Re: z/vm page packs at DR
Well… since we do not have tape drives available to our IFL, SPXTAPE, every night, is not feasible right now. I can “steal” a drive from z/os when necessary but not every night. It’s a good plan for when we get our VTS (in the works now) and have tape drives available all the time. We currently have 11 page packs but when I bring up 6.1, there will be 15 or so… We’re not heavy into Linux (yet) so DR has been kind of lackadaisical (sp?) at best… I think I’ll stick to the restore for now, but keep all these great suggestions for later! Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/vm page packs at DR NSSes (e.g. CMS, CMSFILES, CMSPIPES, and may more) can easily be backed up using SPXTAPE to write them to tape (preferably every night). Thus the restore at DR is pretty simple (as long as you are very careful to send a copy of the tapes off-site, along with a hardcopy listing of which NSS tape volsers were created on which date). Back when we conducted offsite DR tests, we did just that. The SPOOL volumes at D.R. were created by an EXEC that would autolog a string of userids that had just been added by another EXEC to the DR floor system’s directory. Those autologs permitted concurrent formatting of many DASD, Each autologed ID (conveniently named ‘-volser-‘ where the ‘volser’ was the volume serial number of the volume to be formatted), would format its specific SPOOL, PAGE, or TDISK volume (naturally, just cylinder zero of TDISK vols). A follow-up step instructed how to restore the NSSes from the SPXTAPE backup. A cleanup exec at the end of the D.R. test would carefully delete the ID’s we had added to the floor system’s directory, along with any EXECs and control files that we had added. Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Hans Rempel Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/vm page packs at DR Hi Anne: I have never been in a real DR situation but enough DRs were we did have a time limit to complete. Today we have high capacity/fast tapes so I would follow Clovis suggestion. Start tape restores and put your feet up or ready yourself for the VM IPL once VM base system is restored. One thing you need to consider are the Saved Segments which are in SPOOL space. When the system is shipped most if not all are on the spool section of VM sysres. If any of these get re-saved (via service) they may end up on any SPOOL volume. Therefore make sure all your spool volumes are available before IPL –or be prepared to resave missing segments which is not a good idea in a pressure situation. VM will use SPOOL for paging if not enough PAGE space is available. PAGE is not as critical as SPOOL and can be added later sometime shortly after the IPL (before IPLing of your production systems – since running out of SPOOL space is very bad) using some automated CMS service machine/exec. You need to consider the number of page volumes versus backup time/tape usage. If you have 4 or 5 page volumes I would backup. If you have 20 pages volumes I would consider an exec to reformat them at the DR site. Hans From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Crabtree, Anne D Sent: August-09-11 9:34 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/vm page packs at DR Good point.. Maybe I’ll continue to back them up but for the test, I could IPL as soon as I have one restored (if needed). Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/vm page packs at DR Anne: I worked with Disaster Recovery for about 10 years. Some observations: Real DR are different than Test DR: the major factor is Time. On a real disaster you don't have time to think, to plan, to execute... And have a lot of persons making pressure... So, the tip is: use the maximum of automation possible. If you have a MVS at the DR site, explore it. From my experience, restore page volumes from tape is faster than format them. You can run several restore Jobs in parallel. To be faster, you can start with a one Page volume and one spool volume, (according to Rick's suggestion: a small spool volume with only the SDF) After the VM IPL, you can add page/spool volumes on fly. Working with tapes, one VM can be live in less than 10 minutes, and you
page pack question
I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: page pack question
Yea, the only thing is that once I add them as CPOWNED on my 6.1 system (which I'd have to do while up on level 2), I would not be able to ipl it second level if I had to go back to 5.4. Then what would I do? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: page pack question
Ok, I think I'll go that route... and as someone else suggested, I can always access my 6.1 system config from my 5.4 system if I needed to change it... Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question That's reasonable. As long as the 5.4 system isn't using them at the same time. That would be 'bad'. On 07/12/2011 09:53 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: How about I bring up 6.1 with the couple of 6.1 page packs I can define and then add the 5.4 ones on the fly? (attach them to system, define cpowned, etc) That way they would not be in the system config and I could still bring 6.1 up on second level if necessary. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:50 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: page pack question As long as they're not in use at the same time... no problem at all. On 07/12/2011 09:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I installed release 6.1 of z/vm but I don't have enough mod 3's to label as page packs to match the 5.4 system. Is there any reason that I can't use the 5.4 page packs when I ipl 6.1 on level 1? On z/os, this is what I always do but on z/vm I usually define new page packs (ie 610pag, 610pg1, etc..) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. http://www.velocitysoftware.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2012 - April 13-17, 2012 Covington, KY
Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux
Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_897C82FC69765D45A301AF8F5D1210CB09BF7F6COTB6MAIL01execu_ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sophos-ESA: [mx6.uark.edu] 3.6.9.0, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.1390750, Antispam-Data: 2011.5.9.145714 --_000_897C82FC69765D45A301AF8F5D1210CB09BF7F6COTB6MAIL01execu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1.The cabling appears fine. 2. Our Ficon Express 8 is LX (long wave) and open system guy says s= witch is: Make: EMC (Brocade) Model: DS-5100 Firmware: 6.1.0c NPIV Enabled Port He says optics are short wave and there is no such thing as long wave? 3. He says there are not errors on switch that the port is not negoti= ating at all. 4. As he says above NPIV is enabled on switch. Fabric Login Status ha= s *** in all fields. So with that being said, it appears the optics are the problem? Do you agr= ee that there is no such thing as long wave on open system switches? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Beh= alf Of Raymond Higgs Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 05/06/2011= 07:51:57 AM: From: Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 05/06/2011 07:53 AM Subject: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I posted this on IBM-MAIN with not much response so hoping someone on z/VM might be able to help. Opened a PMR with IBM software but they feel it is a hardware issue. Waiting for information on switch before contacting IBM hardware folks... We have a z10 in which I have defined 2 FCP chpids on our FICON Express8 cards. These chpids have NPIV enabled and I have provided the open system team with the WWPN's that were generated. The FCP chpids are dedicated to our 1 Linux IFL. We have connected the fiber, but the chpid, while staying ONLINE, gets a SEQUENCE TIME-OUT on the HMC. The light is on on the mainframe side, but not on the switch. The open system team tells me that there is nothing for them to do on their side until they can see the mainframe (light comes on?). In z/VM, the chips appear fine, defined as FCP with devices attached and FREE. I'm not sure what else I can do from the mainframe side to help the situation? I am not involved in the Linux portion but the Linux guy says he can't see the luns from Linux. Both sides appear to be waiting on me to fix things! The SCSI is a CLARiiON CX-700 with FLARE (operating system) version 26 revision 31 (02.26.700.5.031) which is the latest release for the CX-700 product line. Anne, The bad news is that we don't support EMC Clariion, but I have heard accoun= ts of it working just fine. Since you are having problems between the chan= nel and switch, you still will be able to get some IBM support. I'd check = these things: * Double check the cabling between the channel and the switch. Is the chan= nel really plugged into the switch port that you think it is? * Make sure that the optics in the switch, the optics in the channel, and t= he fibre are either all long wave or all short wave. No mixing. * Check the switch for bit errors. If the switch is seeing bit errors, it = may have disabled the port on you. Or even simpler, was the switch port ev= er online? * Is NPIV enabled on your switch? There is a panel on the SE called Fabric= Login Status that may have some clues... Use the HMC to do single object = operatings to your z10 CPC. Navigate to your channel. It doesn't matter i= f it is the chpid or pchid. Find channel operations in the menus (I'm us= ed to classic mode so I use those arrows to cycle through the right hand pa= nel. Use channel problem determination. You might have to select an lpa= r at this point. Then Fabric login Status This panel shows a bunch = of fibre channel info from the channel about how it is logged into your swi= tch fabric. There might be some error messages here. Regards, Ray Higgs System z FCP Firmware Development Bld. 706, B42 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666 rayhi...@us.ibm.com --_000_897C82FC69765D45A301AF8F5D1210CB09BF7F6COTB6MAIL01execu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable html xmlns:v=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml xmlns:o=3Durn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office xmlns:w=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word = xmlns:x=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel xmlns:p=3Durn:schemas-m= icrosoft-com:office:powerpoint xmlns:a=3Durn:schemas
Re: Using EMC Clarion SCSI disk with Linux
You probably saw other post, but our open system guy says there's no such thing as long wave on switches? Do you have an opinion on that? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Using EMC Clarion SCSI disk with Linux We connected our z9 to a Clarion a couple of years ago for POC testing only. I seem to remember something that the Clarion needed the z9 to attempt the connect , then they could authorize it and finally we were able to connect. (But these are vague memories - but I so remember a multi-step procedure). The Clarion is now de-installed but I believe the FCP chipid's are still there if you need me to look at something. Jerry Whitteridge Design Engineer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Higgs Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 10:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 05/06/2011 12:58:23 PM: From: Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 05/06/2011 01:02 PM Subject: Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Thank you Ray. Will verify these things and get back to you (probably next week). Thank you Heiko. Will research these as well. Can you tell me where speed is defined? I appreciate the responses. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Higgs [rayhi...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 05/ 06/2011 07:51:57 AM: From: Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 05/06/2011 07:53 AM Subject: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I posted this on IBM-MAIN with not much response so hoping someone on z/VM might be able to help. Opened a PMR with IBM software but they feel it is a hardware issue. Waiting for information on switch before contacting IBM hardware folks... We have a z10 in which I have defined 2 FCP chpids on our FICON Express8 cards. These chpids have NPIV enabled and I have provided the open system team with the WWPN's that were generated. The FCP chpids are dedicated to our 1 Linux IFL. We have connected the fiber, but the chpid, while staying ONLINE, gets a SEQUENCE TIME-OUT on the HMC. The light is on on the mainframe side, but not on the switch. The open system team tells me that there is nothing for them to do on their side until they can see the mainframe (light comes on?). In z/VM, the chips appear fine, defined as FCP with devices attached and FREE. I'm not sure what else I can do from the mainframe side to help the situation? I am not involved in the Linux portion but the Linux guy says he can't see the luns from Linux. Both sides appear to be waiting on me to fix things! The SCSI is a CLARiiON CX-700 with FLARE (operating system) version 26 revision 31 (02.26.700.5.031) which is the latest release for the CX-700 product line. Anne, The bad news is that we don't support EMC Clariion, but I have heard accounts of it working just fine. Since you are having problems between the channel and switch, you still will be able to get some IBM support. I'd check these things: * Double check the cabling between the channel and the switch. Is the channel really plugged into the switch port that you think it is? * Make sure that the optics in the switch, the optics in the channel, and the fibre are either all long wave or all short wave. No mixing. * Check the switch for bit errors. If the switch is seeing bit errors, it may have disabled the port on you. Or even simpler, was the switch port ever online? * Is NPIV enabled on your switch? There is a panel on the SE called Fabric Login Status that may have some clues... Use the HMC to do single object operatings to your z10 CPC. Navigate to your channel. It doesn't matter if it is the chpid or pchid. Find channel operations in the menus (I'm used to classic mode so I use those arrows to cycle through the right hand panel. Use channel problem determination. You might have to select an lpar at this point. Then Fabric login Status This panel shows a bunch of fibre channel info from the channel about how it is logged into your switch fabric. There might be some error messages here. Regards, Ray Higgs System z
Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux
Thank you everyone for all the help! At least we know where to start... Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 12:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux I think you need the 3326. FICON Express8 10KM LX (FC 3325) All the channels on a single FICON Express8 10KM LX feature are the same type, 10KM LX. FICON Express8 10KM LX utilizes a long wavelength (LX) laser as the optical transceiver and supports use of a 9 micron single mode fiber optic cable terminated with an LC duplex connector. FICON Express8 10KM LX supports unrepeated distances up to 10 km (6.2 miles). FICON Express8 10KM LX (CHPID type FC or FCP) can be defined as a spanned channel and can be shared among LPARs within and across LCSS. FICON Express8 SX (FC 3326) All the channels on a single FICON Express8 SX feature are the same type, SX. FICON Express8 SX utilizes a short wavelength (SX) laser as the optical transceiver and supports use of a 50 micron multimode fiber optic cable or a 62.5 micron multimode fiber optic cable terminated with an LC duplex connector. Note: You cannot mix 50 and 62.5 micron multimode fiber optic cabling in the same link. For details about the unrepeated distances for FICON Express8 SX, refer to IBM System z Planning for Fiber Optic Links. Marcy From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Crabtree, Anne D Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux Our Ficon Express 8 is 3325 type 10KM LX 4 ports. It is the only type we have. I'm assuming it is only capable of long wave. Is that correct? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Higgs Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux Anne, Mixing long and short wave is definitely your problem. It makes sense that the switch isn't negotiating at all. When the optics/cables are mismatched, the ports can't get word sync and can't even start sending ordered sets to do speed negotiation. A quick google search says that long wave is supported by that switch: http://www.brocade.com/downloads/documents/data_sheets/product_data_sheets/5100-DS-04.pdf Media types 8 Gbps: Requires Brocade hot-pluggable SFP+, LC connector; 8 Gbps Short-Wavelength Laser (SWL); 8 Gbps Long-Wavelength Laser (LWL); distance depends on fiber-optic cable and port speed 4 Gbps: Requires Brocade hot-pluggable, Small Form-factor Pluggable (SFP), LC connector; 4 Gbps Short-Wavelength Laser (SWL); 4 Gbps Long-Wavelength Laser (LWL); 4 Gbps Extended Long-Wavelength Laser (ELWL); distance depends on fiber-optic cable and port speed I don't know why he would say that long wave doesn't exist. Maybe he really means that they don't have any long wave in that switch. Long wave optics are usually more expensive... Our Ficon Express 8 cards support both long and short wave. Maybe you have some other channels that are short wave that you could use instead. Regards, Ray Higgs System z FCP Firmware Development Bld. 706, B42 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666 rayhi...@us.ibm.com F6COTB6MAIL01execu_--
Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux
I posted this on IBM-MAIN with not much response so hoping someone on z/VM might be able to help. Opened a PMR with IBM software but they feel it is a hardware issue. Waiting for information on switch before contacting IBM hardware folks... We have a z10 in which I have defined 2 FCP chpids on our FICON Express8 cards. These chpids have NPIV enabled and I have provided the open system team with the WWPN's that were generated. The FCP chpids are dedicated to our 1 Linux IFL. We have connected the fiber, but the chpid, while staying ONLINE, gets a SEQUENCE TIME-OUT on the HMC. The light is on on the mainframe side, but not on the switch. The open system team tells me that there is nothing for them to do on their side until they can see the mainframe (light comes on?). In z/VM, the chips appear fine, defined as FCP with devices attached and FREE. I'm not sure what else I can do from the mainframe side to help the situation? I am not involved in the Linux portion but the Linux guy says he can't see the luns from Linux. Both sides appear to be waiting on me to fix things! The SCSI is a CLARiiON CX-700 with FLARE (operating system) version 26 revision 31 (02.26.700.5.031) which is the latest release for the CX-700 product line.
Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux
Thank you Ray. Will verify these things and get back to you (probably next week). Thank you Heiko. Will research these as well. Can you tell me where speed is defined? I appreciate the responses. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Raymond Higgs [rayhi...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 05/06/2011 07:51:57 AM: From: Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 05/06/2011 07:53 AM Subject: Using EMC Clariion SCSI disk with Linux Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU I posted this on IBM-MAIN with not much response so hoping someone on z/VM might be able to help. Opened a PMR with IBM software but they feel it is a hardware issue. Waiting for information on switch before contacting IBM hardware folks... We have a z10 in which I have defined 2 FCP chpids on our FICON Express8 cards. These chpids have NPIV enabled and I have provided the open system team with the WWPN's that were generated. The FCP chpids are dedicated to our 1 Linux IFL. We have connected the fiber, but the chpid, while staying ONLINE, gets a SEQUENCE TIME-OUT on the HMC. The light is on on the mainframe side, but not on the switch. The open system team tells me that there is nothing for them to do on their side until they can see the mainframe (light comes on?). In z/VM, the chips appear fine, defined as FCP with devices attached and FREE. I'm not sure what else I can do from the mainframe side to help the situation? I am not involved in the Linux portion but the Linux guy says he can't see the luns from Linux. Both sides appear to be waiting on me to fix things! The SCSI is a CLARiiON CX-700 with FLARE (operating system) version 26 revision 31 (02.26.700.5.031) which is the latest release for the CX-700 product line. Anne, The bad news is that we don't support EMC Clariion, but I have heard accounts of it working just fine. Since you are having problems between the channel and switch, you still will be able to get some IBM support. I'd check these things: * Double check the cabling between the channel and the switch. Is the channel really plugged into the switch port that you think it is? * Make sure that the optics in the switch, the optics in the channel, and the fibre are either all long wave or all short wave. No mixing. * Check the switch for bit errors. If the switch is seeing bit errors, it may have disabled the port on you. Or even simpler, was the switch port ever online? * Is NPIV enabled on your switch? There is a panel on the SE called Fabric Login Status that may have some clues... Use the HMC to do single object operatings to your z10 CPC. Navigate to your channel. It doesn't matter if it is the chpid or pchid. Find channel operations in the menus (I'm used to classic mode so I use those arrows to cycle through the right hand panel. Use channel problem determination. You might have to select an lpar at this point. Then Fabric login Status This panel shows a bunch of fibre channel info from the channel about how it is logged into your switch fabric. There might be some error messages here. Regards, Ray Higgs System z FCP Firmware Development Bld. 706, B42 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666 rayhi...@us.ibm.com
Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation
I haven't seen previous posts, but did you link to TCPMAINT 592? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Sherry Everhart Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation Syntax has been corrected. THANKS, Alan. But it's still not working for me. With the userid and password the network folks gave me, I am already in = the cpdvd directory on the FTP Server, where all the files I'm supposed t= o copy reside. So I figured I could omit the -d parameter (right?): pipe ftpget -h xxx.xx.x.xx -u x -p x -v BEF -DVDEOF -f CKD222= * |UNPACK| ECKDREST CKD222* DMSRXS1408W File TCPIP DATA * not found EXPECTED RESPONSE '125' BUT GOT 550 CKD22200: Access is denied. INSTEA= D. FTPGET FAILED WITH RC=-120 Ready(-0120); If I include the -d parameter: pipe ftpget -h xxx.xx.x.xx -u x -p x -d -v BEF -DVDEOF -f CKD222* |UNPACK| ECKDREST UNRECOGNIZED OPTION: BEF FTPGET FAILED WITH RC=-101 Ready(-0101); I have a read/write minidisk with exactly 5 cylinders since I'm installing to 3390: query v DASD 3390 EM0F05 R/W 5 CYL ON DASD 0F05 SUBCHANNEL = 000= 1 Ready; What am I doing wrong?? Sherry
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
As you can see, I did not get your screen shots :( Would you mind sending them to me direct (maybe as an attachment) to anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov In the meantime, here's what I have for OS config (new VM one): Å¢¢¢ Change Operating System Configuration ¢¢¢ ... ... ... Specify or revise the following value. ... ... OS configuration ID . . . . : ZVMIFL ... Operating system type . . . : VM ... ... Description . . . . . . . . . ... ... ... Ä¢ I/O Device ListRow 1 of 2 More: Command === ___ Scroll === PAGE Select one or more devices, then press Enter. To add, use F11. Configuration ID . . : ZVMIFL --Device- --#--- Control Unit Numbers + / Number Type +SS CSS OS D L 1--- 2--- 3--- 4--- 5--- 6--- 7--- 8--- _ 3000,254 FCP 1 1 _ _ 3000 _ 3100,254 FCP 1 1 _ _ 3100 I defined two channel paths (43 and C3) like I showed you below, two control units, and 254 devices on each control unit. However, when I choose option 3 from main menu to print the config, the only thing on the report for ZVMIFL relating to the FCP stuff is : VM DEVICE REPORT OPERATING SYSTEM CONFIGURATION ID: ZVMIFL DEV#,RANGE TYPE-MODEL SS BASE CLASS VIRTUIM-NAME __ __ __ _ 3000,254 FCP SPECIAL CBDUS254 3100,254 FCP SPECIAL CBDUS254 I can't see chpids or control units or devices on the regular reports(summary or detail). This doesn't seem right to me but I'm grasping here. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:25 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM That all looks good. How about the OS config? I'm including the dev screen shots for us and os config - This is for FCP E800 attached to two z/VM lpars - [cid:part1.08090105.06000508@psu.edu] [cid:part2.04080208.07060604@psu.edu] [cid:part3.04080004.02040801@psu.edu] [cid:part4.01040906.03090702@psu.edu] On 2/18/2011 12:33 PM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: Thought this might help: Specify or revise the following values. Processor ID . . . . : Z10 Z10 2098 V02 MACHINE Configuration mode . : LPAR Channel Subsystem ID : 0 Channel path ID . . . . 43+PCHID . . . 1B0 Channel path type . . . FCP + Operation mode . . . . . SHR + Managed . . . . . . . . No (Yes or No) I/O Cluster + Description . . . . . . EMC CELERRA Z/VM IFL Specify the following values only if connected to a switch: Dynamic entry switch ID __ + (00 - FF) Entry switch ID . . . . __ + Entry port . . . . . . . __ + ¢¢¢ Define Access List ¢¢ Row 1 of Command === _ Scroll === PAGE Select one or more partitions for inclusion in the access list. Channel subsystem ID : 0 Channel path ID . . : 43 Channel path type . : FCP Operation mode . . . : SHRNumber of CHPIDs . . : 1 / CSS ID Partition Name Number Usage Description _ 0 IPO1 1 OS _ 0 IPO2 4 OSIPO2 / 0 LINUX3 OSlinux _ 0 TEST 2 OS _ 0 WVCF 5 CF Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I do not connect them to my z/OS LPARs under my z/OS contolled HCD. I do however, create VM OS LPARs under my z/OS controlled HCD and connect my FCP chpds/dev to VM only. On the chpid itself I only code VM access. I don't even put MVS as a candidate. On 2/18/2011 11:49 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: So, you don't connect them to your operating system config under z/os in HCD, you just define them
Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
So, you don't connect them to your operating system config under z/os in HCD, you just define them there and then connect on the VM side under VM? (boy that question even confuses me..lol Hope you know what I'm asking!) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I define mine under my z/OS system config. So I have MVS lpars and VM lpars and I only connect the FCP chpids and devs to VM. On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
I've tried several times and each time I start over but here's the jist of it: 1.Define os config of type VM 2.Modify the FC chipids I want to use from FC to FCP 3. Add control units as type FCP 4. Add devices and attach to those control units with type FCP If I then print a config report for MVS and VM, they are not at all what I thought they should be. MVS omits all of them but so does VM report? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I don't remember any worms with mine. Seemed pretty straight forward. Defined any ckd chpds to have z/VM access ( sharing with z/OS). Then any consoles and such. What kinda worms if I may ask? On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
yes Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 12:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM How about on option 2 when you modified the FC chpids to be FCP, did you also just give access to your VM partition under that chpid? On 2/18/2011 12:04 PM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I've tried several times and each time I start over but here's the jist of it: Define os config of type VM Modify the FC chipids I want to use from FC to FCP Add control units as type FCP Add devices and attach to those control units with type FCP If I then print a config report for MVS and VM, they are not at all what I thought they should be. MVS omits all of them but so does VM report? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:49 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I don't remember any worms with mine. Seemed pretty straight forward. Defined any ckd chpds to have z/VM access ( sharing with z/OS). Then any consoles and such. What kinda worms if I may ask? On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: When I try to do a second os config of type VM, I open up a whole other can of worms. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define any VM lpars as type VM. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Brian France b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu wrote: I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 b...@psu.edumailto:b...@psu.edu To make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Carl Sagan
Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM
Thought this might help: Specify or revise the following values. Processor ID . . . . : Z10 Z10 2098 V02 MACHINE Configuration mode . : LPAR Channel Subsystem ID : 0 Channel path ID . . . . 43+PCHID . . . 1B0 Channel path type . . . FCP + Operation mode . . . . . SHR + Managed . . . . . . . . No (Yes or No) I/O Cluster + Description . . . . . . EMC CELERRA Z/VM IFL Specify the following values only if connected to a switch: Dynamic entry switch ID __ + (00 - FF) Entry switch ID . . . . __ + Entry port . . . . . . . __ + ¢¢¢ Define Access List ¢¢ Row 1 of Command === _ Scroll === PAGE Select one or more partitions for inclusion in the access list. Channel subsystem ID : 0 Channel path ID . . : 43 Channel path type . : FCP Operation mode . . . : SHRNumber of CHPIDs . . : 1 / CSS ID Partition Name Number Usage Description _ 0 IPO1 1 OS _ 0 IPO2 4 OSIPO2 / 0 LINUX3 OSlinux _ 0 TEST 2 OS _ 0 WVCF 5 CF Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:57 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I do not connect them to my z/OS LPARs under my z/OS contolled HCD. I do however, create VM OS LPARs under my z/OS controlled HCD and connect my FCP chpds/dev to VM only. On the chpid itself I only code VM access. I don't even put MVS as a candidate. On 2/18/2011 11:49 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: So, you don't connect them to your operating system config under z/os in HCD, you just define them there and then connect on the VM side under VM? (boy that question even confuses me..lol Hope you know what I'm asking!) Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I define mine under my z/OS system config. So I have MVS lpars and VM lpars and I only connect the FCP chpids and devs to VM. On 2/18/2011 11:25 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: I am running Linux under z/vm. Maybe I don't care if the devices connect to my os config? That's where the problem pops up. It actually let me define them, it just won't let me connect them to the os config. Opinions? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian France Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM I make mine VM. Are you running VM or just linux in an lpar? On 2/18/2011 11:15 AM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: It won't let me define FCP devices on the z/os side because my config is type MVS. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUmailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Defining FCP devices to z/VM Define CHPID, Control Unit, and I/O Devices all as type FCP. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.govmailto:anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: I maintain one operating system configuration in z/OS HCD which includes my z/OS lpars, as well as, my linux ifl. If I want to access storage on a FCP device from the linux IFL, what, specifically, do I have to add to HCD on the z/OS side? (just channel paths?) What, specifically, so I have to add to SYSTEM CONFIG on the z/VM side? (EDEVICE statements?) Does anyone know if any of the SHARE sessions (in Anaheim) would help me address this? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- -- Brian W. France Systems Administrator (Mainframe) Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure/SYSARC Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa
PSP bucket site
To review PSP bucket for z/osk I usually go to the following site (I thought): HTTPS:/TECHSUPPORT/SERVICES.IBM.COM/SERVER/390.PSP390 I get a Web page not found screen. Has this changed or have I typed something wrong?? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: Unsubscribe
You may leave the list at any time by sending a SIGNOFF VMESA-L command to lists...@listserv.uark.edu. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Matthias Erlacher Sent: Tue 3/31/2009 6:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Unsubscribe Hello Friends, I bekome just up to now mails from IBMVM and IBMTCP-L because of a change in our mailing system I have to unsubscribe these two letters. I hope You can help me with my problem, otherwise I beg You for an address or You can reroute my mail to this address. Thanks a lot. Regards Matthias Erlacher Mit freundlichen Gruessen / kind regards Matthias Erlacher Datenverarbeitungs-Kaufmann Fachgruppenleiter / Supervisor ITI3 Zentrale Server Fachgruppe Z/OS Tel.: +49 (0)711/911-25133 Fax: +49 (0)711/911-26293 Email: matthias.erlac...@porsche.de PIKS GmbH Von: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] Im Auftrag von O'Brien, Dennis L Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. März 2009 01:52 An: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Betreff: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation Steve, You can do a first-level install if you're willing to shut your VM system down, or you have an extra LPAR to run the install in. Dennis O'Brien If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:12 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation First level would imply, to me, that you do not have a running VM system. Second level would imply that you do have running VM system. So, which do you have? I usually do the 2nd level install, since we are already running vm and use I an FTP server. I use Bullet Proof FTP from my windows machine and am able to install with no problem. It took about 3 hours once I got all the required install parameters (that VM asks for) typed in. To the list. Can you do a first level install if you currently have a VM system running, so long as you don't use the same disk addresses and volids of the current running system? Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation
We have z/os running on an lpar and z/vm running on an IFL. I just used z/os as my ftp server to install second level. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Mon 3/30/2009 7:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM 5.4 first/second level installation Steve, You can do a first-level install if you're willing to shut your VM system down, or you have an extra LPAR to run the install in. Dennis O'Brien If I'd only followed CNBC's advice, I'd have $1 million today, provided I'd started with $100 million. -- Jon Stewart From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gentry, Stephen Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 13:12 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM 5.4 first/second level installation First level would imply, to me, that you do not have a running VM system. Second level would imply that you do have running VM system. So, which do you have? I usually do the 2nd level install, since we are already running vm and use I an FTP server. I use Bullet Proof FTP from my windows machine and am able to install with no problem. It took about 3 hours once I got all the required install parameters (that VM asks for) typed in. To the list. Can you do a first level install if you currently have a VM system running, so long as you don't use the same disk addresses and volids of the current running system? Steve From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of joe.dipi...@frit.frb.org Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VM 5.4 first/second level installation List Members, I can use some expert advice as a first time installer of z/VM. After reading the Guide for Automated Installation and Service, I had decided on using the Second-Level DVD Installation method from VM Minidisk. Although, after making a simple calculation, I realized that it would take me about 80 hours to upload all the DVD files to the First-Level minidisk. Given that my 3270 emulation program (Extra) does not support file lists, I decided to abandon this idea. Since we do not have an FTP server attached to our VM systems I thought that a First-Level DVD Installation from the HMC would make more sense. My goal would be to install first-level and then test second-level. I am not certain as to whether or not this sounds reasonable and if there is some who would provide some guidance as to how this could be accomplished. Pointing out a manual reference would be most helpful but any and all suggestions are welcomed. Joseph Di Pippo Operating Systems Programmer III FRIT Computing Services Hardware Support 1-201-531-3820
install z/vm 5.4
I've downloaded z/vm 5.4 and unzipped it. Uploaded to z/os and put in a ZFS file. Now, I'm trying to issue the pipe command on my VMTEST54 userid on z/vm to get it from z/os to z/vm. Unfortunately, my userid on z/os is sy#0911. The pipe command seems to not like the #. Is there some way I can make it accept that userid in the pipe command? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: install z/vm 5.4
Thanks! That did it Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: install z/vm 5.4 CP TERM LINEND OFF -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]on Behalf Of Crabtree, Anne D Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:47 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: install z/vm 5.4 I've downloaded z/vm 5.4 and unzipped it. Uploaded to z/os and put in a ZFS file. Now, I'm trying to issue the pipe command on my VMTEST54 userid on z/vm to get it from z/os to z/vm. Unfortunately, my userid on z/os is sy#0911. The pipe command seems to not like the #. Is there some way I can make it accept that userid in the pipe command? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
How z/vm data gets on SMF
Recently sent a tape of SMF data from our machine to IBM for analysis. We have two LPARs (z/os) and an IFL (z/vm). SMF recording on z/os is straight forward. Man files are dumped to the tape from my two lpars when full... IBM provided usage information on our IFL from this tape and I'm not sure how they did that. How did information from z/vm on the IFL get on the SMF tapes created on z/os? Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292 (304)558-1441 fax
Re: SERVICE exec with RSU
I just did service on 5.3. I used the Download Director to get the s?.SHIPDOC etc to my pc. Then I uploaded to the mainframe (binary). You need to use the filetype of SERVLINK when you DETERSE the binary file. Hope that helps. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Goldenberg Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: SERVICE exec with RSU Jim Bohnsack wrote: I received electronic service for z/VM 5.3, RSU 7304. I am not clear on Did you mean 5304? interpreting the installation instructions. I received 4 files: S7858796.SHIPDOC S7858796.SHIPRSU1 S7858796.SHIPRSU2 S7858796.SHIPRSU3 I got mine through SRD and they came as RLST.BIN or RPTF.BIN files that then had to be DETERSEd to .SERVLINK files. Did you get yours through ShopZ? My question or confusion is that is the fname and ftype that the SERVICE exec needs. There are references to the ftype must be SERVLINK. If so what do I do with the dup fnames? I see another reference saying that the ftypes can be in the SHIPRSUn format that I received. I see a reference to the service envelope needs to be on the 500 disk accessed as C and another saying that it needs to be accessed as A. The Guide for Automated Installation and Service says C, but it also says If your media is electronic, follow the instructions that were sent to you electronically. FWIW, when I recently got RSU5304, the 500 disk was Z. I've used SERVICE before but for 7304 I ordered a tape. I don't remember using SERVICE for electronic service with more than one file. What filemode does the service need to be on and what fname and ftype does SERVICE want the files to be? Filemode: anywhere it can find the files; FN and FT, see above. Jim HTH Kim
Re: I know SES can do this - but how?
I may be totally wrong, but I happened to be running service on z/vm 5.3 yesterday and the SERVICE step failed on 4OSASF40 also. I had all userids commented out in my user directory. I just removed comments and did directxa and then restarted service. I figure I can just take them back out when I'm done? Hope that helps. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert J Brenneman Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: I know SES can do this - but how? So I'm in the middle of applying service to a z/VM 5.2 system with the SERVICE exec, and all of a sudden it just stops - it can't find 4OSASF40's 7F00 minidisk. I look at the Volser, and It's one I don't recognize. This is not unusual, since I don't run OSASF at all. It just happens to be installed on this system I'm trying to apply service to. Since I'm sitting in the middle of a failed SERVICE exec process - is there a way I can backtrack and tell SERVICE to skip OSASF? I don't care if it gets this RSU applied or not since I don't run it and I never will. Maybe if I could mark it as already updated or something so that when I do a SERVICE RESTART it just skips it? Thanks, -- Jay Brenneman
