Re: [H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

[Brian Weeden]

I am still damn happy with my Q6600 I bought over a year ago and overlcocked
to 3GHz.  But I'm guessing you are looking for something newer.

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On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, DSinc  wrote:

> Anthony,
> Since I have updated 3 machines to Intel C2D procs, I am very happy.
> Do not believe you need to go all the way to Itanium 7 devices. Seems
> several here have had very good results with Itanium 5 devices/builds.
> I plan to stay with C2D until someone can convince me otherwise. :)
> C2D just rocks so well here for me. But, I do NOT do anything special like
> all the current "media" related activities. I am not into my PC controls my
> whole house and everything I might wish to do. I am NOT HAL-centric.
> LOL!
> Best,
> Duncan
>
>
>
> Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I need to upgrade my work computer to something more modern (which runs
>> Win7 fine).
>>
>> What I'm like to do is move the mobo from my home machine to my office
>> machine, so the new mobo would come to my home machine.
>>
>> This current machine has a Gigabit mobo and runs a dual core CPU 3.0 GHz.
>>  This machine gets a 5.5/7.9 on the WEI, so it handles Win7 just fine.
>> The office machine is old, though. Pentium 4 3.6 GHz.
>> So, what should I get for the home mobo?  I'm no gamer, though I used to
>> dream of such.  I've been making lots if high-def videos, though, at 720p.
>> I'd like to move to 1080p, if possible.
>>
>> All of the processor options are just mind boggling, it seems.  I think I
>> want to stay intel, so I'm not sure whyshould I go with this i7 line
>> cpus?  I like Gigabytes mobos, so I'm thinking I'll stay in the line (I
>> still have two PCs with Gigabyte mobos and both seem to run fine.
>>
>> So, where should I buy?  I don't need top of the line, but I'm thinking of
>> running Win7 64bit with at least 4 GB of ram.
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

[DSinc]

Anthony,
Since I have updated 3 machines to Intel C2D procs, I am very happy.
Do not believe you need to go all the way to Itanium 7 devices. Seems 
several here have had very good results with Itanium 5 devices/builds.

I plan to stay with C2D until someone can convince me otherwise. :)
C2D just rocks so well here for me. But, I do NOT do anything special 
like all the current "media" related activities. I am not into my PC 
controls my whole house and everything I might wish to do. I am NOT 
HAL-centric. LOL!

Best,
Duncan


Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Folks,

I need to upgrade my work computer to something more modern (which runs 
Win7 fine).


What I'm like to do is move the mobo from my home machine to my office 
machine, so the new mobo would come to my home machine.


This current machine has a Gigabit mobo and runs a dual core CPU 3.0 
GHz.  This machine gets a 5.5/7.9 on the WEI, so it handles Win7 just fine.

The office machine is old, though. Pentium 4 3.6 GHz.
So, what should I get for the home mobo?  I'm no gamer, though I used to 
dream of such.  I've been making lots if high-def videos, though, at 
720p. I'd like to move to 1080p, if possible.


All of the processor options are just mind boggling, it seems.  I think 
I want to stay intel, so I'm not sure whyshould I go with this i7 
line cpus?  I like Gigabytes mobos, so I'm thinking I'll stay in the 
line (I still have two PCs with Gigabyte mobos and both seem to run fine.


So, where should I buy?  I don't need top of the line, but I'm thinking 
of running Win7 64bit with at least 4 GB of ram.


Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Re: [H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

[Stan Zaske]

There are many hardware reviews on Intel boards on the web covering 
Gigabyte mobo's. I swear by Giabyte and have 3 boxes running their 
boards. Good luck!


Anthony Q. Martin wrote:

Folks,

I need to upgrade my work computer to something more modern (which 
runs Win7 fine).


What I'm like to do is move the mobo from my home machine to my office 
machine, so the new mobo would come to my home machine.


This current machine has a Gigabit mobo and runs a dual core CPU 3.0 
GHz.  This machine gets a 5.5/7.9 on the WEI, so it handles Win7 just 
fine.

The office machine is old, though. Pentium 4 3.6 GHz.
So, what should I get for the home mobo?  I'm no gamer, though I used 
to dream of such.  I've been making lots if high-def videos, though, 
at 720p. I'd like to move to 1080p, if possible.


All of the processor options are just mind boggling, it seems.  I 
think I want to stay intel, so I'm not sure whyshould I go with 
this i7 line cpus?  I like Gigabytes mobos, so I'm thinking I'll stay 
in the line (I still have two PCs with Gigabyte mobos and both seem to 
run fine.


So, where should I buy?  I don't need top of the line, but I'm 
thinking of running Win7 64bit with at least 4 GB of ram.


Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

[Anthony Q. Martin]

Folks,

I need to upgrade my work computer to something more modern (which runs 
Win7 fine).


What I'm like to do is move the mobo from my home machine to my office 
machine, so the new mobo would come to my home machine.


This current machine has a Gigabit mobo and runs a dual core CPU 3.0 
GHz.  This machine gets a 5.5/7.9 on the WEI, so it handles Win7 just fine.
The office machine is old, though. Pentium 4 3.6 GHz. 

So, what should I get for the home mobo?  I'm no gamer, though I used to 
dream of such.  I've been making lots if high-def videos, though, at 
720p. I'd like to move to 1080p, if possible.


All of the processor options are just mind boggling, it seems.  I think 
I want to stay intel, so I'm not sure whyshould I go with this i7 
line cpus?  I like Gigabytes mobos, so I'm thinking I'll stay in the 
line (I still have two PCs with Gigabyte mobos and both seem to run fine.


So, where should I buy?  I don't need top of the line, but I'm thinking 
of running Win7 64bit with at least 4 GB of ram.


Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[maccrawj]

Then IMO you are doing your customers a disservice in the current market selling them 
AMD solutions.


Joe User wrote:

Hello FORC5,

Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:04:21 PM, you wrote:


u guys making me feel deprived, main box and server still AMD.
Still building AMD systems for customers. Hope I am not the only one
supporting the supposed underdog :-)


No way man, I vend AMD also... I'd say 95% of my systems are AMD.
For personal I go with whatever the collective sees as best bang for
the buck last time is was the E something... the core duo 3GHZ

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Joe User]

Hello FORC5,

Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:04:21 PM, you wrote:

> u guys making me feel deprived, main box and server still AMD.
> Still building AMD systems for customers. Hope I am not the only one
> supporting the supposed underdog :-)

No way man, I vend AMD also... I'd say 95% of my systems are AMD.
For personal I go with whatever the collective sees as best bang for
the buck last time is was the E something... the core duo 3GHZ

-- 
Regards,
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Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[FORC5]

u guys making me feel deprived, main box and server still AMD. Still building 
AMD systems for customers. Hope I am not the only one supporting the supposed 
underdog :-)

Intel lost me with socket 775, seems ass backwards.

That said am thinking of updating and have been reading intently the back and 
forths. Of course the second I switch sides AMD will do something to upset me. 
I still think for most ppl and general stuff good bang for the buck. JMO

fp

At 07:40 PM 10/16/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with:
>Right now amd's best role is as mediacenters.  I've found nothing as effective 
>as a 780g mb + chip for a cheap mediacenter.  Not even close actually on the 
>intel side.  But its still a niche market.  
>Sent via BlackBerry 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: maccrawj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:37:21 
>To: 
>Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time
>
>
>Worried about AMD going bankrupt? OK, I missed that point & was assuming you 
>meant if 
>no one buys AMD despite lack luster products that we'd loose them!
>
>AMD would not be in trouble if they weren't terrible managing business, and if 
>they 
>had a product worth buying besides ATI products (who they might yet run into 
>the 
>ground). Same poor management issues killed Commodore back in the day and they 
>had 
>great products.
>
>
>Stan Zaske wrote:
>> You lost me at it not being an issue of a one vendor market. If AMD goes 
>> bankrupt it will be a one vendor market.
>> 
>> 
>> maccrawj wrote:
>>> It's not an issue of a one vendor market. When AMD comes up with 
>>> something good enough you can be sure the market will swing yet again 
>>> to AMD's camp.
>>>
>>> What makes me laugh are all the complete "power gamer" PC's in EGM 
>>> that only come in AMD flavors during a Intel market. Well, that and 
>>> the price of said PC's being < $1000 loaded with features which is 
>>> flat out impossible to do & still have a "power gamer" PC.
>>>

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Tallyho ! ]:8)
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Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[tmservo]

Right now amd's best role is as mediacenters.  I've found nothing as effective 
as a 780g mb + chip for a cheap mediacenter.  Not even close actually on the 
intel side.  But its still a niche market.  
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: maccrawj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:37:21 
To: 
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time


Worried about AMD going bankrupt? OK, I missed that point & was assuming you 
meant if 
no one buys AMD despite lack luster products that we'd loose them!

AMD would not be in trouble if they weren't terrible managing business, and if 
they 
had a product worth buying besides ATI products (who they might yet run into 
the 
ground). Same poor management issues killed Commodore back in the day and they 
had 
great products.


Stan Zaske wrote:
> You lost me at it not being an issue of a one vendor market. If AMD goes 
> bankrupt it will be a one vendor market.
> 
> 
> maccrawj wrote:
>> It's not an issue of a one vendor market. When AMD comes up with 
>> something good enough you can be sure the market will swing yet again 
>> to AMD's camp.
>>
>> What makes me laugh are all the complete "power gamer" PC's in EGM 
>> that only come in AMD flavors during a Intel market. Well, that and 
>> the price of said PC's being < $1000 loaded with features which is 
>> flat out impossible to do & still have a "power gamer" PC.
>>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[maccrawj]

Worried about AMD going bankrupt? OK, I missed that point & was assuming you meant if 
no one buys AMD despite lack luster products that we'd loose them!


AMD would not be in trouble if they weren't terrible managing business, and if they 
had a product worth buying besides ATI products (who they might yet run into the 
ground). Same poor management issues killed Commodore back in the day and they had 
great products.



Stan Zaske wrote:
You lost me at it not being an issue of a one vendor market. If AMD goes 
bankrupt it will be a one vendor market.



maccrawj wrote:
It's not an issue of a one vendor market. When AMD comes up with 
something good enough you can be sure the market will swing yet again 
to AMD's camp.


What makes me laugh are all the complete "power gamer" PC's in EGM 
that only come in AMD flavors during a Intel market. Well, that and 
the price of said PC's being < $1000 loaded with features which is 
flat out impossible to do & still have a "power gamer" PC.

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[FORC5]

MS will fix it with the next OS. More Hp and Memory needed. >:-}

The other day had the op to work on a OLD 286 running a Dos data base proggy 
with only 256k memory.
More around then one would think.

Amazingly FAST

FWIW
fp

At 09:36 PM 10/13/2008, Stan Zaske Poked the stick with:
>I agree that we are in the era of "good enough" computing and it doesn't 
>matter how superior Core i7 is because the bottle necks are in other parts of 
>the system and that means primarily the hard drive. I'm  
>worried about a market with only one CPU manufacturer and what it would mean 
>about mainstream afford ability. I have not given in to the temptation of 
>Intel and my Athlon 5400+ BE is fast enough even without over clocking. Deneb 
>isn't here until February or March but I too look forward to it.

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Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Stan Zaske]

Of course this is all very preliminary and we won't get the real goods 
until the NDA expires next month but check this out.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/reviews/0810/1438115.html


Greg Sevart wrote:

I agree that we are in the era of "good enough" computing and it
doesn't
matter how superior Core i7 is because the bottle necks are in other
parts of the system and that means primarily the hard drive. I'm



Eh, that's a pretty tired argument. While it's true that disk performance
has not kept pace, it isn't true to say that increases in processor
performance are pointless. There are a lot of workloads that do benefit from
pure CPU performance and place little emphasis on i/o--like H.264 encoding,
which is the main reason I run a quad, and the main reason I'm interested in
i7.

  

worried about a market with only one CPU manufacturer and what it would
mean about mainstream afford ability. I have not given in to the
temptation of Intel and my Athlon 5400+ BE is fast enough even without
over clocking. Deneb isn't here until February or March but I too look
forward to it.



And that's what it is all about. Find a product that fits your needs. The BE
5400+ may fit your needs perfectly; it doesn't fit mine. AMD doesn't offer
anything right now that is a good fit for me. 


Insofar as the "one-vendor" concern, I think that with the spinoff of AMD's
fabrication plants, AMD's solvency has increased such that the risk of them
failing has largely evaporated. There is a tremendous debt load associated
with building, running, and maintaining fabs that they've been able to shed.
I do wonder, however, if moving chip manufacturing out of house will
ultimately diminish AMD's ability to execute effectively. That's assuming
that they're able to retain their x86 license, of course. :)

Greg
 





  

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Stan Zaske]

You lost me at it not being an issue of a one vendor market. If AMD goes 
bankrupt it will be a one vendor market.



maccrawj wrote:
It's not an issue of a one vendor market. When AMD comes up with 
something good enough you can be sure the market will swing yet again 
to AMD's camp.


What makes me laugh are all the complete "power gamer" PC's in EGM 
that only come in AMD flavors during a Intel market. Well, that and 
the price of said PC's being < $1000 loaded with features which is 
flat out impossible to do & still have a "power gamer" PC.


Stan Zaske wrote:
I agree that we are in the era of "good enough" computing and it 
doesn't matter how superior Core i7 is because the bottle necks are 
in other parts of the system and that means primarily the hard drive. 
I'm  worried about a market with only one CPU manufacturer and what 
it would mean about mainstream afford ability. I have not given in to 
the temptation of Intel and my Athlon 5400+ BE is fast enough even 
without over clocking. Deneb isn't here until February or March but I 
too look forward to it.



Greg Sevart wrote:

Oh, I completely agree--I wouldn't buy an AMD right now either. But my
loyalty is thin. AMD's 45nm Deneb generation chips look to be 
capable of
clocking fairly high. I at least allow for the possibility that 
tomorrow may

be different--though I expect Core i7 to eat its lunch. I'm taking a
wait-and-see approach before deciding on the replacement for my superb
3.6GHz Q6600.

I think that some could make the argument that we are now largely in 
an era

of "good enough" computing, too.

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Greg Sevart]

> 
> I agree that we are in the era of "good enough" computing and it
> doesn't
> matter how superior Core i7 is because the bottle necks are in other
> parts of the system and that means primarily the hard drive. I'm

Eh, that's a pretty tired argument. While it's true that disk performance
has not kept pace, it isn't true to say that increases in processor
performance are pointless. There are a lot of workloads that do benefit from
pure CPU performance and place little emphasis on i/o--like H.264 encoding,
which is the main reason I run a quad, and the main reason I'm interested in
i7.

> worried about a market with only one CPU manufacturer and what it would
> mean about mainstream afford ability. I have not given in to the
> temptation of Intel and my Athlon 5400+ BE is fast enough even without
> over clocking. Deneb isn't here until February or March but I too look
> forward to it.

And that's what it is all about. Find a product that fits your needs. The BE
5400+ may fit your needs perfectly; it doesn't fit mine. AMD doesn't offer
anything right now that is a good fit for me. 

Insofar as the "one-vendor" concern, I think that with the spinoff of AMD's
fabrication plants, AMD's solvency has increased such that the risk of them
failing has largely evaporated. There is a tremendous debt load associated
with building, running, and maintaining fabs that they've been able to shed.
I do wonder, however, if moving chip manufacturing out of house will
ultimately diminish AMD's ability to execute effectively. That's assuming
that they're able to retain their x86 license, of course. :)

Greg
 

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[maccrawj]

It's not an issue of a one vendor market. When AMD comes up with something good 
enough you can be sure the market will swing yet again to AMD's camp.


What makes me laugh are all the complete "power gamer" PC's in EGM that only come in 
AMD flavors during a Intel market. Well, that and the price of said PC's being < 
$1000 loaded with features which is flat out impossible to do & still have a "power 
gamer" PC.


Stan Zaske wrote:
I agree that we are in the era of "good enough" computing and it doesn't 
matter how superior Core i7 is because the bottle necks are in other 
parts of the system and that means primarily the hard drive. I'm  
worried about a market with only one CPU manufacturer and what it would 
mean about mainstream afford ability. I have not given in to the 
temptation of Intel and my Athlon 5400+ BE is fast enough even without 
over clocking. Deneb isn't here until February or March but I too look 
forward to it.



Greg Sevart wrote:

Oh, I completely agree--I wouldn't buy an AMD right now either. But my
loyalty is thin. AMD's 45nm Deneb generation chips look to be capable of
clocking fairly high. I at least allow for the possibility that 
tomorrow may

be different--though I expect Core i7 to eat its lunch. I'm taking a
wait-and-see approach before deciding on the replacement for my superb
3.6GHz Q6600.

I think that some could make the argument that we are now largely in 
an era

of "good enough" computing, too.

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Stan Zaske]

I agree that we are in the era of "good enough" computing and it doesn't 
matter how superior Core i7 is because the bottle necks are in other 
parts of the system and that means primarily the hard drive. I'm  
worried about a market with only one CPU manufacturer and what it would 
mean about mainstream afford ability. I have not given in to the 
temptation of Intel and my Athlon 5400+ BE is fast enough even without 
over clocking. Deneb isn't here until February or March but I too look 
forward to it.



Greg Sevart wrote:

Oh, I completely agree--I wouldn't buy an AMD right now either. But my
loyalty is thin. AMD's 45nm Deneb generation chips look to be capable of
clocking fairly high. I at least allow for the possibility that tomorrow may
be different--though I expect Core i7 to eat its lunch. I'm taking a
wait-and-see approach before deciding on the replacement for my superb
3.6GHz Q6600.

I think that some could make the argument that we are now largely in an era
of "good enough" computing, too.


  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of maccrawj
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 1:58 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time

Whatever, it's too little to late from AMD, I looked to build an AMD in
March &
quickly decided Intel was a better bet, still is.

It's an Intel market right now both for CPU & chipsets.

Greg Sevart wrote:


Not to mention that the TLB issue was stupidly overblown by the so-
  

called


enthusiast community. "omg I can't o/c to 47GHz!! MUST BE TLB!!!"

  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Boswell
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:19 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time


On 13 Oct 2008, at 13:09, Steve Tomporowski wrote:



I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem
that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-)
  

the L3 cache errata isn't an issue now, the 9x50 badged parts no
longer have that problem.


-JB




  




  

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Greg Sevart]

Oh, I completely agree--I wouldn't buy an AMD right now either. But my
loyalty is thin. AMD's 45nm Deneb generation chips look to be capable of
clocking fairly high. I at least allow for the possibility that tomorrow may
be different--though I expect Core i7 to eat its lunch. I'm taking a
wait-and-see approach before deciding on the replacement for my superb
3.6GHz Q6600.

I think that some could make the argument that we are now largely in an era
of "good enough" computing, too.


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of maccrawj
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 1:58 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time
> 
> Whatever, it's too little to late from AMD, I looked to build an AMD in
> March &
> quickly decided Intel was a better bet, still is.
> 
> It's an Intel market right now both for CPU & chipsets.
> 
> Greg Sevart wrote:
> > Not to mention that the TLB issue was stupidly overblown by the so-
> called
> > enthusiast community. "omg I can't o/c to 47GHz!! MUST BE TLB!!!"
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Boswell
> >> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:19 AM
> >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> >> Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13 Oct 2008, at 13:09, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
> >>
> >>> I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem
> >>> that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-)
> >> the L3 cache errata isn't an issue now, the 9x50 badged parts no
> >> longer have that problem.
> >>
> >>
> >> -JB
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[maccrawj]

Whatever, it's too little to late from AMD, I looked to build an AMD in March & 
quickly decided Intel was a better bet, still is.


It's an Intel market right now both for CPU & chipsets.

Greg Sevart wrote:

Not to mention that the TLB issue was stupidly overblown by the so-called
enthusiast community. "omg I can't o/c to 47GHz!! MUST BE TLB!!!"


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Boswell
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:19 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time


On 13 Oct 2008, at 13:09, Steve Tomporowski wrote:


I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem
that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-)

the L3 cache errata isn't an issue now, the 9x50 badged parts no
longer have that problem.


-JB

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Greg Sevart]

Not to mention that the TLB issue was stupidly overblown by the so-called
enthusiast community. "omg I can't o/c to 47GHz!! MUST BE TLB!!!"

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Boswell
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:19 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time
> 
> 
> On 13 Oct 2008, at 13:09, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
> 
> > I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem
> > that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-)
> 
> the L3 cache errata isn't an issue now, the 9x50 badged parts no
> longer have that problem.
> 
> 
> -JB

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[James Boswell]

On 13 Oct 2008, at 13:09, Steve Tomporowski wrote:


I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem
that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-)


the L3 cache errata isn't an issue now, the 9x50 badged parts no  
longer have that problem.



-JB

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Steve Tomporowski]

Great Stuff, Raul, pretty much definitive.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Raul Limos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dual Core CPU review:
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-shootout.html
>
> Quad core:
> Core 2 Quad Q9300 vs Q6600:
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300.html
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Steve Tomporowski]

I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem
that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-)

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:50 AM, maccrawj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ROFLMAO over here!
>
> Phenom? No review I've read says anything positive about the Phenom.
>
> Cheaper is rarely better.
>
>
> Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote:
>>
>> AMD's are still great!
>>
>> Get a board with a 790 series North Bridge and a SB750 South Bridge and
>> you are good to go.
>>
>> The Phenom X3's are tremendous value these days! (Tri-Core)
>>
>> The total cost of building a system will be cheaper than an Intel
>> solution.
>>
>> Zulfiqar Naushad
>>
>
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Raul Limos]

Dual Core CPU review:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-shootout.html

Quad core:
Core 2 Quad Q9300 vs Q6600:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300.html

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[maccrawj]

ROFLMAO over here!

Phenom? No review I've read says anything positive about the Phenom.

Cheaper is rarely better.


Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote:

AMD's are still great!

Get a board with a 790 series North Bridge and a SB750 South Bridge and
you are good to go.

The Phenom X3's are tremendous value these days! (Tri-Core)

The total cost of building a system will be cheaper than an Intel
solution.   



Zulfiqar Naushad

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[maccrawj]

1. 2 more cores, they get used fine from what I've seen.
2. with X48, I wouldn't look twice at NV chipsets.
3. ATI, no one will convince me NV cards offer more than ATI.

YM/OHO MV ;)

Steve Tomporowski wrote:

Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
would I expect from Quad?  Anything?

Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?

I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
anything AMD offer worth anything?

Thanks...Steve

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Raul Limos]

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any good place to look for benchmarks?  Trying to find
> something on anandtech is like pulling teeth

If you're contemplating the Phenon X3s,  better check out this article
first:  http://techreport.com/articles.x/14606/1

Another good article at the site:  http://techreport.com/articles.x/14573

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Steve Tomporowski]

Is there any good place to look for benchmarks?  Trying to find
something on anandtech is like pulling teeth

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Depends what the bottleneck is.  If it's something that's using a lot of CPU
> cycles and is multithreaded (meaning the software is written to it can take
> advantage of multiple cores) then it should be great.  But if you're doing
> something like video editing and working with massive file sizes then you
> also have to consider your I/O bandwidth.
>
> Doesn't matter how beefy your CPU is or how many you have if they are
> waiting for you to load a couple TBs from a remote disk.
>
> ---
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Consultant
> Secure World Foundation 
> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> That's actually a good reason for going quad is to be able to get a
>> lot running at the same time and still be snappy.  Which brings to
>> mind what a quad core would do for my music production.  Generally you
>> get limited in the number of software synths running.  If you were
>> running a VST host like Cubase, would the extra cores allow you to
>> load up on the synths?  Interesting question.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > You're right, for the most part nothing common really uses quad cores.
>> > Supreme Commander is the only game I've played recently that does that I
>> can
>> > think of.
>> >
>> > I went with quad because at the time it was essentially the same price as
>> > the dual core and I multitask a lot with some heavy duty programs.  I'm
>> > happy.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Brian Weeden
>> > Technical Consultant
>> > Secure World Foundation 
>> > +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
>> > +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
>> >> upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
>> >> mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
>> >> would I expect from Quad?  Anything?
>> >>
>> >> Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?
>> >>
>> >> I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
>> >> anything AMD offer worth anything?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks...Steve
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT
>> mobo
>> >> and
>> >> > I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core
>> and
>> >> > opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I
>> have
>> >> > ever had.
>> >> >
>> >> > Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have been
>> >> > giving me nothing but problems.
>> >> >
>> >> > -
>> >> > Brian
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> E8500
>> >> >> Asus P5Q mainboard
>> >> >> 4GB of DDR2-800
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That should just about cover it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
>> >> >>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
>> >> >>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
>> >> >>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280
>> right
>> >> >>> now, so that's set.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> What's hot now?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ThanksSteve
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Brian Weeden]

Not sure.  I haven't gone looking for bench marks on CPUs/mobos in a few
years.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Is there any good place to look for benchmarks?  Trying to find
> something on anandtech is like pulling teeth
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Depends what the bottleneck is.  If it's something that's using a lot of
> CPU
> > cycles and is multithreaded (meaning the software is written to it can
> take
> > advantage of multiple cores) then it should be great.  But if you're
> doing
> > something like video editing and working with massive file sizes then you
> > also have to consider your I/O bandwidth.
> >
> > Doesn't matter how beefy your CPU is or how many you have if they are
> > waiting for you to load a couple TBs from a remote disk.
> >
> > ---
> > Brian Weeden
> > Technical Consultant
> > Secure World Foundation 
> > +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> > +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> That's actually a good reason for going quad is to be able to get a
> >> lot running at the same time and still be snappy.  Which brings to
> >> mind what a quad core would do for my music production.  Generally you
> >> get limited in the number of software synths running.  If you were
> >> running a VST host like Cubase, would the extra cores allow you to
> >> load up on the synths?  Interesting question.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > You're right, for the most part nothing common really uses quad cores.
> >> > Supreme Commander is the only game I've played recently that does that
> I
> >> can
> >> > think of.
> >> >
> >> > I went with quad because at the time it was essentially the same price
> as
> >> > the dual core and I multitask a lot with some heavy duty programs.
>  I'm
> >> > happy.
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > Brian Weeden
> >> > Technical Consultant
> >> > Secure World Foundation 
> >> > +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> >> > +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Steve Tomporowski <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
> >> >> upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
> >> >> mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
> >> >> would I expect from Quad?  Anything?
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?
> >> >>
> >> >> I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
> >> >> anything AMD offer worth anything?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks...Steve
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT
> >> mobo
> >> >> and
> >> >> > I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual
> core
> >> and
> >> >> > opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones
> I
> >> have
> >> >> > ever had.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have
> been
> >> >> > giving me nothing but problems.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -
> >> >> > Brian
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> E8500
> >> >> >> Asus P5Q mainboard
> >> >> >> 4GB of DDR2-800
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> That should just about cover it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
> >> >> >>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
> >> >> >>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me
> a
> >> >> >>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280
> >> right
> >> >> >>> now, so that's set.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> What's hot now?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> ThanksSteve
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Brian Weeden]

Depends what the bottleneck is.  If it's something that's using a lot of CPU
cycles and is multithreaded (meaning the software is written to it can take
advantage of multiple cores) then it should be great.  But if you're doing
something like video editing and working with massive file sizes then you
also have to consider your I/O bandwidth.

Doesn't matter how beefy your CPU is or how many you have if they are
waiting for you to load a couple TBs from a remote disk.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> That's actually a good reason for going quad is to be able to get a
> lot running at the same time and still be snappy.  Which brings to
> mind what a quad core would do for my music production.  Generally you
> get limited in the number of software synths running.  If you were
> running a VST host like Cubase, would the extra cores allow you to
> load up on the synths?  Interesting question.
>
> Steve
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > You're right, for the most part nothing common really uses quad cores.
> > Supreme Commander is the only game I've played recently that does that I
> can
> > think of.
> >
> > I went with quad because at the time it was essentially the same price as
> > the dual core and I multitask a lot with some heavy duty programs.  I'm
> > happy.
> >
> > ---
> > Brian Weeden
> > Technical Consultant
> > Secure World Foundation 
> > +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> > +1 (202) 683-8534 US
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
> >> upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
> >> mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
> >> would I expect from Quad?  Anything?
> >>
> >> Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?
> >>
> >> I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
> >> anything AMD offer worth anything?
> >>
> >> Thanks...Steve
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT
> mobo
> >> and
> >> > I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core
> and
> >> > opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I
> have
> >> > ever had.
> >> >
> >> > Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have been
> >> > giving me nothing but problems.
> >> >
> >> > -
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> E8500
> >> >> Asus P5Q mainboard
> >> >> 4GB of DDR2-800
> >> >>
> >> >> That should just about cover it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
> >> >>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
> >> >>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
> >> >>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280
> right
> >> >>> now, so that's set.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> What's hot now?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ThanksSteve
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Steve Tomporowski]

That's actually a good reason for going quad is to be able to get a
lot running at the same time and still be snappy.  Which brings to
mind what a quad core would do for my music production.  Generally you
get limited in the number of software synths running.  If you were
running a VST host like Cubase, would the extra cores allow you to
load up on the synths?  Interesting question.

Steve

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're right, for the most part nothing common really uses quad cores.
> Supreme Commander is the only game I've played recently that does that I can
> think of.
>
> I went with quad because at the time it was essentially the same price as
> the dual core and I multitask a lot with some heavy duty programs.  I'm
> happy.
>
> ---
> Brian Weeden
> Technical Consultant
> Secure World Foundation 
> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
>> upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
>> mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
>> would I expect from Quad?  Anything?
>>
>> Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?
>>
>> I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
>> anything AMD offer worth anything?
>>
>> Thanks...Steve
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT mobo
>> and
>> > I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core and
>> > opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I have
>> > ever had.
>> >
>> > Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have been
>> > giving me nothing but problems.
>> >
>> > -
>> > Brian
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> E8500
>> >> Asus P5Q mainboard
>> >> 4GB of DDR2-800
>> >>
>> >> That should just about cover it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
>> >>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
>> >>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
>> >>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280 right
>> >>> now, so that's set.
>> >>>
>> >>> What's hot now?
>> >>>
>> >>> ThanksSteve
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Brian Weeden]

You're right, for the most part nothing common really uses quad cores.
Supreme Commander is the only game I've played recently that does that I can
think of.

I went with quad because at the time it was essentially the same price as
the dual core and I multitask a lot with some heavy duty programs.  I'm
happy.

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation 
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
> upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
> mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
> would I expect from Quad?  Anything?
>
> Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?
>
> I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
> anything AMD offer worth anything?
>
> Thanks...Steve
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT mobo
> and
> > I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core and
> > opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I have
> > ever had.
> >
> > Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have been
> > giving me nothing but problems.
> >
> > -
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> E8500
> >> Asus P5Q mainboard
> >> 4GB of DDR2-800
> >>
> >> That should just about cover it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
> >>
> >>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
> >>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
> >>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
> >>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280 right
> >>> now, so that's set.
> >>>
> >>> What's hot now?
> >>>
> >>> ThanksSteve
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Naushad, Zulfiqar]

AMD's are still great!

Get a board with a 790 series North Bridge and a SB750 South Bridge and
you are good to go.

The Phenom X3's are tremendous value these days! (Tri-Core)

The total cost of building a system will be cheaper than an Intel
solution.   


Zulfiqar Naushad

Senior IT Consultant 

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Tomporowski
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:25 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time

Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
would I expect from Quad?  Anything?

Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?

I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
anything AMD offer worth anything?

Thanks...Steve

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT
mobo and
> I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core
and
> opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I
have
> ever had.
>
> Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have been
> giving me nothing but problems.
>
> -
> Brian
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>> E8500
>> Asus P5Q mainboard
>> 4GB of DDR2-800
>>
>> That should just about cover it.
>>
>>
>> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
>>
>>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
>>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
>>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
>>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280
right
>>> now, so that's set.
>>>
>>> What's hot now?
>>>
>>> ThanksSteve
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Steve Tomporowski]

Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at.  My previous
upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600,
mainly because not much runs on Quad.  With normal gaming (UT3) what
would I expect from Quad?  Anything?

Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now?

I know the processor/board of choice these days is Intel, does
anything AMD offer worth anything?

Thanks...Steve

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT mobo and
> I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core and
> opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I have
> ever had.
>
> Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have been
> giving me nothing but problems.
>
> -
> Brian
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> E8500
>> Asus P5Q mainboard
>> 4GB of DDR2-800
>>
>> That should just about cover it.
>>
>>
>> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
>>
>>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
>>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
>>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
>>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280 right
>>> now, so that's set.
>>>
>>> What's hot now?
>>>
>>> ThanksSteve
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[Brian Weeden]

I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT mobo and
I'm very happy.  I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core and
opted for the quad.  The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I have
ever had.

Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have been
giving me nothing but problems.

-
Brian


On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, James Boswell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> E8500
> Asus P5Q mainboard
> 4GB of DDR2-800
>
> That should just about cover it.
>
>
> On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
>
>  I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
>> system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
>> looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
>> substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280 right
>> now, so that's set.
>>
>> What's hot now?
>>
>> ThanksSteve
>>
>
>

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

[James Boswell]

E8500
Asus P5Q mainboard
4GB of DDR2-800

That should just about cover it.

On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote:


I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280 right
now, so that's set.

What's hot now?

ThanksSteve

[H] Upgrade Time

[Steve Tomporowski]

I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest'
system.  It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+.  I'm not
looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a
substantial increase in speed for games.  I've got an Nvidia 280 right
now, so that's set.

What's hot now?

ThanksSteve