Re: TSO receive on MultiVolume PS error

2016-05-24 Thread Paul Gillis
IND$FILE is only useful for small datasets. Its performance is woeful for
larger datasets and it is not well supported under some 3270 emulators, I
would use FTP/SFTP/NFTP etc instead.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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TRANSMIT, a TSO command processor running on the z/OS M/F, repackages the
input dataset and then writes it to JES to be handled via NJE which means
the data can be RECEIVEd wherever there is NJE connectivity.  IND$FILE
piggybacks over a 3270 type session with Comm Server and AFAIK only gets you
as far as the host you have the 3270 session with. One could use them in
series.  How about using z/OS Explorer which is a 21st century product?
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On 2016-05-22, at 14:31, R.S. wrote:

> W dniu 2016-05-20 o 18:33, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
>>> 
>> My quick check for this is (IIRC):
>> 
>> cp -B "//'DSN(MEMBER)'" /dev/fd/1 | cksum
>> 
>> ... at both ends of the transfer and compare the checksums and lengths.
>> 
> I remember how I spent half a day on such problem.
> I had to download PTF package then move it from one PC to another, using
pendrive, then upload it to z/OS and do SMPE tasks.
> I took a lot of time to recognize the reason is failing pendrive (nota
bene with IBM logo! ;-))) ). It simply changed some bytes within the file
with no CRC32 error or so. It was the last thing on the list of suspects.
>  
Ouch!  Do you mean the pendrive reported no error, or that you got the same
CRC32 on the originating PC and the destination PC?

Windows is woefully deficient in checksum utilities.  One must install one.
I use Cygwin.

But my suggestion was elliptical.  I should have mentioned the need to use
TRANSMIT with the OUTDSN option; FTP/SFTP/IND$FILE; then compare checksums;
then RECEIVE with the INDSN option.

Can TRANSMIT use IND$FILE for the TCP/IP challenged?  Can IND$FILE transfer
z/OS to z/OS?

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Re: TSO receive on MultiVolume PS error

2016-05-24 Thread Paul Gillis
I only use XMIT a.b DA(dsn) OUTDA(FB80) for smallish datasets that I may wish 
to read on a PC, otherwise a DFDSS Dump and TRS has been my standard for years 
and can handle single or multiple datasets. I used this where my intent is to 
move data from one system to another via any other type of system 
(Linux/Wndows/OS X) or just to move the data.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Subject: Re: TSO receive on MultiVolume PS error

Yes XMIT definitely supports DSORG=PS RECFM=U data sets.
Good example being DFDSS dumps.
I regularly use DFDSS to dump multiple data sets, then XMIT that dump data set 
to get a very portable RECFM=FB LRECL=80 version of the dump.
Cheers,
Mick.


On 20 May 2016 at 18:36, Jesse 1 Robinson <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> wrote:
> OP referred to a 'PS with Fo[r]mat U'. Does XMIT/RECEIVE even support PS 
> files with RECFM U? The only RECFM U files I know of are load modules, but 
> they are PO, not PS. In any case the error message refers to the XMITted 
> file, not the target.
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>
> On Fri, 20 May 2016 06:14:44 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>>
>>Are you sure your dataset has been transferred properly and fully and without 
>>errors before you tried out RECEIVE?
>>
> My quick check for this is (IIRC):
>
> cp -B "//'DSN(MEMBER)'" /dev/fd/1 | cksum
>
> ... at both ends of the transfer and compare the checksums and lengths.
>
> (Or you could write an assembler program using CSNBOWH.)
>
> -- gil
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Re: Space Calculation on z/OS sytems

2016-05-24 Thread Paul Gillis
If you have SAS and MXG then you have all the tools you need, for a cost. If 
not, then you may have to roll your own out of DCOLLECT (Disk & HSM data) and 
TMC (Tape) data, have seen it done with Rexx.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Mainframe Mainframe wrote:

>We have requirement of calculating the space utilized / consumed by our 
>all z/OS systems as well as by Tape libraries . Few points

>1) I can find with the list of volumes used/allocated by z/OS systems and this 
>will give me the space given to these system. But how can i find the exact 
>space consumed by these host from these volume.

Look at ISMF, get a list of volsers, look at pull down menu item 'List'. Select 
'Print'. Choose your columns including 'ALLOC SPACE' and you have your report.

Or you can use DCOLLECT.

There are other free and expensive solutions. Search IBM-MAIN archives for that.


>2) We are using HSM for backup to tape and I am not finding ways to calculate 
>the space consumed by these tapes.

What tape management system do you have?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Product name by module

2016-05-24 Thread Paul Gillis
TAD4z is a great Australian developed product. It stores its data in DB2 tables 
and its Knowledge Base for product/vendor/version etc. is updated monthly. It 
covers all load from all environments although CICS is normally excluded, and 
it does not matter where the load module comes from, it will find it. OMVS is 
not involved except to extract executable info from USS HFS/ZFS files. The 
product was originally developed to identify unused products that companies pay 
continually for, so you can use it to assist in controlling your software 
budget. For pricing ask your IBM rep.

I personally have no interest in TAD4z except I know the developers and the 
product very well and I am currently employed by IBM till the end of this 
Month, yes another RA.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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I know of IBM Tivoli Asset Discovery for z/OS (TADz).
It does a very good job and can show you many different graphical reports in a 
web application called Analyzer (of course you also need to have this part 
installed/configured) getting data straight from OMVS.
I don't know the price of it, as we wouldn't get that far supporting out 
clients, but I know we were able to identify some softwares like the one you 
mentioned. Even if their modules were called in STEPLIBs/JOBLIBs.

Probably some other ISVs software can do the same (and possibly even better?), 
but I don't have any personal experience with them.

Regards, Lucas
On May 21, 2016 10:15, "Peter" <dbajava...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks all for a reply and that was very useful.

The LPAR has lot of Obsolete entry on LINKLST and APF.

So is there any product which can tell me which LINKLISTED or APFed dataset are 
really used ?

Peter
On May 19, 2016 5:46 PM, "Peter Relson" <rel...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> I would have added, just in case the excellent advice previously given 
> didn't pan out:
>
> You might well get a clue simply from the name of the load module, as 
> "module prefixes" are pretty carefully managed by most.
> The prefix might not tell you all you want to know but will at least 
> usually get you to the owning company who could then provide more 
> granular info.
>
> I'm not sure how accessible to the general public is the list of 
> module prefixes vs owning company, but the information is available as 
> a last resort.
>
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [SURVEY] What ISPF terminal model do you use

2016-03-10 Thread Paul Gillis
I use the -oversize option as -oversize 134x60.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Isn't there a -model option something like:

-model n

Where n is 2 for mod 2, 3 for mod 3, etc.

I don't have access to x3270 right now but that is what I seem to recall.

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Maybe I'm being thick here but with X3270 I think I'm stuck at 32 x 80 - and
not because of the emulator but because I don't know how to get the z/OS
TSO/ISPF environment I'm using to take advantage of more.

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24x80

Yes, I have colour monitor, flat one, actually two of them, 27" each.
And still the most popular (3270) screen resolution I use is 24x80.
Atavism ;-)
I also use 43x80 and rarely 24x132 or 42x132.

BTW: I wish I would have any resolution *I want* and my application simply
supported it. That wasn't case at least for ControlM panels ("illegal"
resolutions caused abend).

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Re: COBOL v5

2016-01-29 Thread Paul Gillis
Remember one of those from the early 70s when one of our monthly ISAM update
jobs would run for almost 24 hours. One of the smarter guys around at the
time looked at it and sorted the update file, which was mainly inserts,
backwards and the job ran in less than 30 minutes, he understood ISAM
inserts really well. He was one of my colleagues that pointed me toward
systems programming.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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I'm not sure about the ISAM part.  I HATED ISAM.  If you enjoy watching your
jobs grind away seemingly foreverthen you liked ISAM.  I've always loved
VSAMmaybe because I hated ISAM so much.

Ever have ISAM job that did an Update in Place (not file in/ file
out)ugghh  !

Thanks,
Tom


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W dniu 2016-01-28 o 19:44, Charles Mills pisze:
> I cannot speak for IBM, but IMHO they may have felt that way at one 
> time, but EC 5.2 is clearly an investment on IBM's part and a 
> commitment to the future of COBOL.
>
> You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. "Add new features" and 
> "make it go into an old-fashioned load module" are potentially 
> inconsistent requirements.
>
Well, IMHO there are two kinds of mainframe customers:

a) Legacy
We don't want PDSE, We don't want binder. We don't want SMS. We still want
VSAM passwords. We don't want VSAM. ISAM was good. We don't want FICON. We
want ESCON ...for BUS connectivity. We want 3274...

b) modern
We want COBOLE AMODE64. We want HFS/ZFS >4GB. We want DSORG=PO to be
multi-volume. We want JCL modifications. Etc.

The problem is satisfying b) means troubles for a) group.


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Re: Need to find the DSN from where load module was loaded

2016-01-28 Thread Paul Gillis
No, nothing in the Unix space
Cheers,
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:36:19 +1100, Paul Gillis wrote:

>We have a standard home grown utility, a little like Eileen's, scanning LPA, 
>Dynamic LPA, Nucleus etc. It also scans all ISPF libraries if allocated, 
>including SYSPROC and SYSEXEC. Not sure why it was written originally but I 
>have used it to find what libraries load modules exist in that were mentioned 
>in the Health Checker when the size of Private Storage above and below changes 
>significantly. Also comes in handy when users complain that x does not 
>function properly and if they run this routine and find x in their own 
>libraries then they have to resolve it themselves, otherwise we have to. Our 
>customer also uses the code to perform their own basic diagnosis before 
>calling for help.
>
>Goes hand in hand with a duplicate member finder that I wrote years ago for 
>times when we had to do something similar.
> 
ISPF DDLIST is a sore point to me.  DDLIST MEMBER command fails to find members 
of UNIX directories in a mixed concatenation of UNIX directories and Classic 
PDS[E]s, even though the UNIX member may occur in a catenand earlier than the 
one reported.

Does your tool or Eileen's do better?  IBM calls the DDLIST behavior WAD.

I believe STEPLIB must not be a mixed concatenation (I haven't tried).
Mixed concatenation of SYSEXEC works but is not supported.  Mixed concatenation 
of HLASM SYSLIB is fully supported; IBM has repaired problems I've reported.

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Re: Need to find the DSN from where load module was loaded

2016-01-28 Thread Paul Gillis
We have a standard home grown utility, a little like Eileen's, scanning LPA, 
Dynamic LPA, Nucleus etc. It also scans all ISPF libraries if allocated, 
including SYSPROC and SYSEXEC. Not sure why it was written originally but I 
have used it to find what libraries load modules exist in that were mentioned 
in the Health Checker when the size of Private Storage above and below changes 
significantly. Also comes in handy when users complain that x does not function 
properly and if they run this routine and find x in their own libraries then 
they have to resolve it themselves, otherwise we have to. Our customer also 
uses the code to perform their own basic diagnosis before calling for help.

Goes hand in hand with a duplicate member finder that I wrote years ago for 
times when we had to do something similar.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Subject: Re: Need to find the DSN from where load module was loaded

On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 10:21:55 -0600, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. 
<supp...@dunnitsys.com> wrote:

>Thank you for sending me the code. I haven't looked at it yet but I'll narrow 
>down what I'm talking about:
>
>1. Environment is batch or ISPF. Check is during execution. Code is Assembler.
>2. Looking for origin DSN of program module which was loaded via LOAD macro.
>3. Loadlib can be in JOBLIB, STEPLIB or ISPF LIBDEF.
>4. There may be multiple loadlibs concatenated together in the DD allocation.

You still haven't said why you are doing this, and what you hope to accomplish 
with the information. That may be important to getting the best answer.

For the general case, as far as I know, you cannot determine the answer with 
certainty. For some specific cases of module access you may be able to 
determine the answer with a fair degree of certainty, but probably not 100% 
unless you are the owner of the code that loaded the module, and can guarantee 
the environment that code is running in.

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Re: So Long, and Thanks For All The Fish

2015-12-31 Thread Paul Gillis
Always enjoyed reading your posts, enjoy life away from us.

Regards,
Paul Gillis

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Shane ...

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Re: DLIB volume for SAD

2015-11-02 Thread Paul Gillis
If that is where you IPL SAD from, then there is no major issue as the space 
required is small. You may have to rebuild your SAS IPL text after maintenance 
or OS upgrade but if you do that after every IPL then there is no issue where 
the SAD IPL text lives.

If that is where your SYS1.SADMP dataset resides, then it may be too small, 
unless it is spread over multiple volumes.

Cheers, 
Paul Gillis

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Hi

Apology for asking a dummy question. Why do we use Distribution library volume 
dataset while taking a SAD for a z/OS ?

Nathan

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Re: Fortran, assembly programmers ... NASA needs you - for Voyager . Job For Shane?

2015-11-02 Thread Paul Gillis
Loved the last sentence, personally I don't know about the current
penetration of Fortran, but how many ancient z/OS shops do not run COBOL.
Apart from those who have PL/1 of course.

"Along with NASA's aging fleet of spacecraft, many businesses still rely on
ancient languages such as Fortran or COBOL for specialized tasks and
critical infrastructure."

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Subject: Fortran, assembly programmers ... NASA needs you - for Voyager .
Job For Shane?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/31/brush_up_on_your_fortran/


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Re: Silent IBM-MAIN?

2015-08-11 Thread Paul Gillis
Nah, I reckon it's 1/n + Six = 7, so your answer is only correct if n = 1.

Not so silent

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 4:48 PM
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Subject: Silent IBM-MAIN?

H, IBM-MAIN is s silent? Or is it dead, moribund, passed out, under 6 
feet soil, finished, knocked-out?

Whats the matter? All and everyone that really busy yesterday or on a well 
deserved holiday?

Or trying to figure out a failsafe/crashproof upgrade to z/OS v2.1? 


Oh, well, here is a mathematical puzzle for you to cheer you up:

(Are you mathematically challenged? ;-D )

Prove that ( 1 + Sin X ) / n = 7

Simple: just cancel out letter n, you get:

( 1 + Si x ) = 7

thus, ( 1 + 6 ) = 7 !!!

Voila! One test fewer to you. ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

2015-07-22 Thread Paul Gillis
Please do not tell me that you are applying maintenance to a running system. 
Because if you are then you have probably just destroyed your IPL volume.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Subject: Library out of space issue while APPLY RSU

Hello Group,
  I am applying RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and encountered
D37-04 and E37-04 for various datasets like

D37-04  SYS1.SASMMOD1  ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
D37-04  SYS1.SISPLOAD   ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
D37-04  SYS1.SGIMLMD0  ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
D37-04  SYS1.NUCLEUS   ---
D37-04  SYS1.LINKLIB   ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA,
E37-04  SYS1.CNMLINK   ---  is used by XCFAS , LLA, NETVIEW


Now, renaming the dataset to .old and then  create new dataset big big size
and then using ISPF option 3.3 for copy,   we have only option left is

1) Unallocate linkist (SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE) and then stop LLA ( P LLA)

2) For CNMLINK dataset, I will have to stop NETVIEW as well along with 
Unallocate linkist (SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE) and then stop LLA ( P LLA)


3) But for NUCLEUS dataset, I will have to bring down alll system in sysplex 
and then do remaining and creating bigger dataet and then copy content using 
ISP 3.3



Do we have any other way to overcome this issue rather then copping LLA and 
XCFAS etc.


Regards
Venkat

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE

2015-07-21 Thread Paul Gillis
RESTORE the usermod
APPLY the PTF
Correct the usermod with PRE(UK81531) and any other logical changes
REEIVE the updated usermod
Apply the usermod

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Subject: RSU APPLY ISSUE

Hello,
  We are installing RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and in apply check process 
we encountered

below issue.

GIM38201E ** THERE IS A MODID ERROR FOR SRC ENTRY ASMADOPT IN SYSMOD UK81531.
GIM31901ISYSMOD UK81531 DOES NOT SPECIFY SP1BAB0 ON THE PRE OR SUP
OPERAND.
 SP1BAB0 IS THE RMID FOR SRC ASMADOPT THAT IS CURRENTLY INSTALLED.
GIM22601IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UK81531.



SP1BAB0  is the user MOD we applied before. Can you please suggest.

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Re: EOJ, literally.

2015-06-28 Thread Paul Gillis
Congratulations Tony,
I see a few of us have accumulated more than 40 years in the trade, but 2 
months shy of 50 years is an impressive achievement. I have less than 5 years 
to catch up, but don't think I will. Enjoy your retirement in good health.
Regards,
Paul Gillis

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Re: Tail of MVS SYSLOG

2014-11-15 Thread Paul Gillis
The ops words were I want to send this data to an external system for 
analysis. So I saw no need for head/tail capability on z/OS. Might be 
roundabout but works fine for me  may work fine for the op. Just another way 
to get the data out of JES2 to where it can be used.

Paul Gillis

 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2014 1:07 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Tail of MVS SYSLOG
 
 On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 23:05:25 +1100, Paul Gillis pgil...@pc-link.com.au
 wrote:
 
 I have used the @BRLOG rexx exec, freely supplied by IBM, to perform
 post IPL analysis on the head of the active syslog. Redbook
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247419.pdf points to
 ftp://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG247419 to  download SG277419.zip
 and @brlog.rex is in the ch06 directory. The Redbook chapter 6 says you can
 direct the output to a dataset or to a path name where you can head/tail the
 SYSLOG data.
 
 Where I see:
 
 If the path name parameter is present, @BRLOG copies all SYSLOG data sets
 to
 a temporary MVS data set and copies using OCOPY to the path that is
 specified.  ...
 
 Kinda roundabout, isn't it?  Why not write directly to the path specified?
 Not indicative of a high degree of craftsmanship.
 
 ...Finally, using the TSO command, OEDIT allows the user to view it. 
 Copying
 the path name does use a Carriage Return/Linefeed (CR/LF) to separate the
 file records.
 
 CRLF!?  Ugh!  Not the z/OS Unix System Services convention.
 
 I see no mention of tail in Chapter 6, much less of tail -f (presuming 
 that
 such dynamic updating was among the OP's objectives).  I doubt that tail -f
 would be effective.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Gilmartin
  Sent: Friday, 14 November 2014 1:56 AM
 
  On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:39:13 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
 
  To Lizette: The word 'tail' is an Unix term where you send the last
  x lines to
  somewhere else. I believe there is also something like 'head' for
  send the first x lines to somewhere else. Generally useful with the pipe
 command.
  
  The OP may be thinking of tail -f fllename, where the -f option
  means to periodically (every few seconds) to extract (stat()) the
  size of the file and send any characters not previously sent (in the
  fashion of SDSF DOWN MAX nn).  The OP may have wanted such
 dynamic updating.
 
 -- gil
 
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Re: Tail of MVS SYSLOG

2014-11-14 Thread Paul Gillis
I have used the @BRLOG rexx exec, freely supplied by IBM, to perform post IPL 
analysis on the head of the active syslog. Redbook 
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247419.pdf points to 
ftp://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG247419 to  download SG277419.zip and 
@brlog.rex is in the ch06 directory. The Redbook chapter 6 says you can direct 
the output to a dataset or to a path name where you can head/tail the SYSLOG 
data.

Paul Gillis

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 Sent: Friday, 14 November 2014 1:56 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Tail of MVS SYSLOG
 
 On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:39:13 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
 
 Kacynski, Walt wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of a way to tail the JES based MVS SYSLOG to an
 external system and/or unix based syslog? I want to send this data to an
 external system for analysis.
 ...
 PRINT ODSN dataset ...
 ...
 Then use ocopy to put it to an unix folder.
 
 I use the SDSF API (Rexx) to IEBGENER directly from spool to a UNIX file.  No
 temp data set needed.  But only from job output; untested for SYSLOG.  Does
 SDSF provide PRINT OUTDD ddname?
 
 To Lizette: The word 'tail' is an Unix term where you send the last x lines 
 to
 somewhere else. I believe there is also something like 'head' for send the 
 first
 x lines to somewhere else. Generally useful with the pipe command.
 
 The OP may be thinking of tail -f fllename, where the -f option means to
 periodically (every few seconds) to extract (stat()) the size of the file 
 and
 send any characters not previously sent (in the fashion of SDSF DOWN MAX
 nn).  The OP may have wanted such dynamic updating.
 
 -- gil
 
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Re: Rexx (was: OT? ... deliberately unfriendly)

2013-11-29 Thread Paul Gillis
I have been using Regina Rexx for some years, started when I was to teach a
Rexx course and wanted a good Windows Rexx capability. The OS interfaces are
different, but easy enough to use, and it is well documented. It can be
found at http://regina-rexx.sourceforge.net/ it is obviously being updated
regularly as I am using 3.5 and 3.7 is available and the price is right.
Sample of I/O code below. Other OS interfaces I have not used, no need yet.

/* Read the file into an array */
INFILE1  = C:\WineBase32\TextFile\WineList.csv
lines = 0
do while lines(infile1)0
   lines = lines + 1
   iline.lines = linein(infile1)
end
iline.0 = lines

Paul

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 Sent: Friday, 29 November 2013 6:02 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Rexx (was: OT? ... deliberately unfriendly)
 
 Gil,
 
 Haven't used Regina , but have used Open Object Rexx and like the Linux
 interface.
 
 Scott ford
 www.identityforge.com
 from my IPAD
 
 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means'
 
 
  On Nov 28, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com
 wrote:
 
  On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 07:41:14 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
 
  http://www.rexxinfo.org/
  http://www.rexxla.org/links/
 
  On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
  deleted
  I miss Rexx in command line for OS/2. I believe there are Rexx for
 windoze, but I haven't looked at it.
  deleted
  Google finds many hits for REGINA CYGWIN.  But any Rexx stands or
  falls on the quality of its host command interfaces.  THE?  Would you
  want a comand interface to Notepad?
 
  I am very pleased with the SYSCALL command environment of Rexx for
  z/OS (called TSO, but I can forgive that).
 
  -- gil
 
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Re: Book Enquiry

2012-10-23 Thread Paul Gillis
 Indeed.
 And given the dearth of opportunities I see advertised and sites disappearing,
 hard to argue.
 The O/S continues being developed, as does the hardware, but the puddle we
 all play in continues to evaporate.
 
 Shane ...

Retirement is just around the corner, as that puddle shrinks. Anyone younger 
than 50 ready to take over for the next few years?

Paul

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Re: useful? XML encoded SMF.

2012-07-25 Thread Paul Gillis
BMC do the SMF to XML in their performance product, that I played with a few 
years ago.
Personally I prefer Barry's solution, as it just does it as is without XML, but 
I am biased having used it for more years than I care to remember.

Paul G...

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
 Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2012 9:10 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: useful? XML encoded SMF.
 
 On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:00:47 +0200, R.S.
 r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
 
 ... ???
 Lol - well, what followed didn't transcribe too well.
 
 Interesting product - some time ago I looked at knocking up some C code to
 ship RMF data from the Distributor down to a Linux client so I could do a poor
 mans RMFIII. Ugly, seriously ugly to get big-endian binary data full of binary
 zeroes down a little-endian client.
 Had a play with Python for the GUI, but it was hard work.
 
 Then IBM announced the were planning on shipping the CIM server (I *did*
 say some time ago). Whoot !!!.
 Time passed, the world changed ...
 
 But there is a lot to be said for a properly constructed XML solution to this
 data -all of it, not just (some of) the RMF records.
 
 As an aside, I was also going to plug Barrys solution (lots of customers like
 that), but he got in first.
 
 Shane ...
 
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