more restricted
   
   Thanks
   
   Marc Aylesworth
   
   C3I Associates 
   
   AFRL/IFSE
   
   Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
   
   525 Brooks Rd
   
   Rome, NY 13441-4505
   
   Tel:315.330.2422
   
   Fax:315.330.7009
   
   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   -Original Message-
   From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of
   K.S.
   Bhaskar
   Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:23 AM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
  DEVICE while exporting
   
   Usha --
   
   The information you sent, shell commands that I
  used to illustrate
   the 
   use of ZSYstem, are probably not very helpful to
  anyone trying to
   debug 
   why %ZISH is not accessing files in directories
  other than 
   /home/vista/OpenVistA.  You may want to post the
  output of the
   following 
   commands:
   
   ZSY id
   ZSY ls -ld /home/vista/OpenVistA
   ZSY ls -ld XXX
   
   where XXX is a directory where %ZISH is unable
 to
  open a file.  You
   can 
   also just send the output of the commands
 executed
  at a Linux shell 
   rather than the GT.M prompt:
   
   id
   ls -ld /home/vista/OpenVistA
   ls -ld XXX
   
   -- Bhaskar
   
   Usha wrote:
I am able to open any file in
  /home/vista/OpenVistA directory only.
   No 
other
file is opening using %ZISH.

Following is a screenshot, with the help of
  Bhaskar

 GTMZSYstem echo $PWD
/home/vista/OpenVistA

GTMZSYstem uname -a
Linux local.cmpio.org 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl #1
 Wed
  Oct 29 15:42:51 EST
   2003
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

GTMh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$ echo $PWD
/home/vista
[EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$


Regards
Usha
- Original Message -
From: Gregory Woodhouse
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
  DEVICE while exporting


  Can you OPEN the file? Can you open (with
  %ZISH) a file in a
  different directory (say /tmp)?
 
  ===
  Gregory Woodhouse
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Without the requirement of mathematical
  aesthetics a great many
  discoveries would not have been made.
  -- Albert Einstein
 
 
 
  On Jun 16, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Usha wrote:
 
   The difference between the previous and
  later open statements
   is
   that the
   latter open statement was executed after
  opening the file in
   WRITE
   mode
   (which I think, created a new file
  patmast.txt in /home/vista/
   OpenVistA
   directory).
  
   After deleting the
  /home/vista/OpenVistA/patmast.txt file,
   when I
   try to
   run the open command with the trailing
 '/',
  the following is
   what I
   see
  
   GTMD
  
 

OPEN^%ZISH(PATFILE,/home/vista/VistA/,patmast.txt,R)
  
 
=== message truncated ===




 
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[Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Carroll, Richard (EDS)
Title: Message



I went to the hardhats page and downloaded 
Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS 
prompt?

Thanks,

Ric


[Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING SPECIALTY

2005-06-21 Thread Usha



What does the SERVICE/SECTION field specify for a 
NEW PERSON? And how to specify the specialty of a provider?

What does TREATING SPECIALTY file 
contain?
Which one of them (or a third one) holds the 
specialty of a clinic or ward?If TREATING SECIALITY is the one, then 
TREATING SPECIALTY SET-UP option does not allow adding of new specialties (it 
comes to the GT.M prompt). 



Regards
Usha



Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I think just keep hitting enter, and it will drop you
back to a mumps prompt.

How did you launch fileman?

Kevin


--- Carroll, Richard (EDS)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman
 to my PC but I am
 trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS
 prompt?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Ric
 




 
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[Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold 
(and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA live CD), it 
occurs to me that I could easily organize the global variables into 
multiple database files where it makes sense for them to be separate.


For example, if there are global variables which are transient (e.g., 
perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, one would just 
delete the old database file and create a new one, they could be put in 
a scratch region.


If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on a Saturday 
night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in triplicate by 
someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood, then we could 
put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.


And so on.

If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables, I'll keep them 
all in one file as I have done to date.


The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one to a line 
to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance for your 
assistance.


-- Bhaskar

--
ABS
ACK
AFJ
ALPB
ANRV
APSPQA
AUPNPAT
AUPNPROB
AUPNVCPT
AUPNVHF
AUPNVIMM
AUPNVPED
AUPNVPOV
AUPNVPRV
AUPNVSIT
AUPNVSK
AUPNVTRT
AUPNVXAM
AUTNPOV
AUTTEDT
AUTTEXAM
AUTTHF
AUTTIMM
AUTTLOC
AUTTSK
AUTTTRT
AWC
BPSCOMB
BPSC
BPSECX
BPSEI
BPSF
BPSR
BPSTL
BPST
BPS
DDA
DD
DENT
DGAM
DGBT
DGCN
DGCPT
DGCR
DGENA
DGEN
DGICD9
DGIN
DGMS
DGMT
DGM
DGNT
DGPF
DGPM
DGPR
DGPT
DGP
DGQE
DGRO
DGRU
DGSL
DGS
DGTF
DGWAIT
DG
DIAR
DIA
DIBT
DIC
DIE
DIPT
DIST
DISV
DI
DIZ
DMSQ
DOPT
DPT
DVB
EAS
ECC
ECD
ECH
ECJ
ECK
ECL
ECP
ECR
ECT
ECX
EC
EDR
EEO
ENCSN
ENGS
ENG
ESP
FB583
FB7078
FBAAA
FBAACNH
FBAAC
FBAAI
FBAAV
FBAA
FBHL
FB
FHEN
FHING
FHNU
FHPT
FHUM
FH
FSCD
FSC
GECS
GMPL
GMRD
GMR
GMT
HBHC
HLCS
HLEV
HLMA
HLS
HL
HOLIDAY
IBAM
IBAT
IBA
IBCNR
IBCN
IBD
IBE
IBM
IBQ
IBT
IB
ICD0
ICD9
ICDYZ
ICD
ICM
ICPT
IMR
IVM
KMPD
KMPR
KMPS
LAB
LAC
LAHM
LAM
LAR
LBRY
LEXC
LEXM
LEXT
LEX
LRD
LRE
LRO
LRT
LR
MAGDAUDT
MAGDGEQR
MAGDHL7
MAGDICOM
MAGDINPT
MAGDMLOG
MAGDOUTP
MAGDWLST
MAGD
MAGIXCVT
MAGQUEUE
MAGRT
MAG
MCAR
MDD
MDS
MPIF
MR
MXML
NURQ
NURSA
NURSC
NURSF
NVSTEMP
NVS
OCXD
OCXS
OFM
ONCO
OOPS
ORA
ORD
ORE
ORRT
ORYX
OR
PPP
PRCAK
PRCA
PRCD
PRCF
PRCH
PRCN
PRCP
PRCS
PRCT
PRCU
PRC
PRPFT
PRPF
PRSD
PRSE
PRSPC
PRSP
PRST
PSB
PSCST
PSDRUG
PSD
PSI
PSNDF
PSNTRAN
PSOARC
PSRX
PSUDEM
PSXARC
PSX
PS
PTX
PXD
PXRMD
PXRMPT
PXRMXP
PXRMXT
PXRM
PX
QA
RABTCH
RADPTN
RADPT
RAMIS
RAO
RARPT
RA
RCD
RCPSE
RCPSS
RCPS
RCT
RCXV
RCY
RC
RGEQASN
RGEQEXC
RGEQ
RGHL7
RGSITE
RGSTAT
RMIM
RMPF
RMPO
RMPRA
RMPR
RORDATA
ROR
RTV
RT
SCE
SCPT
SCRS
SCTM
SC
SDAM
SDASE
SDASF
SDD
SDV
SDWL
SD
SOWK
SPNL
SRF
SRO
SRP
SRS
SRU
TIU
USC
USR
VAS
VAT
VA
VDEFHL7
VIC
VSIT
WV
XDRM
XHD
XHLP
XIP
XMBPOST
XMBS
XMBX
XMB
XMD
XOB
XPD
XTV
XT
XUCM
XUCS
XUSEC
XUSSPKI
XWB
YSA
YSCL
YSD
YSG
YSR
YSTX
YS
YTD
YTT
YTX
%ZISL
%ZIS
%ZRTL
%ZTER
%ZTSCH
%ZTSK
%ZUA
%ZUT
%Z
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Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread James Gray
Title: Message



Are you using Cache or GT.M?

Jim Gray

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carroll, Richard (EDS) 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 
  PM
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS 
  Prompt
  
  I went to the hardhats page and downloaded 
  Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman! How can I get to a 
  MUMPS prompt?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Ric


Re: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING SPECIALTY

2005-06-21 Thread James Gray



Within the VA what most of the rest of the English 
speaking world would call a department, the VA calls a Service. 
Sub-departments are called Sections. So Sections are subsets of the 
services.

Jim Gray

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Usha 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:39 
AM
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] What is 
  SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING SPECIALTY
  
  What does the SERVICE/SECTION field specify for a 
  NEW PERSON? And how to specify the specialty of a provider?
  
  What does TREATING SPECIALTY file 
  contain?
  Which one of them (or a third one) holds the 
  specialty of a clinic or ward?If TREATING SECIALITY is the one, then 
  TREATING SPECIALTY SET-UP option does not allow adding of new specialties (it 
  comes to the GT.M prompt). 
  
  
  
  Regards
  Usha
  


Re: [Hardhats-members] How to save a nake reference?

2005-06-21 Thread smcphelan
$$LGR^%ZOSV

- Original Message - 
From: Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to save a nake reference?


 I believe there's an entry point in %ZOSV to call the platform  
 dependent method of getting the last global reference.
 
 ===
 Gregory Woodhouse
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Better. Faster. Cheaper. Pick two.
 
 
 On Jun 20, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
 
  Speaking of my debugger (in other thread), I am
  considering again a problem I had in creating it.
 
  Because my code is called between every line of the
  source code, I have to be careful not to change the
  environment, or the program running will be confused.
  One of the things to not be changed would be the naked
  reference.  Thus, if I make any references to a global
  variable in my debugging code, it will change the
  naked reference for the next line of the source code.
 
  I would like to be able to store debugging data in a
  global (i.e. screen width etc) rather than hard coding
  it.  So I need to save the nake reference, so I can
  restore it after my debugging code is done.
 
  I thought that I could perhaps save the name of the
  nake reference somehow, and then reference it again as
  I was leaving my code.  But I'm hazy about how to do
  this.
 
  Any idea about how to save a nake reference?
 
  Thanks
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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Hay, James (DHS-CMS)
Title: Message









Does shift-6
help?



-Original
Message-
From:
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:21
AM
To:
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members]
The MUMPS Prompt



Are you
using Cache or GT.M?



Jim
Gray



-
Original Message - 



From: Carroll,
Richard (EDS) 



To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net


Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005
12:09 PM

Subject:
[Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt



I went to the
hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside
Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?



Thanks,



Ric










RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
Title: Message








Usually the ^ symbol backs you out of
Vista functions.





Thanks,

Marc Aylesworth



C3I
Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team



525 Brooks Rd

Rome, NY
13441-4505



Tel:315.330.2422

Fax:315.330.7009

Email:Marc[EMAIL PROTECTED]













From:
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:29
PM
To:
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Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members]
The MUMPS Prompt





Does shift-6 help?



-Original
Message-
From:
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:21
AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
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The MUMPS Prompt



Are you
using Cache or GT.M?



Jim
Gray



-
Original Message - 





From: Carroll, Richard (EDS) 







To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net


Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005
12:09 PM

Subject:
[Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt



I went to the
hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside
Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?



Thanks,



Ric










RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
If you have the proper keys to make you a programmer(XUPROG and
XUPROGMODE), then you only need type ^PG.

I am assuming that you signed in through ^ZU. If you started at the
MUMPS prompt and then used ^XUP to get to DIUSER (you said Fileman,
didn't you?), then you can just back out. But if you signed in
(ACCESS/VERIFY codes) at the beginning of your session and went
straight to Menu Manager, then you probably signed in through ^ZU and
need to invoke the option to take you to programmer mode.


--- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Usually the ^ symbol backs you out of Vista functions.
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
 Marc Aylesworth
 
  
 
 C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
 
  
 
 525 Brooks Rd
 
 Rome, NY 13441-4505
 
  
 
 Tel:315.330.2422
 
 Fax:315.330.7009
 
 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Hay,
 James (DHS-CMS)
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:29 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
  
 
 Does shift-6 help?
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 James Gray
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:21 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
  
 
 Are you using Cache or GT.M?
 
  
 
 Jim Gray
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: Carroll, Richard (EDS) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 
  
 
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 mailto:hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net  
 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
 
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
  
 
 I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am
 trapped
 inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
 Ric
 
 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING SPECIALTY

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
In my site, I used SERVICE/SECTION to enter the names
such as FAMILY PRACTICE, GASTROENTEROLOGY.

Kevin


--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What does the SERVICE/SECTION field specify for a
 NEW PERSON? And how to specify the specialty of a
 provider?
 
 What does TREATING SPECIALTY file contain?
 Which one of them (or a third one) holds the
 specialty of a clinic or ward? If TREATING SECIALITY
 is the one, then TREATING SPECIALTY SET-UP option
 does not allow adding of new specialties (it comes
 to the GT.M prompt). 
 
 
 
 Regards
 Usha
 
 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Carroll, Richard (EDS)
Title: Message



I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:Learn M and FM v21 for freeDownload this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File Manager v21. Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it is limited to a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.I chose the download and the readme says:The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored in
the Fileman.m file.  A limitation of this current edition, is that the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the
following path.
 
  C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the  of things...Thanks ~ Ric


-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James 
GraySent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PMTo: 
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Hardhats-members] 
The MUMPS Prompt
Are you using Cache or GT.M?

Jim Gray

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carroll, Richard (EDS) 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 
  PM
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS 
  Prompt
  
  I went to the hardhats page and downloaded 
  Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman! How can I get to a 
  MUMPS prompt?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Ric


RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread Tomlinson, Steven B
Just curious, what, if any, advantages are there to doing that? I like
having just one file to deal with.

Steven B. Tomlinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
www.PacificHui.org







 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K.S.
 Bhaskar
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:17 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
 
 
 As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold 
 (and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA 
 live CD), it 
 occurs to me that I could easily organize the global variables into 
 multiple database files where it makes sense for them to be separate.
 
 For example, if there are global variables which are transient (e.g., 
 perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, one would just 
 delete the old database file and create a new one, they could 
 be put in 
 a scratch region.
 
 If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on a Saturday 
 night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in 
 triplicate by 
 someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood, 
 then we could 
 put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.
 
 And so on.
 
 If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables, 
 I'll keep them 
 all in one file as I have done to date.
 
 The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one 
 to a line 
 to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance 
 for your 
 assistance.
 
 -- Bhaskar
 
 --
 ABS
 ACK
 AFJ
 ALPB
 ANRV
 APSPQA
 AUPNPAT
 AUPNPROB
 AUPNVCPT
 AUPNVHF
 AUPNVIMM
 AUPNVPED
 AUPNVPOV
 AUPNVPRV
 AUPNVSIT
 AUPNVSK
 AUPNVTRT
 AUPNVXAM
 AUTNPOV
 AUTTEDT
 AUTTEXAM
 AUTTHF
 AUTTIMM
 AUTTLOC
 AUTTSK
 AUTTTRT
 AWC
 BPSCOMB
 BPSC
 BPSECX
 BPSEI
 BPSF
 BPSR
 BPSTL
 BPST
 BPS
 DDA
 DD
 DENT
 DGAM
 DGBT
 DGCN
 DGCPT
 DGCR
 DGENA
 DGEN
 DGICD9
 DGIN
 DGMS
 DGMT
 DGM
 DGNT
 DGPF
 DGPM
 DGPR
 DGPT
 DGP
 DGQE
 DGRO
 DGRU
 DGSL
 DGS
 DGTF
 DGWAIT
 DG
 DIAR
 DIA
 DIBT
 DIC
 DIE
 DIPT
 DIST
 DISV
 DI
 DIZ
 DMSQ
 DOPT
 DPT
 DVB
 EAS
 ECC
 ECD
 ECH
 ECJ
 ECK
 ECL
 ECP
 ECR
 ECT
 ECX
 EC
 EDR
 EEO
 ENCSN
 ENGS
 ENG
 ESP
 FB583
 FB7078
 FBAAA
 FBAACNH
 FBAAC
 FBAAI
 FBAAV
 FBAA
 FBHL
 FB
 FHEN
 FHING
 FHNU
 FHPT
 FHUM
 FH
 FSCD
 FSC
 GECS
 GMPL
 GMRD
 GMR
 GMT
 HBHC
 HLCS
 HLEV
 HLMA
 HLS
 HL
 HOLIDAY
 IBAM
 IBAT
 IBA
 IBCNR
 IBCN
 IBD
 IBE
 IBM
 IBQ
 IBT
 IB
 ICD0
 ICD9
 ICDYZ
 ICD
 ICM
 ICPT
 IMR
 IVM
 KMPD
 KMPR
 KMPS
 LAB
 LAC
 LAHM
 LAM
 LAR
 LBRY
 LEXC
 LEXM
 LEXT
 LEX
 LRD
 LRE
 LRO
 LRT
 LR
 MAGDAUDT
 MAGDGEQR
 MAGDHL7
 MAGDICOM
 MAGDINPT
 MAGDMLOG
 MAGDOUTP
 MAGDWLST
 MAGD
 MAGIXCVT
 MAGQUEUE
 MAGRT
 MAG
 MCAR
 MDD
 MDS
 MPIF
 MR
 MXML
 NURQ
 NURSA
 NURSC
 NURSF
 NVSTEMP
 NVS
 OCXD
 OCXS
 OFM
 ONCO
 OOPS
 ORA
 ORD
 ORE
 ORRT
 ORYX
 OR
 PPP
 PRCAK
 PRCA
 PRCD
 PRCF
 PRCH
 PRCN
 PRCP
 PRCS
 PRCT
 PRCU
 PRC
 PRPFT
 PRPF
 PRSD
 PRSE
 PRSPC
 PRSP
 PRST
 PSB
 PSCST
 PSDRUG
 PSD
 PSI
 PSNDF
 PSNTRAN
 PSOARC
 PSRX
 PSUDEM
 PSXARC
 PSX
 PS
 PTX
 PXD
 PXRMD
 PXRMPT
 PXRMXP
 PXRMXT
 PXRM
 PX
 QA
 RABTCH
 RADPTN
 RADPT
 RAMIS
 RAO
 RARPT
 RA
 RCD
 RCPSE
 RCPSS
 RCPS
 RCT
 RCXV
 RCY
 RC
 RGEQASN
 RGEQEXC
 RGEQ
 RGHL7
 RGSITE
 RGSTAT
 RMIM
 RMPF
 RMPO
 RMPRA
 RMPR
 RORDATA
 ROR
 RTV
 RT
 SCE
 SCPT
 SCRS
 SCTM
 SC
 SDAM
 SDASE
 SDASF
 SDD
 SDV
 SDWL
 SD
 SOWK
 SPNL
 SRF
 SRO
 SRP
 SRS
 SRU
 TIU
 USC
 USR
 VAS
 VAT
 VA
 VDEFHL7
 VIC
 VSIT
 WV
 XDRM
 XHD
 XHLP
 XIP
 XMBPOST
 XMBS
 XMBX
 XMB
 XMD
 XOB
 XPD
 XTV
 XT
 XUCM
 XUCS
 XUSEC
 XUSSPKI
 XWB
 YSA
 YSCL
 YSD
 YSG
 YSR
 YSTX
 YS
 YTD
 YTT
 YTX
 %ZISL
 %ZIS
 %ZRTL
 %ZTER
 %ZTSCH
 %ZTSK
 %ZUA
 %ZUT
 %Z
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I'm just a lowly programmer (not a sysadmin), but the first two things
that come to mind are

1. improved parallelism
2. keeping your bus good and busy

(Okay, okay, so maybe the 2nd item is really an advantage.)

--- Tomlinson, Steven B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just curious, what, if any, advantages are there to doing that? I
 like
 having just one file to deal with.
 
 Steven B. Tomlinson
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 www.PacificHui.org


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Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread James Gray
Title: Message



Then it is neither Cache or GT.M. It is 
MSM. Hopefully you can use one of the techniques mentioned in one of the 
other messages.
Jim Gray

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carroll, Richard (EDS) 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:05 
PM
  Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS 
  Prompt
  
  I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:Learn M and FM v21 for freeDownload this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File Manager v21. Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it is limited to a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.I chose the download and the readme says:The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored in
the Fileman.m file.  A limitation of this current edition, is that the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the
following path.
 
  C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the  of things...Thanks ~ Ric

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  James GraySent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PMTo: 
  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: 
  [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  Are you using Cache or GT.M?
  
  Jim Gray
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Carroll, Richard (EDS) 
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 

Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 
PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS 
Prompt

I went to the hardhats page and 
downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman! How can I 
get to a MUMPS prompt?

Thanks,

Ric


Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting

2005-06-21 Thread Mark Street
I followed this thread to the end and thought I would jump in at this point.

It seems to me that we are dealing with an environment issue.  What does 
vista's .bash_profile say for gtm_vista and vista_home variables?

It may not allow you to create files outside of vista_home if vista_home 
= /home/vista/OpenVistA

It was difficult to follow this thread as it was an offshoot of another 
thread.

On Monday 20 June 2005 20:46, Usha wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$ ls -ld /home/vista/VistA
 drwxrwxrwx4 vistavista4096 Jun 17 11:40 /home/vista/VistA
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$

 Usha
 - Original Message -
 From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting


 Is it a link? Try

 ls -ld /home/vista/VistA

 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I tried opening a file in /home/vista/VistA
 
  GTMS
  Y=$$GTF^%ZISH($NA(^DPT(1,0)),2,/home/vista/VistA/,MYFILE.DAT)
 
  GTM
 
  But the file is created in /home/vista/OpenVistA directory.
  I also tried /tmp
 
  GTMS Y=$$GTF^%ZISH($NA(^DPT(1,0)),2,/tmp,MYFILE.DAT)
 
  GTMh
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -ld /tmp
  drwxrwxrwt   14 root root 4096 Jun 20 09:30 /tmp
 
  But there is no file in /tmp directory too.
 
  Regards
  Usha
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting
 
 
  I haven't recently tested the OPEN function, but I am
  using FTG and GTF^%ZISH -- which I think indirectly
  calls OPEN.  It is working without any restrictions.
 
  Kevin
 
  --- smcphelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The only thing that make sense to me is that you do
   not have read/write
   privileges to those other directories.  All %ZISH is
   doing is issuing an
   OPEN command.  Perhaps there is some peculiarities
   of the OPEN command
   syntax within GT.M that %ZISH is not honoring.  But
   I do not believe that is
   the case.  Can anyone else on this thread use
   OPEN^%ZISH on GT.M for any
   directory. especially any directory that is not part
   of the GT.M
   installation?
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread chuck5566
Richard,
If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows.  If you're sticking with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for Windows.
http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html


If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M MUMPS for Linux on SourceForge.  Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.





On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:

I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:

Learn M and FM v21 for free
Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File Manager v21. 

Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it is limited to 

a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
I chose the download and the readme says:
The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored in
the Fileman.m file.  A limitation of this current edition, is that the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the
following path.


C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the > of things...
Thanks ~ Ric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

Are you using Cache or GT.M?
 
Jim Gray
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I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?
 
Thanks,
 
Ric

[Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread gmartinson
Bhaskar,

I think this a good idea.  If one uses journaling and backups it would make
the
administration of backup and recovery easier by separating the critical mass
from the mundane
wouldn't it?  Also, the multiple databases would sort of be self
documenting, i.e. what
global var's go to what application.  Always useful knowledge for
development purposes.

gmartinson
_

 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:17:26 -0400
 From: K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: Fidelity Information Services, Inc.
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
 Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net

 As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold
 (and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA live CD), it
 occurs to me that I could easily organize the global variables into
 multiple database files where it makes sense for them to be separate.

 For example, if there are global variables which are transient (e.g.,
 perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, one would just
 delete the old database file and create a new one, they could be put in
 a scratch region.

 If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on a Saturday
 night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in triplicate by
 someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood, then we could
 put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.

 And so on.

 If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables, I'll keep them
 all in one file as I have done to date.

 The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one to a line
 to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance for your
 assistance.

 -- Bhaskar

 --
 ABS
 ACK
 AFJ
 ALPB
 ANRV
 APSPQA
 AUPNPAT
 AUPNPROB
 AUPNVCPT
 AUPNVHF
 AUPNVIMM
 AUPNVPED
 AUPNVPOV
 AUPNVPRV
 AUPNVSIT
 AUPNVSK
 AUPNVTRT
 AUPNVXAM
 AUTNPOV
 AUTTEDT
 AUTTEXAM
 AUTTHF
 AUTTIMM
 AUTTLOC
 AUTTSK
 AUTTTRT
 AWC
 BPSCOMB
 BPSC
 BPSECX
 BPSEI
 BPSF
 BPSR
 BPSTL
 BPST
 BPS
 DDA
 DD
 DENT
 DGAM
 DGBT
 DGCN
 DGCPT
 DGCR
 DGENA
 DGEN
 DGICD9
 DGIN
 DGMS
 DGMT
 DGM
 DGNT
 DGPF
 DGPM
 DGPR
 DGPT
 DGP
 DGQE
 DGRO
 DGRU
 DGSL
 DGS
 DGTF
 DGWAIT
 DG
 DIAR
 DIA
 DIBT
 DIC
 DIE
 DIPT
 DIST
 DISV
 DI
 DIZ
 DMSQ
 DOPT
 DPT
 DVB
 EAS
 ECC
 ECD
 ECH
 ECJ
 ECK
 ECL
 ECP
 ECR
 ECT
 ECX
 EC
 EDR
 EEO
 ENCSN
 ENGS
 ENG
 ESP
 FB583
 FB7078
 FBAAA
 FBAACNH
 FBAAC
 FBAAI
 FBAAV
 FBAA
 FBHL
 FB
 FHEN
 FHING
 FHNU
 FHPT
 FHUM
 FH
 FSCD
 FSC
 GECS
 GMPL
 GMRD
 GMR
 GMT
 HBHC
 HLCS
 HLEV
 HLMA
 HLS
 HL
 HOLIDAY
 IBAM
 IBAT
 IBA
 IBCNR
 IBCN
 IBD
 IBE
 IBM
 IBQ
 IBT
 IB
 ICD0
 ICD9
 ICDYZ
 ICD
 ICM
 ICPT
 IMR
 IVM
 KMPD
 KMPR
 KMPS
 LAB
 LAC
 LAHM
 LAM
 LAR
 LBRY
 LEXC
 LEXM
 LEXT
 LEX
 LRD
 LRE
 LRO
 LRT
 LR
 MAGDAUDT
 MAGDGEQR
 MAGDHL7
 MAGDICOM
 MAGDINPT
 MAGDMLOG
 MAGDOUTP
 MAGDWLST
 MAGD
 MAGIXCVT
 MAGQUEUE
 MAGRT
 MAG
 MCAR
 MDD
 MDS
 MPIF
 MR
 MXML
 NURQ
 NURSA
 NURSC
 NURSF
 NVSTEMP
 NVS
 OCXD
 OCXS
 OFM
 ONCO
 OOPS
 ORA
 ORD
 ORE
 ORRT
 ORYX
 OR
 PPP
 PRCAK
 PRCA
 PRCD
 PRCF
 PRCH
 PRCN
 PRCP
 PRCS
 PRCT
 PRCU
 PRC
 PRPFT
 PRPF
 PRSD
 PRSE
 PRSPC
 PRSP
 PRST
 PSB
 PSCST
 PSDRUG
 PSD
 PSI
 PSNDF
 PSNTRAN
 PSOARC
 PSRX
 PSUDEM
 PSXARC
 PSX
 PS
 PTX
 PXD
 PXRMD
 PXRMPT
 PXRMXP
 PXRMXT
 PXRM
 PX
 QA
 RABTCH
 RADPTN
 RADPT
 RAMIS
 RAO
 RARPT
 RA
 RCD
 RCPSE
 RCPSS
 RCPS
 RCT
 RCXV
 RCY
 RC
 RGEQASN
 RGEQEXC
 RGEQ
 RGHL7
 RGSITE
 RGSTAT
 RMIM
 RMPF
 RMPO
 RMPRA
 RMPR
 RORDATA
 ROR
 RTV
 RT
 SCE
 SCPT
 SCRS
 SCTM
 SC
 SDAM
 SDASE
 SDASF
 SDD
 SDV
 SDWL
 SD
 SOWK
 SPNL
 SRF
 SRO
 SRP
 SRS
 SRU
 TIU
 USC
 USR
 VAS
 VAT
 VA
 VDEFHL7
 VIC
 VSIT
 WV
 XDRM
 XHD
 XHLP
 XIP
 XMBPOST
 XMBS
 XMBX
 XMB
 XMD
 XOB
 XPD
 XTV
 XT
 XUCM
 XUCS
 XUSEC
 XUSSPKI
 XWB
 YSA
 YSCL
 YSD
 YSG
 YSR
 YSTX
 YS
 YTD
 YTT
 YTX
 %ZISL
 %ZIS
 %ZRTL
 %ZTER
 %ZTSCH
 %ZTSK
 %ZUA
 %ZUT
 %Z
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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Thurman Pedigo










but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be
immeasurably helpful.



It is starting to look like that. Dont think it was that when I subscribed.
Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless
of the flavor. Now I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way/t


















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chuck5566
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02
PM
To:
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members]
The MUMPS Prompt





Richard,
If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If you're sticking with
Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and download their
free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for Windows.
http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html

If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M MUMPS for
Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is mainly about
a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at
least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.



On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:

I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:

Learn M and FM v21 for free
Download this free version of M that has been
pre-configured to run File Manager v21. 

Dave
Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it is limited to


a single
user. Check out the readme.txt for
details.
I chose the download and the readme says:
The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program
from the data stored in
the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current
edition, is that the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m)
must be stored in the
following path.

C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
It comes up
right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the 
of things...
Thanks ~ Ric

-Original Message-
From:
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On Behalf Of James Gray
Sent:
Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
To:
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Subject:
Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

Are you using Cache or GT.M?

Jim Gray



- Original Message -
From:
Carroll, Richard
(EDS) 
To:
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net

Sent:
Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject:
[Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped
inside Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?

Thanks,

Ric










Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Actually, this is an anything you want to run VistA group as this is the 
Hardhats mailing list. It happens to have a big, noisy contingency of 
WorldVistA/GT.M users, but M is M whether or not Intersytems mentions it on 
their web page and you can practice M in Cache just fine.

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:02 pm, chuck5566 wrote:
 Richard,
 If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows.  If you're
 sticking with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web
 site and download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for
 Windows.
 http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html

 If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M
 MUMPS for Linux on SourceForge.  Nothing wrong with Cache, but this
 group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
 VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be
 immeasurably helpful.

 On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:
  I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
 
  Learn M and FM v21 for free
  Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run
  File Manager v21.
 
  Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it
  is limited to
 
  a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
  I chose the download and the readme says:
  The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data
  stored in
  the Fileman.m file.  A limitation of this current edition, is that the
  three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the
  following path.
 
C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
  It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I
  wanted to get to the  of things...
  Thanks ~ Ric
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  James Gray
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
  Are you using Cache or GT.M?
   
  Jim Gray
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
  I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am
  trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?
   
  Thanks,
   
  Ric

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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread K.S. Bhaskar

Steve --

The only reason to segregate globals is for operational reasons such as 
those I outlined, e.g., a throw-away-on-system-crash database file for 
scratch globals, a read-only database file for globals that are not 
modified in normal operation, such as globals that define the data 
dictionary, etc.


The benefit is potentially simpler operations and/or reduced IO on the 
system, e.g., you won't need a daily backup for either scratch globals 
or data dictionary globals.


You can use different database files for partitioning globals for 
sharing purposes - for example, in the GT.M Acculturation CD at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm there is an example for 
setting up an ASP for the Azkaban Infirmary and St. Mungo's Hospital, 
where both share a drug file but are otherwise separate.


You can also partition for purposes of restricting access - e.g., if 
there is a global that stores information about supplies in inventory, 
not everyone would need access to it.  By segregating patient records 
globals from supplies globals, people in the purchasing department would 
be unable to acces patient records.


These are the benefits of segregating globals.  As you say, the benefits 
of not segregating are a small number of database and journal files.


If there isn't a natural partitioning for the OpenVistA VivA and 
OpenVistA SemiVivA packages, I'll leave things as they are, in one 
database file.


-- Bhaskar

Tomlinson, Steven B wrote:

Just curious, what, if any, advantages are there to doing that? I like
having just one file to deal with.

Steven B. Tomlinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
www.PacificHui.org







  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K.S.
  Bhaskar
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:17 AM
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
 
 
  As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold
  (and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA
  live CD), it
  occurs to me that I could easily organize the global variables into
  multiple database files where it makes sense for them to be separate.
 
  For example, if there are global variables which are transient (e.g.,
  perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, one would just
  delete the old database file and create a new one, they could
  be put in
  a scratch region.
 
  If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on a Saturday
  night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in
  triplicate by
  someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood,
  then we could
  put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.
 
  And so on.
 
  If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables,
  I'll keep them
  all in one file as I have done to date.
 
  The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one
  to a line
  to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance
  for your
  assistance.
 
  -- Bhaskar
 
  --
  ABS
  ACK
  AFJ
  ALPB
  ANRV
  APSPQA
  AUPNPAT
  AUPNPROB
  AUPNVCPT
  AUPNVHF
  AUPNVIMM
  AUPNVPED
  AUPNVPOV
  AUPNVPRV
  AUPNVSIT
  AUPNVSK
  AUPNVTRT
  AUPNVXAM
  AUTNPOV
  AUTTEDT
  AUTTEXAM
  AUTTHF
  AUTTIMM
  AUTTLOC
  AUTTSK
  AUTTTRT
  AWC
  BPSCOMB
  BPSC
  BPSECX
  BPSEI
  BPSF
  BPSR
  BPSTL
  BPST
  BPS
  DDA
  DD
  DENT
  DGAM
  DGBT
  DGCN
  DGCPT
  DGCR
  DGENA
  DGEN
  DGICD9
  DGIN
  DGMS
  DGMT
  DGM
  DGNT
  DGPF
  DGPM
  DGPR
  DGPT
  DGP
  DGQE
  DGRO
  DGRU
  DGSL
  DGS
  DGTF
  DGWAIT
  DG
  DIAR
  DIA
  DIBT
  DIC
  DIE
  DIPT
  DIST
  DISV
  DI
  DIZ
  DMSQ
  DOPT
  DPT
  DVB
  EAS
  ECC
  ECD
  ECH
  ECJ
  ECK
  ECL
  ECP
  ECR
  ECT
  ECX
  EC
  EDR
  EEO
  ENCSN
  ENGS
  ENG
  ESP
  FB583
  FB7078
  FBAAA
  FBAACNH
  FBAAC
  FBAAI
  FBAAV
  FBAA
  FBHL
  FB
  FHEN
  FHING
  FHNU
  FHPT
  FHUM
  FH
  FSCD
  FSC
  GECS
  GMPL
  GMRD
  GMR
  GMT
  HBHC
  HLCS
  HLEV
  HLMA
  HLS
  HL
  HOLIDAY
  IBAM
  IBAT
  IBA
  IBCNR
  IBCN
  IBD
  IBE
  IBM
  IBQ
  IBT
  IB
  ICD0
  ICD9
  ICDYZ
  ICD
  ICM
  ICPT
  IMR
  IVM
  KMPD
  KMPR
  KMPS
  LAB
  LAC
  LAHM
  LAM
  LAR
  LBRY
  LEXC
  LEXM
  LEXT
  LEX
  LRD
  LRE
  LRO
  LRT
  LR
  MAGDAUDT
  MAGDGEQR
  MAGDHL7
  MAGDICOM
  MAGDINPT
  MAGDMLOG
  MAGDOUTP
  MAGDWLST
  MAGD
  MAGIXCVT
  MAGQUEUE
  MAGRT
  MAG
  MCAR
  MDD
  MDS
  MPIF
  MR
  MXML
  NURQ
  NURSA
  NURSC
  NURSF
  NVSTEMP
  NVS
  OCXD
  OCXS
  OFM
  ONCO
  OOPS
  ORA
  ORD
  ORE
  ORRT
  ORYX
  OR
  PPP
  PRCAK
  PRCA
  PRCD
  PRCF
  PRCH
  PRCN
  PRCP
  PRCS
  PRCT
  PRCU
  PRC
  PRPFT
  PRPF
  PRSD
  PRSE
  PRSPC
  PRSP
  PRST
  PSB
  PSCST
  PSDRUG
  PSD
  PSI
  PSNDF
  PSNTRAN
  PSOARC
  PSRX
  PSUDEM
  PSXARC
  PSX
  PS
  PTX
  PXD
  PXRMD
  PXRMPT
  PXRMXP
  PXRMXT
  PXRM
  PX
  QA
  RABTCH
  RADPTN
  RADPT
  RAMIS
  RAO
  RARPT
  RA
  RCD
  RCPSE
  RCPSS
  RCPS
  RCT
  RCXV
  

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
The gurus need to weigh in on this, but from what I understand,  partitioning 
the globals might be something that would not be desireable, at least not 
until/unless VistA is reengineered to facilitate that sort of management. 

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 06:00 pm, gmartinson wrote:
 Bhaskar,

 I think this a good idea.  If one uses journaling and backups it would make
 the
 administration of backup and recovery easier by separating the critical
 mass from the mundane
 wouldn't it?  Also, the multiple databases would sort of be self
 documenting, i.e. what
 global var's go to what application.  Always useful knowledge for
 development purposes.

 gmartinson
 _

  Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:17:26 -0400
  From: K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization: Fidelity Information Services, Inc.
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
  Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 
  As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold
  (and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA live CD), it
  occurs to me that I could easily organize the global variables into
  multiple database files where it makes sense for them to be separate.
 
  For example, if there are global variables which are transient (e.g.,
  perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, one would just
  delete the old database file and create a new one, they could be put in
  a scratch region.
 
  If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on a Saturday
  night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in triplicate by
  someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood, then we could
  put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.
 
  And so on.
 
  If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables, I'll keep them
  all in one file as I have done to date.
 
  The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one to a line
  to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance for your
  assistance.
 
  -- Bhaskar
 
  --
  ABS
  ACK
  AFJ
  ALPB
  ANRV
  APSPQA
  AUPNPAT
  AUPNPROB
  AUPNVCPT
  AUPNVHF
  AUPNVIMM
  AUPNVPED
  AUPNVPOV
  AUPNVPRV
  AUPNVSIT
  AUPNVSK
  AUPNVTRT
  AUPNVXAM
  AUTNPOV
  AUTTEDT
  AUTTEXAM
  AUTTHF
  AUTTIMM
  AUTTLOC
  AUTTSK
  AUTTTRT
  AWC
  BPSCOMB
  BPSC
  BPSECX
  BPSEI
  BPSF
  BPSR
  BPSTL
  BPST
  BPS
  DDA
  DD
  DENT
  DGAM
  DGBT
  DGCN
  DGCPT
  DGCR
  DGENA
  DGEN
  DGICD9
  DGIN
  DGMS
  DGMT
  DGM
  DGNT
  DGPF
  DGPM
  DGPR
  DGPT
  DGP
  DGQE
  DGRO
  DGRU
  DGSL
  DGS
  DGTF
  DGWAIT
  DG
  DIAR
  DIA
  DIBT
  DIC
  DIE
  DIPT
  DIST
  DISV
  DI
  DIZ
  DMSQ
  DOPT
  DPT
  DVB
  EAS
  ECC
  ECD
  ECH
  ECJ
  ECK
  ECL
  ECP
  ECR
  ECT
  ECX
  EC
  EDR
  EEO
  ENCSN
  ENGS
  ENG
  ESP
  FB583
  FB7078
  FBAAA
  FBAACNH
  FBAAC
  FBAAI
  FBAAV
  FBAA
  FBHL
  FB
  FHEN
  FHING
  FHNU
  FHPT
  FHUM
  FH
  FSCD
  FSC
  GECS
  GMPL
  GMRD
  GMR
  GMT
  HBHC
  HLCS
  HLEV
  HLMA
  HLS
  HL
  HOLIDAY
  IBAM
  IBAT
  IBA
  IBCNR
  IBCN
  IBD
  IBE
  IBM
  IBQ
  IBT
  IB
  ICD0
  ICD9
  ICDYZ
  ICD
  ICM
  ICPT
  IMR
  IVM
  KMPD
  KMPR
  KMPS
  LAB
  LAC
  LAHM
  LAM
  LAR
  LBRY
  LEXC
  LEXM
  LEXT
  LEX
  LRD
  LRE
  LRO
  LRT
  LR
  MAGDAUDT
  MAGDGEQR
  MAGDHL7
  MAGDICOM
  MAGDINPT
  MAGDMLOG
  MAGDOUTP
  MAGDWLST
  MAGD
  MAGIXCVT
  MAGQUEUE
  MAGRT
  MAG
  MCAR
  MDD
  MDS
  MPIF
  MR
  MXML
  NURQ
  NURSA
  NURSC
  NURSF
  NVSTEMP
  NVS
  OCXD
  OCXS
  OFM
  ONCO
  OOPS
  ORA
  ORD
  ORE
  ORRT
  ORYX
  OR
  PPP
  PRCAK
  PRCA
  PRCD
  PRCF
  PRCH
  PRCN
  PRCP
  PRCS
  PRCT
  PRCU
  PRC
  PRPFT
  PRPF
  PRSD
  PRSE
  PRSPC
  PRSP
  PRST
  PSB
  PSCST
  PSDRUG
  PSD
  PSI
  PSNDF
  PSNTRAN
  PSOARC
  PSRX
  PSUDEM
  PSXARC
  PSX
  PS
  PTX
  PXD
  PXRMD
  PXRMPT
  PXRMXP
  PXRMXT
  PXRM
  PX
  QA
  RABTCH
  RADPTN
  RADPT
  RAMIS
  RAO
  RARPT
  RA
  RCD
  RCPSE
  RCPSS
  RCPS
  RCT
  RCXV
  RCY
  RC
  RGEQASN
  RGEQEXC
  RGEQ
  RGHL7
  RGSITE
  RGSTAT
  RMIM
  RMPF
  RMPO
  RMPRA
  RMPR
  RORDATA
  ROR
  RTV
  RT
  SCE
  SCPT
  SCRS
  SCTM
  SC
  SDAM
  SDASE
  SDASF
  SDD
  SDV
  SDWL
  SD
  SOWK
  SPNL
  SRF
  SRO
  SRP
  SRS
  SRU
  TIU
  USC
  USR
  VAS
  VAT
  VA
  VDEFHL7
  VIC
  VSIT
  WV
  XDRM
  XHD
  XHLP
  XIP
  XMBPOST
  XMBS
  XMBX
  XMB
  XMD
  XOB
  XPD
  XTV
  XT
  XUCM
  XUCS
  XUSEC
  XUSSPKI
  XWB
  YSA
  YSCL
  YSD
  YSG
  YSR
  YSTX
  YS
  YTD
  YTT
  YTX
  %ZISL
  %ZIS
  %ZRTL
  %ZTER
  %ZTSCH
  %ZTSK
  %ZUA
  %ZUT
  %Z
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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Title: Message









Hold the CTRL key down and type C.



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carroll, Richard (EDS)
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:05
PM
To:
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members]
The MUMPS Prompt



I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:

Learn M
and FM v21 for free
Download
this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File Manager v21. 

Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation,
so it is limited to 

a single user. Check out the readme.txt
for details.

I chose the download and the readme says:The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored inthe Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is that thethree files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in thefollowing path. C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the  of things...Thanks ~ Ric

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Gray
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21
PM
To:
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members]
The MUMPS Prompt



Are you using Cache or GT.M?











Jim Gray







- Original Message - 





From: Carroll,
Richard (EDS) 





To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net






Sent: Tuesday, June 21,
2005 12:09 PM





Subject: [Hardhats-members]
The MUMPS Prompt











I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am
trapped inside Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?











Thanks,











Ric












Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office comes out, we 
will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like never before.   
Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.  

So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because there are a 
bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those Cache 
questions.

Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it will only get 
worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You think it is 
neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some privacy!


On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
 but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
 VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be
 immeasurably helpful.



 It is starting to look like that. Don't think it was that when I
 subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the flavor. Now
 I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way./t






   _

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt



 Richard,
 If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If you're sticking
 with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and
 download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for Windows.
 http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html

 If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M MUMPS
 for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is
 mainly about a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in
 that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.



 On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:

 I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:

 Learn M and FM v21 for free
 Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File
 Manager v21.

 Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it is
 limited to

 a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
 I chose the download and the readme says:
 The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored in
 the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is that the
 three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the
 following path.

 C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
 It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to
 get to the  of things...
 Thanks ~ Ric

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
 Gray
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

 Are you using Cache or GT.M?

 Jim Gray

 - Original Message -
 From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

 I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am
 trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?

 Thanks,

 Ric

-- 
Nancy Anthracite


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Mainly Open/The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread James Gray



I too hope this group stays open and not just 
open-source. It should be open to discussion of any flavor of Mumps and 
any OS they will run on.
Jim Gray

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Thurman 
  Pedigo 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:14 
PM
  Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS 
  Prompt
  
  
  
  “but this group is mainly about a completely 
  open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this 
  group can be immeasurably helpful.”
  
  It is starting to look like that. Don’t think it was 
  that when I subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the flavor. Now I see a lot of 
  Linux. Guess I must have lost my way…/t
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chuck5566Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 
  PMTo: 
  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS 
  Prompt
  
  Richard,If you're running MSM 
  Workstation, that means Windows. If you're sticking with Windows, then I 
  suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and download their free, 
  single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for 
  Windows.http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.htmlIf 
  you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M MUMPS for 
  Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is mainly about 
  a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at 
  least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.On Jun 21, 2005, 
  at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:
  I'm not sure, the hardhats web site 
  said:Learn M and FM v21 for freeDownload this 
  free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File Manager v21. 
  Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM 
  Workstation, so it is limited to a single user. Check 
  out the readme.txt for 
  details.I chose the download 
  and the readme says:The FM.EXE file runs 
  the VA's File Manager program from the data stored inthe Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, 
  is that thethree files 
  (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in 
  thefollowing 
  path.C:\Program 
  Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\It comes up right at 
  the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the  of 
  things...Thanks ~ Ric-Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James GraySent: 
  Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PMTo: 
  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: 
  Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS PromptAre 
  you using Cache or GT.M?Jim 
  Gray
  - 
  Original Message -From: 
Carroll, Richard 
  (EDS) To: 
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  Sent: 
  Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PMSubject: 
  [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS PromptI 
  went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am trapped 
  inside Fileman! How can I get to a MUMPS 
  prompt?Thanks,Ric


Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
SlappingForehead/

Good grief...it didn't even occur to me that absolute pathnames would
be munged like this depending on your environment variables. I don't
know why not.

--- Mark Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I followed this thread to the end and thought I would jump in at this
 point.
 
 It seems to me that we are dealing with an environment issue.  What
 does 
 vista's .bash_profile say for gtm_vista and vista_home variables?
 
 It may not allow you to create files outside of vista_home if
 vista_home 
 = /home/vista/OpenVistA
 
 It was difficult to follow this thread as it was an offshoot of
 another 
 thread.
 
 On Monday 20 June 2005 20:46, Usha wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$ ls -ld /home/vista/VistA
  drwxrwxrwx4 vistavista4096 Jun 17 11:40
 /home/vista/VistA
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$
 
  Usha
  - Original Message -
  From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting
 
 
  Is it a link? Try
 
  ls -ld /home/vista/VistA
 
  --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I tried opening a file in /home/vista/VistA
  
   GTMS
   Y=$$GTF^%ZISH($NA(^DPT(1,0)),2,/home/vista/VistA/,MYFILE.DAT)
  
   GTM
  
   But the file is created in /home/vista/OpenVistA directory.
   I also tried /tmp
  
   GTMS Y=$$GTF^%ZISH($NA(^DPT(1,0)),2,/tmp,MYFILE.DAT)
  
   GTMh
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -ld /tmp
   drwxrwxrwt   14 root root 4096 Jun 20 09:30 /tmp
  
   But there is no file in /tmp directory too.
  
   Regards
   Usha
   - Original Message -
   From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:13 PM
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while
 exporting
  
  
   I haven't recently tested the OPEN function, but I am
   using FTG and GTF^%ZISH -- which I think indirectly
   calls OPEN.  It is working without any restrictions.
  
   Kevin
  
   --- smcphelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only thing that make sense to me is that you do
not have read/write
privileges to those other directories.  All %ZISH is
doing is issuing an
OPEN command.  Perhaps there is some peculiarities
of the OPEN command
syntax within GT.M that %ZISH is not honoring.  But
I do not believe that is
the case.  Can anyone else on this thread use
OPEN^%ZISH on GT.M for any
directory. especially any directory that is not part
of the GT.M
installation?
  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING SPECIALTY

2005-06-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Trivia here, but I think that the VAs are often associated with Medical 
schools, and the Medical Schools have the Departments, such as Deparment of 
Medicine, and the hospitals have the Services, which are usually the 
patients, wards, etc., assigned to the Medicine folks (and that the Surgeons 
want to transfer their patients to as soon as the operation is over! ;-))

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 02:24 pm, James Gray wrote:
 Within the VA what most of the rest of the English speaking world would
 call a department, the VA calls a Service.  Sub-departments are called
 Sections.  So Sections are subsets of the services.

 Jim Gray
   - Original Message -
   From: Usha
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:39 AM
   Subject: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING
 SPECIALTY


   What does the SERVICE/SECTION field specify for a NEW PERSON? And how to
 specify the specialty of a provider?

   What does TREATING SPECIALTY file contain?
   Which one of them (or a third one) holds the specialty of a clinic or
 ward? If TREATING SECIALITY is the one, then TREATING SPECIALTY SET-UP
 option does not allow adding of new specialties (it comes to the GT.M
 prompt).



   Regards
   Usha

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Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Mark Street
Is it really going to be 'that good'?

I am cleaning up some programming projects and setting aside some brainspace 
right now so when it comes out I have some room in the cortex.

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 13:51, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
 Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office comes out,
 we will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like never
 before. Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.

 So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because there are a
 bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those Cache
 questions.

 Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it will only
 get worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You think
 it is neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some privacy!

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[Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-21 Thread Theriot, Derek








I am trying to populate the NEW PERSON file by reading a
text file I received from an existing application. I have written a
routine that will read the file and create the FDA array. However when it
gets to the UPDATE^DIE call, I get the following message:



. S DIEFNIEN[EMAIL PROTECTED]@($TR(P,+?))

 ^

UNDEFINEDADDCONV+5^DIEF1



I am only trying to load a few fields for now just to try to
get it working. I think I have the required fields covered (NAME,
SERVICE/SECTION). Is there something Im missing? Does anyone
have a better suggestion for accomplishing this?



Thanks.












RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Thurman Pedigo
I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I should change to Linux
while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it yet. .../t
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
 Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office comes out,
 we
 will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like never before.
 Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
 
 So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because there are a
 bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those Cache
 questions.
 
 Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it will only
 get
 worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You think it
 is
 neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some privacy!
 
 
 On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
  but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
  VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be
  immeasurably helpful.
 
 
 
  It is starting to look like that. Don't think it was that when I
  subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the flavor.
 Now
  I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way./t
 
 
 
 
 
 
_
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
 
 
  Richard,
  If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If you're
 sticking
  with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and
  download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for Windows.
  http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
 
  If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M MUMPS
  for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is
  mainly about a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in
  that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.
 
 
 
  On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:
 
  I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
 
  Learn M and FM v21 for free
  Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run File
  Manager v21.
 
  Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so it
 is
  limited to
 
  a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
  I chose the download and the readme says:
  The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data stored
 in
  the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is that the
  three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in the
  following path.
 
  C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
  It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I wanted
 to
  get to the  of things...
  Thanks ~ Ric
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
  Gray
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
  Are you using Cache or GT.M?
 
  Jim Gray
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
  I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am
  trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Ric
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread Mark Street
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 06:44, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
 4. Network services can now be written in GT.M and deployed under
 inetd/xinetd.

 [KSB] This will allow the new direct connect CPRS GUI to be used more
 easily.  Effectively, it means that VistA can be packaged  deployed
 like other network services under inetd/xinetd, which is a standard way
 of deploying network services on UNIX/Linux.

StandAlone vs xinetd/inetd superserver.  Can it still be run stand alone?

In a busy institution what would the benefits of using a superserver rather 
than standalone process?  Ease of configuration?  System Resources?  
Connection control?

Usually less often used services are run under xinetd/inetd to save system 
resources and fine tune security and connection control.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I guess we'll find out.

Believe me...I empathize. I am swimming (drowing?) in projects.

--- Mark Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it really going to be 'that good'?
 
 I am cleaning up some programming projects and setting aside some
 brainspace 
 right now so when it comes out I have some room in the cortex.
 
 On Tuesday 21 June 2005 13:51, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
  Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office
 comes out,
  we will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like
 never
  before. Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
 
  So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because
 there are a
  bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those Cache
  questions.
 
  Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it will
 only
  get worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You
 think
  it is neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some
 privacy!
 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING SPECIALTY

2005-06-21 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Anyone ever wonder what VistA (AND EHR) could have been if all the Medical
Schools had gotten behind it instead of playing KING OF THE HILL?

thurman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:02 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING
 SPECIALTY
 
 Trivia here, but I think that the VAs are often associated with Medical
 schools, and the Medical Schools have the Departments, such as Deparment
 of
 Medicine, and the hospitals have the Services, which are usually the
 patients, wards, etc., assigned to the Medicine folks (and that the
 Surgeons
 want to transfer their patients to as soon as the operation is over! ;-))
 
 On Tuesday 21 June 2005 02:24 pm, James Gray wrote:
  Within the VA what most of the rest of the English speaking world would
  call a department, the VA calls a Service.  Sub-departments are called
  Sections.  So Sections are subsets of the services.
 
  Jim Gray
- Original Message -
From: Usha
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:39 AM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING
  SPECIALTY
 
 
What does the SERVICE/SECTION field specify for a NEW PERSON? And how
 to
  specify the specialty of a provider?
 
What does TREATING SPECIALTY file contain?
Which one of them (or a third one) holds the specialty of a clinic or
  ward? If TREATING SECIALITY is the one, then TREATING SPECIALTY SET-UP
  option does not allow adding of new specialties (it comes to the GT.M
  prompt).
 
 
 
Regards
Usha
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread smcphelan
The partitioning of the globals is or is not needed.  For a single doctor's
office with 2-5 users, it probably does not make sense.  For a serious
implementation at a sizeable medical center (or an outpatient clinic with
many providers) it makes absolutely perfect sense.  If you look at the
larger VA sites they will have the globals partitioned over 15 - 30 virtual
volume sets spreading the IO out over multiple spindles and disk
controllers.  Even for the single doctor's office it makes sense to
partition out two scratch globals: ^TMP and ^UTILITY.  On my Cache system I
have these two globals translated to the CACHETEMP namespace.  CACHE does
the same thing that Bhaskar mentioned.  Any globals in CACHETEMP will be
KILLed whenever Cache is started.   Sorry, Bhaskar, but those are the only
two globals that could go in such a volume set.  All other VistA globals,
even ones considered temporary, need to be managed by the appropriate VistA
application and not the M implementation.

- Original Message - 
From: gmartinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning


 Bhaskar,

 I think this a good idea.  If one uses journaling and backups it would
make
 the
 administration of backup and recovery easier by separating the critical
mass
 from the mundane
 wouldn't it?  Also, the multiple databases would sort of be self
 documenting, i.e. what
 global var's go to what application.  Always useful knowledge for
 development purposes.

 gmartinson
 _

  Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:17:26 -0400
  From: K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Organization: Fidelity Information Services, Inc.
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
  Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 
  As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold
  (and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA live CD), it
  occurs to me that I could easily organize the global variables into
  multiple database files where it makes sense for them to be separate.
 
  For example, if there are global variables which are transient (e.g.,
  perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, one would just
  delete the old database file and create a new one, they could be put in
  a scratch region.
 
  If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on a Saturday
  night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in triplicate by
  someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood, then we could
  put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.
 
  And so on.
 
  If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables, I'll keep them
  all in one file as I have done to date.
 
  The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one to a line
  to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance for your
  assistance.
 
  -- Bhaskar
 
  --
  ABS
  ACK
  AFJ
  ALPB
  ANRV
  APSPQA
  AUPNPAT
  AUPNPROB
  AUPNVCPT
  AUPNVHF
  AUPNVIMM
  AUPNVPED
  AUPNVPOV
  AUPNVPRV
  AUPNVSIT
  AUPNVSK
  AUPNVTRT
  AUPNVXAM
  AUTNPOV
  AUTTEDT
  AUTTEXAM
  AUTTHF
  AUTTIMM
  AUTTLOC
  AUTTSK
  AUTTTRT
  AWC
  BPSCOMB
  BPSC
  BPSECX
  BPSEI
  BPSF
  BPSR
  BPSTL
  BPST
  BPS
  DDA
  DD
  DENT
  DGAM
  DGBT
  DGCN
  DGCPT
  DGCR
  DGENA
  DGEN
  DGICD9
  DGIN
  DGMS
  DGMT
  DGM
  DGNT
  DGPF
  DGPM
  DGPR
  DGPT
  DGP
  DGQE
  DGRO
  DGRU
  DGSL
  DGS
  DGTF
  DGWAIT
  DG
  DIAR
  DIA
  DIBT
  DIC
  DIE
  DIPT
  DIST
  DISV
  DI
  DIZ
  DMSQ
  DOPT
  DPT
  DVB
  EAS
  ECC
  ECD
  ECH
  ECJ
  ECK
  ECL
  ECP
  ECR
  ECT
  ECX
  EC
  EDR
  EEO
  ENCSN
  ENGS
  ENG
  ESP
  FB583
  FB7078
  FBAAA
  FBAACNH
  FBAAC
  FBAAI
  FBAAV
  FBAA
  FBHL
  FB
  FHEN
  FHING
  FHNU
  FHPT
  FHUM
  FH
  FSCD
  FSC
  GECS
  GMPL
  GMRD
  GMR
  GMT
  HBHC
  HLCS
  HLEV
  HLMA
  HLS
  HL
  HOLIDAY
  IBAM
  IBAT
  IBA
  IBCNR
  IBCN
  IBD
  IBE
  IBM
  IBQ
  IBT
  IB
  ICD0
  ICD9
  ICDYZ
  ICD
  ICM
  ICPT
  IMR
  IVM
  KMPD
  KMPR
  KMPS
  LAB
  LAC
  LAHM
  LAM
  LAR
  LBRY
  LEXC
  LEXM
  LEXT
  LEX
  LRD
  LRE
  LRO
  LRT
  LR
  MAGDAUDT
  MAGDGEQR
  MAGDHL7
  MAGDICOM
  MAGDINPT
  MAGDMLOG
  MAGDOUTP
  MAGDWLST
  MAGD
  MAGIXCVT
  MAGQUEUE
  MAGRT
  MAG
  MCAR
  MDD
  MDS
  MPIF
  MR
  MXML
  NURQ
  NURSA
  NURSC
  NURSF
  NVSTEMP
  NVS
  OCXD
  OCXS
  OFM
  ONCO
  OOPS
  ORA
  ORD
  ORE
  ORRT
  ORYX
  OR
  PPP
  PRCAK
  PRCA
  PRCD
  PRCF
  PRCH
  PRCN
  PRCP
  PRCS
  PRCT
  PRCU
  PRC
  PRPFT
  PRPF
  PRSD
  PRSE
  PRSPC
  PRSP
  PRST
  PSB
  PSCST
  PSDRUG
  PSD
  PSI
  PSNDF
  PSNTRAN
  PSOARC
  PSRX
  PSUDEM
  PSXARC
  PSX
  PS
  PTX
  PXD
  PXRMD
  PXRMPT
  PXRMXP
  PXRMXT
  PXRM
  PX
  QA
  RABTCH
  RADPTN
  RADPT
  RAMIS
  RAO
  RARPT
  RA
  RCD
  RCPSE
  RCPSS
  RCPS
  RCT
  RCXV
  RCY
  RC
  RGEQASN
  RGEQEXC
  RGEQ
  RGHL7
  

RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I'll be ready when GT.M runs on OS X. (Yes, and I know Apple has
announce a move to Intel.)

This may sound like a crazy idea, but wouldn't we benefit from having
people proficient in Cache, in GT.M, in Linux, in OS X, FreeBSD,
Windows, and perhaps other platforms?

Making applications available on only one platform strikes me as a case
of shoot self in foot.

As a group, I wish we could stay out of My favorite OS is better than
your favorite OS wars and stick to medical records (or who knows?
maybe even other uses of computers in medicine).


--- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I should change to
 Linux
 while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it yet. .../t
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:hardhats-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
  Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office
 comes out,
  we
  will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like never
 before.
  Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
  
  So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because
 there are a
  bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those Cache
  questions.
  
  Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it will
 only
  get
  worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You
 think it
  is
  neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some
 privacy!
  
  
  On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
   but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
   VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can
 be
   immeasurably helpful.
  
  
  
   It is starting to look like that. Don't think it was that when I
   subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the
 flavor.
  Now
   I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way./t
  
  
  
  
  
  
 _
  
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of
   chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
  
  
   Richard,
   If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If you're
  sticking
   with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site
 and
   download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for
 Windows.
   http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
  
   If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at
 GT.M MUMPS
   for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this
 group is
   mainly about a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux,
 and in
   that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.
  
  
  
   On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:
  
   I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
  
   Learn M and FM v21 for free
   Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to
 run File
   Manager v21.
  
   Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation,
 so it
  is
   limited to
  
   a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
   I chose the download and the readme says:
   The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data
 stored
  in
   the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is that
 the
   three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored
 in the
   following path.
  
   C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
   It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I
 wanted
  to
   get to the  of things...
   Thanks ~ Ric
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of James
   Gray
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
   Are you using Cache or GT.M?
  
   Jim Gray
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
   Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
   I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I
 am
   trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Ric
  
  --
  Nancy Anthracite
  
  
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RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-21 Thread Thurman Pedigo










Presume you went through PATIENT FILE and deleted
all the Required Field iterations? Another option is to stuff
the fields using /// or  -force. Would first
add a complete record (YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY FIELDS) before trying stuff
or UPDATE^DIE.



thurman















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Theriot, Derek
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:53
PM
To:
hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members]
UPDATE^DIE





I am trying to populate the NEW PERSON file by reading a
text file I received from an existing application. I have written a routine
that will read the file and create the FDA array. However when it gets to
the UPDATE^DIE call, I get the following message:



. S DIEFNIEN[EMAIL PROTECTED]@($TR(P,+?))

 ^

UNDEFINEDADDCONV+5^DIEF1



I am only trying to load a few fields for now just to try to
get it working. I think I have the required fields covered (NAME,
SERVICE/SECTION). Is there something Im missing? Does anyone
have a better suggestion for accomplishing this?



Thanks.














RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
OS X is a BSD variant and GTM should run in Linux compatible mode.

Thanks

Marc Aylesworth

C3I Associates 

AFRL/IFSE

Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team

525 Brooks Rd

Rome, NY 13441-4505

Tel:315.330.2422

Fax:315.330.7009

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Woodhouse
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:11 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

I'll be ready when GT.M runs on OS X. (Yes, and I know Apple has
announce a move to Intel.)

This may sound like a crazy idea, but wouldn't we benefit from having
people proficient in Cache, in GT.M, in Linux, in OS X, FreeBSD,
Windows, and perhaps other platforms?

Making applications available on only one platform strikes me as a case
of shoot self in foot.

As a group, I wish we could stay out of My favorite OS is better than
your favorite OS wars and stick to medical records (or who knows?
maybe even other uses of computers in medicine).


--- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I should change to
 Linux
 while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it yet. .../t
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:hardhats-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
  Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office
 comes out,
  we
  will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like never
 before.
  Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
  
  So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because
 there are a
  bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those Cache
  questions.
  
  Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it will
 only
  get
  worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You
 think it
  is
  neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some
 privacy!
  
  
  On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
   but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
   VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can
 be
   immeasurably helpful.
  
  
  
   It is starting to look like that. Don't think it was that when I
   subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the
 flavor.
  Now
   I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way./t
  
  
  
  
  
  
 _
  
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of
   chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
  
  
   Richard,
   If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If you're
  sticking
   with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web site
 and
   download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for
 Windows.
   http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
  
   If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at
 GT.M MUMPS
   for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this
 group is
   mainly about a completely open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux,
 and in
   that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.
  
  
  
   On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:
  
   I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
  
   Learn M and FM v21 for free
   Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to
 run File
   Manager v21.
  
   Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation,
 so it
  is
   limited to
  
   a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
   I chose the download and the readme says:
   The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data
 stored
  in
   the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is that
 the
   three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored
 in the
   following path.
  
   C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
   It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I
 wanted
  to
   get to the  of things...
   Thanks ~ Ric
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of James
   Gray
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
   Are you using Cache or GT.M?
  
   Jim Gray
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
   Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
   I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I
 am
   trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Ric
  
  --
  Nancy Anthracite
  
  
  

RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I'd start by looking at the option XUSERNEW and thinking about how to
make it non-interactive. Trying to add a whole record in one fell swoop
might be possible for file 200. File 2, well, I think trying to add
everything in one UPDATE^DIE call would be a disaster.

--- Theriot, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am very new at this so I'm not sure what you mean by building the
 entries
 incrementally.  Do you mean inserting the data straight into the
 globals?  I
 was hoping to use UPDATE^DIE since it does all of the indexing...(at
 least
 that's what the documentation says).
 
 Anyway, can you provide me with a starting point and maybe a short
 summary
 of what would be involved.
 
 What I am trying to do is populate file 200 with data from our Doctor
 Master
 file.  Since I work for a large university with several hospitals, we
 have a
 few thousand doctors that would need to be entered.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Greg
 Woodhouse
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:03 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE
 
 There are a few files like 2 and 200 that have so much logic built
 into
 the DD (try looking at a standard listing) that doing bulk updates
 like
 this is all but a lost cause. You can try tracking it down, but most
 likely you'll have to build your entries incrementally, following the
 logic in the Registration module, or something similar.
 
 (Editorial aside: I don't think things have to be that way, they just
 are.)
 
 --- Theriot, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am trying to populate the NEW PERSON file by reading a text file
 I
  received from an existing application.  I have written a routine
 that
  will
  read the file and create the FDA array.  However when it gets to
 the
  UPDATE^DIE call, I get the following message:
  
   
  
  . S [EMAIL PROTECTED]@($TR(P,+?))
  
 ^
  
  UNDEFINEDADDCONV+5^DIEF1
  
   
  
  I am only trying to load a few fields for now just to try to get it
  working.
  I think I have the required fields covered (NAME, SERVICE/SECTION).
 
  Is
  there something I'm missing?  Does anyone have a better suggestion
  for
  accomplishing this?
  
   
  
  Thanks.
  
   
  
   
  
  
 
 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Yes...I know that. Of course, it still runs on the PowerPC. I don't
know if there's a publicly available Darwin port for Intel (yet).

--- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OS X is a BSD variant and GTM should run in Linux compatible mode.
 
 Thanks
 
 Marc Aylesworth
 
 C3I Associates 
 
 AFRL/IFSE
 
 Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
 
 525 Brooks Rd
 
 Rome, NY 13441-4505
 
 Tel:315.330.2422
 
 Fax:315.330.7009
 
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Greg
 Woodhouse
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:11 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
 I'll be ready when GT.M runs on OS X. (Yes, and I know Apple has
 announce a move to Intel.)
 
 This may sound like a crazy idea, but wouldn't we benefit from having
 people proficient in Cache, in GT.M, in Linux, in OS X, FreeBSD,
 Windows, and perhaps other platforms?
 
 Making applications available on only one platform strikes me as a
 case
 of shoot self in foot.
 
 As a group, I wish we could stay out of My favorite OS is better
 than
 your favorite OS wars and stick to medical records (or who knows?
 maybe even other uses of computers in medicine).
 
 
 --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I should change
 to
  Linux
  while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it yet. .../t
   
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:hardhats-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
 Anthracite
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
   Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office
  comes out,
   we
   will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like never
  before.
   Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
   
   So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because
  there are a
   bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those
 Cache
   questions.
   
   Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it
 will
  only
   get
   worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You
  think it
   is
   neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some
  privacy!
   
   
   On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack
 of
VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group
 can
  be
immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
It is starting to look like that. Don't think it was that when
 I
subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the
  flavor.
   Now
I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way./t
   
   
   
   
   
   
  _
   
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  Of
chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
   
   
Richard,
If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If
 you're
   sticking
with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web
 site
  and
download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for
  Windows.
http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
   
If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at
  GT.M MUMPS
for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this
  group is
mainly about a completely open-source stack of
 VistA/MUMPS/Linux,
  and in
that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:
   
I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
   
Learn M and FM v21 for free
Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to
  run File
Manager v21.
   
Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM
 Workstation,
  so it
   is
limited to
   
a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
I chose the download and the readme says:
The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the
 data
  stored
   in
the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is
 that
  the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored
  in the
following path.
   
C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but
 I
  wanted
   to
get to the  of things...
Thanks ~ Ric
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  Of James
Gray
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
Are you using Cache or GT.M?
   
Jim Gray
   
- Original 

Re: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I did bulk enrollment and was able to get it working. 
I also had to bump around in the dark a bit to figure
out how to do it.

Here is what VPE says are the required fields:

 Required Fields..
  FLD NUMDD  FIELD NAME
 --      --
.01200   NAME
   10.1200   NAME COMPONENTS
 29200   SERVICE/SECTION
  1200.541   LICENSE NUMBER
  2200.541   EXPIRATION DATE
  1 200.55   STATE DEA NUMBER
.02   200.010113 EFFECTIVE DATE
  1200.005   NETWORK ADDRESS FIRST NAME
  747.1200   SERVICE
  2 200.05   Effective Date
8980.16200   PERSON FILE POINTER


I think this is an unhelpful list, however.  Because
all those with a DD number other than 200 are not
really required.  And I don't think I ever supplied a
value for field 8980.16  Also, I think that a social
security number is required, and patient sex, and DOB.
 It seems like if you look at the error messages sent
back from the database API calls, it will tell you
what is missing.

Kevin





MAIN_MENU  EXIT


--- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 There are a few files like 2 and 200 that have so
 much logic built into
 the DD (try looking at a standard listing) that
 doing bulk updates like
 this is all but a lost cause. You can try tracking
 it down, but most
 likely you'll have to build your entries
 incrementally, following the
 logic in the Registration module, or something
 similar.
 
 (Editorial aside: I don't think things have to be
 that way, they just
 are.)
 
 --- Theriot, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am trying to populate the NEW PERSON file by
 reading a text file I
  received from an existing application.  I have
 written a routine that
  will
  read the file and create the FDA array.  However
 when it gets to the
  UPDATE^DIE call, I get the following message:
  
   
  
  . S [EMAIL PROTECTED]@($TR(P,+?))
  
 ^
  
  UNDEFINEDADDCONV+5^DIEF1
  
   
  
  I am only trying to load a few fields for now just
 to try to get it
  working.
  I think I have the required fields covered (NAME,
 SERVICE/SECTION). 
  Is
  there something I'm missing?  Does anyone have a
 better suggestion
  for
  accomplishing this?
  
   
  
  Thanks.
  
   
  
   
  
  
 
 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-21 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
In file 200 I file some address information, etc.  Here's the snip of the
code:

S DIC=^VA(200,,DIC(0)=F D DO^DIC1
S X=$P(L1,U)
L +^VA(200,AA) S DA=$O(^VA(200,AA),-1) D FILE^DICN L
-^VA(200,AA) I +Y0 W !,Error G ACTIVATE
S IEN=+Y_,
K FDA,^TMP(DIERR,$J)
S FDA(200,IEN,1)=$P(L2,U,2)
S FDA(200,IEN,.111)=$P(L1,U,2)
S FDA(200,IEN,.112)=$P(L1,U,3)
S FDA(200,IEN,.114)=$P(L1,U,4)
S FDA(200,IEN,.115)=$P(L1,U,5)
S FDA(200,IEN,.116)=$P(L1,U,6)
S FDA(200,IEN,.131)=$P(L1,U,7)
S FDA(200,IEN,.132)=$P(L1,U,8)
S FDA(200,IEN,.151)=$P(L2,U)
S FDA(200,IEN,201)=10217
S FDA(200,IEN,250.01)=$P(L1,U,10)
S FDA(200,IEN,250.02)=$P(L1,U,11)
; Generate a unique ACCESS CODE
F  S XUU=$$AC^XUS4 S (X,XUH)=$$EN^XUSHSH(XUU)
Q:'($D(^VA(200,A,X))!$D(^VA(200,AOLD,X)))
S FDA(200,IEN,2)=XUH
D FILE^DIE(,FDA) ; File the new user's information in the New
Person file
I $D(^TMP(DIERR,$J)) W !,Error on file K ^TMP(DIERR,$J) G
ACTIVATE
S Y=+IEN I $D(^XMB(3.7,Y,0))[0 D NEW^XM ;Make sure the new user has
a Mailbox

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Woodhouse
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:03 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

There are a few files like 2 and 200 that have so much logic built into
the DD (try looking at a standard listing) that doing bulk updates like
this is all but a lost cause. You can try tracking it down, but most
likely you'll have to build your entries incrementally, following the
logic in the Registration module, or something similar.

(Editorial aside: I don't think things have to be that way, they just
are.)

--- Theriot, Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to populate the NEW PERSON file by reading a text file I
 received from an existing application.  I have written a routine that
 will
 read the file and create the FDA array.  However when it gets to the
 UPDATE^DIE call, I get the following message:
 
  
 
 . S [EMAIL PROTECTED]@($TR(P,+?))
 
^
 
 UNDEFINEDADDCONV+5^DIEF1
 
  
 
 I am only trying to load a few fields for now just to try to get it
 working.
 I think I have the required fields covered (NAME, SERVICE/SECTION). 
 Is
 there something I'm missing?  Does anyone have a better suggestion
 for
 accomplishing this?
 
  
 
 Thanks.
 
  
 
  
 
 


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Mainly Open/The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Gosh, we're too small a group for infighting.  If we
subdivide M supporters the resulting groups will be a
bit on the small side.

So all flavors welcome..
Kevin


--- James Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I too hope this group stays open and not just
 open-source.  It should be open to discussion of any
 flavor of Mumps and any OS they will run on.
 Jim Gray
   - Original Message - 
   From: Thurman Pedigo 
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:14 PM
   Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
 
   but this group is mainly about a completely
 open-source stack of VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that
 respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably
 helpful.
 

 
   It is starting to look like that. Don't think it
 was that when I subscribed. Thought Hardhats was
 about VistA, regardless of the flavor. Now I see a
 lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way./t

 

 

 
 

--
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of chuck5566
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 

 
   Richard,
   If you're running MSM Workstation, that means
 Windows. If you're sticking with Windows, then I
 suggest you go to the InterSystems web site and
 download their free, single-user version of Cache
 (MUMPS) for Windows.
  

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
 
   If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you
 should look at GT.M MUMPS for Linux on SourceForge.
 Nothing wrong with Cache, but this group is mainly
 about a completely open-source stack of
 VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least,
 this group can be immeasurably helpful.
 
 
 
   On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard
 (EDS) wrote:
 
   I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
 
   Learn M and FM v21 for free
   Download this free version of M that has been
 pre-configured to run File Manager v21. 
 
   Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with
 MSM Workstation, so it is limited to 
 
   a single user. Check out the readme.txt for
 details.
   I chose the download and the readme says:
   The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program
 from the data stored in
   the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current
 edition, is that the
   three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m)
 must be stored in the
   following path.
 
   C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
   It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and
 Fileman's great but I wanted to get to the  of
 things...
   Thanks ~ Ric
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of James Gray
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
   Are you using Cache or GT.M?

   Jim Gray
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Carroll, Richard (EDS) 
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
   Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
   I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman
 to my PC but I am trapped inside Fileman!  How can I
 get to a MUMPS prompt?

   Thanks,

   Ric
 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I'm just ready for it yet. .../t   

Freudian slip?  :-) Kevin

Get an older computer and run one of the newer Linux
distros.  Its not as painful as one might think.  I
was intimitated initially by Linux too.  But its not
so bad.

Kevin


  

--- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I
 should change to Linux
 while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it
 yet. .../t
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:hardhats-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Nancy Anthracite
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
  Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when
 VistA-Office comes out,
  we
  will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing
 newbies like never before.
  Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
  
  So, Thurman, you are going to be an important
 resource because there are a
  bunch on this list that won't be able to help much
 with those Cache
  questions.
  
  Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this
 list now, it will only
  get
  worse.  I think it is going to be like being a
 movie star.  You think it
  is
  neat to be discovered until you are, and then you
 want some privacy!
  
  
  On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo
 wrote:
   but this group is mainly about a completely
 open-source stack of
   VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at
 least, this group can be
   immeasurably helpful.
  
  
  
   It is starting to look like that. Don't think it
 was that when I
   subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA,
 regardless of the flavor.
  Now
   I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my
 way./t
  
  
  
  
  
  
 _
  
   From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of
   chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
  
  
   Richard,
   If you're running MSM Workstation, that means
 Windows. If you're
  sticking
   with Windows, then I suggest you go to the
 InterSystems web site and
   download their free, single-user version of
 Cache (MUMPS) for Windows.
  

http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
  
   If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you
 should look at GT.M MUMPS
   for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with
 Cache, but this group is
   mainly about a completely open-source stack of
 VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in
   that respect, at least, this group can be
 immeasurably helpful.
  
  
  
   On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard
 (EDS) wrote:
  
   I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
  
   Learn M and FM v21 for free
   Download this free version of M that has been
 pre-configured to run File
   Manager v21.
  
   Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with
 MSM Workstation, so it
  is
   limited to
  
   a single user. Check out the readme.txt for
 details.
   I chose the download and the readme says:
   The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager
 program from the data stored
  in
   the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current
 edition, is that the
   three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m)
 must be stored in the
   following path.
  
   C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
   It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and
 Fileman's great but I wanted
  to
   get to the  of things...
   Thanks ~ Ric
  
   -Original Message-
   From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of James
   Gray
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
   Are you using Cache or GT.M?
  
   Jim Gray
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
   Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
   I went to the hardhats page and downloaded
 Fileman to my PC but I am
   trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a
 MUMPS prompt?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Ric
  
  --
  Nancy Anthracite
  
  
 

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Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread whitten
 
 but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
 VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be
 immeasurably helpful.  
 
 It is starting to look like that. Don't think it was that when I subscribed.
 Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the flavor. Now I see a lot
 of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way.

I don't think hardhats is solely about the VistA/MUMPS/Linux stack. 
It is true that there are many questions I have seen that have come from 
people using the open source stack, however many of the questions are
independent of what flavour of Operating System and MUMPS is being used.

I expect some of the Linux related questions come about because the Linux
security architecture is different than Windows, but these same questions
would come up if someone were using Cache on Linux as well.

The intricacies of VistA data structures and tools are totally independent
of the MUMPS and OS as well. 

As to the open source nature, I suggest that the freely available source
code to VistA is primarily a starting point which allows many questions
about how the hospital informatio system actually work to be accurately 
queried rather than an issue of licensing and all the involved advocacy 
questions which typically come up when discussing Open Source.

I feel Hardhats is primarily about VistA, regardless of the MUMPS
implementation and Operating System.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I think you have hit the nail on the head with your last sentence.  The old 
RPC broker pretty much required that the server and clients be on the same 
network to provide secuity for the system because of the way the callback was 
made to the server.  The new broker fixed that but did not work well with 
previous versions of GT.M,  With this new configuration,  secure remote 
connections from CPRS to the server can be set up allowing for ASP use of 
VistA with GTM on Linux as well as the other platforms while opening only one 
port. 

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:00 pm, Mark Street wrote:
 On Tuesday 07 June 2005 06:44, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
  4. Network services can now be written in GT.M and deployed under
  inetd/xinetd.
 
  [KSB] This will allow the new direct connect CPRS GUI to be used more
  easily.  Effectively, it means that VistA can be packaged  deployed
  like other network services under inetd/xinetd, which is a standard way
  of deploying network services on UNIX/Linux.

 StandAlone vs xinetd/inetd superserver.  Can it still be run stand alone?

 In a busy institution what would the benefits of using a superserver rather
 than standalone process?  Ease of configuration?  System Resources?
 Connection control?

 Usually less often used services are run under xinetd/inetd to save system
 resources and fine tune security and connection control.

-- 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
I'm not intimidated by Linux at all. Through all of undergraduate and
graduate school I used Unix (from V7 to BSD 4.3) every day, for
everything from programming to writing term papers. I was a pretty
decent C programmer long before I had even touched a system running DOS
or Windows. I once even had a job administering a network of Sun
workstations. Oh, and I'm a pretty good programmer, too!



--- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm just ready for it yet. .../t   
 
 Freudian slip?  :-) Kevin
 
 Get an older computer and run one of the newer Linux
 distros.  Its not as painful as one might think.  I
 was intimitated initially by Linux too.  But its not
 so bad.
 
 Kevin
 
 
   
 
 --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I
  should change to Linux
  while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it
  yet. .../t
   
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:hardhats-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Nancy Anthracite
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
   Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when
  VistA-Office comes out,
   we
   will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing
  newbies like never before.
   Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
   
   So, Thurman, you are going to be an important
  resource because there are a
   bunch on this list that won't be able to help much
  with those Cache
   questions.
   
   Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this
  list now, it will only
   get
   worse.  I think it is going to be like being a
  movie star.  You think it
   is
   neat to be discovered until you are, and then you
  want some privacy!
   
   
   On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo
  wrote:
but this group is mainly about a completely
  open-source stack of
VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at
  least, this group can be
immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
It is starting to look like that. Don't think it
  was that when I
subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA,
  regardless of the flavor.
   Now
I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my
  way./t
   
   
   
   
   
   
  _
   
From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of
chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
   
   
Richard,
If you're running MSM Workstation, that means
  Windows. If you're
   sticking
with Windows, then I suggest you go to the
  InterSystems web site and
download their free, single-user version of
  Cache (MUMPS) for Windows.
   
 
 http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
   
If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you
  should look at GT.M MUMPS
for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with
  Cache, but this group is
mainly about a completely open-source stack of
  VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in
that respect, at least, this group can be
  immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard
  (EDS) wrote:
   
I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
   
Learn M and FM v21 for free
Download this free version of M that has been
  pre-configured to run File
Manager v21.
   
Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with
  MSM Workstation, so it
   is
limited to
   
a single user. Check out the readme.txt for
  details.
I chose the download and the readme says:
The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager
  program from the data stored
   in
the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current
  edition, is that the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m)
  must be stored in the
following path.
   
C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and
  Fileman's great but I wanted
   to
get to the  of things...
Thanks ~ Ric
   
-Original Message-
From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of James
Gray
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
Are you using Cache or GT.M?
   
Jim Gray
   
- Original Message -
From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
I went to the hardhats page and downloaded
  Fileman to my PC but I am
trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a
  MUMPS prompt?
   
Thanks,
   
Ric
   
   --
   Nancy Anthracite
   
   
  
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] UPDATE^DIE

2005-06-21 Thread whitten
 I'd start by looking at the option XUSERNEW and thinking about how to
 make it non-interactive. Trying to add a whole record in one fell swoop
 might be possible for file 200. File 2, well, I think trying to add
 everything in one UPDATE^DIE call would be a disaster.

From having tried to do the code, I know that you can't create an entry in
file #2 (PATIENT File, ^DPT( global) using a single UPDATE^DIE call.

As I recall this requires at least three or four calls at least. I was only
trying to put in selected information, which included employment status,
employer name, and employment telephone number.  These three fields must be
added in seperate UPDATE^DIE calls, as I remember, since there is a causal
dependency that one must be in the database (checked by the input transform
of the next one) prior to the next field successfully being stored.
The multiple calls are required, if I recall correctly, because UPDATE^DIE
processes/stores in field number order, and the dependency chain is not in
field number order.

In my opinion, this dependency should NOT be encoded in the Input
Transforms of fields. This should be in integrity constraints, that are
independent of the actual order of data storage.  As we are tying VistA
systems to more sophisticated ontologies and rule based systems, these kinds
of issues will slow our work.

David Whitten
713-870-3834


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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread K.S. Bhaskar

Mark --

Comments below.

-- Bhaskar

Mark Street wrote:

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 06:44, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
  4. Network services can now be written in GT.M and deployed under
  inetd/xinetd.
 
  [KSB] This will allow the new direct connect CPRS GUI to be used more
  easily.  Effectively, it means that VistA can be packaged  deployed
  like other network services under inetd/xinetd, which is a standard way
  of deploying network services on UNIX/Linux.

StandAlone vs xinetd/inetd superserver.  Can it still be run stand alone?


[KSB] Nothing that existed previously in GT.M has been taken away, so if 
it worked for you before, it will continue to work for you now.  With 
each new GT.M release, the GT.M team tries awfully hard to not break any 
application that used to work (with the exception of an application that 
somehow relies on the presence of a bug).



In a busy institution what would the benefits of using a superserver rather
than standalone process?  Ease of configuration?  System Resources? 
Connection control?


Usually less often used services are run under xinetd/inetd to save system
resources and fine tune security and connection control.


[KSB] You are correct.  However, I do think that on Linux vs. operating 
systems like Windows, OpenVMS, z/OS (used to be called OS/390) or even 
some other flavors of UNIX, process invocation is cheap, and this tends 
to swing the pendulum towards deployment under inetd/xinetd and the 
benefits of being able to fine tune things that it allows.


In the case of GT.M, since there is no daemon to startup or shut down 
(the first process to open a database file sets up the shared control 
structures; the last one out turns off the lights), one of the benefits 
of deploying a service under inet/xinetd is that when there is no 
activity, everything is just shut down (i.e., no files open, no 
processes active).  So, it's just a little cleaner.


In the case of VistA on GT.M specifically, the new ability to deploy a 
service under inetd/xinetd allows the new direct connect CPRS GUI to be 
served by a GT.M process that is started up when the connection request 
comes in, rather than, for example, a pre-existing process from a pool 
of processes.  This is especially appropriate for deployment under 
inetd/xinetd because it is a relatively long-lived connection.



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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread Tomlinson, Steven B
That all sounds good, my concern, just for the sake of discussion, is that
the routines and business logic may be so tightly integrated across
packages/namespaces that the advantages of physically partitioning the data
may not be realized sufficiently to justify the added system administration
overhead of managing multiple databases.


Steven B. Tomlinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
www.PacificHui.org




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K.S.
 Bhaskar
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:18 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
 
 
 Steve --
 
 The only reason to segregate globals is for operational 
 reasons such as 
 those I outlined, e.g., a throw-away-on-system-crash database 
 file for 
 scratch globals, a read-only database file for globals that are not 
 modified in normal operation, such as globals that define the data 
 dictionary, etc.
 
 The benefit is potentially simpler operations and/or reduced 
 IO on the 
 system, e.g., you won't need a daily backup for either 
 scratch globals 
 or data dictionary globals.
 
 You can use different database files for partitioning globals for 
 sharing purposes - for example, in the GT.M Acculturation CD at 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm there is an example for 
 setting up an ASP for the Azkaban Infirmary and St. Mungo's Hospital, 
 where both share a drug file but are otherwise separate.
 
 You can also partition for purposes of restricting access - e.g., if 
 there is a global that stores information about supplies in 
 inventory, 
 not everyone would need access to it.  By segregating patient records 
 globals from supplies globals, people in the purchasing 
 department would 
 be unable to acces patient records.
 
 These are the benefits of segregating globals.  As you say, 
 the benefits 
 of not segregating are a small number of database and journal files.
 
 If there isn't a natural partitioning for the OpenVistA VivA and 
 OpenVistA SemiVivA packages, I'll leave things as they are, in one 
 database file.
 
 -- Bhaskar
 
 Tomlinson, Steven B wrote:
  Just curious, what, if any, advantages are there to doing 
 that? I like
  having just one file to deal with.
  
  Steven B. Tomlinson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
  www.PacificHui.org
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Behalf Of K.S.
Bhaskar
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:17 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
   
   
As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA 
 SemiVivA FOIA Gold
(and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA
live CD), it
occurs to me that I could easily organize the global 
 variables into
multiple database files where it makes sense for them to 
 be separate.
   
For example, if there are global variables which are 
 transient (e.g.,
perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, 
 one would just
delete the old database file and create a new one, they could
be put in
a scratch region.
   
If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on 
 a Saturday
night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in
triplicate by
someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood,
then we could
put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.
   
And so on.
   
If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables,
I'll keep them
all in one file as I have done to date.
   
The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one
to a line
to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance
for your
assistance.
   
-- Bhaskar
   
--
ABS
ACK
AFJ
ALPB
ANRV
APSPQA
AUPNPAT
AUPNPROB
AUPNVCPT
AUPNVHF
AUPNVIMM
AUPNVPED
AUPNVPOV
AUPNVPRV
AUPNVSIT
AUPNVSK
AUPNVTRT
AUPNVXAM
AUTNPOV
AUTTEDT
AUTTEXAM
AUTTHF
AUTTIMM
AUTTLOC
AUTTSK
AUTTTRT
AWC
BPSCOMB
BPSC
BPSECX
BPSEI
BPSF
BPSR
BPSTL
BPST
BPS
DDA
DD
DENT
DGAM
DGBT
DGCN
DGCPT
DGCR
DGENA
DGEN
DGICD9
DGIN
DGMS
DGMT
DGM
DGNT
DGPF
DGPM
DGPR
DGPT
DGP
DGQE
DGRO
DGRU
DGSL
DGS
DGTF
DGWAIT
DG
DIAR
DIA
DIBT
DIC
DIE
DIPT
DIST
DISV
DI
DIZ
DMSQ
DOPT
DPT
DVB
EAS
ECC
ECD
ECH
ECJ
ECK
ECL
ECP
ECR
ECT
ECX
EC
EDR
EEO
ENCSN
ENGS
ENG
ESP
FB583
FB7078
FBAAA
FBAACNH
FBAAC
FBAAI

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Fair enough, Steve.  I thought that with the use of namespaces, VistA 
was well partitioned, but I probably don't understand its interwoven 
intricacies.  I know GT.M, but not VistA.


-- Bhaskar

Tomlinson, Steven B wrote:

That all sounds good, my concern, just for the sake of discussion, is that
the routines and business logic may be so tightly integrated across
packages/namespaces that the advantages of physically partitioning the data
may not be realized sufficiently to justify the added system administration
overhead of managing multiple databases.


Steven B. Tomlinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
www.PacificHui.org



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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
I think you are right Yellow dog and Darwin only live on PowerPc. The
closest you could probably get in a intel flavor would be FreeBSD or
OpenBSD.

Thanks

Marc Aylesworth

C3I Associates 

AFRL/IFSE

Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team

525 Brooks Rd

Rome, NY 13441-4505

Tel:315.330.2422

Fax:315.330.7009

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
Woodhouse
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:19 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

Yes...I know that. Of course, it still runs on the PowerPC. I don't
know if there's a publicly available Darwin port for Intel (yet).

--- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OS X is a BSD variant and GTM should run in Linux compatible mode.
 
 Thanks
 
 Marc Aylesworth
 
 C3I Associates 
 
 AFRL/IFSE
 
 Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
 
 525 Brooks Rd
 
 Rome, NY 13441-4505
 
 Tel:315.330.2422
 
 Fax:315.330.7009
 
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Greg
 Woodhouse
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:11 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
 I'll be ready when GT.M runs on OS X. (Yes, and I know Apple has
 announce a move to Intel.)
 
 This may sound like a crazy idea, but wouldn't we benefit from having
 people proficient in Cache, in GT.M, in Linux, in OS X, FreeBSD,
 Windows, and perhaps other platforms?
 
 Making applications available on only one platform strikes me as a
 case
 of shoot self in foot.
 
 As a group, I wish we could stay out of My favorite OS is better
 than
 your favorite OS wars and stick to medical records (or who knows?
 maybe even other uses of computers in medicine).
 
 
 --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I should change
 to
  Linux
  while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it yet. .../t
   
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:hardhats-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
 Anthracite
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
   Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when VistA-Office
  comes out,
   we
   will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing newbies like never
  before.
   Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
   
   So, Thurman, you are going to be an important resource because
  there are a
   bunch on this list that won't be able to help much with those
 Cache
   questions.
   
   Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this list now, it
 will
  only
   get
   worse.  I think it is going to be like being a movie star.  You
  think it
   is
   neat to be discovered until you are, and then you want some
  privacy!
   
   
   On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
but this group is mainly about a completely open-source stack
 of
VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group
 can
  be
immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
It is starting to look like that. Don't think it was that when
 I
subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA, regardless of the
  flavor.
   Now
I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my way./t
   
   
   
   
   
   
  _
   
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  Of
chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
   
   
Richard,
If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows. If
 you're
   sticking
with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web
 site
  and
download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for
  Windows.
http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
   
If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at
  GT.M MUMPS
for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with Cache, but this
  group is
mainly about a completely open-source stack of
 VistA/MUMPS/Linux,
  and in
that respect, at least, this group can be immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:
   
I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
   
Learn M and FM v21 for free
Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to
  run File
Manager v21.
   
Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM
 Workstation,
  so it
   is
limited to
   
a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
I chose the download and the readme says:
The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the
 data
  stored
   in
the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current edition, is
 that
  the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) 

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread Mark Street
I understand.  Can you explain some details/mechanism on the new 'direct 
connect' CPRS GUI.

Am I assuming that the 'new way' is to make a direct connection to GT.M/VistA 
using a superserver connection instead of having RPCBroker listener.  Did 
this grow out of limitations of RPCBroker?

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:42, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
 In the case of GT.M, since there is no daemon to startup or shut down
 (the first process to open a database file sets up the shared control
 structures; the last one out turns off the lights), one of the benefits
 of deploying a service under inet/xinetd is that when there is no
 activity, everything is just shut down (i.e., no files open, no
 processes active).  So, it's just a little cleaner.

 In the case of VistA on GT.M specifically, the new ability to deploy a
 service under inetd/xinetd allows the new direct connect CPRS GUI to be
 served by a GT.M process that is started up when the connection request
 comes in, rather than, for example, a pre-existing process from a pool
 of processes.  This is especially appropriate for deployment under
 inetd/xinetd because it is a relatively long-lived connection.
-- 
Mark Street, RHCE
http://www.oswizards.com
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Unfortunately, I don't know the details on how to connect to the new 
CPRS GUI, but I know that it works with a GT.M server deployed under 
inetd/xinetd, but hopefully someone on this list will be able to tell 
you how.


I also don't know why the protocol was changed/enhanced.

-- Bhaskar

Mark Street wrote:

I understand.  Can you explain some details/mechanism on the new 'direct
connect' CPRS GUI.

Am I assuming that the 'new way' is to make a direct connection to 
GT.M/VistA

using a superserver connection instead of having RPCBroker listener.  Did
this grow out of limitations of RPCBroker?



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RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Actually, I did install Linux on a couple of computers and GT.M trial on
one. It subsequently crashed and I just didn't have the time work a parallel
approach. Maybe I'm not ready .../t



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:24 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
 
 I'm just ready for it yet. .../t
 
 Freudian slip?  :-) Kevin
 
 Get an older computer and run one of the newer Linux
 distros.  Its not as painful as one might think.  I
 was intimitated initially by Linux too.  But its not
 so bad.
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 
 --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I must say I have had a lot of help here. Perhaps I
  should change to Linux
  while all this focus is hot. I'm just ready for it
  yet. .../t
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:hardhats-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Nancy Anthracite
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:52 PM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
  
   Guess what guys and gals, be prepared because when
  VistA-Office comes out,
   we
   will be discovered anew, and we will be seeing
  newbies like never before.
   Most of them will be running on Cache and Windows.
  
   So, Thurman, you are going to be an important
  resource because there are a
   bunch on this list that won't be able to help much
  with those Cache
   questions.
  
   Condolences to Lloyd.  If he has a hard with this
  list now, it will only
   get
   worse.  I think it is going to be like being a
  movie star.  You think it
   is
   neat to be discovered until you are, and then you
  want some privacy!
  
  
   On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo
  wrote:
but this group is mainly about a completely
  open-source stack of
VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at
  least, this group can be
immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
It is starting to look like that. Don't think it
  was that when I
subscribed. Thought Hardhats was about VistA,
  regardless of the flavor.
   Now
I see a lot of Linux. Guess I must have lost my
  way./t
   
   
   
   
   
   
  _
   
From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of
chuck5566 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:02 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
   
   
Richard,
If you're running MSM Workstation, that means
  Windows. If you're
   sticking
with Windows, then I suggest you go to the
  InterSystems web site and
download their free, single-user version of
  Cache (MUMPS) for Windows.
   
 
 http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html
   
If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you
  should look at GT.M MUMPS
for Linux on SourceForge. Nothing wrong with
  Cache, but this group is
mainly about a completely open-source stack of
  VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in
that respect, at least, this group can be
  immeasurably helpful.
   
   
   
On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard
  (EDS) wrote:
   
I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:
   
Learn M and FM v21 for free
Download this free version of M that has been
  pre-configured to run File
Manager v21.
   
Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with
  MSM Workstation, so it
   is
limited to
   
a single user. Check out the readme.txt for
  details.
I chose the download and the readme says:
The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager
  program from the data stored
   in
the Fileman.m file. A limitation of this current
  edition, is that the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m)
  must be stored in the
following path.
   
C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and
  Fileman's great but I wanted
   to
get to the  of things...
Thanks ~ Ric
   
-Original Message-
From:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of James
Gray
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
Are you using Cache or GT.M?
   
Jim Gray
   
- Original Message -
From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt
   
I went to the hardhats page and downloaded
  Fileman to my PC but I am
trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a
  MUMPS prompt?
   
Thanks,
   
Ric
  
   --
   Nancy Anthracite
  
  
  
 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
Under the old CPRS the client connected to the server and then the server
opened a connection back to the client this is an older style of making
connections between server and client for two way communications. The new
CPRS makes one connection from the client and uses this to communicate both
ways. ( At least that is what I got from the previous posts about it)

Thanks

Marc Aylesworth

C3I Associates 

AFRL/IFSE

Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team

525 Brooks Rd

Rome, NY 13441-4505

Tel:315.330.2422

Fax:315.330.7009

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K.S.
Bhaskar
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:18 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

Unfortunately, I don't know the details on how to connect to the new 
CPRS GUI, but I know that it works with a GT.M server deployed under 
inetd/xinetd, but hopefully someone on this list will be able to tell 
you how.

I also don't know why the protocol was changed/enhanced.

-- Bhaskar

Mark Street wrote:
 I understand.  Can you explain some details/mechanism on the new 'direct
 connect' CPRS GUI.
 
 Am I assuming that the 'new way' is to make a direct connection to 
 GT.M/VistA
 using a superserver connection instead of having RPCBroker listener.  Did
 this grow out of limitations of RPCBroker?


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Re: [Hardhats-members] HUI OPENVISTA VERSION 3.0 RELEASED TO WORLDVISTA

2005-06-21 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Well, you made the news

http://govhealthit.com/article89340-06-21-05-Web

--- Zukaitis, Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 June 20, 2005
  
  
  Hui OPENVISTA VERSION 3.0 RELEASED TO WORLDVISTA 
  
 The Pacific Telehealth  Technology Hui (Hui) announced the
 completion of
 Hui OpenVista 3.0, the first major upgrade of the software since June
 2003.
 In a technology transfer initiative, the Hui released the software
 upgrade
 to WorldVistA for use as a baseline in developing OpenVista 4.0. 
  
 The Hui development team made several key enhancements to Hui
 OpenVista -
 most notably a more streamlined configuration process. Release 3.0
 provides
 a preconfigured baseline system that simplifies the steps needed to
 convert
 the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) version of VistA to OpenVista.
 This
 enables users to quickly download the baseline as a starting point
 for
 configuring the system to their specific requirements. 
  
 OpenVista, a non-proprietary, open-source healthcare information
 system, is
 based on the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) enterprise-wide
 VistA
 system. WorldVistA, a not-for-profit organization of VistA
 developers, plans
 to conduct validation testing of Hui OpenVista 3.0 before
 distributing
 OpenVista 4.0 to test sites next month. The Hui initially funded and
 managed
 the development and release of OpenVista in collaboration with
 WorldVistA to
 enable non-VA hospitals and healthcare providers throughout the
 Pacific to
 implement a healthcare information system free of licensing costs.
  
 Release 3.0 provides a preconfigured baseline system using the March
 2004
 VistA FOIA with selected VA patches (through January 2005) applied to
 the
 system's core modules, including the Kernel, Scheduling, Outpatient
 Pharmacy, Order Entry, Laboratory, Text Integration Utility and RPC
 broker.
 In addition, the Outpatient Pharmacy database has been populated with
 a
 minimum subset of current drugs and matched to the Orderable Item and
 Order
 Quick View files. 
  
 At the April VistA Community Meeting in Boston, Massachusetts,
 WorldVistA
 stepped forward to serve as gatekeeper and configuration manager for
 all
 future releases of OpenVista software. In May, the Hui transferred
 the Hui
 OpenVista technology to WorldVistA. As a result, Hui OpenVista 3.0
 will not
 be available as a separate release from the Hui web site. 
  
 This represents a significant step forward in the transfer of VistA
 technology as an enterprise solution for hospitals and clinics
 outside of
 the VA, said Pacific Telehealth  Technology Hui Director Stanley M.
 Saiki,
 Jr., M.D. Since its release in 2003, interest in Hui OpenVista has
 grown
 substantially spurring the economic development needed to support the
 increased demand for affordable healthcare information systems.
  
 Since the initial release of Hui OpenVistaTM in June 2003 nearly 2000
 downloads of the software have been licensed and executed from the
 Hui web
 site ( www.pacifichui.org http://www.pacifichui.org/ ) by
 healthcare,
 software development and medical research organizations. 
  
 The Pacific Telehealth  Technology Hui was formed in 1999 under
 joint
 agreement with the DoD Pacific Regional Medical Command at Tripler
 Army
 Medical Center and the Veterans Affairs Pacific Islands Health Care
 System
 in Honolulu, and the encouragement and support of U.S. Senator Daniel
 K.
 Inouye. The DoD/VA joint venture serves as a healthcare research and
 application development center for developing telemedicine and
 technology
 programs that support the healthcare needs of federal beneficiaries
 in the
 Pacific region. The Hui is headquartered at Tripler Army Medical
 Center in
 the VA Spark Matsunaga Medical Center in Honolulu.
  
 For more information contact:
 Nancy Downes
 Marketing Specialist
 (808) 531-2743
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 www.pacifichui.org
  
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] HUI OPENVISTA VERSION 3.0 RELEASED TO WORLDVISTA

2005-06-21 Thread Mark Street
Well, I looked on the worldvista site at Sourceforge for this release.  Is it 
available yet?  What will it be named when it does surface?

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 15:42, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
 Well, you made the news
 http://govhealthit.com/article89340-06-21-05-Web

 --- Zukaitis, Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
  June 20, 2005
 
   Hui OPENVISTA VERSION 3.0 RELEASED TO WORLDVISTA
 
  The Pacific Telehealth  Technology Hui (Hui) announced the
  completion of
  Hui OpenVista 3.0, the first major upgrade of the software since June
  2003.
  In a technology transfer initiative, the Hui released the software
  upgrade
  to WorldVistA for use as a baseline in developing OpenVista 4.0.
-- 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

2005-06-21 Thread chuck5566

Geez, just try and complement some people. . .


On Jun 21, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:

Actually, this is an anything you want to run VistA group as this is 
the

Hardhats mailing list. It happens to have a big, noisy contingency of
WorldVistA/GT.M users, but M is M whether or not Intersytems mentions 
it on

their web page and you can practice M in Cache just fine.

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 04:02 pm, chuck5566 wrote:

Richard,
If you're running MSM Workstation, that means Windows.  If you're
sticking with Windows, then I suggest you go to the InterSystems web
site and download their free, single-user version of Cache (MUMPS) for
Windows.
http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html

If you ever think it's time to move Linux, you should look at GT.M
MUMPS for Linux on SourceForge.  Nothing wrong with Cache, but this
group is mainly about a completely open-source stack of
VistA/MUMPS/Linux, and in that respect, at least, this group can be
immeasurably helpful.

On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Carroll, Richard (EDS) wrote:

I'm not sure, the hardhats web site said:

Learn M and FM v21 for free
Download this free version of M that has been pre-configured to run
File Manager v21.

Dave Whitten, a fellow Hardhat, created it with MSM Workstation, so 
it

is limited to

a single user. Check out the readme.txt for details.
I chose the download and the readme says:
The FM.EXE file runs the VA's File Manager program from the data
stored in
the Fileman.m file.  A limitation of this current edition, is that 
the
three files (msmws002.dll, fm.exe and Fileman.m) must be stored in 
the

following path.

  C:\Program Files\Micronetics\MSMWS\Program\
It comes up right at the Fileman prompt and Fileman's great but I
wanted to get to the  of things...
Thanks ~ Ric

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James Gray
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:21 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
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Are you using Cache or GT.M?
 
Jim Gray


- Original Message -
From: Carroll, Richard (EDS)
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] The MUMPS Prompt

I went to the hardhats page and downloaded Fileman to my PC but I am
trapped inside Fileman!  How can I get to a MUMPS prompt?
 
Thanks,
 
Ric


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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread whitten
The old way involved having a listener running on a known port,
which would job off a new MUMPS process for each CPRS client.

Since the new MUMPS process created a new TCP/IP outgoing socket from
the server, the listener only had a minimal load per CPRS client, and
thus didn't have to hand off the socket (which is not in the MUMPS standard)
nor did it have to start a new listener on the known port, (with the
potential of missing a CPRS client connection) when the new listener was
taking over.

Unfortunately, the old method didn't work when connecting a CPRS client
within a NAT or router to a server that also could be within a NAT or
router. Since the CPRS client machine had a non-routeable
address in that case, it was the equivalent of trying to contact someone by
phone where you had their phone extension, but not the main trunk number.

The new CPRS process follows the idea that if you can get a socket between
the CPRS client and the server, you should simply use that socket. The
expectation is that using inetd/xinetd to handle known port management would
yield no dropped connections. 

David 
713-870-3834

 
 Unfortunately, I don't know the details on how to connect to the new 
 CPRS GUI, but I know that it works with a GT.M server deployed under 
 inetd/xinetd, but hopefully someone on this list will be able to tell 
 you how.
 
 I also don't know why the protocol was changed/enhanced.
 
 -- Bhaskar
 
 Mark Street wrote:
  I understand.  Can you explain some details/mechanism on the new 'direct
  connect' CPRS GUI.
  
  Am I assuming that the 'new way' is to make a direct connection to 
  GT.M/VistA
  using a superserver connection instead of having RPCBroker listener.  Did
  this grow out of limitations of RPCBroker?
 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000 available

2005-06-21 Thread Mark Street
Beautiful Dave, thanks for the clarification.  I can remember running into 
that problem some months back.  Socket's are good.

Am I correct in assuming that one would have two choices here since there is 
no daemon process to run.

1.  Run/spawn a gtm/mumps process through xinetd/inetd (Is this what is 
referred to as a new style listener in listener configuration?)
2.  Run a RPClistener (old style)

On Tuesday 21 June 2005 16:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The old way involved having a listener running on a known port,
 which would job off a new MUMPS process for each CPRS client.

 Since the new MUMPS process created a new TCP/IP outgoing socket from
 the server, the listener only had a minimal load per CPRS client, and
 thus didn't have to hand off the socket (which is not in the MUMPS
 standard) nor did it have to start a new listener on the known port, (with
 the potential of missing a CPRS client connection) when the new listener
 was taking over.

 Unfortunately, the old method didn't work when connecting a CPRS client
 within a NAT or router to a server that also could be within a NAT or
 router. Since the CPRS client machine had a non-routeable
 address in that case, it was the equivalent of trying to contact someone by
 phone where you had their phone extension, but not the main trunk number.

 The new CPRS process follows the idea that if you can get a socket between
 the CPRS client and the server, you should simply use that socket. The
 expectation is that using inetd/xinetd to handle known port management
 would yield no dropped connections.



  Unfortunately, I don't know the details on how to connect to the new
  CPRS GUI, but I know that it works with a GT.M server deployed under
  inetd/xinetd, but hopefully someone on this list will be able to tell
  you how.
 
  I also don't know why the protocol was changed/enhanced.
 
  -- Bhaskar
 
  Mark Street wrote:
   I understand.  Can you explain some details/mechanism on the new
   'direct connect' CPRS GUI.
  
   Am I assuming that the 'new way' is to make a direct connection to
   GT.M/VistA
   using a superserver connection instead of having RPCBroker listener. 
   Did this grow out of limitations of RPCBroker?
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Likewise, there are a number of packages that had wise developers who
separated relatively static globals from relatively dynamic globals.  We
really didn't get into that habit until the mid 80's.  The two globals that
grow the fastest and largest are the Orders and the Notes.

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Having things spread across multiple partitions (or namespaces or volume
sets or whatever) does increase the management complexity of the system.
However routines and business logic will see a VistA database set as one
virtual database.  Thus the tight integration is not an issue.  Now if you
are talking about system management issues that is another concern.  But
those system management concerns overtly do not have any effect upon
executing business logic unless you poorly design that database set.

Bhaskar, I assume you have large bank customers.  I also assume they have
multiple database partitions because putting all data in a single database
can lead to performance issues.  Is this correct?  If so, the reasoning
behind having multiple partitions for the large banks is similar to the
logic for having multiple partitions for a sizable VistA system.  Of course
whether to partition or not would be platform dependent.  How I configure
VistA to run on some Dell servers would be different than running VistA on a
mainframe.

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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning


 Fair enough, Steve.  I thought that with the use of namespaces, VistA
 was well partitioned, but I probably don't understand its interwoven
 intricacies.  I know GT.M, but not VistA.

 -- Bhaskar

 Tomlinson, Steven B wrote:
  That all sounds good, my concern, just for the sake of discussion, is
that
  the routines and business logic may be so tightly integrated across
  packages/namespaces that the advantages of physically partitioning the
data
  may not be realized sufficiently to justify the added system
administration
  overhead of managing multiple databases.
 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
smcphelan wrote:
 ...  If you look at the
 larger VA sites they will have the globals partitioned over 15 - 30 virtual
 volume sets spreading the IO out over multiple spindles and disk
 controllers.  

I would be very interested in a concrete description of how this is
worked out at an actual large VA site. Seems to me that would be a good
place to start trimming back to a simpler installation.

regards,
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Re: [Hardhats-members] What is SERVICE/SECTION and TREATING SPECIALTY

2005-06-21 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
Thurman Pedigo wrote:
 Anyone ever wonder what VistA (AND EHR) could have been if all the Medical
 Schools had gotten behind it instead of playing KING OF THE HILL?
 
Oh, Thurman, you old trouble-maker.

How about this one:

Has anyone noticed the coolness, even prejudice toward VistA within the
family practice community?


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Wireless in the enterprise?

2005-06-21 Thread chuck5566
FWIW:  My GP has been using a wireless PDA for over a year now.  He 
uses it to order my meds/refills and Lord knows what else.  He's very 
happy using it.  His office still uses paper records - he tells me 
they're going electronic soon.




On Jun 20, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Greg Woodhouse wrote:


This article from Queue may be of interest

http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=301

I cannot help but wonder what benefits wireless PDAs have to offer in
terms of the usability (and acceptance) of an EHR system.

The most profound technologies are those that disappear.
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread Usha
Then is taking backup of a particular module's globals also possible? If so,
how?

Regards
Usha
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning


 Steve --

 The only reason to segregate globals is for operational reasons such as
 those I outlined, e.g., a throw-away-on-system-crash database file for
 scratch globals, a read-only database file for globals that are not
 modified in normal operation, such as globals that define the data
 dictionary, etc.

 The benefit is potentially simpler operations and/or reduced IO on the
 system, e.g., you won't need a daily backup for either scratch globals
 or data dictionary globals.

 You can use different database files for partitioning globals for
 sharing purposes - for example, in the GT.M Acculturation CD at
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm there is an example for
 setting up an ASP for the Azkaban Infirmary and St. Mungo's Hospital,
 where both share a drug file but are otherwise separate.

 You can also partition for purposes of restricting access - e.g., if
 there is a global that stores information about supplies in inventory,
 not everyone would need access to it.  By segregating patient records
 globals from supplies globals, people in the purchasing department would
 be unable to acces patient records.

 These are the benefits of segregating globals.  As you say, the benefits
 of not segregating are a small number of database and journal files.

 If there isn't a natural partitioning for the OpenVistA VivA and
 OpenVistA SemiVivA packages, I'll leave things as they are, in one
 database file.

 -- Bhaskar

 Tomlinson, Steven B wrote:
  Just curious, what, if any, advantages are there to doing that? I like
  having just one file to deal with.
 
  Steven B. Tomlinson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
  www.PacificHui.org
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
K.S.
Bhaskar
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:17 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning
   
   
As I get ready to make the next round of OpenVistA SemiVivA FOIA Gold
(and maybe VivA too - please let me know if you want a VivA
live CD), it
occurs to me that I could easily organize the global variables into
multiple database files where it makes sense for them to be separate.
   
For example, if there are global variables which are transient (e.g.,
perhaps Taskman process ids) where on system startup, one would just
delete the old database file and create a new one, they could
be put in
a scratch region.
   
If there are globals that shouldn't be changed except on a Saturday
night after a full moon and authorized by a form signed in
triplicate by
someone close to a deity and a DBA's thumbprint in blood,
then we could
put those globals in a file with read-only permissions.
   
And so on.
   
If there is no clearcut partitioning of global variables,
I'll keep them
all in one file as I have done to date.
   
The global variables in the latest FOIA VistA are below, one
to a line
to facilitiate annotation and comments.  Thank you in advance
for your
assistance.
   
-- Bhaskar
   
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ABS
ACK
AFJ
ALPB
ANRV
APSPQA
AUPNPAT
AUPNPROB
AUPNVCPT
AUPNVHF
AUPNVIMM
AUPNVPED
AUPNVPOV
AUPNVPRV
AUPNVSIT
AUPNVSK
AUPNVTRT
AUPNVXAM
AUTNPOV
AUTTEDT
AUTTEXAM
AUTTHF
AUTTIMM
AUTTLOC
AUTTSK
AUTTTRT
AWC
BPSCOMB
BPSC
BPSECX
BPSEI
BPSF
BPSR
BPSTL
BPST
BPS
DDA
DD
DENT
DGAM
DGBT
DGCN
DGCPT
DGCR
DGENA
DGEN
DGICD9
DGIN
DGMS
DGMT
DGM
DGNT
DGPF
DGPM
DGPR
DGPT
DGP
DGQE
DGRO
DGRU
DGSL
DGS
DGTF
DGWAIT
DG
DIAR
DIA
DIBT
DIC
DIE
DIPT
DIST
DISV
DI
DIZ
DMSQ
DOPT
DPT
DVB
EAS
ECC
ECD
ECH
ECJ
ECK
ECL
ECP
ECR
ECT
ECX
EC
EDR
EEO
ENCSN
ENGS
ENG
ESP
FB583
FB7078
FBAAA
FBAACNH
FBAAC
FBAAI
FBAAV
FBAA
FBHL
FB
FHEN
FHING
FHNU
FHPT
FHUM
FH
FSCD
FSC
GECS
GMPL
GMRD
GMR
GMT
HBHC
HLCS
HLEV
HLMA
HLS
HL
HOLIDAY
IBAM
IBAT
IBA
IBCNR
IBCN
IBD
IBE
IBM
IBQ
IBT
IB
ICD0
ICD9
ICDYZ
ICD
ICM
ICPT
IMR
IVM
KMPD
KMPR
KMPS
LAB
LAC
LAHM
LAM
LAR
LBRY

RE: [Hardhats-members] Wireless in the enterprise?

2005-06-21 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Wireless PDA's have some benefit in a (small) private practice, though the
wireless part leaves some question. Most who use it in the context of
medication ordering of refills get some perks, to get the drug ordering
business, along with free use of the PDA. PDA medical records have serious
limitations - the worst being limited to single user. I suppose some of the
wireless PDA's like Blackberry (did I get that right) will have some
advantage in remote wireless connection such as a cocktail party..;-) 

That said - I find the PDA extraordinarily helpful and used one since before
the first HP came out (late 80's). Aside from maintaining non-patient
scheduling, if provide a quick reference to PDR, various medical
calculations and a note taker. In the early days I used a diagnostic program
called RemindIV - similar to DXPlain and QMR. That whole process has become
supplanted by the ubiquitous internet.

Bottom line, I use it just like anyone of any profession. All my PDA's have
wireless capability since it became available. I never turned one on. I do
sync with my desktop.

thurman  
P.S.: They are very light - sure wish I could use them as I walk between
exam rooms without having to log back in. NOT ENOUGH VISUAL.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chuck5566
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:49 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Wireless in the enterprise?
 
 FWIW:  My GP has been using a wireless PDA for over a year now.  He
 uses it to order my meds/refills and Lord knows what else.  He's very
 happy using it.  His office still uses paper records - he tells me
 they're going electronic soon.
 
 
 
 On Jun 20, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
 
  This article from Queue may be of interest
 
  http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=301
 
  I cannot help but wonder what benefits wireless PDAs have to offer in
  terms of the usability (and acceptance) of an EHR system.
 
  The most profound technologies are those that disappear.
  --Mark Weiser
 
  
  Greg Woodhouse
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA global variable partitioning

2005-06-21 Thread Gregory Woodhouse

There's always KIDS.

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 of everyday thinking.  -- Albert Einstein


On Jun 21, 2005, at 8:49 PM, Usha wrote:

Then is taking backup of a particular module's globals also  
possible? If so,

how?

Regards
Usha





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Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting

2005-06-21 Thread Usha

Kevin,
Thanks for the debugger. It's really nice.

I got to know where the problem is. This is my %ZISH routine's OPEN portion.
Here I had included the command S X2=/home/vista/OpenVistA to restrain
the system from creating an HFS file in the / directory by default. As
soon as I rmoved this command everything is woking fine.

OPEN(X1,X2,X3,X4,X5,X6) ;SR. Open file
9;D
OPEN^%ZISH([handlename],[directory],filename,[accessmode],[recsize
 ])
10   ;X1=handle name
11   ;X2=directory, X3=filename, X4=access mode
12   ;X5=new file max record size, X6=Subtype
13   ;
14   N %,%1,%2,%IO,%I2,%P,%T,X,Y,$ETRAP
15   S $ETRAP=D OPNERR^%ZISH
16   S X2=/home/vista/OpenVistA
17   S U=^,X2=$$DEFDIR($G(X2)),X4=$$UP^XLFSTR(X4)
18   S
Y=$S(X4[A:append,X4[R:readonly,X4[W:newversion,1:reado
 nly)


But is there no way of defining the default directory to create the HFS
files in?

Regards
Usha


- Original Message -
From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting


You can download the three files from the top of this
page.  Let me know if you need help.

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Debugging_with_GT.M

Kevin


--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to have it.
 Thanks
 Usha
 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE
 while exporting


 I have a very crude debugger that allows stepping
 through code.  I can get you the code if you want.

 Kevin


 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well how to do that?
 
  Usha
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Greg Woodhouse
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:35 PM
  Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
 DEVICE
  while exporting
 
 
  At this point, I'd be inclined to try using a
  debugger to be sure that
  the pathname of the file you are trying to open is
  what you think it
  is. One possibility is that the path is being
  constructed in such a way
  that there is nothing to open. If there were a
  trappable error, you
  could also check the symbol table using ^XTER.
 
  --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Also try to write t o/tmp this usually has 777
  permissions where
   other
   directories may be more restricted
  
   Thanks
  
   Marc Aylesworth
  
   C3I Associates
  
   AFRL/IFSE
  
   Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
  
   525 Brooks Rd
  
   Rome, NY 13441-4505
  
   Tel:315.330.2422
  
   Fax:315.330.7009
  
   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   -Original Message-
   From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of
   K.S.
   Bhaskar
   Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:23 AM
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
  DEVICE while exporting
  
   Usha --
  
   The information you sent, shell commands that I
  used to illustrate
   the
   use of ZSYstem, are probably not very helpful to
  anyone trying to
   debug
   why %ZISH is not accessing files in directories
  other than
   /home/vista/OpenVistA.  You may want to post the
  output of the
   following
   commands:
  
   ZSY id
   ZSY ls -ld /home/vista/OpenVistA
   ZSY ls -ld XXX
  
   where XXX is a directory where %ZISH is unable
 to
  open a file.  You
   can
   also just send the output of the commands
 executed
  at a Linux shell
   rather than the GT.M prompt:
  
   id
   ls -ld /home/vista/OpenVistA
   ls -ld XXX
  
   -- Bhaskar
  
   Usha wrote:
I am able to open any file in
  /home/vista/OpenVistA directory only.
   No
other
file is opening using %ZISH.
   
Following is a screenshot, with the help of
  Bhaskar
   
 GTMZSYstem echo $PWD
/home/vista/OpenVistA
   
GTMZSYstem uname -a
Linux local.cmpio.org 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl #1
 Wed
  Oct 29 15:42:51 EST
   2003
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
   
GTMh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$ echo $PWD
/home/vista
[EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$
   
   
Regards
Usha
- Original Message -
From: Gregory Woodhouse
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
  DEVICE while exporting
   
   
  Can you OPEN the file? Can you open (with
  %ZISH) a file in a
  different directory (say /tmp)?
 
  ===
  Gregory Woodhouse
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Without the requirement of mathematical
  aesthetics a great many
  discoveries would not have been made.
  -- Albert Einstein
 
 
 
  On Jun 16, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Usha wrote:
 
   The difference between the previous and
  

Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exportingMy

2005-06-21 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Does the Device file HFS do that?


NUMBER: 39  NAME: GTM-UNIX-HFS
  $I: /tmp/hfs.dat  ASK DEVICE: YES
  ASK PARAMETERS: YES
  LOCATION OF TERMINAL: Host File Server (GT.M)
  ASK HOST FILE: YESASK HFS I/O OPERATION: YES
  OPEN PARAMETERS: newversion
MNEMONIC: HFS
MNEMONIC: GTM-LINUX-HFS
  SUBTYPE: P-OTHER  TYPE: HOST FILE SERVER


On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:20 am, Usha wrote:
 Kevin,
 Thanks for the debugger. It's really nice.

 I got to know where the problem is. This is my %ZISH routine's OPEN
 portion. Here I had included the command S X2=/home/vista/OpenVistA to
 restrain the system from creating an HFS file in the / directory by
 default. As soon as I rmoved this command everything is woking fine.

 OPEN(X1,X2,X3,X4,X5,X6) ;SR. Open file
 9;D
 OPEN^%ZISH([handlename],[directory],filename,[accessmode],[recsize
  ])
 10   ;X1=handle name
 11   ;X2=directory, X3=filename, X4=access mode
 12   ;X5=new file max record size, X6=Subtype
 13   ;
 14   N %,%1,%2,%IO,%I2,%P,%T,X,Y,$ETRAP
 15   S $ETRAP=D OPNERR^%ZISH
 16   S X2=/home/vista/OpenVistA
 17   S U=^,X2=$$DEFDIR($G(X2)),X4=$$UP^XLFSTR(X4)
 18   S
 Y=$S(X4[A:append,X4[R:readonly,X4[W:newversion,1:reado
  nly)
 

 But is there no way of defining the default directory to create the HFS
 files in?

 Regards
 Usha


 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting


 You can download the three files from the top of this
 page.  Let me know if you need help.

 http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Debugging_with_GT.M

 Kevin

 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would like to have it.
  Thanks
  Usha
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE
  while exporting
 
 
  I have a very crude debugger that allows stepping
  through code.  I can get you the code if you want.
 
  Kevin
 
  --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Well how to do that?
  
   Usha
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Greg Woodhouse
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:35 PM
   Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
 
  DEVICE
 
   while exporting
  
  
   At this point, I'd be inclined to try using a
   debugger to be sure that
   the pathname of the file you are trying to open is
   what you think it
   is. One possibility is that the path is being
   constructed in such a way
   that there is nothing to open. If there were a
   trappable error, you
   could also check the symbol table using ^XTER.
  
   --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also try to write t o/tmp this usually has 777
  
   permissions where
  
other
directories may be more restricted
   
Thanks
   
Marc Aylesworth
   
C3I Associates
   
AFRL/IFSE
   
Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
   
525 Brooks Rd
   
Rome, NY 13441-4505
   
Tel:315.330.2422
   
Fax:315.330.7009
   
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
-Original Message-
From:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

   On Behalf Of
  
K.S.
Bhaskar
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:23 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
  
   DEVICE while exporting
  
Usha --
   
The information you sent, shell commands that I
  
   used to illustrate
  
the
use of ZSYstem, are probably not very helpful to
  
   anyone trying to
  
debug
why %ZISH is not accessing files in directories
  
   other than
  
/home/vista/OpenVistA.  You may want to post the
  
   output of the
  
following
commands:
   
ZSY id
ZSY ls -ld /home/vista/OpenVistA
ZSY ls -ld XXX
   
where XXX is a directory where %ZISH is unable
 
  to
 
   open a file.  You
  
can
also just send the output of the commands
 
  executed
 
   at a Linux shell
  
rather than the GT.M prompt:
   
id
ls -ld /home/vista/OpenVistA
ls -ld XXX
   
-- Bhaskar
   
Usha wrote:
 I am able to open any file in
  
   /home/vista/OpenVistA directory only.
  
No
   
 other
 file is opening using %ZISH.

 Following is a screenshot, with the help of
  
   Bhaskar
  
  GTMZSYstem echo $PWD
 /home/vista/OpenVistA

 GTMZSYstem uname -a
 Linux local.cmpio.org 2.4.22-1.2115.nptl #1
 
  Wed
 
   Oct 29 15:42:51 EST
  
2003
   
 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

 GTMh
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$ echo $PWD
 /home/vista
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] vista]$

   

Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exportingMy

2005-06-21 Thread Usha
This is the DEVICE file's captioned output for HFS.

NUMBER: 39  NAME: GTM-UNIX-HFS
  $I: /home/vista/tmp/hfs.dat   ASK DEVICE: NO
  ASK PARAMETERS: NOVOLUME SET(CPU): ROU
  LOCATION OF TERMINAL: Host File Server (GT.M)
  ASK HOST FILE: YESASK HFS I/O OPERATION: YES
  PAGE LENGTH: 9OPEN PARAMETERS: read/write
MNEMONIC: HFS
MNEMONIC: GTM-LINUX-HFS
  SUBTYPE: P-OTHER  TYPE: HOST FILE SERVER

- Original Message -
From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exportingMy


 Does the Device file HFS do that?


 NUMBER: 39  NAME: GTM-UNIX-HFS
   $I: /tmp/hfs.dat  ASK DEVICE: YES
   ASK PARAMETERS: YES
   LOCATION OF TERMINAL: Host File Server (GT.M)
   ASK HOST FILE: YESASK HFS I/O OPERATION: YES
   OPEN PARAMETERS: newversion
 MNEMONIC: HFS
 MNEMONIC: GTM-LINUX-HFS
   SUBTYPE: P-OTHER  TYPE: HOST FILE SERVER


 On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:20 am, Usha wrote:
  Kevin,
  Thanks for the debugger. It's really nice.
 
  I got to know where the problem is. This is my %ZISH routine's OPEN
  portion. Here I had included the command S X2=/home/vista/OpenVistA
to
  restrain the system from creating an HFS file in the / directory by
  default. As soon as I rmoved this command everything is woking fine.
 
  OPEN(X1,X2,X3,X4,X5,X6) ;SR. Open file
  9;D
  OPEN^%ZISH([handlename],[directory],filename,[accessmode],[recsize
   ])
  10   ;X1=handle name
  11   ;X2=directory, X3=filename, X4=access mode
  12   ;X5=new file max record size, X6=Subtype
  13   ;
  14   N %,%1,%2,%IO,%I2,%P,%T,X,Y,$ETRAP
  15   S $ETRAP=D OPNERR^%ZISH
  16   S X2=/home/vista/OpenVistA
  17   S U=^,X2=$$DEFDIR($G(X2)),X4=$$UP^XLFSTR(X4)
  18   S
  Y=$S(X4[A:append,X4[R:readonly,X4[W:newversion,1:reado
   nly)
  
 
  But is there no way of defining the default directory to create the HFS
  files in?
 
  Regards
  Usha
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE while exporting
 
 
  You can download the three files from the top of this
  page.  Let me know if you need help.
 
 
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Debugging_with_GT.M
 
  Kevin
 
  --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I would like to have it.
   Thanks
   Usha
   - Original Message -
   From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
   Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:02 PM
   Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask DEVICE
   while exporting
  
  
   I have a very crude debugger that allows stepping
   through code.  I can get you the code if you want.
  
   Kevin
  
   --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well how to do that?
   
Usha
   
- Original Message -
From: Greg Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
  
   DEVICE
  
while exporting
   
   
At this point, I'd be inclined to try using a
debugger to be sure that
the pathname of the file you are trying to open is
what you think it
is. One possibility is that the path is being
constructed in such a way
that there is nothing to open. If there were a
trappable error, you
could also check the symbol table using ^XTER.
   
--- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also try to write t o/tmp this usually has 777
   
permissions where
   
 other
 directories may be more restricted

 Thanks

 Marc Aylesworth

 C3I Associates

 AFRL/IFSE

 Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team

 525 Brooks Rd

 Rome, NY 13441-4505

 Tel:315.330.2422

 Fax:315.330.7009

 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From:
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
On Behalf Of
   
 K.S.
 Bhaskar
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:23 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Does not ask
   
DEVICE while exporting
   
 Usha --

 The information you sent, shell commands that I
   
used to illustrate
   
 the
 use of ZSYstem, are probably not very helpful to
   
anyone trying to
   
 debug
 why %ZISH is not accessing files in directories
   
other than
   
 /home/vista/OpenVistA.  You may want to post the
   
output of the
   
 following
 commands: