Re: Automatic LRECL in JCL

2007-10-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
 [snip]. I think that all
high level languages do the same.

And even your low level language programs, such as High Level Assembler
;-)
would not normally require RECFM and LRECL in JCL. The program is coded
to
handle records of specific format and length, so RECFM and LRECL are
coded
in the DCB. Exceptions are, of course, programs flexible enough to
handle
various formats and lengths.

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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
After a successful GETMAIN request, I will get a virtual storage area
to
Is that area supported by either real storage or auxiliary storage as
soon as the GETMAIN completes?

This is where PIC 10/11 enter the scene: You got your virtual storage
but 
it is not yet associated with any real storage. When your code
references
any address in that range for the first time, DAT will fail to translate
the virtual address and will signal a PIC 10 or 11 (as explained in my 
previous post). z/OS gets control, validates your request using the VSM
control blocks, and if it is valid (i.e. your trying to access GETMAINed
storage), a real storage frame will be assigned, your instruction is 
repeated and will succeed. (No auxiliary storage involved so far.)

1. I once read in the list that 'if you GETMAIN a two large area and as
soon
as you begin to access it, it will cause a heavy usage of auxiliary
storage.'

Auxiliary storage is only used when the real storage is not large 
enough to handle all request from running code.

The real storage manager (RSM) tries to keep a certain amount of
real frames available to respond to requests for a real frame (e.g.
to fulfill first time reference requests as described above).

If the stock of available frame drops below a certain level, RSM
tries to refill it. It will ask the auxiliary storage manager (ASM) 
to copy the least recently used frames to auxiliary storage slots 
(i.e. copy the 4KB of data to a page data set), RSM can then put 
these real storage frames onto the available frame queue. 

The page table entry has to be updated correspondingly, so that 
DAT will fail translating any address in those 4KB ranges, should
some code reference that storage at a later time. When this happens,
a PIC 11 will result but this time z/OS will not assign a new
frame but will recognize the data is out on the page data set.
ASM is asked to read the data back into a real storage frame
and RSM updates the page table, and finally re-drives the failing
instruction.

So, you statement is true *if* your program is accessing all of that
large area (or at least a single byte every 4KB) *and* RSM does not 
have enough real storage available. RSM and ASM will be busy to 
replenish the available frame queue to make frames available for
your program. In today's systems this is much less likely, since
there is much more real storage in the machines than a decade ago. 


-unsnip-
No. ASM and RSM will work together to provide storage on a 
page-by-page basis as you use it, based on the contents of the VSM 
control blocks that describe the storage. If and when you exceed
the boundaries described by the VSM blocks, you'll get ABENDed.
-snip-

To be precise here: You'll get an abend only if you're accessing
an address in a 4KB area where nothing has been GETMAINed at all.

Even if you GETMAIN only 400 bytes, the system will still allocate
4KB of real storage once you access any byte in the GETMAINed area.
If you reference any address outside the 400 byte area but still within
the same 4KB range, you will not notice that. Well, your program
reads invalid data or overwrites some storage unintentionally and
some code may abend but its not the system abending your code
because of referencing invalid (i.e. non-GETMAINed) storage).


2. There is an example in an assembler language book which is about the
usage of PGRLSE: Release the area GETMAINed using PGRLSE and then you
can
still access it.

As might be clear now, PGRLSE asks RSM to disassociate the real frame
from the given virtual address. VSM is not involved, so the area
is still GETMAINed and the next reference is a first time reference,
so a new frame will be associated again.


How will the OS handle it? If the area has been GETMAINed, OS will
allocate
it in the unit of segment: back it up using either real or auxiliary
storage. 

Storage management is done in 4KB units (aka pages). A segment is 1MB.


So GETMAIN/FREEMAIN has no direct relation to virtual storage backing
up:
when you GETMAIN, it doesn't mean OS will try to back up that area and
FREEMAIN doesn't mean that area will be released like what PGRLSE does.

While GETMAIN does not immediately associate real storage, FREEMAIN
does disassociate and free any associated real storage and all slots
on page data sets if any of the pages have been paged out.

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Duplicate Dataset Entries with wildcards

2007-10-05 Thread Varun Manocha
Greetings,

One of the user's have reported me an issue regarding duplicate entries 
for a particular dataset on the same volume. While I can try and fix the 
issue (by un-cataloguing/cataloguing the dataset), I cant really 
understand how the two entries would be displayed in the first place.

The problem is :

If we use a wildcard character in the name of the dataset on 3.4 panel 
(like XYZ*ABC.DATASET), we see two entries for the same dataset on the 
same volume. However, if we specify the complete dataset name, as in, 
XYZ$ABC.DATASET, only one entry is being is being displayed.

Both the entries are in the same user catalog. This is a non-sms managed 
1.4 system.

Thanks,
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Re: IBMLink is UP - just kidding

2007-10-05 Thread Chris Mason

Shane

That'll be because, where you come from, Eastern Time, or Pacific, or 
Mountain would all be the same, I expect!


Chris Mason

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On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 16:15 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:


Just say Eastern Time, or Pacific, or Mountain...
It's just as accurate and you don't have to worry about confusing people.


Wanna bet ???.

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Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Jacky Bright
Hi,

I am using shared processor across LPARS. I need to restrict my one LPAR to
200 MIPS only so that it can not consume more than 200 mips. I am also using
Coupling Facility.

How can I achieve that ? What Initial Weight I need to assign in the Change
Logical LPAR controls panel ?

Can I change it dynamically ?



JAcky

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VTS Issue

2007-10-05 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We have the VTS in place and the latest microcodes on it but seem to be 
having a controller problem. We can only get one controller online, and none 
after that. We'd like to have 64 drives in it, but can't get beyond 16. We are 
designating the units as 3490 which limiits us to 16 per controller. IBM H/W 
and S/W both said to check are the logical address (CUADD) and the libport-
ID in the HCD. However, they said we have them set up properly. Any other 
suggestions are gratefully accepted. Oh, the model is  B18 if that has any 
bearing.

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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Dave Thorn
1.  You need to cap the LPAR at the 200 MIP level.  (on the panel I
believe it's a check box under Initial Capping)  If you have 2 LPARs
on a 1000 MIP machine, for example, and all CPs are shared, you could
weight the capped LPAR at 20 and the other at 80.   (20/100=.2,
.2*1000=200)  
2.  Yes, it can be changed dynamically.

This is a simple explanation...apply it carefully to your environment!

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Subject: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

Hi,

I am using shared processor across LPARS. I need to restrict my one LPAR
to
200 MIPS only so that it can not consume more than 200 mips. I am also
using
Coupling Facility.

How can I achieve that ? What Initial Weight I need to assign in the
Change
Logical LPAR controls panel ?

Can I change it dynamically ?



JAcky

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Setting Weights on LPARs

2007-10-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
 

I am trying to understand how weights work with LPARs.

 

We have 1 z890 with 2 LPARS (prod and test)

 

We set the weights to 65/35 for Prod vs. Test

 

Our DBAs said to raise it to 75/25 so that PROD would get more steam.  We
only have 3 engines

 

They said when we did that it got better.

 

Does changing the weights from 65/35 to 75/25 in favor of PROD actually make
that much difference?  This is not a hard cap.  We are using the HMC to set
this up.

 

 

I have a couple of performance papers I have been reading (z9 Performance
Tuning Redbook).  However, I am not seeing how this is significant.

 

Our TEST LPAR has the basic DB2, testing, verification, Qual check out and
major TSO and application development workload.

 

Our PROD LPAR has just the production work for DB2.

 

We know our real memory is tight so we added a little more to it this
weekend.  Our DB2 environment in PROD is Data Sharing.  Therefore, there is
another physical CPU (z9) with 3 LPARs (PROD, TEST, and SYSPROG)

 

The two PROD boxes each have Data Sharing members on them for our 2
Production DB2s.

 

We share dasd between all 5 LPARs.

 

  

Hypothesis:  If I reset the weights on my 2 LPAR box to 60/40  or 75/25 what
would I see.  What reports would help me see if this is doing any good?  I
have MXG and SAS.  I can also run RMFPP.  I have not really gotten into
performance tuning on this level so I need to try and find the reports that
will help me understand this picture better.

 

Thanks

Lizette


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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Dave Thorn
Correct.  I was just using the environment presented and assuming all
LPARs were IPLed.  But if the smaller LPAR is capped I don't think it
will exceed the cap, regardless of what else is going on.

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Relative weight LPAR sizing is subject to the mix of LPARs that are
active at any given point in time.  In your example, if the LPAR whose
weight is 80 is not IPL'd then the LPAR with weight=20 will get 100% of
the processor (1000 MIPS in your numerical example) without changing the
weight numbers.  This is a far cry from the 200 MIP target.  I believe
that the calculation is:
  
  ((LPAR weight)/SUM(all _active_ LPAR weights))*(CEC capacity)

Again, assuming that initial capping is activated.


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Re: Duplicate Dataset Entries with wildcards

2007-10-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Look for the dataset to be cataloged in 2 different user catalogs
This must be done by a LISTCAT for each individual usercatalog.
ISPF 3.4 cannot do this. It must be IDCAMS LISTCAT.

Try LISTCAT ENT('your.dataset.name') ALL CAT('your.usercatalog.here') 
either online or in batch. 

*ONCE FOR EACH USERCATALOG/MASTERCATALOG IN YOUR SHOP*

HTH,

snip
One of the user's have reported me an issue regarding duplicate entries 
for a particular dataset on the same volume. While I can try and fix the

issue (by un-cataloguing/cataloguing the dataset), I cant really 
understand how the two entries would be displayed in the first place.

The problem is :

If we use a wildcard character in the name of the dataset on 3.4 panel 
(like XYZ*ABC.DATASET), we see two entries for the same dataset on the 
same volume. However, if we specify the complete dataset name, as in, 
XYZ$ABC.DATASET, only one entry is being is being displayed.

Both the entries are in the same user catalog. This is a non-sms managed

1.4 system.
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Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-05 Thread Kelman, Tom
 Posted by Ed Gould:

 My experience with Kommand is rather dated. But when I knew it it was
 nothing more than one or two smf exits and a few cobol programs which
 seem to blow up about weekly. At the time it had no DASD space
 accounting.
 
 

Ed:
 
Admittedly my experience with Kommand is dated also.  It's about 6 years
old.  However, when I worked for a company that used it, the product had
an SVC with it.  This SVC trapped every request that would cause a
change in a dataset's size such as new allocation, deletion, and space
extension or release.  It would then cut an SMF record indicating what
was done and the amount of DASD space involved.  When you first
installed the product you would run a utility that cut the initial SMF
records showing all the space allocated by datasets at that point in
time.  After that you just kept track of the changes based on the SMF
records.  I felt it worked fairly well.

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Hipersockets performance

2007-10-05 Thread George Soley
We've been testing a hipersockets connection between z/OS V1R7 and linux
partitions.  After following the setup steps in the Hipersockets Red Book
transmit speeds using ftp or scp have been disappointing.  Either our
testing process is incorrect or the configuration is wrong.  Does anyone
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Re: Setting Weights on LPARs

2007-10-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:40:37 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


We have 1 z890 with 2 LPARS (prod and test)
We set the weights to 65/35 for Prod vs. Test
Our DBAs said to raise it to 75/25 so that PROD would get more steam.  We
only have 3 engines
They said when we did that it got better.

Does changing the weights from 65/35 to 75/25 in favor of PROD actually make
that much difference?  This is not a hard cap.  We are using the HMC to set
this up.



Of course it can... if the box is running at or near capacity.  It also depends
how much CPU queuing was going on.  A little extra could get you over
the hump.  

How many engines on test? If only 1, then anything over 33 could not be
achieved anyway.  

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3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread McKown, John
I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got a new Mac
Mini and put it on my LAN at home. I use x3270 on Linux, but don't like
it very much compared to Hummingbird on Windows. I know that I can use
x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm wondering if there are any Mac native
(Aqua) 3270 emulators out there? I have done a Google search and have
come up empty (lots of useless hits).

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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Conmackie, Mike
Dave Thorn wrote:

snip
Correct.  I was just using the environment presented and assuming all
LPARs were IPLed.  But if the smaller LPAR is capped I don't think it
will exceed the cap, regardless of what else is going on.
/snip

Yes, the cap will be enforced as intended as long as both LPARs are
active.  I was attempting to illustrate the perils of this style of
capping in a dynamic environment.


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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Conmackie, Mike
Dave Thorn wrote:

snip
1.  You need to cap the LPAR at the 200 MIP level.  (on the panel I
believe it's a check box under Initial Capping)  If you have 2 LPARs
on a 1000 MIP machine, for example, and all CPs are shared, you could
weight the capped LPAR at 20 and the other at 80.   (20/100=.2,
.2*1000=200)
/snip

Relative weight LPAR sizing is subject to the mix of LPARs that are
active at any given point in time.  In your example, if the LPAR whose
weight is 80 is not IPL'd then the LPAR with weight=20 will get 100% of
the processor (1000 MIPS in your numerical example) without changing the
weight numbers.  This is a far cry from the 200 MIP target.  I believe
that the calculation is:
  
  ((LPAR weight)/SUM(all _active_ LPAR weights))*(CEC capacity)

Again, assuming that initial capping is activated.


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Re: Setting Weights on LPARs

2007-10-05 Thread Joel Wolpert
The weights only take effect when the machine is at 100%. You should check
the CPU utilization of the machine and the lpar in RMF. If the machine is
at 100% and the lpar is at 100% than this most probably did help out.

Lizette said:

I am trying to understand how weights work with LPARs.



We have 1 z890 with 2 LPARS (prod and test)



We set the weights to 65/35 for Prod vs. Test



Our DBAs said to raise it to 75/25 so that PROD would get more steam.  We
only have 3 engines



They said when we did that it got better.



Does changing the weights from 65/35 to 75/25 in favor of PROD actually
make
that much difference?  This is not a hard cap.  We are using the HMC to set
this up.





I have a couple of performance papers I have been reading (z9 Performance
Tuning Redbook).  However, I am not seeing how this is significant.



Our TEST LPAR has the basic DB2, testing, verification, Qual check out and
major TSO and application development workload.



Our PROD LPAR has just the production work for DB2.



We know our real memory is tight so we added a little more to it this
weekend.  Our DB2 environment in PROD is Data Sharing.  Therefore, there is
another physical CPU (z9) with 3 LPARs (PROD, TEST, and SYSPROG)



The two PROD boxes each have Data Sharing members on them for our 2
Production DB2s.



We share dasd between all 5 LPARs.





Hypothesis:  If I reset the weights on my 2 LPAR box to 60/40  or 75/25
what
would I see.  What reports would help me see if this is doing any good?  I
have MXG and SAS.  I can also run RMFPP.  I have not really gotten into
performance tuning on this level so I need to try and find the reports that
will help me understand this picture better.



Thanks

Lizette



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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Johnny Luo
On 10/4/07, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

 PIC 11 means DAT finds an invalid pointer to a real frame associated
 with the virtual address being translated. This means, there is
 currently no real frame assigned.


But it can still be divided into two situations:

1. No real frame, no auxiliary slot

2. No real frame but has auxiliary slot assigned.

I believe the handling for these two cases will not be the same.


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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Johnny Luo
I know that course. I borrowed the hard copy textbook of it from one friend
last year.

Textbook is excellent but in my opinion, it's too slim compared to the
topics it wants to cover.


On 10/4/07, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Does the 2 week internal course still exist?

 The course basically still exists, although some topics might no longer
 be discussed in the level of detail is used to be.
 (Note, however, I've been out of the IBM education business for some
 years now, so I do not exactly know the current content.)

 See below for a description:

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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread Steve Flynn
On 05/10/2007, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got a new Mac
 Mini and put it on my LAN at home. I use x3270 on Linux, but don't like
 it very much compared to Hummingbird on Windows. I know that I can use
 x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm wondering if there are any Mac native
 (Aqua) 3270 emulators out there? I have done a Google search and have
 come up empty (lots of useless hits).


Tried http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/CIS/tn3270/ ?


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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread Johnny Luo
John,

I found this link:

http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/CIS/tn3270/index.html




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 I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got a new Mac
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 x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm wondering if there are any Mac native
 (Aqua) 3270 emulators out there? I have done a Google search and have
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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread John P Kalinich
John McKown of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 10/05/2007 08:19:32 AM:

 I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got a new Mac
 Mini and put it on my LAN at home. I use x3270 on Linux, but don't like
 it very much compared to Hummingbird on Windows. I know that I can use
 x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm wondering if there are any Mac native
 (Aqua) 3270 emulators out there? I have done a Google search and have
 come up empty (lots of useless hits).


Brown University has a tn3270 emulator for the Mac.

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Re: Duplicate Dataset Entries with wildcards

2007-10-05 Thread Varun Manocha
Thanks Allan, That was it. The dataset was also catalogued in another 
usercat. 

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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Joel Wolpert
What type of mainframe are you running?

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I am using shared processor across LPARS. I need to restrict my one LPAR to
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Coupling Facility.

How can I achieve that ? What Initial Weight I need to assign in the Change
Logical LPAR controls panel ?

Can I change it dynamically ?



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Re: Setting Weights on LPARs

2007-10-05 Thread Dave Thorn
Changing the weight from 65 to 75 (in your particular environment)
increased the available MIPS to the PROD LPAR by 15%:  (75-65)/65=15.3%

Another simple example:  if you have 1000 MIPS, your Prod LPAR went from
650 to 750 MIPS, which is not an insignificant change.  Conversely, the
test LPAR went from 350 to 250 MIPS.

If you are not capping, both LPARs have access to MIPS that the other
LPAR is not using.  The weights come into play when things get busy.

You can measure this by comparing things like TSO performance, batch
turnaround times, online response time, and by how loud the complaints
are (if any).  MXG will give you info on all of that except for the
complaints.  For those you're on your own.

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Hypothesis:  If I reset the weights on my 2 LPAR box to 60/40  or 75/25
what
would I see.  What reports would help me see if this is doing any good?
I
have MXG and SAS.  I can also run RMFPP.  I have not really gotten into
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Re: Hipersockets performance

2007-10-05 Thread Mark L. Wheeler
George,

FTP is going to be limitted by the speed of your disk. SCP, unless you have
crypto hardware, is likely going to be limitted by CPU. I've FTP'd between
Linux virtual machines over a real hipersocket on single-IFL z9-109 at over
200 megabytes per second.

Just a note that FTP get is MUCH faster then FTP put.

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transmit speeds using ftp or scp have been disappointing.  Either our
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Re: System REXX for z/OS R8 Web Deliverable - Fixed!

2007-10-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:27:27 -0700, Edward Jaffe
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Bohn, Dale wrote:
 OA22774 has been opened to address the missing proc.


Bad IFREQs! Missing PROCs! (What's next?) Obviously, the System REXX
install was never fully tested.


I wasn't going to say it... but now that you did, I will certainly agree. 
It's nice that it's available for z/OS 1.8 but...

The missing PROC I can see slipping by even if someone actually 
tried installing the function.  But there is really no excuse for the
original packaging problem.  Fully tested - impossible since it
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Re: Duplicate Dataset Entries with wildcards

2007-10-05 Thread Gates, Guy
 Does this Dataset have an Alias assigned to it? I used to work at a
shop that used a lot of Dataset Aliases and when we did a 3.4 List we
got two entries, One for the Alias and One for the Real Dataset. I don't
remember if there was an option to suppress listing two entries, but I
think there was.

Thanks...Guy M. Gates Jr.
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One of the user's have reported me an issue regarding duplicate entries 
for a particular dataset on the same volume. While I can try and fix the
issue (by un-cataloguing/cataloguing the dataset), I cant really 
understand how the two entries would be displayed in the first place.

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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Johnny Luo
On 10/5/07, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Storage management is done in 4KB units (aka pages). A segment is 1MB.




I got this from Carmine's book and it might be wrong.



 While GETMAIN does not immediately associate real storage, FREEMAIN
 does disassociate and free any associated real storage and all slots
 on page data sets if any of the pages have been paged out.



I guess only those complete pages will be released?  Like what PGRLSE does.

I used to think that VSM will defer the 'release' of the FREEMAINed area so
it can re-use the same area to satisfy subsequent GETMAINs.  Just my
imagination :)


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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
While GETMAIN does not immediately associate real storage, FREEMAIN
does disassociate and free any associated real storage and all slots
on page data sets if any of the pages have been paged out.

I guess only those complete pages will be released?  
Like what PGRLSE does.

My fault. This was not precise enough. You are correct in that only
completely free pages will be released.


I used to think that VSM will defer the 'release' of the FREEMAINed 
area so it can re-use the same area to satisfy subsequent GETMAINs.  
Just my imagination :)

Ok, I thought I'll have to dig into a bit more sooner or later.

VSM manages virtual storage in 8 byte units, i.e. GETMAIN and FREEMAIN
are done in 8 byte increments. When you request some x bytes storage, 
GETMAIN will round up to the next 8 byte boundary, say x+. It will when 
search its inventory of allocated, i.e. GETMAINed storage to see
if there is a 4KB area (a page) where not all of the 4KB are allocated.
If it finds one and the free area within that page is at least x+ bytes,
then it will use that page and assign that address to your request.
If it does not find a free area large enough, it will look for the next
4KB are (page) of unallocate storage, allocate your x+ bytes from it
and puts the remaing bytes on the free bytes list.

If you later FREEMAIN those x bytes, FREEMAIN will round up so the x 
becomes x+ again. It will but those x+ bytes to the free bytes list,
so that storage could be used for another GETMAIN request *unless*
these were the last allocated bytes in the whole page (4KB). If the 
latter was the case FREEMAIN will release the real/aux storagea and
put the page back on the unallocated storage list.


This mechanism of sharing a single page for multiple GETMAIN request
is the reason you may or may not abend with a S0C4 if you try to 
access storage that you did not GETMAIN. You might end up accessing
some bytes within the same 4KB area as your allocated storage. That's
the bad situation, your program does not immediately abend but might
behave strangely late on. Storage overlays are very difficult to 
debug in some sitiations.


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problem with automatic handling of message IEC534D

2007-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi listers,

I have a customer who has no tape management system. He preloads 6 tapes 
on his 3590 loader. The first backup job runs normally and uses 2 tapes. 
The third tape is for possible data growth. Now the second job starts, 
but because there is currently the third tape mounted, which is wrong 
for the second job it issues the message IEC534D twice, once as WTO and 
afterwards as WTOR. The MPFXTALL erroneously replies M only to the WTO 
and the job stops with the WTOR. The fourth tape would be the correct 
one for the second job. Is there a way to solve it with out rexx 
programming, so that the wrong tape unloads and the correct tape is 
loaded. Here is the job log.


23.44.57 JOB07227  THURSDAY,  04 OCT 2007 
 
23.44.57 JOB07227  IRR010I  USERID SYSADM   IS ASSIGNED TO THIS 
JOB.   
23.44.57 JOB07227  ICH70001I SYSADM   LAST ACCESS AT 23:44:10 ON 
THURSDAY, OCTOB
23.44.57 JOB07227  $HASP373 SAPQSAV1 STARTED - INIT 3- CLASS A - SYS 
MVS1  
23.44.57 JOB07227  IEF403I SAPQSAV1 - STARTED - 
TIME=23.44.57  
23.44.57 JOB07227 *IEF233A M 
0400,QASJ01,,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1,BKSAPQ.SAVE1.DSS.G0003V
00.05.44 JOB07227  FRIDAY,05 OCT 2007 
 
00.05.44 JOB07227  IEC512I LBL ERR 
0400,PRDI03,SL,QASJ01,SL,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1,BKSAP
00.05.44 JOB07227 *MPF012E - MESSAGE IS A WTO NOT A WTOR REPLY NOT 
ISSUED  
00.05.44 JOB07227 *MPF008E - NOTIFY SYSTEMS 
PROGRAMMER 
00.05.44 JOB07227 *IEC534D A 
0400,PRDI03,SL,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1 
00.05.44 JOB07227  REPLY   
,M  
00.05.44 JOB07227 *101 IEC534D REPLY 'U'-USE OR 
'M'-UNLOAD 


Thanks in advance for any hints.

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Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-05 Thread Ed Gould

On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Kelman, Tom wrote:

Ed:

Admittedly my experience with Kommand is dated also.  It's about 6  
years
old.  However, when I worked for a company that used it, the  
product had

an SVC with it.  This SVC trapped every request that would cause a
change in a dataset's size such as new allocation, deletion, and space
extension or release.  It would then cut an SMF record indicating what
was done and the amount of DASD space involved.  When you first
installed the product you would run a utility that cut the initial SMF
records showing all the space allocated by datasets at that point in
time.  After that you just kept track of the changes based on the SMF
records.  I felt it worked fairly well.

Tom Kelman



Tom:

Interesting addition it has made, thanks for the update. How has your  
experience shown about abends in the regular reporting process?
I got tired of debugging their COBOL programs. The only positive  
thing I can say about the package is that their IEFACTATRT was   
attractive in the output as it was easy to understand and the users  
liked it.


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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread McKown, John
Thanks to all for the pointer to Brown university. I went there and
downloaded the dmg file. It does really say whether this is a Aqua
(native) or X version, but I'll give it a try.

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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
But it can still be divided into two situations:
1. No real frame, no auxiliary slot
2. No real frame but has auxiliary slot assigned.

Right. If the request is valid, i.e. VSM says the storage
is allocated case 1.) means this is a first time reference.
Case 2.) means the real fram has been stolen and the 
content of the page moved to the aux slot.

In case 1.) RSM does not involve ASM and simply assigns
one of the availabel frames. In case 2.) RSM selects an
available frame and asks ASM to read the page from the
slot into the specifed frame, therafter, the virtual
storage is associated with the frame.

Note that the slot is not freed, since RSM might decide
to steal that same frame again. If the content has not
changed since, the content of the slot is still valid
and the physical movement can be avoided.


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IBM Tivoli License Compliance Manager for z/OS

2007-10-05 Thread Bill Johnson
We are doing some initial information gathering on IBM's Tivoli License 
Compliance Manager for z/OS and was looking for any recommendations and/or 
feedback from shops that might be using it currently. Is it doing what it 
claims and how happy are you with it?
   
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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread Bill Hecox
I remember something about MacKermit having 3270 emulation
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 I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got a new Mac
 Mini and put it on my LAN at home. I use x3270 on Linux, but don't like
 it very much compared to Hummingbird on Windows. I know that I can use
 x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm wondering if there are any Mac native
 (Aqua) 3270 emulators out there? I have done a Google search and have
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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread Roger Bowler
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:19:32 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got a new Mac
Mini and put it on my LAN at home. I use x3270 on Linux, but don't like
it very much compared to Hummingbird on Windows. I know that I can use
x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm wondering if there are any Mac native
(Aqua) 3270 emulators out there?

John,

In addition to the three votes so far for Brown University, it's also worth
noting that it's the recommended Mac tn3270 client for Hercules[1]. 

For reference, the other recommended clients for Hercules are x3270 (for
Unix), and Tom Brennan's Vista tn3270 (for Windows)[2].

Regards,
Roger Bowler
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[1] See http://www.hercules-390.org/hercfaq.html#3.03 for more details.

[2] Incidentally, if there was any justice in the world then Tom ought to be
able to win a trademark infringement suit against Microsoft for
misappropriation of the name Vista. But I don't believe things tend to
work out like that in practice :-(

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Re: IBMLink is UP - just kidding

2007-10-05 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 Oct 2007 14:14:26 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane) wrote:

 Just say Eastern Time, or Pacific, or Mountain...
 It's just as accurate and you don't have to worry about confusing people.

Wanna bet ???.

Shane ...

Especially if you are in Arizona in the summer, one of the few places
that doesn't believe we save time by changing our clocks.

Maybe we should go on ESPN time...

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IXC454I messages

2007-10-05 Thread Chris Burgess
I have trying to research the cause of IXC454I messages when we IPL and 
have come up empty. We have a test environment where we bring up one 
LPAR (to initialize the Sysplex) and when complete, we bring up 15 more in one 
shot. A few will come up completely and others get IXC454I messages. We are 
running a z/9 BC with 4 CP's and one SAP. The CF is internal and we are using 
IC's and a list structure for communications. The LPARs are a mixture of z/OS 
1.6-1.9. We tried increasing the IC's to 8 and the results were the same. We 
have another z/9 BC that has 4 CP's, 1 ICF and 2 SAPs. We see the same 
issues there. Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread Mark Vitale
Others have mentioned the web site for the Brown tn3270 emulator.
I use this program frequently on my Mac.  It is OSX-native and it works
fine,
even with custom screen sizes, but it does have some rough edges and
bugs.
There are a few commercial offerings for the Mac as well, but I have not

tried them.


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 I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got 
 a new Mac Mini and put it on my LAN at home. I use x3270 on 
 Linux, but don't like it very much compared to Hummingbird on 
 Windows. I know that I can use x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm 
 wondering if there are any Mac native
 (Aqua) 3270 emulators out there? I have done a Google search 
 and have come up empty (lots of useless hits).


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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Ken Porowski
Another possibility is to use WLM defined capacity.  Set the MSU's to
the equivalent of 200 MIPs (30-32 MSUs depending on the conversion
factor) and set the LPAR to WLM managed.  It will be able to get more
than the specified limit but the 4 hour rolling average will not exceed
the limit. 

-Original Message-
Dave Thorn

1.  You need to cap the LPAR at the 200 MIP level.  (on the panel I
believe it's a check box under Initial Capping)  If you have 2 LPARs
on a 1000 MIP machine, for example, and all CPs are shared, you could
weight the capped LPAR at 20 and the other at 80.   (20/100=.2,
.2*1000=200)
2.  Yes, it can be changed dynamically.

This is a simple explanation...apply it carefully to your environment!

Dave Thorn * Senior Technology Analyst * SunGard Computer Services * 600
Laurel Oak Road, Voorhees, NJ, 

-Original Message-
Jacky Bright

Hi,

I am using shared processor across LPARS. I need to restrict my one LPAR
to 200 MIPS only so that it can not consume more than 200 mips. I am
also using Coupling Facility.

How can I achieve that ? What Initial Weight I need to assign in the
Change Logical LPAR controls panel ?

Can I change it dynamically ?

JAcky

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Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Edward Jaffe

Howard Brazee wrote:

Especially if you are in Arizona in the summer, one of the few places
that doesn't believe we save time by changing our clocks.
  


Of course, Shane was referring to the fact that he lives in Australia. 
Eastern Time for them is not the same as Eastern Time in the United States.


When I was a kid, we had one analog clock on the mantle above the 
fireplace in the living room. Twice a year, my Dad would walk up to the 
clock and, in a process that took all of about two seconds, spin the 
minute hand on the clock once in the proper direction and walk away ... 
done!


Now, I have a clock in every room, in every car, on numerous kitchen 
appliances (oven, microwave, coffee maker, refrigerator, etc.), on 
telephones, answering machines, radios, TVs, fax machines, etc. I even 
have a clock on my shaver!


In my house, switching to/from Daylight Time has become an unbelievable 
twice-a-year hassle. Some clocks, e.g. on my fax machine, never get 
reset because I can't remember how to do it without digging out the 
manual. Life's too short!


IMHO, we should either a) make all time-telling devices adjust 
themselves automatically -- with some way to keep up with the local 
policy changes that will inevitably occur from time-to-time -- like 
mainframes do when synchronized with an ETR (notice the on-topic 
reference!) -- or b) just *permanently * set the time half-way between 
Standard and Daylight Time and call it even!


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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread Schramm, Rob
John,

You might try focusing on JAVA based tn3270 emulators.  There are a ton
of hits. 

-Rob Schramm

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Re: System REXX for z/OS R8 Web Deliverable - Fixed!

2007-10-05 Thread Marna WALLE
Hello,
Yes, the SAXREXEC isn't installed into by the System REXX Web deliverable
FMID HBB77SR, however, we do reserve the right in the future to ship a PTF
to HBB77SR that *does* use this data set.  (I'm aware that the current level
of the Web deliverable program directory says it used 16 tracks for
SAXREXEC.)  By allocating the data set with the Web deliverable, we
positioned ourselves to have the ability to install into it with a future
PTF, as well as provide the data set necessary for user-provided System REXX
EXECs.

If I could lightly touch on the never fully tested comment...  Although
it's clear that more installation testing should have been performed on this
Web deliverable, it *was* installation tested and *was* successfully APPLYed
multiple times. (It just so happened that all those test environments had
the JPN FMID JBB773J installed - remember, we support users world-wide and
test with languages other than US English.)

We are doing an analysis on each problem this Web deliverable has
encountered, have identified where in the process that it occurred, how it
could have been prevented, and how to verify it won't happen in the next Web
deliverable.  

I hope this can give you some confidence that these problems are getting the
right attention here.

-Marna WALLE
z/OS System Build and Install
IBM Poughkeepsie

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no mail

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Re: VTS Issue

2007-10-05 Thread Patrick . Falcone
You should be able to get at least 32 virtuals online. We are currently 
running a way back leveled B18 with LM 531.11B and VTS 2.23.38.05 w/FP11 
and have 32 virtual drives on 2 logical controllers. Our TVC is 72 GB and 
so our FC is less than what would be required to run 64 virtuals. I'm not 
certain of the FC needed to run 64 virtuals but that may be above FC 3400 
which is where we are.  Our B18 is actually so old that it did not come 
with EHPO and we had IBM put it on at a later date. This thing could go 
right to the museum after we're done here end of November. I've ranted on 
the B18 in the past as we've had our share of problems, some 
self-inflicted.

Curious, do you know the size of the TVC?




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We have the VTS in place and the latest microcodes on it but seem to be 
having a controller problem. We can only get one controller online, and 
none 
after that. We'd like to have 64 drives in it, but can't get beyond 16. We 
are 
designating the units as 3490 which limiits us to 16 per controller. IBM 
H/W 
and S/W both said to check are the logical address (CUADD) and the 
libport-
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suggestions are gratefully accepted. Oh, the model is  B18 if that has any 

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Re: VTS Issue

2007-10-05 Thread Ken Porowski
CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A580,PATH=((CSS(0),B0,B1,B2,B3)),*
  UNITADD=((00,016)),CUADD=0,UNIT=3490 
IODEVICE ADDRESS=(580,016),UNITADD=00,CUNUMBR=(A580),STADET=Y,*
  UNIT=3490
CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A590,PATH=((CSS(0),B0,B1,B2,B3)),*
  UNITADD=((00,016)),CUADD=1,UNIT=3490 
IODEVICE ADDRESS=(590,016),UNITADD=00,CUNUMBR=(A590),STADET=Y,*
  UNIT=3490
CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A5A0,PATH=((CSS(0),B0,B1,B2,B3)),*
  UNITADD=((00,016)),CUADD=2,UNIT=3490 
IODEVICE ADDRESS=(5A0,016),UNITADD=00,CUNUMBR=(A5A0),STADET=Y,*
  UNIT=3490
CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=A5B0,PATH=((CSS(0),B0,B1,B2,B3)),*
  UNITADD=((00,016)),CUADD=3,UNIT=3490 
IODEVICE ADDRESS=(5B0,016),UNITADD=00,CUNUMBR=(A5B0),STADET=Y,*
  UNIT=3490  
  
0580,16   3490  OFFLINE=YES,DYNAMIC=YES,LOCANY=NO,

 
LIBRARY=YES,AUTOSWITCH=NO,LIBRARY-ID=12345,
LIBPORT-ID=01


---
0590,16   3490  OFFLINE=YES,DYNAMIC=YES,LOCANY=NO,

 
LIBRARY=YES,AUTOSWITCH=NO,LIBRARY-ID=12345,
LIBPORT-ID=02


---
05A0,16   3490  OFFLINE=YES,DYNAMIC=YES,LOCANY=YES,

 
LIBRARY=YES,AUTOSWITCH=NO,LIBRARY-ID=12345,
LIBPORT-ID=03


---
05B0,16   3490  OFFLINE=YES,DYNAMIC=YES,LOCANY=YES,

 
LIBRARY=YES,AUTOSWITCH=NO,LIBRARY-ID=12345,
LIBPORT-ID=04


--- 

With the B18 you should have a minimum of 32 drives but can only go to
64 with enough disk and current microcode.

Is it possible that the LIBPORT is specified incorrectly?  IBM H/W
should be able to confirm what the settings actually are.

-Original Message-
Daniel McLaughlin

We have the VTS in place and the latest microcodes on it but seem to be
having a controller problem. We can only get one controller online, and
none after that. We'd like to have 64 drives in it, but can't get beyond
16. We are designating the units as 3490 which limiits us to 16 per
controller. IBM H/W and S/W both said to check are the logical address
(CUADD) and the libport- ID in the HCD. However, they said we have them
set up properly. Any other suggestions are gratefully accepted. Oh, the
model is  B18 if that has any bearing.

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:17:03 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

Of course, Shane was referring to the fact that he lives in Australia.
Eastern Time for them is not the same as Eastern Time in the United States.

Worse yet, responding to the OP's plaint, in the Uniform Daylight Time
Act of 1966, the U.S. Congress in its wisdom found it expedient (fewer
other laws would need change) not to define Daylight Saving Time,
but to redefine Standard Time as an hour faster in the summer than in
the winter:

   Linkname: US CODE: Title 15,260a. Advancement of time or changeover dates
URL: 
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_0260---a000-.html

   (a) Duration of period; State exemption
   During the period commencing at 2 o'clock antemeridian on the first Sunday 
of April of
   each year and ending at 2 o'clock antemeridian on the last Sunday of October 
of each
   year, the standard time of each zone established by sections 261 to 264 of 
this title,
   as modified by section 265 of this title, shall be advanced one hour and 
such time as
   so advanced shall for the purposes of such sections 261 to 264, as so 
modified, be the
   standard time of such zone during such period; ...

... so Eastern Standard Time is technically and legally correct, even while
clocks are advanced an hour during the summer.

An immediate consequence was that radio station WWWV which had previously
announced Eastern Standard Time changed to announcing UTC to avoid the
otherwise inevitable confusion.

IMHO, we should either a) make all time-telling devices adjust
themselves automatically -- with some way to keep up with the local
policy changes that will inevitably occur from time-to-time -- like
mainframes do when synchronized with an ETR (notice the on-topic
reference!) -- or b) just *permanently * set the time half-way between
Standard and Daylight Time and call it even!

Expanding on (a), a paradigm shift is required.  We must cease thinking
of a time change as a semiannual event requiring, e.g., updating a field
in the CVT.  Rather we must think of an algorithm for each locale which
converts any TOD value, either present or historical, to the correct
local time.  Such an algorithm would not be changed for the predictable
semiannual perceived events, but be changed only for the unpredictable
local policy changes.

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Re: IXC454I messages

2007-10-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:41:04 -0500, Chris Burgess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have trying to research the cause of IXC454I messages when we IPL and
have come up empty. We have a test environment where we bring up one
LPAR (to initialize the Sysplex) and when complete, we bring up 15 more in one
shot. A few will come up completely and others get IXC454I messages. We are
running a z/9 BC with 4 CP's and one SAP. The CF is internal and we are using
IC's and a list structure for communications. The LPARs are a mixture of z/OS
1.6-1.9. We tried increasing the IC's to 8 and the results were the same. We
have another z/9 BC that has 4 CP's, 1 ICF and 2 SAPs. We see the same
issues there. Any help would be much appreciated.


I know you only have 1 CF and you probably don't want to define CTCs
for XCF signaling, but have you tried additional signaling structures?
Even if you aren't using transport classes, there can be a benefit to
having multiple structures in use for the same CF. 

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PEND (was: System REXX for z/OS R8 Web ...)

2007-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:22:38 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

For those that need it, the PROC is extremely simple:

//AXRPSTRT PROC
//AXRPSTRT EXEC PGM=AXRINSTR,TIME=NOLIMIT
// PEND

Is PEND tolerated in library PROCs nowadays?  I have always considered
it a PITA and extraordinarily stupid that it isn't (wasn't?).  Was this
changed to accommodate // INCLUDE?

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:17:03 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

Of course, Shane was referring to the fact that he lives in Australia.
Eastern Time for them is not the same as Eastern Time in the United States.

And it's winter there when it's summer in the northern hemisphere.



IMHO, we should either a) make all time-telling devices adjust
themselves automatically -- with some way to keep up with the local
policy changes that will inevitably occur from time-to-time -- like
mainframes do when synchronized with an ETR (notice the on-topic
reference!) -- or b) just *permanently * set the time half-way between
Standard and Daylight Time and call it even!

My preference is B, though I don't see why we should make a half hour 
adjustment.  I don't really care that much what time it is.  I just wish the 
government would quit mucking with my clocks.

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Re: no mail

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
 
 [ snip ]
 
 Of course, Shane was referring to the fact that he lives in 
 Australia. 
 Eastern Time for them is not the same as Eastern Time in the 
 United States.
 
 When I was a kid, we had one analog clock on the mantle above 
 the fireplace in the living room. Twice a year, my Dad would 
 walk up to the clock and, in a process that took all of about 
 two seconds, spin the minute hand on the clock once in the 
 proper direction and walk away ... 
 done!
 
 Now, I have a clock in every room, in every car, on numerous 
 kitchen appliances (oven, microwave, coffee maker, 
 refrigerator, etc.), on telephones, answering machines, 
 radios, TVs, fax machines, etc. I even have a clock on my shaver!
 
 In my house, switching to/from Daylight Time has become an 
 unbelievable twice-a-year hassle. Some clocks, e.g. on my fax 
 machine, never get reset because I can't remember how to do 
 it without digging out the manual. Life's too short!
 
 IMHO, we should either a) make all time-telling devices 
 adjust themselves automatically -- with some way to keep up 
 with the local policy changes that will inevitably occur from 
 time-to-time -- like mainframes do when synchronized with an 
 ETR (notice the on-topic
 reference!) -- or b) just *permanently * set the time 
 half-way between Standard and Daylight Time and call it even!

Or c) set all clocks worldwide to GMT (UTC) and just learn what time of
day things (like sunrise, sunset, lunchtime, bedtime, happy hour,
etc.) happen in your locality.

-jc-

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Re: problem with automatic handling of message IEC534D

2007-10-05 Thread Dan D

Where is MPFXTALL from ... CBT or homegrown?

This exit needs to be updated to allow you to indicate that you want to act 
upon the WTOR version of the IEC534D message.  The MPF exit parameter list 
has a flag to indicate that the message is a WTOR, so the update should be 
fairly simple.


Dan D

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Hi listers,

I have a customer who has no tape management system. He preloads 6
tapes on his 3590 loader. The first backup job runs normally and uses
2 tapes. The third tape is for possible data growth. Now the second
job starts, but because there is currently the third tape mounted,
which is wrong for the second job it issues the message IEC534D
twice, once as WTO and afterwards as WTOR. The MPFXTALL erroneously
replies M only to the WTO and the job stops with the WTOR. The fourth
tape would be the correct one for the second job. Is there a way to
solve it with out rexx programming, so that the wrong tape unloads
and the correct tape is loaded. Here is the job log.

23.44.57 JOB07227  THURSDAY,  04 OCT 2007

23.44.57 JOB07227  IRR010I  USERID SYSADM   IS ASSIGNED TO THIS
JOB.
23.44.57 JOB07227  ICH70001I SYSADM   LAST ACCESS AT 23:44:10 ON
THURSDAY, OCTOB
23.44.57 JOB07227  $HASP373 SAPQSAV1 STARTED - INIT 3- CLASS A -
SYS MVS1
23.44.57 JOB07227  IEF403I SAPQSAV1 - STARTED -
TIME=23.44.57
23.44.57 JOB07227 *IEF233A M
0400,QASJ01,,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1,BKSAPQ.SAVE1.DSS.G0003V
00.05.44 JOB07227  FRIDAY,05 OCT 2007

00.05.44 JOB07227  IEC512I LBL ERR
0400,PRDI03,SL,QASJ01,SL,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1,BKSAP
00.05.44 JOB07227 *MPF012E - MESSAGE IS A WTO NOT A WTOR REPLY NOT
ISSUED
00.05.44 JOB07227 *MPF008E - NOTIFY SYSTEMS
PROGRAMMER
00.05.44 JOB07227 *IEC534D A
0400,PRDI03,SL,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1
00.05.44 JOB07227  REPLY
,M
00.05.44 JOB07227 *101 IEC534D REPLY 'U'-USE OR
'M'-UNLOAD

Thanks in advance for any hints.


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Re: FW: Setting Weights on LPARs

2007-10-05 Thread Mark Zelden
Herbie,

I monitor IBM-MAIN via the web interface and I haven't seen
your post yet. Maybe it was rejected due to the images you
attached (deleted from my response).   To answer your question...

The weights are normalized to 100%.  So 33, is the same as
333 if using 1000 as the total instead of 100. It is common to
use 1000 since it allows more granularity.

However, in the screen shots you attached, the total of the
weights is 1200 (well, 1199).  So 200 /1200 is 16%, which
is still less than the max of 33% of the box if you have one
engine defined (which means it is achievable).

The production LPAR has 84%. So it better have 3 enginges
defined to it.  If it only had 2, it could only get up
to 66% of the total capacity of the box - even if the test
lpar was only using 1%.

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From: Van Dalsen, Herbie
Sent: 05 Oktober 2007 02:38 nm
To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Setting Weights on LPARs

Mark,

We also have a z890, but came from a H30... AS will Richard well know
On the Customize Activation Profiles it allows you to go to 999 ? what on
earth for if what you say is true about the 33. AS you can see, we run our
dev/prod with 999 / 200, I suppose 9,99 / 2 ?

Regards

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Re: problem with automatic handling of message IEC534D

2007-10-05 Thread Dan D

Where is MPFXTALL from ... CBT or homegrown?

This exit needs to be updated to allow you to indicate that you want to act
upon the WTOR version of the IEC534D message.  The MPF exit parameter list
has a flag to indicate that the message is a WTOR, so the update should be
fairly simple.

Dan D

fjpohlen wrote:

Hi listers,

I have a customer who has no tape management system. He preloads 6
tapes on his 3590 loader. The first backup job runs normally and uses
2 tapes. The third tape is for possible data growth. Now the second
job starts, but because there is currently the third tape mounted,
which is wrong for the second job it issues the message IEC534D
twice, once as WTO and afterwards as WTOR. The MPFXTALL erroneously
replies M only to the WTO and the job stops with the WTOR. The fourth
tape would be the correct one for the second job. Is there a way to
solve it with out rexx programming, so that the wrong tape unloads
and the correct tape is loaded. Here is the job log.

snip

00.05.44 JOB07227 *IEC534D A 0400,PRDI03,SL,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1
00.05.44 JOB07227 *101 IEC534D REPLY 'U'-USE OR 'M'-UNLOAD


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Re: 3270 emulator for Mac?

2007-10-05 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Oct 2007 06:19:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
wrote:

I don't remember anybody asking about this before. I just got a new Mac
Mini and put it on my LAN at home. I use x3270 on Linux, but don't like
it very much compared to Hummingbird on Windows. I know that I can use
x3270 on my new Mac, but I'm wondering if there are any Mac native
(Aqua) 3270 emulators out there? I have done a Google search and have
come up empty (lots of useless hits).

http://www.mochasoft.dk/download1macx.htm

Slimware has announced one.

Our BlueZone has a link to the Brown University one:
http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/CIS/tn3270/index.html#latest

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Re: VTS Issue

2007-10-05 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
I've gotten some good things to go by. I'll run them by the guy who is doing 
the work. He knows the values for the TVC and so on and might even know 
the microcode level from IBM.

Thanks for the suggestions to this point and I'll post what happens here.

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Re: IXC454I messages

2007-10-05 Thread Chris Burgess
Thanks Mark for the info. I have not tried an additional structure, we only 
have one now. Is there any trick to setting up a second? 


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On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:41:04 -0500, Chris Burgess
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I have trying to research the cause of IXC454I messages when we IPL and
have come up empty. We have a test environment where we bring up one
LPAR (to initialize the Sysplex) and when complete, we bring up 15 more in one
shot. A few will come up completely and others get IXC454I messages. We are
running a z/9 BC with 4 CP's and one SAP. The CF is internal and we are using
IC's and a list structure for communications. The LPARs are a mixture of z/OS
1.6-1.9. We tried increasing the IC's to 8 and the results were the same. We
have another z/9 BC that has 4 CP's, 1 ICF and 2 SAPs. We see the same
issues there. Any help would be much appreciated.


I know you only have 1 CF and you probably don't want to define CTCs
for XCF signaling, but have you tried additional signaling structures?
Even if you aren't using transport classes, there can be a benefit to
having multiple structures in use for the same CF. 

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Oct 2007 08:41:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Jaffe)
wrote:

IMHO, we should either a) make all time-telling devices adjust 
themselves automatically -- with some way to keep up with the local 
policy changes that will inevitably occur from time-to-time -- like 
mainframes do when synchronized with an ETR (notice the on-topic 
reference!) -- or b) just *permanently * set the time half-way between 
Standard and Daylight Time and call it even!

China has one time zone.   I wish all computers, especially in the
networked world, used Zulu.   All time-date stamps are Zulu, and
end-user programs adjust the display if desired.   

I suppose the first step now would be to create it in HTML specs.
Eventually it would expand into CoBOL reports and such with a function
that asks for local time.   We don't change our computer's clock, only
change the offset.

Cell phones and some radios adjust their time automatically.   I'd
like a car radio with a set time button that set the time to match
whatever station it is tuned to.

I listened to a Mac podcast where he mentioned flying into Phoenix,
checking the time and thinking he missed his plane.

My son-in-law got an Outlook appointment to meet with his bosses in
Seattle, and Outlook translated it to Rocky-Mountain time.   That
would have been nice for a phone interview, but he flew in - and was
an hour off.

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Oct 2007 09:27:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Or c) set all clocks worldwide to GMT (UTC) and just learn what time of
day things (like sunrise, sunset, lunchtime, bedtime, happy hour,
etc.) happen in your locality.

World sports (ESPN time) may lead towards some public acceptance of
this idea.

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Oct 2007 09:46:49 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom
Marchant) wrote:

My preference is B, though I don't see why we should make a half hour 
adjustment.  I don't really care that much what time it is.  I just wish the 
government would quit mucking with my clocks.

I wonder what they do with all the daylight they saved.

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Control Program of OS/360 reel tape

2007-10-05 Thread Patrick . Falcone
If you download the iso file from Ken's site you can use a demo from 
dvdSanta to burn it in DVD format. 

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Gary D. Maxwell
I always thought the purpose of daylight savings was to force drive-in
theaters out of business!!!

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Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

2007-10-05 Thread Edward Jaffe
I've recently put together a service update procedure that starts by 
invoking DSS to compress all PDS-type libraries whose data set names 
match a given pattern. These are SMS-managed data sets and will reside 
on any of the volumes in the storage group.


I tried this and got the error shown:

|1PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R08.0 DATA SET SERVICES 
2007.278 10:29

|-  COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**)
| ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 
'COMPRESS'
| ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 INITIAL SCAN OF USER 
CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED.

| ADR138E (001)-RI01 (01), REQUIRED (SUB)PARAMETER OF 'DDNAME ' IS MISSING
| ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND
| ADR017E (001)-CLTSK(01), 2007.278 10:29:21 TASK NOT SCHEDULED DUE TO 
ERROR. TASK RETURN CODE 0008
|0ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING 
COMPLETE. HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 0008 FROM:

|  SYNTAX
|  TASK001

It seems I must explicitly specify each of the volumes in the storage 
group in order to compress these data sets using DSS!


The control statements shown below work. But, I don't like having to 
specify every volume (or the data set pattern over and over for that 
matter). Suppose volumes are added to or removed from the storage group 
in the future?


COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV0)
COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV1)
COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV2)
COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV3)
COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV4)
COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV5)
COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV6)
COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV7)

Is there another DFSMS utility I can use to compress all PDS-type data 
sets matching a given data set name pattern?


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Re: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

2007-10-05 Thread Alex UMX
Maybe you coud write an ADRDSSU UIM to do that? should be relatively
simple to do - provide storage group and a pattern in DD:UIMIN,
build a sysin and attach adrdssu.

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Re: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

2007-10-05 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:44 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification
 
 
 I've recently put together a service update procedure that starts by 
 invoking DSS to compress all PDS-type libraries whose data set names 
 match a given pattern. These are SMS-managed data sets and 
 will reside 
 on any of the volumes in the storage group.
 
 I tried this and got the error shown:
 
 |1PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R08.0 DATA SET SERVICES 
 2007.278 10:29
 |-  COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**)
 | ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 
 'COMPRESS'
 | ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 INITIAL SCAN OF USER 
 CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED.
 | ADR138E (001)-RI01 (01), REQUIRED (SUB)PARAMETER OF 'DDNAME 
 ' IS MISSING
 | ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT COMMAND
 | ADR017E (001)-CLTSK(01), 2007.278 10:29:21 TASK NOT 
 SCHEDULED DUE TO 
 ERROR. TASK RETURN CODE 0008
 |0ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING 
 COMPLETE. HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 0008 FROM:
 |  SYNTAX
 |  TASK001
 
 It seems I must explicitly specify each of the volumes in the storage 
 group in order to compress these data sets using DSS!
 
 The control statements shown below work. But, I don't like having to 
 specify every volume (or the data set pattern over and over for that 
 matter). Suppose volumes are added to or removed from the 
 storage group 
 in the future?
 
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV0)
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV1)
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV2)
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV3)
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV4)
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV5)
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV6)
 COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV7)
 
 Is there another DFSMS utility I can use to compress all 
 PDS-type data 
 sets matching a given data set name pattern?
 
 -- 
 Edward E Jaffe

Off hand, without having coded it, I'd say that I'd try to use REXX. I'd
OUTTRAP the contents of a LISTC. For each NONVSAM entry, I'd do a
LISTDSI to check. If the RC=0 and the DSORG=PO, then I'd ALLOCATE it and
then call IEBCOPY to do the actual compress. I think that ADRDSSU uses
IEBCOPY to do the actual compress.

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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
ASM, RSM and VSM all work together to resolve these kinds of issues; 
it's called Teamwork. If you've validly GETMAINed the storage, you'll

never know where the storage resided when you started the access; if
you 
don't validly own the storage, you'll see the mainframe equivalent of 
Microsoft's Blue Screen of Death. It's been that way all the way back

to OS/360, and, I suspect, most of the other operating systems that
were 
used before then.

OS/360 was a real storage only operating system. DAT was introduced with
S/370. OS/390 could run on that hardware but not use DAT (and other
new hardware facilites). 

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Re: High Water Mark for a HLQ

2007-10-05 Thread Kelman, Tom
  Ed:
 
  Admittedly my experience with Kommand is dated also.  It's about 6
  years
  old.  However, when I worked for a company that used it, the
  product had
  an SVC with it.  This SVC trapped every request that would cause a
  change in a dataset's size such as new allocation, deletion, and
space
  extension or release.  It would then cut an SMF record indicating
what
  was done and the amount of DASD space involved.  When you first
  installed the product you would run a utility that cut the initial
SMF
  records showing all the space allocated by datasets at that point in
  time.  After that you just kept track of the changes based on the
SMF
  records.  I felt it worked fairly well.
 
  Tom Kelman
 
 
 Tom:
 
 Interesting addition it has made, thanks for the update. How has your
 experience shown about abends in the regular reporting process?
 I got tired of debugging their COBOL programs. The only positive
 thing I can say about the package is that their IEFACTATRT was
 attractive in the output as it was easy to understand and the users
 liked it.
 
 Ed
 
Well, I installed the system parts of the product and then ran the SMF
records into MXG for capacity planning.  The charge back reporting would
have been run by the applications side of the house.  However, I never
heard any complaints about a lot of COBOL debugging.




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Re: IXC454I messages

2007-10-05 Thread Mark Zelden
Nope.  Just use a different name (it must start with IXC).  Obviously
you have to add it to pathin/pathout in COUPLExx to be available at 
IPL time, but you can add it dynamically while your LPAR(s) are still
up to verify it is working.

PATHIN  STRNAME(IXCSTR1,IXCSTR2) 
PATHOUT STRNAME(IXCSTR1,IXCSTR2) 

One thing you may want to look at (although I'm not sure if it will 
help) are the RMF CF and XCF reports from the one system that is 
up for the time frame when you IPL the other 15 LPARs.

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:27:06 -0400, Chris Burgess
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Thanks Mark for the info. I have not tried an additional structure, we only
have one now. Is there any trick to setting up a second?


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Subject: Re: IXC454I messages

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:41:04 -0500, Chris Burgess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have trying to research the cause of IXC454I messages when we IPL and
have come up empty. We have a test environment where we bring up one
LPAR (to initialize the Sysplex) and when complete, we bring up 15 more in one
shot. A few will come up completely and others get IXC454I messages. We are
running a z/9 BC with 4 CP's and one SAP. The CF is internal and we are using
IC's and a list structure for communications. The LPARs are a mixture of z/OS
1.6-1.9. We tried increasing the IC's to 8 and the results were the same. We
have another z/9 BC that has 4 CP's, 1 ICF and 2 SAPs. We see the same
issues there. Any help would be much appreciated.


I know you only have 1 CF and you probably don't want to define CTCs
for XCF signaling, but have you tried additional signaling structures?
Even if you aren't using transport classes, there can be a benefit to
having multiple structures in use for the same CF.


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Re: IBMLink is UP - just kidding

2007-10-05 Thread Kelman, Tom
 
  Just say Eastern Time, or Pacific, or Mountain...
  It's just as accurate and you don't have to worry about confusing
 people.
 
 Wanna bet ???.
 
 Shane ...
 
 Especially if you are in Arizona in the summer, one of the few places
 that doesn't believe we save time by changing our clocks.
 
 Maybe we should go on ESPN time...
 
Just try Indiana.  At least Arizona can agree on how to set their clocks
state wide.  Indiana can't even do that.  Some of the state goes to
Daylight Saving Time and some doesn't.




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Re: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

2007-10-05 Thread Ray Mullins
But Ed, think of the possibilities!  Write it, add it to Phoenix' stable of
excellent products, sell it for a pittance so many companies could afford
it...  :-D

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 Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
 Sent: Friday, 05 October, 2007 11:46
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification
 
 McKown, John wrote:
  Off hand, without having coded it, I'd say that I'd try to use REXX.
 I'd
  OUTTRAP the contents of a LISTC. For each NONVSAM entry, I'd do a
  LISTDSI to check. If the RC=0 and the DSORG=PO, then I'd ALLOCATE it
 and
  then call IEBCOPY to do the actual compress. I think that ADRDSSU
 uses
  IEBCOPY to do the actual compress.
 
 
 Ummm.. You're suggesting I write my own utility. That is precisely what
 I was trying to avoid by using DSS in the first place!

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Re: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

2007-10-05 Thread Edward Jaffe

McKown, John wrote:

Off hand, without having coded it, I'd say that I'd try to use REXX. I'd
OUTTRAP the contents of a LISTC. For each NONVSAM entry, I'd do a
LISTDSI to check. If the RC=0 and the DSORG=PO, then I'd ALLOCATE it and
then call IEBCOPY to do the actual compress. I think that ADRDSSU uses
IEBCOPY to do the actual compress.
  


Ummm.. You're suggesting I write my own utility. That is precisely what 
I was trying to avoid by using DSS in the first place!


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Re: problem with automatic handling of message IEC534D

2007-10-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is the MPFXTALL from CBT. Where do I have to specify the parameter 
list and how is it coded?


kind regards
Franz Josef Pohlen


Dan D schrieb:

Where is MPFXTALL from ... CBT or homegrown?

This exit needs to be updated to allow you to indicate that you want 
to act
upon the WTOR version of the IEC534D message.  The MPF exit parameter 
list
has a flag to indicate that the message is a WTOR, so the update 
should be

fairly simple.

Dan D

fjpohlen wrote:

Hi listers,

I have a customer who has no tape management system. He preloads 6
tapes on his 3590 loader. The first backup job runs normally and uses
2 tapes. The third tape is for possible data growth. Now the second
job starts, but because there is currently the third tape mounted,
which is wrong for the second job it issues the message IEC534D
twice, once as WTO and afterwards as WTOR. The MPFXTALL erroneously
replies M only to the WTO and the job stops with the WTOR. The fourth
tape would be the correct one for the second job. Is there a way to
solve it with out rexx programming, so that the wrong tape unloads
and the correct tape is loaded. Here is the job log.

snip

00.05.44 JOB07227 *IEC534D A 0400,PRDI03,SL,SAPQSAV1,SAVE1
00.05.44 JOB07227 *101 IEC534D REPLY 'U'-USE OR 'M'-UNLOAD


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Re: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

2007-10-05 Thread Traylor, Terry
Well, IBM has a STORGRP parameter for DSS copy.  Too bad they don't have
one for COMPRESS. 


Terry Traylor 
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

I've recently put together a service update procedure that starts by
invoking DSS to compress all PDS-type libraries whose data set names
match a given pattern. These are SMS-managed data sets and will reside
on any of the volumes in the storage group.

I tried this and got the error shown:

|1PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R08.0 DATA SET SERVICES 
2007.278 10:29
|-  COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**)
| ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND
'COMPRESS'
| ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 INITIAL SCAN OF USER
CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED.
| ADR138E (001)-RI01 (01), REQUIRED (SUB)PARAMETER OF 'DDNAME ' IS 
| MISSING ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT 
| COMMAND ADR017E (001)-CLTSK(01), 2007.278 10:29:21 TASK NOT SCHEDULED 
| DUE TO
ERROR. TASK RETURN CODE 0008
|0ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING

COMPLETE. HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 0008 FROM:
|  SYNTAX
|  TASK001

It seems I must explicitly specify each of the volumes in the storage
group in order to compress these data sets using DSS!

The control statements shown below work. But, I don't like having to
specify every volume (or the data set pattern over and over for that
matter). Suppose volumes are added to or removed from the storage group
in the future?

COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV0) COMPRESS
INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV1) COMPRESS
INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV2) COMPRESS
INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV3) COMPRESS
INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV4) COMPRESS
INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV5) COMPRESS
INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV6) COMPRESS
INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV7)

Is there another DFSMS utility I can use to compress all PDS-type data
sets matching a given data set name pattern?

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Re: Check out E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News

2007-10-05 Thread Matthew Stitt
Several years a company I worked at saw their e-mail system get hit with a
similar (non-)attack.  An executive went on vacation and set the
out-of-office reply to respond to reply-all.  Couple that with a few
more people out of the office, and it did not take long to bring the
company's network to a complete standstill.  Took the e-mail admins most of
the day to purge inboxes and disable e-mail accounts.  Then got the CIO to
send a memo about how to use out of office e-mail functions.

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:55:59 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

At 23:02 -0400 on 10/04/2007, Ed Finnell wrote about Check out E-Mail
Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News:

_E-Mail  Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News_
(http://news.aol.com/story/_a/e-mail-problem-creates-message-flood/20071004120009990001?ncid=NWS00010
1) 

Sometimes you just have to hang your head and  laugh

Although the article does not explain what went wrong (just that he
tried to send a reply) I'd guess that the original message was sent
with the FROM (or SENDER) set to the list address not to a List
Administrator address. Thus any reply would go to the list for
echoing to all the subscribers. In addition, the list would seem to
be of an Announce-Only type where only the Administrator should be
able to submit but seems to allow anyone to submit (a bad idea for
that type of list given its purpose).

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Re: IBMLink is UP - just kidding

2007-10-05 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Oct 2007 11:39:50 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelman, Tom)
wrote:

Just try Indiana.  At least Arizona can agree on how to set their clocks
state wide.  Indiana can't even do that.  Some of the state goes to
Daylight Saving Time and some doesn't.

I thought I read that Indiana finally gave in.And I believe the
big Navaho reservation is different from the rest of Arizona.

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Re: Hipersockets performance

2007-10-05 Thread Matthew Stitt
What is the MTU size set to on your system(s)?

With HiperSockets you can go to large MTU and not be stuck with the old size
of 1492.  I believe 64K is not too unreasonable.


We've been testing a hipersockets connection between z/OS V1R7 and linux
partitions.  After following the setup steps in the Hipersockets Red Book
transmit speeds using ftp or scp have been disappointing.  Either our
testing process is incorrect or the configuration is wrong.  Does anyone
have experience with this environment?

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Re: problem with automatic handling of message IEC534D

2007-10-05 Thread Dan D
As it's from CBT, I suggest you either contact the author (Glenn Siegel) or 
see if someone else knows this utility.  It may have the capability now of 
GETing the next part of the message when the first IEC534D is seen.


After a quick peek at the code, I noticed that Glen has made other updates 
for users.  Maybe he'll add another keyword like REPLYWTOR so that it will 
only reply when the message is a WTOR, and ignore messages that are not.


Glen's email address is in the CBT file as well as his web site (google 
MPFXTALL).


Good luck.
Dan D

fjpohlen wrote:

It is the MPFXTALL from CBT. Where do I have to specify the parameter
list and how is it coded?

kind regards
Franz Josef Pohlen


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Re: Check out E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News

2007-10-05 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 10/5/2007 2:16:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Several  years a company I worked at saw their e-mail system get hit with a
similar  (non-)attack.  An executive went on vacation and set  the
out-of-office reply to respond to reply-all.  Couple that with  a few




Wasn't the original Christmas Worm on VM an OoO attempt? 



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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hunkeler Peter  , KIUK 3) writes:
 OS/360 was a real storage only operating system. DAT was introduced with
 S/370. OS/390 could run on that hardware but not use DAT (and other
 new hardware facilites). 

DAT was introduced on 360/67 ... basically 360/65 with dynamic address
translation ... at least in its single processor version (although
360/67 offerred both 24-bit as well as 32-bit virtual addressing
modes). The 360/67 multiprocessor did offer some additional features
vis-a-vis 360/65 multiprocessor ... like all 360/67 processors could
directly address all physical channels (while 360/65 multiprocessor was
limited to addressing common real storage ... but didn't provide channel
multiprocessor connectivity).

tss/360 was to be the official operating system supporting 360/67 but
ran into lots of problems and was decommited.

however, the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

did do a virtual machine monitor called cp40 for a 360/40 with custom
hardware dynamic address translation modifications ... and then morphed
it into cp67 when production 360/67 machines became available. cp67 was
the precursor to vm370 when virtual memory support was announced for
370.

the initial prototype for os/vs2 svs ... precusor to os/vs2 mvs ...  was
a custom modified mvt system ... initially running on 360/67
machines. it had hack on the side to create a single 16mbyte virtual
address space and some simple interrupt handler for page faults.  it
also had CCWTRANS (and associated routines) from cp67 wired into the
side to handle the application channel programs (from excp/svc0) to
real channel program translation.

This is an issue common for both virtual machine monitors and the os/vs
genre of operation systems ... where the applications built channel
programs that were then passed to be directly executed.  The 360/370
genre of channels required real addresses for execution ... but the
application (and/or virtual machine) built channel programs all had
virtual address specifications. To handle the situation, a copy of the
original channel program had to be created with the specified virtual
addresses replaced with the corresponding real addresses.

for other topic drift ... charlie's work on fine-grain locking
supporting cp67 multiprocessor operation resulted in his invention of
the compare-and-swap instruction (mnemonic chosen because CAS are
charlie's initials). initial forey with pok and 370 architecture owners
were met with brick wall resistance because the pok favorite son
operating system people claimed that the test-and-set instruction (from
360 days) were more than sufficient for all multiprocessor support.  The
challenge was in order to justify comapre-and-swap instruction was a
non-multiprocessor use had to be defined/invented. The result was
the multi-threaded use description (whether or not the environment
was multiprocessor) that current shows up in appendix section in
principles of operation. misc. posts mentioning multiprocessor
and/or compare-and-swap instruction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

somewhat related to the original thread subject ... when i first got a
copy of cp67 at the university as an undergraduate ... when virtual
machine logged on ... the virtual address space backing store (for the
virtual machine) were all initialized to a single, special zeros page
on the cp67 ipl/boot volume. Each corresponding page table entry that
pointed to the zeros page also had a flag that if the virtual page was
ever modified/changed (after being fetched into real storage), it was to
have a new (disk paging) backing location dynamically allocated.

an early enhancement that i made to cp67 ... was to initialize freshly,
created virtual storage with indication that on initial page fault, that
instead of fetching the virtual page from some disk location ... that a
real page was to be allocated and then simply cleared to zeros (i used a
bxle loop with stm of ten registers that had been all cleared to zeros).

The recompute flag still remained the same ... i.e. if virtual
execution subsequently modified a zeros page ... it would have a new
back disk page location dynamically allocated.

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mass pds compress

2007-10-05 Thread Havelock, Glenn A
If you have CA'S PDSMAN its FASTCOPY utility will handle this.

 

Regards,

 

Glenn

 

 

 

-Original Message-

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Edward Jaffe

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:44 AM

To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Subject: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

 

I've recently put together a service update procedure that starts by
invoking DSS to compress all PDS-type libraries whose data set names
match a given pattern. These are SMS-managed data sets and will reside
on any of the volumes in the storage group.

 

I tried this and got the error shown:

 

|1PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R08.0 DATA SET SERVICES 

2007.278 10:29

|-  COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**)

| ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND

'COMPRESS'

| ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 INITIAL SCAN OF USER

CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED.

| ADR138E (001)-RI01 (01), REQUIRED (SUB)PARAMETER OF 'DDNAME ' IS 

| MISSING ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT 

| COMMAND ADR017E (001)-CLTSK(01), 2007.278 10:29:21 TASK NOT SCHEDULED 

| DUE TO

ERROR. TASK RETURN CODE 0008

|0ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING

 

COMPLETE. HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 0008 FROM:

|  SYNTAX

|  TASK001

 

It seems I must explicitly specify each of the volumes in the storage
group in order to compress these data sets using DSS!

 

The control statements shown below work. But, I don't like having to
specify every volume (or the data set pattern over and over for that
matter). Suppose volumes are added to or removed from the storage group
in the future?

 

COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV0) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV1) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV2) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV3) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV4) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV5) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV6) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV7)

 

Is there another DFSMS utility I can use to compress all PDS-type data
sets matching a given data set name pattern?

 

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Phoenix Software International, Inc

5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800

Los Angeles, CA 90045

310-338-0400 x318

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sr Consultant

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Office phone 908-874-9436

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Re: Check out E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News

2007-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:16:06 -0500, Matthew Stitt wrote:

Several years a company I worked at saw their e-mail system get hit with a
similar (non-)attack.  An executive went on vacation and set the
out-of-office reply to respond to reply-all.  Couple that with a few
more people out of the office, and it did not take long to bring the

Why would a MUA ever be designed to allow sending an OoO message via
Reply All?  (I can imagine some rationale, but it doesn't balance
the risk.)

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:36:32 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:

On 5 Oct 2007 09:27:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Or c) set all clocks worldwide to GMT (UTC) and just learn what time of
day things (like sunrise, sunset, lunchtime, bedtime, happy hour,
etc.) happen in your locality.

World sports (ESPN time) may lead towards some public acceptance of
this idea.

OTOH, there's considerable utility in knowing when it's lunchtime,
etc., in other localities because that's a bad time to attempt
a phone call.  One of our offices which does considerable
global conferencing has a half dozen clocks on the wall, displaying
the time at our other major offices (you've seen similar in TV
and press newsrooms).  It would miss the mark to have them all
show UTC.

I suppose that if our lunchtime is 1800 UTC, the clock for Canberra
could be adjusted to show 1800 whenever it's lunchtime in Canberra.
This would work middling well except for an employee based in
Canberra who happens to visit the home office.

And I recall the time I tried to telephone someone a couple zones
east of me:

(Admin. Asst's voice): He's out to lunch.

(Early, I thought.  But when he returns, I'll be at lunch.): Can
he call me back two hours from now?

(Long pause): I don't know; what time zone are you in?

I had intended two hours from now to make that question and
convoluted computation unnecessary.

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Re: Setting Weights on LPARs

2007-10-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The weights only take effect when the machine is at 100%.

Not quite accurate.

All LPARs also have to 'want' CPU.
If one is coasting and the other wants more, it will get it (unless capped).

EG:
Weights: LPARA -- 650
  LPARB -- 350

Off shift LPARA is nearly idle
Processor usage 100%

From real life:
Usage: LPARA -- 30%
LPARB -- 69%
 PHYSICAL -- 1%

Weights only take effect if there is processor contention (at 100%).

-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 11:35 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:

 China has one time zone.

Which (of course) is set for the convenience of Beijing. Pity the poor
souls in (far) western regions.
The difference is noticeable just trying to arrange photos at dawn each
day as you putter up (what is known as) the Yangtze.

Shane ...

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Re: mass pds compress

2007-10-05 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
back in the old days we'd simply hmig and hrecall the whole lot.  can't say
if that still works or not.


  

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Of Havelock, Glenn A
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: mass pds compress

If you have CA'S PDSMAN its FASTCOPY utility will handle this.

 

Regards,

 

Glenn

 

 

 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Edward Jaffe

Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:44 AM

To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Subject: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

 

I've recently put together a service update procedure that starts by
invoking DSS to compress all PDS-type libraries whose data set names match a
given pattern. These are SMS-managed data sets and will reside on any of the
volumes in the storage group.

 

I tried this and got the error shown:

 

|1PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R08.0 DATA SET SERVICES 

2007.278 10:29

|-  COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**)

| ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND

'COMPRESS'

| ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 INITIAL SCAN OF USER

CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED.

| ADR138E (001)-RI01 (01), REQUIRED (SUB)PARAMETER OF 'DDNAME ' IS

| MISSING ADR131E (001)-RI03 (01), ABOVE TEXT BYPASSED UNTIL NEXT

| COMMAND ADR017E (001)-CLTSK(01), 2007.278 10:29:21 TASK NOT SCHEDULED

| DUE TO

ERROR. TASK RETURN CODE 0008

|0ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2007.278 10:29:21 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING

 

COMPLETE. HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 0008 FROM:

|  SYNTAX

|  TASK001

 

It seems I must explicitly specify each of the volumes in the storage group
in order to compress these data sets using DSS!

 

The control statements shown below work. But, I don't like having to specify
every volume (or the data set pattern over and over for that matter).
Suppose volumes are added to or removed from the storage group in the
future?

 

COMPRESS INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV0) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV1) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV2) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV3) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV4) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV5) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV6) COMPRESS

INCLUDE(EJES.PROD450*.**) DYNAM(MVSPV7)

 

Is there another DFSMS utility I can use to compress all PDS-type data sets
matching a given data set name pattern?

 

--

Edward E Jaffe

Phoenix Software International, Inc

5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800

Los Angeles, CA 90045

310-338-0400 x318

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

 

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Glenn Havelock, CA

Sr Consultant

Cellular phone 908-398-7726

Office phone 908-874-9436

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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
 
 
In a message dated 10/5/2007 4:43:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
initially running on 360/67
machines. it had hack on the side to  create a single 16mbyte virtual
address space and some simple interrupt  handler for page faults.  it
also had CCWTRANS (and associated routines)  from cp67 wired into the
side to handle the application channel programs  (from excp/svc0) to
real channel program translation.
 
This has always intrigued me.  What was done to eliminate the  possibility 
that the channel had to access a virtual page that had been paged  out?  An 
enabled application or system code that is copying and translating  
virtual-to-real addresses can always suffer a page fault, wait for the  
page-in, and resume 
as if nothing had happened, but channels cannot wait for  page-fault 
resolution.  Or could they?
 
Bill  Fairchild
Plainfield, IL





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Re: Check out E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News

2007-10-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:13:22 -0500, Paul Gilmartin 
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...
Why would a MUA ever be designed to allow sending an OoO 
message via Reply All?  ...

Designed?  You're making a rash assumption.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Time Zones

2007-10-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
 China has one time zone.

So does India.

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Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage backing up

2007-10-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 This has always intrigued me.  What was done to eliminate the
 possibility that the channel had to access a virtual page that had
 been paged out?  An enabled application or system code that is copying
 and translating virtual-to-real addresses can always suffer a page
 fault, wait for the page-in, and resume as if nothing had happened,
 but channels cannot wait for page-fault resolution.  Or could they?

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#69 GETMAIN/FREEMAIN and virtual storage 
backing up

part of CCWTRANS creation of shadow channel programs (with real
addresses) included pinning/locking the associated virtual pages (to
those real-addresses). after the real i/o had completed (running with
the shadow channel program), there was an UNTRANS process ... that
included unpinning the associated virtual pages.

the original 370 virutal memory architecture included some number of
features that didn't actually make it out. i've posted before about some
features that the 165 hardware engineers ran into problems ... creating
full 370 virtual memory hardware retrofit to the 165 ... and in
escalation where they claimed they could pickup six months on the
delivery schedule if they could drop the features ... and the pok
favorite son operating system expressed they could see no use for the
features. dropping the features then met that all the other processors
had to undo their implementation and any software that was already
completed that would use the additional features ... and to be reworked.

there had been channel operation with virtual addresses defined
(including being able to suspend because of a page-fault and then be
resumed) and there was folklore there was even patents on such channel
operation with virtual addresses. this never got very far into the 370
architecture.

for lots of topic drift ... past posts mentioning issue with
370/165 virtual memory hardware retrofit schedule and
dropping a number of features to make up six monhts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#3 What is an IBM 137/148 ???
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#7 IBM S/360
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#204 Core (word usage) was anti-equipment etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#209 Core (word usage) was anti-equipment etc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000d.html#82 all-out vs less aggressive designs 
(was: Re: 36 to 32 bit transition)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#35 Why IBM use 31 bit addressing not 32 
bit?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#55 X86 ultimate CISC? No. (was: Re: 
all-out vs less aggressive designs)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#63 TSS ancient history, was X86 ultimate 
CISC? designs)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#10 360/370 instruction cycle time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#15 360/370 instruction cycle time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#16 360/370 instruction cycle time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#21 360/370 instruction cycle time
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#63 Are the L1 and L2 caches flushed on a 
page fault ?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001b.html#37 John Mashey's greatest hits
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001k.html#8 Minimalist design (was Re: Parity - 
why even or odd)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#48 Microcode?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#50 Microcode?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#52 Microcode?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#47 Why are Mainframe Computers really 
still in use at all?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#51 Handling variable page sizes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#2 Handling variable page sizes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#68 Tweaking old computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#10 Coherent TLBs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#15 Tweaking old computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#23 Tweaking old computers?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#32 why does wait state exist?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002n.html#58 IBM S/370-168, 195, and 3033
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003e.html#12 Resolved: There Are No Programs With 
32 Bits of Text
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003f.html#56 ECPS:VM DISPx instructions
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#19 Multiple layers of virtual address 
translation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003g.html#20 price ov IBM virtual address box??
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003h.html#37 Does PowerPC 970 has Tagged TLBs 
(Address Space Identifiers)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#34 SR 15,15 was: IEFBR14 Problems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#37 S/360 undocumented instructions?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004c.html#6 If the x86 ISA could be redone
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#8 vm/370 smp support and shared segment 
protection hack

Re: Hipersockets performance

2007-10-05 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

George Soley wrote:

We've been testing a hipersockets connection between z/OS V1R7 and linux
partitions.  After following the setup steps in the Hipersockets Red Book
transmit speeds using ftp or scp have been disappointing.  Either our
testing process is incorrect or the configuration is wrong.  Does anyone
have experience with this environment?



On a z990-303 with a single IFL and 3 CP's using 56K MTU's.  No matter 
what I did I could only get 40MB ps using FTP.  However, I could get 
somewhere between 3-5 FTP streams running concurrently with 40MB ps 
each, total of 120-200 MB ps



The IFL was running z/VM (V4 something) with 2GB central and 1GB 
expanded.   We had two Linux images up and running and each configured 
with 2GB of RAM.


We had 2 z/OS images, one with 2GB central (system programmer sand box) 
and one with 8GB central.


All systems were sharing 6 FICON connections to a single DS8100.  I have 
no clue how the DS8100 was configure or how the DASD was split up.  For 
all I know I could have been ftp'ing files to/from the same array.


It did not matter what I did:

 z/OS to z/OS
 Linux to Linux
 z/OS client to Linux server
 Linux client to z/OS server

We did no tuning either on the z/OS IP stack or the Linux stack.

We were going to go back and look at how the DASD was setup and do some 
tuning on z/OS and Linux stacks, but never got to it.


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Re: Mass PDS Compress Without Volume Specification

2007-10-05 Thread Ed Gould

On Oct 5, 2007, at 1:02 PM, McKown, John wrote:


John,

When I tried this (a few years ago) it seemed to work. I am working  
from memory but you can figure out the correct syntax without too  
much effort.


compress dsorg=po etc...

Don't specify dsn's.

Ed

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Re: Time Zones

2007-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:47:21 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

 China has one time zone.

So does India.

And Chile has two.

And Russia has 11.

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Re: Duplicate Dataset Entries with wildcards

2007-10-05 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Varun,

ISPF 3.4 will search every available catalog to build the dataset list.

I do recall seeing either on this list or the ISPF-L list posts describing
an ISPF built-in function that will allow you to determine which catalogs
are used to build the dataset list.

Regards
Bruce Hewson

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Re: Time Zones (Was: IBMLink is UP - just kidding)

2007-10-05 Thread Bruce Hewson
Of course this annual discussion of daylight savings, and now time zones,
has always been one of my favourite gripes.

Working as I am in Asia, for a multi-national company, being involved in any
global conference call is always tricky. I keep suggesting that we should
all just book such calls using UTC, but the US based company prefers New
York time.

It has got to the stage where I am now suggesting that all our computers
just be set to UTC, with no local offset. That moves ALL handling of local
time to the applications which interface with people. Knowing that all
systems were on UTC it would make problem diagnosis of any log submitted so
much easierno need to be concerned what the local time was where the log
was produced.

If the various military organisations around the world are capable of
running on UTC (Zulu), then similar sized commercial organisations can do
the same.

I see that Gil has made similar comments.

Aside: Singapore uses same time zone as China.which is same as Perth,
Western Australia.
   Jakarta, east of Singapore, is 1 hour behind Singapore...not what
you would expect.

Regards
Bruce Hewson

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Re: Check out E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News

2007-10-05 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:45 -0400 on 10/05/2007, Ed Finnell wrote about Re: Check out 
E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL Ne:



Wasn't the original Christmas Worm on VM an OoO attempt?


If I remember correctly it was. User 1 had scheduled a message (I 
think it was a large message he wanted to get sent/delivered when the 
load on the network was lower by delaying its transmission until the 
Weekend) to get sent after he left on vacation as well as setting up 
a OoO reply daemon. When the scheduled message finally get sent, the 
recipient had a OoO bot of his own on his account. The message got 
rejected/reflected back to the original sender along with a separate 
OoO reply message (thus there were 2 messages in flight back to the 
original sender). These messages each triggered a rejection and OoO 
set (thus upping the in-flight count heading to the original 
recipient to 4). Each Bounce doubled the number of messages going 
back and forth until the system was brought to its knees and an 
Administrator had to fix the problem (the next Monday).


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Re: Check out E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News

2007-10-05 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 0:55 -0400 on 10/05/2007, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote about Re: 
Check out E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL Ne:


At 23:02 -0400 on 10/04/2007, Ed Finnell wrote about Check out 
E-Mail Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News:



_E-Mail  Problem Creates Message Flood - AOL News_
(http://news.aol.com/story/_a/e-mail-problem-creates-message-flood/20071004120009990001?ncid=NWS00010
1) 

Sometimes you just have to hang your head and  laugh


Although the article does not explain what went wrong (just that he 
tried to send a reply) I'd guess that the original message was sent 
with the FROM (or SENDER) set to the list address not to a List 
Administrator address. Thus any reply would go to the list for 
echoing to all the subscribers. In addition, the list would seem to 
be of an Announce-Only type where only the Administrator should be 
able to submit but seems to allow anyone to submit (a bad idea for 
that type of list given its purpose).


It looks like I analyzed the cause correctly. Here is a comment as 
reported in a SANS Institute news article on the incident:


The error could cause big trouble if a hacker sent a bad e-mail 
attachment with a zero-day security vulnerability to nail a few 
dozen gullible security professionals, Marcus Sachs wrote in the 
SANS diary, which documents security incidents.


If you maintain a broadcast mailing list, make sure that the 
address will not reflect e-mail from sources other than the owner of 
the list, Sachs wrote. Otherwise, you will become a training 
example for SANS.


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Re: Duplicate Dataset Entries with wildcards

2007-10-05 Thread Bruce Hewson
The post I remembered is:-

http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0108L=ibm-mainP=R50688I=1X=-

Regards
Bruce Hewson

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