Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
This is what I have found on MAINT 319 minidisk (notes to users), file I5668806 MEMO: [qte] * Installation Section * FORMAT OF THE INSTALLATION TAPE: File 1: I5668806 026012 (Product Identifier file) I5668806 EXEC (Product Installation EXEC) File 2: I5668806 MEMO (Memo to Users) File 3: FORTRAN DEFAULTS (Required default files) [unqte] This file is missing from VSFORT 260 minidisk. Anyone having VS FORTRAN 2 (if any), please kindly have a look if this fi le is available, I am still inclined towards doing it proper way rather than restore SPTAPE with unknown version NSS/DCSS files. Alexey On Tue, 9 May 2006 01:37:35 -0400, Wayne T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot e: When you generate the FORTVS2 MODULE, you are asked (or you specify via parameter, I forget) that you want one big MODULE, or a smaller MODULE and DCSS. We always used to generate and rename each, and had a stub module that would figure out which one to call at run-time. Sorry, I don't recall the DEFAULTS file. cheers, wayne =
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
Just to notify - SPTAPE LOAD worked and I have restored the 'DSSVFORT DCS S' file to NSS spool area, after that VS Fortran 2 seems to work OK, at leas t I managed to run the verification procedure as per SC26-4339 document, which Larry Davis kindly provided link to. Thank you very much for your support, everyone, that really woke up some sort of nostalgy feelings abo ut computers I used to work at university (any PDP11-s left in this world?). I will proceed further to see if there are any other issues down there (aft er making DCSSBKUP, of course), as I have been asked already for a part-time administration of this system. Alexey On Tue, 9 May 2006 00:45:33 -0500, Alexey Bozrikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : [SKIPPED] What I found is an image of a tape (in so-called 'AWS' format), which seems to be SPTAPE-produced for the starter system. I MOVEFILEd some files from it and they seem to be NSS/DCSS files. Hopefully, if nothing has been changed since then I will be able to do an SPTAPE LOAD. I will investigate/report if any success will be achieved. Otherwise VS FORTRAN installation seem to have one file missing (all install EXECs ar e referring to FORTRAN DEFAULTS file, which is being read by EXECIO). Alexey [SKIPPED]
Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangement of SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE diploma, I know, ridiculous) on a VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine an d run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC complains about lack of FORTRAN DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who us ed to support the system left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
You may be just as well off in just forgetting about the DCSS for Fortran. If the bootstrap module or invocation exec just uses the DCSS if one is available and if there is not much or, as in our case, probably no concurrent use of Fortran, there is no savings to be gained. It sounds as if you may be better off chasing a real problem. Jim At 05:08 AM 5/8/2006, Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangement = of=20 SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE diploma, I know, ridiculous) on a=20= VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are=20 available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been=20= doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I=20= have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine an= d=20 run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC complains about lack of FORTRAN= =20 DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who us= ed=20 to support the system left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
Well, I wish they could leave without DCSS, but it seems thet invoking exec/modules does need it. I have tried to compile a 3-line program mysel f and it does not seem to work: [qte] fortvs2 testf DMSILX040E SAVED SEGMENT(S) NOT FOUND. EXECUTION TERMINATED. Ready(00044); T=0.03/0.06 08:40:11 [unqte] Any remedy to this? Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:40:55 -0400, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot e: You may be just as well off in just forgetting about the DCSS for Fortran. If the bootstrap module or invocation exec just uses the DCSS if one is available and if there is not much or, as in our case, probably n o concurrent use of Fortran, there is no savings to be gained. It sounds as if you may be better off chasing a real problem. Jim At 05:08 AM 5/8/2006, Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangemen t = of=20 SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE diploma, I know, ridiculous) on a=20= VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are=20 available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been= 20= doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I=20= have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine an= d=20 run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC complains about lack of FORTR AN= =20 DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who us= ed=20 to support the system left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760 =
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
VM version seems to be (from q cplevel/q cmslevel): 'VM/ESA Version 2 Release 4.0, service level 9903' 'CMS Level 15, Service Level 903' Fortran seems to be (from what I found VSFORT minidisk): 5668806 VS FORTRAN Compiler and Library Ver 2Rel 6 Mod 0 Got no idea about patches/PTFs applied (I am an AIX support engineer, aft er all ;-) Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:12:30 -0400, Davis, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Release of VM are you on? What Release of VS/FORTRAN are you running. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexey Bozrikov Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 05:09 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangement of SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE diploma, I know, ridiculous) on a VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine and run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC complains about lack of FORTRAN DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who used to support the system left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey = ===
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
is fortvs2 a module or an exec on an accessed disk? Gregg No plan survives execution Alexey Bozrikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM To z/VM OperatingIBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU System cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU Subject Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS 05/08/2006 09:32 Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU Well, I wish they could leave without DCSS, but it seems thet invoking exec/modules does need it. I have tried to compile a 3-line program mysel f and it does not seem to work: [qte] fortvs2 testf DMSILX040E SAVED SEGMENT(S) NOT FOUND. EXECUTION TERMINATED. Ready(00044); T=0.03/0.06 08:40:11 [unqte] Any remedy to this? Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:40:55 -0400, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot e: You may be just as well off in just forgetting about the DCSS for Fortran. If the bootstrap module or invocation exec just uses the DCSS if one is available and if there is not much or, as in our case, probably n o concurrent use of Fortran, there is no savings to be gained. It sounds as if you may be better off chasing a real problem. Jim At 05:08 AM 5/8/2006, Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangemen t = of=20 SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE diploma, I know, ridiculous) on a=20= VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are=20 available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been= 20= doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I=20= have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine an= d=20 run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC complains about lack of FORTR AN= =20 DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who us= ed=20 to support the system left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760 =
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
You need to first define the FORTRAN DCSS and then run the Installation exec with the DCSS argument I5668806 DCSS Or I5688087 DCSS I pulled this out of SC26-4339-05 Installation and Customization for CMS manual Larry -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:58 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS Hello, Alexey. I take it that you have the VS Fortran V2 code installed someplace on a minidisk and are just missing the DCSS. This manual has the instructions for defining and creating the Fortran DCSS: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/afbivm00/CCON TENTS I believe you should be able to get your Fortran product back into working condition with the manual's help. Let us know if you need anything else. Good luck. DJ Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Well, I wish they could leave without DCSS, but it seems thet invoking exec/modules does need it. I have tried to compile a 3-line program myself and it does not seem to work: [qte] fortvs2 testf DMSILX040E SAVED SEGMENT(S) NOT FOUND. EXECUTION TERMINATED. Ready(00044); T=0.03/0.06 08:40:11 [unqte] Any remedy to this? Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:40:55 -0400, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be just as well off in just forgetting about the DCSS for Fortran. If the bootstrap module or invocation exec just uses the DCSS if one is available and if there is not much or, as in our case, probably no concurrent use of Fortran, there is no savings to be gained. It sounds as if you may be better off chasing a real problem. Jim At 05:08 AM 5/8/2006, Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangement = of=20 SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE diploma, I know, ridiculous) on a=20= VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are=20 available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been=20= doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I=20= have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine an= d=20 run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC complains about lack of FORTRAN= =20 DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who us= ed=20 to support the system left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760 == ===
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
It is a module on Y-disk. l fortvs* * * ( date FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL RECS BLOCKS DATE TIME FORTVS2 MAP Y2 F100 14 1 7/27/99 9:42:39 FORTVS2 MODULE Y2 V 23600 3 6 7/27/99 9:42:39 Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 10:56:42 -0400, Gregg Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is fortvs2 a module or an exec on an accessed disk? Gregg No plan survives execution Alexey Bozrikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM To z/VM OperatingIBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU System cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU Subje ct Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS 05/08/2006 09:32 Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARK.EDU Well, I wish they could leave without DCSS, but it seems thet invoking exec/modules does need it. I have tried to compile a 3-line program myse l f and it does not seem to work: [qte] fortvs2 testf DMSILX040E SAVED SEGMENT(S) NOT FOUND. EXECUTION TERMINATED. Ready(00044); T=0.03/0.06 08:40:11 [unqte] Any remedy to this? Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:40:55 -0400, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro t e: You may be just as well off in just forgetting about the DCSS for Fortran. If the bootstrap module or invocation exec just uses the DCSS if one is available and if there is not much or, as in our case, probably n o concurrent use of Fortran, there is no savings to be gained. It sounds as if you may be better off chasing a real problem. Jim At 05:08 AM 5/8/2006, Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangeme n t = of=20 SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE diploma, I know, ridiculous) on a=20= VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are=20 available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been = 20= doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I=20= have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine an= d=20 run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC complains about lack of FORT R AN= =20 DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who us= ed=20 to support the system left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760 = =
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
Thanks for the advice. The other exec failed with same error message complaining about lack of FORTRAN DEFAULTS file. I will follow the Redboo k you have suggested, maybe I am missing some additional steps. I5668806 DCSS *** VS FORTRAN Version 2: ***THE FORTRAN DEFAULTS FILE is required for product installation. ***Installation is terminated. Ready(00200); T=0.86/0.94 11:13:23 Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 11:18:03 -0400, Davis, Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to first define the FORTRAN DCSS and then run the Installation exec with the DCSS argument I5668806 DCSS Or I5688087 DCSS I pulled this out of SC26-4339-05 Installation and Customization for CMS manual Larry -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:58 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS Hello, Alexey. I take it that you have the VS Fortran V2 code installed someplace on a minidisk and are just missing the DCSS. This manual has the instructions for defining and creating the Fortran DCSS: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/afbivm00/CCON TENTS I believe you should be able to get your Fortran product back into working condition with the manual's help. Let us know if you need anything else. Good luck. DJ Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Well, I wish they could leave without DCSS, but it seems thet invoking exec/modules does need it. I have tried to compile a 3-line program myself and it does not seem to work: [qte] fortvs2 testf DMSILX040E SAVED SEGMENT(S) NOT FOUND. EXECUTION TERMINATED. Ready(00044); T=0.03/0.06 08:40:11 [unqte] Any remedy to this? Alexey On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:40:55 -0400, Jim Bohnsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be just as well off in just forgetting about the DCSS for Fortran. If the bootstrap module or invocation exec just uses the DCSS if one is available and if there is not much or, as in our case, probably no concurrent use of Fortran, there is no savings to be gained. It sounds as if you may be better off chasing a real problem. Jim At 05:08 AM 5/8/2006, Alexey Bozrikov wrote: Good day everyone, I am trying to restore VS Fortran shared segments after a re-arrangement = of=20 SPOOL areas (by a person with an MCSE dipl oma, I know, ridiculous) on a=20= VM/ESA system running on P/390. No backups of previous DCSSes are=2 0 available. Have no great experiencs on doing this; last time I've been=20= doing something with saved systems was on a VM/SP 5 system years ago. I=20= have tried following: LINKed VSFORT 260/270 minidisks to maint machine an= d=20 run I5668806 EXEC with DCSS arg. The EXEC compla ins about lack of FORTRAN= =20 DEFAULTS file (which I cannot find anywhere on minidisks). The guy who us= ed=20 to support the syst em left the scene. Any advice will be appreciated. Alexey Jim Bohnsack Cornell Univ. (607) 255-1760 = = === = ===
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
On 5/8/06, Alexey Bozrikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DMSILX040E SAVED SEGMENT(S) NOT FOUND. EXECUTION TERMINATED. Wasn't FORTRAN also that you could either define user the segment or define the LOADLIB to use to load the missing members? If the DCSS were required to run the program, then you would also be in trouble when the segment were overlayed by something else. You probably have a VSF2LOAD LOADLIB on the Y-disk as well, so I would try a GLOBAL LOADLIB against that before running your FORTRAN program (if it's built to run in load mode). Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software, Inc http://velocitysoftware.com/
Re: Question: VS FORTRAN DCSS
When you generate the FORTVS2 MODULE, you are asked (or you specify via parameter, I forget) that you want one big MODULE, or a smaller MODULE and DCSS. We always used to generate and rename each, and had a stub module that would figure out which one to call at run-time. Sorry, I don't recall the DEFAULTS file. cheers, wayne
