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Perplexing. -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 5:21 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question correct a while back for grins rebooted, initially started on monitor 2 and when it got to log in it switched to 1. Sticky notes stayed on 2. I am so confused. Thanks fp At 03:03 PM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: >Is your setting to extend the display ? > > > >-Original Message- >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >Behalf Of FORC5 >Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:14 PM >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >Subject: Re: [H] dumb question > >Windows 7 ultimate here, may be the difference when I turn off 1 the >whole desktop moves to 2. I can turn off 2 with nothing jumping. As of >yet I assume will jump back on re boot but have not done that yet. >thanks >fp >At 11:55 AM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: > >I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor > >1 off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number > >two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 > > > >Gary > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On > >Behalf Of FORC5 > >Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM > >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > >Subject: [H] dumb question > > Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** There's more to life than sitting around in the sun in your underwear playing the clarinet. --Woody Allen ***
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correct a while back for grins rebooted, initially started on monitor 2 and when it got to log in it switched to 1. Sticky notes stayed on 2. I am so confused. Thanks fp At 03:03 PM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: Is your setting to extend the display ? -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:14 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question Windows 7 ultimate here, may be the difference when I turn off 1 the whole desktop moves to 2. I can turn off 2 with nothing jumping. As of yet I assume will jump back on re boot but have not done that yet. thanks fp At 11:55 AM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: >I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor 1 >off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number >two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 > >Gary > > >-Original Message- >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >Behalf Of FORC5 >Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >Subject: [H] dumb question > Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** There's more to life than sitting around in the sun in your underwear playing the clarinet. --Woody Allen ***
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Is your setting to extend the display ? -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 3:14 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question Windows 7 ultimate here, may be the difference when I turn off 1 the whole desktop moves to 2. I can turn off 2 with nothing jumping. As of yet I assume will jump back on re boot but have not done that yet. thanks fp At 11:55 AM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: >I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor 1 >off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number >two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 > >Gary > > >-Original Message- >From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On >Behalf Of FORC5 >Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM >To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com >Subject: [H] dumb question > >recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! > >moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn >off number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just >screen saver > >not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. >fp Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** Build a system even a fool can use, and only a fool will use it. ***
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Windows 7 ultimate here, may be the difference when I turn off 1 the whole desktop moves to 2. I can turn off 2 with nothing jumping. As of yet I assume will jump back on re boot but have not done that yet. thanks fp At 11:55 AM 2/3/2015, Gary Jackson Poked the stick with: I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor 1 off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] dumb question recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn off number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just screen saver not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. fp Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** Build a system even a fool can use, and only a fool will use it. ***
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I couldn't work with less than 2 monitors, and there is a good chance I'm moving to three or four soon with the massive IPS price drop coming. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote: > Either disable autodetect in the video driver and/or look into if the > monitor is handling PM (APM? DPMI? where are we these days?) properly. > > Only time I hit the moving thing is if I RDP in which jams my 2 > desktops into 1 & leaves it that when when I disconnect. Come to think > of it I should track down a fences like app to auto-move them back... > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:01 AM, FORC5 wrote: > > recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! > > > > moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn off > > number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just screen > saver > > > > not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. > > fp > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 > > > > ***Caution Tagline Below*** > > **Tallyho** > > *** > > Useless Invention: Camcorder with > > braile-encoded buttons. > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Either disable autodetect in the video driver and/or look into if the monitor is handling PM (APM? DPMI? where are we these days?) properly. Only time I hit the moving thing is if I RDP in which jams my 2 desktops into 1 & leaves it that when when I disconnect. Come to think of it I should track down a fences like app to auto-move them back... On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:01 AM, FORC5 wrote: > recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! > > moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn off > number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just screen saver > > not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. > fp > > > Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 > > ***Caution Tagline Below*** > **Tallyho** > *** > Useless Invention: Camcorder with > braile-encoded buttons. > *** > > > > > > > > > >
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I just tried a test with sticky notes. I both tried turning Monitor 1 off and sleeping the PC but the note stay where I left it on number two. So I am not sure why yours is different. I am on Windows 8.1 Gary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 12:01 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] dumb question recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn off number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just screen saver not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. fp Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** Useless Invention: Camcorder with braile-encoded buttons. ***
[H] dumb question
recently upgraded to a dual monitor setup :-) I LIKE ! moved sticky notes to monitor number two, they move back when I turn off number one OR I let it go to sleep. does not do this with just screen saver not a major deal ATM just wondering if there is a work around for this. fp Date: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2015 ***Caution Tagline Below*** **Tallyho** *** Useless Invention: Camcorder with braile-encoded buttons. ***
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At 09:07 AM 8/23/2013, Greg Sevart Poked the stick with: You cannot run an in-place upgrade from x86 to x64 on any Windows OS. thanks, figured. XP was released 11 years ago. At the time extended support stops, they'll have released 4 new versions (Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1) since XP was first GA. I think that's plenty long (too long) to support a client OS without comparing them to the Borg. If it works why mess with it. Does the job. I like the Borg :-D fp Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get. **
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Hi Eli, Long time-little talk to! Do you have any history for my all-time favorite OS - Windows 2000? I ran mine right up to the day before M$ pulled the plug. A very busy day! LOL! Duncan On 08/23/2013 12:48, Eli Allen wrote: XP had general avalibility in October 25, 2001, so almost 12 years ago now Apple goes all the way back to 10.5 http://www.apple.com/support/mac/ Which was released on 26 October 2007 And redhat only goes back 10 years: (7 years for 3 and 4 unless you pay extra) https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/ On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: You cannot run an in-place upgrade from x86 to x64 on any Windows OS. XP was released 11 years ago. At the time extended support stops, they'll have released 4 new versions (Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1) since XP was first GA. I think that's plenty long (too long) to support a client OS without comparing them to the Borg. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:44 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question I agree completely but for a business customer, built 4 systems, PURCHASED the SW and he is getting WGA messages on two of them. Not had a change to get there and see what is up with that. There are a lot of PPL and businesses I believe will be using XP for a long time to come, I guess as with the Borg and MS resistance is futile ! But it costs money and a lot of ppl do not have a lot a loose change these days. Computers OS's are low priority to most. I am going to suggest to them that now may be a good time to froggy hop to W7. I'll try to explain the security issues to them. Not sure if all their SW is compatible or not. Dread doing 4 clean installs, last time did ONE and cloned the rest and changed the keys and the network ID's, identical HW on all 4. thanks fp At 07:33 AM 8/23/2013, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, should be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing security patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on anything running XP after that. - Brian Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** You can't judge Egypt by Aida. **
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XP had general avalibility in October 25, 2001, so almost 12 years ago now Apple goes all the way back to 10.5 http://www.apple.com/support/mac/ Which was released on 26 October 2007 And redhat only goes back 10 years: (7 years for 3 and 4 unless you pay extra) https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/ On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Greg Sevart wrote: > You cannot run an in-place upgrade from x86 to x64 on any Windows OS. > > XP was released 11 years ago. At the time extended support stops, they'll > have released 4 new versions (Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1) since XP was first GA. > I > think that's plenty long (too long) to support a client OS without > comparing > them to the Borg. > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:44 AM > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] dumb question > > I agree completely but for a business customer, built 4 systems, PURCHASED > the SW and he is getting WGA messages on two of them. Not had a change to > get there and see what is up with that. > There are a lot of PPL and businesses I believe will be using XP for a long > time to come, I guess as with the Borg and MS resistance is futile ! But it > costs money and a lot of ppl do not have a lot a loose change these days. > Computers OS's are low priority to most. > > I am going to suggest to them that now may be a good time to froggy hop to > W7. I'll try to explain the security issues to them. Not sure if all their > SW is compatible or not. Dread doing 4 clean installs, last time did ONE > and > cloned the rest and changed the keys and the network ID's, identical HW on > all 4. > > thanks > fp > > At 07:33 AM 8/23/2013, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: > > >Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, > >should be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing > >security patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on > >anything running XP after that. > > > > > > > >- > >Brian > > Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 > > ***Caution, Tagline Below *** > **Tallyho** > ** >You can't judge Egypt by Aida. > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Greg, Whoa! Let's tone down the rhetoric a bit. I'm sure most everyone codes you as an early-adopter and uber-techie. Fine. Perhaps driven by your profession, whatever. I suppose most of our List fits this label in one way or another. Fine. As I recall our traffic since year 2000: XP - works well, getting old, time to move on. Vista - a bitter pill. Wait for something new. W7 - generally acceptable. W8 - jury is still on the fence. W8.1 - still waiting for comments/discussion! Thanks, Duncan On 08/23/2013 12:07, Greg Sevart wrote: You cannot run an in-place upgrade from x86 to x64 on any Windows OS. XP was released 11 years ago. At the time extended support stops, they'll have released 4 new versions (Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1) since XP was first GA. I think that's plenty long (too long) to support a client OS without comparing them to the Borg. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:44 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question I agree completely but for a business customer, built 4 systems, PURCHASED the SW and he is getting WGA messages on two of them. Not had a change to get there and see what is up with that. There are a lot of PPL and businesses I believe will be using XP for a long time to come, I guess as with the Borg and MS resistance is futile ! But it costs money and a lot of ppl do not have a lot a loose change these days. Computers OS's are low priority to most. I am going to suggest to them that now may be a good time to froggy hop to W7. I'll try to explain the security issues to them. Not sure if all their SW is compatible or not. Dread doing 4 clean installs, last time did ONE and cloned the rest and changed the keys and the network ID's, identical HW on all 4. thanks fp At 07:33 AM 8/23/2013, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, should be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing security patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on anything running XP after that. - Brian Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** You can't judge Egypt by Aida. **
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You cannot run an in-place upgrade from x86 to x64 on any Windows OS. XP was released 11 years ago. At the time extended support stops, they'll have released 4 new versions (Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1) since XP was first GA. I think that's plenty long (too long) to support a client OS without comparing them to the Borg. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:44 AM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] dumb question I agree completely but for a business customer, built 4 systems, PURCHASED the SW and he is getting WGA messages on two of them. Not had a change to get there and see what is up with that. There are a lot of PPL and businesses I believe will be using XP for a long time to come, I guess as with the Borg and MS resistance is futile ! But it costs money and a lot of ppl do not have a lot a loose change these days. Computers OS's are low priority to most. I am going to suggest to them that now may be a good time to froggy hop to W7. I'll try to explain the security issues to them. Not sure if all their SW is compatible or not. Dread doing 4 clean installs, last time did ONE and cloned the rest and changed the keys and the network ID's, identical HW on all 4. thanks fp At 07:33 AM 8/23/2013, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: >Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, >should be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing >security patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on >anything running XP after that. > > > >- >Brian Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** You can't judge Egypt by Aida. **
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Also there is a major shortage of drivers for XP64 bit, it was basically a proof of concept build that got into the wild, pretty much nobody actually bothered to support it. any slightly esoteric hardware (usually printers are the first thing to show it up) and you might as well be running IRIX ;) If you've got hardware that will run it, odds are it'll run Windows 7 perfectly well, I'd be inclined to just bite the bullet on it and get yourself onto something that's got another 7 years of security support coming :) (or just go straight to 8 and run classicstart) On 23 August 2013 15:41, DSinc wrote: > Yeah. Preach to the choir! LOL! > WGA chained one of my PCs yesterday! > Ho-hum.. :) > Duncan > > On 08/23/2013 10:33, Brian Weeden wrote: > >> Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, >> should >> be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing security >> patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on anything running XP >> after that. >> >> >> >> - >> Brian >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:21 AM, FORC5 wrote: >> >> Is it possible to upgrade XP 32 bit with XP 64 bit ? without a clean >>> install. >>> fp >>> >>> >>> Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 >>> >>> ***Caution, Tagline Below *** >>> **Tallyho** >>> ** >>>You can't judge Egypt by Aida. >>> ** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >
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I agree completely but for a business customer, built 4 systems, PURCHASED the SW and he is getting WGA messages on two of them. Not had a change to get there and see what is up with that. There are a lot of PPL and businesses I believe will be using XP for a long time to come, I guess as with the Borg and MS resistance is futile ! But it costs money and a lot of ppl do not have a lot a loose change these days. Computers OS's are low priority to most. I am going to suggest to them that now may be a good time to froggy hop to W7. I'll try to explain the security issues to them. Not sure if all their SW is compatible or not. Dread doing 4 clean installs, last time did ONE and cloned the rest and changed the keys and the network ID's, identical HW on all 4. thanks fp At 07:33 AM 8/23/2013, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, should be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing security patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on anything running XP after that. - Brian Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** You can't judge Egypt by Aida. **
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Yeah. Preach to the choir! LOL! WGA chained one of my PCs yesterday! Ho-hum.. :) Duncan On 08/23/2013 10:33, Brian Weeden wrote: Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, should be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing security patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on anything running XP after that. - Brian On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:21 AM, FORC5 wrote: Is it possible to upgrade XP 32 bit with XP 64 bit ? without a clean install. fp Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** You can't judge Egypt by Aida.
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Don't think so. They are completely different code bases. Besides, should be moving off XP anyways. Next April Microsoft stops issuing security patches for XP forever. It's basically open season on anything running XP after that. - Brian On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:21 AM, FORC5 wrote: > Is it possible to upgrade XP 32 bit with XP 64 bit ? without a clean > install. > fp > > > Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 > >***Caution, Tagline Below *** > **Tallyho** > > You can't judge Egypt by Aida. > > > > > > > > > > > >
[H] dumb question
Is it possible to upgrade XP 32 bit with XP 64 bit ? without a clean install. fp Date: Friday, August 23rd, 2013 ***Caution, Tagline Below *** **Tallyho** ** You can't judge Egypt by Aida. **
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Like Cyanide! Julian Zottl wrote: If I were you, I'd wash them once or twice just to make sure. Silver is fine for our bodies, but god only knows what else was in there. Julian (Sabre)
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You are screwed dude. Fess up. And go foward. Or, just wash all of it again! Problem solved. Best, Duncan At 16:11 08/25/2008 -0400, you wrote: My wife won't let me touch her stuff, so I'll have to confess and get her to do it. This was a real cheap CD-R, so likely was Aluminum and dye. The cheap ones are said to be unstable and very water soluble... (FWIW, I always assumed I'd do this to a flash drive...) Rick Glazier From: "Julian Zottl" If I were you, I'd wash them once or twice just to make sure.
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My wife won't let me touch her stuff, so I'll have to confess and get her to do it. This was a real cheap CD-R, so likely was Aluminum and dye. The cheap ones are said to be unstable and very water soluble... (FWIW, I always assumed I'd do this to a flash drive...) Rick Glazier From: "Julian Zottl" If I were you, I'd wash them once or twice just to make sure.
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If I were you, I'd wash them once or twice just to make sure. Silver is fine for our bodies, but god only knows what else was in there. Julian (Sabre) On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Rick Glazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I washed a pair of cargo jeans with an old damaged CR-R > in one of the side pockets. (Totally lost the coating.) > > It's probally my imagination, but I think it turned the jeans > (light colored ones) slightly green... (At least when wet.) > They look fine dry... > > But it gets worse. > My wife followed me a couple days later washing a couple > nice sweaters. One used to be black, it is now "sparkly" black. > > I'm assuming all those very small flakes of silver coating pieces > are not going to do any harm... > > Any chance I'm wrong? > > Rick Glazier >
[H] Dumb question
I washed a pair of cargo jeans with an old damaged CR-R in one of the side pockets. (Totally lost the coating.) It's probally my imagination, but I think it turned the jeans (light colored ones) slightly green... (At least when wet.) They look fine dry... But it gets worse. My wife followed me a couple days later washing a couple nice sweaters. One used to be black, it is now "sparkly" black. I'm assuming all those very small flakes of silver coating pieces are not going to do any harm... Any chance I'm wrong? Rick Glazier
