Re: [Hornlist] Straight-Ahead E-Flat Alto Horn

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 12:58 PM 2/19/2004 -0500, you wrote:
Dear Friends,

This reinforces my suspicion that those Eb alto horns are actually 
extra-large flugel horns, not little-bitty baritones.  (However, the 
straight-ahead models may well be more tiring to hold in playing position 
than the upright models.)


We received in our library a picture book of the tuba picture collection of 
Mark S. Chalabala, which includes at least one photo of a "3 valve rotary 
baritone--bell front configuration"...I don't know what the key is, but 
maybe it's all "potatoes," "potahtoes"?...it also had a picture with 
instruments described as a "3 valve rotary baritone & alto horn---Wagner 
Tuben configuration"...and by the way, has anyone ever heard of a 
"neocor"...I found a reference to this instrument in an old Henri Lemoine 
catalog

Amy

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RE: [Hornlist] Baumann and Brahms

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 12:08 PM 2/6/2004 -0600, you wrote:
I think you are referring to a 1972 LP on the MPS/BASF label # 2021184-3.
Joining Baumann are the Bulgarian violinist Stoika Milanova (b. 1945)  and
American pianist Malcolm Frager (1935 - 1991).
This appears to be the material later released on the 1981 MHS issue. (Same 
personnel.)

Amy

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[Hornlist] Baumann/Brahms

[Amy Jo McBeth]

There is an old Musical Heritage Society recording (MHS 4347) released in 
1981.  I've found a note that it was licensed from Seon.  Is this the one?

Amy

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[Hornlist] Fwd: Greg Hustis - UI Recital & Lecture

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I've forwarded on information regarding upcoming events at the University 
of Iowa.  These events are free and open to the public.


On Wednesday, February 4, The University of Iowa Horn Studio welcomes as a 
guest artist

Greg Hustis - principal horn of the Dallas Symphony, owner of Trumcor 
Mutes, concert soloist and recording artist

Mr. Hustis will be giving a horn masterclass at 12:30 pm in the Choral 
Room of Voxman Music Building. At 8 pm in Harper Hall he will be giving a 
half recital (3 Faure Songs, Bozza - En Foret, Mozart - Concert Rondo, 
Sargon Weeping Shofar, Dukas Villanelle) followed by a lecture and 
question/answer session on the subject of "Life as a Professional Musician".

I would like to invite you (and/or your students) to both the masterclass 
and recital/lecture. Both are free and open to the public.

If you have any questions, drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
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Don't miss this opportunity to hear and meet one of the great horn players 
of our day.

See you there-

Jeffrey Agrell


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Re: [Hornlist] Horn celebrities?

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I don't know if he was ever a horn player, but Marty Feldman in "Young 
Frankenstein" was right on the mark in the scene near the end, where Dr. 
Frankenstein (Gene Wilder) is playing the violin on the top of the castle, 
trying to lure the monster (Peter Boyle) back.  Feldman (Igor--"it's 
pronounced Eye-gor") sits counting rests off a sheet of music, blowing air 
through his "horn" etc., while Wilder plays away---from memory, of 
course.  At the appropriate moment, Feldman/Igor stands and plays a simple 
three note half-step bit (twice, I believe), and sits back down.  Feldman 
either knew firsthand about playing horn in an ensemble, or Wilder/Brooks 
did when they wrote the bit.  It is classic!

Amy

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[Hornlist] Re: Gallay

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Has anyone ever heard of a 13th or 14th "solo" by Gallay?  (There is, of 
course a 12th solo, to which I have access.)  Constant Pierre in his 
collection of documents from the Conservatoire lists these solos as test 
pieces in various yearsof course he also lists a 3rd and a 12th 
concerto, so I'm thinking neither a 13th or 14th solo exists.  And that he 
either misread some information regarding a so-called 3rd and 12th 
concerto, and reproduced it, or it's a misprint.

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist] missing address

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Thumb folks are the BEST (EASIEST) CONSUMER. Thumb folks do never
revolt. Thumb folks can be kicked in the ass, but would eventually say
"thank you" then.


"Thumb folks"?  Any words of wisdom from Cabbage?

A.

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Re: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone

[Amy Jo McBeth]

  Singers (vocalists) seem to SLUR everything,unless of
course,there's an occasional rest.


I don't think they DO slur everything.  Just depends on the 
music...markings, etc...

A.

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Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Well, they talk about compilations, etc, but make note of a 1908 French 
film by Henri Lavedan (L'assassinat du duc de Guise) with a score by 
Saint-Saens.

A.

At 05:45 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
So who does Groves say it was?   -AC.
 
At 04:17 PM 12/3/2003 -0600, you wrote:
I "cheated" and looked in our on-line Grove...can't help it, I work in a 
library!

Amy


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Re: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I "cheated" and looked in our on-line Grove...can't help it, I work in a 
library!

Amy

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RE: [Hornlist] John Williams concerto premiere

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Prokofiev?

Amy

At 04:05 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Quiz:   Which major composer wrote the 1st motion picture music score?

-AC.
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At 03:52 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I bet a lot of John Williams's music that is in the background (behind
dialog, etc.) is a little less "accessible" too. Composing for film is
different because there are two distinct kinds of music: music you are
supposed to notice and music you *aren't* supposed to notice. Concert
music doesn't work the same way.
Greg


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Re: [Hornlist] I'm so tempted....but I won't (Charles Renfro)

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I'm sure that, as usual, some overly articulate person will respond with
various good sounding reasons why there's really nothing wrong with these
topics, and how we don't have to read them if we don't want to. These
statements are probably all true, but they're also crap.


Assuming this is in reference to what I sent, I'm glad you think I'm overly 
articulate in expressing my crap ;)

Amy

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[Hornlist] NHR, NON-HORN RELATED

[Amy Jo McBeth]

You know what I like about this list?  It's not monitored.  You know what I 
dislike about this list?  It's not monitored.

I like that we sometimes veer from the path of talking about the horn and 
music only.  It sometimes gives us a glimpse at (if not full frontal 
exposure to) the character of an individual list member.  We come to know 
each other more fully as human beings in these exchanges.  And darn it, it 
sometimes makes things more interesting when you've grown weary of a thread 
on mouthpiece dimensions and fingering combinations...

I do agree that, at times, it really gets frustrating to see long exchanges 
about non-horn related topics, especially when you've come to the list to 
talk about only the horn.  (That's why I rarely join in these off-topic 
conversations.)

I know it can be annoying to hit the delete button repeatedly, but I 
believe everyone who has joined in the NHR exchanges has indicated he/she 
is off-topic in the subject line.  Is it not possible to have individual 
e-mail filters separate out anything that has a subject line containing 
"NHR" and either label it as spam, or delete it?

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist] Atom-bombing of Japan in 1944

[Amy Jo McBeth]

The bombing of Hiroshima is not considered a war crime any more than the 
bombing of Pearl Harbor.  Both acts were attempts to end the war quickly 
and minimize the total casualties.  To be effective, the shock value had 
to be overwhelming.


You have to wonder about Nagasaki, though...

 President Bush is clearly the most powerful individual on earth, but he 
was very cautious to gather enough international support, after extensive 
dialog, before he implemented the plan.
"...very cautious to gather enough international support..."  Huh?

amy

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Re: [Hornlist] Horn Singing

[Amy Jo McBeth]

This is all good stuff.  And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a run on 
this thesis at San Francisco State's Interlibrary Loan office...One 
thought, though... I don't think one should discount the notion of how a 
note "feels" whether you're playing it on the horn or singing it.  I'm not 
a great horn player, or singer, but I know that a note in one part of my 
range does have a different "feel" to it, whether it's played on the horn 
or sung.  And singers certainly do talk about "placing" the note.  While I 
absolutely advocate the use of singing and sight singing to become a better 
horn player, I think talking about the physical feeling or "taste" (as I've 
sometimes heard) of a given pitch can be really beneficial, too, especially 
to beginning players who may be trying to distinguish between notes on the 
F horn from c2 on up.  I'm probably oversimplifying what the author said, 
though.  My apologies, if so.

Amy


“When you are about the sing a tone with your larynx you do not think, 
“Now I must tighten this to a certain felling, then blow air to make tone 
come.” No, you simply take a breath, think of the tone you want and sing 
it. Certain involuntary muscular tensions take place ­ but they are 
secondary to your thought of the pitch, timbre and volume that you want.” ­




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[Hornlist] Joseph Mourek

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I couldn't tell from the way this appeared in my mailbox if the entire 
list had received it, so I'm forwarding it on.  If you have received this, 
my apologies for sending it out again.

A.


 JOSEPH E. MOUREK , 93

CSO French hornist: `Music was his religion'

By Barbara Sherlock
Tribune staff reporter
October 22, 2003

Joseph E. Mourek so revered music that when he stopped publicly 
performing on the French horn after more than four decades, he never 
played again, afraid he might falter.

Bewitched by music's beauty, he often hummed to replace parts of his 
sentences--an upbeat piece expressing his happiness or a darker one to 
reflect he was feeling glum.

Formerly of Chicago, Mr. Mourek, 93, retired third and fourth horn with 
the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, died Saturday, Sept. 13, of heart disease 
in Manor Care Nursing Home in Hinsdale.

"Music was his religion, his whole life," said his nephew, Anthony Mourek.

The grandson of a violinist, Mr. Mourek at age 8 studied with violinist 
Vaclav Basta and composer Thorwold Otterstrom.

While attending Morton High School in Cicero, however, he was asked by 
his music teachers to fill the seat of French horn, beginning a devotion 
to his Conn horn that continued until his retirement from the symphony in 1976.

He performed with the Chicago Civic Orchestra from 1927 until 1929 when 
he was hired as assistant third horn for the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. 
He was promoted to its third horn the next year and moved to fourth horn 
a decade later.

"Unlike the string section in an orchestra where there are numerous 
violins or other string instruments playing one part, in the wind section 
one individual plays a single part," said Dale Clevenger, principal horn 
with the symphony.

"So it is a big responsibility and each position takes a certain 
temperament. Fourth horn doesn't have out-and-out big solos usually. Joe 
was a professional. He knew how to not call attention to himself when it 
was not necessary and you do that by playing well."

He was passionate about music, said his niece-in-law, Karole Mourek. "Joe 
was so oriented to music over language, he would use it as a language 
unto itself," she said. "He would start out a sentence on how happy he 
was, and then move right into musical notes. He was very articulate, but 
for him music had all the emotional dimensions that language lacked."

Compositions for his position in the symphony were from the Romantic 
repertoire of the 1800s, many written by Czech composers such as Dvorak 
that blended with his heritage as the son of Czech immigrants. He and his 
late wife, Jean, often attended Prague music festivals.

"When he retired he sold all of his horns and he never played again," 
said his nephew. "In many ways not performing was a great loss to him, 
but he felt he would not continue to be up to his own standards. He 
decided to retire while he could still play, then cut it off totally."

In retirement, as he had the rest of his life, however, he continuously 
listened to classical music. After entering the nursing home a few years 
ago, his most important possessions were his CDs and radio. Two years 
ago, he authored "Evolution of a Symphony Musician."

Other survivors include his sister, Ann Sebesta; and numerous other 
nieces and nephews.

A memorial service will be held at 11 a.m. Friday in Woodlawn Cemetery 
Chapel, 7600 Cermak Rd., Forest Park.

Copyright © 2003, Chicago Tribune



MOUREK, JOSEPH E.



Joseph E. Mourek, age 93, died on September 13, 2003 at Hinsdale’s Manor 
Care Nursing Home. Born January 5, 1910 in Chicago.  Beloved son of the 
late Anton & Anna (nee Prucha) Mourek and beloved husband of the late 
Jean (nee Masek).  Brother of Ann (Sebesta) and the late Anton, George, 
Otto and Elsie (Cermak).  He also had numerous nieces, nephews and grand 
nieces and nephews.



Joseph E. Mourek was a member of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra for 46 
years. He was encouraged in his early training by his mother whose 
father, Josef Prucha, a violinist, first came to Chicago to perform at 
the Columbian Exposition in 1893. At the age of eight Joseph began 
studying violin with Vaclav Basta and piano & theory with Thorwold 
Otterstrom. He took up the French Horn at the age of fourteen while 
attending Cicero’s Morton High School because that was the instrument 
they needed him to play. Joseph was an intense teenager who would spend 
hours at the Newberry Library copying rarely performed music by hand and 
then practicing it in the belief he might be asked to play it at an 
auditions. As a student in the Chicago Civic Orchestra (1927-1929) and 
trained with Bruno Jaenicke, CSO member Frank Kryl and Pellegrino Lecca. 
In 1929 CSO Music Director Frederick Stock hired this 19 year old from 
Cicero as assistant 3rd Horn.  Joseph became the CSO’s full-time 3rd Horn 
in 1930.  He taught at what was then a new music camp at Interlochen, 
Michigan during the summers o

Re: [Hornlist] L.A. Phil concert

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Well, for all his "flailing," (it was distracting, wasn't it?), Esa Pekka 
Salonen is a pretty popular conductor/composer...

Amy

At 04:27 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I watched some of the broadcast.  I did not enjoy the mix.  The balance just
didn't seem full and blended.  After watching the conductor conduct the end
of the Rite of Spring, it made me feel grateful that we did not have him
conducting when we performed it at our last concert.  Does he really feel
that all that flailing around makes it easy for the performers to play.
CORdially,
Luke Zyla
2nd horn, WV Symphony
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> Surprised there are no comments so far regarding the LA Phil's program on
> PBS last evening,i.e., the new hall,new music,conductor (new ???) and of
> course the musical performance. Believe I counted 8 horns at one point...I
> think the new venue will give classical music an exciting new forum.
Sixteen
> years in the planning,they said. Wow!
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[Hornlist] pan flute

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Ok, this is just too coincidental...I just opened an old book that had been 
transferred over to our branch of the library today, and what do I 
see???  Paintings of Pan playing the flute!

A.

would that be synchronicity---or just plain weirdness?

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[Hornlist] NHR--Einstein

[Amy Jo McBeth]

That was the joke.  The speaker, Theisman, was a football player...who 
apparently is no Einstein...Albert or "Norman"...

Amy

At 05:08 PM 10/23/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Who was Norman Einstein ? I know Albert Einstein, who was genius indeed.
Or Mozart, Wagner, Michelangelo, Goethe, Leonardo da Vinci, Hieronymus
Bosch, Mantegna, Rubens, ...
Hello David !
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"The word 'genius' isn't applicable to football. A genius is a guy like
Norman Einstein." Joe Theismann
Horn Professor Emeritus, Denver University www.du.edu/~dkaslow



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[Hornlist] NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 11:54 AM 10/22/2003 -0700, you wrote:

Wow.  Quick work to find an obscure reference.  Thanks
very much Amy.  You must be a librarian.


Technically, no.  I am a  staff  "library assistant" at the Rita Benton 
Music Library at the University of Iowa...I started library school, but at 
the time I entered, there were major upheavals at the Library School here, 
so I took about four classes and quit...I love questions like the one Peter 
posted...but if you want to get info from me in my official, 
para-professional capacity, please send questions off-list...our off-site 
reference question stats will really take off!

Amy

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[Hornlist] Re: Victorian Concert Orchestra

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Hi Peter,

I found a paragraph on this group in a book by Maude Hare, Negro Musicians 
and Their Music, published 1936 by The Assoc. Publishers, inc., Washington 
D.C.  Page 258.  No specifics on the players, but here's the paragraph.



A concert given by the Victorian Concert Orchestra in Boston in 
1933, served to call attention to this band of colored musicians which has 
existed for nearly 30 years.  In early 1906 the organization was founded by 
Charles H. Sullivan who until his death, 1933, was its faithful 
manager.  It rapidly grew under the directorship of Clarence Cameron White, 
who conducted the band for six years (beginning in 1914).  The orchestra 
continues to afford a medium for ensemble practice in the classics.



That was fun!  If I find more (quickly), I'll send it on.

Amy

 I'd particularly like to find information about
the orchestra (professional, educational, other?) and the identity of the
horn player.
Anyone?

Just call me curious, but lazy.

Peter Hirsch

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[Hornlist] NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

> Are you really free in your country ??? Patriot act ?
>


I have to go along with Hans on the "Patriot Act".

Amy

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RE: [Hornlist] something to think HR-Thomas Quasthoff

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Regarding Thomas Quasthoff...

At 10:45 PM 10/19/2003 +0200, you wrote:
He cannot perform in a staged opera due to his physical status.


Was he not in a staged version of Fidelio  this past year in Salzburg, or 
was that concerted?  I believe there was a concerted version in Berlin, but 
I thought I had read he was to be in a stage version in Salzburg.  Also, I 
believe he as been contracted to perform Amfortas in Parsifal in Berlin 
next year...

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Joseph Mourek

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Norman Schweikert wrote a short bio on Mr. Mourek on the occasion of the 
latter's retirement.  That biography may be found in Horn Call, vol. 6 no. 
1, 1975.  Thanks, Mick Sehmann, for the index!!

Amy

At 05:18 PM 10/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
In reading a book review by our own Paul Kampen, I learned that Mr. Mourek 
was a long-time member of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.  He published a 
memoir a couple of years ago entitled, "Evolution of a Symphony 
Musician".  His embouchure is one of those featured in Farkas's "Art of 
Brass Playing".

I'm sure there are others on the list who will have more info, but in the 
meantime, thanks, Paul!

Amy

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[Hornlist] Re: Joseph Mourek

[Amy Jo McBeth]

In reading a book review by our own Paul Kampen, I learned that Mr. Mourek 
was a long-time member of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra.  He published a 
memoir a couple of years ago entitled, "Evolution of a Symphony 
Musician".  His embouchure is one of those featured in Farkas's "Art of 
Brass Playing".

I'm sure there are others on the list who will have more info, but in the 
meantime, thanks, Paul!

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist]Re: Throwin' the high heat (NHR)

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Go Cubs. ;)

A.

At 03:46 PM 10/10/2003 -0400, you wrote:

Go Marlins

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RE: [Hornlist] Throwin' the high heat (NHR)

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Cubs vs. Red Soxit's a beautiful dream

Amy

At 03:36 PM 10/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:
I think that everyone who knows baseball history would believe this to be
unlikely, but I really hope (now that the A's are out) that the Red Sox and
the Cubs make it to the Series.  Both these teams deserve better than what
they've gotten the past 80 years or so.


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RE: [Hornlist] Horn repair??

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 12:51 PM 10/3/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Trust me I've tried, nobody here in the states has the gull to take a 
chance anymore.
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Or the..."Alabatross!"...

a.

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Re: [Hornlist] Oil troubles

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Don't new horns "come from the factory" with heavier weight lubricants?  If 
the problem is stickiness or sluggishness, perhaps this is the problem.

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Re: [Hornlist] Til we meet again

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I was waiting for that!

A.

At 01:35 PM 6/11/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Julio de la R wrote

Besides the concerts I could attend (most especially Frank Lloyd's), the
highlights of the symposium for me were meeting Mr. Bloom and spending a lot
of time (as luck would have it) alone with Mr. De Rosa and Mr. Stout and his
bride of 55 years. An interesting fact is that they had never met.

I would be even more interested to learn why Stout and his bride decided
to stay married without ever meeting, and why, after fifty-five years of
blissful separation, they decided to get together at a horn conference.
Gotta go,
Cabbage
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Re: [Hornlist] starting on horn

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I'm not sure why the director wouldn't consider the horn a "basic" 
instrument, but I too, started on the horn when I was 10.  I wonder if the 
director is uncomfortable teaching the instrument??  In any event, the only 
"ill effect" I had from starting at an early age was developing a life-long 
love of the sound of the horn!

Amy

At 06:21 PM 6/10/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Jenn Bennett asked:

My cousin is going into 4th grade and has the opportunity to start an 
instrument next year through her school. She thinks she wants to play the 
french horn but the music director only wants to start them on "basic" 
instruments ...If she really wants to play, should I argue with him 
further or is starting on a different instrument a better alternative?


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Re: [Hornlist] Eugene Damare question - NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 09:51 AM 4/4/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks, Amy!  That was fast!  I appreciate your help.
I really didn't want to drive for an hour to find
almost nothing about him.
Damare sounds like a good subject for somebody's
master's thesis.  The piccolo soloist has rearranged
the Polka for full orchestra, and she hopes to publish
it someday.  It still needs a little work (there are
almost no rests in the horn part), but it sounds
pretty good.
All in a day's work, ma'am.

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist] Eugene Damare question - NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

The Heritage Encyclopedia of Band Music

"The best known work of E. Damare, about whom little is known by band 
historians, is his cornet solo, Cleopatra Polka."

A short work list is included...

KNOWN WORKS
1.  Cleopatra Polka
a.  (Bovaco, arr. J.B. Claus) [as cornet solo]
b.  (Cundy, 1887, arr. J.B. Claus) [as cornet or piccolo solo]
2.  L'Elegante Polka, cornet or trombone solo (Fischer, 1914, arr. M.L. 
Lake)
3.  Pearl of Enghien Polka, cornet or piccolo solo (Fischer, 1907)
4.  La Tourterelle Polka, cornet or piccolo solo (Fischer, 1909, arr. 
W. Lewis)
5.  Wren Polka, piccolo solo (Kalmus)

Not much there, but hope that helps a little.  If I have more time later, 
I'll take a deeper look.

Amy

At 09:04 AM 4/4/2003 -0800, you wrote:
This is for all the librarians on the list.

I write the program notes for my community orchestra,
and our piccolo player is performing the
"Cleopatra-Fantasie Polka" by Eugene Damare on our
next concert.  Yes, that really is the name of the
piece.
I can't find anything about the composer, although I
suspect he was French and that this piece was
originally for brass band.  There's nothing in Groves
or the other common sources.  My friendly reference
librarian told me that there is an article about him
in a reference work called "Heritage Encyclopedia of
Band Music : Composers and Their Music."
Unfortunately, the closest library to me that has the
work is over an hour away.
Can any of you help me?

TIA,
Becky Cotton
Ft. Worth, Texas


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Re: [Hornlist] High School band

[Amy Jo McBeth]

If you're getting regular ensemble playing outside of your school, and have 
a good private teacher, you're probably doing fine.  I'd also join a 
community band if there's a decent one in your area so you become exposed 
to symphonic band literature, which you'll most likely be required to play 
in a college or university setting.  It would be a good idea to see if you 
can enter the state solo and ensemble contests, too (if you're not already 
doing this).  And while you're at it, maybe you can get together with some 
of your youth orchestra buddies and read quintet music (ww, brass).  I 
think a college or university instructor would excuse a certain amount of 
ensemble naivete if you come in with a strong audition.  If you poke around 
on the internet you can find audition requirements for a number of 
schools...Good Luck

A.

At 10:35 AM 3/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Hello horn list,
I am a high school horn player and I currently go to a
private school that does not have a band or any sort
of music group that I could play in.  I have recently
debated transfering to the public school system in my
town--which has one of the best music programs in the
country. I would really like the oppurtunity to play
in school, but I do play a lot outside of school (in
two youth orchestras, All State, etc.) I would like to
major in music and hopefully go pro. So here is my
question--Do you think it is worth transfering schools
in order to be in a better music program even though I
have a fair amount of experience outside of school?
Do colleges want to see that I was in a school band if
I want to major in music? I would aprecciate any
opinions or suggestions!
Thanks!
Kelly
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RE: [Hornlist] question NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Well, actually there has been the repeated use of the phrase "decapitating 
the regime" --- although I don't believe this is to be taken 
literally.  Also, I was just listening to the radio, and it is the 
administration's interpretation that SH, being the head of the military, is 
a legitimate target...

Amy

At 11:17 AM 3/20/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Dear Hans,

The President did not order the Delta Force to "kill" SH.  This is
exaggeration on the part of your media outlet.  Mention has been made in
a very recent press conference of surrender by SH and senior ministers
(or exhile) being very welcome by the Bush administration still.
Artillery is being fired now into Iraq and a selective missile strike
was sent to Baghdad.
I respect and appreciate your concern for all the troops and we all pray
for as bloodless a conflict as is now possible.
John Dutton

-Original Message-
From: Hans Pizka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2003 8:32
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Subject: [Hornlist] question NHR
Dear American friends, I have one important question today:

As we have head lines as "Kill him !" The president ordered his DELTA
force to kill pres S.H., I am asking, if that is true. I did not watch
all the speeches from pres. Bush in the TV as important they may be, so
I might have missed it or the press is exaggerating or lying as so
often. If pres. Bush has really ordered his special forces to kill the
president of a sovereign state  (not to talk here about a special air
strike, which is another question), it would really be a cowboy act
against any law, no question that S.H. is a criminal against humanity.
Ordering the killings of another head of state did not even happen in
the darkest era of fascist Germany. Capture S.H. by special forces,
kidnapping him (even questionable also; see the Eichmann case by the
Mossad), bringing S.H. to the International Tribunal, even then judging
him for capital punishment, well, that would (so, so) go with
international law.
Otherwise the above mentioned killing order would be a Mafia like
processing, even S.H. deserves the death for his criminal acts.
I thought that the US government would be real democratic. May-be a
false assumption.
Please respond, not discussing this issue, just inform me what is true.
Thank you. But be assured, I am thinking about the poor young guys in
the desert, on both sides performing no more than just their duty for
their respective country.
Let us hope, that this nightmare will be over very soon.

Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136
D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany
Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548
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Re: [Hornlist] question about Ligeti 6 Bagatelles

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I doubt if anyone is going to break up a sets of parts to sell only one, 
but good luck.

Amy

At 01:09 PM 3/17/2003 -0800, you wrote:
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 12:59, Luiza Raab wrote:
> I wanted to ask if anyone knows where I could order (buy) only a horn 
part for
> the "Six Bagatelles" by Ligeti. Thank you very much for any suggestions.
> Luiza

I'd suggest the Sheet Music Service of Portland
(www.sheetmusicservice.com or 1-800-452-1133).
They're closed on Mondays so you'll need to call them tomorrow.
Best,
Justin Fletcher
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Yamaha 861 horns

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I have a 668 (also from the 80s), and my slides don't seem to be pulled out 
all that far.  It probably wouldn't be a bad idea just to sit with a tuner 
for awhile (preferably with someone else looking at it) and see if 
everything's lining up.  It could just be the horn for that matter.

Amy in Iowa City

At 08:51 AM 3/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I wonder about a related topic concerning the valve tuning slides of my
Yamaha 668n (older model, probably from early 1980's).
My typical tuning-slide arrangement is with the main (Bb) and F tuning
slides pulled quite far, but the slides for the individual valves are
pulled very little.
Perhaps I don't really have the slides set properly or I am not playing
properly, BUT does anyone else have this situation on their horn?
BTW, the horn plays ok this way, and I generally don't get any unwanted
attention when playing at the 'fresh vegetable festival'.
Just Curious,
Jay Kosta
Endwell NY USA

At 08:23 PM 2/28/2003 EST,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Holton horns are tuned to A=446 with no hand in the bell, and the tuning
>slides pushed in all the way.
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Re: [Hornlist] Re:First lesson

[Amy Jo McBeth]

I knew I'd get static for that.  That's why I said "roughly"...

A.

At 08:07 PM 2/24/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>
> One of my teachers suggested telling the student to say the letter "M" to
> get a good visual.  From there show them where to set the mouthpiece
> (roughly 2/3 upper, 1/3 lower), and try to buzz, holding the M shape on the
> lips...
>
> a.
Hi folks,
I think the M thing is helpful, but once and for all can we put this 2/3
upper and 1/3 lower thing to rest. This ratio is merely a coincidental
result of good placement for many people but it means NOTHING. There are so
many ways that you can have a bad embouchure with this ratio that I think we
should just not use this terminology any more. Think about it. You can have
your lower lip rolled over your teeth and have this ratio. You can be
setting way into either lip and have this ratio, depending on the shape of
your lips. You can be playing with lips tucked under or protruding in any
number of odd ways with this ratio. It is merely descriptive, not
instructive.
Otherwise I hope everyone is having a great new year. See you at
Bloomington. Hey, maybe I'll bring this up at the annual meeting!
--
Wendell Rider
"Real World Horn Playing" is here, see
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Re: [Hornlist] First lesson

[Amy Jo McBeth]

One of my teachers suggested telling the student to say the letter "M" to 
get a good visual.  From there show them where to set the mouthpiece 
(roughly 2/3 upper, 1/3 lower), and try to buzz, holding the M shape on the 
lips...

a.

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Re: [Hornlist] NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Thank you for the kind offer, but we think it's now been figured out.  One 
of our faculty members was a professional accompanist/vocal coach for years 
in Switzerland, and she tells us it's "faux Schubert" with a folk song 
text.  Something mutated from the op. post.

best wishes,
Amy

At 10:30 PM 2/19/2003 +, you wrote:
Send me a MP3 file & I will try to find out. I remember the production but 
not the song.
.........

"Amy Jo McBeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Ok, I work in a music library and we're trying to track down something.  A
> patron is trying to find out what song is sung at the end of the 
television
> series "Zweite Heimat".  In the scene, the characters start singing a song
> in imitation of conservatory students, so he believes it is from the
> classical Lied repertory.  We've had various people listen to the tape he
> provided (which he made from the TV), and we've gone through numerous song
> indexes.  Our folks think it is a folk song.  One of our voice faculty 
(who
> is fluent in German and spent many years singing in Europe) believes it is
> a folk song.  The first line of text is roughly translated as, "The sun
> shines so cold, so cold.  And flowers fade and life grows old..."
> Does anyone remember having seen this series and what that song might be?
>
> Amy (looking for a needle in a haystack)
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(instruments, mouthpieces)
www.pizka.de/PizWrHorn.htm (Viennese Horns) - www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm 
(mouthpieces)
www.pizka.de/Pizka-travel.htm (pictures, stories, experiences from my 
travel) - open soon

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Re: [Hornlist] NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Thanks to those sending me that link.  I had already found it and sent it 
on to the patron... I don't think it answered his question, though.

A.

At 03:29 PM 2/19/2003 -0500, you wrote:
 http://reinder.rustema.nl/heimat/music.html";>Die Zweite Heimat 
- Music
I hope that this helps...

Mike Scheimer, Pittsburgh
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[Hornlist] NHR

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Ok, I work in a music library and we're trying to track down something.  A 
patron is trying to find out what song is sung at the end of the television 
series "Zweite Heimat".  In the scene, the characters start singing a song 
in imitation of conservatory students, so he believes it is from the 
classical Lied repertory.  We've had various people listen to the tape he 
provided (which he made from the TV), and we've gone through numerous song 
indexes.  Our folks think it is a folk song.  One of our voice faculty (who 
is fluent in German and spent many years singing in Europe) believes it is 
a folk song.  The first line of text is roughly translated as, "The sun 
shines so cold, so cold.  And flowers fade and life grows old..."
Does anyone remember having seen this series and what that song might be?

Amy (looking for a needle in a haystack)

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Re: [Hornlist] Prof. Pizka

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Sorry, meant to send that directly to Herr Pizka!...

A.

At 10:39 AM 2/17/2003 -0600, you wrote:

Hello Professor,

I received the music this weekend.  Many thanks for your very prompt 
action on my order!  Kristin and I are having a wonderful time reading 
through this material.

Best wishes,
Amy McBeth

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Re: [Hornlist] Prof. Pizka

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Hello Professor,

I received the music this weekend.  Many thanks for your very prompt action 
on my order!  Kristin and I are having a wonderful time reading through 
this material.

Best wishes,
Amy McBeth

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Re: [Hornlist] NHR: war-related "polls"

[Amy Jo McBeth]

 Whenever I hear about ANY poll I have to wonder...how many people were 
questioned?  how were the questions worded?  geographically, where are 
these people who were asked?  I know I've never been questioned by any poll 
taker on this...

Amy

Now all we hear is that 70% favors our going to war, (and quickly,they 
say).  This administration is downright scary in its power and 
arrogance,and I've been around quite awhile. Their actions are "not in my 
name" or that of most of my colleagues and friends.  Anne



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Re: [Hornlist] Deployment

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Keep safe, Myra.

A.


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Re: [Hornlist] crooks without horns

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Or was the quote: "I had not (left) (my) socks with that woman."


Heavens, he wasn't talking about their cat named, "Socks," was he...

A.

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Re: [Hornlist] NHR Europeans

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 04:27 PM 2/6/2003 +, you wrote:

Dear friends in the US,

has your (?) defense minister, Mr.D.Rumsfeld, gone crazy ?
--
Prof.Hans Pizka


As far as I can tell, he is an insane war monger...

Amy M.

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RE: [Hornlist] Trick question

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Fred wrote:

At 10:57 AM 1/13/2003 -0800, you wrote:

Okkk...now can we get back to the weather in Iowa?

Sure thing. It's cold today with a chance of flurries ;)

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist] very warm in Iowa

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Yep, it's blowing in today.

A.

At 06:33 PM 1/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Hate to say it but it is only a minor warm period in the winter.

You guys should be returning to average or below average very very soon :)

-William

In a message dated 1/9/2003 3:16:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Subj:Re: [Hornlist] very warm in Iowa
> Date:1/9/2003 3:16:54 PM Pacific Standard Time
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>
>
>
> Québec Montréal Canada
>
> Only -2  Celcius during the day and - 7 during the night
> The winter is not there...
>
> Few years ago -40, -37 was the temperature for January
>
> So temperature is changing, and in Québec Canada
> we have now ... no winter, a little bit of snow ...
> and freezing rain ...
>
> François
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> >To: The Horn List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"The Horn List"
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> >Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 15:25:49 -0600
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> >We're having freakishly warm weather today.  65 degrees Fahrenheit...
> >I guess the snow is coming in March this year!
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Re: [Hornlist] very warm in Iowa

[Amy Jo McBeth]

We're having freakishly warm weather today.  65 degrees Fahrenheit...
I guess the snow is coming in March this year!

Amy
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[Hornlist] Hornseth Music Co.

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Does anyone have information on Hornseth Music Co.?  The company was active
in the late ''70s and publishing out of Washington D.C.

Amy

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[Hornlist] (no subject)

[Amy Jo McBeth]

--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Ted Turner aside, there are real differences in pronunciation in this
country.  Sometimes only a few hundred miles can make a difference in the
sound of a given word.  Add to that the influence of schooling and how
someone in one of the sound media thinks a word should be pronounced, well,
... but I'm sure this happens in Germanic speaking countries as well ;)

A.



>Merry Christmas
>Hans
>
>When I listen to the CNN speakers & notice their pronounciation of your
>language, I would like to stop them speaking with their "idiotic"  much too
>daaark  "a" like in Wor (war), Eeron (Iran), Eerok (Irak), Ostreejah
>(Austria), perhaps Oleksondah (Alexander), Poksmohn, @tsetra. Can anyone
>tell me, why we allow,-you on the other side of the Atlantik (perhaps
>Ot-lonteeck) & we here in Europe-, that the English language is perverted so
>much, by Richard Quest & Christiane Amonpour & others ? This TV station (if
>you travel, you often have no other choice) acts like "the voice of
>America", but sound as the voice of Kangaroo.

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Re: [Hornlist] "funny" things happen

[Amy Jo McBeth]

 Most of the "unsubscribe" instructions are used just to verify
that your address is valid so they can hit you with more junk e-mail.


Our IT folks advise us not to respond to the "unsubscribe" messages for the
above reason, so I never do.  I just delete and hope they give up eventually...
This is the only newsletter group I'm on, so I'm not sure how I ended up on
a porn list...

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist] "funny" things happen

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 10:28 AM 12/16/2002 -0600, you wrote:

The real fun is when the kid porn scum steals you e-mail address and uses
it.


I've been getting a fair number of the above recently.  Has anyone else on
the list been getting these horrendous communications?

I just wonder what site I could have hit that would have put me on such a
list??

Amy

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[Hornlist] Re: Stolen horn(s) recovered!

[Amy Jo McBeth]

You'll all be glad to hear that my friend whose horn was stolen last week
was reunited with it!! Quick action by the UI campus police (and the good
thoughts of everyone on the list, no doubt), lead to the recovery at a pawn
shop about 20 miles from us.  Another horn (a Conn stolen earlier in the
year, belonging to a student here), and another instrument were also
recovered with his horn.  The thief is being charged with 3 counts of
felony grand theft.

My friend, Steve, expresses his thanks to everyone on the list for all the
great support.

Amy in Iowa City

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Re: [Hornlist] *Bozza*

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Your library must have a subscription to Music Index for you to get into it
online.  Perhaps they have a paper or CD-rom subscription, if not the online?

Amy

At 10:31 PM 12/10/2002 -0800, you wrote:

 thank you for all your information and some helped. I
will have to admit that our library is very lacking
and only had three sources (not counting his scores)
on him in the entire library (and yes I did ask the
librarian). Also could anybody tell me how to get on
music index online because it wouldnt let me, or am I
not supposed to get on?

joseph

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Re: [Hornlist] Another musician?

[Amy Jo McBeth]

oh my God, is she really 30 inches long?!!

At 05:24 PM 12/9/2002 -0500, you wrote:


   *Congratulations are in order**

   Lucy Kay Betts, newest member of the Kendall and Anna Betts family,
arrived at 12:16 A.M. Sunday morning, December 1st, weighing in at a healthy
8 pounds 1oz.  She's 30 3/4 inches long and doing great.





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[Hornlist] stolen horn

[Amy Jo McBeth]

The serial number on my friend's stolen Holton H105 is 676447.  Again, it
is rose brass with detachable bell.  Stolen in its black leather Reunion
Blues cutbell gig bag.  Mouthpiece and Dubuque Symphony music, along with a
gig book were in the bag.

If anyone should see anything come up on E-Bay (or anywhere else) that
matches this description, please let me know.

Thank you.
Amy

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[Hornlist] Re: Stolen horn

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Bad news!

A friend of mine JUST had his horn stolen from a practice room at the
University of Iowa, Iowa City.  I don't have all the details, but here's
what I know.

Holton 105
rose brass
detachable bell

in a black leather Reunion blues gig bag

a mouthpiece and music for the Dubuque Symphony were also in the bag

I'll get the serial number out when he sends me the information.  If anyone
in this or a surrounding state sees this horn, let me know.

Amy

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Re: [Hornlist] Flying w/Horn(s)

[Amy Jo McBeth]

At 01:43 AM 11/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Hornists, Have not commented on many good subjects lately. However, I now
must caution all about stowing Horn in soft case under airline seat. Most
coach class seats are quite flimsy. On one of my trips the Horn fit nicely
under the sea in front of me (remember, that usually is the ONLY place you
can stow under a seat). As I relaxed I glanced up & in horror watched a very
heavy person heave self into the seat.



This is why I've stuck the horn under my own seat with the flare coming out
under my legs.  That remark would look really odd to someone who didn't
know what we are talking about...

Amy


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Re: [Hornlist] flying horns

[Amy Jo McBeth]

Insisting that a soft case will fit under the seat has always been enough
for me.  If you say it with confidence, like you've done it scores of times
before, you're believed and no one asks twice.

A.

At 02:58 PM 11/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Hi - I'm sure this topic has been covered in excruciating detail in the
past, but I'm a very occasional reader and would appreciate advice on this.

When flying domestically:  if one goes to the airport with a horn in a soft
case and one is not allowed to carry in on and/or put in under their seat,
what happens to it?  Will the steward/ess put it in a safe place in the
cabin?  Or is "one" "screwed"?  On the other hand, if you take it in a hard
case, is it automatically doomed to go in with the baggage?  What do people
recommend?

Thank you.
Priscilla Douglas


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