RSU APPLY ISSUE

2015-07-21 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello,
  We are installing RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and in apply check
process we encountered

below issue.

GIM38201E ** THERE IS A MODID ERROR FOR SRC ENTRY ASMADOPT IN SYSMOD
UK81531.
GIM31901ISYSMOD UK81531 DOES NOT SPECIFY SP1BAB0 ON THE PRE OR SUP
OPERAND.
 SP1BAB0 IS THE RMID FOR SRC ASMADOPT THAT IS CURRENTLY
INSTALLED.
GIM22601IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UK81531.



SP1BAB0  is the user MOD we applied before. Can you please suggest.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE

2015-07-21 Thread Paul Gillis
RESTORE the usermod
APPLY the PTF
Correct the usermod with PRE(UK81531) and any other logical changes
REEIVE the updated usermod
Apply the usermod

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Subject: RSU APPLY ISSUE

Hello,
  We are installing RSU on z/OS 1.13 system and in apply check process 
we encountered

below issue.

GIM38201E ** THERE IS A MODID ERROR FOR SRC ENTRY ASMADOPT IN SYSMOD UK81531.
GIM31901ISYSMOD UK81531 DOES NOT SPECIFY SP1BAB0 ON THE PRE OR SUP
OPERAND.
 SP1BAB0 IS THE RMID FOR SRC ASMADOPT THAT IS CURRENTLY INSTALLED.
GIM22601IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UK81531.



SP1BAB0  is the user MOD we applied before. Can you please suggest.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
  I think I found the root cause of this issue.

During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by SYS1.SEDCBASE
on RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -

REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
  DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
  SHR .

When I compared with my old z/OS 1.13 system

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
Volume serial . . . : RES1301
Number of members . : *10,640*

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
Volume serial . . . : RES001
Number of members . : *11,017*

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
Volume serial . . . : RES1301
Number of members . : *751*

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
Volume serial . . . : RES001
Number of members . : *0*

*So, my SYS1.*SEDCBASE is empty and SYS1.SCEELKED is with unwanted data.

Now, the question is, how can I correct this mistake rather then installing
z/OS 2.1 from scratch.

 By mistake these two libraries are messed up now.  FMID HCLB201
belong to C/370
LIBRARY, which we recently installed.
To isolate this issue, I am planning to restore C/370 with having DDDEF(
*SEDCBASE*) pointed to SYS1.*SCEELKED*(ZS21T1).
This should remove all data populated during last apply and should clean
SYS1.

*SCEELKED.  *But the issue is,If we restore SCEELKED from initial tape then
it will reach to initial state and we applied many other FMID and installed
CICS after that.

So, all will be affected. I am working out to find to alternate solution .


On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

 In 031c0cdc-b61c-42f2-a377-97478031b...@comcast.net, on 09/05/2014
at 02:45 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:

 I guess we will have to disagree on what holds can be bypassed.

 What he wrote was You should never (unless told by IBM who probably
 never will)   BYPASS error holds. Dropping the word error changes
 its meaning drastically.

 In summary I think its OK to bypass *SOME* hold errors

 What do you mean by hold errors? The OP is referring to error holds,
 and you have not given a case where it is advisable to bypass an error
 hold. That has nothing to do with bypassing, e.g., DOC.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Jousma, David
On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.

  DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
  ===   
 
  Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for 
  data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E 
  processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.   
  However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
 DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'  
(data set name, maximum 44 characters)   
 INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW) 
 FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG) 
 UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)  
 VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)   
 SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)   
 PRIMARY===   (primary space)   
 SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space) 
 DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)  
 SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
 WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)   
 PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)   
 SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)   
  Press ENTER to save the changes.   
 
 DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE   
 ===  
   
 Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
 data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
 processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.  
 However, no parenthesis can be entered.   
   
DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED' 
   (data set name, maximum 44 characters)  
INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged) 
VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)  
SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)  
PRIMARY===   (primary space)  
SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
DIR===   (Number of directory blocks) 
SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)   
WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)  
PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)  
SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)  
 Press ENTER to save the changes.   
   

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1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mainframe Mainframe
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

  I think I found the root cause of this issue.

During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by SYS1.SEDCBASE on 
RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -

REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
  DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
  SHR .

When I compared with my old z/OS 1.13 system

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
Volume serial . . . : RES1301
Number of members . : *10,640*

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
Volume serial . . . : RES001
Number of members . : *11,017*

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
Volume serial . . . : RES1301
Number of members . : *751*

Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
Volume serial . . . : RES001
Number of members . : *0*

*So, my SYS1.*SEDCBASE is empty and SYS1.SCEELKED is with unwanted data.

Now, the question is, how can I correct this mistake rather then installing 
z/OS 2.1 from scratch.

 By mistake these two

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Staller, Allan
I would not even try to repair the situation. Bite the bullet and re-install.

snip
  I think I found the root cause of this issue.

During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by SYS1.SEDCBASE on 
RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -

REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
  DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
  SHR .

***snippage

*So, my SYS1.*SEDCBASE is empty and SYS1.SCEELKED is with unwanted data.

Now, the question is, how can I correct this mistake rather then installing 
z/OS 2.1 from scratch.
/snip


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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
Hello David,
How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point to
SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.

   DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
   ===

   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
   data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
   processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.

  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
  FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
  UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
  VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
  SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
  PRIMARY===   (primary space)
  SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
  DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
  SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
  WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
  PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
  SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
   Press ENTER to save the changes.

  DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE
  ===

  Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
  data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
  processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
  However, no parenthesis can be entered.

 DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
(data set name, maximum 44 characters)
 INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
 FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
 UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
 VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
 SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
 PRIMARY===   (primary space)
 SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
 DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
 SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
 WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
 PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
 SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
  Press ENTER to save the changes.

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
 david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
 p 616.653.8429
 f 616.653.2717


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

   I think I found the root cause of this issue.

 During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by SYS1.SEDCBASE
 on RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -

 REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
   DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
   SHR .

 When I compared with my old z/OS 1.13 system

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
 Volume serial . . . : RES1301
 Number of members . : *10,640*

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
 Volume serial . . . : RES001
 Number of members . : *11,017*

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
 Volume serial . . . : RES1301
 Number of members . : *751*

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
 Volume serial . . . : RES001
 Number of members . : *0*

 *So, my SYS1.*SEDCBASE is empty and SYS1.SCEELKED is with unwanted data.

 Now, the question is, how can I correct this mistake rather then
 installing z/OS 2.1 from scratch.

  By mistake these two libraries are messed up now.  FMID HCLB201 belong to
 C/370 LIBRARY, which we recently installed.
 To isolate this issue, I am planning to restore C/370 with having DDDEF(
 *SEDCBASE*) pointed to SYS1.*SCEELKED*(ZS21T1).
 This should remove all data populated during last apply and should clean
 SYS1.

 *SCEELKED.  *But the issue is,If we restore SCEELKED from initial tape
 then it will reach to initial state and we applied many other FMID and
 installed CICS after that.

 So, all will be affected. I am working out to find to alternate solution .


 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
 shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:

  In 031c0cdc-b61c-42f2-a377-97478031b...@comcast.net, on 09/05/2014
 at 02:45 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
 
  I guess we will have to disagree on what holds can be bypassed.
 
  What he wrote was You should never (unless told by IBM who probably
  never will)   BYPASS error holds. Dropping the word error changes
  its meaning drastically.
 
  In summary I think its OK to bypass *SOME* hold errors
 
  What do you mean by hold errors? The OP is referring to error holds,
  and you have not given a case where

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Jousma, David
It came from Serverpac that way.  I did not modify it.

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Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.2717



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mainframe Mainframe
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

Hello David,
How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point to 
SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.

   DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
   ===

   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
   data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
   processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.

  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
  FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
  UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
  VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
  SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
  PRIMARY===   (primary space)
  SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
  DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
  SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
  WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
  PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
  SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
   Press ENTER to save the changes.

  DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===

  Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets to 
 be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must 
 conform to JCL conventions.
  However, no parenthesis can be entered.

 DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
(data set name, maximum 44 characters)
 INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
 FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
 UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
 VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
 SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
 PRIMARY===   (primary space)
 SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
 DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
 SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
 WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
 PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
 SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
  Press ENTER to save the changes.

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 
 616.653.2717


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

   I think I found the root cause of this issue.

 During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by 
 SYS1.SEDCBASE on RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -

 REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
   DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
   SHR .

 When I compared with my old z/OS 1.13 system

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
 Volume serial . . . : RES1301
 Number of members . : *10,640*

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
 Volume serial . . . : RES001
 Number of members . : *11,017*

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
 Volume serial . . . : RES1301
 Number of members . : *751*

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
 Volume serial . . . : RES001
 Number of members . : *0*

 *So, my SYS1.*SEDCBASE is empty and SYS1.SCEELKED is with unwanted data.

 Now, the question is, how can I correct this mistake rather then 
 installing z/OS 2.1 from scratch.

  By mistake these two libraries are messed up now.  FMID HCLB201 
 belong to
 C/370 LIBRARY, which we recently installed.
 To isolate this issue, I am planning to restore C/370 with having 
 DDDEF(
 *SEDCBASE*) pointed to SYS1.*SCEELKED*(ZS21T1).
 This should remove all data populated during last apply and should 
 clean SYS1.

 *SCEELKED.  *But the issue is,If we restore SCEELKED from initial tape 
 then it will reach to initial state and we applied many other FMID and 
 installed CICS after that.

 So, all will be affected. I am working out to find to alternate solution .


 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
 shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Jousma, David
Here is the output from the Serverpac installation job that updates the DDDEFS

¢¢¢
 BROWSESMPE.OS210254.SCPPOENU(JOB24465) 
 Command ===   

   REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)  
   DA(CEE.SCEELKED) 
   VOLUME(RSM02A)   
   UNIT(3390)   
   WAITFORDSN   
   SHR .
 GIM56501ITHE UNIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT DID NOT
  EXIST.
 GIM56501ITHE WAIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT DID NOT

_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.2717



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mainframe Mainframe
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

Hello David,
How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point to 
SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.

   DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
   ===

   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
   data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
   processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.

  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
  FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
  UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
  VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
  SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
  PRIMARY===   (primary space)
  SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
  DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
  SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
  WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
  PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
  SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
   Press ENTER to save the changes.

  DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===

  Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets to 
 be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must 
 conform to JCL conventions.
  However, no parenthesis can be entered.

 DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
(data set name, maximum 44 characters)
 INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
 FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
 UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
 VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
 SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
 PRIMARY===   (primary space)
 SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
 DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
 SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
 WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
 PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
 SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
  Press ENTER to save the changes.

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 
 616.653.2717


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

   I think I found the root cause of this issue.

 During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by 
 SYS1.SEDCBASE on RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -

 REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
   DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
   SHR .

 When I compared with my old z/OS 1.13 system

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
 Volume serial . . . : RES1301
 Number of members . : *10,640*

 Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
 Volume serial . . . : RES001

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
Does it mean that your SYS1.SEDBASE  or CEE.SEDBASE  target dataset is
empty. This dataset gets defined when you install C/370 library. Can you
please check once.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 Here is the output from the Serverpac installation job that updates the
 DDDEFS


 ¢¢¢
  BROWSESMPE.OS210254.SCPPOENU(JOB24465)
  Command ===

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
VOLUME(RSM02A)
UNIT(3390)
WAITFORDSN
SHR .
  GIM56501ITHE UNIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT
   EXIST.
  GIM56501ITHE WAIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
 david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
 p 616.653.8429
 f 616.653.2717



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

 Hello David,
 How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point to
 SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

  On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.
 
DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
===
 
Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
   DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
  (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
   INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
   FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
   UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
   VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
   SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
   PRIMARY===   (primary space)
   SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
   DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
   SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
   WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
   PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
   SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
   DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===
 
   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets to
  be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must
  conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
  FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
  UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
  VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
  SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
  PRIMARY===   (primary space)
  SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
  DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
  SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
  WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
  PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
  SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
   Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
  _
  Dave Jousma
  Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
  1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f
  616.653.2717
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:28 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
I think I found the root cause of this issue.
 
  During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by
  SYS1.SEDCBASE on RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -
 
  REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
SHR .
 
  When I compared with my old z/OS 1.13 system
 
  Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
  Volume serial . . . : RES1301
  Number of members . : *10,640*
 
  Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED
  Volume serial . . . : RES001
  Number of members . : *11,017*
 
  Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
  Volume serial . . . : RES1301
  Number of members . : *751*
 
  Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SEDCBASE
  Volume serial . . . : RES001
  Number of members . : *0*
 
  *So

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
I also noticed one more thing is


 I could find backup earlier backup of my RES volume, which I took before
applying HCLB201 and this looks to be good. I run Job AMBLIST
 I Basically restored SYS1.SCEELKED from from backup and placed in
different HQL dataset to cross verify the issue.


Now Bit 15 show REFR in older backup.




PUT=XREF   00060001
M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y  *
MAIN ENTRY POINT:

AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT:
31
 AMODE
   31
   31
---
IBUTES OF MODULE   
BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS   **
 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY 3  NOT-TEST
 5  BLOCK6  EXEC 7  1-TXT
 9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO  11 NO-RLD
 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL  *15 REFR*


But After this FMID HCLB201 applied, all backups have same issue.This is
making me to think more that why its all happening .




and both have same issue as earlier.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Mainframe Mainframe mainframe1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Does it mean that your SYS1.SEDBASE  or CEE.SEDBASE  target dataset is
 empty. This dataset gets defined when you install C/370 library. Can you
 please check once.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 Here is the output from the Serverpac installation job that updates the
 DDDEFS


 ¢¢¢
  BROWSESMPE.OS210254.SCPPOENU(JOB24465)
  Command ===

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
VOLUME(RSM02A)
UNIT(3390)
WAITFORDSN
SHR .
  GIM56501ITHE UNIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT
   EXIST.
  GIM56501ITHE WAIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
 david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
 p 616.653.8429
 f 616.653.2717



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

 Hello David,
 How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point to
 SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com
 wrote:

  On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.
 
DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
===
 
Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
   DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
  (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
   INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
   FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
   UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
   VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
   SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
   PRIMARY===   (primary space)
   SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
   DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
   SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
   WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
   PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
   SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
   DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===
 
   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets to
  be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must
  conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
  FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
  UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
  VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
  SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
  PRIMARY===   (primary space)
  SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
  DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
  SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
  WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
  PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
  SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
   Press ENTER to save

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Pommier, Rex
Isn't the C library and compiler shipped and installed with all serverpacs?  It 
just isn't activated until you do so in IFAPRDxx?

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mainframe Mainframe
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

Does it mean that your SYS1.SEDBASE  or CEE.SEDBASE  target dataset is
empty. This dataset gets defined when you install C/370 library. Can you
please check once.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 Here is the output from the Serverpac installation job that updates the
 DDDEFS


 ¢¢¢
  BROWSESMPE.OS210254.SCPPOENU(JOB24465)
  Command ===

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
VOLUME(RSM02A)
UNIT(3390)
WAITFORDSN
SHR .
  GIM56501ITHE UNIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT
   EXIST.
  GIM56501ITHE WAIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
 david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
 p 616.653.8429
 f 616.653.2717



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

 Hello David,
 How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point to
 SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

  On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.
 
DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
===
 
Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
   DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
  (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
   INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
   FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
   UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
   VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
   SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
   PRIMARY===   (primary space)
   SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
   DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
   SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
   WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
   PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
   SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
   DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===
 
   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets to
  be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must
  conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
  FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
  UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
  VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
  SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
  PRIMARY===   (primary space)
  SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
  DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
  SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
  WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
  PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
  SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
   Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
  _
  Dave Jousma
  Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
  1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f
  616.653.2717
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:28 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
I think I found the root cause of this issue.
 
  During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by
  SYS1.SEDCBASE on RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -
 
  REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE*)
DA(Z21.SYS1.*SCEELKED*)
SHR .
 
  When I compared with my old z/OS 1.13 system
 
  Data Set Name  . . . : SYS1.SCEELKED

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Jousma, David
There is no SEDCBASE file on my system.

_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.2717



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mainframe Mainframe
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

Does it mean that your SYS1.SEDBASE  or CEE.SEDBASE  target dataset is empty. 
This dataset gets defined when you install C/370 library. Can you please check 
once.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 Here is the output from the Serverpac installation job that updates 
 the DDDEFS


 ¢¢¢
  BROWSESMPE.OS210254.SCPPOENU(JOB24465)
  Command ===

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
VOLUME(RSM02A)
UNIT(3390)
WAITFORDSN
SHR .
  GIM56501ITHE UNIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT
   EXIST.
  GIM56501ITHE WAIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 
 616.653.2717



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

 Hello David,
 How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point 
 to SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

  On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.
 
DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
===
 
Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
   DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
  (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
   INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
   FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
   UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
   VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
   SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
   PRIMARY===   (primary space)
   SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
   DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
   SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
   WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
   PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
   SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
   DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===
 
   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets 
  to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must 
  conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
  FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
  UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
  VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
  SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
  PRIMARY===   (primary space)
  SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
  DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
  SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
  WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
  PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
  SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
   Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
  _
  Dave Jousma
  Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
  1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f
  616.653.2717
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:28 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
I think I found the root cause of this issue.
 
  During z/OS 2.1 installtion SYS1.SCEELKED was overwritten by 
  SYS1.SEDCBASE on RES001 because the DDDEF entry references it -
 
  REP DDDEF(*SEDCBASE

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
THanks .But my initial serverpac came without C/370 product and we
installed like below

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
   DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
   VOLUME(RES001)
   UNIT(3390)
   WAITFORDSN
   SHR .

But later when I received CBPDO from from IBM for C/370, it allocated
SEDBASE dataset but as DDDEF was pointing to SCEELKED, so data related to
this FMID went to SCEELKED and SEDBASE is empty for me .



On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 There is no SEDCBASE file on my system.

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
 david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
 p 616.653.8429
 f 616.653.2717



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:37 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

 Does it mean that your SYS1.SEDBASE  or CEE.SEDBASE  target dataset is
 empty. This dataset gets defined when you install C/370 library. Can you
 please check once.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

  Here is the output from the Serverpac installation job that updates
  the DDDEFS
 
 
 
 ¢¢¢
   BROWSESMPE.OS210254.SCPPOENU(JOB24465)
   Command ===
 
 REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
 DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
 VOLUME(RSM02A)
 UNIT(3390)
 WAITFORDSN
 SHR .
   GIM56501ITHE UNIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
  DID NOT
EXIST.
   GIM56501ITHE WAIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
  DID NOT
 
  _
  Dave Jousma
  Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com
  1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f
  616.653.2717
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
  Hello David,
  How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point
  to SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.
 
  On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com
 wrote:
 
   On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.
  
 DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
 ===
  
 Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
 data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
 processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
 However, no parenthesis can be entered.
  
DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
   (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
PRIMARY===   (primary space)
SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
 Press ENTER to save the changes.
  
DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===
  
Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets
   to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must
   conform to JCL conventions.
However, no parenthesis can be entered.
  
   DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
  (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
   INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
   FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
   UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
   VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
   SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
   PRIMARY===   (primary space)
   SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
   DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
   SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
   WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
   PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
   SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
Press ENTER to save the changes.
  
   _
   Dave Jousma
   Assistant Vice

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Pommier, Rex
HCLB201 appears to be C/370 version 2.2 from 1999.  Is there a specific reason 
you're installing what appears to be a very old C?  If you need this old 
version of C for some reason, you may need to build a completely separate SMP/E 
environment to install it.  I think your problem may be that you are installing 
an old C on top of the one that IBM ships with z/OS as part of the ServerPac.  

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Mainframe Mainframe
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

I also noticed one more thing is


 I could find backup earlier backup of my RES volume, which I took before
applying HCLB201 and this looks to be good. I run Job AMBLIST
 I Basically restored SYS1.SCEELKED from from backup and placed in
different HQL dataset to cross verify the issue.


Now Bit 15 show REFR in older backup.




PUT=XREF   00060001
M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y  *
MAIN ENTRY POINT:

AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT:
31
 AMODE
   31
   31
---
IBUTES OF MODULE   
BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS   **
 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY 3  NOT-TEST
 5  BLOCK6  EXEC 7  1-TXT
 9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO  11 NO-RLD
 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL  *15 REFR*


But After this FMID HCLB201 applied, all backups have same issue.This is
making me to think more that why its all happening .




and both have same issue as earlier.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Mainframe Mainframe mainframe1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Does it mean that your SYS1.SEDBASE  or CEE.SEDBASE  target dataset is
 empty. This dataset gets defined when you install C/370 library. Can you
 please check once.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:

 Here is the output from the Serverpac installation job that updates the
 DDDEFS


 ¢¢¢
  BROWSESMPE.OS210254.SCPPOENU(JOB24465)
  Command ===

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
VOLUME(RSM02A)
UNIT(3390)
WAITFORDSN
SHR .
  GIM56501ITHE UNIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT
   EXIST.
  GIM56501ITHE WAIT SUBENTRY WAS ADDED INSTEAD OF REPLACED BECAUSE IT
 DID NOT

 _
 Dave Jousma
 Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
 david.jou...@53.com
 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H
 p 616.653.8429
 f 616.653.2717



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:20 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

 Hello David,
 How can SEDBASE DDDEF can point to SCEELKED library. It should point to
 SYS1.SCEELKED target library. But still not sure.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com
 wrote:

  On my 1.13 system that is how mine is, not sure that is your problem.
 
DDDEF ENTRY SEDCBASE - LIBRARY TYPE
===
 
Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for
data sets to be dynamically allocated during SMP/E
processing.  Values must conform to JCL conventions.
However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
   DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
  (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
   INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW)
   FINAL DISP ===   (KEEP,DELETE,CATALOG)
   UNIT   === 3390  (unit type if not cataloged)
   VOLUME === RSM02A(volume serial)
   SPACE UNITS===   (TRK, CYL, or block length)
   PRIMARY===   (primary space)
   SECONDARY  ===   (secondary space)
   DIR===   (Number of directory blocks)
   SYSOUT ===   (SYSOUT class)
   WAITFORDSN === YES   (YES or NO)
   PROTECT=== NO(YES or NO)
   SMS OPTIONS=== NO(YES or NO to edit SMS Options)
Press ENTER to save the changes.
 
   DDDEF ENTRY SCEELKED - LIBRARY TYPE  ===
 
   Enter Library DDDEF data to allocate DD statements for  data sets to
  be dynamically allocated during SMP/E  processing.  Values must
  conform to JCL conventions.
   However, no parenthesis can be entered.
 
  DATA SET NAME  === 'CEE.SCEELKED'
 (data set name, maximum 44 characters)
  INITIAL DISP   === SHR   (OLD,SHR,MOD,NEW

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Greg Shirey
I don't know if this helps, but APAR OW36048 contains the following 
information: 

If you found incorrect data set names for any DDDEFs in
   your primary target zone and have already installed
   maintenance on the new system, IBM recommends that you run
   the SMP/E REPORT CALLLIBS command against this zone now.
   Then run the CALLLINK job generated by SMP/E.  This will
   ensure that load modules containing external references are
   link-edited correctly on your system.  

This APAR was closed in 1998, but may still be applicable.   By the way, it 
specifically notes that if your serverpac order did not have C/370 that the 
DDDEF for SEDCBASE would be directed to CEE.SCEELKED.  I've never run CALLLIBS 
or CALLLINK, so I don’t know what they do, so proceed with caution. 

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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THanks .But my initial serverpac came without C/370 product and we installed 
like below

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
   DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
   VOLUME(RES001)
   UNIT(3390)
   WAITFORDSN
   SHR .

But later when I received CBPDO from from IBM for C/370, it allocated SEDBASE 
dataset but as DDDEF was pointing to SCEELKED, so data related to this FMID 
went to SCEELKED and SEDBASE is empty for me .



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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-09 Thread Jousma, David
Yea, I saw that same APAR.   At this point we are all guessing, but it seems 
like maybe he tried to apply the native c/370 FMID ontop of serverpac.At 
this point, I think the best advice would be for the OP to open a PMR with IBM 
on how to proceed.   I was honestly surprised that the C/370 compiler has not 
been sunsetted yet.   

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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:01 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

I don't know if this helps, but APAR OW36048 contains the following 
information: 

If you found incorrect data set names for any DDDEFs in
   your primary target zone and have already installed
   maintenance on the new system, IBM recommends that you run
   the SMP/E REPORT CALLLIBS command against this zone now.
   Then run the CALLLINK job generated by SMP/E.  This will
   ensure that load modules containing external references are
   link-edited correctly on your system.  

This APAR was closed in 1998, but may still be applicable.   By the way, it 
specifically notes that if your serverpac order did not have C/370 that the 
DDDEF for SEDCBASE would be directed to CEE.SCEELKED.  I've never run CALLLIBS 
or CALLLINK, so I don’t know what they do, so proceed with caution. 

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company


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Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

THanks .But my initial serverpac came without C/370 product and we installed 
like below

REP DDDEF(SEDCBASE)
   DA(CEE.SCEELKED)
   VOLUME(RES001)
   UNIT(3390)
   WAITFORDSN
   SHR .

But later when I received CBPDO from from IBM for C/370, it allocated SEDBASE 
dataset but as DDDEF was pointing to SCEELKED, so data related to this FMID 
went to SCEELKED and SEDBASE is empty for me .



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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-08 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/07/2014 06:17 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
 In 031c0cdc-b61c-42f2-a377-97478031b...@comcast.net, on 09/05/2014
at 02:45 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:

 I guess we will have to disagree on what holds can be bypassed.
 What he wrote was You should never (unless told by IBM who probably
 never will)   BYPASS error holds. Dropping the word error changes
 its meaning drastically.

 In summary I think its OK to bypass *SOME* hold errors
 What do you mean by hold errors? The OP is referring to error holds,
 and you have not given a case where it is advisable to bypass an error
 hold. That has nothing to do with bypassing, e.g., DOC.
  
There were rare occasions where we bypassed a specific ERROR hold:

* where we had a known exposure to a problem which had actually affected
our production system adversely and the only available resolving PTF
also had an ERROR hold, but its potential error was less of an exposure
than the other problem fixed by the PTF in error.

* where the ERROR hold sounded like an issue that didn't apply to us and
prevented ACCEPT of maintenance prior to a new round of maintenance,
where the PTF now in error had been APPLYed and running in production
without problems for many months and some error hold  had been issued
after the previous round of maintenance.  In this case we had empirical
evidence the ERROR was not a serious exposure for us and we preferred to
expend our resources to moving and testing a new maintenance level
rather than resolving a non-issue.  It made sense to get the
distribution libraries to a level that would allow a potential RESTORE
to return to a level that had successfully run without failure in our
environment, even if IBM now regarded one of those modules in error.

But, bypassing an arbitrary ERROR HOLD without understanding the APAR
involved or its implications for your installation is always a bad idea.

-- 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 031c0cdc-b61c-42f2-a377-97478031b...@comcast.net, on 09/05/2014
   at 02:45 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:

I guess we will have to disagree on what holds can be bypassed.

What he wrote was You should never (unless told by IBM who probably
never will)   BYPASS error holds. Dropping the word error changes
its meaning drastically.

In summary I think its OK to bypass *SOME* hold errors

What do you mean by hold errors? The OP is referring to error holds,
and you have not given a case where it is advisable to bypass an error
hold. That has nothing to do with bypassing, e.g., DOC.
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
The target and distribution libraries are not mirrors of each other.

The target libraries could have modules different than the distribution.

Will your management allow you to find a class on SMP/E?  If so, that could 
help.

You can open a PMR to a vendor so long as the product is still supported.  You 
do not need to hesitate.  And sometimes you can get a faster resolution but 
opening a problem ticket to them.

As one of my coworkers likes to point out - we pay them for support, why not 
use it when needed?

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 4:58 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
Yes. I do agree that in my z/OS 2.1 system  @@CBL2C with an alias 
 of
 EDCCBL2C  but in my z/OS 1.13 and other system is part of EDC4$006 and it is
 RF RN RU. But I am not able to understand how this is causing this problem 
 and is
 there any way to solve before I take further step to raise PMR.
 
 
 
 On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Mainframe Mainframe
 mainframe1...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  In distribution Library...
 
  ZOS21D.AEDCMOD1
 
  @@CBL2C EDC4$006RF RN RU
  EDC@@248EDC4$09ERF RN RU
  EDC4$09DRF RN RU
 
 
  In my Target library, EDC@@248 is a module or not an alias of another
  module.
  EDC@@248   RN RU
 
 
 
 
 
  On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  On Sep 5, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:
 
  -SNIP
 
 
  Not refreshable. That's what the Binder told you. You need to find
  out why.
  You may need to contact IBM.
 
 
  Tom,
 
  I agree. the module somehow got linked incorrectly either from the
  last PTF that hit it or it got linked outside of SMPE.
  What the author should do is look at what the last PTF that hit the
  module and see what the link parms were. There may have been a PTF
  that did it by mistake and no ones caught it untillthe PTF that was
  going on was caught. In either case make sure through SMPE what the
  last PTF went on and look at retain to see if it was in error and do
  the research on previous PTF's to see eho caused the problem and open
  a PMR if everything is Kosher.
 
  Ed
 

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
I was getting errors while doing apply check for these HOLDERROR, so, I
used by pass to move ahead for apply.Is there any issues you see in this.

Do you suggest to change acceptable value for CEEPLPKA or any other clue.


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
wrote:

 There were two things in the job run I was able to see.  Let me know if
 this might be part of the issue

 First - should you code BYPASS(HOLDS(...) HOLDE(...) )??  I always thought
 you should let HOLDERROR alone unless you have a fixing PTF from IBM.
 Though I could be wrong.


 BYPASS(HOLDSYS(DOC,IPL,RESTART,ACTION,ENH,DEP,AO,MSGSKEL,MULTSYS,
DYNACT,EC,DB2BIND,EXIT,DELETE,DDDEF)
 HOLDERROR(AA45207,AA45706,AA45113,AA44153,AA45166,AA44844,AA45744))

 Second
  IEW2322I 1220  923NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX
 ACCEPTABLE RC=00
  IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEARLU UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
  IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEBLLST UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
  IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL STRFTIME UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
  IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL LOCALECO UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.


 I think the fact that CEEPLPKA sets max cc as 0 is the issue for UI18451

 Let me know if I am closer to the resolution.

 Lizette



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  Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:46 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
  On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:55:32 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:
 
  I see some more warning message before this error message like ...
   GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA72482 WAS
  SUCCESSFUL FOR
  MODULE
CBRICMMN IN LMOD CBRINIT0 IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE
  RETURN CODE
WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:21 - SEQUENCE NUMBER
  87
SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
   ...
  
  That's from SMPOUT, not Binder SYSPRINT.  Are you viewing your output
 with
  SDSF?  If so, open the job with ? rather than S and go directly to
 SMP00040 (I
  believe (E)JES has a similar feature, perhaps different syntax).  Try
 FIND
  p'IEWW' (IIRC correctly the ISPF syntax -- help!?)
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
  
   On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:13:31 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:
  
   Hello Rob,
 In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.
   
   Binder SYSPRINT (perhaps in your case SMP00030) should tell you:
  
  Oops!  I meant SMP00040.
 
   o The maximum RC specified on the NAME statement (IIRC, SMP/E
 converts that to a comment).
  
   o The actual return code from the bind operation (look near the
 bottom).
  
   o Message codes, , of Warning severity.  Search backward for
 IEWW.
 
  --gil
 

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
You should never (unless told by IBM who probably never will) BYPASS error 
holds. They have the hold because they are in error. The error could be minor 
or it could crash your entire system.

Use EXCLUDE of the PTF with the error if you wish to get a successful APPLY. 
INMO. you shouldn't be APPLY without having achieved a successful APLYCHECK 
run, but other here just run and let the PTFs with error holds fail. 

But, either way, intentionally putting broken software on your system is not a 
good practice.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:07 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 I was getting errors while doing apply check for these HOLDERROR, so, I
 used by pass to move ahead for apply.Is there any issues you see in
 this.
 
 Do you suggest to change acceptable value for CEEPLPKA or any other
 clue.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Lizette Koehler
 stars...@mindspring.com
 wrote:
 
  There were two things in the job run I was able to see.  Let me know
  if this might be part of the issue
 
  First - should you code BYPASS(HOLDS(...) HOLDE(...) )??  I always
  thought you should let HOLDERROR alone unless you have a fixing PTF
 from IBM.
  Though I could be wrong.
 
 
  BYPASS(HOLDSYS(DOC,IPL,RESTART,ACTION,ENH,DEP,AO,MSGSKEL,MULTSYS,
 DYNACT,EC,DB2BIND,EXIT,DELETE,DDDEF)
 
  HOLDERROR(AA45207,AA45706,AA45113,AA44153,AA45166,AA44844,AA45744))
 
  Second
   IEW2322I 1220  923NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX
  ACCEPTABLE RC=00
   IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEARLU UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)
 SPECIFIED.
   IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEBLLST UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)
 SPECIFIED.
   IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL STRFTIME UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)
 SPECIFIED.
   IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL LOCALECO UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)
 SPECIFIED.
 
 
  I think the fact that CEEPLPKA sets max cc as 0 is the issue for
  UI18451
 
  Let me know if I am closer to the resolution.
 
  Lizette
 
 
 
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   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
   [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
   Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:46 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
   Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
  
   On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:55:32 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:
  
   I see some more warning message before this error message like ...
GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA72482 WAS
   SUCCESSFUL FOR
   MODULE
 CBRICMMN IN LMOD CBRINIT0 IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE
   RETURN CODE
 WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:21 - SEQUENCE
 NUMBER
   87
 SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
...
   
   That's from SMPOUT, not Binder SYSPRINT.  Are you viewing your
   output
  with
   SDSF?  If so, open the job with ? rather than S and go directly
   to
  SMP00040 (I
   believe (E)JES has a similar feature, perhaps different syntax).
   Try
  FIND
   p'IEWW' (IIRC correctly the ISPF syntax -- help!?)
  
  
   On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
   
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:13:31 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:
   
Hello Rob,
  In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.

Binder SYSPRINT (perhaps in your case SMP00030) should tell you:
   
   Oops!  I meant SMP00040.
  
o The maximum RC specified on the NAME statement (IIRC, SMP/E
  converts that to a comment).
   
o The actual return code from the bind operation (look near the
  bottom).
   
o Message codes, , of Warning severity.  Search backward for
  IEWW.
  
   --gil
  
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Doug Henry
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 09:18:39 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe 
mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote:

Below Output,

 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
00060001
  *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y  *
MEMBER NAME:  EDC@@248
LIBRARY:  SCEELKED
** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE
   ** STRXFRM   31

     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE   
**   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS
  0  RENT 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY
  4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
  8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO
  12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL

MODULE SSI:NONE
APFCODE:   
RMODE: ANY
LONGPARM:  NO

This output is incomplete as you cut off the part to the right of bits 2,6,10 
and 14 (that part that is cut of shows bits 3,7,11, and 15.)

Doug

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
Sorry, Please find correct output.

1 J E S 2  J O B  L O G  --  S Y S T E M  M V S 9  --
 N O D E  J E S S U P
0
 20.47.06 JOB00311  THURSDAY,  04 SEP 2014 
 20.47.06 JOB00311  IRR010I  USERID DEVP001  IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB.
 20.47.06 JOB00311  ICH70001I DEVP001  LAST ACCESS AT 20:31:59 ON THURSDAY,
SEPTEMBER 4, 2014
 20.47.06 JOB00311  $HASP373 AMBLIST  STARTED - INIT BASE - CLASS A
 - SYS MVS9
 20.47.06 JOB00311  IEF403I AMBLIST - STARTED - TIME=20.47.06
 20.47.07 JOB00311  -  -TIMINGS
(MINS.)--  -PAGING COUNTS
 20.47.07 JOB00311  -STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC   EXCP   CONN   TCB
SRB  CLOCK  SERV  WORKLOAD  PAGE  SWAP   VIO SWAPS
 20.47.07 JOB00311  -LIST 00   1966292   .00
.00 .0 16719  SYSTEM   0 0 0 0
 20.47.07 JOB00311  IEF404I AMBLIST - ENDED - TIME=20.47.07
 20.47.07 JOB00311  -AMBLIST  ENDED.  NAME- TOTAL TCB
CPU TIME=  .00 TOTAL ELAPSED TIME=.0
 20.47.07 JOB00311  $HASP395 AMBLIST  ENDED
0-- JES2 JOB STATISTICS --
-  04 SEP 2014 JOB EXECUTION DATE
-6 CARDS READ
-   78 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS
-0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS
-5 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES
- 0.01 MINUTES EXECUTION TIME
 1 //AMBLIST  JOB 'MAINFRAME',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,NOTIFY=SYSUID
   JOB00311
   IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL -
'MAINFRAME',CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,NOTIFY=DEVP001
 2 //LIST EXEC PGM=AMBLIST
00020001
 3 //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
00030001
 4 //SCEELKED DD
 DSN=SYS1.SCEELKED,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=RES001,UNIT=3390  00040001
 5 //SYSINDD  *
   00050001
 ICH70001I DEVP001  LAST ACCESS AT 20:31:59 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2014
 IEF236I ALLOC. FOR AMBLIST LIST
 IEF237I JES2 ALLOCATED TO SYSPRINT
 IEF237I 376A ALLOCATED TO SCEELKED
 IEF237I JES2 ALLOCATED TO SYSIN
 IEF142I AMBLIST LIST - STEP WAS EXECUTED - COND CODE 
 IEF285I   DEVP001.AMBLIST.JOB00311.D102.?  SYSOUT
 IEF285I   SYS1.SCEELKEDKEPT
 IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= RES001.
 IEF285I   DEVP001.AMBLIST.JOB00311.D101.?  SYSIN
 IEF373I STEP/LIST/START 2014247.2047
 IEF032I STEP/LIST/STOP  2014247.2047
 CPU: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.02 SECSRB: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.01
SEC
 VIRT:  4096K  SYS:   308K  EXT:4K  SYS:11800K
 ATB- REAL:12K  SLOTS: 0K
  VIRT- ALLOC:   2M SHRD:   0M
 IEF375I  JOB/AMBLIST /START 2014247.2047
 IEF033I  JOB/AMBLIST /STOP  2014247.2047
 CPU: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.02 SECSRB: 0 HR  00 MIN  00.01
SEC
1 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
00060001
1  *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y  *
0MEMBER NAME:  EDC@@248
  MAIN ENTRY POINT:
0LIBRARY:  SCEELKED
  AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT: 31
0** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE
** STRXFRM   31
-
0     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE   
0**   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS
  BIT  STATUS   **
0  0  RENT 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY
3  NOT-TEST
   4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
7  1-TXT
   8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO
   11 NO-RLD
   12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL
   15 NOT-REFR
0
-MODULE SSI:NONE
 APFCODE:   
 RMODE: ANY
 LONGPARM:  NO


0   *LOAD MODULE PROCESSED EITHER BY VS LINKAGE EDITOR
OR BINDER
1 NUMERICAL MAP AND CROSS-REFERENCE LIST OF
LOAD MODULE EDC@@248PAGE 0001

- CONTROL SECTION
 ENTRY
   LMOD LOC NAME  LENGTH  TYPE
 LMOD LOC  CSECT LOC  NAME
0   00STRXFRM 0A   SD
0LENGTH OF LOAD MODULE  10
1ALPHABETICAL MAP OF LOAD MODULE
EDC@@248   PAGE 0002

-   CONTROL SECTIONENTRY
NAME LMOD LOC   LENGTH  TYPE  NAME
   LMOD LOC  CSECT LOC  CSECT NAME
0 STRXFRM 000A   SD
-**END OF MAP AND CROSS-REFERENCE LISTING




Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 11:36:46 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:

I was getting errors while doing apply check for these HOLDERROR, 

It is not essential to have RC=0 from an APPLY. RC=4 is usually ok, but you do 
need to ascertain the reasons for it. PTFs that do not apply because there is 
an 
ERROR hold is not a problem, unless those PTFs are critical for your system. 
There has to be a specific problem that you have with your system.

so, I
used by pass to move ahead for apply.

IF you have researched the APARs for these error holds,

And IF you have determined that the PTF(s) that are held resolve a problem that 
you have been experiencing,

And IF you have decided that the problem that you have that is corrected by the 
PTFs is more critical in your environment than the problems described by the 
APARs,

Then, and only then, does it make sense to bypass the errors.

Is there any issues you see in this.

Yes. BYPASS(HOLDERROR(...)) tells SMP/E to introduce new errors to your system. 
Don't do it unless you REALLY know what you are doing. 

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 19:21:41 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe 
mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry, Please find correct output.
...
0     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE   
0**   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS
  BIT  STATUS   **
0  0  RENT 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY
3  NOT-TEST
   4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
7  1-TXT
   8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO
   11 NO-RLD
   12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL
   15 NOT-REFR

Not refreshable. That's what the Binder told you. You need to find out why.
You may need to contact IBM.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:

Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it to be a 0 
max cc.

So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it works.

We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not for LE, but 
for 
some other component. His APPLY failed, but we don't know what was done when 
he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR). The PTF(S) with the error holds 
may or may not have been applied.

At this point, I wouldn't trust his system.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
Thanks all for reply. Now to resolve this issue, I tried running below more
steps.

1) I run APPLY CHECK Job without HOLDERROR included in it. Job failed with
RC 08

GIM69168E ** HFSCOPY PROCESSING TO THE SIZUFSC LIBRARY FAILED FOR HFS
IZUGNAAC
 IN SYSMOD UI16044. THE RETURN CODE (12) EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE
 VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 23:39:39 - SEQUENCE NUMBER 25.
GIM30216IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16044. SYSTEM UTILITY
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR AN ELEMENT IN UI16044.
GIM30219E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. PROCESSING FAILED
FOR
 SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER PRE OPERAND.
GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16025. PROCESSING FAILED
FOR
 SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ OPERAND.
GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16026. PROCESSING FAILED
FOR
 SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ OPERAND.
GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16027. PROCESSING FAILED
FOR
 SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ OPERAND.
GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16028. PROCESSING FAILED
FOR
 SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ OPERAND.
GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16029. PROCESSING FAILED
FOR
 SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ OPERAND.
GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16030. PROCESSING FAILED
FOR
 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
 .  .
Then I tried looking at UI16044 PTF in SMPPTS and this is basically for
z/OSMF and we are not using this product.So, I tried EXCLUDING and run Job
again. This time it failed with

GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. REQUIRED SYSMODS
WERE
 EXCLUDED.
GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.

And UI18572 also belongs to z/OS MF. So, I EXCLUDED this as well from APLLY
CHeck Job and run with RC00.

Is it good way to bypass the issue, I am facing or Do I have to solve it
now before moving forward.

Suggestion Please.


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant 
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:

 Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it to be
 a 0 max cc.
 
 So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it works.

 We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not for LE,
 but for
 some other component. His APPLY failed, but we don't know what was done
 when
 he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR). The PTF(S) with the error holds
 may or may not have been applied.

 At this point, I wouldn't trust his system.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
I don't think, this could be a issue. Because, I tried this AMBLIST with my
OTHER RES volume as well and bit 15 is NOT-REFR and system is running with
this.


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 19:21:41 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe 
 mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry, Please find correct output.
 1 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
 00060001
 1  *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y
 *
 0MEMBER NAME:  EDC@@248
   MAIN ENTRY POINT:
 0LIBRARY:  SCEELKED
   AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT: 31
 0** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE
 ** STRXFRM   31

 -
 0     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE   
 0**   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS
   BIT  STATUS   **
 0  0  RENT 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY
 3  NOT-TEST
4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
 7  1-TXT
8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO
11 NO-RLD
12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL
15 NOT-REFR

 0

 So the problem is caused by bit 15 being not-refr instead of the proper
 setting for the module of bit 15 being refr.
 I am not sure how you broke your system. I noticed that you improperly
 bypass a lot of apars and that may be the source of the problem. I suggest
 you go back to the backup of your smpe/system environment and reapply
 correctly.

 Doug

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
You do not know if your system is good or not.

It is better to open a case with IBM and ask for Language Environment to check. 
 If you do not want to do this, then start over.

That means you should have
1) Backed up your SMPE Environment (Both Tlibs, Dlibs and all associated SMPE 
libraries) before starting maintenance.

2) If not, you may need to delete your environment and start from scratch.

Basically you have put your SMP/E environment in a bad state.  I am sure many 
on this list has done this at one time or another.

Therefore you need to get back to a good point in time and then start again.  
Do not bypass any HOLDERRORs in the future.

Lizette




 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 Thanks all for reply. Now to resolve this issue, I tried running below more 
 steps.
 
 1) I run APPLY CHECK Job without HOLDERROR included in it. Job failed with
 RC 08
 
 GIM69168E ** HFSCOPY PROCESSING TO THE SIZUFSC LIBRARY FAILED
 FOR HFS IZUGNAAC
  IN SYSMOD UI16044. THE RETURN CODE (12) EXCEEDED THE
 ALLOWABLE
  VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 23:39:39 - SEQUENCE NUMBER 25.
 GIM30216IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16044. SYSTEM
 UTILITY
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR AN ELEMENT IN UI16044.
 GIM30219E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER PRE
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16025.
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16026.
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16027.
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16028.
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16029.
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16030.
 PROCESSING FAILED FOR  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  
 .  .  .  .  .  .  .
  .  .
 Then I tried looking at UI16044 PTF in SMPPTS and this is basically for z/OSMF
 and we are not using this product.So, I tried EXCLUDING and run Job again. 
 This
 time it failed with
 
 GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
 REQUIRED SYSMODS WERE
  EXCLUDED.
 GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.
 
 And UI18572 also belongs to z/OS MF. So, I EXCLUDED this as well from APLLY
 CHeck Job and run with RC00.
 
 Is it good way to bypass the issue, I am facing or Do I have to solve it now 
 before
 moving forward.
 
 Suggestion Please.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant  000a2a8c2020-dmarc-
 requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
  On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
 
  Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it to
  be
  a 0 max cc.
  
  So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it works.
 
  We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not for
  LE, but for some other component. His APPLY failed, but we don't know
  what was done when he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR). The
  PTF(S) with the error holds may or may not have been applied.
 
  At this point, I wouldn't trust his system.
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Skip Robinson
I would be VERY wary of restoring the SMPE environment. Unless it was 
backed up exactly right with every single SMPE-related data set, restoring 
over the current environment could result in a mess bigger than the one 
that (seems to) exist now. Instead I would recommend a 'fix forward' 
approach. 

1. Check and recheck that every DDDEF points to the correct data set. This 
will take time. Don't shortcut.
2. RESTORE all PTFs that were applied since the ZONE EDIT exercise already 
noted. This will also take time. Crank through it.
3. Pull the latest HOLD data. 
4. Reapply maintenance following the new and improved process: use only 
BYPASS(HOLDSYS) and nothing else.
5. Expect RC 8 on APPLY CHECK. Look at the CAUSER section. Missing sysmods 
are OK; ignore them. Any other error must be dealt with. 
6. Expect RC 8 on the real APPLY. Once again check the CAUSER section. You 
should see only the same 'missing sysmod' messages that you saw in APPLY 
CHECK. Any other error must be dealt with. 

I agree with those who point out that conflicting LKED attributes are not 
necessarily a run-time problem, but you should consult IBM via SR to 
verify. The bigger problem here, as noted, is that your result differs 
from others (including me) who applied (more or less) the same PTFs. That 
fact is unsettling. 

.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:   Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   09/05/2014 08:37 AM
Subject:Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 19:21:41 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe 
mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry, Please find correct output.
1 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
00060001
1  *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y 
*
0MEMBER NAME:  EDC@@248
  MAIN ENTRY POINT:
0LIBRARY:  SCEELKED
  AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT: 31
0** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE
** STRXFRM   31
-
0     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE   
0**   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS
  BIT  STATUS   **
0  0  RENT 1  REUS 2 NOT-OVLY
3  NOT-TEST
   4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
7  1-TXT
   8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO
   11 NO-RLD
   12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL
   15 NOT-REFR
0

So the problem is caused by bit 15 being not-refr instead of the proper 
setting for the module of bit 15 being refr. 
I am not sure how you broke your system. I noticed that you improperly 
bypass a lot of apars and that may be the source of the problem. I suggest 
you go back to the backup of your smpe/system environment and reapply 
correctly.

Doug


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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
This is exactly how you resolve this issue. Don't deliberately put broken 
software on your system.



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 Thanks all for reply. Now to resolve this issue, I tried running below
 more steps.
 
 1) I run APPLY CHECK Job without HOLDERROR included in it. Job failed
 with RC 08
 
 GIM69168E ** HFSCOPY PROCESSING TO THE SIZUFSC LIBRARY FAILED FOR HFS
 IZUGNAAC
  IN SYSMOD UI16044. THE RETURN CODE (12) EXCEEDED THE
 ALLOWABLE
  VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 23:39:39 - SEQUENCE NUMBER
 25.
 GIM30216IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16044. SYSTEM UTILITY
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR AN ELEMENT IN UI16044.
 GIM30219E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER PRE
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16025. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16026. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16027. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16028. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16029. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16030. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
 .  .  .  .  .
  .  .
 Then I tried looking at UI16044 PTF in SMPPTS and this is basically for
 z/OSMF and we are not using this product.So, I tried EXCLUDING and run
 Job again. This time it failed with
 
 GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. REQUIRED
 SYSMODS WERE
  EXCLUDED.
 GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.
 
 And UI18572 also belongs to z/OS MF. So, I EXCLUDED this as well from
 APLLY CHeck Job and run with RC00.
 
 Is it good way to bypass the issue, I am facing or Do I have to solve
 it now before moving forward.
 
 Suggestion Please.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant  000a2a8c2020-dmarc-
 requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
  On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
 
  Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it
 to
  be
  a 0 max cc.
  
  So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it works.
 
  We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not for
  LE, but for some other component. His APPLY failed, but we don't know
  what was done when he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR). The
  PTF(S) with the error holds may or may not have been applied.
 
  At this point, I wouldn't trust his system.
 
  --
  Tom Marchant
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
While I also would not trust is system, I do trust SMP/E.
After running the APPLY EXCLUDING the PTF(s) with errors, he can run the SMP/E 
report of errors on his system.
He can research the errors and possibly RESTORE those he just put on if they 
sound like they cause aprolem he is likely to encounter,

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:19 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 You do not know if your system is good or not.
 
 It is better to open a case with IBM and ask for Language Environment
 to check.  If you do not want to do this, then start over.
 
 That means you should have
 1) Backed up your SMPE Environment (Both Tlibs, Dlibs and all
 associated SMPE libraries) before starting maintenance.
 
 2) If not, you may need to delete your environment and start from
 scratch.
 
 Basically you have put your SMP/E environment in a bad state.  I am
 sure many on this list has done this at one time or another.
 
 Therefore you need to get back to a good point in time and then start
 again.  Do not bypass any HOLDERRORs in the future.
 
 Lizette
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
  Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:28 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
  Thanks all for reply. Now to resolve this issue, I tried running
 below more steps.
 
  1) I run APPLY CHECK Job without HOLDERROR included in it. Job failed
  with RC 08
 
  GIM69168E ** HFSCOPY PROCESSING TO THE SIZUFSC LIBRARY FAILED FOR HFS
  IZUGNAAC
   IN SYSMOD UI16044. THE RETURN CODE (12) EXCEEDED THE
  ALLOWABLE
   VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 23:39:39 - SEQUENCE NUMBER
 25.
  GIM30216IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16044. SYSTEM
  UTILITY
   PROCESSING FAILED FOR AN ELEMENT IN UI16044.
  GIM30219E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER PRE
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16025.
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16026.
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16027.
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16028.
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16029.
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16030.
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
   .  .
  Then I tried looking at UI16044 PTF in SMPPTS and this is basically
  for z/OSMF and we are not using this product.So, I tried EXCLUDING
 and
  run Job again. This time it failed with
 
  GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
  REQUIRED SYSMODS WERE
   EXCLUDED.
  GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.
 
  And UI18572 also belongs to z/OS MF. So, I EXCLUDED this as well from
  APLLY CHeck Job and run with RC00.
 
  Is it good way to bypass the issue, I am facing or Do I have to solve
  it now before moving forward.
 
  Suggestion Please.
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant  000a2a8c2020-
 dmarc-
  requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
   On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
  
   Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it
   to be
   a 0 max cc.
   
   So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it
 works.
  
   We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not
   for LE, but for some other component. His APPLY failed, but we
 don't
   know what was done when he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR).
   The
   PTF(S) with the error holds may or may not have been applied.
  
   At this point, I wouldn't trust his system.
  
   --
   Tom Marchant
  
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
Or what Skip says :)

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Skip Robinson
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:29 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 I would be VERY wary of restoring the SMPE environment. Unless it was
 backed up exactly right with every single SMPE-related data set,
 restoring over the current environment could result in a mess bigger
 than the one that (seems to) exist now. Instead I would recommend a
 'fix forward'
 approach.
 
 1. Check and recheck that every DDDEF points to the correct data set.
 This will take time. Don't shortcut.
 2. RESTORE all PTFs that were applied since the ZONE EDIT exercise
 already noted. This will also take time. Crank through it.
 3. Pull the latest HOLD data.
 4. Reapply maintenance following the new and improved process: use only
 BYPASS(HOLDSYS) and nothing else.
 5. Expect RC 8 on APPLY CHECK. Look at the CAUSER section. Missing
 sysmods are OK; ignore them. Any other error must be dealt with.
 6. Expect RC 8 on the real APPLY. Once again check the CAUSER section.
 You should see only the same 'missing sysmod' messages that you saw in
 APPLY CHECK. Any other error must be dealt with.
 
 I agree with those who point out that conflicting LKED attributes are
 not necessarily a run-time problem, but you should consult IBM via SR
 to verify. The bigger problem here, as noted, is that your result
 differs from others (including me) who applied (more or less) the same
 PTFs. That fact is unsettling.
 
 .
 .
 J.O.Skip Robinson
 Southern California Edison Company
 Electric Dragon Team Paddler
 SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
 626-302-7535 Office
 323-715-0595 Mobile
 jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
 
 
 
 From:   Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
 Date:   09/05/2014 08:37 AM
 Subject:Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-
 m...@listserv.ua.edu
 
 
 
 On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 19:21:41 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe
 mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry, Please find correct output.
 1 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
 00060001
 1  *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y
 *
 0MEMBER NAME:  EDC@@248
   MAIN ENTRY POINT:
 0LIBRARY:  SCEELKED
   AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT: 31
 0** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE
 ** STRXFRM   31
 --
 ---
 0     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE
 
 0**   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT
 STATUS
   BIT  STATUS   **
 0  0  RENT 1  REUS 2 NOT-
 OVLY
 3  NOT-TEST
4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
 7  1-TXT
8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-
 ZERO
11 NO-RLD
12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-
 LEVEL
15 NOT-REFR
 0-
 ---
 
 So the problem is caused by bit 15 being not-refr instead of the proper
 setting for the module of bit 15 being refr.
 I am not sure how you broke your system. I noticed that you improperly
 bypass a lot of apars and that may be the source of the problem. I
 suggest
 you go back to the backup of your smpe/system environment and reapply
 correctly.
 
 Doug
 
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Pommier, Rex
I've been watching this exchange from a distance.  Are we now confusing 2 
issues here?  We have the original problem of CEEPLPKA and the secondary one of 
his running apply jobs bypassing holderrors without knowing what he was 
bypassing.   

The OP has gotten an apply check to run with RC=0 after removing the 
BYPASS(HOLDERROR) by eliminating the PTFs that were held by the error.  This 
doesn't do anything about the original problem of the apply returning RC=4 on 
CEEPLPKA on the actual apply.  Unless the OP eliminated additional PTFs from 
the apply (one at least of which would need to be installing a fix into 
CEEPLPKA), he will still have the issue with language environment.  

Unless I missed a part of the conversation, I believe he still needs to find 
out how to get the load module flags set correctly.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

This is exactly how you resolve this issue. Don't deliberately put broken 
software on your system.



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 Thanks all for reply. Now to resolve this issue, I tried running below
 more steps.
 
 1) I run APPLY CHECK Job without HOLDERROR included in it. Job failed
 with RC 08
 
 GIM69168E ** HFSCOPY PROCESSING TO THE SIZUFSC LIBRARY FAILED FOR HFS
 IZUGNAAC
  IN SYSMOD UI16044. THE RETURN CODE (12) EXCEEDED THE
 ALLOWABLE
  VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 23:39:39 - SEQUENCE NUMBER
 25.
 GIM30216IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16044. SYSTEM UTILITY
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR AN ELEMENT IN UI16044.
 GIM30219E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER PRE
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16025. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16026. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16027. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16028. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16029. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16030. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
 .  .  .  .  .
  .  .
 Then I tried looking at UI16044 PTF in SMPPTS and this is basically for
 z/OSMF and we are not using this product.So, I tried EXCLUDING and run
 Job again. This time it failed with
 
 GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. REQUIRED
 SYSMODS WERE
  EXCLUDED.
 GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.
 
 And UI18572 also belongs to z/OS MF. So, I EXCLUDED this as well from
 APLLY CHeck Job and run with RC00.
 
 Is it good way to bypass the issue, I am facing or Do I have to solve
 it now before moving forward.
 
 Suggestion Please.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant  000a2a8c2020-dmarc-
 requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
  On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
 
  Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it
 to
  be
  a 0 max cc.
  
  So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it works.
 
  We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not for
  LE, but for some other component. His APPLY failed, but we don't know
  what was done when he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR). The
  PTF(S) with the error holds may or may not have been applied.
 
  At this point, I wouldn't trust his system.
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-09-05, at 10:33, Gibney, Dave wrote:
 
 He can research the errors and possibly RESTORE those he just put on if they 
 sound like they cause aprolem he is likely to encounter,
 
I have once, perhaps twice, got in a situation where an attempt
to APPLY a defective, perhaps chimeric, PTF left the CSI so
damanged that an attempt to RESTORE failed.  Subsequent attempts
to APPLY REDO failed because SMP/E noted that the RESTORE had
failed; further attempts to RESTORE failed because the PTF was
not recorded as APPLYed.  I re-installed.  But I'm not our
customer; we made the PTF right before it went to field.

No one has much noted my suggestion to inspect the Binder
SYSPRINT (SMP00040) for IEWW messages, or have we got
beyond that point?

 GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
 REQUIRED SYSMODS WERE
 EXCLUDED.
 GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.

BYPASS(PRE) is not a solution; it usually makes things much
worse.  As does BYPASS(MODID).

We have had competent customers review HOLDDATA comments;
conclude correctly that the documented introduced defect
was not relevant to their configurations; and APPLY
BYPASS(HOLDERR(aparnum)) beneficially.  Be informed, and
be specific about the aparnum(s).

-- gil

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Pommier, Rex
And potentially a third problem that was mentioned by Anthony Thompson that has 
been overlooked as well.  The OP posted an AMBLIST of module STRXFRM showing it 
as an ALIAS of EDC@@248.  Anthony pointed out that on his 2.1 system, both 
STRXFRM and EDC@@248 are aliases of EDC4$09E.  My 1.13 system matches Anthony's 
2.1 system.  Is the fact that the OP's system appears to be different in 
SCEELKED another problem?

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Pommier, Rex
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:51 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

I've been watching this exchange from a distance.  Are we now confusing 2 
issues here?  We have the original problem of CEEPLPKA and the secondary one of 
his running apply jobs bypassing holderrors without knowing what he was 
bypassing.   

The OP has gotten an apply check to run with RC=0 after removing the 
BYPASS(HOLDERROR) by eliminating the PTFs that were held by the error.  This 
doesn't do anything about the original problem of the apply returning RC=4 on 
CEEPLPKA on the actual apply.  Unless the OP eliminated additional PTFs from 
the apply (one at least of which would need to be installing a fix into 
CEEPLPKA), he will still have the issue with language environment.  

Unless I missed a part of the conversation, I believe he still needs to find 
out how to get the load module flags set correctly.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

This is exactly how you resolve this issue. Don't deliberately put broken 
software on your system.



 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 Thanks all for reply. Now to resolve this issue, I tried running below
 more steps.
 
 1) I run APPLY CHECK Job without HOLDERROR included in it. Job failed
 with RC 08
 
 GIM69168E ** HFSCOPY PROCESSING TO THE SIZUFSC LIBRARY FAILED FOR HFS
 IZUGNAAC
  IN SYSMOD UI16044. THE RETURN CODE (12) EXCEEDED THE
 ALLOWABLE
  VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 23:39:39 - SEQUENCE NUMBER
 25.
 GIM30216IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16044. SYSTEM UTILITY
  PROCESSING FAILED FOR AN ELEMENT IN UI16044.
 GIM30219E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER PRE
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16025. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16026. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16027. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16028. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16029. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR
  SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
 OPERAND.
 GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16030. PROCESSING
 FAILED FOR  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
 .  .  .  .  .
  .  .
 Then I tried looking at UI16044 PTF in SMPPTS and this is basically for
 z/OSMF and we are not using this product.So, I tried EXCLUDING and run
 Job again. This time it failed with
 
 GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572. REQUIRED
 SYSMODS WERE
  EXCLUDED.
 GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.
 
 And UI18572 also belongs to z/OS MF. So, I EXCLUDED this as well from
 APLLY CHeck Job and run with RC00.
 
 Is it good way to bypass the issue, I am facing or Do I have to solve
 it now before moving forward.
 
 Suggestion Please.
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant  000a2a8c2020-dmarc-
 requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
  On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
 
  Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it
 to
  be
  a 0 max cc.
  
  So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it works.
 
  We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not for
  LE, but for some other component. His APPLY failed, but we don't know
  what was done when he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR). The
  PTF(S) with the error holds may or may not have been applied.
 
  At this point, I wouldn't trust his system.
 
  --
  Tom Marchant

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Mark Jacobs

On 09/05/14 13:19, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On 2014-09-05, at 10:33, Gibney, Dave wrote:

He can research the errors and possibly RESTORE those he just put on if they 
sound like they cause aprolem he is likely to encounter,


I have once, perhaps twice, got in a situation where an attempt
to APPLY a defective, perhaps chimeric, PTF left the CSI so
damanged that an attempt to RESTORE failed.  Subsequent attempts
to APPLY REDO failed because SMP/E noted that the RESTORE had
failed; further attempts to RESTORE failed because the PTF was
not recorded as APPLYed.  I re-installed.  But I'm not our
customer; we made the PTF right before it went to field.

No one has much noted my suggestion to inspect the Binder
SYSPRINT (SMP00040) for IEWW messages, or have we got
beyond that point?


GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
REQUIRED SYSMODS WERE
 EXCLUDED.
GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.

BYPASS(PRE) is not a solution; it usually makes things much
worse.  As does BYPASS(MODID).

We have had competent customers review HOLDDATA comments;
conclude correctly that the documented introduced defect
was not relevant to their configurations; and APPLY
BYPASS(HOLDERR(aparnum)) beneficially.  Be informed, and
be specific about the aparnum(s).

-- gil



That's why Systems Programming is as much an art as it is a science. 
Knowing why you do things or even more importantly why you don't do 
something, has to be learned from experience.


--
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Time Customer Service
Tampa, FL


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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
I would also, having done this awhile, be comfortable with APPLY 
BYPASS(HOLDERR(specificapar)) is and only if I was 1. Actually experiencing the 
problem fixed by the PTF and 2. Confident the reason for error wasn't worse.

At the beginning of my systems programmer career, I might have been naïve 
enough to try BYPSSS(HOLDERR but I had the benefit of more experienced mentors.

Mr. Mainframe Mainframe is trying hard, but it is clear he has been tossed in 
the deep end without sufficient support and training. 

 We have had competent customers review HOLDDATA comments; conclude
 correctly that the documented introduced defect was not relevant to their
 configurations; and APPLY
 BYPASS(HOLDERR(aparnum)) beneficially.  Be informed, and be specific about
 the aparnum(s).
 
 -- gil
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Gibney, Dave
I think I saw a comment to the effect that the error in the PTF that needed to 
be excluded related to the rc=4, but I could be wrong.

Actually, I don't know how far this system has evolved/mutated since the 
Serverpac install. I an stongly inclined to recommending a do over starting 
with a fresh order/install of a new Serverpac :)

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 9:51 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 I've been watching this exchange from a distance.  Are we now confusing 2
 issues here?  We have the original problem of CEEPLPKA and the secondary
 one of his running apply jobs bypassing holderrors without knowing what he
 was bypassing.
 
 The OP has gotten an apply check to run with RC=0 after removing the
 BYPASS(HOLDERROR) by eliminating the PTFs that were held by the error.
 This doesn't do anything about the original problem of the apply returning
 RC=4 on CEEPLPKA on the actual apply.  Unless the OP eliminated additional
 PTFs from the apply (one at least of which would need to be installing a fix
 into CEEPLPKA), he will still have the issue with language environment.
 
 Unless I missed a part of the conversation, I believe he still needs to find 
 out
 how to get the load module flags set correctly.
 
 Rex
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 This is exactly how you resolve this issue. Don't deliberately put broken
 software on your system.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-
 m...@listserv.ua.edu]
  On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe
  Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 7:28 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
  Thanks all for reply. Now to resolve this issue, I tried running below
  more steps.
 
  1) I run APPLY CHECK Job without HOLDERROR included in it. Job failed
  with RC 08
 
  GIM69168E ** HFSCOPY PROCESSING TO THE SIZUFSC LIBRARY FAILED FOR
 HFS
  IZUGNAAC
   IN SYSMOD UI16044. THE RETURN CODE (12) EXCEEDED THE
  ALLOWABLE
   VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 23:39:39 - SEQUENCE NUMBER
  25.
  GIM30216IAPPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16044. SYSTEM
 UTILITY
   PROCESSING FAILED FOR AN ELEMENT IN UI16044.
  GIM30219E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
 PROCESSING
  FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER PRE
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16025.
 PROCESSING
  FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16026.
 PROCESSING
  FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16027.
 PROCESSING
  FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16028.
 PROCESSING
  FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16029.
 PROCESSING
  FAILED FOR
   SYSMOD UI16044, WHICH WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ++VER REQ
  OPERAND.
  GIM30221E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI16030.
 PROCESSING
  FAILED FOR  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
  .  .  .  .  .
   .  .
  Then I tried looking at UI16044 PTF in SMPPTS and this is basically
  for z/OSMF and we are not using this product.So, I tried EXCLUDING and
  run Job again. This time it failed with
 
  GIM30204E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI18572.
 REQUIRED
  SYSMODS WERE
   EXCLUDED.
  GIM35905IPREREQUISITE SYSMOD UI16044 WAS EXCLUDED.
 
  And UI18572 also belongs to z/OS MF. So, I EXCLUDED this as well from
  APLLY CHeck Job and run with RC00.
 
  Is it good way to bypass the issue, I am facing or Do I have to solve
  it now before moving forward.
 
  Suggestion Please.
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Tom Marchant  000a2a8c2020-
 dmarc-
  requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
 
   On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 06:56:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
  
   Do not change the CEEPLPKA. IBM sets that and probably requires it
  to
   be
   a 0 max cc.
   
   So, try the apply without the BYPASS HOLDERROR and see if it works.
  
   We don't know the state of his system. Those APARs are likely not
   for LE, but for some other component. His APPLY failed, but we don't
   know what was done when he ran the APPLY with BYPASS (HOLDERROR).
   The
   PTF(S) with the error holds may or may not have been applied.
  
   At this point, I wouldn't trust his system

Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Doug Henry
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 17:32:19 +, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com wrote:

And potentially a third problem that was mentioned by Anthony Thompson that 
has been overlooked as well.  The OP posted an ?AMBLIST of module STRXFRM 
showing it as an ALIAS of EDC@@248.  Anthony pointed out that on his 2.1 
system, both STRXFRM and EDC@@248 are aliases of EDC4$09E.  My 1.13 system 
matches Anthony's 2.1 system.  Is the fact that the OP's system appears to be 
different in SCEELKED another problem?

Rex
Hi Rex,

Using the wrong verion of SCEELKED is the entire problem of getting a return 
code 4 on the binder when the OP applied UI18451.
As you noticed he is not using a z/OS V2R1 or a z/os V1R13 SCEELKED. I am not 
sure how far you have to back to get one like he is using. He is lucky that the 
 apply required a return code of 0 to be successful !

Doug
 

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Ed Gould

Dave,
I guess we will have to disagree on what holds can be bypassed.
There are examples that IBM tells you in the hold why to do that its  
OK to bypass. Usually IME: action or others they tell you that you  
must do this ie link it outside of SMPE with special parms. Granted  
its not often  but that is why its important to do as IBM instructs.  
SYSGEN (you wont see that now days) was another one that there was  
something special you had to do after applying the PTF.


I know when I used to do SMP work by bypass was always on 2 lines.  
Yes I checked every PTF that was on the hold report to see anything I  
might need to do after those PTF's went on with an apply.
A LONG time ago I was putting on a CBPDO there were 13000 PTF's going  
on and the hold list (IIRC 150 were held) was well researched. In  
fact IBM had not shipped all the PTF's on the tape and I finally got  
to do a full apply of those 13000 PTF's and it seemed to take forever  
(12+ hours).


In summary I think its OK to bypass *SOME* hold errors  of course not  
all.


Ed



On Sep 5, 2014, at 2:03 AM, Gibney, Dave wrote:

You should never (unless told by IBM who probably never will)  
BYPASS error holds. They have the hold because they are in error.  
The error could be minor or it could crash your entire system.


Use EXCLUDE of the PTF with the error if you wish to get a  
successful APPLY. INMO. you shouldn't be APPLY without having  
achieved a successful APLYCHECK run, but other here just run and  
let the PTFs with error holds fail.


But, either way, intentionally putting broken software on your  
system is not a good practice.



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I was getting errors while doing apply check for these HOLDERROR,  
so, I

used by pass to move ahead for apply.Is there any issues you see in
this.

Do you suggest to change acceptable value for CEEPLPKA or any other
clue.


On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.com
wrote:


There were two things in the job run I was able to see.  Let me know
if this might be part of the issue

First - should you code BYPASS(HOLDS(...) HOLDE(...) )??  I always
thought you should let HOLDERROR alone unless you have a fixing PTF

from IBM.

Though I could be wrong.


BYPASS(HOLDSYS(DOC,IPL,RESTART,ACTION,ENH,DEP,AO,MSGSKEL,MULTSYS,
   DYNACT,EC,DB2BIND,EXIT,DELETE,DDDEF)

HOLDERROR(AA45207,AA45706,AA45113,AA44153,AA45166,AA44844,AA45744))

Second
 IEW2322I 1220  923NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX
ACCEPTABLE RC=00
 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEARLU UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)

SPECIFIED.

 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEBLLST UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)

SPECIFIED.

 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL STRFTIME UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)

SPECIFIED.

 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL LOCALECO UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL)

SPECIFIED.



I think the fact that CEEPLPKA sets max cc as 0 is the issue for
UI18451

Let me know if I am closer to the resolution.

Lizette




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On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:55:32 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:


I see some more warning message before this error message like ...
GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA72482 WAS

SUCCESSFUL FOR

MODULE
 CBRICMMN IN LMOD CBRINIT0 IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE

RETURN CODE

 WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:21 - SEQUENCE

NUMBER

87

 SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
...


That's from SMPOUT, not Binder SYSPRINT.  Are you viewing your
output

with

SDSF?  If so, open the job with ? rather than S and go directly
to

SMP00040 (I

believe (E)JES has a similar feature, perhaps different syntax).
Try

FIND

p'IEWW' (IIRC correctly the ISPF syntax -- help!?)



On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:


On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:13:31 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:


Hello Rob,
 In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.


Binder SYSPRINT (perhaps in your case SMP00030) should tell you:


Oops!  I meant SMP00040.


o The maximum RC specified on the NAME statement (IIRC, SMP/E
  converts that to a comment).

o The actual return code from the bind operation (look near the

bottom).


o Message codes, , of Warning severity.  Search backward for
  IEWW.


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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-05 Thread Ed Gould

On Sep 5, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Tom Marchant wrote:

-SNIP


Not refreshable. That's what the Binder told you. You need to find  
out why.

You may need to contact IBM.



Tom,

I agree. the module somehow got linked incorrectly either from the  
last PTF that hit it or it got linked outside of SMPE.
What the author should do is look at what the last PTF that hit the  
module and see what the link parms were. There may have been a PTF  
that did it by mistake and no ones caught it untillthe PTF that was  
going on was caught. In either case make sure through SMPE what the  
last PTF went on and look at retain to see if it was in error and do  
the research on previous PTF's to see eho caused the problem and open  
a PMR if everything is Kosher.


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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Doug Henry
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 16:00:06 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe 
mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote:

I am in middle of applying RSU on z/OS 2.1 system and getting RC 08 with
below issues.


GIM23911E ** LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UI18451 FAILED FOR MODULE
CEEHDSP
 IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
 EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37 -
 SEQUENCE NUMBER 92 - SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.

I just tested putting on UI18451 and it went on without a problem. I wonder if 
you are running out of space in SCEERUN ? I would look at the joblog of your 
smpe run and see if there are indications of that .

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Kurt Quackenbush

GIM23911E ** LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UI18451 FAILED FOR MODULE
CEEZIDT
  IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
  EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37 -
  SEQUENCE NUMBER 92 - SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.

when I checked SMP00040, I didnt find much info except

IEW2322I 1220  1INCLUDE SMPWRK3(CEEHDSP)   UI18451
IEW2322I 1220  2 IDENTIFY CEEHDSP('UI18451')
IEW2322I 1220  3 SETSSI 01118451

snip

The SMP/E messages are telling you there was a problem linking load 
module CEEPLPKA.  Find the binder output for that link edit operation 
(literally, Find CEEPLPKA) and you should see something more meaningful 
than you've pasted here.


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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Doug Henry
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 18:30:16 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe 
mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hell Kurt,
I also extracted below output

I see these warning messages in the output for that particular PTF that are
causing your RC4.  Here is one of the modules in your list CEEYCBTS

(snipped a bunch out)

IEW2322I 1220  1272NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX
ACCEPTABLE RC=00

 IEW2609W 5104 SECTION STRXFRM USABILITY ATTRIBUTE OF REENTRANT CONFLICTS
WITH REQUESTED USABILITY OF REFRESHABLE.

For my apply of UI18451 (that works fine) I see for the bind of CEEPLPKA the 
options that smpe passed are :

IEW2278I B352 INVOCATION PARAMETERS - 
LIST,LET,NCAL,XREF,RENT,REFR,AMODE=31,RMODE=ANY,CALL 

Then  STRXFRM is autoincluded from  STRXFRM
218260  STRXFRM *  CSECT A  SMP1  01  STRXFRM
SMP101 SYS1.SCEELKED 

In SCEELKED STRXFRM is an alias for EDC4$09E and it attributes include  refr 
and rent.

 AMODE == 31   
 AUTH  == NO   
 DC== NO   
 EDIT  == YES  
 ENTRY ==  
 EXEC  == YES  
 LOADONLY  == NO   
 PAGE  == NO   
 REFR  == YES  
 RENT  == YES  
 REUS  == YES  
 RMODE == ANY  
I don't know if any of this helps you.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
For this type of error I look at the following

1)  JOBLOB of the SMP/E Job
  a.Are there any issues for the Datasets in the messages?
  b.Are there any IGD messages or Space issues
2)  SMPRPT 
  a.What messages are there for the PTF
  b.UI18451 does it have any PTFs with it that did not go on?
3)  What other error messages are found in and about that PTF?  That 
Library? That Load Module
  a.If there are no supporting messages that make sense on why it Failed
  b.Look through IBM Link (SR/ETR) and see if there has been an issue  
reported for the PTF during SMP/E Processing
  c.Open a CASE with IBM for that product to determine why it failed

Unless you post your entire JOB LOG and SMPRPT and LINK output, hard to say why 
it failed.

I might also like to see the DDDEF report to make sure the files are on the 
correct DD Statement.

The reason to open a CASE to Language Environment is because it is their SMPE 
process.  SMPE probably did exactly what it was supposed to do.  However, 
something failed in the process.  You may need to ask Language Environment if 
they have any issues with this PTF.
Why do LKED process fail?  Many reasons, Space, Incorrect dataset type (PDSE vs 
PDS), missing data set in SYSLMOD, and probably others.

There should be messages in the SMPE JOB output that can clarify for you what 
is not quite correct. 

Lizette


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 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:53 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
  GIM23911E ** LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UI18451 FAILED
 FOR MODULE
  CEEZIDT
IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN
 CODE (04)
EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37
 -
SEQUENCE NUMBER 92 - SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
 
  when I checked SMP00040, I didnt find much info except
 
  IEW2322I 1220  1INCLUDE SMPWRK3(CEEHDSP)   UI18451
  IEW2322I 1220  2 IDENTIFY CEEHDSP('UI18451')
  IEW2322I 1220  3 SETSSI 01118451
 snip
 
 The SMP/E messages are telling you there was a problem linking load module
 CEEPLPKA.  Find the binder output for that link edit operation (literally, 
 Find
 CEEPLPKA) and you should see something more meaningful than you've pasted
 here.
 
 Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Skip Robinson
The output shows this:

   IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
   EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37

It's not at all uncommon for the binder to return code 04 for various 
reasons that are not actually 'problems'. In this case we see messages 
about conflicting module attributes. This happens. Life goes on. It's way 
less dangerous than, say, global warming. 

The real problem here is that SMPE is being too prissy. If 04 'exceeded 
the allowable value', then the allowable value is set too low. 04 is only 
a warning after all. Go into the SMPE dialog and examine the GLOBAL 
UTILITY options for entry LKED. If it says 'RETURN CODE: 0', you will 
incur never ending grief now and in the future. Because of your LKED 
entry, SMPE turns 04 into 08. 

Our 2.1 SMPE environment has already been tailored for us, so I can't tell 
how it came out of the box. Now it's set to 'RETURN CODE: 4', which we've 
used for as long as I can remember. This way we get 08 only for real 
problems. 
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:   Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   09/04/2014 07:16 AM
Subject:Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
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For this type of error I look at the following

1)   JOBLOB of the SMP/E Job
  a. Are there any issues for the Datasets in the messages?
  b. Are there any IGD messages or Space issues
2)   SMPRPT 
  a. What messages are there for the PTF
  b. UI18451 does it have any PTFs with it that did not go on?
3)   What other error messages are found in and about that 
PTF?  That Library? That Load Module
  a. If there are no supporting messages that make sense on 
why it Failed
  b. Look through IBM Link (SR/ETR) and see if there has been 
an issue  reported for the PTF during SMP/E Processing
  c. Open a CASE with IBM for that product to determine why it 
failed

Unless you post your entire JOB LOG and SMPRPT and LINK output, hard to 
say why it failed.

I might also like to see the DDDEF report to make sure the files are on 
the correct DD Statement.

The reason to open a CASE to Language Environment is because it is their 
SMPE process.  SMPE probably did exactly what it was supposed to do. 
However, something failed in the process.  You may need to ask Language 
Environment if they have any issues with this PTF.
Why do LKED process fail?  Many reasons, Space, Incorrect dataset type 
(PDSE vs PDS), missing data set in SYSLMOD, and probably others.

There should be messages in the SMPE JOB output that can clarify for you 
what is not quite correct. 

Lizette


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:53 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
  GIM23911E ** LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UI18451 FAILED
 FOR MODULE
  CEEZIDT
IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN
 CODE (04)
EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 
02:35:37
 -
SEQUENCE NUMBER 92 - SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
 
  when I checked SMP00040, I didnt find much info except
 
  IEW2322I 1220  1INCLUDE SMPWRK3(CEEHDSP)   UI18451
  IEW2322I 1220  2 IDENTIFY CEEHDSP('UI18451')
  IEW2322I 1220  3 SETSSI 01118451
 snip
 
 The SMP/E messages are telling you there was a problem linking load 
module
 CEEPLPKA.  Find the binder output for that link edit operation 
(literally, Find
 CEEPLPKA) and you should see something more meaningful than you've 
pasted
 here.
 
 Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Doug Henry
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 07:32:54 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com 
wrote:

The output shows this:

   IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
   EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37

It's not at all uncommon for the binder to return code 04 for various
reasons that are not actually 'problems'. In this case we see messages
about conflicting module attributes. This happens. Life goes on. It's way
less dangerous than, say, global warming.

The real problem here is that SMPE is being too prissy. If 04 'exceeded
the allowable value', then the allowable value is set too low. 04 is only
a warning after all. Go into the SMPE dialog and examine the GLOBAL
UTILITY options for entry LKED. If it says 'RETURN CODE: 0', you will
incur never ending grief now and in the future. Because of your LKED
entry, SMPE turns 04 into 08.

Our 2.1 SMPE environment has already been tailored for us, so I can't tell
how it came out of the box. Now it's set to 'RETURN CODE: 4', which we've
used for as long as I can remember. This way we get 08 only for real
problems.

Hi Skip,
If you read my previous reply's you will know that I sucessfully applied 
UI18451 just to test this for him this morning. However he is running  into 
some fundamental problem . The bind of  CEEPLPKA should result in a return code 
0 (not 4). I also have my binder global option set to 4 but that is irrelevent 
in this problem because it is being overridden by the lmod Return Code subentry 
(it specifies 0).  The problem seems to be with the entries that are 
autoinclude by the binder don't seem to have the proper rent reus flag set. As 
I said before an example is the module STRXFRM that should be RENT, REUS, REFR .

IEW2322I 1220  1272NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX ACCEPTABLE 
RC=00  

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
Hello Rob,
  In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.




On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
wrote:

 The output shows this:

IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37

 It's not at all uncommon for the binder to return code 04 for various
 reasons that are not actually 'problems'. In this case we see messages
 about conflicting module attributes. This happens. Life goes on. It's way
 less dangerous than, say, global warming.

 The real problem here is that SMPE is being too prissy. If 04 'exceeded
 the allowable value', then the allowable value is set too low. 04 is only
 a warning after all. Go into the SMPE dialog and examine the GLOBAL
 UTILITY options for entry LKED. If it says 'RETURN CODE: 0', you will
 incur never ending grief now and in the future. Because of your LKED
 entry, SMPE turns 04 into 08.

 Our 2.1 SMPE environment has already been tailored for us, so I can't tell
 how it came out of the box. Now it's set to 'RETURN CODE: 4', which we've
 used for as long as I can remember. This way we get 08 only for real
 problems.
 .
 .
 J.O.Skip Robinson
 Southern California Edison Company
 Electric Dragon Team Paddler
 SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
 626-302-7535 Office
 323-715-0595 Mobile
 jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



 From:   Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
 Date:   09/04/2014 07:16 AM
 Subject:Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



 For this type of error I look at the following

 1)   JOBLOB of the SMP/E Job
   a. Are there any issues for the Datasets in the messages?
   b. Are there any IGD messages or Space issues
 2)   SMPRPT
   a. What messages are there for the PTF
   b. UI18451 does it have any PTFs with it that did not go on?
 3)   What other error messages are found in and about that
 PTF?  That Library? That Load Module
   a. If there are no supporting messages that make sense on
 why it Failed
   b. Look through IBM Link (SR/ETR) and see if there has been
 an issue  reported for the PTF during SMP/E Processing
   c. Open a CASE with IBM for that product to determine why it
 failed

 Unless you post your entire JOB LOG and SMPRPT and LINK output, hard to
 say why it failed.

 I might also like to see the DDDEF report to make sure the files are on
 the correct DD Statement.

 The reason to open a CASE to Language Environment is because it is their
 SMPE process.  SMPE probably did exactly what it was supposed to do.
 However, something failed in the process.  You may need to ask Language
 Environment if they have any issues with this PTF.
 Why do LKED process fail?  Many reasons, Space, Incorrect dataset type
 (PDSE vs PDS), missing data set in SYSLMOD, and probably others.

 There should be messages in the SMPE JOB output that can clarify for you
 what is not quite correct.

 Lizette


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  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
  Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:53 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
   GIM23911E ** LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UI18451 FAILED
  FOR MODULE
   CEEZIDT
 IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN
  CODE (04)
 EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME
 02:35:37
  -
 SEQUENCE NUMBER 92 - SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
  
   when I checked SMP00040, I didnt find much info except
  
   IEW2322I 1220  1INCLUDE SMPWRK3(CEEHDSP)   UI18451
   IEW2322I 1220  2 IDENTIFY CEEHDSP('UI18451')
   IEW2322I 1220  3 SETSSI 01118451
  snip
 
  The SMP/E messages are telling you there was a problem linking load
 module
  CEEPLPKA.  Find the binder output for that link edit operation
 (literally, Find
  CEEPLPKA) and you should see something more meaningful than you've
 pasted
  here.
 
  Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:13:31 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:

Hello Rob,
  In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.

Binder SYSPRINT (perhaps in your case SMP00030) should tell you:

o The maximum RC specified on the NAME statement (IIRC, SMP/E
  converts that to a comment).

o The actual return code from the bind operation (look near the bottom).

o Message codes, , of Warning severity.  Search backward for
  IEWW.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
I see some more warning message before this error message like

GIM22701IAPPLY PROCESSING WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SYSMOD UA72131.

 GIM22701IAPPLY PROCESSING WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SYSMOD UA70978.

 GIM22701IAPPLY PROCESSING WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SYSMOD UA72744.

 GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA72482 WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR
MODULE
  CBRICMMN IN LMOD CBRINIT0 IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE RETURN
CODE
  WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:21 - SEQUENCE NUMBER 87
-
  SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.

 GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA71130 WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR
MODULE
  IGG0191B IN LMOD IGG0191A IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE RETURN
CODE
  WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:22 - SEQUENCE NUMBER 88
-
  SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.

 GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA71462 WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR
MODULE
  IGC0002A IN LMOD IGC0002A IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE RETURN
CODE
  WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:22 - SEQUENCE NUMBER 88
-
  SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.

 GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA72749 WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR
MODULE
  IGG0201Z IN LMOD IGG0201Z IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE RETURN
CODE
  WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:22 - SEQUENCE NUMBER 88
-
  SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.



On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:13:31 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:

 Hello Rob,
   In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.
 
 Binder SYSPRINT (perhaps in your case SMP00030) should tell you:

 o The maximum RC specified on the NAME statement (IIRC, SMP/E
   converts that to a comment).

 o The actual return code from the bind operation (look near the bottom).

 o Message codes, , of Warning severity.  Search backward for
   IEWW.

 -- gil

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:55:32 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:

I see some more warning message before this error message like
...
 GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA72482 WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR
MODULE
  CBRICMMN IN LMOD CBRINIT0 IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE
  WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:21 - SEQUENCE NUMBER 87
  SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
 ...

That's from SMPOUT, not Binder SYSPRINT.  Are you viewing your output with
SDSF?  If so, open the job with ? rather than S and go directly to SMP00040
(I believe (E)JES has a similar feature, perhaps different syntax).  Try
FIND p'IEWW' (IIRC correctly the ISPF syntax -- help!?)


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

 On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:13:31 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:

 Hello Rob,
   In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.
 
 Binder SYSPRINT (perhaps in your case SMP00030) should tell you:
 
Oops!  I meant SMP00040.

 o The maximum RC specified on the NAME statement (IIRC, SMP/E
   converts that to a comment).

 o The actual return code from the bind operation (look near the bottom).

 o Message codes, , of Warning severity.  Search backward for
   IEWW.

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Skip Robinson
Guilty as charged; I did not dwell on Doug's posts. Installing the same 
PTF and getting a different result raise other questions to be pursued. 
There may be a benign explanation that IBM could supply in an SR. I 
applied UI18451 in June and don't see any anomalies the sysout. 

.
.
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Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
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From:   Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   09/04/2014 09:30 AM
Subject:Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 07:32:54 -0700, Skip Robinson 
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote:

The output shows this:

   IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
   EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37

It's not at all uncommon for the binder to return code 04 for various
reasons that are not actually 'problems'. In this case we see messages
about conflicting module attributes. This happens. Life goes on. It's way
less dangerous than, say, global warming.

The real problem here is that SMPE is being too prissy. If 04 'exceeded
the allowable value', then the allowable value is set too low. 04 is only
a warning after all. Go into the SMPE dialog and examine the GLOBAL
UTILITY options for entry LKED. If it says 'RETURN CODE: 0', you will
incur never ending grief now and in the future. Because of your LKED
entry, SMPE turns 04 into 08.

Our 2.1 SMPE environment has already been tailored for us, so I can't 
tell
how it came out of the box. Now it's set to 'RETURN CODE: 4', which we've
used for as long as I can remember. This way we get 08 only for real
problems.

Hi Skip,
If you read my previous reply's you will know that I sucessfully applied 
UI18451 just to test this for him this morning. However he is running into 
some fundamental problem . The bind of  CEEPLPKA should result in a return 
code 0 (not 4). I also have my binder global option set to 4 but that is 
irrelevent in this problem because it is being overridden by the lmod 
Return Code subentry (it specifies 0).  The problem seems to be with the 
entries that are autoinclude by the binder don't seem to have the proper 
rent reus flag set. As I said before an example is the module STRXFRM that 
should be RENT, REUS, REFR .

IEW2322I 1220  1272NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX 
ACCEPTABLE RC=00 

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 9/4/2014 7:32 AM, Skip Robinson wrote:

The real problem here is that SMPE is being too prissy. If 04 'exceeded
the allowable value', then the allowable value is set too low. 04 is only
a warning after all. Go into the SMPE dialog and examine the GLOBAL
UTILITY options for entry LKED. If it says 'RETURN CODE: 0', you will
incur never ending grief now and in the future. Because of your LKED
entry, SMPE turns 04 into 08.


For many, Many, MANY years now, product packagers are supposed to set 
the maximum allowable return code for each LMOD directly in the JCLIN. 
For example (from some of our product packaging):


   ORDER EJESREXX
   INCLUDE AEJELMOD(EJESREXX)
   ENTRY EJESREXX
 NAME EJESREXX(R) RC=0 -- This is it!

For this reason, a properly packaged product should never see 
msgGIM23911E unless there is a real problem.


If RC=n is not specified at all in the JCLIN for a given LMOD, that 
would be a reason to complain to the lazy product packagers.


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Phoenix Software International, Inc
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Gibney, Dave
I could be way off base, but given that the OP just finished a thread where the 
solution was a mass/conditional zoneedit of his DDDEFs, I would look very 
closely at which libraries are actually being used and updated by this SMP/E 
running. An inadvertent mixing of LE levels is scary.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Skip Robinson
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:22 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 Guilty as charged; I did not dwell on Doug's posts. Installing the same PTF 
 and
 getting a different result raise other questions to be pursued.
 There may be a benign explanation that IBM could supply in an SR. I applied
 UI18451 in June and don't see any anomalies the sysout.
 
 .
 .
 J.O.Skip Robinson
 Southern California Edison Company
 Electric Dragon Team Paddler
 SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
 626-302-7535 Office
 323-715-0595 Mobile
 jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
 
 
 
 From:   Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
 Date:   09/04/2014 09:30 AM
 Subject:Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 
 
 On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 07:32:54 -0700, Skip Robinson
 jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote:
 
 The output shows this:
 
IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37
 
 It's not at all uncommon for the binder to return code 04 for various
 reasons that are not actually 'problems'. In this case we see messages
 about conflicting module attributes. This happens. Life goes on. It's way
 less dangerous than, say, global warming.
 
 The real problem here is that SMPE is being too prissy. If 04 'exceeded
 the allowable value', then the allowable value is set too low. 04 is only
 a warning after all. Go into the SMPE dialog and examine the GLOBAL
 UTILITY options for entry LKED. If it says 'RETURN CODE: 0', you will
 incur never ending grief now and in the future. Because of your LKED
 entry, SMPE turns 04 into 08.
 
 Our 2.1 SMPE environment has already been tailored for us, so I can't
 tell
 how it came out of the box. Now it's set to 'RETURN CODE: 4', which we've
 used for as long as I can remember. This way we get 08 only for real
 problems.
 
 Hi Skip,
 If you read my previous reply's you will know that I sucessfully applied
 UI18451 just to test this for him this morning. However he is running into
 some fundamental problem . The bind of  CEEPLPKA should result in a return
 code 0 (not 4). I also have my binder global option set to 4 but that is
 irrelevent in this problem because it is being overridden by the lmod
 Return Code subentry (it specifies 0).  The problem seems to be with the
 entries that are autoinclude by the binder don't seem to have the proper
 rent reus flag set. As I said before an example is the module STRXFRM that
 should be RENT, REUS, REFR .
 
 IEW2322I 1220  1272NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX
 ACCEPTABLE RC=00
 
 Doug
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Jousma, David
Good Catch!

I didn't make the connection.

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Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 3:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

I could be way off base, but given that the OP just finished a thread where the 
solution was a mass/conditional zoneedit of his DDDEFs, I would look very 
closely at which libraries are actually being used and updated by this SMP/E 
running. An inadvertent mixing of LE levels is scary.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Skip Robinson
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:22 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 Guilty as charged; I did not dwell on Doug's posts. Installing the 
 same PTF and getting a different result raise other questions to be pursued.
 There may be a benign explanation that IBM could supply in an SR. I 
 applied
 UI18451 in June and don't see any anomalies the sysout.
 
 .
 .
 J.O.Skip Robinson
 Southern California Edison Company
 Electric Dragon Team Paddler
 SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
 626-302-7535 Office
 323-715-0595 Mobile
 jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
 
 
 
 From:   Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
 Date:   09/04/2014 09:30 AM
 Subject:Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 
 
 On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 07:32:54 -0700, Skip Robinson 
 jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote:
 
 The output shows this:
 
IN LMOD CEEPLPKA IN THE SCEERUN LIBRARY. THE RETURN CODE (04)
EXCEEDED THE ALLOWABLE VALUE. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:37
 
 It's not at all uncommon for the binder to return code 04 for various 
 reasons that are not actually 'problems'. In this case we see 
 messages about conflicting module attributes. This happens. Life goes 
 on. It's way less dangerous than, say, global warming.
 
 The real problem here is that SMPE is being too prissy. If 04 
 'exceeded the allowable value', then the allowable value is set too 
 low. 04 is only a warning after all. Go into the SMPE dialog and 
 examine the GLOBAL UTILITY options for entry LKED. If it says 'RETURN 
 CODE: 0', you will incur never ending grief now and in the future. 
 Because of your LKED entry, SMPE turns 04 into 08.
 
 Our 2.1 SMPE environment has already been tailored for us, so I can't
 tell
 how it came out of the box. Now it's set to 'RETURN CODE: 4', which 
 we've used for as long as I can remember. This way we get 08 only for 
 real problems.
 
 Hi Skip,
 If you read my previous reply's you will know that I sucessfully 
 applied
 UI18451 just to test this for him this morning. However he is running 
 into some fundamental problem . The bind of  CEEPLPKA should result in 
 a return code 0 (not 4). I also have my binder global option set to 4 
 but that is irrelevent in this problem because it is being overridden 
 by the lmod Return Code subentry (it specifies 0).  The problem seems 
 to be with the entries that are autoinclude by the binder don't seem 
 to have the proper rent reus flag set. As I said before an example is 
 the module STRXFRM that should be RENT, REUS, REFR .
 
 IEW2322I 1220  1272NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX
 ACCEPTABLE RC=00
 
 Doug
 
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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Doug Henry
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:23:25 +, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:

I could be way off base, but given that the OP just finished a thread where 
the solution was a mass/conditional zoneedit of his DDDEFs, I would look very 
closely at which libraries are actually being used and updated by this SMP/E 
running. An inadvertent mixing of LE levels is scary.

 Hi Dave,
Yes this might very well be the issue. Just concentrating on the first module 
that causes the problem, I suggest that OP do an amblist and send the output to 
the list. This output should have rent (bit 0), reuse (bit 1), and refr (bit 
15) set. 

//LIST EXEC PGM=AMBLIST   
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SCEELKED DD  DSN=SYS1.SCEELKED,DISP=SHR 
//SYSINDD  * 
 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
/*

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
Below O/P for AMBLIST




On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com wrote:

 On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:23:25 +, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:

 I could be way off base, but given that the OP just finished a thread
 where the solution was a mass/conditional zoneedit of his DDDEFs, I would
 look very closely at which libraries are actually being used and updated by
 this SMP/E running. An inadvertent mixing of LE levels is scary.

  Hi Dave,
 Yes this might very well be the issue. Just concentrating on the first
 module that causes the problem, I suggest that OP do an amblist and send
 the output to the list. This output should have rent (bit 0), reuse (bit
 1), and refr (bit 15) set.

 //LIST EXEC PGM=AMBLIST
 //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
 //SCEELKED DD  DSN=SYS1.SCEELKED,DISP=SHR
 //SYSINDD  *
  LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
 /*

 Doug

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
Below Output,

 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
00060001
  *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y  *
MEMBER NAME:  EDC@@248
LIBRARY:  SCEELKED
** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE
   ** STRXFRM   31

     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE   
**   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS
  0  RENT 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY
  4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
  8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO
  12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL

MODULE SSI:NONE
APFCODE:   
RMODE: ANY
LONGPARM:  NO

   *LOAD MODULE PROCESSED EITHER BY VS LINKAGE EDITOR
OR BIN
 NUMERICAL MAP AND CROSS-REFERENCE LIST OF LOAD
MODU

 CONTROL SECTION
 ENTRY
  LMOD LOC NAME  LENGTH  TYPE
 LMOD LO
   00STRXFRM 0A   SD
LENGTH OF LOAD MODULE  10
ALPHABETICAL MAP OF LOAD MODULE EDC@
@248

   CONTROL SECTIONENTRY
   NAME LMOD LOC   LENGTH  TYPE  NAME
 LMO
 STRXFRM 000A   SD
**END OF MAP AND CROSS-REFERENCE LISTING
 BOTTOM OF DATA





On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Mainframe Mainframe mainframe1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Below O/P for AMBLIST




 On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com wrote:

 On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:23:25 +, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:

 I could be way off base, but given that the OP just finished a thread
 where the solution was a mass/conditional zoneedit of his DDDEFs, I would
 look very closely at which libraries are actually being used and updated by
 this SMP/E running. An inadvertent mixing of LE levels is scary.

  Hi Dave,
 Yes this might very well be the issue. Just concentrating on the first
 module that causes the problem, I suggest that OP do an amblist and send
 the output to the list. This output should have rent (bit 0), reuse (bit
 1), and refr (bit 15) set.

 //LIST EXEC PGM=AMBLIST
 //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
 //SCEELKED DD  DSN=SYS1.SCEELKED,DISP=SHR
 //SYSINDD  *
  LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
 /*

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
There were two things in the job run I was able to see.  Let me know if this 
might be part of the issue

First - should you code BYPASS(HOLDS(...) HOLDE(...) )??  I always thought you 
should let HOLDERROR alone unless you have a fixing PTF from IBM.  Though I 
could be wrong.


BYPASS(HOLDSYS(DOC,IPL,RESTART,ACTION,ENH,DEP,AO,MSGSKEL,MULTSYS,   
   
   DYNACT,EC,DB2BIND,EXIT,DELETE,DDDEF)  
HOLDERROR(AA45207,AA45706,AA45113,AA44153,AA45166,AA44844,AA45744))  

Second
 IEW2322I 1220  923NAME CEEPLPKA(R)   MAX ACCEPTABLE 
RC=00   
 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEARLU UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
 
 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL CEEBLLST UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.   
 
 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL STRFTIME UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.   
 
 IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL LOCALECO UNRESOLVED.  NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.   



I think the fact that CEEPLPKA sets max cc as 0 is the issue for UI18451

Let me know if I am closer to the resolution.

Lizette



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 Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E
 
 On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:55:32 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:
 
 I see some more warning message before this error message like ...
  GIM23913WLINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UA72482 WAS
 SUCCESSFUL FOR
 MODULE
   CBRICMMN IN LMOD CBRINIT0 IN THE LPALIB LIBRARY. THE
 RETURN CODE
   WAS 04. DATE 14.247 - TIME 02:35:21 - SEQUENCE NUMBER
 87
   SYSPRINT FILE SMP00040.
  ...
 
 That's from SMPOUT, not Binder SYSPRINT.  Are you viewing your output with
 SDSF?  If so, open the job with ? rather than S and go directly to 
 SMP00040 (I
 believe (E)JES has a similar feature, perhaps different syntax).  Try FIND
 p'IEWW' (IIRC correctly the ISPF syntax -- help!?)
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 21:13:31 +0530, Mainframe Mainframe wrote:
 
  Hello Rob,
In my case LKED entry in SMPE is set to 04.
  
  Binder SYSPRINT (perhaps in your case SMP00030) should tell you:
 
 Oops!  I meant SMP00040.
 
  o The maximum RC specified on the NAME statement (IIRC, SMP/E
converts that to a comment).
 
  o The actual return code from the bind operation (look near the bottom).
 
  o Message codes, , of Warning severity.  Search backward for
IEWW.
 
 --gil
 

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Re: RSU APPLY ISSUE GIM23911E

2014-09-04 Thread Anthony Thompson
Our apply of UI18451 got a binder RC of zero.

AMBLIST of STRXFRM is somewhat different, both it and EDS@@248 are aliases of 
EDC4$09E: 

LISTLOAD DDN=DD1,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF 
  
 *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y  *  
   
   MEMBER NAME:  EDC4$09E   
MAIN ENTRY POINT:  
   LIBRARY:  DD1 (-- i.e. SYS1.SCEELKED  Ant.)
AMODE OF MAIN ENTRY POINT: 31  
   ** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE  
   
 EDC@@248  31   
   
  ** STRXFRM   31   
   
---
    ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE    
   
   **   BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS BIT  STATUS 
BIT  STATUS   **   
 0  RENT 1  REUS 2  NOT-OVLY
 3  NOT-TEST   
 4  NOT-OL   5  BLOCK6  EXEC
 7  1-TXT  
 8  NOT-DC   9  ZERO-ORG 10 EP-ZERO 
 11 NO-RLD 
 12 EDIT 13 NO-SYMS  14 F-LEVEL 
 15 REFR   
---
   MODULE SSI:NONE  
   
 APFCODE:   
 
 RMODE: ANY 
 
 LONGPARM:  NO  
 

 

 
  *LOAD MODULE PROCESSED EITHER BY VS LINKAGE EDITOR OR 
BINDER 
NUMERICAL MAP AND CROSS-REFERENCE LIST OF LOAD 
MODULE EDC4$09EPAGE 0001

   
CONTROL SECTIONENTRY
   
 LMOD LOC NAME  LENGTH  TYPELMOD 
LOC  CSECT LOC  NAME  
  00STRXFRM 0A   SD 
   
LENGTH OF LOAD MODULE  10   

   ALPHABETICAL MAP OF LOAD MODULE EDC4$09E 
  PAGE 0002

   
  CONTROL SECTIONENTRY  
   
  NAME LMOD LOC   LENGTH  TYPE  NAME
LMOD LOC  CSECT LOC  CSECT NAME
STRXFRM 000A   SD   
   
**END OF MAP AND CROSS-REFERENCE LISTING


Only z/OS 2.1 here, no prior z/OS to compare it to.

Ant.

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Below Output,

 LISTLOAD DDN=SCEELKED,MEMBER=STRXFRM,OUTPUT=XREF
00060001
  *  M O D U L E   S U M M A R Y  *
MEMBER NAME:  EDC@@248
LIBRARY:  SCEELKED
** ALIASES **  ENTRY POINTAMODE
   ** STRXFRM   31

     ATTRIBUTES OF MODULE