Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
As I said, I wasn't directly involved, but I would expect so. We had a (just one) machine in the office at the time that could handle DVD-RAM. We gave the disk to our friendly IBM CE to deal with. Looked like any other DVD-RAM, so hopefully generic media might work. Shane ... On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 00:50 -0500, Lorne Dudley wrote: > Do you know how this appears to the OS/2 Warp machine ? > > Is it addressed with a drive symbol like F: in the standard HMC setup or > do I have to take some separate steps to get at it with the PCOMM > application which runs on the HMC machine ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Hi Esteemed Listers, I'm hoping this is a dumb question. My background is in system support, but I am currently working in Application support. We have a system which has been 'cloned' from another system. In the cloned system I can see the IMS Started tasks running in the DA screen in EJES. In the original system I cannot. I can see messages from the IMS Regions going to the log, but cannot see the tasks in the DA screen. The only difference I can see between the two EJES screens is that the one where I cannot see the IMS regions mentions ZIIP utilization, the other does not. Is there something in EJES I can connect to in order to see the IMS regions in the DA screen ? ... It could well be that I'm just being thick !! ... :-) Kind regards, Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Have you checked your "primary selections", "additional selections" as well as "set mask character" in the filter menu? The latter fooled be recently since I'm used to use "*" as the "generic character" whereas EJES defaults to " ". -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE AG -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply, I've just checked all those and they're good ... It's peculiar to me, because I can see the DB2 started tasks, but not the IMS regions ... Give my regards to anyone who remembers me at CS :-) ... Kind regards, Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Sent: 12 November 2009 10:50 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs Have you checked your "primary selections", "additional selections" as well as "set mask character" in the filter menu? The latter fooled be recently since I'm used to use "*" as the "generic character" whereas EJES defaults to " ". -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE AG -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
OT: New/Improved Website
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Antwort: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Issue the PTF command in each EJES to see if you're running the same release / ptf level. If not then you probably use different security definitions. Werner IBM Mainframe Discussion List schrieb am 12.11.2009 10:45:55: > The only difference I can see between the two EJES screens is that the > one where I cannot see the IMS regions mentions ZIIP utilization, the > other does not. > Kind regards, > Peter > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Thanks Werner, Tried that ... Same PTF level ... It's probably something I'm doing that's wrong ... Kind regards, Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Werner Kuehnel Sent: 12 November 2009 11:09 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Antwort: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs Issue the PTF command in each EJES to see if you're running the same release / ptf level. If not then you probably use different security definitions. Werner IBM Mainframe Discussion List schrieb am 12.11.2009 10:45:55: > The only difference I can see between the two EJES screens is that the > one where I cannot see the IMS regions mentions ZIIP utilization, the > other does not. > Kind regards, > Peter > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ESTAE/ESTAEX are anchored, where?
To be picky, itt's TCBSTABB not TCBSTAB, as there could be bits on in the first byte of TCBSTAB. And, FWIW, other ESTAE-type recovery routines (ARRs and IEAARRs) are determined from the linkage stack Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
Hi All. We are a 2 sysplex Members(SYSA & SYSB), Zos 1.9 running on Z10 CPC's. Last night we tried to IPL one of the members(SYSA) as a Monoplex with a set of parameters we used many times. The monoplex system abended with a wait state 40 rsn 52 (which indicate no lpa dsn's were found), after the abend we tried to re-ipl the lpar with original sysplex member and got during the nip msg in a loop: IEA255i CONSOLE INITIALIZATION DELAYED. AWAITING CONSOLE PARTITION CLEANUP OF SYSTEM SYSA. We tried: 1. IMLing the CPC (the other member is in other CPC) 2. Removing the system from the sysplex 3. Running IBM supplied utility IXCM2DEL to delete SYSA from SYSMCS. 4. At the end we need to do a sysplex wide IPL. We don't understand want can be the source of the problem. Any insights would be appriciated. Thanks in advanced Magen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM VRS Chaining
Jimmy, The NEXTVRS/ANDVRS must provide the name of a NAME VRS. There is currently no way to combine a VOLUME VRS with a DSNAME VRS. Depending on what you are trying to do, there may be other ways. If the vrses are used to specify a LOCATION which would cause movement, and it is this movement you want to control somehow, you could consider: - You can have a DSNAME vrs and a VOLUME vrs that both cause a volume to be vrs retained. You can control which of these two will actually control the movement using location PRIORITY. For example if DSNAME vrs states LOC(OFF1) and VOLUME vrs states LOC(HOME) it is down to location priority. You define this on LOCDEF and also have PRIORITY option on the VRS, so you could have the VOLUME vrs control where the volume moves and prevent movement. Perhaps if the volumes are logical/virtual you dont want movement. - If using logical volumes in 3494/TS7700 you can prevent logical volume movement by enabling STACKEDVOLUME support via EDGUTIL. - EDGHSKP DSTORE can be run for a subset of locations Mike WoodRMM Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
Several questions: 1. describe how you shut down SYSA before the first monoplex IPL attempt. 2. Name plexcfg from IEASYS for the first IPL attempt and the re-IPL attempt into the sysplex 3. Which couple data sets did you use a) during sysplex shutdown b) during attempted monoplex IPL c) during attempted re-IPL into the sysplex >Last night we tried to IPL one of the members(SYSA) as a Monoplex with >a set of parameters we used many times. >The monoplex system abended with a wait state 40 rsn 52 (which >indicate no lpa dsn's were found), after the abend we tried to re-ipl >the lpar with original sysplex member and got during the nip >msg in a loop: >IEA255i CONSOLE INITIALIZATION DELAYED. AWAITING CONSOLE PARTITION > CLEANUP OF SYSTEM SYSA. This message is issued when a 'surviving' system during IPL of another system detects that system's presence in the couple data set. I forgot what is checked, I believe they check a combination of sysname/lparname and some other config data. Regards, Barbara Nitz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SFTP and SCP
hi all, does anyone have positive experience with software supporting SFTP and SCP on mainframe? We already looked at Connect:Direct and Axway Synchrony Transfer. Maybe there exists more comfortable software including sequential scheduling. Thanks in advanced Juergen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP and SCP
z/OS supports these with Ported Tools. It's free but you have to order it. Jim Wangler 214-502-6445 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Juergen Keller Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SFTP and SCP hi all, does anyone have positive experience with software supporting SFTP and SCP on mainframe? We already looked at Connect:Direct and Axway Synchrony Transfer. Maybe there exists more comfortable software including sequential scheduling. Thanks in advanced Juergen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
I think that doing V XCF,SYSA.OFFLINE on the running system would have solved the problem. This should be done as part of the normal shutdown process. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Magen Margalit Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent Hi All. We are a 2 sysplex Members(SYSA & SYSB), Zos 1.9 running on Z10 CPC's. Last night we tried to IPL one of the members(SYSA) as a Monoplex with a set of parameters we used many times. The monoplex system abended with a wait state 40 rsn 52 (which indicate no lpa dsn's were found), after the abend we tried to re-ipl the lpar with original sysplex member and got during the nip msg in a loop: IEA255i CONSOLE INITIALIZATION DELAYED. AWAITING CONSOLE PARTITION CLEANUP OF SYSTEM SYSA. We tried: 1. IMLing the CPC (the other member is in other CPC) 2. Removing the system from the sysplex 3. Running IBM supplied utility IXCM2DEL to delete SYSA from SYSMCS. 4. At the end we need to do a sysplex wide IPL. We don't understand want can be the source of the problem. Any insights would be appriciated. Thanks in advanced Magen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
Did you point to the same or different couple datasets? >Last night we tried to IPL one of the members(SYSA) as a Monoplex with >a set of parameters we used many times. >The monoplex system abended with a wait state 40 rsn 52 (which >indicate no lpa dsn's were found), after the abend we tried to re-ipl >the lpar with original sysplex member and got during the nip >msg in a loop: >IEA255i CONSOLE INITIALIZATION DELAYED. AWAITING CONSOLE PARTITION > CLEANUP OF SYSTEM SYSA. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
גדי בן אבי pisze: I think that doing V XCF,SYSA.OFFLINE on the running system would have solved the problem. This should be done as part of the normal shutdown process. It would be hard to issue the command on system after unsuccesful IPL (wait state). Wild idea: turn off the console and re-IPL without it. The system would use another console if defined and available or "Operating system messages" on HMC. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorcw KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
The Monoplex uses a diffrent couplexx member and diffrent CDS's. Thanks in Advanced Magen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD
Hallo Readers, I am trying to understand the significance of coding (+0),DISP=OLD. A user is trying to restore a volume using (+0). The GDG dsn was created 2 weeks ago and it is still available. I thought that just (0),DISP=OLD is sufficient. I checked the manual - SA22-7597-10 - MVS JCL REFERENCE but I came up empty. I would appreciate your suggestions or explanations. Thanks in advance. __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
1. describe how you shut down SYSA before the first monoplex IPL attempt. --> SYSA was shutdown in a regular order. --> First IPL operator issued to msg: IEA101A SPECIFY SYSTEM PARAMETERS sys=0S insted of sysP=0S ( after he realized the mistake he did system reset and re-IPLED. 2. Name plexcfg from IEASYS for the first IPL attempt and the re-IPL attempt into the sysplex First IPL : I assume that "sys=os" was igonred and SYSA was Ipled with defaults. In this case PLEXCFG=MONOPLEX. Fallback IPL: The original member value = PLEXCFG=MULTISYSTEM 3. Which couple data sets did you use a) during sysplex shutdown production set b) during attempted monoplex IPL a diffrent set c) during attempted re-IPL into the sysplex production set -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
done as part of trying to remove SYSA from the plex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD
AFAIK, the two are equivalent. Why is this a concern to you? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD Hallo Readers, I am trying to understand the significance of coding (+0),DISP=OLD. A user is trying to restore a volume using (+0). The GDG dsn was created 2 weeks ago and it is still available. I thought that just (0),DISP=OLD is sufficient. I checked the manual - SA22-7597-10 - MVS JCL REFERENCE but I came up empty. I would appreciate your suggestions or explanations. Thanks in advance. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD
I am trying to trouble shoot a problem. The user's job received a : IEC214I 614-10,IGG0201W (tape problem) but for some reason the job did not abend but continued and called in the (-1). The job was using ExHPDM software to perform the restore. --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Hal Merritt wrote: From: Hal Merritt Subject: Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 12:49 AM AFAIK, the two are equivalent. Why is this a concern to you? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD Hallo Readers, I am trying to understand the significance of coding (+0),DISP=OLD. A user is trying to restore a volume using (+0). The GDG dsn was created 2 weeks ago and it is still available. I thought that just (0),DISP=OLD is sufficient. I checked the manual - SA22-7597-10 - MVS JCL REFERENCE but I came up empty. I would appreciate your suggestions or explanations. Thanks in advance. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP and SCP
In this context, (s)FTP is just a batch job (for outbound) and a dataset creation (inbound). Nothing remarkable. The job scheduler handles all just fine. The scheduler even knows to serialize transmissions to a given server and to pace work to avoid network overload. Properly done, a data transmission is just another job that runs and is managed in the same way as any other production job. This is just not a big deal; don't over complicate it. And don't spend a lot of money for something you already have. Don't know what SCP is. But it doesn't matter. We don't accept any process that cannot be fully automated and managed by exception by the job scheduler. Of course, if you are a competitor, then interactive PC based solutions are the way to go :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Juergen Keller Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SFTP and SCP hi all, does anyone have positive experience with software supporting SFTP and SCP on mainframe? We already looked at Connect:Direct and Axway Synchrony Transfer. Maybe there exists more comfortable software including sequential scheduling. Thanks in advanced Juergen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD
Does ExHPDM know about the "0" version? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD I am trying to trouble shoot a problem. The user's job received a : IEC214I 614-10,IGG0201W (tape problem) but for some reason the job did not abend but continued and called in the (-1). The job was using ExHPDM software to perform the restore. --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Hal Merritt wrote: From: Hal Merritt Subject: Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 12:49 AM AFAIK, the two are equivalent. Why is this a concern to you? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD Hallo Readers, I am trying to understand the significance of coding (+0),DISP=OLD. A user is trying to restore a volume using (+0). The GDG dsn was created 2 weeks ago and it is still available. I thought that just (0),DISP=OLD is sufficient. I checked the manual - SA22-7597-10 - MVS JCL REFERENCE but I came up empty. I would appreciate your suggestions or explanations. Thanks in advance. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD I am trying to trouble shoot a problem.=A0 The user's job received a : IEC214I 614-10,IGG0201W=A0(tape problem)=A0but for some reason the job did = not abend but continued and called in the (-1).=A0 The job was using ExHPDM= software to perform the restore. You need to check into the -10 part of the IEC214I message. It happens during CLOSE. The indication is, that the data set is there, but there is some problem handling the data set. There should be at least one other message issued. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Adding Tape Files
We know the number of files, etc., but I am really of the opinion it's not beneficial to us. When I took over DR we generated 122 save/restores. After our VM system was retired it was down to 35 using 3590E tapes. Now it's 2 Jaguars and one 3590E so that is a heck of a reduction. Not to mention we had issues getting things going at the last exercise. My intent is to let it be threenow to convince the boss! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Adding Tape Files
We are not using encryption, so that is not an issue. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP and SCP
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:06 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: SFTP and SCP > > In this context, (s)FTP is just a batch job (for outbound) > and a dataset creation (inbound). Nothing remarkable. The job > scheduler handles all just fine. The scheduler even knows to > serialize transmissions to a given server and to pace work to > avoid network overload. > > Properly done, a data transmission is just another job that > runs and is managed in the same way as any other production > job. This is just not a big deal; don't over complicate it. > And don't spend a lot of money for something you already have. > > Don't know what SCP is. But it doesn't matter. We don't > accept any process that cannot be fully automated and managed > by exception by the job scheduler. SCP is a "cp" (copy) command over an SSH channel. Eg: scp local.file u...@remote.com:/sub/dir/remote.file will copy the "local.file" to "/sub/dir/remote.file" on system remote.com, using "user" as the remote userid. > > Of course, if you are a competitor, then interactive PC based > solutions are the way to go :-) -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD
ExHPDM does know the (0) version, however, there maybe something in ExHPDM which would trigger the (-1) tape mount if the (0) fails. This is the first time I have seen this. --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Kreiter, Chuck wrote: From: Kreiter, Chuck Subject: Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 1:11 AM Does ExHPDM know about the "0" version? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD I am trying to trouble shoot a problem. The user's job received a : IEC214I 614-10,IGG0201W (tape problem) but for some reason the job did not abend but continued and called in the (-1). The job was using ExHPDM software to perform the restore. --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Hal Merritt wrote: From: Hal Merritt Subject: Re: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 12:49 AM AFAIK, the two are equivalent. Why is this a concern to you? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD Hallo Readers, I am trying to understand the significance of coding (+0),DISP=OLD. A user is trying to restore a volume using (+0). The GDG dsn was created 2 weeks ago and it is still available. I thought that just (0),DISP=OLD is sufficient. I checked the manual - SA22-7597-10 - MVS JCL REFERENCE but I came up empty. I would appreciate your suggestions or explanations. Thanks in advance. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Win 1 of 4 Sony home entertainment packs thanks to Yahoo!7. Enter now: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Z10 BC DNS Name
As well as keeping an eye on the IBM-MAIN archive, I receive a digest from Google Groups. I noticed text in a post supposedly in this thread which did *not* appear in the archives. This happens from time to time and, if the subject of the thread is of interest, I repost so that everyone can benefit from the contribution - in one way or another! This post looks like it should be shown since it supports in a practical context the theoretical approach I gave in my initial response. I'd think that you would want to use a name that reflects whatever standards you already have for other servers on the network. On my local LAN the servers typically have more than one DNS name. One is used to point to the physical device (for those clients that really *do* want to connect to a specific box. Other DNS names are used to identify specific applications without referring to a specific piece of hardware. For example there might be an ftp.mydomain.com and a "srv12345.mydomain.com". If I need the FTP server I use the ftp name, if I need to run a remote console I use the srv12345 name. Multi-NIC servers usually have one IP assigned to management, so that's the interface that gets the "srv12345" name. The contributor goes by the name of Don with an - unhelpful for the purposes of identification - e-mail address. He is otherwise an infrequent contributor to a "group" which has something to do with "apple". Perhaps, with such useful contributions to make, he may care to subscribe to IBM-MAIN and ensure his contributions can be seen by *all* subscribers. It seems, incidentally, that whatever the software is that runs on Don's servers - I could guess some software from Apple, it does not have the option to assign IP addresses independent of interfaces - virtual IP addresses (VIPAs) in the z/OS Communications Server IP component world - which is ideally what he would use for IP addresses to identify server applications to clients - or - to identify the IP node itself. - I was interested to check all posts supposedly in this thread as the thread is identified in "Google Groups": http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/t/92eaeef8d37e6ff9? hl=en in case there were other "lost contributions" such as Don's. Surprisingly the thread is initially identified as "Health Checker - LNKLST Dataset" from 4/11 - that'll be 11/4 in some quarters! - and, surprisingly, there are all of 35 posts! Then, on 5/11 (11/5), "Srinivas G" changed the thread to "VIO Error". I'm not quite sure how this is done but I suspect it involves pretending that you are responding to an existing post, in this case "Health Checker - LNKLST Dataset" and then changing the subject line in order to initiate a new thread. It seems that there is some internal linkage which at least "Google Groups" tries to use in order to maintain a thread - and so get thoroughly confused - except that it can identify the subject change. The thread then reverted to "Health Checker - LNKLST Datasets" on the same day courtesy of the original poster and then jumped back again to "VIO Error" where it stayed until, after a 5 day gap on 10/11 (11/10) "Srinivas G" kindly thanked all who had assisted him - I'm guessing, it could be "her" - with the topic of "VIO Error". And so on the same day probably ostensibly responding to perhaps his/her own "Thank You" post, "Srinivas G" initiates the thread I thought I was dealing with all along. We stay with "Z10 BC DNS Name" until a rather more legitimate change of subject is introduced as follows: "Discussion subject changed to "No mainframe dns : Was: RE: Z10 BC DNS Name" by Maarten Slegtenhorst". Subsequently we have a slightly irritating alternation but - either I don't know how so to manipulate Google Groups that I could get a more logical hierarchy of threads - or - Goggle Groups does not offer any such option. Chris Mason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Generally speaking, customers aren't allowed to do things like load drivers on any HMC/SE. Even if you do, they tend to be wiped the next time the HMC code is updated. What are you trying to upload? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lorne Dudley Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp Does anyone on the list have experience with a HMC that runs OS/2 Warp ? We have such a device in our configuration, along with a z890 2086 model 140 processor. We want to check out the possibility of an upload to a Disaster Recovery system using PCOMM, which exists on the OS/2 Warp machines HMC. Also on the OS/2 machine is a USB port into which we would like to load a memory stick for upload to the DR system. My problem is that I can't figure out how to get OS/2 to "see" the USB port. Does anyone know of any OS/2 commands that I can issue to see the configuration on the OS/2 Warp machine ? Do I have to issue a command to mount the USB device ? If so, what is the command. Does OS/2 Warp support memory sticks with the FATS file system ? Any assistance appreciated. Regards Lorne Dudley Queen's University Kingston, Ontario -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Hello Hal ! We are trying to upload JCL and restore software to start the disaster recovery exercise process. Regards Lorne Hal Merritt wrote: Generally speaking, customers aren't allowed to do things like load drivers on any HMC/SE. Even if you do, they tend to be wiped the next time the HMC code is updated. What are you trying to upload? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
In a message dated 11/12/2009 9:16:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, dudl...@queensu.ca writes: Hello Hal ! We are trying to upload JCL and restore software to start the disaster recovery exercise process. >> If you can't connect to the same HUB as the HMC I'd take it to my laptop and copy it to a CD? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
I'd go another route. For example, the supplied 'floor' system should have sample jobs that can be easily modified to load your initial volume(s). There are several other ways I have used to do this. Besides, you may not be able to predict what HMC version you might see. You are also assuming physical access to the HMC. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lorne Dudley Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp Hello Hal ! We are trying to upload JCL and restore software to start the disaster recovery exercise process. Regards Lorne Hal Merritt wrote: > Generally speaking, customers aren't allowed to do things like load drivers > on any HMC/SE. Even if you do, they tend to be wiped the next time the HMC > code is updated. > > What are you trying to upload? > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP Problem (was FTP Issue)
Des > ... I'll be damned if I fill my mailbox with all the traffic on this group. Well, I suggest you pay more attention to the text to which you are responding in future. I said absolutely nothing at all about e-mails, flooded with or otherwise. I referred to the IBM-MAIN archive: http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html When I care to see what may have been "going down" as I believe the vernacular has it these days, I refresh the window which I usually have open on the current month ordered with most recent posts at the top of the window - as a matter of personal preference. Sometimes as last happened on October 31st I think the list has gone unusually quiet - until I remember the month has changed - a Homer Simpson moment! It happens to act as a reminder - and catches recalcitrants - that I also subscribe to receiving the Google Groups digest. The maximum impact on my "mailbox" is one a day! Be aware that your selfish attitude is not guaranteed to get to any of us. I can't remember why or how I happen to subscribe to Google Groups but you are in a sense lucky that I do. > I figure someone will quote and reply if the response is worthwhile getting > it on the mail list. It takes unusual effort to integrate stray posts such as yours and I'm not sure I'll be inclined to bother in future. Chris Mason - On Nov 11, 9:01 pm, des...@verizon.net wrote: > chrisma...@belgacom.net (Chris Mason) writes: > >> Really selling the mailing list pretty hard there. > > > Out of the boundless kindness of my heart, I provided my best attempt at an > > answer to Gaur's question, a "problem" IMNSHO rather than an "issue", *and* > > made sure that it was posted where 100% of the list subscribers would see it > > rather than the I assume peculiar fraction who just happen to subscribe to the > > Google Groups facility. > > I'm not using Google Groups but I'll be damned if I fill my mailbox with > all the traffic on this group. So, I only get to a few of you, I'll get > by somehow. > > I figure someone will quote and reply if the response is worthwhile > getting it on the mail list. - On Nov 11, 8:57 pm, des...@verizon.net wrote: > bvandergr...@dow.com (van der Grijn, Bart , B) writes: > > > Chris, I believe the reference was to the ISPF Help panels (or actually, > > the Tutorial panels). On our system, if you press the help PF key on the > > primary menu and navigate to Appendix A1 (A;A) you will get an > > explanation of the Dynalloc return codes. > > Exactly. Quick and easy. > > F1 (Help), A (for appendicies), A (for appendix A DAIR), then press enter > once more for DARC Codes. Select the range of codes you want. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
I don't know of any way to do what you are trying to do with the HMC. There is no direct access to the operating system on the HMC, including command prompts etc. So, to do something outside of the HMC app seems unlikely, and definitely unsupported. If your disaster recovery site provides you with a starter system with attached workstations, then maybe just burning a CD or bringing a USB key along to access from a regular workstation might be the answer. Whatever you decide, has to be worked into your normal D/R process, so that updated jobs/procedures get off-site daily and/or weekly - including the updated CDROM or USB key. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp I'd go another route. For example, the supplied 'floor' system should have sample jobs that can be easily modified to load your initial volume(s). There are several other ways I have used to do this. Besides, you may not be able to predict what HMC version you might see. You are also assuming physical access to the HMC. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lorne Dudley Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp Hello Hal ! We are trying to upload JCL and restore software to start the disaster recovery exercise process. Regards Lorne This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Nuttall, Peter (P.) wrote: We have a system which has been 'cloned' from another system. In the cloned system I can see the IMS Started tasks running in the DA screen in EJES. In the original system I cannot. I can see messages from the IMS Regions going to the log, but cannot see the tasks in the DA screen. The only difference I can see between the two EJES screens is that the one where I cannot see the IMS regions mentions ZIIP utilization, the other does not. Is there something in EJES I can connect to in order to see the IMS regions in the DA screen ? ... It could well be that I'm just being thick !! ... :-) The presence of zIIP utilization information should not have an impact on which address spaces are shown on the Activity display. Rather, it simply means that one or more zIIPs are online to one or more of the LPARs from which information is being gathered. Issue the SRESET, XSEL OFF, and FIL OFF commands from the Activity display just to be sure you haven't defined any kind of filters that are preventing you from seeing the desired address spaces. If that doesn't help, check the log to see if the IMS messages you see are actually coming from the same system you're logged on to. If they're coming from another member in a multi-system JESplex, you might not have EJESCAS servers up and running on all images of the JESplex. If none of that helps, please send a note to supp...@phoenixsoftware.com and someone (maybe even I) will help you get to the bottom of your mystery. And, don't feel bad if it turns out to be user error. Our tech support group gladly answers "how to" questions as well as actual product defect submissions... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Edward Jaffe wrote: Issue the SRESET, XSEL OFF, and FIL OFF commands from the Activity display just to be sure you haven't defined any kind of filters that are preventing you from seeing the desired address spaces. Oops. How embarrassing. That should be SRESET, XSEL NOSAVE, and FIL OFF. :-[ --> == <---! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Hello David ! We have PCOMM on our HMC and can connect to TSO. I'm experimenting with using the upload option of PCOMM but so far haven't figured out how to read from any kind of input media. I'm at home now, but will shortly go to the office and see if PCOMM can see the DVD device on the HMC. Thanks to earlier responses for the idea. Regards Lorne Jousma, David wrote: I don't know of any way to do what you are trying to do with the HMC. There is no direct access to the operating system on the HMC, including command prompts etc. So, to do something outside of the HMC app seems unlikely, and definitely unsupported. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Jousma, David pisze: I don't know of any way to do what you are trying to do with the HMC. There is no direct access to the operating system on the HMC, including command prompts etc. So, to do something outside of the HMC app seems unlikely, and definitely unsupported. No, no, and no. Read carefully: OS/2 version is meant. You do have access to OS, you have access to command prompts, you can use facilities other than HMC application - to mention PCOMM, ftp, Netscape, etc. However - in fact I don't understand why should I rely on HMC as the PC station during DR. Is it so hard to have another PC? Last but not least: Contemporary versions of HMC are Linux based and indeed user has no access to OS. So - why to create some scenario which would become unusable after upgrade? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IPv6 or Regional registry IPv4 address exhaustion...
Edward You are addressing the wrong audience. RFC 1918 (private addresses) and RFC 1631 (network address translators) and successors have enabled most organisations which are "end-users" of the Internet to isolate themselves from concerns over the limited scope of the IPv4 addressing scheme. In that sense, the "end-user" organisations do not have to "implement" IPv6. What the "end-user" organisations do need to do is plan for the Internet Service Provider to which the organisation is attached implementing IPv6 since that is the part of the Internet which needs to be concerned over running out of addresses. Here's a reference which it might actually help to give: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion What I hoped to see was some discussion of how users in one "NAT domain" - like my house/office - got to talk to another "NAT domain" - like just about all my IP partners I would expect - when the network in between was IPv6 - and how we get there. If anyone has such a reference, please provide it. Chris Mason On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:04:42 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: >How many of you have implemented IPv6? Time grows short... > >http://penrose.uk6x.com/ > >-- >Edward E Jaffe >Phoenix Software International, Inc >5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 >Los Angeles, CA 90045 >310-338-0400 x318 >edja...@phoenixsoftware.com >http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
For those of you who think I overstate the case of IBM driving down bill rates and salaries, check out this posting on DICE for IBM's new facility in Dubuque, IA (watch the wrappage) http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
Doc Farmer wrote: We just finished a major upgrade of our website - check it out at http://www.InfoSecInc.com and let us know what you think. Many thanks! It looks great! I have two (hopefully constructive) comments: When you say "70% of the world's business data is *still* processed by a mainframe," it makes me question whether your organization supports the idea of trending off-platform. Ideally, we would like to increase beyond 70%. I recommend removing the word "still" from the sentence. Whose idea was it to use a punch card to represent leveraging existing investments? It's a nice graphic and I'm not saying it's a bad choice. But, I sure hope punch cards are not what most people imagine when they think of today's mainframe... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Thanks for the reply Ed, And thanks for clearing up the ZIIP utilization difference. I tried those commands but still no joy ... I also looked in the log but can't see another LPAR being mentioned in the messages ... There are some entries in the 'System Requests' option under the 'Resources' tab (just two lines as an example) : Cmd MsgID SysName JobName Message-Text sss ss/ s 1948 SYB7 SDIMST7C DFS996I *IMS READY* IMSW 1947 SYB1 SDIMSP1X HWSCI *IMS CONNECT READY* HWS1 SYB1 is the lpar my tsoid is logged onto and SYB7 is the test LPAR ... Could it be that these IMS regions have been somehow 'security' removed from appearing in the display ? Kind regards, Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: 12 November 2009 15:47 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs Edward Jaffe wrote: > Issue the SRESET, XSEL OFF, and FIL OFF commands from the Activity > display just to be sure you haven't defined any kind of filters that > are preventing you from seeing the desired address spaces. Oops. How embarrassing. That should be SRESET, XSEL NOSAVE, and FIL OFF. :-[ --> == <---! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Hello Radoslaw ! I appreciate your comments. This approach is one of a number of DR scenarios we are exploring. As suggested we will not depend on this single approach, but if we can get it working and the configuration exists it may be the easiest and quickest method to get started. Regards Lorne R.S. wrote: No, no, and no. Read carefully: OS/2 version is meant. You do have access to OS, you have access to command prompts, you can use facilities other than HMC application - to mention PCOMM, ftp, Netscape, etc. However - in fact I don't understand why should I rely on HMC as the PC station during DR. Is it so hard to have another PC? Last but not least: Contemporary versions of HMC are Linux based and indeed user has no access to OS. So - why to create some scenario which would become unusable after upgrade? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Nuttall, Peter (P.) wrote: There are some entries in the 'System Requests' option under the 'Resources' tab (just two lines as an example) : Cmd MsgID SysName JobName Message-Text sss ss/ s 1948 SYB7 SDIMST7C DFS996I *IMS READY* IMSW 1947 SYB1 SDIMSP1X HWSCI *IMS CONNECT READY* HWS1 SYB1 is the lpar my tsoid is logged onto and SYB7 is the test LPAR ... Could it be that these IMS regions have been somehow 'security' removed from appearing in the display ? Yes. It's quite easy, and not uncommon, for an installation to "security remove" certain objects from your view. This is usually done via internal security specifications (e.g., VXOWNR), but may also be done with SAF-based security rules (e.g., JESSPOOL). When you look on the Activity display after SRESET, do you see hundreds of address spaces including *MASTER*, PCAUTH, CONSOLE, GRS, VTAM, etc? Or are you seeing only a subset of what's out there? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
Doc Farmer wrote: >Thakns four corectign mi afwul speing... My chell specker said your speling is/are/maybe correct... ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Console Partition Cleanup - a bit urgent
Most likely when the system was IPL'd the first time, it reconnnected into your sysplex. The NIP selected IEASYS00 by default since there were no valid SYSP parameters specified. What does your IEASYS00 have in it? When the system was re-IPL'd the second system went into "lost system" recovery and was waiting for the "V XCF,SYSA,OFFLINE" command and its subsequent replies. You should have seen the messages about SYSA connecting to the Sysplex on SYSB during the first IPL. In your case it appears that SYSB recognized that a duplicate system was attempting to enter the Sysplex. The message about console cleanup pending was indicating system failure cleanup processing had not been completed. On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:43:37 -0600, Magen Margalit wrote: >done as part of trying to remove SYSA from the plex > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CICS VSAM journal question
Hi, I use autojournaling to analize UOW records. How could I know UOW bounderies? The bit designating "START OF UOW" together with the taskid is obviously "START TRANSACTION". Could I know something about "COMMIT" or "ROLLBACK" ? Arie Kremer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
You gotta love how it starts: Economy got you down? And then how it ends: Steady state mainframe support position requiring on-call and weekend coverage. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
> From: edja...@phoenixsoftware.com > When you say "70% of the world's business data is *still* processed by a > mainframe," it makes me question whether your organization supports the > idea of trending off-platform. Ideally, we would like to increase beyond > 70%. I recommend removing the word "still" from the sentence. I agree with Ed. I'd also recommend changing "70% of the world's business data is processed by a mainframe" to "70% of the world's business data is processed by mainframes". In other words, let people know there's at least two or more of them still out there. ;-) Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691815 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSSO in a sysplex
I think I have answered my own question: >I am only seeing messages in TSSO from other >members of the JES2 plex, and no messages from members of the other JES >plex. Shouldn't I see messages equally from all members of the sysplex? The hint came in the description of the WQE in the 'Using the Subsystem Interface' FM. The field WMJMFLG1, bit WMJMRISS indicates the message is an SVC reissue of a message that has already been processed by SVC WTO... Examples of using this indicator include messages that originate on one system (MVS sysplex), but are transported for display to another system. Since the systems from one of our JESplexen only route console messages to consoles on systems within the same JESplex, and the others likewise, no message traffic ever has to be passed to members of the other JESplex -- TSSO never sees them. Also, if the message is suppressed via MPF, it won't get passed to SSI function 9 on any other system other than the one it's issued on. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Hi August ! The processor is z890 2086 model 140. Regards Lorne August Carideo wrote: some of the older HMC's w/ Os2 came with 3270 cards the newer ones can and do infact communicate directly w/ the op systems, and can communicate w/ more than 1 LPAR etc if you were to loose ip , 3270 etc connectivity to the consoles the system will fall back to the HMC what CPU is the HMC you are discussing w/ Os2 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-(
The 80-column punch card is still haunting me... Setting up an infrastructure for some new development, I recently discovered (the "hard" way) that IEBUPDTE works only with LRECL <= 80. I find this to be an incredibly oppressive restriction. I now have need for IEBUPDTE function with LRECL > 80. Has someone written a utility, perhaps available via CBT tape, that performs IEBUPDTE-like functions with LRECL > 80? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
Sometimes, I can be such a twit! *sigh* Thakns four corectign mi afwul speing... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:56:42 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Doc Farmer wrote: > >>you check my Twitter page ( http://twiter.com/DocFarmer ) take a look at >my background image! > >Hey Doc, be a nice tweet and correct that spelling error.. ;-D > >It must be http://twitter.com/DocFarmer > >Groete / Greetings >Elardus Engelbrecht > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
I bet IBM is paying $30-40/hr but the parasitic contract agency is taking its lofty cut, because the war on drugs has made cocaine just so darned expensive for their headhunters. And you really can't trust tweakers, so whatareyagonnado. If IBM were swallowed by the ground, it would be truly just. But no, business majors will continue to fuck people over because who needs to innovate and elevate the human condition, when you can make good margins by bringing everyone else down. Scott On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Patrick Lyon wrote: > You gotta love how it starts: > Economy got you down? > > > And then how it ends: > Steady state mainframe support position requiring on-call and weekend > coverage. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 09:58 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: > Generally speaking, customers aren't allowed to do things like load > drivers on any HMC/SE. Well, back in the day when we had that 7060 on the floor, we had an OS/2 HMC, which code ran on the embedded deCeleron. There wasn't anything magical about it, nothing that kept you from messing with it in all kinds of invasive ways. So we were "allowed", yeah, and I was OS/2 literate back then. But it scared me half to death every time I touched the HMC, knowing that the complex (such as a 7060 is) was dependent on that OS/2 image. I didn't even install the webserver - the most I ever messed with that box was getting the ethernet cards working as a backup to the Bustech MAN. From there on it was strictly hands off, threaten your co-workers with bodily harm if they approach without reverence, and hold your own breath as you walk by the thing. Like the Motie Mediators, we juggle priceless eggs in variable gravity. I'm *happy* the Linux HMC is locked down. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP and SCP
You could look into "Cyberfusion Integration Suite" from Proginet. Their website is http://www.proginet.com/file-transfer-products Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - From: "Juergen Keller" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: SFTP and SCP hi all, does anyone have positive experience with software supporting SFTP and SCP on mainframe? We already looked at Connect:Direct and Axway Synchrony Transfer. Maybe there exists more comfortable software including sequential scheduling. Thanks in advanced Juergen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-(
PDSLOAD from the CBT (file 093) can handle LRECL <=256. Regards, John K Ed Jaffe of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 11/12/2009 11:13:25 AM: > > The 80-column punch card is still haunting me... > > Setting up an infrastructure for some new development, I recently > discovered (the "hard" way) that IEBUPDTE works only with LRECL <= 80. I > find this to be an incredibly oppressive restriction. I now have need > for IEBUPDTE function with LRECL > 80. > > Has someone written a utility, perhaps available via CBT tape, that > performs IEBUPDTE-like functions with LRECL > 80? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
the "F" I can figure out for myself; and maybe the "Y" (you?) and the "G" (get?) ; but what do the "B" and the "K" and the "M" stand for ?? http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Hi Ed, That must be it then ... I'm only seeing a subset ... No *MASTER*, PCAUTH, CONSOLE ... Etc. Seems strange to me that they would do that for the IMS regions and not the DB2 subsystem started tasks ? ... But thanks for the help. Kind regards, Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: 12 November 2009 16:35 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs Nuttall, Peter (P.) wrote: > There are some entries in the 'System Requests' option under the > 'Resources' tab (just two lines as an example) : > > Cmd MsgID SysName JobName Message-Text > > sss ss/ > s > 1948 SYB7 SDIMST7C DFS996I *IMS READY* IMSW > > 1947 SYB1 SDIMSP1X HWSCI *IMS CONNECT READY* HWS1 > > > SYB1 is the lpar my tsoid is logged onto and SYB7 is the test LPAR ... > > Could it be that these IMS regions have been somehow 'security' removed > from appearing in the display ? > Yes. It's quite easy, and not uncommon, for an installation to "security remove" certain objects from your view. This is usually done via internal security specifications (e.g., VXOWNR), but may also be done with SAF-based security rules (e.g., JESSPOOL). When you look on the Activity display after SRESET, do you see hundreds of address spaces including *MASTER*, PCAUTH, CONSOLE, GRS, VTAM, etc? Or are you seeing only a subset of what's out there? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
Ed, I'll pass a note along to the boss about "still" but I think (personally) that's reading a lot into it. Remember, a lot of folks have heard for years, nay decades, that the mainframe is "dead". Lazarus was only raised from the grave once, but the mainframe has been declared dead more times than I've had hot dinners (and it's STILL here). As to the punch card, c'mon! That's a shout-out/gift to us old-timers! Heck, if you check my Twitter page ( http://twiter.com/DocFarmer ) take a look at my background image! I still use punch cards in some of my presentation backgrounds. If I could afford it, I'd buy a box of 2,000 manila cards and have them punched into business cards (EBCDIC coding, of course!). Besides, when most people think of mainframes, they don't think of the equipment. They think of the sysprogs, horn-rimmed glasses repaired with white tape at the bridge of the nose, plastic pocket protectors, stale pizza and late-in-life virginity! They're too young to remember blinking lights, 1403's with the hoods coming up, write-protect rings, breadboards, and decolators. Whereas we, the pioneers, who ran our mainframes by (and on) candle-light and had to string our own core if we wanted more memory, deserve a *bit* of nostalgia... Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to grab my walker, hobble on over to the 029, and start getting my next program ready. Many thanks! Doc On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:11:43 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Doc Farmer wrote: >> We just finished a major upgrade of our website - check it out at >> http://www.InfoSecInc.com and let us know what you think. Many thanks! >> > >It looks great! I have two (hopefully constructive) comments: > >When you say "70% of the world's business data is *still* processed by a >mainframe," it makes me question whether your organization supports the >idea of trending off-platform. Ideally, we would like to increase beyond >70%. I recommend removing the word "still" from the sentence. > >Whose idea was it to use a punch card to represent leveraging existing >investments? It's a nice graphic and I'm not saying it's a bad choice. >But, I sure hope punch cards are not what most people imagine when they >think of today's mainframe... > >-- >Edward E Jaffe >Phoenix Software International, Inc >5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 >Los Angeles, CA 90045 >310-338-0400 x318 >edja...@phoenixsoftware.com >http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
Tom...Ya Gotta Be, uhh, Kidding Me!! Bonno, Tuco wrote: the "F" I can figure out for myself; and maybe the "Y" (you?) and the "G" (get?) ; but what do the "B" and the "K" and the "M" stand for ?? http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
On 12 Nov 2009 09:47:54 -0800, ds...@hotmail.com (Dave Salt) wrote: >I agree with Ed. I'd also recommend changing "70% of the world's business data >is processed by a mainframe" to "70% of the world's business data is processed >by mainframes". In other words, let people know there's at least two or more >of them still out there. ;-) Sort of like saying, "Every x seconds a woman has a baby - and she needs to be stopped". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
Gotta Be Kidding Me??? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bonno, Tuco Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:04 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground the "F" I can figure out for myself; and maybe the "Y" (you?) and the "G" (get?) ; but what do the "B" and the "K" and the "M" stand for ?? http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2 /12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&r ating=99 Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
After Google stalking the Veritas owners, it seems that one of the co-founders (Dan White) is a douchy IBM outsourcing exec. So, Veritas is just a satellite of IBM's IT Stalinization. Bring everyone down and when they bitch, use your contract agency to kick em out and keep the legal stuff from dirtying IBM's white-and-blue Open Source image. Scott On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Scott wrote: > I bet IBM is paying $30-40/hr but the parasitic contract agency is taking > its lofty cut, because the war on drugs has made cocaine just so darned > expensive for their headhunters. And you really can't trust tweakers, so > whatareyagonnado. > > If IBM were swallowed by the ground, it would be truly just. But no, > business majors will continue to fuck people over because who needs to > innovate and elevate the human condition, when you can make good margins by > bringing everyone else down. > > Scott > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Patrick Lyon wrote: > >> You gotta love how it starts: >> Economy got you down? >> >> >> And then how it ends: >> Steady state mainframe support position requiring on-call and weekend >> coverage. >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >> Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html >> > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Why pursue a strategy that isn't going to work going forward? Why not do it right the first time? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lorne Dudley Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp I'm making some progress here. I explored a little beyond PCOMM and find that I can click on Icon View, then Drives, and see the configuration. I had overlooked the fact that there was a floppy disk drive on the HMC and I can see a regular FATS floppy disk on drive A: I was able to go in and view files on the floppy and edit a text file. Next test will be to try uploading using PCOMM. Regards Lorne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-(
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-( > > The 80-column punch card is still haunting me... > > Setting up an infrastructure for some new development, I recently > discovered (the "hard" way) that IEBUPDTE works only with > LRECL <= 80. I > find this to be an incredibly oppressive restriction. I now have need > for IEBUPDTE function with LRECL > 80. > > Has someone written a utility, perhaps available via CBT tape, that > performs IEBUPDTE-like functions with LRECL > 80? > > -- > Edward E Jaffe UNIX patch supports >80 characters lines. It is "IEBUPDTE-like" fvso IEBUPDTE. Perhaps a bit more criteria? -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EJES ZIIP and IMS STCs
Nuttall, Peter (P.) wrote: Seems strange to me that they would do that for the IMS regions and not the DB2 subsystem started tasks ? ... But thanks for the help. It should be rather trivial for an administrator to provide you with the access you seek...at least from a technical (E)JES standpoint. [Customer internal politics is something over which I have no control... ;-) ] -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
some of the older HMC's w/ Os2 came with 3270 cards the newer ones can and do infact communicate directly w/ the op systems, and can communicate w/ more than 1 LPAR etc if you were to loose ip , 3270 etc connectivity to the consoles the system will fall back to the HMC what CPU is the HMC you are discussing w/ Os2 "R.S." To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp 11/12/2009 11:02 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List Jousma, David pisze: > I don't know of any way to do what you are trying to do with the HMC. > There is no direct access to the operating system on the HMC, including > command prompts etc. So, to do something outside of the HMC app seems > unlikely, and definitely unsupported. No, no, and no. Read carefully: OS/2 version is meant. You do have access to OS, you have access to command prompts, you can use facilities other than HMC application - to mention PCOMM, ftp, Netscape, etc. However - in fact I don't understand why should I rely on HMC as the PC station during DR. Is it so hard to have another PC? Last but not least: Contemporary versions of HMC are Linux based and indeed user has no access to OS. So - why to create some scenario which would become unusable after upgrade? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wp acony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwy szenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwy szeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-(
copy file from PDS to zFS file. run sed script to perform updates. copy file back to PDS === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com === From: Edward Jaffe To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 11/12/2009 12:05 PM Subject: IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-( Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List The 80-column punch card is still haunting me... Setting up an infrastructure for some new development, I recently discovered (the "hard" way) that IEBUPDTE works only with LRECL <= 80. I find this to be an incredibly oppressive restriction. I now have need for IEBUPDTE function with LRECL > 80. Has someone written a utility, perhaps available via CBT tape, that performs IEBUPDTE-like functions with LRECL > 80? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-(
John P Kalinich wrote: PDSLOAD from the CBT (file 093) can handle LRECL <=256. Thanks, John. I'll check it out. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
Yah gotta be f'n kidding me! --Original Message-- From: Bonno, Tuco Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sent: Nov 12, 2009 12:04 Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground the "F" I can figure out for myself; and maybe the "Y" (you?) and the "G" (get?) ; but what do the "B" and the "K" and the "M" stand for ?? http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
YGBFKM You've Gotta Be Freakin' Kidding Me (polite form) source: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/YGBFKM "Bonno, Tuco" Sent by: IBM To Mainframe IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Discussion Listcc Subject Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground 11/12/2009 09:04 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List the "F" I can figure out for myself; and maybe the "Y" (you?) and the "G" (get?) ; but what do the "B" and the "K" and the "M" stand for ?? http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
At a guess I would say 'You Gotta Be F*** Kidding Me' ? :-) ... Kind regards, Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bonno, Tuco Sent: 12 November 2009 17:04 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground the "F" I can figure out for myself; and maybe the "Y" (you?) and the "G" (get?) ; but what do the "B" and the "K" and the "M" stand for ?? http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2 /12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&r ating=99 Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
Typical They want a "master craftsman" for a pre-apprentice pay rate. Wonder what the headhunter is billing IBM? -jc- > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground > > You gotta love how it starts: > Economy got you down? > > > And then how it ends: > Steady state mainframe support position requiring on-call and weekend > coverage. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:04:23 -0500, Bonno, Tuco wrote: and maybe the "Y" (you?) and the "G" (get?) ; but what do the "B" and the "K" and the "M" stand for ?? > You Got To Be Kidding Me -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
Doc Farmer wrote: >you check my Twitter page ( http://twiter.com/DocFarmer ) take a look at my background image! Hey Doc, be a nice tweet and correct that spelling error.. ;-D It must be http://twitter.com/DocFarmer Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEBUPDTE Supports Only LRECL <=80 :-(
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:13:25 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: >The 80-column punch card is still haunting me... > Welcome to the 20th century. Doc Farmer may be right. >Setting up an infrastructure for some new development, I recently >discovered (the "hard" way) that IEBUPDTE works only with LRECL <= 80. I >find this to be an incredibly oppressive restriction. I now have need >for IEBUPDTE function with LRECL > 80. > >Has someone written a utility, perhaps available via CBT tape, that >performs IEBUPDTE-like functions with LRECL > 80? > Have you considered /bin/patch? (But the GNU versions are better.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
I'm making some progress here. I explored a little beyond PCOMM and find that I can click on Icon View, then Drives, and see the configuration. I had overlooked the fact that there was a floppy disk drive on the HMC and I can see a regular FATS floppy disk on drive A: I was able to go in and view files on the floppy and edit a text file. Next test will be to try uploading using PCOMM. Regards Lorne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
Doc Farmer wrote: Besides, when most people think of mainframes, they don't think of the equipment. They think of the sysprogs, horn-rimmed glasses repaired with white tape at the bridge of the nose, plastic pocket protectors, stale pizza and late-in-life virginity! Wow! I'm glad I played in rock bands! :-D -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
It almost sounds like a strategy to produce evidence for a congressman to introduce a bill to open the H1B floodgates. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Pinnacle wrote: > For those of you who think I overstate the case of IBM driving down bill > rates and salaries, check out this posting on DICE for IBM's new facility in > Dubuque, IA (watch the wrappage) > > > http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 > > Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. > > Regards, > Tom Conley > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- Glen J. Gasior (630) 712-2104 Chicago, Illinois 60611 "Leadership that improves the process of change" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SFTP and SCP
I feel like I should create a Mainframe FAQ. http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html Requires IBM Ported Tools. It's free and you may optionally buy support. Scott On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Joel Wolpert wrote: > You could look into "Cyberfusion Integration Suite" from Proginet. > Their website is http://www.proginet.com/file-transfer-products > > > Joel Wolpert > Performance and Capacity Planning consultant > WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com > - Original Message - From: "Juergen Keller" < > juergen.kel...@deutsche-boerse.com> > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main > > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:48 AM > Subject: SFTP and SCP > > > > hi all, >> >> does anyone have positive experience with software supporting SFTP and SCP >> on mainframe? We already looked at Connect:Direct and Axway Synchrony >> Transfer. Maybe there exists more comfortable software including >> sequential >> scheduling. >> >> Thanks in advanced >> >> Juergen >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >> Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html >> >> > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
Microsoft's been on that beggar-thy-neighbor train for years and even Republicans haven't been willing to go that far. Perhaps the more refined, religulous breed that seems to be taking over will be more sympathetic. WWJD? Of course he would, in bizarro America. Scott On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Glen Gasior wrote: > It almost sounds like a strategy to produce evidence for a congressman to > introduce a bill to open the H1B floodgates. > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Pinnacle >wrote: > > > For those of you who think I overstate the case of IBM driving down bill > > rates and salaries, check out this posting on DICE for IBM's new facility > in > > Dubuque, IA (watch the wrappage) > > > > > > > http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 > > > > Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. > > > > Regards, > > Tom Conley > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > > > -- > Glen J. Gasior > (630) 712-2104 > Chicago, Illinois 60611 > "Leadership that improves the process of change" > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
I've been contacted about that one a couple of times, I told them to get lost in no uncertain terms. I told them if they want to triple the salary, then we'll be getting close. Bobbie Justice -Original Message- >From: Pinnacle >Sent: Nov 12, 2009 11:15 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Subject: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground > >For those of you who think I overstate the case of IBM driving down bill >rates and salaries, check out this posting on DICE for IBM's new facility in >Dubuque, IA (watch the wrappage) > >http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 > >Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. > >Regards, >Tom Conley > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM dr iving main frame syst ems progra mmers into the groun d
It is at least possible that this offering has another purpose, that it is intended for use in establishing that there is no local talent available to fill these position so that they can then be filled instead by third-world recruitment. A per diem rate of $160 for the skills required is not so much abusive as delusive. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USB on HMC running OS/2 Warp
Hello Hal ! Our strategy is to use all possible options available at a particular time and to choose the best and most efficient at that time. The fact that a particular option may not be available in the future does not bother us as long as we have other options to choose from. Regards Lorne Hal Merritt wrote: Why pursue a strategy that isn't going to work going forward? Why not do it right the first time? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
I'm 6'2", former football & basketball player, and 240lb. Yes, I wear glasses (bifocals), 52 years of age. And, I do not fit that stereotype. I have nothing left to say! --Original Message-- From: Edward Jaffe Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sent: Nov 12, 2009 12:38 Subject: Re: OT: New/Improved Website Doc Farmer wrote: > Besides, when most people think of mainframes, they don't think of the > equipment. They think of the sysprogs, horn-rimmed glasses repaired with > white tape at the bridge of the nose, plastic pocket protectors, stale pizza > and late-in-life virginity! Wow! I'm glad I played in rock bands! :-D -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
The ad is from Veritas Solutions So if I remember what contracting companies do IBM charges one rate. Then a company like Veritas Solutions is contracted by IBM and then they have to pay even less because they need to make a profit. Which is probably why the hourly rate is SOOO LW So the best action is to deal directly with IBM and not its subcontractors. Lizette > >It almost sounds like a strategy to produce evidence for a congressman to >introduce a bill to open the H1B floodgates. > >On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Pinnacle wrote: > >> For those of you who think I overstate the case of IBM driving down bill >> rates and salaries, check out this posting on DICE for IBM's new facility in >> Dubuque, IA (watch the wrappage) >> >> >> http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=302&dockey=xml/1/2/12d903249e783b221ccbc5dd10af5...@endecaindex&source=19&FREE_TEXT=racf&rating=99 >> >> Pay rate $18-20/hour. YGBFKM. >> > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Electric Light Orchestra IBM song, in 1981?
Hello, I just stumbled across "Yours Truly 2095". It was a song by Electric Light Orchestra. A brief search shows it has been released on the "Time" album, in 1981. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOBtgVA3iv8&feature=related lyrics: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/electric+light+orchestra/yours+truly+2095_20045477.html "I met someone who looks a lot like you She does the things you do But she is an IBM." In fact the whole song is about a fictional product - but the company is named, and quite real. Unusual for sci fi, where the company is normally fictitious as well (although sometimes names get retrofitted to real companies, hello U.S. Robotics). I just wonder - how did that happen? Was this actually paid for by IBM? 1981 is the year when the original PC was released. IBM was headed to the mass market, a novelty for it. Perhaps this was an early attempt of what we now know as viral marketing? (Or did ELO just do it by themselves? But would not their lawyers be worried?) A colleague has pointed out that, funnily enough, the 2095 was a *real* product. The 360/95, very old news by 1981, but most powerful for its time - they might have read of it in an old source? -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Opinion time: SMF data in XML format?
OK, probably nobody else is interested in this sort of thing. But I would like to process the SMF data off of the z/OS system. Most likely on a Linux system. And most likely in JAVA. Already proves that I'm brain damaged. But one thing that I like is that the RACF SMF data can be converted from "binary" format to XML using an exit in IFASMFDP. It would be helpful to me if the parties responsible for the generation of a particular SMF record would also supply a program which could do the same. Now, why don't I do it? I probably could. But then maintenance would be my responsibility. And so I'd need to monitor every PTF for any change to the SMF records that I am interested in. IOW: I'm a lazy SOB. Does anybody else thing this might be useful? Or do most of you not care because you use MXG and SAS? We no longer have SAS on the mainframe, but we do have it on a Windows box that I am supposed to have access to. I'll talk to the person here who has been doing the MXG work on it to learn how to use it. But I want to take the data home, in XML, because I have a screaming PC there (i7-920) which is not as frustrating to use as the lower powered desktops here. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format?
John, if this is a flat-layout SMF record (which I thought RACF cut) then it oughtn't to be hard to code up a DFSORT job to emit XML. Paging Mark Nelson... :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter ID: MartinPacker "One Tribe Y'all" :-) Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format?
John, If you have any business intelligence products onsite, you might want to talk to those folks. I FTPd SMF data and built a Cognos cube, while defining record types as I needed them. Fairly straightforward process. And yes, record maintenance was my responsibility. I can't remember if XML format was an option, as your requirement specifies. Another BI product might, though. David -Original Message- From: McKown, John To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, Nov 12, 2009 4:07 pm Subject: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format? OK, probably nobody else is interested in this sort of thing. But I would like to process the SMF data off of the z/OS system. Most likely on a Linux system. And most likely in JAVA. Already proves that I'm brain damaged. But one thing that I like is that the RACF SMF data can be converted from "binary" format to XML using an exit in IFASMFDP. It would be helpful to me if the parties responsible for the generation of a particular SMF record would also supply a program which could do the same. Now, why don't I do it? I probably could. But then maintenance would be my responsibility. And so I'd need to monitor every PTF for any change to the SMF records that I am interested in. IOW: I'm a lazy SOB. Does anybody else thing this might be useful? Or do most of you not care because you use MXG and SAS? We no longer have SAS on the mainframe, but we do have it on a Windows box that I am supposed to have access to. I'll talk to the person here who has been doing the MXG work on it to learn how to use it. But I want to take the data home, in XML, because I have a screaming PC there (i7-920) which is not as frustrating to use as the lower powered desktops here. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT: New/Improved Website
The operative words here, Ted, are "most people"... These are the same people who watch "The Big Bang Theory" on CBS, and have watched all the "Revenge of the Nerds" movies. Sadly, people like my sisters... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:33:24 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >I'm 6'2", former football & basketball player, and 240lb. >Yes, I wear glasses (bifocals), 52 years of age. > >And, I do not fit that stereotype. > >I have nothing left to say! >--Original Message-- >From: Edward Jaffe >Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >Sent: Nov 12, 2009 12:38 >Subject: Re: OT: New/Improved Website > >Doc Farmer wrote: >> Besides, when most people think of mainframes, they don't think of the >> equipment. They think of the sysprogs, horn-rimmed glasses repaired with >> white tape at the bridge of the nose, plastic pocket protectors, stale pizza >> and late-in-life virginity! > >Wow! I'm glad I played in rock bands! :-D > >-- >Edward E Jaffe >Phoenix Software International, Inc >5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 >Los Angeles, CA 90045 >310-338-0400 x318 >edja...@phoenixsoftware.com >http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > >- >Too busy driving to stop for gas! > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO >Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format?
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Packer > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format? > > John, if this is a flat-layout SMF record (which I thought > RACF cut) then > it oughtn't to be hard to code up a DFSORT job to emit XML. > > Paging Mark Nelson... :-) > > Cheers, Martin > > Martin Packer Too bad that what I really want is all the SMF type 30 subtypes. ICETOOL cannot handle them. Hum, I wonder if FileAID can. I'll need to look at that. But then I'll get yelled at for wasting CPU. We are in "lock down" mode on CPU to reduce our 4hr rolling average as much as possible to reduce our software bill. Which, of course, means that I likely couldn't run the IBM utility either. We're using Group Capacity to cap ourselves to 48 MSUs out of 66 (z9BC-T02). Management wants to actually downgrade the z9 to like an R02 or lower because not all our software vendors allow sub-capacity billing. It's getting cold here and nobody wants to buy any coal (calling Mr. Scrooge!). Meanwhile the govt is convinced that they can spend their way out of debt. Thank God for the Chinese! (and isn't that a weirdie, depending on a Communist government to support us?). "I'm so confused!" (Vinnie Barbarino / Welcome back, Kotter). -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format?
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Purdy > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:29 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format? > > John, > > If you have any business intelligence products onsite, you > might want to talk to those folks. I FTPd SMF data and built > a Cognos cube, while defining record types as I needed them. > Fairly straightforward process. And yes, record maintenance > was my responsibility. > > I can't remember if XML format was an option, as your > requirement specifies. Another BI product might, though. > > David Well, I could just download the raw SMF data. I do know how to process it in Java. But it is a real PITA. And, as I said, I'm lazy. Uh, make that "efficient". -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format?
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:38:04 -0600, McKown, John wrote: We're using Group Capacity to cap ourselves to 48 MSUs out of 66 Then it is capped - that is as high as she will go. Another one of Vinnie's sayings was "It's so weeerd, it's so weeerd!" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
Or become a contractor to IBM yourself. Then you can try to make a profit by offering your subcontractors considerably more than Veritas does. If IBM is trying to drive down the price of Sysprogs and they succeed, then they will have reduced the total cost of ownership of a mainframe system to a mainframe customer, and perhaps they will be able to sell more mainframe systems that way. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715 Email: bi...@mainstar.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground So if I remember what contracting companies do IBM charges one rate. Then a company like Veritas Solutions is contracted by IBM and then they have to pay even less because they need to make a profit. Which is probably why the hourly rate is SOOO LW So the best action is to deal directly with IBM and not its subcontractors. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format?
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:45 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Opinion time: SMF data in XML format? > > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:38:04 -0600, McKown, John > wrote: > > We're using Group Capacity to cap ourselves to 48 MSUs out of 66 > > Then it is capped - that is as high as she will go. > > Another one of Vinnie's sayings was "It's so weeerd, it's so weeerd!" True. But some of our vendors still change us at the 66 MSU level because they change according to the maximum possible MSU for the box. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
problem...until companies...vendors like SAS / CA / Sterling and the like pull prices down...JUST BECAUSE IT IS M/F there still is a problem..Companies like MacKinney get it ... too bad there are not enough of them out there.. From: Bill Fairchild To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 11/12/2009 03:47 PM Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Or become a contractor to IBM yourself. Then you can try to make a profit by offering your subcontractors considerably more than Veritas does. If IBM is trying to drive down the price of Sysprogs and they succeed, then they will have reduced the total cost of ownership of a mainframe system to a mainframe customer, and perhaps they will be able to sell more mainframe systems that way. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715 Email: bi...@mainstar.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground So if I remember what contracting companies do IBM charges one rate. Then a company like Veritas Solutions is contracted by IBM and then they have to pay even less because they need to make a profit. Which is probably why the hourly rate is SOOO LW So the best action is to deal directly with IBM and not its subcontractors. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
