[H] X38 DD2 mobo's was Re: gigabyte MB's ?

2007-12-19 Thread j maccraw
How about DDR2 X38's like the P5E?


Chris Reeves wrote:
 X38 is exceptionally nice.  The Asus p5e3 wifi is
easily one of the best boards I've ever used.  
 
 We got in the first round of 780is on Friday, 5 EVGA
boards and 2 Asus Striker 2s. 
 
 The striker 2s are pure garbage, using a qx9650 they
still freak out, are unstable and frequently
bluescreen. The eVGAs are nothing special, but they
seem solid: the new layouts resemble the 790fx boards.
 
 
 I do like the pure coal look to the evga though.  
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
 



  

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Re: [H] StarMicro - Bad Guys?

2007-12-19 Thread Al

Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For each order, they only write to you once -- a confirmation...
 
 You have to sign on and use the features on the site to see your order and/or 
 tracking...
 You can sign in to your new account at 
 http://www.starmicro.net/CustSignIn.aspx.
 Hit the My Account button, after that the rest is very clear...

Thanks Rick. I received nothing, no confirmation of any kind.

If only the tracking links worked. Been trying them since the day after
ordering.

On the View Order Status and History page, the tracking button
returns: No details available at this time.

The Track Order link at the top of page, the one that takes you to
both UPS and FedEX, can't find the package. No record in the system.


regards,
al



Re: [H] Taking the plunge to LCD

2007-12-19 Thread Al

Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need to find a model that is
 sold here in Canada.  

For monitors, I like to see it working before walking out of the store.

The return shipping on something you're not happy with kills any online
savings.

regards,
al


Re: [H] Taking the plunge to LCD

2007-12-19 Thread Raul Limos
On Dec 19, 2007 8:51 AM, Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Features:  DVI, HDCP

 Price:  between $250 and $400 (unless someone has a really good reason
 to go higher)



Check out the HP w2207 LCD monitor:
http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3054
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/hp-w2207-lcd-monitor/4505-3174_7-32391039.html


[H] Fw: StarMicro - Bad Guys?

2007-12-19 Thread Rick Glazier

From: Rick Glazier

I only spoke to them once about a compatibility issue on the phone,
and they were both friendly and helpful.


I just happened to think, that was a pre-sales question... grin

ALL companies (~generally) shine in that type of situation...

  Rick G


Re: [H] StarMicro - Bad Guys?

2007-12-19 Thread Rick Glazier

Bummer. I didn't see that posted before... Only that you had not heard.
I only spoke to them once about a compatibility issue on the phone,
and they were both friendly and helpful.
Since they are supposed to have that info on their site, I'd call them again
and ask for at least the tracking number... (Unless you already did last time.)

That type of question should not be a burden since their system does not
seem to function as designed...  


BTW, Since they say it is shipped, ask your CC company ??? if you were
billed yet, even if just a hold/authorization...

Rick Glazier

From: Al 

If only the tracking links worked. Been trying them since the day after
ordering.


[H] Really good hard drive recovery presentation

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
http://www.myharddrivedied.com/advanceddatarecovery.html

From this year's DEFCON.  Scott caused quite a stir with his talk last
year and does pretty awesome work.  His website is full of a lot of
good info about hard drives.

-- 
Brian Weeden


[H] Excellent Anandtech article on overclockign the new Intel 45nm quad cores

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
4.6 Ghz quad core?  Aw yeah.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3184p=1

The article had a ton of great info about overclocking and the pros
and cons of doing it, several of which ahve been discussed on the
list.  There is also a really thorough analysis of the power
consumption.

While these chips are still out of my price range, I can't wait to see
what the lower-end 45nm quad and dual cores can do.

-- 
Brian Weeden


Re: [H] Taking the plunge to LCD

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
On 12/18/07, Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There may be some models that do better, but the difference in color
 reproduction between any TN+ based panel I've seen and either my S-IPS or
 S-PVA Dell screens is dramatic. You don't even have to be doing graphics
 work...to me, the difference was dramatic. This is even comparing brand new
 TN+ panels to my 3 year old S-IPS panel (which itself does much better than
 my 2 year old S-PVA). Admittedly, my sample size is rather small...

 It's annoying that you can't find S-IPS panels on anything but the most
 elite, expensive displays anymore...


 Greg


Greg - do you notice smearing and other issues with your PVA panel,
especially in FPS games?  That is the one complaint I am reading in
lots of reviews.

Bascially, I am getting the general consensus from all these reviews
and articles that unless you are going to pay for a
professional-quality montior you ahve two choices.  TN+ film for
gaming (especially the 2ns Samsung ones) or PVA/IPS for accurate color
reproduction.

That's sort of a bummer but I think I would lean towards TN+ film
since I do a lot more and video work than photoshop.

In either case, I plan on heading out Friday to some big box stores to
check out some of these panels first-hand.


-- 
Brian Weeden


Re: [H] Really good hard drive recovery presentation

2007-12-19 Thread The Beave
Pretty much most of what he went over is true.  But, I would not try a lot
of this at home.  If your data is important I would suggest not taking it
apart.

Although, The SA Area Position he explained is not 100% as he said.  Hitachi
Global Storage Tech has it in the Mid area on the platter. Also, on a live
PCB Board swap, if you have been working with the hard drive, the bad
sectors from the new hd are bad on the old.  So you will never get an exact
match.

So there is a lot of holes in the presentation, but it's a very well put
together and informative presentation.

Tim The Beave Lider
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.myspace.com/dowbeave

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:09 AM
To: hwg
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [H] Really good hard drive recovery presentation

http://www.myharddrivedied.com/advanceddatarecovery.html

From this year's DEFCON.  Scott caused quite a stir with his talk last
year and does pretty awesome work.  His website is full of a lot of
good info about hard drives.

-- 
Brian Weeden




Re: [H] Really good hard drive recovery presentation

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
There was a 22-page white paper that went along with it I have not
seen but I'm assuming he went into more detail there.

On 12/19/07, The Beave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pretty much most of what he went over is true.  But, I would not try a lot
 of this at home.  If your data is important I would suggest not taking it
 apart.

 Although, The SA Area Position he explained is not 100% as he said.  Hitachi
 Global Storage Tech has it in the Mid area on the platter. Also, on a live
 PCB Board swap, if you have been working with the hard drive, the bad
 sectors from the new hd are bad on the old.  So you will never get an exact
 match.

 So there is a lot of holes in the presentation, but it's a very well put
 together and informative presentation.

 Tim The Beave Lider
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.myspace.com/dowbeave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:09 AM
 To: hwg
 Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [H] Really good hard drive recovery presentation

 http://www.myharddrivedied.com/advanceddatarecovery.html

 From this year's DEFCON.  Scott caused quite a stir with his talk last
 year and does pretty awesome work.  His website is full of a lot of
 good info about hard drives.

 --
 Brian Weeden





-- 
Brian Weeden


[H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Thane Sherrington
According to this article, Apple is worried about MS' Zune - I 
thought that product crashed and burned.


http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=46426PageMem=1

T



Re: [H] Really good hard drive recovery presentation

2007-12-19 Thread The Beave
I went over it is very informative. BTW, I think I met this guy up in the
Data Recovery Seminars in Ottawa Canada like 3 years ago. Go Figure...

Tim The Beave Lider
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http://www.myspace.com/dowbeave


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:47 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Really good hard drive recovery presentation

There was a 22-page white paper that went along with it I have not
seen but I'm assuming he went into more detail there.

On 12/19/07, The Beave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pretty much most of what he went over is true.  But, I would not try a lot
 of this at home.  If your data is important I would suggest not taking it
 apart.

 Although, The SA Area Position he explained is not 100% as he said.
Hitachi
 Global Storage Tech has it in the Mid area on the platter. Also, on a live
 PCB Board swap, if you have been working with the hard drive, the bad
 sectors from the new hd are bad on the old.  So you will never get an
exact
 match.

 So there is a lot of holes in the presentation, but it's a very well put
 together and informative presentation.

 Tim The Beave Lider
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.myspace.com/dowbeave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:09 AM
 To: hwg
 Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [H] Really good hard drive recovery
presentation

 http://www.myharddrivedied.com/advanceddatarecovery.html

 From this year's DEFCON.  Scott caused quite a stir with his talk last
 year and does pretty awesome work.  His website is full of a lot of
 good info about hard drives.

 --
 Brian Weeden





-- 
Brian Weeden




Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
First gen did.  Second gen which came out just a bit ago is much
better.  I actually looks a lot like a 3rd gen iPod.  And they lowered
the price quite a bit.

But really I don't think Apple is worried.  The iPod market is already
becoming saturated and margins are slipping.  They've made their
killing and I believe are moving on to other markets that have yet to
develop.

Think iPhone.  While everyone is scrambling to develop the next iPod
Apple is taking over the smart phone market with a device that makes
iPods obsolete.

On 12/19/07, Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 According to this article, Apple is worried about MS' Zune - I
 thought that product crashed and burned.

 http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=46426PageMem=1

 T




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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Hayes Elkins




 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:22:31 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

 Think iPhone. While everyone is scrambling to develop the next iPod
 Apple is taking over the smart phone market with a device that makes
 iPods obsolete.

For the majority of Jim Bob apple users, the iphone makes their desktops 
obsolete.
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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
On 12/19/07, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For the majority of Jim Bob apple users, the iphone makes their desktops 
 obsolete.

I wouldn't go THAT far.  I make a lot of international calls so the
lack of Skype/SIP is a bit problem for me as is the lack of 3G and
data plans here in Canada.  And no cut'n'paste is huge.

But its only the 1st Gen and I expect Apple to make great improvements
over the next few years.

-- 
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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Chris Reeves
I've played with it and would never trade my blackberry for an iphone.  1 word: 
autotext.  


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-Original Message-
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:11:46 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


On 12/19/07, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For the majority of Jim Bob apple users, the iphone makes their desktops 
 obsolete.

I wouldn't go THAT far.  I make a lot of international calls so the
lack of Skype/SIP is a bit problem for me as is the lack of 3G and
data plans here in Canada.  And no cut'n'paste is huge.

But its only the 1st Gen and I expect Apple to make great improvements
over the next few years.

--
Brian Weeden


Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
If you're talking about the autotext on the iphone, it can be turned
off.  After a week or so of using it I find I like it alot.  The only
times I turn it off is when I am typing things with a lot of acronyms.

I never owned a blackberry (just borrowed them for occasional useage)
and I don't understand how people can type on those things.  I can
just imagine the sorts of debilitating medical issues we are going to
have from the whole thumb-texting phenomeon over the next couple
decades :)

On 12/19/07, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've played with it and would never trade my blackberry for an iphone.  1 
 word: autotext.


 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:11:46
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


 On 12/19/07, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  For the majority of Jim Bob apple users, the iphone makes their desktops 
  obsolete.

 I wouldn't go THAT far.  I make a lot of international calls so the
 lack of Skype/SIP is a bit problem for me as is the lack of 3G and
 data plans here in Canada.  And no cut'n'paste is huge.

 But its only the 1st Gen and I expect Apple to make great improvements
 over the next few years.

 --
 Brian Weeden



-- 
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[H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight
I have a older P4 3.4 rig I want to add some SATA ports to. I don't 
want RAID. I will probably get a new/or used 4 port Promise 
controller. Is there any good reason to pay for a 3MB/s controller as 
opposed to a 1.5? Seems to me a PCI bus couldn't handle that kind of 
bandwidth anyway. am I right?




Re: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s

2007-12-19 Thread Greg Sevart
Is there actually any appreciable difference in cost?

But, to answer your question, the PCI bus (assuming standard 32bit/33MHz) is
limited to an aggregate theoretical 133MB/s, so even SATA150 can saturate
the entire bus.

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:21 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s
 
 I have a older P4 3.4 rig I want to add some SATA ports to. I don't
 want RAID. I will probably get a new/or used 4 port Promise
 controller. Is there any good reason to pay for a 3MB/s controller as
 opposed to a 1.5? Seems to me a PCI bus couldn't handle that kind of
 bandwidth anyway. am I right?





Re: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s

2007-12-19 Thread Al

Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there actually any appreciable difference in cost?
 
 But, to answer your question, the PCI bus (assuming standard 32bit/33MHz) is
 limited to an aggregate theoretical 133MB/s, so even SATA150 can saturate
 the entire bus.

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/buses/funcBandwidth-c.html

 Note: You may be somewhat confused by the bandwidth numbers I have
listed in the table above. For example, shouldn't the bandwidth of
standard PCI be 32/8*33.3=133.3 MB/sec? This is how most people and even
companies write it, but this is not technically correct, because of the
old problem of different definitions of what M stands for. The M in
MHz is 1,000,000 (10^6), but the M in MBytes/second is 1,048,576
(2^20). So the bandwidth of the PCI bus is more properly stated as
32/8*33.3*1,000,000/1,048,576=127.2 MBytes/second.



Re: [H] Taking the plunge to LCD

2007-12-19 Thread DHSinclair

Brian,
Just viewed the Acer X203Wbd (16:10) on a NewEgg email add for $189.99
w/PromoCode EMCBCBJAD.  Looks prettty nice. Now I'm thinking too!
Best,
Duncan

At 10:56 12/19/2007 -0500, you wrote:

snip
Greg - do you notice smearing and other issues with your PVA panel,
especially in FPS games?  That is the one complaint I am reading in
lots of reviews.

Bascially, I am getting the general consensus from all these reviews
and articles that unless you are going to pay for a
professional-quality montior you ahve two choices.  TN+ film for
gaming (especially the 2ns Samsung ones) or PVA/IPS for accurate color
reproduction.

That's sort of a bummer but I think I would lean towards TN+ film
since I do a lot more and video work than photoshop.

In either case, I plan on heading out Friday to some big box stores to
check out some of these panels first-hand.


--
Brian Weeden




[H] Logitech Bluetooth trouble

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight
My primary three year old computer has been using Logitech cordless 
mouse/keyboad combinations since I built it. I started with a optical 
mouse set, and then moved on to a Laser mouse set (which I love), and 
just recently attempted to upgrade to a MX5000 which is a newer laser 
mouse with bluetooth, a LCD display on the keyboard and a bluetooth hub.


I have been unable to get it installed. The bluetooth stuff just 
chokes, plus the mouse/keyboard keeps disconnecting... of course, I 
can't get pass the bluetooth part of the install. I am doing a clean 
install, and I disable anti virus, firewall everything thing I can 
stop from loading at boot up. And I boot up clean, and then attempt 
a  install.


But I can't get it installed. First time I have ever had a problem 
with Logitech. I see lots of older complaints about the MX5000 but it 
has been around for over a year and you think they would of corrected 
them by now? Anybody have any personal experience with this product 
or Logitech bluetooh. I am just about to give up trying.




Re: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s

2007-12-19 Thread Hayes Elkins

It practice, the cap for a 32/33 PCI bus on a modern intel chipset is ~ 100MB/s 


 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:33:37 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s


 Greg Sevart  wrote:

 Is there actually any appreciable difference in cost?

 But, to answer your question, the PCI bus (assuming standard 32bit/33MHz) is
 limited to an aggregate theoretical 133MB/s, so even SATA150 can saturate
 the entire bus.

 http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/buses/funcBandwidth-c.html

 Note: You may be somewhat confused by the bandwidth numbers I have
 listed in the table above. For example, shouldn't the bandwidth of
 standard PCI be 32/8*33.3=133.3 MB/sec? This is how most people and even
 companies write it, but this is not technically correct, because of the
 old problem of different definitions of what M stands for. The M in
 MHz is 1,000,000 (10^6), but the M in MBytes/second is 1,048,576
 (2^20). So the bandwidth of the PCI bus is more properly stated as
 32/8*33.3*1,000,000/1,048,576=127.2 MBytes/second.


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Re: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight

At 10:27 AM 12/19/2007, you wrote:

Is there actually any appreciable difference in cost?


Oh yeah, huge,  twice as much or more on Ebay.




But, to answer your question, the PCI bus (assuming standard 32bit/33MHz) is
limited to an aggregate theoretical 133MB/s, so even SATA150 can saturate
the entire bus.
Greg



That is what I figured, thanks, why would they make a PCI 3MB/s 
controller... just marketing?






 I have a older P4 3.4 rig I want to add some SATA ports to. I don't
 want RAID. I will probably get a new/or used 4 port Promise
 controller. Is there any good reason to pay for a 3MB/s controller as
 opposed to a 1.5? Seems to me a PCI bus couldn't handle that kind of
 bandwidth anyway. am I right?




Re: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s

2007-12-19 Thread Greg Sevart
  Note: You may be somewhat confused by the bandwidth numbers I have
 listed in the table above. For example, shouldn't the bandwidth of
 standard PCI be 32/8*33.3=133.3 MB/sec? This is how most people and
 even
 companies write it, but this is not technically correct, because of the
 old problem of different definitions of what M stands for. The M in
 MHz is 1,000,000 (10^6), but the M in MBytes/second is 1,048,576
 (2^20). So the bandwidth of the PCI bus is more properly stated as
 32/8*33.3*1,000,000/1,048,576=127.2 MBytes/second.


Since we're being pedantic, strictly speaking, 133MB/s is correct, since the
M denotes the SI prefix mega--which is by authoritative definition decimal
(base 10). Technically, you would either need to qualify as a binary
Mega(byte), or use the IEC standard binary prefix (ie: mebibyte). 133MB/s
= 127.2MiB/s.

In practice, the difference isn't enough to care about.




Re: [H] PCI Bus at 3MB/s

2007-12-19 Thread Greg Sevart
 
 
 That is what I figured, thanks, why would they make a PCI 3MB/s
 controller... just marketing?
 
 

Most of the controllers that I've seen are actually capable of running at
64bit, 66(+)MHz, or both. A 32bit/66MHz bus would yield 266MB/s, and a
64bit/66MHz bus would yield 533MB/s. In general, you don't see anything
above standard 32/33 in typical mass-deployed end-user chipsets.




Re: [H] Logitech Bluetooth trouble

2007-12-19 Thread The Beave
You need to remove all mouse and keyboard drivers, reset computer and then
Install new drivers. This happens a lot with adding new types of input
devices.

Good luck,

Tim The Beave Lider
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.myspace.com/dowbeave


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:36 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Logitech Bluetooth trouble

My primary three year old computer has been using Logitech cordless 
mouse/keyboad combinations since I built it. I started with a optical 
mouse set, and then moved on to a Laser mouse set (which I love), and 
just recently attempted to upgrade to a MX5000 which is a newer laser 
mouse with bluetooth, a LCD display on the keyboard and a bluetooth hub.

I have been unable to get it installed. The bluetooth stuff just 
chokes, plus the mouse/keyboard keeps disconnecting... of course, I 
can't get pass the bluetooth part of the install. I am doing a clean 
install, and I disable anti virus, firewall everything thing I can 
stop from loading at boot up. And I boot up clean, and then attempt 
a  install.

But I can't get it installed. First time I have ever had a problem 
with Logitech. I see lots of older complaints about the MX5000 but it 
has been around for over a year and you think they would of corrected 
them by now? Anybody have any personal experience with this product 
or Logitech bluetooh. I am just about to give up trying.





Re: [H] Taking the plunge to LCD

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
Newegg doesn't ship to Canada :(

That same monitor is $240 at Bestbuy here.  It's on my list but I was
really thinking 22

On 12/19/07, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Brian,
 Just viewed the Acer X203Wbd (16:10) on a NewEgg email add for $189.99
 w/PromoCode EMCBCBJAD.  Looks prettty nice. Now I'm thinking too!
 Best,
 Duncan

 At 10:56 12/19/2007 -0500, you wrote:
 snip
 Greg - do you notice smearing and other issues with your PVA panel,
 especially in FPS games?  That is the one complaint I am reading in
 lots of reviews.
 
 Bascially, I am getting the general consensus from all these reviews
 and articles that unless you are going to pay for a
 professional-quality montior you ahve two choices.  TN+ film for
 gaming (especially the 2ns Samsung ones) or PVA/IPS for accurate color
 reproduction.
 
 That's sort of a bummer but I think I would lean towards TN+ film
 since I do a lot more and video work than photoshop.
 
 In either case, I plan on heading out Friday to some big box stores to
 check out some of these panels first-hand.
 
 
 --
 Brian Weeden




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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread j maccraw
LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a
Archos or something before I'd 
buy a Zune. Hell I'd buy an Ipod before Zune and I'd
NEVER buy an Ipod...

Thane Sherrington wrote:
 According to this article, Apple is worried about
MS' Zune - I thought 
 that product crashed and burned.
 

http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=46426PageMem=1
 
 T
 
 
 


  

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Re: [H] Logitech Bluetooth trouble

2007-12-19 Thread j maccraw
I've sworn off Logitech since the 1st gen DiNovo burnt
me so bad. To pour salt 
in the would, they never upgrade the stack beyond v2
swearing that Widcomm had 
dropped support for CSR's BT radio while switching to
a new dongle + cradle 
system to replace the 1st gen integrated radio/cradle.

Your best test would be to purchase another BT dongle
like Anycom (who I have 
some issues with)  use their BT stack (Widcomm). If
that works, then you have 
been cursed by the typical Logitech shoddy BT HW 
stack implementation.

Winterlight wrote:
 My primary three year old computer has been using
Logitech cordless 
 mouse/keyboad combinations since I built it. I
started with a optical 
 mouse set, and then moved on to a Laser mouse set
(which I love), and 
 just recently attempted to upgrade to a MX5000 which
is a newer laser 
 mouse with bluetooth, a LCD display on the keyboard
and a bluetooth hub.
 
 I have been unable to get it installed. The
bluetooth stuff just chokes, 
 plus the mouse/keyboard keeps disconnecting... of
course, I can't get 
 pass the bluetooth part of the install. I am doing a
clean install, and 
 I disable anti virus, firewall everything thing I
can stop from loading 
 at boot up. And I boot up clean, and then attempt a 
install.
 
 But I can't get it installed. First time I have ever
had a problem with 
 Logitech. I see lots of older complaints about the
MX5000 but it has 
 been around for over a year and you think they would
of corrected them 
 by now? Anybody have any personal experience with
this product or 
 Logitech bluetooh. I am just about to give up
trying.
 
 
 


  

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Re: [H] Logitech Bluetooth trouble

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight



Your best test would be to purchase another BT dongle
like Anycom (who I have
some issues with)  use their BT stack (Widcomm). If
that works, then you have
been cursed by the typical Logitech shoddy BT HW 
stack implementation.


Actually I have a Bilken BT dongle , still in the shrink wrap, never 
used. But the Logitech one has a connect button on it that is used 
to connect their devices, I am afraid I wouldn't have support beyond 
loading drivers, which means I couldn't select from my boot selection screen.


Online Logitech forum posts seem to indicate that either it works 
just Great   or it's pretty much unusuable... nothing much in 
between. Probably depends on your PC, although it sounds like 
Logitech doesn't have BT down pat yet, which is surprising 
considering they have been selling BT products for well over a year now.





[H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight
Why does Cox block customer service email? They have been doing this 
a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech 
support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked 
by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It 
doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a 
email vendor ,. I have the same


Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that 
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.


error in Eudora.



Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
Looks like it has to do with authenication protocols and could
possibly be a mis-configured SMTP server on Cox's end.

http://help.lockergnome.com/office/553-domain-list-allowed-rcpthosts-ftopict428954.html

http://www.palomine.net/qmail/relaying.html

On 12/19/07, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why does Cox block customer service email? They have been doing this
 a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
 support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
 by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
 doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
 email vendor ,. I have the same

 Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
 domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.

 error in Eudora.




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Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Tharin Olsen
Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service addresses. 
I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your problem. It 
would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to particular userids.

Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying to deliver 
it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP require or support SMTP 
authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora? 

Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client, often 
times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code when the person/host 
trying to send the mail is using a different internet provider or if the 
from/return address on the email is not a valid address for that ISP. Sometimes 
enabling smtp authentication in your mail client is all that needs to be done.

-Tharin O.

Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does Cox block customer service 
email? They have been doing this 
a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech 
support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked 
by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It 
doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a 
email vendor ,. I have the same

Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that 
domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.

error in Eudora.




Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
That's what I thought too Tharin.  I know a lot of ISPs are blocking
email servers inside their networks to cut down on spam.  Maybe this
is somehow related to that.

Could you maybe take a look at the email headers?  Maybe there is a
weird relay there or something.

On 12/19/07, Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
 addresses. I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your 
 problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to particular 
 userids.

 Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying to deliver 
 it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP require or support 
 SMTP authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora?

 Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client, 
 often times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code when the 
 person/host trying to send the mail is using a different internet provider or 
 if the from/return address on the email is not a valid address for that ISP. 
 Sometimes enabling smtp authentication in your mail client is all that needs 
 to be done.

 -Tharin O.

 Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does Cox block customer service 
 email? They have been doing this
 a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
 support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
 by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
 doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
 email vendor ,. I have the same

 Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
 domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.

 error in Eudora.





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Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight

At 03:48 PM 12/19/2007, you wrote:
Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
addresses.


not strange if Cox is blocking the domains or user name. I don't use 
COX SMTP. I use Godaddy's, and even though it gets blocked when I try 
to send it out of Eudora using Godaddy SMTP or Outlook using COX 
SMTP, I can log into my Godaddy email web interface and send things 
out just fine. so it isn't Godaddy ... it has to be COX... no??



I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your 
problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to 
particular userids.


Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying 
to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP 
require or support SMTP authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora?


Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client,


no, I am either pasting in the name or replying to email I received 
from some support or customer service address. This has been going on 
for well over a year.





Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Winterlight



Could you maybe take a look at the email headers?  Maybe there is a
weird relay there or something.


I can't see headers of the mail that doesn't arrive, and until the 
email is accepted, and leaves there are no headers I can see, other 
then the address.







On 12/19/07, Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer 
service addresses. I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole 
story on your problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing 
mail to particular userids.


 Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and 
trying to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does 
your ISP require or support SMTP authentication and have you 
enabled it in Eudora?


 Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail 
client, often times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code 
when the person/host trying to send the mail is using a different 
internet provider or if the from/return address on the email is not 
a valid address for that ISP. Sometimes enabling smtp 
authentication in your mail client is all that needs to be done.


 -Tharin O.

 Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does Cox 
block customer service email? They have been doing this

 a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
 support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
 by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
 doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
 email vendor ,. I have the same

 Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
 domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.

 error in Eudora.





--
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Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
Yep, sorry wasn't thinking.

Sorry I don't really have anything else to suggest.  I use gmail for
everything and haven't had to deal with SMTP or ISP email in years so
I don't have much experience with this.


On 12/19/07, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you maybe take a look at the email headers?  Maybe there is a
 weird relay there or something.

 I can't see headers of the mail that doesn't arrive, and until the
 email is accepted, and leaves there are no headers I can see, other
 then the address.





 On 12/19/07, Tharin Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer
  service addresses. I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole
  story on your problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing
  mail to particular userids.
  
   Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and
  trying to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does
  your ISP require or support SMTP authentication and have you
  enabled it in Eudora?
  
   Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail
  client, often times a smtp server will reject mail with a 553 code
  when the person/host trying to send the mail is using a different
  internet provider or if the from/return address on the email is not
  a valid address for that ISP. Sometimes enabling smtp
  authentication in your mail client is all that needs to be done.
  
   -Tharin O.
  
   Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does Cox
  block customer service email? They have been doing this
   a long time. I can't reply with Eudora to anything from any tech
   support, or customer service, or anything like that. It gets blocked
   by COX SMTP server. I end up having to send from a web interface. It
   doesn't matter if I am sending to a big company like Logitech or a
   email vendor ,. I have the same
  
   Can't send to ''.  The server gives this reason: '553 Sorry, that
   domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts.'.
  
   error in Eudora.
  
  
  
 
 
 --
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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread j maccraw
M is not W, flat out Zen W has the bigger screen and
slightly less annoying 
software to load files with.



Ben Ruset wrote:
 I bought a Vision:M and within 2 days sold it and
bought a 5th Gen iPod.
 
 For me nothing is better than iTunes + iPod.
 
 j maccraw wrote:
 LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a
 Archos or something before I'd buy a Zune. Hell I'd
buy an Ipod before 
 Zune and I'd
 NEVER buy an Ipod...



  

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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
I was actually a big fan of MediaMonkey on both Windows and Linux.
But alas with the iPhone you must use iTunes to sync with it - they
haven't cracked that part yet.

There is a hack to sync music but nothing else, no contacts or videos
or anything.

On 12/19/07, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bah I may be alone but I hate itunes with a passion.  Even on my wife's ipod, 
 before it was recently destroyed, we just used anapod explorer instead.


 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

 -Original Message-
 From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:35:15
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


 M is not W, flat out Zen W has the bigger screen and
 slightly less annoying
 software to load files with.



 Ben Ruset wrote:
  I bought a Vision:M and within 2 days sold it and
 bought a 5th Gen iPod.
 
  For me nothing is better than iTunes + iPod.
 
  j maccraw wrote:
  LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a
  Archos or something before I'd buy a Zune. Hell I'd
 buy an Ipod before
  Zune and I'd
  NEVER buy an Ipod...



   
 
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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread tmservo
Yeah.  You know, this is partly turning into a pita for me.  I have a client 
who's exchange 2000 server bit it.  So down went their whole sbs domain (this 
is a new client who got me after this happened).  Anyway, we get everything 
back up on new server, merge their old mailboxes back in, etc. But no matter 
what, their iphones now refuse to synchronize with new server.  Blah   If I 
can figure out how to make it release old server and connect to the new, damn 
would that be handy.  
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:45:39 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


I was actually a big fan of MediaMonkey on both Windows and Linux.
But alas with the iPhone you must use iTunes to sync with it - they
haven't cracked that part yet.

There is a hack to sync music but nothing else, no contacts or videos
or anything.

On 12/19/07, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bah I may be alone but I hate itunes with a passion.  Even on my wife's ipod, 
 before it was recently destroyed, we just used anapod explorer instead.


 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

 -Original Message-
 From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:35:15
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


 M is not W, flat out Zen W has the bigger screen and
 slightly less annoying
 software to load files with.



 Ben Ruset wrote:
  I bought a Vision:M and within 2 days sold it and
 bought a 5th Gen iPod.
 
  For me nothing is better than iTunes + iPod.
 
  j maccraw wrote:
  LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a
  Archos or something before I'd buy a Zune. Hell I'd
 buy an Ipod before
  Zune and I'd
  NEVER buy an Ipod...



   
 
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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or
SMTP functions.

On 12/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah.  You know, this is partly turning into a pita for me.  I have a client 
 who's exchange 2000 server bit it.  So down went their whole sbs domain (this 
 is a new client who got me after this happened).  Anyway, we get everything 
 back up on new server, merge their old mailboxes back in, etc. But no matter 
 what, their iphones now refuse to synchronize with new server.  Blah   If 
 I can figure out how to make it release old server and connect to the new, 
 damn would that be handy.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:45:39
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


 I was actually a big fan of MediaMonkey on both Windows and Linux.
 But alas with the iPhone you must use iTunes to sync with it - they
 haven't cracked that part yet.

 There is a hack to sync music but nothing else, no contacts or videos
 or anything.

 On 12/19/07, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bah I may be alone but I hate itunes with a passion.  Even on my wife's 
  ipod, before it was recently destroyed, we just used anapod explorer 
  instead.
 
 
  Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
 
  -Original Message-
  From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:35:15
  To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?
 
 
  M is not W, flat out Zen W has the bigger screen and
  slightly less annoying
  software to load files with.
 
 
 
  Ben Ruset wrote:
   I bought a Vision:M and within 2 days sold it and
  bought a 5th Gen iPod.
  
   For me nothing is better than iTunes + iPod.
  
   j maccraw wrote:
   LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a
   Archos or something before I'd buy a Zune. Hell I'd
  buy an Ipod before
   Zune and I'd
   NEVER buy an Ipod...
 
 
 

  
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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Chris Reeves
It will synchronize calendars with outlook on exchange though.  
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:16:06 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or
SMTP functions.

On 12/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah.  You know, this is partly turning into a pita for me.  I have a client 
 who's exchange 2000 server bit it.  So down went their whole sbs domain (this 
 is a new client who got me after this happened).  Anyway, we get everything 
 back up on new server, merge their old mailboxes back in, etc. But no matter 
 what, their iphones now refuse to synchronize with new server.  Blah   If 
 I can figure out how to make it release old server and connect to the new, 
 damn would that be handy.
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:45:39
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


 I was actually a big fan of MediaMonkey on both Windows and Linux.
 But alas with the iPhone you must use iTunes to sync with it - they
 haven't cracked that part yet.

 There is a hack to sync music but nothing else, no contacts or videos
 or anything.

 On 12/19/07, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bah I may be alone but I hate itunes with a passion.  Even on my wife's 
  ipod, before it was recently destroyed, we just used anapod explorer 
  instead.
 
 
  Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
 
  -Original Message-
  From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:35:15
  To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?
 
 
  M is not W, flat out Zen W has the bigger screen and
  slightly less annoying
  software to load files with.
 
 
 
  Ben Ruset wrote:
   I bought a Vision:M and within 2 days sold it and
  bought a 5th Gen iPod.
  
   For me nothing is better than iTunes + iPod.
  
   j maccraw wrote:
   LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a
   Archos or something before I'd buy a Zune. Hell I'd
  buy an Ipod before
   Zune and I'd
   NEVER buy an Ipod...
 
 
 

  
  Looking for last minute shopping deals?
  Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  
  http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
 


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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Ben Ruset
I don't use my ipod to watch videos, so the larger screen doesn't 
interest me.


As for the software, I suppose it's subjective. I have yet to find 
anything that is as nice to use as iTunes to use. The Creative software 
that I used with my Vision:M was terrible. I can only hope they improved 
on it since then.


j maccraw wrote:

M is not W, flat out Zen W has the bigger screen and
slightly less annoying 
software to load files with.




Ben Ruset wrote:

I bought a Vision:M and within 2 days sold it and

bought a 5th Gen iPod.

For me nothing is better than iTunes + iPod.

j maccraw wrote:

LOL, I'd buy another Creative ZEN Vision:W then a
Archos or something before I'd buy a Zune. Hell I'd
buy an Ipod before 

Zune and I'd
NEVER buy an Ipod...




  

Looking for last minute shopping deals?  
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping




Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Ben Ruset
You are correct. The few iPhone users (as well as people with 
Blackberries) in my office are using Secure IMAP and SMTP auth to 
send/receive mail.




Brian Weeden wrote:

AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or
SMTP functions.


Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread tmservo
You can make blackberries work with exchange right off the bat with BES, 
Redirector or the new BIS.  


Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:23:07 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


You are correct. The few iPhone users (as well as people with 
Blackberries) in my office are using Secure IMAP and SMTP auth to 
send/receive mail.



Brian Weeden wrote:
 AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or
 SMTP functions.


Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Ben Ruset
This is one area that Windows Mobile shines. OTA syncing with Exchange 
over HTTP. You can even do quasi-push email by having the phone keep 
it's HTTP connection open for a long time, and if there is new mail that 
shows up while the connection is open, the server sends it on down to 
the phone.


Even Palm OS type devices support OTA syncing with Exchange, although in 
slightly crappier form.


Chris Reeves wrote:
It will synchronize calendars with outlook on exchange though.  
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT


Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Ben Ruset
Sure, if you want to pay for BES. We have no corporate owned mobile 
phones, so people use what they own.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can make blackberries work with exchange right off the bat with BES, Redirector or the new BIS.  



Sent via BlackBerry 


-Original Message-
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:23:07 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


You are correct. The few iPhone users (as well as people with 
Blackberries) in my office are using Secure IMAP and SMTP auth to 
send/receive mail.




Brian Weeden wrote:

AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or
SMTP functions.




Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Chris Reeves
Why would you pay when Verizon and Cingular let you configure theirs to work 
with yours in their new system, and its really slick (synchronizes via OWA).  
Hell, I synch three different exchange servers on my blackberry.  
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:27:51 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


Sure, if you want to pay for BES. We have no corporate owned mobile
phones, so people use what they own.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can make blackberries work with exchange right off the bat with BES, 
 Redirector or the new BIS.


 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:23:07
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


 You are correct. The few iPhone users (as well as people with
 Blackberries) in my office are using Secure IMAP and SMTP auth to
 send/receive mail.



 Brian Weeden wrote:
 AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or
 SMTP functions.



Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Brian Weeden
I really don't understand the need for this email syncing and exchange
server stuff.  What advantages does it have over me getting my gmail
through IMAP?

On 12/19/07, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would you pay when Verizon and Cingular let you configure theirs to work 
 with yours in their new system, and its really slick (synchronizes via OWA).  
 Hell, I synch three different exchange servers on my blackberry.
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:27:51
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?


 Sure, if you want to pay for BES. We have no corporate owned mobile
 phones, so people use what they own.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You can make blackberries work with exchange right off the bat with BES, 
  Redirector or the new BIS.
 
 
  Sent via BlackBerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:23:07
  To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?
 
 
  You are correct. The few iPhone users (as well as people with
  Blackberries) in my office are using Secure IMAP and SMTP auth to
  send/receive mail.
 
 
 
  Brian Weeden wrote:
  AFAIK the iPhone doesn't support exchange servers, only basic IMAP or
  SMTP functions.
 



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Re: [H] Is the Zune really back?

2007-12-19 Thread Ben Ruset
For one, many Exchange admins don't allow IMAP access to their servers. 
Secondly, with Exchange you'd also sync your calendar and contact lists 
as well.


It's really more useful if you're using Exchange for collaboration with 
colleagues at work, and you want to replicate the functionality of 
Outlook on your mobile device.


Brian Weeden wrote:

I really don't understand the need for this email syncing and exchange
server stuff.  What advantages does it have over me getting my gmail
through IMAP?


Re: [H] Cox blocking

2007-12-19 Thread Tharin Olsen
For an ISP to block a particular userid is a strange idea to me.

Do a test by using an email account that is configured with all your valid Cox 
credentials first. Setup eudora, outlook, or whatever with an account that has 
your Cox address as the from and reply-to address. Looks like your smtp server 
is smtp.west.cox.net

Section V of the following link may have details pertinent to your trouble.
http://www.cox.com/sandiego/highspeedinternet/spamfaq.asp

-Tharin O.

Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:48 PM 12/19/2007, you wrote:
Strange it would do that ONLY when sending mail to customer service 
addresses.

not strange if Cox is blocking the domains or user name. I don't use 
COX SMTP. I use Godaddy's, and even though it gets blocked when I try 
to send it out of Eudora using Godaddy SMTP or Outlook using COX 
SMTP, I can log into my Godaddy email web interface and send things 
out just fine. so it isn't Godaddy ... it has to be COX... no??


I honestly can't imagine this could be the whole story on your 
problem. It would imply that Cox is blocking outgoing mail to 
particular userids.

Are you actually connected to a Cox internet connection and trying 
to deliver it through the proper Cox smtp server??  Does your ISP 
require or support SMTP authentication and have you enabled it in Eudora?

Assuming you aren't making a typo in the 'To:' field of you mail client,

no, I am either pasting in the name or replying to email I received 
from some support or customer service address. This has been going on 
for well over a year.





[H] Playing?

2007-12-19 Thread DHSinclair

What do I need to add to my cdrw to get it to read and play?
Have cd burned with a dot-iso for FreeNAS. Yes, know it is FreeBSD based.
OK.
The cd seems to be missing some (?) boot loader. Which one?
Am getting the following msg:

Verifying DMI Pool Data.
Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM:  Failure

NTLDR is missing
Press CAD to restart

Where do I start? No idea why IT looks for NTLDR. The hard drive has been 
erased!

Perhaps I need to format it yet againfrom MSDOS :)
It is only 1.08GB in size, and, is really old..but still kicking
I'll be up most of the night with this one.
Best,
Duncan



Re: [H] Playing?

2007-12-19 Thread Tharin Olsen
The fact that the hard drive was formatted with Win2K/XP is why you see the 
NTLDR message, this is nothing to worry about. The more pressing issue is why 
your CD-ROM did not boot. If the cd was burned properly it should have booted. 
An ISO is a disc image and would already contain the necessary boot loader if 
thats how the cd was meant to be used.

Did you actually create a cd FROM a disc image or did you just place the iso 
file onto the cd??? What I mean is if you look at the contents of your cd drive 
from windows do you see a bunch of files or just one little lonely iso file?? 
The burned cd should have a volume name of FreeNAS_cd, a directory called 
boot and a couple of gnuzipped files in the root path, 17 files in all on the 
cd.

Just in case... try using Active@ ISO Burner, a small freeware utility, to burn 
a new disc. It is designed to just burn iso files. Dummy proof for a sod like 
me :)

Download Page
http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm

Direct Link
http://www.ntfs.com/downloads/Iso-burner.exe



-Tharin O.

DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to add to my cdrw to get 
it to read and play?
Have cd burned with a dot-iso for FreeNAS. Yes, know it is FreeBSD based.
OK.
The cd seems to be missing some (?) boot loader. Which one?
Am getting the following msg:

Verifying DMI Pool Data.
Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM:  Failure

NTLDR is missing
Press CAD to restart

Where do I start? No idea why IT looks for NTLDR. The hard drive has been 
erased!
Perhaps I need to format it yet againfrom MSDOS :)
It is only 1.08GB in size, and, is really old..but still kicking
I'll be up most of the night with this one.
Best,
Duncan




Re: [H] Playing?

2007-12-19 Thread DHSinclair

Well, no. Not in the version of Nero that I am using.
At 22:26 12/19/2007 -0800, you wrote:

In Nero there will be an option to create a cd from an Image


Nope, have not seen this. I have /make data cd/ or /make bootable cd/.

as opposed to making a plain old Data cd. I'm afraid you did the latter 
and this is a common mistake by folks who haven't really dealt with disc 
images before.


have made both. Neither has worked.


 Depending on whether you are using Nero, Nero Express


Believe it is Nero Express. /It was a free cd with my dvd burners from 
AOpen. Says v6.0.


 , or the Nero gui frontend, the option to do it is in a different place. 
If need be, check the 'Help' in Nero.


I will.later.

 I'm sure they have a section dedicated on the proper way to burn ISO and 
other cd image formats.


-Tharin Olsen

thanks for the good pointers, again..
Best,
Duncan




[H] THANK YOU!

2007-12-19 Thread DHSinclair

Tharin O. and Julian,

The trick from Tharin got the binary running!
(I'll figure out Nero in the am..)
Yes, your link to the tool worked. Have a bootable iso now.
FreeNAS is now sorta running around in a very old pooter!
And, does it ever look very strange. Just a bit.. :)
Run Baby Run! This is all just too good. The hdw is just so old.
No clue whether it is even happy yet; but it boots.
And it now lives on the c:/ HD. Gave it the whole drive even
though it said it only needed 64MB! Damn! Now I think I know
why this FBSD is maybe a future.
Yes, I will RTFM!
L8R!
This is just too neat. Thank you all.
Best,
Duncan