Re: Query: CA-MIM ENQ Processing Mode

2005-09-22 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I'm curious how other shops are 'configured'.  We currently use the CA-MII
> ( Multi-Image Integrity ) and
> CA-MIA ( Multi-Image Allocation ) products.  We are having a
> discussion/issue regarding the ENQ
> Processing Mode of CA-MII, which can be either 'SELECT' or 'ALLSYSTEMS.
> Currently, we use
> the 'SELECT' ENQ Processing mode of CA-MII.
> 
> If you have the CA-MII product, which mode do you use, 'SELECT' or
> 'ALLSYSTEMS?
> 
> 

IIRC, if you run a parallel sysplex, you *must* run with PROCESS=ALLSYSTEMS.
We changed this years ago and it must be documented in the MIM manuals.

Kees.


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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Jack Schudel
(Sorry to come in late, but I have been out of the office.)

I have a copy of the:
 Program Contribution Form
 Type III (IBM Employee)

for:

Title of Program:
 Houston Automatic Spooling Priority SYSTEM - II

Program Order Number:
 360D-05.1.014

Author:
 Tom H. Simpson
 Robert P. Crabtree
 Robert O. Ray

Submitter:
 Tom H. Simpson, IBM Corp, 1120 Conn Ave NW, Washington DC 20036

Date:
 10 Sept., 1968

- - -

According to some of my HASP history notes,
HASP-I V.1 came out of Houston in 7/67 for OS/MFT-I
HASP-I V.2 came out in 9/67 and added RJE

HASP-II V.1 came out of Washington, DC in 9/68 for MFT or MVT Release 15/16

- - -

I think we can agree that it has been "Priority" for a very long time.

/jack


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>
> In a message dated 9/20/2005 8:40:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >So when (any why) did IBM change the meaning?  I've always  thought it
> >was Program and almost all the old IBM system journals I've  been
> >looking at recently (thanks again Sam!) refer to it as Program,  but
> >I found one on OS/VS2 that called it  Priority.
>
>
>
>
> Where is Tom Simpson now that we need him to resolve this issue?  Only  he
> would know for sure.  Or maybe a printed copy of the 1,000+ pages HASP
3.1 doc.
>  I have still not figured out exactly where to go in all cases  where we
must
> determine the original "name" of something.
>
> Bill Fairchild
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Query: CA-MIM ENQ Processing Mode

2005-09-22 Thread Glenn Miller
I'm curious how other shops are 'configured'.  We currently use the CA-MII
( Multi-Image Integrity ) and
CA-MIA ( Multi-Image Allocation ) products.  We are having a
discussion/issue regarding the ENQ
Processing Mode of CA-MII, which can be either 'SELECT' or 'ALLSYSTEMS.
Currently, we use
the 'SELECT' ENQ Processing mode of CA-MII.

If you have the CA-MII product, which mode do you use, 'SELECT' or
'ALLSYSTEMS?


Thank you for your time.

Glenn Miller

PS: To display your CA-MII ENQ Processing mode, use the following command:
F MIMx,D GDIF INIT

You should see the following on the console:
MIM1019 GDIF INIT DISPLAY
  EXEMPT=MIIXEMPT   MISMATCHQNAME=ACCEPT  NMCOUNT=255
  PROCESS=SELECTRESERVES=CONVERT  TEMPORARYDSN=YES

The PROCESS= should be either SELECT or ALLSYSTEMS

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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Mike Liberatore
RAS RAS RAS

>From: Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thu Sep 22 19:00:00 CDT 2005
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

>>Time Sharing Option
>
>Terribly Slow Option
>
>MVS
>Man Versus System
>Moves Very Slowly
>
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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Time Sharing Option

Terribly Slow Option

MVS
Man Versus System
Moves Very Slowly

-teD

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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Skip Robinson wrote:
> My favorite is still ISPF. It's predecessor, SPF, expressly stood for
> Structured Programming Facility. Not content merely to add Interactive, the
> Hot Button Brigade (tech savvy cousins of the Political Correctness Police)
> also re-engineered 'SP' to System Productivity.

there is GML (precursor to sgml, html, xml, etc)   which was
invented at the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

in 1969 by three people, "G", "M", and "L". it then became
a task to come up with "genarlized markup language" to
correspond with the initials of the three last names
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#sgml

then there is CAS ... the initials for the person at the science center
that was doing a lot of fine-grain SMP locking work on cp/67 and
invented a new multiprocessing syncronization instruction.

It was then necessary to come up with "compare-and-swap" to go along
with his initials.  trying to get CAS into 370 architecture ... the 370
architecture group in POK said that it wasn't possible to justify an
multiprocessing-specific instruction for 370 so it would be necessary to
invent a use for the instruction in non-multiprocessing environment ...
thus was born the programming notes on how to use CAS by multi-threaded
applications (whether they were running on uniprocessor or
multiprocessor). Also in getting CAS into 370 ... both a word and double
word version was defined so the mnemonic got changed from CAS to CS and
CDS (it was going to be the only mnemonic that i know of that started
out as somebody's initials)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

and then of course there is SCIDS
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#5 Definition of SHARE & SCIDS
Requested
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#6 Definition of SHARE & SCIDS
Requested

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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread ibm-main
From: "Edward E. Jaffe"
>
> Or better yet, copyRIGHT it.

Nah - only Linus can get away with that.
In the open/free world copyleft (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/copyleft.html)
is the go.

Shane ...

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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

ibm-main wrote:

Not bad 



Agreed.


- maybe I should copywrite that ...
 



Or better yet, copyRIGHT it.

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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread ibm-main
'tis indeeed.
Freudian slip - I was compiling a kernel in another session at the time I
wrote that.
Linux + vmlinuz -> Linuz

Not bad - maybe I should copywrite that ...

Shane ...

From: "Ted MacNEIL"
> ...
> It's LINUX.

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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Skip Robinson
At the opposite extreme we have TSO, which as far as I know still stands
for 'Time Sharing Option' but has not shared time or been optional for
decades. I guess that's how you know when you're no longer strategic:
nobody bothers to rebirth your obsolete acronym.  ;-(

.
.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
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626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 09/22/2005
04:37:44 PM:

> Skip Robinson wrote:
>
> >My favorite is still ISPF. It's predecessor, SPF, expressly stood for
> >Structured Programming Facility. Not content merely to add Interactive,
the
> >Hot Button Brigade (tech savvy cousins of the Political Correctness
Police)
> >also re-engineered 'SP' to System Productivity.
> >
> >
>
> SDSF used to stand for Spool Display and Search Facility.
>

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Re: Remplacement of a Peer-to-Peer VTS...

2005-09-22 Thread Skip Robinson
I'm not sure if understand all the issues here, but like the Far Side dog
who only recognizes his own name, I do comprehend 'ESCON' and '~60km'. We
tried ESCON over DWDM at ~100km. It was awful. Given that the published
limitation for ESCON is ~10km, I would be very wary of counting on it to
perform decently at the distance proposed.

FICON, on the other hand, works as well at 100km than ESCON did at 100
meters.

.
.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
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626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 09/22/2005
06:31:09 AM:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> I'm currently dealing with a big problem.
>
> First I'm not a big specialist in zSeries tape storage management :-)
>
> We currently have two sites with a distance about 300-400m.
>
> They want move one of them away at ~60km linked with one DWDM fiber.
>
> We are using a Peer-to-Peer VTS and it needs 8 ESCONs fibers between the
> two rooms and it looks expensive...
>
> So, my superiors want to suppress and replace it by a storage disk
> solution.
>
> Do serious solutions exist?
>
> Can I keep the same quality of services that the P2P VTS was given to me
> (with the AXs)...

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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Skip Robinson wrote:


My favorite is still ISPF. It's predecessor, SPF, expressly stood for
Structured Programming Facility. Not content merely to add Interactive, the
Hot Button Brigade (tech savvy cousins of the Political Correctness Police)
also re-engineered 'SP' to System Productivity.
 



SDSF used to stand for Spool Display and Search Facility.

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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Skip Robinson
My favorite is still ISPF. It's predecessor, SPF, expressly stood for
Structured Programming Facility. Not content merely to add Interactive, the
Hot Button Brigade (tech savvy cousins of the Political Correctness Police)
also re-engineered 'SP' to System Productivity.

This is not be confused with recent, wholly unauthorized revisions to
F.E.M.A.

.
.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
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626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 09/22/2005
04:57:19 AM:

> I suspect that's true of a lot of acronyms.
>
> A long time ago, I worked on a very obscure minicomputer, and all of
> the utilities were named after the then-girlfriends of the
> developers.  The semantic contortions they used to turn those names
> into acronyms were really amusing.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:00 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3
> >
> >
> > >I laughed at the people who
> > pretended that it was better to have an acronym than have it mean
> > "spool"
> > ...
> >
> > I always thought it came first; then somebody said: “So, what
> > do we make it stand for?”.

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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>From what I can gather, Linuz on zSeries (as in little zed) has been a
spectacular failure in this part of the world.
...
It's LINUX.

But, I know of a couple of places that have had great success.
One of them being the Government of Quebec.

As with anything, you need people who can find their donkey with only one hand.

The benefit is the way mainframes can still perform at 100%.

Mid-range can/will not.

I'm in the process of writing a proposal to convert our UNIX to LINUX on the 
M/F.

The mid-range people are justifying LINUX. I'm justifying the platform.

-teD

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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:24:17 -0400, Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Correct I meant Z/VM.  But you point on cost is good.
>
>-Original Message-
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>Of McKown, John
>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:15 PM
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>Subject: Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark, Kevin D,
>> HRC-Alexandria/EDS
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:00 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>> Subject: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> A need a quick consciences on installing  websphere
>> applications and some
>> non-IBM products on the mainframe Z/os 1.4
>>
>> Should I use Z/OS USS only.
>>
>> Or
>>
>> Install LINUX on Z/OS and install the products on LINUX.
>>
>>
>> Thanks...
>
>First, to be a pendant. Linux does not run on z/OS. Linux runs in its own
>LPAR or under z/VM. Therefore, if you want to use Linux, you must __BUY__ it
>and run it on separat LPAR (directly on the LPAR or under z/VM on that
>LPAR).
>
>Using Linux will increase your costs. Why? First, in order to get WAS to be
>supported by IBM in a Linux environment, you must run specific
>versions/distributions of Linux. These are not free (as in beer). Second,
>you must have at least one person who knows how to install, customize, and
>maintain Linux on zSeries. Or you must have a support relationship with a
>Linux VAR such as Sine Nomine Associates
>(http://sinenomine.net/) to do it for you.
>
>
>--
>John McKown
>Senior Systems Programmer
>UICI Insurance Center
>Information Technology
>

I just got done installing WebSphere using a ServerPac.  I didn't need too
many Rolaids.  The real planning is in the configuration dialog and jobs,
not the ServerPac stuff.
Took me a little more than a day, but that was taking all the defaults.  Now
I'll turn it over to someone who thinks they know how to administrate it. :-)

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SHOWMVS

2005-09-22 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Starting with SHOWzOS 712 beta some user discover some problems related to 
bad macros IGDSGCL and IEFSSSA. 

Not to say the PLX code works just fine. I still wonder why SHOWzOS is still 
the first

Roland Schiradin
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Re: SPOOL

2005-09-22 Thread Ed Gould

Howard,

I was guessing U.N.C.L.E. stood for something else. I visited the web 
site and they agree with you definition.

I am dropping bits more and more:(

Ed

On Sep 22, 2005, at 8:46 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:


On 22 Sep 2005 05:44:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris
Hoelscher) wrote:


I always thought it came first; then somebody said: ?So, what
do we make it stand for??.


when the TV show "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." first came out (1964?) - 
UNCLE
did not stand for anything (it may have been inteded to be an 
acronym, but
no specific words had been assigned)- only after public clamour did 
some

marketing genius come up with "United Network Command for Law and
Enforcement".


That's the acronym I remember but recently read they actually
published two different acronyms for U.N.C.L.E.The thing about
this story that doesn't make sense is the periods in the name of the
show.

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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread ibm-main
Interesting (first) point - the support costs are a "no brainer".
>From what I can gather, Linuz on zSeries (as in little zed) has been a
spectacular failure in this part of the world.
Wonder if issues such as this (which I hadn't even thought of) contribute to
the inertia.

Shane ...

From: "McKown, John"
>
> Using Linux will increase your costs. Why? First, in order to get WAS to
> be supported by IBM in a Linux environment, you must run specific
> versions/distributions of Linux. These are not free (as in beer).
> Second, you must have at least one person who knows how to install,
> customize, and maintain Linux on zSeries.

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SMP/E v3r4.0 vs. BPXPRMxx AUTOCVT(ON)?

2005-09-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a followup in MVS-OE:

   Linkname: [EMAIL PROTECTED] post from [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
URL: http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?MVS-OE.42223

an IBM employee has suggested:

If you want autoconversion in ishell (oedit, obrowse, rexx,
or anything other than LE enabled C programs) use AUTOCVT(ON)
in your BPXPRMxx.

To which the OP (and others) replied that setting makes some
things better, but others much worse, particularly some Java
operations.

Since SMP/E v3r4.0 will support Java v.2 as an alternative to
ICSF, I wonder whether SMP/E has been tested with this
environmental setting, and with various autoconversion and
other settings that the user might specify in his ~/.profile
(which I suggested earlier that SMP/E shouldn't read)?  How
about RECEIVE FROMNTS with SMPNTS NFS mounted, with various
default translation settings?  (I do this regularly, but only
when I load the SMPNTS from the same host, so the translation
should be the same in both directions.)  How about RECEIVE
FROMNETWORK with server=localhost, and various settings of
autoconversion in the FTP server process space?  (Well, that's
properly an FTP problem, but SMP/E will likely get the first
problem reports in some cases.)

It's regrettable that an IBM representative has suggested
a global configuration change with possible pervasive
consequences for what should have been deemed a local problem.
It's much more regrettable that there is no local alternative
recourse.

Allowing EBCDIC in the HFS was a colossal blunder; the pain
is spreading.  HFS should have been pure ASCII from the start.
Autoconversion is an abomination that attempts to solve the
attendant problems, but largely adds complexity, reduces
predictability, and increases testing multiplicity.

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Re: z/OS and OS/390 education

2005-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>with proud WVTE Consultancy introduces the new trainings & course
catalogue.
...

Am I the only one who hates ads on IBM-Main?

I get enought SPAM from places I never subscribed to!

-teD

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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS
Correct I meant Z/VM.  But you point on cost is good.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark, Kevin D, 
> HRC-Alexandria/EDS
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:00 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> A need a quick consciences on installing  websphere
> applications and some
> non-IBM products on the mainframe Z/os 1.4
> 
> Should I use Z/OS USS only.
> 
> Or
> 
> Install LINUX on Z/OS and install the products on LINUX.
> 
> 
> Thanks...

First, to be a pendant. Linux does not run on z/OS. Linux runs in its own
LPAR or under z/VM. Therefore, if you want to use Linux, you must __BUY__ it
and run it on separat LPAR (directly on the LPAR or under z/VM on that
LPAR).

Using Linux will increase your costs. Why? First, in order to get WAS to be
supported by IBM in a Linux environment, you must run specific
versions/distributions of Linux. These are not free (as in beer). Second,
you must have at least one person who knows how to install, customize, and
maintain Linux on zSeries. Or you must have a support relationship with a
Linux VAR such as Sine Nomine Associates
(http://sinenomine.net/) to do it for you.


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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark, Kevin D, 
> HRC-Alexandria/EDS
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:00 PM
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> Subject: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?
> 
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> A need a quick consciences on installing  websphere 
> applications and some
> non-IBM products on the mainframe Z/os 1.4
> 
> Should I use Z/OS USS only.
> 
> Or 
> 
> Install LINUX on Z/OS and install the products on LINUX. 
> 
> 
> Thanks...

First, to be a pendant. Linux does not run on z/OS. Linux runs in its
own LPAR or under z/VM. Therefore, if you want to use Linux, you must
__BUY__ it and run it on separat LPAR (directly on the LPAR or under
z/VM on that LPAR).

Using Linux will increase your costs. Why? First, in order to get WAS to
be supported by IBM in a Linux environment, you must run specific
versions/distributions of Linux. These are not free (as in beer).
Second, you must have at least one person who knows how to install,
customize, and maintain Linux on zSeries. Or you must have a support
relationship with a Linux VAR such as Sine Nomine Associates
(http://sinenomine.net/) to do it for you.


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Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread Thomas Kern
If you can install LINUX under z/OS, please do so and tell all of us how you
did it. But so far Linux runs in an LPAR or under z/VM. 

But my feelings about your real question (to use z/OS USS or something else) is
to use what you are familiar with and what your management is familiar with.
Going off to a new platform without real support from management can cause
ulcers, high blood pressure, etc etc etc.
 
/Tom Kern

--- "Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hello All, 
> 
> A need a quick consciences on installing  websphere applications and some
> non-IBM products on the mainframe Z/os 1.4
> 
> Should I use Z/OS USS only.
> 
> Or 
> 
> Install LINUX on Z/OS and install the products on LINUX. 
> 
> 
> Thanks...




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WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-22 Thread Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS
Hello All, 

A need a quick consciences on installing  websphere applications and some
non-IBM products on the mainframe Z/os 1.4

Should I use Z/OS USS only.

Or 

Install LINUX on Z/OS and install the products on LINUX. 


Thanks...

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IBM 2105 PPRC

2005-09-22 Thread Carlos A Bodra
Hi,

Can anyone tell me about performance of 2 x 2105-F20 with PPRC (v1 or v2)
using 2 or 4 escon cables between them?

At my mind I have that 4 is better than 2, alternate physical path etc...,
but any real expirience. 
Or there are a Redbook about?

Thanks

Carlos Alberto Bodra
Sao Paulo - SP - Brasil

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Re: IBM and float decimal

2005-09-22 Thread Bill Klein
Form a "usually reliable source" (at IBM) (exact quotation),

"IBM has stated that it will be putting support for decimal floating-point 
in hardware in future processors.   That hardware will implement the 
decimal formats and arithmetic that were agreed by the 754r committee in 
2003 and which are in the current IEEE 754r draft."

I was also told to "watch this spot" for future announcements (but no
indications WHEN). 

NOTE WELL:
  to follow-up on my original note, it really, REALLY, is important for
those concerned with this issue to vote (hopefully NO) on the outstanding
proposal to CHANGE the current draft specification to a "binary" format -
and to do so before  Sep 28.

Again, if you have any question (if my original note was not worded well
enough), please feel free to contact me "off-list" at:
   wmklein  ix.netcom.com

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mullins
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:58 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: IBM and float decimal
> 
> Interesting.   I've heard there are two levels of precision, 
> which I guess
> would correspond to 4 and 8 bytes.
> 
> Now to go do some Google searching.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glen
> > herrmannsfeldt
> > Sent: Monday 19 September 2005 00:13
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: IBM and float decimal
> >
> > Ray Mullins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I can't vote, but I've got a question...
> >
> > > I've heard rumors about a new IBM numeric format - sort of like
> > > "decimal floating point" - combining the best of float + PD.  It's
> > > supposedly in the
> > > z9 hardware (or will be).  How does this play in this whole
> > discussion?
> >
> > There has been discussion of the proposed float decimal
> > standard for some time, and I believe some papers (maybe
> > electronic only) written about it.  It is pretty close in
> > efficiency for the available range to float binary, where the
> > extra range of a base 10 exponent makes up for the reduction
> > in the fraction due to decimal normalization.
> > (The fraction is stored three digits per 10 bits, with the
> > remaining digits in normal BCD form, and a base 10 exponent.)
> >
> > I have not heard any stories of it appearing on any machine, though.
> >

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Re: MXI 4.3

2005-09-22 Thread Rob Scott
Having just tried the same command under MXI on my system and getting
exactly 50 lines too has caused me to have a quick look at this.

The interesting thing is the last message that TCPIP throws out :

"47 OF 237 RECORDS DISPLAYED"

Coupled together with a two other heading style messages - this makes 50
lines.

To me that indicates that it has replied to the "D TCPIP" command using
the CART that MXI supplies. At this stage MXI thinks that it has got all
of the response and returns the results back to the user.

I will have to investigate further if this is a problem with the MXI
code or just a WAD.

Rob Scott
www.rs.com

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Listers:

I am running MXI 4.3 under OS/390 2.10

When I issue an mvs command using the / option I only get
back 50 lines of messages.

I have RTFM'd to no avail.

I tried increasing the EMCSWAIT and EMCSFILL parameters of MXI but
same result.

I was trying to do a D TCPIP,,N,CONN command using MXI's mvs command (/)
option.
When I issue this command thru TSO I get over 1,000 lines.
Any ideas?

Thank you.

Regards,
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Re: Article in Information week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted

2005-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 09/21/2005
   at 06:36 AM, "Huckert, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I have to agree with bill on some points but there are exceptions. I
>am 28 and I have been a mainframe operator for about 5 years now and
>I am looking to get into system programming. I was raised  with a
>strong work ethic and I do all I can to make sure my work is done and
>done right the first time. I have worked long hours OFF the clock
>with my previous sys prog to try and learn as much as I can.
>Unfortunately, just like other data centers I have worked at, this
>company moved off the mainframe. I was once involved in a conversion
>of a client from VSE to MVS and I worked several 20 and 30 hour days
>to help the conversion.

I might believe a 30-hour shift ;-)

BTW, I would encourage anybody putting in such hours, or managing a
team putting in  such hours, to carefully monitor[1] the error rate
and to consider the possibility that the job might get done faster
with mandatory naps and rest breaks.

>Umm if I have not made everyone to terribly mad does anyone have any
>advice on what I can do to help get into mainframe system
>programming?

That's a toughy. Operations used to be a standard source of
candidates, but these day's companies are looking for external
candidates with experience, offshoring the work, or both.

>My hunch was because the programming manager ipl'ed it by flipping
>the power switch off.

Ouch!

[1] Better, have a 3rd party m0onitor your error rate; if you're 
   exhausted enough to affect your judgement, you're exhausted enough
to not realize it.
 
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Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 09/21/2005
   at 05:08 AM, "Kenneth J. Kripke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Apologies on the previous two incomplete posts.
>Question: Is there a way to capture the results of an IP WHERE from a
>REXX EXEC running under IPCS and store it in a REXX variable?
>I don't think the command uses PUTLINE to put the message out, but, I
>could be wrong.

If WHERE uses TPUT directly then you can still capture the output if
you run under Session Manager. You'll need a special logon proc.

Even that won't trap ISPF output. The suggestion to use PRINT is
probably the most bullet proof.
 
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Re: Curiousity: format of an unused page dataset?

2005-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
09/21/2005
   at 10:34 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Thanks for the pointer. The explanation is fairly high level, with no
>implementation details. However, it appears that in the past
>(pre-z/OS 1.3), the page data sets were simply initialized by filling
>them with 4K blocks containing all binary zeros (or perhaps even
>random data?).

That and creating BCS and VVDS entries.
 
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Re: COBOL Compiler Help

2005-09-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
09/22/2005
   at 07:18 AM, "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Wasn't that "Microsoft Bob"?

Microsoft Bob is now Mrs. William Gates.
 
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Re: SMS add volume to storage group

2005-09-22 Thread Barry Schwarz
If your storage admin plans for growth or changing requirements, your storage 
groups probably have extra volumes defined in them.  You can confirm this by 
issuing the command
  D SMS,SG(group_name),LISTVOL
 
The ones that do not have addresses in the display are "spare."  Pick one, 
initialize a new volume to that volser (as described in a previous response) 
and SMS should start using it immediately.  If for some reason the spare 
volumes were not enabled, you can enable this one to all members of your 
sysplex with
  V SMS,VOL(volser,ALL),E


Mike Liberatore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Our storage administrator is out sick and I got the job of adding new volumes 
to our active SMS environment. I guess someone knew that had some SMS 
expierence in the past. Anyway we share SMS across three LPARS ,I know I have 
to define a VTOC, INDEX VTOC and since we run FDRABR so I also need to allocate 
a FDR file(?) on these volume(s) that I will be adding. I haven't done SMS 
administrative tasks in sometime. So I was wondering if someone could share 
with me the steps required to add volume(s) to a SMS Storage group Via ISMF and 
any other steps needed outside of ISMF. Can this process, adding volumes to 
SMS, also be done in Batch. Thanks in advance!!

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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
WRT proxy listener issues, that is way  beyond my experience so I can't
comment there.  However, thanks for the reminder that there can be "rules"
on the assignment of LU's from TCP/IP connections.  I knew that but had
forgotten it.  It would affect any program substituting for a TN3270E
client.

WRT s3270/x3270, that's a fine idea -- IF the z/OS system has them
available.  Not every installation is so forward-looking.

Besides, have you ever seen any cogent documentation on actually using
s3270?  I've looked, and so far the only doc available is the INFO/MAN
files, and they are somewhat less than helpful, IMHO.  Also, there are no
examples anywhere I can find.  If you know of any, please share the
location(s).

WRT 3270 emulation, it is not needed with the right interface software.
That's why HACL is so attractive -- all that detail stuff is already buried
in the provided java classes.  No need to program any of it.  The screen
capture part is relatively trivial.

Peter

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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Arney
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:27 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?
> 
> 
> Using John's approach you would have to worry about things like 
> keeping track of each client session IP address and port number so you 
> could support multiple sessions from a client and during the replay, 
> send the proper input to the right (new) TN3270 session.

I don't see this. The "proxy" does a LISTEN on a port. When the client
"connects", I eventually end up with a socket. All I/O to/from the client
occurs on this socket. The code then connects to the TN3270E server and I
end up with a second socket. All input from the first socket goes to the
second socket and vice versa. If the same client attaches to me again, I get
a second set of sockets that are in no way related (IP-wise) to the first
set of sockets.

> 
> Your "transparent proxy" would also look to the TN3270 server to be 
> the client machine (IP address of connection origin).  This can cause 
> all sorts of problems with how the server allows or decides how your 
> client can use its services and what LUs are allocated to its 
> sessions.

Very good point. I had forgotten about this because we do not do any kind of
LU assignment based on IP address. There might also be a problem if there is
a RESTRICTAPPL in the defination of the "real" PORT. I'm not sure of this,
but I think it is likely.

> 
> And to build the screen image buffer from the 3270 data streams, you 
> have to basically write a 3270 emulator.

True. But I think this would be true of any "capture" type program which
wants to compare 3270 screens. So this particular capture method shouldn't
be any harder than any other capture method.

> 
> Agreed, these things can be handled, but I don't think this would be 
> an easy path to do what he wants.

Again, I agree. It would not be easy in the absolute sense. But I do think
that it would be "easier" (FSVO easier) than doing the equivalent processing
with a VTAM LU "capture" program.

Actually, if I were needing this, I would likely do the capture using Linux.
I've not thought about it in detail, but using "s3270" and/or "expect" with
"x3270" come to mind.

> 
> Chuck Arney
> illustro Systems International, LLC

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Re: DFSORT - Case insensitive sorting possible?

2005-09-22 Thread Frank Yaeger
Dave Low wrote:
> Using DFSORT, is it possible to perform a sort treating lowercase
> characters as uppercase?  I expected there to be an option for this
> but could not find such an option in the manual.  I see lowercase to
> uppercase translation of fields.  That may satisfy the user but
> probably isn't the best solution.

Sorry for the delayed response - I was out of town on vacation (now I'm in
town on vacation :)

You can use the following control statements to do a case insensitive sort
as explained in this
ALTSEQ example from "z/OS DFSORT Application Programming Guide":

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA10/3.4.1.4?SHELF=&DT=20050222160456

  SORT FIELDS=(p,m,AQ,A)
  ALTSEQ CODE=(81C1,82C2,83C3,84C4,85C5,86C6,87C7,
88C8,89C9,91D1,92D2,93D3,94D4,95D5,96D6,
97D7,98D8,99D9,A2E2,A3E3,A4E4,A5E5,A6E6,
A7E7,A8E8,A9E9)

p,m is the starting position and length of the sort field.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread McKown, John
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> 
> Yes, the active connection(s) is not the problem I was 
> bringing up.  But,
> when you record the information for later playback you have 
> to keep each
> session straight so you can send the input back to the proper replay
> session.  This would have to be based on the client IP 
> address and port
> number for the original session.  I was thinking along the lines of a
> multi-session facility.  This would not be a problem if you 
> are supporting a
> single session. 


Ah, true. I did not go into how to actually record each session's data
stream. I would ASSuME that each session would go to a unique (UNIX?)
file. If the data from every session were to go into a single file
(interleaved with all the other sessions), then you'd need some "token"
in the record to associate the individual records to a particular
session. In this case, I would likely do an STCKE at the when I got the
connection request and keep it in the same data structure as I was using
to store the host<->me<->user sockets. Then every record in the file
would contain this "token", the data flow direction, and the actual
data.

Another method would to not have a single STC doing this capture. The
capture program could be written to be started via inetd (which would be
the process actually doing the LISTEN on the port). When a connection
request came in to the port, inetd would set up the socket, then start
the actual capture process (fork()/exec()), passing it the already set
up socket. In this case, there would be exactly one UNIX process for
each session. It would likely be easier to write such a capture program
since it would not need to be reentrant or multitasking
(multi-threaded?). Of course, this method has greater CPU overhead. It
is also more "UNIXy" and thus not as familar to most z/OS people.

Again, if it were me, I'd likely use a unique UNIX file to log each
session. To generate the unique filename, I'd likely use the output of
an STCKE, translated into printable hex as part of the file name. To me,
this would be easier to read/write and maintain. If everything were in
one big file, then the replay program would need to be able to select
one (or more) "streams" to replay. I'm not sure if each record in the
file should also have a timestamp, or if just the physical order of the
records would be sufficient. A plus to each record having a timestamp
would be the ability to get "response time" information. This could be
helpful in a non-constrainted system to compare if the program changes
had any significant effect on response time.



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MXI 4.3

2005-09-22 Thread Roberto Halais Kareh
Listers:

I am running MXI 4.3 under OS/390 2.10

When I issue an mvs command using the / option I only get
back 50 lines of messages.

I have RTFM'd to no avail.

I tried increasing the EMCSWAIT and EMCSFILL parameters of MXI but
same result.

I was trying to do a D TCPIP,,N,CONN command using MXI's mvs command (/) option.
When I issue this command thru TSO I get over 1,000 lines.
Any ideas?

Thank you.

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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Chuck Arney
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> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:49 AM
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> 
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> >
> >
> > Using John's approach you would have to worry about things
> > like keeping
> > track of each client session IP address and port number so
> > you could support
> > multiple sessions from a client and during the replay, send
> > the proper input
> > to the right (new) TN3270 session.
> 
> I don't see this. The "proxy" does a LISTEN on a port. When the client
> "connects", I eventually end up with a socket. All I/O to/from the
> client occurs on this socket. The code then connects to the TN3270E
> server and I end up with a second socket. All input from the first
> socket goes to the second socket and vice versa. If the same client
> attaches to me again, I get a second set of sockets that are in no way
> related (IP-wise) to the first set of sockets.
> 

Yes, the active connection(s) is not the problem I was bringing up.  But,
when you record the information for later playback you have to keep each
session straight so you can send the input back to the proper replay
session.  This would have to be based on the client IP address and port
number for the original session.  I was thinking along the lines of a
multi-session facility.  This would not be a problem if you are supporting a
single session. 

  Snipped some stuff
 
> >
> > And to build the screen image buffer from the 3270 data
> > streams, you have to
> > basically write a 3270 emulator.
> 
> True. But I think this would be true of any "capture" type program which
> wants to compare 3270 screens. So this particular capture method
> shouldn't be any harder than any other capture method.
> 

Not if he can use an existing facility to handle all the 3270 data and just
get access to the screen image data.

> >
> > Agreed, these things can be handled, but I don't think this
> > would be an easy
> > path to do what he wants.
> 
> Again, I agree. It would not be easy in the absolute sense. But I do
> think that it would be "easier" (FSVO easier) than doing the equivalent
> processing with a VTAM LU "capture" program.
> 
> Actually, if I were needing this, I would likely do the capture using
> Linux. I've not thought about it in detail, but using "s3270" and/or
> "expect" with "x3270" come to mind.

Yes, something along those lines.  Again, using an existing facility without
having to write the 3270 emulator.

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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?
> 
> 
> Using John's approach you would have to worry about things 
> like keeping
> track of each client session IP address and port number so 
> you could support
> multiple sessions from a client and during the replay, send 
> the proper input
> to the right (new) TN3270 session.

I don't see this. The "proxy" does a LISTEN on a port. When the client
"connects", I eventually end up with a socket. All I/O to/from the
client occurs on this socket. The code then connects to the TN3270E
server and I end up with a second socket. All input from the first
socket goes to the second socket and vice versa. If the same client
attaches to me again, I get a second set of sockets that are in no way
related (IP-wise) to the first set of sockets.

> 
> Your "transparent proxy" would also look to the TN3270 server 
> to be the
> client machine (IP address of connection origin).  This can 
> cause all sorts
> of problems with how the server allows or decides how your 
> client can use
> its services and what LUs are allocated to its sessions. 

Very good point. I had forgotten about this because we do not do any
kind of LU assignment based on IP address. There might also be a problem
if there is a RESTRICTAPPL in the defination of the "real" PORT. I'm not
sure of this, but I think it is likely.

> 
> And to build the screen image buffer from the 3270 data 
> streams, you have to
> basically write a 3270 emulator.

True. But I think this would be true of any "capture" type program which
wants to compare 3270 screens. So this particular capture method
shouldn't be any harder than any other capture method.

> 
> Agreed, these things can be handled, but I don't think this 
> would be an easy
> path to do what he wants.

Again, I agree. It would not be easy in the absolute sense. But I do
think that it would be "easier" (FSVO easier) than doing the equivalent
processing with a VTAM LU "capture" program.

Actually, if I were needing this, I would likely do the capture using
Linux. I've not thought about it in detail, but using "s3270" and/or
"expect" with "x3270" come to mind.

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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You can use RMF II to monitor the system and write to SMF.
You need ASD(A,A).
Run the post processor and look for non-zero PIN RT.
Set the interval for around one minute.

Depending on the size of your shop, this should add 1-3% to your SMF data.

I've done this in the past.

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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Chuck Arney
Using John's approach you would have to worry about things like keeping
track of each client session IP address and port number so you could support
multiple sessions from a client and during the replay, send the proper input
to the right (new) TN3270 session.

Your "transparent proxy" would also look to the TN3270 server to be the
client machine (IP address of connection origin).  This can cause all sorts
of problems with how the server allows or decides how your client can use
its services and what LUs are allocated to its sessions. 

And to build the screen image buffer from the 3270 data streams, you have to
basically write a 3270 emulator.

Agreed, these things can be handled, but I don't think this would be an easy
path to do what he wants.

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> 
> I suggest this simply because, to me, this TCPIP program would be easier
> to code than the equivalent VTAM program.
> 

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Re: Cancel a VTAM post

2005-09-22 Thread Charles Mills
In the 90's I was responsible for a product (Outbound, now ASG-Outbound
Express, in case anyone remembers or still uses it) that used VTAM in batch.
We would issue an OPNDST for an LU. If the OPNDST did not complete in a
greater-than-reasonable amount of time, we needed to be able to cancel it
and move on. (The problem only occurred in unusual circumstances; if the LU
was in a "good" but disconnected state VTAM failed the request right away.)
VTAM offered no way for an application to cancel a "hung" OPNDST. The OPNDST
control blocks, including the ECB, were in GETMAIN storage that our logic
freed and/or re-used. If the OPNDST ever completed (say the LU came on line
later but while the jobstep was still running) or when we eventually closed
the ACB, VTAM would try to post the ECB, get an ABEND, take a system dump,
make our customers unhappy, etc., etc.

IBM eventually agreed that VTAM was missing a function, took an APAR, and
implemented CLSDST OPTCD=TERMQ to provide the "cancel a hung OPNDST"
function. It was a big help. It worked about 90% of the time. (The fix fell
out of the next release of VTAM, but IBM dutifully put it back again. We got
to know VTAM developers on a first name basis.)

Somehow though, only 10% as many system dumps still didn't make the
customers happy.

We ended up putting the RPL and ECB for OPNDSTs in their own piece of
GETMAIN storage (separate from our other session-related dynamic storage) in
a unique sub-pool. Then, if the OPNDST did not complete one way or another,
we simply abandoned this small bit of storage (300 bytes?) and left it
allocated - in effect, introducing an intentional memory leak. This solved
the problem, and did not create a problem of its own with storage leaks,
because the problem only happened once or twice in a given batch jobstep, so
the total memory leakage was only several hundred bytes - although in theory
it could have been much higher.

Perhaps you could consider a similar approach.

Charles

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We have a situaton where the thread is being killed,so when VTAM gets back
to post ,it finds the ecb  wrong and hits with s0a8,thats why I am want to
cancel the post.

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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
John,

Yes, that's an alternative, but still a lot more complex (to me anyway) than
I need.  I don't anticipate capturing user input; since I'm the user, I'll
make up the inputs myself.  And composing TN370E packets into 3270 screen
images is definitely more work than I want to take on.  It's certainly
doable, but why re-invent the wheel?  That's what the HACL beans library
will do for me (I am presuming, at this point -- still reading the javadoc
for it, slowly absorbing the philosophy and design).  Reading out the
contents of the Presentation Space is an integral function provided by the
library.

And yes, regression testing of code changes is the application, along with
"proof of enhancements completed".  Being a lazy programmer, I'd rather
write a tool once to do the job than to manually take screen prints of 3270
interactions to show that the work was completed as specified for each
project.

Peter


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If I understand correctly, what you basically want is the ability to capture
3270 screens for later comparison. You would like to do this capture on the
z/OS system if at all possible. And the solution needs to be zero, or at
least very low, cost. (Do I ever understand that last one!). From other
posts, I would guess that you'd also like to capture all the 3270 inputs.
The eventual goal is to be able to capture 3270 inputs and outputs so that
the inputs could be replayed later and the new outputs compared against the
old outputs. (regression testing of code changes?).

The following is just "off the top of my head" (like my hair ).
You mentioned that you don't want to write a VTAM "capture" type routine due
to its complexity. How about a TCP/IP "capture" type routine? I think you'd
write something like a "transparent proxy". What your routine would do is
LISTEN on a particular IP port. The end-user would connect to this port.
Upon connection, your routine would attempt to connect to the normal TN3270E
port. Your routine would simple "route"
(or "copy") the IP packets between the TN3270E server on the mainframe and
the TN3270E client on the other end. You shouldn't need to actually inspect
or change them. As it was routing the packets, it could record them to a
file on the mainframe (with an indicator as to which direction the packet
was flowing). When you wanted to "replay" a session, you would write another
program to connect to the TN3270E port on the mainframe, read the previously
recorded file, and send that information to the TN3270E server. You could
then compare the response from the application to the response recorded in
the file. The main problem that I can see is that there are many possible
TN3270E sequences which would result in the same 3270 screen display. So I
guess the "comparison"
would require actually creating a 3270 "buffer" from the file contents and
the response, then compare the buffers. This instead of directly comparing
the TN3270E data streams, byte for byte. There is still a matter of error
recovery or propagation if either socket is abnormally terminated. But I
think this is easier to program than the LU error recovery / propagation.

I suggest this simply because, to me, this TCPIP program would be easier to
code than the equivalent VTAM program.

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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353
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> 
> 
> Thanks, I will look at that.  However, I'm not really looking 
> for something
> tied to a webserver, if it can be avoided.  All I need is the 
> ability to
> programmatically act as a 3270 terminal and record the 
> outputs that I get
> from the applications that I run.  And no, I don't really 
> want to write VTAM
> LU code either.  BTDT, much more complicated than my minimalist needs.
> 
> Peter 

If I understand correctly, what you basically want is the ability to
capture 3270 screens for later comparison. You would like to do this
capture on the z/OS system if at all possible. And the solution needs to
be zero, or at least very low, cost. (Do I ever understand that last
one!). From other posts, I would guess that you'd also like to capture
all the 3270 inputs. The eventual goal is to be able to capture 3270
inputs and outputs so that the inputs could be replayed later and the
new outputs compared against the old outputs. (regression testing of
code changes?).

The following is just "off the top of my head" (like my hair ).
You mentioned that you don't want to write a VTAM "capture" type routine
due to its complexity. How about a TCP/IP "capture" type routine? I
think you'd write something like a "transparent proxy". What your
routine would do is LISTEN on a particular IP port. The end-user would
connect to this port. Upon connection, your routine would attempt to
connect to the normal TN3270E port. Your routine would simple "route"
(or "copy") the IP packets between the TN3270E server on the mainframe
and the TN3270E client on the other end. You shouldn't need to actually
inspect or change them. As it was routing the packets, it could record
them to a file on the mainframe (with an indicator as to which direction
the packet was flowing). When you wanted to "replay" a session, you
would write another program to connect to the TN3270E port on the
mainframe, read the previously recorded file, and send that information
to the TN3270E server. You could then compare the response from the
application to the response recorded in the file. The main problem that
I can see is that there are many possible TN3270E sequences which would
result in the same 3270 screen display. So I guess the "comparison"
would require actually creating a 3270 "buffer" from the file contents
and the response, then compare the buffers. This instead of directly
comparing the TN3270E data streams, byte for byte. There is still a
matter of error recovery or propagation if either socket is abnormally
terminated. But I think this is easier to program than the LU error
recovery / propagation.

I suggest this simply because, to me, this TCPIP program would be easier
to code than the equivalent VTAM program.

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Re: URL for CICS TS 3.1 Internet Repository

2005-09-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Edward E. Jaffe wrote:


My normal softcopy Internet URL doesn't have the CICS TS 3.1 books.



IBM has acknowledged the error in the Softcopy Librarian descriptor 
file. They told me it should be updated by October 1. From what I 
gather, other product documentation will be updated at the same time.


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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 07:54:51 -0500, Bob H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Mark,
>I took a look at RMF III and that report shows current aux store usage by
>asid, but only goes back an hour or so.  I am still wondering the best way
>for me to shoot a ... say 5 min slowdown caused by a few ASIDS running
>paging off the charts, a few days after the fact.  Does Candle Omegamon
>epilog keep that kind of detail?

It sounds like you are using the default RMF III member (ERBRMF04)
from SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB.  You need to define history data sets and
add them to the RMF III parm member.  There is a rexx exec in
in SYS1.SERBCLS to help you do this:

ERBVSDEF VSAM_DSN VSAMVOL(VOLUME) TRACKS(NUM_TRACKS)

I have 18 data sets that are 50 CYLs each. Depending on which
LPAR they hold anywhere from 40 to 72 hours worth of data. This
depends on the MINTIME setting also in ERBRMFxx.

See the RMF manuals for more details.  If you are curious about
"why so many small data sets", check the archives and the section
on defining the data sets in the RMF user guide.

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Re: URL for CICS TS 3.1 Internet Repository

2005-09-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

R.S. wrote:


Wouldn't be a solution for you to order IBM doc DVD ?
It's not very expensive ($5.00) and contains everything except LYxx 
books. 'Everything' means z/OS and all IBM products for z/OS.

Already organized into shelves.



Of course, this is an excellent solution for my immediate need. I 
already have the DVD. I just keep forgetting to bring it to work.


It turns out that the CICS ID people are so wrapped up in making these 
new article-based, Eclipse information centers that nobody remembered to 
update the Softcopy Librarian descriptor file (erbscrt.des?) at 
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com when the new CICS TS 3.1 manuals were 
released. I've opened a PMR to get this straightened out.


IMHO, this "article-based" documentation is just awful. I *much* prefer 
"book-based" documentation. Our intranet uses IBM's Library Server for 
z/OS to serve up both BookManager and PDF documents. The same documents 
are available natively to our TSO/E users via BookManager READ under 
ISPF. We use Softcopy Librarian to keep the repository current. The 
whole system works extremely well for our needs. And the price is right!


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Re: Setting Completion Code in Batch?

2005-09-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Peter Relson wrote:


(HLASM imposes a limit of 255 on return code.  Very
stingy to save 3 bytes somewhere.)
   



Actually, it only (in a way) saves 4 bits somewhere.
Only the last 12 bits of the return value in register 15
appear to be used (they're certainly the only bits that
are presented in the standard system messages).
 



Indeed. When JES3 first started maintaining maximum step completion 
codes in its control blocks, they stored the full 4-byte value. We 
noticed this "enhancement" right away and decided to display the full 
value in (E)JES displays. It was wonderful! The return code values from 
programs like FTP finally made sense! JES3 even surfaced this "extended" 
return code value to SSI 80 callers through STTRMXRC. As a programmer, 
all you had to do to convert to the old-style return codes was simply 
AND with a mask like x'0FFF'.


Alas, some ijit user got confused because the values we displayed 
disagreed with those shown in certain messages produced by the BCP so 
JES3 "fixed" the problem (via APAR OW47363) by ANDing the value /before/ 
storing into the control block! Having become accustomed to -- and 
somewhat reliant upon -- the "enhanced" return codes, I argued 
strenuously against this change.


I was overruled.

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Re: STK SL8500 Libgen

2005-09-22 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
Thanks.  I'll go with that one.  I scanned the manual for sample instead
of example.  



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Re: URL for CICS TS 3.1 Internet Repository

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 08:37:16 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Edward E. Jaffe wrote:
>
>> My normal softcopy Internet URL doesn't have the CICS TS 3.1 books. I
>> found the CICS TS 3.1 library on the Internet -- which carries the
>> manuals in both BOOK and PDF form -- at
>> http://www.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/tserver/v31/library/, but I
>> *really* don't want to have to manually download and catalog them all.
>> There are *lots* of BOOKs and PDFs!
>>
>> Does anyone know a working URL that Softcopy Librarian can use to obtain
>> CICS TS 3.1 BOOKs and PDFs from the Internet?
>>
>Wouldn't be a solution for you to order IBM doc DVD ?
>It's not very expensive ($5.00) and contains everything except LYxx
>books. 'Everything' means z/OS and all IBM products for z/OS.
>Already organized into shelves.
>HTH
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>Lodz, Poland

The price was recently reduced to $20.00, not $5.00.  It least in
the US.  Is it only $5.00 in Poland?

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Re: STK SL8500 Libgen

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 09:39:32 -0400, Kreiter, Chuck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Anyone have an STK SL8500 LIBGEN they would be willing to share with me?
>We are installing one and I'd like to check a working one against the
>one I am creating.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chuck Kreiter
>Lead Systems Programmer
>State Auto Insurance
>

If you really need it I can, but I just cut/pasted the sample from
the HSC 6.0 (min. level of support for the SL8500) configuration
manual.  Appendix B has a sample with a 9310 and a SL8500. The
SL8500 is ACS01 so you only need that part of the gen.  Obviously
you need to modify the drive lists and various macros for the
number of hosts you are supporting, but you would have to do that
with my gen also.

Regards,

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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Knutson, Sam
99 @ LPAR @ 1500 TRKS = one week

Data available from 09/16/05 05.47.00 to 09/22/05 10.14.00 (present) which
is typical of the 7 to 8 days we usually see depends a little on activity
and has shrunk some with the recent addition of several very large storage
processors which also chewed up a good deal of the available addressing
range.

RMF III data is a god send.  I happily trade 943665 Tracks of DASD space for
the 60 second detail on all these partitions.  It saves me in many cases
from needing to run batch reports or dump data and I am able to provide
answers while on the phone with someone.

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-Original Message-

I took a look at RMF III and that report shows current aux store usage by
asid, but only goes back an hour or so.


I get to watch over a number of LPARs, each running RMF III configured to
record to 4-6 150-cylinder datasets.  On every LPAR, RMF III "lookback"
timespan is at least 2 days.

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Re: HOD/HACL running on z/OS?

2005-09-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, I will look at that.  However, I'm not really looking for something
tied to a webserver, if it can be avoided.  All I need is the ability to
programmatically act as a 3270 terminal and record the outputs that I get
from the applications that I run.  And no, I don't really want to write VTAM
LU code either.  BTDT, much more complicated than my minimalist needs.

Peter 

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If I understand what you are asking, not only is it possible, IBM provides a
tool to do it.  It called HATS (Host Access Tranformation something or
other).  HATS is really a plugin to WSAD and creats a J2EE programs, might
specifically be a bean.

If you have HOD, then you either have Host Access Client Package on Host
Integration, HATS comes with either of those.  All you need it WSAD and
Websphere Application Server.  HATS does require WAS.

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Re: SUPERC Insights

2005-09-22 Thread George, William (DHS-ITSD)
WooHOO! That did it! Thanks Mike. The KEY was the including the key
field.
You do good work at 1:59am!!

Bill

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Bill,

Here's my take on what you are after.

I have two files:

Old one
***
10 FRED 
20 JON  
30 SHEILA   
40 JUNE 
50 ALICE    

New one
*** (changes)
10 FRED 
20 JIM  < changes in cols 4-9 (a relevant
change)
30 SHEILA   < changes in cols 12-20 (an irrelevant
change)
35 SHEILA   < a new record
40 JUNE   
< record '50 ALICE' deleted.

To follow your requirements, I want a report on any added or deleted
records, or any changed records in columns 4 to 9. I don't want any
report
of lines changed in columns 12 to 20.

So, in this example, I want report of lines 20, 35, and 50.

I use 'Compare Type' = Line, and 'Listing Type' = Delta

My process statements are:

CMPCOLM 1:2  4:8

And this produces:

I - 20 JIM   
D - 20 JON   
   
I - 35 SHEILA   

D - 50 ALICE   


... is this what you are after?

You need to include (what you see as) your key columns in the comparison
as
well. SuperC doesn't know that changes in this column are relevant
unless
you tell it to. Specifying only cols 999:1005 means it will ignore
changes
in any other columns - including your 'record key'. Adding this should
fix
your problem, hopefully.

hth,
Mike Flint,
Systems Consultant,
Experian.

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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Patrick . Falcone
I haven't worked with EPILOG for a while but I don't believe that you can 
get that kind of detail unless it has changed. You could hiper-link to 
generic aux. storage information from specific screen sets but I don't 
remember seeing the detail you may need to shoot this. 

I currently use Mainview, with a significant back end history database, 
and it has an RMF III look alike menu which shows what tasks do paging 
over set time intervals. I'm sure that RMF III can present this data but 
I'm not familiar enough with RMF III to give you the exact information. 
There's got to be a way to set up a new RMF III database and repoint it, 
at the desired time, to get the data. Or increase the RMF III database to 
get more than 1 hour of data. 





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To all,

Thanks to all for good suggestions.  I'e been looking at this some more 
and
the fact is that we were getting "home grown" page rate alerts due to a
couple factors.
1) Automation kicks off a bunch of stuff at 0500, 0530, 0600.
2) Our enterprising automation guy added a pagerate probe that kicks off 
at
the same times.  It's not dynamic, just a snapshot he takes every 1/2
hour.  False positives.

Mark,
I took a look at RMF III and that report shows current aux store usage by
asid, but only goes back an hour or so.  I am still wondering the best way
for me to shoot a ... say 5 min slowdown caused by a few ASIDS running
paging off the charts, a few days after the fact.  Does Candle Omegamon
epilog keep that kind of detail?

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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe


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I took a look at RMF III and that report shows current aux store usage by
asid, but only goes back an hour or so.


I get to watch over a number of LPARs, each running RMF III configured to
record to 4-6 150-cylinder datasets.  On every LPAR, RMF III "lookback"
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SPOOL

2005-09-22 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 Sep 2005 05:44:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris
Hoelscher) wrote:

>> I always thought it came first; then somebody said: ?So, what 
>> do we make it stand for??.
>
>when the TV show "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." first came out (1964?) - UNCLE 
>did not stand for anything (it may have been inteded to be an acronym, but 
>no specific words had been assigned)- only after public clamour did some 
>marketing genius come up with "United Network Command for Law and 
>Enforcement".

That's the acronym I remember but recently read they actually
published two different acronyms for U.N.C.L.E.The thing about
this story that doesn't make sense is the periods in the name of the
show.

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Re: SMS add volume to storage group

2005-09-22 Thread Bruce Black



Look in the FDR/ABR books for program FDRABRM, which you can use to
produce a model DSCB for ABR's use.  The JCL will look something like
this:

// EXEC PGM=FDRABRM 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD  * 
ABRINIT CYCLE=cc,GEN=,RETPD=rr,VOL=vv,STORCLAS=ABRMODEL,
  ENABLE=(ARCHIVE,OLDBKUP),FORCE 
/*


Don't use these parameters!  Choose parameters that match the existing
SMS storage group that you are adding volumes to.  To inspect the ABR
model for an existing volume, code:

// EXEC PGM=FDRABRP
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSOUT   DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD  * 
P VOLSTAT,VOL=vv 
/* 

Absolutely correct.  Thanks, David.  The ABR Model DSCB (called a model 
because it occupies zero tracks) is required to run ABR functions on the 
volume.


Mike, if your installation has installed the ABR ISPF panels, you can 
also do this online.   Assuming that A on the main menu gets to the ABR 
dialogs,


A.I.8 

gets you to the volume management dialog.   Enter the volser of an 
existing volume in the storage group to display the values used. 
then enter an I in the CMD field to get a blank line and enter the 
volser of the new volume.  
Modify the values on the right of the screen to match those in the 
existing volume.
Then enter SUBMIT or EDIT on the command line to generate the batch job 
to initialize the new volume for ABR. 

Check your backup and/or archive JCL.  If you are selecting by storage 
group name, it will automaticaly pick up the new volume (after you 
update the group from teh ISMF panels).  If it is by volser, you may 
need to add the volume.


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STK SL8500 Libgen

2005-09-22 Thread Kreiter, Chuck
Anyone have an STK SL8500 LIBGEN they would be willing to share with me?
We are installing one and I'd like to check a working one against the
one I am creating. 

Thanks, 

Chuck Kreiter
Lead Systems Programmer
State Auto Insurance



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Remplacement of a Peer-to-Peer VTS...

2005-09-22 Thread CAPRON Romain
Hello,

 

I'm currently dealing with a big problem.

First I'm not a big specialist in zSeries tape storage management :-)

We currently have two sites with a distance about 300-400m.

They want move one of them away at ~60km linked with one DWDM fiber.

We are using a Peer-to-Peer VTS and it needs 8 ESCONs fibers between the
two rooms and it looks expensive...

So, my superiors want to suppress and replace it by a storage disk
solution.

Do serious solutions exist?

Can I keep the same quality of services that the P2P VTS was given to me
(with the AXs)...

 

Thanks a lot in advance for your help...

 

NB: Our composite library stores 3To of compressed data (the compression
ratio is between 3 and 6)

 

Sorry for my English mistakes...

 

Romain

 


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Re: URL for CICS TS 3.1 Internet Repository

2005-09-22 Thread McKown, John
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> My normal softcopy Internet URL doesn't have the CICS TS 3.1 books. I 
> found the CICS TS 3.1 library on the Internet -- which carries the 
> manuals in both BOOK and PDF form -- at 
> http://www.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/tserver/v31/library/, but I 
> *really* don't want to have to manually download and catalog 
> them all. 
> There are *lots* of BOOKs and PDFs!
> 
> Does anyone know a working URL that Softcopy Librarian can 
> use to obtain 
> CICS TS 3.1 BOOKs and PDFs from the Internet?
> 

Not exactly what you want, but you can do an ftp with an "mget" by going
to:

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/ts/cics/library/books/os390

These are PDF files. I could not find any BookManager files.

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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 9/22/2005 7:54:59 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

say 5  min slowdown caused by a few ASIDS running
paging off the charts, a few  days after the fact.  Does Candle Omegamon
epilog keep that kind of  detail?



>>
RMF will report at RMF interval. Candle has numerous knobs to
set. If you set them too close or too frequently you'll see
more CPU eaten up in the monitoring than in the programs. Most
of them are set in profiles for each classes of service. It may
be that spreading the spike over 15 minute interval would decrease
the big spikes.

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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Bob H
To all,

Thanks to all for good suggestions.  I'e been looking at this some more and
the fact is that we were getting "home grown" page rate alerts due to a
couple factors.
1) Automation kicks off a bunch of stuff at 0500, 0530, 0600.
2) Our enterprising automation guy added a pagerate probe that kicks off at
the same times.  It's not dynamic, just a snapshot he takes every 1/2
hour.  False positives.

Mark,
I took a look at RMF III and that report shows current aux store usage by
asid, but only goes back an hour or so.  I am still wondering the best way
for me to shoot a ... say 5 min slowdown caused by a few ASIDS running
paging off the charts, a few days after the fact.  Does Candle Omegamon
epilog keep that kind of detail?

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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Chris Hoelscher
> 
> I always thought it came first; then somebody said: ?So, what 
> do we make it stand for??.

when the TV show "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." first came out (1964?) - UNCLE 
did not stand for anything (it may have been inteded to be an acronym, but 
no specific words had been assigned)- only after public clamour did some 
marketing genius come up with "United Network Command for Law and 
Enforcement".

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Re: Article in Information week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted

2005-09-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 9/22/2005 4:32:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thank  you to all who replied. Just like Rex states we too didn't have the
money  for two systems so a parallel sysplex was out of the question.  Banks,
especially small ones, are notoriously cheap. We were lucky to have  what we
did have. Only because the bank wanted to continue to run  Alltel/Fidelity
banking software did we even get a mainframe. True, the  majority of
mainframes don't crash as much as the MP3000 we had. Heck  before we got
bought out our CIO was thinking of trying to get the MP3000  returned as a
lemon. 
Again thanks to all who replied.  



>>
Don't know if it's large enough, but maybe if you cut the numbers
real close it might be a fit and get you on a supported z/OS.
 
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Re: SMS add volume to storage group

2005-09-22 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 18:43 -0500, Mike Liberatore wrote:
> so I also need to allocate a FDR file(?) on these volume(s)

Look in the FDR/ABR books for program FDRABRM, which you can use to
produce a model DSCB for ABR's use.  The JCL will look something like
this:

// EXEC PGM=FDRABRM 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD  * 
 ABRINIT CYCLE=cc,GEN=,RETPD=rr,VOL=vv,STORCLAS=ABRMODEL,
   ENABLE=(ARCHIVE,OLDBKUP),FORCE 
/*

Don't use these parameters!  Choose parameters that match the existing
SMS storage group that you are adding volumes to.  To inspect the ABR
model for an existing volume, code:

// EXEC PGM=FDRABRP
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSOUT   DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD  * 
 P VOLSTAT,VOL=vv 
/* 

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Re: Short term paging spike

2005-09-22 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Bob,

Closing/Opening a bunch of files on CICS Region that has been relatively
dormant all night will bring this on. Some one else mentioned the Monday
Morning affect, and this is part of it - but every morning.

The Page-outs probably go unnoticed because they are spread over a longer
period of time, or after the first page-out they are unchanged pages and
move through a bit flick.

Ron

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> I am seeing short term paging spikes (zOS 1.4 system) at around 6am.  No
> dumps happening, just a rapid drop in AFQ and then a spike of 500 pages /
> sec... for a about 1 min.
> Can anyone recommend how to find out who the causer is?  Do SMF records
> capture this? The stuff I see doesn't have the granularity to find the
> culprit(s).
> 

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Re: COBOL Compiler Help

2005-09-22 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joe Zitzelberger
> 
> [ snip ]
> 
> Anyone that writes a 309k line module should be dipped in 
> honey and strung up over an ant hill next to the person at 
> Micro$oft that invented that damn paper-clip.

Wasn't that "Microsoft Bob"?  I hear he's the "star" of the Enzyte
commercials now.  :-D

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Re: Setting Completion Code in Batch?

2005-09-22 Thread Peter Relson
>(HLASM imposes a limit of 255 on return code.  Very
>stingy to save 3 bytes somewhere.)

Actually, it only (in a way) saves 4 bits somewhere.
Only the last 12 bits of the return value in register 15
appear to be used (they're certainly the only bits that
are presented in the standard system messages).

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Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-22 Thread Hall, Ken (GTI)
I suspect that's true of a lot of acronyms.

A long time ago, I worked on a very obscure minicomputer, and all of the 
utilities were named after the then-girlfriends of the developers.  The 
semantic contortions they used to turn those names into acronyms were really 
amusing.

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> 
> >I laughed at the people who
> pretended that it was better to have an acronym than have it mean
> "spool"
> ...
> 
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> do we make it stand for?”.
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Re: SMS add volume to storage group

2005-09-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:43:33 -0500, Mike Liberatore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Our storage administrator is out sick and I got the job of adding new
volumes to our active SMS environment. I guess someone knew  that had some
SMS expierence in the past. Anyway we share SMS across three LPARS ,I know I
have to define a VTOC, INDEX VTOC and since we run FDRABR so I also need to
allocate a FDR file(?) on these volume(s) that I will be adding. I haven't
done SMS administrative tasks in sometime. So I was wondering if someone
could share with me the steps required to add volume(s) to a SMS Storage
group Via ISMF and any other steps needed outside of ISMF. Can this process,
adding volumes to SMS, also be done in Batch. Thanks in advance!!


Unless you have ICKDSF R17, you must first vary the unit address offline to
all systems.  Then run ICKDSF to initialize the volumes, making sure you
create the VTOC index and specify the STORAGEGROUP parameter.  Then bring
the volumes online to all systems.

In ISMF, go to the Storage Groups section (option 6).  Enter the name of the
storage group and take option 4, Volume.  Once there, select option 2, and
enter the names of the volumes you just initialized.

After the volumes have been defined to the Storage Group, go back to the
ISMF main menu, and take option 8, Control Data Set.  Take option 5,
Activate.  Follow the instruction on the screen and hope you've got security
authorization correct.

That's it folks 

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Re: Article in Information week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted

2005-09-22 Thread Huckert, James
Thank you to all who replied. Just like Rex states we too didn't have the
money for two systems so a parallel sysplex was out of the question. Banks,
especially small ones, are notoriously cheap. We were lucky to have what we
did have. Only because the bank wanted to continue to run Alltel/Fidelity
banking software did we even get a mainframe. True, the majority of
mainframes don't crash as much as the MP3000 we had. Heck before we got
bought out our CIO was thinking of trying to get the MP3000 returned as a
lemon. 
Again thanks to all who replied. 
James H.

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Sorry, Ted, but I have to disagree with you on that second point (and
apparently in the case of the 7060 crashing on a regular basis, the
first as well).  Like the writer, we are running a 7060-H50
(uni-processor) and no money to be able to buy a "real" z-series box,
much less the money to invest in enough hardware to implement parallel
sysplex.  Granted, the only hardware related outage we've had over the
4+ years of our 7060 was with a third-party front-end communications
processor, but the fact is we are stuck on a single frame without enough
gas and/or hardware to implement a sysplex.  My guess is that there are
quite a few more sites out there like his and mine.

Rex


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Re: SUPERC Insights

2005-09-22 Thread Flint, Mike
Bill,

Here's my take on what you are after.

I have two files:

Old one
***
10 FRED 
20 JON  
30 SHEILA   
40 JUNE 
50 ALICE    

New one
*** (changes)
10 FRED 
20 JIM  < changes in cols 4-9 (a relevant change)
30 SHEILA   < changes in cols 12-20 (an irrelevant
change)
35 SHEILA   < a new record
40 JUNE   
< record '50 ALICE' deleted.

To follow your requirements, I want a report on any added or deleted
records, or any changed records in columns 4 to 9. I don't want any report
of lines changed in columns 12 to 20.

So, in this example, I want report of lines 20, 35, and 50.

I use 'Compare Type' = Line, and 'Listing Type' = Delta

My process statements are:

CMPCOLM 1:2  4:8

And this produces:

I - 20 JIM   
D - 20 JON   
   
I - 35 SHEILA   

D - 50 ALICE   


... is this what you are after?

You need to include (what you see as) your key columns in the comparison as
well. SuperC doesn't know that changes in this column are relevant unless
you tell it to. Specifying only cols 999:1005 means it will ignore changes
in any other columns - including your 'record key'. Adding this should fix
your problem, hopefully.

hth,
Mike Flint,
Systems Consultant,
Experian.

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Barry

Thanks for the reply.

You said, "Columns 999:1005 is length of seven, not the six you
specify."
Very true and this is what happens when I type without thinking.

Lets see if I can restate it better.
What I'm attempting to do is compare two files and;
  1) report any differences found within a certain column range and 
  2) any added or deleted records.

I have two test files I'm working with that have 20 records each. 
The files are exact until I made these changes to the one I'll call NEW
(Key is the first 9 digits of the record)
1)  record key 9 deleted from NEW
2)  record key 5 had data changed in cols 999-1004
3)  record key 2 also had data changed
4)  record key 99989 was ADDED to the NEW file
  
RESULTS
When I execute SUPERC with no process statements the output from SUPERC
seems as I would expect (run with Compare Type = FILE   Listing type =
Delta and NO process options)
  D - 9 3J90004514W5M38 3  ROGERS  


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UK GSE Conference, Stratford ------ Storage Stream Added ------ 4th & 5th October 2005 - UPDATED Storage Stream Agenda

2005-09-22 Thread Mark Wilson
This year's annual GSE conference, which includes streams on Large Systems,
Enterprise Security, Websphere MQ, IMS, DB2, CICS, Network Management and
Software Asset Management as well as several hands-on master classes, will
take place on Tuesday 4th & Wednesday 5th October 2005 at the Stratford upon
Avon Moat House Hotel in the UK.
 
The organising committee is pleased to announce the addition of a Storage
Management stream to the agenda. 

Full conference details of the conference can be found at:
 http://www.gse.org.uk/tyc/
 
The Storage Management stream agenda is as follows:
 

Session
Title
Abstract
Speaker

JB
The IBM TotalStorage Strategy
This session is an overview of IBM storage solutions for Infrastructure
Simplification, Business Continuity, and Information LifeCycle Management.
The primary emphasis is on zOS environments, but solutions for environments
of heterogeneous platforms will be included.  Topics include storage
consolidation, storage virtualization,  automated management,
high-availability, disaster recovery, and information lifecycle management.

Jeff Barckley

JC
IBM DS8000 Overview
The DS8000 family provides enterprise class feature and function in the
highest performance storage system available in the world today.   With a
pSeries heart, the DS8000 is able to take advantage of the performance and
expandability of the Power5 engine.  The utilization of the Power5 LPAR
capability opens up an entire new sphere of functions for a storage
controller.   The DS8000 can attach to all IBM eServers as well as most
competitive systems.  This session will cover the technology, capabilities
and features and functions of this enterprise class storage system. 
Curtis Neal

JD
Tape Market Update, and Preview of New IBM Tape Announcements
The Tape market continues to grow, and the latest market share numbers from
IDC show IBM as the industry leader. This  presentation will review the IBM
tape product portfolio behind this success, and update you on this year's
announcements so far: LTO3, dual robotics and zOS/VTS support for the IBM
3584 Ultrascalable Library, and improved Virtual Tape Server functionality.
It will also preview the exciting IBM tape announcements planned for 4Q
2005, which include the next generation IBM 3592 Enterprise Tape Drive, and
Virtual Tape for Open Systems.
Peter McNamara

JE
Enhance the Value of your Virtual Tape Library with Productivity and
Disaster Recovery Procedures
This presentation covers utilities that eliminate 'recall wait delays' for
production jobs that need datasets migrated to back end tapes of Virtual
Tape Libraries (VTL).  Also covered are disaster recovery utilities that
allow users to maximize their return on investment in their VTL.   Virtual
Data Recovery allows users to direct vault bound tape data into the VTL and
then automatically creates duplicate copies and stacks them on native high
density cartridges which reduce the number of native tape drives and media
for DR.  Also discussed are solutions to reduce vaulted media for full
volume and incremental backups for disaster recovery.
Michael Weintraub of Open Tech Systems 

 
 
 
 

JF
Managing Storage with the IBM TotalStorage Productivity Center (TPC)
Management of traditional and virtualized Storage environments has become an
extremely complex task.   Attend this session and learn how the IBM
TotalStorage Productivity Center helps reduce the effort of managing complex
infrastructures.  In this session, we will cover the basics of disk
management, SAN management, data management and replication management.
Scott Drummond

JG
IBM Business Continuance Solutions
In this session we will review the three main aspects of business
continuance: high-availability, continuous operations, and disaster
recovery.   50% of this session  will be spent discussing IBM technologies
and products that provide solution capabilities, and 50% of of the time will
be spent discussing best-practices, rules-of-thumb in solution design,
common tradeoffs between business objectives and cost objectives, and
commmon mistakes that are made in planning disaster recovery strategies. 
Jeff Barckley

JH
IBM DS6000 Overview
The DS6000 provides enterprise class feature and function in a mid-tier
sized storage system.  Holding almost five terabytes of disk in a 3U rack
mounted package, with expansion capabilities to near 70 terabytes while
providing enterprise class feature and function, the DS6000 fills a wide
range of needs.  In addition to the abilitity to attach to all IBM eServer
platforms, it can also be connected to a wide range of non-IBM servers.
This session will cover the technology, capabilities and features and
functions of this enterprise class storage system. 
Curtis Neal

JJ
What's New in SAN Hardware and Management
In this session we will review the IBM SAN Portfolio offerings - low end
switches, midrange switches and high end directors.  We will also look at
SAN to SAN interconnectivity op