Re: Numeric TSO Userids

2008-07-22 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM

Gee, who in the first place decided to use numeric userids, possibly
supported by ACF2, but not by the rest of MVS? Sounds like allowing
Syncsort options and then return to DFSORT, or allow PDSFAST options and
then return to IEBCOPY or...

If you did already prefix the userid with an Alpha character, can't you
definitely change the userid to that prefixed value? It won't make any
difference for the datasets, only the users have to get used to their
'new' userid, which they already know from their datasets?

Kees.

"Mark Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Cross Posted to RACF-L and re posted to IBM Main
> 
> Could anybody offer any ideas at all in this area?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mark
>  
>


> **
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am in the middle of migrating a customer from ACF2 to RACF and have
> encountered a problem.
> 
> ACF2 supports the use of fully numeric TSO Userids.
> 
> The customer has an exit in place that forces all dataset allocations
to be
> prefixed with a Alpha character, getting around the dataset issues.
> 
> However, if I migrate them to RACF, TSO does NOT support a fully
numeric
> Userid.
> 
> I know this is not supported by IBM, but does anyone have any ideas
(TSO
> exit?), that I can use to support fully numeric TSO Userids.
> 
> The customer does not what to change the RACF Userids to start with an
alpha
> character for business/application reasons.
> 
> Any help gratefully received.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mark
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Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Yes, that's my understanding also, it's an HMC + z10 technical feature
issue related to loading (and reloading) speed.

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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
>   I checked on the z800 that we use for most of our system test
> dump reading, and SCCBSAIX is set, so it is probably
> the case that all IBM z/Architecture processors set SCCBSAIX.
> However, I prefer to stick with the architecturally 
> correct algorithm. 

Thanks - easy enough to stick a check in.

Shane ...

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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 07/23/2008 
01:58:31 AM:

> Jim, is it safe to assume SCCBSAIX is always valid ???. Has agreed with 
> SCCBSAI on the couple of systems I looked at.
> 
> Maybe Mark Z could add a couple of lines to IPLINFO (if not already 
there; 
> been a while since I pulled a new version).
> 
> Shane ...
> 
> > However, if you use SYS1.MACLIB(IHASCCB) to 
> > map the area pointed to by CVTSCPIN (CVT+340), then
> > SCCBSAI (or if it is zero, use SCCBSAIX) allows you to compute
> > the increment size.

  I checked on the z800 that we use for most of our system test
dump reading, and SCCBSAIX is set, so it is probably
the case that all IBM z/Architecture processors set SCCBSAIX.
However, I prefer to stick with the architecturally 
correct algorithm. 

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY

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Re: Numeric TSO Userids

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Wilson
All,

>From the research I have done I agree with Walt in that it¹s a TSO
restriction.

If you logon (Full screen mode) and enter a numeric Userid you get the not
valid message, press F1 and there is the message from TSO.

Hence, my thinking I may be able to get at the field in a TSO EXIT and
bypass the numeric check.

The fact that ACF2 supports it means it can be done and from what I am
seeing there are no issues with MVS commands, INTRDR, etc.

Looks like I go back to the manuals to see if I can figure this out.

Mark



On 23/07/2008 03:00, "Walt Farrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 7/22/2008 6:15 PM, Barry Schrager wrote:
>> > I agree -- HASP has nothing to do with this.  The 7 character limit was
>> > imposed because submitted jobs had the Userid as the first 7 characters
>> > and had to attach another character/digit to make the submitted jobname
>> > unique.
>> >
>> > It never occurred to us that you might have 7 digit Userids when we
>> > created ACF2.  That, it works, is a surprise to me.  I guess that by
>> > bypassing UADS, nobody checks -- but RACF obviously does.
>> >
> Interesting, Barry.  RACF doesn't check, and fully supports numeric user
> IDs.  It has to be a TSO/E restriction, and I'm pretty sure that the
> standard TSO/E logon command parsing (and full-screen validation) will
> reject a numeric user ID, so I always figured it was done with logon
> exits and/or replacement of the logon command when another security
> product does allow it.
> 
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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
Jim, is it safe to assume SCCBSAIX is always valid ???. Has agreed with 
SCCBSAI on the couple of systems I looked at.

Maybe Mark Z could add a couple of lines to IPLINFO (if not already there; 
been a while since I pulled a new version).

Shane ...

> However, if you use SYS1.MACLIB(IHASCCB) to 
> map the area pointed to by CVTSCPIN (CVT+340), then
> SCCBSAI (or if it is zero, use SCCBSAIX) allows you to compute
> the increment size.

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Re: Dump management

2008-07-22 Thread Barbara Nitz
>That is a minor benefit. 
Not to me, it isn't. To me this is a HUGE benefit. I am the one who is supposed 
to figure out why 'automation didn't work' during system shutdown, especially 
when the operator forced down Jes2 after he couldn't see the jobs/stcs that 
hadn't come down *before* JES. Or when they say 'automation didn't terminate'. 
Try to find out why when there is no syslog, no automation log, no joblog (the 
thing is started sub=mstr)

They are especially fond of saying 'the system doesn't come down' on the 
monoplexes (where we didn't have operlog) until I got so fed up that I forced 
the setup of operlog even on the monoplexes.

>The big benefit is having all the logs for the sysplex
>combined in one place when trying to diagnose a problem. 
*That* is considered a big drawback here! When I established operlog here, I 
got temporary update access to all ISPF profiles for the company to change the 
default log a in SDSF to log s to not 'irritate everybody'.

I admit that I go to syslog, too, when I have to check for a problem that I 
know is limited to one system, mostly when that system doesn't output a lot of 
lines. Scrolling past all the stuff from other systems that output a lot is 
tiresom. (And yes, I know about operlog viewer...) 

The thing that I really hate is that it also takes just about forever when I 
look into syslog - log s (even on the same system).

Barbara
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Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Tony Harminc
2008-07-22 Wayne Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now I realize that IBM has valid reasons for the limitation, but in my
> opinion, point 2 "You can run it on any System z10 machine" is more of a
> lowlight than a highlight.  Another example of IBM making things available
> at a low or no cost, but only to customers that have already spent millions
> of dollars.

Well I am not a lawyer, etc. etc. but as far as I can see the licence
agreement doesn't say you must run it on a z10 only. Perhaps there is
a genuine technical limitation, e.g. it uses some of the new
instructions or a new HMC interface, or maybe it specifically tests
for the right machine. Or maybe not. The only requirement I see in the
licence is that the machine must correctly implement the 64-bit z
instruction set, or words to that effect. The z10 would seem to be
more of an example of such than a requirement.

There is a requirement that if you run it on IFLs it be used only to
run Linux and its supporting applications. No big opportunity to
resurrect CMS application development on the cheap here...

Did I mention that I'm not a lawyer, or that treating my
interpretation as anything beyond speculation would be foolish?

Tony H.
I read the licence, but I didn't inha^Hdownload.

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Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Here is a quote from a post on the VM List from Les Geer of z/VM
Development:
"Why z10 only, it takes advantage of new support between the HMC and LPAR
which allows the load to be ~10 minutes as opposed to hours."


Wayne Driscoll
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If I recall correctly, it had do with a change in the HMC appliance to allow
an LPAR to "own" the DVD-RAM device.

Wayne Driscoll
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Wayne Driscoll wrote:
> Now I realize that IBM has valid reasons for the limitation ...

What are the valid reasons? Why not z9 as well?

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Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Wayne Driscoll
If I recall correctly, it had do with a change in the HMC appliance to allow
an LPAR to "own" the DVD-RAM device.

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Wayne Driscoll wrote:
> Now I realize that IBM has valid reasons for the limitation ...

What are the valid reasons? Why not z9 as well?

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Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> Now I realize that IBM has valid reasons for the limitation ...

>What are the valid reasons? Why not z9 as well?

It should be available for any supported processor that runs the OS!

IBM always comes up short on this kind of stuff!

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Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Wayne Driscoll wrote:

Now I realize that IBM has valid reasons for the limitation ...


What are the valid reasons? Why not z9 as well?

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Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Now I realize that IBM has valid reasons for the limitation, but in my
opinion, point 2 "You can run it on any System z10 machine" is more of a
lowlight than a highlight.  Another example of IBM making things available
at a low or no cost, but only to customers that have already spent millions
of dollars.  

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IBM has posted details and the download for the z/VM 5.3 Evaluation Edition
here:

http://www.vm.ibm.com/eval/

Here are the highlights:

1. You can download z/VM 5.3 EE at no charge.
2. You can run it on any System z10 machine..
3. There's no capacity cap, and you can run it on either/both CPs and IFLs,
on any number of machines.
4. You're licensed for 90 days, but there's no "time bomb" that would cause
z/VM EE to stop.
5. No support -- you cannot open PMRs, etc. -- nor can you apply PTFs.
(It's not for production use.).
6. It's got a fairly rich set of z/VM options included (e.g. the
Performance Toolkit).

If you download z/VM, you'll need to burn it to a DVD-RAM disc, so make
sure you can do that on your PC. Many DVD burners support DVD-RAM discs,
but not all. If yours doesn't, fortunately DVD-RAM burners are cheap and
plentiful.

Anyway, for those of you who'd like to give z/VM a try -- for running Linux
or any other mainframe operating system -- you're good to go. The files are
available for download now. Enjoy.

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z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available

2008-07-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM has posted details and the download for the z/VM 5.3 Evaluation Edition
here:

http://www.vm.ibm.com/eval/

Here are the highlights:

1. You can download z/VM 5.3 EE at no charge.
2. You can run it on any System z10 machine..
3. There's no capacity cap, and you can run it on either/both CPs and IFLs,
on any number of machines.
4. You're licensed for 90 days, but there's no "time bomb" that would cause
z/VM EE to stop.
5. No support -- you cannot open PMRs, etc. -- nor can you apply PTFs.
(It's not for production use.).
6. It's got a fairly rich set of z/VM options included (e.g. the
Performance Toolkit).

If you download z/VM, you'll need to burn it to a DVD-RAM disc, so make
sure you can do that on your PC. Many DVD burners support DVD-RAM discs,
but not all. If yours doesn't, fortunately DVD-RAM burners are cheap and
plentiful.

Anyway, for those of you who'd like to give z/VM a try -- for running Linux
or any other mainframe operating system -- you're good to go. The files are
available for download now. Enjoy.

- - - - -
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Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:23:04 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>> The square brackets that display correctly are x'AD' and x'BD'.
...
>They're both wrong   Mine are x'BA' and x'BB', and they work
>wonderfully.
>...

Use of characters in a codepage work wonderfully within that 
codepage.  Amazing how that works.   :-)

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
While that is a reasonable assumption, I think I'm innocent this 
time.   It's in the default keyboard map ... as downloaded to my

PC by our wonderful corporate software distribution system.  This
is a seriously ammended (mostly pruned) PComm 5.5  They may
helped us out by giving us a non-standard default keyboard map.
They're nice that way.
  


If you go into the keyboard utility and change the base value for the [ 
and ] keys from whatever they are now to '[' and ']' respectively 
(including the surrounding apostrophes), it should work no matter what 
code page you use.


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Re: Numeric TSO Userids

2008-07-22 Thread Thompson, Steve
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If TSS could do it, then why couldn't it be done in a RACF environment?
ISPF shouldn't choke on this, after all, as the original poster said,
they already prefix the "TSOID" with a letter, which would give a max
HLQ of 8 characters.


Sorry, I had Top Secret running around in my head this afternoon. I
meant ACF2 as the original poster was saying. Long day.

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Re: Numeric TSO Userids

2008-07-22 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Doc Farmer
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:14 PM
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Subject: Re: FW: Numeric TSO Userids

As Bender of Futurama might say, "We're Boned!"

Sorry, the Wonderful Wizards of HASP decided that a TSO User ID in RACF
must be only 7 characters in length and must start with an alpha
character only.
I think you're gonna have some fun renaming all those old IDs (and all
those old Datasets) to the new format.  I doubt you'd have an exit that
could work that wouldn't also screw up your other operations, so get
ready to do some bulk renaming.


If TSS could do it, then why couldn't it be done in a RACF environment?
ISPF shouldn't choke on this, after all, as the original poster said,
they already prefix the "TSOID" with a letter, which would give a max
HLQ of 8 characters.

The Submit Exit and INTRDR may need a little tweaking.

I'd think that the thing to do is bring up a NON-TSS system with RACF
(standalone). Your first problem is going to be the TSO PREFIX
PROFILE(nn) because it is going to give you this: IKJ56710I INVALID
USERID, 1234567

Once you get that to work, you can set your prefix to your TSS ID (all
numbers) and see what falls out next.

What one might do, if TopSecret is installed with SMPE is look at the
++USERMODS and what they apply to. That will give you some ideas of what
you will need to handle. If it is an IEBCOPY install, look to see what
it requires to be installed that happens to have "IBM" owned program
(CSECT/MODULE) names.

You just might be able to pull off the same things TSS does to allow
numeric TSO IDs. Or you may be able to prove to your management that
this will require a migration of TSO IDs, or stay on TSS (probably
justifying the license/maint fees for TSS to CA).

Regards,
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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

Patrick O'Keefe wrote:

The square brackets that display correctly are x'AD' and x'BD'.
The square brackets from PComm are x'B0' and x'6A'.


They're both wrong   Mine are x'BA' and x'BB', and they work 
wonderfully.


When IBM introduced the 327x, they should have used the codes 
assigned to the TN train for common values, but that was too 
much work for them?


Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog

2008-07-22 Thread Staller, Allan
Ding ding ding! We have a winner.
Of course this bypasses the check that prevents deleting an active page
dataset. 

Be vewy vewy careful! heheheheheheheh


//STEP01  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS  
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//DISK1DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=H5PAG1,DISP=SHR
//SYSINDD *
 DELETE PAGE.AQH2.PLPA -   
 PAGESPACE -   
 FILE(DISK1) - 
 CATALOG(SYS1.ZOS17.MCAT)  


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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
  Thanks Bob. You are a voice I trust and I almost decided to go
forward.
  But, I'm a coward and it's not hard to goback, so that is what I
decided to do. I opened an ETR asking if I would be supported if I went
forward, no answer yet. In the meantime I still have a dozen PARMLIB
members to review and merge with my current set-up :)

  Thank you to Lizette, Alan and the others. I learn a good part of my
job from this forum. Thanks to all of you.

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> >Yahbut, I did run the 835 successful PTFs with the 1.7 system
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> > the 1.9 target? Is NUCLEUS (which failed) my only worry?
> 
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Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog

2008-07-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
You do if the dataset is not accessible through the standard catalog search
order.  And certain commands require it.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:21:21 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>//DISK1DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=H5PAG1,DISP=SHR
>
>You do not need to statically allocate DISK DD's to IDCAMS steps.
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Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog

2008-07-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>//DISK1DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=H5PAG1,DISP=SHR

You do not need to statically allocate DISK DD's to IDCAMS steps.
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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:51:00 -0700, Edward Jaffe 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>Ummm The default United States keyboard mapping in PCOMM 
does not
>define square brackets ...
>...
>You must have defined them yourself -- to the wrong values!
>...

While that is a reasonable assumption, I think I'm innocent this 
time.   It's in the default keyboard map ... as downloaded to my
PC by our wonderful corporate software distribution system.  This
is a seriously ammended (mostly pruned) PComm 5.5  They may
helped us out by giving us a non-standard default keyboard map.
They're nice that way.

Pat O'Keefe 

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Re: Numeric TSO Userids

2008-07-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Saw your main in RACF-L as well. The answer is TSO logon exit. Have the user
be aware to his numeric id, not more then six chars and prefix a character
or assign another UID. I have a similar problem at a customer here who
converted from VSE to MVS. Not a big problem., but I would keep a sync.
Between the userid and the numeric value in RACF. Perhaps an other class
that can hold a numeric value and a field that holds the userid. 

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Cross Posted to RACF-L and re posted to IBM Main

Could anybody offer any ideas at all in this area?

Regards

Mark
 

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Hi,

I am in the middle of migrating a customer from ACF2 to RACF and have
encountered a problem.

ACF2 supports the use of fully numeric TSO Userids.

The customer has an exit in place that forces all dataset allocations to be
prefixed with a Alpha character, getting around the dataset issues.

However, if I migrate them to RACF, TSO does NOT support a fully numeric
Userid.

I know this is not supported by IBM, but does anyone have any ideas (TSO
exit?), that I can use to support fully numeric TSO Userids.

The customer does not what to change the RACF Userids to start with an alpha
character for business/application reasons.

Any help gratefully received.

Regards,

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Re: Numeric TSO Userids

2008-07-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
 


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Subject: FW: Numeric TSO Userids

Cross Posted to RACF-L and re posted to IBM Main

Could anybody offer any ideas at all in this area?

Regards

Mark
 

**

Hi,

I am in the middle of migrating a customer from ACF2 to RACF and have
encountered a problem.

ACF2 supports the use of fully numeric TSO Userids.

The customer has an exit in place that forces all dataset allocations to be
prefixed with a Alpha character, getting around the dataset issues.

However, if I migrate them to RACF, TSO does NOT support a fully numeric
Userid.

I know this is not supported by IBM, but does anyone have any ideas (TSO
exit?), that I can use to support fully numeric TSO Userids.

The customer does not what to change the RACF Userids to start with an alpha
character for business/application reasons.

Any help gratefully received.

Regards,

Mark

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Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog

2008-07-22 Thread Matthew Stitt
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:38 -0500, McKown, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Close, but no cigar.

//STEP01  EXEC PGM=IDCAMS  
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//DISK1DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=H5PAG1,DISP=SHR
//SYSINDD *
 DELETE PAGE.AQH2.PLPA -   
 PAGESPACE -   
 FILE(DISK1) - 
 CATALOG(SYS1.ZOS17.MCAT)  

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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:51 PM
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>> Subject: Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog
>>
>> Here is some JCL I have used in the past
>> //IDCAMS   EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS
>> //STEPCAT DD DSN=CATALOG.MASTER.VCATT28,DISP=SHR
>> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
>> //SYSINDD  *
>>  DELETE -
>> PAGE.TEST.COMMON -
>> PAGESPACE -
>> PURGE -
>> CATALOG(CATALOG.MASTER.VCATT28)
>>
>> Pat Mihalec
>
>H no more STEPCAT allowed!
>
>My page datasets are all named PAGE.&SYSNAME.stuff. I use MultiLevel
>aliases so that I can do a DEFINE alias so that PAGE.&SYSNAME in this
>system's master catalog points to &SYSNAME's master catalog.
>
>Another possibility is to simply create the PAGESPACE in the current
>system's master catalog. Then, just do a DEFINE PAGESPACE ... RECATALOG
>CAT(other.mastercat) . One nice thing is that a PAGESPACE can be defined
>in multiple catalogs at the same time.
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FW: Numeric TSO Userids

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Wilson
Cross Posted to RACF-L and re posted to IBM Main

Could anybody offer any ideas at all in this area?

Regards

Mark
 

**

Hi,

I am in the middle of migrating a customer from ACF2 to RACF and have
encountered a problem.

ACF2 supports the use of fully numeric TSO Userids.

The customer has an exit in place that forces all dataset allocations to be
prefixed with a Alpha character, getting around the dataset issues.

However, if I migrate them to RACF, TSO does NOT support a fully numeric
Userid.

I know this is not supported by IBM, but does anyone have any ideas (TSO
exit?), that I can use to support fully numeric TSO Userids.

The customer does not what to change the RACF Userids to start with an alpha
character for business/application reasons.

Any help gratefully received.

Regards,

Mark

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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/22/2008 1:54:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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It figures. The characters got "munged" by email. Corrections are noted  
below:


>>
Probably a code page problem?







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Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog

2008-07-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Mihalec
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> Subject: Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog
> 
> Here is some JCL I have used in the past 
> //IDCAMS   EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS 
> //STEPCAT DD DSN=CATALOG.MASTER.VCATT28,DISP=SHR 
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
> //SYSINDD  * 
>  DELETE - 
> PAGE.TEST.COMMON - 
> PAGESPACE - 
> PURGE - 
> CATALOG(CATALOG.MASTER.VCATT28) 
> 
> Pat Mihalec

H no more STEPCAT allowed!

My page datasets are all named PAGE.&SYSNAME.stuff. I use MultiLevel
aliases so that I can do a DEFINE alias so that PAGE.&SYSNAME in this
system's master catalog points to &SYSNAME's master catalog.

Another possibility is to simply create the PAGESPACE in the current
system's master catalog. Then, just do a DEFINE PAGESPACE ... RECATALOG
CAT(other.mastercat) . One nice thing is that a PAGESPACE can be defined
in multiple catalogs at the same time.

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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Edward Jaffe wrote:

It figures. The characters got "munged" by email. Corrections are noted 
below:

The left bracket key is defined as:
Base: ',' <-- This is supposed to be the NOT symbol (like a backwards 
L rotated left 90 degrees)

Shift: '{'
Ctrl: [ESC]
Alt: [pass]
AltGr: [dead]
CtrlShift: [pass]

The right bracket key is defined as:
Base: '&' <-- This is supposed to be a broken vertical bar
Shift: '}'
Ctrl: [GS]
Alt: [pass]
AltGr: [dead]
CtrlShift: [pass]


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Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog

2008-07-22 Thread Pat Mihalec
Here is some JCL I have used in the past 
//IDCAMS   EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS 
//STEPCAT DD DSN=CATALOG.MASTER.VCATT28,DISP=SHR 
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD  * 
 DELETE - 
PAGE.TEST.COMMON - 
PAGESPACE - 
PURGE - 
CATALOG(CATALOG.MASTER.VCATT28) 

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zOS 1.9 IDCAMS manual has a fine example of how to deFINE a 
pagespace in another system's Master catalog.  Excellent
DEFINE ALIAS (NAME(SYS2) RELATE(MASTCAT.SYSTEM2)) 
DEFINE PAGESPACE (NAME(SYS2.PAGE2) CYLINDERS(10) VOLUMES(VSER05) 
ALTER SYS2.PAGE2 NEWNAME(SYS1.PAGE2) CATALOG(MASTCAT.SYSTEM2) 
ALTER SYS2.PAGE2.DATA NEWNAME(SYS1.PAGE2.DATA) CATALOG(MASTCAT.SYSTEM2) 
But how to deLETE one of these in another system's master catalog? 

 
I have tried to DEFINE ALIAS, DELETE PAGESPACE with CAT(, tried 
ALTER the pagespace to an SSA aliwas like SYS2 in the example above, but 
no luck.  Anyone know this trick? 

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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Edward Jaffe

Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
I'm using PComm with "Session parameters - Host Code-Page" set to 
1047.  It was probably mentioned somewhere in this thread, but I

don't know if that specification effects both keyboard mapping and
display or just display.  


The square brackets that display correctly are x'AD' and x'BD'.
The square brackets from PComm are x'B0' and x'6A'.
  


Ummm The default United States keyboard mapping in PCOMM does not 
define square brackets ...


The left bracket key is defined as:
Base: ','
Shift: '{'
Ctrl: [ESC]
Alt: [pass]
AltGr: [dead]
CtrlShift: [pass]

The right bracket key is defined as:
Base: '&'
Shift: '}'
Ctrl: [GS]
Alt: [pass]
AltGr: [dead]
CtrlShift: [pass]

You must have defined them yourself -- to the wrong values!

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Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog

2008-07-22 Thread John Mattson
zOS 1.9 IDCAMS manual has a fine example of how to deFINE a 
pagespace in another system's Master catalog.  Excellent
DEFINE ALIAS (NAME(SYS2) RELATE(MASTCAT.SYSTEM2)) 
DEFINE PAGESPACE (NAME(SYS2.PAGE2) CYLINDERS(10) VOLUMES(VSER05) 
ALTER SYS2.PAGE2 NEWNAME(SYS1.PAGE2) CATALOG(MASTCAT.SYSTEM2) 
ALTER SYS2.PAGE2.DATA NEWNAME(SYS1.PAGE2.DATA) CATALOG(MASTCAT.SYSTEM2) 
But how to deLETE one of these in another system's master catalog? 
 
I have tried to DEFINE ALIAS, DELETE PAGESPACE with CAT(, tried 
ALTER the pagespace to an SSA aliwas like SYS2 in the example above, but 
no luck.  Anyone know this trick? 

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Re: How to change the ISPF code page?

2008-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:32:39 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>...
>I sympathize, having just worked through some bracket
>incompatibilities with special software, but what would the
>keyboard look like? Eight shift keys or worse ? 
>...

Speaking of bracket incompatabilites, ...

Maybe this was already mentioned inthe thread, but I've been
verifying effects of the  changes to "Terminal type" by looking
at the output from man commands issued from an ISHELL panel
(in addition to viewing the macros mentioned).  Square brackets
look great there.  But not so the square brackets I enter from my 
keyboard.  

I'm using PComm with "Session parameters - Host Code-Page" set to 
1047.  It was probably mentioned somewhere in this thread, but I
don't know if that specification effects both keyboard mapping and
display or just display.  

The square brackets that display correctly are x'AD' and x'BD'.
The square brackets from PComm are x'B0' and x'6A'.

I know I can change the keyboard mapping.  Is that what others
have done, or is there some other more standard technique?

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Interesting problem with CONSOLE ACTIVATE

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Packer
That's what I'd call "Clustered Departures". :-)

Sorry folks That's got to be the most NERDY joke in history. :-)

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Re: IBM's 2Q2008 Earnings

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Packer
Hopefully you didn't miss out Abel Gance's "La Roue". :-)

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Re: Interesting problem with CONSOLE ACTIVATE

2008-07-22 Thread Hal Merritt
Bingo. I saw the S13E but it did not penetrate my brain bone. Everything
else looks like a good fit and the fix is not on. 

Thanks!!!

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Does this batch job reference a PDSE?  Perhaps OA22344 describes this 
problem.

Brian

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:37:29 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:

> For many, many moons, we have a large number of productions jobs kick
>off at about the same time. The first step is scheduler administration,
>and the second step executes  IKJEFT1B, which calls a REXX exec (see
>below). 
>
>The command executed is a JES purge: $P O JOB(xxyyzz),HOURS<12
>
>(Please don't ask why we do the purge. It makes perfect
>business/technical sense to us. A REXX is used so that the command can
>be scheduled, routed, and managed.) 
>
>Just lately, that step has been randomly failing and then hanging
>between the CONSOLD ACTIVATE and CONSOLE DEACTIVATE. The hanging 
job
>then 'sits' on the console causing other jobs with that same ID to
fail.
>
>The only symptom I see is the following message:
>
>IEC999I IFG0TC0A,IGWFARC0,jobname,stepname
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Branch Entry Catalog

2008-07-22 Thread Leonard D Woren

Who calls Branch Entry Catalog (as opposed to issuing SVC 26)?


/Leonard

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Re: IBM's 2Q2008 Earnings

2008-07-22 Thread R.S.

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Dave,

With regrests, I think it would be better to go back to the beginning of your 
base SERVERPAC and then reinstall the maint with the correct JOBLIB/STEPLIB.

I am not sure if a REDO on all of the fixes would work as well.  (Yes I did 
have to regress my SMPE libraries to the beginning and rerun the APPLY.  I had 
the same number of PTFs that got regressed)

I think it is safer to go back to the base serverpac and then go forward.  Of 
course I did a FDR Dump of all of my serverpac libraries before doing maint, so 
it was an easy process to regress them.

Lizette



>
>   Thank you, of course I should have done that. What I get for doing
>one of these only every two or three years. And I missed it in the PSP
>and/or migration doc.
>   My next question is: Since I did get 835 PTFs on (all that didn't
>involve NUCLEUS), can I go forward, or should I start over one more
>time? Or restore from back up to the pre APPLY state and run again. Or
>SMP/E restore?
>
>> -Original Message-
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>> 
>> I ran into that one. You MUST run your SMPE Assembles pointing to the
>z/OS
>> V1.9 ASSEMBLER AND BINDER libraries.  They need to be JOBLIB or
>STEPLIB in
>> your SMPE libraries.  This is documented in the z/OS V1.9 PSP bucket
>> 
>> Otherwise the IPL blows up.
>> 
>> Lizette
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> >I'll probably open an ETR in the morning, but I hope for some
>> > thoughts here. My Serverpac order is now several months old. So, I
>> > uploaded a report and ordered maintenance to current level. After
>some
>> > work with excludes, I get an APPLY CHECK with rc=0.
>> >
>> >   So, I run the APPLY and I get several (more than a dozen) like
>this:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > UA36789  HBB7740  GIM23911E 56   LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FAILED FOR
>> > MODULE ITTTL IN LMOD IEANUC01 IN THE NUCLEUS
>> >
>> >  LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS
>12.
>> > THE SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 000522. THE SYSPRINT
>> >
>> >  FILE WAS SMP00111.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Messages as above, all the other PTFs (anything that doesn't touch
>> > NUCLEUS) go on clean. What am I missing?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As you might imagine, I'm a little reluctant to good forward with
>> > potential nucleus problems.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Running on a 1.7 driving system. Damn, should I be using the 1.9
>> > MIGLIB?
>> >

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Staller, Allan
All of the issues will be indicated in the SMPOUT DD. Anything that
shows "system utility failure" (or something similar) will need to be
fixed. About the only thing that should remain after the last run (once
all issues have been fixed) are unresolved error holds.

<>
> 
>My next question is: Since I did get 835 PTFs on (all that didn't
> involve NUCLEUS), can I go forward, or should I start over one more
> time? Or restore from back up to the pre APPLY state and run again. Or
> SMP/E restore?
> 
> 
> Just rerun the apply, fixing problems until a clean run is achieved.
> Each run will remember what the previous runs accomplished, and only
> attempt to apply the stuff previously in error.

   Yahbut, I did run the 835 successful PTFs with the 1.7 system against
the 1.9 target? Is NUCLEUS (which failed) my only worry?
<>

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Re: Interesting problem with CONSOLE ACTIVATE

2008-07-22 Thread Brian Peterson
Does this batch job reference a PDSE?  Perhaps OA22344 describes this 
problem.

Brian

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:37:29 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote:

> For many, many moons, we have a large number of productions jobs kick
>off at about the same time. The first step is scheduler administration,
>and the second step executes  IKJEFT1B, which calls a REXX exec (see
>below). 
>
>The command executed is a JES purge: $P O JOB(xxyyzz),HOURS<12
>
>(Please don't ask why we do the purge. It makes perfect
>business/technical sense to us. A REXX is used so that the command can
>be scheduled, routed, and managed.) 
>
>Just lately, that step has been randomly failing and then hanging
>between the CONSOLD ACTIVATE and CONSOLE DEACTIVATE. The hanging 
job
>then 'sits' on the console causing other jobs with that same ID to fail.
>
>The only symptom I see is the following message:
>
>IEC999I IFG0TC0A,IGWFARC0,jobname,stepname
>

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Bob Rutledge

Gibney, Dave wrote:


   Yahbut, I did run the 835 successful PTFs with the 1.7 system against
the 1.9 target? Is NUCLEUS (which failed) my only worry?


Seems like.  See the thread around 
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0801&L=ibm-main&D=0&I=1&X=-&P=91155


Bob

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Re: Interesting problem with CONSOLE ACTIVATE

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:37:29 -0500, Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>
>The only symptom I see is the following message:
>
> 
>
>IEC999I IFG0TC0A,IGWFARC0,jobname,stepname
>
> 
>
>The FM implies I should be looking for the debris field of a system 0C1,
>but I don't' see anything.  
>

Have you checked LOGREC from that time period?

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Interesting problem with CONSOLE ACTIVATE

2008-07-22 Thread Hal Merritt
 For many, many moons, we have a large number of productions jobs kick
off at about the same time. The first step is scheduler administration,
and the second step executes  IKJEFT1B, which calls a REXX exec (see
below). 

 

The command executed is a JES purge: $P O JOB(xxyyzz),HOURS<12

 

(Please don't ask why we do the purge. It makes perfect
business/technical sense to us. A REXX is used so that the command can
be scheduled, routed, and managed.) 

 

Just lately, that step has been randomly failing and then hanging
between the CONSOLD ACTIVATE and CONSOLE DEACTIVATE. The hanging job
then 'sits' on the console causing other jobs with that same ID to fail.


 

The only symptom I see is the following message:

 

IEC999I IFG0TC0A,IGWFARC0,jobname,stepname

 

The FM implies I should be looking for the debris field of a system 0C1,
but I don't' see anything.  

 

We expect failures when more than one job attempts to concurrently
activate the console, but the hang is something new. 

 

Any clues?

 

Thanks!!

 

 

/**REXX/

/*  ISSUE COMMANDS FROM BATCH */

/*  USED INSTEAD OF INSTREAM COMMANDS SO THAT THE */

/*  BATCH JOB CAN BE ROUTED TO A DESIRED LPAR*/ 

/**/

 TRACE OFF  

 PARSE ARG SYSCMD   

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 "CONSOLE SYSCMD("SYSCMD")" 

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Re: SMS Confusion

2008-07-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
I actaully brought up the new z/OS V1.9 system in our shared plex (5 lpars) 
with everybody sharing.

So I used all of our current files (ACDS CDS, HSM Files, CF files, and so on).  
The first IPL was perfect, I had no issues.

Only gotcha is that you need to do all your SMS work from the higher level 
operating system once it touches your SMS data sets.  But I had no issue doing 
the software upgrade and then just IPL'ing the system into the plex the first 
time.

Of course I made sure all the toleration maint between z/OS V1.7 and V1.9 was 
in place.

I even did a fall back from 1.9 to 1.7 without issue.

To recap,
 1)  Laid down the Software installation for Serverpac
 2)  Build the new SYSRES and OMVS data sets
 3)  IPL'd into the plex using all the current data sets for JES2, HSM, SMS, 
and so on.  The IPL was done from the BASE serverpac level, I have no problems 
to report doing that.

Lizette


>
>
>> Ready to IPL our test 1.9 and the SMS question came up. Is the version as
>
>> laid down by the build process enough to bring up the system? My boss is
>> concerned since we're in a shared DASD world.
>>
>My z/OS guys would bring it up for the first time in the sandbox and have
>me active a real configuration quickly thereafter. If you want to be sure
>you have something valid before the ipl, you could do a SETSMS
>SAVEACDS(your.new.acds.dsn) to put your SMS configuration in the new acds
>dataset.
>

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Staller, Allan
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:06 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Some insight on 1.9 install
> 
> 
>My next question is: Since I did get 835 PTFs on (all that didn't
> involve NUCLEUS), can I go forward, or should I start over one more
> time? Or restore from back up to the pre APPLY state and run again. Or
> SMP/E restore?
> 
> 
> Just rerun the apply, fixing problems until a clean run is achieved.
> Each run will remember what the previous runs accomplished, and only
> attempt to apply the stuff previously in error.

   Yahbut, I did run the 835 successful PTFs with the 1.7 system against
the 1.9 target? Is NUCLEUS (which failed) my only worry?


> 
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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Packer
That WASN'T my assumption...

My assumption was that anyone WITH a CF had it well above CFLEVEL=1. As to 
WHAT the minimum level is I don't know.

Rich Fochtman wrote:

> Bad assumption. I'm stuck working part-time in a Basic Sysplex shop of 
> three images: PROD, TEST and SANDBOX. CF is not even being considered, 
> mainly due to politics in the office. All three images running in 
> separate LPARs on a 6-engine z9 processor.

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Re: SMS Confusion

2008-07-22 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Will you be using one Commds dataset or two?



From: Daniel McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 11:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SMS Confusion



Ready to IPL our test 1.9 and the SMS question came up. Is the version as
laid down by the build process enough to bring up the system? My boss is
concerned since we're in a shared DASD world.

TIA...

If you wish to respond offline, that is cool, too.

(SMS Rookie)

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Staller, Allan

   My next question is: Since I did get 835 PTFs on (all that didn't
involve NUCLEUS), can I go forward, or should I start over one more
time? Or restore from back up to the pre APPLY state and run again. Or
SMP/E restore?


Just rerun the apply, fixing problems until a clean run is achieved. 
Each run will remember what the previous runs accomplished, and only
attempt to apply the stuff previously in error. 

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Re: SMS Confusion

2008-07-22 Thread John Kington
Daniel,


> Ready to IPL our test 1.9 and the SMS question came up. Is the version as

> laid down by the build process enough to bring up the system? My boss is
> concerned since we're in a shared DASD world.
>
My z/OS guys would bring it up for the first time in the sandbox and have
me active a real configuration quickly thereafter. If you want to be sure
you have something valid before the ipl, you could do a SETSMS
SAVEACDS(your.new.acds.dsn) to put your SMS configuration in the new acds
dataset.
Regards,
John

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
   Thank you, of course I should have done that. What I get for doing
one of these only every two or three years. And I missed it in the PSP
and/or migration doc.
   My next question is: Since I did get 835 PTFs on (all that didn't
involve NUCLEUS), can I go forward, or should I start over one more
time? Or restore from back up to the pre APPLY state and run again. Or
SMP/E restore?

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:46 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Some insight on 1.9 install
> 
> I ran into that one. You MUST run your SMPE Assembles pointing to the
z/OS
> V1.9 ASSEMBLER AND BINDER libraries.  They need to be JOBLIB or
STEPLIB in
> your SMPE libraries.  This is documented in the z/OS V1.9 PSP bucket
> 
> Otherwise the IPL blows up.
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> >
> >I'll probably open an ETR in the morning, but I hope for some
> > thoughts here. My Serverpac order is now several months old. So, I
> > uploaded a report and ordered maintenance to current level. After
some
> > work with excludes, I get an APPLY CHECK with rc=0.
> >
> >   So, I run the APPLY and I get several (more than a dozen) like
this:
> >
> >
> >
> > UA36789  HBB7740  GIM23911E 56   LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FAILED FOR
> > MODULE ITTTL IN LMOD IEANUC01 IN THE NUCLEUS
> >
> >  LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS
12.
> > THE SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 000522. THE SYSPRINT
> >
> >  FILE WAS SMP00111.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Messages as above, all the other PTFs (anything that doesn't touch
> > NUCLEUS) go on clean. What am I missing?
> >
> >
> >
> > As you might imagine, I'm a little reluctant to good forward with
> > potential nucleus problems.
> >
> >
> >
> > Running on a 1.7 driving system. Damn, should I be using the 1.9
> > MIGLIB?
> >
> 
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SMS Confusion

2008-07-22 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Ready to IPL our test 1.9 and the SMS question came up. Is the version as 
laid down by the build process enough to bring up the system? My boss is 
concerned since we're in a shared DASD world.

TIA...

If you wish to respond offline, that is cool, too. 

(SMS Rookie)

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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Rick Fochtman

---
I'm wondering whether to do the same regarding Parallel Sysplex 
manuals.They refer to eg CFLEVEL1 which I kinda think all customers will 
have by now. :-)


Bad assumption. I'm stuck working part-time in a Basic Sysplex shop of 
three images: PROD, TEST and SANDBOX. CF is not even being considered, 
mainly due to politics in the office. All three images running in 
separate LPARs on a 6-engine z9 processor.


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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/22/2008 10:11:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

No, it's quit since we used 3081s, 3090s and IBM publications for  landfill 


>>
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Re: Dump management

2008-07-22 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I used to have a boss that kept lots of CICS dumps on spool.  We had 2 3390 
M3s for our spool.  The day after she left, our spool went from about 60% 
full to around 20% full after I purged all of the CICS dumps.  I think the 
oldest dump she had was about 2 years old.  Her desk and table were also 
piled with dumps.  Once or twice when I asked her where something was, she 
always found it right away.  I don't know why she kept them, because she 
rarely did anything with them.


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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Brian Kenny
No, it's quit since we used 3081s, 3090s and IBM publications for landfill 

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Re: Tracing USS IP flows

2008-07-22 Thread Chris Mason
Sorry

There was supposed to be a [2] following the name of the "man of steel".

Chris Mason

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:16:54 -0500, Chris Mason 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Ian
>
>... and "before" was when you used VTAM obviously and probably
>understood "USS" to mean "Unformatted System Services".[1]
>
>The fact that you hark back to the good old days may indicate that you 
retain
>the entirely reasonable expectation that, if data can find its way from A to B,
>it should jolly well be able to find its way back from B to A - a "given" in 
>the
>connection-oriented SNA world.
>
>Regrettably, thanks, I was told, to Iosef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, aka
>Stalin and his propensity for aiming WMD at the US, the network invented to
>cater for the mass destruction of communication facilities which could result
>from a launch of these weapons, IP is connectionless.
>
>This is all a massively verbose way to hint that your problem may be simply
>that the outbound route works but the inbound route does not. Thus, before
>you go to all the trouble of tracing anything in the old "VTAM buffer" way, 
you
>might like to try the traceroute command at the B node in order to find out
>where the routing definitions are "broken".
>
>I hope you'll be able to say "I'll drink to that!"
>
>Chris Mason
>
>[1] I see my preference for this usage has attracted some notoriety; regular
>contributor Timothy has used it as an example of the proper use of the list!
>
>[2] In a reassignment/redesign of the library at an education centre where I
>used to work into a sort-of "internet cafe" without the coffee, a blank space
>was left between two doors with busy corridors on two sides. It seemed
>obvious to me - but not the local management - that it was the ideal location
>for a bust of the person most responsible for inspiring the Internet.
>
>Chris Mason
>
>On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:49:31 +0100, Ian S. Worthington
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I've been asked to look at some problems communicating with an application
>>running under USS from a z/linux system.
>>
>>Symptoms seem to be that the input's arriving and being processed, but the
>>reply message isn't making it back.
>>
>>What's the best way of tracing ip comms under uss?  When I used to do this
>>before it was get a vtam buffer trace, but I'm not sure if there's a better
>>way under uss.
>>
>>Suggestions welcome.
>>
>>
>>ian
>>...
>>
>>Ian S. Worthington, MBCS.
>>
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>>photos: http://gallery.isw.me.uk/
>>
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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Richard Pinion
I spend all of my time reading IBM-Main.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: "Gray, Larry - Larry A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:   IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:41:40 -0400

How could you have free time.  Shouldn't you be out shoring up your sinking 
data center?


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-Original Message-
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Brian Kenny
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

Recently, June 2008, with time on my hands and no real life, I got tired so 
seeing references in the EREP reference (copyright Mar 2006) to the 3081 and 
3090s.
So summoning up righteous indignation I sent off an email to the address in 
back of the manual - [EMAIL PROTECTED], never really expecting a response.
Surprise, about a week later I received an email from IBM thanking me for my 
input and a promise that the manuals would be changed with the next release.

Thankfully my workload has increased and I am no longer spending my time in 
search of nits to pick.

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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
How could you have free time.  Shouldn't you be out shoring up your sinking 
data center?


Larry Gray
Large Systems Engineering
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-Original Message-
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Brian Kenny
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

Recently, June 2008, with time on my hands and no real life, I got tired so 
seeing references in the EREP reference (copyright Mar 2006) to the 3081 and 
3090s.
So summoning up righteous indignation I sent off an email to the address in 
back of the manual - [EMAIL PROTECTED], never really expecting a response.
Surprise, about a week later I received an email from IBM thanking me for my 
input and a promise that the manuals would be changed with the next release.

Thankfully my workload has increased and I am no longer spending my time in 
search of nits to pick.

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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Packer
I'm wondering whether to do the same regarding Parallel Sysplex manuals. 
They refer to eg CFLEVEL1 which I kinda think all customers will have by 
now. :-)

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Re: Dump management

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:13:27 +0200, Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I have been unable so far to convince the powers that be that operlog is
much >better as it definitely shows more (everythings after a $pjes2 during
shutdown), >so no one really cares about operlog.
>

That is a minor benefit.  The big benefit is having all the logs for the sysplex
combined in one place when trying to diagnose a problem.   There is still
a 9 system sysplex here that doesn't use it because they couldn't afford
the extra CF activity in their DB2 data sharing environment.  But that
decision goes back to 9672 CFs.  I don't think it would have been an 
issue with the z900-100 CFs and it certainly wouldn't be an issue today
with z9 CFs.   Just haven't gotten around to it yet.  Anyway... trying to look 
back at problems in that sysplex can be a real PITA to say the least if
you don't know what system to start looking on.

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Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue

2008-07-22 Thread Brian Kenny
Recently, June 2008, with time on my hands and no real life, I got tired so 
seeing references in the EREP reference (copyright Mar 2006) to the 3081 and 
3090s.
So summoning up righteous indignation I sent off an email to the address in 
back of the manual - [EMAIL PROTECTED], never really expecting a response. 
Surprise, about a week later I received an email from IBM thanking me for my 
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Re: Dump management

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:17:11 -0500, Bruce Hewson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I keep dumps for 6 months, as I recall reading that is how long
>DAE "remembers" an SVC dump occurred...
>


Sort of.  DAE ignores entries that haven't been updated in 180 days.  Sounds
like a good reason to use 6 months.  Although I've never had to go back to
one older than the 30 days we keep them in my 6 years here.

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Re: TSO/ISPF Screen Swap

2008-07-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:07:21 -0500, Hardee, Charles H
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Actually, everything I do I try to do in REXX.
>Unfortunately, some things are still in CLIST and 
>beyond my control to change, else changed they would be.
>

Just like any programming language, there really is no good reason to
rewrite just for the sake of doing so.   

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Re: Example of what a very small JCL Interpreter can do to your installation.

2008-07-22 Thread Don Leahy
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:18 PM, McKown, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree, in part. I tried to use DisplayWrite/370. . But the
> main problem, as usual, is management. The mainframe has been around a
> long time. We have a lot of policies and procedures. Some of which are
> good and necessary. Some of which make no sense (to me). At least around
> here, in the past, the Windows environment could change quickly to
> demands. Why? Because they were allowed to. There was little change
> control. There was almost no review of what was going on. Now that
> management here is implementing this, two things have happened: (1) the
> "cowboys" has gone on to "greener pastures" where they are allowed to
> "get work done, not fill out paper" and (2) change has slowed down to
> almost mainframe-likeness.
>
> John McKown

And in some cases even slower

Last year we created a *new* mainframe application because the
distributed platform guys could not commit to the project's delivery
dates (which were legislation-driven and could not be changed).

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Re: Tracing USS IP flows

2008-07-22 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 23:49 +0100, Ian S. Worthington wrote:
> What's the best way of tracing ip comms under uss?

TDSLink is useful.  It has a builtin web interface and produces a log
file in sniffer format.  Dead simple to install, and free.

TDS (the company) has been acquired and their product renamed to
"ServicePilot NBA for z/OS".  It can be had at:
http://www.servicepilot.com/download1/

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Re: OPERLOG IEAMDBLG and z/OS V1.9

2008-07-22 Thread Barbara Nitz
>But even so, there is no reason that should cause you to lose operlog data. 
>Did the systems shut
>down clean?

Up until this morning, I would have said that yes, if there was a normal 
shutdown, operlog should not have lost records, not even when you're not using 
staging data sets.

This morning I learned that even a system that is not connected to operlog, 
will not write to operlog etc can definitely have a connection to the operlog 
logstream/structure, and what's worse, can offload log stream data that during 
later IPL can cause the logstream to have lost records. How? Have one system in 
the plex that does NOT use operlog and that has it's own SMS/catalog structure 
that does NOT know the HLQ used for offloading operlog. Then use SDSF and use 
LOG O. You will be told 'Log not active', but the system nonetheless connects 
to the log stream and shows the operlog such as it is written to from other 
systems! You won't see anythign from your 'own' system, but if you don't leave 
operlog in sdsf until the *other* system is IPL'd, then yours is going to 
offload.

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Re: Tracing USS IP flows

2008-07-22 Thread Chris Mason
Ian

... and "before" was when you used VTAM obviously and probably 
understood "USS" to mean "Unformatted System Services".[1]

The fact that you hark back to the good old days may indicate that you retain 
the entirely reasonable expectation that, if data can find its way from A to B, 
it should jolly well be able to find its way back from B to A - a "given" in 
the 
connection-oriented SNA world.

Regrettably, thanks, I was told, to Iosef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, aka 
Stalin and his propensity for aiming WMD at the US, the network invented to 
cater for the mass destruction of communication facilities which could result 
from a launch of these weapons, IP is connectionless.

This is all a massively verbose way to hint that your problem may be simply 
that the outbound route works but the inbound route does not. Thus, before 
you go to all the trouble of tracing anything in the old "VTAM buffer" way, you 
might like to try the traceroute command at the B node in order to find out 
where the routing definitions are "broken".

I hope you'll be able to say "I'll drink to that!"

Chris Mason

[1] I see my preference for this usage has attracted some notoriety; regular 
contributor Timothy has used it as an example of the proper use of the list!

[2] In a reassignment/redesign of the library at an education centre where I 
used to work into a sort-of "internet cafe" without the coffee, a blank space 
was left between two doors with busy corridors on two sides. It seemed 
obvious to me - but not the local management - that it was the ideal location 
for a bust of the person most responsible for inspiring the Internet.

Chris Mason

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:49:31 +0100, Ian S. Worthington 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I've been asked to look at some problems communicating with an application
>running under USS from a z/linux system.
>
>Symptoms seem to be that the input's arriving and being processed, but the
>reply message isn't making it back.
>
>What's the best way of tracing ip comms under uss?  When I used to do this
>before it was get a vtam buffer trace, but I'm not sure if there's a better
>way under uss.
>
>Suggestions welcome.
>
>
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Re: Dump management

2008-07-22 Thread Barbara Nitz
> How old is the oldest dump you recall having to go back to?

That was the one occurance, and since all dumps get filtered through me, 
anyway, I *knew* there was a saved one that was about 3 weeks old. 

Anyway, it took me long enough to get a consistent erep saving set up here, so 
that I can get back with erep records a while (15 months). As for dumps, it is 
usually that they weren't even written or suppressed by DAE when we need one.

>I'm curious; are you using an automated process to get SYSLOG to tape? 
Syslog gets assigned a class that is written to our default archive system that 
also archives all joblogs and assorted other files, so in production and in 
theory, I can go back ten years finding syslogs. I have been unable so far to 
convince the powers that be that operlog is much better as it definitely shows 
more (everythings after a $pjes2 during shutdown), so no one really cares about 
operlog. 

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
I ran into that one. You MUST run your SMPE Assembles pointing to the z/OS
V1.9 ASSEMBLER AND BINDER libraries.  They need to be JOBLIB or STEPLIB in
your SMPE libraries.  This is documented in the z/OS V1.9 PSP bucket

Otherwise the IPL blows up.

Lizette


> 
>I'll probably open an ETR in the morning, but I hope for some
> thoughts here. My Serverpac order is now several months old. So, I
> uploaded a report and ordered maintenance to current level. After some
> work with excludes, I get an APPLY CHECK with rc=0.
> 
>   So, I run the APPLY and I get several (more than a dozen) like this:
> 
> 
> 
> UA36789  HBB7740  GIM23911E 56   LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FAILED FOR
> MODULE ITTTL IN LMOD IEANUC01 IN THE NUCLEUS
> 
>  LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS 12.
> THE SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 000522. THE SYSPRINT
> 
>  FILE WAS SMP00111.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Messages as above, all the other PTFs (anything that doesn't touch
> NUCLEUS) go on clean. What am I missing?
> 
> 
> 
> As you might imagine, I'm a little reluctant to good forward with
> potential nucleus problems.
> 
> 
> 
> Running on a 1.7 driving system. Damn, should I be using the 1.9
> MIGLIB?
> 

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Re: Using COBOL to create a DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset

2008-07-22 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:45:36 +0200, Itschak Mugzach
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>No, but I would look into the manual for second opinion ;-)
>
>ITschak

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Re: Dyamic FTP Control Cards

2008-07-22 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
>There is an Input file which contains all the server details, In the job these
>server can be passed as symbolic parameters and then the control card for

You could split the server information into several members in a PDS and 
allocated the latter to the //NETRC DD, specifying the member name as a JCL 
variable.

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Re: Using COBOL to create a DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset

2008-07-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
No, but I would look into the manual for second opinion ;-) 

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Hi,

After I changed BLOCKTOKENSIZE to NOREQUIRE, the job ran fine.

Does anyone know of problems with changing BLOCKTOKENSIZE to NOREQUIRE?

Gadi

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What is the value of BLOCKTOKENSIZE in IGDSMS member of parmlib? 

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Hi,
 
We are starting to use datasets defined as DSNTYPE=LARGE.
 
When we use a COBOL program to create a LARGE file we get abend s213-15 on
module IFG0196J.
 
We are using a very old version of COBOL (VS COBOL II v1.3.2).
 
We are using z/OS v1.7.
 
Is there any way to make this work?
 
TIA
 
Gadi

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Re: Using COBOL to create a DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset

2008-07-22 Thread גדי בן אבי
Yes, it's a regular DD with DSNTYPE=LARGE. 


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גדי בן אבי wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> We are starting to use datasets defined as DSNTYPE=LARGE.
>  
> When we use a COBOL program to create a LARGE file we get abend s213-15 on 
> module IFG0196J.
>  
> We are using a very old version of COBOL (VS COBOL II v1.3.2).
>  
> We are using z/OS v1.7.
>  
> Is there any way to make this work?

1. How do you use COBOL to create dataset? Is it regular DD with 
DISP=(NEW,something)?
2. Why don't you use extended format PS?

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Re: Using COBOL to create a DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset

2008-07-22 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,

After I changed BLOCKTOKENSIZE to NOREQUIRE, the job ran fine.

Does anyone know of problems with changing BLOCKTOKENSIZE to NOREQUIRE?

Gadi

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Hello Gadi, 

What is the value of BLOCKTOKENSIZE in IGDSMS member of parmlib? 

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Hi,
 
We are starting to use datasets defined as DSNTYPE=LARGE.
 
When we use a COBOL program to create a LARGE file we get abend s213-15 on 
module IFG0196J.
 
We are using a very old version of COBOL (VS COBOL II v1.3.2).
 
We are using z/OS v1.7.
 
Is there any way to make this work?
 
TIA
 
Gadi

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Re: Using COBOL to create a DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset

2008-07-22 Thread R.S.

גדי בן אבי wrote:

Hi,
 
We are starting to use datasets defined as DSNTYPE=LARGE.
 
When we use a COBOL program to create a LARGE file we get abend s213-15 on module IFG0196J.
 
We are using a very old version of COBOL (VS COBOL II v1.3.2).
 
We are using z/OS v1.7.
 
Is there any way to make this work?


1. How do you use COBOL to create dataset? Is it regular DD with 
DISP=(NEW,something)?

2. Why don't you use extended format PS?

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Re: Dump management

2008-07-22 Thread Bruce Hewson
I keep dumps for 6 months, as I recall reading that is how long 
DAE "remembers" an SVC dump occurred...

Bruce Hewson

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Re: Using COBOL to create a DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset

2008-07-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Hello Gadi, 

What is the value of BLOCKTOKENSIZE in IGDSMS member of parmlib? 

Itschak  


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Hi,
 
We are starting to use datasets defined as DSNTYPE=LARGE.
 
When we use a COBOL program to create a LARGE file we get abend s213-15 on
module IFG0196J.
 
We are using a very old version of COBOL (VS COBOL II v1.3.2).
 
We are using z/OS v1.7.
 
Is there any way to make this work?
 
TIA
 
Gadi

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Using COBOL to create a DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset

2008-07-22 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,
 
We are starting to use datasets defined as DSNTYPE=LARGE.
 
When we use a COBOL program to create a LARGE file we get abend s213-15 on 
module IFG0196J.
 
We are using a very old version of COBOL (VS COBOL II v1.3.2).
 
We are using z/OS v1.7.
 
Is there any way to make this work?
 
TIA
 
Gadi

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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread e'Silva, Joaquim J
It is not directory space on the NUCLEUS perhaps?

UA36789 has been superceeded by UA40674.

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Subject: Some insight on 1.9 install


   I'll probably open an ETR in the morning, but I hope for some
thoughts here. My Serverpac order is now several months old. So, I
uploaded a report and ordered maintenance to current level. After some
work with excludes, I get an APPLY CHECK with rc=0.  

  So, I run the APPLY and I get several (more than a dozen) like this:

 

UA36789  HBB7740  GIM23911E 56   LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FAILED FOR
MODULE ITTTL IN LMOD IEANUC01 IN THE NUCLEUS 

 LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS 12.
THE SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 000522. THE SYSPRINT

 FILE WAS SMP00111.


 

Messages as above, all the other PTFs (anything that doesn't touch
NUCLEUS) go on clean. What am I missing?

 

As you might imagine, I'm a little reluctant to good forward with
potential nucleus problems. 

 

Running on a 1.7 driving system. Damn, should I be using the 1.9 MIGLIB?


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Re: Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Have a look at the SMPE SYSPROINT output, probebly locatged on JES spool. It
holds the Binder output. Try finding the mod or lmod.  

ITschak 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Some insight on 1.9 install

   I'll probably open an ETR in the morning, but I hope for some thoughts
here. My Serverpac order is now several months old. So, I uploaded a report
and ordered maintenance to current level. After some work with excludes, I
get an APPLY CHECK with rc=0.  

  So, I run the APPLY and I get several (more than a dozen) like this:

 

UA36789  HBB7740  GIM23911E 56   LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FAILED FOR
MODULE ITTTL IN LMOD IEANUC01 IN THE NUCLEUS 

 LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS 12.
THE SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 000522. THE SYSPRINT

 FILE WAS SMP00111.


 

Messages as above, all the other PTFs (anything that doesn't touch
NUCLEUS) go on clean. What am I missing?

 

As you might imagine, I'm a little reluctant to good forward with potential
nucleus problems. 

 

Running on a 1.7 driving system. Damn, should I be using the 1.9 MIGLIB?


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Some insight on 1.9 install

2008-07-22 Thread Gibney, Dave
   I'll probably open an ETR in the morning, but I hope for some
thoughts here. My Serverpac order is now several months old. So, I
uploaded a report and ordered maintenance to current level. After some
work with excludes, I get an APPLY CHECK with rc=0.  

  So, I run the APPLY and I get several (more than a dozen) like this:

 

UA36789  HBB7740  GIM23911E 56   LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FAILED FOR
MODULE ITTTL IN LMOD IEANUC01 IN THE NUCLEUS 

 LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS 12.
THE SEQUENCE NUMBER WAS 000522. THE SYSPRINT

 FILE WAS SMP00111.


 

Messages as above, all the other PTFs (anything that doesn't touch
NUCLEUS) go on clean. What am I missing?

 

As you might imagine, I'm a little reluctant to good forward with
potential nucleus problems. 

 

Running on a 1.7 driving system. Damn, should I be using the 1.9 MIGLIB?


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