Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates
All I've seen for the last week is a lot of whining. In the grand scheme of things, this was a minor blip on the radar. Did this last patch really effect your lives that dramatically? I doubt it. Get over it and move on with your insignificant lives. Could things have gone better? Sure. Are they aware of their mistake? Yes, and dont need you being assholes about it for the last week. Threats of "email box full of gripes for Alfred to come back to"...you seriously need to grow up. The world isnt perfect, the people at Valve have lives that don't revolve around you. Valve makes mistakes, and I'm guessing you've made plenty of your own wherever you work. Do people act like this when you fuck up? I sure as hell hope so, just so you can be on the receiving end of the crap you seem so readilly willing to dish out. Dagok - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates With all due respect sirI'm leaving an email box full of gripes for Alfred to come back to work with so maybe he can affect a change for all of us to not have to deal with this garbage again. Surely you want things to be better than it is now right? Rayne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Valve fucked this one up, so what. This is not an apology for Valve, because they really did fuck things up, but its a sad indicment on the rest of you who were stupid enough to think things would run smoothly a few days out from christmas and with Alfred on holidays. Real professionals expect everybody else to fuck things up and plan accordingly, because they have been there, done that, and bought the t-shirt many times before, amateurs just sit there and cry like a bunch of 12 year old CS players. On 12/26/05, John McCollor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank You!! Valve Software and keep up the good job!! We love your games. May the new year be good for everyone. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: December 25, 2005 1:11 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates I understand the fustrations a lot of you express... I have my fair share as well... but let's look at the facts I work in the industry and a number of you whine and cry over what: Free Maintenance and Upgrades at "NO COST". Recurring revenue is not based on anything "FREE". The people at STEAM make available to you at thier cost the updates, and maintenance to continue to enhance the game, fix it and for what? The hope by providing a better game full of enhancements and fixes to us the loyal parties, we will support future products. Now I could understand the complaining over you paying for maintenace on a yearly period, which by the way is 10 - 23% percent of cost of the application purchase price. But give them a break, they are trying no matter how fustrating it may be to you to do it at thier cost, not at yours. And for those who have never wrote a full application for someone other than yourself, try it sometime and see if you do not get complaints, or request for enhancements, etc. As for those who host a Server for money, Just what are you bitching about having to do some work to earn your money... is beyond me. If you entered this venture of hosting for money to sit on your a$$ and make bucks by turn it on and forget it mode... guess again... You are paid for services to host and update... as required... SO QUIT COMPLAINING about having to do the job you are paided for... If an update comes in... then it is your job or if your contract specifies it is the party who you are providing services to update it... then it is up to them. Last of my rants... I think the people out there who code and develop Plugin's and Admin Mods... hats off to you and people quit bitchin at them as well Again a loyal group of people who supply tools for the game and at a price of FREE. A number of people and I was one... as well bitched and complained over something for FREE... well high time we should stop and just say THANK YOU... to those out there there support our Gaming, Business and care to make it better... This forum has been very informational on subjects, supportive when bugs and a good group of people overall... On that note I will get down off my soap box and wish you all Safe and an Enjoyable Holiday.. - Jim - Original Message - From: "StealthMode" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: [hlds] Re: unannounced updates > In reply to my idea being absurd. That's funny you
Re: [hlds] Console Crashing Hacks
Would this have anything to do with players getting "No Steam Logon" and "Steam ID in use at another location" disconnect messages? I dont knoe if those player actually get these errors, but people still playing see these messages when people get disconnected from a server for no reason. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:51 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Console Crashing Hacks There is a logging bug in the game server right now where steam id's for players very occasionally get mixed up, we are looking into it. However, this mixup CANNOT cause you to be banned, the game server has nothing to do with cheat banning. It is also not possible to Steam a SteamID, you need the Steam account name and password to get access to a Steam ID (with the exception of the above logging bug, but that does not effect ANY other steam services). - Alfred sKel wrote: yea that would kinda suck, have somone steal your steam id, and then get it bannd by vac for cheating... youd be out like 40 or 50 bucks.. man that would make me mad.. lol - Original Message - From: "Stuart Stegall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:20 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Console Crashing Hacks Haven't had so many problems with crashing such as this, but I have had lots and lots of the SteamID stealing, including one my own SteamIDs. Within 2-3 weeks of this, all the SteamIDs were banned. This means that I play competition with a SteamID that I only use for competition play and another SteamID for pubbing. I hope the SteamID stealing problem gets fixed. In all cases I have seen, the servers have been VAC2 enabled. I wonder what the official Valve stance is on the SteamID stealing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [xXx] con Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:50 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Console Crashing Hacks i host for ghostfacekillerclan and they have had their server freeze a couple of times out of nowhere just like you speak of - Original Message - From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Console Crashing Hacks lol.. judgeing by there intro, i wouldn't doubt that its them. - Original Message - From: "Aaron Matthews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: [hlds] Console Crashing Hacks -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I own and operate the LANFusion gaming community. We have 5 source servers, and in the past week have been experiencing many problems with the servers going down. At first I thought it was something to do w/ the admin mods, however, I have traced it to a group of hackers. Basically, one of these guys comes into the servers, and starts using all the normal hacks (walls, aim, you name it). Then, when he knows he's been bagged (or about to be) he starts spamming text or music which tells people "Console hacks activated, press console button to turn on" (or something to that point). This gets people in the server to press the console button, and when they do, their HL2 program freezes. This causes people in the server to time out, and if enough do it, causes the server itself to have a memory read error. Now these people are tricky, because not only can they make the server crash, but they are using other peoples steam ids. The only way I have been able to stop them is by banning the IP address from which they connected. But they just change their IP address and come right back. I searched through my log files for the name and IP and found that one guy had connected from the same IP with about 15 different STEAMIDs. When i searched the steamid's he had, I saw that those steamid's belonged to other people who were in the server at the time. I have no idea how he's masking his actual steamid (or how he's stealing other peoples) but this is a real problem. One of my admins traced one of the guys back to a group called ICT or 'International Coding Team' (* *www.theict.com ). I tried to register on their forums but my account wouldn't activate. I'm not positive if these guys are the actual culprits, however, they are apparently coming out with a ton of hacks. Valve, are you aware of this exploit? Have any of you guys experienced a similar problem on your CS:S servers? If so, do you have any suggestions on how to get around it? Regards, Aaron Matthews #LANFusion | Bugs CEO, LANFusion LLC. http://www.lanfusion.com 69.9.36.4 (40 man, 66 tic) 69.9.36.7 (32 man, 66 tic) 69.9.43.180 (24 man, 100 tic) 69.9.43.181 (24 man, 100 tic) 69.9.43.182 (18 man, 100 tic) -- __
Re: [hlds] Auto Assingn
It is mp_autoteambalance "1"however...the valve method takes a full round to go into effect after the imbalance being detected. If you run Mani Admin or Beattlemod, they have a team balance function that balances the team immediately at the end of each round. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Robert Whelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Auto Assingn been awhile but isnt it mp_autoteambalance "1"? --- Magnus Berglund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'we got some trouble with WTJ's on my CS:S Server (windows) and ETB doesn't seem to be helping. So what I would like to do is to remove the "Counter-Terrorists" and "Terrorists" buttons in the Team Selection Window (so there is only Auto Assign and spectate left). Can somebody tell me how to do this? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] remove custom sprays
note I said "custom spray". Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] remove custom sprays You will still get sprays that are built-in as no cvar rules are broken then, being that no files were sent over the network to handle the action. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok Sent: 16 November 2005 11:19 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] remove custom sprays Strangely enough Ive always had sv_allowdownloads set to 0 (client side), yet every now and then I still can see the occasional custom spray...and my cstrike/downloads folder is empty. Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] remove custom sprays > The sprays are stored in cstrike/downloads on the server, however with > sv_allowupload 0 they will no longer be sent to clients. With > sv_allowdownload 0 they will not be uploaded from the clients to the > servers downloads folder. > > Even with sprays disabled on the server, your client can render the > spray if the spray has already been downloaded. As with the server, > your client stores the sprays in cstrike/downloads. > > I have NEVER changed a net_* cvar, and hopefully never will. This works. > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mebucko >> Sent: 16 November 2005 03:00 >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: [hlds] remove custom sprays >> >> -- >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have had problems >> in the past with players spraying porn around on the server. Now it >> has taken a turn for the worse and instead of tracking down players >> and kicking/banning I would like to disable the spray logos all >> together. I know the command sv_allowupload should take care of the >> problem, but players can still spray images previously uploaded. >> Where are the uploaded images stored, so I can delete them? >> >> The server is HL2DM. >> >> Thanks >> Mebucko >> -- >> Content-Description: "AVG certification" >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.1/169 - Release >> Date: 11/15/2005 >> -- >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] remove custom sprays
I meant cl_, which was obvious since I said my downloads folder was emptyit wouldnt be empty if I used sv_ Dagok - Original Message - From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] remove custom sprays thats because sv_allowdownload is a server setting, not a client setting. the client setting is cl_allowdownload. - Original Message ----- From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] remove custom sprays Strangely enough Ive always had sv_allowdownloads set to 0 (client side), yet every now and then I still can see the occasional custom spray...and my cstrike/downloads folder is empty. Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] remove custom sprays The sprays are stored in cstrike/downloads on the server, however with sv_allowupload 0 they will no longer be sent to clients. With sv_allowdownload 0 they will not be uploaded from the clients to the servers downloads folder. Even with sprays disabled on the server, your client can render the spray if the spray has already been downloaded. As with the server, your client stores the sprays in cstrike/downloads. I have NEVER changed a net_* cvar, and hopefully never will. This works. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mebucko Sent: 16 November 2005 03:00 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] remove custom sprays -- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have had problems in the past with players spraying porn around on the server. Now it has taken a turn for the worse and instead of tracking down players and kicking/banning I would like to disable the spray logos all together. I know the command sv_allowupload should take care of the problem, but players can still spray images previously uploaded. Where are the uploaded images stored, so I can delete them? The server is HL2DM. Thanks Mebucko -- Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.1/169 - Release Date: 11/15/2005 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] remove custom sprays
Strangely enough Ive always had sv_allowdownloads set to 0 (client side), yet every now and then I still can see the occasional custom spray...and my cstrike/downloads folder is empty. Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] remove custom sprays The sprays are stored in cstrike/downloads on the server, however with sv_allowupload 0 they will no longer be sent to clients. With sv_allowdownload 0 they will not be uploaded from the clients to the servers downloads folder. Even with sprays disabled on the server, your client can render the spray if the spray has already been downloaded. As with the server, your client stores the sprays in cstrike/downloads. I have NEVER changed a net_* cvar, and hopefully never will. This works. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mebucko Sent: 16 November 2005 03:00 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] remove custom sprays -- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have had problems in the past with players spraying porn around on the server. Now it has taken a turn for the worse and instead of tracking down players and kicking/banning I would like to disable the spray logos all together. I know the command sv_allowupload should take care of the problem, but players can still spray images previously uploaded. Where are the uploaded images stored, so I can delete them? The server is HL2DM. Thanks Mebucko -- Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.1/169 - Release Date: 11/15/2005 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] What happened to the pre-announce and announcement of patches?
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey Alfred, What happened to the Pre-Announcement of upcoming Steam patches and then the Announcement of the actual patches? Ive noticed as of late that these announcements have not been being made. I for one, and I'm sure plenty of other admins, rely on these announcements since we do not sit around refreshing www.steampowered.com or restarting Steam to see if a patch has been released. Would be appreciated if we can go back to getting advance notice and then the announement of these patches. thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] question for alfred
Hey Sprout maybe you are hard of reading, but I already posted this once for you, but I will do it again since you obviously can't read and want to mouth off to Valve due to your ineptness. From the News Update you originally refered tothe estimate you wanted is "a few weeks". " The map should be ready to go in a few weeks, and the new player models will show up shortly after Nuke is made available. " Dagok - Original Message - From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] question for alfred gotta love the usefulness of this list for server admins u ask a question and can't even get a estimate. oh well enjoy - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] question for alfred -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Which is soon :) On 11/7/05, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When its ready. Whisper wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Soon! :) > > On 11/6/05, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> I finally restarted my desktop today and steam client popped up >> talking about some pretty major update 2 maps and different models. >> Any idea on when this is going to happen? this week this month this >> year? *confused* Just wondering -- >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] question for alfred
See I thought it was pretty obvious when the news update said: " The map should be ready to go in a few weeks, and the new player models will show up shortly after Nuke is made available. " Dagok - Original Message - From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] question for alfred see I thought that was pretty obvious - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] question for alfred -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Soon! :) On 11/6/05, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I finally restarted my desktop today and steam client popped up talking about some pretty major update 2 maps and different models. Any idea on when this is going to happen? this week this month this year? *confused* Just wondering -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release Date: 11/3/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT
Thanks for the suggestion, it seems to have worked. Your additional attitude was not required or welcome though. I am a server admin, and I have helped when I can on these mailing lists. So people like you and Eric can shove it up your elitist asses when it comes to telling people to not use the mailing lists for help, even if it happens to be a simple question that may not be directly related to a Linux or Win server. I've seen far worse off topic discussions here that go on for days unchecked. So when 1 person (a server admin no less) asks for a little help you may want to consider biting your tongue instead of being a jerkoff. Dagok - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT Please take this to the Steampowered.com Forums or please list [OT] in the subject. On your way check the settings of your Steam client and turn the speed down in there. That is suppose to directly control how many servers it queries at a time when you refresh. Rayne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:47 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list Wouldnt worry about it? I cant get server lists if I lose connection everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is connected to the net. I consider this a big problem. And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom maps to play. So I really doubt its the router. Dagok - Original Message - From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i don't see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os. and i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't worry about it too much though... sKel - Original Message - From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app "feature" ? Home or Pro? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser. If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game. This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is on, and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server. Any help would be appreciated. Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valve
Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
Wouldnt worry about it? I cant get server lists if I lose connection everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is connected to the net. I consider this a big problem. And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom maps to play. So I really doubt its the router. Dagok - Original Message - From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i don't see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os. and i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't worry about it too much though... sKel - Original Message - From: "Napier, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app "feature" ? Home or Pro? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser. If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game. This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is on, and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server. Any help would be appreciated. Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
It's a D-Link router, and I havent had a problem with any other applications, games or server browsers. Dagok - Original Message - From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list its probly just your internet connection.. when it loads up that massive list of servers, it creates a bottleneck, so other things lose connection temporarily. that would be my first guess.. cuz like a firewall wouldn't do something like that.. my guess is either your internet connection, or you just have a junkie router or something. sKel - Original Message - From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser. If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game. This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is on, and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server. Any help would be appreciated. Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser. If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game. This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is on, and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server. Any help would be appreciated. Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] HudMsg's
Nothing to see anyways. It opens to a reply window for the forum with someones reply to a post, but you can't see the original post...so who knows. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] HudMsg's I can't view that post, it wants a username and login... Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolvie Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:22 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] HudMsg's This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Check this out...Valve I hope this isn't true and if so please re-enable it http://www.sourcemod.net/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&p=27048 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Enforcing Cvars
Yea, and that occurs everytime someone connects...which on a popular server, is alot. I'd rather it be silent and only announce players that failed the check. Dagok - Original Message - From: "#Rtb.uk | N*E*R*D*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Enforcing Cvars Well for use on our clan server, it simply checks the player on connection and sends 1 console message of "Authenticated" or not. -- -#Rtb.uk | N*E*R*D* #Rtb.css | #Rtb.cod Dagok wrote: I tried CSP back when it was first released and removed it with the hour because of the chat spam. Have they given an option for it to run silent yet? If not, then Im not interested. Dagok - Original Message - From: "#Rtb.uk | N*E*R*D*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Enforcing Cvars Euro CSP 1.1 Check it out here: http://eurocss.net/eurocsp-11-released/ This locks certain client cvars. -- -#Rtb.uk | N*E*R*D* #Rtb.css | #Rtb.cod Saint K. wrote: Unfortunatly HLguards cvar enforcement can be undone pretty easy on the client side :/ - Original Message - From: "Mike Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Enforcing Cvars -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm pretty sure HLGuard enforces cvars on clients. On top of it, config files are writable so you can enforce whatever you like. On 10/27/05, SephirotH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Everyone, I would like to know if there is a Mod or something that can enforce Cvars on the clients. Thanks, SephirotH ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- --- Mike "DaiTengu" Miller Serverwiki Founder http://www.serverwiki.org H^2 | http://www.daitengu.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/149 - Release Date: 10/25/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Enforcing Cvars
I tried CSP back when it was first released and removed it with the hour because of the chat spam. Have they given an option for it to run silent yet? If not, then Im not interested. Dagok - Original Message - From: "#Rtb.uk | N*E*R*D*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Enforcing Cvars Euro CSP 1.1 Check it out here: http://eurocss.net/eurocsp-11-released/ This locks certain client cvars. -- -#Rtb.uk | N*E*R*D* #Rtb.css | #Rtb.cod Saint K. wrote: Unfortunatly HLguards cvar enforcement can be undone pretty easy on the client side :/ - Original Message - From: "Mike Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Enforcing Cvars -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm pretty sure HLGuard enforces cvars on clients. On top of it, config files are writable so you can enforce whatever you like. On 10/27/05, SephirotH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Everyone, I would like to know if there is a Mod or something that can enforce Cvars on the clients. Thanks, SephirotH ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- --- Mike "DaiTengu" Miller Serverwiki Founder http://www.serverwiki.org H^2 | http://www.daitengu.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/149 - Release Date: 10/25/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately?
James, no offense, but stop trying to help. All you did was just reiterate what I just said about quote_mode fill. You are telling me nothing I don't already know and have not addressed the problem that I outlined in the first email. The bots are auto filling, the bots are auto vacating. The problem is bots are just waiting until the round is over to auto vacate instead of doing it immediately like they used to. Thus the round is completing and being counted towards the mp_winlimit instead of starting the rounds over when human players join. Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately? I seem to remember auto vacate 1 was causing me crashes on map change at times, as such I've not touched that cvar since. Bot_quota_mode fill will add bots up to the number of players specified by bot_quota. When a human joins a team, a bot will automatically vacate, until there are bot_quota human players or more. It sounds like you want to have bots there until a human joins a team, at which point you want all bots to disappear, this is more like bot_quota 1 & bot_quota_mode fill; only with more bots? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok Sent: 18 October 2005 19:31 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately? No, I already have bot_quota_mode fill set and always have, and is the direct opposite of auto vacate. It tells the bots to fill the server when a player leaves. Let me be clear here. I went away for 2 months, came back and it was doing this, possibly only after the last CSS patch. Nobody has changed the bots.cfg file. Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately? I think what you are looking for is "bot_quota_mode fill" On 10/18/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Source. - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately? > Source or HL? > > On 10/18/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This has been occuring for awhile now, I just hadn't bothered to >> look into it ye. >> >> Anyone know why the bots are not auto vacating immediately when a >> player joins a team? >> >> I have bot_auto_vacate 1 set, but the bots wait until the end of >> the round before leaving. This is especially annoying when the >> map changes, and people have to wait for the bots to finish the >> first round before getting to play. Furthermore, this round is >> counting towards the mp_winlimit. >> >> It never used to do this. When a player joined a team a bot >> would vacate and the rounds would restart. Why doesnt this occur >> anymore? >> >> thanks, >> Dagok >> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately?
No, I already have bot_quota_mode fill set and always have, and is the direct opposite of auto vacate. It tells the bots to fill the server when a player leaves. Let me be clear here. I went away for 2 months, came back and it was doing this, possibly only after the last CSS patch. Nobody has changed the bots.cfg file. Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately? I think what you are looking for is "bot_quota_mode fill" On 10/18/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Source. - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately? > Source or HL? > > On 10/18/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This has been occuring for awhile now, I just hadn't bothered to look >> into >> it ye. >> >> Anyone know why the bots are not auto vacating immediately when a >> player >> joins a team? >> >> I have bot_auto_vacate 1 set, but the bots wait until the end of the >> round >> before leaving. This is especially annoying when the map changes, and >> people have to wait for the bots to finish the first round before >> getting >> to >> play. Furthermore, this round is counting towards the mp_winlimit. >> >> It never used to do this. When a player joined a team a bot would >> vacate >> and the rounds would restart. Why doesnt this occur anymore? >> >> thanks, >> Dagok >> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately?
Source. - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots not vacating immediately? Source or HL? On 10/18/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This has been occuring for awhile now, I just hadn't bothered to look into it ye. Anyone know why the bots are not auto vacating immediately when a player joins a team? I have bot_auto_vacate 1 set, but the bots wait until the end of the round before leaving. This is especially annoying when the map changes, and people have to wait for the bots to finish the first round before getting to play. Furthermore, this round is counting towards the mp_winlimit. It never used to do this. When a player joined a team a bot would vacate and the rounds would restart. Why doesnt this occur anymore? thanks, Dagok ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Bots not vacating immediately?
This has been occuring for awhile now, I just hadn't bothered to look into it ye. Anyone know why the bots are not auto vacating immediately when a player joins a team? I have bot_auto_vacate 1 set, but the bots wait until the end of the round before leaving. This is especially annoying when the map changes, and people have to wait for the bots to finish the first round before getting to play. Furthermore, this round is counting towards the mp_winlimit. It never used to do this. When a player joined a team a bot would vacate and the rounds would restart. Why doesnt this occur anymore? thanks, Dagok ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] No splash video variable?
Anyone know of a variable that can be used to prevent the Valve splash screens from coming up everytime I start DoD Source? ie: -nosplash or something? thanks. Dagok ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
And if you read anyones replies to this thread...you'd have figured out that you are wrong. Hell it was just posted last night that mp_autokick 1 = 60secs, 2 = 120secs, 3 = 180secs, etc. It does not work in conjunction with sv_timeout. Dagok - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] And I'm trying to tell you that based on experimentation it is working in conjunction with mp_autokick. --Ozz -- Original message -- I didnt distort anything. I said the same thing as the what the cvar list says, I just said it in my own words. If it is reverting back to 65 after a map change, fine, it's a bug...I was saying it has nothing to do with mp_autokick and it still has nothing to do with mp_autokick. Two different functions for 2 different purposes. sv_timeout is not based on keyboard strokes or movement input. It's based on a net connection to that player. If you turned off mp_autokick, the player could sit there afk all night long as long as their net connection continues to send packaets to the server. But if that connection stops sending packets to the server, this is when sv_timeout would kick in and drop the player after the specified amount of time. Dagok - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You guys are distorting the definition for sv_timeout. Quoting the DoD client cvar list (which includes server for obvious reasons) it states: sv_timout, "65" <--- default, "After this many seconds without a message from the client, the client is dropped" I have experimented with what a 'message' is as a client, especially when trying to do something while idle on a server. As long as I crouched or shot my gun or jumped in the air every so often, i didn't get kicked. If I tried something like a voice_command bind, I got dropped. Having experimented with the sv_timeout on Monday the 26th (everyone was trying to adjust their video settings to gain fps, resulting in that repetitive pause for 60+ seconds sometimes), I feel confident that like Ricardo says, the sv_timeout value reverts back to the default after the map change, because I had extended the value via RCON ingame, and for that map only, people weren't dropping like flies. Try my aforementioned fix (previous email) and see if it works. --Ozz -- Original message -- > It shouldnt be related to sv_timeout and isnt supposed to be. > > sv_timeout is for when the server loses connection with that > player...after > the specified amount of time the server will drop that player. > > mp_autokick is to kick players that dont give any keystroke or mouse > input > after a certain amount of time. I believe it's supposed to be 10 or > 15min. > > Dagok > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ricardo Mota" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:40 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just > 50secs > idle > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > i think it's related to the sv_timeout. > > > > I mean, the autokick strikes after the time stated on sv_timeout is > > reached. > > it is, by default, 65 seconds, i believe. Problem i'm having is that > > i > > can't > > seem to be able to CHANGE the sv_timeout!!! I mean, i've chenged it > > to > > 180 > > on my configs and updated them, but it works on the first map after > > the > > server starts but is then changed back to the default value after a > > map > > change. Can anyone help with that? > > > > On 10/6/05, Suck. wrote: > >> > >> Heh, we turned it off partially because it's so short that it was > >> sometimes > >> kicking a machine gunner or sniper sitting in a good position while > >> waiting > >> for a target. =P > >> > >> > >> -Grant. > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Dagok > >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:16 PM > >> Subject: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just > >> 50secs > >> idle > >> > >> Alfred, can you please pass this along to the appropriate people? > >> > >> Only in DoD Source (CSS is fine), mp_autokick 1 is dropping players > >> that > >> are > >>
Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
In CSS, It's 10 or 15min with mp_autokick 1. I tested it last week just to see if it was kicking after 1min and it wasn't, but I havent tested the full duration. However, I havent tested since the minor Source Engine patch the other day. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Yup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I didn't know about this either. Thanks for the confirmation. One question; you say the CS:S way. What way is that? The way we thought all along? ie. mp_autokick 1 and the idle time can't be modified? On 10/6/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Awesome, just tested it with the setting of 5 (for 5min) and dropped me after exactly 5min. Wish the programmer that made the change told someone when they changed this...obviously Alfred didn't know or he woulda told us. So now we have 2 ways mp_autokick works...the DoD way and the CSS way. Can we get this changed in CSS please Alfred? And what is the max value? thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "CAIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle > mp_autokick 1 gives you ~60 seconds before the client is kicked for > inactivty. > > mp_autokick 2 gives you ~120 seconds before the client is kicked for > inactivity. > > mp_autokick 3 gives you ~180 seconds, and so forth. > > Try it, it seems to work for me. > > -- Cain > > > > > > __ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
Awesome, just tested it with the setting of 5 (for 5min) and dropped me after exactly 5min. Wish the programmer that made the change told someone when they changed this...obviously Alfred didn't know or he woulda told us. So now we have 2 ways mp_autokick works...the DoD way and the CSS way. Can we get this changed in CSS please Alfred? And what is the max value? thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "CAIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle mp_autokick 1 gives you ~60 seconds before the client is kicked for inactivty. mp_autokick 2 gives you ~120 seconds before the client is kicked for inactivity. mp_autokick 3 gives you ~180 seconds, and so forth. Try it, it seems to work for me. -- Cain __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
I didnt distort anything. I said the same thing as the what the cvar list says, I just said it in my own words. If it is reverting back to 65 after a map change, fine, it's a bug...I was saying it has nothing to do with mp_autokick and it still has nothing to do with mp_autokick. Two different functions for 2 different purposes. sv_timeout is not based on keyboard strokes or movement input. It's based on a net connection to that player. If you turned off mp_autokick, the player could sit there afk all night long as long as their net connection continues to send packaets to the server. But if that connection stops sending packets to the server, this is when sv_timeout would kick in and drop the player after the specified amount of time. Dagok - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You guys are distorting the definition for sv_timeout. Quoting the DoD client cvar list (which includes server for obvious reasons) it states: sv_timout, "65" <--- default, "After this many seconds without a message from the client, the client is dropped" I have experimented with what a 'message' is as a client, especially when trying to do something while idle on a server. As long as I crouched or shot my gun or jumped in the air every so often, i didn't get kicked. If I tried something like a voice_command bind, I got dropped. Having experimented with the sv_timeout on Monday the 26th (everyone was trying to adjust their video settings to gain fps, resulting in that repetitive pause for 60+ seconds sometimes), I feel confident that like Ricardo says, the sv_timeout value reverts back to the default after the map change, because I had extended the value via RCON ingame, and for that map only, people weren't dropping like flies. Try my aforementioned fix (previous email) and see if it works. --Ozz -- Original message -- It shouldnt be related to sv_timeout and isnt supposed to be. sv_timeout is for when the server loses connection with that player...after the specified amount of time the server will drop that player. mp_autokick is to kick players that dont give any keystroke or mouse input after a certain amount of time. I believe it's supposed to be 10 or 15min. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Mota" To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > i think it's related to the sv_timeout. > > I mean, the autokick strikes after the time stated on sv_timeout is > reached. > it is, by default, 65 seconds, i believe. Problem i'm having is that i > can't > seem to be able to CHANGE the sv_timeout!!! I mean, i've chenged it to > 180 > on my configs and updated them, but it works on the first map after the > server starts but is then changed back to the default value after a map > change. Can anyone help with that? > > On 10/6/05, Suck. wrote: >> >> Heh, we turned it off partially because it's so short that it was >> sometimes >> kicking a machine gunner or sniper sitting in a good position while >> waiting >> for a target. =P >> >> >> -Grant. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dagok >> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:16 PM >> Subject: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just >> 50secs >> idle >> >> Alfred, can you please pass this along to the appropriate people? >> >> Only in DoD Source (CSS is fine), mp_autokick 1 is dropping players >> that >> are >> only idle for 50 seconds. >> >> thanks, >> Dagok >> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > -- > Ricardo Mota > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
Sorry, but what does this have to do with autokick? Start your own topic and don't derail this one. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Aaron L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle Hey all. I've ran multiple servers with multiple game servers for years now, I've always either used win2000 or XP on all my p4 machines. I've recently purchased four 3.0 dual xeon servers 2MB cache and am going back and fourth on what OS to use. Any suggestions? I'm going between XP and 2003 Server. I mainly run valve dedicated servers. But also do other multiplayer games, I'm also hosting BF2. I just wanted to see if 2003 Server would maximize the amount of game servers on one box? I have plenty of resources on my network for bw so that's not an issue. Each machine has 3GB of ram. With 10k RPM drives. Please if you have any experience with this subject or have any benchmarks with your xeon machines using different OSs I would be greatly appreciative. How many game servers are current owners of dual xeon 3.0s currently running? Thank guys for all the great feedback that goes through this list. Aaron Nodramaclan.com DarkRecon Game Servers ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
It shouldnt be related to sv_timeout and isnt supposed to be. sv_timeout is for when the server loses connection with that player...after the specified amount of time the server will drop that player. mp_autokick is to kick players that dont give any keystroke or mouse input after a certain amount of time. I believe it's supposed to be 10 or 15min. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Mota" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] i think it's related to the sv_timeout. I mean, the autokick strikes after the time stated on sv_timeout is reached. it is, by default, 65 seconds, i believe. Problem i'm having is that i can't seem to be able to CHANGE the sv_timeout!!! I mean, i've chenged it to 180 on my configs and updated them, but it works on the first map after the server starts but is then changed back to the default value after a map change. Can anyone help with that? On 10/6/05, Suck. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heh, we turned it off partially because it's so short that it was sometimes kicking a machine gunner or sniper sitting in a good position while waiting for a target. =P -Grant. -Original Message- From: Dagok Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:16 PM Subject: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle Alfred, can you please pass this along to the appropriate people? Only in DoD Source (CSS is fine), mp_autokick 1 is dropping players that are only idle for 50 seconds. thanks, Dagok ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Ricardo Mota [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Various issues with DoD:S
Alfred, at least give admins the option of using mp_fadetoblack with DoDs. As I understand it, this cvar doesnt work in DoDs (haven't checked myself), and would be a decent alternative to the default camera behavior. thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:04 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Various issues with DoD:S The camera behavior after death is by design (we spent a while bouncing back and forwards with that). CPU usage is what it is, we are looking into optimisations but there isn't any low hanging fruit. I will ask about team wounding, I don't remember ever talking about the logging strategy for it. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:59 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Various issues with DoD:S I'll keep it short 'n sweet: 1) CPU usage - DoD:S, at default settings, is a CPU hog... at least on the Linux platform. Other admins I have discussed this with that run this on win2000/w2k3 also agree. With the number of players and the tickrate being equal (66), DoD:S uses about double the amount of CPU as CS:S does. However, I have talked to one admin who says setting the sv_turbophysics cvar to zero brings CPU usage down to normal levels. He says leaving the cvar set to one lets players actually knock over objects as opposed to bouncing off of them (e.g. a barrel). I noticed that CS:S also has the cvar now, but by default is set to zero. I'd like some official clarification on this setting, and what kind of CPU usage we should expect leaving it on vs. leaving it off, and if the number of movable objects on a map makes a difference. 2) Team wounding reporting - with CS:S, if a player wounds a teammate, the rest of the team sees notification of it. In DoD:S this is missing. 3) I noticed mp_forcecamera defaults to one, which is a good thing for this type of game. However, when you die, for the 3-4 seconds before you respawn, the in-game camera points directly to the player that killed you, and tracks their movements. If you're a sniper, this pretty much gives away your position to the other team (granted you shouldn't stay in the same spot for more than a few seconds anyways, but that's moot). Several of my playerbase have noticed this and have been asking my admin staff to turn it off - and of course we cant. If the CPL ever pulls their collective heads out of their ass and host DoD:S at one of their next big tournaments, this is going to be a problem. It kinda already is... would like to see a cvar to allow admins to enable/disable this behavior at the very least. That's all I have for now, hope to see some feedback on this list (hi Alfred ;-) ). Thx for your time. - K2 http://www.hardfought.org ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
Thanks for that smart-ass. We use weapon class limits on our server. With autokick off, people go AFK indefinitely, blocking others from using those weapon classes. Dagok - Original Message - From: "emtpy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle Dagok wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alfred, can you please pass this along to the appropriate people? Only in DoD Source (CSS is fine), mp_autokick 1 is dropping players that are only idle for 50 seconds. thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds THEN TURN IT OFF! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] DoDs mp_autokick 1 is dropping players after just 50secs idle
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alfred, can you please pass this along to the appropriate people? Only in DoD Source (CSS is fine), mp_autokick 1 is dropping players that are only idle for 50 seconds. thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots
If nothing more, it gives people sitting on empty servers, waiting for more players to join, something to kill in the meantime. Also gives people without internet connections something to do. And there are times when people may have their computer and not have internet, ie: travelling or their ISP is down. - Original Message - From: "Dan Stevens (IAmAI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Personally, I don't see the point of bots; human players are always more fun to play against. This is judging by Counter-Strike: Source bots. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots
How would making sniping require some actual skill be making the game worse? - Original Message - From: "Lee Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots sigh @ floating crosshairs, enough people dislike the game (css) already. Don't make it worse :) - Original Message - From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 30 September, 2005 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots I guess this means, no comment. - Original Message - From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots Alfred, now that DoD Source is out... What timeframe can we expect the some other maps for DoDs to be completed? 2 or 3 weeks, or months? dod_caen please :) It was said Lost Coast would come out after DoD Source...it must be close to being completed, if not completed. When can we expect it? From August 5th Steam News Update " we're expecting to have Lost Coast ready in a couple of weeks. " Will we see any of the new features added to CSS? ie: The awesome sound system used in DoDs, and HDR? And not really a new feature, but something that has long been requested...floating crosshairs for the sniper rifles in CSS, like the ones in DoDs? Force snipers to finally have some skill other than point and click. Also in the August 5th Steam News Update the SAS models were stated as almost being ready...and what ever happened to de_nuke and cs_militia? thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots No idea. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uncanny Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:02 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots So Alfred, Are we going to see any BOT support for DOD:Source? TBD, No, "Wait for it..."? Just wondering. Thanks. Uncanny ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots
I guess this means, no comment. - Original Message - From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots Alfred, now that DoD Source is out... What timeframe can we expect the some other maps for DoDs to be completed? 2 or 3 weeks, or months? dod_caen please :) It was said Lost Coast would come out after DoD Source...it must be close to being completed, if not completed. When can we expect it? From August 5th Steam News Update " we're expecting to have Lost Coast ready in a couple of weeks. " Will we see any of the new features added to CSS? ie: The awesome sound system used in DoDs, and HDR? And not really a new feature, but something that has long been requested...floating crosshairs for the sniper rifles in CSS, like the ones in DoDs? Force snipers to finally have some skill other than point and click. Also in the August 5th Steam News Update the SAS models were stated as almost being ready...and what ever happened to de_nuke and cs_militia? thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots No idea. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uncanny Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:02 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots So Alfred, Are we going to see any BOT support for DOD:Source? TBD, No, "Wait for it..."? Just wondering. Thanks. Uncanny ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots
Alfred, now that DoD Source is out... What timeframe can we expect the some other maps for DoDs to be completed? 2 or 3 weeks, or months? dod_caen please :) It was said Lost Coast would come out after DoD Source...it must be close to being completed, if not completed. When can we expect it? From August 5th Steam News Update " we're expecting to have Lost Coast ready in a couple of weeks. " Will we see any of the new features added to CSS? ie: The awesome sound system used in DoDs, and HDR? And not really a new feature, but something that has long been requested...floating crosshairs for the sniper rifles in CSS, like the ones in DoDs? Force snipers to finally have some skill other than point and click. Also in the August 5th Steam News Update the SAS models were stated as almost being ready...and what ever happened to de_nuke and cs_militia? thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots No idea. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uncanny Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:02 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] DOD:Source Bots So Alfred, Are we going to see any BOT support for DOD:Source? TBD, No, "Wait for it..."? Just wondering. Thanks. Uncanny ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] cs:s is full of cheaters
Prior to VAC2 beta I saw tons of cheaters...and banned lots too. Since then I havent seen any...well the odd one or two, but they are using hlh and Mani Plugin takes care of them pretty quick. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Brian M Frain (eternal)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] cs:s is full of cheaters -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] One of the biggest problems I ran into as a lead admin for a gaming company was the admins themselves. Any time a player came in showing any amount of exceptional skill it was decided he must be cheating. This was despite having multiple anti cheat measures I spent hours researching and updating constantly. Then one day the admins started complaining that there was no longer a challenge on the server, I replied "that is because anytime someone comes in better than you guys they get banned" needless to say that practice stopped. Now, I am not saying that is the case here or in the big cs:s picture but I think it merits some thought. Since this mailing list is really for servers and help with servers (and this thread doesn't belong here) I will post some relevant content. Steambans: plug in for source/non servers, compares players steam ids to a global database of cheaters and bans if player is in the database. Requires no work by admins other than installation. http://www.steambans.com/ Autoban: another automated server plug in, it has anti wallhack and anti antiflash features as well as an aimbot tracking tool. Be warned some people have issues with this and it is in beta. * Bans right away, no manual intervention necessary * Server-side only plugin, nothing to run or install on the client * Aimbot detection * Wallhacking prevention * Speedhack detection * No-recoil and low-recoil detection * No-spread and low-spread detection * No-flash prevention * Completely configurable http://www.wravens-nest.com/ Vac2: we know what this is. Beetlesmod: I am not sure that the anti cheat portion of the server plug in is even updated anymore but it will at least catch people who get the older versions and can't hurt. http://www.beetlesmod.com/forums/ If anyone knows of any other anti-cheat tools for source I would love to hear about them. Maybe we have to react to the cheaters and as such it may seem as if they are winning, but don't lay down and die for them! On 9/29/05, Dan Stevens (IAmAI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I've being playing CS:S pretty much since it was released, and I've rarely ever seen cheats. Perhaps I never notice them or may as an admin they're easier to spot (I'm only a player). -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Random Kicking, but not for me
have you checked: the various autokick and tk protection options in the server.cfg and mani_admin.cfg? Also disable antiidle as it seemed to be a bit short when I first started up the DoD Source server. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Zachary Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:15 PM Subject: [hlds] Random Kicking, but not for me -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On my listen server(sorry ded server guys, but I need help) everyone gets kicked after about 1 minute of playing. It tells me that "Client Disconnected" I'm not kicking them and I'm the only admin logged in. This is on my CS:S, CS:CZ, HL2DM, and CS servers. All of which use AMXX or Mani Admin Plugin. Is there something that I'm doing wrong? Everything is default except sv_lan which is set to 0 always. This also happens in Garry's Mod. -- Sincerely, Zachary Doherty -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: DoD:D Server Files?
mp_winlimit does not end the game based on flag captures. It ends the game based on ROUNDS won. Maybe that is what you meant by "full caps", but I've seen alot of people saying it's flag captures, which it isnt. I have my server set to 7 round wins, or 45min, whichever comes first. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Matt Boone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:26 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: DoD:D Server Files? Mp_winlimit X will trigger the game to end if either team reaches X full caps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john-paul richards Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:17 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: DoD:D Server Files? can some1 tell me what is the cavar command 2 set the win limit 2 50 points or 100 points so then the map will change plz plz From: LDuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: DoD:D Server Files? Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:48:18 -0600 -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Especially check out the mp_, dod_, and sv_ cvars. On 9/27/05, sKel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > someone posted this a little earlier... > http://www.hardfought.org/files/dod_cvars.txt > > > - Original Message - > From: "Wolvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:30 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: DoD:D Server Files? > > > > Anybody have a list of rcon cmd's for DOD Source or a link to a > > site that has them? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rafael Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:59 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: [hlds] Re: DoD:D Server Files? > > > > I think we ALL deserve a planned release date for server DoD:S files. > > It is insane to think that people who run more than one server > > will be able to do all of this in like a snap. > > > > We needed mroe time thanyou're giving us, and if we dont get them > > soon, no clients will be able to play. > > > > Please? > > > > -- > > Rafael > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ MSN Messenger 7.5 is now out. Download it for FREE here. http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Complete dod:s cvarlist
Thats great and all, but personally (and I think others too) are curious as to what the new cvars are specific to DoDs and what they do ie: mp_warmup_time seems to do nothing, or at least does not seem to do what the description would indicate. Dagok - Original Message - From: "K2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:28 AM Subject: [hlds] Complete dod:s cvarlist Here ya go folks... Easy enough to get, but this will help those out that aren't in the know. Enjoy. http://www.hardfought.org/files/dod_cvars.txt - K2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Files are out serverside
We can all read Alfreds emails, stop sending out more emails saying its out. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Bobby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: [hlds] Files are out serverside Get new update tool!! Dods -Bobby ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] 3 hours...
Uhh, the bandwidth has been increased actually. The dip in the bandwidth that is occurring right now means they are updating the content servers, thus using up some of that bandwidth. Dagok - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] 3 hours... Really Looks to Me as if it is delayed cause the bandwidth dropped off to save them money. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Staudt Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:31 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 3 hours... The steam version isn't broken... it's an encrypted preload. And when I take a look at the status page I think the server files are coming in a few minutes. Rafael Lopez wrote: lmao 3 hours and no server files. And the steam version of the server is broken as well (gameinfo.txt). SO.no servernot hldsupdatetool and not steam. Don't even mention listen. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4029 - 12 msgs
Ever heard of Bots? Dagok - Original Message - From: "Dustin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4029 - 12 msgs DOD has never been a single player MOD, please tell me there not adding this to DOD source? Dustin Tuft - Original Message - From: "David L. Eggleston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: [hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4029 - 12 msgs The STEAM version doesn't exist! Take a real look at it, all it is, is a menu option there are no files like the other source servers that is why it doesn't work. They have not released the server files in any form yet. And at this point its likely to be a total mad had if they come out. Personally I think we are looking at DOD:S only being playable in single person mode for a bit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:16 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #4029 - 12 msgs Send hlds mailing list submissions to hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Still issues with last Server Update (Ian mu) 2. Re: Still issues with last Server Update (Steven Hartland) 3. Re: Exclude me (Mikee) 4. Re: Still issues with last Server Update (Steven Hartland) 5. Re: Still issues with last Server Update (Steven Hartland) 6. Re: Exclude me (RaynServ) 7. RE: Still issues with last Server Update (Rick Payton) 8. RE: Still issues with last Server Update (Rick Payton) 9. RE: Still issues with last Server Update (Jim B) 10. 3 hours... (Rafael Lopez) 11. Re: Re: [hlds_linux] suicide with world crash (Dagok) 12. RE: 3 hours... ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:19:15 +0100 From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Still issues with last Server Update Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm not sure tbh (I thought there were no issues after the patch, but it may be worth a quick test just in case). mani_stats 0 mani_stats_write_text_file 0 I believe were the vars, naturally quite likely to be something else, but worth a try just in case. Ian On 9/26/05, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Our baseline test box is FreeBSD never even got to test on win32. From reading the mani home page it gave the impression that the stats issue was fixed in version "az" did I get the wrong end of the stick and this still requires disabling? N.B. I used the full update just in case. Steve / K - Original Message - From: "Ian mu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We're running mani fine on linux and windows (all did crash on update, and > just used the "patch" file not the full one to update them which fixed it). > Just wondering if there's a different version or some other conflict > or > something? Also I think there's a stats workaround where just the > stats in > mani can be turned off in the config. > Do you have the same problem on both windows and linux (guessing you prob > have both), as obviously wondering whats different to cause some to go down > others not. (currently running centos 4, win2k3 primarily) This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Steven Hartland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: Re: [hlds] Still issues with last Server Update Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:20:07 +0100 Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com We have just found the solution. The problem was with skin support and an old chicken.txt so my colleague tells me. Steve / K - Original Message - From: "Ian mu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We're running mani fine on linux and windows (all di
Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] suicide with world crash
Just pulled them all out and left Mani Plugin in. Server still hasnt crashed. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Jim B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] suicide with world crash -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am running Mattie's, - LastmanStanding, Couter-Bet and Mani v1.1.0za and not having any problems at all. After this last update. Did you test removing one at a time and trying it ?? or just pulled them all out? - Jim Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An update to this... I removed Mattie's EventScripts, LastManStanding, Counter-Bet-Menu and Vweegit's Pickpocket and the server hasn't crashed since. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Dagok" To: ; Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] suicide with world crash The crash does not retain logs from the game in the logs folder when this is occuring. I luckilly had HLSW running and it automatically saves the console to a log file. There are no error messages, the last line on both logs is a - suicide with "world". Has anyone else experienced this? I can't see how it would be plugin related, but I am running Mani Plugin 1.1.0za, Mattie's EventScripts 0.9.1.0 , LastManStanding 2.5, counter-bet-menu 1.3 and Vweegit's Pickpocket 1.2. I just talked to one of the admins who was on the server at 12:25pm PST and said he was on de_dust2 playing against 1 bot. He planted the bomb and when it blew, he died from it, and the server crashed then too. So 3 committed suicide with world have caused a crash. cs_assault crash 3:53pm PST 9/24/2005 - 17:53:27: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@chine<115>" attacked "V|oL8râ"¢<92>" with "m4a1" (damage "26") (damage_armor "5") (health "0") (armor "84") (hitgroup "stomach") 9/24/2005 - 17:53:27: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@chine<115>" killed "V|oL8râ"¢<92>" with "m4a1" 9/24/2005 - 17:53:35: "[AF]Cheshire<110>" committed suicide with "world" de_aztec crash 6:03pm PST 9/24/2005 - 20:03:07: "â?¢Â«Â§Â£Ã'ìÃ-R §HÃ.Ã'K!»â?¢<93>" attacked "oxYcoDOnE<79>" with "deagle" (damage "37") (damage_armor "6") (health "17") (armor "88") (hitgroup "stomach") 9/24/2005 - 20:03:07: "Purple Cactus<107><>" entered the game 9/24/2005 - 20:03:08: "oxYcoDOnE<79>" committed suicide with "world" ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] suicide with world crash
An update to this... I removed Mattie's EventScripts, LastManStanding, Counter-Bet-Menu and Vweegit's Pickpocket and the server hasn't crashed since. Dagok - Original Message ----- From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] suicide with world crash The crash does not retain logs from the game in the logs folder when this is occuring. I luckilly had HLSW running and it automatically saves the console to a log file. There are no error messages, the last line on both logs is a - suicide with "world". Has anyone else experienced this? I can't see how it would be plugin related, but I am running Mani Plugin 1.1.0za, Mattie's EventScripts 0.9.1.0 , LastManStanding 2.5, counter-bet-menu 1.3 and Vweegit's Pickpocket 1.2. I just talked to one of the admins who was on the server at 12:25pm PST and said he was on de_dust2 playing against 1 bot. He planted the bomb and when it blew, he died from it, and the server crashed then too. So 3 committed suicide with world have caused a crash. cs_assault crash 3:53pm PST 9/24/2005 - 17:53:27: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@chine<115>" attacked "V|oL8râ"¢<92>" with "m4a1" (damage "26") (damage_armor "5") (health "0") (armor "84") (hitgroup "stomach") 9/24/2005 - 17:53:27: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@chine<115>" killed "V|oL8râ"¢<92>" with "m4a1" 9/24/2005 - 17:53:35: "[AF]Cheshire<110>" committed suicide with "world" de_aztec crash 6:03pm PST 9/24/2005 - 20:03:07: "â?¢Â«Â§Â£Ã'ìÃ-R §HÃ.Ã'K!»â?¢<93>" attacked "oxYcoDOnE<79>" with "deagle" (damage "37") (damage_armor "6") (health "17") (armor "88") (hitgroup "stomach") 9/24/2005 - 20:03:07: "Purple Cactus<107><>" entered the game 9/24/2005 - 20:03:08: "oxYcoDOnE<79>" committed suicide with "world" ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] suicide with world crash
The crash does not retain logs from the game in the logs folder when this is occuring. I luckilly had HLSW running and it automatically saves the console to a log file. There are no error messages, the last line on both logs is a - suicide with "world". Has anyone else experienced this? I can't see how it would be plugin related, but I am running Mani Plugin 1.1.0za, Mattie's EventScripts 0.9.1.0 , LastManStanding 2.5, counter-bet-menu 1.3 and Vweegit's Pickpocket 1.2. I just talked to one of the admins who was on the server at 12:25pm PST and said he was on de_dust2 playing against 1 bot. He planted the bomb and when it blew, he died from it, and the server crashed then too. So 3 committed suicide with world have caused a crash. cs_assault crash 3:53pm PST 9/24/2005 - 17:53:27: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@chine<115>" attacked "V|oL8râ"¢<92>" with "m4a1" (damage "26") (damage_armor "5") (health "0") (armor "84") (hitgroup "stomach") 9/24/2005 - 17:53:27: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]@chine<115>" killed "V|oL8râ"¢<92>" with "m4a1" 9/24/2005 - 17:53:35: "[AF]Cheshire<110>" committed suicide with "world" de_aztec crash 6:03pm PST 9/24/2005 - 20:03:07: "â?¢Â«Â§Â£Ã'ìÃ-R §HÃ.Ã'K!»â?¢<93>" attacked "oxYcoDOnE<79>" with "deagle" (damage "37") (damage_armor "6") (health "17") (armor "88") (hitgroup "stomach") 9/24/2005 - 20:03:07: "Purple Cactus<107><>" entered the game 9/24/2005 - 20:03:08: "oxYcoDOnE<79>" committed suicide with "world" ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ack, new update doesn't like Mani
Doesnt matter at this point, even getting the server to run with the plugin...using most admin functions in-game crashes the server. We have to wait for a plugin update. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Rick Payton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Ack, new update doesn't like Mani While I've never used the Mani stats (hlstats for me), I loved the logging of admins Instead of renaming the directory, has anyone tried just disabling the logging yet? Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:11 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Ack, new update doesn't like Mani You dont need to disable Mani Stats, it works fine after you delete the old files. Dagok ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ack, new update doesn't like Mani
You dont need to disable Mani Stats, it works fine after you delete the old files. Dagok - Original Message - From: "ironchef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:04 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Ack, new update doesn't like Mani Dagok wrote: There are some of us over Mani Admin Forums troubleshooting the problem. There is also a problem with the mani_logs folder/function but we aren't entirely sure what yet, just that it crashes the server with the mani_logs folder being uploaded, but if there is none the server starts fine. I just did the following: 1. Removed any player stats files 2. Removed the mani logs directory 3. Turned off the stats features and separate logging functions in mani_server.cfg 4. Restarted It seems to be running properly now. I've got one server as a regular CS:S running Mani Admin Plugin v1.1.0y and a CS:S Zombie server running Mani Admin Plugin v1.1.0p, and both seem to be working, minus the stats and logging. -- ironchef http://www.dexworld.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ack, new update doesn't like Mani
There are some of us over Mani Admin Forums troubleshooting the problem. There is also a problem with the mani_logs folder/function but we aren't entirely sure what yet, just that it crashes the server with the mani_logs folder being uploaded, but if there is none the server starts fine. Dagok - Original Message - From: "ironchef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:40 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Ack, new update doesn't like Mani Woodland, Paul wrote: FYI, for anyone having this problem, I've just been reading their forums, and removing the mani_stats.dat from your installation should fix the issue (it did for many people on the forums, although not all, and I've just done it and its fixed mine to) Bummer. I gave that a try and it got further in the startup than previously, but then crashed out without a dialog. -- ironchef http://www.dexworld.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] RE: Mandatory Source engine update later today...
Then be excited that they found the problem before they did the update instead of after it was released. Things happen, bugs get discovered at the 12th hour. The patch will happen when its ready. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Genocidal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: Mandatory Source engine update later today... -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Do any of you even read what I just replied? I said that I'm not anti-valve omg no update *slit wrist* person. I have a life, I could really care less. I'm just excited about the new stuff Valve is coming out with. And I'll re-quote myself just for the hell of it since you people are so blind. On 9/22/05, Genocidal aka TGenocide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about don't post saying its coming three days in a row, tell us its delayed once, the next day just not say anything about it at all, thurs comes and says its coming, and now backs down again. If that isn't a bit disorganized I don't know what is. On 9/22/05, Alex Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As far as anyone knew until probably 20 minutes ago, this release was on. We were given fair warning of it (i'm sure a lot of us hate having updates sprung on us at the last minute) AFAIK, Valve are the only people who release regular updates that actually tend to do useful things. Go to bed and get over it, it's not the end of the world. Genocidal wrote: >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about don't post saying its coming >three days in a row, tell us its delayed once, the next day just not say >anything about it at all, thurs comes and says its coming, and now backs >down again. If that isn't a bit disorganized I don't know what is. > >On 9/22/05, Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>-- >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>lay off him, not his fault... >>u wanna get an update that hangs your server? gets it a BSOD? >>didnt think so >> >>On 9/22/05, Genocidal aka TGenocide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>-- >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>AGAIN? Jeez, get your facts straight please! >>> >>>On 9/22/05, Erik Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Bad news folks, we ran into another problem that is going to push us >>>>into tomorrow. Sorry for the false start. >>>> >>>>Erik >>>> >>>>-Original Message- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller >>>>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 6:58 PM >>>>To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>Cc: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com >>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: Mandatory Source engine update later today... >>>> >>>>-- >>>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>>Doug said there would be a client update along with this one. Is that >>>>also >>>>schedule to go with the server release? Or will the client release >>>> >>>> >>come >> >> >>>>tomorrow as per-usual Friday updates? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Alfred, first person bug fix?
Haven't seen a response to this yet. Any info? Dagok - Original Message - From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Alfred, first person bug fix? Well I don't know anything about this Spec bug he is refering to, but how about a fix for the other First Person PoV bug where the camera drops to crouch height? This happens alot, where you press crouch then bump into something, release button and the model stands up, but the camera doesnt move with it. This also happens just if you are running along at standing height and bump into walls or objects and your camera just drops to crouch height. In both cases pressing jump or crouch will return the camera to proper position. If this is related to the Spec camera bug I do not know. This bug has existed for a long time now, 3 or 4, maybe even 5 months. There has been plenty of complaints about it on the Steam forums and I'm sure you have received Bug Reports ingame regarding it. So can we please get a status on this problem? I think alot of people expected it to be fixed with the big update on Wednesday...and unfortunately it was not. thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred, first person bug fix? I haven't heard of this bug before, if you forward me the details offlist I can pass it onto the team for consideration. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:25 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Alfred, first person bug fix? Uve prommised us months ago this would get fixed for cs 1.6 based servers. User joining slot 32 gets a bug that when you spec him, you actually see another name + a very weird view. When can we expect such fix? Its hell to check some one on cheating when they have this bug... Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Alfred, first person bug fix?
Well I don't know anything about this Spec bug he is refering to, but how about a fix for the other First Person PoV bug where the camera drops to crouch height? This happens alot, where you press crouch then bump into something, release button and the model stands up, but the camera doesnt move with it. This also happens just if you are running along at standing height and bump into walls or objects and your camera just drops to crouch height. In both cases pressing jump or crouch will return the camera to proper position. If this is related to the Spec camera bug I do not know. This bug has existed for a long time now, 3 or 4, maybe even 5 months. There has been plenty of complaints about it on the Steam forums and I'm sure you have received Bug Reports ingame regarding it. So can we please get a status on this problem? I think alot of people expected it to be fixed with the big update on Wednesday...and unfortunately it was not. thanks, Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Alfred, first person bug fix? I haven't heard of this bug before, if you forward me the details offlist I can pass it onto the team for consideration. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:25 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Alfred, first person bug fix? Uve prommised us months ago this would get fixed for cs 1.6 based servers. User joining slot 32 gets a bug that when you spec him, you actually see another name + a very weird view. When can we expect such fix? Its hell to check some one on cheating when they have this bug... Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update soon
Bummer, what happened? Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update soon This has been moved to tomorrow, I will send another announcement closer to its release. - Alfred Within the next couple of hours. This will be a required update due to the new map, cs_assault. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update soon
He gave an estimated time..."Within the next couple of hours." Sean - Original Message - From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update soon fuck yeah dude excuse the language but excited... in any case yeah any estimated time? im going to be playing bf2 but I will definantly be getting on css for the new map :) - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update soon Within the next couple of hours. This will be a required update due to the new map, cs_assault. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered...
Cmon people, stop being jerks. I asked Sandy to do something about the headers and the advert and he/she did. Leave it alone now. Flaming is completely unneccasary. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Mikee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... I always enjoy watching how when someone decides to attack someone's email posting style, it ends up generating at least 20 additional emails (mine now makes 21) about what they are trying to get rid of. Like several have said, these things can be handled directly with the person, or by using the simple rules filters. People just love to abuse other people. I am amused most by the fact that Sandy linked an image to a website that won't come up for me to enjoy: www.oldtimersclan.con/LOD/hotmail.jpg[1] maybe the con should really have been a .com ?? LOL! This just illustrates that we should go easy on our senior citizens in these HLDS email lists. - Original Message - From: "Ryan Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... I think his emails are now acceptable for the list. For anyone who do not wish to receive any more emails from him, most email clients and web-based mail have filtering options to block emails from a particular address. Regards, Ryan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SANDY LEBLANC Sent: 24 June 2005 20:37 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I seriously have no idea what spam you're refering to when all I see is what's in this pic; www.oldtimersclan.con/LOD/hotmail.jpg[1] Show me what you see because I sure as hell don't. From: "James McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:26:37 -0700 Please stop posting, Sandy. I'm done with you spamming my email box. -- Sincerely, James McKenna ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ===References:=== 1. http://www.oldtimersclan.con/LOD/hotmail.jpg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered...
Fact is, Valve has said numerous times there will be no more warnings before they begin issuing bans with VAC2. But no, people don't listen, then whine when they get banned. Dagok - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... People appear to be being banned from vacbeta enabled servers... To me, this would be the logical conclusion of the testing cycle (you have to test that it actually works, right?). Hopefully, they find no issues, and can implement the update that enables VAC2 by default, along with the first round of bans very soon now... There have been discussions of bugs, but I've yet to see anyone from Valve make that comment in the last 24 hours, which is when I believe when the bans started going into effect. On Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:25 pm, SANDY LEBLANC said: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] The thing they're swearing on now is getting banned by VAC2. Get paid cash every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=1117447[1] >From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >To: >Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... >Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:37 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc7-f12.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:09:41 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1Dlant-0003G5-00; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:08:13 -0700 >Received: from [62.241.163.6] (helo=astro.systems.pipex.net)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DlanV-0003E4-00for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:07:49 -0700 >Received: from bensbigcomputer (81-178-249-102.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.249.102])by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24F3E000135for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:23 +0100 (BST) >X-Message-Info: cTX+9FGku413lfZb3gBilJUcAOjE4vnXnnevis7ufLg= >X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 >Thread-Index: AcV4RD02zl36/F/tQ3Kzux6GEzhqCgABCMhA >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 >Precedence: bulk >List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Post: <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >List-Subscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Archive: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/> >X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:37 +0100 >Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 23:09:41.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[A296AFD0:01C57848] > >People swear that all kinds of things happen to them on the steampowered >forums, and some, just swear ;) > >I wouldn't take much notice of it! > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan >Sent: 23 June 2005 23:25 >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >Subject: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... > >What's the story with that? Some people swear they were banned, one was >banned/unbanned, couple others insist it's still beta...? > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ===References:=== 1. http://www.mintmail.com/?m=1117447 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered...
Like what? You kidding? Just look at the reply below. It is filling in all of the header info everytime you respond. Plus we don't need your advertisment regarding MintMail. Pretty sure there is an option to turn off header info in replies in Hotmail as I dont get it from anyone else using Hotmail. Dagok - Original Message - From: "SANDY LEBLANC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Like what? if anything is added, blame hotmail. I myself haven't added anything. Get paid cash every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=1117447[1] From: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:34:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc3-f8.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:37:36 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DlbEt-0003z6-00; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:36:07 -0700 Received: from [199.185.220.220] (helo=priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DlbCl-0003w4-00for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:33:55 -0700 Received: from dagok ([154.20.30.124]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.04 201-2131-118-104-20050224) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:34:30 -0600 X-Message-Info: g+YnDTwJTP7lXNcSJ5oABoCitcU+SHOI+3//XjUlWf8= References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk X-Reply-To: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> List-Subscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/> X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:34:20 -0700 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 23:37:36.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[89106D90:01C5784C] Sandy, everytime you post, do you really need to give us all this extra spam crap? Dagok - Original Message - From: "SANDY LEBLANC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] The thing they're swearing on now is getting banned by VAC2. Get paid cash every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=1117447[1] From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc7-f12.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:09:41 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1Dlant-0003G5-00; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:08:13 -0700 Received: from [62.241.163.6] (helo=astro.systems.pipex.net)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DlanV-0003E4-00for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:07:49 -0700 Received: from bensbigcomputer (81-178-249-102.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.249.102])by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24F3E000135for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:23 +0100 (BST) X-Message-Info: cTX+9FGku413lfZb3gBilJUcAOjE4vnXnnevis7ufLg= X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcV4RD02zl36/F/tQ3Kzux6GEzhqCgABCMhA Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> List-Subscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/> X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:37 +0100 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 23:09:41.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[A296AFD0:01
Re: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered...
Sandy, everytime you post, do you really need to give us all this extra spam crap? Dagok - Original Message - From: "SANDY LEBLANC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] The thing they're swearing on now is getting banned by VAC2. Get paid cash every time you receive email! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=1117447[1] From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To: Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from list.valvesoftware.com ([207.173.176.202]) by mc7-f12.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:09:41 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1Dlant-0003G5-00; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:08:13 -0700 Received: from [62.241.163.6] (helo=astro.systems.pipex.net)by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian))id 1DlanV-0003E4-00for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:07:49 -0700 Received: from bensbigcomputer (81-178-249-102.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.249.102])by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24F3E000135for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:23 +0100 (BST) X-Message-Info: cTX+9FGku413lfZb3gBilJUcAOjE4vnXnnevis7ufLg= X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Thread-Index: AcV4RD02zl36/F/tQ3Kzux6GEzhqCgABCMhA Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> List-Subscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlds/> X-Original-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 00:08:37 +0100 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2005 23:09:41.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[A296AFD0:01C57848] People swear that all kinds of things happen to them on the steampowered forums, and some, just swear ;) I wouldn't take much notice of it! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sent: 23 June 2005 23:25 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] VAC2 threads on Steampowered... What's the story with that? Some people swear they were banned, one was banned/unbanned, couple others insist it's still beta...? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ===References:=== 1. http://www.mintmail.com/?m=1117447 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
What you are describing is from servers running Mani Admin Plugin or BeetleFarts plugin. They added a rudimentary detection for the common HLH hack by sending the client cvar commands that are known to be used to execute the cheat. So when the cvar is successfull it knows that person has a cheat installed and then based on the setting it can ban them automatically. So its really nothing to worry about. Dagok - Original Message - From: "James Tucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta I am interested to know if there will be any client side protection in VAC2, as this is something I am becoming increasingly concerned with. Just yesterday one of the servers outside of my management which I play on quite regularly came to sending me a pile of cvar requests (normal for some of the hack-check systems) then it sent me a pile data which I cannot identify - followed by a console clear. Now forgive me for my paranioa, but IMO this is the start of "Adware" financed servers - PLEASE PROTECT THE CLIENTS FROM THE SERVERS TOO!!! On 6/13/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They should just make a new anti-cheat altogether. If you cheat, a VALVe employee is sent to cremate your computer, using a special VALVe created grinding machine that grinds computers to a fine dust. The dust is then sold to kitten litter manufacturers. And it will be in the EULA that you agree to it. People will stop cheating real fast. - voogru. -Original Message- From: Alexander Kobbevik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:44 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta Whatever people say, its better then nothing at all! And you never know when they update it... So if you cheat... you can be cought off guard! As it is now... there is nothing at all... Even if I knew VAC2 would only catch 1/10 of cheaters I will welcome it! Happy happy joy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13. juni 2005 01:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] vac2 will come out and then the next day it will be hacked . -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta
The Steam News update back in March specifically said... "we will be logging cheating violations into our database to make sure it's ready for general release. " http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/Mar25.2005/ Since they updated HL1 code last week to prepare for the release of VAC2, I'd expect to see VAC2 released by the end of the month. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yeah, that'd be what I thought after the "Imminently" line, but that seems to not be the case these days. That, and I'm fairly sure I remember seeing Alfred comment that cheat detection was coming up, not already completed - which is why I'm asking so that I can find out what's going on. =] artiecs wrote: Well there was an email from Doug Lombardi a couple weeks ago saying release was 'Imminent'. I'de have to guess from that, that the connectivity issues are the last major item to sort out. Detection testing must already be complete, if it wasn't and they were starting it after the connectivity issues, there's no way that the release could be 'imminent'. But this is all speculation on my part. - Original Message - From: "Matthew White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Status of VAC2 Beta This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] from what i remember reading the announcement of connectivity testing was the last official word before the system went live. correct me if im wrong. --- Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Jonathan wrote: Apologies if I've somehow missed this in an earlier message from someone else (or Alfred, even), but the last I knew of VAC2, it was still in connectivity testing. This was several weeks, I believe, before the recent update that seems to have expanded the beta to 1.6. So, where exactly are we with the beta test? Still connectivity, or have we moved along to cheat detection testing? Just curious to see how it's progressing. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Point of View problems...
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Not knowing if Valve are aware of the POV problem in CSS, I'm submitting this here, since we know Alfred will see it. I've seen plenty of examples of the POV problems before, but most of them have the right intention but are poorly done. This website has screens that show exactly the problem that currently exsists. http://clientes.netvisao.pt/sstrike/d2/pov.htm Alfred, any comment? Is this known? Is it being worked on? The original thread on Steam Forums... http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=299634 thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!
I think the initial request has gotten lost in the thread. When people are in-game they can type sv_downloadurl and it shows them the download URL which they can then copy and add to their own server.cfg Yes there are ways of blocking others from downloading from that URL , but it would be nice if sv_downloadurl showed ** instead of the URL to the public. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web server contains the following line: Referer: hl2:// You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this information. - Alfred Original Message From: Alfred Reynolds Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:37 PM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! We will look at adding an X-header to the request. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of m0gely Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:26 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! > Mikee wrote: > > > How would you use the .htaccess to only allow folder access from a > > given server IP, since it is basically a web url based access? > > If you restrict it to the server ip then the feature won't work. > The client downloads the files, not the server. And since you have > no idea what the client IP's will be, well you get the idea. They > need to either make the cvar protected like rcon, or add a referrer > to the request so the web server can filter. This has been > requested many times. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This was posted on the Source DS (Windows) team forums. POsting it here in hopes that it will get directly to Valve. "ok a little problem is people being able to just type sv_downloadurl in console and steal our links and use it on there server stealing our bandwith. I think valve should hide this when someone types it" Yes there are ways for people to setup htaccess etc so only they can use the folder. But it sure would be nice if typing sv_downloadurl in the console would return "**" like sv_password and rcon_password do. Can you please pass this along Alfred? thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate
Well you need to find servers where you trust the admin. I've never used the Client Commands to do anything malicious, although I know there are admins out there that do and take pride in it. To avoid potential abuse only myself and one other admin on my server has the ability to do this anyways. Most of the people with bad rate settings don't bother to change their "net connection" in the options and so they get 56k (or worse) rate settings by default. Others are intentionally dropping their rates so they do appear jitter and warp to throw off other players. But hey if the below server commands worked the way they should then I wouldnt need to use the Client Commands at all. Dagok - Original Message - From: "WayneH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:23 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate This is why I have my .cfg's write protected, because I dislike people doing anything to my setups. Have a look at all the posts in the steam forums of admin totalling peoples .cfg's just for fun or reprisal. Another reason why admin mods are bloated and down right dangerous. I wonder if you could have a case for the judicial system if you could prove that an admin altered something on your computer without consent? Especially if the MOTD did not mention such things may happen as a provision of playing on said server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok Sent: Friday, 3 June 2005 4:02 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate However, these rate values don't work in forcing a client to use them. At least in my experience. In my server.cfg I have: sv_maxrate 2 sv_minrate 1 sv_maxupdaterate 50 sv_minupdaterate 30 If I see people lagging (jittering) while moving, I will run ma_rates and I get rates displayed for people as low as 2500 and as high as 3. I have Client Commands setup in Mani Admin Plugin to change their rates for those people and once I do they stop lagging. It would be nice if these settings actually worked in the server.cfg. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] BTW, does anybody know what Eric really meant when he said in http://www.valve-erc.com/srcsdk/general/multiplayer_networking.html at the end of the 2nd paragraph under *Basic Networking* "Also the server admin can limit the data and snapshot rate values requested by clients with *sv_maxrate, sv_maxupdaterate* and * sv_maxupdaterate*." Is one of those supposed to be sv_minupdaterate? Thanks On 6/3/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OMG some documentation, FINALLY When did you find this Martin? On 6/3/05, Martin Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The default tickrate for CS:S is 33, for HL2 & HL2DM 66. > > With tickrate 100, a CS:S server runs 3 times more simulation steps > then > > a 33 tickrate server, which may cause a 3 times higher CPU usage. Also > the client to server bandwidth increases by 300% since the client > samples 3 times more input command than usual. I think with the recent > fixes for lag compesentaion tickrate 100 isn't really needed, maybe 66 > if people are hypersensitive about that. > > So also > http://www.valve-erc.com/srcsdk/general/multiplayer_networking.html > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of leo bounds > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:08 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate > > I have some questions about Tic rate. > > The default Tic rate is 33 correct ? > > Why is CAL requiring servers to be locked at a Tic rate of 100 and > does > this mean that the slice or percentage of CPU usage 100 Tic rate > servers > will be locked down or reserved? > > I mean does a 100 Tic rate server lock down a percentage of CPU to use > for that server on a machine running multiple servers ? > > Is there any more information available about how 100 Tic rate affects > CPU usage ? > > Thank you for any info about this. I have many people asking me about > it. > > > > __ > Discover Yahoo! > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it > out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit
Re: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate
However, these rate values don't work in forcing a client to use them. At least in my experience. In my server.cfg I have: sv_maxrate 2 sv_minrate 1 sv_maxupdaterate 50 sv_minupdaterate 30 If I see people lagging (jittering) while moving, I will run ma_rates and I get rates displayed for people as low as 2500 and as high as 3. I have Client Commands setup in Mani Admin Plugin to change their rates for those people and once I do they stop lagging. It would be nice if these settings actually worked in the server.cfg. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] BTW, does anybody know what Eric really meant when he said in http://www.valve-erc.com/srcsdk/general/multiplayer_networking.html at the end of the 2nd paragraph under *Basic Networking* "Also the server admin can limit the data and snapshot rate values requested by clients with *sv_maxrate, sv_maxupdaterate* and * sv_maxupdaterate*." Is one of those supposed to be sv_minupdaterate? Thanks On 6/3/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OMG some documentation, FINALLY When did you find this Martin? On 6/3/05, Martin Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The default tickrate for CS:S is 33, for HL2 & HL2DM 66. > > With tickrate 100, a CS:S server runs 3 times more simulation steps > then > > a 33 tickrate server, which may cause a 3 times higher CPU usage. Also > the client to server bandwidth increases by 300% since the client > samples 3 times more input command than usual. I think with the recent > fixes for lag compesentaion tickrate 100 isn't really needed, maybe 66 > if people are hypersensitive about that. > > So also > http://www.valve-erc.com/srcsdk/general/multiplayer_networking.html > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of leo bounds > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:08 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] Re: Questions about Tic rate > > I have some questions about Tic rate. > > The default Tic rate is 33 correct ? > > Why is CAL requiring servers to be locked at a Tic rate of 100 and does > this mean that the slice or percentage of CPU usage 100 Tic rate > servers > will be locked down or reserved? > > I mean does a 100 Tic rate server lock down a percentage of CPU to use > for that server on a machine running multiple servers ? > > Is there any more information available about how 100 Tic rate affects > CPU usage ? > > Thank you for any info about this. I have many people asking me about > it. > > > > __ > Discover Yahoo! > Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] r_3dsky
As Clayton said..."Create Server" and look for yourself. I can't be specific because I'm not going to go look myself to give you examples when you can do that yourself. - Original Message - From: "m1kest4r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] r_3dsky Thanks clayton, im well aware it turns the 3d sky off. but why is this a "cheat". Thanks dagok but you see i wasnt satisified with the replies of the older thread (which i started) so im asking again, solely on this. can you tell me what 3dsky affects more than the sky? thats what im asking. On 5/31/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This was already discussed this past weekend, look back at older threads. r_3dsky affects more than just the sky. - Original Message - From: "m1kest4r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:18 AM Subject: [hlds] r_3dsky > failing anyone having a seriously legimate reason to why this is a > cheat cvar other than some garbage like "look at with sv_cheats 1 on". > > can someone please (preferably from valve who actually knows whats > going on rather than making crappy assumptions) explain to me why this > is a cheat cvar. this why means "its because this bad thing (say; see > thru walls) can happen when you use it". not "its unfair if you dont > know how to change it" - cos thats a useless response. donkeys could > tell me more interesting things. > > cheers in advance for anyone with a serious clue. demo/jpg's would be > great if you could really be bothered. peace out. > > m1kest4r. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] r_3dsky
This was already discussed this past weekend, look back at older threads. r_3dsky affects more than just the sky. - Original Message - From: "m1kest4r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:18 AM Subject: [hlds] r_3dsky failing anyone having a seriously legimate reason to why this is a cheat cvar other than some garbage like "look at with sv_cheats 1 on". can someone please (preferably from valve who actually knows whats going on rather than making crappy assumptions) explain to me why this is a cheat cvar. this why means "its because this bad thing (say; see thru walls) can happen when you use it". not "its unfair if you dont know how to change it" - cos thats a useless response. donkeys could tell me more interesting things. cheers in advance for anyone with a serious clue. demo/jpg's would be great if you could really be bothered. peace out. m1kest4r. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Force demo playback?
You want constructive? STFU and make AVI files out of the demo's before CSS is patched. You've already been told this but obviously don't care to listen. You probably won't listen to this either, so I'm probably wasting my time. I think everyone is getting tired of your whiney BS. We are all in the same boat here when it comes to demo's being incompatible after patches. You aren't special. - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Force demo playback? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You guys have no idea how our system works EVERY CHEAT has a demo which can be reviewed at ANY TIME if they ever query why they were banned. This is how we keep transparancy and accountability for the bans we put in place. You might do things differently, thats you call on your servers. On our servers we require demos for permanent cheat bans, end of story. I've explained why several times now, and so far nobody has offered anything contructive in way of solution, and saying smart arse comments like "why you want to keep demos for 5 years" just means your a fucktard troll with too much time on their hands, who has no answer. If you don't have the answer for a question, just stfu. On 5/30/05, Deadman Standing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now would be a good time grow up Whisper or at least be constructive to the conversation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:14 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Force demo playback? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] *Quotes from: **Clayton (Iraqi Information Minister) Macleod* ** "There are no cheats in Counter-Strike Source" "Cheating is not a problem in Counter-Strike Source" "If there were cheats in Counter-Strike Source, VAC would catch them" "In fact VAC is running on your server right now!" On 5/30/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > heh, you're a freak > > On 5/30/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > I'll grow up when you start offering constructive solutions, rather than > > sitting on your high horse claiming that its not a problem. > > Meet the new Iraqi Information Minister people! > > > -- > Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] myg0t on my server
Use Mani admin plugin to auto kick anyone using that tag. Dagok - Original Message - From: "ironchef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:21 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] myg0t on my server Ook wrote: What do you do when you see myg0t tags on your server? Instaban, both ID and IP. If it turns out to be a regular goofing around, he'll post on the forums to have himself unbanned. If it's not, well then I just hopefully got rid of a major annoyance. I use the name banning plugins for AMXx and have 'em look for the g0ts and other useless clans or racist idiots. I see no reason to tolerate 'em being there. Sometimes, they'll come in without the tag, but I noticed they'll usually put it back on before causing trouble. -- ironchef http://www.dexworld.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: E3 interviews missing 1 question...
That was asked and answered in the Planet Half Life interview. This Summer. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Pawel Dabrowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:25 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: E3 interviews missing 1 question... And the second question missing was when is DOD for HL2 gonna come out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok Sent: 27 May 2005 00:00 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: E3 interviews missing 1 question... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I'd pass this along since Doug didn't CC the hlds list. Dagok - Original Message - From: Doug Lombardi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:34 PM Subject: RE: E3 interviews missing 1 question... "Imminently." Cheers ---- -- From: Dagok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:58 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Alfred Reynolds; Doug Lombardi Subject: E3 interviews missing 1 question... Hey guys, I've seen a few E3 interviews with Doug so far, most answer the questions I think most of us have had about the work you are doing. But one important question seems to be absent. When can we expect to have VAC2 launched publicly for server admins to enable Secure mode and permanently banning cheaters from secure servers? thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Re: E3 interviews missing 1 question...
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Though I'd pass this along since Doug didn't CC the hlds list. Dagok - Original Message - From: Doug Lombardi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:34 PM Subject: RE: E3 interviews missing 1 question... "Imminently." Cheers -- From: Dagok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:58 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Alfred Reynolds; Doug Lombardi Subject: E3 interviews missing 1 question... Hey guys, I've seen a few E3 interviews with Doug so far, most answer the questions I think most of us have had about the work you are doing. But one important question seems to be absent. When can we expect to have VAC2 launched publicly for server admins to enable Secure mode and permanently banning cheaters from secure servers? thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] FAO VALVE: No autoswitch?
Options>Multiplayer tab> Advanced> Automatically switch to picked up weapon (if more powerfull) Dagok - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:07 PM Subject: [hlds] FAO VALVE: No autoswitch? Why is there no way to turn of auto-switch when you walk over a gun or some ammo? And no, i'm not talking about hud_fastswitch that appears in the advanced settings under the keyboard options. auto-switch is *really* annoying when you're in the middle of a fire fight with someone and then it automatically changes weapon to a gun with no ammo, and starts to reload it, at which point you get killed. Is someone at valve working on fixing this? Thanks, Dominic Clifton ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] E3 interviews missing 1 question...
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey guys, I've seen a few E3 interviews with Doug so far, most answer the questions I think most of us have had about the work you are doing. But one important question seems to be absent. When can we expect to have VAC2 launched publicly for server admins to enable Secure mode and permanently banning cheaters from secure servers? thanks, Dagok -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update
Ahh well dont I feel dumb. I even went and checked and must have read the 89 as 84. - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update A quick visit to the Nvidia site says that the latest drivers for the GeForce series of cards is 71.89 for WinXP/2K. Are you running under Win95/98? - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oompa Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:41 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] me too. Just hit don't show me again and contenue. On 5/23/05, Dagok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After downloading the patch I get told my Graphics drivers are out > of date. BFG 6800 Ultra OC and using the newest drivers 71.84 > > Dagok > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ; > ; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:49 PM > Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update > > > > We have released an update to Counter-Strike: Source. Run the > > hldsupdatetool to get this update. > > > > This update re-releases the Counter-Strike: Source changes from > > Thursday (while keeping the in game menu enable, for now). > > > > - Alfred > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ~Oompa ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- I realize I can stop it, but it's still a bug and just letting you know about it. Also, I like leaving it enabled for the off chance that I do miss driver updates. Screenshot attached. Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dagok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update Can you email me a screenshot of the dialog please. You can tick the "ignore this warning" message to make it stop. - Alfred Original Message From: Dagok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:37 PM To: Alfred Reynolds; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update > After downloading the patch I get told my Graphics drivers are out of > date. BFG 6800 Ultra OC and using the newest drivers 71.84 > > Dagok > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ; > ; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:49 PM > Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update > > > > We have released an update to Counter-Strike: Source. Run the > > hldsupdatetool to get this update. > > > > This update re-releases the Counter-Strike: Source changes from > > Thursday (while keeping the in game menu enable, for now). > > > > - Alfred > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- [ video-error.jpg of type image/jpeg deleted ] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update
After downloading the patch I get told my Graphics drivers are out of date. BFG 6800 Ultra OC and using the newest drivers 71.84 Dagok - Original Message - From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:49 PM Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source update We have released an update to Counter-Strike: Source. Run the hldsupdatetool to get this update. This update re-releases the Counter-Strike: Source changes from Thursday (while keeping the in game menu enable, for now). - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
