Re: [HOT] Getting the Bounding Boxes of the Validated Regions

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Serkan,

Glad I could be helpful :)

5 Coordinates because the feature is a polygon and the final coordinate
duplicates the first - closing the polygon.

It might be worth looking at the Task Manager github page to see if there's
any plans to present coordinates via the API. I had a very quick look at
the documentation and couldn't find anything. Calling the API for the above
gives me as follows:

$ curl https://tasks.hotosm.org/api/v1/project/5182/task/2212
{"taskId": 2212, "projectId": 5182, "taskStatus": "VALIDATED",
"taskHistory": [{"action": "STATE_CHANGE", "actionText": "VALIDATED",
"actionDate": "2018-09-27T00:47:25.252277", "actionBy": "Daniel Specht"},
{"action": "LOCKED_FOR_VALIDATION", "actionText": "00:00:55.310139",
"actionDate": "2018-09-27T00:46:29.945085", "actionBy": "Daniel Specht"},
{"action": "STATE_CHANGE", "actionText": "MAPPED", "actionDate":
"2018-09-19T07:12:13.214061", "actionBy": "Roger Hoorens"}, {"action":
"COMMENT", "actionText": "Nothing visible", "actionDate":
"2018-09-19T07:12:13.212650", "actionBy": "Roger Hoorens"}, {"action":
"LOCKED_FOR_MAPPING", "actionText": "00:00:53.869298", "actionDate":
"2018-09-19T07:11:19.347707", "actionBy": "Roger Hoorens"}],
"perTaskInstructions": "", "isUndoable": false}

I don't know if that would be more useful to you if it contained those
coordinates.

Cheers, Joseph



On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 16:03, Serkan Karakulak  wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> Thanks a lot, this was exactly what we needed indeed! Much appreciated,
> thank you for your help.
>
> Is there a reason that there are five coordinates for the tile btw,
> instead of four?
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:10 AM Joseph Reeves 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Serkan,
>>
>> I've not looked into this properly, but a quick look at a project on the
>> Task Manager shows I can find a validated square:
>>
>> https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/5182?task=2212#bottom
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tasks.hotosm.org_project_5182-3Ftask-3D2212-23bottom&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=9jC6quPZN0RnI866qaQhEg&m=9OlRe6xcyrgpxFqRTDdxQpAT2MxJY1U8BQHF1Eb916Y&s=NIrWuzEqTDWUx8Q-ooCep6LppJk6vUeKNdCqzT4CpM0&e=>
>>
>> This task 2212 appears in the project geojson, and marked as validated:
>> https://tasks.hotosm.org/api/v1/project/5182/tasks?as_file=true
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tasks.hotosm.org_api_v1_project_5182_tasks-3Fas-5Ffile-3Dtrue&d=DwMFaQ&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=9jC6quPZN0RnI866qaQhEg&m=9OlRe6xcyrgpxFqRTDdxQpAT2MxJY1U8BQHF1Eb916Y&s=iYZA-4J-uBIDT8C04bnsXvJKvA_NZKlkdkaT88KckfI&e=>
>>
>> I've not double checked this is what you want, but looks like a good
>> place to start:
>>
>> "type": "MultiPolygon"}, "properties": {"taskId": 2212, "taskSplittable":
>> true, "taskStatus": "VALIDATED", "taskX": 30348, "taskY": 34875,
>> "taskZoom": 16}, "type": "Feature"}, {"geometry": {"coordinates":
>> -13.2934570288688, 11.4907909783363], [-13.2879638648073,
>> 11.4907909783363], [-13.2879638648073, 11.4961739900467],
>> [-13.2934570288688, 11.4961739900467], [-13.2934570288688,
>> 11.4907909783363,
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 03:47, Serkan Karakulak  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am a graduate student in a Data Science program, and I wanted to get
>>> in touch with you because me and my two other friends are interested in
>>> working on a machine learning project to map areas using their satellite
>>> images and produce their labels. If we obtain a high accuracy, we thought
>>> it could be of use to the hotosm and the missingmaps initiatives.
>>>
>>> I have first heard about Missing Maps when I came across a mapathlon
>>> event two years ago in Istanbul. We were in search for a class project for
>>> one of our courses and I remembered about the mapathlon event and we would
>>> be very happy if we could contribute to the this wonderful initiative.
>>> There are already some previous successful works on this subject, so we are
>>> very hopeful that we could come up with an algorithm with high accuracy.
>>>
>>> In order to develop the model, we need to extract bounding boxes of the
>>> validated tiles we see at hotosm. Then we will extract the satellite images
>>> and their labels using the label-maker API which is developed by DevSeed.
>>> Is there a method to extract the coordinates of these validated tiles?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time and help.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
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Re: [HOT] Getting the Bounding Boxes of the Validated Regions

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Serkan,

I've not looked into this properly, but a quick look at a project on the
Task Manager shows I can find a validated square:

https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/5182?task=2212#bottom

This task 2212 appears in the project geojson, and marked as validated:
https://tasks.hotosm.org/api/v1/project/5182/tasks?as_file=true

I've not double checked this is what you want, but looks like a good place
to start:

"type": "MultiPolygon"}, "properties": {"taskId": 2212, "taskSplittable":
true, "taskStatus": "VALIDATED", "taskX": 30348, "taskY": 34875,
"taskZoom": 16}, "type": "Feature"}, {"geometry": {"coordinates":
-13.2934570288688, 11.4907909783363], [-13.2879638648073,
11.4907909783363], [-13.2879638648073, 11.4961739900467],
[-13.2934570288688, 11.4961739900467], [-13.2934570288688,
11.4907909783363,

Cheers, Joseph

On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 03:47, Serkan Karakulak  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am a graduate student in a Data Science program, and I wanted to get in
> touch with you because me and my two other friends are interested in
> working on a machine learning project to map areas using their satellite
> images and produce their labels. If we obtain a high accuracy, we thought
> it could be of use to the hotosm and the missingmaps initiatives.
>
> I have first heard about Missing Maps when I came across a mapathlon event
> two years ago in Istanbul. We were in search for a class project for one of
> our courses and I remembered about the mapathlon event and we would be very
> happy if we could contribute to the this wonderful initiative. There are
> already some previous successful works on this subject, so we are very
> hopeful that we could come up with an algorithm with high accuracy.
>
> In order to develop the model, we need to extract bounding boxes of the
> validated tiles we see at hotosm. Then we will extract the satellite images
> and their labels using the label-maker API which is developed by DevSeed.
> Is there a method to extract the coordinates of these validated tiles?
>
> Thank you for your time and help.
>
> Best,
>
> Serkan
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[HOT] 2018 HOT Election Results

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

We have just completed the 2018 HOT Election.

The newly elected Board Members are *Trudy Hope* and *Natalie Sidibe*

Votes total: 89

Vote for Board:

Trudy Hope: 58 Votes
Natalie Sidibe: 53 Votes
Matt Gibb: 43 Votes
Abstain: 7 Votes



The newly elected Chair is *Joseph Reeves*

Votes total: 89

Vote for Chair:

Joseph Reeves: 76
Abstain: 13


Congratulations to all! The website will be updated shortly to show these
details.

Our elections are voted in by our Membership; if you would like to
participate in future elections please discuss with a current Member the
possibility of being nominated. The nomination period is not going to be
for a little while now, but it would be good to begin thinking about this
if you would like to become a Member. Feel free to drop me an email if you
would like to know more.

All best, Joseph
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Re: [HOT] Connecting it all up

[Joseph Reeves]

And then, with some serendipity, I saw this:

https://twitter.com/tjukanov/status/924625046248787968
https://medium.com/@tjukanov/animated-routes-with-qgis-9377c1f16021

Which is not as I was proposing, but similar,

Cheers, Joseph



On 3 November 2017 at 12:51, Joseph Reeves  wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I like things like this; I'm not sure if I've got anything useful for you,
> but happy to talk about it. I think that routing would be a good place to
> start testing.
>
> For example, in 2009 OSM reported that it was a 7298 km drive from Cape
> Town to the Kenya / Ehtiopia border. In 2010 this was reduced to  km:
> http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/route_finding_across_a_
> continent
>
> Now it comes back as 6051 km: http://www.openstreetmap.org/
> directions?engine=graphhopper_car&route=-33.9157%2C18.4257%
> 3B3.5190%2C39.0547#map=4/-22.55/19.42
>
> According to OSM, the driving distance is roughly 17% less today than in
> 2009; I would imagine that the reduction in distance represents both the
> building of new physical infrastructure and an improvement in OSM data.
>
> Routing is a really easy way to look for problems in OSM, such as:
> https://twitter.com/iknowjoseph/status/567719622070525953
>
> So if you're interested in specific areas, I would suggest creating a
> route and looking to improve mapping along it.
>
> Long term, we could think of ways to conduct this analysis more
> systemically. I would like to experiment with something along the lines of:
>
>
>1. Daily dump of OSM's Africa data
>2. Create 100 start points and 100 end points
>3. Daily create routes from each start to each end point
>4. Log / graph distance of each route
>5. Display each route on a map, coloured by change in daily route
>distance
>
>
> Does anyone have a spare server? :)
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
> On 2 November 2017 at 21:27, john whelan  wrote:
>
>> If you look at many parts of the map in Africa you can see squares of
>> activity.  Often HOT projects but there are many many places where a
>> tertiary or higher classified highway is fifty meters or less from
>> connecting to another highway.
>>
>> I seem to recall in Ghana they had a project to just map the major
>> highways.  This is pure infrastructure, it isn't exciting like mapping
>> buildings but I suspect it would make the map a lot more usable if we could
>> connect up a few more highways and I'm not even sure how you could detect
>> them.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks John
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Re: [HOT] Connecting it all up

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi John,

I like things like this; I'm not sure if I've got anything useful for you,
but happy to talk about it. I think that routing would be a good place to
start testing.

For example, in 2009 OSM reported that it was a 7298 km drive from Cape
Town to the Kenya / Ehtiopia border. In 2010 this was reduced to  km:
http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/route_finding_across_a_continent

Now it comes back as 6051 km:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car&route=-33.9157%2C18.4257%3B3.5190%2C39.0547#map=4/-22.55/19.42


According to OSM, the driving distance is roughly 17% less today than in
2009; I would imagine that the reduction in distance represents both the
building of new physical infrastructure and an improvement in OSM data.

Routing is a really easy way to look for problems in OSM, such as:
https://twitter.com/iknowjoseph/status/567719622070525953

So if you're interested in specific areas, I would suggest creating a route
and looking to improve mapping along it.

Long term, we could think of ways to conduct this analysis more
systemically. I would like to experiment with something along the lines of:


   1. Daily dump of OSM's Africa data
   2. Create 100 start points and 100 end points
   3. Daily create routes from each start to each end point
   4. Log / graph distance of each route
   5. Display each route on a map, coloured by change in daily route
   distance


Does anyone have a spare server? :)

Cheers, Joseph



On 2 November 2017 at 21:27, john whelan  wrote:

> If you look at many parts of the map in Africa you can see squares of
> activity.  Often HOT projects but there are many many places where a
> tertiary or higher classified highway is fifty meters or less from
> connecting to another highway.
>
> I seem to recall in Ghana they had a project to just map the major
> highways.  This is pure infrastructure, it isn't exciting like mapping
> buildings but I suspect it would make the map a lot more usable if we could
> connect up a few more highways and I'm not even sure how you could detect
> them.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks John
>
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Re: [HOT] residential roads within built-up areas

[Joseph Reeves]

I agree with your definition. Would you agree that it implies that
'residential' is used relatively sparsely, i.e. where a road leads to a
group of houses, or where a road is located inside a "gated" are, like an
institution, university, school or residential community?


I wouldn't (although I know nobody asked me).

What is the primary function of the roads you highlighted? Is it to access
the houses that exist there, or is it to travel to other parts of the city?
In many parts of the world, I'd argue, the primary function is to access
the houses, although the secondary function could easily be as a member of
the larger road network. Would that road exist if the houses weren't there?

As others have said, the best way to find out is on the ground.

But... I'd say that 2 general rules should apply: If unsure, don't change
it; try to keep the data as simple as possible.

There are currently 37.2 million residential ways in OSM. So not sparse and
most likely a consensus exists already as to the meaning of residential.

Cheers, Joseph



On 26 July 2017 at 13:39, Bjoern Hassler  wrote:

> Hi Blake,
>
> Thanks!
>
> Generally roads that are part of the larger road network
>> infrastructure and serve as connections between settlements but also
>> pass through those settlements are not down tagged to "residential"
>> roads when they pass through settlements.
>>
> ...
>
>>
>> Residential roads are roads whose primary function is access to
>> housing. If the primary function of the road is to connect settlements
>> and it just happens to pass through some residential area I generally
>> leave it as the larger road classification.
>
>
> In cities, it's just a little hard to define boundaries of settlement.
>
> I agree with your definition. Would you agree that it implies that
> 'residential' is used relatively sparsely, i.e. where a road leads to a
> group of houses, or where a road is located inside a "gated" are, like an
> institution, university, school or residential community?
>
>
>> If you are local to Lusaka, you should connect up with Trudy Hope who
>> is also in Lusaka.
>>
>
> Yes :) We are in touch and met recently.
>
> Bjoern
>
>
>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Bjoern Hassler 
>> wrote:
>> > Dear friends,
>> >
>> > The roads near here (to the west) are all "residential":
>> > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/94058793
>> >
>> > What's the view on residential roads within built-up areas? My view
>> would be
>> > that the roads are all "through-roads" and therefore should be
>> > "Unclassified" rather than residential.
>> >
>> > What do you think?
>> > Bjoern
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Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

[Joseph Reeves]

Thanks John, but I'm mostly certain POSM doesn't host imagery:
https://github.com/posm/posm/blob/master/STATUS.md

Looks like it could be a good feature to add though! Looks like Dale has
opened an issue on it already: https://github.com/posm/posm/issues/277

Cheers, Joseph



On 22 March 2017 at 15:58, john whelan  wrote:

> ​an old post giving details.
>
> John​
>
> Matt Sayler 
> 15/08/2016
> to me, Laura, hot
> POSM & Red Cross had an excellent presentation at SOTMUS, and Seth
> mentioned he'd be willing to set some up for the cost of hardware and
> brownies (I assume that will become dependent on demand/appetite):
> http://stateofthemap.us/2016/field-mapping-at-scale/
>
>
> Nutshell: POSM is for mapping in low/no service areas. It can serve as a
> local, disconnected OSM server, which can later push changes up to the main
> OSM when in an area with service. They primarily use Intel NUC's (~$350 for
> all hardware, runs off ~6w), but have installed it on Rasberry Pi, Intel
> Edison, Beagle Bone, etc. I'm not aware of them doing a usb bootable
> install, but might be possible? Red Cross uses $50 Android phones & Field
> Papers for doing the mapping.
>
> Pretty freaking cool project!
>
> https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/posm
>
> On 22 March 2017 at 11:53, Joseph Reeves  wrote:
>
>> > In a windows environment its fairly easy to configure.  In the
>> security tabs for the folder you just make the folder shareable but read
>> only.
>>
>> There's OSM editors that will source imagery over SMB? I've never looked
>> into it, but I'd be surprised.
>>
>> Thinking about this very quickly, my points would be:
>>
>> 1: RAID: I'd want some disk redundancy as the device is likely to be used
>> in tough environments that are far from good sources of replacement disks,
>> or replacement imagery.
>> 2: Software: As already mentioned, you're going to need some software to
>> serve the tiles. WMS? You'd want a device that was easy to get running with
>> third party software. Performance may also be an issue, depending on how
>> many people you were catering for.
>>
>> I hope someone will come along with an example of what they've managed to
>> do before. If not it should be a fun exercise :)
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 March 2017 at 15:42, john whelan  wrote:
>>
>>> Are you looking for information on how to do it?  On suggested hardware?
>>>
>>> Essentially for this purpose I see no reason why one local machine such
>>> as a lap top couldn't feed the others.  In a windows environment its fairly
>>> easy to configure.  In the security tabs for the folder you just make the
>>> folder shareable but read only.
>>>
>>> Have you  looked at POSM?  (Portable OSM) they may have this already
>>> worked out and documented for the field.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> On 22 March 2017 at 11:22, Claire Halleux 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello HOT Community,
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently looking into NAS specifications for serving imagery tiles
>>>> locally for OSMapping purposes. The NAS would be coupled to a router
>>>> accessible to the mappers. Contributors would still be connected to the
>>>> relatively slow Internet for downloading/uploading their data but the idea
>>>> is to get the ability to load imagery tiles much faster and access
>>>> additional images, in particular during mapathons.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore I would welcome any feedback from people, organisations or
>>>> communities using similar hardware to support data digitizing.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Claire
>>>>
>>>> Claire Halleux
>>>> +243 81 611 6998 (Kinshasa, DRC)
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Re: [HOT] Optimal NAS tech specifications to serve imagery tiles

[Joseph Reeves]

> In a windows environment its fairly easy to configure.  In the security
tabs for the folder you just make the folder shareable but read only.

There's OSM editors that will source imagery over SMB? I've never looked
into it, but I'd be surprised.

Thinking about this very quickly, my points would be:

1: RAID: I'd want some disk redundancy as the device is likely to be used
in tough environments that are far from good sources of replacement disks,
or replacement imagery.
2: Software: As already mentioned, you're going to need some software to
serve the tiles. WMS? You'd want a device that was easy to get running with
third party software. Performance may also be an issue, depending on how
many people you were catering for.

I hope someone will come along with an example of what they've managed to
do before. If not it should be a fun exercise :)

Cheers, Joseph



On 22 March 2017 at 15:42, john whelan  wrote:

> Are you looking for information on how to do it?  On suggested hardware?
>
> Essentially for this purpose I see no reason why one local machine such as
> a lap top couldn't feed the others.  In a windows environment its fairly
> easy to configure.  In the security tabs for the folder you just make the
> folder shareable but read only.
>
> Have you  looked at POSM?  (Portable OSM) they may have this already
> worked out and documented for the field.
>
> Thanks John
>
> On 22 March 2017 at 11:22, Claire Halleux 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello HOT Community,
>>
>> I'm currently looking into NAS specifications for serving imagery tiles
>> locally for OSMapping purposes. The NAS would be coupled to a router
>> accessible to the mappers. Contributors would still be connected to the
>> relatively slow Internet for downloading/uploading their data but the idea
>> is to get the ability to load imagery tiles much faster and access
>> additional images, in particular during mapathons.
>>
>> Therefore I would welcome any feedback from people, organisations or
>> communities using similar hardware to support data digitizing.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Claire
>>
>> Claire Halleux
>> +243 81 611 6998 (Kinshasa, DRC)
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Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

[Joseph Reeves]

Thanks Robert, that's a sound justification.

I know many of us have had discussions with the wider OSM community about
the merits of remote mapping and the impact this may have on local groups.

I'm pleased to see the discussion here and hope there are solutions that
benefit both mappers, aid orgs and the OSM ecosystem.

Cheers, Joseph




On 13 October 2016 at 11:39, Robert Banick  wrote:

> I’m an occasional humanitarian and agree with Pete that I’ve never heard
> serious complaints from humanitarian actors about the quality of the OSM
> data. Certainly no one has said it would be preferable to having no data at
> all.
>
> However, we need to be sensitive to the local OSM communities who will
> clean up any bad data mess we leave behind. I live in Nepal now and
> recently did some mapping work in an area traced by HOT after the Nepal
> earthquake. The quality was sometimes bad and cleanup was time consuming.
>
> I recognize that it was much, much better to have the data there during
> the response. It was much, much better to have the data there for my
> project even. But that’s no reason not to aspire to better data in the long
> term.
>
> OSM is not just a humanitarian platform, it’s also a worldwide community
> with many non-humanitarian uses. As heavy users we have a special
> obligation to respect that and maybe work a little harder to get our data
> to “good” instead of “good enough”. I don’t know whether that’s possible
> but we should at least try.
>
> I don’t mean this to take away from the positive discussion with lots of
> interesting ideas here. I completely agree that we should stay as open as
> possible to new mappers and while making HOT mapping a more guided process
> with appropriate safeguards.
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:54 PM Joseph Reeves 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> "Having said that, I'd like to punt this back to Phil and Sev as I speak
>> to people in the field, who use the data, on a regular basis. Data quality,
>> so far, has almost never come up as an issue. Do you guys have different
>> experience or feedback from field teams? It would be useful to know
>> specifics if you have."
>>
>> This was the question I've been thinking about for a while now and now
>> might be an appropriate time to bring it up. Pete said it better than I
>> could!
>>
>> In short - do square buildings matter for disaster relief mapping? Is
>> there an acceptable trade-off between mapping quality and response time?
>>
>> That's a general question which I think needs to be informed with more
>> specifics to this case, starting with:
>>
>> What is the OpenStreetMap data going to be used for?
>> If we're creating population estimates of an area, is it enough to know
>> the number of buildings or will the geometries be important?
>> What organisation requested the data?
>> What feedback have you received from people on the ground?
>>
>> Sev, you've said "Mapping in OSM in crisis response is not an exciting
>> one-shot hobby", which I can agree with, but if we're going for
>> professionalism I think we should consider the above questions, and plenty
>> more than I'm sure others will have. Anyone can install a copy of the
>> Tasking Manager and get together a skilled group of OSM Humanitarian
>> mappers to engage in crises response, but without a requesting organisation
>> providing goals and feedback it's surely still just a well organised hobby?
>>
>> Personally I've always wondered if we could just use nodes for buildings.
>> We'd get the work done much quicker that way, but it may not look so good
>> on map!
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13 October 2016 at 07:43, Pete Masters 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Data quality is a major issue I think. And I think especially validation.
>> Firstly, that validators are barely recognised in the current tasking
>> manager and secondly that anyone can validate.
>>
>> In MSF, people who are unfamiliar with OSM are much reassured that there
>> is a validation process. However, a short browse of the tasking manager
>> tells you that many projects are not totally validated (despite the
>> incredible efforts of the validators in the community). For me there is a
>> significant risk here of losing the trust of the people who use the data.
>>
>> Having said that, I'd like to punt this back to Phil and Sev as I speak
>> to people in the field, who use the data, on a regular basis. Data quality,
>> so far, has almost never come up as an issue. Do y

Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian mapping and its learning curve

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

"Having said that, I'd like to punt this back to Phil and Sev as I speak to
people in the field, who use the data, on a regular basis. Data quality, so
far, has almost never come up as an issue. Do you guys have different
experience or feedback from field teams? It would be useful to know
specifics if you have."

This was the question I've been thinking about for a while now and now
might be an appropriate time to bring it up. Pete said it better than I
could!

In short - do square buildings matter for disaster relief mapping? Is there
an acceptable trade-off between mapping quality and response time?

That's a general question which I think needs to be informed with more
specifics to this case, starting with:

What is the OpenStreetMap data going to be used for?
If we're creating population estimates of an area, is it enough to know the
number of buildings or will the geometries be important?
What organisation requested the data?
What feedback have you received from people on the ground?

Sev, you've said "Mapping in OSM in crisis response is not an exciting
one-shot hobby", which I can agree with, but if we're going for
professionalism I think we should consider the above questions, and plenty
more than I'm sure others will have. Anyone can install a copy of the
Tasking Manager and get together a skilled group of OSM Humanitarian
mappers to engage in crises response, but without a requesting organisation
providing goals and feedback it's surely still just a well organised hobby?

Personally I've always wondered if we could just use nodes for buildings.
We'd get the work done much quicker that way, but it may not look so good
on map!

Cheers, Joseph




On 13 October 2016 at 07:43, Pete Masters 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Data quality is a major issue I think. And I think especially validation.
> Firstly, that validators are barely recognised in the current tasking
> manager and secondly that anyone can validate.
>
> In MSF, people who are unfamiliar with OSM are much reassured that there
> is a validation process. However, a short browse of the tasking manager
> tells you that many projects are not totally validated (despite the
> incredible efforts of the validators in the community). For me there is a
> significant risk here of losing the trust of the people who use the data.
>
> Having said that, I'd like to punt this back to Phil and Sev as I speak to
> people in the field, who use the data, on a regular basis. Data quality, so
> far, has almost never come up as an issue. Do you guys have different
> experience or feedback from field teams? It would be useful to know
> specifics if you have.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> On 13 Oct 2016 07:31, "Robert Banick"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> HOT is clearly one of, if not the, most successful crowdsourcing projects
>> for humanitarian response in the world. Success means not just contributors
>> but also use of the data by actual humanitarians. It’s unsurprising we’re
>> encountering some limits to the approach and need to evolve it.
>>
>> I like Phil and John’s automated approach to these things. I think the
>> Tasking Manager has proven that the best way to manage these interactions
>> is through an automated platform. My only concern is making what’s
>> currently straightforward overly complex and intimidating for new users.
>> But that’s a call for good design and introductory materials, not dumbing
>> down our approach.
>>
>> However, it’s the middle of a disaster and clearly not the time for
>> wholesale changes. I suggest we flag these thoughts for the forthcoming
>> Tasking Manager redesign and embrace makeshift systems in the meantime.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Robert
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:31 AM Phil (The Geek) Wyatt <
>> p...@wyatt-family.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am a retired long time map user, occasional mapper (in QGIS, Mapinfo)
>>> and supporter of the OSM mapping project. It seems to me that the issue of
>>> poor mapping, especially for HOT projects, is coming up on such a regular
>>> basis that it's time to consider some mandatory training for users before
>>> they get to map under the HOT task manager. I don't think this would be too
>>> difficult for most volunteers and it could ensure that at least a certain
>>> level of competency is attained before being exposed to complex tasks. If
>>> people know that in the first place then they can make a choice as to
>>> whether they commence or continue to map.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have no idea how this could be accomplished as I know little of the
>>> linkages between OSM and the HOT Task Manager, but restricting HOT tasks to
>>> those with some defined training could improve the results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's say as a minimum you train folks on roads and residential area
>>> polygons - that might be level 1 (ID Editor)
>>>
>>> Level 2 could be after training for buildings, tracks, paths (ID or JOSM)
>>>
>>> Level 3 for validation (JOSM)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In this way HOT tasks sim

Re: [HOT] HOT Summit Early Bird Registration ends June 18

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

There's less than 3 hours left to buy an early bird ticket!

I got mine today, really looking forward to the event.

Cheers, Joseph



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> Please be sure to register and pass it on to your friends and colleagues.
> HOT Community Members attend for just $50 and HOT Corporate and Institution
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>
> It's just important that you register.  Go to:
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Re: [HOT] Hot tasking manager Togo Maps disapeared

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Daniel,

The search pulls it up:

http://tasks.hotosm.org/?sort_by=priority&direction=asc&search=meningitis

Looks they've been archived - I can't tell you why, but they're still
there. One is complete, but the other has squares available:

http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1588

Cheers, Joseph



On 15 May 2016 at 23:12, D Pilon  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone explain why in the Hot Tasking Manager the Togo meningitis
> projects have disapeared?
>
> Thank you
>
> Daniel Pilon
>
> Note: As this is my first post, I'll present myself: Daniel Pilon, I work
> for Canada's mapping agency The Canada Center for Mapping and Earth
> Observation (CCMEO); I decided to get involved in OSM as I find it is a
> very stimulating initiative.  For any question on Canada's national
> mapping, licence, CanVec you can contact me and I'll try to help you. You
> can contact me in either French or English
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Re: [HOT] Cloud over Lusaka

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Gertrude,

I've just had a quick look at this and can see what you mean.Have you tried
the MapBox imagery? It seems to have much less (maybe even no) clouds, but
you can't zoom in as far with it. Are there any specific areas of Lusaka
that are covered by clouds?

Thanks, Joseph



On 31 January 2016 at 14:13, Gertrude Hope  wrote:

> We have experienced a problem with the bing imagery most of the places are
> covered with clouds so we cant map the roads and the areas. How should we
> go about this.
>
>
>
> Namitala Gertrude,
> +260-97020779
> skype: trudy.hope2
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Re: [HOT] Lake Malawi missing in standard layer

[Joseph Reeves]

Further to that, this tile at zoom 11 was all land:

http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/11/1218/1087.png

I marked as dirty and it's re-rendered as it should be.

Cheers, Joseph



On 18 January 2016 at 17:22, Joseph Reeves  wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> I've just had the briefest of looks, but, here's the object in OSM:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2631184
>
> Latest change was "Repair Lake Malawi multipolygon." ten days ago.
>
> It looks like you can zoom in and it appears:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-11.0657/34.2487
>
> So I'd guess that it was broken, rendered not there, then fix and the
> renderer hasn't caught up yet. In short, it looks like the data is ok and
> we have to wait for it to be rendered.
>
> But that really was only a brief look!
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
> On 18 January 2016 at 17:10, Martin Noblecourt 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I've been notified by a colleague that Lake Malawi
>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2631184> is not visible on
>> various in the standard OSM layer at most levels, e.g.
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/-12.0433/34.4572 and
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/-12.1122/34.4418
>> (and also on some others, but not in the HOT one...)
>> We've tried to identify the cause of the bug in vain, can an expert OSM
>> user help us? We are using webmapping tools around the area so it will
>> become quite annoying.
>>
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
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>>
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Re: [HOT] Lake Malawi missing in standard layer

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Martin,

I've just had the briefest of looks, but, here's the object in OSM:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2631184

Latest change was "Repair Lake Malawi multipolygon." ten days ago.

It looks like you can zoom in and it appears:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-11.0657/34.2487

So I'd guess that it was broken, rendered not there, then fix and the
renderer hasn't caught up yet. In short, it looks like the data is ok and
we have to wait for it to be rendered.

But that really was only a brief look!

Cheers, Joseph



On 18 January 2016 at 17:10, Martin Noblecourt 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I've been notified by a colleague that Lake Malawi
>  is not visible on various
> in the standard OSM layer at most levels, e.g.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/-12.0433/34.4572 and
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/-12.1122/34.4418
> (and also on some others, but not in the HOT one...)
> We've tried to identify the cause of the bug in vain, can an expert OSM
> user help us? We are using webmapping tools around the area so it will
> become quite annoying.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --
> Martin Noblecourt
>
> *m_nobleco...@cartong.org  | Bureau/Office: +33
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[HOT] I'm running for the OSMF Board

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

Apologies to those on the Members' list, I'm spamming you with this for the
second time. I sent this note to Members yesterday and it was suggested I
send to the wider HOT community as well.

Feedback would be great, and I'd also add that OSMF membership is something
that should really be given some thought if you're a keen OSM user:

I've put myself forward as a candidate for the next OpenStreetMap
Foundation Board:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board

I strongly believe that HOT is a important and valuable member of the wider
OSM community, and that we also have a perspective on OSM that may be very
different from some other people's. I think that the OSMF could potentially
learn a great deal from HOT; we're a small group, but an incredibly diverse
mix of people that generate some fantastic results.

My question to you all, therefore, is does our HOT perspective raise
questions or concerns that may be missing from the current OSMF discourse?
Can you share an insight into the running of smaller communities that are
culturally, and physically, separated from the UK based OSMF? Does saving
lives with OpenStreetMap give a different perspective on how the wider
organisation should be run?

I'd really like to hear from fellow members on this topic, and there's also
a space for questions on the wiki if you'd like to contact all candidates
via that means:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Foundation/AGM15/Election_to_Board

I'm not the only HOTie running for a place, so I think this is a great time
for some of our potentially under-represented voices to be heard.

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Re: [HOT] How to incorporate WASH data into OSM

[Joseph Reeves]

Sure, but can those existing keys / values be extended to cover the wash
data or is it too far from the mainstream OSM data? Looking at the examples
given by Jose I'd say that much could be brought into the existing osm
schema without too much trouble.

Cheers, Joseph



On 27 October 2015 at 11:50, Dale Kunce  wrote:

> Joseph,
> Right now we use a combination of pump=* and amenity=drinking_water both
> of which don't really cover the full needs of wash data.
>
> Dale
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Joseph Reeves 
> wrote:
>
>> hi Jose, Dale,
>>
>> On the topic of a standard tagging schema, there's the start of something
>> on the wiki:
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump
>>
>> The pump key has already got some use:
>>
>> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=pump#overview
>>
>> It would be great if this could be extended to suit your needs. Some
>> things would be easily done (PUMP_TYPE, FLOW_RATE), but others such as
>> the time it's been failed for would presumably take some extra thinking.
>> I'm sure we could get it worked out though!
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 27 October 2015 at 11:42, Dale Kunce  wrote:
>>
>>> Jose,
>>> I think it would be really smart if MSF, Red Cross and other NGOs could
>>> come up with a standard tagging scheme for wash activities. There isn't
>>> anything thus far and I can see a huge benefit to support both our Missing
>>> Maps field work but also field work in other areas such as refugee camps.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Jose Cisneros Gallegos <
>>> jm.cisnero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>
>>>> The MSF team in Chad is carrying splendid work and so far has sent
>>>> previously non-existing data about water points in the region of Bokoro. At
>>>> the GIS unit in MSF London we are trying to incorporate this newly acquired
>>>> data into OSM, however we are not exactly sure how to proceed. Some of the
>>>> variables include:
>>>>
>>>>  - PUMP_EXISTS
>>>>  - PUMP_TYPE
>>>>  - OTHER_PUMP_TYPE
>>>>  - HAND_PUMP_WORKING
>>>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_TIME_UNIT
>>>>  - NOT_WORKING:HOW_LONG_NOT_WORKING
>>>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_LABEL
>>>>  - WHY_NOT_WORKING
>>>>  - FLOW_RATE
>>>>  - BOREHOLE_PROTECTED
>>>>  - REPAIR_NEEDED
>>>>  - TYPE_OF_REPAIR_NEEDED
>>>>
>>>> Should all of the variables be included as tags? Is there a protocol on
>>>> how to incorporate WASH and water infrastructure data?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jose
>>>> GIS volunteer @ MSK UK / BRC
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Re: [HOT] How to incorporate WASH data into OSM

[Joseph Reeves]

hi Jose, Dale,

On the topic of a standard tagging schema, there's the start of something
on the wiki:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump

The pump key has already got some use:

http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=pump#overview

It would be great if this could be extended to suit your needs. Some things
would be easily done (PUMP_TYPE, FLOW_RATE), but others such as the time
it's been failed for would presumably take some extra thinking. I'm sure we
could get it worked out though!

Cheers, Joseph




On 27 October 2015 at 11:42, Dale Kunce  wrote:

> Jose,
> I think it would be really smart if MSF, Red Cross and other NGOs could
> come up with a standard tagging scheme for wash activities. There isn't
> anything thus far and I can see a huge benefit to support both our Missing
> Maps field work but also field work in other areas such as refugee camps.
>
> Dale
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Jose Cisneros Gallegos <
> jm.cisnero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> The MSF team in Chad is carrying splendid work and so far has sent
>> previously non-existing data about water points in the region of Bokoro. At
>> the GIS unit in MSF London we are trying to incorporate this newly acquired
>> data into OSM, however we are not exactly sure how to proceed. Some of the
>> variables include:
>>
>>  - PUMP_EXISTS
>>  - PUMP_TYPE
>>  - OTHER_PUMP_TYPE
>>  - HAND_PUMP_WORKING
>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_TIME_UNIT
>>  - NOT_WORKING:HOW_LONG_NOT_WORKING
>>  - NOT_WORKING:NOT_WORKING_LABEL
>>  - WHY_NOT_WORKING
>>  - FLOW_RATE
>>  - BOREHOLE_PROTECTED
>>  - REPAIR_NEEDED
>>  - TYPE_OF_REPAIR_NEEDED
>>
>> Should all of the variables be included as tags? Is there a protocol on
>> how to incorporate WASH and water infrastructure data?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Jose
>> GIS volunteer @ MSK UK / BRC
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Re: [HOT] highways from Africover import with tag AUTO_ID removal

[Joseph Reeves]

hi Rafael,

I asked something similar in 2010 and was told that the IDs can be removed:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-March/049175.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-March/049207.html

I don't think I've touched any Africover data for a while, but when I was
I aligned it to satellite imagery and tagged it up as best I could.

Cheers, Joseph





On 29 September 2015 at 03:02, Rafael Avila Coya 
wrote:

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> Hi, all:
>
> I've seen there are hundreds of highways in Tanzania (about 1,700 at
> this moment) that come from an old (most probably undocumented) bulk
> import of Africover data, done back on 8-July-2009 [1]. Most of these
> ways have an odd AUTO_ID key tag, that is probably an Africover
> reference number.
>
> My understanding is that this tag is most probably useless, and
> undocumented too, so my idea would be to delete this tag from all
> ways, unless there is a nice reason to keep them. Makes sense?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rafael.
>
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/1775247
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Re: [HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Important Maintenance shortly

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi, it's read / write again now, as per normal (time frame from original
announcement: "midday to 1pm (UTC/GMT)").

Cheers, Joseph



On 27 July 2015 at 14:34,  wrote:

> Thanks for this update.
>
> Any idea of how long this will take?
>
> Cheers
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>   *From: *Heather Leson
> *Sent: *Monday, 27 July 2015 12:29
> *To: *HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team)
> *Subject: *[HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Important Maintenance shortly
>
> Hi Folks, in case you have mapping projects today, see below.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherle...@gmail.com
> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
>
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> Date: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 2:21 PM
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Important Maintenance shortly
> To: OSM Dev List , Talk Openstreetmap <
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>
> Hi All,
>
> OpenStreetMap website + API will be read-only midday to 1pm (UTC/GMT)
> later today for important hardware maintenance. Apologies for the
> short notice.
>
> Mappers will not be able to save map updates during this maintenance
> window.
>
> For status updates during the maintenance window please visit
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>
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Re: [HOT] Problem with Tasking Manager again

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Suzan,

This sounds like you're problems within the iD editor rather than the
Tasking Manager. If I'm reading correctly, Tasking Manager is opening
iD for you once you've picked a square, but iD is not dealing with
your login credentials properly and you aren't able to save.

As Dan has already said, this could well be related to you clearing cookies.

I would suggest:

1: Visit openstreetmap.org and making an edit to your home town. Does
this work?
2: Log in to the Tasking Manager and try picking a square. Can you
save afterwards?

If 1 doesn't work, I would open and area to edit and get your browser
to do a page reload with cleared cache - Command + Shift + R - I
imagine that would usually fix it, which would then fix 2.

But, in short, certainly sounds like a local authentication issue
rather than a TM problem.

Let us know how you get on,

Cheers, Joseph




On 10 July 2015 at 11:00, Dan S  wrote:
> I suspect you should STOP clearing cookies. Cookies are (probably)
> where your login credentials are stored. So if you clear the cookies
> then it forgets you've logged in.
>
> Dan
>
>
> 2015-07-10 10:48 GMT+01:00 Suzan Reed :
>>
>> Friends,
>>
>> I am again having problems with the Tasking Manager.
>>
>> After many hours successfully mapping over the past days, I am again having 
>> the same difficulty where, although I am logged in, I am asked to login 
>> again, this time when I save.
>>
>> Two different things happen:
>> 1. A dialog box appears when I click the top Save button. When I fill in my 
>> username and password, it doesn’t recognize either. Stuck.
>> 2. I click on the top Save button, click on the side Save button, and 
>> nothing happens.
>>
>> I’m on a new MacBook Pro using Chrome OS X Yosemite. I cleared cookies and 
>> did all the usually fixes. Again it looks like it’s in the Tasking Manager 
>> itself.
>>
>> Thanks for helping.
>>
>> Suzan
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Re: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel

[Joseph Reeves]

Don't forget that Fran Boon has provided:
http://logs.sahanafoundation.org/hotosm/

Cheers, Joseph




On 9 June 2015 at 23:08, Russell Deffner  wrote:

> Hi everyone, yes thank you Milo for setting up this first bot at least to
> try out.  I’ve cc’d our TechWG, unfortunately they just had their meeting
> yesterday; but I think it would be a great agenda item to discuss
> longer-term/better meeting bots.  Also need to discuss the Mumble
> ‘Parliamentarian’ and getting that set-up to do same/similar for our voting
> member and board meetings.
>
>
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> *From:* Enock Seth Nyamador [mailto:kwadzo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 09, 2015 3:08 PM
> *To:* Simon Clark
> *Cc:* hot
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] meetbot in #hot irc channel
>
>
>
> Hi Simon, seems Fedora Project IRC example is better. Will be nice if HOT
> implements same.
>
> Thanks Milo for the meetbot.
>
> Best,
>
>
> - Enock
> twitter: @Enock4seth
> enockseth.github.io | [[User:Enock4seth]]
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Simon Clark 
> wrote:
>
> Over on the Fedora Project irc channels, we have the meetbot functionality
> incorporated into our irc bot.  Anyone logged in to the irc channels can
> issue commands to the bot but the convention for meetings is that we wait
> for the chair to issue the #startmeeting command.  It is useful for the
> chair to #addchair one or two other participants in case they have to leave
> before the meeting ends as only a meeting chair can #endmeeting.  This
> seems to work well and supports many meetings per week.
>
> Simon
>
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Re: [HOT] What does IDT mean?

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Charlotte,

IDT or IDP? An IDP is an "Internally Displaced Person". See, for example:

http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49c3646c146.html

Cheers, Joseph



On 29 April 2015 at 15:47, Charlotte Wolter  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> You keep talking about them as if the whole world knows what they
> are. Nobody does. Please stop using acronyms or always define an acronym.
>
> Charlotte
>
>
> Charlotte Wolter
> 927 18th Street Suite A
> Santa Monica, California
> 90403
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[HOT] Could HOT partner with a handheld GPS maker?

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

I've recently been trying to think through some of my HOT daydreaming -
much of this relates to how HOT might grow in the future and what we may be
doing when that future arrives.

Not a business proposal, but some thinking out loud, could HOT be doing
more with the traditional map companies? Could the sat-nav in your car be
helping people?

https://ello.co/iknowjoseph/post/5sqAy4buyGqqG1OYCdr9Pw

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Re: [HOT] Let's make the most of this

[Joseph Reeves]

hi Sev,

I've seen that you've put your statement forward - as a voting member it's
much appreciated. I've got some questions, but don't have the time to type
them out right now. I wasn't trying to stigmatize anyone, but was simply
asking those that hadn't written their views to try and do so. Of course,
it's not my election, and I don't think any candidate has any obligation to
write out their views, but as a voter I wouldn't support anyone that was
unable to tell me why they wanted to be on the Board.

I'm interested that you've brought up the fact that English isn't your
native language: We've had discussions about language issues before and
everyone seems to agree that we need to be catering more for those that
don't speak English as their first language. I think this is a really
difficult one, however, and not something we've done well at so far. We're
lucky that there are people such as yourself who are so good at English as
your second (or maybe even third or fourth) language. I suppose this is a
discussion for a different time (and I don't know the implications for a US
registered organisation??), but I wanted to flag it for now.

Best, Joseph




On 12 March 2015 at 14:38, Severin Menard  wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> I did plan to present my views as a candidate for the board and I did it,
> and I am sure everyone else has been working on this. The extension allows
> us to strengthen our texts. Publishing early is your own decision and is
> not a rule and I do not see the benefit to stigmatize other candidates.
> Please keep in mind you had the chance to write your views in your native
> language, what is not the case for any of us.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Joseph Reeves 
> wrote:
>
>> *tl;dr *People are always asking for more of a say in HOT. Let's do that
>> now!
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> The proposed (accepted?) extension to the nomination process has taken
>> most of us by surprise. Let's use it as an opportunity.
>>
>> The original nomination deadline is due to close in less than an hour.
>> With this extended we have some possibilities. Most obviously, Severin,
>> Nicolas, Jaakko & Pierre, will you be able to write a proposal for your
>> Board election before the new deadline? Reading why someone else thinks
>> you're great is, well, great, but I'd rather hear your views.
>>
>> In fact, I think this is really important before the new deadline. By
>> writing your views about HOT, the role of the Board and why you want to be
>> on it, you give others the opportunity to engage with you and your views.
>> You give others the opportunity to put themselves or others forward. We've
>> got the word "Open" in our organisation name; please don't keep your
>> thoughts from us.
>>
>> I do admit, however, that the deadline extension is a bit of a nuisance
>> if you were planning to sneak in at the last minute, not say anything to
>> the membership and then let the nomination process close behind you. I'm
>> sure nobody was planning that.
>>
>> Members, volunteers, interested parties:
>>
>> if you were thinking of running for the Board, there's still time. Read
>> what others have written and see if you agree. Tell us what you think of
>> the organisation. How does the Board fit in there? Why do you want to be on
>> the Board and not a Working Group? What could you do as a board Member that
>> you couldn't do as a a community manager or mapping coordinator?
>>
>> If you weren't thinking of running for the Board, please tell us what you
>> think anyway. At times in the past we've had great outcries that the
>> Membership has not been listened to. At this great opportunity, however,
>> it's depressing that not more people are speaking; the usual verbose email
>> senders, myself included, have been saying more than anyone else.
>>
>> You don't have to tell us much. Brief is good. Put in a tl;dr if you like.
>>
>> This is the most important time for sharing your views.
>>
>> I'd be interested in, for example, what do you think HOT is? How do the
>> volunteers, Members and Board fit that view? What needs to change? Where
>> will we be in a year? 5 years? 10 years? How do we need to get there?
>>
>> Tell us what you think, please.
>>
>> Thanks, Joseph
>>
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[HOT] Let's make the most of this

[Joseph Reeves]

*tl;dr *People are always asking for more of a say in HOT. Let's do that
now!

Dear all,

The proposed (accepted?) extension to the nomination process has taken most
of us by surprise. Let's use it as an opportunity.

The original nomination deadline is due to close in less than an hour. With
this extended we have some possibilities. Most obviously, Severin, Nicolas,
Jaakko & Pierre, will you be able to write a proposal for your Board
election before the new deadline? Reading why someone else thinks you're
great is, well, great, but I'd rather hear your views.

In fact, I think this is really important before the new deadline. By
writing your views about HOT, the role of the Board and why you want to be
on it, you give others the opportunity to engage with you and your views.
You give others the opportunity to put themselves or others forward. We've
got the word "Open" in our organisation name; please don't keep your
thoughts from us.

I do admit, however, that the deadline extension is a bit of a nuisance if
you were planning to sneak in at the last minute, not say anything to the
membership and then let the nomination process close behind you. I'm sure
nobody was planning that.

Members, volunteers, interested parties:

if you were thinking of running for the Board, there's still time. Read
what others have written and see if you agree. Tell us what you think of
the organisation. How does the Board fit in there? Why do you want to be on
the Board and not a Working Group? What could you do as a board Member that
you couldn't do as a a community manager or mapping coordinator?

If you weren't thinking of running for the Board, please tell us what you
think anyway. At times in the past we've had great outcries that the
Membership has not been listened to. At this great opportunity, however,
it's depressing that not more people are speaking; the usual verbose email
senders, myself included, have been saying more than anyone else.

You don't have to tell us much. Brief is good. Put in a tl;dr if you like.

This is the most important time for sharing your views.

I'd be interested in, for example, what do you think HOT is? How do the
volunteers, Members and Board fit that view? What needs to change? Where
will we be in a year? 5 years? 10 years? How do we need to get there?

Tell us what you think, please.

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Re: [HOT] HOT Board and Chair Elections

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ng on
> the Board of HOT is a rigorous and demanding sandbox. Each of you have
> taught me to rethink context, language and perspectives. While we all
> naturally do this, HOT has evolved and as we do in a positive, productive
> way, the HOT Board can do this as well. This is a gift for all the Board
> duties. I would highly recommend that you (at some point in your career) be
> on a Board for an NGO. It will give you the big picture, the weight of
> responsibility (contracts, staff, members, community, organization and,
> whew, humanitarians). I often worry about our partner's perspective. Are we
> doing enough, are they happy with us and how can we better stabilize to
> keep opening the door with HOT and digital humanitarians. This has made me
> very driven on our future. It has streamlined my ability to prioritize and
> really dream big. All of this, again, makes me a better human and very
> proud of all the efforts - the simple and the very hard.
>
> Lessons I learned from the working groups have informed conversations with
> other open source organizations. I cite what I learned from HOT or how HOT
> co-created a strategy document or grant, or how HOT built a resolution
> process and has navigated to be more peaceful and hopefully productive.
> These organizational community leaders listen to this and then go back to
> their communities to talk about HOT's best practices. This is all our work.
>
> 3. Gender
> Are you a women? Please run for the Board. Ask me any questions and I can
> help. Claire was on the Board with me this past year. It made a difference
> in dynamic. One thing that we have not broached enough is the what I like
> to call the "mapper dude" dynamic. For my male colleagues, you are awesome.
> I have the utmost respect for you. Honest. I am slightly uncomfortable
> bringing up the topic of gender, which is a sign in itself. If we are
> growing globally, we need to also have more women inspired to be members
> and community leaders. I can't put my finger on why more women are not
> involved, but we need to think about it.  This will come in time as is
> evident from the changing nature of some of the workshops of late. But,
> there is a gap.
>
> Just like HOT needs a balanced Board of diverse skills and locations, we
> also need women. See some of the research.
>
>
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/chicceo/2014/03/11/the-case-for-women-on-boards-sxsw-2014/
>
>
> Fellow Candidates - I'll review all your notes and send more conversation
> points later tonight.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> heather
>
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherle...@gmail.com
> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Joseph Reeves 
> wrote:
>
>> >Also, I think it would work to use the one table for people seeking
>> nomination for either the Board or Chair, just make sure it’s obvious which
>> one your seeking nomination for
>>
>> Done,
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 March 2015 at 16:18, Russell Deffner 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Joseph – I like the table and moved it up to the top of the
>>> page
>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Board_Elections_2015#Nominations_for_Humanitarian_OpenStreetMap_Team_Chair>.
>>> Mark, maybe you can delete, re-direct or link your page to there so we
>>> don’t end up with manifestos in both locations?  Also, I think it would
>>> work to use the one table for people seeking nomination for either the
>>> Board or Chair, just make sure it’s obvious which one your seeking
>>> nomination for.
>>>
>>> =Russ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Joseph Reeves [mailto:iknowjos...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:14 AM
>>> *To:* Kate Chapman
>>> *Cc:* hot
>>> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] HOT Board and Chair Elections
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi Kate, all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've added a new table to that wiki page so that people with an interest
>>> in the Board elections, and a statement posted somewhere, can put
>>> themselves forward as candidates looking for nomination. So far that's Dale
>>> and myself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's really good to see Mark and Dale put forward their ideas about HOT
>>> and the Board - I'd urge as many people as possible to do the same, and to
>>> do it as quickly as possible. Let's get discussing what we want the Board
>>> to be doing and where we want the organisation to be going.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As a side note, I think that this practice of putting up your ideas and
>>> looking for nominators is also how we should be running the new member
>>> intake. If you're not a voting member, but would like to be, please tell us
>>> why long before the next intake is scheduled to finish.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Board and Chair Elections

[Joseph Reeves]

>Also, I think it would work to use the one table for people seeking
nomination for either the Board or Chair, just make sure it’s obvious which
one your seeking nomination for

Done,

Cheers, Joseph




On 5 March 2015 at 16:18, Russell Deffner 
wrote:

> Thank you Joseph – I like the table and moved it up to the top of the page
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Board_Elections_2015#Nominations_for_Humanitarian_OpenStreetMap_Team_Chair>.
> Mark, maybe you can delete, re-direct or link your page to there so we
> don’t end up with manifestos in both locations?  Also, I think it would
> work to use the one table for people seeking nomination for either the
> Board or Chair, just make sure it’s obvious which one your seeking
> nomination for.
>
> =Russ
>
>
>
> *From:* Joseph Reeves [mailto:iknowjos...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:14 AM
> *To:* Kate Chapman
> *Cc:* hot
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] HOT Board and Chair Elections
>
>
>
> hi Kate, all,
>
>
>
> I've added a new table to that wiki page so that people with an interest
> in the Board elections, and a statement posted somewhere, can put
> themselves forward as candidates looking for nomination. So far that's Dale
> and myself.
>
>
>
> It's really good to see Mark and Dale put forward their ideas about HOT
> and the Board - I'd urge as many people as possible to do the same, and to
> do it as quickly as possible. Let's get discussing what we want the Board
> to be doing and where we want the organisation to be going.
>
>
>
> As a side note, I think that this practice of putting up your ideas and
> looking for nominators is also how we should be running the new member
> intake. If you're not a voting member, but would like to be, please tell us
> why long before the next intake is scheduled to finish.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Board and Chair Elections

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lishment for HOT. It allows HOT to engage with new stakeholders,
>>> local communities, and donors to accomplish HOT's work. I've worked hard
>>> since joining the non-profit sector to lend my hand at strengthening HOT:
>>> founding Missing Maps, building technology to enable our work (Tasking
>>> Manager 2, OpenMapKit, OSM-Meta-API), fundraising for various projects,
>>> helping host and plan the upcoming HOT Summit, and generally working behind
>>> the scenes in the humanitarian sector to lead the adoption and use of OSM
>>> by humanitarian organizations.
>>>
>>> My vision for HOT is a continuation and evolution of its current path. I
>>> want HOT to have a solid financial foundation that supports both technology
>>> and field projects, HOT helps guide other humanitarian organizations to
>>> adopt and use OSM, and the old animosities are replaced with a renewed
>>> passion and dedication to help HOT grow.
>>>
>>> The key areas that I will focus on if elected to the board include:
>>>
>>>- *Governance*: Build upon the momentum created by existing HOT
>>>staff and working groups to manage and maintain the governance structures
>>>within HOT.
>>>- *Overhaul Board Terms of Reference*: The existing HOT Board is
>>>required to oversee the daily management of HOT and does not have enough
>>>time to focus on creating and implementing a longer term vision. I will
>>>work to empower HOT staff to take a more active part in the daily
>>>decision-making process in line with how other NGOs function.
>>>- *Partnerships*: It is imperative that HOT build better
>>>partnerships *before* disasters. One of the main reasons the
>>>American Red Cross uses OpenStreetMap is due to the relationship built
>>>prior to, rather than during, a disaster. Pre-established relationships 
>>> can
>>>strengthen the broader applications of HOT to other actors. I will 
>>> develop
>>>and strengthen partnerships with humanitarian relief organizations so 
>>> that
>>>OSM and HOT are embedded into their business operations.
>>>- *Fundraising*: HOT needs to create an endowment to support long
>>>term projects, technical infrastructure, and increased staff. Many
>>>organizations depend on HOT during times of crisis and even during normal
>>>operations.
>>>
>>> During my time at the American Red Cross I've had the privilege of
>>> working directly with a number of the members. I've also had the privilege
>>> of seeing the HOT's work first hand being used to alleviate suffering after
>>> Typhoon Haiyan and heard stories and reports from many humanitarians that
>>> depend on HOT to do their work for the West Africa Ebola outbreak and from
>>> many other activations. I want to see that HOT keeps being able to make
>>> others work that 1 percent easier.
>>>
>>> Thank you support of HOT and for your consideration.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:20 PM Blake Girardot 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> I could not agree more.
>>>>
>>>> We as voting members really need to be more involved in the processes
>>>> and activities of governing our organization.
>>>>
>>>> Input, ideas and our membership's priorities need to be expressed or the
>>>> Board and Kate are left in the dark.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is thinking about running for Board I hope they will speak up
>>>> soon.
>>>>
>>>> Further, if anyone has questions for people running for Board, I hope
>>>> they will ask them now so candidates have a chance to answer questions.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/4/2015 8:41 PM, Joseph Reeves wrote:
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> >
>>>> > Blake, thanks for nominating Heather; I was just thinking about this
>>>> > nomination process.
>>>> >
>>>> > All, last year one of the problems we went through with the Board
>>>> > election process was that a last minute proposal was made to radically
>>>> > change the organisation and members didn't, it could well be argued,
>>>> > have enough time to openly discuss the issues and the ramifications.
>>>> >

Re: [HOT] Election Manisfesto

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

Having written what I'd like to see from others I thought I'd put up my own
example. Please find my Board thoughts at the following post:

https://ello.co/iknowjoseph/post/PknSgOQVxK8lsQJrtIQgEw

I hope that this, if nothing else, is a start to the dialogue I was
previously asking for.

Cheers, Joseph




On 4 March 2015 at 20:24, Joseph Reeves  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Aiming to eat my own dog food, please find online my manifesto for the
> upcoming HOT Board election:
>
> https://ello.co/iknowjoseph/post/8Ne4RgB7nqa9O9W3nGwGuQ
>
> Take care of each other,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
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[HOT] Election Manisfesto

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

Aiming to eat my own dog food, please find online my manifesto for the
upcoming HOT Board election:

https://ello.co/iknowjoseph/post/8Ne4RgB7nqa9O9W3nGwGuQ

Take care of each other,

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Re: [HOT] HOT Board and Chair Elections

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

Blake, thanks for nominating Heather; I was just thinking about this
nomination process.

All, last year one of the problems we went through with the Board election
process was that a last minute proposal was made to radically change the
organisation and members didn't, it could well be argued, have enough time
to openly discuss the issues and the ramifications. More recently we've
admitted more members to the organisation and have, again, arguably done
this too quickly and without enough time for debate and discussion.

The nomination period closes on March 9th. This is less than a week in the
future and there are currently only 2 nominations, both for people who are
current Board members.

If you're considering running for the Board, please get your name on the
list soon. Please also tell us why you should be a Board member; if you've
written a manifesto, get it circulated as soon as possible.

Please lets go through this process as best we can.

Thanks, Joseph



On 4 March 2015 at 19:28, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> It is my privilege to nominate Heather Leson for the Humanitarian
> OpenStreetMap Team Board of Directors.
>
> Heather is a dedicated and tireless HOT member and current Board member
> but most importantly, she always expresses and represents what to me are
> the core values of HOT: Altruism, inclusiveness, genuine respect for every
> person and peacefulness.
>
> I hope you will join me in supporting her for the Board.
>
> Best wishes,
> Blake
>
>
>
> On 2/25/2015 4:44 PM, Heather Leson wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Russell.
>>
>> Fellow Community supporters and members, I ask for your nomination and
>> support to continue the mandate as your Board Member.
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Heather%20Leson/diary/34467
>>
>> My recent article on OpenSource.com also highlights the opportunity that
>> we have to continue our growth:
>> https://opensource.com/life/15/2/getting-involved-hfoss
>>
>> For Hotties who are eligible, I would encourage you to support HOT with
>> your skills. I am happy to answer questions as a Board Member to aid in
>> your decisions. As well, I would encourage former Board Members and
>> Current Members to assist folks in their decision.
>>
>> Some skills that I think HOT needs:
>>
>>   * Strong network, partnership relationships, fundraising capabilities
>>   * Finance or legal background
>>   * Strategic and management experience
>>   * Languages
>>
>>
>> Please read the Board primer and the HOT 2014-2015 Strategy as well.
>> (links in my diary)
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your potential support.
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> Heather Leson
>> heatherle...@gmail.com 
>> Twitter: HeatherLeson
>> Blog: textontechs.com 
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Russell Deffner
>> mailto:russell.deff...@hotosm.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Good day HOT community,
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> It is my humble honor to launch the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>> 2015 Election for Board of Directors and Chairperson for the Voting
>> Members!
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Key Dates:
>>
>> - Nomination period from today (23 February 2015) until 9 March
>> 2015*.
>>
>> - Ballot/voting period from delivery (no later than 13 March 2015)
>> until 27 March 2015 23:59 UTC*.
>>
>> - Election concludes at the Annual Meeting of the voting membership
>> (week of 29 March 2015)*.
>>
>> * Unless altered following the Election Procedures.
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Places to find details and (hopefully) answers to all your
>> questions:
>>
>> - 2015 Board and Chair Election wiki-page:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_
>> Team/Board_Elections_2015
>> 
>>
>> - 2015 Annual Meeting Details/Agenda:
>> https://docs.google.com/a/hotosm.org/document/d/
>> 1PUyBevgpRxM3EGk7g4FqAYw7mj1eOTUegJXY6PuVzwY/edit
>> 
>>
>> - 2015 Board/Chair Election Procedures:
>> https://docs.google.com/a/hotosm.org/document/d/1K1TUa_
>> 847Il1M3eVb1RMlONgqB5JusuO4HOj2QbspIo/edit#
>> 
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> A big Thank You to the current Board of Directors for another great
>> HOT year! Thank you to my fellow Election Committee members
>> (Heather, Severin and Boris) and again to our independent observer,
>> Michael Collinson!
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> May the election favor HOT!
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Russell Deffner
>>
>> Chairperson for the Voting Members
>>
>> russell.deff...@hotosm.org 
>>
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
>>
>> http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ 
>>
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Re: [HOT] Duplicate ways in Monrovia

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Tom,

Save often and you should be OK.

If I'm working on a task with ways that extend beyond it I'll trace them
otherwise the map is going to have arbitrary breaks in ways caused by our
methods of organising ourselves.

Cheers, Joseph
On 30 Sep 2014 08:10, "Tom Taylor"  wrote:

> But the other catch is the extension beyond the task block. I guess I
> could try to make the change and hope I don't create a conflict.
>
> Tom
>
> On 29/09/2014 8:56 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom
>>
>> When I see such duplicates, I try to keep the oldest one and if necessary
>> bring in infos from the other way to complete. Then I delete the new one.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>   De : Tom Taylor 
>> À : HOT Openstreetmap 
>> Envoyé le : Lundi 29 septembre 2014 18h40
>> Objet : [HOT] Duplicate ways in Monrovia
>>
>>
>> I grabbed 660#task/76. Basically it's done except that there are a
>> couple of roads where it appears someone first drew in the road without
>> a name. Someone else came along and drew another road with name. These
>> extend well beyond the boundaries of my current task block, so I don't
>> dare touch them.
>>
>> What is the recommended procedure for fixing this up?
>>
>> TomT5454
>> Tom Taylor
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Re: [HOT] 2014 Gaza Strip Follow up

[Joseph Reeves]

hi Fred,

Will there be a blog post about the Gaza activation? I know some GIS people
new to OSM that want to be involved in HOT and would appreciate a post to
read. The Ebola posts, for example, are great to show them (thanks Pierre).

I could help with the bogging if there's a problem of time and resources.

Cheers, Joseph





On 10 August 2014 17:53, Frederic Moine  wrote:

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Re: [HOT] Launching the hot mailing list in French

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

*"HOT leverages the OSM brand, which is an Open Community*
*So HOT is logically the Open Community to do with Humanitarian"*

Of course, however, OpenStreetMap doesn't just say "do what you like with
it", even if they have been very generous with the use of their name. This
popped up on Twitter as soon as you emailed:

https://twitter.com/raimondiand/status/487566063740407808

My point being, you shouldn't just stick the letters "HOT" on something and
claim that we're all open anyway, not if there's people in HOT that are
legally responsible for actions undertaken in that name (and some massive
projects bringing in cash).

(This is arguably going off topic)

Cheers, Joseph




On 11 July 2014 14:13, Fran Boon  wrote:

> On 11 July 2014 13:50, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> > The reason the "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team United States
> Incorporated"
> > is the legal name and not the HOT Foundation or any other variation is
> when
> > you incorporate a corporation you need to have terms like "Incorporated"
> in
> > the name. This is the case for non-profit or for-profit corporations.
>
> ok, good copy
>
> > Greenpeace when they operate in the United
> > States is called Greenpeace Inc, but you don't see people walking around
> > calling it Greenpeace Inc, they just call it Greenpeace.
>
> Right, the difference there is that Greenpeace has no parent org.
> HOT leverages the OSM brand, which is an Open Community
> So HOT is logically the Open Community to do with Humanitarian
> I am very supportive of the creation of a non-profit to help achieve
> all the things it can & is achieving, but I don't think that that
> entity can thereby claim total ownership of the brand...since this
> derives from the brand of the underlying community...
>
> > I think though Heather's point is there are better ways to communicate in
> > global communities and maybe just creating another mailing list isn't the
> > answer.
>
> Very easy for native English speakers to say...I think we should let
> the non-English people decide what's best for them...
>
> F
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Re: [HOT] Launching the hot mailing list in French

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all, me again,

*"but to me Heather's message was not "controlling" - she wasn't asking
for control, she was asking for discussion"*

I agree, but think we should agree on the use of the word "controlling" as
it's been used ambiguously so far in this thread.

I'd argue that Board members, or the Board as a whole shouldn't be
controlling the outcomes of these decisions, but it is vitally important
that someone controls the decision making process. By "controls" I mean
that someone should set a fair and repeatable system in place so that
everyone has equal opportunity to participate. Presently we have the
following situation:

1: A member makes a decision, acts upon it, nobody else has a say.

This is not right. We should have had one of the following:

2: A Board vote. If people want to get involved in this they could email
the Board their opinions, stand for Board membership in December and vote
for Board members based on their policies, manifesto, etc.
3: A CWG decision. If people wanted to get involved they could join the CWG.
4: An ED decision. If people felt strongly about this they could go to the
ED's employer, the Board, as per number 2.

Points 2, 3 & 4 lead to a decision that can be accountable to HOT's
members; this is hugely important and not something afforded by 1. As such,
I think that the creation of mailing lists in this manner is a mistake.

Cheers, Joseph




On 11 July 2014 12:46, Dan S  wrote:

> 2014-07-11 12:20 GMT+01:00 Fran Boon :
> > On 11 July 2014 12:01, Michael Collinson  wrote:
> >> support-but-not-control mission of the OSMF
> >
> > This is exactly what comes to my mind observing this discussion...I
> > would much prefer to see the HOT board being supportive rather than
> > trying to be controlling.
>
> I know we all read emails a bit differently from each other, but to me
> Heather's message was not "controlling" - she wasn't asking for
> control, she was asking for discussion. Related to that, I agree with
> what Joseph Reeves just wrote: it makes sense to discuss these things
> first, especially for HOT which _is_ more structured than OSM in
> general. I'll stop typing now because I think Joseph already put it
> well.
>
> Best wishes,
> Dan
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Re: [HOT] Launching the hot mailing list in French

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear Michael, all,

Typing this quickly as the day is going badly for me...

It's my opinion that the creation of HOT mailing lists require more
community input than was shown in this instance; whilst I know that we need
to be doing more to work in more languages than English, I am not convinced
that the creation of new HOT mailing lists is the way forward.

*"In line with that, our osmf-* lists are only generated after broader
discussion and may involve board sanction.  Should HOT reflect that
distinction in some way?"*

Yes. HOT is a legally defined membership organisation, like the OSMF, and
is not comparable with many of the other mailing lists. Dev lists, for
example, cater for people with shared interests; regional mailing lists
cater for people in the same place: The HOT list is different because it
serves as the primary communication channel for our organisation and its
members.

I think following the OSMF procedures is an excellent idea.

*"So, having a discussion over about some control over who and how folks
can use the word "HOT" or "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" is worth
having?"*

Certainly. I'm not sure how the Communications Working Group is getting on,
but they'd seem like a perfect team to be doing this. Otherwise, we have a
Board (to vote on things, please), or an Executive Director. Others may
well disagree with me, but I think it's important to use our "brand" (for
want of a better description) as best we can.

*"OSM lists on https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo
 are easy. HOT lists have an
extra layer in that they are effectively being hosted by a sister
organisation that HOT has no control over. Should HOT have any ground rules
that I can be guided by?"*

Perhaps HOT should be maintaining our own lists? Otherwise I'd defer again
to the Communications WG as above.

Thanks, Joseph







On 11 July 2014 12:01, Michael Collinson  wrote:

>  As mentioned, I create the OSM lists, so I hope these neutral
> observations help the discussion:
>
> Yes, indeed the OSM list system works in as loose and free-wheeling manner
> as possible along the support-but-not-control mission of the OSMF.  So
> unless I can think of a really strong reason, I just go ahead and create
> whatever list is requested provided that it is in some way OSM-related and
> that it is free for anyone to join and participate subject to etiquette
> guidelines.  I may nudge and suggest a bit, for example a better name or
> pointing out a potential overlap with another list, but that is all. To my
> recollection, I've only sought board guidance once. For OSM Just Do It
> ethos, it works well.
>
> However, I can see a number of reasons why a little time for HOT to
> discuss and have a good collective strategy is a good thing:
>
> 1) We (OpenStreetMap) do draw a firm distinction between OSM and OSMF,
> i.e. a broad community with fuzzy membership and a, well, bureaucratic
> organisation with with specific finite membership. In line with that, our
> osmf-* lists are only generated after broader discussion and may involve
> board sanction.  Should HOT reflect that distinction in some way?
>
> 2) When OpenStreetMap started, we did not explicitly consider branding. So
> it is not always clear what "OpenStreetMap" refers to. That can be a good
> thing, someone starts a weird project, it turns out to be useful and is
> absorbed into the OSM universe. But it can be a bad thing if someone
> represents themselves to governmental or commercial organisations in a way
> that might be damaging to the overall project. So, having a discussion over
> about some control over who and how folks can use the word "HOT" or
> "Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" is worth having?
>
> 3) OSM lists on https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo are easy. HOT
> lists have an extra layer in that they are effectively being hosted by a
> sister organisation that HOT has no control over. Should HOT have any
> ground rules that I can be guided by?
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> On 10/07/2014 15:26, Severin Menard wrote:
>
>   Hi Heather,
>
>  I am a bit surprised by your reaction, it seems you do not know well how
> the OSM lists work. Any group can ask OSMF (Mike Collinson is in charge of
> this) to create one, about a specific topic and/or a specific location.
> Here is the whole list of OSM talk lists:
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/ for you to figure out.
>
>  As you can see, there are very specific lists like eg
> Talk-gb-oxoncotswolds for Oxford, Oxfordshire and the Cotswolds in GB or
> Talk-it-trentino for the Trentino in Italy. These lists have been created
> by locals or people specifically interested in these regions; creating it
> does not require the permission of an "upper list" that would be the
> country one or the general talk list (without suffix). Regarding your
> background, you could eg create an OSM-Ushahidi list to discuss about the
> interactions between OSM and Ushahidi (and this would not be 

Re: [HOT] SDS Preparation/Project-Setup

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Alex,


Kate says I need to associate with a "feature" and I am still working on
understanding what a feature is.  Is that a multipoint geojson object?  Is
a doorway a feature if it is a way?  Should I be associating with buildings
instead?  I am thinking that nodes are not features, then?

I'm just jumping in without knowing what your project is. but I would guess
that the feature Kate is suggesting is any OSM feature: a way or a node.

A doorway represented in OSM as a way would work, but a node would
presumably be easier (just from a recording point of view).

My memory of SDS is hazy, but I'm pretty sure that a OSM node works as an
associable feature; in a doorway example, therefore, you'd put the building
into OSM, tag the doorway and associate your SDS entry with the doorway
feature ID.

For example. Lincoln College is your building:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/113000693

Your door:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2373213127

So your SDS data is tied to the feature: node 2373213127.

Does that help at all?

Cheers, Joseph









> Hello,
>
> I am asking for help with SDS. Could someone give me an overview of how to
> setup my SDS (Separate DataStaore) project?
>
> I have read the introduction PDF available on GitHub.  I am looking for
> lower level information.  I also have Emor's doc on setup of JOSM.
>
> We are surveying "people doing things" and associating that information
> with the location of the doorway of a building where they are doing things.
>
> Kate says I need to associate with a "feature" and I am still working on
> understanding what a feature is.  Is that a multipoint geojson object?  Is
> a doorway a feature if it is a way?  Should I be associating with buildings
> instead?  I am thinking that nodes are not features, then?
>
> I am asking for help to setup the geojson for the project, and for
> information about "other setup files" if any.
>
> I have specific question, should I put every tag I will use into the
> geojson definition?
> I saw in JOSM where i define my key for SDS.  Is this supposed to match my
> SDS project name?
> What other advice can you provide about setting up the project correctly
> the first time around, what things I might miss later?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
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Re: [HOT] Syria Activation

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

I've not looked at Syria mapping in any coordinated manner for a while now,
but there is some areas that we could start on; I've been thinking about
starting some Task Manager jobs for a while now as Bing imagery has
improved (I've not looked at the result of the recent MapBox / DigitalGlobe
/ iD announcement).

HOT have been asked to trace population centres, roads and POIs such as
places of worship. I think we can still do this without creating the risks
that Sev has previously mentioned. I understand that this might not be
getting the most from Syrian mappers interested, but I think it's a good
starting place for now.There are some other jobs that would be really
useful, such as matching existing OSM place names to visible towns /
villages on the imagery - a lot of this simply doesn't match up.

I'm on vacation at the moment, but can hopefully start a job later this
evening if it would be wanted. Anyone interested in the meantime could look
at my OSM edit history [0] to see areas that have recently become visible
on Bing.

Best, Joseph


[0]
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/IknowJoseph/history#map=8/36.235/39.397




On 17 April 2014 16:14, Severin Menard  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We need to be careful with the data we produce, cause it is well known the
> social medias in general are tracked by the Syrian government and that
> Point of Interests that should not be targeted unfortunately are. It would
> be really harmful eg to put the locations of mobile clinics or any health
> facility in OSM, as confirmed by a representative of a NGO of local medics
> I recently discussed with. I think for this crisis we should first
> discussed with humanitarian stakeholders to balance the benefits (I expect
> the Syrian government has more data and maps than the humanitarian relief
> organizations) and the harms of a imagery based mapping that could also be
> done more discretely than usual.
> What do think the readers of this list working for such relief
> organizations?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Russell Deffner <
> russell.deff...@hotosm.org> wrote:
>
>> No, anyone can use the damage tagging – please do!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Hanan Yazigi [mailto:hananyaz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:14 AM
>> *To:* Mikel Maron
>> *Cc:* hot@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Syria Activation
>>
>>
>>
>> I know some locations in Damascus. And in Homs governorate. But not in a
>> priority zone.
>>
>> But I can try to figure out how I can involve more syrians from different
>> areas and cities, or work with them on specific features.
>>
>> And also: I didn't find any layers about the destructions. I think it
>> would be a very interesting information. I remember that you use to map it.
>> Am I wrong?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> On 17 Apr 2014 20:03, "Mikel Maron"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hanan
>>
>>
>>
>> The Syrian Activation has been going for some time, but not recently
>> under an active projects. The exceptions have been import of data for
>> refugee camps in northern Jordan by UNHCR.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is still definitely a need to improve coverage in Syria. Are there
>> any particular regions that you have knowledge of, and that could use
>> greater detail, like the location and names of specific services? Perhaps
>> we can examine the state of things and think through some new tasks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your interest.
>>
>> Mikel
>>
>>
>>
>> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>
>> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:52 AM, Hanan Yazigi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm very interested by the "Syria Activation" project. It will be very
>> helpful for so many projects (UN or small local initiatives!).
>> I would be glad to participate.
>> I know well the country and the language (I'm syrian although I grew up
>> abroad). And I have a long experience with GIS and geographic data, data
>> quality, data analysis, web-mapping, etc...
>> How can we know more about the timeline of the project? And the tasks?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [HOT] Monitoring changesets that occurs only within a specific bounding box

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Edouard,

I use WhoDidIt to generate RSS feeds of changes in areas I'm interested in.
I find it works very well:

http://simon04.dev.openstreetmap.org/whodidit/

Cheers, Joseph





On 3 April 2014 12:54, Edouard LEGOUPIL  wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> In Jordan, Refugee camps base map  are maintained through OSM.
> Zaatari is an example:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/32.2933/36.3191
> and we are about to open a new camp here:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/31.9018/36.5787
>
> One recurrent question is about monitoring the changesets in order to
> avoid sabotage. I look at
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/history#map=15/32.2933/36.3266 but it gives
> me changesets that apply both within and beyond my bounding box. Filtering
> them manually is time consuming...
>
> Based on the wiki here (
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Query:_GET_.2Fapi.2F0.6.2Fchangesets),
> I looked at the API to do so.
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets works but the 2 detailed
> one below do not provide results:
>
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets/GET?bbox=32.266596,36.288786,32.278352,36.274366
>
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changesets/bbox=32.266596,36.288786,32.278352,36.274366
>
> Any hints on how to monitor changes that occurs only within the extend of
> a specific bbox ?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Edouard
>
>
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Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF

[Joseph Reeves]

Following a brief conversation on IRC I copy / pasted the Gdoc into the
blog:

http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2014-03-26_mapping_guinea_help_wanted

Heather, thanks for getting us started, I hope getting this posted earlier
wasn't bad form!

Cheers, Joseph


On 26 March 2014 14:24, Joseph Reeves  wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> Agree with your email. I think on this point, however,
>
>
> I don't think that anything should go out without the full endorsement of
>> the activation leads, since they have to "own" it
>>
>
> At the moment, things such as activation leads, or even the activation
> status, are fluid. My point is that we can put out a short blog post to ask
> people to help (the current one looks good and is ready to go, IMO); later,
> the activation organisation can be firmed up and this blog post can be
> largely forgotten. Nobody needs to own it.
>
> All we want at the moment is people to help mapping. This doesn't take
> anything from any future improved activation organisation.
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
>
> On 26 March 2014 14:16, Banick, Robert  wrote:
>
>>   I like the idea of a short blog post that can reach potential
>> contributors who aren't following our mailing list. We have to remember
>> that not everyone is as engaged as us when it comes to following mailing
>> lists. Like Joseph said, it gives people something to link to (like me,
>> tweeting, for instance). If we can reach even one more contributor then
>> surely that's a good thing.
>>
>>  It doesn't seem particularly important an to me who does it, but I
>> don't think that anything should go out without the full endorsement of the
>> activation leads, since they have to "own" it. I understand that the
>> organizers of this activation are already quite busy and like Heather's
>> compromise of pulling together text that can be edited and approved by the
>> activations leads. Thoughts?
>>
>>   Definitely something for a later working group to hammer out in more
>> detail though.
>>
>>   *Robert Banick* | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì 
>> American
>> Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org/>
>>
>> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>>
>> Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick
>>
>>   From: "mikel_ma...@yahoo.com" 
>> Reply-To: "mikel_ma...@yahoo.com" 
>> Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:14 AM
>> To: Severin MENARD , Heather Leson <
>> heatherle...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" 
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support
>> MSF
>>
>>   Good point Severin. We don't actually have a clear guideline or common
>> understanding written up on our customs and practices when it comes to
>> blogging, blogging and activation, and activations generally. This is a
>> mandate we can bring to appropriate working groups (activation,
>> communications) to make clear.
>>
>>  For the current blog post, I think it's great Heather is supporting
>> this by helping coordinate. I don't see any issue with whoever is
>> appropriate taking authorship of a collaborative post.
>>
>> -Mikel
>>
>>  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>>
>>
>>  On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:35 AM, Severin Menard <
>> severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Hi Heather,
>>
>>  The custom is more the people leading the Activation post on the blog,
>> with a bit more context and past/current/coming activities.
>>
>>  Actually, it has not been decided if it is an official HOT activation
>> or a simple monitoring, and who is leading it. I just initiated the very
>> beginning but I am not very available and Pierre and Andrew have run the
>> activities. How do you feel to monitor this, guys? Amadou, who I think has
>> already visited Guinea and train people there on OSM, could also help if
>> interested and available.
>>
>>  Sincerely,
>>
>>  Severin
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Heather Leson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Morning, I started a draft blog post about this activation. Can you
>> help edit? I'm at work and would need someone to help lead curate the right
>> content. This will help with our wider outreach.
>>
>>  I'll circle back in 3 hours and post it to the blog.
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/a/hotosm.org/document/d/1I5IW9Twdx-HPGAb2w7iJ17CXtvWAIDfvmj02kg45ECI/edit
>>
>>  Thank yo

Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Robert,

Agree with your email. I think on this point, however,

I don't think that anything should go out without the full endorsement of
> the activation leads, since they have to "own" it
>

At the moment, things such as activation leads, or even the activation
status, are fluid. My point is that we can put out a short blog post to ask
people to help (the current one looks good and is ready to go, IMO); later,
the activation organisation can be firmed up and this blog post can be
largely forgotten. Nobody needs to own it.

All we want at the moment is people to help mapping. This doesn't take
anything from any future improved activation organisation.

Cheers, Joseph




On 26 March 2014 14:16, Banick, Robert  wrote:

>   I like the idea of a short blog post that can reach potential
> contributors who aren't following our mailing list. We have to remember
> that not everyone is as engaged as us when it comes to following mailing
> lists. Like Joseph said, it gives people something to link to (like me,
> tweeting, for instance). If we can reach even one more contributor then
> surely that's a good thing.
>
>  It doesn't seem particularly important an to me who does it, but I don't
> think that anything should go out without the full endorsement of the
> activation leads, since they have to "own" it. I understand that the
> organizers of this activation are already quite busy and like Heather's
> compromise of pulling together text that can be edited and approved by the
> activations leads. Thoughts?
>
>   Definitely something for a later working group to hammer out in more
> detail though.
>
>   *Robert Banick* | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì 
> American
> Red Cross 
>
> 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
>
> Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick
>
>   From: "mikel_ma...@yahoo.com" 
> Reply-To: "mikel_ma...@yahoo.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:14 AM
> To: Severin MENARD , Heather Leson <
> heatherle...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" 
> Subject: Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support
> MSF
>
>   Good point Severin. We don't actually have a clear guideline or common
> understanding written up on our customs and practices when it comes to
> blogging, blogging and activation, and activations generally. This is a
> mandate we can bring to appropriate working groups (activation,
> communications) to make clear.
>
>  For the current blog post, I think it's great Heather is supporting this
> by helping coordinate. I don't see any issue with whoever is appropriate
> taking authorship of a collaborative post.
>
> -Mikel
>
>  * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>
>  On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:35 AM, Severin Menard <
> severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Hi Heather,
>
>  The custom is more the people leading the Activation post on the blog,
> with a bit more context and past/current/coming activities.
>
>  Actually, it has not been decided if it is an official HOT activation or
> a simple monitoring, and who is leading it. I just initiated the very
> beginning but I am not very available and Pierre and Andrew have run the
> activities. How do you feel to monitor this, guys? Amadou, who I think has
> already visited Guinea and train people there on OSM, could also help if
> interested and available.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
>  Severin
>
>
>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Heather Leson wrote:
>
>  Morning, I started a draft blog post about this activation. Can you help
> edit? I'm at work and would need someone to help lead curate the right
> content. This will help with our wider outreach.
>
>  I'll circle back in 3 hours and post it to the blog.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/a/hotosm.org/document/d/1I5IW9Twdx-HPGAb2w7iJ17CXtvWAIDfvmj02kg45ECI/edit
>
>  Thank you
>
>
>  Heather
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherle...@gmail.com
> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
>
>
>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
>
>   Hi Jean-Marc
>
> Did not have my breakfeast yet. We are completing the description of the
> three Task Manager jobs.
>
> Imagery for JOSM
>
> http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_msf_pleiades1a/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>
>
>
>
>  Pierre
>
> --
> *De :* Jean-Marc Liotier 
> *À :* Pierre Béland ; HOT Discussion list <
> hot@openstreetmap.org>; Talk 
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 26 mars 2014 7h41
> *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF
>
>   On 26/03/2014 12:23, Pierre Béland wrote:
>
>   Following the Ebola outbreak, MSF Switzearland needs rapidly maps of
> three towns. Thy are requesting since this area is actually unmapped. New
> imagery have been obtained.
>
>
> Could you please point to that imagery ?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF

[Joseph Reeves]

>
> It seems to me a bit early in the process to send  a Blog update


The idea of a blog post would be to ask people to help. It will reach
people that perhaps don't read the mailing lists or Twitter. I don't see
how this can be done too early. In addition, it gives users of other
services something to link back to.

Cheers, Joseph




On 26 March 2014 13:59, Pierre Béland  wrote:

> Plus Jean-Guilhem as usual who as taken care of processing the imagery.
>
> It seems to me a bit early in the process to send  a Blog update.  For
> these first steps, I sent emails to HOT and Crisismappers plus twitter note.
>
>
> Pierre
>
>   --
>  *De :* Severin Menard 
> *À :* Heather Leson 
> *Cc :* HOT Discussion list 
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 26 mars 2014 9h35
> *Objet :* Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support
> MSF
>
> My mistake, I forgot to mention Fred who has provided a great help for the
> imagery, among the potential leads
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Severin Menard 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Heather,
>
> The custom is more the people leading the Activation post on the blog,
> with a bit more context and past/current/coming activities.
>
> Actually, it has not been decided if it is an official HOT activation or a
> simple monitoring, and who is leading it. I just initiated the very
> beginning but I am not very available and Pierre and Andrew have run the
> activities. How do you feel to monitor this, guys? Amadou, who I think has
> already visited Guinea and train people there on OSM, could also help if
> interested and available.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Heather Leson wrote:
>
> Morning, I started a draft blog post about this activation. Can you help
> edit? I'm at work and would need someone to help lead curate the right
> content. This will help with our wider outreach.
>
> I'll circle back in 3 hours and post it to the blog.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/a/hotosm.org/document/d/1I5IW9Twdx-HPGAb2w7iJ17CXtvWAIDfvmj02kg45ECI/edit
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Leson
> heatherle...@gmail.com
> Twitter: HeatherLeson
> Blog: textontechs.com
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
>
> Hi Jean-Marc
>
> Did not have my breakfeast yet. We are completing the description of the
> three Task Manager jobs.
>
> Imagery for JOSM
>
> http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_msf_pleiades1a/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>
>
>
>
> Pierre
>
>   --
>  *De :* Jean-Marc Liotier 
> *À :* Pierre Béland ; HOT Discussion list <
> hot@openstreetmap.org>; Talk 
> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 26 mars 2014 7h41
> *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF
>
> On 26/03/2014 12:23, Pierre Béland wrote:
>
>  Following the Ebola outbreak, MSF Switzearland needs rapidly maps of
> three towns. Thy are requesting since this area is actually unmapped. New
> imagery have been obtained.
>
>
> Could you please point to that imagery ?
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
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>
>
>
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>
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Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

The custom is more the people leading the Activation post on the blog, with
> a bit more context and past/current/coming activities.
>

I don't care who does the blogging, but could someone do it as soon as
possible? ;-) I have wanted to link to *something* about our work here, but
a few mailing list posts isn't really enough. It's understandable that
people organising this sort of work will be very busy, so well done Heather
on taking the blog initiative.

Actually, it has not been decided if it is an official HOT activation or a
> simple monitoring, and who is leading it.
>

As far as the blog's concerned, I don't think this is too important at the
moment. We've got a load of tasks that need completing; let's blog about
that. Again, I don't care who does the blogging, as long as someone does it
quickly enough so that others can get involved.

Cheers, Joseph







On 26 March 2014 13:33, Severin Menard  wrote:

> Hi Heather,
>
> The custom is more the people leading the Activation post on the blog,
> with a bit more context and past/current/coming activities.
>
> Actually, it has not been decided if it is an official HOT activation or a
> simple monitoring, and who is leading it. I just initiated the very
> beginning but I am not very available and Pierre and Andrew have run the
> activities. How do you feel to monitor this, guys? Amadou, who I think has
> already visited Guinea and train people there on OSM, could also help if
> interested and available.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Heather Leson wrote:
>
>> Morning, I started a draft blog post about this activation. Can you help
>> edit? I'm at work and would need someone to help lead curate the right
>> content. This will help with our wider outreach.
>>
>> I'll circle back in 3 hours and post it to the blog.
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/a/hotosm.org/document/d/1I5IW9Twdx-HPGAb2w7iJ17CXtvWAIDfvmj02kg45ECI/edit
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> Heather
>>
>> Heather Leson
>> heatherle...@gmail.com
>> Twitter: HeatherLeson
>> Blog: textontechs.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Pierre Béland  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jean-Marc
>>>
>>> Did not have my breakfeast yet. We are completing the description of the
>>> three Task Manager jobs.
>>>
>>> Imagery for JOSM
>>>
>>> http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_msf_pleiades1a/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pierre
>>>
>>>   --
>>>  *De :* Jean-Marc Liotier 
>>> *À :* Pierre Béland ; HOT Discussion list <
>>> hot@openstreetmap.org>; Talk 
>>> *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 26 mars 2014 7h41
>>> *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF
>>>
>>> On 26/03/2014 12:23, Pierre Béland wrote:
>>>
>>>  Following the Ebola outbreak, MSF Switzearland needs rapidly maps of
>>> three towns. Thy are requesting since this area is actually unmapped. New
>>> imagery have been obtained.
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you please point to that imagery ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Polo Order for SotM-US

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Simone,

Hopefully we'll see each other at a future HOT event, otherwise we can work
something out with postage and paypal.

Cheers, Joseph




On 13 March 2014 08:37, Simone Cortesi  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Joseph Reeves 
> wrote:
> > Add yourself to the list and I'll pick one up for you. I'll bring it to
> the
> > as yet unplanned and unannounced end of April HOT London meeting.
>
> Thanks, Done!
>
> how do I pay?
>
> --
> -S
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Polo Order for SotM-US

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Simone,

Add yourself to the list and I'll pick one up for you. I'll bring it to the
as yet unplanned and unannounced end of April HOT London meeting.

Cheers, Joseph





On 12 March 2014 10:25, Simone Cortesi  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Harry Wood  wrote:
> > I won't make it to SOTM US. Would be great if you could fly back with
> one for me!
>
> me too...I so much want one.
>
> I will be in london end of april and again in july.
>
> any one able to help me?
>
> Thanks,
> S.
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Polo Order for SotM-US

[Joseph Reeves]

Of course, no worries - I'll bring it along to a OSM London event.

Joseph




On 12 March 2014 10:08, Harry Wood  wrote:

> I won't make it to SOTM US. Would be great if you could fly back with one
> for me!
>
>
> ________
> From: Joseph Reeves 
> To: Kate Chapman 
> Cc: hot 
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2014, 10:02
> Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT Polo Order for SotM-US
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> If UK folks one, let me know - I'm SoTM-US'ing and I'm sure I could pick
> you up a tshirt and sort out something for delivery when I'm back in
> Blighty a couple of weeks later.
>
> Cheers, Joseph
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 March 2014 09:46, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> >
> >If you do in fact want a polo. Please put your order in on the hackpad
> >by Saturday:  https://hackpad.com/HOT-Polos-oUlO7VQ3R9i
> >
> >Just to review I'm having them made in Jakarta and will bring them to
> SotM-US.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-Kate
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> The team in Indonesia designed polo shirts as part of the project. I'm
> >> going to be traveling to the US in April and will attend SotM-US. If
> >> people are interested in a shirt please note on this(1) hackpad I
> >> made. I'll front the cost of the shirts and you can pay me at SotM-US.
> >>
> >> Note: I don't want to deal with shipping, so delivery is only to the DC
> area.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -Kate
> >>
> >> (1) https://hackpad.com/HOT-Polos-oUlO7VQ3R9i
> >
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Re: [HOT] HOT Polo Order for SotM-US

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

If UK folks one, let me know - I'm SoTM-US'ing and I'm sure I could pick
you up a tshirt and sort out something for delivery when I'm back in
Blighty a couple of weeks later.

Cheers, Joseph




On 12 March 2014 09:46, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> If you do in fact want a polo. Please put your order in on the hackpad
> by Saturday:  https://hackpad.com/HOT-Polos-oUlO7VQ3R9i
>
> Just to review I'm having them made in Jakarta and will bring them to
> SotM-US.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Kate
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > The team in Indonesia designed polo shirts as part of the project. I'm
> > going to be traveling to the US in April and will attend SotM-US. If
> > people are interested in a shirt please note on this(1) hackpad I
> > made. I'll front the cost of the shirts and you can pay me at SotM-US.
> >
> > Note: I don't want to deal with shipping, so delivery is only to the DC
> area.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Kate
> >
> > (1) https://hackpad.com/HOT-Polos-oUlO7VQ3R9i
>
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Re: [HOT] Engineering for You Video Contest

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Hotties,

Are there still HOT video cameras in the field? I was recorded on one in
Indonesia (Thanks Katrina!) and seem to remember that the others were in..
Sengal, perhaps?

Cheers, Joseph




On 7 March 2014 16:00, Russell Deffner  wrote:

> Oh, sorry - that other link directs you through another website, here is
> the direct share link:
>
> Check out the National Academy of Engineering's Engineering For You  Video
> Contest here: http://www.e4uvideocontest.org
>
> =Russ
>
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Re: [HOT] University Course on VGI and Crisis Mapping - OSM Exercise

[Joseph Reeves]

It may be worth contacting the task creator before starting mass editing,
however, just our of politeness if nothing else. There's a large Indonesia
project, for example, that could be good, but also could be intended for
local training.

I'd be happy to create a large Syria task if there's nothing else for you
to get into :)

Cheers, Joseph





On 5 November 2013 13:44, Iván Sánchez  wrote:

> El Martes, 5 de noviembre de 2013 14:30:39 usted escribió:
> > Thanks Ivan :-)
> >
> > I thought there might be a patricular project very urgent at the moment!
> >
> > But then, i will just pick a task for the students!
>
> If there is a very very urgent HOT project, and newcomers can help, there
> will
> be a task set at the tasking manager. :-)
>
> IIRC, urgent or important tasks are shown at the top of the list.
>
>
> Best,
> --
> Iván Sánchez Ortega 
>
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Re: [HOT] Help Validating

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Alex,

Click the workflow button on the Tasking Manager site - you then get the
imagery agreement to accept - click workflow again and it gives you the URL
and some JOSM instructions.

Cheers, Joseph





On 9 October 2013 12:19, Alex Rollin  wrote:

> Where is that?
>
> I am in iD, looking at Backgrounds, I don't see a checkbox.  I selected
> the Vietnam layer.
>
> Can I see it in JOSM?
>
> --
> Alex
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> Agree that you will just use the imagery for mapping in OSM by
>> clicking the license agreement (though more of a request than a
>> license), then it will show you the URL.
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Alex Rollin 
>> wrote:
>> > Where is the imagery?  I can't see anything?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alex
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> I've been working in Hai Phong, Vietnam for the past week and a half
>> >> with the Vietnam Maritime University. Our goal is to map all the
>> >> streets in Hai Phong. Today the team finished digitizing from the
>> >> tasking manager.
>> >>
>> >> If anyone is interested could you help review the work(1)? Rather than
>> >> fix it if you validate a tile and it appears not done could you throw
>> >> it back into the "unfinished pile"? (Posting mapping suggestions here
>> >> would be great as well, I've made a presentation which we will be
>> >> going over the suggestions on Friday(2)).
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> -Kate
>> >>
>> >> (1) http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/320
>> >> (2)
>> >>
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Re: [HOT] HOT stick (Portable Apps) for Training/Workshops

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

It doesn't contain everything on the list, but Portable GIS includes QGIS:

http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html

Back to portable-apps, I've looked at it briefly and see that it includes
java - so running the josm-latest.jar would presumably be no problem.

Cheers, Joseph






On 27 September 2013 09:47, Theodin  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Being a long-time member and developer at portableapps.com, I had to
> smile when the term popped up here on the HOT mailing list.
>
> Of the apps listed below by maning sambale, all are already there and
> widely used except for QGIS, JOSM and GPSBabel. I have been wanting to try
> to get JOSM portable for my own use so I will see that I find some time
> over the weekend. The others shouldnt be a problem as they are all open
> source and thus redistributable if Firefox is used as the internet browser
> and Sumatra pdf as the pdf reader.
>
> The easiest thing for updates would be to get all the apps into the
> portableapps lineup as official apps but I cant guarantee for that.
>
> Besides that, I think its worth trying the Live system idea other have put
> forward as it allows for a more controlled environment. the downside is
> that it might not be usable everywhere.
>
> Thats all for now - Simeon
>
> Am 26.09.2013 04:47 schrieb maning sambale:
>
>  Dear HOTties,
>>
>> Has anyone tried building a USB Stick that runs all the needed
>> applications for an OSM Training?
>>
>> For a series of training we will conduct, we are anticipating a lot of
>> different configurations and MS Windows versions.  They may use a
>> computer lab or their own laptops.
>>
>> Instead of just giving the participants copies of the software
>> installers, we are thinking of building a PortableApp [0] stick
>> containing all the needed apps and resources.
>>
>> Anyone tried this approach?  How is it effective?
>>
>> A few things we want in the stick are:
>> * JOSM including all the necessary plugins (FieldPapers, Notes,
>> DirectUpload, GPXEdit, Building tools, Presets, GeoChat, Measurement,
>> Mirrored downloads, Reverter, Terracer)
>> * GPSBabel
>> * QGIS
>> * PDF reader
>> * Firefox or Chrome
>> * 7-Zip
>> * ClamWin
>> * Notepad++
>> * Learning materials (either offline or pdf version of learnOSM)
>> * Installers - installers of the above software
>>
>>
>> [0] http://portableapps.com/apps
>>
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Re: [HOT] Humanitarian layer on osm.org

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Jonathan,

I've not worked on this rendering, so will talk rather vaguely, but on the
example page there's the key for "Water & Sanitation", for example:
http://hotosm.github.io/HDM-CartoCSS/#13/19.6718/-72.1304

The difference between potable and non potable water sources is, of course,
hugely important in situations such as Haiti cholera outbreak. Having these
features more visible on the map may help in situations such as Kalemie:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/312

Cheers, Joseph




On 25 September 2013 11:56, Jonathan  wrote:

> Thanks Fran, but can you give me examples of the types of features that
> relief operations want highlighted?
>
> http://bigfatfrog67.me
>
>
> On 25/09/2013 11:44, Fran Boon wrote:
>
>> On 25 September 2013 11:28, Jonathan  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joseph, I hadn't spotted it.  It's always useful to repeat stuff
>>> you
>>> think everyone else knows as there's always someone who doesn't :-)
>>>
>> +1 - I hadn't seen it & am excited to see it there :)
>> (Can finally now add tileset as option to Sahana for 1 thing!)
>>
>>  I like the style but what is the rationale behind it?  Is it meant to be
>>> "anational" or highlight certain aspects of the map?
>>>
>> Highlight features more relevant to developing country contexts &/or
>> relief operations in specific.
>>
>> F
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Re: [HOT] Humanitarian layer on osm.org

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Bob,

There's more details on the github page, but the quickest way to get into
it is to check the preview for a (clickable) key:

http://hotosm.github.io/HDM-CartoCSS/#13/19.6718/-72.1304

Cheers, Joseph




On 25 September 2013 11:07, Bob Kerr
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there a key or further explanation, I would like to show this off at
> our scottish conference.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bob
>
>   ----------
>  *From:* Joseph Reeves 
> *To:* hot 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 September 2013, 10:50
> *Subject:* [HOT] Humanitarian layer on osm.org
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to mention this, although I'm sure many have already seen
> it, and I don't know anything about how it got to the main page, but...
> It's really good to see the HDM-CartoCSS layer as an option on osm.org:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/38.89758/-77.04268&layers=H
> https://github.com/hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS
>
> I just noticed this yesterday; it looks great!
>
> Cheers, Joseph
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[HOT] Humanitarian layer on osm.org

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

I just wanted to mention this, although I'm sure many have already seen it,
and I don't know anything about how it got to the main page, but... It's
really good to see the HDM-CartoCSS layer as an option on osm.org:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/38.89758/-77.04268&layers=H
https://github.com/hotosm/HDM-CartoCSS

I just noticed this yesterday; it looks great!

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[HOT] HOT September Board Meeting

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

Today we had our September Board meeting - it was a big one with many
important issues discussed and acted upon. Please see the summary below and
the links to the archived version and minutes.

I still owe you the minutes for our July meeting; these will be available
soon.

Best, Joseph



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Meeting Minutes:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zABWRRm3Nrl7eIdeik4xBCZdaoBjxjv0lOjVGVa42OY/edit#

Our first meeting Since July as we missed the August meeting due to a
number of issues: A busy but focused meeting during which we really tried
to get some strategic matters pinned down and formalised.

The headline issue of our previous business discussion is that HOT has a
cash flow issue, largely caused by a waiting for payment on invoices. The
process of being paid is progressing as usual in most cases; OSM France,
however, is a stand out example due to the amount of time we've been
waiting. Our current expenditures are largely project based, so not
impacted outright, but we have to be careful when project spending to
ensure that we don't run out of cash. Other fund-raising measures are
progressing and we have added a donate page to the website:
http://hot.openstreetmap.org/donate

Elsewhere in ongoing business we have heard that the Tech Working Group,
Activation Working Group, HOT Code of Conduct, HOT Strategy Document, open
Project Reporting & UAV Policy are all progressing well. Of course, we
welcome input from the HOT community in all of these areas.


The Board voted on three important pieces of new business:

   - The Board unanimously agreed that no further partnering with OSM
   France would take place until payment for previous work was received.


   - The Board approved 5 in favour, 2 against, to solidify the project
   planning process.


   - The Board approved 5 in favour, 2 against, to confirm the role of the
   Executive Director. In brief we agreed that "The ED has the decision making
   authority on personnel matters, including hiring, firing and probation."
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Re: [HOT] HOT house hack - Mon-Fri next week near Worksop

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

It seems that Internet connectivity is an issue for a number of people -
I'm expecting to have a number of MiFis with Data SIMs delivered for us to
use in the bunk house. They're being donated, so I've promised that we're
not going to be pushing gigabytes around, but there should be plenty for
email, JOSM, github, etc.

Cheers, Joseph


On 4 September 2013 12:04, Harry Wood  wrote:

> Ladies and gentlemen
>
> You remember the HOT HOUSE HACK plan? :
>
> Humanitarian hackers are gathering in a bunkhouse near Worksop in the days
> following State Of The Map (staying Monday night through to Thursday
> night).  Hunkered down in this countryside "basic accommodation", we'll be
> working on all sorts of tools in and around HOT and OpenStreetMap in
> general. We'll also be hacking on documentation, and discussing processes
> to improve the way we bring maps to the world. We maybe be doing a bit of
> disaster simulating (particularly regarding poor internet connection!) and
> we'll certainly get out for some fresh air and mapping in the countryside
> too. Apart from anything else it will be a great way to prolong the
> face-to-face time we get at State Of The Map, and socialise with felling
> OpenStreetMap enthusiasts.
>
> Why am I telling you this?  Well we had a few last minute drop-outs.
> Obviously this is pretty short notice but if you're within easy travelling
> distance, or if you're already in Birmingham for SOTM and in the week
> following the conference, come join in with the HOT house hack! For more
> details go to this hackpad:
>
> https://hackpad.com/HOT-House-2013-lm1cEL25GKl
>
>
> If you'd like to join in, you can edit the hack pad to put your name on
> the list. Maybe drop us an email too.
>
> Hope to be seeing some of you soon!
>
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Re: [HOT] osm.org : permanent link

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Amadou,

The "share" tab on the right hand side includes the link option (the same
as the old permalink). It also allows you to add a marker, if that's what
you want to do.

You can also get a permalink more quickly by right clicking on the "view"
option at the top of the map and doing "copy link location" (or whatever
the equivalent in your browser is).

Cheers, Joseph






2013/8/29 Amadou NDONG 

> Bonjour,
> je ne vois plus depuis temps la fonctionnalité sur osm.org le lien
> "permanent link".
> j'aime bien les améliorations qui ont été ajoutées sur le site mais
> j'avoue que c'était trés utile.
> Qu'est ce qui s'est passé ?
>
> Hello,
> i can't get " permanet link" now in the osm.org website.
> I like the improvements that have been added but I admit that it was very
> useful.
> What happened?
>
> Amadou
>
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Re: [HOT] Small but VERY URGENT mapping job in Central African Republic

[Joseph Reeves]

HI all,

The task is here: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/273

I'd suggest pasting that URL into your changeset comments so that other
users can see the original task details and provide help should they want
to.

Cheers, Joseph





On 10 July 2013 15:19, Andrew Buck  wrote:

> We got a request from a Doctors Without Borders ground team in the Central
> African Republic.  They have already started tracing some buildings
> themselves along two roads and want us to help them so they can get back to
> helping people.  I have set up a task manager job.  We should try to have
> this done by this evening.
>
> -AndrewBuck
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Re: [HOT] OSMTraker problem

[Joseph Reeves]

If getting the phone online is a problem then I would try just leaving it
outside for half and hour or so and seeing it it picks up a fix.

I can't remember if Android 2.2 does it, but more recent Android versions
will show the GPS state in the status bar (Flashing means it's trying to
acquire a fix, a steady icon means it's got a fix? I think that's how it
it).

Cheers, Joseph





On 5 July 2013 13:49, Idriss TINTO  wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
> Thank you for your answer.
> Every thing is ok, except the internet connexion. I'll solve it and see if
> it change something.
>
>
> 2013/7/5 Joseph Reeves 
>
>> Hi Idriss,
>>
>> I've not used OSMTracker, but if it's waiting for a GPS fix you'll need
>> to make sure that:
>>
>> 1: GPS is enabled in the phone's Location settings
>> 2: You've got a clear view of the sky
>> 3: You've got some network connectivity (mobile data or wifi) so the
>> phone can download some Assisted GPS (AGPS) information. It'll work without
>> this, but it's much quicker to get a fix if you've got Internet access. It
>> may take 15 minutes or more to get a fix without AGPS.
>>
>> If it still doesn't work could you try a different application for
>> comparison? MyTracks, for example, usually works without any fuss. There
>> are also GPS information apps available that will tell you the current
>> state of the GPS service and may help troubleshoot any ongoing issues.
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 July 2013 13:33, Idriss TINTO  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I'm a Burkinabè Friend Of OSM and i'm trying to run OSMTracker on my
>>> android 2.2 phone. When I start the app, it keep "waiting to fix GPS before
>>> enable the buttons". Can anyone help me fix this?
>>> thank you
>>>
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Re: [HOT] OSMTraker problem

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Idriss,

I've not used OSMTracker, but if it's waiting for a GPS fix you'll need to
make sure that:

1: GPS is enabled in the phone's Location settings
2: You've got a clear view of the sky
3: You've got some network connectivity (mobile data or wifi) so the phone
can download some Assisted GPS (AGPS) information. It'll work without this,
but it's much quicker to get a fix if you've got Internet access. It may
take 15 minutes or more to get a fix without AGPS.

If it still doesn't work could you try a different application for
comparison? MyTracks, for example, usually works without any fuss. There
are also GPS information apps available that will tell you the current
state of the GPS service and may help troubleshoot any ongoing issues.

Cheers, Joseph






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> Hi!
> I'm a Burkinabè Friend Of OSM and i'm trying to run OSMTracker on my
> android 2.2 phone. When I start the app, it keep "waiting to fix GPS before
> enable the buttons". Can anyone help me fix this?
> thank you
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[HOT] June 2013 Board Meeting Minutes

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

tl;dr June's board meeting took place via conference call at the end of the
month. A number of items, both ongoing and new were discussed, including
Working Groups (List readers, please get involved if you'd like to!), sys
admin hiring and the potentials (positive and negative) of UAV usage.

A quick summary can be found below,

Thanks, Joseph

Wiki Summary
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Meetings/Board/20_June_2013
GDoc Minutes

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UmLO9bZqTmMka-A22Vkl0CDgBPY26Nlkc1Mtkys4N14/edit#
 Summary

Another busy Board meeting building on previous discussions and introducing
new topics; main points are as follows. The HOT strategy document continues
to be worked upon as does input into the Activation Protocol / Activation
and Technical Working Groups. Meetings for the later two were to be held
with the community on IRC (these will have happened by the time these
minutes become public). We will soon be interviewing / appointing somebody
for the advertised Sys Admin position. We are looking to nominate a HOT
member to the position of CyberSteward with CitizenLab. We discussed the
possibility of a Board face-to-face meeting; SotM Birmingham is one
possible potential, although not all Board members will be able to attend.
We will continue to investigate funding potentials for a meeting that can
be better attended. On the subject of funding, there was some confusion as
to the requirement of a solicitation license; we are still unclear about
the rules in this area and will assume for now that a license is required
and that we are currently unable to solicit for donations.

UAV usage for HOT produced imagery was discussed considerably. Board
members agree that this technology is exciting and of enormous possible
benefit, but concerns were raised regarding HOT's liability as both an
imagery producer and in the event of damage or injury caused by our use of
these vehicles. At present we are not insured against the consequences of a
UAV accident and we are unaware of what the potential liability may be; in
this respect UAV usage is dramatically different from our other activities
in the field. We are aiming to answer our current questions and draft a
policy concerning the use of UAVs. Mikel raised the issue of making our
project reports openly accessible and informed us that Robert Soden will be
writing an account of the Haiti response. Kate raised the issue of project
scoping on paid time as currently this is an activity that often goes
unfunded; this fits with a broader issue of time tracking and needs to be
discussed further. Nicolas introduced a number of topics that we were
unfortunately unable to discuss due to time constraints; these can be
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[HOT] May Board Meeting Minutes

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi All,

Please find attached the minutes from our Board Meeting last week.
Apologies for the delay in getting them to you - Mikel and myself got these
ready for dissemination at the end of last week, but I've been unable to
actually pull the pieces together until now.

tl;dr A busy board meeting within which communications, finances and
fund-raising dominated. Also includes interesting news for people that may
want to work for HOT in a technical role, or volunteer with us.

Thanks as ever,

Joseph



https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Meetings/Board/9_May_2013
GDoc Minutes

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DJMnueMj0zGhQV8ErjgwuB0LIV-9LmgTMWr87fmNQXU/edit#
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A busy board meeting with much continued from the previous meeting
including the HOT code, the revised strategy document, activation protocol,
tech working group and the security and emergency policy. Many of these
issues could do with input from non-board Hotties, so please email the list
if there's anything you would like to get involved with.

Much of the remainder of the meeting was discussing various aspects of
communication, finances and fund-raising. The creation of a sys admin role
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[HOT] Hotties take note! SotM registration open

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

I'm sure many of you will have seen through the usual OSM communication
channels, but the State of the Map registration is now open. May is the
early bird month, so if you know you're coming it'd be best to get signed
up before June comes along.

Early bird pricing is as follows:

Regular: £240
Community*: £60

There's a further £10 discount for OSM Foundation members; I'm just waiting
on the code to come through into my inbox for that.

Hopefully we'll have a good HOT representation in Birmingham this September!

Best, Joseph


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[HOT] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Call for Presentations - SotM 2013 (annual conference)

[Joseph Reeves]

hi all,

Hopefully you've seen the SotM Call for Presentations. Hotties may also be
interested in taking advantage of the Poster Exhibition that's being
organised - it could be really good for people that are unable to
physically attend the conference. There's a few of us here in the UK (and
I'm currently sat next to an A1 printer), so we'll be able to arrange local
printing for HOT posters if needed.

Best, Joseph



-- Forwarded message --
From: Rob Nickerson 
Date: 23 April 2013 19:48
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Call for Presentations - SotM 2013 (annual
conference)
To: t...@openstreetmap.org


Just to add a little more to the Call for Presentations:

This year I personally want to try and get as many people involved as
possible. We are therefore hoping to have a Poster Exhibition for people
who may not be able to attend in person (we can print them locally). If
this sounds interesting to you, please use the same form and specify
"Poster" as the "Session Format". Posters can be mainly pictorial, or
include text. You can bring it yourself or send an electronic copy for
local printing (Sponsorship to cover printing costs would be much
appreciated).


http://www.stateofthemap.org/info/call-presentations/
(Call for Presentations closes on Monday 10 June 2013.)





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Re: [HOT] Access to ArcGIS and Testing the HOT Export Tool

[Joseph Reeves]

hi Kate,

>The other reported bug I should have mentioned and neglected to is some
polygons showing that they have empty areas. >The suspected issue is that
the polygon directions are going the wrong way.

Just to clarify, polygons should go in a clockwise direction? I wonder if
any of the KeepRight-esque services check for this?

As for projections, would it be worth noting the used projection on the
download page?

Thanks, Joseph






On 18 April 2013 09:33, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Hi Stéphane,
>
> Yes the projection is one of the issues. And we did discover that changing
> the projection does in fact cause issues for QGIS. Potentially we could
> switch the data to WGS 84 instead of Web Mercator.
>
> The other reported bug I should have mentioned and neglected to is some
> polygons showing that they have empty areas. The suspected issue is that
> the polygon directions are going the wrong way.
>
> Best,
>
> -Kate
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:
>
>> Hi Maning
>>
>> this is probably due to happen with any ArcGIS version.
>>
>> I'd just like to add that this is not a major blocking issue.
>>
>> ArcGIS will still be able to open, display and use the data. It will
>> however not be able to automatically align it properly with other datasets
>> that are using other coordinate systems. It will also not be able to
>> calculate distances and surfaces. For all this, the user needs to manually
>> define the coordinate system.
>>
>> I would assume that this isn't a problem for advanced GIS users (like
>> MapAction) but it can be confusing for people who don't know so much about
>> those things.
>>
>> I would also assume (but needs to be tested) that an ArcGIS-compatible
>> prj file would then create problems for Qgis.
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>> --
>> "Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants
>> malheureux" -- Albert Einstein
>>
>> "A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason
>> enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet soon
>> it is the journey that makes or unmakes you." -- Nicolas Bouvier
>>
>> Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:45 AM, maning sambale <
>> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Stéphane.  This the same issue reported by MapAction when
>>> I provided them shapefiles from the HOT export tool.  Although they
>>> didn't mention what ArcGIS version was used.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Kate,
>>> >
>>> > I have quickly checked this export
>>> http://hot-export.geofabrik.de/jobs/2755
>>> > on ArcGIS 10.1 and couldn't find any major issue. Do you remember what
>>> bugs
>>> > were mentioned? Then I can look further into this particular direction.
>>> >
>>> > The only thing is that ArcGIS doesn't recognize the coordinate system
>>> > (Pseudo-Mercator) and it needs to be defined manually. It's not a
>>> problem
>>> > with the Export tool, however. I think the confusion comes from the
>>> > coordinate system itself, because its definition is slightly different
>>> in
>>> > ArcGIS.
>>> >
>>> > prj file from the HOT Export:
>>> > PROJCS["WGS 84 / Pseudo-Mercator",GEOGCS["Popular Visualisation
>>> > CRS",DATUM["Popular_Visualisation_Datum",SPHEROID["Popular
>>> Visualisation
>>> >
>>> Sphere",6378137,0,AUTHORITY["EPSG","7059"]],TOWGS84[0,0,0,0,0,0,0],AUTHORITY["EPSG","6055"]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,AUTHORITY["EPSG","8901"]],UNIT["degree",0.01745329251994328,AUTHORITY["EPSG","9122"]],AUTHORITY["EPSG","4055"]],UNIT["metre",1,AUTHORITY["EPSG","9001"]],PROJECTION["Mercator_1SP"],PARAMETER["central_meridian",0],PARAMETER["scale_factor",1],PARAMETER["false_easting",0],PARAMETER["false_northing",0],AUTHORITY["EPSG","3785"],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]
>>> >
>>> > prj file from ArcGIS:
>>> >
>>> PROJCS["WGS_1984_Web_Mercator_Auxiliary_Sphere",GEOGCS["GCS_WGS_1984",DATUM["D_WGS_1984",SPHEROID["WGS_1984",6378137.0,298.257223563]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0.0],UNIT["Degree",0.0174532925199433]],PROJECTION["Mercator_Auxiliary_Sphere"],PARAMETER["False_Easting",0.0],PARAMETER["False_Northing",0.0],PARAMETER["Central_Meridian",0.0],PARAMETER["Standard_Parallel_1",0.0],PARAMETER["Auxiliary_Sphere_Type",0.0],UNIT["Meter",1.0]]
>>> >
>>> > One workaround would be for the export tool to output unprojected
>>> layers
>>> > (WGS84). Then anyone can project it into any coordinate system so that
>>> > distance and surface calculations are correct.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>> > Stéphane
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > "Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants
>>> malheureux"
>>> > -- Albert Einstein
>>> >
>>> > "A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason
>>> enough
>>> > in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet soon it
>>> is
>>> > the journey that makes or unmakes you." -- Nicolas Bouvier
>>> >
>>> > Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.he

[HOT] April 2013 Board Meeting Minutes

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

tl;dr Our March Baord Meeting was delayed until the beggining of April. We
welcomed Heather Leson as our latest member and discussed a number of
ongoing issues. Most importantly for the organisation we defined the rules
by which paid HOT employees can serve as Board members. As always, the
input of members and our community was welcomed on a number of points.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KefqCiFYdFYmn3_8d7u3V88V78njp8FGuiOk2Nw_U-c/edit#

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Board/4_April_2013

A quick summary can be found below.

Best, Joseph


Our intended March Board meeting unfortunately missed its end of the month
schedule and was postponed to the beginning of April. Our newest member,
Heather Leson, was welcomed to the Board. Much of the meeting points were
discussed with a view of involving Heather as much as possible within HOT's
ongoing operations so that she has the fullest immediate understanding of
the group and our activities.

Previous business was discussed, with much of the emphasis falling on the
topic of our current technical infrastructure and provided / utilised
services. Our services, most of them web-based, have been identified as a
large potential problem; at current they are managed in an adhoc basis with
much of burden unfairly falling on Kate. We need to review our current
services and outstanding needs with an eye to improving our systems and
their management. In other business, John's departure from the Board has
left us with a requirement for someone to work on our Security & Emergency
policy; Nicolas, Schuyler and Heather will continue on this issue. With
this issue, as with all others, it was mentioned that the work required
does not necessarily have to be conducted by Board members; discussion on
how to further utilise the exceptional talent within our membership /
community needs to take place.

Much discussion during the election period centred around the possibility
of paid staff members serving on the Board. We have finally voted on a
resolution suggested by Kate and forwarded by Schuyler:

*Not more than one or 10% (whichever is greater) directly or indirectly
compensated person(s) serving as voting member(s) of the board. Compensated
members shall not serve as the board's chair or treasurer. The maximum
amount of compensated with HOT before someone is considered staff will be
12 weeks per year.*

The vote was passed and we have agreed to further investigate the positions
taken by other 501(3)c registered organisations. As a Board we accept that
we are a young organisation that faces a number of specific challenges that
may be incompatible with the above statement; as such we are provisionally
allowing ourselves some flexibility on this position, to be judged on a
case by case basis and made explicit at the time they potentially occur.

An ongoing issue with payment for work conducted on behalf of OSM France
was discussed and a solution proposed.

The complete agenda for the meeting could not be discussed in the available
time; further items are being discussed electronically and will be reviewed
as most appropriate at the next Board meeting.
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Re: [HOT] Error with HOT exports

[Joseph Reeves]

This is certainly something we should be considering if we're unable to
bring the current disk space issues under control. My only concern, as I
think about this out loud, is that the current geofabrik service currently
makes use of the minutely diffs replicated from the main db; any
replacement server we introduced would need not only considerable disk
space for exports, but also to maintain diffs for the areas we were working
in. This could get bandwidth heavy.

Joseph


On 12 April 2013 16:49, Mikel Maron  wrote:

> We should be able to find other hosting for this, with sufficient disk.
> Has anyone looked for this?
>
> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
>
>   ------
>  *From:* Joseph Reeves 
> *To:* Claire Halleux 
> *Cc:* HOT Openstreetmap 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:26 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [HOT] Error with HOT exports
>
> Hi Claire,
>
> I imagine the HOT-export server has a full disk again, this has been
> causing problems for a while now; Harry has been clearing space, but it's
> just filling up again.
>
>  As for other sources of DRC data, there is regular dumps provided
> elsewhere by Geofabrik:
>
> http://download.geofabrik.de/africa/congo-democratic-republic.html
>
> There are no shape files available, but you could presumably import the
> data into QGIS and export the files you wanted from there. It's not an
> ideal situation, not least because you were originally dealing with a
> relatively small area and the proposed work-around involves downloading the
> entire country, but it might get you out of a bind.
>
> Best, Joseph
>
>
>
>
> On 9 April 2013 14:12, Claire Halleux  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Today, I got error in osm2pgsql each time an export is launched on the
> HOT export tool.
> See http://hot-export.geofabrik.de/jobs/2686 or 2689th task (smaller one).
>
> Moreover, it's been weeks for me that I cannot access anymore the OSM2GIS
> website neither.
>
> Do you know if any of these tools will be ok soon?
> Would you know any other user-friendly tool for exporting shp from OSM
> database?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Claire
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Re: [HOT] Error with HOT exports

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Claire,

I imagine the HOT-export server has a full disk again, this has been
causing problems for a while now; Harry has been clearing space, but it's
just filling up again.

As for other sources of DRC data, there is regular dumps provided elsewhere
by Geofabrik:

http://download.geofabrik.de/africa/congo-democratic-republic.html

There are no shape files available, but you could presumably import the
data into QGIS and export the files you wanted from there. It's not an
ideal situation, not least because you were originally dealing with a
relatively small area and the proposed work-around involves downloading the
entire country, but it might get you out of a bind.

Best, Joseph




On 9 April 2013 14:12, Claire Halleux  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Today, I got error in osm2pgsql each time an export is launched on the
> HOT export tool.
> See http://hot-export.geofabrik.de/jobs/2686 or 2689th task (smaller one).
>
> Moreover, it's been weeks for me that I cannot access anymore the OSM2GIS
> website neither.
>
> Do you know if any of these tools will be ok soon?
> Would you know any other user-friendly tool for exporting shp from OSM
> database?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Claire
>
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Re: [HOT] Trouble with HOT Exports?

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

Harry has an ongoing ticket open about the disk space issue, recently
reopened:

https://github.com/hotosm/hot-exports/issues/5

Cheers, Joseph





On 28 March 2013 18:48, Andrew Buck  wrote:

> There was some problems with the server hard drive filling up.  Harry
> cleaned out a few files but it didn't free up much space so it is
> probably full again.
>
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[HOT] Announcing Heather Lesson's appointment to the Board

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

On behalf of the HOT Board I'm pleased to announce that Heather Lesson has
been appointed to the position vacated by John Crowley. Heather was the
only nomination, so she can take the position without the need for a vote.

Of course we're all looking forward to working together for yourselves and
the organisation.

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Re: [HOT] Board nomination to replace John Crowley on the 2013 HOT Board

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

Just a reminder that's there's a couple of days left for nominations to the
vacant board position. I'll give you the wiki page again because the link
in the previous email doesn't go to the page that it initially appears to;
nominations are here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Board_Elections_2013_02

Thanks, Joseph





On 15 March 2013 15:56, Pierre Béland  wrote:

> Hello HOTties!
>
> Following John Crowley resignation [1], this is time to proceed to
> nominations and election. Below is a description of how we will process.
>
> Election to replace John Crowley
>
> 1. Nomination
>
> All current elected members of the team may be nominated to replace John.
> The current membership list is posted to
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Members
> 
> Nominations will be open until end of day (EST), March 22, 2013. They can
> be made on this wiki page:
>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Board_Elections_201
> 3_02
>
> 
> 2. Election
>
> We will send instructions to membership by email on how to cast your vote
> on or before April 5. On April 6, we will announce your collective
> selection for the person to replace John for the 2013 Board Director seat.
>
>
> Thanks for reading through all of this. We greatly appreciate your
> continued support and contributions to HOT.
>
>
> On the behalf of the Board of HOT,
> Pierre Beland
> Nicolas Chavent
>
> [1] = http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2013-March/002934.html
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[HOT] John Crowley resigning from the board

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

It’s with considerable sadness that we have to announce the resignation of
John Crowley from his position on the Board. John was initially voted onto
the Board in 2011 and retained his position in the 2012 elections; he now
leaves us to undertake a position with the World Bank. John’s contributions
to HOT have been enormous and have really helped to shape the organisation
and its relationship with both governments and partner organisations.
John’s work with the US State Department has enabled HOT to obtain access
to imagery under the NEXTVIEW license--a process that now defines the way
we work for remote mapping activation.

John is leaving because World Bank conflict of interest rules would prevent
HOT from receiving any Bank Group funding while John is on the Board of
HOT, both during John’s time at the Bank and for 12 months after he leaves
the Bank. Given than HOT already receives Bank funds and is eligible for
additional projects, John does not wish to create problems for our growing
organization. He will continue to be an active member, but feels it is his
responsibility to step down from the Board.

John deserves an enormous thank you for his work with HOT and I’m sure we
all wish him the best for his new endeavours and hope he remains close to
the organisation.

We as the Board have been discussing the options for appointing somebody to
our newly vacant position; details of the upcoming process will be
announced soon via the usual mailing list.

Once again, thanks to John and let’s all remember his contributions as we
move forward,

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[HOT] February 2013 Board meeting minutes

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

We had our second Board meeting of 2013 this week, please find included the
minutes and a brief summary. As the new Board Secretary (read about it in
the minutes), I'll be typing these things up and delivering them to you
after every meeting.

tl;dr The meeting followed on the themes introduced at the previous
meeting. We are working on a number of existing issues and identifying new
areas that require attention. Many of these require the input of our
volunteers, so it would be great if anyone with ideas got involved.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qr8lB-hkmuQrL8TV0oOxSkggqB3GI55zhKEIKlmVkSg/edit

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Meetings/Board/26_February_2013

My quick summary (also found on the wiki page) follows below.

On behalf of the board, thanks for any attention you give this,

Joseph


--

The proceedings of the February meeting followed neatly from January's; the
following is a summary of the discussion.

All members of the board were able to meet for the first time during
February. Following up from the previous meeting, Joseph was nominated and
accepted as Board Secretary. We discussed the Strategy Document following a
read through by all board members; it was deemed unwieldy, out of date and
at times redundant. Schuyler and Harry will look at revising it with an eye
creating a 2014 version. Reviewing this Strategic Plan will allow us to
move forward as an organisation in a coordinated manner, so this is an
important activity.

We spoke about a number of other issues that were identified at the
previous meeting; in many cases we have begun working with interested
members to work towards consensus or policy. These areas include a code of
conduct & disciplinary procedures, a memorandum of understanding between
HOT and GroundTruth, Directors liability, activation protocol, project
definitions and the procedures for reporting to the Board. Many of these
issues have since been brought up with the membership via the HOT mailing
list.

Dealing with new business, we all agreed that Kate is overworked and we
need to work on the social and technical means of reducing her
unsustainable hours. We have a new "admin" email distribution list for
requesting access to resources, for example, and other tools were
suggested. We need to consider the members of staff who have the skills and
experience to lead HOT projects and how we may train others to fulfil these
roles. Our hiring strategies may require a rethink to help this process.

On the subject of hiring, we planned to reaffirm the current hiring
strategy to emphasise that any paid position must be applied for. We are
lucky that we have so many fantastic volunteers who give us their time,
this is something that is considered during the hiring process, but we must
be clear that to be paid for something it must have been a position that
was openly advertised.

We finished the meeting by promising to be responsive as a Board to
communications we receive. We also briefly discussed issues that had been
presented to us, such as the use of drones in Haiti and providing funding
for a member to visit FOSS4G Buenos Aires. Unfortunately the Board was not
able to give our approval to either of these proposals at the moment;
details are provided in the full minutes.

Moving forward we've got more work to undertake before the next meeting,
which will hopefully be happening slightly sooner after the following
meeting than previously. If you're interested in working on any of the
issues raised at the meeting, please contact the Board member responsible,
or get in touch via the IRC sessions and HackPads that have been springing
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Re: [HOT] Syria Lattakia (SY06)

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Floris,

I don't think this is anything to worry about (or at lease to contact Bing
about). The layers up to 13 are dated March 2001 to July 2004, whereas 14
and above dated January 2005 to February 2011:

http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=35.523329112018146&lon=35.79035949707033&zoom=13

It's worth pointing out that this difference exists (thanks Norman), but
it's only caused by Bing updating some, not all, or their imagery.

Cheers, Joseph




On 12 February 2013 09:29, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:

> Do we have a contact with Bing Maps (besides stevec)?
> This sounds like a mistake or maybe a rendering problem at Bing.
>
> Greets,
> Floris Looijesteijn
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Norman Rathmann wrote:
>
>> HI
>>
>> By this job there a 2 different BING images
>>
>> by zooming more in you get an older image.
>>
>> The mapper you did a lot there before notice this and mapped also the
>> newer things
>>
>> i was wondering about some streets, because with the old image the street
>> looks wrong, after zooming out it was correct.
>>
>> Norman
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[HOT] HOT activation update: Call for assistance with georeferencing place names

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

I'll write a blog post about this early next week, but I wanted to give you
all a heads up in advance.

It's great to see that people have been putting time in to the jobs on the
Tasking Manager. It's amazing how quickly people are completing the areas
that have been put up. Thanks again to everyone that's been taking part.
And, of course, I've added three more tasks to the manager :^)

The second part of our activation is now also in progress (or will be soon,
at least), that is the georeferencing of place names provided by UN OCHA.
These names were originally sourced from census data, but cannot be found
on a map; which is what we've been asked to help with. I've taken the
original file and split it into more manageable chunks:

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B2vyPA1RC5ZULW9ZcDNDWnhJcXc/edit?usp=sharing

Now we need to work out how best to georeference these. An initial thought
I had is that many of these places may already exist in OSM; I was planning
to grep through a database extract and see how much matches already, but
don't have a suitable extract to work with. An extract is certainly on the
to-do list.

This is also an area that we could use help with from Arabic speakers or
the Syrian diaspora. We're having various conversations with people about
this, but if anyone has any ideas on how to progress with this side of the
project, please let us know.

Thanks as ever and all best, Joseph
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[HOT] Syria Activation update

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

I'm very happy to let you know that the first three Syria tasks have been
completed and I've added the next three (slightly smaller) jobs to the
tasking manager. A massive thanks to everyone's that's been tracing and
validating these tasks - you're all heroes.

The products of our tracing are already being put to good use, please see
the MapAction reference atlases that have been produced using OSM data.
These are being actively used for the Syrian humanitarian response:

http://www.mapaction.org/syria

I've typed all this up into a brief blog post:

http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-02-06_syria_activation_update_our_progress_so_far

Thanks again to everyone that's got involved, you're making a genuine and
much appreciated difference.

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Re: [HOT] Mali and Syria

[Joseph Reeves]

>One problem, especially with complex emergencies, is that Google Hangouts
are public unless you are using >Google Apps. That means that it would be
impossible to protect activists from surveillance.

Hi Tim,

At the moment I don't think this is going to be too much of an issue for
the Syria activation. OSM, by its very nature, relies upon the
contributions of identifiable users. At the moment we have a great deal of
tracing to do and we want to be getting more people involved with
this. There is nothing sensitive about this work: Both sides in the ongoing
conflict have enough geographic resources to keep fighting each other,
whereas we're providing mapping for external humanitarian relief. Of
course, if anyone feels that their contributions to OSM might put their
safety at risk, they should simply refrain from engaging in this activation.

Best, Joseph


On 3 February 2013 02:24, Tim McNamara  wrote:

> On 2 February 2013 06:49, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> If we could have some virtual training to help people get started we
>> would very likely increase the number of people helping.
>>
>
> Picking up on the virtual training angle, I think this could be relatively
> easy to facilitate through Google Hangouts. They allow scren sharing and
> connectivity seems to be very reliable.
>
> One problem, especially with complex emergencies, is that Google Hangouts
> are public unless you are using Google Apps. That means that it would be
> impossible to protect activists from surveillance.
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Re: [HOT] Mali and Syria

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

I'll publish a blog update on Monday that might encourage more people to
participate; in short, mapping products including osm data are being
provided to aid agencies working on the ground in and around Syria. They
look great and people are really thankful that they can get osm data. A
definite success story and we're still in very early days!

Thinking of the three recent activations, could someone come up with an
overview post for the main osm blog? That should help our profile within
the osm community and will be the sort of thing that could be disseminated
to a wider audience. If nothing else we might be able to gain some
publicity off the back of the recent MapMaker coverage.

Speaking of blogs, I think all us coordinators should be making a real
effort to publish regular updates. It's certainly something I'm very
conscious of.

In other news, we've just started organising a Syria mapping party within
our local osm group. Hopefully we'll get people involved that are new to
both HOT and osm. If anyone reading this is in Oxford, come along! If
you're not in Oxford organise your own event! There's free HOT stickers and
badges for any local groups (once I've had them made...)

Thanks to everyone who is looking at the Task Manager and getting jobs
finished, it has a massive positive impact.

Happy Friday everyone! Joseph
On 1 Feb 2013 19:45, "Norman Rathmann"  wrote:

> Hi Pierre and Joseph
>
> There are 5 Mali and 3 active Syria and 7 waiting Syria jobs and it seems
> they are really important
>
>
> When i am looking daily how many people are mapping for HOT, i guess it
> will take a long time
>
> you never thought of making little promotion to get more active mappers?
>
>
> i am mapping daily, but sometime it feels hopeless to finished all of this
> jobs in a good time
> and i think, that the people need this data soon (maybe i am wrong and
> time is enough there)
>
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Re: [HOT] so many jobs and so less mappers

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Floris,

Please feel free to finish off any almost complete jobs and mark them as
done! That would be great for any tasks in the list.

Cheers, Joseph


On 31 January 2013 08:20, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:

> The OSM Tasking Manager list at:
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured
>
> BTW I spent some time yesterdag looking through some of the jobs but most
> of the work just seems done already.
> It's just not marked as done.
>
> Greets,
> Floris
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Pierre GIRAUD 
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the confusion but which page and problem are you referring to?
>>
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>>
>> Le 30 janv. 2013 à 21:38, Floris Looijesteijn  a écrit :
>>
>> Although I'm following HOT for a while now I have never seen that page.
>>
>> I'll put in some time to fix the problem :)
>>
>> Greets,
>> Floris
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Harry Wood  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, there was 18 'featured jobs'.  I agree it's too many.
>>>
>>> So I've gone through and un-featured all of those which have hit 100%,
>>> and also all of those which were 'archived' state (meaning only admins
>>> could see them anyway I suppose)
>>>
>>> That thins it down a lot:
>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/#featured
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course all of those jobs are still available to view and work on (The
>>> 100% ones can still be validated) ...and if I've done a bad thing then
>>> another administrator can 'feature' them again.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Norman Rathmann 
>>> To: HOT@openstreetmap.org
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2013, 17:03
>>> Subject: [HOT]   so many jobs and so less mappers
>>>
>>> why are not the really important job under  featured Jobs?
>>>
>>> maybe than more mappers are active
>>>
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Re: [HOT] so many jobs and so less mappers

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Norman,

I was thinking about featured jobs today myself, mainly because we've been
getting great feedback from our partners on the Syria activation and I
wanted to promote the jobs I'd created :)

I think I'll mark them as featured, unless anyone objects, but I think
there's more we could be asking of the Tasking Manager that could help us;
sorting by completeness, number of active users, time open, etc. If nothing
else, we should be able to sort the jobs into a more understandable list of
what needs to be done. I'll put in a feature request. I've also got a
feeling that there could be plenty of jobs created for training that could
now be removed.

Cheers, Joseph


On 29 January 2013 17:03, Norman Rathmann  wrote:

> why are not the really important job under  featured Jobs?
>
> maybe than more mappers are active
>
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[HOT] First Syria tasks on the Tasking Manager

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

Thanks to everyone who responded to yesterday's news that we've begun our
Syria Activation - it was all very positive, which was great.

In order to keep up with the momentum that's around at the moment I've
created the first three jobs on the Tasking Manager:

Damascus: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/153
Aleppo: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/154
Homs: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/155

All three areas are covered by Bing and have been traced in the past. Homs,
for example, has been subject to considerable work and will likely just
need some validating before we can call it finished.

It would be great if people could have a look at these tasks. Once they're
complete, or nearing completion, we can start to look at the other areas
highlighted by UN OCHA and SNAP.

Finally, I'd just like to respond quickly to the in country security
concerns raised yesterday both on and off the list. HOT currently has no
presence within Syria and we are not looking to build one at this time. The
current activation tasks, as requested by our partners, can be completed
out of country.

Whilst we have specifically tried to appeal to Arabic speakers, we have
done so because we will soon be in possession of a dataset that requires
georeferencing. Again, this can be completed out of country, but would
benefit from input from Arabic speakers.

Thanks again for the support so far,

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Re: [HOT] HOT activation Syria

[Joseph Reeves]

hi Trevor,

Thanks for your email. Local contacts would be fantastic, but I'm aware
that there are endless potential difficulties with this. Hopefully we can
work together on this without imposing any burden upon anyone on the
ground. As an aside, UN OCHA does have contacts within Syria, but were
unable to pass on their contact details because of the security risk.

Best, Joseph




On 28 January 2013 16:02, Trevor Ellermann  wrote:

> Hey Guys,
>
> This is awesome. I was just actually on the Turkey/Syria border last
> week and was shaking my head at the state of OSM over there.
>
> I am working on internet related projects in the north and now know a
> number of tech savvy Syrians. As you can imagine, they are pretty
> over-committed right now but if HOT needs small favors or
> introductions I may be able to help. They are fairly private for
> obvious reasons but I can pass on requests, information and
> introductions. I'm also pretty up to date on the situation over there
> right now so I might be able to answer questions as well.
>
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> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Joseph Reeves 
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'm pleased to report that HOT have been contacted by partners working
> > within the ongoing Syrian crises and have been asked to provide relevant
> > mapping resources. As such we have begun a formal HOT Syria activation.
> I've
> > put further details into a blog post:
> >
> > http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-01-28_syria_activation
> >
> > At the moment we're looking for new potential datasets and trying to
> > identify people comfortable in Arabic that may be interested in
> > contributing. Much of the work will involve remote mapping from aerial
> > imagery, which does not require any particular language skills, but
> another
> > element (geo-referencing place names) will benefit from the involvement
> of
> > Arabic speakers. In the past we've spoken about mentoring programs; this
> > activation will hopefully provide a good opportunity to train and mentor
> new
> > OSM users.
> >
> > Please check the blog for further details. More updates will be provided
> > soon as the project progresses, but of course please email back here with
> > any questions, proposals, etc.
> >
> > All best, Joseph
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Re: [HOT] HOT activation Syria

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Heather,

That would be fantastic - many thanks!

Joseph


On 28 January 2013 15:48, Heather Leson  wrote:

> HI Joseph, there are a few Crowdmap/Ushahidi deployers in Syria. May I do
> introductions?
>
> Heather
> On Jan 28, 2013 3:42 PM, "Joseph Reeves"  wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm pleased to report that HOT have been contacted by partners working
>> within the ongoing Syrian crises and have been asked to provide relevant
>> mapping resources. As such we have begun a formal HOT Syria activation.
>> I've put further details into a blog post:
>>
>> http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-01-28_syria_activation
>>
>> At the moment we're looking for new potential datasets and trying to
>> identify people comfortable in Arabic that may be interested in
>> contributing. Much of the work will involve remote mapping from aerial
>> imagery, which does not require any particular language skills, but another
>> element (geo-referencing place names) will benefit from the involvement of
>> Arabic speakers. In the past we've spoken about mentoring programs; this
>> activation will hopefully provide a good opportunity to train and mentor
>> new OSM users.
>>
>> Please check the blog for further details. More updates will be provided
>> soon as the project progresses, but of course please email back here with
>> any questions, proposals, etc.
>>
>> All best, Joseph
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[HOT] HOT activation Syria

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

I'm pleased to report that HOT have been contacted by partners working
within the ongoing Syrian crises and have been asked to provide relevant
mapping resources. As such we have begun a formal HOT Syria activation.
I've put further details into a blog post:

http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-01-28_syria_activation

At the moment we're looking for new potential datasets and trying to
identify people comfortable in Arabic that may be interested in
contributing. Much of the work will involve remote mapping from aerial
imagery, which does not require any particular language skills, but another
element (geo-referencing place names) will benefit from the involvement of
Arabic speakers. In the past we've spoken about mentoring programs; this
activation will hopefully provide a good opportunity to train and mentor
new OSM users.

Please check the blog for further details. More updates will be provided
soon as the project progresses, but of course please email back here with
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Re: [HOT] HOT Board of Directors election 2012/13

[Joseph Reeves]

Jaakko,

I have stayed clear of recent Board discussions as I have been nominated
for a position myself. Reading your email, and Katrina's from earlier, I
was encouraged to write something about my perception of the Board and how
I would like to see things progress.

This has been rushed, which I apologise for in advance. With the deadline
for voting so close, however, I thought it best to get something out,
however incomplete it may be:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/107090347156325880485/posts/XUUEgD7XZ4F

Happy to follow up on any points if people would like to.

Best, Joseph





On 15 January 2013 11:38, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote:

> Also:
> Any board candidate that hasn't written somewhere (this email list or
> linked to the election wiki page) why they are running and why I should
> vote for you -- there's about a day for you to do that. "Why are they
> awsome?"
> is not the same as "Why am I doing this and why you should vote for me?"
>
> Cheers,
> -Jaakko
> a voting member
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Voting Members of HOT, please don't forget to vote. You have roughly 2
>> more days.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Schuyler Erle 
>> wrote:
>> > Dear HOTties,
>> >
>> > It's time for this year's Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Board of
>> Directors election!
>> >
>> > Please go RIGHT NOW and vote here:
>> >
>> >  http://goo.gl/Mt1tA
>> >
>> > On the election ballot, you may select up to seven (7) individuals to
>> serve on the Board of Directors of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team in
>> 2013. You have until end of day PST, Wednesday 16 January 2013, to submit
>> your vote.
>> >
>> > You may find the list of nominations at:
>> >
>> >
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Board_Elections_2012
>> >
>> > You may vote for fewer than seven nominees. If you vote for more than
>> seven, your ballot will be considered invalid. If you vote more than once,
>> only the last ballot submitted will be considered valid.
>> >
>> > Only ballots submitted by voting members of the Team will be accepted.
>> If you're not a voting member, we love you all the same, but please don't
>> waste your time and ours by submitting a ballot that legally can't be
>> counted. You may review the list of voting members at:
>> >
>> >  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Members
>> >
>> > According to our bylaws, all Board members must be elected by a simple
>> majority of voting members. We will announce the election results next
>> Friday, 17 January 2013.
>> >
>> > Please don't wait until the last minute to submit your vote! Once
>> again, your HOT Board of Directors election ballot is at:
>> http://goo.gl/Mt1tA
>> >
>> > On behalf of your Board, keep it HOT,
>> >
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[HOT] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Aleppo Data for OSM

[Joseph Reeves]

This may be of interest to any Hotties not on the CrisisMappers list.

Best, Joseph




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Date: 10 January 2013 20:03
Subject: [CrisisMappers] Aleppo Data for OSM
To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com


Hi All

We are in the process of looking at collecting data on the humanitarian
situation in Aleppo. Part of this work would involve the use of OSM in
country. The challenge is that the available basemap on OSM for Aleppo is
quite poor. Could any one provide a recommendation for how we might obtain
the following:

1. High quality tiled imagery (preferably up-to-date given building
destruction) with licenses that permit tracing into OSM
2. Level 5 Administrative boundaries within Aleppo city limits
3. POIs (the more the better provided they are reasonably up to date)
4. Street names

Additionally, are there any Crisis Mappers within the community who might
have an intimate understanding of Aleppo city sufficient to support
additional remote basemap improvements onto OSM?

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Re: [HOT] 500 internal server error in Tasking Manager

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Pierre,

It might be interesting to check the error logs - any 500 error is
potentially a cause for concern.

Cheers, Joseph


On 14 December 2012 15:03, Pierre GIRAUD  wrote:

> I have access to the logs and is probably the one who can read them.
> But I'm a bit late to answer. Is it still worth?
>
> Pierre
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM, maning sambale <
> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Joseph,
>>
>> Its working now using a different ISP.
>>
>> Maning Sambale (mobile)
>> On Dec 14, 2012 4:29 PM, "Joseph Reeves"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maning,
>>>
>>> Can you recreate the job? Hopefully someone with ssh access can read the
>>> logs and let us know if there's a problem here.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Joseph
>>> On Dec 14, 2012 8:04 AM, "maning sambale" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's weird.  I tried accessing the site on two different machines
>>>> and on different browsers.  I can access others jobs but not the one I
>>>> just created for Typhoon Pablo/Bopha.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Emir Hartato 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > looks fine on me.
>>>> > maybe try restarting your connection?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:38 PM, maning sambale <
>>>> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear everyone,
>>>> >> I am getting 500 errors in the task I created:
>>>> >> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/115
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Maybe I did something wrong .  Please advise.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Server Error
>>>> >> An error occurred. See the error logs for more information. (Turn
>>>> >> debug on to display exception reports here)
>>>> >>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Version of Walking Papers

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Seb,

It was on one of the HOT VMs - I'll forward on the details off list. It's
running Ubuntu 12.04, but I think that it might *just work* on 10.04.

Cheers, Joseph


On 12 December 2012 15:55, Sébastien Pierrel wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> what server are you running this on? I might find some time to look into
> this during the upcoming holidays...
>
> Cheers,
> Seb.
>
>
> On 30 November 2012 12:17, Joseph Reeves  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Let me know if anyone wants to take a look at the version I got running.
>> Current issues are:
>>
>>
>>1. It is only possible to create a print at Legal size - selecting A3
>>or A4 will crash the decoder running
>>at /var/www/paperwalking/decoder/poll.py
>>2. A print at Legal size will result in a pdf of 0kb
>>
>> Unfortunately I've not been very good at dedicating much time at this.
>>
>> On the subject of Field Papers, is it working for others? I've been
>> trying to create atlases and just get the message
>>
>> "Preparing your atlas... (10% complete)"
>>
>> I'll come back to my latest test later (
>> http://fieldpapers.org/atlas.php?id=mbwr4hrs ), but I'm not holding out
>> a lot of hope for it.
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>> On 30 November 2012 08:57, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>
>>> People are currently using Field Papers as well, but the features of
>>> Walking Papers and Field Papers don't match completely one to one
>>> unfortunately.
>>>
>>> -Kate
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Pierre GIRAUD 
>>> wrote:
>>> > What about field papers?
>>> > http://fieldpapers.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kate Chapman 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >>
>>> >> So as many people know Walking Papers has been broken for a while. It
>>> >> would be great if HOT had our own version of this.
>>> >>
>>> >> Would anyone have time to set it up? Joseph Reeves got a start on it,
>>> >> but it would be good to finish things up.
>>> >>
>>> >> We have some server space I can set you up with access.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> -Kate
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[HOT] Upcoming nominations & HOT's online presence?

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

I guess that with nominations closing shortly this might be too late to
suggest, but is it worth highlighting the membership nominations on the HOT
website, Twitter, Facebook?

I wonder if we may have people engaging with HOT through those means that
haven't signed up for the mailing list yet. I'm thinking particularly of
those people that might procrastinate about getting involved, or those that
don't deal well with mailing lists, but are fine with the new social media.

The website at least seems like a potentially good place to publicise the
nominations through the Get Involved page. Facebook and Twitter could then
be used, if for nothing else, to drive visitors to that page.

I suppose it gets to a bigger query: to what extent is the HOT website,
Twitter & Facebook intended to be used by members and potential members?

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Re: [HOT] HOT Version of Walking Papers

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Katrina,

I think I was just being a little impatient - mine did complete, but it
took some time: http://fieldpapers.org/atlas.php?id=mbwr4hrs

Perhaps the server is suffering high load at the moment.

Cheers, Joseph





On 30 November 2012 13:06, Katrina Engelsted  wrote:

> I also have been getting the 10% finished for fieldpapers... would be
> great to get that up and running again.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Katrina E.
>
> Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team
> Jakarta, Indonesia
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> On Nov 30, 2012 6:19 PM, "Joseph Reeves"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Let me know if anyone wants to take a look at the version I got running.
>> Current issues are:
>>
>>
>>1. It is only possible to create a print at Legal size - selecting A3
>>or A4 will crash the decoder running
>>at /var/www/paperwalking/decoder/poll.py
>>2. A print at Legal size will result in a pdf of 0kb
>>
>> Unfortunately I've not been very good at dedicating much time at this.
>>
>> On the subject of Field Papers, is it working for others? I've been
>> trying to create atlases and just get the message
>>
>> "Preparing your atlas... (10% complete)"
>>
>> I'll come back to my latest test later (
>> http://fieldpapers.org/atlas.php?id=mbwr4hrs ), but I'm not holding out
>> a lot of hope for it.
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>> On 30 November 2012 08:57, Kate Chapman  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>
>>> People are currently using Field Papers as well, but the features of
>>> Walking Papers and Field Papers don't match completely one to one
>>> unfortunately.
>>>
>>> -Kate
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Pierre GIRAUD 
>>> wrote:
>>> > What about field papers?
>>> > http://fieldpapers.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kate Chapman 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi All,
>>> >>
>>> >> So as many people know Walking Papers has been broken for a while. It
>>> >> would be great if HOT had our own version of this.
>>> >>
>>> >> Would anyone have time to set it up? Joseph Reeves got a start on it,
>>> >> but it would be good to finish things up.
>>> >>
>>> >> We have some server space I can set you up with access.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> -Kate
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Re: [HOT] HOT Version of Walking Papers

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

Let me know if anyone wants to take a look at the version I got running.
Current issues are:


   1. It is only possible to create a print at Legal size - selecting A3 or
   A4 will crash the decoder running at /var/www/paperwalking/decoder/poll.py
   2. A print at Legal size will result in a pdf of 0kb

Unfortunately I've not been very good at dedicating much time at this.

On the subject of Field Papers, is it working for others? I've been trying
to create atlases and just get the message

"Preparing your atlas... (10% complete)"

I'll come back to my latest test later (
http://fieldpapers.org/atlas.php?id=mbwr4hrs ), but I'm not holding out a
lot of hope for it.

Cheers, Joseph


On 30 November 2012 08:57, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> People are currently using Field Papers as well, but the features of
> Walking Papers and Field Papers don't match completely one to one
> unfortunately.
>
> -Kate
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Pierre GIRAUD 
> wrote:
> > What about field papers?
> > http://fieldpapers.org
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> So as many people know Walking Papers has been broken for a while. It
> >> would be great if HOT had our own version of this.
> >>
> >> Would anyone have time to set it up? Joseph Reeves got a start on it,
> >> but it would be good to finish things up.
> >>
> >> We have some server space I can set you up with access.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -Kate
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Re: [HOT] Pakistan Anti-Mapping Legislation: Implications for HOT/OSM

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Hi Alex, all,

I've gone through your proposed blog post a few times now, it's raised a
few questions / thoughts. Some are about the issue at hand whilst others
relate more to HOT's decision making process. Many of these overlap and I'm
not expecting a detailed reply to the whole thing, but just off the top of
my head:

This post would fit into the "thought leadership" (that's a phrase I picked
up during previous blog conversations) category of blogging that we
arguably could do more of on the HOT blog and which is potentially a very
powerful output, but..

What is HOT's role in this? Obviously we can act as experts in the field,
but should we be doing so? The complete quote from
globalintegrity.orgreads "the
proposed legislation is anachronistic and ill-advised, and those with
influence need to communicate those concerns. That starts with the US
government and international relief organizations operating in Pakistan,
which for all of the complicated equities at stake need to appreciate the
severity of the proposed move and the signals it sends." We, of course, are
not operating in Pakistan, although there was a remote effort during the
2007 floods [0].

Who is the intended audience of the blog post?

Is this post intended as an FYI, or is it an official HOT statement? If
so..

Can we be a bit more constructive with the blog? That probably sounds more
harsh than I mean it to be; I'm wondering, however, if there's a way of
fleshing out the blog post with either our proposals or a set of
hypothetical workarounds. The Indonesia example, for example, is
potentially useful to introduce.

Who is responsible for these HOT communications?

Best, Joseph


[0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2010_07_Pakistan_Floods


On 28 November 2012 22:00, Alex Barth  wrote:

>
> Ok, I have created a quick blog post here that could go up on HOT. Kate,
> Harry, Faisal and others: could this work? Obviously I don't have
> publishing permissions on hot.osm.org so someone else would have to take
> this and run the last mile with it. Please feel free to change as you see
> fit. My intention was to highlight that this could have a real impact on
> citizen mapping, HOT and OpenStreetMap and that this impact is starting to
> show now.
>
> https://gist.github.com/f657476887f3c84a32b1
>
> PS: is anybody from HOT talking to OCHA or GFDRR?
>
> On Nov 28, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Faisal Chohan  wrote:
>
> > I agree with the Alex suggestions. I Iike the idea to write about
> enefits of Openstreetmap data in disaster, transparency, business use,
> social issues ( that we are trying to do with sanitation in Rawalpindi),
> fighting corruption etc and then publish this in International and local
> media. We can also take good examples from other countries. I am happy to
> be part of this.
> >
> > We tried to enhance and use Openstreetmap for the first time in
> Pakistan, resisting the use of Google maps that are in much better shape in
> Pakistan than Openstreetmap, but do not provide any Open Data. Google may
> comply with Government of Pakistan laws and then can continue improving its
> maps. But for Opnstreetmap, every individual and group  registering with
>  GOP will not be possible. Hence, improving and use of the the
> openstreetmap will be very limited after this law and will discourage
> innovation in this domain.
> >
> > On the case of starting the Rawalpindi mapping, I had one personal bad
> experience turned into tragedy in the past and that is one of the personal
> reasons to be careful. But once i have my emotions in control, I am of the
> point of view to accelerate the project instead of stopping it.
>
> Alex Barth
> http://twitter.com/lxbarth
> tel (+1) 202 250 3633
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Re: [HOT] Pre activation in Eastern DRC - Goma

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

Looking quickly at the Bing Image Analyser, Goma and some surrounding areas
are covered in high detail:

http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=-1.689891955079034&lon=29.226718902587876&zoom=11

I've not been able to find any coverage areas as shapefiles or equivalent,
however.

Does anyone have a good way of scripting usage of the Image Analyser? I've
previously scripted some checking of an area south of Goma, but it can't
have been the most efficient way of doing it: Scripting Firefox to open new
tabs until my PC ran out of memory wasn't too elegant.

Cheers, Joseph


On 26 November 2012 02:40, Kate Chapman  wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> We have no officially activated yet. At the moment there isn't much to
> do. (We are looking for someone to lead the activation though).
>
> One thing to do would be look for available imagery in the area that
> can be used for digitizing. Just having an outline of where Bing is
> would be a good start.
>
> -Kate
>
> On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Joseph Pollack
>  wrote:
> > Dear List,
> >
> > is there anything I can do on your Goma activation?
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > -Joseph.
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Re: [HOT] ideas for beginners

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Mike,

I don't know what you're planning on getting these beginners to do,
but if it's tracing Nico recently emailed about the ongoing response
to flooding in Senegal:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2012-August/002171.html

This could provide a good introduction to HOT as there's a lot of
material on the website & wiki about the Senegal project:

http://hot.openstreetmap.org/projects/senegal_0
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Senegal

Best, Joseph




On 30 August 2012 14:07, Mike  Dupont  wrote:
> I will be giving an openstreetmap presentation on the 5th of sept at
> the innovations labs kosvo (http://kosovoinnovations.org/ )
> and hope to use the HOT as an example, if there is anything total
> noobs can be given to do, let me know.
> I was thinking to work on iran if there is anything left.
>
>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Chat, later today / tonight / this morning?

[Joseph Reeves]

For those that missed yesterday's HOT chat, Harry started a new Doodle
to decide the time of the next meeting:

http://doodle.com/9bqvz7z8uar95ptk

If you'd like to get involved, please fill in the poll with what hours
suit you best and a decision will be made before the next chat.

Thanks, Joseph





On 29 August 2012 15:24, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> Yeah the timing was from a Doodle made over a year ago. A lot of the
> people that marked on the Doodle never join the HOT chats.
>
> So I think it would be fair to repoll.
>
> Signed,
>
> Someone who gets up at 5am or 6am depending to attend.
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Joseph Reeves  wrote:
>> I don't think there's anyone that finds the timing of the chats too
>> convenient - it's either really early or really late for just about
>> everyone.
>>
>> We could always think about changing the times if there's something
>> that would be better, especially as there are so many French members
>> and the chats start at 1AM Paris time...
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 August 2012 15:13, Sébastien Pierrel  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> it's too late for me :(
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> /Seb.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 August 2012 16:04, Harry Wood  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Thanks Joseph.
>>>>
>>>> I was meaning to reply saying I'm up for it, and hopefully a few others
>>>> will join in?
>>>>
>>>> See you on #hot IRC in 9 hours time.  We have "Tutorships" as a chat
>>>> topic. Anything else? :
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/HOT_Chats
>>>>
>>>> Harry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Joseph Reeves 
>>>> To: hot 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 14:50
>>>> Subject: [HOT] HOT Chat, later today / tonight / this morning?
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Were people interested in a HOT chat this evening (or whatever time it
>>>> is where you are) ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=HOT+Chat&iso=20120829T23
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/HOT_Chats
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Joseph
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [HOT] HOT Chat, later today / tonight / this morning?

[Joseph Reeves]

I don't think there's anyone that finds the timing of the chats too
convenient - it's either really early or really late for just about
everyone.

We could always think about changing the times if there's something
that would be better, especially as there are so many French members
and the chats start at 1AM Paris time...

Cheers, Joseph





On 29 August 2012 15:13, Sébastien Pierrel  wrote:
>
> it's too late for me :(
>
> Cheers,
> /Seb.
>
>
> On 29 August 2012 16:04, Harry Wood  wrote:
>>
>> Yes. Thanks Joseph.
>>
>> I was meaning to reply saying I'm up for it, and hopefully a few others
>> will join in?
>>
>> See you on #hot IRC in 9 hours time.  We have "Tutorships" as a chat
>> topic. Anything else? :
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/HOT_Chats
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Joseph Reeves 
>> To: hot 
>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 14:50
>> Subject: [HOT] HOT Chat, later today / tonight / this morning?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Were people interested in a HOT chat this evening (or whatever time it
>> is where you are) ?
>>
>>
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=HOT+Chat&iso=20120829T23
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/HOT_Chats
>>
>> Cheers, Joseph
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[HOT] HOT Chat, later today / tonight / this morning?

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi all,

Were people interested in a HOT chat this evening (or whatever time it
is where you are) ?

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=HOT+Chat&iso=20120829T23

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/HOT_Chats

Cheers, Joseph

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Re: [HOT] HOT tutorship program for supporting OSM communities in the developing countries

[Joseph Reeves]

Hi Séverin,

This sounds like a great idea - perhaps it'd make a good topic for a
HOT IRC chat? There's not been one for a while, shall we try again
next Wednesday?

Cheers, Joseph





On 22 August 2012 22:16, Séverin MENARD  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Nicolas and I would like to find ways to facilitate connections between
> global mappers and new communities in the developing countries. We thought
> about starting a HOT tutorship program in which active members from the
> community would make contact with the emergent communities we helped or will
> help to start:
>
>
> the communities in Haiti and Kenya and the rising one in Senegal
>
> the future ones in the African countries (Cad, Burundi and Central Republic
> of Africa, as well as Kenya) concerned by the EUROSHA program that will
> start in October, to support both the program volunteers and the OSM
> community they will aim for creating
>
>
> Experienced mappers could provide a great support regarding OSM techniques,
> remote mapping, imagery setting, quality assurance, communication (OSM
> wikipages, social media, etc.). Of course on a voluntary basis, according to
> their chosen field and kinship towards such or such country.
>
>
> Basically, this would be a different approach of what is done so far through
> OSM lists where the help/advices are often limited to a specific request.
> Here both sides would be presented, the local communities through their
> story, members, skills, and project(s) and the tutors through their
> background and their OSM experience.
>
>
> So far it is a general idea for which we would like that the HOT community
> provide creative inputs to sketch it in more details. I will create an OSM
> Wikipage as a starting point so that everyone can contribute.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Severin MENARD
> Current HOT Acting Project Director
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[HOT] Separate Data Store installation script

[Joseph Reeves]

Dear all,

I've written a rough and ready bash script that will install the HOT
Separate Data Store [0] on a Ubuntu 12.04 machine. The idea is that the
software can be easily trialled or deployed with minimal user interaction;
I'm not expecting anyone to be using this script to create production
services, but I'm hoping that it'll get more people trying the software.

Briefly described, the script installs dependencies via apt-get and gem
install. it creates a database and initial admin user, downloads the latest
SDS version from github and fires it up. There's a little bit of user
prompting along the way.

I've attached the script to this email and would be interested to hear if
anyone had any feedback on it, especially if you try it out! I'm pretty
sure that there are multiple ways it could be improved, but it seems to
work as-is at least.

Cheers, Joseph


[0: https://github.com/hotosm/sds-server]


sds-install
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