Re: [Hornlist] Le Chasseur Maudit
This is an introspective musical piece with four very important horn parts. It open with the horns playing horn calls and echos. Later is some wery effective unison horn calls. Chambers Orchestral excerpts Volume III has all of the important parts. The Allegro Vivace section which is in the gallop (dotted eighth, sixteenth,sighth rhythm) can be daunting due to its endurance. A great piece. Played it many times. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: AW: [Hornlist] Re: Confusing transposition
To my knowledge, in :Il Re Pastori there are two arias. The first (in C minor) with two horns in E flat and two horns in C. After the recitative there is another aria ( in C major ) with 4 horns in C. This is in the second act of the opera. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Frehse Concerto #1
I have had several requests for the Frehse Concerto. I am happy to send e mail copies of the 1911 copy from my library. The reprint in 1952 was from a East German publisher (VEB Hofmeister - Leipzig). Thus both the original publication and the reprint are not copyright protected. I should point out that the original publication was very poor in print quality made from hand drafted lithograph plates. I have cleaned up the quality of the image, in particular the text. Also the work was written in three connected movements. However there are obvious ends to each movement which I have indicated, so the transitions to the next movement can be disregarded. That means those who want to play a single movement (of about 5 and 1/2 minutes in length) are able to do so. This information is from the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 edition, available on CD ROM from Brass Arts Unlimited. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Albin Frehse (1878-1973) (Richard V. West)
The Alban Frehse, Horn Konzert, exists (in the US) in the horn and piano arrangement published by Friedrich Hofmeister, Leipzig (1911), and reprinted by VEB Hofmeister, Frankfurt am Main (1952). The piano arrangement is not credited, I do not believe that Frehse made it. Possibly William Kruger, the solo hornist in the Leipzig Gewandhaus orchestra (for whom the concerto was written) did the arrangement. If you are interested in playing the work, (it sounds like a Kopprasch etude) and cannot obtain a copy of the concerto, contact me at dalle...@bellsouth.net and I will arrange to e-mail you a copy of the 1911 edition. Note the work is in public domain, and was never copyrighted in the 1911. The 1952 printing is probably protected under the general copyright rules, even though the required copyright notification is missing from the publication. This information is from the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition. Regards ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 77, Issue 5
That is true. The composition is in B flat. The horn goes to high D, I think three times. The vinyl, typical of the practice in that era, was produced from a tape master that was sped up to inprone the 'brightness' of the recording. If you look at the vidio of the recording studio you can see the fingerings that the horn player used, which confirms the original pitches of the notes he played. Regards ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] NHR - Beethoven factoid?
During Beethoven's lifetime, I suspect I was an expensive commodity. Mechanical refrigeration had not yet been invented, so most ice was harvested during the winter and stored in insulated "ice houses". Thus I think the factoid may be inaccurate. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn duets with band?
The Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD ROM lists 9 pieces for two horns and band. One is an American arrangement of an opera duet, published by Cundy-Bettoney (now long out of print). The others are local German publications, which would take some digging to locate their addresses. The only one of interest to me is a Concerto for Two Horns by August Henselt, in an arrangenet for band accompaniment of a 19th century composition. Alas I have not inspected any of these publications. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] THE FRENCH HORN ; SOME NOTES ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE INSTRUMENT AND OF ITS TECHNIQUE
Morley-Pegge was a horn player (Student of Bremond) and musical historian, published his book "The French Horn" in 1960. It is comprehensive and well illustrated, at least the first edition, which is in my library. For those seriously interested in the horn, this book- plus those by Robin Gregory, Horace Fitzpatrick, Bernhard Bruchle and Birchard Coar should be in their library. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] First horn part to "3 duos Concertant" by Antonon Clapission
Naybody happen to have the first horn part. I have the second part, However the usual library sources, including the Library of Congressm does not. A copy by e mail would be appreciated. Thanks ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Bb slides on top
Referring to an old Sansone catalogue (1952); He marketed many different horn models. His design with the B flat slides on top of the F slides was his Model #5. The model that was the copy of the Conn 8D was his model # 5C. His copy of the Schmidt double with the piston change valve was his model 5S. And his FEBA 5 valve double horn based on his model 5 was his model 6. I suspect that few, and possibly one one horn was made of the Models 5C, 5S and 6. I saw the Model 6 in his shop when I visited him in the early 50's. It was a very heavy horn. Might have weighed 7 pounds. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Die Rosenfee
Good research. Thanks. You are fortunate to have had access to the score. I comclude that Gumpert is the culprit. But why Schumann when operas by Halevy are included in other volumes of Gumpert's Orchestral Excerpts? Well, we can always blame someone else, perhaps the printer. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven quintet in E flat
The Schott publication is an arrangement by Willy Hess. The first 157 measures of the original manuscript are lost, as is the trio section of the minuet and the entire last movement. Hess recreated the first 157 measures using music from the portions of the original manuscript that survive. Although I would agree with his musical creativity, he did not understand completely the abilities and limitations of the hand horn technique in Beethoven's time. Thus some of the pitches he wrote for the three horn parts are uncharacteristic and in places almost impossible to perform on the hand horn. I have "reverse composed" the Hess arrangement and reassigned the parts so that they are better suited to the hand horn. If you would be interested in this "re-arrangement" contact me at dalle...@bellsouth.net because I publish it under the Cornucopia lable. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Die Rosenfee
The Excerpt "Der Rosenfee" (Pink Fairy) first appeared in Gumbert Orchestral Excerpts - Volume 1. Pottag obviously copied into his own volumes of orchestral excerpts. Note the orientation, measure layout and fonts are identical. Now for the hard part. I cannot associate it to any of Schumann's works without undertaking a melody to melody search of all of Schumann's piano, operatic and vocal works. There is no match by title to his songs or piano pieces. My hunch is that it is an operatic aria, transcribed for horn, something that Gumbert did frequently. Also I suppose I should be using his correct name of Gumpert, not Gumbert as published, according to "The Horn Call". Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Heinichen question
Heinichen Concerto has a range from middle C to D above high C. It is Published by Editions Kunzelmann, Zurich or Edition Robert Oestermeyer, Leipzig. According to the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] More fiddle tunes
Knew Gordon Mumma from high school days (Ferndale Michigan) and College (University of Michigan). A good horn player, he moved into avant guarde music in college. His music "Hornpipe" was originally scored for solo horn, but played with a bassoon reed. Unusual, to say the least, and only modestly recognised. His later association with the Merse Cunningham Dance Company gained him international recognition. Now, s I understand, he is composing entirely electronic media. Regards. Also seasons greetings. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40
I agree with the horn list. Brahms intended it to be for waldhorn (without valves), violin and piano. Brahms played the piano part in the premiere and in many recitals later on. The piano part is massive and difficult, after all Brahms was an awsome piano virtuoso. The waldhorn suits the character of the trio because it better balances with the violin, sometines when the violin is below the horn. The added parts for viola and cello are a publishers' choice, but I suspect that Brahms was aware of it, probably approved of it, and might have written the alternate parts himself. Consider, for instance, that there are significant differences between the horn part and the string parts. The string parts have added notes that are not in the horn part, but more interesting is that only one of the added passages is shown as cue notes in the horn part in the Simrock, and later editions. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Konzertstuck by Schumann
I regret that I cannot cite the sources specifically. but, to the best of my knowledge 1. Schumann did write the Koncertstucj for 4 solo valve horns. The Orchestra parts are in F and are modest in nature and easily playable on either chromatic horns or natural horns, as was the character of Schuman's writing for his solo concertos. 2. The primiere the first horn soloist did play the part on a natural horn, and the other three played valve horns. With a little digging you can find the information in the Allgemeine Musikalischer Zeitung (sic). Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, Part 2
In my opinion Dvorak wrote for valve horns, just as Brahms did. But he chose transpositions for horns for several reasons: 1. was to eliminate accidentals if the part had been written in F. Wagner specifically spoke to this, I believe in one of his letters. 2. to infer relationships with the pairs of horns to the other instruments in the orchestra. Note that in the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th symphonies Dvorak scored the first two horns in higher transpositions and scored then with the winds (frequently), and scored the second two horns in lower transpositions ad scored them with the brass and lower strings (frequently), of course with notable exceptions. I played the solo for Piatagorsky and Nelsova as well as my mother (an excellent cellist), and my sister (also an excellent cellist).I played it several times at Interlochen with high school soloists that I can no longer remember, and later with two community orchestras with their first chair cellists as soloists. As to when valve horns were written for, I will have to look it up, but I think it was as early as 1824. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo
I have played the first hotrn part in the Dvorak "Cello Concerto" many times. Horns 1 and 2 are in E (with portions of the second movement in D and in F), and the third horn is in D in the first movement, in D and C in the second movement and in E and D in the third movement. The long horn solo beginning at measure 56 in the first movement needs to be in the style that the cellist will play it. By the way all three horn parts are very prominent throughout this concerto. and the third horn has several very prominant horn solos. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:David Matthews:Capriccio
Although I have not seen the music, The Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition lists this work as two horns and string orchestra. By the way the piece is a homage to Dennis Brain. The first horn has sxtensive melodic parts. the second horn has what I would call as a supportive role, lots of bass register, and harmonic counterpoint. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Duets for English horn & French horn
Duets for English Horn, and Horn, possibly with piano or organ. The Dallry Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition lists absolutely nothing for the combination. Best guess as an alternatative are horn duets where one part is quite high. The Mozart 12 duets come to mind. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bruch Violin Concerto #1
Dear Horn List: Am in need of the first horn part to Max Bruch, Violin Concerto #1, Op. 26. Would appreciate if copy could be e-mailed. Perhaps in GIF ir TIF file format. Please contact personally> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards. Nielsen S. Dalley ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] NHR - Loose cannon
So true. My brother, John Dalley - a violinist tells the story about when he was a student at Curtis. He and the other students would often job at local symphony orchestras. One evening, when John was sitting as concertmaster, the orchestra was playing Saint-Saens "Carnival of the Animals" One section, entitled "Donkeys" consists of the violin sections playing in sucession a loud high E harmonic followewd by two slower notes in lower register. The phrase is repeated many times alternating between the first violins and then the second violins. Once there came the most awful scraping noise from one of the violinists in the rear of the section when the high E harmonic was to be played. John couldn't turn around, that would be upsetting. But he looked across at the first cellist who was doubled over with laughter. It turned out that the violinist got so enthusiastic about playing those loud High E's with a fast bow stroke, that instead of placing the bow on the string, the bow was pushed between the strings. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Piccolo Furst Pless with valves
What an increase in price. I bought mine in Germany in 1977 from Waffen Franconia (Hunting supplies) in Wurzburg for about $40.00. If you want to use mine for a while, say a year or three, let me know and I will sent it to you. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: RIP Jonell Lindholm
Knew Jonell Lindholm for many years when she was in Michigan. She was a member of the Washtenaw Valley Waldhorn Verein, and a member of the Ann Arbor Symphony. She wwill be missed. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Peter and the Wolf
Not omly does "Peter and the Wolf" have three horn parts, they are prominant. The narrator announces the three as representing the Wolf. So there are some important passanges for all three in three part harmony (In D minor, I believe). Also the second horn part has a couple of very low bass register notes (Low A and low G#, bottom space and bottom line in modern style bass clef). All in all an enjoyable piece to play. Those who get a chance to play one of the parts are in for a good time, and lots of recognition. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:What Is This?
It is a tenor horn, somewhat like a Baritone Horn but with upright bell. Common in Europe. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Hrn/Vln Duo?
Not many pieces listed in the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD. Of the 12 listed items only 10 are currently available. Most are published privately by their composers. One in particular is Richard Burdick - Grand Duo, Regina Sask., Canada. Wiener Waldhorn Verein in their catalogue list three ( Kienzl, Haydn, and Haslinger). Published works besides Alec Wilder - 3 Pieces, I recommend Douglas Hill - Elegie. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: for no one
Jasper Rees in his recent book "I Found My Horn" discusses this Beatles tune, and Alan Civil (who recorded the horn part). It apparently goes up to high E. However the tape was sped up when making the transfer to disk, which makes it sound like high F. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Welsh horn Music
Best known Welsh composer is Alun Hoddinut. He composed a Concerto, a Sonata and a piece for horn and strings "Aubade and Scherzo". All are published (in Horn and Piano) by Oxford. This is according to the Dalley Horn Datalogue - 2006 Edition on CD ROM. Also consider William Mathias, Concerto, also published by Oxford. Danial Jones, another Welsh composer has not written any solo works for horn that I know about, but has written an interestin Wind Quintet "Divertimento" published by Music Masters, Pensacola, Florida. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Amram Horn Concerto
According to the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD ROM the answer for the Horn Concerto (1965) was written for horn and orchestra, and then arranged by the composer for horn and winds () and then again by the composer for horn and piano. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Bass clef notation
I cannot say for sure why early bass clef notation was an octave too low. In my reading about the history of the horn I do not recall any discussion on the subject. In my opinion I think that the use of the "old style" notation occurred originally to notate C below middle C without using many leder lines. Low C probably was, in the beginning, the only low note the horn player encounted. So the bass clef symbol became a signal to the player that it was in fact a low note. Only later did composers and players add additional notes in the low range and used the old style bass clef, because it was now familiar to horn players. By the time of Dauprat and Duvernoy the use of the old style bass clef contained notes from Padal E to as high as B flat (third line treble clef), probably because it was easier to write the entire passage in the old style bass clef than to shift back and fourth to the treble clef. Other instrument with unusual use of clef include the cello, which for many years wrote high passages in the treble clef, but an octave too high. String bass traditionally uses the bass clef, but with the notation an octave higher than sounding. This is a carry over from the early times when the celli and bassi were notated on one staff, but intended to play in octaves. Piccolo, of course is notated an octave below actual sounds, all in the treble clef. Bass Clarinet notated in the treble clef (but sounding an octave lower) may be a more recent concept and probably based on use of the identical fingering from the clarinet. And that, of course is also seen in brass band publications from Europe where treble clef is used for parts for tenor horns, baritones, euphoniums, and tubas. Identical fingerings for identical note simplified classroom teaching of these instruments. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Famous Muted Passages
There are so many really interesting muted passages, almost too many to list. One thing about muted ( versus stopped ) passages is the style, or image that the passage evokes. For instance - Ominous, could be the muted passage in Sorcers Apprentice - Dukas. Reverse echo, could be the muted passage in Symphony of a French Mountain Air - d'Indy, where the muted passage is louder than the open passage played immediately before. Lyric, how about the high muted passage in Daphnis & Chloe - Ravel. Change in sounds, The interesting passage in Afternoon of a Faun - Debussy where the horn plays the same note three times, first stopped, them muted then open, all in one measure. Humorous, How about Old American Songs - Copland with the difficult muted sections in "I Bought Me a Cat". The list goes on and on. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Counting rests
I agree with the difficulties of counting extended rests, especially in classical concertos. I ended up writing out my own horn part and then adding extensive cues, entrances by other instruments, measure numbers, and then on "throw away" copies add the interpetations by the conductor and soloist. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Counting rests
My teacher recommended that the easiest way to count those long rest passages is to count backwards. When you reach "one" you know it is time to play. regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Pines of Rome
It is interesting that your music librarian gave you the original flicorno parts and not the transposed parts. These were published by G Riccordi. Printed as separate parts are Horns V and VI which are the transposed Flicorni Tenore B flat original parts. Also printed as a cue line in Hornas I thru IV are the transposed parts for the Flicorni contralto 1 and 2, and Flicorni Alto 1 and 2. If you would like these transposed parts contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will e-mail them to you in GIF or TIFF format. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Copies of Woodwind World
A lister was asking about obtaining early copies of "Woodwind World" I located my copies of the five issues from 1959 and four of the five issues from 1960. Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Flanders and Swann
The "Ill Wind" To Mozart Third Horn Concerto - last movement is the only music related parody I know of by them. I believe that they made three LP recordings. All of them very funny. Good Baritone singer and good pianist. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Seeking quartet w/ orchestra piece.
I believe the work is the Concerto for 4 Horns and orchestra by Heinrich Hubler. Music available from KaWe (which was acquired by and available from Hans Pizka). I believe he has for sale versions for horns and piano, and for horns and orchestra. Hubler, by the way was a valve horn player and read through the work in 1849, which was before the premier performance in 1850. Comparing the two works it is reasonable to presume that Hubler would have made the comment you refer to. This information is from the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Happy Blues
Alas, the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition does not list the piece. I suspect that it might be a movement of a larger work or from a collection of pieces. But I do not know what it might be. There is a similar piece called Happy Song by Siennicke, published by Ludwig, for horn and keyboard/piano. I note that there is an alternate solo part for every band instrument, from flute to tuba. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Bach Partita BWV 825
I am not sure which partita you are interested since I am not familiar with all of the BWV listings. I presume that 825 are the solo violin partitas. Most familiar is #6 in E major which I believe is published in an edition for solo horn. #1 in g minor I am not sure. As a last resort, obtain the violin part and transpose, probably down a fifth. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Strauss Till Eulenspiegel Horns 5-8
Strauss wrote the horns 5 thru 8 to reinforce passages in two places 1. in the "Inquisition" scene, where the horns reinforce the string parts, and 2 at the final several bars of the piece. When our orchestra was lucky enough to have the extra four parts played, we had then also serve as assistants to the horns 1 thru 4. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Forgotten Gems
Duo Concertante, Opus 10 (probably 1840-1950) by Otto Bach. Completely unknown. I found a published copy in the New York Library and have resurrected it and published it in a new edition. 12 minutes, range from pedal G to high C. Very much in the style of Schumann. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] orchestral Sousa
Of interest on Sousa score. The University of Michigan Music Library has a photographic copy of Sousa's original draft of "The Stars and Stripes" march. It is for band but with parts for violins (2) violas, celli and bass written in the bottom five staves of the score. It is in D major. The horn parts are Horns 1 and 2 in F and Horn 3 and 4 in D. Sousa's use of horns in D probably relates to his composing period when he wrote operas, at least six of them, I think. Horn parts in D were scored extensively. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Fingering
My horn, a Paxman model GT, is a CBA+ single horn with an F extension valve. Generally I play it in C all the time. Interestingly it makes the alternate fingerings for pitches below C (second space in the bass clef) more in tune than the Sansone fingerings for the B flat horn for the same pitches. Because the A+ valve can be set to a half step, it makes playing in 6 and 7 flats easy on the C horn, and 6 or 6 sharps easy on the B flat horn. Great for pit work. The sound has the same brightness as the B flat horn, but is easy to play on long endurance shows. Just finished a 30 show run of "Oliver" which consisted of two hours and ten minutes of playing plus a 15 minute intermission. Was able to survive even at my age (73). Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom
Alas, Yes. The original "Auf dem Strom" calls for horn in E. However there are versions with the work transcribed down a half step to E Flat, and down a whole step to the key of D. And I have heard of an arrangement in the Key of C, to accomodate a low voice. Thus I would not be surprised if a recording has been made in one of the lower keys. That reminds me, based on the text it seems natural that the voice should be a tenor. However recordings by sopranos, anr known. Margo Stagliano, for instance. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] 2nd horn solo in Beethoven 7
The bore of modern horns is about 12 mm. Examples of 19th century hand horns have had bores of 10 mm and even 9mm. When you play one of these you are surprised how flexible they are especially in the lower register. Of course the effect is diminished if played using a modern mouthpiece having a cup shape. Mouthpieces back then were more often tapered. I believe examples are shown in the Dauprat Horn Method. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: offlist-[Hornlist] 2nd horn solo in Beethoven 7
I tend to aggree. The scoring indicates that Beethoven inted the note F# to be lipped down from the G above it. On narrow bore natural horns in use in Beethoven's time the efferct was easy to produce without any diminishment of tone. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street
Thanks Walter Lewis. I still play the Paxman GT. It is a great machine and easy blowing which makes it good for pit work. I have played "Fiddler" many times including with the original old hand written copied part, and with the newer printed part. But even the new part needed lots of editing, especially voice cues. I have also played "Joseph - Technicolor" and agree that it is tough, especially all those high "C's" with no help from anyone else. Would love to play "Cats". If I get stuck in a one horn situation perhaps I could contact you and get tips on consolidating the parts. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street
I have found playing in the pit is fun and builds endurance. I am in the middle of a 30 show run of "Oliver" at our local theater group in Gainesville, Florida. The part is challanging because only a small ensemble is playing and I have to play the horn 1 or 2 part and also play parts of Trombone 1, Bassoon, Cello, and Trumpet 2. My part has a lot of paste up inserts in it. So it ends up with two hours of pretty steady playing iusing three mutes and stopped horn. And the range is from G, bottom line of bass clef staff to high C (fortunately only one note). Love it. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Japanese Horn Quartet Music
Alas. The Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD does not list any horn quartets by Japanese composers, or horn quartets on Japanese folk melodies. The only thing that comes to mind would be a quartet arrangement of music from "Madam Butterfly". But again I am not aware of any published quartets. Making an arrangement from sheet music would be a good project. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] A Question for Lawrence Yates
We noticed the jacket photo of Alexander McCall Smith with a Tuba, even though he actually playes bassoon. Smith's books, by the way are excellent reading. His series of books about "The No. 1 Ladies Dectective Agency, (in Botswana) has a "rhythm" to the text that is symbolic of the native languages in Africa. And are obviously a reflection of Smith's musical background. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Malcolm Arnold Concerto
Available from Alfred Lengnick(sp?), London. through Mills music, New York. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:horn player in old movie
.My guess id John Graas. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Music Trivia
Interestingly Yamaha makes brass instruments, grand pianos, and 200,000 ton petrolium carrying ships, and skis. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register
I was taught to take advantage of the alternate fingering possibilities of both the F and B flat sides of the standard double horn. And depending how you tune the 3rd valve slides of both horns can have a lot of influence on which fingering to use. I personally tune the third valve slide of the B flat side of the horn flat by pulling the slide a little more than 1/4 inch below correct intonation. Then low D (third line in modern style bass clef) and low C# (second space in modern style bass clef) are exactly in tune (B flat 3 and B flat 2 and 3). Ragards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:Verdi Requiem Horns 3 and 4
he third and fourth parts in the Requiem are for horns in C, B flat, A and G Basso. Transpose down. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Horn parts in Film
Perhaps someone will remember. There was a black and white western, produced probably in late 40s or early 50s. The instrumentation for the entire film was a concertina stopped accordion and three horns. Can anyone recall the film title? Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Ruth Gipps Horn Concerto
The Dalley Horn Catalogue lists Concerto as being published by Ticherage Press, Framfeld, England. Triton, for Horn and piano also published by the same. Suspect the publisher is the Gipps estate. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
