Announcement for hlasm.com

2011-04-06 Thread Abe F. Kornelis

All,

I have just finished three updates to the hlasm.com site:
- Various product descriptions changed / added on the products page at
  http://www.hlasm.com/english/products/htm. Dutch version at
  http://www.hlasm.com/hollands/products.htm. 
  If you have a product or service that you think is valuable in the

  assembler programming arena, please let me know.
- IBM have renamed their 
 Set-Program-Parameter and CPU-Measurement Facilities

 to Load-Program-Parameter and CPU-Measurement Facilities
 Some of the mnemonics have been renamed accordingly.
 New mnemonics added
- IBM have renamed some of the Load- and Store-on-Condition
 menmonics. The old ones were missing and have been added.
 The charts are at http://www.hlasm.com/english/opcd00.htm
 and the lists are at http://www.hlasm.com/english/opl_bbbm.htm

Kind regards to all,
Abe Kornelis.
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No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

In our shop many users are not able to connect the Mainframe. While doing
telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please try again later".
we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.

Any idea to resolve.

Regards,
Jags

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread SAURABH KHANDELWAL
Please check definition of  TSO major node in your VTAMLST.  Or if you 
can paste it here, we will be able to get some more detail on that.



Regards
Saurabh

On 4/6/2011 12:43 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote:

Hi,

In our shop many users are not able to connect the Mainframe. While doing
telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please try again later".
we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.

Any idea to resolve.

Regards,
Jags

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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Gonzalo Cengotita
The error with the IODF (ADR468E) looks like it was caused by the lack of
PROCESS(SYS1) parameter.
On the other hand, the parameter for copying VSAM properly  is SPHERE.


I copied your last try and it worked ok for me. Maybe the last  "//*" is not
at the column 1?. I would delete it and try again
I usually copy VSAM and nonVSAM at the same time with SPHERE with no
problem.





On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:47 AM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL <
saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com> wrote:

> No, I am not using any parameter for coping VSAM dataset. I was asking you
> to suggest me , if you have idea about any parameter, which can be useful
> for coping VSAM dataset.
>
>
> Regards
> Saurabh Khandelwal
>
>
>

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Re: mainframe fresher

2011-04-06 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Steve, 



You are right, many think that mainframes are already gone.  While at SHARE in 
Anaheim, I was on the elevator, with a young couple.  The man saw my SHARE 
badge, remarked that he had seen lots of them and asked what SHARE is.  I 
explained.  Turns out he is an IT professional on the distributed side.  He 
remembered seeing that IBM commercial a few years back, the one where all of 
the servers have been "stolen", but he thought that IBM had switched over to 
only making servers now. I told him a bit about the z196.  When I told him that 
I had not needed to "reboot" my z800 server in over a year and the the last 
unplanned outage was caused by a whole building power outage a couple of years 
ago, he was amazed.  Then he questioned security.  We have a service that does 
penetration testing on a regular basis.  When it was first brought in, all 
groups were given 3 weeks to harden their systems.  We did no prep - the only 
group not to. The mainframe was  the only system that wasn't penetrated.  I 
gave him my card, told him a bit about zNextGen, and said that he might 
consider a day pass for SHARE and check it out.  I don't know if he did or not. 



The fact is, in my shop, the distributed server folks deal with problems not 
heard of on the mainframe.  When was the last time somebody had to rebuild and 
reintall z/OS because the system crashed and corrupted the OS files?  



Linda 


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Sent: Monday, April 4, 2011 7:44:42 AM 
Subject: Re: mainframe fresher 

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> Hello, 
> 
> It's unbelievably difficult to find a mainframe job with my current 
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> 
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- but he can't find a job. And we on this list know he is 
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Promote z/OS, get current ourselves, tell the stories of cool 
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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>In our shop many users are not able to connect the Mainframe.
>While doing telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please try 
>again later".
>we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.

>Any idea to resolve.

No LUs means no LUs.
Tell your communications SYSPROGs.
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Re: Reason code 83000505 from Binder API call

2011-04-06 Thread Rob Scott
I would imagine that the owner of the module bound with EDIT=NO was doing for 
security/integrity reasons - they most likely do not want anyone to re-link the 
module and interfere with the order/sequencing or replace any of the CSECTs.

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Sent: 05 April 2011 23:26
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Reason code 83000505 from Binder API call

I'm using the Binder API to map load modules.  Getting an 83000505 from an 
include for a load module.  The reason code explanation says

 83000505 INCLUDE  Included module 
marked NOT-EDITABLE and   has been bypassed.



Can someone give me a reasonable explanation why a load module would be 
bound with EDIT=NO?  Is there a way to map a load module using Binder API if it 
is marked such?   Thanks in advance for taking a look at this, and any help 
provided.

--Dave Day 

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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread SAURABH KHANDELWAL
I am using below JCL and this also not able to backup VSAM dataset. I am 
getting same error.


JCL

//DUMPUP01  JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
//  NOTIFY=&SYSUID
//STEP2 EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4M ,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
//INVOL1DD  VOL=SER=DMTCAT,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
//OUTVOL1   DD  VOL=SER=RES001,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
//SYSIN DD  *
  COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -
   EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.** -
   SYS1.VVDS.** -
   SYSUCAT.** -
   OMVS.**-
   MVSSMP*.** -
   )) -
   LOGINDDNAME(INVOL1) -
   ALLDATA(*)  -
   ALLEXCP -
   CANCELERROR -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   FORCE -
   NULLMGMTCLAS  -
NULLSTORCLAS  -
OUTDDNAME(OUTVOL1)   -
PERCENTUTILIZED(100) -
PROCESS(SYS1) -
REPLACE -
SHARE -
SPHERE -
TGTALLOC(SOURCE) -
TOLERATE(ENQFAILURE) -
ADMINISTRATOR

O/P


0ADR455W (001)-DDDS (01), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE NOT SUCCESSFULLY 
PROCESSE

0  CENTER.HFS
0  DFHSM.BCDS
0  DFHSM.MCDS
0  DFHSM.OCDS
0  IPCS.DATASET.DIRECTRY
0  IPCS.PROBLEM.DIRECTRY
0  PAGE.TESTMVS.COMMON
0  PAGE.TESTMVS.LOCAL
0  PAGE.TESTMVS.PLPA
1PAGE 0009 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R09.0 DATA SET SERVICES 
2011.096 07:50

-  SYS1.ENULANG


Regards
Saurabh

On 4/6/2011 1:36 PM, Gonzalo Cengotita wrote:

The error with the IODF (ADR468E) looks like it was caused by the lack of
PROCESS(SYS1) parameter.
On the other hand, the parameter for copying VSAM properly  is SPHERE.


I copied your last try and it worked ok for me. Maybe the last  "//*" is not
at the column 1?. I would delete it and try again
I usually copy VSAM and nonVSAM at the same time with SPHERE with no
problem.





On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:47 AM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL<
saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com>  wrote:


No, I am not using any parameter for coping VSAM dataset. I was asking you
to suggest me , if you have idea about any parameter, which can be useful
for coping VSAM dataset.


Regards
Saurabh Khandelwal




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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

Can you check if the target volume has enough space ??

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL <
saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com> wrote:

> I am using below JCL and this also not able to backup VSAM dataset. I am
> getting same error.
>
> JCL
>
>
> //DUMPUP01  JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> //  NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> //STEP2 EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4M ,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
> //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
> //INVOL1DD  VOL=SER=DMTCAT,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
> //OUTVOL1   DD  VOL=SER=RES001,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
> //SYSIN DD  *
>  COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -
>   EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.** -
>
>   SYS1.VVDS.** -
>   SYSUCAT.** -
>   OMVS.**-
>   MVSSMP*.** -
>   )) -
>   LOGINDDNAME(INVOL1) -
>   ALLDATA(*)  -
>   ALLEXCP -
>   CANCELERROR -
>   BYPASSACS(**) -
>   FORCE -
>   NULLMGMTCLAS  -
>NULLSTORCLAS  -
>OUTDDNAME(OUTVOL1)   -
>PERCENTUTILIZED(100) -
>PROCESS(SYS1) -
>REPLACE -
>SHARE -
>SPHERE -
>TGTALLOC(SOURCE) -
>TOLERATE(ENQFAILURE) -
>ADMINISTRATOR
>
> O/P
>
>
> 0ADR455W (001)-DDDS (01), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE NOT SUCCESSFULLY
> PROCESSE
> 0  CENTER.HFS
> 0  DFHSM.BCDS
> 0  DFHSM.MCDS
> 0  DFHSM.OCDS
> 0  IPCS.DATASET.DIRECTRY
> 0  IPCS.PROBLEM.DIRECTRY
> 0  PAGE.TESTMVS.COMMON
> 0  PAGE.TESTMVS.LOCAL
> 0  PAGE.TESTMVS.PLPA
> 1PAGE 0009 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R09.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2011.096
> 07:50
> -  SYS1.ENULANG
>
>
> Regards
> Saurabh
>
>
> On 4/6/2011 1:36 PM, Gonzalo Cengotita wrote:
>
>> The error with the IODF (ADR468E) looks like it was caused by the lack of
>> PROCESS(SYS1) parameter.
>> On the other hand, the parameter for copying VSAM properly  is SPHERE.
>>
>>
>> I copied your last try and it worked ok for me. Maybe the last  "//*" is
>> not
>> at the column 1?. I would delete it and try again
>> I usually copy VSAM and nonVSAM at the same time with SPHERE with no
>> problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:47 AM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL<
>> saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com>  wrote:
>>
>> No, I am not using any parameter for coping VSAM dataset. I was asking you
>>> to suggest me , if you have idea about any parameter, which can be useful
>>> for coping VSAM dataset.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Saurabh Khandelwal
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread SAURABH KHANDELWAL
I have enough space available in target volume. Also if it is space 
issue, I should have got  abend code 37 .


Also, I tried coping other volume as well, where I had VASAM dataset and 
got same error.


Regards
Saurabh Khandelwal

On 4/6/2011 2:26 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote:

Hi,
Can you check if the target volume has enough space ??

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:55 PM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL 
mailto:saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com>> 
wrote:


I am using below JCL and this also not able to backup VSAM
dataset. I am getting same error.

JCL


//DUMPUP01  JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
//  NOTIFY=&SYSUID
//STEP2 EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4M ,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
//INVOL1DD  VOL=SER=DMTCAT,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
//OUTVOL1   DD  VOL=SER=RES001,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
//SYSIN DD  *
 COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -
  EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.** -

  SYS1.VVDS.** -
  SYSUCAT.** -
  OMVS.**-
  MVSSMP*.** -
  )) -
  LOGINDDNAME(INVOL1) -
  ALLDATA(*)  -
  ALLEXCP -
  CANCELERROR -
  BYPASSACS(**) -
  FORCE -
  NULLMGMTCLAS  -
   NULLSTORCLAS  -
   OUTDDNAME(OUTVOL1)   -
   PERCENTUTILIZED(100) -
   PROCESS(SYS1) -
   REPLACE -
   SHARE -
   SPHERE -
   TGTALLOC(SOURCE) -
   TOLERATE(ENQFAILURE) -
   ADMINISTRATOR

O/P


0ADR455W (001)-DDDS (01), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE NOT
SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSE
0  CENTER.HFS
0  DFHSM.BCDS
0  DFHSM.MCDS
0  DFHSM.OCDS
0  IPCS.DATASET.DIRECTRY
0  IPCS.PROBLEM.DIRECTRY
0  PAGE.TESTMVS.COMMON
0  PAGE.TESTMVS.LOCAL
0  PAGE.TESTMVS.PLPA
1PAGE 0009 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R09.0 DATA SET SERVICES
2011.096 07:50

-  SYS1.ENULANG


Regards
Saurabh


On 4/6/2011 1:36 PM, Gonzalo Cengotita wrote:

The error with the IODF (ADR468E) looks like it was caused by
the lack of
PROCESS(SYS1) parameter.
On the other hand, the parameter for copying VSAM properly  is
SPHERE.


I copied your last try and it worked ok for me. Maybe the last
 "//*" is not
at the column 1?. I would delete it and try again
I usually copy VSAM and nonVSAM at the same time with SPHERE
with no
problem.





On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:47 AM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL<
saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com
>  wrote:

No, I am not using any parameter for coping VSAM dataset.
I was asking you
to suggest me , if you have idea about any parameter,
which can be useful
for coping VSAM dataset.


Regards
Saurabh Khandelwal



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Re: coax (3174) throughput

2011-04-06 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-04-06 03:16, Scott Ford pisze:

Two things to consider is this a 3174 attached to a cha
Radoslaw:

Two things to consider is this a 3174 attached to a channel , i.e.; Bus/Tag or
attached to a FEP(37xx), the transfer will bottleneck to its slowest device,
i.e.; a modem being slower than a mainframe channel ...


Yes, however my curiosity is related only to coax port - coax port 
"channel". In this scope any other bottleneck does not apply. Of course 
in real word the weakest link of chain is the most important.
BTW: 3174 can be channel-attached, and I guess that ESCON is not a 
bottleneck for coax, even 32 of them.


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REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Some REXX questions:

Any kind of REXX INCLUDE feature i.e include a REXX "copybook"  ?
We need some large "initialized" data areas,  stems.
What is the  best or  fastest way to do this?

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Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Rob Scott
Many moons ago when I was a sysprog, I wrote a couple of REXX external 
functions in assembler called "STEMPUSH" and "STEMPULL" that allow you to pass 
REXX stems between execs in the same address space. It does this by placing the 
REXX variable name and value into a dataspace "stack" and then you pass the 
dataspace "token" as a parameter between the execs (STEMPUSH places items on 
the stack and STEMPULL retrieves them). 

As far as I know the code still works and you can find it on the CBT tape 
website (www.cbttape.org).  

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Miklos Szigetvari
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Subject: REXX INCLUDE ?

 Hi

Some REXX questions:

Any kind of REXX INCLUDE feature i.e include a REXX "copybook"  ?
We need some large "initialized" data areas,  stems.
What is the  best or  fastest way to do this?

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Re: Floating point assembler code

2011-04-06 Thread Don Poitras
I gave up TSO TEST for ASMIDF years ago. Give it try.


In article  you wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 15:36:24 -0400, Tony Harminc  
> wrote:

> >
> >I too continue to use TSO TEST for certain things, and indeed it would
> >be a very good thing if they would add just a few little updates:
> >
> >Better floating point support, as you suggest
> >
> >Access register support
> >
> >64-bit GPR support
> >
> >64-bit indirection (the IPCS syntax would be consistent)
> >
> >TEST (and other TSO components) are extra frustrating because however
> >dead-ended TSO may be, there *are* updates going on, but they never
> >seem to take the opportunity to make minor enhancements while they
> >have a module open for other purposes. Yeah, I know - internal
> >politics, time & budget allocation, and so on. But most development
> >labs manage to sneak in a few enhancements under the RADAR from time
> >to time.
> >

> Yes, I've discussed some of those with the TSO guy. The basic problem with 
> all of them seems to be that they hit the TSO TEST register save and restore 
> processing and that is non-trivial to upgrade plus its hard to do piecemeal.

> I've done a fair amount of AMODE(64) testing on TEST and it seems to run 
> AMODE(64) stuff just fine; its just that you can't see the addresses when 
> they're in registers...  :-(

> Writing the code is the easy part; its getting the resources to thoroughly 
> test 
> what you've written that stops you dead in your tracks.

> W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development
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Re: Weird Reply Fragments (Was: Re: Mainframe Fresher)

2011-04-06 Thread Walter Marguccio
> I use YAHOO (.ca), and that has
>> My first guess would be yahoo.


> I use YAHOO (.ca), and that has never happened with my posts.

I use yahoo.com, and I also see strange fragments when I reply to every 
ibm-main 
post.

One other problem I have occurs when I want to write to the listserv to, say, 
temporarily
disable receiving posts. A simple e-mail with SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL in the body 
of 
the message
is rejected by listserv, because the latter reads some strange chinese 
characters instead of my
simple text. I'm not kidding. 

I wonder if Scott gets the same results trying to send a command to list serv.

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Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/CIT) [E]
The REXX compiler offers an %INCLUDE statement. 

You can initialize an entire stem variable quickly, for example:

stem. = 0   
stem.0 = 10

Will create a stem variable of 10 elements all with a value of zero.

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From: Miklos Szigetvari [mailto:miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:01 AM
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Subject: REXX INCLUDE ?

 Hi

Some REXX questions:

Any kind of REXX INCLUDE feature i.e include a REXX "copybook"  ?
We need some large "initialized" data areas,  stems.
What is the  best or  fastest way to do this?

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Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS( ) )

2011-04-06 Thread Bill Johnson
15.43.10 JOB08993  -STEPNAME PROCSTEP  
Not reacting that way here.


15.43.10 JOB08993  -STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC   EXCP   CONN
15.43.10 JOB08993  -S1   04   310K  97228
15.43.10 JOB08993  -APLY ENDED.  NAME-APLY RSU1012
 
.  APPLY
. PTFS
. BYPASS   (
.   HOLDSYSTEM
.(
.  ACTION
.  DB2BIND
.  DELETE
.  DOC
.  EXIT
.  IPL
.  MULTSYS
.)
.  )
. EXCLUDE  (
.   UK59308
.   UK59650
.  )
. SOURCEID (
.   RSU1012
.  )
. RETRY(YES)
 
01/10/11  TIME 15:35:07  SMP/E 35.32






From: Gerri Booth 
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Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 4:22:14 PM
Subject: Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS(  ) )

Beginning with SMP/E V3.5 the severity of messages issued for
BYPASS(HOLDSYS) changed from “warning” to “informational”, so they result in
RC=00.  In order to get the old behavior (RC=04) you have to add the
COMPAT(WARNBYPASS) parm to the EXEC stmt for the SMP/E job.  

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Curtis Jackson
One thing I found a few years ago that it appears is not very well known is 
the "hilite" function in ISPF Editor.  You can have editor hilite JCL, REXX, 
Assembler, C, Cobol, HTML, and other things.

I find it helpful in spotting JCL errors and REXX syntax errors before I 
submit/execute the job.  Not to mention it does break up the monotony of the 
normal editor display.

But you do have to be on a TN3270 emulator that supports TSO extended 
attributes, and the LU defined to your session must also support extended 
attributes.  

Another function I like is the "hide" function in ISPF editor also.

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Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>stem. = 0   
>stem.0 = 10
>
>Will create a stem variable of 10 elements all with a value of zero.

No.

The first statement tells REXX to return the value "0" for any 
read reference to a stem variable named like "stem" *if* that 
variable has not been assigned a value explicitly.

The second statememt will create a single stem variable named 
"stem.0" and assign it a avlue of 10. No other stem variable is
created.

  /*REXX*/
  stem.  = 0
  stem.0 = 10
  stem.assigned = anything

  say stem.0
  say stem.assigned
  say stem.not.assigned

will write

10
anything
0

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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
>I am trying to copy my SYSRES volume( ex: IPE100)  into one new 
> volume (
> ex IPE101). All the dataset inside IPE100 is managed by indirect cataloging.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As per my knowledge, only non SMS managed dataset used to be on RES volume.
> Then I am not sure, why I am getting above error. Also the RES volume is non 
> SMS
> managed.
> 
> Can anybody help me to resolve this issue.
> 
> 
> Regards
> Saurabh

I have been following this thread.

I see you are at z/OS V1.9.   VSAM datasets If I remember are always SMS 
Managed and it is not until z/OS V1.12 that you can use indirect VSAM 
cataloging.  I am not sure you can copy the same name VSAM dataset.  You may 
need to copy to a new VSAM dataset name

So, has this process you are using worked in the past and suddenly stopped 
working?
When was the last successfully run?  
What version of z/OS was it under?
Is the name you are copying already cataloged?  If so, I am not sure you can 
use DFDSS to do this.  You may need a second step to copy your IODF (or other ) 
VSAM datasets separately.

I have had situations in the past where I had to copy everything but the VSAM 
files with DFDSS and then used another process to copy the VSAM files.

Do you still have the last successful run output?  Can you compare the listings 
(current and old one) and see what is different or the same?

Are you creating a new system volume?  You do not want to use DELETE, it may 
accidently delete your live datasets


Lizette

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Steve Comstock

On 4/6/2011 5:26 AM, Curtis Jackson wrote:

One thing I found a few years ago that it appears is not very well known is
the "hilite" function in ISPF Editor.  You can have editor hilite JCL, REXX,
Assembler, C, Cobol, HTML, and other things.

I find it helpful in spotting JCL errors and REXX syntax errors before I
submit/execute the job.  Not to mention it does break up the monotony of the
normal editor display.


While there are a lot of cool features of the ISPF editor, I do
not like hilite. I know lots of people love it, but I find it
hard to look at. I always turn it off.



But you do have to be on a TN3270 emulator that supports TSO extended
attributes, and the LU defined to your session must also support extended
attributes.

Another function I like is the "hide" function in ISPF editor also.


"Hide" is cool; as is "flip"; and "ak", "bk", and "ok"; so is "retp";
and I love "swapbar". Lots of others. Most not well known. Maybe I'll
add some of these to my list. Thanks.


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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Staller, Allan
VSAM datasets If I remember are always SMS Managed and.
NO. I have several z/OS datasets on my SYSRES volume sets that are not SMS 
managed.

...z/OS V1.12 that you can use indirect VSAM cataloging. 
I am not sure. I will have to go look this up.

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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
> I am using below JCL and this also not able to backup VSAM dataset. I am
getting
> same error.
> 
> JCL
> 
> //DUMPUP01  JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> //  NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> //STEP2 EXEC  PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=4M ,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'
> //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=*
> //INVOL1DD  VOL=SER=DMTCAT,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
> //OUTVOL1   DD  VOL=SER=RES001,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR
> //SYSIN DD  *
>COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(**)  -
> EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.** -
> SYS1.VVDS.** -
> SYSUCAT.** -
> OMVS.**-
> MVSSMP*.** -
> )) -
> LOGINDDNAME(INVOL1) -
> ALLDATA(*)  -
> ALLEXCP -
> CANCELERROR -
> BYPASSACS(**) -
> FORCE -
> NULLMGMTCLAS  -
>  NULLSTORCLAS  -
>  OUTDDNAME(OUTVOL1)   -
>  PERCENTUTILIZED(100) -
>  PROCESS(SYS1) -
>  REPLACE -
>  SHARE -
>  SPHERE -
>  TGTALLOC(SOURCE) -
>  TOLERATE(ENQFAILURE) -
>  ADMINISTRATOR
>

The ADR468E has the following entry in the message
If the REPLACE or REPLACEUNCONDITIONAL keyword was specified, either the
data set does not qualify for preallocation or a preallocated target does
not exist, and one of the following conditions applies:

If DELETE is specified and the entry name is a SYS1., page, or swap data
set, the RENAMEUNCONDITIONAL or PROCESS(SYS1) subparameter was not
specified.
If the entry name is a cluster name and DELETE was not specified: (1)
the RENAMEUNCONDITIONAL subparameter was not specified, or (2) the RECAT
subparameter was not specified.
If the entry name is an alternate index or a user catalog name: (1) the
DELETE subparameter was not specified, or (2) the RENAMEUNCONDITIONAL
subparameter was specified.


I would not use REPLACE because the VSAM dataset probably does not exist
before the COPY function.

Lizette

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Re: coax (3174) throughput

2011-04-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
> Yes, however my curiosity is related only to coax port - coax port
> "channel". In this scope any other bottleneck does not apply. Of
> course in real word the weakest link of chain is the most important.
> BTW: 3174 can be channel-attached, and I guess that ESCON is not a
> bottleneck for coax, even 32 of them.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#94 coax (3174) throughput

I never measured 3174 ... the 3274 had the opposite problem ... not only
did moving lot of electronics out of the head back to shared control
unit ... enormously increase coax cable chatter and slow down thruput
(i.e. both the amount of chatter on the coax as well as latency for all
the back and forth to support really "dumbed down" 3278) ... but the
slow electronics in the 3274 had significant hit on (bus&tag) channel
busy (transfer rate 640kbytes on the channel side ... but really slow
handsaking made raw transfer rate only small part of the channel busy
... analogous to all the really slow handshaking on the coax side
enormously slowing down effective response time and transfer rate).

I had done a project for the IMS group when STL was bursting at the
seams and 300 were being put at remote site ... with datacenter support
back to STL. They had tested "remote" 3278 support back to STL and found
it truely horrible and totally unacceptable ... local channel attach
3278 were bad enough having hard time making subsecond response
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001m.html#19 3270 protocol

but for "remote" 3278, it wasn't even "remotely" possile :-)

The side effect of doing support for channel-extender ... allowing
"channel" attached 3274s controllers to put at the remote location (and
providing 3278 response at remote location, that was indistinquishable
from local channel attach), the channel-extender boxes had significantly
faster channel interface processing ... getting the 3274s off the real
channels improved local processor thruput by 10-15%. 

When 3278s originally came out ... we complained loudly to the product
group about 3278 interactive performance vis-a-vis 3277. Eventually the
product group came back with the reply that 3278s weren't designed for
interactive computing but for "data entry" (aka basically online
"upgrade" for card punch machines).

The controller channel busy overhead (independent of raw transfer rate)
was to raise its head again with 3090 and 3880 disk controllers (3mbyte
transfer rate). The 3880 channel busy overhead turned out to be so high,
3090 product realized that it had to add a whole bunch additional
channels ... which resulted in having to add an extra TCM to 3090
manufacturing (there were jokes that the 3090 group was going to bill
the 3880 product group for the cost of the increased 3090 manufacturing
cost). This was sort of the leading edge of theme that mainframes with
enormous number of channels being a good thing (when it was actually to
compensate for the channel/controller interface design and slow
controllers would drastically reduce channel effectiveness). a couple
recent posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011.html#37 CKD DASD
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011e.html#15 At least two decades back, some gurus 
predicted that mainframes would disappear in future and it still has not 
happened

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread McKown, John
You probably have more people coming in via TN3270 than it has available 3270 
virtual terminals defined. The parameters in the TN3270 server list, perhaps 
generically, VTAM LUs that it can use for TN3270 emulation. Once all of them 
are in use, no more TN3270 connections can be made until someone else 
disconnects from the TN3270 server and so frees up an LU. The TN3270 server has 
parameters. Examples from my z/OS 1.10 system:

TELNETPARMS
PORT 3023  ;
CODEPAGE  ISO8859-1  IBM-1047
FULLDATATRACE
INACTIVE 28800
PRTINACTIVE 600
TIMEMARK 600
SCANINTERVAL 120
SMFINIT TYPE119
SMFTERM TYPE119
LUSESSIONPEND
; Define logon mode tables to be the defaults shipped with the
; latest level of VTAM
  TELNETDEVICE 3278-2-E NSX32702
  TELNETDEVICE 3279-2-E NSX32702
  TELNETDEVICE 3278-3-E NSX32703
  TELNETDEVICE 3279-3-E NSX32703
  TELNETDEVICE 3278-4-E NSX32704
  TELNETDEVICE 3279-4-E NSX32704
  TELNETDEVICE 3278-5-E NSX32705
  TELNETDEVICE 3279-5-E NSX32705
;   WLMCLUSTERNAME TN3270E ENDWLMCLUSTERNAME
ENDTELNETPARMS
BEGINVTAM PORT 3023
; Define the LUs to be used for general users.
  DEFAULTLUS
DCCVDTAA..DCCVDTAZ..FFAA
  ENDDEFAULTLUS
  LINEMODEAPPL TSO ; Send all line-mode terminals directly to TSO.
  ALLOWAPPL TSO* DISCONNECTABLE ; Allow all users access to TSO
  ; applications.
  ; TSO is multiple applications all beginning with TSO,
  ; so use the * to get them all.  If a session is closed,
  ; disconnect the user rather than log off the user.
  ALLOWAPPL *  ; Allow all applications that have not been
   ; previously specified to be accessed.

;   Map Telnet sessions from this node to display USSTXBSC screen.
USSTCP USSTXBSC
;
ENDVTAM

The above requires a VTAM defination for LUs DCCVDTAA..DCCVDTAZ - 26 LUs. We do 
this with a major VTAM node similar to:

D08ACCES VBUILD TYPE=APPL APPLICATION MAJOR NODE
*
D08VDTA? APPL  ACBNAME=DCCVDTA?,  TCP/IP VIRTUAL TERMINAL DEFINITION   +
   MODETAB=MODETABP,   +
   VPACING=1,AUTH=(VPACE),EAS=10

This is a very stripped down example. But the 27th attempted concurrent 
connections would get your message because all the 3270 LUs are in use.

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> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of jagadishan perumal
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 2:14 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: No LUs available
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In our shop many users are not able to connect the Mainframe. 
> While doing
> telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please try 
> again later".
> we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.
> 
> Any idea to resolve.
> 
> Regards,
> Jags
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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Wickman
SYS1 datasets needs the additional parameter of PROCESS(SYS1) that I didn't see 
in your JCL example. 

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jagadishan perumal
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ADRDSSU issue

Hi,

1) Instead of copying your IODF cluster. You can even use your existing IODF
and Just IPL from the address of the new COD sysres volume, but point
LOADPARM at your normal IODF volume.

2) Or else you can define a new Cluster at the target volume and copy the
existing IODF cluster from the source using the load module CBDMGHCP. You
can google it to find the sample JCL for CBDMGHCP.


Regards,
Jags

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:48 PM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL <
saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>Along with PS and PDS i am also coping VSAM dataset available
> like IODF cluster file etc and getting below error.
>
> 0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODFD0.WORK.CLUSTER IN CATALOG
> CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
> 0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODF00.WORK.CLUSTER IN CATALOG
> LOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
> 0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODF01.WORK.CLUSTER IN CATALOG
> CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
>
>
>
> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZARNT3 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
> RES001
> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET SYS1.SBLSPNL0 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
> RES001
> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZAINST ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
> RES001
> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZATCP ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
> RES001
> DR801I (001)-DDDS (01), DATA SET FILTERING IS COMPLETE. 262 OF 262 DATA
> SETS WE
> FOR OTHER REASONS.
> DR455W (001)-DDDS (01), *THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE NOT SUCCESSFULLY
> PROCESSED*
> * SYS1.IODFD0.WORK.CLUSTER
>  SYS1.IODF00.WORK.CLUSTER
>  SYS1.IODF01.WORK.CLUSTER*
> DR454I (001)-DDDS (02), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED
>  ISF.SISFHELP
>  SYS1.SCUNLOCL
>  TCPIP.SEZAXAWL
>  CEE.SCEESAMP
>  SYS1.SISTASN1
>  SYS1.SBPXMENU
> AGE 0011 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R09.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2011.095
> 14:07
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/5/2011 8:33 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
> Incase if you are trying to move your HSM control Files(MCDS,OCDS,BCDS).
> Then probably you might get this error because HSM control files are Normal
> VSAM files. If this is your case then you have to stop HSM and Invoke DFDSS
> to move on the VSAM datasets.
>
>
> Regards,
> Jags
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM, chen lucky  
>  wrote:
>
>
>   In original post, there is no 'delete' parameter specified, but even so,
> there are still some DataSets had been copied successfully. Do not know
> why,
> may these copied ones are not cataloged.
>
> 2011/4/5 SAURABH KHANDELWAL  
> 
>
> Thanks Richard,
>I tried using STORAGE CLASS parameter(
> NOSMS). but still got same error. Now I am searching for the parameter
>
> you
>
> suggested.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On 4/5/2011 7:38 PM, Richard Marchant wrote:
>
>
> Saurabh,
>
> There is a parameter in ADRDSSU where you can bypass the ACS routines,
> something like BYPASSACS. Check out the manual.
>
> HTH
>
> Richard
>
> 
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> Subject: Re: ADRDSSU issue
>
> My __guess__ is that your STORCLAS ACS routine is assigning a storage
> class to the new allocations. In my shop, I __must__ specify the
>
> parameter:
>
>  STORAGECLASS(NONSMS) which is tested in the ACS routines to make a
>
> dataset
>
>  non SMS managed. Again, AT MY SHOP, this is a requirement. Why? Because
> that's how I wrote the ACS routine. The ACS routines are in house
>
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Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 07:00:45 -0400, Sambataro, Anthony (NIH/CIT) [E] wrote:

>The REXX compiler offers an %INCLUDE statement.
>
>You can initialize an entire stem variable quickly, for example:
>
>stem. = 0
>stem.0 = 10
>
>Will create a stem variable of 10 elements all with a value of zero.
>
No, it will create a stem variable of an unlimited number of elements
one of which has a nonzero value.

I suspect the OP wanted a less homogeneous initialization.

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Re: *CNZ4201E OPERLOG HAS FAILED

2011-04-06 Thread Nick Jones
Hi Jags,

I see:

>SYSPLEX.OPERLOG*DASDONLY*
>  SYSNAME: ZOSB
>DUPLEXING: STAGING DATA SET
> DUPLEXING: STAGING DATA SET
>   GROUP: PRODUCTION

When you configure Operlog as a dasdonly log stream, you can only access it 
from 
one system in your sysplex at a time.  Is operlog connected on system ZOSB and 
you are trying to use it on another system in your plex, perhaps ZOSA?

-Nick Jones
Logger L3

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Big Iron
I always liked the COMPARE command of the ISPF editor. You can use
it in combination with the SDSF edit JCL feature to compare JCL for the
submitted job with another related copy. Also handy for comparing
different versions of source.

Bill

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 06:30:25 -0600, Steve Comstock 
wrote:

>On 4/6/2011 5:26 AM, Curtis Jackson wrote:
>> One thing I found a few years ago that it appears is not very well known is
>> the "hilite" function in ISPF Editor.  You can have editor hilite JCL, REXX,
>> Assembler, C, Cobol, HTML, and other things.
>>
>> I find it helpful in spotting JCL errors and REXX syntax errors before I
>> submit/execute the job.  Not to mention it does break up the monotony of the
>> normal editor display.
>
>While there are a lot of cool features of the ISPF editor, I do
>not like hilite. I know lots of people love it, but I find it
>hard to look at. I always turn it off.
>
>>
>> But you do have to be on a TN3270 emulator that supports TSO extended
>> attributes, and the LU defined to your session must also support extended
>> attributes.
>>
>> Another function I like is the "hide" function in ISPF editor also.
>
>"Hide" is cool; as is "flip"; and "ak", "bk", and "ok"; so is "retp";
>and I love "swapbar". Lots of others. Most not well known. Maybe I'll
>add some of these to my list. Thanks.
>
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Re: REXX INCLUDE ?

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:14:27 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote:

>>stem. = 0
>>stem.0 = 10
>>
>>Will create a stem variable of 10 elements all with a value of zero.
>
>No.
>
>The first statement tells REXX to return the value "0" for any
>read reference to a stem variable named like "stem" *if* that
>variable has not been assigned a value explicitly.
>
I would clarify with: "*if* that variable has neither been assigned
a value explicitly nor explicitly dropped in the interim."  Order
of operations matters.

The TSO/E Rexx Reference states it most concisely:

... when a stem is used as the target of an assignment,
all possible compound variables whose names begin with
that stem receive the new value, ...

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Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS( ) )

2011-04-06 Thread Gerri Booth
The RC=0 from BYPASS(HOLDSYSTEM) under SMP/E 3.5 is for both APPLY CHECK and
APPLY. Try an APPLY CHECK job with the COMPAT(WARNBYPASS) parm on the EXEC
and you'll get RC=4 for the job.  

The primary reason you'd get RC=4 on the APPLY after getting RC=0 on the
APPLY CHECK is because of RETURN CODE = 4 from the binder.  Look at the
GIM42001 and GIM35966 msgs in the output.  Those are the messages that
result from the BYPASS(HOLDSYS).  If they end with an I rather than a W then
that means they are returning RC=0.  Only messages ending in W result in
RC=4.  In my APPLY jobs those are always GIM23913W (LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR
SYSMOD UA55316 WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR MODULE ISTAPCTQ IN LMOD ISTAPVL1 IN THE
SISTCLIB LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS 04). 


On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 04:21:22 -0700, Bill Johnson  wrote:

>15.43.10 JOB08993  -STEPNAME PROCSTEP  
>Not reacting that way here.


15.43.10 JOB08993  -STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC   EXCP   CONN
15.43.10 JOB08993  -S1   04   310K  97228
15.43.10 JOB08993  -APLY ENDED.  NAME-APLY RSU1012
 
.  APPLY
. PTFS
. BYPASS   (
.   HOLDSYSTEM
.(
.  ACTION
.  DB2BIND
.  DELETE
.  DOC
.  EXIT
.  IPL
.  MULTSYS
.)
.  )
. EXCLUDE  (
.   UK59308
.   UK59650
.  )
. SOURCEID (
.   RSU1012
.  )
. RETRY(YES)
 
01/10/11  TIME 15:35:07  SMP/E 35.32






From: Gerri Booth 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 4:22:14 PM
Subject: Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS(  ) )

Beginning with SMP/E V3.5 the severity of messages issued for
BYPASS(HOLDSYS) changed from “warning” to “informational”, so they
result in
RC=00.  In order to get the old behavior (RC=04) you have to add the
COMPAT(WARNBYPASS) parm to the EXEC stmt for the SMP/E job.  

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Re: Weird Reply Fragments (Was: Re: Mainframe Fresher)

2011-04-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
I know Yahoo may have had some other issue
Hey stranger, hows life ?

I know Yahoo may have had some other issues...
 
Scott J Ford


This is what I see on IBM-MAIN's web page.

Sorry, Scott, but you are the only person with this fragments.

Please tell the list which of the 6 lines (blank lines included) did you 
actually 
typed in? Which line is the FIRST line when you send that post?

What happens when you used IBM-MAIN's own pages or other e-mail client?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS( ) )

2011-04-06 Thread Bill Johnson
Thanks for clearing that up. I received RC=4 under earlier releases of SMP/E 
and 
still receive RC=4 but because of the reason you point out. Yes, the old bypass 
warnings are now informational. Never really paid that much attention to RC=4 
under most circumstances.






From: Gerri Booth 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 9:46:13 AM
Subject: Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS(  ) )

The RC=0 from BYPASS(HOLDSYSTEM) under SMP/E 3.5 is for both APPLY CHECK and
APPLY. Try an APPLY CHECK job with the COMPAT(WARNBYPASS) parm on the EXEC
and you'll get RC=4 for the job.  

The primary reason you'd get RC=4 on the APPLY after getting RC=0 on the
APPLY CHECK is because of RETURN CODE = 4 from the binder.  Look at the
GIM42001 and GIM35966 msgs in the output.  Those are the messages that
result from the BYPASS(HOLDSYS).  If they end with an I rather than a W then
that means they are returning RC=0.  Only messages ending in W result in
RC=4.  In my APPLY jobs those are always GIM23913W (LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR
SYSMOD UA55316 WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR MODULE ISTAPCTQ IN LMOD ISTAPVL1 IN THE
SISTCLIB LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE WAS 04).


On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 04:21:22 -0700, Bill Johnson  wrote:

>15.43.10 JOB08993  -STEPNAME PROCSTEP  
>Not reacting that way here.


15.43.10 JOB08993  -STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC   EXCP   CONN
15.43.10 JOB08993  -S1   04   310K  97228
15.43.10 JOB08993  -APLY ENDED.  NAME-APLY RSU1012

.  APPLY
. PTFS
. BYPASS   (
.   HOLDSYSTEM
.(
.  ACTION
.  DB2BIND
.  DELETE
.  DOC
.  EXIT
.  IPL
.  MULTSYS
.)
.  )
. EXCLUDE  (
.   UK59308
.   UK59650
.  )
. SOURCEID (
.   RSU1012
.  )
. RETRY(YES)

01/10/11  TIME 15:35:07  SMP/E 35.32






From: Gerri Booth 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 4:22:14 PM
Subject: Re: SMP/E BYPASS( HOLDSYS(  ) )

Beginning with SMP/E V3.5 the severity of messages issued for
BYPASS(HOLDSYS) changed from “warning” to “informational”, so they
result in
RC=00.  In order to get the old behavior (RC=04) you have to add the
COMPAT(WARNBYPASS) parm to the EXEC stmt for the SMP/E job.  

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RESMIL in a MONOPLEX

2011-04-06 Thread Jim McAlpine
Does the RESMIL parameter have any effect in a MONOPLEX system.  We use an
RDP (Remote Development Program) system supplied by IBM at Dallas and a "D
GRS" shows -

RESPONSE=S0W1
 ISG343I 15.14.47 GRS STATUS 422
 SYSTEMSTATE   SYSTEMSTATE
 S0W1  ACTIVE
 GRS RING MODE INFORMATION
   RESMIL: 10
   TOLINT:180
   SYNCHRES:  YES
   ENQMAXU: 16384
   ENQMAXA:25
Should RESMIL be set to "0" or "OFF" or doesn't it matter.  The reason for
asking the question is that we are seeing very high enque/deque times when
running DFDSS dataset backups.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread SAURABH KHANDELWAL

Hello,
 I am using below JCL now and getting below error. But now 
I am not getting error for VSAM dataset.

O/P

*0ADR410E (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET SYS1.NFS.LOG1 IN CATALOG 
CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT  ON VOLUME DMTCAT FAILED SERIALIZATION FOR DELETE.
0ADR410E (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET SYS1.NFS.LOG2 IN CATALOG 
CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT ON VOLUME DMTCAT FAILED SERIALIZATION FOR DELETE.

*
*0ADR410E  error description is : *Copy with DELETE specified requires 
exclusive access to the data set to be deleted. When you are to rename 
the data set being copied, either source or target data set being used 
will cause copy to fail and the system to issue this message. The data 
set identified in the message represents either the source or target 
data set that is in use.


JCL :

//DUMPUP01  JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
//  NOTIFY=&SYSUID
//STEP1EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=2M,PARM=''
//D1 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=DMTCAT,DISP=SHR
//D2 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=RES001,DISP=SHR
//DUMMY  DD DUMMY
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN  DD  *
COPY DS(INCLUDE( -
CEE.**   -
DFS.**   -
GIM.**-
ISF.**-
ISP.**   -
SYS1.**  -
PASSWORD.**  -
   TCPIP.**  )-
   EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.** -
   SYS1.VVDS.** -
   )) -
   INDD(D1 ) -
   OUTDD(D2) -
   BYPASSACS(**) -
   FORCE -
   NULLMGMTCLAS  -
   NULLSTORCLAS  -
   PROCESS(SYS1) -
   TOL(ENQF) ALLDATA(*) CAT SPHERE DELETE PURGE
   /*

Regards
Saurabh Khandelwal


On 4/6/2011 6:54 PM, Michael Wickman wrote:

SYS1 datasets needs the additional parameter of PROCESS(SYS1) that I didn't see 
in your JCL example.

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
jagadishan perumal
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ADRDSSU issue

Hi,

1) Instead of copying your IODF cluster. You can even use your existing IODF
and Just IPL from the address of the new COD sysres volume, but point
LOADPARM at your normal IODF volume.

2) Or else you can define a new Cluster at the target volume and copy the
existing IODF cluster from the source using the load module CBDMGHCP. You
can google it to find the sample JCL for CBDMGHCP.


Regards,
Jags

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:48 PM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL<
saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com>  wrote:


Hello,
Along with PS and PDS i am also coping VSAM dataset available
like IODF cluster file etc and getting below error.

0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODFD0.WORK.CLUSTER IN CATALOG
CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODF00.WORK.CLUSTER IN CATALOG
LOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODF01.WORK.CLUSTER IN CATALOG
CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE



DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZARNT3 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
RES001
DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET SYS1.SBLSPNL0 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
RES001
DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZAINST ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
RES001
DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZATCP ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
RES001
DR801I (001)-DDDS (01), DATA SET FILTERING IS COMPLETE. 262 OF 262 DATA
SETS WE
 FOR OTHER REASONS.
DR455W (001)-DDDS (01), *THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE NOT SUCCESSFULLY
PROCESSED*
 * SYS1.IODFD0.WORK.CLUSTER
  SYS1.IODF00.WORK.CLUSTER
  SYS1.IODF01.WORK.CLUSTER*
DR454I (001)-DDDS (02), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED
  ISF.SISFHELP
  SYS1.SCUNLOCL
  TCPIP.SEZAXAWL
  CEE.SCEESAMP
  SYS1.SISTASN1
  SYS1.SBPXMENU
AGE 0011 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R09.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2011.095
14:07





On 4/5/2011 8:33 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote:

  Hi,

Incase if you are trying to move your HSM control Files(MCDS,OCDS,BCDS).
Then probably you might get this error because HSM control files are Normal
VSAM files. If this is your case then you have to stop HSM and Invoke DFDSS
to move on the VSAM datasets.


Regards,
Jags





On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM, chen lucky  
  wrote:


   In original post, there is no 'delete' parameter specified, but even so,
there are still some DataSets had been copied successfully. Do not know
why,
may these copied ones are not cataloged.

2011/4/5 SAURABH KHANDELWAL  


Thanks Richard,
I tried using STORAGE CLASS parameter(
NOSMS). but still got same error. Now I am searching for the parameter

you

suggested.

Regards


On 4/5/2011 7:38 PM, Richard Marchant wrote:



Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
>*0ADR410E (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET SYS1.NFS.LOG1 IN CATALOG 
>CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT  ON VOLUME DMTCAT FAILED SERIALIZATION FOR DELETE.
>0ADR410E (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET SYS1.NFS.LOG2 IN CATALOG 
>CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT ON VOLUME DMTCAT FAILED SERIALIZATION FOR DELETE.
>*
>*0ADR410E  error description is : *Copy with DELETE specified requires 
>exclusive access to the data set to be deleted. When you are to rename 
>the data set being copied, either source or target data set being used 
>will cause copy to fail and the system to issue this message. The data 
>set identified in the message represents either the source or target 
>data set that is in use.
>



You are trying to delete your live datasets on DMTCAT. Did you want to delete 
your datasets on DMTCAT?

If you code DELETE it will delete the Datasets you are copying.

Lizette

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Re: *CNZ4201E OPERLOG HAS FAILED

2011-04-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

Its a MonoPlex. The Logger storage group volume Loger01 was fully exhausted
and we deleted some orphaned Log datasets and this Error message has stopped
popping.
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Nick Jones  wrote:

> Hi Jags,
>
> I see:
>
> >SYSPLEX.OPERLOG*DASDONLY*
> >  SYSNAME: ZOSB
> >DUPLEXING: STAGING DATA SET
> > DUPLEXING: STAGING DATA SET
> >   GROUP: PRODUCTION
>
> When you configure Operlog as a dasdonly log stream, you can only access it
> from
> one system in your sysplex at a time.  Is operlog connected on system ZOSB
> and
> you are trying to use it on another system in your plex, perhaps ZOSA?
>
> -Nick Jones
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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Gonzalo Cengotita
This error means the dataset is opened by an application and  you can't
delete it, it has nothing to do with being VSAM or sequential




On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:24 PM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL <
saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> I am using below JCL now and getting below error. But now I am
> not getting error for VSAM dataset.
> O/P
>
> *0ADR410E (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET SYS1.NFS.LOG1 IN CATALOG
> CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT  ON VOLUME DMTCAT FAILED SERIALIZATION FOR DELETE.
> 0ADR410E (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET SYS1.NFS.LOG2 IN CATALOG
> CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT ON VOLUME DMTCAT FAILED SERIALIZATION FOR DELETE.
> *
> *0ADR410E  error description is : *Copy with DELETE specified requires
> exclusive access to the data set to be deleted. When you are to rename the
> data set being copied, either source or target data set being used will
> cause copy to fail and the system to issue this message. The data set
> identified in the message represents either the source or target data set
> that is in use.
>
> JCL :
>
>
> //DUMPUP01  JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),
> //  NOTIFY=&SYSUID
> //STEP1EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=2M,PARM=''
> //D1 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=DMTCAT,DISP=SHR
> //D2 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=RES001,DISP=SHR
> //DUMMY  DD DUMMY
> //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
> //SYSIN  DD  *
>COPY DS(INCLUDE( -
>CEE.**   -
>DFS.**   -
>GIM.**-
>ISF.**-
>ISP.**   -
>SYS1.**  -
>PASSWORD.**  -
>   TCPIP.**  )-
>   EXCLUDE(SYS1.VTOCIX.** -
>   SYS1.VVDS.** -
>   )) -
>   INDD(D1 ) -
>   OUTDD(D2) -
>   BYPASSACS(**) -
>   FORCE -
>   NULLMGMTCLAS  -
>   NULLSTORCLAS  -
>   PROCESS(SYS1) -
>   TOL(ENQF) ALLDATA(*) CAT SPHERE DELETE PURGE
>   /*
>
> Regards
> Saurabh Khandelwal
>
>
>
> On 4/6/2011 6:54 PM, Michael Wickman wrote:
>
>> SYS1 datasets needs the additional parameter of PROCESS(SYS1) that I
>> didn't see in your JCL example.
>>
>> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>> Mike Wickman
>> Technical Services
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>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
>> Behalf Of jagadishan perumal
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:30 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ADRDSSU issue
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1) Instead of copying your IODF cluster. You can even use your existing
>> IODF
>> and Just IPL from the address of the new COD sysres volume, but point
>> LOADPARM at your normal IODF volume.
>>
>> 2) Or else you can define a new Cluster at the target volume and copy the
>> existing IODF cluster from the source using the load module CBDMGHCP. You
>> can google it to find the sample JCL for CBDMGHCP.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jags
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:48 PM, SAURABH KHANDELWAL<
>> saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com>  wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>>Along with PS and PDS i am also coping VSAM dataset available
>>> like IODF cluster file etc and getting below error.
>>>
>>> 0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODFD0.WORK.CLUSTER IN
>>> CATALOG
>>> CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
>>> 0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODF00.WORK.CLUSTER IN
>>> CATALOG
>>> LOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
>>> 0ADR468E (001)-DDFLT(04), VSAM DATA SET SYS1.IODF01.WORK.CLUSTER IN
>>> CATALOG
>>> CATALOG.MASTER.MCAT IS NOT PROCESSABLE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZARNT3 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
>>> RES001
>>> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET SYS1.SBLSPNL0 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
>>> RES001
>>> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZAINST ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
>>> RES001
>>> DR396I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET TCPIP.SEZATCP ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):
>>> RES001
>>> DR801I (001)-DDDS (01), DATA SET FILTERING IS COMPLETE. 262 OF 262 DATA
>>> SETS WE
>>> FOR OTHER REASONS.
>>> DR455W (001)-DDDS (01), *THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE NOT SUCCESSFULLY
>>> PROCESSED*
>>> * SYS1.IODFD0.WORK.CLUSTER
>>>  SYS1.IODF00.WORK.CLUSTER
>>>  SYS1.IODF01.WORK.CLUSTER*
>>> DR454I (001)-DDDS (02), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY
>>> PROCESSED
>>>  ISF.SISFHELP
>>>  SYS1.SCUNLOCL
>>>  TCPIP.SEZAXAWL
>>>  CEE.SCEESAMP
>>>  SYS1.SISTASN1
>>>  SYS1.SBPXMENU
>>> AGE 0011 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R09.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2011.095
>>> 14:07
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/5/2011 8:33 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> Incase if you are trying to move your HSM control Files(MCDS,OCDS,BCDS).
>>> Then probably you might get this error because HSM control files are
>>> Normal
>>> VSAM files. If this is your case then you 

Re: RESMIL in a MONOPLEX

2011-04-06 Thread Scott Rowe
Monoplex is not the issue, the existence (or not) of a ring is.  Since you
are not in a GRS ring, you are not affected.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Jim McAlpine wrote:

> Does the RESMIL parameter have any effect in a MONOPLEX system.  We use an
> RDP (Remote Development Program) system supplied by IBM at Dallas and a "D
> GRS" shows -
>
> RESPONSE=S0W1
>  ISG343I 15.14.47 GRS STATUS 422
>  SYSTEMSTATE   SYSTEMSTATE
>  S0W1  ACTIVE
>  GRS RING MODE INFORMATION
>   RESMIL: 10
>   TOLINT:180
>   SYNCHRES:  YES
>   ENQMAXU: 16384
>   ENQMAXA:25
> Should RESMIL be set to "0" or "OFF" or doesn't it matter.  The reason for
> asking the question is that we are seeing very high enque/deque times when
> running DFDSS dataset backups.
>
> Jim McAlpine
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Re: coax (3174) throughput

2011-04-06 Thread Scott Ford
Are you concerned about thruput or response time ?  Wha
Radoslaw:

Are you concerned about thruput or response time ?  What is the application 
doing ?  How much data is being sent/received ? 


These would be some of the questions I would want answered if I were you..
 
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From: R.S. 
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Subject: Re: coax (3174) throughput

W dniu 2011-04-06 03:16, Scott Ford pisze:
> Two things to consider is this a 3174 attached to a cha
> Radoslaw:
> 
> Two things to consider is this a 3174 attached to a channel , i.e.; Bus/Tag or
> attached to a FEP(37xx), the transfer will bottleneck to its slowest device,
> i.e.; a modem being slower than a mainframe channel ...

Yes, however my curiosity is related only to coax port - coax port "channel". 
In 
this scope any other bottleneck does not apply. Of course in real word the 
weakest link of chain is the most important.
BTW: 3174 can be channel-attached, and I guess that ESCON is not a bottleneck 
for coax, even 32 of them.

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

There were almost 500 LUs defined and we have kept a limit of 200 tso users.
Even though we had a shortage of LUs. Any Idea.

Regards
Jags

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:20 PM, McKown, John
wrote:

> You probably have more people coming in via TN3270 than it has available
> 3270 virtual terminals defined. The parameters in the TN3270 server list,
> perhaps generically, VTAM LUs that it can use for TN3270 emulation. Once all
> of them are in use, no more TN3270 connections can be made until someone
> else disconnects from the TN3270 server and so frees up an LU. The TN3270
> server has parameters. Examples from my z/OS 1.10 system:
>
> TELNETPARMS
>PORT 3023  ;
>CODEPAGE  ISO8859-1  IBM-1047
>FULLDATATRACE
>INACTIVE 28800
>PRTINACTIVE 600
>TIMEMARK 600
>SCANINTERVAL 120
>SMFINIT TYPE119
>SMFTERM TYPE119
>LUSESSIONPEND
>; Define logon mode tables to be the defaults shipped with the
>; latest level of VTAM
>  TELNETDEVICE 3278-2-E NSX32702
>  TELNETDEVICE 3279-2-E NSX32702
>  TELNETDEVICE 3278-3-E NSX32703
>  TELNETDEVICE 3279-3-E NSX32703
>  TELNETDEVICE 3278-4-E NSX32704
>  TELNETDEVICE 3279-4-E NSX32704
>  TELNETDEVICE 3278-5-E NSX32705
>  TELNETDEVICE 3279-5-E NSX32705
> ;   WLMCLUSTERNAME TN3270E ENDWLMCLUSTERNAME
> ENDTELNETPARMS
> BEGINVTAM PORT 3023
>; Define the LUs to be used for general users.
>  DEFAULTLUS
>DCCVDTAA..DCCVDTAZ..FFAA
>  ENDDEFAULTLUS
>  LINEMODEAPPL TSO ; Send all line-mode terminals directly to TSO.
>  ALLOWAPPL TSO* DISCONNECTABLE ; Allow all users access to TSO
>  ; applications.
>  ; TSO is multiple applications all beginning with TSO,
>  ; so use the * to get them all.  If a session is closed,
>  ; disconnect the user rather than log off the user.
>  ALLOWAPPL *  ; Allow all applications that have not been
>   ; previously specified to be accessed.
>
> ;   Map Telnet sessions from this node to display USSTXBSC screen.
>USSTCP USSTXBSC
> ;
> ENDVTAM
>
> The above requires a VTAM defination for LUs DCCVDTAA..DCCVDTAZ - 26 LUs.
> We do this with a major VTAM node similar to:
>
> D08ACCES VBUILD TYPE=APPL APPLICATION MAJOR NODE
> *
> D08VDTA? APPL  ACBNAME=DCCVDTA?,  TCP/IP VIRTUAL TERMINAL DEFINITION   +
>   MODETAB=MODETABP,   +
>   VPACING=1,AUTH=(VPACE),EAS=10
>
> This is a very stripped down example. But the 27th attempted concurrent
> connections would get your message because all the 3270 LUs are in use.
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> > In our shop many users are not able to connect the Mainframe.
> > While doing
> > telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please try
> > again later".
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Re: Weird Reply Fragments (Was: Re: Mainframe Fresher)

2011-04-06 Thread Scott Ford
I have not tried the SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL , maybe I should migh
Walter:

I have not tried the SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL , maybe I should might be interesting 
to say the least.

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From: Walter Marguccio 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 6:41:36 AM
Subject: Re: Weird Reply Fragments (Was: Re: Mainframe Fresher)

> I use YAHOO (.ca), and that has
>> My first guess would be yahoo.


> I use YAHOO (.ca), and that has never happened with my posts.

I use yahoo.com, and I also see strange fragments when I reply to every 
ibm-main 

post.

One other problem I have occurs when I want to write to the listserv to, say, 
temporarily
disable receiving posts. A simple e-mail with SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL in the body 
of 

the message
is rejected by listserv, because the latter reads some strange chinese 
characters instead of my
simple text. I'm not kidding. 

I wonder if Scott gets the same results trying to send a command to list serv.

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Re: coax (3174) throughput

2011-04-06 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-04-06 16:57, Scott Ford pisze:

Are you concerned about thruput or response time ?  What is the application
doing ?  How much data is being sent/received ?


These would be some of the questions I would want answered if I were you..


It's pure curiosity. I don't want to create any new project based on 
coax connection. I just realised that I don't know what is the speed of 
coax connection - so I asked. It does NOT depend on application, it's 
not dependent on resonse time, there are not real data to be sent.


What is the speed of Token Ring? Simple answer is 4Mbps (16 or even 100 
in newer versions). Does it depend on amount of data sent, application, 
response time? No.
Similar question can be asked about ESCON, FICON, Ethernet, RS232 in my 
PC, etc. And coax connection.


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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Don Imbriale
One of the features of the edit compare that I find useful is that while
editing you can issue command COMPARE * to see what changes you made since
the last save.

- Don Imbriale

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Big Iron  wrote:

> I always liked the COMPARE command of the ISPF editor. You can use
> it in combination with the SDSF edit JCL feature to compare JCL for the
> submitted job with another related copy. Also handy for comparing
> different versions of source.
>
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Re: coax (3174) throughput

2011-04-06 Thread Scott Ford
I was a SNA guy for a long time and we used to use a 1mbit f
Radoslaw:

I was a SNA guy for a long time and we used to use a 1mbit figure of channel 
attached 3174's with a coax..been awhile...
FEP(3745) totally different issue unless the 3174's are attached to Token Rinf 
( 
havent heard that one for awhile ) , or a ethernet segment.
The speed still would be based on how the 3745 is attached where it is a 
Boundary Node or channel attached..
 
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From: R.S. 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 11:10:38 AM
Subject: Re: coax (3174) throughput

W dniu 2011-04-06 16:57, Scott Ford pisze:
> Are you concerned about thruput or response time ?  What is the application
> doing ?  How much data is being sent/received ?
> 
> 
> These would be some of the questions I would want answered if I were you..

It's pure curiosity. I don't want to create any new project based on coax 
connection. I just realised that I don't know what is the speed of coax 
connection - so I asked. It does NOT depend on application, it's not dependent 
on resonse time, there are not real data to be sent.

What is the speed of Token Ring? Simple answer is 4Mbps (16 or even 100 in 
newer 
versions). Does it depend on amount of data sent, application, response time? 
No.
Similar question can be asked about ESCON, FICON, Ethernet, RS232 in my PC, 
etc. 
And coax connection.

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread Chris Mason
Jags

I see for the second time in a few days, I will have to advise you to get in 
close touch with the folk responsible for your z/OS Communications Server 
(CS) environment, again, as with Enterprise Extender, both the IP and SNA 
(VTAM) side.

Thanks to John McKown, we have some definitions presented which I can use 
further to explain what is happening so you can pass the information on to the 
folk I just mentioned. It would appear that Ted McNeil has also made the very 
reasonable judgement given the evidence that you are *not* one of those 
folk, this being a very basic matter relating to access to TSO based on the 
TN3270 server TN3270E program.

> You probably have more people coming in via TN3270 than it has available 
3270 virtual terminals defined.

Don't go looking for "3270 virtual terminals", this is a way of expressing the 
definition requirements in terms of the RFC - or if it isn't, it could be! What 
is 
actually required is two sets of real definitions which are present in what 
John 
has posted, which provide names for resources used as the "3270 virtual 
terminals", namely,

- the DEFAULTLUS/ENDDEFAULTLUS statement block within the 
BEGINVTAM/ENDVTAM statement block in the TN3270E PROFILE data set

- the APPL statements following a VBUILD TYPE=APPL statement in a 
VTAMLST member - also known as a "major node"

These statements cause the allocation of control blocks within, respectively, 
the TN3270E program and VTAM in order to allow the TN3270E program to 
accept a TN3270 TCP connection from a TN3270 client and concatenate the 
associated 3270 data stream exchange with an SNA session using the VTAM 
API. In terms of the SNA protocol, these are logical unit (LU) names.

In the case of the DEFAULTLUS/ENDDEFAULTLUS statement block, this is only 
one way of providing the SNA LU names of the "3270 virtual terminals" but is 
the most likely for relatively simple sets of definitions. I guess we can make 
the judgement that you have the most simple configuration since you would 
otherwise need to understand the configuration rather better and you 
wouldn't be posting your query.

It is also an option which is normally used, in order to reduce the tedium of 
keying each and every LU name within the DEFAULTLUS/ENDDEFAULTLUS 
statement block, that the names are expressed as a range and a template - 
what John calls "generically" - as in John's example.

This reduced form of definition can also be matched in the VTAM APPL 
statements by being able to use, in its simplest form, a single "model" APPL 
statement, again as in John's example.

As John indicated, these definitions imply an absolute limit to the number of 
TN3270 TCP connections which can be supported at any one time since each 
of them needs to be assigned to, in effect, a pair of definitions, one as 
defined in the TN3270E program PROFILE data set and one as defined in a 
VTAM member of VTAMLST. Once all of these are used up in operation, no 
further TN3270 connections can be established. Once one of the connections -
 and the associated SNA session (an important qualification) - is 
disconnected, another connection and associated session can be established. 
Makes complete sense, doesn't it?

-

Perhaps John's example needs a little more focus on the important parameters 
and an explanation on how they work, particularly as there are some 
peculiarities!

The DEFAULTLUS/ENDDEFAULTLUS block is the following:

> DEFAULTLUS
>   DCCVDTAA..DCCVDTAZ..FFAA
> ENDDEFAULTLUS

The range specified is DCCVDTAA to DCCVDTAZ so that the names are 
DCCVDTA as a prefix with the 26 letters of the Latin alphabet as used in the 
English language and by EBCDIC codes. The template, FFAA, is not really 
all that relevant in this case since there are no choices and in fact, the 
template used could just as easily - the "peculiarity" - have been FFFA 
since the 7th character of the name doesn't change. Thus the change of "A" 
to "F". The final "A" merely says that the increment within the range must be 
an alphabetic character, but between "A" and "Z" there are no options to be 
otherwise!

The relevant section discussing this whole topic is "Rules for LU name 
specification" in Chapter 16, "TN3270E Telnet server", in the z/OS CS 
Configuration Reference manual.

When a TN3270 TCP connection is made and the nature of the definitions 
determine that the TN3270E program must find an LU name in the 
DEFAULTLUS/ENDDEFAULTLUS block, a name not currently in use is chosen. 
This becomes the name which the TN3270E program will use in the VTAM API 
calls used to establish an SNA session as a secondary LU - pretending to be 
what is/has been traditionally a "device-type" LU associated with a 3270 
display device connected through, say, a 3174 control unit.

That LU name can either be the name of an LU statement - in which case 
there would be 26 of them, just as tedious to key up as individual names 
within the DEFAULTLUS/ENDDEFAULTLUS block - or it can b

Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread Chris Mason
Jags

You had better show us your definitions. If you haven't been using the 
compressed form shown in John McKown's examples and as I explained, just 
give us some assurance that you have sufficient TN3270E program PROFILE 
data set statements defined and VTAM APPL statements defined.

Chris Mason

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 20:25:27 +0530, jagadishan perumal 
 wrote:

>Hi,
>
>There were almost 500 LUs defined and we have kept a limit of 200 tso users.
>Even though we had a shortage of LUs. Any Idea.
>
>Regards
>Jags

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread Chris Mason
Sayrabh Khandewal

I appreciate you are trying to help but the following corrections are needed:

> TSO major node in your VTAMLST

There is no such thing as a "TSO major node". What you may very well have in 
mind is a VBUILD TYPE=APPL major node in which are contained the APPL 
statements (minor nodes) which are for use by the TSO application. It is 
*not* required that a major node contains *only* the APPL statements for 
one particular application.

> Or if you can paste it here, we will be able to get some more detail on that.

What I had planned to comment here was the following:



As indicated elsewhere, there is an example of how this should be set up for 
the benefit of the Jags colleagues, the z/OS Communications Server system 
programmers, so I don't believe it will really be necessary for him to post 
what 
is in any case only part of what we would need to see in order to "spoon-
feed" a complete solution.



However I noticed that Jags is "protesting" that he/she has definitions 
equivalent to 500 LUs so, finally, we are obliged to be sure that he/she has a 
full set of definitions - not just APPL statements from a VTAMLST member.

Chris Mason

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:47:08 +0530, SAURABH KHANDELWAL 
 wrote:

>Please check definition of  TSO major node in your VTAMLST.  Or if you
>can paste it here, we will be able to get some more detail on that.
>
>
>Regards
>Saurabh
>
>On 4/6/2011 12:43 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In our shop many users are not able to connect the Mainframe. While doing
>> telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please try again later".
>> we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.
>>
>> Any idea to resolve.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jags

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread Chris Mason
Jags

John McKown assumed you were using z/OS Communications Server TN3270E 
program as your TN3270 server - and I went right along with that. However 
you may be using the OSA-ICC as your TN3270 server. Perhaps you could let 
us all know(?).

Also, I went right along with John's assumption there may be a limit in the 
definitions on the secondary side of the SNA sessions but Saurabh Khandelwal 
may have a point that it's not the "telnet" element that's at fault but the TSO 
*primary* APPLs that are insufficient. So, indeed, perhaps you should post 
some indication that there are sufficient of these - which ideally also would 
be 
minimally one model APPL statement.

Here's a sample from a project I did a little while ago:



T1TSOVBUILD TYPE=APPL

TTSO1APPL  ACBNAME=TTSO1,   interpreted and uninterpreted name *
   AUTH=(TSO,PASS,NVPACE), TSO + PASS + prevent o/b pacing *
   EAS=1,  generally one session at a time *
   FASTPASS=YES,  efficient PASS logic *
   REGISTER=CDSERVR,register LU with CD server *
   VPACING=0 no inbound pacing

TTSO1??? APPL  ACBNAME=TSO0???, interpreted and uninterpreted name *
   AUTH=(TSO,NVPACE),TSO + prevent outbound pacing *
   EAS=1,  one session *
   LOSTERM=SECOND,end session on second VARY INACT *
   MAXPVT=0,  no limit on PIUs pending RECEIVE *
   MODSRCH=FIRST, required model search option for TSO *
   REGISTER=NO, do not register LU *
   VPACING=0 no inbound pacing 



Note that I take no responsibility whatsoever at all for the naming convention. 
It was what I found and it wasn't worth the hassle of changing!

Chris Mason

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:43:33 +0530, jagadishan perumal 
 wrote:

>Hi,
>
>In our shop many users are not able to connect the Mainframe. While doing
>telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please try again later".
>we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.
>
>Any idea to resolve.
>
>Regards,
>Jags

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread McKown, John
You're right! In never occurred to me that the TSO USERMAX might be set higher 
than the number of TSO LUs defined to VTAM. 

Also, thanks for the explanation on my initial reply. I knew what I needed to 
do to get something that worked, or at least was fairly sure. But I'm not the 
best in really deep understanding and explaining. I do know that some of the 
strangeness of the 3270 LU definitions is due to copying from the past when we 
used physical DFT mode 3278 terminals for some multisession  capability, but 
mainly TPX for most of the multisession capability to logon to TSO and multiple 
CICS regions from a single physical 3278 terminal. We have eliminated TPX and 
now use multiple TN3270 sessions per user. Curiously, the ex-TPX users really 
hate this. But then I never liked using TPX. "Each to his own." I like having 
multiple TN3270 sessions visible at the same time, which is impossible with TPX.

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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:27 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: No LUs available
> 
> Jags
> 
> John McKown assumed you were using z/OS Communications Server TN3270E 
> program as your TN3270 server - and I went right along with 
> that. However 
> you may be using the OSA-ICC as your TN3270 server. Perhaps 
> you could let 
> us all know(?).
> 
> Also, I went right along with John's assumption there may be 
> a limit in the 
> definitions on the secondary side of the SNA sessions but 
> Saurabh Khandelwal 
> may have a point that it's not the "telnet" element that's at 
> fault but the TSO 
> *primary* APPLs that are insufficient. So, indeed, perhaps 
> you should post 
> some indication that there are sufficient of these - which 
> ideally also would be 
> minimally one model APPL statement.
> 
> Here's a sample from a project I did a little while ago:
> 
> 
> 
> T1TSOVBUILD TYPE=APPL
> 
> TTSO1APPL  ACBNAME=TTSO1,   interpreted and 
> uninterpreted name *
>AUTH=(TSO,PASS,NVPACE), TSO + PASS + prevent 
> o/b pacing *
>EAS=1,  generally one session 
> at a time *
>FASTPASS=YES,  efficient 
> PASS logic *
>REGISTER=CDSERVR,register LU with 
> CD server *
>VPACING=0 no inbound pacing
> 
> TTSO1??? APPL  ACBNAME=TSO0???, interpreted and 
> uninterpreted name *
>AUTH=(TSO,NVPACE),TSO + prevent 
> outbound pacing *
>EAS=1,  
> one session *
>LOSTERM=SECOND,end session on second 
> VARY INACT *
>MAXPVT=0,  no limit on PIUs 
> pending RECEIVE *
>MODSRCH=FIRST, required model search 
> option for TSO *
>REGISTER=NO, do not 
> register LU *
>VPACING=0 no 
> inbound pacing 
> 
> 
> 
> Note that I take no responsibility whatsoever at all for the 
> naming convention. 
> It was what I found and it wasn't worth the hassle of changing!
> 
> Chris Mason
> 
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:43:33 +0530, jagadishan perumal 
>  wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >In our shop many users are not able to connect the 
> Mainframe. While doing
> >telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please 
> try again later".
> >we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.
> >
> >Any idea to resolve.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jags
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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
I had non-managed VSAM datasets (zFS to be exact) on z/OS 1.8.

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I see you are at z/OS V1.9.   VSAM datasets If I remember are always SMS 
Managed and it is not until z/OS V1.12 that you can use indirect VSAM 
cataloging.  I am not sure you can copy the same name VSAM dataset.  You may 
need to copy to a new VSAM dataset name

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Rick Fochtman


... Maybe people want distributed-style application RAS;.

Excuse me, but "distributed-style RAS" seems to be, in my experience, a 
rather glaring contradiction in terms.  :-)


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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Rick Fochtman  wrote:
> 
> ... Maybe people want distributed-style application RAS;.
> 
> Excuse me, but "distributed-style RAS" seems to be, in my experience, a
> rather glaring contradiction in terms.  :-)

Please consider the RAS on the US domestic phone switching network.
It is a distributed system that (to my knowledge) does not use z/OS or
zSeries hardware.  You also have service providers like Google, the
global DNS servers, etc.  The list can be easily extended to
demonstrate extremely good RAS overall on a distributed system where
high RAS is deemed important.

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> Rick
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Accessing MF Data From Distributed Systems

2011-04-06 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Luckily this required info is not for our shop,  another MF is biting the dust 
here in the north east. The powers that be are concerned about accessing data 
that resides in a VTS/ATL device once the plug is pulled on the MF, should 
there be a need to. Is there any software/hardware product that provides the 
capability to access data in that device from a distributed platform, most 
likely HP or Linux. That's all the info I have for now.

Anybody been there, done that?

Thanks Matt

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
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> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
> 
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Rick Fochtman 
>  wrote:
> > 
> 
> 
> > ... Maybe people want distributed-style application RAS;.
> > 
> --
> --
> > Excuse me, but "distributed-style RAS" seems to be, in my 
> experience, a
> > rather glaring contradiction in terms.  :-)
> 
> Please consider the RAS on the US domestic phone switching network.
> It is a distributed system that (to my knowledge) does not use z/OS or
> zSeries hardware.  You also have service providers like Google, the
> global DNS servers, etc.  The list can be easily extended to
> demonstrate extremely good RAS overall on a distributed system where
> high RAS is deemed important.
> 

On this forum "distributed" is usually a synonym for "Windows on Intel". Server 
class Intel hardware is fairly good. Linux is fairly good. IMO, Windows is not 
as good as Linux, although in "server mode" as opposed to "desktop mode", it is 
not as bad as it used to be. Where Windows fares poorly is when you run non-MS 
software on it. Windows doesn't protect itself as well as z/OS or Linux or 
UNIX. It is simply too easy to "lie" to Windows, have it do something stupid, 
then roll over and die. Example: one process can send a message to another 
process. The second process has no way of telling who actually sent the 
message. It's like a bank cashing a hand written check with no signature. 

I don't know what hardware the phone switches run on. But, from what I've been 
told, the software is usually written in Erlang. I have been reading up and 
trying to learn about Erlang (and Haskell). It is a "functional programming" 
language. It is far, far more difficult to write code in a functional 
programming language which does things like buffer overflow or gets "bad data". 
Erlang, likeunto Java, runs in a virtual instruction environment. I.e. it 
doesn't run on the bare hardware, but an instruction interpreter. And 
"variables" don't vary! "Variables" are actually "symbolic names" which are 
WORM. Once assigned a value, you can't change it! So a routine __cannot__ have 
any "side effects" on "global variables", as is done in C or even COBOL. It is 
a very interesting language. And is designed for parallel processing, so it 
very efficient in its multitasking and so is very good for a "multi-core" 
architecture. Well, enough off-topic from me. 

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
s...@pscsi.net (Sam Siegel) writes:
> Please consider the RAS on the US domestic phone switching network.
> It is a distributed system that (to my knowledge) does not use z/OS or
> zSeries hardware.  You also have service providers like Google, the
> global DNS servers, etc.  The list can be easily extended to
> demonstrate extremely good RAS overall on a distributed system where
> high RAS is deemed important.

long ago & far away ... my wife had been con'ed into going to POK to be
in charge of loosely-coupled architecture ... where she did
"peer-coupled shared data" architecture ... which except for IMS
hot-standby, saw very little update until sysplex & parallel sysplex.
She didn't remain very long ... in part because of the slow uptake
... but also the periodic battles with the communication group trying to
force her into using SNA for loosely-coupled operation. misc. past
posts mentioning peer-coupled shared data architecture
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#shareddata

when we were doing HA/CMP product for the company ... I had coined the
terms "disaster survivability" and "geographic survivability" (to
differentiate from disaster/recovery). I had also been asked to write a
section for the corporate continuous availability strategy document
... but it got pulled when both Rochester (as/400) and POK (mainframe)
complained (that they couldn't meet the requirements). We also did some
work with the 1-800 service (database service that maps 1-800 numbers to
"real" exchange number ... required five-nines availability). misc.
past posts mentioning ha/cmp
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp

later we had some dealings with one of the large financial transaction
infrastructures ... and they attributed thier multiple year, 100%
availability to

* geographically separated, replicated IMS hot-standby operation
* automated operator

i.e. as hardware has became much more reliable ... unscheduled outages
came to be dominated by environmental issues/outages and human mistakes

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Re: Accessing MF Data From Distributed Systems

2011-04-06 Thread McKown, John
Depends on the device. Our ATL is connected via SCSI to a Wintel server as well 
as via Ficon to our z. The individual drives within the ATL are actually SCSI 
(3590) and a drive is either assigned to the Wintel controller or the Ficon 
attached controller. But they are the same drives. Switching does require a CE.

Now, even if you can physically read the data on the tapes, can you process it? 
That's a different question entirely. If it is sequential data written by a 
COBOL program, and you have the COBOL copybook describing it, then maybe. But 
much of our data is written using vendor utilities such as IDCAMS EXPORT or 
CA-ISM FAVER. Reading that would be a trip. Or a DFDSS backup dump. Or HSM. 

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> 
> Luckily this required info is not for our shop,  another MF 
> is biting the dust here in the north east. The powers that be 
> are concerned about accessing data that resides in a VTS/ATL 
> device once the plug is pulled on the MF, should there be a 
> need to. Is there any software/hardware product that provides 
> the capability to access data in that device from a 
> distributed platform, most likely HP or Linux. That's all the 
> info I have for now.
> 
> Anybody been there, done that?
> 
> Thanks Matt
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Serverpac GIMUNZIP

2011-04-06 Thread Ken Porowski
Trying to install z/OS 1.11 but the RESTORE job gags on the restore of
SMPPTS

DATE 04/05/11  TIME 14:08:07  SMP/E
35.31   
UNIX COMMAND OUTPUT

 

> /bin/pax -zvrf
/u/smpe/shopz/OS125185.content/S0898.CPPUNLD.OS125185.SMPE.SMP 
> PTS.pax.Z ./GIMFAF.XML

 

./GIMFAF.XML


--- 
DATE 04/05/11  TIME 14:24:27  SMP/E
35.31   
UNIX COMMAND OUTPUT

 

> /bin/pax -zvrf
/u/smpe/shopz/OS125185.content/S0898.CPPUNLD.OS125185.SMPE.SMP 
> PTS.pax.Z

 

./GIMFAF.XML

./MVSFILE

pax: FSUM6260 write error on file "./MVSFILE": EDC5119I File too large.



I run a pax -vf 

-rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS1680 Oct 14 20:45 ./GIMFAF.XML 
-rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS 2719681281 Oct 14 20:45 ./MVSFILE  

It appears that the ./MVSFILE is over 2 Gig

Anyone know how I can restore this?


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Re: Serverpac GIMUNZIP

2011-04-06 Thread Staller, Allan
ISTR a PDSE is required for SMPPTS. Check the SERVERPAC doc...

HTH,


Trying to install z/OS 1.11 but the RESTORE job gags on the restore of
SMPPTS

-rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS1680 Oct 14 20:45 ./GIMFAF.XML 
-rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS 2719681281 Oct 14 20:45 ./MVSFILE  

It appears that the ./MVSFILE is over 2 Gig

Anyone know how I can restore this?


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Re: Serverpac GIMUNZIP

2011-04-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
My NTS for z/OS 1.11 is 8 mod3 3390 as an HFS.
My NTS for z/OS 1.12 is 9 mod3 3390 in a ZFS

I also have a full mod 9 HFS for SMPWKDIR

Dave Gibney
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> 
> Trying to install z/OS 1.11 but the RESTORE job gags on the restore of
SMPPTS
> 
> DATE 04/05/11  TIME 14:08:07
SMP/E
> 35.31
> UNIX COMMAND OUTPUT
> 
> 
> 
> > /bin/pax -zvrf
> /u/smpe/shopz/OS125185.content/S0898.CPPUNLD.OS125185.SMPE.SMP
> > PTS.pax.Z ./GIMFAF.XML
> 
> 
> 
> ./GIMFAF.XML
> 
>

> ---
> DATE 04/05/11  TIME 14:24:27
SMP/E
> 35.31
> UNIX COMMAND OUTPUT
> 
> 
> 
> > /bin/pax -zvrf
> /u/smpe/shopz/OS125185.content/S0898.CPPUNLD.OS125185.SMPE.SMP
> > PTS.pax.Z
> 
> 
> 
> ./GIMFAF.XML
> 
> ./MVSFILE
> 
> pax: FSUM6260 write error on file "./MVSFILE": EDC5119I File too
large.
> 
> 
> 
> I run a pax -vf
> 
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS1680 Oct 14 20:45 ./GIMFAF.XML
> -rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS 2719681281 Oct 14 20:45 ./MVSFILE
> 
> It appears that the ./MVSFILE is over 2 Gig
> 
> Anyone know how I can restore this?
> 
> 
> Ken Porowski
> E: ken.porow...@cit.com
> 
> 
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Re: Accessing MF Data From Distributed Systems

2011-04-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
The underlying files for our VTA are .aws
I've never needed to read them native, but I expect the Hercules tool
set could do it.

Dave Gibney
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> Depends on the device. Our ATL is connected via SCSI to a Wintel
server as
> well as via Ficon to our z. The individual drives within the ATL are
actually SCSI
> (3590) and a drive is either assigned to the Wintel controller or the
Ficon
> attached controller. But they are the same drives. Switching does
require a
> CE.
> 
> Now, even if you can physically read the data on the tapes, can you
process
> it? That's a different question entirely. If it is sequential data
written by a
> COBOL program, and you have the COBOL copybook describing it, then
> maybe. But much of our data is written using vendor utilities such as
IDCAMS
> EXPORT or CA-ISM FAVER. Reading that would be a trip. Or a DFDSS
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> > Luckily this required info is not for our shop,  another MF is
biting
> > the dust here in the north east. The powers that be are concerned
> > about accessing data that resides in a VTS/ATL device once the plug
is
> > pulled on the MF, should there be a need to. Is there any
> > software/hardware product that provides the capability to access
data
> > in that device from a distributed platform, most likely HP or Linux.
> > That's all the info I have for now.
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> > Anybody been there, done that?
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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 April 2011 14:57, Sam Siegel  wrote:

> Please consider the RAS on the US domestic phone switching network.
> It is a distributed system that (to my knowledge) does not use z/OS or
> zSeries hardware.  You also have service providers like Google, the
> global DNS servers, etc.  The list can be easily extended to
> demonstrate extremely good RAS overall on a distributed system where
> high RAS is deemed important.

The criteria are quite different. A public phone system that connects
0.0001 percent of calls to the wrong place and drops a similar number
in mid call is perfectly acceptable. A phone system (even a single
local switch serving 10,000 lines) that is down for one minute a week
is completely unacceptable.

A telephone billing system that computes the wrong price for 0.0001
percent of billed calls is completely unacceptable. But if the billing
system is down one minute per week, no one will even notice.

Google search is a lot more like the phone system than it is like the
phone billing system.

Tony H.

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes:
> The criteria are quite different. A public phone system that connects
> 0.0001 percent of calls to the wrong place and drops a similar number
> in mid call is perfectly acceptable. A phone system (even a single
> local switch serving 10,000 lines) that is down for one minute a week
> is completely unacceptable.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#4 Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

there was an incident a few years back where the 1-800 mapping for major
percentage of the POS (point-of-sale) card-swipe terminals in the US was
down for 12 minutes during a mid-day period ... this was treated as a
serious corporate incident between major transaction processor and major
telco operation.

five-nines availability is something like 5min (total) outage per year
(includes both scheduled and unscheduled).

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Re: Accessing MF Data From Distributed Systems

2011-04-06 Thread Hal Merritt
Short answer: most likely no. 

You might could 'access' the data, but would have little hope of making any 
sense of it. I'd take a look at a contingency contract with a service provider. 
 

And test the service, of course. 
 


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Subject: Accessing MF Data From Distributed Systems

Luckily this required info is not for our shop,  another MF is biting the dust 
here in the north east. The powers that be are concerned about accessing data 
that resides in a VTS/ATL device once the plug is pulled on the MF, should 
there be a need to. Is there any software/hardware product that provides the 
capability to access data in that device from a distributed platform, most 
likely HP or Linux. That's all the info I have for now.

Anybody been there, done that?

Thanks Matt

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 6 April 2011 15:19, McKown, John  wrote:

> I don't know what hardware the phone switches run on. But, from what I've 
> been told, the software is usually written in Erlang.

If we're talking about "traditional" circuit-switching digital
switches, i.e. those that ran the North American public system from
around the time of the AT&T breakup to the time when VOIP quite
suddenly became the backbone of the phone system, then really the
hardware is dedicated to circuit-switching tasks, and a general
purpose CPU (with failover) treats the switching fabric as I/O devices
to be directed. The CPU can be rebooted without affecting calls in
progress. Of the two big vendors in North America, AT&T wrote most of
their code in C, while Nortel used their own proprietary language
called Protel. I don't know what the European vendors did.

The current phone system is a lot harder to differentiate from the
Internet we all know, since it's really a matter of packet switching
of arbitrary data, some of which happens to represent phone calls. And
the endpoints are much more variable than the traditional analogue
desk telephone. But as with the Cisco or 3Com or Juniper router in
your datacentre, or the bigger one at the ISP, there is specialized
hardware directed by general purpose CPUs, and the hardware generally
stays up despite program failure on the CPUs. You can even see this in
a small way on the typical little home cable or DSL router; it's not
uncommon for the program to crash, thus losing the firewall and NAT
functions, but the switch portion of the box will happily keep
switching those packets.

We digress, and it's not yet Friday.

Tony H.

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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Sam Siegel

> The criteria are quite different. A public phone system that connects
> 0.0001 percent of calls to the wrong place and drops a similar number
> in mid call is perfectly acceptable. A phone system (even a single
> local switch serving 10,000 lines) that is down for one minute a week
> is completely unacceptable.
>
> A telephone billing system that computes the wrong price for 0.0001
> percent of billed calls is completely unacceptable. But if the billing
> system is down one minute per week, no one will even notice.
>
> Google search is a lot more like the phone system than it is like the
> phone billing system.
>
> Tony H.
>


Google is designed to be reliable at the system level running on
unreliable hardware.  See:
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/062906-google-builds-own-servers-for.html?t51hb&nladname=wirelessal

The telephone billing systems for the 'baby bells' IIRC is z/OS based.
 Billing inaccuracies has little to do with platform stability and
everything to do with application design.  Do to the complexity of the
billing systems, far more than 0.0001 percent of the billings are
incorrect to some degree.  There is an entire industry (example:
http://www.ameritelinc.com/phone-bill-analysis) whose sole purpose is
to find inaccuracies and recoup costs.

My main point is that application design and implementation can
overcome the inherent unreliabilities of hardware and other software
components.

zSeries hardware proves the point.  It has redundant internal
components and instruction retry which are engaged transparently to
the application and (I think) to the operating system.   IBM has
invested billions to make this work correctly.  z/OS has many dynamic
recovery features (sysplex, etc.) built in that allow applications
platforms (CICS, IMS, DB2, etc.) to survive failures.





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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Sam Siegel

> there was an incident a few years back where the 1-800 mapping for major
> percentage of the POS (point-of-sale) card-swipe terminals in the US was
> down for 12 minutes during a mid-day period ... this was treated as a
> serious corporate incident between major transaction processor and major
> telco operation.
>
> five-nines availability is something like 5min (total) outage per year
> (includes both scheduled and unscheduled).
>



I was at the processor at the time.  The problem was something in the
frame-relay network.

I don't know the specifics of the issue.

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Re: Serverpac GIMUNZIP - Solved

2011-04-06 Thread Ken Porowski
My bad, I allocate SMPWKDIR as a TFS but went with the default -b 0
which limits filesize to 2 Gig,  reallocated with -b 1 and it worked
fine. 

-Original Message-
Porowski, Ken

Trying to install z/OS 1.11 but the RESTORE job gags on the restore of
SMPPTS

DATE 04/05/11  TIME 14:08:07  SMP/E
35.31   
UNIX COMMAND OUTPUT
> /bin/pax -zvrf
/u/smpe/shopz/OS125185.content/S0898.CPPUNLD.OS125185.SMPE.SMP 
> PTS.pax.Z ./GIMFAF.XML
./GIMFAF.XML

--- 
DATE 04/05/11  TIME 14:24:27  SMP/E
35.31   
UNIX COMMAND OUTPUT
> /bin/pax -zvrf
/u/smpe/shopz/OS125185.content/S0898.CPPUNLD.OS125185.SMPE.SMP 
> PTS.pax.Z
./GIMFAF.XML
./MVSFILE
pax: FSUM6260 write error on file "./MVSFILE": EDC5119I File too large.

I run a pax -vf 

-rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS1680 Oct 14 20:45 ./GIMFAF.XML 
-rwxrwxr-x   1 CNMSTASK NEWUSERS 2719681281 Oct 14 20:45 ./MVSFILE  

It appears that the ./MVSFILE is over 2 Gig

Anyone know how I can restore this?


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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2011-04-06 21:50, Tony Harminc pisze:

On 6 April 2011 14:57, Sam Siegel  wrote:

[...]

A telephone billing system that computes the wrong price for 0.0001
percent of billed calls is completely unacceptable.


Wrong. Plain wrong. BTDT.
It also apply to banking systems and even pharmacy systems.
Colleague of mine told me about rules in wholesale pharmacy warehouse 
trading ...narcotic drugs (I mean legal medicines used under special 
restricted prescription). Error rate is defined by official rules and 
it's not 0%.
Mistakes, wrong banking fees or interest rates do happen in real world 
and - last but not least - in vast majority of cases it is completely 
unrelated to hardware and OS. It's business logic and their 
implementation in the application. No sysplex, no RAS could help here.



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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Ed Finnell
We had a case where one of our competitors made a 5 million dollar  
accounting
 mistake and the guy converted to travelers checks and left the  country. 
Anyway, when the case came to trial he proclaimed divine intervention.  Few 
of the managers took lunch breaks to hear the testimony. 'Nope nothing  
divine about it, pure screw up on our part...'
 ofIn a message dated 4/6/2011 3:51:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl writes:
 
It's  business logic and their 
implementation in the application. No sysplex, no  RAS could help here.




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2011-04-06 Thread Dale McCart
From:   Walter Marguccio 
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Subject:Re: Weird Reply Fragments (Was: Re: Mainframe Fresher)
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> I use YAHOO (.ca), and that has
>> My first guess would be yahoo.


> I use YAHOO (.ca), and that has never happened with my posts.

I use yahoo.com, and I also see strange fragments when I reply to every 
ibm-main 
post.

One other problem I have occurs when I want to write to the listserv to, 
say, 
temporarily
disable receiving posts. A simple e-mail with SET IBM-MAIN NOMAIL in the 
body of 
the message
is rejected by listserv, because the latter reads some strange chinese 
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I wonder if Scott gets the same results trying to send a command to list 
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Re: Serverpac GIMUNZIP - Solved

2011-04-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:40:35 -0400, Ken Porowski wrote:

>My bad, I allocate SMPWKDIR as a TFS but went with the default -b 0
>which limits filesize to 2 Gig,  reallocated with -b 1 and it worked
>fine.
>
I'm curious: can the user create a TFS that lasts for the duration
of a job, kind of like a temp DSN, or does it require RACF admin
privileges?

It would perhaps be neatest if the user could allocate a
HFS/zFS(/TFS?) embedded in a temp DSN (-nosuid, of course).

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Re: Mainframe Fresher

2011-04-06 Thread Stephen Y Odo
And that's one of the biggest reasons that my management is willing to
spend a lot of money migrating everything we have off of the mainframe ...


> But Corporate America is going to get a rude awaking when us 'dinosaurs' call 
> it
> quits.these 30+ yr olds dont want to know about z/OS and IBM ...

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Re: Mainframe Fresher

2011-04-06 Thread Stephen Y Odo
On 04/04/2011 10:31 AM, McKown, John wrote:
> We own too much historical data and processing. The cost to convert our VSAM 
> files to MS SQL files, convert the current CICS transactions and batch 
> programs to something runnable on Windows, and the cost to convert the batch 
> processes (JCL) has a return of investment of about 4 to 5 years. NYC 
> management says that is too long and has a large up-front capital outlay. It 
> is, short term, cheaper to stay on z/OS. What is happening is our company is 
> transitioning from a normal Health Insurance company to a supplemental 
> insurance company (kind of like Aflac, but no duck). As we do this, our 
> policy base on the mainframe shrinks and the new stuff is all on the 
> distributed side (lots of apps on agent's laptops, tablets, and smartphones). 
> So it is simply less expensive to just let the z die a gradual death. I 
> believe they sincerely want the z dead and gone. But the assassin costs too 
> much. I don't know about all companies. But around here "long term" seems to 
> be "next month" .!
  S!
>  eriously, most things around here seem to be on a quarterly basis. I'm 
> trying to figure out the difference between "quick and agile" and 
> "indecisive". But the new business is off to a strong start. Not that it will 
> help the z. 

that was the case with our management too ... but it's taken far too
long to let it die a gradual death ... for roughly 22 years they've been
starving the mainframe (no personnel resources, no budget support,
etc.). at every opportunity, a piece of it was moved to the distributed
environment. we're close, but still not there ...

of the original team of 5 who supported every aspect of the mainframe
from OS to ADABAS to CICS to SNA to TCP/IP to DFSMS to AFP to ... I am
the last one (and have been for the last few years) ... and I'm eligible
for retirement in 3 years. so now they're going to throw even more money
at the project to migrate us off of the mainframe ... because it has to
be done before I retire (don't they realize that if they got me a new
zEnterprise I wouldn't WANT to retire!) ...

I think they'd get far more value by investing in the mainframe (upgrade
our aging z890, bring on some IFLs, get z/VM, etc.) and spend a few
bucks training some young folks to manage it. but that's not their vision.

keep trying to point out that a system that can be run by a single guy
has to have some advantage over a bunch (about 200) of servers that
takes 22 sysadmins and DBAs (and we're hiring 2 more) to manage. and all
those servers and ancillary switches, routers, loadbalancers, etc. must
cost more than our single z890. and the cooling and power costs of those
200 servers must dwarf the environmentals of our little z890. and what
about those per-core Oracle licenses?

anyway, my management has decided that it's time to bite the bullet and
pay the assassin. assassin says they can get the job done by year-end
2012 ...

on the "up" side ... I get to work with VMware clusters when our
mainframe goes away ... way cool and fun stuff to play with ... not as
cool as z/VM ... but cool enough to keep me happy ...

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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread chen lucky
I have following question about this ADRDSSU COPY,
1.in original post, there is no 'delete' parameter specified, but even so,
there are still some DataSets had been copied successfully. Do not know why,
may these copied ones are not cataloged? seems not the reason.
2.'PROCESS(SYS1)' is also not specified, but some SYS1.** get copied
successfully, still do not know why, strange……

2011/4/7 Schwarz, Barry A 

> I had non-managed VSAM datasets (zFS to be exact) on z/OS 1.8.
>
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>
> I see you are at z/OS V1.9.   VSAM datasets If I remember are always SMS
> Managed and it is not until z/OS V1.12 that you can use indirect VSAM
> cataloging.  I am not sure you can copy the same name VSAM dataset.  You may
> need to copy to a new VSAM dataset name
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Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS

2011-04-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
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We had a case where one of our competitors made a 5 million dollar  
accounting
 mistake and the guy converted to travelers checks and left the  country. 
Anyway, when the case came to trial he proclaimed divine intervention.  Few 
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divine about it, pure screw up on our part...'
 ofIn a message dated 4/6/2011 3:51:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Re: RESMIL in a MONOPLEX

2011-04-06 Thread Shane
I thought we'd been through this before, but can't find it. Strictly
speaking, this is a one system ring, and therefor you could expect some
"setup" costs.
ISTR Mr Fagen advancing the knowledge that in such a setup GRS has
the smarts to ignore all the RSA management. But I can't find any
evidence in the archives. So it probably doesn't matter what you set it
to, although I've always preferred zero.

As for the ENQ issues, maybe have a look at the ADRUENQ usermod. Dallas
were always pretty accommodating when I needed to ask for something.

Shane ...

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 10:46:53 -0400 Scott Rowe wrote:

> Monoplex is not the issue, the existence (or not) of a ring is.
> Since you are not in a GRS ring, you are not affected.

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Re: *CNZ4201E OPERLOG HAS FAILED

2011-04-06 Thread chen lucky
Hi Nick, in this case If want to access operlog from ZOSA, how to switch?

2011/4/6 Nick Jones 

> Hi Jags,
>
> I see:
>
> >SYSPLEX.OPERLOG*DASDONLY*
> >  SYSNAME: ZOSB
> >DUPLEXING: STAGING DATA SET
> > DUPLEXING: STAGING DATA SET
> >   GROUP: PRODUCTION
>
> When you configure Operlog as a dasdonly log stream, you can only access it
> from
> one system in your sysplex at a time.  Is operlog connected on system ZOSB
> and
> you are trying to use it on another system in your plex, perhaps ZOSA?
>
> -Nick Jones
> Logger L3
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How to start RMF Monitor III automatically after IPL the system.

2011-04-06 Thread ibmnew
Hi all 

 We don't have SA. 

 How to start RMF Monitor III automatically after IPL the system?

Any suggestions is apprecited!

Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai

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Re: Accessing MF Data From Distributed Systems

2011-04-06 Thread Ron Hawkins
Hal I have to agree.

The data written to the ATL on FICON channels will be CKD structure which is
encapsulated into SCSI FBA at some point between the FICON interface and
disk buffer. It's all SCSI after that.

To read the data on the mainframe tapes from Fibre Channel the ATL vendor
would likely have to provide an API that understands the proprietary
encapsulation process in order to read the SCSI blocks, strip of the
wrappers and reassemble the CKD blocks. Once the block is assembled it would
have to be passed to another procedure to process the block based on its
format (FB, VB, VBS. Etc), and convert each field to ASCII and appropriate
numeric formats.

The short answer is I think they are screwed unless they export the tapes to
another compatible ATL and read them with FICON.

Ron

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> 
> Short answer: most likely no.
> 
> You might could 'access' the data, but would have little hope of making
any
> sense of it. I'd take a look at a contingency contract with a service
> provider.
> 
> And test the service, of course.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Luckily this required info is not for our shop,  another MF is biting the
dust
> here in the north east. The powers that be are concerned about accessing
data
> that resides in a VTS/ATL device once the plug is pulled on the MF, should
> there be a need to. Is there any software/hardware product that provides
the
> capability to access data in that device from a distributed platform, most
> likely HP or Linux. That's all the info I have for now.
> 
> Anybody been there, done that?
> 
> Thanks Matt
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Re: DATACLASS

2011-04-06 Thread ibmnew
Hi 

 Thanks your answers.

 I am sorry that I just came back by holiday 

Today I submit the following JCL:
//ALOCHSKP EXEC PGM=IEFBR14  
//MESSAGE  DD DSN=ABSP.CEB.TEST9,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//UNIT=3390,SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),
// DCB=(LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900,RECFM=FB)
 
Below is the output: Data class . . . . . : DCSTD  

 Data Set Name . . . . : ABSP.CEB.TEST9  
 
 General Data   Current Allocation   
  Management class . . : **None**Allocated blocks  . : 2 
  Storage class  . . . : SCSTAND Allocated extents . : 1 
   Volume serial . . . : BD3A20  
   Device type . . . . : 3390
  Data class . . . . . : DCSTD   
   Organization  . . . : PS Current Utilization  
   Record format . . . : FB  Used blocks . . . . : 0 
   Record length . . . : 300 Used extents  . . . : 0 
   Block size  . . . . : 27900   
   1st extent blocks . : 2   
   Secondary blocks  . : 10 Dates
   Data set name type  : Creation date . . . : 2011/04/07
   SMS Compressible. . : NO  Referenced date . . : ***None***
 Expiration date . . : ***None***

Then I submit the other JCL below:
//ALOCHSKP EXEC PGM=IEFBR14  
//MESSAGE  DD DSN=ABSP.CEB.TEST8,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//UNIT=3390,SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),DSORG=PS,   
// DCB=(LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900,RECFM=FB)

The output is below:Data class . . . . . : DCPS 
   

Data Set Name . . . . : ABSP.CEB.TEST8  

General Data   Current Allocation   
 Management class . . : **None**Allocated blocks  . : 10
 Storage class  . . . : SCSTAND Allocated extents . : 1 
  Volume serial . . . : BD3A31  
  Device type . . . . : 3390
 Data class . . . . . : DCPS
  Organization  . . . : PS Current Utilization  
  Record format . . . : FB  Used blocks . . . . : 0 
  Record length . . . : 300 Used extents  . . . : 0 
  Block size  . . . . : 27900   
  1st extent blocks . : 10  
  Secondary blocks  . : 10 Dates
  Data set name type  : Creation date . . . : 2011/04/07
  SMS Compressible. . : NO  Referenced date . . : ***None***
Expiration date . . : ***None***


My question:

 When I allocate a dataset using PGM=IEFBR14  with  SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),

 Could the parm of space ask system to allocate a PS dataset? 

Why do we must use DSORG=PS in the JCL?


For LRECL=0 and  BLKSIZE=0 

I submit the following JCL

//ALOCHSKP EXEC PGM=IEFBR14   
//MESSAGE  DD DSN=ABSP.CEB.TEST7,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), 
//UNIT=3390,SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),DCB=PATTERN  


the PATTERN is allocted by the jcl below

 
/D0   DD DSN=PATTERN,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),UNIT=3390,  
//DCB=(LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=0), 
//VOL=SER=BD3WK1,SPACE=(TRK,(0,0,0)) 


Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai


On 4/1/2011 18:36, Ron Hawkins wrote:
> I am 033x tomorrow!
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of
>> Scott Ford
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:35 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DATACLASS
>>
>> NowI get it, thanks my man...btw I was 60 last august
>>
>> Sco
>> Ron,
>>
>> NowI get it, thanks my man...btw I was 60 last august
>>
>> Scott J Ford
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Ron Hawkins
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 5:25:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: DATACLASS
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> I may be older then.
>>
>> The JCL is pretty much run of the mill placeholder allocation. It's a
> pretty
>> common practice to pre-allocate your space like this. Some shops add the
> DCB
>> info in the IEFBR14 and some shops add it on the step that opens the file.

Re: DATACLASS

2011-04-06 Thread ibmnew
Hi 

Yes. I am trying to create  a DATACLAS and associated rules that will 
provide a set of default
  characteristics for a DSORG=PS file. 
 
  If DSORG=PS must be used in the JCL, We need change a lot of JCL.

 Is there other method to do it without using DSORG=PS  in the JCL? 


Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai 

---


 
Hi 
 Thanks your answers.
 I am sorry that I just came back by holiday 
Today I submit the following JCL:
//ALOCHSKP EXEC PGM=IEFBR14  
//MESSAGE  DD DSN=ABSP.CEB.TEST9,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//UNIT=3390,SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),
// DCB=(LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900,RECFM=FB)

Below is the output: Data class . . . . . : DCSTD  
 Data Set Name . . . . : ABSP.CEB.TEST9  
 
 General Data   Current Allocation   
  Management class . . : **None**Allocated blocks  . : 2 
  Storage class  . . . : SCSTAND Allocated extents . : 1 
   Volume serial . . . : BD3A20  
   Device type . . . . : 3390
  Data class . . . . . : DCSTD   
   Organization  . . . : PS Current Utilization  
   Record format . . . : FB  Used blocks . . . . : 0 
   Record length . . . : 300 Used extents  . . . : 0 
   Block size  . . . . : 27900   
   1st extent blocks . : 2   
   Secondary blocks  . : 10 Dates
   Data set name type  : Creation date . . . : 2011/04/07
   SMS Compressible. . : NO  Referenced date . . : ***None***
 Expiration date . . : ***None***
Then I submit the other JCL below:
//ALOCHSKP EXEC PGM=IEFBR14  
//MESSAGE  DD DSN=ABSP.CEB.TEST8,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
//UNIT=3390,SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),DSORG=PS,   
// DCB=(LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900,RECFM=FB)
The output is below:Data class . . . . . : DCPS 
   
Data Set Name . . . . : ABSP.CEB.TEST8  

General Data   Current Allocation   
 Management class . . : **None**Allocated blocks  . : 10
 Storage class  . . . : SCSTAND Allocated extents . : 1 
  Volume serial . . . : BD3A31  
  Device type . . . . : 3390
 Data class . . . . . : DCPS
  Organization  . . . : PS Current Utilization  
  Record format . . . : FB  Used blocks . . . . : 0 
  Record length . . . : 300 Used extents  . . . : 0 
  Block size  . . . . : 27900   
  1st extent blocks . : 10  
  Secondary blocks  . : 10 Dates
  Data set name type  : Creation date . . . : 2011/04/07
  SMS Compressible. . : NO  Referenced date . . : ***None***
Expiration date . . : ***None***
My question:
 When I allocate a dataset using PGM=IEFBR14  with  SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),
 Could the parm of space ask system to allocate a PS dataset? 
Why do we must use DSORG=PS in the JCL?
For LRECL=0 and  BLKSIZE=0 
I submit the following JCL
//ALOCHSKP EXEC PGM=IEFBR14   
//MESSAGE  DD DSN=ABSP.CEB.TEST7,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), 
//UNIT=3390,SPACE=(4096,(10,10)),DCB=PATTERN  
the PATTERN is allocted by the jcl below

/D0   DD DSN=PATTERN,DISP=(NEW,CATLG),UNIT=3390,  
//DCB=(LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=0), 
//VOL=SER=BD3WK1,SPACE=(TRK,(0,0,0)) 
Thanks a lot!
Jason Cai
On 4/1/2011 18:36, Ron Hawkins wrote:
> I am 033x tomorrow!
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of
>> Scott Ford
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:35 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DATACLASS
>>
>> NowI get it, thanks my man...btw I was 60 last august
>>
>> Sco
>> Ron,
>>
>> NowI get it, thanks my man...btw I was 60 last august
>>
>> Scott J Ford
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: Ron Hawkins
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.u

Re: How to start RMF Monitor III automatically after IPL the system.

2011-04-06 Thread Anthony Thompson
>From context, I suppose SA means System Automation.

You can use PARMLIB's MPFLST to call a program on receipt of the RMF 
initialization complete message (ERB100I); the program calls SVC34 to issue the 
S RMFGAT command (or whatever). The program can be generalized for other system 
automation since the message it triggers on is available to the program.

In a previous barebones (z/OS 1.8. 1.9) site I used the venerable OTTO from 
file 332 of the CBT tape quite successfully. File 623 might be more functional, 
but I can't personally vouch for that one. 

Ant.
Northern Territory Govt., Australia 

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Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: How to start RMF Monitor III automatically after IPL the system.

Hi all 

 We don't have SA. 

 How to start RMF Monitor III automatically after IPL the system?

Any suggestions is apprecited!

Thanks a lot!

Jason Cai

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Re: No LUs available

2011-04-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Chris Mason/john,

Thanks a lot for your Help. The Issue has bee resolved.

Thanks again to John for a precise explanation.!

Regards,
Jags

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:08 PM, McKown, John  wrote:

> You're right! In never occurred to me that the TSO USERMAX might be set
> higher than the number of TSO LUs defined to VTAM.
>
> Also, thanks for the explanation on my initial reply. I knew what I needed
> to do to get something that worked, or at least was fairly sure. But I'm not
> the best in really deep understanding and explaining. I do know that some of
> the strangeness of the 3270 LU definitions is due to copying from the past
> when we used physical DFT mode 3278 terminals for some multisession
>  capability, but mainly TPX for most of the multisession capability to logon
> to TSO and multiple CICS regions from a single physical 3278 terminal. We
> have eliminated TPX and now use multiple TN3270 sessions per user.
> Curiously, the ex-TPX users really hate this. But then I never liked using
> TPX. "Each to his own." I like having multiple TN3270 sessions visible at
> the same time, which is impossible with TPX.
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> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>  > Subject: Re: No LUs available
> >
> > Jags
> >
> > John McKown assumed you were using z/OS Communications Server TN3270E
> > program as your TN3270 server - and I went right along with
> > that. However
> > you may be using the OSA-ICC as your TN3270 server. Perhaps
> > you could let
> > us all know(?).
> >
> > Also, I went right along with John's assumption there may be
> > a limit in the
> > definitions on the secondary side of the SNA sessions but
> > Saurabh Khandelwal
> > may have a point that it's not the "telnet" element that's at
> > fault but the TSO
> > *primary* APPLs that are insufficient. So, indeed, perhaps
> > you should post
> > some indication that there are sufficient of these - which
> > ideally also would be
> > minimally one model APPL statement.
> >
> > Here's a sample from a project I did a little while ago:
> >
> > 
> >
> > T1TSOVBUILD TYPE=APPL
> >
> > TTSO1APPL  ACBNAME=TTSO1,   interpreted and
> > uninterpreted name *
> >AUTH=(TSO,PASS,NVPACE), TSO + PASS + prevent
> > o/b pacing *
> >EAS=1,  generally one session
> > at a time *
> >FASTPASS=YES,  efficient
> > PASS logic *
> >REGISTER=CDSERVR,register LU with
> > CD server *
> >VPACING=0 no inbound pacing
> >
> > TTSO1??? APPL  ACBNAME=TSO0???, interpreted and
> > uninterpreted name *
> >AUTH=(TSO,NVPACE),TSO + prevent
> > outbound pacing *
> >EAS=1,
> > one session *
> >LOSTERM=SECOND,end session on second
> > VARY INACT *
> >MAXPVT=0,  no limit on PIUs
> > pending RECEIVE *
> >MODSRCH=FIRST, required model search
> > option for TSO *
> >REGISTER=NO, do not
> > register LU *
> >VPACING=0 no
> > inbound pacing
> >
> > 
> >
> > Note that I take no responsibility whatsoever at all for the
> > naming convention.
> > It was what I found and it wasn't worth the hassle of changing!
> >
> > Chris Mason
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:43:33 +0530, jagadishan perumal
> >  wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >In our shop many users are not able to connect the
> > Mainframe. While doing
> > >telnet they get an error saying " NO LUs available please
> > try again later".
> > >we have checked the TSO region and it is very well running.
> > >
> > >Any idea to resolve.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Jags
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IPLed Volume

2011-04-06 Thread SAURABH KHANDELWAL

Hello,
If I have two RES volume( example IPE100 and IPE101) in 
my system, then how can I find the detail about


1) from which RES volume my system is currently IPLed.
2) Is there any option in SMPE panel, by which we can come to know about 
volume detail, my target datasets are pointing to. Also in which volume 
my DDDEF are defined ( example SYSUT1 and SYSUT2 etc)


Regards
Saurabh

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Re: ADRDSSU issue

2011-04-06 Thread SAURABH KHANDELWAL
Yes, some of the dataset were copied and the target dataset were not 
cataloged.
In my earlier JCL, I have not specified Process(SYS1), but still I was 
able to copy SYS1 datasets.



Regards
Saurabh Khandelwal






On 4/7/2011 7:24 AM, chen lucky wrote:

I have following question about this ADRDSSU COPY,
1.in original post, there is no 'delete' parameter specified, but even so,
there are still some DataSets had been copied successfully. Do not know why,
may these copied ones are not cataloged? seems not the reason.
2.'PROCESS(SYS1)' is also not specified, but some SYS1.** get copied
successfully, still do not know why, strange……

2011/4/7 Schwarz, Barry A


I had non-managed VSAM datasets (zFS to be exact) on z/OS 1.8.

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Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:34 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ADRDSSU issue

I see you are at z/OS V1.9.   VSAM datasets If I remember are always SMS
Managed and it is not until z/OS V1.12 that you can use indirect VSAM
cataloging.  I am not sure you can copy the same name VSAM dataset.  You may
need to copy to a new VSAM dataset name

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Re: IPLed Volume

2011-04-06 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,

The Display IPLINFO command will tell you where you IPL's from.

In SMP/E go to option 1, select you zone and then look at DDDEFS.

You can also to a list ddefs command in batch.

Gadi


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KHANDELWAL [saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com]
Sent: 07 April 2011 09:36
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: IPLed Volume

Hello,
 If I have two RES volume( example IPE100 and IPE101) in
my system, then how can I find the detail about

1) from which RES volume my system is currently IPLed.
2) Is there any option in SMPE panel, by which we can come to know about
volume detail, my target datasets are pointing to. Also in which volume
my DDDEF are defined ( example SYSUT1 and SYSUT2 etc)

Regards
Saurabh

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