Re: z990s still running?
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 9/7/2010 10:13 PM, Ron Hawkins wrote: I occasionally get copied on questions regarding support for OS390 on our (HDS) storage products. I think the most recent was a question about support for OS/390 1.2 Wow! The oldest OS I've seen recently was OS/390 2.4 in a stabilized site that has been trying to get off the mainframe for over a decade. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ On the Hercules groups they have some sites running MVS 3.8 on emulators. 50 mips per thread on current boxes. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEC020I 001-1
If you did not explicitly create a PDS but allowed IEWL and JCL to create this library, is it possible a PDS-E was created instead? A program that tries to read a program object from a PDS-E if it were a load module from a PDS (by using BSAM) will abend with s001-01 . You are rigth: it is a PDSE. I figured that wouldn't really make a difference and I could just use that as 'test' input. I'll try a normal PDS or (PDSE) to see if I can read that. Thanks for the tip! So how does one 'read' a program object? Fred! - ATTENTION: The information in this electronic mail message is private and confidential, and only intended for the addressee. Should you receive this message by mistake, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Please inform the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or opening it. Messages and attachments are scanned for all viruses known. If this message contains password-protected attachments, the files have NOT been scanned for viruses by the ING mail domain. Always scan attachments before opening them. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Extended Beta program for TSSO replacement Product
Hi All, The extended Beta program for SyzMPF/z (cool name huh?) is getting ready to start. This is the product that will eventually replace all of TSSO's capabilities. Anyone who is interested should send an email to clientsupp...@syzygyinc.com (or to me), the original Beta program was limited to 23 sites and is now over. This extended Beta limited to 100 sites and is expected to last about a month. It's intent is to really give the product a thorough workout. The newsworthy part of this is that participants in the Beta Program get the product at no cost for a year. The 23 sites who already participated are not eligible to participate, (but they already get free copies anyway). Once 100 sites area accepted the Beta will close, there is no preference for existing customers of the other Syzygy products, this one is open to everyone and is first-come-first-served. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
Hi I understand not so simple, but the problem is why not , at last in processor level If you compare the effort to get a unique key with the large number of new, sometimes exotic , machine instructions you can ask Why it is so. Why don't get a counter from the CPU or with some simple system call ? On 9/7/2010 10:29 PM, john gilmore wrote: The OP asked for a perhaps SYSPLEX-wide facility. The CF-based approach I suggested is probably a minimal way to meet this requirement. For those of you who have not looked at such problems in any detail itr is perhaps appropriate to recall that SYSPLEX-wide data sharing poses significant, non-trivial problems. It is not neurosurgery, but It certainly cannot be done in COBOL, which, whatever its other merits, is not a systems-implementation language. You must write authorized code; and you need the appropriate design and testing skills, as I made clear in my original post. If you don't have them you should think about getting an ISV who does to do the job for you. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email tolists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives athttp://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF REXX exec to read the actual job
Hi Yes, it is a normal batch job On 9/7/2010 6:42 PM, Itschak Mugzach wrote: Are you sure this is a job and not an STC? An STC might run under the master address space and does not need Jes2 to start. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi SDSF REXX try to read the actual , running job and got JCT NOT AVAILABLE , but it can read the active from anybody else. (sorry, I'm hyperactive today) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
zMan pisze: Just curious -- I came across a customer who is still running on a z990, with no plans to upgrade or move off of z. That surprised me: I'd've bet that the only z990s still running were in companies who are certain they're turning off the z system (no matter how long it takes) and are thus willing to spend far more $$$ on maintenance because they don't want to enter into a new lease. At the risk of asking folks to air dirty laundry, anyone still running on hardware that old? Care to explain why? I'm aware of 9672 G5 machine still working on production. Just to remind: z/990 - z/900 - 9672 G6 - 9672 G5. Reason: IT'S WORKING AND ITS PROFITABLE. No growth perspective. Hardware maintenance? No service contract. Service per call is ordered from third party vendor. Another example: z-Previous machines in DR centre. Cold backup. No HW service contract as well. Third example: z/990 on production. No HW service contract, but another z/990 is standing nearby the first one. A plan for HW failure is simple: use another machine. No sysplex due to application reasons, historical reasons, lack of timers, license reasons (more MIPS = more $$$), and finally no business requirements. In fact the only real competition for IBM mainframes are ...older IBM mainframes. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
zMan pisze: On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Earlier this year, we got a weekend support call from one of the world's largest corporations because one of our products was abending 0C1 under z/OS 1.4 running on a 9672 at a DR site. The program took a path through our zHPF I/O driver that contained some z/Architecture (aka grande) instructions. Gave them a ZAP to force use of the old EXCP path and all was well. Lesson learned: there is some very old hardware still being used out there... Indeed. DR site has 9672? That's just asking for a DRD*. And talk about slow! What is that, 178MIPS? Per CP. The largest 9672 is 1790 MIPS. Sounds better? Oh, Parallel Sysplex was invented then, so le's count several machines. Of course I agree it's not state of the art DR. ;-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On 9/8/2010 12:42 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: Just got a good example of journalistic incompetence. http://twitpic.com/2lqaqh The accompanying map is clipped, but appears to locate Bornholm on the western side Sweden. Must be a secret astronaut training base G Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 9/8/2010 12:42 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: Just got a good example of journalistic incompetence. http://twitpic.com/2lqaqh The accompanying map is clipped, but appears to locate Bornholm on the western side Sweden. Must be a secret astronaut training base G Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT Surprised no one has found it in all the time since Tycho was training there. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
Miklos, Generating a sysplex-wide token value is a very simple process - but having a counter that is only updated (or reset) by permitted tasks on each system presents much more of a programming challenge and would in turn require some sort of runtime options to dictate how the counter is handled in normal and abnormal circumstances (for example, what to do if the creating TCB/ASID/SYSTEM goes away unexpectedly). If you do not care about the counter contents and just want some sort of permanently increasing value then you might get some usage from the STCK/STCKE instruction. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: 08 September 2010 07:37 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter Hi I understand not so simple, but the problem is why not , at last in processor level If you compare the effort to get a unique key with the large number of new, sometimes exotic , machine instructions you can ask Why it is so. Why don't get a counter from the CPU or with some simple system call ? On 9/7/2010 10:29 PM, john gilmore wrote: The OP asked for a perhaps SYSPLEX-wide facility. The CF-based approach I suggested is probably a minimal way to meet this requirement. For those of you who have not looked at such problems in any detail itr is perhaps appropriate to recall that SYSPLEX-wide data sharing poses significant, non-trivial problems. It is not neurosurgery, but It certainly cannot be done in COBOL, which, whatever its other merits, is not a systems-implementation language. You must write authorized code; and you need the appropriate design and testing skills, as I made clear in my original post. If you don't have them you should think about getting an ISV who does to do the job for you. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email tolists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives athttp://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 9/8/2010 12:42 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: Just got a good example of journalistic incompetence. http://twitpic.com/2lqaqh The accompanying map is clipped, but appears to locate Bornholm on the western side Sweden. Must be a secret astronaut training base G Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT Surprised no one has found it in all the time since Tycho was training there. Maybe he had Galileo convert a diving bell to a space capsule? And actually built his helicopter to retrieve it after a launch. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote: Hi Sometimes I would need a simple SYSTEM/SYSTEMS/SYSPLEX wide counter, for every call gives back the next number. (Seen maybe in CICS ?) If not updated too frequently, with a shared catalog or volume, just a counter in a file? Open, read, increment, rewrite, close in under 0.1 second. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
REXX : how to determine the member name of a DD card
Hi all ! I have this JCL : //STEP11 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE NOPREF TEST15 /* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSEXEC DD DSN=P3CUN.YANN.REXX,DISP=SHR //IN DD DSN=P3CUN.YANN.JCL(TEST14),DISP=SHR I need, in my rexx, to retrieve the member name of the DD CARD IN. With the LISTDSI, I just have the pds name. I don't want to add a paramèter. And I don't want to make an execio on another dd card. Any idea ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM Volume Delete fails.
A better subject would have been 'IDCAMS volume delete fails', since this is not RMM related. It does appear to be tough to find out the authorization required to use IDCAMS to update VOLCATs. In my experience, as well as the STGADMIN.IGG.LIBRARY (required using IDCAMS) you also need the correct authority to the catalog. For example, for RMMs' EDGSPLCS utility that supports changes to the VOLCAT via CBRXLCS macro, we document this catalog authority is needed. (http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2c880/17.12?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0I.bksDT=20090527133850) The Managing Catalogs books is also clear about what authorization is needed to delete catalog entries. Mike Wood RMM Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group
Thanks to Rob and the others who replied. I may have erred on the side of brevity in my original question. I am working on a problem from one of our customers. This customer added a volume to a storage group, but we did not report a decrease in the percentage used across a group of volumes. I was trying to confirm that this was in fact due to no allocation being done. Back to the technical level, I am looking at the SGD rather than the VLD. Is there a reference in IBM documentation for the first allocation condition? On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:39:25 +, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Rick I believe you might be referring to the fact that SMS will not report on space usage or capacity for the volume in the VLD until the first allocation is done. What does ISMF say about the volume from the active config? Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX : how to determine the member name of a DD card
Hi! You can go from TCB to TIOT and then from TIOT to JFCB. In TIOT there is a table of all DD statements of the job, In each table entry there is pointer to approp. JFCB. In JFCB there are entries( one on more) for all DSN-s on this DD statement (1 where concatenation occurs), possibly. with member name (when dsn has form dsnname(membername)). /*===REXX=2010/09/02===KF===*/ /*---*/ /* Build stem zbiory_joba remembering names all DD statem. of */ /* job and for each dd statement DDNAME and name(s)(DSN) data */ /* sets (possibly with membername). */ /* Names - where on DD there are concatenated data sets. */ /*---*/ buld_jobs_files: /*---*/ /* zbiory_joba.nr_dd.ddn- names of following jobs joba.(8b) */ /* zbiory_joba.nr_dd.ile-- number of concatenated data sets */ /* on this DD statement. */ /* zbiory_joba.nr_dd.nr_dsn.dsn-- dsn-s on DD number */ /* nr_dd. */ /* zbiory_joba.nr_dd.nr_dsn.mem-- member (or 8 spaces) for */ /* DSN number nr_dd. */ /* (DSN=dsnname(membername) */ /* */ /*---*/ /* TCB - task control block */ /* TIOT - task input/output table */ /* JFCB - Job File Control Block */ /*---*/ /* TCB+12 ---TIOT */ /* TIOT+24 first DD entry */ /* +4(8 bytes=DDNAME) */ /* +12(3 bytes -swa coded JFCB address) */ /* | */ /* | */ /* V */ /* JFCB (44 bytes=DSN) */ /* JFCB+44 (8bytes=membername or spaces) */ /*===*/ /* start of current TCB - address 540 */ tcbadr=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(540),4)) /* from TCB to TIOT */ adrtioa=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(tcbadr+12),4)) /**/ /* In TIOA table of all DD entries */ /* current jobstep. */ /**/ /* skip first 24 bytes (not interesting for us) */ adrtioa=adrtioa+24 /* address of first DD segment */ dd_count=0 dsn_count=0 do forever /* do until entry length 0 */ entrylen=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(adrtioa),1)) /* len of current entry */ /* on 1 byte! */ if entrylen=0 then leave adrdd=adrtioa+4 ddname=STORAGE(D2X(adrdd),8) if ddnamethen do /* not concatenated or first in conc. */ dd_count=dd_count+1 zbiory_joba.dd_count.ddn=ddname dsn_count=1 zbiory_joba.dd_count.ile=1 end else do /* DD = spaces - concatenation */ dsn_count=dsn_count+1 /* count conc. data sets */ zbiory_joba.dd_count.ile=dsn_count end /* from TIOT entry to JFCB */ /* JFCB address on 3 bytes! (and sva coded!) */ adrjfcb=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(adrtioa+12),3)) /* add left zreoes 8 digits (4 bytes)*/ if LENGTH(adrjfcb)=2 then adrjfcb='00'||adrjfcb if LENGTH(adrjfcb)=3 then adrjfcb='0'||adrjfcb else if LENGTH(adrjfcb)=4 then adrjfcb=''||adrjfcb else if LENGTH(adrjfcb)=5 then adrjfcb='000'||adrjfcb else if LENGTH(adrjfcb)=6 then adrjfcb='00'||adrjfcb else if LENGTH(adrjfcb)=7 then adrjfcb='0'||adrjfcb /* uncode JFCB address */ if adrjfcb//16 15 then adrjfb=adrjfcb+16 else do NUMERIC DIGITS 10 /* bo max. to 7FFF */ tcb=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(540),4)) jscb=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(tcb+180),4)) qmpl=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(jscb+244),4)) qmat=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(qmpl+24),4)) do forever if adrjfcb65536 then do qmat=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(qmat+12),4)) adrjfcb=adrjfcb-65536; end else do adrjfcb=C2D(STORAGE(D2X(qmat+adrjfcb+1),4))+16 leave end end end /* now adrjfcb is really JFCB address */ /* DSN- (jfcb+0)and member (or 8 spaces)-(jfcb+44) */ dsnname=STRIP(STORAGE(D2X(adrjfcb),44)) member=STRIP(STORAGE(D2X(adrjfcb+44),8)) zbiory_joba.dd_count.dsn_count.dsn=dsnname /* nazwa membra (o ile podano dsn=filename(membername)),lub 8 spacji*/ zbiory_joba.dd_count.dsn_count.mem=member /* next dd entry in TIOT */ adrtioa=adrtioa+entrylen /* next dd entry */ end /* forever len0 ( TIOT ) */ /* return */ novalue: say 'Niezainicjowana zmienna w linii 'SIGL exit 22 failure: say 'Blad komendy w linii 'SIGL exit 33 /* Koniec zrodla */ regards Karol Filipowicz Poland 2010/9/8 CUNY Yann yc...@externe.generali.fr Hi all ! I have this JCL : //STEP11 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=0M //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE NOPREF TEST15 /* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSEXEC DD DSN=P3CUN.YANN.REXX,DISP=SHR //IN DD DSN=P3CUN.YANN.JCL(TEST14),DISP=SHR I need, in my rexx, to retrieve the member name of the DD CARD IN. With the LISTDSI, I just have the pds name. I don't want to add a paramèter. And I don't want to make an execio on another dd card. Any idea ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group
Rick I do not believe there is anything specifically documented, however I have seen this behaviour occur on *many* systems over many years during my MXI freeware days - and if I remember correctly I added this foible to my FAQ section as so many people noticed it. You can sorta understand why this happens as SMS is trying to reduce overhead and only updates the SGRP space during allocation processing in a while you have the hood up way. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Humburg Sent: 08 September 2010 12:04 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Visibility of New Volume in Storage Group Thanks to Rob and the others who replied. I may have erred on the side of brevity in my original question. I am working on a problem from one of our customers. This customer added a volume to a storage group, but we did not report a decrease in the percentage used across a group of volumes. I was trying to confirm that this was in fact due to no allocation being done. Back to the technical level, I am looking at the SGD rather than the VLD. Is there a reference in IBM documentation for the first allocation condition? On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:39:25 +, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Rick I believe you might be referring to the fact that SMS will not report on space usage or capacity for the volume in the VLD until the first allocation is done. What does ISMF say about the volume from the active config? Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Why is an airplane better than a submarine? I'd like to know whether you plan to travel under the ice or over it before answering the question. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) I sure would not want to to experience a pressurization loss in an airplane near Bolivia or Tibet. In that case the pilot is required to descend to 10,000 ft above sea level. Problem is, the runways in those areas are about 13,000 above sea levels, and planes are not good at moving through solid rock. Submariner to pilot: We've never left one of ours up there. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
STATOPT
Just setting up some VTAM definitions for TAF sessions and want to use the STATOPT statement but this does not seem to be documented anywhere. I presume that it should be coded on the last line as: * STATOPT='stuff' as removing the comment * and adding continuation characters causes problems but leaving it there seems okay. Does this actually get used anywhere or is it just a comment? Sebastian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STATOPT
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sebastian Welton Just setting up some VTAM definitions for TAF sessions and want to use the STATOPT statement but this does not seem to be documented anywhere. I presume that it should be coded on the last line as: * STATOPT='stuff' as removing the comment * and adding continuation characters causes problems but leaving it there seems okay. Does this actually get used anywhere or is it just a comment? I think (but not sure) that the Netview Status Monitor reads it (as a comment). -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Datamation issue coining term nybble?
On 09/07/2010 08:32 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 7 Sep 2010 15:14:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: ---snip-- For those who are not familiar with it, Datamation used to have some excruciatingly funny articles, some of which were collected under the title Faith, Hope and Parity. I didn't think much of their news coverage, but the humor was priceless. -unsnip- I particularly remember their description of the Postal System Input Buffer Device, in one of their April issues. If you can find a copy of the book A Stress Analysis of a Strapless Evening Gown, it's in there. Speaking of humor, does anyone know if the appendix to the Westinghouse DOS Dump Restore program is available on-line. I am still trying to figure out how it ever got past the legal department. BJF - Botched Job Foreground is just one of the definitions. The error scenario with companies doing research in Filet of Old Gnu was hilarious. Clark Rick I afraid we finally canned our copy a decade ago, but it was the only DOS manual we retained after migrating from DOS, and we kept it for the entertainment value for over a decade after leaving DOS. As I recall it also had a lengthy, humorous, and irreverent discussion about how you couldn't believe IBM's track listing utilities because they lied about the contents of the count fields and displayed what IBM thought should be there rather than the actual contents, which in some cases was very significant. -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, ARjcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:04:29 -0400, George Henke wrote: I was just a lowly applications COBOL programmer at Bankers Trust when Bob Graham suddenly appeared there, fresh out of Brown with a degree in Computer Science, and morphed HASP into ASP. My understanding was that ASP and HASP were developed separately, and that ASP predated HASP. Did I get it wrong? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
On 09/08/2010 02:35 AM, Rob Scott wrote: Miklos, Generating a sysplex-wide token value is a very simple process - but having a counter that is only updated (or reset) by permitted tasks on each system presents much more of a programming challenge and would in turn require some sort of runtime options to dictate how the counter is handled in normal and abnormal circumstances (for example, what to do if the creating TCB/ASID/SYSTEM goes away unexpectedly). If you do not care about the counter contents and just want some sort of permanently increasing value then you might get some usage from the STCK/STCKE instruction. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: 08 September 2010 07:37 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter Hi I understand not so simple, but the problem is why not , at last in processor level If you compare the effort to get a unique key with the large number of new, sometimes exotic , machine instructions you can ask Why it is so. Why don't get a counter from the CPU or with some simple system call ? On 9/7/2010 10:29 PM, john gilmore wrote: The OP asked for a perhaps SYSPLEX-wide facility. The CF-based approach I suggested is probably a minimal way to meet this requirement. For those of you who have not looked at such problems in any detail itr is perhaps appropriate to recall that SYSPLEX-wide data sharing poses significant, non-trivial problems. It is not neurosurgery, but It certainly cannot be done in COBOL, which, whatever its other merits, is not a systems-implementation language. You must write authorized code; and you need the appropriate design and testing skills, as I made clear in my original post. If you don't have them you should think about getting an ISV who does to do the job for you. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA ... Rob, When using any technique other than a unique counter you have to beware of unexpected effects caused by a change in hardware or a change in transaction volume. We have had cases in the past of CICS transactions using a unique value derived from TOD value (they always want a unique value with fewer bits than TOD) suddenly consuming ten times the expected CPU resource on a new box. The application had a spin loop retrying when a non unique value was found which could be executed many more times on the faster processor before the least significant bit they were using changed. We have also had cases where a quasi-pseudo random value was generated (I call it quasi because I'm sure no formal attempt was made to see if it passed any of the customary randomness tests) and used as a unique key, retrying if the key was already in use. This worked fine as long key range was very large compared to the number of entries, but you can guess what happened to performance when the number of records increased greatly over time and an attempt to reuse a unique key became a common rather than a rare event. A counter is the only way to guarantee uniqueness with the fewest number of bits. And in both the examples referenced above the transaction rate was way too high to consider maintaining a counter value in some external file. -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, ARjcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Possible DFSORT problem?
We are having a problem with a COBOL internal sort. If we run the job with no PARM=, the job abends with U4082-2. If it runs with PARM='TRAP(OFF)', it abends with S0C4-38 in ICEF64A. The latter dump has the following indicative dump: SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4 REASON CODE=0038 TIME=09.01.18 SEQ=26947 CPU= ASID=005D PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D2001 80060D28 ILC 6 INTC 38 NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND NAME=UNKNOWN DATA AT PSW 00060D22 - E2E3D6D9 C540D21D 40006004 AR/GR 0: /_8005D88E 1: 0020/_0005F530 2: /1199_0002 3: /1199_0004 4: /_00074B00 5: /_00060D28 6: /11A1_0588 7: /0008_0584 8: /_0001 9: /_00060CD8 A: /_050D7056 B: /_85145028 C: /_050D6CC0 D: /_0005F000 E: /_850D70B2 F: /_0004 END OF SYMPTOM DUMP I have a SYSMDUMP from both runs. I am indeed running in AMODE(64). The instruction abending is D2 1D 4006 6004. As you can see, R6 has a non-zero value, 11A1, in the high word of the 64-bit register. And the SYSMDUMP show the TRNE as 11A1_ . So, do I have a LE problem or a DFSORT problem? That is, to which should I open a PMR? I'm thinking DFSORT. I don't see anything like this in IBMLink. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES2 vs. JES3 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab SNIPPAGE I sure would not want to to experience a pressurization loss in an airplane near Bolivia or Tibet. In that case the pilot is required to descend to 10,000 ft above sea level. Problem is, the runways in those areas are about 13,000 above sea levels, and planes are not good at moving through solid rock. Submariner to pilot: We've never left one of ours up there. SNIP They tell us to avoid thunderstorms by 20 Nautical miles or better. The convective currents with the Cumulonimbus, hail, and the like can make for a very bad day. And we are also told to avoid Cumulogranite at all costs. Encountering Cumulogranite could wreck your whole day. Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible DFSORT problem?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Possible DFSORT problem? We are having a problem with a COBOL internal sort. If we run the job with no PARM=, the job abends with U4082-2. If it runs with PARM='TRAP(OFF)', it abends with S0C4-38 in ICEF64A. The latter dump has the following indicative dump: SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4 REASON CODE=0038 TIME=09.01.18 SEQ=26947 CPU= ASID=005D PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D2001 80060D28 ILC 6 INTC 38 NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND NAME=UNKNOWN DATA AT PSW 00060D22 - E2E3D6D9 C540D21D 40006004 AR/GR 0: /_8005D88E 1: 0020/_0005F530 2: /1199_0002 3: /1199_0004 4: /_00074B00 5: /_00060D28 6: /11A1_0588 7: /0008_0584 8: /_0001 9: /_00060CD8 A: /_050D7056 B: /_85145028 C: /_050D6CC0 D: /_0005F000 E: /_850D70B2 F: /_0004 END OF SYMPTOM DUMP I have a SYSMDUMP from both runs. I am indeed running in AMODE(64). The instruction abending is D2 1D 4006 6004. As you can see, R6 has a non-zero value, 11A1, in the high word of the 64-bit register. And the SYSMDUMP show the TRNE as 11A1_ . So, do I have a LE problem or a DFSORT problem? That is, to which should I open a PMR? I'm thinking DFSORT. Um, and you are running in 64-bit mode with COBOL how, exactly? I had no idea that was a supported COBOL option yet. In any case, I would recommend switching back to 31-bit addressing mode before invoking SORT. I have a strong suspicion that LE would react badly due to its assumption that any call from a COBOL program can only be 31-bit. Peter -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need a simple counter
The STCKE value is guaranteed to be unique with the bounds of a sysplex (as long as you don't shrink the significant number of bits). Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: 08 September 2010 14:26 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter On 09/08/2010 02:35 AM, Rob Scott wrote: Miklos, Generating a sysplex-wide token value is a very simple process - but having a counter that is only updated (or reset) by permitted tasks on each system presents much more of a programming challenge and would in turn require some sort of runtime options to dictate how the counter is handled in normal and abnormal circumstances (for example, what to do if the creating TCB/ASID/SYSTEM goes away unexpectedly). If you do not care about the counter contents and just want some sort of permanently increasing value then you might get some usage from the STCK/STCKE instruction. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: 08 September 2010 07:37 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need a simple counter Hi I understand not so simple, but the problem is why not , at last in processor level If you compare the effort to get a unique key with the large number of new, sometimes exotic , machine instructions you can ask Why it is so. Why don't get a counter from the CPU or with some simple system call ? On 9/7/2010 10:29 PM, john gilmore wrote: The OP asked for a perhaps SYSPLEX-wide facility. The CF-based approach I suggested is probably a minimal way to meet this requirement. For those of you who have not looked at such problems in any detail itr is perhaps appropriate to recall that SYSPLEX-wide data sharing poses significant, non-trivial problems. It is not neurosurgery, but It certainly cannot be done in COBOL, which, whatever its other merits, is not a systems-implementation language. You must write authorized code; and you need the appropriate design and testing skills, as I made clear in my original post. If you don't have them you should think about getting an ISV who does to do the job for you. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA ... Rob, When using any technique other than a unique counter you have to beware of unexpected effects caused by a change in hardware or a change in transaction volume. We have had cases in the past of CICS transactions using a unique value derived from TOD value (they always want a unique value with fewer bits than TOD) suddenly consuming ten times the expected CPU resource on a new box. The application had a spin loop retrying when a non unique value was found which could be executed many more times on the faster processor before the least significant bit they were using changed. We have also had cases where a quasi-pseudo random value was generated (I call it quasi because I'm sure no formal attempt was made to see if it passed any of the customary randomness tests) and used as a unique key, retrying if the key was already in use. This worked fine as long key range was very large compared to the number of entries, but you can guess what happened to performance when the number of records increased greatly over time and an attempt to reuse a unique key became a common rather than a rare event. A counter is the only way to guarantee uniqueness with the fewest number of bits. And in both the examples referenced above the transaction rate was way too high to consider maintaining a counter value in some external file. -- Joel C. Ewing, Fort Smith, ARjcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible DFSORT problem?
On 9/8/2010 8:29 AM, McKown, John wrote: We are having a problem with a COBOL internal sort. If we run the job with no PARM=, the job abends with U4082-2. If it runs with PARM='TRAP(OFF)', it abends with S0C4-38 in ICEF64A. The latter dump has the following indicative dump: SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=0C4 REASON CODE=0038 TIME=09.01.18 SEQ=26947 CPU= ASID=005D PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D2001 80060D28 ILC 6 INTC 38 NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND NAME=UNKNOWN DATA AT PSW 00060D22 - E2E3D6D9 C540D21D 40006004 AR/GR 0: /_8005D88E 1: 0020/_0005F530 2: /1199_0002 3: /1199_0004 4: /_00074B00 5: /_00060D28 6: /11A1_0588 7: /0008_0584 8: /_0001 9: /_00060CD8 A: /_050D7056 B: /_85145028 C: /_050D6CC0 D: /_0005F000 E: /_850D70B2 F: /_0004 END OF SYMPTOM DUMP I have a SYSMDUMP from both runs. I am indeed running in AMODE(64). The instruction abending is D2 1D 4006 6004. As you can see, R6 has a non-zero value, 11A1, in the high word of the 64-bit register. And the SYSMDUMP show the TRNE as 11A1_ . So, do I have a LE problem or a DFSORT problem? That is, to which should I open a PMR? I'm thinking DFSORT. I don't see anything like this in IBMLink. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) John, It occurs to me to ask: what version of COBOL are you using? There have been a lot of problems if you run 4.2 without all the requisite maintenance levels on z/OS and LE. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: O/T IBM to Ship World's Fastest Computer Chip
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 9/8/2010 12:42 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: Just got a good example of journalistic incompetence. http://twitpic.com/2lqaqh The accompanying map is clipped, but appears to locate Bornholm on the western side Sweden. Must be a secret astronaut training base G Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT Surprised no one has found it in all the time since Tycho was training there. Maybe he had Galileo convert a diving bell to a space capsule? And actually built his helicopter to retrieve it after a launch. -- And a Chinese built solid rocket (firecracker) to lift the space capsule? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
I would look into the functions that JES3 offers that JES2 does not offer, and if you need any of these functions then go with JES3. But unless you have a VERY compelling reason, then JES2 is probably the better and easier to maintain option (IMHO). I've worked with both, and JES3 can be challenging for JCL and for operators... C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: JES2 vs. JES3 In 4c86a688.7060...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/07/2010 at 10:54 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: Theorethical case: If you start from scratch, then you should choose JES2. Nonsense; if you start from scratch, you should analyze which one best meets your needs. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Job Numbers rolling over
In some SMF from a customer I see Job Numbers rolling over - i.e. Starting at 1 again - around midnight. And this happens when the old Job Numbers never approached the limit. (I only have overnight 1/2 September so don't know if this is regular.) I'm wondering how this could be... Some kind of restart (cold really needed) or $T NUM are the two methods I know of. I'm not just interested in the mechanism but also what people think are useful practices. Likewise this IS JES2 but JES3-related answers would also be interesting. (Facebook users will have seen me witter on about analysing Job Numbers to see which jobs the scheduler threw into the hopper at the same tiem - else I wouldn't be looking at Job Numbers in the first place.) Thanks, Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEC020I 001-1
In aadad469c0429c4fb23ce1486e5c10da3d82a2a...@ing.com, on 09/08/2010 at 08:09 AM, Fred van der Windt fred.van.der.wi...@mail.ing.nl said: So how does one 'read' a program object? The BINDER has an API. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
In aanlktik0mw_2qradj6gqvfjkxjbu7olb=sjimyert...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/08/2010 at 01:03 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: On the Hercules groups they have some sites running MVS 3.8 on emulators. That's the new stuff. What about the OS/360 turnkey disk? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Datamation issue coining term nybble?
In 4c86b8ee.3040...@ync.net, on 09/07/2010 at 05:13 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said: If you can find a copy of the book A Stress Analysis of a Strapless Evening Gown, it's in there. It though that the articles there were from The Worm Runners Digest. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM so rt maybe i n for some competiti on?
In snt113-w8ed985e54b4b9eb6a069cc6...@phx.gbl, on 09/07/2010 at 09:39 PM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com said: Radix sorts, internal or external, are certainly useful; but they are not new. The first edition of Knuth's TACP, volume 3, Sorting and Searching, that I have on my shelves was copyrighted in 1973; and it contains full treatments of them. ObQoheleth They were old hat by 1973; FAP used a binary radix sort. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Job Numbers rolling over
I would say that someone is doing a $T NUM command to reset this. We used to have a command that reset it to 1 every week, but I saw no need to continue this, so we stopped that practice. I say unless there is a good reason to do it, I'd just let them roll around. I do of another shop that resets theirs to x where the x is 1-7 based on the day of the week. This works for them as they run a couple thousand jobs a day. C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Job Numbers rolling over In some SMF from a customer I see Job Numbers rolling over - i.e. Starting at 1 again - around midnight. And this happens when the old Job Numbers never approached the limit. (I only have overnight 1/2 September so don't know if this is regular.) I'm wondering how this could be... Some kind of restart (cold really needed) or $T NUM are the two methods I know of. I'm not just interested in the mechanism but also what people think are useful practices. Likewise this IS JES2 but JES3-related answers would also be interesting. (Facebook users will have seen me witter on about analysing Job Numbers to see which jobs the scheduler threw into the hopper at the same tiem - else I wouldn't be looking at Job Numbers in the first place.) Thanks, Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible DFSORT problem?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Possible DFSORT problem? snip Um, and you are running in 64-bit mode with COBOL how, exactly? I had no idea that was a supported COBOL option yet. In any case, I would recommend switching back to 31-bit addressing mode before invoking SORT. I have a strong suspicion that LE would react badly due to its assumption that any call from a COBOL program can only be 31-bit. Peter -- Sorry - DFSORT apparently did the AMODE switch to 64, not our code. Or something did, but not COBOL. No HLASM subroutines in this mix to do a SAM64 or BSM or BASSM either. But the system was in 64 bit AMODE. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible DFSORT problem?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Possible DFSORT problem? snip John, It occurs to me to ask: what version of COBOL are you using? There have been a lot of problems if you run 4.2 without all the requisite maintenance levels on z/OS and LE. Enterprise COBOL 3.4 -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IEC020I 001-1
To read a program object, you have to use the binder API, or IEBCOPY the program object to a load library (which will convert the p.o. back to a load module) and then you can read the load module. I think that some p.o. will not convert to load modules, so you would have to code a binder API program for those. For me, the binder API was a bit hard to decipher, but there is a sample in one of the manuals (see MVS Program Management: Advanced Facilities). I used that sample to figure out how to convert one of my programs from reading load modules to reading program objects. The binder API can read both program objects and most load modules (really old load modules cause the API to return unusual codes) so a bind API program can be used for both types of executables. The example is called BAGETE. I ran BAGETE under TSO TEST to get a sense of what it would do at the various API functions and I can truly say I DO NOT really understand it completely, especially the buffer usage, but I was able to make it work for most program objects and load modules created after certain APARs were applied to the LKED. regards, Joe D'Alessandro -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STATOPT
I think that you're correct there (can't verify as STAMON isn't running) but according to some comments in a sample VTAMLST member it quite possibly has something to do with the STATMON preprocessor. Nice to be documented somewhere though. Sebastian On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:08:00 -0500, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sebastian Welton Just setting up some VTAM definitions for TAF sessions and want to use the STATOPT statement but this does not seem to be documented anywhere. I presume that it should be coded on the last line as: * STATOPT='stuff' as removing the comment * and adding continuation characters causes problems but leaving it there seems okay. Does this actually get used anywhere or is it just a comment? I think (but not sure) that the Netview Status Monitor reads it (as a comment). -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible DFSORT problem?
John McKown said Sorry - DFSORT apparently did the AMODE switch to 64, not our code. That's perfectly possible - if the sort was using a large memory object. Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
W dniu 2010-09-08 17:43, Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR) pisze: I would look into the functions that JES3 offers that JES2 does not offer, and if you need any of these functions then go with JES3. But unless you have a VERY compelling reason, then JES2 is probably the better and easier to maintain option (IMHO). I've worked with both, and JES3 can be challenging for JCL and for operators... The real choice nowadays is whether to use a system with JES or some without it, like AIX or (bunch of) Windoze. I think that number of *new* JES3 customers is close to number of new IMS or VSE users. I also bet that number or JES2 new users is very close to number of new z/OS users. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Job Numbers rolling over
Some sites, with Multiple JES2 MAS, or systems in a local NJE ring, set the numbers with the first digit being the node or environment system. This allows a bit of a visual clue as to the origin of the Job or perhaps, output (if your printers are in a different location, you could identify production output easier, if you didn't recognize the name). Some sites do the $TNUM on a weekly basis or after IPL for some convenience (one site did this at IPL time to know if a system was IPL-ed without notice). I would think today (with Jobs coming from many different places, other than real card readers), there is no compelling reason to do this. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 Wednesday 8:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Job Numbers rolling over In some SMF from a customer I see Job Numbers rolling over - i.e. Starting at 1 again - around midnight. And this happens when the old Job Numbers never approached the limit. (I only have overnight 1/2 September so don't know if this is regular.) I'm wondering how this could be... Some kind of restart (cold really needed) or $T NUM are the two methods I know of. I'm not just interested in the mechanism but also what people think are useful practices. Likewise this IS JES2 but JES3-related answers would also be interesting. (Facebook users will have seen me witter on about analysing Job Numbers to see which jobs the scheduler threw into the hopper at the same tiem - else I wouldn't be looking at Job Numbers in the first place.) Thanks, Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:43:22 -0400, Burrell, C. Todd wrote: I've worked with both, and JES3 can be challenging for JCL and for operators... I have much more JES2 experience than JES3, but I'd dispute your conclusion. The two are quite different from an operational perspective and it can also be challenging for experienced JES3 operators to work in a JES2 environment. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
On 9/8/2010 6:04 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:04:29 -0400, George Henke wrote: I was just a lowly applications COBOL programmer at Bankers Trust when Bob Graham suddenly appeared there, fresh out of Brown with a degree in Computer Science, and morphed HASP into ASP. My understanding was that ASP and HASP were developed separately, and that ASP predated HASP. Did I get it wrong? You got it exactly right. Nobody morphed HASP into ASP or vice versa. DCS became ASP; ASP became JES3. Meanwhile, HASP became JES2. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CICS 4.1 ServerPac and XLMGNR8
I have a problem with job XLMGNR8 which is a part of ServerPac for CICS TS 4.1. It should create some report in XML format, the job is optional by the way. The job indefinitely fills output dataset by repeatedly putting an entry describing SMPWRK6 dataset. Has anyone found the problem? Is it a lack of service? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r., może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible DFSORT problem?
John McKown on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 09/08/2010 07:29:44 AM: We are having a problem with a COBOL internal sort. If we run the job with no PARM=, the job abends with U4082-2. If it runs with PARM='TRAP(OFF)', it abends with S0C4-38 in ICEF64A. So, do I have a LE problem or a DFSORT problem? That is, to which should I open a PMR? I'm thinking DFSORT. Since ICEF64A is a DFSORT module, a DFSORT PMR is probably appropriate. The PMR will, of course, be transferred if it turns out to be a problem in another component. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible DFSORT problem?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Possible DFSORT problem? John McKown on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 09/08/2010 07:29:44 AM: We are having a problem with a COBOL internal sort. If we run the job with no PARM=, the job abends with U4082-2. If it runs with PARM='TRAP(OFF)', it abends with S0C4-38 in ICEF64A. So, do I have a LE problem or a DFSORT problem? That is, to which should I open a PMR? I'm thinking DFSORT. Since ICEF64A is a DFSORT module, a DFSORT PMR is probably appropriate. The PMR will, of course, be transferred if it turns out to be a problem in another component. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team (IBM) - yae...@us.ibm.com Specialties: JOINKEYS, FINDREP, WHEN=GROUP, ICETOOL, Symbols, Migration = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort Thanks. I've done that now. And uploaded the TERSED files that were requested. Personally, I think something in our code is likely overwriting a SORT data area, causing a problem down the line. But I just can't find it, myself. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NO RESPONSE RECEIVED
When you issue an operator command from SDSF (/S proc or /D IPLINFO, for example) what determines whether SDSF displays NO RESPONSE RECEIVED in the upper right or displays the messages that result from the command's being issued? /S myproc, for example, results in WTO messages being issued within less than a tenth of second but SDSF says NO RESPONSE RECEIVED. From SDSF's point of view, what is a response? I've looked at QEDIT and CIB and I don't see a way to respond as opposed to just doing something. Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:53:37 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: When you issue an operator command from SDSF (/S proc or /D IPLINFO, for example) what determines whether SDSF displays NO RESPONSE RECEIVED in the upper right or displays the messages that result from the command's being issued? /S myproc, for example, results in WTO messages being issued within less than a tenth of second but SDSF says NO RESPONSE RECEIVED. From SDSF's point of view, what is a response? I've looked at QEDIT and CIB and I don't see a way to respond as opposed to just doing something. Thanks, Charles Mills Charles, try upping your response delay under Options/7. Set delay for responses... in SDSF. Although I am not sure if you will get a response on a start command. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED
It has to do with the way the WTO was issued by the command processor. Instead of issuing a simple WTO, the code that processes the command and generates the response should use MCSFLAG=RESP on the WTO. It could also have to do with a CART being used. If a CART is supplied with the command the WTO should also include CART= where matches the CART of the command. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Internet-enable your applications with z/Ware V2 Voice: 214-800-8900 X#5562 -- This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED When you issue an operator command from SDSF (/S proc or /D IPLINFO, for example) what determines whether SDSF displays NO RESPONSE RECEIVED in the upper right or displays the messages that result from the command's being issued? /S myproc, for example, results in WTO messages being issued within less than a tenth of second but SDSF says NO RESPONSE RECEIVED. From SDSF's point of view, what is a response? I've looked at QEDIT and CIB and I don't see a way to respond as opposed to just doing something. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED
What SDSF is doing here is using the MGCRE service with the CART parameter (the CART is the command response token) to send the operator command to an EMCS console. The expectation in most cases is that the code that eventually executes in whatever ASID because of the operator command looks at the CIB and sees that there is a CART present and then uses the CART=CIBXCART specification on the WTOs that writes messages containing the operator command response. This allows the EMCS that SDSF has established to wake up and get the message(s). Not all software products use CARTs on their WTOs and there may be architectural reasons why some base z/OS components do not use CARTs either. To cater for this, SDSF must establish a timer so it can give up waiting - hence the setting in the SDSF options. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: 08 September 2010 17:54 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED When you issue an operator command from SDSF (/S proc or /D IPLINFO, for example) what determines whether SDSF displays NO RESPONSE RECEIVED in the upper right or displays the messages that result from the command's being issued? /S myproc, for example, results in WTO messages being issued within less than a tenth of second but SDSF says NO RESPONSE RECEIVED. From SDSF's point of view, what is a response? I've looked at QEDIT and CIB and I don't see a way to respond as opposed to just doing something. Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED
Thanks, Patrick, but that does not seem to be it. I upped it from 1 to 2 seconds with no discernible effect. For my particular benchmark /S command, here are the timings 12:54:21.38 0290 S MYPROC 12:54:21.41 0090 IRR813I NO PROFILE WAS FOUND IN THE STARTED 507 0090 MYPROC WITH JOBNAME MYPROC. RACF 12:54:21.43 STC00383 0291 $HASP100 MYPROC ON STCINRDR 12:54:21.48 STC00383 0290 IEF695I START MYPROC WITH JOBNAME MYPROC , GROUP DFLTSTC 12:54:21.48 STC00383 0090 $HASP373 MYPROC STARTED 12:54:21.48 STC00383 0090 IEF403I MYPROC - STARTED - TIME=12.54.21 12:54:21.60 STC00383 0090 program issues WTO message So you can see there are a lot of responses within about a quarter of a second. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Lyon Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:53:37 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: When you issue an operator command from SDSF (/S proc or /D IPLINFO, for example) what determines whether SDSF displays NO RESPONSE RECEIVED in the upper right or displays the messages that result from the command's being issued? /S myproc, for example, results in WTO messages being issued within less than a tenth of second but SDSF says NO RESPONSE RECEIVED. From SDSF's point of view, what is a response? I've looked at QEDIT and CIB and I don't see a way to respond as opposed to just doing something. Thanks, Charles Mills Charles, try upping your response delay under Options/7. Set delay for responses... in SDSF. Although I am not sure if you will get a response on a start command. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z990s still running?
In a message dated 9/8/2010 12:14:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net writes: (HDS) storage products. I think the most recent was a question about support for OS/390 1.2 Any FACOM sites still active? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STATOPT
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sebastian Welton I think that you're correct there (can't verify as STAMON isn't running) but according to some comments in a sample VTAMLST member it quite possibly has something to do with the STATMON preprocessor. Nice to be documented somewhere though. Googled for STATOPT and found (among other, irrelevant hits): http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v3r1/index.jsp?topic=/ com.ibm.itnetviewforzos.doc/inal0mst60.htm or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/25z8evx Looks definitely like Netview. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
In a message dated 9/8/2010 11:37:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: Nobody morphed HASP into ASP or vice versa. DCS became ASP; ASP became JES3. Meanwhile, HASP became JES2. Huh? HASP was the efforts of NASA Houston and came out as Half ASP. Renamed to Houston ASP. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
EPILOG question
Hi list, We recently upgraded to Omegamon XE v420, everything looks fine, except I could not gen reports using EPILOG obtain command in batch, which works in the old version. The job gets rc 0, but no record printed. While I use EPILOG session command line can display information. Any one encounter similar thing? any idea will be appriciated. Thanks! here is my JCL: //EXPORT EXEC PGM=KEPOBTN,REGION=4096K,PARM='EPPROD=EP' //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.OZOS1.TKANMOD //RKANPAR DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYSU.OZOS1.AHD5.RKANPARU //RKM2OUTR DD SYSOUT=*REPORT LISTING //RKM2OUTO DD SYSOUT=*OBTAIN MESSAGE LOG //RKM2OUTM DD SYSOUT=*EPILOG MESSAGE LOG //OUTREP DD DSN=OUTREP,DISP=(NEW,PASS,DELETE),UNIT=3390, //DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=27998),SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)) //ABNLIGNR DD DUMMY //RKM2OUTD DD DSN=MYUID.EPILOG.REPORT,DISP=(MOD,CATLG), // SPACE=(CYL,(2,1)),UNIT=SYSDA, // DCB=(DSORG=PS,RECFM=V,LRECL=4096) //RKM2IN DD * //SYSPRINT DD * OBTAIN STC(CNMS) INT - ELEMENTS(SMFID,SDATE,STIME,STCNAME,CPUTRXTM) - FORMAT(PC) OUTFILE(RKM2OUTD) REPLACE /* -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
PPRC SECONDARY DEVICES IN SECOND SUBCHANNEL - MSS
Hi, Somebody useing secondary PPRC devices in the second subchannel ? IBM first announced PAV's in the second subchannel, now allmost all secondary devices can be defined as special devices , useing the second subchannel. Like IBM, we call it a MSS-configuration. I know that you best run Zos 1.11 and when GDPS is used, you need version 3.7 for this. Is it really so simple to configure ? What about the DSCLI syntax needed to configure the DS8000 hardware ? No specials there ? Greetings from Belgium -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EPILOG question
Have you called support to get help? It may be a known problem, or others may have already reported it. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 Wednesday 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: EPILOG question Hi list, We recently upgraded to Omegamon XE v420, everything looks fine, except I could not gen reports using EPILOG obtain command in batch, which works in the old version. The job gets rc 0, but no record printed. While I use EPILOG session command line can display information. Any one encounter similar thing? any idea will be appriciated. Thanks! here is my JCL: //EXPORT EXEC PGM=KEPOBTN,REGION=4096K,PARM='EPPROD=EP' //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.OZOS1.TKANMOD //RKANPAR DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYSU.OZOS1.AHD5.RKANPARU //RKM2OUTR DD SYSOUT=*REPORT LISTING //RKM2OUTO DD SYSOUT=*OBTAIN MESSAGE LOG //RKM2OUTM DD SYSOUT=*EPILOG MESSAGE LOG //OUTREP DD DSN=OUTREP,DISP=(NEW,PASS,DELETE),UNIT=3390, //DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=27998),SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)) //ABNLIGNR DD DUMMY //RKM2OUTD DD DSN=MYUID.EPILOG.REPORT,DISP=(MOD,CATLG), // SPACE=(CYL,(2,1)),UNIT=SYSDA, // DCB=(DSORG=PS,RECFM=V,LRECL=4096) //RKM2IN DD * //SYSPRINT DD * OBTAIN STC(CNMS) INT - ELEMENTS(SMFID,SDATE,STIME,STCNAME,CPUTRXTM) - FORMAT(PC) OUTFILE(RKM2OUTD) REPLACE /* -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
On 9/8/2010 11:30 AM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 9/8/2010 11:37:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: Nobody morphed HASP into ASP or vice versa. DCS became ASP; ASP became JES3. Meanwhile, HASP became JES2. Huh? HASP was the efforts of NASA Houston and came out as Half ASP. Renamed to Houston ASP. I think that's just a story. I recollect HASP came first, out of NASA as you say, and ASP was developed separately out in Thousand Oaks, CA. There was some rivalry and I think both teams borrowed some concepts and code from the other. But, it's all ancient history, right? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STATOPT
Hi Yes STATOPT is used in VTAM definitions for the STATMON. It used to provide a description for the device, nice to have difficult to maintain based on the size of the Network. Domenic -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sebastian Welton Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: STATOPT I think that you're correct there (can't verify as STAMON isn't running) but according to some comments in a sample VTAMLST member it quite possibly has something to do with the STATMON preprocessor. Nice to be documented somewhere though. Sebastian On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:08:00 -0500, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sebastian Welton Just setting up some VTAM definitions for TAF sessions and want to use the STATOPT statement but this does not seem to be documented anywhere. I presume that it should be coded on the last line as: * STATOPT='stuff' as removing the comment * and adding continuation characters causes problems but leaving it there seems okay. Does this actually get used anywhere or is it just a comment? I think (but not sure) that the Netview Status Monitor reads it (as a comment). -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Call for Sessions for SHARE in Anaheim, CA
Hello SHARE Participants - SHARE in Boston was a very successful conference, with plenty of new sessions on the new zEnterprise (and there was one in Technology Exchange to be viewed). There was quite a lot of buzz about this and all of the great sessions. Now, it is time to start planning our next SHARE conference in Anaheim, CA. It will be held at the Anaheim Convention Center, Sunday through Friday, February 27th through March 4th, 2011, 2009. The Enterprise Wide Capacity and Performance (EWCP) Project is looking for sessions of general interest; sessions on User experiences, Performance and Capacity Planning. We'd also be interested in beginner and back to basics types of sessions suitable for the zNextGenners. The scheduling process is beginning now. You can submit abstracts at the link below, or directly to me. The Call for Sessions closes on October 8th, so please consider submitting any abstracts as soon as possible. For more information, please visit the SHARE website at http://share.confex.com/share/116/cfp.cgi . Norman Hollander, Project Manager EWCP Enterprise-Wide Capacity and Performance Project Office: +1 760-992-5068 eMail:znor...@desertwiz.biz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED
Thanks. Perfect. That's what I was looking for. I was sure I remembered something like this. Not all software products use CARTs on their WTOs Nope, but mine will. g Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED What SDSF is doing here is using the MGCRE service with the CART parameter (the CART is the command response token) to send the operator command to an EMCS console. The expectation in most cases is that the code that eventually executes in whatever ASID because of the operator command looks at the CIB and sees that there is a CART present and then uses the CART=CIBXCART specification on the WTOs that writes messages containing the operator command response. This allows the EMCS that SDSF has established to wake up and get the message(s). Not all software products use CARTs on their WTOs and there may be architectural reasons why some base z/OS components do not use CARTs either. To cater for this, SDSF must establish a timer so it can give up waiting - hence the setting in the SDSF options. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: 08 September 2010 17:54 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED When you issue an operator command from SDSF (/S proc or /D IPLINFO, for example) what determines whether SDSF displays NO RESPONSE RECEIVED in the upper right or displays the messages that result from the command's being issued? /S myproc, for example, results in WTO messages being issued within less than a tenth of second but SDSF says NO RESPONSE RECEIVED. From SDSF's point of view, what is a response? I've looked at QEDIT and CIB and I don't see a way to respond as opposed to just doing something. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
S737 Abends, Deleted GDG Data Sets and TWS
We experience this S737 abend maybe once every couple of years where a JCL-allocated GDG actively being updated by one batch job can be deleted by a TSO user or another batch job. We found it very hard to believe this could even be possible but we did recreate the problem and found that our job scheduling product TWS was responsible for disabling this very basic MVS data set protection. To recreate, we used a simple two step job. Step1 allocates the GDG(+1) DISP=(NEW,CATLG) and Step2 updates GDG(+1) DISP=OLD. If step2 abends (or the job is cancelled in step2), then we are ready to use TWS to restart the job in step2. After TWS submits the restart, we are then able to issue a TSO DELETE command, or use ISPF 3.4, or submit another batch job to delete it. Eventually the restarted job abends S737. We found that when we display the enqueues for the GDG being created using 'D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,gdgbase)' that two enqueues are returned, one for the GDG base and one for the actual data set name for the GDG. For the restarted job, the enqueue for the GDG base is not present, which presumably allows the data set to be deleted even while allocated to another job. Anyways, we just want TWS job scheduling customers to be aware of this exposure. If anyone has seen any unexplainable S737 abends in the past, it just may be that their job scheduling product may be involved. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S737 Abends, Deleted GDG Data Sets and TWS
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tabor, Rich Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: S737 Abends, Deleted GDG Data Sets and TWS We experience this S737 abend maybe once every couple of years where a JCL-allocated GDG actively being updated by one batch job can be deleted by a TSO user or another batch job. We found it very hard to believe this could even be possible but we did recreate the problem and found that our job scheduling product TWS was responsible for disabling this very basic MVS data set protection. To recreate, we used a simple two step job. Step1 allocates the GDG(+1) DISP=(NEW,CATLG) and Step2 updates GDG(+1) DISP=OLD. If step2 abends (or the job is cancelled in step2), then we are ready to use TWS to restart the job in step2. After TWS submits the restart, we are then able to issue a TSO DELETE command, or use ISPF 3.4, or submit another batch job to delete it. Eventually the restarted job abends S737. We found that when we display the enqueues for the GDG being created using 'D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,gdgbase)' that two enqueues are returned, one for the GDG base and one for the actual data set name for the GDG. For the restarted job, the enqueue for the GDG base is not present, which presumably allows the data set to be deleted even while allocated to another job. Anyways, we just want TWS job scheduling customers to be aware of this exposure. If anyone has seen any unexplainable S737 abends in the past, it just may be that their job scheduling product may be involved. Is that really TWS's fault? I don't know TWS's internals. But I would guess that the restart is like CA-11s. That is, when you restart a failed job, CA-11 (and TWS?) replaces the relative GDG number with an absolute GDG number. When this is done, then the GDG base is not enqueued by the initiator. Try it yourself. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 14:11 -0400, Steve Comstock wrote: Nobody morphed HASP into ASP or vice versa. Huh? HASP was the efforts of NASA Houston and came out as Half ASP. Renamed to Houston ASP. I think that's just a story. I recollect HASP came first, out of NASA as you say, and ASP was developed separately out in Thousand Oaks, CA. Notes I took at a SHARE presentation 18 years ago (!) say that the same people who built ASP built HASP. NASA was less than enthusiastic over the prospect of having to spend money on a second box just for spooling, so the SPOOL program was born, renamed to HASP. I'd never heard the Half ASP part of the story, but it fits considering that SPOOL required half the processors of ASP. See: http://www.redbug.org/dba/sharerpt/share79/o441.html See also Bill Fairchild's recollection where he mentions Simpson and Crabtree: http://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@bama.ua.edu/msg09350.html -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM so rt maybe i n for some competiti on?
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:42:20 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: ObQoheleth ... OK. I did the Google search. All the hits attribute to you. So I'm entitled to ask. L'shanah tovah, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Updating CHPID Mapping Tool
I have v05.20 (J) of the CHPID mapping tool installed, from around Feb 2008. I need to install the newest version now but I haven't found anywhere how to handle my situation. The old doc talks about getting an upgrade file but there is not one on Resourcelink, just the new version of the CMT (which I have downloaded). My question is, should I un-install the old CMT from Windows (XP) before launching the setupjre.exe installer or will it take care of uninstalling the old version? Thought I'd better ask the pros before trying anything... Thanks, Robert Johnston UAMS - Little Rock Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STATOPT
Some good information here from Chris Mason (many thanks) who asked me to post it here: John Chase is correct that STATOPT is a statement associated with an obscure NetView component called - as John said - Status Monitor.[1,2] As to why it is specified as a comment in terms of VTAM definitions requires some knowledge of the history of this obscure NetView component. Originally Status Monitor had another name - which I forget - as an IBM field developed program (FDP) developed in Hursley - a development lab but not having any mission for network management programs - in, IIRC, the operations department. Because at the time, the mid-80's, this FDP was very popular it got swept up into the amalgamation of the seperate but interdependent products, NCCF, NLDM and NPDA, which became NetView - because the word got back to network management development that the poor lambs of system programmers who were responsible for installing these products couldn't get their heads around the simple instructions in the manuals regarding how to set up the necessary NCCF definitions for the interfaces which provided support for NLDM and NPDA. But I digress to a certain extent. Because Status Monitor started out as an FDP and it works by having definitions associated with resources identified by named VTAM statements, it needed to insert its definitions into the VTAM definitions. The only way to do this without upsetting VTAM when VTAM is parsing what VTAM rightly regarded as VTAM definitions, the Status Monitor definitions needed to be insinuated into the VTAM definitions without VTAM being aware of their presence. Hence their specification as comment records. Status Monitor gains access to both the named VTAM resources and their associated additional definitions by running the appropriate VTAM definitions - based on its own version of the ATCCONxx member IMMSMC - through a preprocessor which needs to be run each time there is a sigificant change to the VTAM definitions. In my test/ediucation systems in the days I tried to care about the NetView Status Monitor component, I used to run the preprocessor in the same started task as NetView as a job step before NetView itself.[3] STATMON was (is) a command you can enter when logged onto NetView and you are presented with an NCCF panel. It shows you the VTAM resources in what Status Monitor imagines is an appropriate hierarchy. You may imagine you have a good view of your VTAM environemnt and, with simple cursor/Enter key operations, you have a fast tool for entering VARY ACT and VARY INACT commands. Also with Status Monitor you can request automatic reactivation of resourtces which have become inactive which, IMNSHO, is not at all a sensible approach to take, the main reason being that resources become active not just because they feel like taking a break but because something actually has broken. You may judge I was *not* a Status Monitor advocate! the STATOPT statement but this does not seem to be documented anywhere. The 10th Google hit with statopt ibm - and the prior 9 were not very encouraging - took me to a page in NetView documentation where the STATOPT statement was mentioned - and associated with Status Monitor. Searching for Status Monitor on that so-called infocenter page found many hits. I did some more digging and found the following page as the first hit with 'status monitor preprocessor': http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v3r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itnetviewforzos.doc/inal0mst60.htm I think you will find this page particularly useful. Chris Mason [1] I needed reminding since it's a long time since I had anything to do with this statement! [2] I say obscure although at one time it was very popular. My take on why it used to be popular and why it is obscure today is that the function always promised far more than it delivered so that initial enthusiasm was turned over time into disillusionment. I may be describing it as obscure but, because it was once popular, I expect very many VTAM installations have Status Monitor comments hanging around their VTAM definitions and the current batch of responsible system programmers just leave them alone although they have no idea what purpose they could possibly be serving! Also, as I expect you discovered when setting up your TAF definitions, NetView still includes Status Monitor sample statements in their sample definitions. If you never use Status Monitor, as seems very likely, throw all these Status Monitor statements cluttering up your VTAM definitions away! [3] This may have given me a problem with the program properties table (PPT) entry regarding multiple job steps in a systems task but I was well aware how to circumvent that quite unnecessary restriction. and... I have now spotted your post bemoaning the lack of documentation. Armed with the knowledge that STATOPT is something to do with Status Monitor and that Status Monitor is something to do with NetView, I followed this sequence:
Re: IBM so rt maybe i n for some competiti on?
In listserv%201009081519090576.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 09/08/2010 at 03:19 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: So I'm entitled to ask. Qoheleth is a transliteration of the original name for the book known in English as Ecclesiastes. The reference here is to For there is nothing new under the Sun. L'shanah tovah, The same to you and to the list at large. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
part of ibmmain thread from 2000 that ASP was some IBM group that did Direct Couple at the LA Science Center (i.e. ASP traces back to 7040/7090 direct couple system): http://www.garli.ccom/~lynn/2000.html#77 predates the archives here (jan2005): http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html but gatewayed to usenet as bit.listserv.ibm-main at google: http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/browse_thread/thread/bd6288f5d6b18d6d/c0410d4d3a5e7738?lnk=gstq=direct+couple#c0410d4d3a5e7738 http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/browse_thread/thread/b976844cb2604e43 http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/browse_thread/thread/b8d52fe7172a3573 http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/browse_thread/thread/078d193a73f2417d http://groups.google.com/group/bit.listserv.ibm-main/browse_thread/thread/78d193a73f2417d/711120e7ed90aa32?lnk=gstq=direct+couple#711120e7ed90aa32 -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
In 1792f2.291be9b9.39b92...@aol.com, on 09/08/2010 at 01:30 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Huh? HASP was the efforts of NASA Houston and came out as Half ASP. Do you have a citation for that? I never saw the term before I suggested HASP is Half ASP for a project button. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
On 9/7/2010 8:27 PM, Clark Morris wrote: On 7 Sep 2010 15:19:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: ---snip- Why is JES2 better than JES3? -unsnip-- Each one has its merits and drawbacks. Jes2, in general, has more limited capabilities but a much smaller virtual storage requirement. One shop I recently had contact with told me that their JES3 was running a fairly small working set: ONLY 200 MB. My that footprint has gone up since I ran JES3 on a 4 or 8 meg 4341 in single system image. We are currently running JES3 on a z10BC with in a 4GB LPAR. The JES3 working set is around 40MB. Of course we are a small shop. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NO RESPONSE RECEIVED
In response to Charles, Rob Scott said: What SDSF is doing here is using the MGCRE service with the CART parameter (the CART is the command response token) to send the operator command to an EMCS console. The expectation in most cases is that the code that eventually executes in whatever ASID because of the operator command looks at the CIB and sees that there is a CART present and then uses the CART=CIBXCART specification on the WTOs that writes messages containing the operator command response. This allows the EMCS that SDSF has established to wake up and get the message(s). Not all software products use CARTs on their WTOs and there may be architectural reasons why some base z/OS components do not use CARTs either. To cater for this, SDSF must establish a timer so it can give up waiting - hence the setting in the SDSF options. 'es a bright lad is our Rob! Spot on. However, whether or not you see the NO RESPONSE message depends entirely on whether SDSF sees a response before that timeout occurs. So if the system is busy and/or your command takes a while to process, you may get this even when you're doing everything right with respect to the CART. BTDTGTS. As an aside, if you have more than one line of data to return in the command response you'll have to use the multi-line WTO option. Miraculously, it does work and SDSF faithfully horks up the entire multi-line response which makes it a lot easier to see which message parts belong with which responses. -- This email might be from the artist formerly known as CC (or not) You be the judge. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
This has been an interesting thread, though it seems to pop up from time to time here, I always seem to learn some new piece of history or functionality. As a shop that runs both JES', not because we sell software that must operate equally well with either, but out of acqusistions and consolidations, and as a former JES2 bigot, I've been in some interesting... discussions over the years about which is better and why. Most of these degenerate very quickly into religious diatribes. One of my favorites was the opportunity to needle one of our most senior (experienced and knowledgeable) operators any time we had to cycle the initiators to address a throughput or fragmentation problem. What was that command again? Oh, yeah... COMMANDS. *F G main G group INIT 0 *F G main G group OFF *F G main C class OFF Then repeat in reverse with ON and an INIT count 0 (if I got the order right). Sheesh. You know in JES2, that'd be a '$PI(xx-xx) followed by a '$SI (xx-xx). How hard is that to remember? Tell me again why JES3 is so much better? I will say they got the cancel right with *F U,... Not that JES2 is any less cryptic these days, mind you, especially since the rewrites in, what was it, OS/390 2.4 (and subsequent removal of the command translation exit)? Now that I've been here a while, I find myself defending JES3. The balance between the two is almost 50-50 in terms of image count, but the vast majority of our workload runs on JES3 systems. I actually helped stave off a proposal to convert ten JES3 images to JES2. As others have pointed out, there simply was no way to justify the time, effort, and expense just to make some people's lives easier and save a negligible amount of $ (pun intended). Our biggest systems run batch applications that rely on deadline scheduling. I don't know CA7 enough to know if it functionally replaces ALL that deadline does, but we haven't. Ditto for DJC networks (dependent job control). I'll admit differences in print management can be tough getting used to. We had a few technical and procedural problems getting InfoPrint and JES3 to coexist. With VPS, it seemed to be less of an issue. We have little to no RJE remaining, so ownership issues mentioned before are not a big deal. I actually like JES3-managed tape. Works rather well, and without a CF structure (IEFAUTOS) or GRS Star (for ATS Star). The down side is when the Global is down, all locals wait for tape, or any allocation for that matter. Yes, allocation (DISP=NEW v DISP=MOD) takes a little getting used to, but CA11 (or other restart manager) can help. JECL is different, but some things have been moved into JCL to make universal job coding a little easier. Besides, JES3 JECL is commentary to JES2. The /*ROUTE equivalent is a pain (NJB cards and passwords), but ftp to the destination system's internal reader is a nice alternative. I like that JES3 job classes can be more descriptive, and you can have many, many more of them than the 36 in JES2. (Though, admittedly, we abuse it.) I think it did some of what WLM-managed job classes do long before WLM. I do still prefer JES2 in terms of it's peer relationship to other JES2 systems in the MAS. Perhaps gaining experience with DSI will change my mind, but this SPoF in our shop is a big deal to me. The Global also introduces IPL and Hotstart/Warmstart dependencies that don't exist in a JES2 MAS, but again, DSI may help me change my mind some day. Bottom line is, we have both, and unless we migrate workload, we will continue to have both, so we, and our vendors (this has been an issue from time to time) have to support it. I think our biggest problem is the relative lack of people who really know JES3. I have to agree with the posters who said, if you're starting from scratch, assess your needs, compare the two, and make your choice. JES2 is arguably cheaper, unless you have to buy a lot of add-ons, it's simpler, and it's more common. JES3 arguably does more out of the box, but it is a separate (notice I didn't say greater*) cost, is more complex, and may be harder to find people to support it (if only due to our own bias). If you're already one or the other (or both), you're going to have to make one helluva business case to justify a conversion. * During our investigation for our conversion proposal, we noted that JES3 is separately priced, however we had no way to quantify the difference in MVS base MSUs for SCRT (WLC) on a JES2 vs a JES3 system. We postulated that because JES2 does less, MVS might have to do more, which might drive up our cost for the base. This was not vetted, but had the project continued, it would have been interesting to find out. We also considered the cost of SDSF (JES2) v our JES3 spool manager (SDSF for JES3 was not yet announced). Regards, Art Gutowski Ford Motor Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
In a message dated 9/8/2010 3:52:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net writes: Do you have a citation for that? I never saw the term before I suggested HASP is Half ASP for a project button. I first heard it from Sperry contractor back in the 70's. Tried googling a while and NASA seems to have reused HASP inexorably. Maybe somebody else has better notes or recollection. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
In a message dated 9/8/2010 5:08:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, linda.lst...@comcast.net writes: A dogpile search for half asp +NASA turned this up - Thanks, should have known Mr. JES2 would have it handy. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
Hi Ed, A dogpile search for half asp +NASA turned this up - http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~schudel/JES2/history.html Linda - Original Message - From: Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 8, 2010 2:56:41 PM Subject: Re: JES2 vs. JES3 In a message dated 9/8/2010 3:52:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net writes: Do you have a citation for that? I never saw the term before I suggested HASP is Half ASP for a project button. I first heard it from Sperry contractor back in the 70's. Tried googling a while and NASA seems to have reused HASP inexorably. Maybe somebody else has better notes or recollection. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S737 Abends, Deleted GDG Data Sets and TWS
The short answer I think is yes - yes it is TWS's fault. Yes, as suggested, if I specify the absolute GDG data set name in the JCL, I see only the enqueue for the absolute GDG data set and no enqueue for the GDG base. And MVS/DFP does not allow the data set to be deleted by another tso user or batch job in this instance (as we all hope and expect). I don't know for sure if it has to do with enqueuing on both the GDG base and the actual gdg data set. I don't know why it is possible in some circumstances for a TSO user or some other job to delete a gdg allocated to a job restarted by TWS, but TWS is apf-authorized and is modifying JES control blocks so I can't see another culprit here. I'm just making sure that the problem is on record so that someone running into this in the future will find that it has happened before. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: S737 Abends, Deleted GDG Data Sets and TWS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tabor, Rich Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: S737 Abends, Deleted GDG Data Sets and TWS We experience this S737 abend maybe once every couple of years where a JCL-allocated GDG actively being updated by one batch job can be deleted by a TSO user or another batch job. We found it very hard to believe this could even be possible but we did recreate the problem and found that our job scheduling product TWS was responsible for disabling this very basic MVS data set protection. To recreate, we used a simple two step job. Step1 allocates the GDG(+1) DISP=(NEW,CATLG) and Step2 updates GDG(+1) DISP=OLD. If step2 abends (or the job is cancelled in step2), then we are ready to use TWS to restart the job in step2. After TWS submits the restart, we are then able to issue a TSO DELETE command, or use ISPF 3.4, or submit another batch job to delete it. Eventually the restarted job abends S737. We found that when we display the enqueues for the GDG being created using 'D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,gdgbase)' that two enqueues are returned, one for the GDG base and one for the actual data set name for the GDG. For the restarted job, the enqueue for the GDG base is not present, which presumably allows the data set to be deleted even while allocated to another job. Anyways, we just want TWS job scheduling customers to be aware of this exposure. If anyone has seen any unexplainable S737 abends in the past, it just may be that their job scheduling product may be involved. Is that really TWS's fault? I don't know TWS's internals. But I would guess that the restart is like CA-11s. That is, when you restart a failed job, CA-11 (and TWS?) replaces the relative GDG number with an absolute GDG number. When this is done, then the GDG base is not enqueued by the initiator. Try it yourself. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Where is APF documented?
I know what APF-authorization means for a dataset well enough to use it. I'm writing a manual and I would like a formal definition of APF-authorization. I search the book manager z/OS MVS shelf for APF and I get lots of hits but the ones I looked at are either very peripheral or else they are how to set up your APF list in PARMLIB or the SETPROG APF command. Where is a formal statement of what APF-authorization means? Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where is APF documented?
Charles, Take a look at chapter 21 of the Authorized Assembler Programming GUIDE. That may help. Cheers, Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 16:26 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Where is APF documented? I know what APF-authorization means for a dataset well enough to use it. I'm writing a manual and I would like a formal definition of APF-authorization. I search the book manager z/OS MVS shelf for APF and I get lots of hits but the ones I looked at are either very peripheral or else they are how to set up your APF list in PARMLIB or the SETPROG APF command. Where is a formal statement of what APF-authorization means? Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 vs. JES3
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 1792f2.291be9b9.39b92...@aol.com, on 09/08/2010 at 01:30 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Huh? HASP was the efforts of NASA Houston and came out as Half ASP. Do you have a citation for that? I never saw the term before I suggested HASP is Half ASP for a project button. I worked as an operator at the the L.A. Scientific Center in Westwood (data center on the U.C.L.A campus) when DCS was initially developed on a 7094 with a 7040 as the support processor (before that they tried a 1410). Art Walters was one of the leads. I recall the term Half ASP used a couple of times somewhat sarcastically. I also recall that HASP was already known as a product (Type III?) out of Houston. This was around 1965. Walter Rue -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where is APF documented?
Thanks. That's certainly better than anything else I found. But I would really like a formal or fairly formal *definition* of APF authorization. (And to re-iterate the point in my OP, yes, I know informally well enough what APF authorization does. I was hoping for a formal statement.) Here's a way to re-phrase the question. Suppose an auditor said show me a definition of APF authorization and a statement of what it means. Where would you point him? (No smart answers please.) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Starr, Alan Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 4:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where is APF documented? Charles, Take a look at chapter 21 of the Authorized Assembler Programming GUIDE. That may help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: S737 Abends, Deleted GDG Data Sets and TWS
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 15:53, Tabor, Rich richard.ta...@usairways.comwrote: The short answer I think is yes - yes it is TWS's fault. Yes, as suggested, if I specify the absolute GDG data set name in the JCL, I see only the enqueue for the absolute GDG data set and no enqueue for the GDG base. And MVS/DFP does not allow the data set to be deleted by another tso user or batch job in this instance (as we all hope and expect). I don't know for sure if it has to do with enqueuing on both the GDG base and the actual gdg data set. I don't know why it is possible in some circumstances for a TSO user or some other job to delete a gdg allocated to a job restarted by TWS, but TWS is apf-authorized and is modifying JES control blocks so I can't see another culprit here. I'm just making sure that the problem is on record so that someone running into this in the future will find that it has happened before. It is very likely a basic error in the TWS restart. I remember another vendor's restart product that had a similar problem. it would reset the SWA blocks for a GDS to reflect the absolute generation, as John described, but it did so after MVS had built its enqueue table, so the GDS did not get enqueued. The programmer had to add code to acquire the enqueue and update the enqueue table. When I wrote my restart code, I made sure to avoid that error. I adjust the base, but not the relative generations on generation datasets. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: EPILOG question
thanks Norman... Just figured out.. I did a silly move that put SYSPRINT DD after RKM2IN DD On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Norman Hollander on DesertWiz norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz wrote: Have you called support to get help? It may be a known problem, or others may have already reported it. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 Wednesday 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: EPILOG question Hi list, We recently upgraded to Omegamon XE v420, everything looks fine, except I could not gen reports using EPILOG obtain command in batch, which works in the old version. The job gets rc 0, but no record printed. While I use EPILOG session command line can display information. Any one encounter similar thing? any idea will be appriciated. Thanks! here is my JCL: //EXPORT EXEC PGM=KEPOBTN,REGION=4096K,PARM='EPPROD=EP' //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.OZOS1.TKANMOD //RKANPAR DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYSU.OZOS1.AHD5.RKANPARU //RKM2OUTR DD SYSOUT=*REPORT LISTING //RKM2OUTO DD SYSOUT=*OBTAIN MESSAGE LOG //RKM2OUTM DD SYSOUT=*EPILOG MESSAGE LOG //OUTREP DD DSN=OUTREP,DISP=(NEW,PASS,DELETE),UNIT=3390, //DCB=(RECFM=VB,LRECL=4096,BLKSIZE=27998),SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)) //ABNLIGNR DD DUMMY //RKM2OUTD DD DSN=MYUID.EPILOG.REPORT,DISP=(MOD,CATLG), // SPACE=(CYL,(2,1)),UNIT=SYSDA, // DCB=(DSORG=PS,RECFM=V,LRECL=4096) //RKM2IN DD * //SYSPRINT DD * OBTAIN STC(CNMS) INT - ELEMENTS(SMFID,SDATE,STIME,STCNAME,CPUTRXTM) - FORMAT(PC) OUTFILE(RKM2OUTD) REPLACE /* -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
