Re: Questions Regarding Disk Cache

2008-02-22 Thread Ron Hawkins
Virtual Storage Access Method - The Complete Source Book for VSAM File
Structures by Ronald K Ferguson.

Now out of box number 2. Mine hasn't got a signature, but it has a coffee
stain :-)

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 What is this VSAM Bible you are referring to?
 
   Ron Hawkins wrote:
  Bob,
 
  Notes on the bookshelf. VSAM Bible in one of three boxes next to
 where I am
  sitting right now.
 
  The notes were part of convincing a customer to use a large CISZ to
 solve a
  CI/CA split problem. The notes are lifted from the book!
 
  Ron
 
 
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PDS dir block - 256 bytes

2008-02-22 Thread R.S.

Recently I wrote that directory block has 256 bytes.
Some responders claimed I was wrong.

I just found the following text:

The directory, a series of 256-byte records at the beginning of the data 
set, contains an entry for each member.

...
Space for the directory is expressed in 256-byte blocks. Each block 
contains from 3 to 21 entries



The text is from DFSMS Using Data Sets.

No comments.
Disclaimer: I know: CKD. C=8, K=8, D=256. 8+8+256=272.
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Re: PDS dir block - 256 bytes

2008-02-22 Thread shai hess
HI,

 Yes, the direcory have 256 data bytes and 8 bytes key. each block (256+8)
have member informations as it fit. The key have the high member name for
that block.

Thanks,
Shai


On 2/22/08, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Recently I wrote that directory block has 256 bytes.
 Some responders claimed I was wrong.

 I just found the following text:
 
 The directory, a series of 256-byte records at the beginning of the data
 set, contains an entry for each member.
 ...
 Space for the directory is expressed in 256-byte blocks. Each block
 contains from 3 to 21 entries
 

 The text is from DFSMS Using Data Sets.

 No comments.
 Disclaimer: I know: CKD. C=8, K=8, D=256. 8+8+256=272.
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Re: PDS dir block - 256 bytes

2008-02-22 Thread Jim McAlpine
Stand by for some more pedantry.

Jim McAlpine


On 2/22/08, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Recently I wrote that directory block has 256 bytes.
 Some responders claimed I was wrong.

 I just found the following text:
 
 The directory, a series of 256-byte records at the beginning of the data
 set, contains an entry for each member.
 ...
 Space for the directory is expressed in 256-byte blocks. Each block
 contains from 3 to 21 entries
 

 The text is from DFSMS Using Data Sets.

 No comments.
 Disclaimer: I know: CKD. C=8, K=8, D=256. 8+8+256=272.
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SV: PDS dir block - 256 bytes

2008-02-22 Thread Thomas Berg
The directory blocks is 42 bytes long, You ignorant nihilists !

You are all wrong !

And Your ties are ugly also !!

;)

Regards,
Thomas

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 Stand by for some more pedantry.
 
 Jim McAlpine
 
 
 On 2/22/08, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Recently I wrote that directory block has 256 bytes.
  Some responders claimed I was wrong.
 
  I just found the following text:
  
 --
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  The directory, a series of 256-byte records at the 
 beginning of the data
  set, contains an entry for each member.
  ...
  Space for the directory is expressed in 256-byte blocks. Each block
  contains from 3 to 21 entries
  
 --
 --
 
  The text is from DFSMS Using Data Sets.
 
  No comments.
  Disclaimer: I know: CKD. C=8, K=8, D=256. 8+8+256=272.
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Re: PDS dir block - 256 bytes

2008-02-22 Thread Shane
And I thought they were advising against unnecessary standing ...
Bad for your insteps or some-such.

Strange ...

Shane ...

On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:42 +, Jim McAlpine wrote:

 Stand by for some more pedantry.

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Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-22 Thread Doug Fuerst
All I can say is I have 4.1 or 550 for z/OS and there is not one shred 
of USS support in the product that I can find. I was told that if I 
wanted that support I needed Omegamon for USS. So if this is the case, 
even the support people and the marketing people are unaware of it. I 
actually use Sysview from CA for my USS monitoring. Omegamon has no idea 
if I have an HFS or where it is.

So if its there, I'd love to know where.

Doug


Timothy Sipples wrote:

snip
I cannot comment on everything mentioned in this thread, but I can comment
on this area.

Candle used to have every monitor priced separately, yes. IBM changed at
least some of that. As of V4.1 (December, 2006), the single Tivoli OMEGAMON
XE for z/OS product now includes UNIX System Services monitoring, for
example. Cryptographic monitoring used to be separate, and now that's in
the same product, too. As another example, Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for Mainframe
Networks combines TCP/IP and VTAM functions. IBM also has a no-charge
Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for z/OS Management Console product which you may
download.

You may be remembering MAINVIEW, in fact, and have this reversed in your
recollection. BMC lists MAINVIEW for z/OS, MAINVIEW for VTAM, MAINVIEW for
IP, and MAINVIEW for UNIX System Services separately, among other monitors.
I believe ASG's TMON is very similar in its splits, to pick another
example. Or it's possible you missed the December, 2006, announcements
where this changed after IBM acquired Candle. That's OK -- sometimes it's
hard to keep up. Mainframes have a lot of velocity now.

In fairness I really don't think this packaging factor is particularly
important. Each vendor is trying to establish the right granularity for
their monitoring products because each customer is different. That way you
can pay for as much or as little function as you need. Lately IBM has been
consolidating more functions into the single products (e.g. OMEGAMON XE for
z/OS and for Mainframe Networks) since, at least in IBM's experience, most
customers now need more base functions -- simplicity over too much
granularity, basically. At the same time IBM may introduce more new
monitors. Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for CICS Transaction Gateway is the only
product that monitors CICS TG, for example, and is a very recent addition
to the family.

As for the other comments in this thread, I would suggest getting the
requirements into SHARE and through other avenues. I know there's a lot of
IBM effort to work through requirements, and a lot has been done but more
to come. One thing that I care about personally is that V4.1 OMEGAMON XE
products now have complete Japanese language support, so that's quite
helpful here.

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Re: COBOL Compiler options

2008-02-22 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of GAVIN Darren * OPS
EAS
 
 Well I do have DLL programs using the Linkage parm I 
 mentioned before working with the Preprocessor and EXEC DLI 
 database calls.  Have had no Issues doing this.
 
 So as long as the CICS Loadlib is a PDSE, I think a DLL 
 module should work in CICS; just like a CALL variable-name 
 USING (where the variable has a program name) works for 
 forcing dynamic calls in CICS.
 
 Note that I said I think..., I've been pulled off mainframe 
 projects for a bit so I can't test this out myself, otherwise 
 I would try it and report back.

My reading of the undocumented restriction is only that the DLL itself
cannot contain any EXEC CICS calls.  I agree that calling a DLL from a
CICS program should be equivalent to dynamically calling another
program.  Remember, though, that I've already said more than I know
about DLLs..

-jc-

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Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Pace
VTOC V(SMS013) SP
 IKJ56500I COMMAND VTOC NOT FOUND
 ***

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM, willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Mark,

  Allow me to add my 2 bits.  Try the following:

  A)TSO OPTION 6
  B) Enter command :VTOC V(XX) SPxx=volser
  C) In the STATUS it will post SMS if the pack is under SMS.

  P.S. You can enter VTOC V(X) SP which will give you all dasd starting
 with X.

  Good luck.


 Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So many great options. Thanks very much.

 I did find a problem with using D SMS,VOL=(volser) It reports a volume as
 not defined
 CBR1064I Command rejected. Volume serial number
 SMS013 undefined.
 But IEHLIST shows that it SMS managed.

 So I obviously have some issues from my migration from 1.7 to 1.9.

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Re: CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK

2008-02-22 Thread Peter Relson
 SETPROG LNKLST DEFINE NAME(COPY) COPYFROM(CURRENT)
 SETPROG LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(COPY)

Can you please explain why you recommend this?  What does it accomplish?

This functionality is one of the main reasons dynamic LNKLST was developed
(the other main one, of course, being to add another data set).

When a concatenation is opened (for example, the IPL-time LNKLST), the DEB
that is built represents all of the extents that currently exist for all of
the data sets in the concatenation. If the data set grows into another
extent, then that DEB cannot be used to access that additional extent.

When you activate a new LNKLST set, that LNKLST set has a newly opened
concatenation. Again, its DEB represents all of the extents that currently
exist. But since current is after the new extent showed up, it will have
that extent represented, and thus can be used to access that additional
extent. Of course, without explicit (unpredictably dangerous, don't
complain to IBM if something bad happens) action (LNKLST UPDATE), the
newly activated LNKLST set is used only by jobs that start after that
activation has occurred

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z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
VTOC V(SMS013) SP
IKJ56500I COMMAND VTOC NOT FOUND
***

VTOC is not a standard IBM-Supplied command.
The original poster of this, may not know that.
But, I googled it and found this link:

www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/cbtware/vtoc.htm
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Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry to answer my own post.
But, that link was to the Hercules version.
You can find a current version at the cbt site.

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Subject: Re: SMS managed volume


VTOC V(SMS013) SP
IKJ56500I COMMAND VTOC NOT FOUND
***

VTOC is not a standard IBM-Supplied command.
The original poster of this, may not know that.
But, I googled it and found this link:

www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/cbtware/vtoc.htm
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Re: PDS dir block - 256 bytes

2008-02-22 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
 
 
In a message dated 2/22/2008 4:25:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Recently I wrote that directory block has 256 bytes.
Some responders  claimed I was wrong.
 
Given the voluminous amount of IBM documentation, you can often find  several 
slightly differently worded phrases that describe the same entity.   
Depending on which one you read, remember, and use in a post, you may be 
unlucky  
enough not to use the same one that another poster remembers and will use as  
proof that you are wrong.  In your case, the operative words were block  and 
size.  If you don't get every word perfect, you risk  everything.  It helps 
to 
have a thick skin when going public with our  knowledge.


 
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Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:58:10 -0500, Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the latest SDSF, SYSID value is carried across LPARs in the plex
regardless of whether they are in a MAS.  Not sure about the
installation and customization, but I now have to use SYSID on every
system, even though none share a SPOOL.


Are you using a shared ISPF profile data set?   If you use SYSID without
any operands, it defaults to the current sysid.  Even if you share your
ISPF profile this will allow you to view the syslog of the system you are 
logged onto without having to issue the SYSID command ever.  That
is the way it's always worked... unless something changed in 1.9 that
I am not aware of.   What has changed is the SYSID ? display in recent
releases.  It used to just show the value of the setting.  Now it will display
all the systems defined in the MASDEF (whether they exist or not) with the
system you are logged onto being enclosed in parenthesis.  In order to tell
the current setting, you have to look at the title line:

SDSF SYSLOG   397.101   IPO1 IPO2  11/15/2000  4W  
  |   | |   |  |   
Job   | |   |Outstandin
number| |   |WTORs 
  | |Date of   
   Data set |SYSLOG
   number   |data set  
|  
 JES2 system ID of the 
 log currently shown (IPO1), and   
 JES2 system ID of the system  
 the user is logged on to (IPO2)   

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Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-22 Thread John Kington
Mark,
 So many great options.  Thanks very much.

 I did find a problem with using D SMS,VOL=(volser)   It reports a volume
as
 not defined
 CBR1064I Command rejected.  Volume serial number
   SMS013 undefined.
 But IEHLIST shows that it SMS managed.

 So I obviously have some issues from my migration from 1.7 to 1.9.

Issue D SMS and verify that Godzilla is looking at your ACDS.
Regards,
John

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Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
mark,,

The Not defined can mean:

Not defined means that the storage group or volume (specified on this   
command) is specified in the SMS configuration as not being connected   
to this MVS system. If the storage group or volume is not defined in
the active configuration, a message indicates that the system rejects   
this command for that reason. If the command is issued for a storage
group with no volume, another message indicates the lack of volumes in  
that group. The symbol for this state is ia.odqf..' 

VTOC is probably a CBT utility.  It is not an MVS function as far as I know.

Have you checked with ISMF on your volume?  I find that is fairly reliable for 
verifying volumes under SMS control.

Lizette
  


VTOC V(SMS013) SP
 IKJ56500I COMMAND VTOC NOT FOUND
 ***

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM, willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Mark,

  Allow me to add my 2 bits.  Try the following:

  A)TSO OPTION 6
  B) Enter command :VTOC V(XX) SPxx=volser
  C) In the STATUS it will post SMS if the pack is under SMS.

  P.S. You can enter VTOC V(X) SP which will give you all dasd starting
 with X.

  Good luck.


  So many great options. Thanks very much.

 I did find a problem with using D SMS,VOL=(volser) It reports a volume as
 not defined
 CBR1064I Command rejected. Volume serial number
 SMS013 undefined.
 But IEHLIST shows that it SMS managed.


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Re: CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK

2008-02-22 Thread Paul Schuster
APAR OA24903 has been taken for this problem, and a ++APAR is available.

I can find no record of OA24903; is this the correct APAR number?

Thank you.

Paul

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Re: SPAM: Re: Questions Regarding Disk Cache

2008-02-22 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip--
Virtual Storage Access Method - The Complete Source Book for VSAM File 
Structures by Ronald K Ferguson.


Now out of box number 2. Mine hasn't got a signature, but it has a 
coffee stain :-)

--unsnip--
You mean coffee was around that far back?

My copy was printed in 1982 and I don't think I've touched it since I 
move into this house.


There was another good reference out called The VSAM Bible; I forget 
the author since I gave it away about 20 years ago.


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Re: CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK

2008-02-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:15:44 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:

 SETPROG LNKLST DEFINE NAME(COPY) COPYFROM(CURRENT)
 SETPROG LNKLST ACTIVATE NAME(COPY)

When a concatenation is opened (for example, the IPL-time LNKLST), the DEB
that is built represents all of the extents that currently exist for all of
the data sets in the concatenation. If the data set grows into another
extent, then that DEB cannot be used to access that additional extent.

When you activate a new LNKLST set, that LNKLST set has a newly opened
concatenation. Again, its DEB represents all of the extents that currently
exist.

I see.  Thank you.

Of course, an LLA REFRESH (or UPDATE) is also needed to find the new 
member.  This could be very useful when a product data set in the linklist goes 
into another extent, especially if it is a product that can be stopped and 
restarted. or one that is not constantly in use, such as, for example, a 
compiler.

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WD4Z log and trace analyzer

2008-02-22 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

If someone has some experience with the WebSphere Developer for system Z
I see in the LOG import, that I can import  SYSTEM trace GTF or 
component trace etc etc, but I don't know how.


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SMS - Variable In FILTLIST

2008-02-22 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers,
   
  I would like to add a variable in a FILTLIST (DATACLAS)  e.g. test.jobnum.  
  I verfied if it is possible in the DOC - DFSMS STORAGE ADMINISTRATION 
REFERENCE GUIDE.  
  It states that It is not an execution statement, and it does not change the 
value of any variables.  
  If I understand correctly, adding the  variable is not permitted.  Is my 
understanding correct?
   
  Thanks to all in advance for your responses.

   
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Re: SMP/E PTF REWORK; RECEIVE, APPLY, and ACCEPT

2008-02-22 Thread Kurt Quackenbush

I'm pretty sure you have to SELECT it with a REDO to APPLY or ACCEPT it.


I'm positive that you have to SELECT with REDO a reworked PTF on APPLY 
and ACCEPT.



I don't know of any report that will tell you about the REWORKed PTF.


There does not exist a report or LIST function to identify reworked PTFs.


My personal choice would be to eschew REWORK and issue a SUPerseding
PTF with a unique sysmod ID, but I may be overruled by management.


I agree.


Me too.  I suggest you rethink your REWORK strategy and go with a unique 
superseding PTF... I think your customers will thank you for it.


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SHARE in Orlando

2008-02-22 Thread Jim Marshall
I am attending SHARE in Orlando and the following was not obvious to me until 
I looked around at the Ground Transportation available for getting from the 
Orlando Airport to the Disney Coronado Springs hotel.  I have always waited 
until I got to the destination airport and jumped a bus or Super Shuttle or 
some type of cheap Van (hey, trying to keep expenses low).  

All my attempts to find info on the Internet pointed me at Disney Magical 
Express and the prices were interesting.  I finally found out the shuttle 
is FREE and only needs a call to the hotel and give them your name. 

In all the 30 years of attending SHARE this is a first and the US Taxpayers 
thank SHARE for this along with the US Govt rate. 

Jim 

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Re: SMS - Variable In FILTLIST

2008-02-22 Thread Ron Wells
Anyone know when PCOM had SSL avaible   Have a customer that says 
there copy---4.1 does not support it...
Please do not ask why they have not changed ...

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Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-22 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Timothy,

Usually I am in agreement with most of what you say, as I am partly with
what you say below, in that IBM has done some good things with Omegamon
since acquiring it.  But, that being said, I must strongly disagree with
your assertion that we should be putting in Share requirements or so on
to get some of these things fixed.  Put in a Share requirement to get
IBM to actually put out documentation that matches the code base?  I
would think that NEEDS to be something that ships with the product, not
some half-baked excuse that the 2-generation old documentation is
enough!  Especially when a bunch of the elements got renamed and/or
changed some other external way.  Trying to install it was a mess
because the documentation wasn't even close to what actually got
installed.

Rex

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Doug Fuerst writes:
And every piece is another
charge. SMS? Gimme some money. USS? Gimme some money. DASD, VTAM, 
whatever? gimme money.

I cannot comment on everything mentioned in this thread, but I can
comment on this area.

Candle used to have every monitor priced separately, yes. IBM changed at
least some of that. As of V4.1 (December, 2006), the single Tivoli
OMEGAMON XE for z/OS product now includes UNIX System Services
monitoring, for example. Cryptographic monitoring used to be separate,
and now that's in the same product, too. As another example, Tivoli
OMEGAMON XE for Mainframe Networks combines TCP/IP and VTAM functions.
IBM also has a no-charge Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for z/OS Management Console
product which you may download.

You may be remembering MAINVIEW, in fact, and have this reversed in your
recollection. BMC lists MAINVIEW for z/OS, MAINVIEW for VTAM, MAINVIEW
for IP, and MAINVIEW for UNIX System Services separately, among other
monitors.
I believe ASG's TMON is very similar in its splits, to pick another
example. Or it's possible you missed the December, 2006, announcements
where this changed after IBM acquired Candle. That's OK -- sometimes
it's hard to keep up. Mainframes have a lot of velocity now.

In fairness I really don't think this packaging factor is particularly
important. Each vendor is trying to establish the right granularity
for their monitoring products because each customer is different. That
way you can pay for as much or as little function as you need. Lately
IBM has been consolidating more functions into the single products (e.g.
OMEGAMON XE for z/OS and for Mainframe Networks) since, at least in
IBM's experience, most customers now need more base functions --
simplicity over too much
granularity, basically. At the same time IBM may introduce more new
monitors. Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for CICS Transaction Gateway is the only
product that monitors CICS TG, for example, and is a very recent
addition to the family.

As for the other comments in this thread, I would suggest getting the
requirements into SHARE and through other avenues. I know there's a lot
of IBM effort to work through requirements, and a lot has been done but
more to come. One thing that I care about personally is that V4.1
OMEGAMON XE products now have complete Japanese language support, so
that's quite helpful here.

- - - - -
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IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software
Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and
IBM Asia-Pacific
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Re: SHARE in Orlando

2008-02-22 Thread Bob Shannon
In all the 30 years of attending SHARE this is a first and the US Taxpayers 
thank SHARE for this along with the US Govt rate.

Well, this is actually a Disney thing, not a SHARE thing.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Harris, Randy
I added the unit(3390) parm to my allocate and it ran ok.
I still haven't discovered why I'm getting INELIGIBLE DEVICE
without the unit parm. 
Thank you for your suggestions,

Randy Harris
Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA
Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.
Tupelo, MS 38802
Phone: 662-566-3447
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As suggested before, I would put in the unit parm and when that works, 
figure out what gave you the wrong one, eg tso, allocxx parmlib member, 
doesn't look like sms,etc

Jack Kelly
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It appears to be defined correctly in the dialogs.
Screen Copy shows:
UPPZFS05F3  3390-9
If I strip out one step of the ALLOCDS job and submit outside the
dialogs I get the same results. See 2 copies of jcl below.
This one works allocating to a syssq volume.
//ALCZFS   EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD   * 
ALLOC - 
DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') - 
RECORG(LS) - 
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) - 
BLKSIZE(4096) - 
VOLUME(MVSSQ3) - 
CATALOG 
/* 

This one does not work.
//ALCZFS   EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD   * 
ALLOC - 
DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') - 
RECORG(LS) - 
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) - 
BLKSIZE(4096) - 
VOLUME(UPPZFS) - 
CATALOG 
/* 


Thanks,

Randy Harris
Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA
Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.
Tupelo, MS 38802
Phone: 662-566-3447
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Randy, the error message suggests you have that volume (UPPZFS) 
incorrectly defined in the ServerPac dialogs.  Under Option M - Modify 
System Layout, primary command SUMP or Option V (Summary of Physical 
Volumes), verify the Device Type of the volume in question.

Good luck.


Cheers,,,Steve

Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems  Services Division
Computer  Network Operations
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Good Day,

I am attempting to upgrade from Z/OS V1.4 to Z/OS V1.7 and am having a
bit of a problem 

getting the ALLOCDS job to run correctly. I am wondering if any of you
have experienced this?

I tried searching the archives but did not find anything helpful.

My error occurrs in the ALCZFS step which allocates the ZFS file system
using the TSO ALLOC parm.

The result is as follows:

READY


ALLOC DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') RECORG(LS)
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) BLKSIZE(4096) VOLUME(UPPZ

FS) CATALOG


IKJ56221I DATA SET ZOS17.OMVS.VAR NOT ALLOCATED, VOLUME NOT AVAILABLE+


IKJ56221I VOLUME UPPZFS CURRENTLY MOUNTED ON AN INELIGIBLE DEVICE


READY


END


It seems to be device related as it will allocate to a syssq volume. I
have another lpar on which It 

will allocate to any volume. I have the specific volumes added to my
vatlst just like my syssq volumes, UPPZFS,0,0,3390,Y .

The device is a 3390 - mod 9. I have tried allocating to a mod 3 device
with the same results. 

Any help is appreciated.

TIA

 

Randy Harris

Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA

Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.

Tupelo, MS 38802

Phone: 662-566-3447

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Re: SHARE in Orlando

2008-02-22 Thread Laine, Rogers
You can also purchase Disney Park discounted tickets for after 2pm or
4pm($43)for a discounted price.

These tickets can be ordered by calling Disney's convention special
information line 407-566-5600.

You cannot purchase these type tickets at the gate.

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I am attending SHARE in Orlando and the following was not obvious to me
until I looked around at the Ground Transportation available for getting
from the Orlando Airport to the Disney Coronado Springs hotel.  I have
always waited until I got to the destination airport and jumped a bus or
Super Shuttle or some type of cheap Van (hey, trying to keep expenses
low).  

All my attempts to find info on the Internet pointed me at Disney
Magical Express and the prices were interesting.  I finally found out
the shuttle is FREE and only needs a call to the hotel and give them
your name. 

In all the 30 years of attending SHARE this is a first and the US
Taxpayers thank SHARE for this along with the US Govt rate. 

Jim 

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Steven Conway
Randy, what do you have specified as UNIT in ALLOCxx of SYS1.PARMLIB?

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I added the unit(3390) parm to my allocate and it ran ok.
I still haven't discovered why I'm getting INELIGIBLE DEVICE
without the unit parm. 
Thank you for your suggestions,

Randy Harris
Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA
Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.
Tupelo, MS 38802
Phone: 662-566-3447
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Subject: Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

As suggested before, I would put in the unit parm and when that works, 
figure out what gave you the wrong one, eg tso, allocxx parmlib member, 
doesn't look like sms,etc

Jack Kelly
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It appears to be defined correctly in the dialogs.
Screen Copy shows:
UPPZFS05F3  3390-9
If I strip out one step of the ALLOCDS job and submit outside the
dialogs I get the same results. See 2 copies of jcl below.
This one works allocating to a syssq volume.
//ALCZFS   EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD   * 
ALLOC - 
DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') - 
RECORG(LS) - 
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) - 
BLKSIZE(4096) - 
VOLUME(MVSSQ3) - 
CATALOG 
/* 

This one does not work.
//ALCZFS   EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD   * 
ALLOC - 
DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') - 
RECORG(LS) - 
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) - 
BLKSIZE(4096) - 
VOLUME(UPPZFS) - 
CATALOG 
/* 


Thanks,

Randy Harris
Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA
Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.
Tupelo, MS 38802
Phone: 662-566-3447
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Subject: Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

Randy, the error message suggests you have that volume (UPPZFS) 
incorrectly defined in the ServerPac dialogs.  Under Option M - Modify 
System Layout, primary command SUMP or Option V (Summary of Physical 
Volumes), verify the Device Type of the volume in question.

Good luck.


Cheers,,,Steve

Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems  Services Division
Computer  Network Operations
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Good Day,

I am attempting to upgrade from Z/OS V1.4 to Z/OS V1.7 and am having a
bit of a problem 

getting the ALLOCDS job to run correctly. I am wondering if any of you
have experienced this?

I tried searching the archives but did not find anything helpful.

My error occurrs in the ALCZFS step which allocates the ZFS file system
using the TSO ALLOC parm.

The result is as follows:

READY


ALLOC DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') RECORG(LS)
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) BLKSIZE(4096) VOLUME(UPPZ

FS) CATALOG


IKJ56221I DATA SET ZOS17.OMVS.VAR NOT ALLOCATED, VOLUME NOT AVAILABLE+


IKJ56221I VOLUME UPPZFS CURRENTLY MOUNTED ON AN INELIGIBLE DEVICE


READY


END


It seems to be device related as it will allocate to a syssq volume. I
have another lpar on which It 

will allocate to any volume. I have the specific volumes added to my
vatlst just like my syssq volumes, UPPZFS,0,0,3390,Y .

The device is a 3390 - mod 9. I have tried allocating to a mod 3 device
with the same results. 

Any help is appreciated.

TIA

 

Randy Harris

Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA

Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.

Tupelo, MS 38802

Phone: 662-566-3447

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Re: SMP/E PTF REWORK; RECEIVE, APPLY, and ACCEPT

2008-02-22 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I thought the whole idea of using REWORK was so you could reapply a usermod 
that has info that changes every now and then so that you wouldn't have to 
change the usermod number every time.  When I was at PH Mining, I had one 
usermod for CA7 that changed every time we added a dataset to the dataset 
trigger table.  That worked very well to just make change to the usermod, 
receive it, and reapply it with REWORK.  I agree that if you are a company 
issuing SMP maintained software, that you should SUP the bad PTF instead of 
changing it and reissuing it.  

Eric

 Kurt Quackenbush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Me too.  I suggest you rethink your REWORK strategy and go with a unique 
 superseding PTF... I think your customers will thank you for it.
 
 Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
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Re: CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK

2008-02-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:04:31 -0600, Paul Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

APAR OA24903 has been taken for this problem, and a ++APAR is available.

I can find no record of OA24903; is this the correct APAR number?

No; I'm afraid Peter had a typo in that message.  He meant OA24093.

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Harris, Randy
I don't have an ALLOCxx in SYS1.PARMLIB.

Randy Harris
Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA
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Tupelo, MS 38802
Phone: 662-566-3447
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Randy, what do you have specified as UNIT in ALLOCxx of SYS1.PARMLIB?

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I added the unit(3390) parm to my allocate and it ran ok.
I still haven't discovered why I'm getting INELIGIBLE DEVICE
without the unit parm. 
Thank you for your suggestions,

Randy Harris
Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA
Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.
Tupelo, MS 38802
Phone: 662-566-3447
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Subject: Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

As suggested before, I would put in the unit parm and when that works, 
figure out what gave you the wrong one, eg tso, allocxx parmlib member, 
doesn't look like sms,etc

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)



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It appears to be defined correctly in the dialogs.
Screen Copy shows:
UPPZFS05F3  3390-9
If I strip out one step of the ALLOCDS job and submit outside the
dialogs I get the same results. See 2 copies of jcl below.
This one works allocating to a syssq volume.
//ALCZFS   EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD   * 
ALLOC - 
DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') - 
RECORG(LS) - 
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) - 
BLKSIZE(4096) - 
VOLUME(MVSSQ3) - 
CATALOG 
/* 

This one does not work.
//ALCZFS   EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD   * 
ALLOC - 
DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') - 
RECORG(LS) - 
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) - 
BLKSIZE(4096) - 
VOLUME(UPPZFS) - 
CATALOG 
/* 


Thanks,

Randy Harris
Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA
Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.
Tupelo, MS 38802
Phone: 662-566-3447
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Subject: Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

Randy, the error message suggests you have that volume (UPPZFS) 
incorrectly defined in the ServerPac dialogs.  Under Option M - Modify 
System Layout, primary command SUMP or Option V (Summary of Physical 
Volumes), verify the Device Type of the volume in question.

Good luck.


Cheers,,,Steve

Steve Conway
Lead Systems Programmer
Information Systems  Services Division
Computer  Network Operations
Phone:   (703) 450-3156
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Good Day,

I am attempting to upgrade from Z/OS V1.4 to Z/OS V1.7 and am having a
bit of a problem 

getting the ALLOCDS job to run correctly. I am wondering if any of you
have experienced this?

I tried searching the archives but did not find anything helpful.

My error occurrs in the ALCZFS step which allocates the ZFS file system
using the TSO ALLOC parm.

The result is as follows:

READY


ALLOC DSNAME('ZOS17.OMVS.VAR') RECORG(LS)
TRACKS SPACE(528,53) BLKSIZE(4096) VOLUME(UPPZ

FS) CATALOG


IKJ56221I DATA SET ZOS17.OMVS.VAR NOT ALLOCATED, VOLUME NOT AVAILABLE+


IKJ56221I VOLUME UPPZFS CURRENTLY MOUNTED ON AN INELIGIBLE DEVICE


READY


END


It seems to be device related as it will allocate to a syssq volume. I
have another lpar on which It 

will allocate to any volume. I have the specific volumes added to my
vatlst just like my syssq volumes, UPPZFS,0,0,3390,Y .

The device is a 3390 - mod 9. I have tried allocating to a mod 3 device
with the same results. 

Any help is appreciated.

TIA

 

Randy Harris

Sr. Systems Programmer / DBA

Lane Furniture Industries, Inc.

Tupelo, MS 38802

Phone: 662-566-3447

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Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-22 Thread Joseph H Winterton
I would like to add to what Timothy Sipples has posted:

IBM did not publish new customization and configuration information for 
V550 due to the small amount of change from V520 to V550 in this area. Doc 
is available at this link:  
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v15r1/index.jsp?toc, 
including backlevel doc for reference purposes. However for the next 
product release, there will be new and updated doc for the Classic 
interface and configuration doc appropriately titled to the release. Thank 
You 

Joe Winterton
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Doug Fuerst writes:
And every piece is another
charge. SMS? Gimme some money. USS? Gimme some money. DASD, VTAM,
whatever? gimme money.

I cannot comment on everything mentioned in this thread, but I can comment
on this area.

Candle used to have every monitor priced separately, yes. IBM changed at
least some of that. As of V4.1 (December, 2006), the single Tivoli 
OMEGAMON
XE for z/OS product now includes UNIX System Services monitoring, for
example. Cryptographic monitoring used to be separate, and now that's in
the same product, too. As another example, Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for 
Mainframe
Networks combines TCP/IP and VTAM functions. IBM also has a no-charge
Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for z/OS Management Console product which you may
download.

You may be remembering MAINVIEW, in fact, and have this reversed in your
recollection. BMC lists MAINVIEW for z/OS, MAINVIEW for VTAM, MAINVIEW for
IP, and MAINVIEW for UNIX System Services separately, among other 
monitors.
I believe ASG's TMON is very similar in its splits, to pick another
example. Or it's possible you missed the December, 2006, announcements
where this changed after IBM acquired Candle. That's OK -- sometimes it's
hard to keep up. Mainframes have a lot of velocity now.

In fairness I really don't think this packaging factor is particularly
important. Each vendor is trying to establish the right granularity for
their monitoring products because each customer is different. That way you
can pay for as much or as little function as you need. Lately IBM has been
consolidating more functions into the single products (e.g. OMEGAMON XE 
for
z/OS and for Mainframe Networks) since, at least in IBM's experience, most
customers now need more base functions -- simplicity over too much
granularity, basically. At the same time IBM may introduce more new
monitors. Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for CICS Transaction Gateway is the only
product that monitors CICS TG, for example, and is a very recent addition
to the family.

As for the other comments in this thread, I would suggest getting the
requirements into SHARE and through other avenues. I know there's a lot of
IBM effort to work through requirements, and a lot has been done but more
to come. One thing that I care about personally is that V4.1 OMEGAMON XE
products now have complete Japanese language support, so that's quite
helpful here.

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Steven Conway
Randy, without ALLOCxx in your PARMLIB concatenation, the default device 
will be SYSALLDA.  If that's not defined in your gen, it would explain the 
failure.  A browse thru HCD would be interesting.


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Re: COBOL Compiler options

2008-02-22 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
Bill, 

The Compile options I used with separate translator and EXEC DLI are:

TRUNC(BIN) DLL EXPORTALL PGMNAME(LONGMIXED)

And on Binder options

DYNAM(DLL),RENT,CASE(MIXED)

I'm going to ask my supervisor if he would like me to attempt DLL's in
CICS, as it sounds like you and IBM might be interested in results of
it.

Darren

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I know that you can't check it now, but are you saying that using the
separate translator step, that you can compile a COBOL program with the
following compiler options:
  NOCICS,NODLL,NODYNAM
but use the binder option
  DYNAM(DLL)

If so, then you probably can do that also with the integrated
coprocessor
(but I won't swear to it).

If, however, you are saying that you can use the separate translator
step
and use the COBOL compiler options
 NOCICS,DLL,NODYNAM

and this works as expected ar tun-time, then that is something that I
(and
suspect IBM) would be very interested in (when you have a chance to
check it
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Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-22 Thread willie bunter
Mark,
   
  H. could you try PRTVTOC instead of VTOC?
   
  Maybe this could be in IN-HOUSE command.  I'll look around.

Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  VTOC V(SMS013) SP
IKJ56500I COMMAND VTOC NOT FOUND
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On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM, willie bunter 
wrote:

 Mark,

 Allow me to add my 2 bits. Try the following:

 A)TSO OPTION 6
 B) Enter command :VTOC V(XX) SP xx=volser
 C) In the STATUS it will post SMS if the pack is under SMS.

 P.S. You can enter VTOC V(X) SP which will give you all dasd starting
 with X.

 Good luck.


 Mark Pace wrote:
 So many great options. Thanks very much.

 I did find a problem with using D SMS,VOL=(volser) It reports a volume as
 not defined
 CBR1064I Command rejected. Volume serial number
 SMS013 undefined.
 But IEHLIST shows that it SMS managed.

 So I obviously have some issues from my migration from 1.7 to 1.9.

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Pat Mihalec
I have sent FTP's from the mainframe, but no sftp. One of the problems 
that we encountered was the file/member that contained the ftp commands 
has to be set with nonum. There cannot be anything in column 72-80. FTP 
thinks this is data.
I hope this helps.

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WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency
which has formerly received a tape from us.  They have set up an sftp
server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us
to use.  I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest
hosted on our mainframe but I have not so far been able to sign on from
z/OS. 

It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO.
Presumably, we should be able to start sshd and sign on from a client
session, but that entails some security work which has not been
performed.  (Given the workload on our security guy, I don't look for it
any time soon, either.)  This makes testing and experimenting slow.

Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run
under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated.  If
I am reading the correct information, though, it is not possible to do
this in batch mode using ID/password authentication.  Can anyone say
whether this is correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote server to
add our keys to their setup? 

Thanks,
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Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Jon Brock
WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency
which has formerly received a tape from us.  They have set up an sftp
server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us
to use.  I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest
hosted on our mainframe but I have not so far been able to sign on from
z/OS.  

It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO.
Presumably, we should be able to start sshd and sign on from a client
session, but that entails some security work which has not been
performed.  (Given the workload on our security guy, I don't look for it
any time soon, either.)  This makes testing and experimenting slow.

Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run
under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated.  If
I am reading the correct information, though, it is not possible to do
this in batch mode using ID/password authentication.  Can anyone say
whether this is correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote server to
add our keys to their setup?  

Thanks,
Jon

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock
 
 [ snip ]
 
 Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that 
 can be run under scheduler control to transmit this file when 
 it is generated.  If I am reading the correct information, 
 though, it is not possible to do this in batch mode using 
 ID/password authentication.  Can anyone say whether this is 
 correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote server to add 
 our keys to their setup?  

This scenario from the RACF Security Administrator's Guide might help:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZA760/21.1
2.6

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:20 -0600, Pat Mihalec wrote:
 One of the problems that we encountered was the file/member
 that contained the ftp commands has to be set with nonum.
 There cannot be anything in column 72-80. FTP thinks this
 is data.

Going OT, but you can place a semicolon at the end of the line.  The ftp
client will ignore anything past that.

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Rugen, Len
Remember sftp is not equal to ftpssl.   

You're probably going to need to look at the ported tools / OPENssl
books.

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 [ snip ]
 
 Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that 
 can be run under scheduler control to transmit this file when 
 it is generated.  If I am reading the correct information, 
 though, it is not possible to do this in batch mode using 
 ID/password authentication.  Can anyone say whether this is 
 correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote server to add 
 our keys to their setup?  

This scenario from the RACF Security Administrator's Guide might help:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZA760/21.1
2.6

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Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:29:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You can find a current version at the cbt site.



Right. _www.cbttape.org_ (http://www.cbttape.org)  IIRC this function is also 
 available via PDS command on file182. From long ago and far away Linea 
Nichols  posted a couple of Rexx EXECs on XEPHON that massaged DCOLLECT data 
for  
available apace and if you've got MXG maybe ANALDASD can pluck the data in  
question.







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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Michael Saraco
I have worked on numerous systems that never had SYSALLDA setup in HCD or 
ALLOCxx and never had a problem running TSO BATCH. The default for generic 
for DASD is 3390 that has no ESOTERIC assigned to it.
I tired a Randy's job on Zos14 and a Zos17 and it ran fine without any 
SYSALLDA in esotrics or a ALLOCxx and without adding the unit to the JCL. 




From:
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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue



Randy, without ALLOCxx in your PARMLIB concatenation, the default device 
will be SYSALLDA.  If that's not defined in your gen, it would explain the 

failure.  A browse thru HCD would be interesting.


Cheers,,,Steve

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 2/22/2008 9:04:07 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I still haven't discovered why I'm getting INELIGIBLE DEVICE
without  the unit parm. 
Thank you for your suggestions,



Maybe the ESOTERICs don't match the  configuration? D IOS,CONFIG then doodle 
around EDT to make everybody  smiley faces.







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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Chase, John
Sorry; hit Send too soon

 -Original Message-
 From: Chase, John 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock
  
  [ snip ]
  
  Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that 
 can be run 
  under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is 
 generated.  
  If I am reading the correct information, though, it is not 
 possible to 
  do this in batch mode using ID/password authentication.  Can anyone 
  say whether this is correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote 
  server to add our keys to their setup?
 
 This scenario from the RACF Security Administrator's Guide might help:
 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZA760/21.1
2.6

Or http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ngubl

If you're not already set up for secure FTP on z/OS, you'll also need
to create an FTP.DATA file or member for the z/OS client containing, at
minimum:

EXTENSIONS AUTH_TLS
KEYRING userid/ringname (as described in the earlier RACF manual)
SECURE_MECHANISM TLS
And at least one CIPHERSUITE statement, for which see the Communication
Server IP Configuration Reference manual:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B451/2.10
.32

Or http://preview.tinyurl.com/yr82hg

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Heads up on article in zJournal

2008-02-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just thought you would like to know that I was reading the zJournal mag 
(hardcopy) and noticed an article called

Basic BASH scripting for Mainframe System Programmers

by Mark Post

Congrats Mark.  I actually understood that information on BASH.

Lizette

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Miller, Bill
We do batch ssh transfers everyday using IBM's Ported Tools, here is a
sample batch job:

//**
//* STEPS TO EXECUTE SFTP USING PARAMETERS DYNAMICALLY CREATED IN PDLSDG
//**
//PDLSDI10 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  DUMMY
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSUT2   DD  PATH='/tmp/sftp',FILEDATA=TEXT,  
// PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),PATHMODE=SIRWXU 
//SYSUT1   DD  DSN=SFTPPARM,DISP=SHR   
//* 
//PDLSDI15 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,   
// PARM='SH sftp -b /tmp/sftp -F /gwc/ssh/config
//   [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
//STDOUT   DD  PATH='/tmp/SYSUID..STDOUT', 
// PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),PATHMODE=SIRWXU 
//STDENV   DD  DSN=FGC.GC.LOS.TMPR.SFTP.PWPARMS,DISP=SHR
//* 
//PDLSDI20 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT DD  DUMMY
//SYSINDD  DUMMY
//SYSUT1   DD  PATH='/tmp/SYSUID..STDOUT', 
// FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTS=ORDONLY,PATHDISP=DELETE, 
// RECFM=VB,LRECL=255,BLKSIZE=27998
//DELETE   DD  PATH='/tmp/sftp',   
// FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTS=ORDONLY,PATHDISP=DELETE, 
// RECFM=VB,LRECL=255,BLKSIZE=27998
//SYSUT2   DD  SYSOUT=*
//* 

Here is a sample for
Contents of dataset FGC.GC.LOS.TMPR.SFTP.PWPARMS
DISPLAY=FOO
SSH_ASKPASS=/etc/ssh/ussfile.psw.sh

Here is a sample for the get parms:
lcd .. 
ascii  
get GWCC.ACK.20080221  /tmp/pmierr.txt 
rename GWCC.ACK.20080221  GWCC.ACK.20080221.PRC
!cp /tmp/pmierr.txt  //'FGC.GC.LOS.PROD.PMI.ERROR.FILE'  
!rm /tmp/pmierr.txt
rm GWCC.ACK.200712*
quit   

I also have manuals, please contact me and I will send you a copy of the
IBM Ported Tools manauls.
And some other doc if you want it.

Also open an ETR with IBM and they were very helpful getting this to
work.

Bill Miller
Great West Casualty Company
1100 West 29th Street
South Sioux City, NE 68776
Phone: 402-494-7354
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WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency
which has formerly received a tape from us.  They have set up an sftp
server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us
to use.  I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest
hosted on our mainframe but I have not so far been able to sign on from
z/OS.  

It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO.
Presumably, we should be able to start sshd and sign on from a client
session, but that entails some security work which has not been
performed.  (Given the workload on our security guy, I don't look for it
any time soon, either.)  This makes testing and experimenting slow.

Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run
under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated.  If
I am reading the correct information, though, it is not possible to do
this in batch mode using ID/password authentication.  Can anyone say
whether this is correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote server to
add our keys to their setup?  

Thanks,
Jon

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread John Kington
continuing top-posting
You can setup a default value for unit in your sms configuration.
Regards,
John
 I have worked on numerous systems that never had SYSALLDA setup in HCD or

 ALLOCxx and never had a problem running TSO BATCH. The default for
generic
 for DASD is 3390 that has no ESOTERIC assigned to it.
 I tired a Randy's job on Zos14 and a Zos17 and it ran fine without any
 SYSALLDA in esotrics or a ALLOCxx and without adding the unit to the JCL.





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 To:
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 Date:
 02/22/2008 10:17 AM
 Subject:
 Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue



 Randy, without ALLOCxx in your PARMLIB concatenation, the default device
 will be SYSALLDA.  If that's not defined in your gen, it would explain
the

 failure.  A browse thru HCD would be interesting.


 Cheers,,,Steve

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 Lead Systems Programmer
 Information Systems  Services Division
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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rugen, Len
 
 Remember sftp is not equal to ftpssl.   

Sorry; I ass.u.med the objective was only to accomplish an encrypted
file transfer via scheduled batch job, and didn't perceive sftp
specifically as a hard requirement.

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CA Splits - Clearing CIs

2008-02-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Ron Hawkins wrote:

 I have not heard of a CA being cleared out. My old notes say that all 
 CI with a key higher than the mid-point sequence set record are written 
 to the new CA. The space in the old CA is now marked free - it is not 
 formatted.

Au contraire, Ron.  On a CA split, after moving half of the CIs from the 
source CA, it's necessary for VSAM to format the remaining CIs in the 
other half of the target CA.  Additionally, VSAM must then reformat all 
of the moved CIs in the source CA.  

Otherwise, the emergency capability to read the KSDS as an ESDS (i.e., 
without using the Sequence Set to read it in key sequence) in the event 
the index is blown would not be possible.  

If VSAM didn't format, just imagine how good MVS (yup, when I wrote the VSAM

book, it was still called MVS) data security would be if you read that KSDS 
as if it was an ESDS and those disk tracks in the target CA just happened to

have old deleted data laying around on them that somehow looked like 
your VSAM data set (same 4K CISZ, which many people use, for example); also,

if VSAM didn't reformat the original CIs, you'd physically have duplicate 
data on those tracks with the data that's now out in your target CA.

BTW, Bob (and congratulations on your new job), winter is not a real good
time 
to be off the west coast of Canada in small craft, even if you're on the 
Inside Passage.  My wife and I are heading to SE Alaska in early May,
though, 
and will probably be out for four months.  We're cruising these days on a
42' 
Nordic Tug (www.nordictugs.com), built locally here in good 'ole Anacortes,
WA.  

And no, the VSAM reference book doesn't go with me.

Take care everyone.
Ron Ferguson

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Sorry; hit Send too soon

 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZA760/21.1
2.6

Or http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ngubl

If you're not already set up for secure FTP on z/OS, you'll also need
to create an FTP.DATA file or member for the z/OS client containing, at
minimum:

EXTENSIONS AUTH_TLS
KEYRING userid/ringname (as described in the earlier RACF manual)
SECURE_MECHANISM TLS And at least one CIPHERSUITE statement, for which
see the Communication Server IP Configuration Reference manual:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B451/2.10
.32

Or http://preview.tinyurl.com/yr82hg

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:39:01 -0600, Michael Saraco
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I have worked on numerous systems that never had SYSALLDA setup in HCD or
ALLOCxx and never had a problem running TSO BATCH. The default for generic
for DASD is 3390 that has no ESOTERIC assigned to it.
I tired a Randy's job on Zos14 and a Zos17 and it ran fine without any
SYSALLDA in esotrics or a ALLOCxx and without adding the unit to the JCL.



SYSALLDA is a system defined ESOTERIC for DASD and is always present.  
You don't need to define in in HCD.  That is why almost all my JCL uses
it and didn't need to change when moving from shop to shop or from
3380 to 3390. 

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Steven Conway
forehead slap  Adding to the list of stuff I should have, but didn't, 
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I have worked on numerous systems that never had SYSALLDA setup in HCD or
ALLOCxx and never had a problem running TSO BATCH. The default for 
generic
for DASD is 3390 that has no ESOTERIC assigned to it.
I tired a Randy's job on Zos14 and a Zos17 and it ran fine without any
SYSALLDA in esotrics or a ALLOCxx and without adding the unit to the JCL.



SYSALLDA is a system defined ESOTERIC for DASD and is always present. 
You don't need to define in in HCD.  That is why almost all my JCL uses
it and didn't need to change when moving from shop to shop or from
3380 to 3390. 

Mark
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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Richards, Robert B.
If you think I am going to cast the first stone this topic grin

Let's just say I resemble that remark!

Bob

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Michael Saraco
That's right  SYSALLDA is a system defined ESOTERIC my bad.





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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:39:01 -0600, Michael Saraco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have worked on numerous systems that never had SYSALLDA setup in HCD or
ALLOCxx and never had a problem running TSO BATCH. The default for 
generic
for DASD is 3390 that has no ESOTERIC assigned to it.
I tired a Randy's job on Zos14 and a Zos17 and it ran fine without any
SYSALLDA in esotrics or a ALLOCxx and without adding the unit to the JCL.



SYSALLDA is a system defined ESOTERIC for DASD and is always present. 
You don't need to define in in HCD.  That is why almost all my JCL uses
it and didn't need to change when moving from shop to shop or from
3380 to 3390. 

Mark
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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Steven Conway
:-)

See you in Orlando, Bob.


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If you think I am going to cast the first stone this topic grin

Let's just say I resemble that remark!

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Unfortunately, you won't see me there. Jim will be though.

Bob


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:-)

See you in Orlando, Bob.


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Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-22 Thread Gerhard Adam

   Yes , it is the question of the communication with Linux and NT people.
I wanted to explain to my collegues , why the 0.5 % constant CPU usage for 
an idle server is a matter in a large  z/OS system.
An  argument would be,  if I could say: in a week it is nearly an hour, 
and an hour CPU in a large system is about  ... $ or ... Euro.


A much bigger question is whether the Linux and NT people have the ability 
to sustain 100% utilization and still meet performance objectives.


Until that point is understood, maximizing the usage of z/series will be 
completely foreign to them.


One other point to consider, is that the argument you're making about how 
expensive 0.5% utilization is, will actually backfire since it creates the 
impression that the mainframe is unnecessarily expensive.


This also presumes that the Linux/NT people have an understanding about what 
constitutes 0.5% usage on a z/series versus their respective platforms.


Adam 


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NY Metro NaSPA Chapter Meeting: Tuesday 4 March, 2008, NYC

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Nelson
The next NY Metro NaSPA Chapter meeting is being held on Tuesday, 4 March 
2008, 10AM until 4PM in room 1219 at the IBM Building at 590 Madison 
Avenue in NYC. The sessions that are on the agenda are: 

The z/OS V1R9 Goody Bag, Bob Rogers, z/OS Designer/Philosopher:  This 
session covers some of the goodies that have been included in the BCP and 
related elements of z/OS in the most recent releases. Topics include 
supporting up to 4 Terabytes of real storage, enhancements to GRS for 
availability and scaling, Workload Manager (WLM) and SDSF enhancements for 
IBM System z Application Assist Processor (zAAP) engines, and other 
important items found in z/OS 1.9 or elsewhere. 

Getting Started with Message Flood Automation, Kevin Kelley, z/OS Core 
Components Development: Message Flood Automation is a new function within 
z/OS Console support. It was introduced in November 2006 in APAR OA17514 
for z/OS R6, R7 and R8. It was made part of the z/OS base in z/OS R9. 
Message Flood Automation is designed to protect z/OS systems from message 
floods caused by failing devices and errant programs. This presentation 
will provide an overview of Message Flood Automation and provide rationale 
for why you might want to use it. The speaker is one of the creators of 
Message Flood Automation and a long-time designer of z/OS console support.

Presenting the z/OS LDAP Server, Jon Furminger, z/OS LDAP Development: 
In the first part of this presentation we'll look at the basic elements of 
the LDAP protocol, and how z/OS LDAP authenticates users and controls 
access to the information in the z/OS LDAP directories. In the second 
part, we will describe the many advantages of using LDAP on z/OS.

Building Skills for the Mainframe Community, Don Resnik and Kathy 
Pfeiffer, System z IBM Academic Initiative: Who's going to replace you? 
Where are the next generation mainframe experts coming from?  Come listen 
to the Program Managers of the IBM Academic Initiative, System z talk 
about a program that started with 24 schools in 2004 and has recently 
surpassed 400 schools participating.  Many of the aspects of this program 
can be used in your business.

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The meeting is free to all attendees and open to non-NaSPA members. 

   - Mark

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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread Mark Jacobs
David Eisenberg wrote:
 Anyone,

 I'm just getting familiar with the RACROUTE macro. I have a working example 
 of the macro with REQUEST=AUTH that generates a violation when 
 appropriate.

 My question is: is there a way to interrogate RACF (presumably via the 
 RACROUTE macro) to simply *ask* whether or not a particular user has read 
 or write access to a dataset, but without actually issuing a violation if the 
 user is unauthorized? All I want to do is get a yea or nay answer (via R15, I 
 assume), then proceed accordingly and programmatically.

 I hope this makes sense... thank you!

 David


   

LOG=NOFAIL on the macro call?

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Re: PDS dir block - 256 bytes

2008-02-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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The text is from DFSMS Using Data Sets.

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Re: Price of CPU seconds

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Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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 In the latest SDSF, SYSID value is carried across LPARs in the plex
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Doesn't that require MQ Series?
 
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Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread David Eisenberg
Anyone,

I'm just getting familiar with the RACROUTE macro. I have a working example 
of the macro with REQUEST=AUTH that generates a violation when 
appropriate.

My question is: is there a way to interrogate RACF (presumably via the 
RACROUTE macro) to simply *ask* whether or not a particular user has read 
or write access to a dataset, but without actually issuing a violation if the 
user is unauthorized? All I want to do is get a yea or nay answer (via R15, I 
assume), then proceed accordingly and programmatically.

I hope this makes sense... thank you!

David

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Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-22 Thread Ben Alford
Ron mentioned that DSORG would be set to PO or VS, with whatever is left
over, is PS. Not true.
There might still be a few folks allocating DSORG=DA files too.
Old PL/I and very Old COBOL supported this DSORG and programs written
in these languages could still be around. HLASM still supports DSORG=DA.

Ben Alford Enterprise Systems Programming
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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
 
 
 David Eisenberg wrote:
  Anyone,
 
  I'm just getting familiar with the RACROUTE macro. I have a 
 working example 
  of the macro with REQUEST=AUTH that generates a violation when 
  appropriate.
 
  My question is: is there a way to interrogate RACF 
 (presumably via the 
  RACROUTE macro) to simply *ask* whether or not a particular 
 user has read 
  or write access to a dataset, but without actually issuing 
 a violation if the 
  user is unauthorized? All I want to do is get a yea or nay 
 answer (via R15, I 
  assume), then proceed accordingly and programmatically.
 
  I hope this makes sense... thank you!
 
  David
 
 

 
 LOG=NOFAIL on the macro call?
 
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I think that LOG=NONE might be better. That way, successful access is
not logged either (in the case where the resource or user is AUDIT'ed).
I'd also use USER= to specify the userid for 3rd party access.

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Since you can sign on from Linux you obviously have physical
connectivity.  Can you ping the site from zOS to verify logical
connectivity (to eliminate problems in your TCPIP.PROFILE data, e.g.).

Does sftp not support the NETRC convention the way ftp does which allows
a batch job to connect without user intervention.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency
which has formerly received a tape from us.  They have set up an sftp
server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us
to use.  I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest
hosted on our mainframe but I have not so far been able to sign on from
z/OS.  

It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO.
Presumably, we should be able to start sshd and sign on from a client
session, but that entails some security work which has not been
performed.  (Given the workload on our security guy, I don't look for it
any time soon, either.)  This makes testing and experimenting slow.

Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run
under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated.  If
I am reading the correct information, though, it is not possible to do
this in batch mode using ID/password authentication.  Can anyone say
whether this is correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote server to
add our keys to their setup?  

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Re: SMP/E PTF REWORK; RECEIVE, APPLY, and ACCEPT

2008-02-22 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
But you probably never ACCEPTed the USERMOD either.  What will happen
when the January version of the PTF has been APPLYd and ACCEPTed (as
mentioned in the OP), the February version has been APPLYd, and the user
tries to RESTORE it.  Once a SYSMOD has been ACCEPTed, its number should
be retired.

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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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I thought the whole idea of using REWORK was so you could reapply a
usermod that has info that changes every now and then so that you
wouldn't have to change the usermod number every time.  When I was at
PH Mining, I had one usermod for CA7 that changed every time we added a
dataset to the dataset trigger table.  That worked very well to just
make change to the usermod, receive it, and reapply it with REWORK.  I
agree that if you are a company issuing SMP maintained software, that
you should SUP the bad PTF instead of changing it and reissuing it.  

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Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

2008-02-22 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Default units are defined in many different places.  PARMLIB(ALLOCxx)
and SMS have already been mentioned.  There is also the TSO segment in
your RACF profile.  It would not surprise me if there are others.  If
you knew which one was being used in this situation, you could check it
against the volume.

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Subject: Re: ZOS Upgrade Issue

I added the unit(3390) parm to my allocate and it ran ok.
I still haven't discovered why I'm getting INELIGIBLE DEVICE without the
unit parm. 
Thank you for your suggestions,

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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread Gregory, Gary G
Another way is to issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=EXTRACT and specify the UACC
and/or USERACS fields on the extract FIELDS parameter list.

Refer to the RACROUTE Macro Reference appendix-B.

That's what we did on last year when we developed the SAF Interface for
CA Tape Encryption.  (Of course, if I'm wrong I'll let Russ bail me
out). 

Regards,

Gary 
 
 David Eisenberg wrote:
  Anyone,
 
  I'm just getting familiar with the RACROUTE macro. I have a 
 working example 
  of the macro with REQUEST=AUTH that generates a violation when 
  appropriate.
 
  My question is: is there a way to interrogate RACF 
 (presumably via the 
  RACROUTE macro) to simply *ask* whether or not a particular 
 user has read 
  or write access to a dataset, but without actually issuing 
 a violation if the 
  user is unauthorized? All I want to do is get a yea or nay 
 answer (via R15, I 
  assume), then proceed accordingly and programmatically.
 
  I hope this makes sense... thank you!
 
  David
 
 

 
 LOG=NOFAIL on the macro call?
 
 -- 
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I think that LOG=NONE might be better. That way, successful access is
not logged either (in the case where the resource or user is AUDIT'ed).
I'd also use USER= to specify the userid for 3rd party access.

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Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
   At my shop, I'd say they deserved what they get :) 

I took the other direction on this. When the extended stuff became
available, we were DASD poor and frequent x37. I made striped and
extended the default for most everything and my ACS routines grant
exceptions where required. So I can use DSORG = 'PO' use non-extended
dataclass.

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Ron mentioned that DSORG would be set to PO or VS, with whatever is left
over, is PS. Not true.
There might still be a few folks allocating DSORG=DA files too.
Old PL/I and very Old COBOL supported this DSORG and programs written
in these languages could still be around. HLASM still supports DSORG=DA.

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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread David Eisenberg
Another way is to issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=EXTRACT
LOG=NONE

Am I correct when I say that both of these solutions require APF-authorization 
(or similar)? Might there be a way that would not require this?

I wouldn't have thought that there would be a security issue with merely 
interrogating an authorization level, but perhaps I'm wrong...

David

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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread R.S.

Gregory, Gary G wrote:

Another way is to issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=EXTRACT and specify the UACC
and/or USERACS fields on the extract FIELDS parameter list.


Does it mean to check the profile, not the access authorities ?
IMHO bad idea. Access can be granted i.e. due to OPERATIONS attribute or 
WARNING. Checking UACC and ACL changes the logic. RACF guys would hate it.


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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread McKown, John
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 Another way is to issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=EXTRACT
 LOG=NONE
 
 Am I correct when I say that both of these solutions require 
 APF-authorization 
 (or similar)? Might there be a way that would not require this?
 
 I wouldn't have thought that there would be a security issue 
 with merely 
 interrogating an authorization level, but perhaps I'm wrong...
 
 David

Yes, almost any RACROUTE function requires APF authorization. It could
be considered a security breach otherwise because if anybody could do
it, they could possibly find which RACF ids to target in order to get
the access that they want to specific resources, rather than attempting
to crack random IDs and hope for access.

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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:21:29 -0500, Gregory, Gary G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another way is to issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=EXTRACT and specify the UACC
and/or USERACS fields on the extract FIELDS parameter list.

Refer to the RACROUTE Macro Reference appendix-B.

That's what we did on last year when we developed the SAF Interface for
CA Tape Encryption.  (Of course, if I'm wrong I'll let Russ bail me
out).


The obvious disadvantages of that approach, of course, are that it burdens
you with processing groups to determine the users they contain, and of
processing conditional access lists to see if they apply.  And it bypasses
GLOBAL processing, which an administrator may have decided to use to grant
accesses.  And you can get the wrong answer for general resource classes (if
they're RACLISTed and you make the request the wrong way) or for data sets
(if their generic profile is already in storage but the profile has changed
on the database).

But other than that, and anything else I've forgotten at the moment, and
anything we add in the future, I suppose it's an approach you could use.  I
wouldn't, though.

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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:09:26 -0600, David Eisenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm just getting familiar with the RACROUTE macro. I have a working example
of the macro with REQUEST=AUTH that generates a violation when
appropriate.

My question is: is there a way to interrogate RACF (presumably via the
RACROUTE macro) to simply *ask* whether or not a particular user has read
or write access to a dataset, but without actually issuing a violation if the
user is unauthorized? All I want to do is get a yea or nay answer (via R15, I
assume), then proceed accordingly and programmatically.


Running APF-authorized you could specify LOG=NONE.

However, in most cases I recommend simply letting the system make the
appropriate checks and, if necessary, trapping any ABENDs that result. 
Otherwise there are a lot of odd conditions you may need to deal with, and
that can cause you to get the wrong answer and act incorrectly.  You might
think that the user will have access, and then the request might fail
anyway.   Or you might think the user does not have access, and refuse the
action, when it would have worked if you had actually tried it.

Of course, without knowing more about what your program does I can't say for
that you'll have those problems.  Still, I generally recommend just letting
the system make the decisions.

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CA-SYSVIEW

2008-02-22 Thread Grine, Janet [GCG-PFS]
I am researching a product called CA-SYSVIEW.  Can anyone offer any
opinions on this product?  I did notice that Pat O'Keefe seems to like
it.  Anyone else?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Janet (Jill) Grine

 

 

 


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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Danner
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:17:13 -0500, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run
under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated.  If
I am reading the correct information, though, it is not possible to do
this in batch mode using ID/password authentication.  Can anyone say
whether this is correct?  Am I going to need to get the remote server to
add our keys to their setup?

Yes, you are correct.  You have to run ssh-keygen on the local system (to 
generate public and private keys) and have the admin on the remote server 
load the public key to his authorized_keys directory.  This is all discussed in 
Chapter 5 (see p. 30-31) of z/OS IBM Ported Tools for z/OS User’s Guide 
(SA22-7985-04).

HTH...Dave

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Re: CA-SYSVIEW

2008-02-22 Thread Gary Green
I use it and it's not bad...  Beyond that, we would need to get into
specifics.

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Re: CA-SYSVIEW

2008-02-22 Thread Gerhard Adam

Janet:

Please contact me offline and I can give you a bit of information regarding 
this product.


Gerhard Adam

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NOHTML INDEX

2008-02-22 Thread Sail Kim
 

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Re: Questions Regarding Disk Cache

2008-02-22 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi Ron:
 
I dumped a CA split on our system and the old CIs that were moved to  the 
new CA were cleared to low values in the original CA formatted with  the 
appropriate CIDF.  So,I believe that these empty CIs will occupy  space in the 
disk 
cache as they are written by VSAM.  Based on the  issue you raised that the 
hardware vendor recognizes the sequential bias in  the command, do the 
pre-formatted CIs get read into the cache as the  hardware tries to anticipate 
the data 
required when reading the file  sequentially?
 
Regards,
Gene   
 
 
In a message dated 2/21/2008 3:18:10 A.M. SA Western Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Gene,

I have not heard of a CA being cleared out. My old notes  say that all CI
with a key higher than the mid-point sequence set record  are written to the
new CA. The space in the old CA is now marked free - it  is not formatted.

If you are using CA of 1 CYL then it is unlikely to  upset the pre-fetch
algorithm in most storage. The sequence set within a CA  are in order and
with default buffering (BUFND=2) or SEQ bias (half CYL)  you will get
sequential cache hits.

That assumes that your disk  vendor recognizes the Seq bit. This is not the
case for all vendors. A  heavily fragmented KSDS may not have pre-fetch
detected with a large BUFND  because it jumps out of the monitored area
before enough seq IO takes  place.

It is likely that the CI split that instigated the CA split will  be a DFW
hit because the old tracks are still in cache - but that's a  nit.

Ron

BTW my notes make a post of mine about the duration of  CA splits wrong. It
is only halve IO cost I estimated. I should have check  first. Where's my
Ronald K. Ferguson bible when I need it?

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  Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Questions Regarding Disk Cache
 
  Hi:
 
 These were a few questions posted on another topic in  CICS-L for which
 no
 reply was received.  The topic was  CI/CA splits and I asked the
 following
 questions, which were  embedded in the response:
 
 1) Two of the processes of  completing a CA split is to format the  new
 CA and
 clear  out the moved data CIs from the original CA.  Do the  empty  CIs
 used
 to clear or format the CAs occupy space in the disk  cache?
 2) When reading a file sequentially that has CA splits caused  by direct
 insertions (e.g., 50% free space), are the empty CIs that  were created
 as a
 result of the CA splits read into the disk  cache by the hardware's
 read-ahead
 mechanism once it  determines that the file is being processed
 sequentially?
  
 Regards,
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Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?

2008-02-22 Thread Gregory, Gary G
It's not something that we used to determine whether someone had authority but 
more of a logging mechanism.

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Gregory, Gary G wrote:
 Another way is to issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=EXTRACT and specify the UACC
 and/or USERACS fields on the extract FIELDS parameter list.

Does it mean to check the profile, not the access authorities ?
IMHO bad idea. Access can be granted i.e. due to OPERATIONS attribute or 
WARNING. Checking UACC and ACL changes the logic. RACF guys would hate it.

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Re: NOHTML INDEX

2008-02-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
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Lurkers

2008-02-22 Thread Shane
Ya just never know who is (still) lurking ...
Ron, you should pick a better climate for year-round sailing. Say the
Whitsundays ...

Shane ...

On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 09:10 -0800, Ron Ferguson wrote:

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Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Barry
I believe shared ISPF profile is the case.  This behavior started in
z/OS 1.8 with the advent of the SDSF address space.

Thanks for the tip about using SYSID with no operands.

db 

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:58:10 -0500, Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the latest SDSF, SYSID value is carried across LPARs in the plex 
regardless of whether they are in a MAS.  Not sure about the 
installation and customization, but I now have to use SYSID on every 
system, even though none share a SPOOL.


Are you using a shared ISPF profile data set?   If you use SYSID without
any operands, it defaults to the current sysid.  Even if you share your
ISPF profile this will allow you to view the syslog of the system you
are logged onto without having to issue the SYSID command ever.  That is
the way it's always worked... unless something changed in 1.9 that
I am not aware of.   What has changed is the SYSID ? display in recent
releases.  It used to just show the value of the setting.  Now it will
display all the systems defined in the MASDEF (whether they exist or
not) with the system you are logged onto being enclosed in parenthesis.
In order to tell the current setting, you have to look at the title
line:

SDSF SYSLOG   397.101   IPO1 IPO2  11/15/2000  4W  
  |   | |   |  |   
Job   | |   |Outstandin
number| |   |WTORs 
  | |Date of   
   Data set |SYSLOG
   number   |data set  
|  
 JES2 system ID of the 
 log currently shown (IPO1), and   
 JES2 system ID of the system  
 the user is logged on to (IPO2)   

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Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-22 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
The SDSF Server, which is what runs in the SDSF address space, has been
around since at least OS/390 2.10.

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are
looking at?

I believe shared ISPF profile is the case.  This behavior started in
z/OS 1.8 with the advent of the SDSF address space.

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Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Barry
I should have said, when we upgraded to z/OS 1.8.  That must have been
when we started using the SDSF server.

Thanks again,
db 

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 5:19 PM
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looking at?

The SDSF Server, which is what runs in the SDSF address space, has been
around since at least OS/390 2.10.

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are
looking at?

I believe shared ISPF profile is the case.  This behavior started in
z/OS 1.8 with the advent of the SDSF address space.

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Kirk Wolf
Bill,

This is a nice example, but IMO it is not ideal in several ways:

1) It relies on copying datasets to temporary HFS files
2) If you ran more than one job at a time, you could have problems
serializing access to the temporary HFS files that you are creating
3) Its more complicated than it needs to be, and might be a maintenance
problem if you had lots of these kinds of jobs.

Some of these problems can be solved by using our free DTLSPAWN utility (a
better BPXBATCH),
which allows you to run a Unix shell from DD STDIN, the way it should be:

//EX1 EXEC DTLSPAWN
//STDINDD *
export DISPLAY=FOO
export SSH_ASKPASS=$HOME/.ssh/kirkpass.sh

ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no \
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /path/to/remote.file |
   todsn //DD:DOWNLOAD
/*
//DOWNLOAD DD DSN=DOWNLOAD,DISP=(NEW,DELETE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80)
//

Notes:
1) To answer one of the other questions in this thread: the ssh option
StrictHostKeyChecking=no causes the remote host's key to automatically be
added to known_hosts if it doesn't already exist.  See the man page for
ssh_config for more information.

2) I used /bin/cat with ssh so that I could transfer the data and pipe it to
todsn.
The IBM version of sftp doesn't support datasets, or even pipes or fifos.
Using ssh and cat only works if the data is ASCII text, since the ssh
command will automatically translate ascii-ebcdic.

3) You can easily put this in a reusable PROC, passing environment variables
in PARM= or STDENV DD.

4) Our free Co:Z toolkit includes all of these tools, and if you also
install it on the remote system you can significantly extend the capabilites
of running plain ssh or sftp.

Regards,
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Miller, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 We do batch ssh transfers everyday using IBM's Ported Tools, here is a
 sample batch job:

 //**
 //* STEPS TO EXECUTE SFTP USING PARAMETERS DYNAMICALLY CREATED IN PDLSDG
 //**
 //PDLSDI10 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
 //SYSPRINT DD  DUMMY
 //SYSINDD  DUMMY
 //SYSUT2   DD  PATH='/tmp/sftp',FILEDATA=TEXT,
 // PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),PATHMODE=SIRWXU
 //SYSUT1   DD  DSN=SFTPPARM,DISP=SHR
 //*
 //PDLSDI15 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
 // PARM='SH sftp -b /tmp/sftp -F /gwc/ssh/config
 //   [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 //STDOUT   DD  PATH='/tmp/SYSUID..STDOUT',
 // PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),PATHMODE=SIRWXU
 //STDENV   DD  DSN=FGC.GC.LOS.TMPR.SFTP.PWPARMS,DISP=SHR
 //*
 //PDLSDI20 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
 //SYSPRINT DD  DUMMY
 //SYSINDD  DUMMY
 //SYSUT1   DD  PATH='/tmp/SYSUID..STDOUT',
 // FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTS=ORDONLY,PATHDISP=DELETE,
 // RECFM=VB,LRECL=255,BLKSIZE=27998
 //DELETE   DD  PATH='/tmp/sftp',
 // FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTS=ORDONLY,PATHDISP=DELETE,
 // RECFM=VB,LRECL=255,BLKSIZE=27998
 //SYSUT2   DD  SYSOUT=*
 //*

 Here is a sample for
 Contents of dataset FGC.GC.LOS.TMPR.SFTP.PWPARMS
 DISPLAY=FOO
 SSH_ASKPASS=/etc/ssh/ussfile.psw.sh

 Here is a sample for the get parms:
 lcd ..
 ascii
 get GWCC.ACK.20080221  /tmp/pmierr.txt
 rename GWCC.ACK.20080221  GWCC.ACK.20080221.PRC
 !cp /tmp/pmierr.txt  //'FGC.GC.LOS.PROD.PMI.ERROR.FILE'
 !rm /tmp/pmierr.txt
 rm GWCC.ACK.200712*
 quit

 I also have manuals, please contact me and I will send you a copy of the
 IBM Ported Tools manauls.
 And some other doc if you want it.

 Also open an ETR with IBM and they were very helpful getting this to
 work.

 Bill Miller
 Great West Casualty Company
 1100 West 29th Street
 South Sioux City, NE 68776
 Phone: 402-494-7354
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Jon Brock
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:17 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

 WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency
 which has formerly received a tape from us.  They have set up an sftp
 server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us
 to use.  I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest
 hosted on our mainframe but I have not so far been able to sign on from
 z/OS.

 It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO.
 Presumably, we should be able to start sshd and sign on from a client
 session, but that entails some security work which has not been
 performed.  (Given the workload on our security guy, I don't look for it
 any time soon, either.)  This makes testing and experimenting slow.

 Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run
 under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated.  If
 I am reading the correct information, though, it is not 

IKEYMAN problem

2008-02-22 Thread R.S.
(Disclaimer: the problem I describe exist on Windows PC, but this is IBM 
software, dedicated to connect to a mainframe)




I'm trying to run iKeyman utility on my Windows XP PC. The utility was 
installed as a part of Personal Communications (PCOMM) 5.8 (20070515 S).


Ikeyman.exe doesn't work. It end with the following message:
class not found: com/ibm/gsk/ikeyman/Ikeyman
After some invsetigation I added two path entries to CLASSPATH variable 
(cfwk.zip and gsk7cls.jar). No effect.


However I can run start ikeyman using the following command:
java  com.ibm.gsk.ikeyman.Ikeyman

Ikeyman launches, I can check the version, but it sometimes fails when I 
try to open existing kdb file.



Q: I believe it is known issue. What should I do to make it working ?
Any clue? Maybe some link?


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Re: Lurkers (OT Friday I guess)

2008-02-22 Thread George Fogg
 Ya just never know who is (still) lurking ...
 Ron, you should pick a better climate for year-round sailing. Say the
 Whitsundays ...

Sailing? What about sailing--expecially in the Whitsundays? Too far from
Seattle but love to charter a boat there someday...
George Fogg

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Re: z10 presentation on 26 Feb

2008-02-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


... tap out at around 27,000 mips

IBM leaks details of new z10 Enterprise Class mainframe
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1301967,00.html

Other features of the new big iron new offering include the following:

* a quad-core mainframe central processor previously called the z6;
* fixed hardware storage area (HSA) of 16 GB, so users won't have to
  sacrifice memory for HSA any longer;
* an integrated hardware decimal floating-point processor to aid with
  financial and enterprise resource planning applications;
* a reduction in power-on reset (POR), which could enable the ability to
  reassign additional logical partition (LPAR) resources without
  compromising application performance; and
* a feature called HiperDispatch, the details of which are unclear.

... snip ...

it has been 40yrs since (virtual machine) cp67 was announced at the
spring share in houston.

i was undergraduate at university when three people had come out from
the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech

to install cp67 the last week of jan68. as a result, i got asked to go
to houston and participate in the announcement.

share is next week in orlando
http://www.share.org/events/Orlando/index.cfm

one of next week's (two) themes is virtualization:
http://www.share.org/events/Orlando/second_postcard.cfm#virtual

Featured sessions covering network and storage virtualization as well as
System z virtualization include:

* IBM Transformation: Major IT Consolidation Initiative for Project Big Green
* Using Virtualization to Consolidate Servers
* The Role of Storage Virtualization in Enterprise Class Computing Using
  VSM from Sun
* Preparing to Successfully Deploy and Exploit Virtualization
* Data Centers of the Future: The Impact of High Density Computing
* The Role of Storage Virtualization in Enterprise Computing
* Introduction to Network Virtualization
* Details of SAN Virtualization – Today and in the Future
* Preparing to Successfully Deploy and Execute Virtualization
* IBM Transformation: Major IT Consolidation Initiative

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Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Miller, Bill
Thanks Kirk I will try this.

Bill 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 4:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

Bill,

This is a nice example, but IMO it is not ideal in several ways:

1) It relies on copying datasets to temporary HFS files
2) If you ran more than one job at a time, you could have problems
serializing access to the temporary HFS files that you are creating
3) Its more complicated than it needs to be, and might be a maintenance
problem if you had lots of these kinds of jobs.

Some of these problems can be solved by using our free DTLSPAWN utility
(a better BPXBATCH), which allows you to run a Unix shell from DD STDIN,
the way it should be:

//EX1 EXEC DTLSPAWN
//STDINDD *
export DISPLAY=FOO
export SSH_ASKPASS=$HOME/.ssh/kirkpass.sh

ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no \
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat /path/to/remote.file |
   todsn //DD:DOWNLOAD
/*
//DOWNLOAD DD DSN=DOWNLOAD,DISP=(NEW,DELETE),
//DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80)
//

Notes:
1) To answer one of the other questions in this thread: the ssh option
StrictHostKeyChecking=no causes the remote host's key to automatically
be added to known_hosts if it doesn't already exist.  See the man page
for ssh_config for more information.

2) I used /bin/cat with ssh so that I could transfer the data and pipe
it to todsn.
The IBM version of sftp doesn't support datasets, or even pipes or
fifos.
Using ssh and cat only works if the data is ASCII text, since the ssh
command will automatically translate ascii-ebcdic.

3) You can easily put this in a reusable PROC, passing environment
variables in PARM= or STDENV DD.

4) Our free Co:Z toolkit includes all of these tools, and if you also
install it on the remote system you can significantly extend the
capabilites of running plain ssh or sftp.

Regards,
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com


On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Miller, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 We do batch ssh transfers everyday using IBM's Ported Tools, here is a

 sample batch job:

 //
 **
 //* STEPS TO EXECUTE SFTP USING PARAMETERS DYNAMICALLY CREATED IN 
 PDLSDG

//**
 //PDLSDI10 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
 //SYSPRINT DD  DUMMY
 //SYSINDD  DUMMY
 //SYSUT2   DD  PATH='/tmp/sftp',FILEDATA=TEXT,
 // PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),PATHMODE=SIRWXU
 //SYSUT1   DD  DSN=SFTPPARM,DISP=SHR
 //*
 //PDLSDI15 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,
 // PARM='SH sftp -b /tmp/sftp -F /gwc/ssh/config
 //   [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 //STDOUT   DD  PATH='/tmp/SYSUID..STDOUT',
 // PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT,OTRUNC),PATHMODE=SIRWXU
 //STDENV   DD  DSN=FGC.GC.LOS.TMPR.SFTP.PWPARMS,DISP=SHR
 //*
 //PDLSDI20 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
 //SYSPRINT DD  DUMMY
 //SYSINDD  DUMMY
 //SYSUT1   DD  PATH='/tmp/SYSUID..STDOUT',
 // FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTS=ORDONLY,PATHDISP=DELETE,
 // RECFM=VB,LRECL=255,BLKSIZE=27998
 //DELETE   DD  PATH='/tmp/sftp',
 // FILEDATA=TEXT,PATHOPTS=ORDONLY,PATHDISP=DELETE,
 // RECFM=VB,LRECL=255,BLKSIZE=27998
 //SYSUT2   DD  SYSOUT=*
 //*

 Here is a sample for
 Contents of dataset FGC.GC.LOS.TMPR.SFTP.PWPARMS DISPLAY=FOO 
 SSH_ASKPASS=/etc/ssh/ussfile.psw.sh

 Here is a sample for the get parms:
 lcd ..
 ascii
 get GWCC.ACK.20080221  /tmp/pmierr.txt rename GWCC.ACK.20080221  
 GWCC.ACK.20080221.PRC !cp /tmp/pmierr.txt  
 //'FGC.GC.LOS.PROD.PMI.ERROR.FILE'
 !rm /tmp/pmierr.txt
 rm GWCC.ACK.200712*
 quit

 I also have manuals, please contact me and I will send you a copy of 
 the IBM Ported Tools manauls.
 And some other doc if you want it.

 Also open an ETR with IBM and they were very helpful getting this to 
 work.

 Bill Miller
 Great West Casualty Company
 1100 West 29th Street
 South Sioux City, NE 68776
 Phone: 402-494-7354
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Jon Brock
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:17 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

 WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency 
 which has formerly received a tape from us.  They have set up an sftp 
 server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us

 to use.  I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux 
 guest hosted on our mainframe but I have not so far been able to sign 
 on from z/OS.

 It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO.
 Presumably, we should be able to start sshd and sign on from a client 
 session, but that entails some security work which has not been 
 performed.  (Given the workload on our security guy, I don't look for 

z10 - beans spilled?

2008-02-22 Thread Aaron Walker
http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/02/22/204222.shtml

http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid80_gci1301967,00.html

Big Blue inadvertently revealed details about its new z10 Enterprise Class
mainframe set to launch on Feb. 26, as well as details on z/OS v1.10, a new
version of the mainframe OS due out in September. 'According to an internal
IBM document obtained by SearchDataCenter.com, the z10 Enterprise Class will
come in five different models and feature 64-way chips, compared with the
54-way z9 mainframes and earlier 32-way models. In a conference call last
month, IBM CFO Mark Loughridge told investors that the z10 would have 50%
more capacity, which indicates that it will probably tap out at around
27,000 million instructions per second (MIPS) at the top end, compared with
about 18,000 MIPS on the previous z9 Enterprise Class.'

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Re: IKEYMAN problem

2008-02-22 Thread Rob Schramm
Try

http://ev11.evenue.net/manual/ibm/9atikeyu.htm

There are various indicators that CLASSPATH must be set properly in order 
for it to work.

-Rob Schramm

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Re: CA-SYSVIEW

2008-02-22 Thread Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz
I am the Product Manager for CA SYSVIEW, so I'd be happy to offer
any information you'd like- including what it can do now, and the
futures roadmap.  You can contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are at SHARE next week, stop by
our booth for a personal demo.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gerhard Adam
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 SYSN 01:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CA-SYSVIEW

Janet:

Please contact me offline and I can give you a bit of information regarding 
this product.

Gerhard Adam

- Original Message - 
From: Grine, Janet [GCG-PFS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:06 PM
Subject: CA-SYSVIEW


I am researching a product called CA-SYSVIEW.  Can anyone offer any
opinions on this product?  I did notice that Pat O'Keefe seems to like
it.  Anyone else?



Thanks in advance,



Janet (Jill) Grine








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Re: CA-SYSVIEW

2008-02-22 Thread Scott Barry
I thought that CA staff and management are no longer permitted to discuss 
product futures.  At last CA World, each CA-presented session had not one 
but two DISCLAIMER foils

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: CA-SYSVIEW

2008-02-22 Thread Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz
Our Roadmaps are public.  You can find them on SupportConnect for 
all Solutions.  The disclaimers are always there mainly because
Roadmaps are an evolutionary thing.  Most new enhancements come
from Customers and Product Advisory Committees.  Don't misconstrue
futures as absolute features in a next release. But I am happy to
discus the Roadmap for SYSVIEW, and where I see the product going. 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Scott Barry
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 SYSN 05:33 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: CA-SYSVIEW

I thought that CA staff and management are no longer permitted to discuss 
product futures.  At last CA World, each CA-presented session had not one 
but two DISCLAIMER foils

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: CA-SYSVIEW

2008-02-22 Thread Scott Barry
I'm hearing good feedback at supported clients, where a CA SYSVIEW 
component is involved in a competitive replacement opportunity (overtaking 
another vendor's software product), most recently with MQ on z/OS.

Sincerely,

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: 3592 leader pins

2008-02-22 Thread Mike Baldwin
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:42:44 -0500, Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ANNSTORES.COM wrote:

We have been experiencing an increased failure rate of the leader pins on our 
3592 media, and I was wondering if anyone else was seeing this.  We only 
have a few hundred of these tapes, but around 10% are currently out of 
circulation due to this problem.  There is a repair kit for this problem, but 
it 
only has parts to repair 10 tapes, and we have been through several kits to 
date.  At a cost of $100 or so, this is a repair cost of over $10/cartridge, 
which might be OK if it were rare, but this seems a little too much for me.
 
We do not have the 3592 drives in an ATL, and I am curious whether the 
human factor may be to blame.
 
Has anyone else on the list seen a significant failure rate on these 
cartridges?  Is there any known cause for this?  Any way to prevent the 
problem?  Has anyone tried to take warranty action on this?

Hi Scott,

I contacted Fujifilm (manufacturer of 3592 cartridges), and here was the reply:

We have not received any reports of end-users having difficulties with our 
3592 tapes in Canada.  I had contacted our sister company in the USA for 
their perspective on the specifics provided in your e-mail.  Your details were 
sent to all of their tech support group and they reported the following. 

Leader-pin problems are VERY rare for 3592 and I would suspect that the user 
must have a drive problem.  If the drive is under warranty or a maintenance 
contract, I suggest having the drive vendor investigate and replace the drive.  
Cartridges being taken from the drive by human hand-extraction would not 
contribute to this problem; it can for DLT-4000 – DLT-8000 drives, but not for 
3592. 

If you have a user that is experiencing these problems I can have a specialist 
contact them directly to discuss further. 

---

Please let me know if you wish to be contacted by that specialist.

Regards,
Mike Baldwin
Cartagena Software Ltd.
www.cartagena.com

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